MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat w/ Michael Chiesa

Episode Date: March 27, 2020

For this episode, UFC welterweight Michael Chiesa joins José Youngs and Petesy Carroll to discuss his fascination with bigfoot, the coronavirus, a potential fight against Gilbert Burns, Geoff Neal's recent callout, and more! Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Petesy Carroll: @PetesyCarroll Follow Michael Chiesa: @MikeMav22 Follow E. Casey Leydon: @EKC Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Friday edition of the A-Side Live Chat. Now, normally we do just Wednesdays, as if you all know, but during this COVID-19 pandemic, we decided to bring it three times a week. We did Monday. We did Wednesday, and now we're here on. We're trying to get more fighters on to get their perspectives

now that everyone has more time. So for this Friday edition of the A-Side, we have UFC Walterway contender. Michael Kiyasa, joining myself at PT Carroll. Now, before we get into questions and what have you, Mike, we've been talking a little bit, camera before we started. How's quarantine life for you? So let all the listeners in right now. Give them an update on how you're handling this quarantine epidemic. I mean, I'm handling as best as I can.

I don't know. I'm just trying to do the right thing. You know what I mean? Just trying to stay healthy, stay safe, stay home. Thankfully, I get along really well with my fiancee or just to just be a total disaster. You know, so I guess it's just, I'm always complaining that I'm always just so busy and I never get a chance to rest. And now I'm like, wow, I'm pretty much forced to sit around and be a couch potato. So it's like I'm pretty eager to get back to normal life and get back to a regiment. But I'm making the most of it. Well, you and I spoke when you were backstage. You were a guest fighter.

I think it was at USC 240. And you were saying when you were a lightweight, you would rack your brain so much trying to stay, keep your diet on track. on track even when you weren't fighting. So I imagine during this pandemic, you're glad you're at a welterweight right now, right? Yeah, I mean, as we speak, I'm eating toaster waffles. But, yeah, yeah, I'm glad I don't have to follow a diet because I'd be, I gained more weight and ate more when I was at lightweight.

I don't know, maybe it was like a mental thing, but yeah, I'm like embodying the 80-20 diet, like 80% of the time during the day we have like a good breakfast, good lunch, good healthy dinner and then once nighttime falls I'm like a box of cereal deep eating fruit snacks kind of eat like a dickhead that's the hardest thing to do it's not hard to like work out like at home like I have a garage I have a heavy bag I got some weights and stuff so working out is not an issue maintaining like some level of fitness but it's the diet thing like I just cannot I'm constantly fighting myself to not eat like every hour of the day well now as as as as everyone that followed this show for the since the Luke Thomas days,

into the Mark and Sean days, we answer fan questions on this. So a lot of fans have sent in questions specifically for Mr. Kiesa here. Casey's behind the camera running things as usual. Maybe he'll pop in if he wants to give a recommendation for documentaries, as he's known to do. But Casey, what's our first question for Mr. Kiesa? All right.

First question is. From Ted Bear on the site. one of the best attitudes in the UFC. How does Mr. Kiyasa stay so positive amidst all the squabbling? If I had to deal with Colby and Dana, I'd end up locked in a mental clinic. So, Mike, as Ted Bear, a long-time commenter says, you are one of the most more positive fighters in the UFC. So to answer his question, why are you so positive all the time?

I don't know, man. I'm just a pretty leg-back guy, man. There's not a lot that really ruffles my feathers unless you talk about my mom. I'm being serious. But yeah, you know, I just don't let that type of stuff get to me. You know what I mean? I think that there was a time in my career when it would have. Like I always talk about how 2017 through 2018, I kind of almost was like it was conforming.

Like it was like I started to turn into the brash, start talking trash to my opponents, do this kind of social media thing. And, you know, I think if I was still that person today, I'd. I think it probably, I wouldn't be the same way, but that's just not true to who I am, man. I'm just a pretty laid-back guy. Everything that's kind of bullshit just kind of comes in one ear and out the other. And I mean, life sucks when you're unhappy, you know what I mean? So I'm not going to let any type of squabbling or any of that shit get to me. Unless it involved in all.

Casey, what do we got for another one for Mr. Keisa? Thanks for the question again, Ted Bear. You've been one of our long time listeners. Oh, great. Question number two is Has Mike spotted a Yetty yet from Craig Gertner Smith? So Mike, you are in the Pacific Northwest. So how many Yetis have you run into up there?

You know what's funny is I have like a little Yeti statue like two feet away from me right now. I just can't reach it. So if I could, I'd reach out and grab it and be like, yeah, I spotted one right here. No, I haven't, man. But I don't care. I'm a true believer. dude there's a reason why I have like a Sasquatch tattoo and a Yeti tattoo I I believe there's something out there man how could there not be it's just a lot smarter than

we are and obviously it's doing a lot better job of social distancing and self-quarantining because that guy's not near anybody maybe it's a girl maybe it's a guy who knows but yeah I haven't spotted a Yeti yet but trust me when the day comes it'll happen and I actually when I was when I was a little kid I grew up in Newport Washington which is like way north of here pretty close to Canada. And we had a crazy, like, geriatric old neighbor that, like, came over and said he saw a Sasquatch. And so me and my sister, like, put flowers in a Dr. Pepper can, like, took some food from the house. And we're just, like, walking around our backyard, looking for Bigfoot. Like, hey, Bigfoot, where are you? I kind of bring him and bring some stuff.

So, yeah, I pursued him. I've just never seen him. Well, I like the theory that he is indeed smarter than us. And I, people always say, like, how can we have found their remains? I think they bury they're dead like we do. So that's why we can't find, like everyone goes, how come I haven't found a big, a big, a Yeti skeleton? I think they are intelligent enough to bury their dead. So we just haven't found anything out there.

I don't know if you've been to the Pacific Northwest Pizzi. No. There's a lot of, there's a lot of trees up there, to put it mildly. Oh, yeah, you should see where I live. I live in the woods, so it's like just trees and green everywhere.

I remember I saw something about these guys that are trying to find. And they seem like a pretty cool bunch of people. I would like to spend a lot of time with them, to be honest. Isn't there a shot that? Isn't like Joe Rogan on it once? I think that's what I think I must have saw it on something to do with a Rogan thing or something. But they were hilarious.

I would have, I would happily spend all my time around those people and, you know, worship their giant monkey god, the Sasquatch. Very happy with that. Right. There's actually three. So there's a third one. A lot of people don't know about there's, There's Sasquatch.

