MMA Fighting - The MMA Hour - Episode 162

Episode Date: August 14, 2014

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It's the mixed martial arts hour with... The Mixed Martial Arts Hour, back in your life on this Monday, December 17th, 2012. Our final show of 2012, and we've got a great one for you, my friend. So great to be back here in our New York City studios. Once again, for one final time with Isaac, Buzzkill, Brendan, and New York, Rick. You will hear from New York Rick. And maybe Buzzkill will make an unannounced appearance in the third hour as we do our Rick's picks for UFC 155. UFC 155 is in two weeks.

But since we won't have a show next week and the following week, we'll do our Rick's picks for UFC 155 this week. We'll also look back at UFC on FX6. We'll also look back at the Ultimate Fighter 16 finale. Both of those shows went down this weekend, one in Gold Coast Australia, the other in Las Vegas, and two very good UFC events. Very strong shows. Saturday Night's card, as we discussed many times on last week's show, very, very good. The main card was great.

The only black eye, of course, was Melvin Galard and Jamie Varner, their fight getting scrapped due to Jamie Varner, getting ill. He had the flu apparently on Saturday, and the Athletic Commission in Nevada would not let him fight. I actually spoke to Jamie Varner last night, tried to get him on the show, said he still wasn't feeling well, and unfortunately would not be able to make it on the show. But we will be seeing them in two weeks as that fight has now been rebooked to UFC 155. Ross Pearson picking up a big win, George Soderopoulos, losing to Pearson, Hector Lombard picking up a big win. Pat Barry also picking up a big win, and Roy Nelson. We will hear from Pat Barry and Roy Nelson on this very show.

Pat Barry coming on at around 220. Roy Nelson coming on at around 120. Also on today's show. We will be talking to Daniel Cormier. He makes his return to action in his final strike force fight, the final strike force event, January 12th, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. He faces Dion starring. You heard Dion on this show a couple of weeks ago.

Well, now you hear from Daniel Cormier. Also on the show, we will hear from Dwayne Ludwig. He is the new head coach over at Team Alpha Male. We'll talk to him about that. Interesting scenario that came about with Master Thong, who was kind of the head coach disappearing, your eye favor telling me for six weeks, he's back. But still, Dwayne Ludwig, moving soon to Sacramento,

and he will now be the head coach there. I think that's a great move. We'll talk to him about that and how this affects his MMA career. Also, our last guest of the day, will be at around 240. Our good friend, Prebeck, Puyah Rebeck, will be in studio. You remember him from the summer.

He did his fighter impersonations. They were hilarious. Well, he's here to do a in-studio set for us. Good way to end the show, one of our most popular guests of the year. He will be stopping by at around 240. We've got two great prizes to give out as well today. It is the holiday season,

and we've saved some really awesome ones for the last show. First, these Tops Bloodline cards. We gave one out last week, one out this week, to the best question of the day. Hit us up on Twitter using the hashtag the MMA hour. Also, you can leave us a question on the MMAfighting.com page. The MMA Hour post, if you're watching this live, leave us a question there now. We will get to it. A lot of activity there.

We appreciate it very much. And then we've got this round five toy of Alistair Overeem Pride Edition, which is just fantastic. As you notice, a little skinnier, a little younger. It might be the greatest round five toy ever created. Alster Overeign Pride Edition. That is going to a lucky question asker or comment lever of the day. So a lot to get to on this final episode of 2012. And...

Oh. Our first guest of the day is Mike Pyle, and he is... What is he? M. I.A.? New York Creek? He's on the phone. Oh. Is Mike... Mike's not there?

Okay. I think we got him. I'm a little sick today, as you can tell or hear or feel. Just, you know, your typical winter cold. So please bear with me as I fight through this and sound very nasal on today's episode of the May hour. So Mike Pyle joining us in a matter of moments. He picked up a big win on the undercard of the Tough 16 finale on Saturday night. defeating James Head, Mike Pyle and his haircut, on a roll as of late, looking very good. He's won his last three in a row, defeated Ricardo Funch at UFC 142, then Josh Neer at FX3 in June,

and then James Head over the weekend, and most impressive, all of them finishes, all of them in the first round, TKOs, KOs galore. His last loss was at UFC 133 back in Philadelphia, August of 2011. Well, he is on a roll as of late, and he joins us right now, right here, on the MMA hour. Mike, how are you?

I'm good, man. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for joining us. Congratulations on the big win on Saturday night. I mean, what more can you say about this recent streak that you're on? Like I just said, three in a row, three finishes. What do you credit this amazing streak to?

Man, absolute pure luck. That's it. No, not at all. Hard work and just really paying attention to my personal training and just surrounding people around me that are really dedicated my career as well. Bringing in Mitch Coates from Boise, Idaho, he sacrifices a lot. I'll have him in a week on, a week off. week on, week off throughout the camp, and Nate Pettettett who helps me with my strike,

and then Jimmy Gifford, who helps me with my boxing. Those guys really, you know, put a lot of time in with me and, you know, and help fine-tune an old, well-oiled machine. We will get to the training in a second, but first I got the impression, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you were a little ticked off after two great performances that you were fighting on the undercard of the tough finale. Is that accurate?

that is accurate why do you think you were on the undercard I don't know I don't know I mean I had a a super sweet knockout on Josh Neer nobody's put him face down

before in the UFC and he's fought a lot of good guys I don't know maybe maybe my personality sucks or something maybe I don't know I mean who knows man

do you take it personally not really just it's just kind of like why you know like why and the near fight was on the main card I can't dwell on it

near fire was on the main card right I know I don't know you know I just don't know I can't focus on that what I can't focus on is getting back in the gym and continuing what I'm doing because obviously it's working I can't let

I can't let I can't let that bother me but of course that's in my mind I get two nice knockouts in a row especially a good highlight real knockout over Josh Neer putting a face down and then I'm on an undercard

kind of a slap in the face but what are you going to do about it? And it's and it wasn't even a pay-per-view card either you know what I mean it wasn't like it was just this huge stack card with you know But, you know, maybe I could understand, like, okay, you know, there's every legend in the sports on there. And, you know what I mean?

Or whatever, I get it. Now you've got to earn your spot. But come on, I think I earned that. You know, at least have a, you know, a better spot. But whatever, I did my job. I did what I needed to do. And I can't dwell on those kind of things. Did you speak to anyone at the UFC?

Just for your own information, hey, why am I on the undercar? Maybe there was a reason for it that maybe you're scheduling, maybe the other fights were booked. I mean, did you at least go out of your way to try to get that answer? I mean, it's already it's already done, you know?

Who would I ask? And I don't know, man. No, I didn't. My thought was there, but I don't want to ruffle any feathers, man. I don't, uh, I like my job. job. I like my job. I like my position. I like the things there. I like how the cards are falling right now. So I'm going to push it. If it was to occur again, especially after this, then something's up.

Somebody don't like me. I said something out of the way to someone along the line that I should apologize about, I guess. But, you know, but it's all good. No, no. No. No. No worries. Did you use this as motivation? You know, once you found out, once it's settled in, did you want to go out there and really do something spectacular on the undercard to say, you know what, I really deserve to be on the main card here? No.

You know, like I say, I can't let something like that motivate me if, you know, I can't let that motivate me because that's for the wrong reasons, you know. That's not a... Now I've got personal goals I'm trying to achieve and, you know, I'm just trying to be somebody in the sport and going in with a boo-boo lip because I didn't get on a main card and, you know, and pouting

and let that kind of cloud my judgment and my focus. And it'd be silly, especially, you know, as much experience that I have to let something like that bother me. But hopefully it doesn't, happen again and hopefully I've earned a good position and you know and maybe they just wanted a a bigger name to headline that that fuel I mean I don't even know if you call that a headline

and I don't know yeah there's ways I can look at it there's good ways I can look at there's negative ways but I would like to look at it as a positive and you know let a couple of good names um finish the card off for that night on that channel well I do know that that that's the way they look at it. They do like to have a big fight to sort of cap off the undercard, if you will, whether it's on fuel or FX. So that is certainly a silver lining and

something to hang your hat on. Obviously one of the big storylines going into this fight and out of this fight was that you were not training for this fight at Extreme Couture. Are you officially done with that camp? I am, but, you know, I still have

all my friends, you know, that train there. And and things like that. There was nothing personal. It was just, I needed a change. You know, I needed a change in coaching. I needed a change in, and everything. One of my best friends owns the gym I'm at now.

You know, feels, you know, family pretty much. Just has a different feel, and that's a feel that I like. And me, you know, just there's just small things that I, but I appreciate to help me, you know, push through this hard grind every day. When did you leave Extreme Couture? I don't know, probably maybe five weeks ago. Oh, wow. So was this in the middle of your training camp?

Well, I mean, the thing is, for the past three camps, I've had the coaches that I've had. And I've just been bringing my guys in and just kind of using, you know, using the gym there on the side, and it's just been a slow moving process, if you will. It's just been a long time coming, and then now I'm actually not walking in there to train now. You know what I mean? So it's just kind of been that way for quite some time now, but just need a change. You know, there's great coaches over there.

There's a great amateur team that's coming up. You know, there's good things. I just need a change. Did you make that switch in the middle of this training camp or at the beginning of it? Probably right in the middle, but like I say, I was already going over back and forth to each gym anyway to get it done. Sure. In the mornings, I would, in the mornings when I get up, I just drive down to throw down. It's like seven minutes actually from my house, so seven minutes it is.

run down there, do my neds, and do whatever it is I was doing. And then Tuesdays and Thursdays I would use, I would go over and spar with some of the guys over at extreme. But coaching staff, well, right. You were one of the founding fathers, if you will, of Extreme Gator. You were there from the beginning, right? So it's got to be... Yeah, I'm the Godfalker. It's got to be strange to now not be affiliated with them, no?

I mean, it is, but, you know, I'd be honest with you, there's just, you know, there was a lot of changes that was going on there anyway, and then, and then things just wasn't feeling as close-net family, you know. And, and I like that kind of thing, you know. Mm-hmm. I like, you know, you come in and it feels like family and, you know, familiar faces and unspoken, unspoken, you know, you know, rules of thumb and, you know, just whatever. It's just something that I just need to change, man. I'll be honest with you. It's been saying it was the same thing, you know, over and over and over.

A lot of the same training, a lot of the same routine. And, you know, I just wasn't, I just knew I wasn't reaching my full potential. And I'm no string chicken. So I got to get things done. man, I got to do the necessary things to make me better. I'm about starting new families, so I got to get things going, man. Things have to be right. Obviously, every person is different, but, you know, we follow the sport, you read things,

the proof is there. There are a lot of the, quote, founding fathers are people that were integral parts of the team who are no longer there. Is there something that we should be looking at here as a common thread? or are all the examples or the the situation's different? You know, I'll be honest with you. A lot of us all set off of our peer talents off of each other. And in doing so, there was no solid coaching guidance to keep all,

to fine-tune the skills and the attributes that, that we had. And for years, you know, we try a coach here and try a coach there and things like that. And still we kind of just doing our own thing, you know, just doing what we think is right. And you need coaches, man. You've got to have some coaches that are paying attention to you from the outside and watching. And, you know, Randy's career has taken off outside of the Internet. and just super busy dude.

And finally there at the end, just as I was starting to make my changes, Ray Cepho, really stepped up to that. They started working with the guys and became, you know, a significant part of the team. But I'd already made a decision

that I need to seek some other coaches and, you know, that was after the Roy fight. And so when I came back, I got a friend of mine have a home in northern California on a river. So I was out there just chilling one day. Went with my big boo-boo-boo lip because of loss. And like I said, I've got to make a change. I'm going back.

I'm going to talk to a couple coaches I know. I'm going to change everything. And I'm going to see if that works and if that doesn't and then I quit. You were going to quit the sport? Well, quit trying to damn hard or something. I was just pissed off, you know. Yeah. I shouldn't have lost the fight the way I did.

Not to say I might have won or lost, but not that way, not that quick and not without a fight. But so there's something that had to be, something that had to change. And so I came back, you know, just that just, I mean, almost the exact same time, you know, Ray stepped up and started coming in and starting to help kind of guide some of the guys. and things like that. But, you know, I'd already made my change and we're going to stick with it.

And, you know, and it's been great for me. Well, clearly, yeah, you're on this winning streak. You're finishing guys. You're looking great. You said in the post-fight interview, you know, you don't care about the rankings, all that stuff. You deserve to be top 10. And obviously, you want to fight top 10.

Maybe even top 5. Who knows? Opponents. Is there anyone in mind? I mean, a lot of those guys are booked for the next few months, especially on one card. But maybe is there anyone out there that tickles your fancy?

Well, I mean, you know, there's not really, but the thing was, you know, everybody's booked up, someone looks like a dumbass, you know, on other, yeah, give me a, I don't know, I'm just going to throw my name, Costcheck, or give me, give me, you know, Pondit or, you know, whatever, but then Joe, you know how Joe is, he's like, yeah, but he's fighting, so, well, then give me the, you know, I don't know. I don't think Costeck's booked, unless you, unless you know, I was just using that as an example, but that, that would make sense, though. Well, I mean, oh, there goes your skills. Well, I'm just saying. I'm thinking of who's the top 10 guy. You want to fight a top 10 guy. Six of the top 10 guys are booked. Cost check's not.

Yeah, well, there's a top 10 guy. Yeah. So, I mean, top 10 guys, I feel like I've, you know, and I've been there before. Not that they've denied me. And, you know, I've dropped the ball. So I'm back to that point again. so let's do it. And maybe one day I'll break in the top 10.

I don't know what the hell. Well, it must be nice, above all, to no longer have to answer the questions or at least be labeled as the guy who is the best in the gym, but when it comes to the big fight, he doesn't perform. That's what they used to say about you at Extreme Gouture. Now you are performing. Now you are coming up big.

Now you're finishing guys. You're putting it all together at 37. That in itself is a huge coup for you. I appreciate that. Thank you. They say it's time to buckle down and just really focus and make the sacrifices needed. And, you know, if it's leaving, you know, my sanctuary or my, you know, my surroundings that I'm best, you know, comfortable in, then so be it. And, you know, I've made the right choices and things are going well.

and, you know, I'm super stoked about it, and just take some time and chill and relax. Now I've got to sit. Now I'm sick. You know, I've got a cold, so usually every time after a fight I get a little sick. So we'll just lick my wounds and soak it all in, man. Because, you know, I expected to be in a, you know, at least three-round battle is what I was thinking. It was going to happen, you know, because he's a big boy, and I figured it would be. It doesn't take a lot to put them away, but it didn't.

Well, I said that... Right, exactly. I mean, it went very quickly, and it was very impressive. I said that I think that there's a huge correlation between your recent streak and your amazing mullet that is growing in front of our eyes. And that works perfectly for our next guest, who's actually on the line. I want to just ask him and bring him in here. Of course, the man who looks so good in the main event, Roy Nelson, Roy, you're there, right?

Yep. What do you think of? We've got Mike here on the phone. phone for a couple more minutes. So what do you think? Is there anything you could tell about how to really truly develop the mullet into a glorious thing? Because you clearly have conquered that. No, you just got to have to be able to just keep growing it out. Mike's been doing it for a apartment. You know, we're part of the older crew. Right. The 80s.

Are you impressed with it, Roy? We're like the 80s bands right now. But Roy, you like it, though, right? I know you're a tough critic, but that's an impressive looking, malt developing, right? Hey, anybody that... What happened? What happened, Roy? You still there? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, you cut out for a second.

What'd you say? Anyone who... Mullet gotten away. It's always business in the front and party in the back. That is correct. Yeah. Well, Mike, we appreciate the time. Congratulations. You're doing great work over the last year. What a year it has been for you, three and no, three finishes.

And we look forward to what's next for you in 2013. Thanks a lot, bud All right Hey, check the stats I think I don't know I've heard a couple of I've got a couple of tweets sent to me that

I don't know if it's true or not I know you would be able to dig it up that I'm only welterweight with three TKOs in a row Oh We will ask our friends Our friends at Fight Metrick would know that

First round TKOs Sorry first round TKOs My bad We will look into that Okay cool All right. All right. Thanks, nice.

See you, Roy. Yeah, congratulations. There he is. Mike Pyle joining us, huge year for him. All right, let's move along here and go to our next guest waiting on the phone. He is Roy Nelson. Big knockout win over Matt Matreone. Roy, thank you for the time.

Congratulations. Happy with your performance overall on Saturday? Yeah. Yeah, overall, yeah. Why'd you hesitate? I'd have been run through the fight. It was, you know, I needed time to run through it and see, you know, how well I did, you know, in my head real quick. Were you surprised?

I mean, I kind of predicted this would happen. I felt that this would happen. Were you surprised, though, that he stood and traded with you and didn't at least try to take you down to the ground? I never thought he was ever, ever, ever, ever was going to try to take me down. Really? Okay. I just think, I mean, you are known to be such a. a strong puncher, you've got that great chin.

It seems like lately people aren't trying to do this. I mean, I know your last fight ended very quickly, but this one I thought Matt would at least try to clinch a little more, at least try to make it a little dirtier than your typical boxing Roy Nelson fight. No, you know what? I thought personally, I thought I was going to have to chase him around for five rounds. I figured he would run, run, run, run, run. I figured he would try to outpoint me and, like,

you know, kind of do a bit of Cleggweed at the heavyweight style. So you were surprised when he stood there and really, I mean, toe to toe he went with you? Yeah, I mean, he kind of went to toe to toe.

I mean, try to, you know, leave a little bit, but, you know, I've been working on my, you know, cornering you, you know, and putting you, you know, putting the screws to you. And I've been working on that, so, you know, so he couldn't run too fast. As someone who has obviously

been in the fight game for a long time, those of us who aren't in the fight game or at least fighting in the matches, so to speak. I was wondering, did Matt make a mistake by not picking up or at least asking the referee to give him his mouthpiece? I mean, how much more of an impact were those punches at the end sand's mouthpiece as opposed to him, you know, having it back in his mouth? Not too much. Usually when you get knocked out, you get knocked out. It's not one of those. usually the mouthpiece is more that you don't bite your tongue off. Okay. So that wasn't a critical mistake in your opinion?

No, that's not, yeah. I think the critical mistake was actually choosing Roy Nelson. He obviously stepped up. He was given a lot of flack for not taking the Cormier fight. Asked the UFC to fight you when Carwin pulled out. This seemed to have bugged you, correct? Yeah, anytime anybody that... straight up, you know, that becomes a personal, that's more than like, hey, Joe Silver told me I had to fight you.

It becomes more of a, like, oh, really? It's like talking, you know, I was like talking crap on a basketball court going, oh, I'm going to get a hole. Oh, really? Let's do it. So did that give you extra motivation going into the fight? Definitely. Definitely. It was like, oh, really.

It was just, you know, I mean, I had Shane Garwin, you know, talking for the longest time that, you know, I wanted to punch me in my face and didn't really want to punch him on my face that much. And then I had it been all of a sudden, Matt, you know, said, you know, if he would have said, hey, Joe Silva, you know, just told me I had a fight you, then I could have dealt with that a little bit better. But, you know, don't poke the bear. Literally, the bear.

He obviously was in the show with you and in the house and all that. When you found out that Matt Matrione had stepped up to fight you, Were you kind of, I mean, did you think that this guy's not on your level? Considering what he's done, I mean, we can't, I mean, you can't even compare. You've been in this game for a lot longer. You've been a title in NFL, et cetera, et cetera. Did you think that he was not even on your level? No, I figured he was definitely, I mean, he's in the E.C.

I've been Shane Carwin, so I assume that, you know, I'm getting a great guy. He's in the E.C. So it wasn't that. It was just the fact that somebody called me out. Yeah. So you truly believe Shane, You know, he asked out. Wasn't really hurt, just didn't want to fight you.

Is that what you believe? You know what? It's happened twice, so I have no idea. But, you know what? I'm kind of already over it. Yeah. Dana White said that he's depressed, that he's in a real dark depression right now.

Do you at least feel for him? For Shane? No, I've felt more for the people in Connecticut. Right. Well, that is a weird response to that question. Don't you say... If you're going to talk about depression and stuff, I'm just... Okay, well, the guy...

If you're talking about feeling for people, you know, like I already forgot about Shane Garwin. Okay. You don't want to talk about him. You're done with him. Yeah, pretty much. What if they offered you a fight against him, though? Would you turn it down? Have I ever turned down a fight? No, but if you don't want to think about him or fight him, maybe you would. I don't know. Right, but I'm not going to think about him right now because there's no need to.

Fair enough. You recently became a father, right? I did Yeah How old is your baby How's he doing? It's a boy, right? Yep Right now he's about

A little over four weeks Wow, isn't it amazing It is, it is It's wonderful Did it change your perspective On your career, your life, Anything like that? I don't want to say perspective

On wife And I think it just puts everything Into More of a crystal clear path of what's important Yeah, and how was it dealing? I mean, I recently became a father as well. I can't imagine training for a big fight, you know, all that pressure and being in the main event and whatnot.

There's a moment that you're building up to. What was it like doing that while your wife is pregnant, very pregnant, gives birth, then the aftermath, bringing the baby home, acclamation, all that stuff. What was that like? You know, it's just like another day at the office just kind of, you know, it's like getting an injury and then you just kind of have to deal with it. You compared the birth of your first child to getting an injury and having to deal with it. That doesn't seem apropos. No, if you talk about, like, acclimation, you know, like, like, you know, the weirdness is, like, not sleeping and stuff like that. It's like pain, you know, or whatever.

It's just one of those, you know, but, you know, there's one thing that's more important than, you know, I'd rather take care of my kid than train or, you know, and do all this other. You know, it's just, you just, things are just more important that you just, you just, kind of deal with, you know. So, like, with, you know, having a kid, it's just, you know, I'm a happy dad. Did you not get as much training in the last four weeks after he was born? No, I got the same amount of training, just let's sleep. Now, are you changing diapers?

Of course. All right. It's fun, right? Like, I always said, I would bathe in my son's, you know, diaper stuff. It's a pleasure for me. All I know is they got these high-tech diapers where they tell you, you know, if you've peed or not, you can't actually open the diaper up now. It's exciting.

The blue line, right? The blue strip. Exactly. Yeah. You know. I know. I know. It's all very exciting.

And do you think you'll have more? You know what? First, you've got to get past the first one. That's something I've talked to my wife about. Okay. What's your son's name? Jackson. Jackson.

Jackson. Jackson. A X-O-Head. Yeah. Oh, J-A-X-O-N. That's an interesting spell. Yeah, I've got to be a little different. Wow, I like that.

Jackson Nelson. Now, was he at the fight on Saturday? He actually was at the fight, but in the hotel room. Oh. But he watched it, of course. Of course. Now, looking back on the Ultimate Fighter, did you enjoy the experience? Of being a contestant.

