MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat w/ WWE superstar Gentleman Jack Gallagher

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

In this episode, WWE and 205 Live superstar Gentleman Jack Gallagher joins José Youngs and Petesy Carroll to discuss some of the top story lines in the world of MMA. Some of the topics include Dana White’s recent unveiling of the entire UFC 249 lineup, Justin Gaethje filling in for Khabib Nurmagomedov against Tony Ferguson and more. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Petesy Carroll: @PetesyCarroll Follow Gentleman Jack Gallagher: @GentlemanJackG Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. What is up, everyone? Jose Young's here with MMAFighting.com here for the normal Wednesday edition of the A-Sat. I know since quarantine started, we've been doing this three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but as per usual for the last, I don't know how many years, Wednesday, 1 p.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific, we are here. Joining me this week, though, is, of course, Pizza Carol, my normal co-host, and I am very excited to say, 205 Live

WW Superstar gentleman Jack Gallowher is joining us also undefeated MMA fighter for those of you who don't know I know some people

were questioning why do you have another WWE restaurant we had Viggy on before SummerSlam and he mentioned that we should

get Jack Gahar on the show at some point it took a little while but he's here so Jack how's life and during quarantine time and as I did mention undefeated MMA fighter

for those of you for those of our fans who don't know tell us a little about your MMA background To be fair to my undefeated record, it is an undefeated amateur record. I've never been paid to formally whoop someone's ass, as it were. No, I've been obviously interested in MMA as a fan still whilst being a WWE superstar.

So thanks very much for having me on, chaps. But yeah, I was pursuing amateur MMA and looking at potentially moving to professional MMA as well, just as I was signed to WWE. So I've always kind of just kept my eye on it. And apart from that, life and quarantine has been okay because I can live weights, but I can't go grapple, I can't hit pads. Like, I'm trying to convince my wife right now

is a really good time for them to get through. I've got Peggy. I could teach her the get. She's not into it. She's not into it at all. Well, we had Corey Sanhagen on a couple weeks ago, and he was feeling the same thing. where he was like having random sparring matches with his girlfriend.

He was trying to have her old pads in the basement. And he's still cutting weight just in case Josie Aldo can't get to the States. And he's like, well, I might fight Henner's de Hootoh. My only sparring partner is going to be my girlfriend. So everyone's in that same boat right now. But anyway, Pizzi, how's life with you since we live? It's been a, we didn't see you Monday. We saw you Friday.

How's life been with you? Yeah, just becoming more and more erratic as the days go on, getting more aggressive, melting down a few times a day. You know, about things that are completely fine about 30 minutes later, I'm just like, oh, better make a big scene out of this. Everyone's starting to not like living with me again, and that makes me feel like I've done my job. I've held up my end of the bargain for this isolation. Before we get into the questions, I know Jack and Pizzi were talking about it. Pizza, you were telling me, Jack, his amateur, one of his amateur fights under a legitimate organization, right?

Yeah, this ice FC, yeah, I was saying to Jack beforehand, it bled a lot of the young pro, the young standout pros we have now on the scene in the UK and Ireland. So that makes me think that Jack is underselling himself as an M.A. talent here. And I believe my good friend Asid Hayes on Twitter was telling me earlier, that you train with Billy Robinson, who was trained with the likes of Sakaraba and Shana Beasler and people like this. Is this correct? Yeah, I started off, actually. I didn't start with Jiu-Jitsu, although most people kind of know me in the gym as like the Jiu-Jitsu guy.

I started with cat wrestling in Wigan, sunny Wiggin, very lovely place. I trained with a guy called Roy Wood out of the snake pit. He was the last person to be trained by Billy Riley. Kind of the thing is Billy Riley trained Billy Robinson. Billy Robinson trained Sakarabah. So all the sort of generation of pride, Japanese fighters that a lot of people like is those guys.

Actually, when I lived in Tokyo for about nine, ten months, I actually got to train with Magumi Fuji as well in the AACC. The, yeah, AACC. That was pretty fun, actually, as well. So a little bit traveled. I'm training with Seth Petrazzelli now out of the jungle. And look to Felicia Spencer as well, who will be challenging for the title at some indeterminate point. I'm sure our director, Casey, is all excited talking about catch wrestling.

Before you jumped on, he was talking about his affinity for it, right, Casey? It's a double risk lock, not a commo. Yeah, everyone's got that old impression of the old Wigan man just to do it again, do the whole again. Yeah, my coach I train with, he's a protege of, um, uh, uh, uh, I forgot his name right, Eric Paulson. Eric Paulson. Yeah, so I, I'm all like every day.

Uh, you know, just like, how far can my jaw be crushed in? That's about. Oh, yeah, just like, is it the jaw or the, or the net? today. Every good every good choke starts of a neck crank you know, a crink. Were they

inspirations behind you getting into MMA, Jack, like when you were going there? Like when was a, what kind of got you into catch wrestling? Was that, was that to always move on to pro wrestling? Or did you, did you kind of see that in MMA before you started training?

So it's really weird. I got into professional wrestling first and I was a little bit apprehensive of MMA because I thought the fan base, would you believe, might be a bit toxic. Shocked. Well, right.

Who would have ever thought? Right. So I was a little bit resigned to it at first because I was like, ah, you know, like whatever, you know, it's just the blood and guts thing. But it actually was kind of the Kazushi Sakaraba and it was the, you know,

you've got to find your way in. You've got to find the thing that you connect to. So for me it was oh here is a guy who associates himself as a pro wrestler who is doing pro wrestling moves like the sliding drop kick and the tiger mass spinning back kick and all this crazy stuff and then he was trained by a pro wrestler as well so he had this whole lineage so i was like oh this is my guy so kuzhi sakaraba was my way into mama and the more i kind of became obsessed with him and the history of like him and then the graces and brazil and japan and then you see how like the pride fighters then go to the UFC it just kind of became this natural

progression until I realized I was like oh I'm just as big an MMA fan as a pro wrestling fan now probably it's just kind of like meshed in now and the the wrestling fans are nicer yeah obviously oh the wrestling yeah of course the wrestling fan is so much nicer just read my Twitter it's bloody wonderful if you wanted could you go do a MMA match under the WWB contract? In theory, in theory, I could. Theoretically, if a major promotion was to reach out to me, theoretically, say like last year, if someone reached out to me last year and said, would you be interested in doing an

MMA fight, we understand that you have a background. And I got back and said, yes, I'd be interested. All I would have to do is maybe take it to WWE, and we'd just scum. just how it would work. So, maybe in the future, but it's not worked out so far. Did you just call out James Gala?

Because that's what it sounded like to do. I'm going to take my surname back. You're just going to call James from now on. I'm going to Berrumbolo, me, an MMA match. What is that? Who's falling for that? Come on. Just back up.

Plant your way, sunshine. I was going to say, I think Belator has a Europe. Superstar for a European Series. They're trying to headline a lot of cards with about your size. So the Galaher versus Galaher. When I posted that you were going to be on the show, it is unbelievable how many people thought was going to be James Gallagher.