There's the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman. And then there's actually one called the Skunk Cape. And if you look up Skunk Cape on Google, it was a skunk ape. It was a siding in the Everglades down in Florida. And the siding, it's actually kind of a creepy picture. Yeah, so there's actually three. So there's the Yeti, the Abominable Soman and Skunkake. And that's going to be my last big tattoo is my skunk ape tattoo.

I got to get the three. I got to get the third one, man. I got to get the third one. You know what I say, dude, no offense to anybody. Like, I'm not trying to take a shot at anybody, but I just, if I'm going to get a fable creature tattoo to my body, it's not going to be a dragon. And that's a little more normal. You know, you see a lot of dragon tattoos.

So it's like, if I'm going to get a fable creature tattoo on me, it's going to be something that's like the least of my native land. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not, I'm not Asian. I don't know why I'd get a dragon. But I know why I'd get like a yetier stuff. Well, I just, you're going to send so many people down. rabbit holes here.

So many people are going to Yeah, I just looked at least I have time to do something with it. You got time to dive on in the rabbit hole. That is a terrifying photo of a skunk cape I just looked up. It's like Yeah. Godly.

That's a real photo? Of course it's a real photo. It's a skunk gate. You look it up. It's literally like a giant monkey like peeking out of the grass in the average. Oh. That's not him? Wow.

That's a statue of Bigfoot or the Sackbatch, I'd say, it's weird that this Saskatch picture you're showing me, he has like the opposite of a treasure trail. He has like no nipple hair and there's no, that's skin. That makes no sense. He's like, hugely it's like skin and then the treasure trail. That guy's like the opposite. He's got the skin around the hair.

I see the skunk cape now. It's absolutely terrifying, labs. That is fucking terrifying. Just these little glass, little red eyes popping out with the folioes. there? Wow. Yeah, and the big underbite. It's like, holy shit. And they've named a strain of marijuana after him, I see. Oh, yeah, Casey's throwing it up there. How would you fight him? How would you fight him? I'm like, I mean, if it came down to it,

it's just you and the skunk, he stripped to the waist, colliless and shortless. How would you do it? How would I do it? And then, like, what do you mean? How would I do what? How do you begin to attack the skunk game? Oh, God, I don't know. I would really honestly believe that those, like, these babel apes, they've got to be fast as shit. I mean, you see how fast like a gorilla is. You know what I mean?

Like, there's a reason why we haven't seen them. So I would probably just like go fetal and just like hope for the best. You know what I mean? Like, there's no way. Would you trust your squeeze? Would you trust your squeeze that guillotine on one of these skunk capes? I think you can go for it, man. It's been pretty successful.

My Sasquatch stretch. So I call it. It's what I called the, if you actually go on my Instagram, that's what I called the Camaro that I caught Carlos Condit with. I call it the Sasquatch stretch because I think one-arm Camaro just kind of lame. Yeah. It's like if I ever became a pro wrestler, that would be my special move. The Sasquatch stretch.

Speaking on that, I think I watched the interview where Matt Riddle, someone asked Matt Riddle a similar question, like how would you fight a bear or a Sasquatch or something, where he basically said I would Matt adore him and then like grab his fur and then just like climb up and then just like rear naked choke it. That's confidence. Have you, do you guys see that, uh, that thing that just came out on the internet about that dude that survived the bear attack? This is just like yesterday. Oh my God. What the fuck was that? That is horrendous. That was, dude, that was awful. I didn't even think it was real until I actually

like scrolled over through all the pictures. They started talking. Yes. And then you can see actually had his face reconstructed. Have you seen it? Yeah. Oh my God. I'll send it to you right now. I'll say I'll send you really. Do I want to watch this? Dude, it's wicked.

It's wicked. Like, it's, it's hardcore. Have you had any bare experience up there? Have I had any bear experience? Um, no. I've had,

I've had, actually I've had mountain line experience up here. God, fuck that. Yeah. I have like, you want, okay,

so you're talking about how like Matt Riddle talked about how you fight a bear. I'm so weird, dude i have this like i have this like daydream that like i'm going to be taking the garbage out someday and there's going to be a mountline there and i'm going to have like this man versus wild moment where i'm like tangle with the cat like i think about it all the time but i actually um so when i there's two two kind of experiences i have with mount lions and one of them actually i didn't see one this time but it's kind of a weird story so when i first bought my house It's like I live in a cedar log house in the woods and this is right when I moved in.

I had no curtains in my house. I had no furniture. I had just sit in the couch. So I would just sleep on the couch in the living room. And the first night I ever slept in the house, I just got this really weird feeling. Like I'm like, someone is watching it. Granted it's the first night in the house. It's got big windows.

I'm thinking like, it's got to be what it is. But I just had this really freaking weird feeling. And I was talking to my sister that morning, telling her about it the next morning, telling her about it. And later that night, she sent me this news article of these people that lived like less than a mile from my house, how their game camp went off the night before. And it was four mountain lines walking in a pack through the freaking yard. And I'm like, okay. Like I think that feeling was warranted. And then the other time was I actually saw one in broad daylight just crossing the street when I was about to turn the corner to my house.

I was just driving, driving home from practice at 1130.30. And I, That thing just casually walked out and just walked across the street. Like it didn't even run. It just like just came walking out, took its time. And it was like super low to the ground. But the head was like touching the side of the road. And its tail was like touching the middle line. The thing was so low.

It was long. It was really long. And I was like, it just made it like way more creepy. I would have turned around. Well, I had to go home. And I actually, I wanted to get out of the car and take a video of it. but I had my little French bulldog with me. I'm like, god dang.

Poor stone. In one bite. Poor Stone Cold. Yeah. If he jumps out of the car, he's fucked. What is your dog's name? Stone Cold. After Steve Austin?

Yeah, his name's Stone Cold Chiesa. That's a reason. Yeah. He's a stud. He's fat of self. He's a future subject for mixed martial arts. I don't know if he wants that. They do a documentary on fighters' pets.

Really? Yeah. Oh, dude, he's, he's an interesting dog, man. He's fat. He's like almost 40 pounds. He's just like a chunk. Oh, my God. But yeah.

Alex Caleb for this bear. Alex says he has a comment saying that's very progressive of Kia, so women can be Yetis, too. See, there you go. Start a movement. Hashtag, one can be a yetys too. So if I ever get, if I ever get another dog, this would be my other wrestler name that I would name my next dog, which it's going to happen. I don't talk to my fiance, she's going to kill me.