No, being a coach. Or being a coach? It was definitely, it was a learned. experience. Why? Why learning? Anything in life that makes you a better person is definitely a learning experience. So you think being a coach on Tough made you a better person? Better person? Yeah, I think it made me a better person of... How so? You know, oh, just, you know, the things that you, you know, just the perspective of people and then how to...

I guess deal with different people in situations. So going into it, you had one sort of set of ideas or rituals, if you will, on how to deal with people in that setting, and now you have since changed for the better. Yeah, it just made me, you know, a better martialist. And what do you think of the fact that this was the first time in Ultimate Fighter history that only two guys fought on the finale of the guys in the finals? What does that say something about the casting, the show, the coaching,

the fighters, what does that say? Didn't say anything about the coaching. I guess it would have to do with fighters, or if it had to do with coaching, then it's like apparently we don't have enough full, but none of those guys were actually my guys. So, like, as in, like, my guys, like my buddies or whatever.

Sure. Were you okay with the casting? Like, did you think that they had picked a solid group of guys? Me personally, I probably would have picked a whole different. there was a couple there was a couple guys that you know actually really wanted to be ultimate fighter guys but then there was guys that just I guess you know they thought it was they walked in the wrong

audition I think it was for like Jersey Shore but it wasn't right and some of them criticize you as a coach of course they would they didn't win and apparently they weren't good enough for the USC so really wasn't, you know Do you think that

Yeah. Do you think that you'll have a relationship with any of these guys, any of them going to be a part of the country club? You know what? I would still be in contact with John and Colton. Those were the only two guys that were really on our team that actually really, really, really, you know, trying to win the ultimate fighter.

What did you think of Colton's performance in the finale? It was exactly, you know, We kind of talked about he's just going to execute his game plan and just be the better fighter. Did you help him train for that fight? Afterwards, no, Tim Kenner, you know, he goes back home, you know, with Tim Kennedy, and, you know, I've just applied that same mentality when he came into the house. And is this something, I mean, are you done with the ultimate fighter, or would you ever be interested in being a part of the show again?

Would I be, depending on where it was at, and, um, and who was opposed on the other side. And things would be a little bit different. What do you think of the editing? Do you think that they painted you in a positive light? Did they paint now? I think with the editing and stuff like that, I think they were just setting up the DVD sales

so that they can go. Roy Nelson had five ultimate fighter winners, five world champions, and the man that created the UFC, Hoyce Gracie. You know, I think that's, they were just to get rid of, you know, YLC is a great PR machine. Right. So they wanted to sell DVDs.

Oh, so they kept that, you're saying they kept that stuff? Exactly. Oh. So they didn't show any of that because of the DVD. But let's be honest, the ratings weren't that great this year. Why do you think that was? It's called Friday. That's it, right?

Friday and then, you know, I stopped watching. Really? Yeah, like, I was. one of those, it's Friday. I had stuff to do, so I guess you'd pick it up on my fuel. Right. But when you did watch, did you think it was compelling TV?

Was it compelling? No, because I had one, I had I mean, it's kind of hard to, you mean, you didn't have any actually ultimate fighter winners, and it's me carrying the show by myself

about, you know, you know, without the, you know, I can't do the editing. If we just did the editing with Roy, I mean, definitely, you know, it could have been a way more better compelling TV because there's a lot of good stuff that actually happened. That didn't make the show. I got to get this DVD. Exactly. There's, like I said, who brings on people of five guys that won Ultimate Fighter out of the 16 seasons, or the 15 seasons brought up five?

That's one third of all the Ultimate Fighter winners. And then three UFC world champions, five. five world champions, and the hoist crazy. And they didn't show any of those guys? I think the only one person I got showed was Forrest. Did you ask them why? That's not my, you know, like I said, I don't do that. Do you feel like your relationship with Dana is better after the show?

Sure. It's always a work of progress. Do you feel like he's rooting for you to lose? You know what? I think he likes to watch him fight, and that's all I care about. After the fight on Saturday, you were yelling something. I don't know to who. Some thought it was to Joe Rogan, others to someone else, Cajside. Who were you yelling at, and what did you say? I wasn't yelling at anybody. Oh. You weren't, you didn't, after the fight, I seem to recall you saying something, or at least it looked like you were saying something. Maybe you were just screaming, yeah, or whatever, just screaming. But you weren't talking to anyone. No, that's just, I was doing the, I can't even think of his name.

But, no, I wasn't yelling at anybody. Because after your last win, you did say something to Lorenzo and Dana, right? Yeah, sure. What did you say to them? I didn't say anything. I just said, hey, what's up? You knocked them out, and then you just said, hey, what's up? That was it?

Uh-huh. Where do you think you lie now in the heavyweight division? Have you thought about it in the last couple days? who makes sense for you next? Who makes sense? No, I just... Whoever's on the USC roster? I think if Daniel Cormier wins

on January 12th, that would be a very interesting fight for both of you. Yeah, I guess. But what happened to Frank? Frank needs to be active. Oh, okay. You're looking at from Frank. If not, what do you think of Pat Barry?

Both of them are going to be on our show in the second hour, so I'm trying to, you know, start something like there. Sure, as Pat wins. But I talked to Pat, Pat, Pat. doesn't want to, you know, fight for, he wants to have a vacation. Oh, you want to get right back in there? No, I just, I just, my thing is I, you know, I'm one of those guys that, you know, I just, to be, you know, I just like to work.

Sure. Are we going to, how are we going to proceed with the VATA stuff? Are we going to keep bringing this up before every fight or? You know, like, that's the thing I don't understand. People with the Zada stuff is, like, it's not. that hard. It's like, like I ask you if you want to do it, you know, if I can, if I can give you

a gift, someone's going to give you a gift, of course you're going to go, thank you, Roy. Yeah. And then it's like with Matt, like, I think I, I call them, I called them personally up, you know, because we're supposed to be friends. And you go, hey, man, this is what, you know, I

want to do, you know. And he's like, oh, and then next thing you know, I don't want to do it. Like, like, wow. It just, but, you know, on the MMA hour, you fight Roy Nelson, don't be surprised, okay? Just don't be surprised if I have a gift for you. So here on out, every time you fight someone, you're going to make this offer. It's an offer, it's a standing offer.

If you're accepting a fight with Roy Nelson, be prepared to receive this gift. Because as long as I can, if I can get a nonprofit to help me out, and there's a, They're trying to make the sport better, and it's a lot of the sponsor because it's a very expensive, expensive test because they do the, you know, CR testing for, you know, the actual, they test for all the good stuff. So it's an expensive test. You know, don't be surprised. And then when they go, oh, Vadas this, Vadas that, like, they got, like, excuses of the wing, gingyang for, like, the most lameest thing. It's you peen a cup and it goes to a lab, and then the lab. he's good or

yeah he got some fishy stuff going on now you did it right yeah I've done it I've had my blood taken out I've peed in the cup a couple times already they showed up my house they showed up gym wow you know the one thing is everybody goes

it's inconvenience yes is an inconvenience as in it's going to take a little time out of your day because they come to you and you got to go peat in a cup But you know what? The only time it's inconvenient is you don't have to go pee. As soon or later, you do have to go pee. Have you thought about talking to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Keith Kaiser,

those folks about trying to use them more, trying to have stricter drug testing, things like that? Because I feel like that's where you can really make an impact on the sport. Yeah, I mean, definitely, you know, Keith and, you know, and have that conversation. But I thought they were using, like, like, over-reemort or something like. that or chale for like the TRC and stuff like as

the ambassadors or whatever so. Do you think those are good choices? Hey, that it's not my choice. All I know is I can worry about myself and then try to you know help from my side that I can control. By the way, one last thing. Did you watch the WWE pay-per-view last night?

You know what? Actually, I did. I was actually asleep by 7.30. Yeah, I don't blame you. I was there. I was in a It was a very good show. Oh, were you? Yeah, it was in Brooklyn. Oh, so did you, um, so did you go to Australia? I did not.

I did not go to either show. Why didn't you, what were you doing? Well, you know, I have a rule. This is a gift. If Roy Nelson is fighting, I don't show up. You don't show up, but you watch on TV? Yeah, you know, I just don't feel like it's worth my time going all the way to Las Vegas. Oh, that's okay.

I'm kidding. I had family obligations. I was going to say, if that's the case, then this might be our last interview. I'm kidding. You know, Roy, you know how much I love you. I had to be home, family obligations, so I cannot make... I actually thought it was the best tough finale in the 16-year history of the show. I thought it was a fantastic show.

I thought you looked fantastic. I was legitimately bummed that I wasn't there. I'm sorry, but, you know, the fights went by face. I was bummed that, you know, the Jamie Farner and the Lovang Lardt fight didn't go. At what point did you realize I wasn't there, and at what point did that bum you out? It was the day before when Heidi interviewed. Yeah, that was a bummer, right? Yeah, see, and I was like, yep, no, see, then I was thinking, I was like, ah, you know what, apparently he's, you know, they shipped him down to Australia.

Yeah, no, weekend. And then when I watched Australia, I'm like, nope. Yeah, I'm sorry Well, I'll be at the next one I promise you that No matter where it is I will be there You'll be at the one on the 29th

29th Oh yeah yeah I'll be there December Yeah You're fretting on that one No Oh okay

Here in Vegas Yeah yeah yeah I will be there I will be there Will you be there You know what Probably most likely Usually all these big sites I usually have to go

All right Well, Roy, congratulations. Most importantly, Mazel Tov to you and the wife on the birth of Jackson. Enjoy the ride. It's a great ride. You will love being a father and pretty cool that you won four weeks into your son's life. Great post-fight speech, great performance on Saturday. We look forward to what's next, and we hope that you will join us on the MMA hour for many, many years to come.

I appreciate it. All right, there is. Roy, Big Country Nelson, joining us, picking up a big win on Saturday night over. Matreone. Let's move along now. Welcome in our next guest. He is one of the true, true characters and legends of our sport, combat sports in general, I should say. He is Dwayne, Bang, Ludwig, and a huge fan. I've got to ask him about our prize today, because I'm sure he'll appreciate this. Dwayne Ludwig, are you there? Yes, sir. How you don't know, buddy? Hey, Dwayne, good to hear from you. Thank you so much for joining us. By the way, I don't know if you know this. I know you're an avid round five

collector, right? Still, right? Correct. Correct. We've got our prize of the day. We give it a prize every week for the best question asked of the week. And our prize this week, one of our prizes is the Alistair Overeem Pride Edition. Have you seen this one? Oh, nice. I've seen photos of it, yeah, very, very cool. I love all the Pride Editions for sure. Oh, it's amazing because he's, you know, a little skinnier, a little younger.

I think it may be my favorite one other than yours, of course. Nice. Good man, good man. Yours just came out, right? Yeah, it was released early November. Did you get one? Or many? Of course.

Yeah, well, no, I got, um, Round 5, they sent me eight total, four package, four un-packaged. So that was pretty cool. This factory over in China, they'll run a couple, send them over for Damon to approve, so the samples. And then they're called the one-off. He sent me the one-offs, which is cool. So I have the one-off, and then I have a four-packaged one.

So it's pretty nice to do that for me. Now, what did you think of the finished product? I thought mine is actually pretty dead on. There's a couple that aren't too true to the face features, but mine's pretty dead on. How many... This is like one of those limited edition ones, right?

Yes, they make 750 numbered ones. Whoa. I wonder how much those are going to go for on eBay. They run for about 35 bucks apiece, but if it's the lower the number, the higher the pay. I guess, like, you know,

the number one of $7.50, I guess that I'll go for about $100. And how many do you think you'll have in your possession? I'm going to keep my four. Okay. I'd like to get, I'd like to get, you know, one of 750, and I like to get number a 303 of 750, those two.

Why 303? Area Coach for Colorado. And it's the name of my gym here in Colorado. And how many do you have in total, round five figurines? I've got over 100 for sure. Oh, wow. That's amazing. You beat me.

All right, let's move along here. Big news for you last week. You were named the head coach of Team Alpha Mail. Of course, Team Alpha Male, the home to the likes of Uriah Faber, Joseph Benevides, you know, guys like Danny Castillo, a lot of big names. Yeah, Manders, TJ Delishol. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the list goes on and on. They've got a lot of big names, and they're over in Sacramento.

How did this come about? It came about, I actually had an offer to go teach at the throw-down gym in Vegas, and I thought about it pretty hard. I'm going to be out for a year with my knee injury, for a year to eight, tore from the time I injured to the time I'll be 100%. And I'm just kind of thinking, what am I going to do? you know, I got to make something happen, and I got the gym offer for Vegas, and I thought about pretty hard, and I didn't like Vegas is not good for a family,

and I finally decided to tell Vegas no, and then I'm kind of thinking what I'm going to do, and about two or three days later, Geria text me, if I ever text about 10 o'clock in night, and he was like, Duane, just to your number. I said, yes, and we talked that night, and I was just like, well, I just asking me if I have a gym, and just, you know, check out my situation, and kind of just beating around the bush about it, And I was, you know, so what's the end result? What are we trying to, you know, get after here? And it's like, well, we need a head trainer out here.

And I was like, man, I'm in the transition. I need something to do. I was already kind of thinking I'd leave in the state. And let me run it past my wife and see how Sacramento is, just some research. And it was just, it was perfect timing. And it just text me out of the blue. It was just kind of a random thing and perfect timing.

And I asked them to bring my wife my out there to check Sacramento out and make sure we revive with the team, make sure they like my teaching style. and how I do things. And I ran out there, and I did about four sessions total with the team. And they liked the way I taught the classes and how I ran things. And it was a good vibe. Sacramento was actually a lot prettier than I imagine.

It's a lot like Boulder, Colorado. So it was definitely just good timing. And all the way around, there's nothing bad about it other than me leaving Colorado. But there's not, I don't actually have many ties here. So it's just, it's perfect timing and everything just work out in order. So when you officially become head coach? I guess it officially announced it. We came to terms about a week and a half ago, and then it was announced earlier, end of last week.

Okay, but you're not there right now, right? No, sir. I'm still in Colorado. I'm going to run out the holidays here, and then come early January head out there. I still actually have one more knee surgery in two days. Oh. And then, so after I get through the knee surgery, the holidays, and I'll bounce up to you Sacramento and get the guys ready.

Joseph Benevitis and your eye favorite, get them ready for their fights. And, of course, you injured your knee in September in Nottingham against Shane Mills. You say you have one more knee injury. Did you have another and now have to have a second one? No, one more knee surgery. Excuse me, one more knee surgery. Yes, sorry, yeah, because the initial take down on the fight, at Palm and ACL, I told the crunch to a pop,

and my knee was pretty useless from that point on, but I continued to try to fight, and while I was trying to get guard back and move around, I could just feel my knee sliding around. It just felt strange. I've never injured in my knee before, so I wasn't quite sure what was going on, but all my focus was on just trying to pay attention to me.

And I was able to get back to my feet. When I go back to my feet, I feel my knee slid around pretty good, and I went to take chae down, my knee just buckled, and I was like, man. So all in all, I had, I completely tore the ACL, and the meniscus, I tore both the meniscus up pretty good. I've actually detached one of the meniscus, one of the meniscus miniscus in the sky, I guess, from the bone.

So they had to go through, drill a hole of the bone, and then I stitch it down, and have to wait for that to hill. And then I go back to two days for the actual ACL repair. So from the day the injury to the date, I'll be 100% to be. It's actually six to nine months total. And you're still a member of the UFC roster, right? Yes, yes, I'm still, they have not cut me. But, yeah, I'm still on the roster, I guess. So are you hoping to...

It's kind of a jacked-up deal for them to cut me off of a freak injury anyway. And I'd understand, like, you know, I got my butt kick or got my gutting the commissioner. I did something stupid, but it's kind of a freak accident outside of that pump my ACL. So I think it'd be kind of a bad move on their part if they cut me off of that. So your plan is to come back and fight, right? My plan is to, well, I have to take a year off anyway. Right. But just change focus.

I definitely would like to go off with a win. But I guess I've got to see my heartlines this last couple years. It's kind of been a roller coaster of emotions, to be honest anyway. I'm just kind of just been doing it for so long. I'd like to have certain opponents and certain things to fire me up. And it just hasn't really been there. So I think if I had the chance to finance. to be step away from the sport.

A while ago I probably would have I've kind of been fighting for money just kind of, you know, to survive. You know, I've never made big money in a fight game anyway, so it's always been living fight to fight, so I can't really afford not to fight. I can just go back and, I guess, being an electrician or something,

but I didn't really want to do that. I know too much not to teach, and fighting is still in my blood. I definitely like to fight, and it's just what I do, but I just need certain things to motivate me. And so, like I said, that the timing of the injury,

and then you're writing me. It's just perfect timing. I feel I'm a great coach, and it's just all the way around. It's just worked out perfectly. So I'm excited about this for sure. I'm being handed a parking lot full of race cars. And it's kind of a coach's dream. You know, I don't really have to go in it.

But yeah, all I can do is get them better. So it's definitely, it's an honor for sure to go on there and teach those guys. And when I have that, and I ran that seminar, I ran those four little seminars for them. they've missing and they pick up extremely fast. I mean, because the love of success that they've had already, not that I'm, you know, I don't know, we'll see what I can do for them,

but for what they've had and for the love of success that they've accomplished, it's actually quite amazing. At what point you recall the point where you went from fighting for the love of the game and wanting to beat people up, people up, to fighting for money, as you say? It happened when I had children, and I actually grew up and realized, okay, I have a mortgage, and I got to take care of people, and I can't just be, I can't just do exactly what I want to do.

Now I have some responsibilities. So I guess when responsibilities played and paid a factor for sure, when I have to start paying the mortgage or paying the bills and becoming a man and taking care of what I need to take care of. Because then it changes. Then you realize I got to win the fight because I have things to pay and people depending on me. So I think that's when it changed for sure. for the most part, yeah.

So right now, I mean, if this goes well and, you know, if things are going well, come May, come June, July, August, the summertime, there is a chance we may never see you fight again? Correct. Would that be a good thing in a sense? Like, that would mean that things are going well. Like, if you don't have to go back, you'd rather not? Well, I'd like to definitely, I'm going to give myself, my family, give the, give Alphamel a solid deer. of teaching and training and become an assault coach, and to see where my heart lies in and see where I'm at.

Because now, like, the last couple fights, I've been getting significant injuries. It's not like to get a bumper bruise or a little broken bone. I'm getting pretty significant injuries. So what I see where my heart lies, too, because it's actually, it's a combination of things. One is injuries, and then just what my heart lies, too. And I need certain opponents and certain things to trigger that fire

because I guess the easiest way, the easy this analogy for the common person who hasn't really stepped in the cage is, you know, when you first get on that roller coaster, it's extremely fun and exciting. But if you do that roller coaster 10, 15, 20 times, you get a little used to it. It's not as exciting. That's exactly how fighting has become for me. So all in all, I'd like to take some time off. Now I can because I can focus on the team and make some money and make sure things are going to be good.

And then just two of my heart lies and do one more fight by, I definitely like to go off. If I do retire, officially retire, I like to do it off of a win and then off of a match. but someone I'd like to fight anyway. Right. You compared the team at Alpha Male to a bunch of race cars, and that's very appropriate because it's a very impressive team, as you mentioned. Yet, for whatever reason, you know, Faber recently, Chad Mendez recently, Joseph Benevita,

they make it to the big fight, the title fight, they can't get over the hump. Why do you think that is? There's a couple things to that. I think one of it's been stylistically for Menlo-Mendez. Menos don't go out all down and start a carotony, and not like kids on class or anything in particular. One thing I do need to work with them on is, well, I guess I can't.

We know that all in the Brazilian, the liner way guys, they're like the low kicks, so I'm going to get Tim Osama's Malking and be turning back with some low kicks, and, you know, give them some of them to think about. So they can't have any kicks to armor at this level of the game. And I think one of the chicken armor is the late kicks. But there's a few more things to that, but that's one of the main things for sure. You mentioned something very interesting on Twitter on Saturday.

You were watching the fights, the tough finale fights, and you tweeted this after Colton Smith's win over Mike Ritchie. You said, once again, wrestling is the most effective yet the most boring. And I thought that was a very interesting tweet because you are going to a gym filled with great wrestlers. Yeah. So how are you going to balance your take on wrestling? Yes, it's effective, but you've always been a very exciting fighter.

It depends on how you use your wrestling. though. So, you know, you can make a statement like I did, but it doesn't mean there's many facets to it because, like Hendrix, Darnie Hendricks, he's a fellow with the wrestler, and he uses it to a Panther wrestler to do it to work striking so people were able to take down the lines that big shot. So it's just how you use it. And it's just one of those things, but like you're our favorite, like their whole team there, two-machimal. They're not the typical professional, they should say typical. They're not the style of wrestler that's going to take

somebody down and hold them and make it an exciting fight. They push the pace and they fight. And it doesn't matter my surroundings. I'm going to tweet and say what I feel. But overall, if you take somebody down and you just hold them, that's not an exciting fight, but it is definitely a higher

percentage of winning the fight. So, I guess that's one way I could tweet it. I would imagine it's very exciting for a guy who's been in the fight game as long as you have, you've experienced it all, to really get these pieces of clay, race cars, if you want to call them that, and be the man. You are the man. You are the

man there, right? You are the head coach, correct? That's got to be an amazing opportunity and one that must excite you greatly. For sure, for sure. I'm definitely still deep in the sport, which is nice. And just being able to teach now, it's going to be fun for sure. I've been teaching, I've been teaching since I was 19. And like all the guys here in Colorado and just whatever in my travels, I always have people in other fighters and trainers even asking me questions about setups and combinations and how I do things and what I think about this and that. So I've always been a guy that people have come to for advice anyway, and I've always, you know, kept a good head on my shoulders, and I've always paid attention to how the body works and combinations

and set up and things. So it's going to be fun to go ahead and start sharing some of this information. And you are going to live there full time. You are going to be a Sacramento resident, right? Correct. For at least one year, I want to see how it goes, make sure everything works out good. And then, but so far, if I'm not but out there, I like Sacramento quite a bit. So hopefully it's a long lasting deal. Do you know what's the first fight that you will be in their corner for? I'm assuming it's, well, Faber's end of February. Is there one

before that? Well, Joseph Benavitas is finding any of the call. That's right. That's February 2nd. Okay, so February 2nd. If, well, I want to make sure I don't want to push myself in every other way's corner. I want to make sure they're comfortable with me in their corner from the get-go, so, but I

will be available for them if they choose. And one last thing. I was talking to your eye about this. They had, I don't know if he was really their head coach, but, you know, one of their top coaches, Master Thong, who I guess he went away for six weeks. They didn't get in contact with him. He was hard to reach, and that was what really pushed him to reach out to you. He just came back to the team yesterday. How will he mesh with you?