I think they get you too confused in this world. I get confused with Conno McGregor, and I'm not even bloody Irish. I just have tattoos, right? That is the level of intelligence I'm dealing with with the casual fat now. Again, you understand. Like, all right, vaguely ginger, pale, accent, I don't understand. Not even Irish. And then just, oh, Connor McGregor, that will do.

Then they hit Galaher and then they're like, oh, I know, James Galaher. No, not even James Galaher. Bloody Casuals is terrible. It is absolutely awful. It's just people who don't pay attention, but they expose themselves. So it's kind of funny in the long run. Oh, that's amazing. And Casual is a disease as we know.

so just follow our thoughts and prayers out to the casuals out there. Right. Please, do you not expose yourself to being a casual stay away from casual exposure? What do you got, Casey? All right.

Yeah, yeah, first question. It's fine. We got so, oh yes, by the way, we have fan questions for Jack. I know I know they exist, but I haven't read them. I like to go in blind so we can't prepare. So what's our first question, Casey?

All right, first question. First question. That's a good starter. Let's go have something light. From Greb 77 on the site, UFC 249, a lot to unpack, but what's your take? On the event taking place during the global pandemic,

Tony versus Justin, Dana's plan going forward making up for lost ground, a fucking private island? Question mark, question mark, question mark. So, as I'm sure everyone has heard over the last few days, Dana White has announced he has basically created, he's basically creating like the mortal combat,

that, like, enter the dragon type scene where he has a private island or fight island, if you would. I think there's some confusion over this. A lot of people think UFC 249 is taking place here. This is going to be, like, the international fighters, so like the Jose Alos and the Shogun, who is that maybe can't get to the United States on their visas. Maybe they can go to Fight Island in fights. UFC 249 is supposedly taking place in Fresno.

But I'll start with you, Jack. When you heard this news that Dana is supposedly making a fighters island to hold the events, are you thinking like now we've really reached the, this is, this is no longer, like, I can't even put it into words what we're hearing right now. I was so excited. I was so excited. I, most people like, oh, pinch me, I must be dreaming. This is a nightmare. No, this is fantastic, right? So no matter what, what we're talking about, like the pandemic and all sorts of thing. We can agree, Fight Island is an awful name, so that

has to go, right? You had so much choice. You could have done a Shang-sung, you could have gone Mortal Kombat reference. You could have been Street Fighter, and we could have been like Street Fighter is not on an island, and shut up, it doesn't matter. You could have done so much with it, but you went with Fight Island. Okay, so you've got a bad

name, but think about the concept. At the very least, this is the most bizarre thing of it. I said, I'm a fan of Pride FC. So I'm a bit into a bit of a freak show fight And as weird as this all is I'm really really into the Mortal Kombat idea I'm really into a just let's fly them into an island

I don't know how they're being trained on the island I don't know what the like safety precautions are on the island But I'm in for it because I don't have to do it frankly PITZE what are your thoughts when you hear of Dana White Making a fight island for international fighters I mean it's it's very MMA isn't it like it's the most MMA thing. We're talking about like, you know, how wildest sport is. And, you know, as far as the push for mainstream approval, this isn't going to do much for that at all. I think it's madness, right?

I think I think it's crazy. I think when you consider every other major sport, I's just going to say, oh, well, we can't do this. The fact that MMA is pushing forward, it is not that surprising. Let's be honest. It's not the most surprising thing in the world. We've talked about before. Dana White is not the most socially responsible man in the world. This shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone. It's insane. I think it's nearly gone past the point of criticism and it's gone into complete disbelief now where it's just like, I'm waking up in the morning and all this news has happened.

And I'm just like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, I don't even know what they say anymore. It's just, yeah, I guess that's happening. I guess that's happening. It's mental. I mean, I'm sure all the 30 for 30 crew thought they were going to to get a holiday this month and then they're like, oh, shit, guess we have to go to the pandemic peninsula or whatever we're going to call.

I don't know. Well, I'm sure there's going to be some fantastic documentaries made about this. Pandemic Peninsula. Pandemic Peninsula is leading for the name right now, I'm going to say. How about Corona Coast? Oh, no, not the Corona Coast. The Corona Coast is where the chavvy lads just awful now, you know what I mean? That one was just new.

to be honest, I've got the chaff material for just me and you today, mate. Lovely, lovely, lovely. I'm going to keep on working on names. I'll come back to them every so often. I like to point out, Jose, when you read the question, you said, we've heard for a few days about this fight island. We only heard about it yesterday. It came out, like, it came out.

So, like, that's a long. All the days blend together at this point. MMA is just, it's just because you've got so much time to allow your imagination to go wild. Like someone just says this bizarre things happening and you just left to sit and think about it for a long time. What could that possibly mean? Why? How? Well, I remember we were on this show when this, all this was initially happening weeks ago when we were like the, when Dana White kept saying this fight was going to go on and he was going to find a spot.

We were joking weeks ago about private islands and fighting on a barge or fighting on a volcano and stuff like that. And now it's actually going to be a fighter. I feel like we've been talking about this as a joke for weeks. And now that it's a reality, it's, I hadn't, I personally didn't have a reaction to it. I was like, yeah, this makes sense. This makes a lot of sense right now. Do you know what it's like as well? It's like, it's like, MMA can't exist in the mainstream.

Like, it just can't. It's tried for so long. And it always had to shine in these gray areas in between the football season, in between the basketball season, if there's a quiet weekend. Like, I mean, this is utter madness, but it might be looked back on as a stroke of genius from a financial point of view later on. I mean, if this knocks it out of park and nobody comes away with any illnesses and stuff, I mean, it's going to look like a home run.

And all they care about is money at the end of day. That's the only way the success of this event, unless there's an outbreak over there and a lot of people get messed up about it, which is a possibility in this situation. but if this goes without fault, I mean, I think the business is going to look back on this as a success. And it's not too surprising that MMA is pressing forward at a time when no other sport will. And to be honest, I agree with Dana on one thing. And that is that if this goes well, all the other sports are going to start going,

how do we do this? How can we put it on? Because at the end of the day, they're money hungry. It's an organization. They need to pay the bills. They need to keep the money coming in. So I do agree with it that much. kind of think that I can see where they see the opportunity.

I'm sure all you guys can too. Well, you said, you said MMA is pressing forward. It's not MMA. It's only the UFC. I think, I think Cage Warriors may be trying to do something. Yeah, Cage Warriors are still holding a show. They've got a private location. No island, though.

So, I mean, how are we as excited? That's the question. You mentioned a volcano as well as an idea. Now that's starting to, that's what I was saying, man. Yeah, like, now we're hearing like it's going to be near Costa, and everything, like, if this Fight Island exists, and they have to build a hospital

on the island, because, like, I don't like, what's the logistics? Like, what if someone gets hurt and they have to go to the ICU? Like, it does that exist on Fight Island? They're going to have to, there's a lot more questions we're going to, I would want answered, but like, but the best part is they don't know where it is. Right.