But I'm getting a third dog, and I'm naming him Dude Love. I think Dude Love is a sick name of her pet. Of the McFoly personas, this is interesting, because you're the first person I met where due love seems to be their choice of all the four. McFoly, Mankind, Cactus Jack, and, of course, do love. Yeah. So do what? I mean, I hate.

sounds so like, just like everybody else. I mean, it was mankind for me. I mean, how could you ever forget? What,

was it King of the Ring? Yeah. I can't remember the exact. It was King of the Ring. Yeah, versus Undertaker, dude, that was like the craziest

freaking wrestling match. I mean, I don't, I'm not like a huge die hard wrestling fan, you know, but I followed it for a long period of time

of my life. And I just remember that being the most crazy, the craziest shit I've ever seen, like freaking mankind getting thrown. off the top of a freaking

I thought he died I watched it as a kid I thought he was yeah so I like I loved all the proscionos I love dude love I love cactus jack but like mankind just that that match in itself was like okay this is this is the persona I like the most

this guy is just a lunatic biggest Bob wrestling history is when he won the championship over the rock when Stone Cold returned I think it was backlash against the authority or not the authority I can't remember what it was called I don't have to sell pizza car on this he's of course the biggest wrestling fan Oh, yeah. Well, music to my ears and all this, lads.

But anyway, we got off our long. We can talk about wrestling the entire time, I bet. But any other questions we got for Mike, Casey? Actually, I was about to put up an image of the bear attack. And holy crap, that is disgusting. Is it the video? Yeah. The guy kind of like the video.

No, listen, you can hear him talking, like he's saying. Yeah, I see his mouth moving. I can't I can't put that on the show Dude that's I'm like when I when I watch that video I just like started touching my face I'm like Oh my God he's missing this he's missing this There's nothing here like it's like all his bones from his eyeballs down Just like disappeared like like steak isn't it like raw steak or something

It looks like it's sick man it's really this is recent Yeah I mean I just saw you Google bear attack and Google and in Twitter just search go to Twitter and search in Bear Attack and then everything will come up and you'll see it

Great A lot of rumors out there suggesting I'm gonna keep the camera on you Jose so as you watch a video I can actually watch you vomit at the same time

Oh If that was a gun game attack I could not be alive that guy's face would be He would have ate his head Holy Jose's reaction His face is gone It's ridiculous

man. Just might be hungry. His face is gone. It's like someone just cut his face. Oh my God. Why am I watching that? Did you guys ever see the Bear Attack video that came out like last year, the year before where it was like the guy, he's taking the selfie video.

And it's not obviously, it's not as bad as this one. But you can see he just has this huge gash, like going along his ear down the back. It took me a few times watching it to really notice it. But the guy, the bear, like, clawed his freaking head. over here, not his face. And he's just like taking a selfie video. He's like, just got a bear attack. It looks pretty bad. He's like

puts the camera over here and you kind of see his ear hanging off his head. Like, oh, fuck. Do you have any bears in Ireland, Fizi? Just this one. Just this one. She's just ooing and like, she's watching

the video right now. Yeah, it's a rough one. And it's like, dude, it's like a freaking train crash you just cannot take your eyes off it like i can't do gore i'm like dude i just i'm not into it like i passed out during a saw movie one time in the movie theater it was just too much for me but something about that whole bear attack thing i could i just like cannot take my eyes off it i'm like this is real like what the hell like it's crazy never watched film irreversible if you don't like gore that's just a tip for me oh no that is never watch what the film irreversible

It's a French film, I believe, and it's some of the most disturbing scene I've ever seen in my life. Oh, it's like faces of death. No, dude, one of my friends fainted and went into a seizure watching it. Like, it was a brilliant film if you could take the gore. It's actually a very good film, but it's probably, you know, most people think films should be entertaining. This film is not meant to be entertaining. It's meant to. It's a really good thing.

It's a really good very old. Is it like a fictional thing? Yeah, yeah, it's a fictional thing. But the violence in it and I don't want to. I don't like it. I don't like it. I'll never watch it on it. Okay.

I don't do. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a putt. When I, I grew up, my cousin,

my cousin made me watch basis of death when I was a kid. Have you ever, you ever hear that? Oh, dude, like, that shit's intense. I think that's like what scar means.

I just was like, I was force-fed that stuff when I was young. I was like, all right, I've had enough of this. I'll pass on watching any gory stuff for the rest of my life. Except for bear attacks, apparently. What it is. I don't know what it is about that video. It's just fascinating.

I'm like, wow, this is like, you would think that it's fake. You know what I mean? It just looks like it's bad. I can remember that face of death, though, the feeling of actually watching someone die, like, for the first. Do you know what I mean? Because you never see this shit usually, and you're a kid watching it, right? And then you see it.

I will never be the same again. That's what I was thinking when I was watching. Yeah. Like the people getting their arms, like their arms sought off. You know what I mean? Like getting their arms cut off. Like, Yeah.

And then you're usually. Look at the rabbit all we dove in too. We just went from saskwages to like faces of death. I saw some guy get his arms chopped off. You guys are sick, man. He's a bunch of sick of us. I don't know what I'm doing here. You know what?

This whole bear thing makes Lance Palmer a hundred times more badass. You know what I mean? Have you ever seen Lance Palmer videos of him wrestling a bear as a kid? Yeah. Well, guess what? Lance Palmer, your stock just rose through the freaking roof. You know what I mean? Like, what a savage?

Lance and Habib just wrestling bears out like when they're younger. Yeah, I'm going to give Lance more cred, though, because he took on a full-sizer. You know what I mean? What? You've never seen this pizza? Oh. Yeah. You know what?

And this kind of goes back to, if you, listen, I love Lance. That's my boy. And his dad, Wayne the Payne is like, I hope someday I can be half the man he is when I'm his age. Wayne the pain is the fucking man. But going back to Tiger King, they said there was some footage in Ohio. You know what I mean? It was Lance, I wonder Lance's dad had any interaction with any of these weird big cat people. They had a pet bear.

They had a legit pet bear. This is wild. This is wild, man. Right? This is the craziest shit I've ever there in me life. Everything's coming full circle, dude. Wait, Mike, Mike, can you hold up to the camera that you're a coffee mug? Oh, fuck.