Well, I'm pretty easy going. It would be good, actually, to have him there just so that he can help translate some information where, you know, each individual is at, hopefully can be a relation to info. So, for a hundred percent, I will be the head coach, and he will, I'm not quite sure like to set roles where he doesn't work under me, but we'll definitely work together, so that would be good for sure. All right. The two different styles, I have more of a Dutch style which translates better in the MMA, plus with my MMA experience. And I know I'm not calling him master, his name's Tong. It's one of those things. He's actually come from a boxing background, but he's done great things with him so far, so it can only help to improve.

adding some more Dutch style and some of the tweaks I've made to the Dutch Thai boxing system to make it more inequitable for mixed martial arts. So how come you won't call them master? Because I think it's a little bit of an ego thing for me. I don't think anybody should call him to tell him to master anyway. Okay. Because then you don't learn anymore, huh? Right, right.

So, Master, yours, work. But I know, and I've met him, and I know Tong, and I know that the Thai people, and I know, and I kind of, I feel he got the whole master thing from, Master Totti in Vegas, which is actually just a sales thing. He's not doing it to be both, so I don't think he quite understands the language or it's meaning. Anyway, he just went with it, you know, because Master Totti was calling himself Master, which I think is just an ignorant term. So if I called you Master Bang, that would not be... Yes, my wife calls me that.

Oh, really? That's good. Oh, Ariel, come on. Yeah, so you can, you can call me if you like it, but it's not fitting. No, I'm definitely not a master's and you don't learn anymore. There's always stuff, especially with mixed martial arts. There's always an evolution. We're always everything with life and human species. There's always evolution and change, so you can't cry ourselves match because then you get stuck in a rut.

All right. Well, congratulations. A huge move for you. I think it's well-deserved. Can't wait to see what you do with the team come 2013. Good luck. Most importantly, first and foremost, with the surgery in a couple days. Looking forward to seeing a lot out of you and the team bang come 2013.

I've got to give a shout to my affiliate in Rochester, New York, please. Bristol, Tennessee. And then I got one in Fargo, North Dakota. I got the affiliate systems for the Bangmore and Tire. So I've got to tell those guys what's up. All right. Thank you so much, Ben. Thank you.

There is. Dwayne, Bang Ludwig. And before we go to our next guest, want to mention Mike Pyle was right. Our good friends over at Fight Metric, hitting me up on Twitter, letting me know that regarding the Pyle being the first welterweight to knock three straight opponents out in the first round, that is in fact correct. So Mike Pyle, congratulations for doing that. Now, let's move along.

our next guest. He is one of the last Strike Force heavyweights ever. And on January 12th, he will fight on the last strike force card against Dionne starring. He is DC, Daniel Cormier, and he joins us right now. Daniel, how are you? I'm good, Ariel. How are you doing, man? Big night tonight. You pumped?

Well, what do you mean? Well, I thought you were a huge Knicks fan. Nicks against Rockets. Come on, man. What are you off the bandwagon? Yes, I am very much a bandwagon. I've been joking about now my football teams, the Atlanta Falcons. Last year, I really liked the Miami Heat, but now that's changed

because they're not the best team in the NBA anymore. I'm a winner, man. I'm a runner. All right. Well, we welcome you. We're happy to have you on the bandwagon. I really do like the rocket, so I'm kind of rooting for the Rockets tonight against the Knicks.

All right. Well, thanks for joining us, Daniel. A pleasure to have you here. Oh, it's good, man. been way too long, huh? No, I was actually saying goodbye to you after you said that thing about the Rockets and the Knicks.

I was saying, pleasure to have you here and see you later. You didn't get it. Well, I mean, you know, you can get, you can rush me off if you want, you know,

but there's really only one team in New York and that's my Brooklyn Nets. Oh, and now, if I were there, I would slap you right in the face.

If I were like that, and then I would run a while. No, but honestly, it is good to hear from you, and of course, you have this big fight. Finally, you will fight one last time. We're crossing our fingers. The fight actually happens, but I think it's going to happen this time. Gets Dionne starring.

I want to know your reaction when you found out you were fighting Dion. Was it like the rest of the MMA community who collectively seemed to have said who? I think, you know, it was kind of. You know, I was like, well, I heard, you know, I was going to fight Frank Mare. and then right afterwards I was hearing that the Matt Matrione you know Matt Matrione so I was kind of under the impression

it was going to be a UFC guy because then Fabrice O'Ruddin was saying you know it was just a whole bunch of names being floated around and then when they told me who I was fighting you know the only way I knew who Dion was honestly

was because he was supposed to fight Mike Kyle in September right so it was it was kind of that way but then it was refocused, recharging and start preparing for Deon Sarm. Have you watched a lot of film on him? I've watched some.

I mean, I'm not a guy that watches a ton of film on guys. You know, I didn't do it much in wrestling. And because you don't want to really like start focusing on something a guy does time and time again. And then he comes into the fight and you're expecting that thing. And then it's something completely different. So I've watched a little bit just to kind of get an idea of how he fights, but nothing I'm going to base how I'm going to fight him on. So what's the DC scouting report on Dion Starring?

Man, he's very tough. He's a guy that's fought anyone. He fights anyone that they put in front of him. He's a guy that brings a fight every time. I mean, you know, just because the guy isn't very well known doesn't mean that he's not a good fighter. And I think Dion's a very good fighter. Mentally, though, was it initially hard to get up

for this fight because you had a huge fight against Mir, then talks of some other UFC guys. I mean, this is a drop in at least name opponent, right? Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, well, there aren't many guys that you're going to get that their name value is at highest Frank Meir. You know, and then, you know, to hear Matt Mitreone, who made a event of the UFC card just last weekend,

and then come to find out Czech Congo was also offered the fight. So there are some pretty decent names being thrown around and to get a guy that's never fought the United States. States before strike force or the UFC, it's obviously going to be a drop off in name value, but, you know, it's all, it's all, you know, relative to what I'm trying to do. You know, this is just another step in my journey in terms of getting to the UFC and getting big fights. Did you ask Strike Force why, Dion?

No, never did. I've never really done that. You know, I've never really been the one to sit at and call guys out and try to set up my next fight or this fight or whoever. But so when they said that's who you're fighting, I just took it as such. I mean, it's not my job to make fights, you know. I just, I tried that and people kind of jumped down my throat

for trying to fight John Jones. And that's really not me, but obviously that's kind of the way it needs to be now. It's an interesting situation because the light is there at the end of the tunnel. You know after, you know, January 12th, come January 13, you are a UFC fighter. Is it hard to not focus on that? Is it hard? Or do you find yourself at times maybe looking past January 12th and just dreaming about what it's going to be like come January 13 and beyond? Well, I don't think I'll never look past my opponent, but obviously it's a natural human nature to think about what's going to happen in the future.

I was doing pretty good at actually just focused on my fight until you did that interview with Frank Mirr last weekend. And then that kind of hold my eyes to it and go, well, you know what, man, maybe this fight can't happen. And I'm in line for some pretty big fights right away. Yeah, so I spoke to Frank Meir in Seattle. You can see that on the Fuel TV website or YouTube.com slash Fuel TV. He talked about the injury that forced him out of the bout against you. And that was supposed to take place in November, also in Oklahoma City, but said upon his return, he would still like to fight you. Is that the fight that interests you most, you know, upon your UFC debut?

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the fight that I want. Listen, Frank Meir and I have some unfinished business. You know, I had to put in a full training camp from Frank. And to not get to fight him at the end of it was pretty disappointed. So hopefully I get through this fight with Dion, you know, the hand. Hopefully the hand holds up this time and I don't break it or anything. And I can win the fight and then, you know, move on to Frank. You know, I would like to fight Dion in January.

And then hopefully I know to Montreal, cards filling up pretty nicely, but the one right after that, I'd like for Frank and I to be on that card ready to fight. So despite the fact that Frank, and he is coming off a loss to the champion, but you know, you look spectacular. You're going to have a lot of buzz and a lot of momentum behind you. And let's be honest, there's no clear-cut number one guy at heavyweight right now in the UFC. You've got Overeem fighting Bigfoot, but you beat Bigfoot. And who knows what happens with Overeem. You got some other guys out there. You would rather fight me or a guy coming off a loss than maybe, you know, one of those two, three guys to be right up there for a title shot?

Well, I mean, I think by fighting Frank Mirren doesn't eliminate you from a title shot. Sure, sure. Honestly, I thought that if I fought Frank in November, I could ask for an immediate title shot because of the list of opponents I would have put back to back. You know, and no knock on Dion, I just don't think if I win that fight, it warrants me calling for an immediate title shot, as I would have if I would have beat. and Frank Mir, who was a former UFC champion. So not based on Dion's fighting ability, but again, name recognition,

I don't think I can ask for an immediate title shot after that fight. You don't think wins over Bigfoot and Barnett and the way you beat them weren't getting the title shot by themselves? Dion is like icing on the cake. Well, I think it did, but then I think it needs to be, well, you know, there's just a lot of ways, you know, to lose this. fight, you know, like with Dion. I could lose this fight.

Dion's a guy that actually can make fights look pretty bad. You know, he ties you up and he makes the fight ugly. You know, that's a way I could lose this fight. Just a number of ways to lose a lot of things in this fight. And Ariel, don't play with your phone. Yeah, what's going on? People are calling me in the middle.

I tried to turn it off. I have a funny... You would never guess who's calling me right now. Unbelievable. Anyhow, sorry about that. But it's just... It's just, I just think that when it comes to the organization and everything else, I've got to beat a guy like Frank or a guy like Josh, for that matter,

that actually held the belt before you start asking for title shots. Okay, so I know you hate this, but, I mean, it's right there. I mean, we are coming at a collision here. December 29th, your good friend, Kane Velasquez, is fighting for the title. What will you do if he wins? You win. What are you going to do? Hey, Daniel, I'm talking to.

Who are you talking to over there? I mean, you talk about being rude. Really? Oh, I'm talking to my girlfriend. She's actually over here making, like, she has her hand puppets that she uses with our children. Okay. And she's going right behind me, right behind the computer. She's trying to mess you up right now?

Yeah, she doesn't. She, she can do that. I love hand puppets. Does she want to get some? Oh, okay, fine. No, but honestly, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Because, you know, Nate Diaz said if he won the belt in Seattle,

Gilbert Melendez was going down to 145. Are you going to do the same? Well, my first UFC fight is going to be against Frank Mir, regardless of what happens. Okay. I mean, you know, so then I've got decision to make. You know, there's a lot of things, you know. I think the UFC's made it pretty clear that Alistair Overeem is the guy they want to fight next for the belt. I mean, that's, you know, he was actually pretty close to getting a title shot after the suspension.

Sure. So there's some work to be done. for Kane and myself before that actually becomes our reality. I mean, I could lose to Dion Starring. I could lose to Frank Meier afterwards, and I could be, you know, three, four fights away from a championship. Or I can win both of those fights, and then we really got a conversation to have, right?

Oh, yeah. I mean, what happens then in that scenario? Well, I mean, I think... Well, I think it's a likely scenario, honestly. Yeah. I expect Kane to win at the end of the year, and I think Kane will beat Alistrovering, too. or whoever is the guy that fights him for the belt.

And then, you know, what we do is we all get together as a group, my management team, which is also Kane's management team, our training partners, coaches, and we see where we go forward. Ideally, I would much rather not fight Kane, as Kane has said himself. So I would, I'd explore my options, one being going down to the weight below. Here's a crazy scenario for you In a very possible scenario You win on January 12th

Two weeks prior to that Kane Velasquez beats Junio Santos right A month later Bigfoot Silva beats Alster Overeem Right Kane Velasquez already demolished Bigfoot Silva You my friend are you And I did too

I forget I did too Of course You're the number one contender Yeah I mean that's uh We could be talking about this situation come February 3rd. This could be a very real situation

come February 3rd. Well, I mean, you know, then that's a conversation that we all have to sit on and have. I mean, you know, again, it's not really our reality. You know, I like to kind of live in the here and now. You know, like right now I've got to focus on

getting past this fight, he's got to win this fight, and if Bigfoot still wins, you know, then we got some stuff to discuss. How's he looking? King. Yeah. Looking fantastic. He's looking as sharp as I've seen him in a really long time.

And that's why the confidence level is so high for me. Because as a training partner, as a friend, and as a guy that actually does all of his wrestling, I haven't seen him look this good since before we went to the Brock Lesnar fight. So he's sharp, man. Are you over the John Jones stuff? Well, not really. I mean, I would still like to fight John Jones if that became,

I had that opportunity, but you got to kind of take a step back. You know, I fight it heavyweight, and obviously, you know, I've got some work to do before I warrant getting to fight John Jones. But do you? I mean, I mean, again, the Chal Sondon thing, right? According to him. Right, according to him, right. But do you feel like he disrespected you? Well, I think there are a number of ways you can look at things.

and by saying that, you know, what's it based on? You know, I've won every fight I've been in and I've done everything. Everybody's asked me to do so in that sense a little. But, I mean, he can look at it as I'm disrespecting him by calling him out over and over again when he's probably the number one and two fighter in the world. And, you know, I haven't really been fighting

as long as are accomplished the things that he has. But you know what, man, what is it based on? What is it based on? and trust me, Ariel, I tell you this, with 100% confidence. If I was ever offered that fight, there would be no hesitation in signing the contract. Wow. And you'd be ready, willing, able to cut the weight, right? Oh, I do it.

I mean, I've actually been in training camp here, and I'm a month out for my fight, and I've actually been lighter than I was, even at the end of my training camp for the Barnett fight, so it's really good. Is there something about John that you just don't like, or do you just like that matchup very much? Well, I think it's a great, I think it's a good matchup, and also I think he's the best. I mean, I really do think John Jones is the best.

And as a competitor, I've always wanted to compete against the best. I mean, when I wrestled, I wrestled in the Olympic semifinals against a guy named Gonzalo from Russia, who was an Olympic champion and six-time world champion, and there was nothing that got me as excited.

You know, I never beat the guy. The guy beat me three times over the course of my career, but every time we wrestled, I felt like, okay, this is what I've trained for every day for the past year, two years, three years. So as I prepare for my fight with Dion, I'm preparing for Junior Dos Santos. I'm preparing for John Jones

because I always believe that if you prepare for the best guy, everybody else is to take care of him. The Josh Kostech situation, the black cloud that was Kostechek, and I'm not saying because he's a bad guy, but just that drama with a reality show and whatnot. Has it gone away? Yeah, it's done, man. You know, I think Josh has moved on.

We don't really know what's going on in terms of him getting scheduled for fights or anything, but he's moved on and we have. I mean, you've got to realize that in our gym right now it's a really busy time. You know, we've got a King's fight on December 29th, Todd Duffy's fight on December 29th. Mike Kyle fights on January 12th with me, King Moe fights the following two weeks afterwards,

and then John Fitch fights. Right around Super Bowl. So it's a great time to be a part of AKA. And, you know, there's no reason to be worrying about what another guy's done because Josh has moved on, so we have to. Yeah, I was just about to mention that. It's an unbelievable stretch coming up for you guys, end of the year to February. I just want to ask you quickly about Todd Duffy.

You mentioned him. Where's his head at? He's been a bit of an enigma, if you will. Do you feel like he's putting it all together? You know, the thing about Todd is, physically he's never had any issues. you know, physically, Todd Duffy is probably one of the most gifted guys that I've ever trained with or been around. You know, he's strong. I make this joke that he has the strength of 10 men and the strength of like 80 hippies, you know,

because he's so big and strong. But he physically, he never had a problem. It's mentally, you know, and right now Todd seems to be in a pretty good place of top. And the guy that he's fighting, Phil, is going to be in for a tough night. if he's not very well prepared. Now here's an amazing thing. I don't know if a lot of people know this, but come December 28th and December 29th,

you and I, Daniel, you will have the honor of being called my colleague on Fuel TV. We'll be working together on the UFC 155 coverage. First things first, how are you going to be cornering Kane Velasquez and working on TV? Well, you see, that's my, that was our dilemma. But, Ariel, okay.

I just got a couple suits made because I have to look great. Oh, yeah. But it's great company, Bello Verde, two pre-suits. Whoa. So they're dressing me, and what I'm going to do is I made sure Kane Velasquez's walkout T-shirt matches my suit pants so that I don't look like a complete fool walking to the cage and then trying to rush back to the set. But I'm excited, man.

This is something that I've wanted to do for a long time, and I'm very grateful to everybody at Fuel TV and the UFC for actually giving me a chance to do it. Ivo often said that you are one of these smartest minds in the game as far as analysts go. I'm so happy that they're finally giving you this opportunity to do it. I think you're going to do great. But honestly, how are you going to transition? I mean, on fight night, how are you going to take off the hat of being his friend and teammate? You know, it could happen.

He could lose again. And then go there and speak honestly about his fight. Well, I mean, if you look back, you know, I had to do that before. You know, I did a MMA live on the SPN right before he fought the first time. And I gave my genuine idea of what I thought the fight was going to play out. And then came loss. And then I went back the following week and gave a fair assessment of what happened. Listen, if anybody can break down that fight, it's maybe because I'm so close to it.

I'm at the cage. So imagine the experience what guy has done that, you know, going from the cage and cornering the guy to go back and break down the fight when it's fresh. You know, so the emotion you're going to get is going to be as real as anybody can have. You know, so I think it's going to be great. You know, I have to be professional. You know, you have to be professional. And obviously, the people at Fuel TV feel that I can do that.

And I know I can. You know, he said, you're right. There is a chance Kane loses his fight. And if he does, I will have to hold my tongue so that I'm not trying to choke Junior Dos Santos as he sits right next to me in a post-fight interview, I guess. Could be a cool moment, A, if Junior's sitting there and you call him out, or B, if Kane is sitting there and you call him out. You can't go wrong either way.

It's going to be, well, I mean, you know, when you look at the ranking and you see a guy that's actually that closed myself to the belt, it's going to be pretty cool to actually see that guy right on set with the person that wins that belt. That's actually going to be a pretty cool moment. I tell Kane, I expect him to win on the, December 29, so he's going to actually make me do something. I never thought I'd have to do again, and that's cut weight.

Wow. It sucks. Well, you know what? How about you tell those guys who gave you the free suits to hook a brother up as well? Because, you know, I could use some free suits as well. Well, first thing you're going to have to do is say the name of the company. Oh, yeah. Can you say it again?

Bello Verde. Okay. This is a suit company. All right. Yes. You have to first say that. And then maybe, just maybe, I can get you a nice blazer to wear over. your jeans because there's one thing you're not doing

and that's wearing a full suit, Ariel. I've seen you for the past four years. That's true. And it's always tennis shoes and jeans. Whoa, they're not tennis shoes. Those are real high-fashioned Nike's. I mean, you're not going to play, you know, a couple of sets on the nearby court with those

shoes, my friend. Ariel, I'm telling you one thing. Those tennis shoes you wear, they would fit at the Wilsonia Arena over in Brooklyn. Oh, don't even say the Berkeley Center. You can wear those at the Barclays because, hey, if those are high-fashioned, the Barclays Center is a high-fashioned, nice-type place. Hey, I was there last night.

I was there at W-W-TLC, the pay-per-view, at the Barclays Center last night. Did you see me on TV? I was sitting in front row. I didn't see you because I didn't watch it, man. I've kind of lost interest in it. You know, I go through these phases where for about a month, I like it, and then I get over it, and I don't know what's going all with it, man. I can't commit to the professional wrestling like I used to.

I guess I'm getting too old. I know what you mean. I'm kind of out of it, but I have some friends there. I don't want to name drop, you know, the WW champion, et cetera, et cetera. But anyway, point being... Oh, listen, listen, listen, listen, Eric, go ahead and say his name. I mean, I see it on all your tweets anyway. Well, you know.

Well, you know... Well, you know... No, it's okay. I'm not that kind of guy, you know, but I'm just saying, you know, you got to go support your friends. He's injured. So, you know, I was just there to offer moral support. Sure, I was hanging out backstage, but that's no big deal. Hey, Eric, I've done that, too, bud.

Trust me, I've done that, too. Actually, I didn't get that. to do it. I asked, did you really do it? Because I would love to do it. One time I was actually considering doing it after the 2004 Olympic Games, they had me as a guest, and I got to go backstage with Kurt Angles. Back in Kurt Angle

was still the man, you know? Oh, yeah. It's cool. But I didn't do it. He told me to keep wrestling. Kurt actually told me keep wrestling, he goes, because WWF is going to be around. Our WWE is going to be around. He goes, so you should try and become an Olympic champion. Wow. Good advice from

Craig. Yeah, I know. It was cool. Well, Daniel, we go. We've got a run. We've got Pat Barry waiting for us, but great to catch up with you. I look forward to working with you. First things first, December 28th and 29th on Fuel TV. That will be in Las Vegas. Then you got the big fight on January 12th. You got the cane fight on December 29th, of course. Great things for you and the family and the team over there at A.K. Happy holidays, and I'll see you in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks. Hey, thanks, man. I appreciate it. Listen, I feel honored to be one of the last people on

the very last short of year, right? I mean, listen. I did a backbook when you invited me. You've had a big year. You weren't as active as I would have liked, but I will be there, by the way, in Oklahoma City for that fight, so don't let me down.

No, you're not. No, you're not. That's impossible. You have never been. Hey, listen, do not. Don't sit here and lie to me face to face. I cannot. Last time I saw you in a strike force fight

was when, whenever in Houston, in Dallas, when Alistair fought in Verdum, I haven't seen you since. Do not lie to me here. I was in Cincinnati in September. three months later and I fought I was there

and we have an interview no you weren't dude nobody was there listen that is true no one was there but I'll send you the interview

I was there I was really there and uh I remember I was at Misha Tate Ronda Rousey in March and my friend I will be there

with my tennis shoes and my jeans January 12th in Oklahoma City hey when you talk about fashion listen don't talk to me about fashion you look at Rory McDonald

that's fashion let's not get started He knocks me off my feet that guy Gets me all sweating and whatnot All right Daniel Appreciate the time Good luck to you We'll see you very soon

All right man, thank you Thanks for having me There he is D.C. Daniel Cormier Joining us on the MMA hour Huge fight for him on January 12th In Oklahoma City His backyard The Chesapeake Energy Arena

Over in Oklahoma City That is of course The home of the Oklahoma City Thunder Now, in a minute, we'll be joined by Pat Barry, who also had a huge night on Saturday night. He defeated Shane del Rosario. And in my opinion, he had the post-fight interview of the year. And we have that clip, don't we, Isaac? We do have that clip.

I just want to play a snippet of that. A fantastic moment from Pat Barry after he defeated Shane Del Rosario and actually made me quite emotional. Follow me on Twitter and whatnot. about what happened. Oh, we don't have that. What are you talking about? Eric, we do have that. I sent it to you guys.