But say we get past this pandemic. Say we get past it and Fight Island still exists after this pandemic. Are we going to have an annual Fight Island events. Like every year we go back to the anniversary of the first Fight Island show. Like Fight Island 1, Fight Island 2. Like, there's a lot

of questions I want answered before we we hold this event. We're only making Dana more excited with talk like this. Jose. He's like, yes, of course. It'll be like our WrestleMania. Marketing opportunities. Right. It's right. There's a reimbursement from that. I saw a good theory is like

there is no Fight Island. It's actually at the UFC Apex Center and it's just gonna be all green screens of like tropical palm trees and beaches or like whatever it's gonna be like what was the what was it Rumble on the Rock in Hawaii they had that epic

when I think of fighting on an island that's the first thing I think of that was like had Anderson you should know you should know Kami Anderson first fight I think Jake Shields won the whole tournament young Carlos Pan is that the one with the Diaz brought boys like they're flipping everyone off

as they're leaving as well well. I was there. That was for lead ex C. That was doing, that was the KJ. Oh, that was the cut stoppage, right? That was a cut stoppage and he was like, oh, no, I never get cut and like, come on. Yeah, yeah. That was the, um, who, who did he fight in that? Hey J. Nunes. KJ. Nunes. That's all that. Don't be scared, homie. That's what that came was his dad or something. It was that whole situation when his dad was there and everything. That's what don't be scared homie line. Yep, yep. Those guys, boys. Like the fight island thing, like, well, I just think it's crazy too. So they said they're going

fly everyone to a location and then they all get on a plane and they go to and no one knows where the plane is flying. Yeah. The fighters don't even know where it is. This is a film. This is a film. This is no longer. It doesn't feel like a real thing. You know, every, every, everything is going to be blindfolded. They're going to blindfold the pilots. You're going to just go that way. Everyone's going to be chanting kumete the whole time. This is a real life blood sport. And I don't know. I can't say I'm excited. But I'm like, curious to see what is going to happen. Well, like, this is the whole thing.

Like, I mean, there's no news, right? The news media are running out with things to talk about, apart from coronavirus, daily updates and stuff. Like, I'm seeing big names talking about this event. That isn't even happening this weekend. That's happening next weekend in the U.S., like big talk show hosts. It's one of, it's in their opening monologues that they're talking about this. Like, whether we want to believe it or not, like that is going to add to the intrigue.

It's going to add to the numbers of people tuning into this. And that's where the opportunity. is for the UFC, I guess. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the New York Times, the New York Times broke where U.S.C. 249 is going to happen. So, like, you see, like, you said it, Pizzi, like, this is the only thing they're going to talk about. So, like, the mainstream of the mainstream is going to, like,

they're going to latch on it. Like, Stephen Colbert talked about it in his opening monologue or something like that. So, like, if this is the only thing happening, I know I'm sure we're going to get questions out of the road, but, like, WrestleMania was the only thing happening this weekend, and it was two days. And I know I watched the whole thing because I was, going to watch it regardless, but like, I was watching.

I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking like, this, so many people have to be watching this right now because it's the only sporting event on. I don't watch wrestling ever and I watched the whole weekend. You know, like I watched it all. Like, I mean, that does say something like, you know, it definitely does. But that was also supposedly like, like it was pre-taped. It's not also not a fist fight where they create an island.

So there's still, again, there's more questions we have. Was this WrestleMania? Did you have to, was it a pay-per-view? Was it just part of the network? Was this one different? I just had a network one. It's the most part of the network. Oh, it's just not.

Okay. Yeah, but that's a big difference of UFC 249, $70. Go on like $70 pay-per-view that you can't, like we've talked about, you can't group together and pitch in $10 each of you. You can't go to a bar to watch it. I'm sure people are trying to save money during quarantine time because I know a lot of people like they've lost their jobs because they're non-essential. So they're collecting either unemployment or no income. So I am so curious to see how this would do. Like, yes, in theory, there's nothing on TV.

So they're going to watch, they might watch it. But like, will they shut out $70 for this? I don't know. I doubt it's going to do a blow, blow everything out of the water. Anyway, Casey, we got any more questions? I'm sure we haven't know. I'm sure we're going to keep talking about it. I want to say, are there going to be bathrooms on the island?

I just want to things like that. Like, they just give you a shovel on a coconut. Like, I figure it out, you know. I don't know. This week on Eurobash, Noel said that he thinks that it will break the pay-per-view record because people are that bored. Owen saying is that? No.

Nile's saying. There you go, Noel. There you go, Noel. Have that. No. Everyone on the A, so it disagrees with you. All right. Next question.

Next question. Ooh, long one. From Diomen on the site, with WWE still forging ahead with weekly shows and pre-recording events, What control measures has Gallagher seen in place to limit the spread? Are these things that could be applied to MMA shows or is the UFC doing a better job as far as we know for a company still forging ahead? The safest choice would obviously be to cancel everything, but it at least brings some comfort to know that everything that can be done to make it safe is being done. So, WWW and UFC seem to be two entities that are forging ahead. I think the biggest difference is WW is pre-recording a lot of stuff.

The UFC is forging ahead with pay-per-views and asking for $70, and it's going to be live, and supposedly it's going to be on an island. They're not in the apex like the WWS record a lot of at the performance center. So, Jack, this question is for you. What control measures has Gallagher seen in place to limit the spread from WW and so on and so forth? then the differences between WW and UFC. So I can't speak to the differences, obviously, directly between the measures of UW and UFC are taking.

I can tell you from personal experience, kind of just what's happened with the pre-taping that I have done previously. And you understand as well, but to put it in context, like, why this is so significantly different for people who don't understand why it's different, I'm not cutting weight. I don't have a fight camp. and I'm not traveling a very significant distance to get here. Most of the people who are doing these pre-tapes live in Florida and they're in Florida. Or they're just staying around the Florida area anyway.

I live in Florida like I said before. So you've already got a completely different situation for what the people are doing. So when I've done the pre-tapings before, before we do anything, we check in with medical staff. We give an update about any contact we might have come in with since our last. like taping or anything like it's very sort of the basic sort of medical form we will be assessed as well and then the minimum amount of crew possible is always at every taping and you can imagine like the lengths they've gone to make sure that's possible

because you have a multi-person camera crew so they've limited it down to the very very minimum crew that we could actually get away with and as well honestly, I think they're doing the absolute best they can from what I've seen. There's been a clear message led to me. I assume the other talent. I can't speak for them. If anyone was uncomfortable, they could choose. And we saw Roman Reims at WrestleMania was concerned about his health as well and the health of his family,

which he was very legitimately right to do. And he said, I'm going to sit this one out. And they said, fine. And they've said to anyone else, if you would like to do that, please this will not negatively affect your career you're standing anything like this this is what i've been led to be aware of yeah i mean i the the things you brought up about not cutting weight no fight camp and you not only do you not have to travel far but you know where you're going like even if it was in say you have to drive to another state you still know where you're going

like fighters don't know where this supposed island is going to be i know we go ahead it's sorry yeah it's also it just occurred to me it's not two teams of people meeting together. That just sort of occurred to me now. We're a crew of people who see each other three, four, five days out of the week normally anyway. The going home to our family is usually the odd occasion. Now it's the opposite. The people we spend all the time with, you know, it's not like MMA where there's a team from Brazil and then there's a team from, you know, Russia meeting and then they meet and then they have to go back to these other countries as well. It's people living in Florida who meet all the time.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, you also have the ESPN plus pay-per-view. You have the entire ESPN staff. You have the UFC staff. Like backstage, I don't know what, like, again, I don't know what the logistics are backstage, but there's a lot of possibility of spreading of virus and they're going to have to test the ESPN crew,

the UFC crew. All of the fight camps, like you said, like Brazil, Russia, like if we have someone from Europe flying over, I mean, even though the UFC London card, we had people from the U.S. fly to London, and then Ashley M. Smith was on the show. She had found out her fight had fallen out when she was already in London and had to fly back.