Hey. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, you're living the life, man. man what are the odds sex watch

this is a side it's going down a very random hole right now so so for our podcast

listeners Mike what do you have on your cup what is it this is a grizzly bear and so I have like

a coffee mug anytime I go somewhere new you know what I mean it's better than a shot glass I'm not an alcohol So I'm pretty sure this this oh this is from Colorado you can kind of see it in the in the water it says Colorado so so yeah so this is a Colorado mug shout out to Justin Gagie Pat Barry Rosemongenny.

Huh? I've got Morgan V. Yeah, dude. I don't have a I don't have a Sasquatch mug yet. Not yet. Someone said someone. Stundance someone one of our listeners make Mike a Sasquatchew. watch mug. I got to grab this little figurine. I'll show you this. Oh my gosh. I got this really cool.

I got this really cool guy that reached out to me and he's a fan. And I hope that he watches this because he he sent me a couple of these figurines. I'll actually post the link like in my Instagram story so you can see it. But he sent me like this guy. And it's like really it's like he like hand carves these things. It's really interesting. I don't know if it's wood or not. It's definitely some type of weird material, but you can tell that he, he hand makes these and he paints himself and stuff. And I got a big foot one upstairs,

but this is the recent one he sent me. It's this freaking badass Yeti. And I think he looks like me, because we have the same unibrow. You know what I mean? You got the same. Unibrow and beard, right? Yeah.

Yeah, but I'm like, you're the man. The truth be told, just like you were saying, man, the community of people that believe in Sasquatch and are into that, they're all really cool people. what I mean. A lot cooler than fucking big cat people. That's for sure.

I hope they're just as weird, though. That's the thing. God, if I still had my mullet that I had a couple years ago, I would 100%, I would fully embody, I would be Mike exotic for sure. I would be, if I was locked up right now, I would be at Fred Meyer buying the cheapest hair bleach and just going all in. Have you always right? Did you ever have another time when you had the mullet as well?

I really appreciate a good mullet. And yours was fantastic. Was this a thing throughout your teenagers as well? Yeah. I think I've had a mullet for like the better part of my life. I've just kind of had to grow up a little bit, you know, the last one. The last one's not the last one, but I'm going to wait a little while because I'm going to grow one more and it's going to be like down in the middle of my back.

It's going to be. Whoa, that's like Joe Dirt style. There's raunchy, raunchy. I snowboard a lot. I snowboard a lot, so I'm around all these crazy, like, ski bums with the wicket mustaches, like, and crazy haircuts. Like, I'm into it, dude. There's nothing like when you see a dude flying down the mountain on skis and these just guys freaking his Kentucky mudflap in the back is just flapping in the wind. You know what I mean?

Kentucky mudflap is like, ah, man, that is amazing. That is amazing. I never heard that before. I'm writing that down. He's continuing. He's writing that down. He writes out movies and things to look up, and he writes on Kentucky Mudflap down.

That's amazing. Taste of America. Lots of good content here. I'm getting all of the Americana in one episode of the Azoid here. I feel like I'm really exploring your guys culture finally. Biggads, Bigfoot and Mullets. Those are the big three right there. Yeah.

It's a initiative day print up here, man. up in Washington. I live, so I live close to the Canadian and Idaho state border, and you see some shit in Idaho, man, which by the way, it's kind of fucked up, dude, because like, it's part of my language. But like Hayden Lake in Idaho, Hayden Lake is like the, has the most white supremacists per capita. Lord. And I'm not going to pull any of my punches. These white supremacists, people are fucking idiots. And you'll just see them like, it's legal to ride a four-wheeler in the the streets and things like that. So you'll just see him like Confederate flag on the back of the four-wheeler, no helmet,

like riding back from the grocery store with their groceries bundled down. Like, I'm like, fucking white trash. Anyone that ever says to me from now on anything about Idaho, I'm just going to immediately reply. You see some shit in Idaho, man. You do. That's for sure. I'm taking all these Mike Mav quotes to use in my general American.

conversations from now on. Nice Kentucky mudflat, man. He's bald. Like, what the fuck? It's a good conversation. So people really wave the Confederate flag in the Pacific Northwest? Not really in Washington. I mean, once in a while, maybe you'll see it.

In Idaho, it's kind of a big thing. Like, there's a lot of white supremacists in Idaho. It's actually kind of messed up. You know what I mean? I don't like to offend people in their religion. but that's just one that I can't really pull my punches with. I think it's a total. Nor should you.

They're all a bunch of fucking idiots. You know what I mean? But yeah, Hayden Lake, man. Look it up. There's a lot of lunatics out there. Like a lot of them, too, the guys that are actually like Aryans, you can tell, and I might stand corrected, but to my understanding, I was told a while ago that the guys that are part of like the Aryan nation gangs, like the white supremacist gangs, they wear

red suspenders, but they don't put them up. They let them hang down. So they have like red. So that's like their little insignia. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. We don't put our suspenders on. Because we're hardcore.

That's why. Yeah. Now you know, wave my flag. You know what I mean? It's crazy. I wasn't going to take this guy seriously. But then I saw his draped suspenders. I know.

Now watch out. Don't fuck with that guy. You know what I mean? probably oh my dry row is three leader to pick up a freaking stick pack of natty ice tallboys or something you know what I mean something just raunchy

fucking Idaho yeah it's actually not all that bad I mean I'm talking about all the bad stuff but like there's a city called Cordillane in Idaho and it's like absolutely beautiful and there's like I think like post Malone bought a mansion out there I think Alex Rodriguez has a mansion out there there's a lot of like yeah i've heard a lot of like musicians are moving to like the wyoming

idaho area to make music these days just to get away from everyone yeah man it's it's a beautiful place i i love where i live like i love the little pocket of america i live in just i'm not i'm not a seattle guy i'm i like being on the east side of the state i like being around the mountains and just a lot of very calm you know and being close to i don't i live in a great spot where i can go 40 minutes north and cross the border to Canada, I can go 40 minutes east and I can get into Idaho and there's just you know, it's kind of get the best of three worlds.

There you go. Are you crazy commuted there, Mike? Like, I mean, is your house away from everybody else or is it a suburb or what's going on there? It's not really a suburb, but like I mean, my neighbor's house on this side of me, his house is probably

20, 30 yards from me. And then the other neighbor, his house is probably like probably like two-thirds of a football field away from me. So I have like space. I'm in a neighborhood, but I'm not in like a, I don't know, like a development. You know what I mean? But I mean, I'm definitely surrounded by trees. I have five acres out here.

Yeah, I got a nice little setup here. A little good for my social distancing. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, perfect for that. Yeah, it's not too bad. Well, Casey, I'm sure we have. more questions coming in. Any other questions for Mike? I know we got off a little tangent that people are probably like, get to the questions.

