MMA Fighting - The MMA Hour - Episode 262

Episode Date: December 30, 2014

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On this Monday, December 29th, 2014, that's the last time I'll be saying that this year. How about that? So it's another Best-Uff show. We were off last week. We're technically off this week, but we still want to give you something. So like we did last week, we're having a Best-U-Show. As I said, 2014, the very best year in the history of the MMA hour. How long has this show been around five years?

That's a pretty good run in my opinion. It started in June of 2009. So actually, five plus years. How about that? Approaching our sixth birthday. So we've had a great year. We've had some big guests, some big names. And I thought it would be apropos to look back during this holiday season.

You can sit around the fire with your little. loved ones, grab a cup of eggnog, do whatever you do, and just sit back and enjoy the best of the MMA hours. So I go to Mr. New York Rick now, and I ask him, who will be joining us? Who will we be hearing from on this Best of number two show? So last week was a long time first time. Yes, yes. The theme of this one is old favorites. So, I mean, leading off, it was a no-brainer for a best-of Matt Sarah's two-hour session in studio. Was that two hours? Two hours. Mully. I mean.

Was it really two hours? Two hours. Wow. And we played guest the pasta, right? Among other things. Yes, yes. Coconuts were involved. There was a lot.

That's right. Okay. I think the people will be pleased with that one. Yes, yes, yes. Next one. Friend of the show. Always comes in when he can. Alistair Overe.

Yes. This is after his win over Frank Meir. Is it before or after? In studio was after. And... Way to pay attention. Yes. A friend of the show as well,

Connor McGregor, but the caveat, with Cole Miller, same time. When they were supposed to fight. Correct. Yes. And then we have another two-parter, another joint guest. We have D.C. Daniel Cormier

and the newly signed UFC fighter, Mr. C. M. Punk. Oh, yes. When he showed up, unexpected, right? Called into the show. This is before the D.C. Jones fight was postponed, but very apropos, we're just days away now from UFC 182. And another fan of the show.

Everybody's a fan of this guy. Yes. But another friend of the show, Mr. Mark Hunt. Now, this one was special. Yes. Because he did it in bed with his wife, with his kids, woke up very early and gave us his time. After he knocked out Roy Nelson in September.

And we round this out with the champ himself, none other than Chris Widman. Chris Widman post-lioto Machita win. right? Correct. Yes. That's fun. I believe this particular wide men interview is when they announced that he was no, no, it was right after UFC 178. So he had just done the TV stuff, talked about the postponement, right? That is it? Yeah, that's a good one. That's when he really went. Gets a little fiery. Yes, yes, yes, I liked it. I liked it very much. All right,

so it's best of number two. Final show of the year. Thank you so much for the support. Sit back, relax, relive it all, and then I'll say goodbye when it's all. said and done. And now we are being joined in studio by Matt Sarah, who... I'm tweeting that I'm here. Should I keep doing that or no? No joke. It has taken him 15 minutes.

Hold on. Fundraise it is Sunday. 15 minutes to send out a tweet that he's in studio. It's taking you almost... There he is, everyone. It's taking you almost as long as it took you to finally get in studio. Now, here we are. Wow.

See, I try to tighten up my face? Get me at the right angle. You fucks. Good. Let me move it on a little bit. All right, go ahead. Let's see. I look, as long as you get me at the right angle, I look powerful, no?

Five years. Today's are... Hold on, can I do the titty thing? I just tweeted a picture of your calf. Are you still tweeting? Let me just... Oh, my gosh. I'm at the fundraiser this Sunday.

Well, why am I here, first of all? We'll get to that in a second. Just get to tweet out of the way. You're going to keep people in suspense? I just tweeted your calf. What is going on with the cat? Fundraiser this Sunday. Yes.

It's at Sarah B.J. It said Sarah BJJ Huntington. Okay. Why are you asking for confirmation? No, I'm just, I'm just trying to slow you down so I can get this tweet out. Were you in Times Square just now? Because John Jones was there, Chuck Lael, Misha Tate, some of the biggest names in the UFC. Is that today?

Yes, for the EA Sports. Literally two blocks from here. Fundraise of this Sunday at Sarah B.J. Huntington, holla. Did they not invite you? You know what? I must have missed the memo. Wow. I didn't get the invite.

What is that? You're trying to make me? What is this? Well, I feel like a former UFC Walterway champion. I mean, you're at least in the game, right? God, you know what, man? I hope I'm in the game. You don't know?

Because, you know what? No one never changes is those damn pixiled abs. They're just beautiful. One time when I first did the back with THQ, yeah, they had to take the picks of the body for the thing. And I remember it was after I first fought George. And it was a little bit, was it that's when it was? I don't know.

I'm not sure exactly. But it was a little, it was like a month or something after a fight. So I was kind of in like, you know, maybe car mode. Right, right, right. So the guy goes, don't worry. He goes, you ever see Chuck LaDown without his shirt on? Look at him now in the picture. And they showed them all ripped up.

Like, oh, that's a, that's, that makes me feel good. And then they took the pictures of me with the probes. I had to go on like the standing, tanning booth thing. And I felt confident for what they did with Chuck because Chuck's not walking around like George St. Pierre, you know? Oh my God. Dude, I look like a little slob in that thing. You see the first one?

No, you think I remember how you lug in the first video game? I guess that's nothing would stand out. That would have stand out in your mind. But it stands out my mind. Sure, of course. It's you. This is not going anywhere. No, but.

But at the second one, they made me look good. The one, the third one, the third one, they made. I hope, I hope that's not true. Don't, don't jinx me. You're a big gamer. I think I'm probably going to be in there. It comes out tomorrow. Are you going to get it?

You know, it's funny. I just, you know, I just turned 40 the other day? Wow. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. You look great. You see my calf?

You know what I got? My wife, I mean, 40 years old. What do you get with that? I don't know. I got a fucking Xbox one. Dude, I'm a child. Oh, a man child. So you're going to get the game, even though you're not in it.

I might be in it. Are you sure I'm not in? Can we do some research on the show? Hey, Eric. Nice guys in the back, by the way. I like these guys. I'm not saying a hippie. The long-haired laid-back guy.

Yeah, yeah. You got a nice staff here. Very nice. Water seeks its own level. What the fuck are they doing with you, these guys? Nice guys. Eric, look at it if he's in the game. I have a feeling he's not.

Could you please, I don't know. Why would you just say that? I'm not. I know because I haven't fought. Like Trago says in a hot minute. I haven't fought recently. You're officially retired, though, right? Yeah, I'm retired.

Dude, I'm fucking 40 now, man. So what? Three kids, how many schools? And what's that? I heard you and Hughes almost got into it a couple weeks ago. Oh, that shit was maybe like over a month ago, right? It was a memorial day. Yeah, yeah.

We got a little something on Twitter. Not just Twitter. No, no, no, not Twitter. When you saw him, didn't you see him when Wyman was fighting? How do you know what he? Not fighting. What do you do? Look at your little birds.

What do you have? Is that not true? Yeah, I did see the guy. I did see the guy. How did you notice? You little fuck. You keep shit. You keep stuff.

When you're the best, they have a name for you. Speaking of the, we're going to get to that in one second. But is everything cool with you? I want to know. You're my buddy. I just got a message right here. Sarah is in the game as a light heavyweight. Who did the joke?

Who did the fucking joke? Who is that? Is that a Twitter? No, this is my Gmail. Tell them to go fuck himself. That's definitely a wise. Carol. Who is it? Okay, Michael Carrow says you're in the game as a light heavyweight joke.

My producer, Eric, says, not in the game. I'm not in the game. Fucking. Maybe they'll put you as a downloadable character. I'm boycotting that shit. What happened with Matt Hughes? I just got the new Xbox One. I don't know.

You can still play with Wyman. I can still play with Wyman. He's raging owl in the game, LA Quinta. Look up if I Quinta's in the game. Hey, what happened? What happened with Jews? Why do you keep dodging the question? What is the question?

would use. But really quick, before I get to use, is everything good with you with the whole UFC? Because I know there was a little bit where you guys, well, I don't know, I heard Dana, I don't know if Dana was pissed at you or what it was. He's always pissed at me. But yeah, you know, it's a love hate. It's understandable. But what exactly happened recently?

Nothing. Nothing happened like within the last couple months. Nothing. Don't, don't fucking bullshit me. Are you serious? I'm good. You're going to attack me for the next hour of the long. I'm here. I'm here. I'm doing a show. I work for five hours. No, I'm proud of you.

You're doing good. I'm always proud of you. You were one of those guys. Actually, in Vancouver, you were one of those guys who really, it was after the trig fight where you call me the Harold CoSell. You know, it's Howard, but tomato-tomato.

It was before the trick fight, as a matter of fact. But you really gave me that. Yeah, yeah. What did you see in me that? The best thing about that compliment? Sure. I'll get back to, hold on.