So Pizzi, after hearing what Jack said, I mean, he makes obviously excellent points about how they are completely different entities, but what do you think about, like, how did, like, WW and the UFC? Like, you're in this MMA world, you hear what Jack is saying, There really is there too many differences to really compare the two, right?

Yeah, and even from the way Jack is speaking about Rome and different, you know, athletes there, it feels like there won't be any kind of big pullback for them making that decision. As in Rome was like, I don't want to do this. And they're like, yeah, that's fine, no issue. But I get the feeling that, you know, if some prominent fighters did that with the UFC, that would be something they wouldn't forget all too soon, you know? And I feel like there would be some. backlash. Is it fair to say, like, Jack, that, you know, people are comfortable with saying that

and it won't have any direct ramifications on their careers if they don't feel safe to do so? I, like I said, I don't want to speak for WWE as an entity. Yeah, of course. Independent contractor. It's just been a company-wide policy. Like, every time actually a development has happened, we have updates kind of coming through to us, like, hey, here's some documentation. from the CDC, is it? I'm terrible with acronyms, I'm sorry. But then we were getting sort of updates from the, you know, from sort of governmental sort of virus things and stuff like that.

Whenever a new thing is known, we're getting updated on that. And yeah, it's just been, we've been, we've known the policy. It's like, guys, we understand this is a weird time. We understand you need to think about your family first sometimes. If you're coming into contact with people, particularly high-risk people, we completely understand that. It's just been reiterated at every stage of this. Even that, to be honest, is a massive difference from what I've heard from the UFC

loan fighters, you know, like transparency is the biggest difference is what I'm hearing. Like, we used to like Eddie Weiland supposedly found out he wasn't fighting Cheeto Bear when Dana White announced the car. Like no one gave him a heads up that he was no longer fighting. He found out the same way we all found out. So to me, from what I'm hearing from Jack, is transparency between the UFC and the WV to their fighters and wrestlers is by far the biggest thing. I'm hearing.

Yeah. And I mean, Dahlby was the co-main event of U.S. London. He was on Eurobash last week and he said, like, I didn't know anything. Like, I didn't know. I presume that I wasn't one of these relocated fights. They mentioned they were relocating the whole card. They were only ever trying to relocate Woodley and Edwards, you know?

So it's like, it's tough. I feel like, you know, based on what Jack said, I think that the WWB have handled it a lot better as the flagship bearer of their sport and their entertainment industry. Yeah. it's I'm still I should be surprised that fighters are finding out the same way we're finding out but I'm not

what do you got what do you got Casey you're popping it again? No I'm just changing the camera angle I just want to be on himself I mean you know yeah which I just do a camera of me while you talk I could do that oh yes I enjoyed a lot

actually beautiful man nice mustache Casey but it's like Jack is saying like the WIB is being so like it's being so transparent and I should be surprised that like you're bringing up Dalvi like he does he assumes like you said he's not one of the relocated fighters but like the main draw the one of the main draws in the car I was going to say like if you're fighting in the UK or overseas Nicholas Dalvey is

going to be one of the guys fans are going to get in the door to see am I'm not wrong right p. Of course of course like Nicholas Dolby is a draw in the UK he might not be the biggest draw state side, one of your biggest draw should probably know if he's fighting or not. Like Eddie Weiland's been in the WF, like in the UFC for how long? And even he dates back to the WC, former title contender. He was supposed to fight Cheeto Vera on the Columbus card. And now he's finding out he's not fighting Cheeto Vera the way we're finding out. So I should be surprised, but I'm not.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, you must get Jack to rate Casey's mustache before the end of the show as well. I just figured that when I saw Casey flashing up with a screen there, I was like, this is two fantastic moustaches coming together. We need to get them to write each other's. There's just two different styles, isn't it? It is the pinnacles meeting. A fusion of styles.

All right. What do we got next case? Next question. Next question. All right, let's go to this one. Easy one. From Mark. Casbrack.

I'm sorry if I mispronouncing them on Twitter. WrestleMania thoughts hashtag dayside. So Pizzi, I'll go to you considering you said you never watch professional wrestling much, but you won't watch the entire WrestleMania. I see a big grin on your face, but I brought this up. So you were live tweeting this while WrestleMania was going, and I was watching, and my girlfriend was all, I was keeping her up to date of your tweets. You were tweeting this like a fight, like a professional fight of sorts.

So what were your thoughts on WrestleMania? Well, just like, first of all, they're way stronger than I have made for it. because I've never seen an MMA fighter fight after getting thrown off a balcony a few days later, you know what I mean? I look pretty goddamn good doing it. But I tell you, realistically, right, because I don't know the characters,

the crowd has a real function in WWE, in pro wrestling. I know where I stand after each of the guy's entrances usually. Like, I know who the crowd likes, who's the good guy, who's the bad guy. And I'm responding, and the crowd gives you, it adds to the atmosphere there, their reactions to the athletes is a big part of the view and experience. And I didn't really acknowledge that until they weren't there at the event.

So it was very hard for me to maybe buy into some of the athletes without kind of knowing that kind of thing and seeing that reaction that the crowd had to them. But I taught the features were absolutely amazing. You know, like that was, I thought that was absolutely brilliant. I'd never seen anything like it. And I had no idea they were going to do it that way. Like, I don't know if wrestling fans knew they were going to do. something kind of offset for that

where it would be a completely different experience but I thought that was brilliant and for them to be innovative in a time where everything is going crazy I thought that was really cool. Now bear in mind I don't watch a lot of pro wrestling so if they robbed that off someone else I'm sorry but I thought that was exceptional that the John Cena matchup

was brilliant. I thought that was brilliant. I thought that was absolutely amazing. I've never even seen the other guy he was fighting but he's a star man he's unbelievable. I was hanging on to every already said. And even John Cena completely taking the piss out of himself. I thought it was great. So, Jack, question for you.