Sorry, you're good. From John Smith Remembe on Twitter, is Mike open to a fight with Jeff Neal? It's not, if not, what does Jeff have to do to get that fight? Hashtag the A side. You know, I'm pretty focused

on the guys above me. Jeff's tough as shit. I mean, I saw his skills this first fight a competitor series. But I think that if he wants the bigger name fights, he should take a different approach. You know what I mean? Like, he jumped out on Twitter for no reason and just was kind of like, what are you going to catch his hand?

I'm going to knock you out. You don't want the smoke, like saying stuff to me. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not even going to respond to you because I'm just, I'm not into that. You know what I mean? If I get a guy like Gilbert Burns, who, no offense to Jeff, I think Gilbert's very seasoned and very well-rounded, probably one of the most well-rounded guys in the division. He calls me out the way he did.

I'm like, yeah, I'm going to take the bait on that, but I'm just not going to get any spats. You know what I mean? It's like if I ever ended up getting a Colby Covington fight like I asked for, and he started, you know, doing what he does, the verbal vomiting and stuff. I wouldn't engage. I'm just not into it. So, you know, I could see myself fighting Jeff down the road, but right now I'm looking ahead of me. And a lot of people are like, well, you responded to the Neil Magnet call out. I'm like, well, chief be told I was in Ottawa drinking beers and was a bunch of Canadians.

and I love Canadians. They're some of the coolest people ever, and they got me all pumped up. Like, the old man, he called you out. You got to tweet him. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to tweet him. You know what I mean? But I'm really focused on the guys ahead of me, dude.

I've been in the sport for eight years. Jeff's a young guy who's really good. I mean, he's got the talent's great. He's from an awesome team. I have a lot of respect for his coach and the people at Fortis. I can see that fight happening down the road, but right now I'm looking ahead of me,

and I feel like I deserve those fights with the guys in the top five. You know, I've been in the UFC for eight years. It's time to get when I'm due, you know what I mean? And that's to get a shot at a big fight, you know what I mean? So we'll see what happens. I'm just looking at the guys ahead of me right now. You mentioned Gilbert Burns there, Mike. And he obviously has had a great kind of resurgence since he went to 170 as well, right?

Like he was making 55 like you, probably a lot of. a way to lose there. That seems to be, it seems to be like a trend that comes along a lot where we see guys like you having fantastic runs at that higher weight division. Do you feel as though that's something you can only kind of terms with after you've been in the UFC oil when you've gained a bit of experience? Because the whole weight cutting thing, a lot of people used to see it was for that early advantage, right? That early strength advantage. Is it just a comfort with giving that up later on your career that you find guys kind of do this after, after a while of being in a lower weight class in the UFC?

Well, I mean, it was tough to make that move. Like the era I started fighting it, I started training in 2008. And, you know, I call that like, that was still to me like the Militich era. When I say Militich era, I say, let's spar the hardest, 10 rounds, new guy, every minute. You know what I mean? The crazy hard sparring sessions, the cut the most weight, do everything in the most extreme way. So like I started, when I got into the sport, we were still in that very extreme era. and his time has gone on

and I saw people like Dustin Porriade make that jump up it was like it got to a point where I'm like this weight cutting thing is like all I think about and I'm not getting any better like I felt like my last two fights

that 1 555 I made no improvements you know what I mean I had I had good camps but once I got into the last three weeks it was when I had to start focusing on the weight I just realized like I'm losing all these things I'm gaining through the camp and I'm not like making any progress as a martial artist.

So you're seeing guys like Porriere definitely were like, you know, something needs to change. You know what I mean? So it was it was tough to do. Going into that, those strange waters of a new weight class when you've been at one forever and you're so used to doing things a certain way, it felt it felt wrong the first time I cut to 70.

So I'm like this doesn't feel like I'm doing anything. Like am I in shape? Am I in shape? Am I, you know, am I ready for this fight? because like when you cut when you're cutting a lot of weight you do it the right way you're running a lot you are working out a lot of extra workouts just to cut weight like i don't know it was kind of a weird thing but i think guys like dustin for being the frontrunner you know what i mean because i think it was

he was like the first guy to actually go up a weight class and kind of like spark the movement i guess you could say well looking at the welterweight division was did the fact that it seems like the top of the division is very grappler and wrestling head While opposed to the lightweight division, you have a lot of like strikers and all around MMA fighters, but you have like Tyne Woodley, Kobe Covington, Kamaro Usman, Damien, Maya, like all of these fighters that play into your strengths as well in this new division. Did that play any factor at all into making the jump up too? It wasn't the style of the fighters at the top.

It was more at the time when I decided to change weight classes. The water was a lot less muddy. You know what I mean? My aspirations have stayed the same. Like, I'm gunning for a world championship. I believe I'm going to win a world championship. I feel like I'm ready to win a world championship. But, like, in 155 at that time, when I was still there, you had, you know, Habib, you know, at the top, Ferguson with the interim belt.

Connor and the fringes, you know he's going to come back and can get a title fight whenever you want it's at that time. So I just thought, like, I'm not, it's going to take a lot. Like, I basically looked at the work Tony Ferguson was putting in. was like, do the guys won at that time, like nine fights in a row. And he hasn't gotten a title shot yet. I was like, I need to, I think it's time for me to go to a different weight class. But now the water's almost just as muddy. You got the BMF title.

You got the champ. You got, you know, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't relate Colby to Connor because they're both different people. But Colby's kind of the guy that's number one sitting at the top that's going to hold out for a title fight type of thing. You know what I mean? So yeah, the water. is murky up here, but, you know, with everybody being grapplers, grappler based, on paper,

stylistically, those are my toughest matchups. I didn't wrestle in college. So Usamon, Covington, those guys have an advantage on me. Maya and Burns, they're black belts, legit black belts, world, world, I'm a blue belt. I've never won worlds. I've been, I've even been submitted. I've been, I have three losses in my entire career, amateur pro that I've been submitted. So obviously, there's some deficits. But those. are the challenges I want. I want to face those guys. Those to me, those are the toughest challenges. Strikeer versus grappler. I've been doing that in my whole career. You know what I mean? The toughest challenges to me are the guys that have the better, you know, grappling accolades than

I do. Are you like, you're like, when you say I'm only a blue belt, you're a blue belt the way like Matt Hughes was a blue belt for years and dominating black belts, that kind of way. I just never did ghee. I never did ghee. When Anthony Pettis served me a dish of humble pie. big time. And I used to kind of bash on the ghee and thought it was stupid. And when you find yourself getting submitted by a striker that trains in the ghee a lot, you kind of start to rethink things a little bit. You know what I mean? So I can thank Anthony Pettis for being the guy that got me to swallow my pride, put the Ghee on, and, you know, do it that way. So what was the hesitation to put on the Ghee for so long? It's not functional. It's, well, for one, at the time,

when I first started training, we didn't have a lot of gyms in Spokane. So the one guy that had a Ghii Jiu-Jitsu program was like arched rite, like they were arch nemesis to our gym. Like we did not get along with that school. And, you know, but at that time, like my mentor is Lyle Beerbomb. I don't know if you guys remember Lyle Beerbomb. He was badass for a while. Check him out.