We don't have it? It was on the list. Did you not cut it? I set it up so well. Okay. We don't have it? Well, there's Buzzkill, rooting my buzz.

Anyhow, if you missed it, Pat Barry did the post-fight interview with Joe Rogan, quite emotional, talking about wanting to go home, talking about his girlfriend, who he talked about at length and who you saw on this show. last week and I just thought it was very nice.

Had some very nice things to say about what was going on in our country over the weekend. And I thought he summed up, at least my feelings, quite well. So in a minute we'll be joined by Pat Barry. And then after Pat, we'll have pre-bec, Puyah Reebeck on the show in studio. And then after that, we'll take your questions and comments, using the the MMA hour hashtag. And we will also give away these two great prizes. We've got the Alsteroving Pride edition over here.

We've got the tops bloodlines over there. New York, Rick, saying Pat Barry not picking up. No luck with Pat? Let's try one more time. Right? I'm still trying. Okay, okay. Well, while we try to get Pat

Recapping a few things going on in the MMA world right now. UFC announcing on Saturday the UFC 158 card. George St. Pierre versus Nick Diaz. That's the UFC welterweight title fight. They went with Diaz. Rory McDonald versus Carlos Condit in the co-mate event. And then Jake Ellenberger versus Johnny Hendricks also on the same card. Six of the best welterweight in the world.

Now you can say Johnny Hendricks kind of getting the shaft here, but you know what? At the end of the day, here's what I have to say about the Johnny Hendricks situation. Certainly he deserves it. In my opinion, he's number two. Knocking out Ketman the way he did, knocking out Fitch the way he did, he beat Josh Kosteck. Yes, it was somewhat controversial, but a win is a win. And that's a huge 12-month stretch for the man they call Big Rig. He's getting a great opponent in Jake Ellenberger.

it is a bit of a weird situation for him because Jake did beat, excuse me, Camden beat Ellenberger, he beat Camden, now he has to fight the guy that Catman beat. So it's not ideal. He wins this fight, though. Here's what, I mean, obviously he has to be number one contender. What I'm afraid of, though, is that he will have to wait even longer

because I feel like the UFC is going to say to George St. Pierre, look, we did you this favor, we're giving you Nick Diaz. Now, do us a favor and fight Anderson Silva. I still feel like the timing won't work. Dana White says he does believe in his heart of hearts that Anderson will fight GSP at some point and John Jones. But let's say Michael Bisping wins on January 19th. I think they'll do the Bissing Anderson fight. And then how long is GSP going to wait out?

You know, I mean, how long is he going to sit there with Johnny Hendricks available as well? So I think Hendricks wins this fight. GSP wins this fight. They will meet up. It's a sucky situation because I think especially coming off the Benton-Henderson, Nick Diaz fight, a lot of the interest and anticipation for the GSP-D-S fight, which, by the way, on this very show, I actually said, interest me more than GSP versus Anderson. But after seeing what Henderson did to Diaz on December 8th and even looking at the lines,

like I think I saw them today, we have it up on M.M.A. fighting. GSP is like a minus 450 and Diaz is like a minus three something 30. That's a pretty big line for what was supposed to be the biggest welterweight fight in recent history. Or at least welterweight title fight. I think some of the buzz has died down for that fight. Quite frankly, right now, I hate to keep flip-flopping, but I really truly think that the Hendricks fight, or at least Hendricks poses a bigger problem,

at least right now for GSP than Diaz. Still excited about the fight. Still think it's going to be a great fight. Still think that they put together a fantastic card. It appears as though the Sakara versus Kote fight is not going to happen because Sikara is not healthy. They announced that on the broadcast, but Sikara is saying that he's not healthy. But still, I think with his skill set, with what he's done on his feet, with what he's

done with his wrestling, I still feel like at least now, the more I think about it, the Hendricks fight, or at least what Hendricks brings to the table, is more troubling for GSP than what Diaz brings to the table. It could be wrong. I guarantee you my anticipation for the fight is going to go through the roof as we approach March 16th. It's happening in Montreal. That's huge. Dana White also saying that Michael Bisping likely will face Anderson Silva if he wins on January 19th. We've heard this before. But to me, if you look at that division, he is now the last man standing as far as top contenders. Wyman's injured.

He'll have to fight someone else upon his return. Maybe someone like a Lombard. Maybe he'll fight Tim Boch if he wins. Not sure if he'll fight Philippe, but I think he'll have to fight someone else. Belcher, you know, he's going into a big fight against Okami on December 29th, but it doesn't feel like he has a lot of momentum behind him, which is surprising because he looks so good in that Hussemaar, Paul Harris,

fight on March, what was that, May 5th or something, in New Jersey. So he, I think, may need one more. And maybe you do Wydenman versus Belcher if he wins. And that's your number one contender fight after Bisping fights Anderson. But I think with Bisping being in the UFC for so long, you know, he's fought the top guys. Yes, he's lost some of those top fights. And let's not forget, you know, his winning streak right now is one. He has one fight in a row that he's won.

Lost to Chelsunin. Then, you know, he went out and beat Brian Stan in September. He was supposed to fight in July. That didn't happen. so he fought Bryant's dad in September, and that was it. Dana White even thought that he lost. But I think that it's time to give Bisp being the title shot if he wins. I think it could be a huge fight, obviously, in Brazil, huge fight in England.

So I think that the middleweight division is kind of playing itself out. And I think that's fair. I think it's fair that if he wins, he should get the title shot. So we're still trying to get Pat Barry. No sign of him. Did I give you the right number? Should I check? Hmm.

Your quicks all of a sudden very shy. I want to say two more things before we, I guess, no Pat Barry? That's kind of weird. A lot of people complaining about the Ronda Rousey situation that she's in the main event of UFC 158. What did you expect? She's the champion. Since when does the UFC not put the champion in the main event? Very rare that they'll ever do that, if ever.

Did it a couple times in Strike Force, but in the UFC, she's the champion. How crazy would it be to put the champion? in the very first UFC women's title fight, the very first women's fight in UFC history and you put her in the co-main event, I mean, what kind of a nod, what kind of support would that be to women's MMA? Sure, we have our issues with how it's being introduced,

and everyone's saying it's a Ron Rousey show. Dana White being very honest about that, but you knew they were going to put her in the main event. You knew that they would put her on top of Henderson Machita. Yes, that's a great fight, but you've got to put the title over. got to put the title on the mountaintop there. What some people are questioning, and I agree with them on this, is that Rousie versus

Karmouche, Rousie versus anyone in her first fight, should probably have been on free television, even if it was VX, even if it's, I mean, Fox would be the ideal scenario. There are a lot of people who have not watched Showtime, a lot of people who have not watched Strike Force, who have not followed Rousey. There are a lot of just UFC fans, believe it or not. And I think putting her on free television would have made a whole lot of sense. I'm putting her in the main event of a pay-per-view. There is some cachet involved in that.

There's a rub that you're getting. But I think that putting her against Karmouche, and let's be honest, a lot of people think she's going to be Karmouche on free television, have her do whatever she does. And there's a lot of pressure on her. And then you build off that to pay-per-view against either Tate, McMahon, Cyborg. That, to me, feels like the ideal scenario. Didn't work out.

They want to get her out there. I don't blame them for that, but I think my takeaway from the rousy situation was, yes, 100% she should be in the main event, maybe not on pay-per-view. So no sign of Pat Barry, right? Nope, still voicemail. Okay, let's play that quick clip. Do we have pre-back? Is he here?

Yes, sir. Okay, let's just play that quick clip because I promised it about what Pat Barry had to say. At least we could hear from him in some form. Maybe we get him after pre-beck. We'll keep trying. But here's Pat post-fight, a quick snippet of what he had to say, which to me was one of my favorite and most touching moments of 2012. How emotional as always. I'm here with the winner, one of the most exciting heavyweights on the planet.

Pat Barry, Pat, you're very, very emotional right now. Tell me what's going through your mind. This is a huge, huge victory for you. Man, it's been a rough ride coming out here. Anybody who says they don't get nervous before a fight is a liar. Oh, they've never been hitting the head, man. And it's just been a lot of ups and downs. I woke up yesterday to the worst text message I ever got about the incident yesterday.

Hey, if you've got kids, hug them like as if it's the last day, go hug your parents, go hug your best friends. And if you have any beef with anybody from 10 years ago, that's over nothing, man. Tell them you sorry and you love him because you never know what's going to happen, man. Joe, I really want to go home, man. Rose, I'm coming home. I'm going to hug you for 15 hours straight. That's beautiful, man.

Listen. This is it. So there you have it. I mean, how can you not love Pat Barrett? I can't be mad at him for not showing up. I know he has a good excuse. Hopefully we could get him before we go for a couple minutes to talk about the win and his emotions

and knocking out Shane Del Rosario. We'll try our best to do that. For now, we'll take a quick break. We'll bring in Prebeck in studio to do his thing. And in between that, let's hear from Dana White did his traditional post-fight scrum. This video, courtesy of MMA Fight Corner.com, our good friends over there, they're doing great work, check them out. This is Dana White's post-fight scrum. After the Tough 16 finale, he talks a bit about Rousey, talks about GSP Diaz, talks a bit about Michael Bisping.

Hopefully we get to all of that. In a minute, we'll be back on the other side of things, and we'll have pre-back in studio. You are watching the MMA hour on MMAfighting.com. George St. Pierre said, I really feel like I have unfinished business with Diaz, and I'd like to fight him. You know, you know the fight that we wanted to make. I mean, take Hendricks out of the deal.

We wanted to make that fight anyway. So, I mean, I hate talking about shit before it happens, but what we're working on right now is we got those two. We got Condit and, condit and who do we got? Condit. McDonald, thank you, okay, and now we're working on Hendricks and Ellenberger. I think they announced that tonight too.

They did? Well, there you go. What was the talk like with Hendricks? I mean, obviously Ellenberg is a great opponent, you know, top ranked as well, but, you know, he kept saying you wanted to wait and want all that. You wait, you do the, you do the Rashad Evans thing where you're out for, you don't know what the hell's going to happen, especially these days. If I had told you fucking three years ago that, hey, guys can keep getting injured,

and then you could get injured and you could be out for almost two years. You'd think I was crazy, but it's a reality. It happens all the time. I mean, tonight we lost the guy during the fight at 5 o'clock, you know. Warner started throwing up like the Exorcist back there, and he still wanted to fight, and the doctor wouldn't let him. So. This fight's going to happen.

55, yeah, that fight will happen. Just he also said that if he fights Anderson, he needs to, he's not going to do it just for one fight. He's going to move. Right, he'll stay at 85. Right. That's what he said, but we'll see. You know, the guys never asked us for anything. He's an awesome champion.

He does anything we ask of him, and he asked us for a favor. So he wants to fight Diaz? Not like people don't want to see it, so. If you worry at all about, you know, hijinks with Nick, I mean, obviously he's still in the suspension right now, and, you know, he no-showed and all that last time. Yeah, there's no guarantees with Nick Diaz. I've made a little consistent.

I got nine welter weights on the show that are all in the top five, so if he falls out, we'll still have a GSP fight. Have you? He's got a fucking contract. How do you hold out for more money when you got a contract? Have you spoken with Hendricks at all? And what's his take on this? And is he obviously a little bit frustrated with the,

I guess, signing of Nick Diaz with GSP? I don't know if he is or he isn't. But George St. Pierre is the champion. Champ wants to fight Diaz. He can be as frustrated as he wants to be. When he's got the belt and defends it and breaks records as long as George St. Pierre then, then I might listen to him. Would he maybe be next in line if GSP can handle Diaz?

And he does actually win the fight. Would Hendricks maybe be the next contender there? Hendricks is definitely a contender right now. And yes, he'd be next in line. I guess the critics of the supporters of Hendricks say, hey, you know, the UFC is starting to make fun fights or fan fights instead of really recognizing the number one contender because, you know, Hendricks is on that nice win.

Which is, the UFC didn't do that. The champ did. The champ called him out one. wanted to fight him. So the EFC didn't do it. The guy who holds the belt did. That's who he asked us to fight. And like I just said, when somebody goes on a run as long as George St. Pierre has and does what he's done for the sport and for that division and everything else, they ask for a fight that they want, then they'll get it too. You have to agree with him, that would be the more popular fight with Diaz.

I think the Hendricks fight's a popular fight too. I mean, this guy's been skidding people across the octagon when he hits him. It's a very interesting fight. So it's not a bad thing. The Diaz fight is absolutely a popular fight that people want to see. I think the Hendricks fight is too. A lot of the winner of where does that put them in tough? In the mix. A lot of people are thinking this throws cold water on GSP Anderson-Silva

that maybe GSP is resisting by not wanting that fight. What do you think? I mean, you said you think it's going to happen. Well, he just had a really tough fight. He's been off for almost two years. He had a hard fight with Carlos Condit, you know, and maybe he looks at Diaz as an easy fight for him. I don't know why.

I can't speak to that. George can speak on why he picked Diaz. Maybe he just wants, you know, he was really upset with a lot of things that Diaz said and did. And, you know, I'm sure it's a combination of everything, but I can't honestly say that. He knows the answer to that, not me. Are you concerned at all that GSP Anderson might not happen now because of this development or do you still feel positive about it? No, I'm not. I honestly believe, I truly believe, obviously he's got to get through Diaz now and possibly Hendricks. Who knows how this is all going to play out? But I honestly believe that before Anderson's Silver retires he will fight George St. Pierre and John Jones. That's why he went.

Anderson didn't go there because he's a huge George St. Pierre fan and wanted to watch him fight. He went there to watch the fight to see if his fight was going to happen. Does what hurt us? How did it hurt us? Get over it. We thought it might happen and then it didn't.

If that fucking hurts your feelings, too bad. Dan, if you talk about a decision to put Ron in the headliner of a paper view, I think a lot of us thought maybe Fox, you know, free TV, people tune in for the curiosity factor. You're asking fans to pony up 55 bucks for the curiosity of seeing women in the UFC, right? Yeah, well, it's not, hey, pony up 55 bucks and let's be curious. She's the champ. You will never see a situation in any fight, whether a man, woman, the lightest weight division it is.

If you're the champion, you're the headliner, you're the top of the card. You know, and I've seen some people talking shit about, oh, the women's fight, headline and there's Rhonda Rousey's badass. She's the champ. Her opponent stepped up to the plate and wanted this fight with her when others didn't. I don't give a shit what they say. That's a fact. And there's a great card underneath it. So, you know, it's a great night of fights no matter who's headlining. Speaking. Speaking of that card, Dan Henderson, Leota Machita, you had said that Henderson may not be able to go and that maybe Guff Sisson steps in for him, but then Guff Sison has the 180-day suspension.

Is there any new news going on with that fight and the status of Dan Henderson? Yeah, so Dan Henderson said his knees getting better every day, and he feels like he'll be able to be in that show. And then as far as Gustafson, you know, they put them on those suspensions, but if a doctor says they're okay, they can fight. This division is a bit of an experiment. You said, you know, kind of dipping your toe. Can you evaluate after one event?

I mean, can you determine success or fail after that fight card, or do you have to go a little bit further? You got to keep going with it. That's like saying what people don't realize is there was a time and a day when we put the 55-pound division and headlined it with the title fight and people said can't headline a title fight. BJ Penn and Jen's Polver as a title fight, headlining this is ridiculous, blah, blah, blah.

BJ Penn became one of the biggest stars of mixed martial arts and a huge pay-per-view draw. Would you ever consider doing an ultimate fighter for women to help expand the 135 division? Yeah, I don't know if we would do a women. We might do the women coaches as coaches. Listen, I'm looking at Rhonda and all the other 135-pound women. Same way I look at the guys.

They're UFC fighters, and they, you know, they deserve all the recognition and perks and all the other things that go along with the men. I mean, everybody keeps asking me all this crazy shit. It's not fucking 1920, guys. There's women fighting in the UFC. There's a woman who's a champ. She's mean, she's nasty, she's badass, and there's other girls in that division that are tough, and there's fights out there that are interesting.

And I'm going to treat them the way I treat the guys. No different. So what is the next Friday? The fight is off with GSP. Does he get a shot of Bisping? If Bisping beats Belford? Yeah, if Bisping wins, Bisbing will probably get that next shot. If not, we'll see what happens.

The other women's fights that don't involve Ronda Rousey, I mean, will you try to fill out that division a little bit? Well, yeah, if I have 135 pound division, I can't just have Rhonda fighting all the girls. I mean, the girls have to fight and work their way up at a shot to fight. Ronda or whoever wins that title. I guess a lot of people interpreted when you said, hey, I admit this is the Ronda Rousey show. People thought that that meant she was going to be the only one that was featured against whoever's next. But that's not the case. That's fucking stupid.

That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard. You know, last time people were saying she sounds like this is the Ronda Rousey show. I said, you're fucking right. It's the Ronda Rousey show. She is a huge star. You know, she gets more media than anybody else out there, and she's the reason that I was interested in doing this. She is mean, she is nasty, and she likes to finish people.

But, yeah, I'm... Right, back on the MMA hour. Ariel Hawani here on this Monday afternoon here in New York City, December 17. Thank you very much to the good people at MMA Fightcorner.com for that clip of the Tuff 16 Dana White Post-Fight Scrum. the entire clip on our site, on their site, mamefightcorner.com. So as I mentioned, this is our last

show of 2012 and one of our most beloved guest of the year, at least the funniest guest of the year, I must say, was the man who is joining us in studio right now. He is known, at least to you online as Prebeck, full name Puyah Reebeck. He is the man

who does all the great MMA fighter impersonations, and he joins us right here, right now, in studio. Puya, how are you? Pleasure to be here, Ariel. I'm sad that Pat Barry's not here. I was ready to do a couple lines for him. Oh, well, we may get that opportunity.

Maybe if we do. You need to talk up, yes, the microphone. I know you're used to the computer. But, yes, Pat Barry went MIA. I was hoping that maybe we could play some tricks on. We'll get him back on and I will. Yeah, you got something for him? Yeah, I got some funny lines about his most recent knockout.

Oh, against Shane Delosario, very impressive. Now, how has your life changed, Puyah, since you've been on this show? I can imagine it's like... Paparazzi. Yeah. Yeah, it's been... No, I'm just kidding. It's been just a really good YouTube channel.

I'm partnering up with a guy named Will up in Canada. He does my animations, helps him with ideas. Our channel is getting a lot of subscribers. Being on your show last time helped a lot. So we have a lot of fun ideas. Someone in Brazil told me that one of the most famous, like, TV personalities in Brazil, this guy has like 700,000 Twitter followers, tweeted just like a week ago, the video of you.

on this show, yeah. Oh, the video of me on the show? Yeah. Oh, okay. It was very random. This was like a week ago? It was maybe like two, three weeks ago. Oh, okay.

Some random guy, I wondered if you had a spike, but you are now partnering with SB Nation, right? You're now part of the family. Yeah, I'm part of the same family, and they help me make my channel look more professional, and so maybe they'll get me, I don't know, sponsorship, like U.S. Marine Corps. Wow. I'm just kidding. Neo Energy. Neo Energy.

And you have these. animations now. You're really stepping things up here. You mentioned Will. How did you team up with this guy? Because the animations are incredible. Yeah, Will had his own channel, and he still does. It's called Fight Arts Fandom. He made these summary videos of the events after they happened. So he made a video of Diaz Condit, summarizing how all the cancellations, injuries, how it led to that. Really good animations, really good artist. So I thought if I could just focus on the voices and he could do the drawings, the art, then we could team up and make really elaborate videos. And so I messaged him after he posted one of his first videos.

I said, let me do the voices. And he said, well, show me some samples. So I posted a sample video. No animations. I'm not good at animation. So I posted a sample video, black and white, really boring. But the voices are funny. And that's the video that you tweeted.

I think JDS tweeted it. And then I thought, wow, maybe I can do this on my own. Yeah. So I made like 15 videos. And it got to a certain point after the Hennar Gracie video that I thought, I can't, there's no way I can post videos regularly and do what I want to do visually. So now we teamed up and we just have a bunch of great ideas and anything we want to happen. We can make it happen on the screen now. So you used to do those sort of sketch animations.

which were still very good. They were pretty good, but I mean, it took a long time, and I was sort of, I was tracing around real images. So they looked very real. Okay. But it was me in Photoshop tracing around real images in black and white. People call it like pencil sketches. So they're pretty good, but this is very authentic.

He does it all by hand, and he can do anything, really. Yeah, unbelievable. The Diaz stuff. I mean, we'll get into that. I'm just wondering, a lot of people ask me this, after your last appearance, what exactly do you do, by the way? Like, how are you able to come here on a Monday afternoon? Well, I used to work in finance for five years.

I didn't like it. I went back to school for a while in NYU studying information technology, and it was a computer science program. I didn't like that very much, but just after I started that program, maybe like a few months after, I started posting these videos, taking some web development classes part-time. but now I think I can really do something with this. If I get a video out every week,

this is your gig. I really think there's enough of a demand for this to do it. In no other sport, I think would this be possible? If I did like Kobe Bryant impressions or Derek Jeter, no one would watch. And you can't search on YouTube. You can't find much basketball impressions. But I think the following is strong enough for MMA

that the demand is big enough. that we could actually make a living doing this. Absolutely. It is a very passionate community. I have thrived off that and I am a product of that, and they definitely support you. So it's great. It's great that you're in the characters,

the personality is like you don't have a Quentin Jackson in any other sports. I saw you do some tennis ones and things like that, but I think MMA is the way to go. Yeah, I made a tennis video imitating like Federer, Jokovic. They have millions of Twitter followers, way more than any MMA fighter,

but it got like 5,000 viewers. Sure, impossible to sort of break through that wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so this kind of reminds you of like when Seinfeld was on the Tonight Show for the first time. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm not comparing us to the Tonight Show as far as I'm concerned, but if you want to, go ahead. But this is big. You in studio, we've never had a comedian, if you will.

Do you consider yourself a comedian? On Facebook, yeah, I'm listed. Oh, very nice. My fan page is a comedian. You have a fan page. I only have 100, something followers. What's the address of people want to go? district.com, Puierebeck, P-O-U-Y-A, R-E-B-E-E-K.

Why didn't you go with Pre-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-E-K? Because Priebe-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-A-V-V-A-V-R-A-V-R-A-R-B-A-R-R-A-R-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-R-E. I'm very happy that that you are here and hopefully we can have a good time like last time. All right. Here we go. We're going to start with my country mate from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. George St. Pierre, who, of course, came off that big win on November 17th, UFC 154. All right, here we go.