I think I know the answer, but what is it like wrestling in front of nobody? It's not as bizarre as you think. Really? Yeah. So the thing, the thing you have to remember is that you're not always, like you said, like you're not always familiar with who the people

people are in the ring. So our job sometimes is if you don't know me or you don't know my opponent, part of the job that I'm about to do is informing you who I am and who my opponent is. So in my head, I'm just kind of going like, okay, just do the thing you normally do. Just do the normal job and it'll be fine. And after I've been doing, I've been doing, I've been wrestling. I've been wrestling professionally for about 15 years now. So the rhythm's just there. The rhythm's just there. It's just trusting that you can kind of do it. So after the first time, it was okay. But the very first time, it was like doing a training match. And you guys never been a professional wrestling training school, I assume. So anyone who has knows exactly what

that means. It was like being a trainee again in front of your coach. It was that kind of sort of experience. I don't know if I could equate it to anything else. Do you know the verbal interactions that the wrestlers are having on the night? Was that amplified? Was that beefed up, like in terms of were they talking more than they usually would during the actual wrestling going down? Or is that something I'm just not aware of usually with the crowd there? It's usually something you're not aware of. So like, you know when you see people do like, like they mine, like, it's usually the person is actually screaming. It's just that the crowd noise

is like blurting it out. The thing I actually really like the empty arenas for is you can hear like every time someone's getting hit. So like those like punches that people think just kind of whiff by you. It's like, oh, yeah, okay. That's a different type of thing now.

Well, it made the ladder match that much more brutal because you can hear the ladders like rattle off each other or like John Morrison doing the starship pain off like everything like you mentioned. was amplified, it made it that much more brutal. And do you know the thing is as well, like, I'm sure MMA fighters experience this as well, which is, you know, you get here and you hear the crowd go, ah, so you go, oh, that hurt,

but the crowd going crazy makes that lizard part of your brain go, ah, and like, you become crazy for it's like, the problem is when you, like, land on a ladder, you go through a table, and there's no crowd reaction, you know, there's no crowd there, it's just clunk. He's, oh, ah, ah, he's just laying there and pears. It's so much worse. It genuinely is a 10 times more painful match without the audience there. I feel really bad for those guys. It was fantastic.

Actually, the ladder match apart from the Firefly was my favorite thing, but they killed each other. You were really impressed by that we wouldn't pick up on, like, I definitely wouldn't pick up on. Like, was there any little subtle thing that happened that night that, you know, maybe we didn't even, most of the watching world wouldn't have even noticed, but you did because you're in the trade. No, I don't think the only inside like knowledge I have is when an in-joke manages to make its way to television. So, you know, like there's always some sort of like, ha-ha, I'm going to try and see if I can do this. Ha-ha, ha, ha, let's see if anyone notices. And then you go like, ha-ha, he did it.

No one caught it. So aside from like little in-jokes, which I don't want to spoil because it's kind of like there's little private things. Not really. everyone's because the crowd's disappeared a lot of people kind of have to be on their A game because the crowd is that fourth person who's kind of making the match you have to make up so much more because the crowd isn't there and it is WrestleMania and like you see the promos where everyone's talking about like the hype is there like they're more excited this and that when there's no crowd for WrestleMania do you see feel a sense of or WrestleMania Ross Smackdown

NXT, like with these no crowds, do you feel a different kind of pressure where no one's there, so you're not entertaining a live crowd, but you, like we've talked about, there's nothing really happening. And it's up to the wrestlers maybe to bring entertainment to the world during a pandemic. Is it a different type of pressure you're feeling in there? I wasn't feeling it until you said, for the wrestlers to bring the world a new type of entertainment. I didn't realize me with a saving grace. Sorry, guys. I'll get on that.

Honestly, the main thing that I've been thinking about is that you make certain concessions when you wrestle in front of a live audience and a camera because you're serving two masters. So you're always sort of serving the audience live and you're always serving the audience at home. With the live audience go away, it means you get to sort of focus. This is something you guys won't notice is very inside sort of basically. baseball kind of thing. But this is like now it has become much more about just the audience at home, which is I think why people are finding it so weird because they're, because the, I keep saying rhythm, but like the cadence of it, how the matches happen now are different because our audience

has changed in a weird way because our audience has gone from a live person to this camera here. Sure. Thanks, Anonymous dude, one, two, three. open our screen there. I was going to, I wanted to just ask you one thing, Jack, like because of all this practical training you've had, like the catch wrestling, grappling, etc. Does that give you, like, an extra layer of respect

in comparison to some people? Like, is that commonplace in pro wrestling or is this like an extra string to your bow, if you know what I mean? Like, does this give you a bit more of a nod like when they're like, well, this guy's really doing it, you know? It kind of very simple. I'm not, I'm definitely not unique in the world of professional wrestling.

Obviously, like, Brock Lesnar is a person. Who? I know. So, obviously, there's people like that. We have, Matt Riddle is currently in NXT, obviously. But there's so many guys who randomly are, like, state amateur wrestling champions, or they get scouted because of being involved in another sport. The thing that has helped with me is, like, I'm a cruiserweight.

which, you know, for the MMA fans, it's like being a UFC flyweight. You're just constantly battling everyone's indifference despite being technically superior and faster to everyone. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's what I think of you, Jack. Go ahead. Thank you, mate. I knew I knew we'd be friends at the start. I knew it would work out. So the thing that has helped me is being a smaller guy, my ear, like, the reason I'm wearing these and not like, like, like, fudders is my ears are really chewed up from years of grappling. So anyone who kind of understands like what that means, we go, all right, you are, you're short, which for some reason means I'm not tough, you're short. And then they go, oh, his ears are a bit messed up. He's got to cut down his lip.

Oh, he's got a, okay, okay. It gives, it adds an air of legitimacy to an otherwise farcical human being. Have you ever had a roll while you to go is? Pardon? Have you ever had a quick roll what I need to go is? Like, do you ever do that? I've had to play about, but like the only time I've ever done it is the canvas is so slippery. You'd have to wear, you really do have to wear wrestling shoes to sort of do it.

And it's not very conducive for if you're ever playing guard because your legs getting tangled so quickly. So if anyone likes to hop on leg locks, you can't pull your feet out and it just becomes a mess and people just. That's roll all over the place. Well, that's Pete's bread and butter right there, leg locks. That's why I've never gone to pro wrestling last. The contracts were there. I just cut, me.

Oh, mate, I've got a fair decent 50-50 guard. I'll give it a bash, with you. I don't even have a guard. I just jumping on legs and hoping for the best. If I don't get it, I'm fucked. Beezia, someone told me you're pretty flexible. Oh, yeah, yeah. Did you hear that, yeah?

Do you want me to show you? We have a new guest. We have a guest. We have a new guest, he has to see. Bear and Jack. No stretching. Oh. Oh, Jesus.

Come on, Jack. That's a breath. That's a, yeah, you've got a rubber guard there, mate. And you should do some Eddie Bravo stuff. What happened? I was going to say, you should do some Eddie Bravo rubber guard stuff, mate. I actually invented Rubbergaard and me and Eddie Bravo have a lawsuit pending. And I just can't talk about any more than that.

Just look into it, man. Just look into it. You just saw, Jack, because PT did that at USC 246 Media Day. Why? Why? Why did you do that at the Media Day? What was the thing to make it? You go, oh, this will work.