Oh, I remember Lago Bion. He was, um, fancy pants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What happened? Yeah.

Yeah. So. How's he doing? I've heard about him in a while. He's moved on. You know, he's a family guy now. He's doing his thing. But, you know, that was my mentor.

So we didn't have a GEEP program where I started training. And him being my mentor, he was just like, he's stupid. I started doing it. It's not functional to fighting. It's stupid. You just need to grapple. I'm like, okay, all right.

Well, that settles that. So as time went on, I just never, I never thought to go training the GE until Pettus submitted me. So I can thank him. And what are the benefits to that, Mike? I think it's good for me to slow things down. I used to kind of have no rhyme or reason to a lot of the things I did, except for my catches. You know, I didn't really, I wasn't really taught a lot of technical sweeps or, you know, technical positions.

You know, I cut my teeth in an MMA gym. You know what I mean? We didn't have a boxing program. We didn't have Jiu-Jitsu. We just had MMA. So my catches were always on point, but I didn't, outside of that, I just kind of was like making stuff up as I was going. So the good thing about training in the geese, it slows me down. It makes me more technical.

And like when I'm in training camp, I never trained the grips. Like my coach, James Wheat, he never has me train any of the lapel or the sleeve grips. Like, I'll go through the class if they're teaching that, like, and we'll do it. But when it comes like my live grappling when I'm in camp, he's like, if I'm wearing the ghee, don't even grab it. I mean, and I feel like that helps me a lot because it forces me. If I'm not grabbing the ghee and the people that I'm going live against, they can do it. It makes me have to work more on my escapes and doing them right because you can't just turn your back in the ghee and stand up. You know what I mean? It's just not a good idea. So it's a really good training tool for me.

It's, it's been a big part of this like rebound success that I've been finding it 170. You know, it's really, I feel like this last fight really showed I polished my ground game off. you know, I can positionally dominate people instead of just scramble around and try and get submissions. That's really interesting. Yeah, we've had a lot of high level. Like, what was it, Monday? We had Anthony Smith and McKenzie Dern on, and now we have Mike. A lot of high-level grapplers coming on the A-side.

What did you think of quintet? Would you ever do that? Yeah, I was actually supposed to do quintet. I was supposed to do it. Me and Gilbert Burns were actually talking about it. I like that guy a lot. He's fucking awesome. You know what I mean?

If we actually fight, it's going to be, I'm happy. I'm happy to fight a guy that I have mutual respect for. You know what I mean? But him and I were supposed to be teamed up. And at the time, no offense to my man, Sean O'Malley. I love Sean. Sean's a Montana kid. I don't know if you guys knew that.

Love Sean. We didn't know he was as good of a grappler as he is. You know what I mean? So Burns, as we're talking before Quintet, he's like, oh, dude, I'm glad you're on our team. Like, I kind of thought I was by myself. I'm like, no, dude, this is going to be cool. like they were talking about like how are we going to go about approaching jake shields like we're like talking we're like game planning and then you know danny ruve my manager called me he's like yeah sean said no

so you're not doing quintet and then it turns out sean o'malley he's a freak on the ground like holy crap his his ground skills are legit who's the complete package but yeah i would love to do quintet man it would be that would be fun i want to get into more grappling stuff i think it's a great way to stay active you know what i mean it's a good that i think being as active as you can can, it's important. Warren's B. Shays a hell of a fight, though. Can we just say for the record there,

let's not pass that up there. That would be an incredible fight. Holy shit. Me and Gilbert? Yeah. Would be. At the moment, the way you're looking at the moment, though, I think that's an insane fight.

Yeah, we're kind of been, we're on a collision course right now, honestly. We kind of always have been. You know what I mean? You see how the UFC puts fights together. You do Pedestine Wonder Boy. You do Maya and Burns. You know, styles make.

Usman and Covington. You know, styles make fights. And him and I are just on a collision course. And I think he's, I think he's the most well-rounded guy at 170 pounds. He can wrestle. He can grapple. And we just saw he can definitely strike. So tough guy. So we'll see what happens. But I think the world of the guy, I think he's awesome. You know, I would rather have this fight happen while we're at the top than when it doesn't really mean anything. Because I think we're two of the best guys in the division and it would be a shame if this was a fight that was happening when we weren't even ranked you know what i mean i think that it bears a lot of weight

now so we'll see what the ufc wants to do but i think we got a ways to go before we're matching any fights you know what i mean we got a lot of things yeah so i'm not really dwelling on it right now once things start to clear up and i can get back in the gym we'll sort this whole thing out fair play kisi any other questions for mike here we go that's the same Jeff Neal. Wow. That was... I thought someone else was asking about Jeff Neal. I was like, hang on a second. All right. From Jacob

Ferrar on Twitter. Unlike certain UFC colleagues, does Mike find it difficult to not be an irresponsible, reckless jackass for more than a couple months at a time? I imagine he's talking about the... Those were his words, not mine, from the news that came out yesterday regarding John Jones.

So to answer our listeners' question, is it difficult not to be irresponsible, Mike? Yes, it is. It is. I all own it. I don't care, dude. I train regularly and it's not like I'm a jock. It's because, you know, I enjoy training. It's a hobby. Like, I look at jujitsu, like I look at skateboarding and snowboarding and like these hobbies I have. It's just stuff that's fun. So it keeps me in shape. But I love beer. I love pizza, but I don't like getting a lot of trouble. I've never been arrested. I'm never been arrested. never had any charges. But I did almost get arrested actually a couple days ago, which is funny. Oh, tell me more. I didn't do anything like bad, but my sister was in town visiting for spring break. And I have like kind of a souped up Subaru, Uber, WRX. It's pretty fast. And my nephew, he wanted to go for a ride in it. And it's funny. He's a little guy. He's like five or six.