Okay. All right. George, considering the major knee surgery that you just went through, has this year been the most, has this been your most difficult fight camp? To tell you the truth, it was easy for me because I believe in pain. I don't believe in the pleasure. I make sure that my camp is always very painful. That's why I train in the freezing cold.

And that's why I have no sex during my camp, not even with my aunt. And I make sure that I don't have any wet dreams either. To tell you the truth, I haven't had sex since my first fight with maths. Sarah. So the last five years has been very, very painful. Oh, gosh. By the way, have any of these guys ever come up to you and been upset about these? That's the last ranch you, one of them. Yes, I've noticed you've become a little X-rated as of late. You've got to keep the attention. Yeah, you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So none of these guys upset, right?

None of them upset. I got to imagine the Diaz brothers. Oh, yeah. Well, that's a very good segue. Because speaking of the Diaz brothers, Nick is up next. All right, here we go. Nick Diaz. Nick, do you feel as though you are appreciated as a fighter? No, I'm not. No. Here, they have me fighting every two months, you know? Throwing me in a fight after fight after fight. Fighting for free, not getting paid.

What I want to get paid, any wish. Here, I got her sleep in the back sheet in my car. You know what I mean? Meanwhile, they're put him up against these guys throwing spinning back fish shit, kicking me in my lead. That's not a fair fight. You know what I mean? They got all these systems, organizations, rules, regulations,

points scoring shit. You know what I mean? I don't know how time to keep track of that. It's just, it's a long story, man. I'm just, you know, whatever, dude. I'm done with this interview. I'm done. Nick has developed into one of your best ones.

Thank you. Unbelievable. That was... People like my Nate more, I think. Oh, really? Yeah. Why? Do you want to freestyle some Nate for us?

He's not on the list here. You want me to do it at the very end? Yeah. Right now? Oh, at the very end. Okay, yeah, let's do it at the very end. I have some bonuses for you. I'm putting them on my list here.

Okay. Make sure you explain to Nate. Okay, well, here's Pat Barry. Because he wasn't on the show, but at least we get him in this form here. Pat H.D. Barry. All right, Pat. People seem to be underestimating Crow Cop as of late. But going into this fight, you obviously respected his skills.

Am I right? I've seen the things he's on the man, and it is scary. It's whack. I don't want to happen to me. My name is H.D. It means hype or die. And I've just hyping him up just so much in my head that I'm going to go in there and just die. Guarantee.

I'm not saying I'm going to let him submit me, but hopefully in two weeks we'll be singing songs together in his car in Croatia. Just two handsome men grappling together all day in the gym, singing songs together on the car at home, possibly even showering together. Nothing wrong with that. I never even knew that was his nickname. You see? I didn't know it stood for Hyper die. Oh, yeah, it's his Twitter handle. Yeah.

I never even put two and two together. People think it means high definition. Yeah. But I think he should change it to 1080P. Just to confuse people a little more. All right, there he is. Pat Barry, at least he joined us in some kind of form. Okay, this is one of my all-time favorites here, and it's a two-parter.

Okay. That's right. Vitor Belfort, the phenom who faces Michael Bispink. on January 19th in Brazil and I see you have a homemade. It's homemade. You actually homemade.

Wow. I painted it. I painted it. Oh my God. This guy's unbelievable. The Boni Asai hat, which I tried for the first time in Brazil recently.

You did? Fantastic. I was going to buy one. It's like you can't find it. You can't find them. But it's unbelievable. If you're ever in Brazil, I can't believe you made that on your own.

And it's very accurate. Boni asiaiae. I didn't want to cut out of the brengement so I didn't put the bony. Oh, you're very smart. All right, here we go. Vitor Belfort. What are 10 words that come to mind when you look back on your career so far, Vitor?

I can't do it in 10 words. I need 20. I've been hitting the head too many times, so I bought some cards to help me remember. Here we go. Pleasure. Buddy. Old dinosaur. Young lion. Tired goat. Hungry pig. blood

God Oops God Sorry God The new breed Old School Mentality Job

Jesus Journey High level Disneyland And sex Now we're going to try to use all the words and make a poem out of that. I started in the UFC as a young lion, feeling like a hungry pig when I win, like a tired goat when I lose, fighting hard like an old dinosaur in my last fight against

the new breed, competing every time at a high level with an old school mentality, enjoying the journey the whole time like I'm a kid in Disney. Disneyland. Buying a Christmas present for Jesus and giving a high-five to God. You didn't use buddy pleasure or sex in that poem. Bro, having sex after a fight is a true pleasure, buddy. That is just that. Vitor needs to see that someday.

We need to make that happen. Oh, my gosh. All right. I think I'm getting heart palpitations or something here. Geez. I'm crying. I have a cold. a lot of mucus coming out of me right now.

All right, let's move along. So we're going to hear from Daniel Korme for the second time on this show. We just heard him moments ago. D.C., they call him. Daniel, we all know your official nickname is D.C. But your real nickname among the fans is Black Fedor.

How do you feel about that? Well, you know, they love to call me Black Fador, and that's fine. I got to admit the resemblance is pretty uncanny. Sometimes I sit down, and I look at the footage of myself chopping wood outdoors, and I say, holy shit, you know what, they got a point.

I'm pudgy, I'm black, I'm a middleweight fighting as a heavyweight, I can't seem to get in the UFC. I am Black Fedor. It's pretty cool. I've got to be honest with you, Ariel. You just texted me while you were talking right there. Not about this, about something else. I never heard you do Daniel Corbier.

It's a brand new. Brand new. World debut. It's not my best, but. No, no. You heard it? Yeah, I heard it. I heard it. Another relatively new one is a very good friend of the show.

The Hennery. Oh, yeah. Yes. I actually was at a pro wrestling event, which I mentioned many times on this show. His fiancé was there. She's a wrestler as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here he is.

Hennar Gracie, back on the MMA hour. Henner, I don't know if you know this, but I'm a sensitive guy. A lot of people know this. I used to get, by the way, he wrote this, not me, but it's very accurate. I used to get teased a lot when I was a kid, and I'm wondering if you can do any sort of bullyproofing for me. Arrow, what you don't seem to understand is that you're still getting picked on by Alpha Meros like Rampage Jackson and Czech Congo. But you don't need to sit here and take it. If you sign it for Gracie Academy, Hito and I will give you step-by-step instructions and tutorials on how to deal with them using leverage, timing, patience, pressure,

balance, energy efficiency, and drinking lots of Red Bull. Act now, because Hiro and I, we're not going to keep these videos online forever. No. Imagine. All that secret knowledge available online. That would be crazy. But today, for 12 busy payments of 1995 a month, Ariel, you too could learn and become the most dangerous beta imaginable.

Die. I could sell anything. That was crazy. Great. That was an amazing one. I love Henry Garcia. All right. Here we go. We've got Alistair Overeem. The demolition Man, the Ream. He returns to action on February 2nd against

Bigfoot Silva. So Alistair, you're coming off a very long layoff, and it has been, I'm wondering if it's been tough adjusting to fight camp and sort of getting back into the swing of things. Particularly when it comes to eating, I have been having problems. Sometimes I eat food, as I fall asleep.

And then I forget to finish chewing. And I wake up and I have a mouth full of beef in my mouth. But I don't know. I think that it's a blessing in disguise because then I can wake up and seamlessly begin eating again. I eat breakfast when I wake up and I make sure it includes cow beef, horse beef, pig beef, fish beef, rat beef, any beef, really? anything and everything in the beef family and I make sure I follow my two breakfasts immediately after by lunch and dinner

because I don't know I don't like to break up my day with all these goddamn meals when you're big like me you have to stay eating constantly when you're scrawny like you it's hard to get big you cannot you cannot except for the nose

maybe you can get the nose a little bit bigger I have a big Oh, you don't know. It's okay. Oh, wow. I love how you say everything. That's just the... Everything. Everything. Everything. I'll never forget when he was on the show and he said, uh, goodbye 20, hello 30. Who is his birthday. Oh, God. All right. How are you doing there? You feeling good? I'm feeling great. We're at the halfway point. Sort of. Actually, we're past the halfway point. But, uh, we move along here. We welcome in the man who lost to Roy McDonald on December 8th. UFC on Fox 5. New York, Rick's favorite. He's favorite, yeah, that's right.

He's like my impression last time, right? He's still very distraught over the loss, the beatdown against Roy McDonald. But here we go. BJ, obviously a tough loss for you against Rory McDonald, but you said you had a great training camp. So what exactly went wrong for you out there against Rory? You know what, Ariel, I used to think the best way to train for a fight was to jump out of swimming pools, run on the ocean floor,

carrying a rock, play a lot of Street Fighter 2. I thought it was a winning formula. But Faraz and those guys up at the TriStar Gym, they figured me out. I can't stand those guys, man. But can I say something real quick? This man over here, everyone at home watching this from BJPen.com, follow this man right here at New York Rick. New York Wick, just want to say, you stood by me.

I want to thank you. I'm going to make it up to you. Mahalo. Wow. I think you just gave him like his greatest moment ever. That's the closest he'll ever get to talking to BJ. How was that New York, Rick? I'm fighting back tears. Emotional tears. Emotional tears. Yeah. Maybe some comic tears as well. All right. This one, when you put this one on the list, I've never heard you do this man. This is a new one too. This is a world exclusive. Yeah, debut, yeah. Wow. When he put Valid Ishmael on the list,

I was like, this really piqued my interest because he is one of the true great characters of our sport. I was worried that people didn't know him. No, no, no. If they watch a show, they know who he is. I've talked about him. He's great in Eric Silva's Corner. You know, he's got some other great guys.

A true legend of Brazilian MMA. If you don't know, Valid, you're missing out. So here we go. Valid Ishmael making his debut on the MMA hour right now. So, Valid, do you think Eric Silva will be able to come back from his tough loss to John Fitch? The people, the people see him fight, the people see him give the heart, the mind, the blood. He's going to shoot the blood in his opponent eye. You understand?

Everywhere you look, left, right, is covered in blood. His feel, he's still ready for this. He really did do well in MMA. MMA, he is the big sport in the world. Eric Silver showed this, you understand. It's all thanks to Dena White. Dena White, without him, we have nothing. Dena White for you, I would kill my son.

Faka'a Kavira, it mean would stick knife in his skull, as we say in Brazil. You understand? what, I will donate my heart for you. Rip it out with my hands covered in blood. It's a dream come true. For all the people, all the audience, there's no doubt about that. I can't breathe.

Oh, my God. That is your greatest one of all times. Holy moly. That's my mom's favorite one, too. Oh, my God. You do these for your mom? Yeah, she loves. She's learned about the EOC.

she would have never obviously watched but now she knows Wali can you believe it? Oh my God that one was unbelievable wow I think you should leave after that there is no way

oh my God we can't not do Anderson's Of course of course I'm not kicking you out Wow That was kudos my man You nailed You nailed that man

Wow when did you realize This one came late to you Your Wileid interviews Are my favorite Interviews because he's like giving you high-fives. He's smiling. He's, like, making this face. He is the most interesting guy. You know, I was wondering if you were going to go the Dana White route and you nailed it. That's

amazing because he always gives him props. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That one was unbelievable. I could listen to that. I'd rather interview you as him than the actual guy. All right, here we go. You mentioned Anderson Silva, the king himself. Oh, wow. I need to compose myself here. That actually really hurt me. I couldn't breathe there for a second. All right, Anderson Silva, here we go. Anderson, congrats on the victory. Another easy win for you. That's 16 in a row now.

What does this win, though, mean for you? I'm happy. I'm happy. All the peoples, the China, the Korea, America, English, Brazil. This is the big sport. This is the big sport. All the great athletes in UFC working hard, give respect, different countries of the world. The shell?

They show son? he's not working. He has the big problems. But UFC is the big company. UFC is the big sport, the big. I have the Burger King, the Coca-Cola, the Nike. It's the big money for me. I'm happy.

I'm the best. BJ Penn? He's not the best. I'm the best. Wow. That's bold. That's well. Anderson has to retire as the best.

The BJ... It's enough of that, right? Confluenza. I mean, he loves Vijay. Yeah. I thought it would be interesting to make him claim that he's the best. You nailed that. I actually think that you're Anderson got better.

Think so? Yeah. Yeah, I think it was too high at first. I think I made it a little bit. But you also nailed like that. That's all he says now. Those lines right there. He gives you like a geography lesson.

When you interview him, he just names five Brazilian fighters, like five different countries. And he says he's happy. And this is the big sport. The big. The big. The big. Go like this interview. He's like, the big.

Do you think he even understands. what I'm saying, because I appreciate him speaking in English, but I'd almost rather him just do it with a translator so I can get a real answer. I think that his English has improved, but I think that he has some canned answers. Sure. That he gives, not just you, even if, like, the official UFC interviews, like post-fight, he just says the same thing to everyone. It's perfect. If you watch his vlog, the Dana's vlog, Dana said, I don't think you're human or something like that. And Anderson said, this is my family. You know, so after you're not, out Bonner, Dana complements him, and then he gives a can dancer.

These are the sport. You know, it's like, Anderson, you didn't answer the question. Speaking of which, you've never done Dana. I did him in my John Jones nightmare. And people hated it. Why? Dana's a hard voice to do. Dana's voice has got deeper as he's put on a few pounds earlier.

Oh, wow. No, if you watch him in Tough One, his voice was high, more doable. If you watch him now, it's just as he's gotten older, his voice has gotten deeper. I can't do it. I just, maybe one day. That would be a good one. All right, so that was it from the list you gave me. But, you know, I'm a huge fan.

There's some others that I'd love to, because when you were on the show last time, some of your greatest moments were after the fact. Can I throw a couple at you? Sure. I might change what you request, but go ahead. No, no. That's not much of a request. I loved your Nick Ring.

Oh, I don't have anything Nick Ring ready. And if I did Nick Ring, it might sound too inappropriate. So how would I do, Nate Diaz? Nate D.S? All right, I'll take Nate D-Eas. Okay. It was a short one. You know, I don't got a problem with Ariel Hawaiian.

He doesn't know how to shake my hand or whatever. But it is what it is. Nothing huge. Whatever. I'm not going to dog the guy. It's just amazing. How do you memorize all this? Memorize the voice or the words?

No, like, because I know you have like a little, but you're doing this all off memory. Yeah, I just practiced. You just practice a lot? And the voice is just, I watch so much stuff that it's sunk in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love your Chris Wydenman. I think your Wydenman is very underrated. And, Anderson, if you're watching this, I love to fight you, but I got shoulder.

You can't really hear everything I said. I'm like mumbling and my surgery, but I love my wife, and I hope my home. It gets fixed soon. So I'll be ready to go. Oh, my God. The Wydeman is just great. I love your Wydeman. I also love, which I was a little surprised he was on the list

because I think this is a very hot topic right now. Your Roy McDonald, I think, is fantastic. All right. I got some right there. That's great. Okay. Well, I had a nightmare last night that Dana kidnapped me and George and forced us to fight.

And I won, of course, George is a good friend of mine. And so as I was punching his unconscious body, I just started crying. And I woke up in a cold sweat. Isn't he a fascinating guy? He is. I like how you call him the serial killer now. Oh, yeah.

Psycho, psycho, yeah. Canadian psycho. He told him to his face. Yeah, well, you know. Now, you know how I feel about the Honorable Sensei. Oh, yeah. He was one of your best. actually my wife and I often do the

when he talked about Machita Kuhu is not quite like mine he really got his mind down can he do that for me please and for her sure well we worked on because his wazza is similar to mine we worked on a lot of things

punches kicks knees ash the backi and some illegal moves that we just found out were actually legal Oh gosh. Randy Couture, I would fight him if we meet in the middle of the desert Where no one is watching See how it goes down

That's the other great thing about you You are such a huge fan of the sport So your imitations are very timely Timely I wrote one down here while you were doing it But I don't even know what I wrote Because I think I was in such a days from laughing so much I wrote, A-L-D-N-S-B-E-R-G-M.

What the heck is that? That's not even a word. How about I do Ariel Halani? Oh, wow, really? My last one. It's the mixed martial arts hour back in your life. Big show today we have. Today's show will be entirely devoted to Rick's Picks.

Wow. You don't want to miss it. Lots of prizes as well. Oh, yes, yes. New York, Rick got it. Wow. That's impressive, man. Skills.

Michael Lansberg. Okay. Okay, so Chale's Sean, so you're saying that he's still an entitled brat and that John Jones, his parents gave him an uncreative name. That was a great one. You reenacted it with the set and everything. Yeah, yeah. That was really impressive. Will did a great job.

Wow. He did a great job drawing that, and even the background, everything got it perfect. It was unbelievable. Yeah. People, the response was. as big on that as I thought, but you had to watch the interview to understand, because that was a year ago, over a year ago, you had to see the interview to understand that video. What about chale?

People don't like my chow. Really? I love your chale. You know what, Ariel, if you want to do, you want to chale sun an impression, all you've got to do is cover your nose, pretend like you have to sneeze. Hachoo. Kab boom. That's amazing.

By the way, do you have any other sort of while we're here, and I'm enjoying this, greatly. Just other people that you're very proud of. You're impersonate. Non-MMA, just for the hell of it. Not really. Really? You're all MMA.

Pretty much, yeah. I don't. Just people I know and a lot of M.A. impressions, you know, I can't do any, like, the presidents very well. They're famous people actors. Which is your favorite? My favorite impression? My favorite impression to do, I think my favorite video was my Henry

Gracie video. Oh, really? That's my favorite, in terms of the humor. Did he, he tweeted it, right? He tweeted it. He tweeted it, too. Really? He said, I think I remember him saying,

I don't know if this is a compliment or like an insult. 95% of me was against tweeting this. Yes. But the other 5% shoked out to 95%. So. That's great. So. It must be awesome when the guy you're imitating actually tweets it out, right?

That's the best. That's like the ultimate high. It is. Who's tweeted them out as far as the big names? Widman, JDS. Rashad Evans, Matt Sarah, Namathan, Tom Loller. That's awesome. A bunch of, a few other people about Bisping.

Retweeted something recently. Can you do Bispang? To me, he seems like a really easy one. I did in my first video. People didn't like it. You said you? You read the comments? I read the comments.

I read the comments. The most overwhelming comments in terms of thumbs up and everything are the Diaz brothers. people say make this into a weekly video this could be like a Saturday morning cartoon so it's like a Beavis and Butthead type thing right it's like Beavis and Butthead right maybe one day we'll have a Saturday morning Nick Diaz Nate Diaz fuel TV wow is that what you're shooting for that would be the that would be the ultimate thing Are you posting videos now once a like a certain day certain time you know it's been like every 10 days every two weeks so we're trying to do it stick to a schedule yeah once every week and we're going to to see how big we can take it.

You know, you've heard of like epic meal time. Yeah. So every, I think it's Tuesday at like seven or something, they have a new one out. To me, if you can tell people that every week at this time, I think it would be huge for you. I think so.

I think so. And I think that we just need to, now that I have him doing the animations, Will, I can focus on the voices. We can get them out a lot faster. Does Will have a Twitter? Yeah, it's a fight arts fandom. Okay.

And mine is Prevec. Yep. And the YouTube page? YouTube page is YouTube.com slash prebeck, P-R-E-B-E-E-K. We have a funny sequel video coming out on Hennar, Gracie, the sequel to his How to P video. We have a video on Diaz brothers going, looking for a house to buy together. Oh, really? That's amazing. And we're going to do a video, we're thinking about doing a video with you hosting a Legends Roundtable discussion. Oh, wow.

In place of Jay Glazer. Why? Why are you both? helping Glazer. Because I can imitate you, Glazer, I feel like, is an easy one to imitate. He has a deep voice, too. Yeah, he has a deep voice too.

And my voice is high. But it'd be funny to have you in there wearing one of your plaid shirts. Yes, thank you. One final thing I wanted to ask you, the Facebook page is Facebook.com slash Puyah Reevec. Puyahua. But you've sort of branded the YouTube page

Ultimate Fighting Cartoonship, which is brilliant. Thanks. I just, I want it like a, play on the actual company. It's more memorable than Pre-Bec. Had I known that this channel would grow to where it has, I wouldn't have named it just Pre-Bec. So I would have called it something more catchy.

You can't change it now? Can't change it now. I would lose all the subscribers. But yeah, Ultimate Fighting Cartoonship is the name of the channel. Can I get one more of our lead before we go? I just want to hear it again. Okay. Let me think of what to say. This man He learned the Portuguese

Because he know the M-M-A He's going to come back to Brazil Give me a high-five That is unbelievable, man Wow, that is an amazing one And I feel like he would really appreciate that as well He's a great guy He's a way

Yeah, he's on Twitter Walid, I'm going to follow him W-A-L-L-I-D-J-F-C I believe it is, Jungle Fight He is my favorite person you have interviewed Really? He's so animated He's just psycho

He's like an old school professional wrestling manager. Yeah. You know what I mean? You could see him either murdering you or giving you a hug. He's the widest spectrum of behavior. Well, continue the great work, my friend. You nailed it. This is a great last guest of 2012.

You're doing fantastic work. Once again, the YouTube is YouTube.com slash prevec. You're coming out with these. You're taking it up a notch with the animation. Will's doing a great job. You're doing a great job. Keep it going, man. I think this is great.

People are really digging it. Every time you do one, if I don't tweet it, I get like a thousand people saying, like, hey, have you seen the latest ones? We post them on the morning report. I know Sean, who does the morning report, is a big fan of yours, so keep it up. Great, thank you. Do you have me to do what I was going to say to Pat Barry? Oh, yes, exactly.

So, Pat, in case you're watching, I was going to tell you, I was going to come here and imitate you, but after seeing what you did to that dude, punching him, knocking him out, I don't want that happen to me. You know, I don't want you to shove in my head and then telling me to go hug people. Oh, whoa, wait a second. Hold that for a sec. What was that buzzkill? Oh. Oh, God. Okay. He can't hear us, though, right? Ariel, I'm going to...

Yeah, yeah. He's not. Okay. You want to do it? Sure. All right, let's do it. Here we go. We're going to get... We're going to get Pat Barry here, and then we will... Oh, a lot of people asking online while we wait for Pat. can you do Rogan?

No, I can't. Can you do Goldie? Not very well. I did Goldie in my Silver v. Jones video, and I was like, eh, it was just okay. I think what you're getting at now is a lot of requests, right? Now people want to see you doing their favorite guys. That's the tricky thing. The most popular request is, of course, Dana, Rogan, these popular guys.

Right. Some people ask for Hanato Laranha, and I don't follow them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, how about this? We haven't gone to him yet, right? Or have we? Okay. Can you hear us? Not yet, no. Okay. I'm going to take the break. I'm going to, because he can see, so I want to take him out of the studio and play this little thing on him, all right? Okay. Sure. I mean, I don't think you can see anything.