What did you see in me? What are you fucking serious? I'm here. Dude, I'm here for a cancer fundraiser. Can we get back to that? Wait, wait, we jumped around. We're not finishing any of our topics here.

know what the problem with me is is the fucking ADD. I guarantee I got ADD. It might not be proven. Do you take anything for that really? No, no. I think I'm all right. No.

But I, you know, I did the Joe Rogan podcast. I just thought with one thing. And then we got back to it. We got back to everything. Right. But then it just took a left turn to talk about something else and we got back to that. The sign of a good host. Let's not do that here because we only got an hour.

God knows the M.MA hours, five hours, but still. What were you up to? Hughes. I want to get that out of the way. Oh, let's get back to the Hughes thing. So you heard, no, we talked backstage. You know, he was an interesting guy. And like, you know, I don't want to, we had a little thing on Twitter, not too long ago.

Sure, sure. Right. But there's something more recent. Yeah, yeah, no. I'll get at that. And it was something on Twitter with him inquiring about a grappling match. And, dude, I don't want to make this about Hughes, but I'll get it done really quickly. Sure, sure.

And whatever, we had a little back and forth and about fighting again or something. Dana wasn't biting or they weren't. Everybody seemed excited about it. You would have done it. I would have done it. Just for him. Just for him. Oh, just for him.

Yeah, I'm not looking to make some big comeback, but I can get in shape. I mean, that guy is motivating. But, and I don't think we're fighting, so I don't want to attack the guy, because if you're not going to fight the guy, you shouldn't, you know, what's the point? What is the point? Then you just be a punk.

But, you know, we were going to, it didn't look like it was, it looked like it was getting some momentum. And I'm like, oh, shit, man. And maybe another penny. I got fucking three kids. And then, uh, and then all of a sudden, you know,

Dana made some statement Why make it? I think Dana wasn't, they weren't, it looks like it wasn't gonna happen. Did you call him and ask him? I sent them like a pretty long winded text and then I saw him in LA. It just, I didn't get a, I'm not, dude,

I'm not that guy to be like, please, can I have a fine? I said, listen, man, I sent them a text saying, dude, you know, don't, you know, because he breaks my balls more than you do as far as what we gained in waiting. I go look. You look great, by the way.

I don't know if you're fucking with me not, dude. Just could you. be careful you're in arm's length. We're locked in this place. The security's getting up here. And there's no one here. There's nobody fucking here. Seriously.

It's true. Dude, don't want you. Are you crying? No, I feel like I am crying. Why? I don't know, man.

You're so happy to see me. I got like my eyes watering. But, um, dude, you see, you fucking interrupt me and then we're done. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, so. Oh, no, no. So I saw I use and the thing. So, I mean, I don't, I'm not looking. Listen, man, I got a lot of friends.

I'm not looking for anymore. And especially if we had a little bit of words, like the guy comes over and just, he's like, hey, old man. Hey, and he's got the hand out. And I'm like, I go, we're shaking hands now, you know? Yeah, why not? And the thing is this, though, and then we talked, I brought him in the other room and we talked a little bit. But the thing is, like, if you're a genuine person, it's hard for me to be not cool with somebody who's trying to be cool with you. But if you ever go back to Tough Six, like he's the guy where on that show he was being very nice in the beginning.

And I'm like, oh, man, and then you go and you watch it, and he's just like telling that he thinks he's worn up on you. Like, you see? You just got to kill him with kindness. Let them, you know, it's like, dude, I know you're not genuine. I know you don't really like me. You don't like him? No, we don't like each other, but we're not going to fight.

So whatever, man. Now we're friendly. I was talking to him a little bit, and he was basically telling me, you know, I see, like, you know, only because I feel he's not genuine, I could just shit. It's like, I feel like my way back in the use. UFC is you and you, me. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think they're biting, man. I just don't think they're biting, that's it.

I go, and then he's just like, well, you know, I told him to him, you guys are BFF, that, that, that, that, talk to him, you know? He works for him now. What does he do? He's, uh, come on, I'm not trying to be a dick. I don't want to attack the guy. Fighter development, something.

He's the, he's the policeman. Do you think that, what do you think of that decision? Like if somebody has a hard time, they go to him? No, like if someone's out of line. I don't know. He's a fucking home out of this? What is he doing? Kind of.

I don't know. Come on. Listen. Let's, all right, so that's what happened with me and him. All right.

A little bit. And not only that, after I got all fighting, after I'm done fighting, I don't want to be one of those guys labeled with shit. When I got done fighting, you know, I'm always on the mats.

I met my schools like three days a week. I fucking six days a week. What am I saying? But, uh, you know, I got on the TRT. You're on TRT?

Fuck yeah. Does that explain the calf? Dude, no, I always had the calf. Really? But, you know,

I had some back issues and I'm always on the mat And I figured I get my levels checked Because I have a lot of some guys that were going that were around my age a little bit older or whatever Fucking 40 You believe I'm 40? How'd that happen? You look great Wait, wait, wait, so your doctor recommended it?

No, no, so I went now with my things were like in the 300ths or whatever I'm like, really? Wow. So I'm a candidate. So listen, as long as I'm not fighting, what the hell who cares? So I got on it. What do you think of these like 28-year-olds who are on TRT? I think that's kind of stupid.

And it's funny, I don't know why my levels were, they were around like three something, which I don't think is hurt. It's pretty low. But usually you get low stuff because you've done stuff. Right. I've never done anything. I never did anything. Never did.

Nothing. Never in my life. Nothing. What I used to do back in the day, which was fun. You ever have a Fedra? No. Holy shit, man. I used to drink like the rip-boss of Fedras when I was like 23, 24.

Before a fight? Oh, fuck no. No. Just one time before a, one time, I think. first match ever, related to the MMA. Yeah. It was a shoot fighting match. And you know, Big Dan, the ref? Of course. It was at his place in New Jersey. I was a

Purple Belt, me and my brother. And there was a shoot fighting match. And we never fought before anything. I was a purple belt, and there was like a couple weeks notice he came in. Oh, I'm doing a local amateur thing in my thing, shoot fighting. It's like rope escapes and this and that. Wow. So I was a little, I'm like, oh, I'll do it. And I'll be my brother ended up doing it. A little nervous. My first time I was doing anything like this. It was like 20, whatever I was. You had yet to make your debut. Oh, yeah. My first time ever in some kind of cage or

ring or whatever, just fighting. But it was like open hand standing on the floor. It was just submission. It was like shoot fighting. But you're still a little nervous because you, I've never done anything like this, you know? I mean, I fought, but, you know, Henzel, what do I expect? You know, this is fucking crazy. Hensos, I go to Hensow. Hensel's got to know what the dude to fight. And, you know, I love Hensel, but he's crazy. He's awesome. But, so I go, Henzo, I go, and I'm sure he'd give different advice now. Sure.

But he tells, I go, Hansel, man, the day of the fight, you know, what do I, you know, what do I do? You know, like, should I, should I, he goes, man, he goes, go to the GNC, get the rip and fuel. Take one of those bills during the day. You feel nice all day. So I'm like, all right.

And I go, I go, all right, ripet fuel, and the fucking rip fuel, you know. So I got one of those on backstage with my brother. I'm like, you know, they're out there. People screaming. I'm like, oh, I'm a little fucking nervous. You know, it's not like me. He said, take one pill.

I took one pill. I'm still feeling, you know, let me take another pill. I popped like fucking, and I must have did like five of those things, right? So fucking, I went out. Boom, bell rings. Pick the guy up with a double leg slam. Don't pop, paw, paw, rear naked choke. But the fucking guy grabbed the rope, so it's a rope escape, right?

Boom, take him down again. And he was a guy from, like, West Virginia or something. It's like a tough guy, you know, but like he wasn't that great. like on the floor and there was no hitting on the floor so I'm mounting home and he's keeping his arms and tight and so it went like 10 minutes and I felt like I had extreme tunnel vision I had my heart was

I was from the ephedra plus the adrenaline I was fucking felt like I was gonna I go man his fighting's fucking rough and did you win? Yeah I won because he had to grab the rope and then it went the distance with me just dominating him on the ground but so basically what you were trying to say is you cheated

in your first fight I don't know maybe I guess I don't know. I took the fucking rip force. I was listening to my master. I don't know. Hey, speaking of your master. I do with a cup of my, I feel like put my finger up. Dude, this is the gourmet shit you got for me. This is good. Is it good? Is it good? I shouldn't have wore a gray shirt. It makes you look. Actually, I look kind of diesel, though. No, you look great. I look diesel, no. Fuck.

So the TRT thing, by the way. One more thing about that. Oh, TNT's fun. What happened to Chelle Sun and what do you think of that? The thing is this, man, I'm retired now, man. And I'm on the mat. How do you, like, ingest it? Oh, I get a shot in the airs. Every. Yeah, I go to a legit place. No, how often? Not once a week. How do you need TRT if you have three kids? How did you pull that off?