Just let the point. Let me set the scene. Let me set the scene. He just interviewed Anthony Pettis, and I just interviewed Dago Faheda, and we're just talking while we're waiting in line to interview these fighters. And Pizzi just comes up to me and goes, did you know on the most flexible person in this room? He had a bunch of professional fighters and black belts waiting to be interviewed.

And I go, what are you talking about, man? And he goes, watch this. In the middle of media day. and just lays on the floor and does that. So that is what Pizza Carol does during media days. And Petter said nothing. Sat there shaking. I think if he says nothing, he sat there shaking, he said enough, mate.

He said enough. You're on the bloody floor, the leg behind you. Why is this urge, man, doing this? How long in the room were you before you decided, like, how I'm the most flexible person? Hours. Just took a quick look around. The room was like, I know, I know what's happening here.

I was just picking the right moment. I didn't want to intimidate them before he interviewed them. He must be the most interested person at an open workout. He just, like, waiting for the high pick going, I've got M.B. Oh, I'm going, look, I'm just saying, if he needs to get me over to pandemic peninsula, I am ready. I can do this any time of the day. Well, going back to the smaller fighters, Pizzi. Jack also, he wrestles like, do you know what a 205?

Live is Peece? No. So 205 Live is like for the smaller guys in WIB. And so they have to weigh them, well, a maximum of 25 pounds, right, Jack? Yeah.

That's so John Jones's weight class is considered small in the WWW. That is mental. I mean, like you must have to cut an awful lot of weight then, Jack, to get under that limit. Oh yeah,

I chopped my knees off a couple years ago. That helped. What is the, like the, what is the soy's range then in that division must be absolutely mental. It must be like an 80 pound differential. So the thing is that the wrestlers don't get very, professional wrestlers don't get very, very small

is the other thing. So it doesn't go like all the way down to like 125 pound guys. You know, the smallest person in probably in WWB is like 160 pounds, you know, as an active wrestler. So that's still bigger than Tony and Khabi on the way in day. Which really makes you think as well when you think about like actual size differences, like, you know, like how big guys are the drawers, like how that has changed in terms of the average size of people. Now the average person is like the person everyone wants to watch.

No one watches heavyweights as much. It's kind of like rugby players as well, isn't it? Like when rugby players, when you're looking at them in a crowd, you're like, oh, they're all the same size as me. And then you get up close. You're like, oh, holy shit, okay. Yeah, I'm not doing this. It was meeting Big Show for the first time

that actually sort of hit it home because it did meet it like at TV. Him being on TV does not. really convey the size of the man. I've met big people. I've met six foot. I've met all these bodybuilder types. But when you're sort of shaking a man's hand and his hand sort of just covers yours and you go, I don't have a hand anymore, then you know, you understand like, oh, there's there's different levels to size, I guess. Now, imagine if Connor McGregor does jump over W like people, every time he fights, it kind of becomes a story. Like, imagine of him inside the W.B. ring, he would look so small compared to like the big.

bigger wrestlers because he's what peachy like five seven for he's four eight five nine I'd say yeah he's around he's like he is like legitimately around my height and around my way so just look like I know I did that I looked like Connor McGregor joke before look at me stood next to people and that will give you a good indication as to probably how he'd look yeah I think the thing about Connor and when you meet him is the width of them that's pretty intimidating yeah he's super wise he's all lats isn't he as well yeah his chest he's like a shaved wolf or some shit. I don't know. It is huge. His back on his chest are just huge. Like, he's looking upside down Christmas tree. I can always, always ever since he was young, he always had a huge

frame, like a big huge frame, like a shaved wolf, as I said. He has invisible LAT syndrome where his arms just kind of hang off to the side like that. He's carrying office. There you go, bellhop syndrome. I've heard that too. But Casey, any more questions? M.MA related or non? All right. Let me take a look. Do, do, do. I don't. I don't. Thank you for the question. Mark, I'm sorry if I butchered your last name. All right. Here's some, I guess, fun stuff. Here we go. From Sean Denny at Denny Rance, longtime commenter. Hashty the A-side. Can you see the UFC having any issues holding events under CSEC in the future due to bypassing them to hold the show on a reservation?

So yes, gentlemen, if you haven't heard, the California State Athletic Commission is not going to be involved in UFC 249 in Fresno in California. So what Sean is asking is, could there be any ramifications down the line if the UFC is basically holding unsanctioned fights in California? Will that play any factor into their relationship with the California State Athletic Commission? Pete, I'll start with you. What do you make if this whole unsanctioned fights the UFC is holding? What, like, is there going to be medical mercenaries drafted in for this? Like, how did this work? Exactly.

Like, we don't know what's going to like, like, like hospitals. like is there going to, what doctors are going to be on the scene? Like the judges? Like, exactly. We don't know. I think, yeah, I think with all of these kind of things, it turns into an ego battle. I think the whole reason this has happened is Dana White's ego. And I think the guy from the California State Elect Commission also has an ego.

And these will go ramming each other now because this is going ahead. And I don't know if there will be problems because at the end of the day that the UFC is a cash cow for, all of these athletic commissions. Like, I mean, I can remember all this big talk from Las Vegas on Connor McGregor. And then, oh, it might not fight there again. Suddenly everyone changed their tune very, very quickly. So, yeah, I can imagine there will be a bit of tension. But at the end of the day, they need to come together to make money.

And, you know, that's what it will be at the end of the day. I don't see any long-term issues outside of a bit of loggerheads until the next event, you know. Camp here, do splits. We need to set up something of a platform. I don't know myself, but we will try live next week. Going back to the question, I mean, California and UFC's relationship is unique where John Jones is supposed to fight in Las Vegas is Alexander Gustafson. And then all of a sudden, that falls out.

And who takes him in is the California State Athletic Commission. Like, they allow him to fight in Englewood on a few days notice. So, Jack, I don't know if you have any thoughts on the matter of athletic commissions and such. I know super exciting stuff on the A side, but yeah, I think we all have, there's too many questions that we need to answer before I could even possibly add another.

Yeah, I very rarely have to deal with athletic commissions either, but don't worry, it's not disinteresting. We're all interested. It's why we're here. Don't put yourself down like that. You're doing well. But no, as you said, if they've already got like a pleasant relationship with,

them regarding like the John Jones situation. Well, the last, the John Jones situation before the other John Jones situation that were currently going, you know, you know, John. Oh, John. Oh, John. What are you? But if you've already got a good situation with him, like, I don't know. It will probably be fine.

I'm sure money talks in the long term for them. I'm sure Dana White's going to do the adult thing. Dana White does this thing where when you kind of rub him the wrong. wait, he just doesn't talk to you anymore. Like he'll just walk by you in the hallway. Like, it's like, I bet him and Annie Foster were like on handshake terms and now they'll just walk past each other. So that's, I think that's the extent of what we'll get.

Casey, you got any thoughts on the matter? You live in California, Casey. You've covered a million minutes in California. Englewood. Englewood. No good. It's not a good thing. It's not a good thing.