Yeah, he can. Remember, D.C. saw me talk. Trust me on this one. All right. Well, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to take pre-back out of the studio. I call you pre-back. Is that okay? Yeah. Great work, my friend. We'll hear from you in a couple of seconds. Take a quick. quick break here. In the meantime, check out this clip, Mark Hominick. You know Mark Homynic? The Machine. He retired last week. This is courtesy of my good friends over at UFC Tonight, Fuel TV. They interviewed Mark last Tuesday on the show. Leanne Tweeden and Kenny Florian talked to him about his retirement. We'll show a quick clip of that. Then we'll be back. Pat Barry joining us for a few minutes. That is the man, prebeck, Twitter.com slash preback, YouTube.com slash prebeck. Fantastic stuff. Thank you so much, him. We'll be back

on the MMA hour. Mark the Machine. Hominick's career spans over a decade. He's fought in front of sold out crowds and competed for UFC gold. And we're honored now to welcome him in to UFC tonight via Skype. Mark, we haven't heard from you since UFC 154, and you asked to come on to our set tonight. What's the reason? Well, I appreciate you guys having me tonight. I've had, over the last course, 11 years. I've truly got to live my passion and follow my dreams by competing professional mixed martial arts

and especially under the Zupah banner. But UFC 144, that's the last fight. I'll be in the octagon. as I'm, you know, retiring and looking to move on in my next phase of my career. Mark, what's the reason for you retiring? You know, there's a few. I think the next, like, as a family, you know, I have a young daughter. I have another daughter on the way.

And I think that's the next phase of my life. I think to put focus into that. And, you know, moving forward, I'm always going to be involved in this sport. This is my passion is what fuels me. But I think, you know, it's a commitment that I'm looking forward to make because I haven't been able to make the same kind of sacrifice. I believe that got me to the title of fight with Aldo, and I think it's more important for me to focus on that,

and again, moving on with my life as a part of mixed martial art from the outside, I guess. You know, you're talking a little bit about, you know, maybe not making those sacrifices, and of course you had to deal with the loss of your coach, your mentor, and your close friend, Sean Tompkins. You know, does that have anything to do with it,

perhaps not having him in your corner for, you know, the last year and a half or so? You know, losing Sean was a definite blow to all of us, to all of us at Team Tompkins, but to me it almost motivated me because I wanted to go out there and prove that we were going to carry on his name and his tradition and his legacy, you know, for what he did for us. You know, I think, you know, that's something that I'll always strive to do, but I think I'm going to have to do it from the outside of the Octagon.

You know, that's not, you know, a reason that I can point at. You know, I think it's just time for me to go out and focus on the next part of my life. You know, I think I've sacrificed a lot and I've achieved a lot of my goals. that I set out to do in mixed martial arts. And now I'm focused on my family and what the next phase brings me. You know, Mark, you were such an intelligent fighter, seen as such a technical fighter as well by myself and a lot of your fellow UFC colleagues. You talked a little bit about wanting to stay involved with the sport.

Does that mean coaching? What does that mean? You know what, right now I'm not going to rush into anything. All I know is, you know, mixed martial arts is my passion. This is what drives me every day. me every day. So there's no way, you know, just because I'm stepping away from the Octagon, then I'm going to step away from the sport. This is what fuels me every day. So, you know, I just got to find my role in what way, you know, whatever the path takes. But I'll always be involved with this sport. And, you know, UFC's been one big family and it's definitely,

you know, definitely would like this day. All right, Mark. Now I've got to ask you one of the questions that I have to deal with all the time as a retired guy. Any chance at a comeback? Is this kind of just a little layoff, or is this a true retirement here? You know, with another daughter on the way, and I know the sacrifices that both having a family and the sacrifices I want to make to ensure that we're successful there, you know, I think this is what I have to do. I've been one of those fighters, I think, inside the cage

that I've laid it on the line every time I've stepped in there, and it's kind of been an all-or-nothing thing, and I think that's the kind of decision. The decision has to be approached like that as well. All right, Mark, before we let you go, what was your favorite memory inside the Octagon? You know, I think fighting against Joseo Alto, you know, even though it was a loss, that fight really put me on the map. To me, it almost felt like a 15-year overnight success. You know, you compete for so many years, almost in obscurity, you know, and no one gets to watch.

And all of a sudden, I was fighting in front of 55,000 people in front of my home province for the world title. And it really put on a performance that, you know, really put me on the map as far as the mixed martial arts world. So that's something I'll always cherish. And I really got to show who I was as a man, as a fighter, and as a person in that ring that night. All right. Thanks, Mark. Any final thoughts? You know, I just like to say appreciation all for the support I've received over the years from all my friends, my family, my coaches like Sean Tompkins,

the UFC, Dana and Tom Wright from USC Canada. And I really do appreciate the support that the fans has always received. And, you know, it's going to be ongoing with this career in one way another. All right. Thanks a lot, Mark. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. UFC Tonight, presented by Dodge Dark, Tuesdays 10. All right, back on the MMA hour. Thank you so much to Prebeck. Still catching my breath here. That was unbelievable stuff.

It's nice to get a good cry out, a good laughter cry out from time to time. That was courtesy of our good friends over at UFC Tonight, Fuel TV. I want to remind you there are three really exciting episodes of UFC Tonight coming up tomorrow. is part one of UFC tonight's year-end countdown of the top 50 UFC moments of 2012. 50 moments, they're counting them down. This is 50 to 26. Then next week, December 25th, that's Christmas, part two of UFC tonight's year and countdown of the top 50 moments. That'll be moments 25 to 1.

Wonder what number one will be. And then Tuesday, January 1st, New Year's Day, UFC Tonight looks back at the year that was in the octagon. Kenny Floring gives his... awards for 2012 Fighter of the Year, fight of the year, knockout of the year, and much more, and Kenny and I go head to head

with our Fighter of the Year as far as Fighter versus Writer debate as far as Crystal Ball predictions for 2013 and some of the big moments coming up next year. So that's what's to come on UFC tonight.

The January 8th show, by the way, is going to be a full hour top 50 moment countdowns. But the first 25 moments will premiere tomorrow, 10 p.m. Eastern on Fuel TV, then 25 to 1 on the following Tuesday. And then it's a sort of a year-end look back, Kenny, I, and the rest of the team. Hope you could check that out on Fuel TV. Thanks for letting us play the clip. So do we have our next guest? We do.

All right. Let us go to the Skype machine. And welcome back. And it's interesting because last week, this. This man asked to be on the show as many times as possible. We bring him back. We don't usually bring back a back-to-back guest. And then he goes MIA on us.

He doesn't show up. Pat Barry, what do you have to say for yourself, my friend? I'm sorry, and I'm going to do the next 75 shows for free, no matter what's going on. I'm sorry. That's my fault. That's my fault. My fault. It wasn't my fault.

The guy, you know, knocks out someone on national TV and he forgets about the little people here in New York. Oh, man, didn't forget. It's Rose's fault, man. Oh. He's right here right now. I was going to make sure. What's your excuse? You were sleeping, though, right?

I was, I finally was asleep. I went to sleep today. That's been since the fight. Really? Yeah. I mean, I tell everybody I have trouble sleeping during the week. And I've, you know, so I'm usually after a fight. That's why I don't do after fight parties.

After a fight, I go back to my room order slice of pizza. A few people come by. We might order six pizzas. You know, like some cousins or some, like, close friends might come in the room, and we just sit around and we just laugh and talk all night. So the pizzas get there, I might eat one slice. And I end up sitting there until it's time to go to the airport the next day. Then I don't sleep on planes.

So then I fly home. And after a fight like that, you know, I mean, I flew home, get home, see, you know, see Rose. And then we're all excited. We watch the fight a few times in slow motion. 6,000 times in slow motion. And then, you know, we go on a date and then come back and settle down and then, you know, we get ready for bed. And we go to sleep the same way every night where she falls asleep on the sofa while I, you know, sit there and she has her feet on my lap. And then I get us in bed and I lay there for a minute.

And then I get back up and I come back in the front to watch it again in slow motion a thousand times. And then I was up until. So that was all day Saturday, stayed up all day yesterday, but I stayed up until like maybe 7, 8, 8, 30 this morning, and then finally was able to sleep for a little bit. But, like, she sat up just and I was like, oh, it's 2 o'clock. What are you doing? So that's my fault.

No problem. I didn't even know where I was. I was up. I sat up thinking I'm going to miss my flight to get back to Minneapolis. Well, now I feel bad that I woke you up. Oh, man, no, it's my fault. I should have been on it. I said you stayed up and watched it a few more times and watched it a few more times.

I've been there. That's fine. We won't be very long here, but before we continue with the interview, we actually have a fan of yours that wanted to just offer some congratulations and speak to you. Do you mind taking the phone call? Ready. Is he there? Yes, I'm here. Okay.

Yeah, we hear you. What's on your mind? Oh, Pat, while you were sleeping, I wanted to do an imitation of you, but you were a no-show. But now that you're here, can I do a quick? imitation of you? You were ready for it. Let's see it. I'll hear it.

Okay. Okay, here we go. Hey, Pat, I wasn't going to be to imitate you, but after saying what you did to that dude, punching and kicking him, knock him out, you know, telling people to go, you know, hug people, and then people saving your head, I don't want to talk to you. You're scary, and that's whack. They say you're too small, but you're not small. You're just short, you're stocky, and you're lovable.

So congratulations. Hey, yo. Hey, man. It's not even close, man. They tell you you too short, and that's whack. Yeah, man. That's, hey, that's pretty spot on.

I need to get like a... It's the best I could do. Hey, congratulations, Pat. You can't. Record yourself on video. Hey, Pat, this guy, this guy's a legend. This guy was just in studio. You got to check him out. He's done you on.

He's got over a million views on YouTube. YouTube.com slash prebeck, P-R-E-B-E-E-K, the best fighter impersonations. I was just here crying because he was doing a whole set for us. He is on YouTube, my friend. You've got to check him out. Yeah, Pat, I've got my video called Pat Berry gives up pizza. It's called Pat Berry gives up pizza.

You're going to love it. It's amazing. Google it. All right. All right. Pat Barry gives up pizza. Look at me. I'm all behind the time.

I'm like, hey, man. Make a video, okay, buddy. Make a video. And upload it to this thing. called YouTube. I didn't send it to me. Oh, man, look at that. And you a billion views on, all right, no problem, I'm on it. Yeah, he'll tell you about

YouTube videos. Padbury gives up pizza. That's what, that's a nightmare sketch. All right, Ariel. Puyah, great job, my man. Yep, great job. Congratulations. Hey, man, thank you, man. All right, Pat, I want to talk to you about a few things about the fight.

First, I have to mention we played it earlier, and I said this to you via text message. I just want get a sense for your mindset going into the fight. Your post-fight interview was very touching, and as I mentioned on Twitter as it happened, really summed up how I was feeling. I just wanted to hug my son and my wife and my family after the horrific, horrific tragedy in Connecticut. And I really think you summed it up perfectly. And when you said what got me the most was when you said, Joe, I just want to go home. I just want to go home and hug Rose for 15 hours.

How are you able to focus on the task at hand? And not. get too down and depressed and things like that because you had a big fight? Man, that was that was a real tough one because there's there's like some goods and bads to it. I mean, the bad would be the bad would be

just the thought of I really just wanted to go home. I mean, ever said, when I got the, I got the, when I got the, like the first text about it going on and then I looked up what happened. I remember I started getting messages from people like somebody tweeted

the UFC should cancel the event in the light of the incident. And when I read that, I went, yeah, that would be cool. I mean, not that they should or shouldn't. I mean, who knows. But when I read that, I was thinking, that'd be a great idea because then it wouldn't be my fault because I'm leaving right now.

Like Friday, oh, great, hopefully they cancel it because that'll make sense as to why I'm in an airport flying home right now. I wanted to just get home, man. I didn't want to be there. But I guess the good side of it would be, that it took my mind off of the fight. So I didn't have, like, the, get an ulcer, anxiety, like,

stress towards the fight all day because I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't have it on my mind. And why didn't Rose come with you? Still in school. Okay. Still training. Still in school. Still training for her, for her fight, so she was still staying active.

And in all actuality, we just, we haven't done it. I figured maybe this, this fight probably wasn't the one we should run an experiment on. Yeah, probably a good call. What was that a brace like when you saw her? Man, it was outrated. Man, she... I get to the airport.

She comes to picking up from the airport. You know when you, you know, like, we don't do it. We don't do the whole park and you sit here in the terminal and wait because so she pulls up to baggage claim, right? Right. And, you know, there's always the security, the police officers are saying, you move your car, you only pick up and leave and it's got to be quick. She gets out of the Jeep.

She gets out of the Jeep, and she runs over. She's got this biggest smile ever. And I get off the plane in a T-shirt and some jogging pants, and that's it. And it's like 12 degrees outside. She jumps, man. I catch her. I only have one leg at the moment because of this other one is not feeling too nice. No, my foot at least.

I catch her. The hug was outrageous, man. And a security. Hey, you got to move that car. and I put it down out of the way and I was like, oh, I'm sorry with that. Look over and he, like the guy looks and goes,

hey man, you could fight, man. You've got to move that car. You've got to move that car. That's awesome. It was great, man. We got in. We jumped in. She drove us.

We went on the date. Had dinner, came back. And I don't know if you saw the video we posted last night, but that's generally how my fight's go. My fight ends. I've been going for a week. I come right in.

And now she's got her fight. So now it's over. I'm done. I'm finished with it. I'm not the star anymore. I came home and I scrubbed her feet last night. Nice. That is a good boy.

A very good boyfriend. Now, speaking of feed, how is your foot? You posted a picture of it. It's quite swollen one of them, right? Yeah, it's pretty swollen, but I would say that this one is the least swollen of all. Out of all the fights that come back out, every time I throw a kick. I don't think my body is really designed to hit this hard because I'll throw one. I mean, I threw two low kicks.

Two low kicks with my right foot. My whole, like, from my knee on down to my toes, are just swollen. Is it broken? No, no, no, no, no, no, no breaks. Okay. You walk away from the fight. Fantastic.

You ended him early. Great knockout. Was that an A-plus performance, or was there anything that you weren't happy about? There was a, I got taken down. Yeah. Of course, that's going to be, and I don't want that. That's going to be a negative. So I did, I did hit the ground.

So that was a we get some points deducted for that one But other than that, I was able I stayed I stayed calm on the ground I defended Four submissions I defended four submissions and I had two of them myself I know I thought I was like wouldn't it be funny if he finally gets a submission after shaving his head After the head is cut I don't know if anyone noticed but we hit the fence

Yeah I was gonna I was gonna roll for a guillotine I had it And this is People are going to stop telling me to stop doing this, man. He jumps in, he rolls, he brushes in. I grab his neck. I lock my hands together and then clear his day. The clearest sound ever, I hear, let that go from Trevor Whitman.

Wow. And that's why if you see in the video, boom, we hit the cage. My arms lock up. The view is coming from this view, right? Okay. So we hit the cage, I lock up, and it clear is day. Let that go. I just turned my head to the side, like, okay.

So I ended up reaching under his arm. And I was in a really, really close position for Camorra on his right-on. Why do you think? As I reached for it, as I'm reaching for it. My left hand is there on his wrist. Right arm is reaching over. No, I was like, now, right. Why do he say that?

Because he didn't want you to get tired? No, no, no, no. It's early in the fight, Shane was still fresh. Let's not experiment with going through back to a gear. You know, and if I would have fallen, if I would have jumped to my back to a guillotine, and let's say he did pop out, then I was just stuck there in between Shane and the cage. So that wouldn't have been any good. I'd say your only negative moment of the fight.

And also because the way that the fight ended is a lot better than the way it would have ended if I would have submitted. Sure. It was pretty awesome. It was very HD-esque. Now, the only negative moment, in my opinion of the fight, was after the fight. You were gray. You were celebrating. This poor man trying to do his job.

And you're like, you push him. I mean, really, I thought you were respectful. I didn't push him. I yank my arm away. You were like, don't even. What was going on? He was trying to help you. What if it was check hango?

Get away. Like, I didn't, I didn't, I had to, who do? I didn't know who was trying to grab me. The arm grabbed and you can't see. That's all you sees the fate that, like, the arm going. I don't know. But you didn't see the face do this. No.

I didn't know. I didn't know what would. I didn't, that was, I'm so. apparently I turned into a gangster after I went a fight because I don't, what was all that? I know. If we had a microphone

implanted in one of my teeth, oh no, they would let me go after that. I would have been released. Who was that guy? What was he trying to do? Just the ring, the ring doctor gets in the ring,

and they get in the Akkaan, they check the fighters. The winner or I end, the guy who wins, like there's two that come in. The guy who wins, the guy who doesn't, Like, they both get checked out.

So he was just coming to see if I was okay. Now, the camera didn't catch me, walk up to the guy and say, sir, I am sorry. My apologies. I just, I didn't know. That wasn't me. And I gave him a big, big sweaty hug. He was like, oh, there's no problem. I understand.

And he said, what he tells me is my fault. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have walked up behind you and just grabbed your arm. Right. That's all I felt was just a hand grab my, no, police officer. Like, that's all I felt. And I was, I was in mid, mid-Marching moment. And now, contrary to everyone's belief, once I yanked my arm away, I didn't intentionally go walk over to Herb Dean Jr. Camel. He just put himself on hold.

Oh, he's back? I'm sorry. I'm here. I'm here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't see you. Yeah. Okay, here you are.

Nice of you. Yeah, sorry. My phone just went. I just got a phone call from Los. Somebody from Las Vegas is calling me. Uh-oh. But I, yeah, I didn't intentionally make my way over to the, the, you know, the phone call. to the guy who was, you know, grabbing the camera wires and chest bump him.

I didn't know. He just was in the way. Well, you did go on Twitter Instagram and you apologized to the doctor, right? You showed a screen grab, so that was very kind of you, and I'm sure he appreciates that. Now, I want to know, I was sort of thinking, what's next for Pat Barry? I was wondering, you know, I mentioned Roy Nelson, who looked very good in the fight. Roy didn't seem all that into the fight when I brought it up to him earlier on in the show. Do you have an idea as to who you'd like to fight next?

Um, you know what, honestly, man, I don't, like I said, I've said before in the most unmascho way ever, as long as I'm getting a phone call, it doesn't, everybody's, everybody's a bad matchup for me. I mean, it's just every, if I'm fighting, it's, that's, oh, it's bad. Like, so it just doesn't, anyone, anyway, it doesn't, if it's the world's greatest wrestler, if it's a jiu-jitsu superstar, like plaid belt, if it's a striker, a boxer, I mean, as long as it's a human, I guess. I'll be up for the task. I'm guessing you don't want to take seven months off again. No, I would like to, no, not necessarily.

Nothing's broken, as far as I know. Nothing's broken. Now I take it, I would like to take the next three weeks off because, like I said, when I first started, today is, we got the last three weeks of Rose's preparation for her fight. And after that, I'll be up for anything. I read an incredible stat. You know your last five fights, either you or your opponent.

or both of you won a fight night award. Did you know that? Hey, you're welcome everybody out there who got an award. You're welcome. That's what I do. I said, when I first got into it, that was one of my selling points to Joe Silva, Joe Silva and Dan White.

I said, hey, every time I step through that door, I'm the instant number one candidate for knockout of the night. And if I happen to get fight of the night, that's because I was doing something wrong. And one day you will get submission of the night. I feel it. I feel it's coming. You know what?

I think that they'll give me submission of the night, even if I go for one and don't do it. Even if it's the worst submission ever, I still think if you do it. By the way, submission of the century. Speaking of Dana, I saw you posted also on Instagram. You took a picture at the press conference where he had your figure,

and he's in the background. He looks kind of pissed, right? I didn't really notice it until I snapped a picture. Like, all I was doing was I was just, I wanted to, I was going to make his head sit on top my finger. And then, and right as I go to his snap, he, like, you get this like this little sly look. I was like, oh, man, you know what, maybe I shouldn't be doing this right now. Yeah. But it was all right. I'm sure he didn't mind. I did it anyway. Pat, I want to congratulate you. We got a run. I appreciate you waking up for us. I didn't want, you know, we have a rule on

this show. If someone doesn't make his appearance, we ban them for X amount of time. I didn't want to ban you. Wait until you see the text message. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Should I read it on the air? Sure.

All right, let's see here. Pat Barry. Brough. Is he still there? Yeah, okay. Bro. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here.

Las Vegas is calling me. Okay, well, we'll let you go in a second. Brat, I'm the effing worst of all time. I swear I'll make it up to, man. I'll do the next 27 shows for free, and I'll do something ridiculous and crazy that'll get us presidential exposure. very nice I've been on the Tonight Show once

So that's a You know what I almost wish that you didn't come on the show now Because I wanted to get that Oh Trust me I'm going to come up with our controversy out of this world Pat

Thank you so much I know you have to run Really appreciate it Good luck to Rose In a couple weeks You got a shout out on the UFC broadcast That's awesome And we're looking forward to her fight as well

Hey thank you man And thanks for giving me the chance To get my words out there again And once again Now I've got giving my apology to the ring doctor, but Herb Dean Jr., guy with the dreads who was collecting the wire, sorry about that monster chest bump that I kind of gave you a little bit.

Awesome stuff. Thank you so much, Pat. Hi, man. All right, there he is. HD himself joining us once again. Glad we were able to get him on the show on this, our final episode of the year. Okay, lots to get to here in the next few minutes before we say goodbye. Let us take some phone calls. then we're going to go to Ricks Picks,

then we're going to take your questions, comments, and then we're going to say goodbye. We may go a little overtime here, but let's be honest, our last show for a few weeks. We're back January the 7th, so you can split this up and enjoy it over the holidays.

All right, first up, let us go to our old friend. Wow, look at this. Our old friend showing up, out of the blue, Johnny from Long Island. Johnny? Yes, sir. Where have you been, my friend?

Oh, I've been working nonstop. My brother getting my life together, and I took my one day off, and I said, let's get that one call in. I talked to Eric. He hooked it up, and I'm back, baby. Wow, welcome back. Your voice seems to have changed as well. Yeah, I got a little deeper. I've been doing a lot of cement work.

I thought you just hit puberty. I thought you just hit puberty. Trying to look like a Dia's brother. I like it, man. So what's on your mind? I just wanted to celebrate with you. Ever since episode 98, I've been calling, trying to sneak in. these little matchups here and there, trying to get Nate Diaz to a title shot.

That didn't work out too well for us, but he got there. And everybody now sees who Nate is, and he's going to be a big star. And Nick Diaz versus GSP in March, and I can't wait. I'm dying to go to Canada. I want to be standing right next to you in the Gracie hoodie getting cursed out by an entire audience. You're going to go? Is that the plan you're going to go? I'm dying.