And he gets in the car, gets in the front seat. And we're just leaving this diner that we were eating at and uh and we obviously we were we were eating we had to get takeout we're going to go sit by the river and eat lunch and uh he sits he gets in the car and i go max do you want me to go fast he goes yeah and i go okay but if i get pulled over you have to get out and run you got to get out and run so that i don't get a ticket and i don't get in trouble you got to run because they can't catch you he's like yeah uncle michael i'll do it i'm like all right sweet jump in the car to start ripping sure is shit i get pulled over and i'm like oh my god No.

I was doing, I think, like 75 and a 25. So the cop flips around, pulls me over. I roll the window down. I'm like, lean out. And he's just like, what? He's like, screaming at me. What the fuck are you doing? You're going to jail.

Get out of the car. I'm like, oh, no. I'm not even like upset or sweating because I'm like, okay, I just, it's a speeding ticket. Like, this is going to be my first time getting arrested. I guess, you know, you haven't lived unless you've gotten arrested. Maybe. Who knows? But, uh, so this dude's ripping me.

And I'm like, what the hell are you doing? I'm like, dude, I'm just taking my nephew for a ride. He's like, do you have any symptoms of this COVID-19? I'm like, I'm like, what? No. And he's like, I can't believe you would drive with your son in the car like that. I'm like, you know, that's actually my nephew. He's like, oh, how would your brother feel?

I'm like, well, it's actually my sister. And she's actually going to be pulling up any minute. And so he's just torching me, dude, burning me down. and my sister comes pulling up and what the hell are you guys out doing? She's like, she's like, we were just getting food like a half mile down. He comes back takes my registration. He reads it and he goes, Michael Kessai. I go, yeah.

He's like, do you remember me? I'm like, this could go bad. You know what I mean? Maybe I can't tell it because your glasses and he took these glasses off. And I recognize them. And his officer, Darren Powers, if you were watching this, thank you. but but uh he's just like i remember you man you remember me and he before your canada fight and i was like 10 years ago i was like yeah he was just like what the hell are you doing man

take your stuff get the hell out of here i'm like wow that was intense like i kind of called that one i said well got to get on the car and run if i get pulled over max so as so then i go meet up with my sister and we eat we're talking about it and she's like we drove by we all started laughing because max is sitting in the front seat of the car like he's like he's like locked in straight ahead, eyes wide open, just like scared shitless. And his rebuttal to me was just like, he's like, you know what the first thing he said to the cop was? I go, what?

He goes, you rolled down the window and you said, howdy. I was like, oh, sounds, sounds about right. Good life lesson for him right there. Oh, yeah. He'll never forget that one for sure. He thought he was going to jail. I was like, why didn't you run? Why don't you run?

You're supposed to run. Oh, man. Dear God. American police are the scariest though. They love shooting people over there, right? Like, that's terrifying. Every time I see a video of people in America, like, here's another police man killing someone.

You're like, what the fuck, man? Oh, dude. And I, as he had me outside the car just torching me, I like have this thing where, like, if I get uncomfortable, I'll, like reach behind me and I'll, like, I'll, like, play with my pant line. It's a weird thing I do. And I, like, reach behind me. And he's like, he gets out of your fucking.

Like, put his hand on his gun. I'm like, whoa. Oh, no, no. I was just reaching behind me, dude. I'm sorry. Don't stress. No, listen to this. The coronavirus, man.

It's got me going crazy. I was going to jail. I would just get shut immediately if I was ever pulled over in the United States. It just act wrong and they just put a cap of me. I probably deserve it as well. I thought I was done. I was like, oh, going to jail. See you guys.

Oh, my God. Your God. Well, we're running. We have about 10, 50 minutes left. So Casey, any other questions for Mike? I know we had a few come in. That's a picture of Vietta again. A picture of Swampape again.

She has some good content there. This is by far one of the more interesting episodes we've ever done of the A-side. Hold on. Hold on. Actually. Ooh, from Sean Danny, Denny Rance. Hashtag the A-side. If you had to choose an MMA-related family fortunes team,

who are you choosing all involved in MMA are available. Well, first, what's family fortunes? Yeah, you're going to have to take me shirt out as well. I don't know. I assume is it family feud? Is that what it's supposed to be? Wait, does no one know what family fortunes is this? No, I have no idea.

No, that's my idea is Casey. Oh. Do enlighten. Esther, what was the family feud maybe? Let's be here. Yeah, I'd say it's the UK version of family fortunes. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's just the.

UK. It's the British version of like family feud. Okay. Well, first, my first pick 100% would be my boy, strong island zone, ally Quinto. That would be my top choice for sure. That's, that's my number one pick. So I don't know how many people can go on a on a family fortunes team. I'm assuming five. So I think it's five. Yeah. It would be me. It would be Reginald. I would probably pick. We got to do a whole family. You got to do you got who's going to be like, You guys, the seniors, kind of the, you know, your age and kind of the young ones. I'd want Don Fry.

Ooh, that is an underrated answer right there. Yes, Don Fry. A little Valentina Shamschenko, you know what I'm saying? You know, the crazy, somebody with an accent. And for my fifth, I think my fifth, I'd probably go Mike Perry. You know what I mean? And then during the show, I could listen to that. Al and Mike Perry just talk shit to each other,

and it would just be like two things going on in itself. You know what I mean? Yeah. It would be me buddyed up with Don Frye. Mike Perry and Al talking shit, and then you just have Valentin just stuck in the middle, smiling, answering all the questions for us. Well, that is just a rag-tag group of misfits if I ever heard.

That is the most random family few team I've ever, a fighter's ever brought to the table. Yeah. Well, Don Fry's MVP. And you know what? You know what? Today is dawn Friday. Woo!

Happy Dawn Friday, guys. Oh, former AIS Sun Devil, Don Frye, me and him. There you go. Don Friday.

I'm going to go shape of mustache. Got nothing else to do. Casey, you're the only one dressed for the occasion with that mustache you got going on.