Oh, no. What does that mean? I'm going to need testosterone. Yeah, but I got tested. The shit was low. I mean, I do. I have kids. I can have kids like this.

My wife wants another one. I have three, man. Happy Father's Day, by the way. Thank you. Same to you. Thank you very much. Are you going to have another one? She wants another one, man.

I don't know. My poor wife, though, with the TRTP. Oh, man. It changes? Oh. Really? I'm like a fucking. I never had, listen, this is the internet.

I can talk. Sure, sure. I feel, I'm a father now. Sure. I want to clean up my act a little bit. No, I'm not going to stop me. Okay. But let me just, I think it's a fair warning to tell everybody on the watching now,

the kids, just, you know, flick, flick for a second, you know, go to UFC fight pass or something. Let me kiss an ass to the boss. They didn't even call me when they're in Times Square. Unbelievable. Fuck, David, you lose my number? I'm offended. You're not.

I'm offended for you. No, no, I'm offended. I'm embarrassed. You're a shitsura and I'm offended. But anyway, I'm not really offended. I got a little bit. I'm in the city anyway. I'm hanging out of you.

And I'm here for a fucking good cause. We're going to get there. Can we get to the cause? Funraiser? This is how you do an interview. What were you about to say about the kids? What about my kids? You said the wife.

See what I mean about the goddamn? Oh, my wife. Oh, no, no. I think she wants one more. And I don't know, man. It's fucking crazy. I got three. It's great, though.

It's a good time. But anyway, no, I've been saying out the TRT. Forget about it. Not only does it, it makes you feel. And don't get me wrong. Like, I'm big right now. But I've been How much do you wait right now?

I'm like a fucking Over two bills I'll say that That's safe I'm gonna say that is safe Yeah yeah Over 220 But I'm like I'm pastaing protein

Like I feel like strong Are you working out Or is this just natural No I do a lot of dumbbells I do kettlebells I do pushups You're trying to get bigger You know what it is

I know I can't get any taller So I think I get like wider Sure Do you have a small man complex No I'm not gonna say I'm pretty I'm pretty proud of my height And I know no

I am seriously I'm not trying to be What's there to be proud of of your high? Like, I'm not proud of my head. I'm sure you're not proud of a lot of things with you. But the thing is this. No, no, seriously, there's insecurities with people. But with me, that's definitely not one of them.

And it fits me. Like when I was a kid growing up, my favorite comic guy was Wolverine. The guy was 5'3 in a comic. Don't get me wrong. You Jackman, great actor. You might not give a fuck about this. I don't.

They're heroes who are under anybody, little kids looking up, they're growing up, they know they might not ever be a basketball player. Guys, I mean, besides the whole alpha team, Alfa mail. Those guys are heroes to the guys on the 5-6

and myself also. But Wolverine was 5-3 in a comic, but that's not the point. The fuck was the point. I don't know. When we got it before, we got into the comments. You said you were proud.

Oh, dude, when I thought, listen, listen, there's guys out there that are going to be the greatest, finest of all time. They're in that category. I fought a bunch of those fuckers and I did well with.

Right. GSP, when I, true story, I squared off with them and then they did the little pre-fight introductions with us. with the touch of the gloves. I mean, I'm eye to eyes with his nipples.

And that makes it even more exciting and devastating when you make that upset. Because it's one thing, it's like, oh, the guy's an upset, but who's the upset? No, you look at the fight, you go, all right, that guy who's up to his dick. He's the guy who shouldn't be winning. That took it too far with that. But by the way, speaking of which, you know, Demetrius Johnson, he's the flyaway champion, right? Yeah. He gets a lot of heed.

People say he's too small and not interested. Do you kind of, you feel for a guy? Are you interested in a guy like that? Because what he's doing is so spectacular. He's a little guy, a little package running around. around. It's so, it's great. Yeah, you're funny, though, because you're like with the height thing, it's like,

if you feel his pain, the guy's a little short guy. Are you, are you more interested in that than John Jones? Am I more interested in? Yeah. As far as the time? I can relate to that guy because I feel, I'm saying, I'm putting myself in your shoes. Demetri's Johnson is my height. I'm talking Matt Tara right now.

Oh, okay. How tall is he? Yeah, I think he's like five. Let's see. Do you fucking. Okay. Are you saying that you don't like Demetri's John? I don't like.

Flywates? No, that was funny the other night, man. You watched it? Oh, that was like... I know what's funny, the other guy looked really tough, man. A lot of people say that wasn't fun. You know, people were leaving early in the middle of that fight. Yeah, but I think that's because they're from Canada and they were there for their boy, you know?

And that was a good fight. So you ordered all the pay-per-views. Sorry? You order all the paper-bues? You order all the paper-bues? You know? Five-foot three. What are you?

Five-six. Yeah, dude. No, no, but the height thing never bothered me, man. Dude, I mean, I torture a tall guy. guys on the mat. I knocked them out standing up. I've been with, never mind. I just, can you just keep it clean? The thing is this, the TRT. Holy shit, man. My poor wife, man, I got to, she's using the jiu-jitsu. She knows some self-defense because I teach her. Yeah. She's got to fight me off, man. That T-R-T, man, that gives you a jump start to your libido.

And I never had a problem with the libido. But turn this off, kids. If you're, if you're a young kid, turn this off. We're going to talk of grown-up stuff. But damn, you ever get that morning, like when you were like, listen, I'm going to be four. and I never had, I never had, like, you know, penis problems. I've always been all right with my, you know, my thing. No kids are watching this now. You should be turned this thing off. I already told you.

I never had con problems. Sure. But, dude, when you wait, when you do the TRT, I never had a problem with my con. I go, you know, I was always proud. But oh, fuck, man, you're 20 again. Dude, you could wake up in the morning. You could line up. Forget Walmarts.

Put a coconut in there. I'll fucking, boom. I'll break that thing open. Too far? Too far? Are we on air? No, no, not yet. I listen, but anyway, that's not the reason. So that's an extra perk for it.

Because guys don't talk about it. Like, oh, it makes you feel younger. Yeah, it makes you feel younger. It does. It's good. But, uh, well, you have to be on it for your entire life now? You know what? Man, I don't, yeah, probably. But you know what's good about?

Every week? You have to get a shot? Yeah, but it's part of my routine, man. Like, in other words, I got to go training. I teach in Huntington on this day. Sorry, there's an office over there. And they have a few offices. Is it legit, though?

Oh, legit, dude. I'm in the back alley. I'm not doing it myself. I'm in the doctor's office. And I'm, you know, I'm doing it like, professional. Like, they, how often do you go get a checkup? How often do you go get a checkup? Seriously.

It should be every year. Every year. I don't fucking go every year. And most guys don't go every year. And by the way, I'm not the TRD spokesperson now. Sounds like it. No, but my point, because I thought about it. And I'm like, you know, I like to enjoy myself.

I like the party. And that's what I'm talking about. But the thing is, I get a checkup. I'm crying again. I get a check up every seven weeks. They take bloods. They do this. All right, Matt, you know, your cholesterol is a little shitty.

They'll tell you this, that, the other thing, boom, boom, boom, I tell them, make sure you don't give me boobies. I don't want none of that fucking. You might have to have the surgery. No, dude. I told them going in, I go, dude. I fought my whole career without getting those fucking those Zach lights. Whatever you go.

I don't know what to attack that guy. But what do you mean by your whole career? That would imply that you were doing stuff to get that. Huh? That would imply that you were doing stuff to get those boobies. What do you? No, it doesn't testosterone when you get, you do that role. Sure, sure.

But you weren't doing that in your fighting career. Dude, never in my life did I touch anything. Really? You were a hundred percent. How many guys do you think are actually? I don't know. Me and BJ Penn, I don't know. Less than 10 percent?

I, dude, I'm not the guy to ask for the, I don't know. I mean, because I'm not in that circle. Like, my guy is, like, I never did it. Wyman is, right? Wyman is what? Clean. Oh, fuck, yeah, man. You can tell from the body.

I mean, I don't, test these guys. I'm sure they're fine. I'm sure he's going to pass every test. That guy's just a natural stud, you know what I mean? You're talking to, talk to the pride guys, dude. Why are you grilling me? All right. Let's talk about Live to Fight.

What is that? Oh, dude, that's why I'm here, man. LivetoFight.org. Tell me what this is. You know, I was looking to, uh, to give back. You know, I want to do seriously, I wanted to do,

you know, ever since I had kids, I'm like, you know, let me do something with charity and, you know, help out some people

that, you know, especially kids. I was looking to do a charity with kids. And then by chance, it was this girl, Chris and then one of my students, Norm,

they were doing this thing called live to fight. Live to fight. Is where you go to check it out. And it's about helping martial artist with, there is the flyer.

Look at the godfather on there. And then master hands up. Keep the flyer up there for a few more seconds. me. I'm sorry. That's unbelievable. What is that? You know? Why am I wearing gray?