Yeah. If you ever wanted to interview me, like a New York bar, I'd rather interview me with 100 Canadians cursing me out right behind me. But here's the thing. I mentioned this earlier in the show. A lot of people feel less excited. That's the impression I'm getting. I see the betting line for the fight.

After what Ben Henderson did to Nate Diaz, they're like, we kind of feel like the same thing's going to happen to Nick. Tell us why the same thing won't happen. Well, if everybody keeps claiming that Nick doesn't have knockout power and all this, you could ask Paul Deh. You can ask Scott Smith. You can ask Marcus Zeromskis. If Nick hits you in the right spot, you're going down.

And if you look at the last two fights that Carlos Condon had, he kicked two people in the head, and one went down. George went down. Nick wiped his nose and started walking forward. Everybody wants to claim that the Diaz brothers are the same. Nate's a little behind on Nick's skills. but I mean if you wanted the best first of the best you got it right here everybody who's lost the title shot

who's got a title shot it's in every other weight division but now everybody's you know giving these title shots to the guys who have one loss but deserve the fight which I think is better because you're going to have more sales and you're going to have more buzz Johnny Hendricks knocked out a guy who was knocked out two fights ago and he lost the cost check I was there in Jersey

So, I mean, everybody thinks Kosteck beat Johnny Hendricks. If you want to call someone out, call out Josh Kosteck, but he didn't do that. So you're going on the record right here right now. You say March 16th, we will have a new Walthaway champion. Oh, no doubt. Wow. No doubt, my mind. I'm putting my chips in for Nick V.

Actually, I should say March 17th, because by the time they actually fight, it'll probably be past midnight, right? Yeah. Yeah. What about those top? I got my birthday coming up in two days. Maybe you could throw me a bone here. Well, I don't know, Johnny.

I mean, you kind of left us hanging all year long. This is like the first time. When's the last time you called this show? It's been a minute. It has been. Have you called in in 2012? I have, but not in the last couple of D.S. I have been working.

I have horrific hours. Well, what are your hours? It's 6 in the morning to 4.30, and I usually work a little later. that when my boss needs me. Yeah. Well, you're doing good work. We're going to save the Tops cards.

Not because I don't love you. I've hooked you up in the past, right? I gave you like a box set, didn't I? Yeah, yeah. And I actually went and bought the 2012 edition this year. Oh, very nice. We gave those out, but I'm going to give this to one of the Twitter questions because a lot of people have sent in questions this week, so I want to stay true to my word.

All right, my brother. It's no problem. Great to hear for you, man. Don't forget about us. We love your insight. I will. I'll catch up with you. Maybe we'll do something for this Canada card.

All right. Maybe I'll get to meet you. All right. I would like to meet you. All right, all the best. There he is. Johnny from Long Island. There he is.

Representing the 209 with a different voice. He's grown up in front of our eyes. All right, let's take one other phone call. Let's go to Johnny in Massachusetts. Johnny and Mass. Are you there? Happy holidays, area. How are you doing?

I'm doing great, man. How are you? Good. Yeah, I have a quick question. concerning, what do you think? The USC not hiring Tito Ortiz to run promotion, and now Tito's on the opposite end, managing Chris Seaborg, and causing some issues. Well, I expected them not to hire him.

I mean, they haven't had the best relationship with Tito. And quite frankly, I think Tito is better served being on the other side of the fence. Tito has always fancied himself a businessman. He's always, you know, enjoyed that aspect of the game, and that's been a big part of who he is. I think it's kind of interesting and cool that he is a manager now and he's got, you know, someone like Chris Cyborg, and I'm sure he's going to get some other big names. So I think this is a better role for him and the UFC. Look, he's looking out in what he believes is the best interest of his client and more power to them.

I mean, obviously the UFC's not going to love that. They don't love all managers. I'm sure there's a point in time when they hate every manager or they get into a disagreement with them. So it's going to happen. and of course it's publicized because it's Tito, Dana mentioned it, but I think this is good for both of them. Right. I feel that Tito is, you know, he's very passionate.

He's always been passionate. He's always been very much about himself. I agree with that. But I think if you work for the UFC, because I think U.S.C. needs more help in promotion. And I think Tito's very good at promoting, and I think he would have served better being on the U.S.C. side Because he wouldn't have been thinking about himself,

and that sense he would be working for the U.S.C. thinking about the company. Yeah, but the UFC only really needs one promoter. I mean, yeah, they're doing these international shows where you'll have like Marshall's Elasnik acting as Dana or Tom Wright in Canada, et cetera. But they like everything to, you know, funnel through Dana. And I'm not sure if they would mesh very well together.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a very good point. Very good point there. My other question is, I was listening to Johnny talk about Nick Diaz. I actually was part of, you know, part of the fans what the fans think that I think the fight's going to go very similar to Carlos Conduit versus Nick Diaz as well as Benson Henderson versus Nate. I think it's going to be a similar type because I think GSP's too versed and submission

too quick. And, you know, just the interview, GSP said the other day, you know, with Sarah, he got clipped and, you know, right away he tried to attack back when he wasn't composed yet. And with the Carl's fight when he got hit, he realized he wasn't in. he said, just recover, just recover. And I think that talking about fight experience, I think he's going to be a much smarter fight. And I also think when Carlos kicked Nick,

it was not a heavy kick compared to the one he landed on GSP. I love the fact that you called him Carlos Conduit, like Nick Diaz. You must be a fan. Yeah, I didn't realize I did that. Yeah, I am a fan. It's a subconscious Diaz fan thing to do. No, I'm interested. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to hate on the fight. I love the fight. I mean, this is the fight we've wanted to see for a while. This is the fight that we've been talking about. Let's just get it over with see it happen. And it works out perfectly, by the way, for the UFC. They had this date set. To have, you know, GSP come back after his performance and then to have him face Diaz, I thought that they could maybe do it at the Olympic Stadium, which is the big, you know, ex-home of the Montreal Expos. It fits 50, 60,000 people. I think it's a huge fight, especially with that undercard. And I just want to mention.

and to all the people who complain about GSP, oh, he always gets to fight in Canada. I mean, that is so silly. I mean, I'm so sick of that. First off, that's where he is a biggest draw. That's where he can draw the most money. That's where he is most popular. That's where it makes most financial sense

for the UFC to hold GSP fights. Forget about the home field advantage of all this nonsense. It's a cage. Yes, he's the favorite, but it would be stupid for the UFC to have him fight elsewhere. Yes, he's a big star, but why would you have him fight in, I don't know, Atlanta,

when he's a massive star in Canada. It makes no sense. Why would you have him fight in, you know, Seattle when he's a massive star in Canada? He's a huge star that is beloved by his entire country. Of course you're going to try to maximize that. No different than what we see in boxing, so people need to drop that. Anyway, my man, thank you very much. What?

Yeah, I absolutely agree. I was just going to say, I absolutely agree with that because just having a fight, it's a bigger platform, and it puts a lot of people. question on him that he's got to perform because he's on a bigger stage for himself. It's, I mean, it just makes it a bigger deal, a bigger spectacle. Everything about it makes sense. That's why, you know, Ricky Hatton, 95% of his career was fought in England. A lot of the British boxers, you know, Bisping fought a lot in England before now he's become,

you know, it just makes more sense. And the UFC's making the right call. And it's not because I'm from Montreal. I could care less if GSP fights there. I mean, it means nothing to me. it makes sense for the UFC that's why it happens and this is a way

there's only two places where this fight could be huge Montreal sure you could do it in Vegas or and I'm saying okay let's say Canada or maybe Stockton

you're not going to hold the fight in Stockton CBS tried to do that with Elite XC it wasn't a huge gate and it kind of made no sense because it was on free television you got to do it there Diaz going in the enemy territory

it's massive thank you very much for the call Johnny appreciate it all right thanks area All right. There he is Johnny from Massachusetts. Prior to that, we had Johnny from Long Island. All right. Is Rick available or is you on the phone? Yeah, we got one more call.

Okay, let's take one more. Let's take one more. Another Johnny? Get out of here. It's not Johnny. It's not Johnny. It's not Johnny. It's not Johnny. It's Jonas from Sweden. Wow. Sweden. Is Sweden in the house? Jonas, are you there? Yeah, well, what's up? Hey, how are you? Which part of Sweden are you calling from?

Stockholm And what time is it Over there right now It's around 10 In the evening Wow Well I appreciate it What's on your mind

No I just Basically wanted to To give your calls And say You know I really Appreciate The show Oh

Yeah it's an awesome show And I also think that Sean McCorkel takes too much flack. I think it's great. Well, you know, Sean McCorkle is trying to campaign to get back on the show, but I must admit, his last appearance I thought, was kind of lackluster.

You enjoyed it? Yeah, I enjoyed it, yeah. I mean, he looked a little off, but, no, I think it's brilliant in his way. Wow, people in Sweden actually care about Big Sexy. So what you're saying is come 2013, we should give them another chance. The McCorkle Minute. Yeah, definitely. All right.

Yeah, definitely. Which do you like better, McCorical Minute or Mitreone Minute? I actually like McCorkel better. All right. Fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, Mitchell is great, too. Yeah, they're both great. I like them together.

Those were some good ones. Now, are you a big Alexander Gustafson fan? Well, I guess I have to be, right? Yeah, you do have to be. Were you at the event in April when he beat Tiago Silva? No, I wasn't there. But I was really glad that he did, and also that he beat Shoggan, even though Shoggan is an old favorite.

Yeah. That's huge for him. I'm curious to see what they do next with him. Anything else on your mind? Well, just a thought. You know, I think that one of the reasons why wrestlers find so much success might be the training regime, you know, in that age, because at least in Sweden, we don't have anything that even starts to compare with the wrestling programs that the

American guys have. They are very advanced in that, yeah. You know, and all the time put into, like, core strength and stuff. No, absolutely. I think... Look at the programs that they have in high school and college. you look at the European fighters, they don't have that in their back pocket like the Americans do. They're progressing, but they're not there quite yet.

No, not at all. And I mean, like emphasis on sports is on a whole totally different level in the U.S. compared to Sweden. We don't really have sports programs at all. But, and I mean, like things like college scholarships and stuff, that doesn't exist in Sweden. So you don't have those big really organized and scientific approach to training in that age. So I think that plays a huge difference. By the way, how big of a deal is it when Gustafsson fights, like local news and things like that? Is he a big star?

Well, MMA isn't that big in Sweden. I mean, it isn't that mainstream. Okay. So I think that all of the people that follow MMA realize when goes to some fights. But it's not like headlines in like an ordinary newspaper. Okay. All right. I understand.

Well, we appreciate the call very much. Thank you so much for the support and the nice words. Hopefully you'll call in very soon. Yeah, cool. Thank you. All right, there is. Jonas from Stockholm, Sweden, joining us on the MMA. All right.

Let us move along. UFC 155 coming up in less than two weeks. As I mentioned, this is our last show of 2012. We return on January 7th. So, let's get to Rick's picks. Ricks, do it. Before we get to Ricks, how did you do this weekend? On the official fights that I picked, with the line, I went 2 and 0.

Which were those? That was, I picked Pearson over Sutteropoulos. Yep. And I also picked Lombard over Paul Horace. And the others? And the others, I split. I whiffed on Mitrione. I picked Mitrione, which was a huge mistake.

Nelson took him out real quick. And I picked Del Rosario over Barry. Should have brought that up in the Barry interview. Yeah, I'm kind of glad you didn't. Because I actually, I really like Pat Barry. He's one of my favorites. But I just thought that it was going to look like round one for. for three rounds, but Barry put the leather on him, and I was happy I did.

I mean, I'm a fan. So, and the other ones that you got right on that one? The ones I got right where our boy Dustin Porriere. Oh, yeah. You're double-ganger. I thought that Brookings could be a threat, which he looked to be in the first round, but I just thought that Porriere's experience would be the difference, and I had to go with Porier.

He looked fantastic. Yeah. I mean, does he ever have a bad fight? It's just like... No. he's really coming and I think the ATT move has been great for him he looked amazing he looked focused he I mean very sharp on his feet really impressive submission get the Darst choke kind of poetic justice for him very nice yeah I was really happy with that one

and what was the other one I picked I'm trying to think well Varner Gallard never happened did you pick any undercard fights oh Colton Smith right I picked Colton yeah for Ricci that was a dominant win I I saw that coming. I mean, that style is just not made for Mike Ritchie to succeed. I said that he was the most impressive in the house by far, but just Colton's style was going to be the difference in that one. I'm curious to see how Mike does that 155, but you're right.

The wrestling, I mean, he smothered him. I think there are 21 fights this weekend. Overall, I mean, what, like 95% of them were great. There weren't that many duds. This was a really great sort of under-the-radar weekend for the UFC. I don't even think it was so much under-the-radar, honestly. I think that a lot of the fans were really, like, they got wrapped up in this weekend of fights,

and they got really excited about it. I thought that it was great. Did you like it as a fan? Did you like it or was it overkill come Saturday? I like it, but I wouldn't want it every weekend. Yeah, it's a lot. But for one, you know, weekend a year, it was incredible. This was their second time doing it this year.

They did it in June with FX4 and 147. And I agree. Maybe twice a year. It's a kind of cool weekend. Yep. All right, let's move along, 155, December 29. MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Junior Dos Santos versus Kane Velasquez for the UFC heavyweight title.

A couple other fights. This card not as good as it once was. A lot of injuries. Chris Wyman out, Gray Maynard out. But I do believe there are a few lines out there two weeks out, right? The lines have all come out for the main card and I think one or two undercard fights. They just came out. So these numbers are subject to change because they're hot off the press.

So keep that in mind if you listen to this next week or whatever. What are we looking at here? Main event, that one's been out for a while. The top three fights have been out for a while. Kane versus Jr. Cain's at plus 155. Juniors at minus 175. I came into the first Fox fight really torn on who to pick in this one.

I thought that this was a perfect example of a 50-50 fight. and I really didn't learn much from the first one just because both guys were injured and Junior took them out so quickly that there was really nothing I could really take away from that. Going into that first one, I had my horse was Kane. And going into this one, I think that Kane is the guy to pick again.

So a minor upset at plus 155. I think that Kane's going to just be more active on the feet, you know, not in terms of, boxing, but in terms of a complete game with kicks, um, and being able to mix it up with his wrestling, I think that he's going to be able to defeat junior. Oh.

It's, it's really tough for me to pick this one just because I think that if anybody can end a fight with one punch, it's junior. Just he, he could take cane out again very easily in the exact same manner, but I just think that the cane without that knee injury and I grant that junior also had a knee injury.

Um, I think that he's just going to look like a completely different fighter. More like the fighter we saw against Bigfoot, and I think that he's going to upset Jr. Very happy that we have two weeks to just think about this fight because it deserves it. And I think it's one of the toughest – wouldn't you agree one of the toughest fights to pick of the year? This is the toughest – it was the toughest fight coming into the first Fox, and now it's the toughest fight again. I cannot pick this one, but I'm going with Kane. It's just – it's too tough.

Then you create that very interesting scenario. I know you haven't had a chance to think about it, but Bigfoot. over him who you pick overing. You pick over him so then we get okay because I was thinking if Bigfoot wins then you really could have Cormia versus Kane I think that Daniel Cormier might be the best heavyweight on the planet really I'm I'm going there I would wouldn't it be fun to see him fight Kane Velasquez I think that he might be the best wow we have to see him in the UFC first but yeah I'm gonna go out there

I was so excited to see him get in there you're getting this amazing talent just like bloop here he comes and plus we get overing back heavyweight division next year is going to be great so okay

so you're picking Kane what about co-main event which I guess is but they're not really treating it as such it's all about the main event

but I guess see what is it Jim Miller it's a Jim Miller fight right I think that's right I have the order on the betting page differently so if it's

if that's the co-mean Miller and Lozon Miller is minus 210 and Lozon is plus 160 so another relatively close one does that surprise you No. I think that Miller is the, I'm picking Miller in this one, and I think that that's the reasonable choice.

I think that that's a pretty good line on him, by the way, as well, minus 210. I love Joe Lozahn in the first round of every fight. He's going to submit you or knock you out in the first round. That threat is always there in the first round, but, you know, he's been known to fade later. I know he works on that, and I know that, you know, that's kind of a stigma that's been attached to him, that maybe might not be rightful at this point. But I just think that Miller's proven that he can weather a storm that that punch he took from Melvin and was able to recover and still win that fight.

He's just one of those guys that you can't count out of a fight. Even against Henderson, he's still in the fight at the very end. And I just think that his toughness combined with how well-rounded he is. I see these guys having very similar skill sets in terms of being, you know, reasonably adequate technical boxers and having, you know, elite-level jujitsu games. But I just think that Miller's toughness and his well-rounded game is a little too much for Lozon. But I think that this is going to be potential fight of the night easily.

Like this one has it written all over it. One of the things I love about this sport is our short-term memories or maybe our long-term memories because beginning of the year, Anthony Pettus, knocked out Joe Lozon viciously. Lozon comes back in August, defeats Jamie Varner in a fight of the year candidate, and all of a sudden you kind of forget about that, and you're starting to think, like, well, wait, shouldn't Lozon be the favor going into this? But no, Miller's coming off a loss to Nate Diaz, and most people, including myself, have him ranked a little higher, but it's amazing how you can start the year with a knockout

like that, go into the end of the year's show, and a big fight like this, and no one's really even talking about the Pettus fight. But for Lozon, I'm really curious to see, like, he always wins one or two in a row, looks fantastic and then gets a big opportunity and doesn't come up big. I'm curious if he could finally go on a big run and maybe make a push because if you look at his record, like wins one, two, huge fights and then he gets a big, so this would be it. I mean, the Maynard fight would have been it, but Miller is a very good second choice for him. Let's move on.

What else you got? Belcher Okami. Oh, this one really flying under the radar. This is almost a In a pickum It's plus 100 for Belcher Okami's minus 120 So a very very slight favorite

I like Okami in this one I think that I'm a big Okami fan I like his skill set I like what he's able to do to guys I like how he can box with you And he can stiffen you up with that jab And at the same time he can grind on you

And impose his will with his wrestling You don't find a lot of guys that can just completely shut you down in two facets of the game and then mix it up at the same time. Belcher is super well-rounded, super tough. We saw in that Paul Haras fight that he was able to fight off those submissions and get one of his own. I was extremely impressed. I'm just, I'm just a very, I'm very sold on Okami's skill set. And I don't think that the come from behind knockout by Boch changes that. I think that, you know, that was a once in a lifetime kind of thing. and I think that Okami's going to impose his will in this fight.

And you know they fought once before. Yeah, this was a while ago, yeah? Yeah, yeah, a long time ago. Very different fight around Belcher is. So, you know, I don't think you could really... I wonder, when you talk to them, I wonder if they'll look back on that. But Okami did win. Whoa, my little pack thing here just fell.

But yeah, Okami did win. But what one was that? I'm looking at his record now. UFC 62, that was in 2006. So six years ago. A lot has changed for both guys since then. Belcher coming off that huge win, you know, a lot of people forgot about that. He was supposed to fight Vitor Belfort, had the back injury, so I'm curious to see how he looks as well.

Now, you're picking one more or you're only going with the three there? I can pick a few more. I'll do him quick, maybe. Okay, yeah. Philippeu and Boch. Yeah, that's interesting one. This one's surprise. I think you might be surprised by this.

Philipu opened as an underdog at plus 105. No, I think that's accurate. He's currently minus 160, the favorite. Oh, really? The line opened this morning and the action immediately came in on Philippa. So he's the favorite at minus 160, Boch is the underdog at plus 130. How quickly can that change? It all changes based on how quickly the people get their bets in when the line opens.

So if the people see Philippeu at plus 105 and they think that that's a great line and they get their money in real quick, the line can change immediately. So you think people are placing bets from now? Oh, yeah. Yeah? If I refresh my page, these lines could be completely different. Wow. Hopefully they're listening to me and- Right.

So, Philippoo's the favorite. Philip-oo is the favorite. Wow. And which is, I remember when we had him on the show, he was talking about being an underdog. And I was saying that as an underdog, he's a great pick. I like Philippe who in this fight. And apparently, the people agree with me. I like Philippeau in this fight.

I'm not sure if he climbs, you know, to a bit of a higher favorite that I'd still like him. But at minus 160, I think that he's still the choice here. But if this climbs. to like maybe two to one. I think that's a little too far. Boch has shown that he's pretty good at 185. And I don't know if, you know, Philippeus had a level of competition that matches what Boch has had worth being that big of a favorite. But at minus 160, I still like Philippe here. And then what about one of our best interviews of the year? The Cripler, he returns Chris Leibman after his suspension against

Carlos Vemela. This is a very interesting one. I really don't know who I'm going to go with. So Let me think about it for half a second. Was this the last one you wanted to do? Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm going to go with Vemela as the underdog at plus 125, mostly because Liebens had so much time off that I really can't know what to predict coming in. And oftentimes when that happens, I like to go with the underdog just because, you know,

the guy could have ring rust, the guy. There's so many different factors against Leibon that I think that the underdog is the better play here. And Vemela's been up and down, especially, you know, he's changed weight classes, but his fights have been up and down. He's either, you know, completely ragdolled guy with his wrestling and his, you know, impressive stature, or he's been, you know, outboxed or outgrappled technically. He's kind of one of those, like, big, brutish, raw fighters. And I think that against Lieben, that might be, you know, something to, to his benefit. it because Lieben's going to get into that kind of fight too. Now, oftentimes when somebody gets into that type of fight with Leban, he ends up knocking them out

because he can go zombie mode and just absorb that punishment and dish it right back. But I think that Vemela might take it to the ground, a little grounded pound, so I'm picking Vemela in this one. But I think that it's a close fight. More hate for New York, Rick, on the Twitter here. Someone says, tell Rick sports betting 101 that you never bet against a champion when the line is so close to even money. True story. This fight is not going to decision. Well, he's talking about the main event.

Yeah, it's not going to decision. So that doesn't really matter. It takes a massive money swing to even change a line by 5%. He says. Okay. I don't know. There's a lot of haters out there. What can I say?

I'm trying to toughen your skin here. No, sure. The first one, Kane Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos is not going to decision. The reason he's saying that in a close fight, they're going to give it to the champion. which is not even true, by the way. I mean, Frankie Edgar lost his title on a close fight very recently,

and it's happened many times in the past, but that's not going to happen in this fight anyway. That fights ending before five rounds. The other thing is, sure, it takes a lot of money to change the line. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know what's coming through, so it's hard to really say. Good point, sir. It is a good card despite the injuries.