God, it is. What a mustache. Look at that man. In Casey, I'm sorry I didn't submit my face to pain video. Oh,

no, no, don't worry. I have no excuse because I can't say I was busy because I haven't been doing jack shit but i read through the lyrics a few times and i'm like yeah i feel awkward i if

if i was drunk and i could play the music in the background yeah i could do it but i'm like trying to acapell it i'm like you will never get to me can't be done i'll do myself oh this is awkward so oh i can slip away yeah yeah that was tough i'm so sorry did you did you get a chance to watch it yes and it was fucking awesome and the second i watched it i totally kicked myself. I'm like, God, I should have done it. I'm just like, don't worry. There were a handful of fighters that wrote back and said, oh, it sounds awesome.

It was like, oh, but I can't do. I can't sing. I was like, it's not about how you sing. No. Yeah. And like, when I watch, it's like, when people go to karaoke, karaoke can be two things. You should be really good or really awful. When you're kind of in between it's kind of boring, but if you're really awful,

it's just as entertaining as if you're really good. Yeah, I screwed that up. I think that if you had caught me to time when I'd be drinking some fine, some fine brewed beverages. I probably would have been like, yeah, let's do this. I would have just like, mic drop, start singing face the pain. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's one of those things, isn't it? Even with karaoke, it's like you walk in saying, I'm not going to do this. And then you have a few beers and you're like, can't get rid of you. I'm up about five times. Oh, yeah. My teammate, Sam Cecilia and I, we used to go out and have beers a lot. lot better back in the day. We don't really go downtown anymore, but we used to go to this karaoke bar called Monterey Cafe, and we were notorious for singing duets all the time.

We would sing Kid Rock and Cheryl Crowe. That was like, that was our deal. And at this place, Monterey Cafe, you can get like pizza in 40s. And so I have like pictures. I could show you guys where we're like, mic in hand, PBR 40s, just like belting at each other. Like, we used to do some problems. Sounds like a good first day. spot. Yeah. That's amazing. Pizza 40s karaoke. So what are some of your go-to standards, Mike? We hit the karaoke bars.

Well, picture my Kid Rock and Cheryl Crow is a good one. Beautiful. If I have to go to a karaoke bar and I'm not feeling it, but I'm getting forced to sing, I always just sing tequila. You only have to say tequila. You just only have to say one word. I go to that if I'm not. feeling the singing.

Do you do the Pee We Herman dance? The, you know, the tequila dance. I just kind of like, I just kind of bobbed my head. You know what I mean? That looked totally gay. We'll loop that over and over, no worry. Yeah, that just looked very wrong. I shouldn't say gay.

That didn't look good. I could have bobbed my head better with my hand away for me. But I like just thing like Garth Brooks, Journey. I mean, Darren Till, his song, Sweet Caroline. I've been known to rip that a time or two. But yeah, Garth Brooks, that's usually my jam if I'm doing it by myself. Well, we got no more fan questions, but real quick, before you run out, we got about four or five minutes left. Gilbert Burns tweeted his top five cheat meals.

He said, Flan, Stroganoff, Dulce, ice cream, and milk chocolate. So before we let you go, what are your top five cheat meals during coronavirus quarantine? God, I saw the Stroganoff one. like, I never would have thought of stroganoff. I like stroganoff. My top three would be, obviously, I love pizza. But if I'm like cheating, I always go to like a barbecue chicken pizza. So barbecue chicken pizza.

Mike and I like candy. I love candy. Mike Nikes, cinnamon checks cereal, tiramisu, and really any type. of pasta. I'm a big pasta guy. I just can never eat it because I would just, I would, I'd be fighting it light, heavy weight if I eat pasta all the time. It's just, it's heavy. The Italian side's like to have a champion. Yeah, it's like you got to watch yourself on this quarantine thing. Like I'm trying, I'm stuck inside. I'm just looking around. I'm like, well, I'm not hungry, but I'm just kind of sitting around. What can I eat right now? Yeah, I have the symptom

checks over there. I pretty much have three of the five things on that list. shout out to the Italian kitchen in Spokane. They've been hooking it up. Guillermo. Gerey Cruz on our site said Stroganoff, he's our Brazilian report, said stroganoff is huge in Brazil. So maybe that explains it. Really?

I had a, so the chef, Justin Liu and the UFCI, we have this thing where when I come to town, we'll make weird pizzas. And I had him make me a stroganoff pizza once. Wow. What? Oh, my God. I'll give it a go.

Let's send a fork. Shot that one down. got to jot that one down stroganoff pizza yeah i might try and make it myself it was really good it's um it's a beautiful thing the italians like you you are you of italian heritage with a name like he is i think you would be yeah yep yeah so yeah yeah that food is so beautiful man i don't know how you can be a fighter be of italian lineage at the same time it's like two opposing worlds colliding yeah and italians are fat because well i mean there's some they're fat there's fat people in every part of the world whatever you know what i mean it's whatever but italians like they don't

eat they don't eat a lot until it's like nighttime you have like a light breakfast yeah you don't really eat anything and then you get to nighttime and it's like a three hour free for all i i love it you know what i mean shout out to all the people at it's tough time okay jeremiah yore may wants to add that they also have strogan off pizza in brazil and also have french fried pizza down there too. So apparently all the pizzas are down in Brazil. Oh, look at them. That's a French try pizza. That's interesting. Learn something. It's kind of fitting, though.

It's kind of fitting because, you know, pizza actually originated in France. It didn't originate in Italy. That's scandalous. That's scandalous. Italian gentlemen. Well, it's the Italians that perfected it. But France is from, or pizza is from France. I almost said France is Prince is from people. so, dude.

Losing my mind. Well, we have hit the 1130 mark, so we are out of time, Mike. But as usual, as per custom, the guest gets to plug or promo, whatever they want. So the floor is yours, whatever you want to say before we sign off. Yeah, usually I'd plug some sponsors and stuff. But I think I'd rather just be a little more serious and just say, you know, stay strong, everybody around the world. It's a very trying time. And I know it's challenging for a lot of us.

and there's people dying and there's people getting sick and it doesn't matter what you believe in this is the time to be thankful for what you have and stay safe and stay inside and just stay strong. So much love guys.

Well said, I don't think Pizier I can follow that up. But for PTC that's Mike. We'll be back on Monday. You can stay on our YouTube page. You can watch this for a Pee. You can also find this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Iheart Radio, all that fun. stuff. Mike, thanks for stopping by. This is by far one of the most fascinating.

I've ever done on the A-Sight. A little more about Bigfoot in the last hour than I have in the first 29 years of my life. So thanks for that. Yeah, I gave you guys a few rabbit holes to jump in. You got time. I love it. I mean, we've got all the time in the world right now. But for Pizzi, that's Mike. This is Jose. We're out. Let's go, okay. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.