But I bust Dana White's balls for wearing gray. That guy should wear black too. What's wrong with gray? Well, it makes you look a little more thicker, but... It does? Isn't that the effect that you want? Let's talk about lift the fight. Live the fight.org.

What is happening June 22nd? June 20 is about people in the martial arts world that have a sickness or disease or they're and even people in their families that have it. That's what this organization does. it helps people like that. And Trevor Baney is one of our fighters. And, you know, he's an amateur fighter with us over the Serra Longo team. And his father's got like a brain cancer thing going on there.

So it's pretty serious. So we're doing a fundraiser at my school at Sarah BJ Huntington. You can go to sarah bjj.com or you can go to, you know, Twitter is at Sarah BJJJ. It's in Huntington, Long Island. It's in Suffolk County. It's not fall. You should come down. No, I'm busy.

fucking heartless prick Um Anyway Dude so like from 10 to 2 To 10 to 12 We're gonna have Ray Longo do an MAME Oh wow Seminar and we got the whole

Serralango team But most of them are gonna be there Wyman? The champ? He's got a fight coming up. He's not speaking for him but I wouldn't be surprised if he made an appearance but I'm not he's got a fight coming up You gotta take care of business Trigo is definitely gonna be there

We're getting a fucking dunk tank bro Wow so yeah So after this seminar at like 4pm Is it bad if I go on that thing with a shirt Or is that like sissy? I mean You don't want to make people feel weird What?

Well, because people might feel Self-conscious that you look so good No fucking joking By the end of this thing Dude, first of all, where's my figure? Where's my action figure? And what happened to the champs? Yeah, John Jones

What happened to his? Eric, we have one. This is a big... No, no, this is embarrassing, man. Usually he has the toy out there for the guest. That's a mess up. You got, you know,

Mayhem Miller on there. A guy, he's shot. Guy fucking, you know. Not in backing. walks out on you. I'm surprised. I actually think your round five toy is the best one of them all. You pointing at the belt?

I like the Nate Diaz one. That's nice. What were we up to? Your name came up recently. But wait, hold on. So this thing, hold on. 10 to 2, 10 to fucking 12. Right.

Ray Longo, and if Al's got a corner of fight, but I believe he'll be back in time. L. I'm Quinta. Al Jail Sterling. I'm sure a truck is going to be there. I believe Eddie Gordon. Right. Ultimate fighter.

He's a good dude, Chuck. Yeah, he's a good guy. I mean, is he fighting this Wednesday? I believe he is. He's got to be coming up soon. Yeah, Eddie Gordon on the ultimate fighter. Yeah, man. Good, good, good working kid, man.

Good guy, dude. Okay. But, you know, so the whole Serralong goal team is going to be there. And plus, of course, Mr. Hensel Gracie. Going to be there. Going to be there. He's doing the jitzu portion. Wow.

Yeah, man. So, and how much is it? Fuck, me. Where's the prices on his name? You know what? But all the proceeds go to the charity, right? Yes. It's nice of you to research the,

Dude, fuck, man. The best is I called, I'm like, didn't I, did I, did I, did I ask to, uh, I'm not checking my text? But then I look at my phone again. Seems like it. How many texts? Why am I looking at my phone? Oh, I want to get the, let me, let me text about the prices. We have the, actually have the, you know what the people should do?

Right. They should go to, um, live to fight. Here it is. I got it. Yeah, give me the fucking. MMA seminar with Ray Longo from 10 to 12 this Sunday, June 22 at Sarah B.J., 365 West Jericho Turnpike in Huntington, New York, $55 in advance, $60 at the door. Then, from 1 to 4, a BJJ-Gee seminar with Henzo Gracie himself, $75 in advance, $80 at the door.

If you want to get both seminars, $125 in advance, $130 at the door, and all the proceeds go to this individual who's battling, as you mentioned, his father. I'll read you the quick blurb here. Trevor Bainey is a local MMA amateur fighter. His dad, Brian Bainey, has stage four brain cancer. Trevor fights in the cage, but his dad is now an even more challenging fight, the fight for his life. Please support the lift of fight for Brian MMA and BJJ seminars and help Brian win his fight. June 22nd, good cause.

Matt Serra putting his name on it. Yeah, ma'am. Good kid? Oh, good kid. Tough kid, too, man. Short guy like me. Is he going to be a pro fighter? Yeah, you know, he's got this going on.

and I guess after this we'll see what's up. But good dude, solid guy. And, you know, the seminar alone is going to be money, man. I mean, you got two legendary guys. And not only that, myself, my black belts, we'll be showing a couple of moves first. Because you never know, Henzel might be late. I'm only kidding.

I'm only kidding. He's not Nobo, is he? He's going to be there this weekend. Maybe he's getting into fights. What's going on with that? I don't know. What are you involved in that too? What are you involved in?

What do you think was in the getaway car? The other one. Is he going to be okay, though? I think so. I heard the, I don't know anything. I heard from people that that bounce is a real douche, but I don't know the guy. I don't know. Why is he going out on a Sunday night?

Huh? Why is he going out on the Sunday night? What are you fucking police in the world? What are you, why are you staying in on a Sunday night? You're not a fan. I've never seen a second. Oh, you're so fucking busy. I'm busy.

I just came back from Vancouver. I'm so uninterested. But listen, the Game of Thrones is a fucking good show, man. Why is it so good? Why do people go nuts? Oh, man, it's so good. There's the NBA finals last night. You didn't watch that?

Game 5. What now? NBA finals. Spurs, they became champions fifth time. You know something about that. Basketball? Yeah. It's kind of my first love.

You like basketball? I love basketball. Did you ever play? I did. I played in the Jewish Olympics, known as the Maccabi Games. Did you really? Yeah, I was the captain of the 1999 Pan American Canadian team. Really?

Yeah, I swear. So you're good on the court? I don't like to pat myself on the back. No, you just did when you brought up the whole fucking Masabi thing. Are you surprised? Because I feel like you don't think I have a lot of athletic ability. No, to tell you truth, I never really even thought about it. You did?

No, not much. You know, your name came up recently. Talk to me. T.J. Dillishab pulls off a huge upset. Oh, that kid's a nice kid. You were there, right? You know what's so upsetting about that? I heard the fight was so good, man.

You didn't watch it? You were in that? You know what it was? Al lost and I was fucking pumped out, man. You see Al's fight? What happened? He was looking so good in that first fight, man. In the first round.

Holy shit. And what a nice kid he fought. The guy was Mr. Serra and me. That's why it makes me feel a little bit. He was Canadian. Yeah, he came up to me after. He was a nice guy. Very nice kid.

I mean, everybody's, a lot of the most other guys are nice. But, uh, what is that? Tang? What are you drinking? What the fuck is that? It's a special sauce. Huh? It's a special sauce.

Yeah, the assners drink that. But fucking, ow, oh, man, he looks so good. That for it. It could have been, dude, knocked them down, just was all over him. His jitzu looked great, man. Mental mistake? No, I mean, dude, you make, it just, it's one of those things where

He got caught off balance. Is he overconfident? No, dude, you can't even chalk it up for that. And you can't chalk it up for, oh, bad luck. It's just one of those things where, where it, how it went down, where he got caught. If you look at it where it got finished, two feet more into the middle, he's getting out of that. He was pinned up against, when he got, when he got reversed. By the time he was in it, it was all like, fuck.

You knew right away? Oh, well, I didn't know until he got reversed. Because when Al took him down, he does a nice kind of like, fine. flu choke from there. So the guy, when the guy goes for like a guillotine and he is past his guard, a cross-eyed, he has some nice chokes. And his jiu-jitsu's been looking so good lately. That's what that really kills me because I've seen what he's been doing.

And if you watch that first round, it looked good. Like between rounds, normally it's like, listen, I was even asking, do you feel anything on the commo? Do you, nothing just keep doing what you're doing, man? I mean, there's nothing really to, you couldn't really, there wasn't a lot to really, you know, just keep to correct, you know what I mean, if you saw that first round. Yeah. So when he took him down, after the second round, he was going for that choke.

And I guess the guy placed it on from the bottom and then used the cage to reverse him. And then he was pinned up against the cage. And it is what it is. It's upsetting because he just won his last three before that. He was on a roll. With guys that you will argue. And I don't want to take nothing away from this kid. But if you put them all together, who's the top dog of that?

That Polish kid who foot Eves Edwards? Yeah, yeah. That guy's a tough kid. They were all tough kids, man. Even the other kid Clark that I'll just, I'll just, you know, he beat a lot of good guys, and he's one of those guys that we really feel that. Yeah, I fucking left after that. I was a little bummed out.