And I think, I think they've already said these will be considered with the, yeah, unsanctioned. Like it's unclear if these are even going to be like official fights. It was this going to be more of an exhibition because it's going to be no governing body. So a lot of questions. So if this is not going on people's records. That's what I was just thinking. Yeah.

Like, I mean, if they win the toilet, it doesn't happen. Like going through the comment section, that is by far the most prevalent like common question we've got in the comment section. It goes, will these fights eat? Like if, like, if this, if Habib was on this card, say, and like, he didn't go to Russia because this, again, pizza, you retweeted this, but to put another kind of nail in that coffin, this is only taking a three-hour drive away from where Habib trains. So if he had stayed in California, you could have just driven that. Okay, that's man.

If Habib, someone won't comment. If Habib had stayed on this card and Tony had beat him, would he still be undefeated technically if this doesn't go on his record? So I don't know. I truly don't know. I'm sure we'll have more questions. Than answers as the closer we get. Can I ask Jack just two very quick questions?

It's very important to me because he's from Manchester. He needs to answer these questions. Oasis are Stone Roses, Jack, please, first of all. Oh, Stone Roses. Good man. Tell us why. So that one album, everyone will always say the second album,

Oh, I enjoyed it. Listen to that second album. It's got like a couple of good songs. Be honest with yourself. That first album is just perfect. And like, you know why it's Stone Rose is not Oasis. You know why. Because if there's not one, there's not the other.

It's like the cover band, in it. I love Noel Gallagher and Liam. But like, let's be honest, when one guy walks on stage, you go, John Lennon, Ian Brown, John Lennon, Ian Brown. Oh, it's Liam. It's Liam. Yeah, that's a great answer, Jack. Second one, you know it at our city.

So, this one will surprise you. I'm the only Englishman who doesn't really follow football. Oh, interesting. Even more interesting. But my family, even though I don't follow football, is City. And I've always been City, even before they were good. I grew up in City, we were a rubbish football team. If I was growing up in City or a good football team, maybe I would have gotten into it.

But they were rubbish growing up. That's mad. Oh, you actually went to see the Sona. Rose in City's home ground, which is an interesting way. Yeah, unbelievable. But yeah, I need to ask you that. I only thought about what you were there. I was like, I better say this before I forget.

Sorry, all sports fans. I think Al, A.K. Leon, I say, when he posted in our private channel, goes, this chat has gone very European. Down straight. Here we go. Well, actually, I interviewed Darren Till before his tie-in-woodley fight, and I asked him that city or like Manchester City, Manchester United. I don't even watch football, man.

So you're not alone. You don't feel fine now. Oh, good. There we go. They gave him a free jersey and he's just, he's a football fine now. Wait, so us in America, we assume everyone just loves, you know, football in the UK and Ireland. Do you guys just, but over there, do you assume, like, we're all watching, like, like, American football every weekend? Like, we're all about the Super Bowl.

Is that the assumption? Yes. Yeah. Based on the people I hang around, you are. Yeah, even you guys, even you guys are watching football at the last event or was with you guys. Everyone does casually in this. That's the thing. Everyone counts.

It's like, I'm not really watching football. I'm just doing this app that requires me knowing the name of every single player and every single team and making the stats work in my favor. And I only sort of follow the games to all the players. Oh, my God. You guys all watch football. Don't try and get around there. I think Casey thinks if he doesn't paint himself the color of his home team, he's not watching. You're all in or nothing.

No half measures. You know, you go to... I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan. My body is just painted. Check out this tattoo. I'd love to do that, though. I'm jealous of how long their sports are.

Do you know what I mean, Jack? Like, I mean, we kind of shorter sports, whereas they feel like... I mean, the amount of drinking that can be done in American sport is pretty biblical. I have contemplated getting into cricket for the sole reason that. I needed a good excuse to just sit around and drink with my wife more. I completely understand. I have no interest in cricket, but I saw the same thing. Like, a lot of time wasted just sat around drinking in that game.

That sounds pretty good. Serious session. And I mean, who cares? It's cricket. Let's just get drunk, you know what I mean? I think we should get into cricket, Jack. All right. Cricket talk with cricket talk.

Over the cricket island where we fly in all the greatest cricket players. and our medical mercenaries, of course, in case it gets a splinter. But look at all wicket-shaped mountains. Thank you. You know, I do like watching cricket highlights of when the guys, they swing and they end up, but the ball just winds

hitting him right in the nuts. It's so funny every time. I mean, that's why I watch it in May, too, for the nut shots. But I also watch cricket for the guys like Coburn. I tried to watch cricket. I tried to watch cricket with someone who follows cricket religiously twice and he was saying there's still there's two different types of cricket like one game of one specific type of cricket could last like a week and the other one lasts a couple hours

isn't it is that what it's called is that the difference just test cricket on 2020 is it jack um we need to get into it we haven't got into yeah we need to get into i i saw i saw a thing on the fast version of cricket that's mostly played in india from what i understand it's a better it's the biggest game in india right now yeah that sounds amazing yeah so one of the comments i said cricket is better than MMA. Tune into our new show. We don't know yet.

We don't know. We can't say definitively. They're not watched enough. Cricket talk. More questions, Casey. Thank you, Sean, for the weekly Sean, Danny. You know what?

This is a question I feel we need to answer. So, for us, media members. Should the media boycott UFC 249 from Simon McGuire. Interesting question. Pizzi, if you could cover a fight on Fight Island or the one in Fresno, California, would you?

Well, I'm going to be covering it. Like, I mean, I don't, like, a lot of people are coming in heavy on the MMI media for us criticizing the fact that this is going forward at all. And I've seen this a lot, even from fighters, like, I mean, who is your manager if you don't understand what the MMI media is? Like, I mean, that's seriously. Like, if your manager hasn't explained. to see you at this stage. You need to really consider who you're with. Our job is to discuss the

news, the developments, and to keep people informed. So if you're going to talk about this absolute freak of nature event happening on an island and think we're just going to stop doing our job for today, you are mental. You have no idea what our job is. No, we shouldn't we shouldn't boycott this. We need to cover it. It's the biggest news in all of sports. Whether we agree or disagree with it is not important. Our job is to cover the developments of the sport. And, you And fighters should notice, media members should notice. And I know, I know Sawin McGuire's only asking us this as a conversational topic. He's a media member himself.

But yeah, it's just what this highlight into me more than anything, all this MMA media, blah, blah, blah, is people don't have a fucking clue what we're meant to be doing. Of course we're going to cover it. It's the biggest story in the sport this year, maybe, could be of the last decade, depending on what happens. Yeah, there's no possible way we would. Yeah, I mean, our job is. to provide the news for the viewers.

Yes. Yeah. Go ahead, Casey. Yeah, like, so I live about, I'm, um, Tachi Palace is about actually halfway in between, uh, about three hour drive from here too. And, um, yeah, um, if the UFC credentials us to cover the event, me and Esther, on our photographer, we do plan on going and driving up there.