You got the run down there for Rick's picks, FX prelims, Brad Pickett versus Eddie Wineland, Eric Perez versus Byron, Bloodworth, Michael Johnson coming off a big knockout win over Danny Castillo against Miles, Fury, Jerry, Leonard Garcia versus Cody McKenzie, and how about the Facebook prelims may be the best two Facebook prelim fights in recent memory? Phil DeFries versus the returning Duffman, Todd Duffy, on Facebook, on Facebook. And then a fight that could very well determine maybe the number one or two contender at 125, Chris Carrioso against John Moraga.

That is a great flyweight fight. So that's your 155 card. It's December 29th, right before New Year's, right after Christmas. Always fun to have that year-end UFC show. And then New Year's Eve, Dream, Glory, they have their big collaboration at the Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan.

Those were Rick's picks. Follow them. Follow him on Twitter. Twitter.com slash New York, Rick. let's finally take some questions here, some comments, and then we will say bye-bye for the year. We ready? Yeah.

Okay, the first couple come from the website. Okay, great. They come from the post. I like, by the way, thank you very much to everyone. I know everyone's leaving questions. I really appreciate it. I love that people are being interactive on the website. All right.

Kim Winslow was the referee for the heavyweight bout between Roy Nelson and Matt Mitreone. Do you think it's safe to allow her or smaller referees to ref a heavyweight fight? I was concerned for their safety. I mentioned this on Twitter during the fight. Someone was saying, oh, why? Just because she's a girl, she isn't good enough or able to rep this fight.

A, I was referring to her size, but more importantly, I was referring to the fact that I don't think she's a good referee. It baffles my mind that Nevada, the quote-unquote fight capital of the world, can continue to hire and assign two of the most controversial referees, and I'm being kind. Steve Mazagati and Kim Winslow. I do not think they're good referees. I don't have as big of an issue with Mazegadi as Dana does. I think there are other guys that are way worse than he is. I don't think he – but it's just amazing to me that he continues to make mistakes. And I do think that part of the problem is, truthfully, Dana criticizes him a lot.

And how does that not affect you? You know, he's right there watching you. You feel it. Has that not affect you? Ritchie gets kicked below the equator. Nothing happens. Winslow, I mean, I've never seen anything to make me feel like, okay, out of her, to make me feel like, okay, we've got the best person possible in there. And that should be, at the end of the day, that should be what you're striving towards, right?

You need the best person possible in the cage to ensure the safety of the fighters and to make sure the fight is stopped when it needs to be stopped. And I just don't get that feeling out of them. I get a lot of hesitation, a lot of uncertainty. I just don't get that presence, that there's a reference. that there's a referee here like Big John McCarthy or Herb Dean that knows what he's doing. And that's not just on them. That's a big issue. Yes, they've had their moments.

But I don't know. I just don't feel like, I really truly don't feel like they are the best ones for the job. And it surprises me that Nevada continues to hire them. And maybe they're doing things behind the scenes to make them better. But I don't know. Anyway, what were you trying to say to me, Buzzkill? Were you telling me to wrap up? Is that what you were saying?

Buzzkill. Was it Rick saying? Our next question. Okay. Sorry, this is a very important subject, and I will not stop talking about it until our voices are heard. Okay, here we go. Are you getting sicker as the show goes on?

Well, I just want to see if I could collapse here on the show. Okay, should Herb Dean have stopped Dimitriot Nelson fight momentarily to give Matt his mouthguard? There were plenty of chances, or is it on the fighter to make the effort? Also, are mouthguards nowadays shock-absorbing and supposed to help with concussions and being knocked out. So it would have been best if Matt had this. Well, I asked Roy about that.

I mean, he dismissed it. I thought that, you know, Herb should have stopped it if there was an opportunity. But the thing is, I mean, in the flow of the fight, need to watch the tape again. But in the flow of the fight, I mean, if you're Roy, you'd be pissed if he stopped the fight. You cause that to happen. And that's part of the game. So I'm curious to know what happened. I think it was delaying the inevitable if you were going to complain that, you know,

he wouldn't have got knocked out. But yeah, in a situation like that, if the mouthpiece is out, I really do believe that if there's an opportunity, you should go in there and stop the fight and give the fighter his mouthpiece. Quick hitter. If Leibon beats Vemmela, would Levin versus Lombard makes sense? Not really. I think Lombard should fight someone higher.

You know, names like Weidman come to mind. Luke Rockhold come to mind, Alan Belcher come to mind. I think Leibin needs to win a couple in a row before he gets into that discussion. It's a bit of a lengthy one. After McDonald's impressive win over the Prodigy, he looked amazing in that fight in my opinion. Could he be rising through the division too quickly? He's scheduled to fight Condit on the same card as GSP versus Diaz, a great card, by the way, top five welterweights in three fights.

If he wins impressively, he can only be one fight at the most away from the title shot. maybe another Jones Evans situation unfolding. Well, yeah, I mean, I've been talking about this for a while, and I don't think he's being moved up the ladder too quickly. I mean, he almost beat Carlos Condit in his second UFC fight in his home province of British Columbia. You have to move him along. He's beating guys in very impressive fashion,

and they'll deal with that situation when it comes. Remember, there's still Johnny Hendricks out there. There's still the Anderson Silva fight out there, and he says he wants to fight a middleweight. So I have no problem with the way they're pushing him. And by the way, I saw a comment here. someone said that they wanted you and I if they won the question to sign it. Can you imagine someone asking for your signature how far you've come?

But I don't know if that was him and I don't know if he's going to win it, but I thought that was cool. There he is. Yeah. Nath Ryans. We love you. I'd be glad to sign anything. What else we got? Next question is about the Korean zombie?

Oh, yeah. When is the Korean zombie, the long last Korean Diaz brother, coming back and who does he get next after three? wins. The last two wins being Porriere and Homonic. He's definitely flying under the radar. What I said on Saturday night about the Korean zombie, he had shoulder surgery which forced him out of the Mikal card. I thought that

what I said was basically the Jose-Aldo-Frank-Egris fight is happening on February 2nd. At this point, he's almost there. I think he should be the number one contender. Featherweight is very interesting all of a sudden, but you've got the Lama's versus his Coke fight happening. You got Porre who just looked good. He beat him, of course. I think that TKZ should fight the winner of Edgar Aldo. I mean, we're just a month away, essentially, from that

fight a month and a half. Have him fight the winner of that fight. It works out perfectly, in my opinion. So that's what I would do. Lamas Coke, maybe have him fight the winner of, or maybe even have him fight Porier. And there's a lot of interesting guys. I mean, Chad Mendez looked fantastic on Friday night, picking up a big knockout win. So, by the way, it's very interesting, all sudden. But that's what I would do with the Korean zombie. This is our last one from the comment section. The ultimate fighter, I'm sorry, the ultimate

fighter finale fight was atrocious, atrocious to watch for me. That said, I understand that it was Ritchie's job to get out of that position. While laying on someone, the entire fight doing no damage is still considered a dominant position, do you think it should be the referee's job to identify when a fighter is just laying on top, doing no damage, or is it ultimately up to the

fighter on the bottom to get out of that position no matter what the circumstances are? Well, Wuku, of course that's the ref's job. I mean, if they're not doing anything, yeah, you got to send them up. But I hate, just because it's not exciting, it doesn't mean he's not doing anything. And that's a problem in MMA these days. There are guys who are working towards things, and if you're not well-versed in the sport, particularly what's happening on the ground, you may stand a guy up who's working towards something.

It doesn't happen in a second. and not everyone passes guard in a split second. You know, these things take time. It's a fight. It's two very strong and athletic men going at it on the ground. So I hate when guys pull the trigger. Referees, so guys or girls pull the trigger too quickly. If I were a referee, you have to recognize what's happening.

You have to recognize the scenarios that could be played out here. Just saw something very weird there. And if they're not doing anything of note, and if they're not building towards something, yeah, you send them up. But for the most part, you know, they need to hold back on that as opposed to doing that too quickly. And that's, that's, you know, I had no problem with what Coldsmith was doing. He was beating him up. He was smothering him.

He was doing work on the ground. I agree completely. I mean, it's not like he wasn't working for a submission. Ritchie's preventing him from doing that. That's the game. If Ritchie made it easy for him and let him tap him out, then. There are oftentimes where guys are just there, head on chest, not doing anything. and that I think is a little weird.

Colton Smith wasn't doing that. It may not have been exciting, but it was effective, and he was working. Here are our Twitter questions. All right, here we go. After such a great weekend of fights with both tough finalies, on the main card and undercarts,

who stole the show? Who stole the show? Well, there's the great Hobby Lobb, right? He had a fantastic performance on the undercard of Saturday nights, a tough 16 finale. A lot of people high on him. I mean, Nelson looked fantastic.

Poor yet. I don't know if there was one. Lombard looked great. Mendez looked great. Pearson looked great. I can't say one guy stole the show. Do you think one guy stole the show? There were so many good fights and so many good finishes that I think that there's nobody who stood head and shoulders above the rest.

And not because there weren't impressive performances. There were just so many. There were so many. This was a fantastic weekend for the UFC. Beltor, on the other hand, not a good weekend. We may get to that with Marcin Held not being allowed to fight. because he was underage. That is a very bizarre, and I don't understand how that happened.

But for the UFC, I don't think one guy stole the show. All those guys I mentioned stole the show. As great as Barry's K.O. was. Should say this for me? Well, it's Hobby Love. Hobby Love, but people were calling him Hobby Lobb. And did you see his Twitter handle? His Twitter handle was like...

That stole the show. Yeah, that did steal the show. It was like 8-9-27. It was like his phone number. It was amazing. And then they changed it. So did 8-9, blah, blah, blah. But frankly, did his frankly terrifying suplex should that have won K.O. of the night?

I mean, yeah, you can make a case. There were a lot of good performances. A lot of people, I mean, after Darren Krochshank didn't get Kio the night, how could we really complain about that? They hook guys up. You know, Barry did it, maybe against tougher competition, whatever. But yeah, it was amazing. That reminded me of Rory and Nate at 129. And he knocked them out doing it. So it was even more. more impressive. Unbelievable debut for the hobby man. Where does Roy Nelson go from here? Two-fight win streak, but not against guys that will put him in title contention. That's a good question. You know, the biggest thing I took away from the Nelson win was Fabrice Overdome is really a lot better than we think he is.

He beat up Roy Nelson. And yes, Nelson didn't go down. But Fabrice Overdum's win in February was really damn impressive. And it's almost unfortunate that he's going to be out for a year. They need him on tough for Brazil. you know, Big Nog and whatnot. He's fighting in June. But, wow, for Bissue ver-do.

Anyway, Roy Nelson, I think the Corbier fight makes sense, but apparently Corbyn wants Mere and that makes sense. I think Pat Barry makes sense. That would be a very fun fight. It seems like Roy may think that he's a little bit above. Mr. Barry. Those are the names. Czech Congo still out there who often, you know, produces great fights.

So those were the three names that came to mind. And there's also the Wild Card out there, who I also think would be interesting if you want. Josh Barnett. If Josh Barnett wins on January 12th, I think he would be interesting for Roy Nelson. Am I missing anyone? I don't know what to do with Roy, honestly.

Yeah, he fought Stefan Struve. Brown is out for a while. I just, yeah, I'm just looking here at my top 10 that I gave to fuel. There's big non-key's booked. Antonio Silva's fighting. Alster Overeem, Struve is fighting. Mark Hunt.

Mark Hunt would be fun as well. but I think those guys I mentioned make the most sense. Moving on to the next question. What do you think of Varner's team accusing Melvin of greasing right before their fight is canceled? I mean, I'd like to hear that from Varner. Melvin said it. So I don't want to go into that too much because Melvin said it. What a funny interview that was with Heidi Andrew, who I thought did a great job on the fuel broadcast,

where she asked him if he ever wanted to fight Varner again. He said no. and then she said, well, Dana White, courtesy of our own area, Hawaii, might I add, is saying you will fight at 155. He's like, all right, cool, no problem. That didn't take too long.

But yeah, I'd like to speak to Jamie about that and see if there was any validity to that claim. Jamie couldn't come on the show. He said he was too sick. We will see him in two weeks, so I think that's the best time to address that. I thought Mitreone looked pretty good before the KO in good shape, too, thoughts.

He did look to be in good shape. Remember, he hadn't fought in what? 14 or so months. I was still surprised that he just stood toe to toe with Roy. I mean, Roy wants that. Great chin, great boxing. That's his game.

And I thought maybe he'd try to clinch, maybe try to make it a little dirty, excuse me, especially after he was rock, but maybe it was too late. So I still believe that wasn't the best matchup for Matt. I think Matt was put in a very tough spot. He turned down the Corbier fight. Yes, he stepped up,

but who knows how that went and you know he needed a big fight he needed to be on the big stage couldn't turn down another fight but yes he did step up first I think the Phil de Freese fight would have made more sense for him to ease his way back into the UFC

but he took the fight kudos to him and I think we'll see him back I think he just needs to work his way back up and obviously be more active it's been a very rough stretch for him what do you think of a Porrier versus Mendez next I love this it would be a fascinating matchup I love this fight

this is a great fight both guys lost you know, Mendez lost the title fight. Porier, what we sort of were billing as a number one contendif. I love this. Do you like this? I think it makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. It absolutely does. It makes perfect sense.

I wonder what you do with Eric Koch versus Ricardo Lomas, the winner of that fight, but let's not worry about that. They just fought it around the same time. Love it. Why give the tough winner a motorbike if their contracts wouldn't allow them to ride one? I saw this a lot on Twitter this weekend.

And how about Colton Smith did not seem all that into the motorcycle. That is a very good question. Why you want to know? Well, Holly Davidson is a sponsor. That's why. So, yeah. I mean, what more can you say about that?

It is a very awkward thing to do after you were scolding someone for riding a motorcycle, but they are a sponsor, and that's the way it goes. Sponsors, dot a dot of bills. BJ Penn exploded back onto the scene as a tough coach and fighting at lightweight. 2013 return as a tough coach and lightweight question mark well i would love to see him as a lightweight in 2013 no tough coach for me um if he's back i want to see him back i want to see him fighting i still believe that there's some tweaking to be how with tough let's see what happens on january 22nd with uh the 17th season but um i still am not so old that you need the coaches anymore

truthfully a lot of these guys getting injured i mean you're keeping them on on ice for so long look at Verdume and Nog. Comeback season, baby. That's what I'm talking about. Joseph Benavides tweeted about it. We're finally gaining some momentum. I'd love to see a comeback season with some guest coaches, but I don't think you need to have just a coach.

Two coaches fight. I think that's been there, done that. Strange matchmaking for Hendricks, giving him Ellenberger, who was just knocked out by the guy Hendrix just knocked out. Do you agree? Well, yeah, but what else are you going to do? Ellenberger's coming off a win, and what else are you going to do? It's happened before.

Who else is out there? Can you think of anyone for Hendricks to fight? I can't just because Hendricks deserves the title shot. There's nobody else who is worthy of fighting Hendricks, honestly. That's true. But you're not going to give him Rory because he's fighting Condon. I think that fight makes a lot of sense. GSP fighting Diaz.

I mean, Diaz would have made sense. You can kind of mix those six guys up and you can get three new matchup. fresh matchups, but of the guys out there, I just, I don't know. I mean, Ellenberger's still in the top 10. A lot of people have them, you know, top 8, whatever. He beat Kosteck already. He beat Fitch already. Diego's going down to 155.

Who's out there? No one. So you got to go with Hendrix. Excuse me, you got to go with Ellenberger. Dear Ariel Hawani and New York, Rick, what UFC fighter will have the biggest year in 2013? Off the top of my head, I could. think of a few. I think

Roy is going to have a huge year. You got to think of the guys who are going to fight early and then be very active. I think Rory comes to mind. Depending on when he comes back, I think Wydenman can have a big year. This is a big year for Bisping. I think he will get his title shot. Under the radar, a lot of guys. Gunner Nelson comes to mind.

I'm really high on him. He's fighting in February. Maybe Michael May Day McDonald's who's also fighting on that card. Those are a few guys that come to mind. How about you? Daniel Cormier. Ah, that is a good one. That is a very good one.

Yeah, yeah. Just saying. Yeah, Daniel Cormier, that is a good one. All right, you taught me. This is our last one. Wow, who got that pick of me from this morning in my bathroom? What odds does Rick's picks give when this beast steps into the cage? You see, I didn't go tanning that day, so I'm a little pale.

Who is that, by the way? Who do you think that really is? I think that's Chale? No, I see a tat on the shoulder. And also it's Edgar Maynard. Oh, is that? Oh, you know who that is? That's Brian Stan.

That's what he fought Chris Levin at 125. Bang! That's Brian Stan. If you're listening to this only, someone put, my good friend Aliso, put my face on top of what I think is Brian Stan's. That's his tattoo, right? Could be?

Yeah. It's really a bad angle to see the tag. Or is it Frankie Edgar? No, no, no, no. That's not Frankie pose. That's not Frankie. Yeah, that's not Frankie. Listen.

Yeah, well, you answer the question. It's for you. It's not for me. Well, it depends on who you're up against. I mean, if I'm playing a fantasy matchmaker. Who would you like to see me? I mean, I wouldn't put myself in there because, let's be honest, I'll take you out too quickly. No, but as far as, like, active UFC fighters,

who do you think I would match up well? Wait, what? Yeah. I'm sorry. Active UFC fighters. This guy, this guy, who would I match up well against? Oh, boy. I can't do that

Because as soon as one of those guys Comes on the show You're going to tell him that I said Ariel Hawani would beat them on I mean look Ariani seems very impressed With what I'm bringing to the table Shandella not so impressed

Did you get Shandala taken out Because of her lack of enthusiasm For your pose? Wow you almost went down A really bad path there I'm just talking about You look at this guy right here What he brings to the table

Who are you thinking I'm a what am I a 185er if we're assuming that's a well no you're assuming that's me well I know you cut down from like that's true 205 that's true um how about you face uh Brian Stan we see what happens you want me to go another another commentator um you could you guys could have like a yeah a color analyst off but like van der Le Silva I'm gonna get booed in that fight I mean there's no way unless it's it's in Montreal i don't know i think you might be the favorite in that that's true you know where the hawaii nose shirts coming soon yeah coming soon february baby by the way speaking of howlwani knows

february first week of february that's what i'm told they will be out and fresh and you will love them all right so that's it uh who do we got who are we giving out these prizes to a lot of options yeah i can't think at this point um it's 440 for god's sake We've been doing this for almost four hours. Can you pick already? Man, I don't know. I like the question about the Korean zombie from the comment section. Got to give love to the Mendez-Poree.

I love fantasy matchmaking. So let's give Topps Cards to that guy. Okay. Mendez-Poree, fight. I loved it. And how about the one about, well, are we giving prizes to the comment section? I think we might have to stick to Twitter on this one. Okay, fine, fine, fine.

fine. Next year we'll figure it out. How about the breakout star? Cormier. That's a good one. It gave me a chance to drop Cormier. And it's a heavyweight, Alastair Overeem. Bang.

Right? Perfect. All right. They win the round five, Alistair Overim. Courtesy of round five, Alster Overeem, Pride Edition, and quickly tell the people what they got here with the Tops cards. You have that? Yeah.

Now, everyone just saw your email. Or maybe we're not on this. shot. Looks like you're doing some other chatting there. Area, we're not on that email. You got to stop calling out to every single thing. All right. Well, you know, very... Okay, so the winner gets the 2013 UFC bloodlines.

They're in stores already, and as I said last week, they celebrate the diversity of the UFC and Strike Force and its fighters in cards that specifically honor the various stars and their national heritages. Each mini box contains either an autograph card or a memorabilia card, and collectors can find an autograph and or memorabilia from such fighters as GSP, Anderson Silva, Ronda, Rory MacDonald, Shogun Huah, and many more.

You can find more information about the bloodlines and tops at www.tops.com, Facebook.com slash tops, or you can follow them on Twitter at Topps Cards. Other people saying that they want to see me against Bob Sapp in our big rematch in Nigeria. Of course, there's Hollywood Halwani versus Rampage. that was in fact, Brian Stan. Thank you very much to the good people at Topps for hooking us up. Love the support. And finally, I just want to thank all of you.

Again, I touched on this last week, but what a year it has been for us. We started off with a lot of uncertainty, if you recall, it feels like it was a long time ago, but we didn't even start the year off. I think our first show was like late January because we were still working hard to get this thing set up, everything back there set up. We had Isaac and New York Rick at the beginning. Buzzkill came. came in, closed the deal, gave us that extra punch that we needed, and really put the whole thing together.

And we are way, way better off here than we ever were at our old home at AOL. They started it all. They gave us the opportunity, but we are, I feel like, a well-oiled machine here. And I think 2013 going to be huge for this show. And this was by far professionally and personally for me, best year of my life. And you guys, the listeners, the viewers, everyone who tweets, leaves comments, everyone who supports MMAfighting.com, and what we do here, you are a huge part of that. So I can't thank you enough for all your support and all your appreciation that you give

us on a weekly and daily basis because it really helps make the show better and makes us strive to be better. So thank you so much for that. And we really appreciate it. And that's why we gave you some extra time here so you can't bitch and complain that we're off for two weeks returning January 7th. cut this show up, listen to it, enjoy it over the holidays. We hope that you have a great, great holiday season with your loved ones, and you appreciate it,

and you have fun, you watch a little MMA, and you appreciate their time and their love and everything that they bring to the table, because this is a beautiful, beautiful world that we all live in. Isaac, you can hit my music, my friend, for one final time in 2012. What a year it has been from Chris Lieben to Henner Gracie to Preveck, to Rieck, to Rone, to Rampage Dancing in Studio to Lucky Patrick, Mayhem Miller, to Mike Tyson, to Sensei Sagal. I mean, the list goes on and on. There was a stretch there where we were just, it was like one big name after the next. We had our three-year anniversary, CM Punk was on.

I mean, everyone who's anyone, it feels like, was on the show this year. It came to Lasquez, Junior Dos Santos, John Fitch. didn't get the Diaz brothers, but one day, one day, my friend, we will get them. Anyway, I want to thank everyone for stopping by, for tuning in, for all the love and support, not only today, but throughout the year. I want to thank you, in particular, Roy Nelson. Thank you very much for him. Congratulations, Daniel Cormier, Pat Barry, Mike Pyle, Dwayne Ludwig, and our good man,

Puyahreebeck, for coming in studio. A fantastic year in the world of mixed martial arts. one that while there were injuries, some transition uncertainty, we still had amazing fights, we still had great moments. Stars were born, and I think what it really does is gets us all very excited for 2013, which if everyone stays healthy, please God, remain healthy, with the Strike Force fighters coming over to the UFC, with Bellator coming over to Spike, with some huge fights in the UFC coming up,

Dream returning, Invicta, all these World Series and finding all these promotions. We have a lot to talk about come 2013. Happy holidays. I love you all. Happy New Year. We will see you in 2013 pace. I'm out of you. They say an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Well, why not make it a limited edition

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