All of you guys? No, no, those guys stayed and washed, I think. You're the only one that left. Yeah, in fairness, my wife just got the 10. It was my seven-year wedding anniversary, but that's not why I left. Was she there? Yeah, she got there on Saturday, and then afterwards, we went out to dinner and stuff. So my point is, T.J. wins, and then we start talking about what?

the greatest upset? Is that the greatest upset? Your name always comes up. It still stands all these years later as the greatest upset. Do you agree? Do I agree what now? Do you agree that it is the greatest upset in UFC history? MMA history, perhaps. Yeah, you know, it's a weird thing, man, because if you look at it at the time, I'm going to say, I mean, personally, I was the guy in that, and it was like not a snowballed chance in hell of me winning that fight based on everything you've seen me do prior besides i guess minus the carroll fight where i did stand up some because i was actually forced to because i had a fucking a knee thing uh and i gassed out or whatever and ended up taking some a beaten but but before besides demonstrating some power i never solely even on the ultimate

fighter comeback after the carol fight i just outgrab i mean pete spratt i took down i i i i i i out positioned shone on the floor and beat him up and but i didn't really rely on staying in the pocket and that type of thing. And I never really just relied on that as that's what we're going with this, you know? So, I don't know. How different will your life be if you don't win that fight? And, you know, the ultimate fighter is what really did wonders for me. But winning the belt changed it all. I mean, if you would have gone to, look at Travis Luter. Of course, he missed weight, but he won the show and no one really, you know, you're a UFC Walter Ray champion. Great jih Tijuana. And he's doing well with his school. He has nice schools out. But your life would

be very different, right? Are you still banking off of that? I mean, he's a lot of that. I mean, Is it a bigger deal to be UFC Welterweight champion or former UFC Welterweight champion? Listen, man. You see, you have a lot of guys out there with the, they should have, and it's good. It's good to be driven, you know what I mean? Like, people come up to me like, oh, man, how come you're not doing something with TV or movies? I'm like, dude, if something falls in my lap, it's one thing, but I'm a pretty content guy. And that's not me to don't have a drive to do stuff.

But like, you know, the schools. How come they're not doing that more? I don't know, man. Oh, that was fun. for fight pass. Yeah, you know, I talk to Dana. I talked to Dana. He told me one point, and this was, you know, I had that surgery thing. And he told me, like, look, man, tell me whatever you want to do and just tell me, you know, I feel that if I was in a spot. I mean, Dana is such a, I feel like I got a good relationship with Dana where, like right now,

my schools are going well. I'm teaching. I'll do some seminars. I spend a lot of time with my kids. I'm very lucky to do that. And if I had all the money in the world, I would be doing kind of what I'm doing, you know, which you'd still teaching the beginners. I'm teaching you a Man, I'm rolling with the guys. I was just choking. I was just choking my guys. I was just rolling with one of my purples and brown belts before I got here, man. Then just jumped right in the car and got here.

Like, I enjoy what I do, like, on a daily basis. So it's not like I'm like, man, I'm stuck in this rut. If I can make a living like this, but you always want to do more. Sure. You have such a great personality. I feel like they're kind of dropping the ball there. Dude, I don't know. I don't want to see you behind the desk.

I don't want to see that. You should be doing more. You should be out in the fifth. No, no, dude. I, no, first of all, I did the UFC tonight thing. the guest host thing. Yeah, but that's not you. It was nice, but it was, I don't feel it was me either.

I really don't. You interacting with the guys? Like, I want to see you go to, you know, to, Tvon Rousey's camp and check. Those videos, I want to see that. Those, those were fun because you got the training aspect. As a fighter, you can get into the mind of another fighter saying, like, how do you feel when you're walking out, when you're in this? And then how does, like, I enjoy bullshit with other fighters.

It was good. It was money. Yeah, thank you. Why does it happen? Fight Camp Insider. Yes. What happened with that? We'll talk to Fight Pass.

I know the guys that Fight Pass. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. You can put a good word for me. I'll try. Don't do me no favors, buddy. It's okay. How much do you remember from that night?

How much do you remember from that night in Houston? Live to Fight.org. Sarah BJJ.com, but what are you saying? That night in Houston, UFC 69. What much will I remember of it? How much do you live it all the time? Do you think about that? Because not many people have that.

Would you say that's the greatest moment of your life? Am I going to be that kind of be like, but besides my kids? You know, my wife might hear this and be like, what do you mean? You have three kids. in our wedding day. But, uh, fucking, uh, I'm attacking that poor lady with the TRT. Sure.

But anyway, listen, it's a healthy thing. I mean, I've been waiting for seven years. Married seven years. That's it. I'm married seven years, but, you know, kids before marriage? See, I'm 40, dude, I did the right. I, not that I did the right thing. I'm 40.

My wife's 30. The fuck's the matter of me. Wow. Did you have kids before marriage? No, no. She's so old school Italian, man. She wasn't allowed to, as a fiancé, like her father, Ciro's right off the boat.

She wasn't allowed to even sleep at my apartment. as a fiance, man. I used to have to, I got fights coming up. She used to hang out. Sometimes we'd even take a nap or something that I'd drive her back at fucking two in a morning. So you respected that. Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is this, man.

I didn't think I was going to be the married guy. I kind of was doing this, doing that. You're going to fucking, this one flying in from wherever, Chicago, hanging out. I was having a good time, man, living at my school. Do you miss those days? No, I mean, listen, it's all about the journey. You've got to have good experiences.

I had some great experience. experiences. And then it gets to the point where you meet someone, you're like, all right, now, there's a certain point in your life where you're going to either veer left or right. Now, the left could be the married, the kids, and the family thing, which I'm doing now, which is a beautiful thing. You know that. You're doing it. And then there's the other route, which is cool. And I've seen it. I said, I'm sure you could be happy either way, you know. But when you get to around 40, I notice one thing with these single guys, okay? It's all good. The 30s, you know, you're hanging out with the younger chicks,

hanging out with some of the cougars. You've got the best of both. worlds and now all of a sudden you hit 40 now you're gonna tell this girl that's like 22 or 23 whatever is you're 40 and then that's just getting to the creep zone a little bit's getting a little creepy yeah so all of a sudden the youngest now you're like i don't want to settle down and all the girls at that age not that's i'm not attacking nobody i'm a big you know i'm not a big mill that came out wrong i'm big fan of the mils the cougars my point is this there's nothing wrong with that but now you want to settle down but this one has how many kids from a previous marriage this one's been through the ringer this one's a man hater and now you can't settle down

right away and the younger girls want that to do with you, you're not going older, you might want to have kids, now you realize you're not having kids, so what do you do? You get a dog. And I got a couple of my friends, and it's not a bad thing because these guys are a couple of black belt buddies of mine. They went that route and now they need that, around 40, what you do, you need

that unconditional love that you get from a child. That thing that is the most beautiful thing in the world. They don't have that, so I feel that they need that, so that's what they get a dog. The fuck is this going. This is some real life shit, though. This is true. But hey, let me ask you, seven years you've been with your wife.

Yeah, man. I'm a little concerned. Altogether longer than that. Oh, no. Because I'm concerned that she was a Johnny come lately. Like, you won the belt and then she jumped on the van wagon. Absolutely not, man. My wife, she started dating me.

Were you with her when you beat St. Pierre? Yes. I got a married. I was engaged already. I was with her. How about this? It's funny. I was engaged.

I got engaged and then I got the call to go on season four, the ultimate fighter. Oh, wow. Fuck. What happened? I'm awake it. It's a good thing. It's a great thing. But, man, it's almost like the beginning of that.

Because then you get waves of stuff getting thrown at you, and I don't have the best head movement, man. But you've got to kind of dodge it because they got a good. Are you good? Are you good? I'm a good boy. Yeah, I'm a good guy. But, um... They should do that again.

I think it's a huge mistake. But, you know, let me tell you about the comeback show. It was so much fun. It, not only was it a good show, but, uh, it held water, man. Like, like, the premise. I never really, I thought the premise was just, I knew that show was huge, man. When you ask, oh, man, that thing changed. Like, I knew just going on that show.

When I fought on the same card as like a Josh Koshek or somebody that was on that show after the first season. And I'm like, look at these, the applause. Look at the people love these. Because they know them. And they know them more. It's not the same now. It's not the same.

Now, people maybe give left stuff of shit or something. Think about how many ex-UFC fighters are out there. They could do a great comeback season now because there's so many XOUs. Back then it was a little harder to get a group of guys. Yeah, dude. Thank God. That show did so much for me, man. Like, it was so.

Did you even think to. twice when they called you up. No, and I was chubby when I got the call. Right. And fucking, and I was injured for a while after the carol fight. Like, I had a,

I had like a meniscus thing with my knee. And, uh, so I was out for a little bit. And then I got the call from Joe Silva, say, look, man, they think that you'd be good for the show and this and that.

So there was like a, I'm like, all right, it's like two and a half months away. Dude, I knew the show was life changing. I could see it. I go,

I look right away that you win, you get a title shot? Because that was the craziest part of the whole thing. Yeah, I knew, I got the premise. Crazy. But more important than that was the fact that the thing is this, there's two type of guys. Guys that like to put pressure on them.