And of course, going to, because we're news. We want to cover what the, what the, what UFC's safety precautions. I want to talk to the dog. I want to talk to the people setting the cage. I want to see if the testing's actually done. I want to see who's doing the testing. That's what we're there for. And myself, I will, of course, be wearing a mask, gloves.

Esther, if she's allowed to do cage type photography, we've already talked about it, she'd be wearing a mask, wearing goggles because of the sweat and everything. It means it's not the smartest thing to do, but it's what we do. It's our jobs. And I mean, that's what we kind of say. signed up for and we're taking every safety precaution that we can take so and this is no different

from anyone that has to work at a grocery store every driver they're taking the same exact risk so um now one thing i wasn't sure of is if we're even going to be allowed to by the state i'm sorry by the state because of whole is this considered an essential job but i think media is considered essential right now because of news crews and like they cover they're still covering things so um pretty i'm pretty I'm pretty confident we'll be allowed to go by the state's regulations. But no, yeah, even though my personal feelings, I'm not in favor of 249 happening. But as a media member and journalists, yes, we will be covering it. I think that's what the people are finding the hardest to resolve, right, is the fact that you don't agree with the event going ahead, but you're going to be covering.

I don't, like, I feel like they feel like they can't coexist in any way, shape, or form. I think that's where people are seeing the problem, but they just don't understand what the job is, I guess. It's actually, that's one of the triggers from my rage during this isolation, to be honest. So keep on hit me with the MMA media bullshit. So I go, ah, every morning. It's like all of these questions that we keep saying,

like there's so many questions we need answers to. And like, we can go find these questions. We can go find the answers if we go. And we can provide guys like Jack, who is in quarantine and is clearly a big M. fan. I'm sure he has questions too. How do you think we're going to get the answers is to go and find them? I'm sure.

I'm sorry to interrupt, but isn't it strange to ask the media to boycott this under ethical grounds? Like, isn't it the consumer who's the one who should make the ethical judgment on the product? Well, see, Jack, here's where, I say this every week. Here's the problem with that. You're making sense. Oh, sorry. Sorry, I'm new here. I don't know, but I will say that about like all of you, like all of the WWE people we've interacted with, they have a much better understanding of what the media is.

I really feel that. Like, I mean, you guys seem to use every opportunity is having front of a camera so well. You understand what's going on. You understand that these people want to get a story from the situation. You always give them something. Like even at the start of this show, you gave us some fantastic stories about your MA career. Like you understand the situation. I feel like there's so many fighters we go to and they're like, why aren't you pulling them at my life?

story from me. You know what I mean? It's like it's just, I don't know. I'm pretty angry though at the moment, so we should probably move on to something else. Any other questions? Casey, probably fans. Any good one.

That was a good one though. That was a... I thought it needed to be answered. It did. You know what? I think we got all the good ones done. Well, So we are out of questions.

Jack, it was phenomenal to have you on. We'd love to have you on in the future. I think our audience, just going through the YouTube comments, are pretty blown away, not just about your MMA experience, but how far back your MMA knowledge goes. But as always,

all of our guests on the show get to plug, talk, say, whatever they want. So the floor is yours. I think you've done a promo once or twice in your life. So the floor is yours. Oh, no, yeah.

I get to talk about myself, my favorite thing. Yeah, if you like hearing me rambling, you like sarcastic jokes, please follow me on Twitter at Gentleman Jack G. I'm sure it's here. Yeah, it'll be here. There we go. It says superstar. That's wonderful.

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like, subscribe, things. I don't know. Buy my merchandise. Actually, buy my merchandise. Let's do that. Just buy my merchandise. You got to have to watch the wrestling. I'm Daphne boy, merchandise. Before we let you go, Jack, because I don't know

if we'll talk to you before the fight starts. Who do you like between Justin Gage and Tony Ferguson? So it's a really great. So one thing. I don't like making predictions. Sure. Because obviously everyone says I don't like making predictions, but I have a good reason why I don't like making predictions.

One of the very few times I thought, you know what, I don't think people are giving this guy enough credit. I said, you know what, I think Ben Astrin's going to win this fight. I tweeted it. I said, my wife's picking Jorge Macedal, but I think Ben Ashton's got this. I don't think people are giving him enough credit. You know, like, I don't think they understood what he was like in, one FC.

And then I was like, oh, I'm never making a public prediction again. So that is the reason I don't like making picks. But I will say it's a really weird thing to kind of pick it now because, like we said before, there's training camps kind of involved. No matter who wins, there's always going to be the question of, were both of the guys at their best? You know, were they truly at their best? Because you could say Tony's already been preparing for Khabi,

but that means he's been preparing for Khabi, so he doesn't have these, like, specific game plan for Justin that he can train with his training partners potentially. And then obviously Justin's a madman, so he'll just come in and do whatever. I think, I would just say, I think however the first round plays out is how the fight will just continue. Because Justin Gagie since like coming back, it's all been first round, first round, first round. But if you really look at like Ferguson, even the doctor stoppages, it's like second round, third round, four. He has a couple first round like submissions

when people get too eager. I think he's got a couple first round knockouts. But a lot of the stoppages come in three and four, two, three and four. So I think if Gaichi, like the new Gaichi, the one that sticks back, isn't afraid to get stuck in, but he's just looking for the overhand and welling in those leg kicks is kind of the thing to mask it. If he can kind of play a distance game with Tony well,

I think he can keep that up for a whole. for a whole five rounds potentially in win or catch him and win. But if he gets drawn into the brawl and it's just in gate sheet, so he's going to get hit. Ah! You know, like there's a very good chance that this will just devolve into a brawl. And I think that favors Tony Ferguson way more. So that's my non-answer answer answer. That makes sense.

It's, you, what the non-prediction you've given was far more intelligent than the predictions of, Gaichu is going to get slapped that we see in the comments section. So thank you for an actual answer. You mentioned it yourself. I don't know if you've seen that meme. Someone made of every single opponent that Tony Ferguson has beaten on this long run. Their face is just carved up. Like Anthony Pettus had the towel thrown in.

Like Donald Serroney, his eye blew up. So people don't even look the same after the flight. The thing is as well, Ferguson has more wins than Gaetia has fights. like Ferguson's on like 25 wins and engaged you on 30 like 20, sorry 25 wins and gauged on 23 fights I think and I'm queen in the

seven decisions at most. I wish this fight was happening with full camps like also to put in perspective Jack I don't know if you know the last time Tony Ferguson lost Ronda Rousey wasn't even in the UFC women weren't allowed to fight before the last time

in the UFC the last time Tony Ferguson to fall but we've gone a little overtime thank you so much Jack We'd love to have you on in the future. We're going to have a lot more shows down the road and more quarantine time. We're going to have a lot more conversations to fill time for our lovely audiences. But for Pizzi, that's everyone's favorite, moustachio and hipster. I don't know where you are my screen.

Casey. And of course, W.W. N205 Live superstar Jack Galaher. Oh, and Pizzi, of course, have to carry his crystals. I'm Jose. This is going to be up on Apple, Google, Stitcher, Spotify, everything. But we'll see you on Friday. We're out.

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