And I look at it, it's all how you look at things, you know, whether it's the title fight, me walking out to fight George or me going on that show where you have to look at the worst case scenario. My worst case scenario, usually, now if I have to look at this, like, all right, man, if I have to look at this, man, I have to win this fight, this whole thing. And if I have to win the title and I have to win the show and it's putting the world on your shoulders, but I'm like, listen, man, I never normally have a boring fight, you know what I mean, ever. And, you know, and, you know, I'm a nice enough guy. I go, this will be good exposure

for my schools. And I looked at it like a six-week training camp. All I'm going to do is train, and I'm going to fucking get better with that and look at it, like just in train and get ready to when in my turn to fight, I'm going to fight. And I was in there. I made some really good friends in there, man, some guys I fought got real close. And Dean Thomas, even guys like Travis Sludo, Jorge Rivera. These are all good dudes, man. I mean, any of that neck of the Woods, we're chilling, man. I just saw Dean in Vancouver this weekend. I saw him working his magic in the corner, man.

He's a good dude. He's got a cool thing going on. I like this little scouting thing that he has going on. What is he got going on? He retired, and now he's a scout, so I can hire him. If I'm fighting, he's saying, I'm fighting Roy McDonald, put together the game plan. He does. It's kind of cool.

I think it's an evolution of the sport. I like that. Forward thinking. I'll support that guy in anything he does. He's a good guy, Dean Thomas. That night in Montreal was great. Wasn't it great? No, it was fucking shitty, man.

I got my ass kicked. But the buildup was great. the matter with you? Exactly. Wasn't it great? Why did you say, why did you say, the fuck? Why did you say the French?

Why did you have to say the Frenchese thing? Do you regret that? Absolutely not. It was so great. Don't take this. People take themselves so. Yeah, you're right. I mean, dude, I had Frank Trigg call me a foot stomping midget and this.

I was fucking cracking up. I missed those days. That was fun. It was fun. One of my favorite fights, Frank Trigg. USC 109. Oh, fuck yeah. Only because that was fun.

Yeah, that's the cherry on time. That's the cherry on time was that he came out with hair. It was weird. That was off playing. That bummed me out. That bummed me out. It was just weird. That was the only thing that's messed up because without it, he looked like that villain

from a movie. With it, he looked kind of weird. Like a Lex Luthor type. Yeah, like, it was like, almost like, what's the guy doing with hair? He looks better without hair. I'm concerned about Chris Wydenman. Why? Two knee scopes before a big title fight?

No, that kid, dude, this kid is. Is he okay? He's good. He's real good. No, ill effects? No, man. The kid's a fucking, the kid's a powerhouse, man. And he's got a determination like I've never seen before.

Did you really think he'd be this good? I know the video. You're the one who's most impressed with that. You're the only guy who brings that up. I love it. But did you really think this good? I mean, maybe a title fight here. Next time, let me know before I get here that you don't have espresso, by the way.

Yes. But come on. I'm running low on the gourmet shit. What is this? You want some of this? Get your tang away from me, bro. I had it since I was 12. But, no, Chris is a stud, man.

Chris is a stud. and I think this fight will probably just bring the best out of him. Will you be in his corner? Yes, I will. You're kicking out the old man, huh? No, I don't think we are, man. I don't think we are. I think he's in there, too, of course.

Should be. Big fan of Charlie Widman. That guy's, he's motivational in the back. He's a good dude, man. Maybe Valante gets the boot. Nah, dude. Listen, I don't know what they... Don't get into nothing weird.

Everybody's going to be in there, everybody. What about Draggo? I feel like he doesn't get the respect. Drago's awesome, man. Where's he been? Dude, Drongo, man, he's been hustling, man. He's teaching at my school. He's teaching over at Power MMA.

Right. Are you affiliated with that? With what? Power. We're good, but totally because you're a fuck. Well, I don't see your name attached. No, because it's not attached. I got my schools.

Did they cut you out of the deal? No, absolutely not. For everything you've done. You're such a cock. And people know you're a cock. That's why I don't even have to defend it like with a straight face. But no, no, no. That's a Chris and Ray's school.

But we haven't the alliance with the, those guys are, did this thing pick us loud? because my stomach's growling. I heard that. Did you hear that thing? What the fuck? What was that? What is that?

Are you, you're not affiliated? Dude, we got the Serolongo fight team and we love these guys. Can I do something very personal? Yes. Is everything okay with your brother? No.

And I don't want to talk too much about that. You don't want to. I got some issue. He's, listen, anybody. Oh, what's up, man? What is that? Is that for me?

That's for you. Dude, that's my thing. Get that guy on here. This is my favorite guy. He's the best. Thank you, bro. That's well right there. fucking...

Because I hear a lot. I don't want to get too personal, but I want to ask the source. I mean, anybody that has anything with any kind of... Anybody family that has to deal with any kind of mental illness knows what's up, man, and it's upsetting. Mental illness? Yeah, he's got some issues, man.

Oh, I didn't know that. But I'm not going to attack my brother on here. I'm not going to talk about him. Okay. In any kind of negative light, he's fantastic in Jiu-Jitsu. He's phenomenal. He's a phenomenal teacher. And he's got a very good heart.

And that's all I'll say about him. You know what I mean? Are you hoping to... repair a thing? I mean, there's this shit that's maybe going to be too deep and too personal

and what am I going to do? And there's no way sometimes you can defend yourself without hurting somebody else and I'm not gonna, you know, hurt anybody that's related to me, you know what I'm saying?

Can I ask you about Luke Kumo? Oh, fuck, man. Now you're just lining them all up. I mean, he puts out these videos. What's going on with them? Fuck, man. Do you still talk to him? I stand by the same thing

I just said about my brother. All I know is him and my brother talk, I think. Oh, really? I don't know. But you don't train with them right? It's a crazy world. No, when you get older, you just let to see things.

What a biggie small say with the whole more money, more problems. It's kind of like that with me sometimes. Really? You feel like people come out. I wish I had the more money, though. But it didn't change with Longo, right? What do you mean?

Well, you say more money, more problems, but I feel like you guys are still tight. I know, dude, like guys like my best friend at this point. Did Wythman change? No, Wyman's a fucking down. I'll tell you, man. You know, I told you before, like water seeks its own level. and that's how I feel.

Like, you know, you get a guy, you walk into it, you see a guy that's a bit of a cock, and then you see where he trains, and then you're looking around, and you're like, yeah, this whole gym doesn't got a good vibe to it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, then there's other guys, like,

are just really cool, and then you... That was your stomach? The fuck. Wow. Do you need a snack or something? I didn't need anything today. And I fucking espresso. You got a mussela restaurant?

I got one. If they got one, bring it. I don't want that. I saw it on the fish. And if I do it. I'm not going to eat that on there. Why? Because that'll be a fucking, that'll be on the internet.

Hold on, man. Wow. What were you going to say about why? He didn't change. Didn't change at all. What was I saying before that? Well, he said water and all this stuff. Water?

You know, you go to gyms and. The fuck? Are you even listening to your own shit? Yes. It's a matter with you. I feel like you're a sidekick. It's its own level. Water seeks its own level.

Yes. So, yeah. You go to gym sometimes before. The alpha male guys. I haven't met one of those guys I didn't like. And it's not because they're my height. But those guys are awesome guys, man. Al actually goes out there a lot and trains with them, man, and gets a lot of good work.

Who's your favorite fighter in the UFC, other than your guys? Other than my guys? Yeah, like, this guy's fighting on paper for you. I need to watch this fight. No guy like that comes to mind? Dude, I like a lot of guys, man. I like Damien Maya for his jiu-jitsu. You know, I love watching that.

Like, his last fight with Rory McDonald, even though he got a little gas, I guess his fight fought after that and won. You really keep up on this, huh? What? You don't think I don't watch the fights, motherfucker? I don't know. There's so many. I don't know if you have to plan.

You know what it is? I'm not to just be that company guy, but like, you watch Bellator? I do, yeah. I have to. It's my job. I want World Series of Fighting. You watch them? When I can catch it.

What did you want to say about Belator? I can't get into it. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's the production. Well, you know what's my problem with Belator. Your dick rotting ass. That was funny.

What the fuck was that? Best part of the night. So you watched that. I saw that. I did see that. The problem is there's too many events. You can't be on 13 straight weeks and think that you're going to have quality shows. Yeah, man.

If they spread out. I watch the UFC guy, man. I watch the UFC fights. I used to watch the pride back in a day. I'll watch everything if I know when it's on. Like, you know what I mean? But I always seem to know when the UFC's on. But like, well, like it's fraud.

But sometimes in Belethon, sometimes it's like you have like a, like a Chandler versus Alvarez or some. Then you have a couple of like fucking fat guys that are just like, like, Like, what am I watching? What is this? You can't get better than this? Like, what am I looking at? It's the bottom of the barrel. And no fucking fat joke.

Yeah, but you're fat Sarah. Hey, is it not Matt Sarah? It's, do somebody's guys with their fucking assault? I don't mind if it's an insult that's a little fucking witty. Like, one time I was wearing the alligator shirt. What's the fucking lacost? Oh, yeah, yeah. And somebody would be, like, all right.

Okay, that's okay. Somebody had a picture of me and it looked, dude. It was like a horrible picture. It was like me and fucking. me and uh me and uh me and uh luke rockhold or something and it just looked like i was looked really fucking he's really good looking oh yeah that's another thing that guy's a fucking that guy's can you take that spoon out of the cup is driving me nuts it keeps hitting the cup right there there's a spoon that's not a spoon so oh my gosh what's that noise fucking throw that shit on your

floor hey i have a really good uh i have a really good game you want to play this game but i'm about to finish one of everybody i'm about to finish what i'm on my shirt you just gave me a great segue But really quick. And then the guy goes, the guy goes, he saw the La Coss thing on my thing. And he goes, what's funny is that's a real, that alligator is like life size. I don't know. It was fucking funny. You know, because I'm so big.

What a fucking prick that kid is. I feel like that's a compliment. But he met it in a fucking Matt Serra, Fat Sarah. I mean, dude, some guys on Twitter. Fat Sarah is a great one. You like that? He was so fucking corny. I never thought of that.

Really? Matt Fow. I never thought of that. It's a fucking rhyme game. Is this something that you kind of been dealing with? Like, do you have a complex about it? No, I don't really give a fuck to tell you the truth. Nah, I don't.

I mean, it's funny. I have a complex in a sense where I'm one of those guys where I'm not taking my shirt off at the beach. What about the hair? Are we losing it up there? I don't think it's going. You know what's funny? I almost was late. I got the money fade today.

Oh, you do? Oh, you got a haircut today? Mm-hmm. And it's being covered up by the, uh... I get a, uh... Wow. I get the fade. Yeah, I guess it might, you know, I keep it tight.

A little bit. I keep it like, I keep it tight. I get the money fade like every week. I get a money fade. Oh, it's the chair making that noise. Try not to sweat. No, that might have my stomach again. I didn't eat anything today.

Okay. Yesterday was rough. Okay, yesterday was rough. I'm so excited. Fucking Father's Day. Oh, yeah. I mean, I go out to eat with my kids after we bring the soccer ball out and we have a good time. What did you?

Dude, my wife, I'll tell you, I think it goes back to the whole thing with my charm. Oh, yeah. I got charm. Wait. And you know what the problem is, man. So you just let the kids sit outside? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, it has nothing to do with me my fucking TRT erections.

What are you saying? What are you fucking getting at? You just said my wife? I'm trying to say my wife tries to keep me chubby. Like, oh, no, you can eat. Have a chocolate cake because it's fucking Tuesday. I mean, she doesn't even have a, usually this like Sunday or so yesterday it was a double whammy because it was Father's Day. So we went out to eat afterwards.

And for dessert normally, if I'm trying to do the right thing, I'll be like, I, yo, cut me up an Oprah and muffin or something like that. Toasted up. It's not that big. Posted Oprah and muffin. It's not this better than a fucking chocolate cake. Sure. Sort of.

But I went with the chocolate cake yesterday because it's fucking, I even said that like a fat guy, like a chocolate cake yesterday. Because it was Father's Day. And sometimes if there's a little bit of doubt in your mind, you have the person next to you that, that's why I like to have Drago around when I was getting ready for fights. Because Drago's, he can't lie. And I'll just be like, dude, I just want another protein bar. You know, he'll just be like, yo, fights three days away.

I wouldn't do it. Why would you do it now? And I'm like, that fucking makes a lot of sense. She's so fucking simple, but it's fucking true. And so like my wife, if I was a little doubt in my mind, like, with the chocolate cake, and then we're watching Game of Thrones. Season finale, you're missing a lot with this. So season finale, you don't give a fuck.

You're looking at your fucking computer. Anyway, I don't want to eat during that show. I want to watch the show and enjoy it. Maybe I'll have a fucking little protein bar. You want a chocolate pop tart? I go, no. Wow. I go, no.

I don't. And I fucking had a half a fucking, I had a whole, Pop-door. I was going to say, I didn't have a puff-ard. Why am I lying to you? Yeah. I'm crying again. By the way, where on Long Island do you live? Strong Island. Where do I live? Yeah, I'm thinking of moving. Town? I'm thinking of going to Long Island. I live in Massa pizza, man, Massapequa. I heard it's called matza pizza for the Jews and Italians. That's what Mark Lamonica told me, you know? Do let me do the jokes, right? You please just, Mark Lamonica is a great guy. Don't ever do that to me again. Don't ever do that. But, you know, I love, I love. Massafiqu is good.

It's stuck between two school. I lived in Woodmere a while. Me and Rodrigo Gracie had my first apartment, man. And we lived in Woodmere, which is... I think that would be good for you? Which is a lot of people. Jews? Oh, oh, it's a Jewish area.

You know, I have no problem with that. I have no problems with Jewish people either. Look at me and you. We get along good. Okay, you said you're hungry. All right, this is what I'm getting at. I didn't say I'm fucking hungry. What's your favorite dish?

What the fuck are you talking about? You said you're starting. What game are we? Is this the game? Yes. I'm setting it up. Oh, we're playing a game. First of all, really quick, before we get into this, why am I here again?

Live to Fight.org, seminar. I could celebrate. It's a Sunday. This Sunday. Great cause. You know, 10 to 12 is going to be Ray Longo and the crew doing a nice MAA fucking seminar. I'm telling people what's going on. Don't worry.

Keep going. Make the pitch. What are you doing? Playing Candy Crush? What the fuck are you doing? This is called promotion. Go ahead. One to four is it

One to four Ten to twelve Ten to twelve is your part One to four is Henzo You're fucking You're really you're really batting a thousand with me today I'll get back on fucking What's like how you're talking to be here

I'll give the one I'll give the answers like the guy you had all before me Fucking manhood Do you feel fighting three times in one night Compared to no All right next question Yeah man you got to respect that here it is There it is right there

Um Live to Fight.org 22nd. That that does. 365 West Jericho Turnpike, Huntington, New York. So it's this Sunday.

This Sunday. 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. with Ray Longo. One to four. With Master Hanso Gracie. And then the dunk. And then the dunk. Yes.

And then we have a dunk tank. Dunk tank. Dung tank. Can I just show up for the dunk tank? Yes. Yes, you can. I don't want to train with you guys. I'll get my money.

Yeah. You don't have to show it. We're all right. We'll be okay. What's your favorite? What's your favorite food? I like pasta or like pizza. I mean, a high five with it?

Yeah. I want to play a game with you. I want to play a game with you. Because I feel like you're a concert. You're an aficionado. Oh, okay. And I, you know what that means? Oh, an expert.

What the fuck, man. A lot of people might not know this, but there are maybe, maybe. Talk to me. 300 different kinds of pasta. Oh, man. You know that? Different names. This is interesting, though.

Right? I want to play guest the pasta with you. You know what was good? Maybe I get some free shit. Dude, I'm excited about it. I'm not going to dance with you. Oh, my God. No what I'm getting flashbacks off?

No what I'm getting flashbox off? Flashbacks? Carlton. No, no, no, no. Of you? You have no shame, do you? No shame. We didn't start the fire.

Oh, you saw that. I saw that. And there's some, and after watching that, I'm going to shoot myself if this stays on. I swear to God, it'll be on air. That does just a preview. This will quickly become a fucking snuff film. All right.

This, after watching you sing, is there a little, could you put up the, could they put up you singing the? No, no, no, no, we don't have that. Are you serious? What the fuck out of the production is this? We burnt that. Look at this. Look at this. Look at my guys.

Oh, you don't have that, but you got a fat, Mattie-S. Oh, my gosh. Look what the guy is. Dude, I don't it look horrible that? Someone just tweeted me. Let me get the guy's name. I get the fucking thing off there, you cock. I got to look at that.

Sarah and Longo together. Where is this, by the way? You're keeping it up there. Hold on. Hold on. I look powerful. Don't worry. Don't you can see.

That was at one of the UFC fights, I think in Boston. I think it was in Boston. And someone got that? Yeah, it was on the UFC. It was on a UFC website. Horrible picture. Oh, it was on UFC. Horrible picture.

Guess the pasta. I'm going to show you a picture. I want to see. Did I get cut off? were we talking about something? Oh, well, there's trying to keep. Oh, we didn't start the fire remix. You can't play in that really quickly.

You do a little clip of it? I could do it live for you right now. Do not do that. I realize they have to watch in that. M. M.A is on fire. It was always, you loved it.

You have to practice out a lot? No, I didn't. The fucking fist pounding it. Yeah. This is almost like the fucking, this is fucking brutal. No more high fives. Listen to me. I'm going to show you 10 pastas.

Oh, okay. And I want to know. But you have to tell me like what kind. Here we go. We're actually starting right now. You have to turn around. Turn around. Turn around.

Now, this is the premise of the game, Matt. Yeah. All right. Ten pastas I'm going to show you. But you have to tell me, like, what time? Can I just tell you something? I don't like anything with the, don't put green on my, I'm not looking at this. Why?

Eat the fucking green out of there. Give me a red sauce. Give me even a fucking alavanka. I'm not going to, I'll throw that on the floor with your fucking toothpick. Really? I don't like that. I will not eat that. But I just want to know, that that's just a kuchermal.

You see what I'm saying? That's just a kutermal. So what are we looking at? It's either an angel hair or a Capulini, I think. Am I off? Or did I get it? I got it. It's a fucking A.

What was it? Angel? Yes? What the fuck? I got it? Fucking A I got it. Do we have a bell or something? Can I get a ringer?

I did good. Wait, but... The fuck, how is that hard? What are you out of your mind? Capolini is the safe thing as angel hair, by the way. Oh, dude. Seriously. Good.

Then I'm... White's right. No, is it? Capulini is the same Zangelo? It is. I'll give you the official definition. It's the thinest type of long pasta. It means thin hair.

One for one. One for one. One for one. I feel good about this. What do you think of that? Dude, what the fuck, dude? I don't, what is that? Look at the sides.

Look at the side. What am I looking at? Look at it's baked. Look at the sides. Look at the top left right there. It better not be a lasagna because it looks disgusting. Wrong. It doesn't look like my type of pasta.

You're not going. I'm not going with any. What is this? What is that? A pineapple pizza? I don't want this. Does it pizza? It's not even a pasta. No, it's not. Look at the sides. Look at the tubes right there. Oh, Medagardi, you prick. Wrong. What is it? What is it?

Canaloni. You got me on the canaloni. He's not a big fan of the canaloni. Cataloni is large, stuffable. Seriously, guys? What is that? What the fuck? fuck is that? Bob Sapp?

Dude, he's got the sexy look on, too. He's doing an old sexy thing. What is? You listen to this? Are you making fun of this poor guy? It's generally served baked with filling and covered by a sauce. All right, let's go to the next one. That's easy.

Oh, it's the... Oh, man, you can call these anything you want, though. No, no, there's a name for it. There's a fucking name for it. Come on. The spiral fucking... What are you called? all these things again.

Squeakly Wigglys? What are you? It's the fucking, oh, it's so easy. It is an easy one. No, I mean, I know what the fuck it is. Silly people like it. Oh, uh,

oh, dude, can you please, could you please not use your fucking puns in my fucking game? I try to help you. Can you please not do it? It's, uh, oh, man,

let me see one more time. I don't know. I don't know. Fusili. What? Fucilli. I'm not guessing that. You don't know Fusili?

I mean, I fucking hate it, but I'm not going to... Wait, you hate it or you ate it? Oh, I hate it. I don't... I'll hate it like that. You put it in a marinera sauce. It's a corkscrew-shaped pasta that may be solid or hollow. Hollow Fusili is also called Fusili Bucati.

People are two in and out. Could we get to the next one, please? Wait, I just want to tell you something. The word Fucilli presumably comes from Fuso as true. Traditionally, it is spun by pressing and rolling a small rod over each thin stripe of pasta to wind them into a corkscrew shape, much like modern Turkish spindle. Okay, there it is. Okay, let's go to the next one. So uninteresting.

That's easy. Oh, fuck. I got it all of my ankle. Son of a bitch. Because you got the thing behind me, like a fucking booby trap. Could you send in the hippie? I'm sorry, dude. He's a nice guy.

I like this guy. He's got long hair. He's not a hippie. Could you send in the rocks law? Can you got a bounty around here? You got any fucking clean them up? You can turn around. It's the flat one.

It's the Fettuccini. There you go. Come on, man. I mean, I made a fucking mess here. Ding. I'm sorry, bro. You heard the ding. Here he comes.

What's his name again? Will. Will. Hey, Will, I apologize, man. It's, uh, I thought he was coming in. No, that guy's going to use the can or something. I thought he's, I take it back. Can you get me of, I know the list of me.

I see him in the next room. A ribbon of pasta approximately six. I'm sorry, dude. I don't mean nothing by that. There you go. 6.5 millimeters wide. Are you okay? I'm all right.

I'm all right. I kind of... Oh, gosh. I'm crying so much. If I had an espresso, I'm not saying that... I'm not telling you your business. Are you having fun?

I'll leave it. Want me to leave it a mess? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go to the next one. Okay. Here we go. Wait a second. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what the fuck that is. You don't know what that is? Looks good. It looks fucking... Why do you have the nastiest sauce on all these? How about everything in a red sauce? I don't know what that is? I don't want to play this game.

Really? Puppardelli. Oh, Papadelli. Come on, get us something else. What else we got? Before you start, you're going to read how it's made now and lose more listeners? Come on. Okay, this is an easy one.

This is a super easy one. There we go. Come on. Oh, fucking elbows. What? I call them elbows. Is that the fucking elbows? What the heck is elbows?

This is what we call them elbows, bro. What is that? Dude, do you have different types of matzes I can play with you? You're a fucking, this is actually. Actually, this is like racist. It's macaroni. I ever do with macaroni. Okay, that's called, it's a bench two.

Don't you understand? An Italian American, it's all pasta. No, no, no, no, no. There's different kinds. It's all, no, no, shit. Picture on this one, kind of, but you get the point. No, I don't get the point, dude. I don't got fucking, I'm looking on your little screen where it's clear, not this one.

And on a little screen, it looks like penny. There you go. I know, I'm done with the high fives, bro. Ding. It's fucking awkward. Medium length. It's awkward. It's awkward.

Cut diagonal. at both ends. Okay, here's a big... This is one of my favorites as a kid growing up my mom would put some cheese on this. Beautiful. My mom kind of grew us up

like Italian kids. A lot of pasta in our lives. That's why a lot of people may not know this about me. I'm actually an official out of myself. We're learning today that I know more about pasta than the authentic Italian.

What about this one? There we go. You love this. It's the bow tie pasta. This is all, I can say... That's the official name. I don't... You know what?

I don't care. I call it bow ties. Look at it. Farfali. Now you're just being a show off. You don't even, you just research this. This is the game, you have a meter play? This is the game.

Boatire, butterfly shaped. Okay, two more. Here's a big one. Oh, that's an yoki. Yeah. I love yonoki. A yon yokee. Dude, could you please?

Have you ever been to Italy? Oh, my wife does that all the time. I have a daughter, my daughter, Maria. Yeah. She's like, Marri. I go, this fucking, she's pronounced it like. No, I'm not going to pronounce it like that. It's Maria.

Why? Have you been to Italy? No, I've got to Italy. You never been to Italy. I got to go to Italy. It's beautiful. Yeah? You've been there.

People, What the fuck is that? They're a little. What is that? Maybe they sniffed you out. They sniffed you out, though. I recommend it. I have family in Milan.

Milano. One more. One more thing I'm not interested. Oh, this is my absolute favorite. Talk to me. If you give me this, my final meal is this. Tortolini. Yeah.

No more high fives. It's fucking awkward. We did it. That's it. That's it. We're done. Yeah. Well, that was the game.

Right. What else he were talking about? You didn't enjoy it? You kick me out of you? No. We got to ask. Are we almost done? Are we answering some questions? Wait, wait. I want to know how many you got right. Let's see if you at least got over 500. You got Capolini. You didn't get canalone. You didn't get Fuggini. That's two. You didn't get Patertini. That's two. You got Macaroni. That's three. You got Pena 4. You got six of ten. And I knew. And first of all, do I care? And second of all, does bomb sap? Does he do covers? Or does it do his own thing? He does covers. That's wild, man.

He does a little bit of both. You want to check it out? Do we have that in the thing? Yeah, I'll listen to that. We don't have it. We don't have it. There you go. Shall we answer some questions?

Is this supposed to be you on that thing? This is me. That's you? The moment I find is realized they're in the UFC. Did you know that you made it? Did you know that you made it when you saw this looking at you? What happened between you and Dana? Are you guys good?

Yeah, we're good. Don't get all nervous. No, no, we're good. Good. Look, you have to understand something. When you ask the tough question. At the end of the show, around 4 o'clock, which is right now 410, we like to answer questions. We're going over, right? The M.A. hour, which is literally five hours. It goes till around 435. We like to answer questions from the fans.

Let's do it, man. I thought it would be fun if you went on. Oh, that's very, that's a lot of fun. Okay. Do we have any questions, Mr. New York? Did you meet New York, Rick? The guy at the long hair? No, no, no. He's the other guy with the short hair. Nice guy. He kind of got a little bit of a face. You got the three amigos in there. Nice guys. Think about New York Rick.

I challenged him to a fight. I said, not me against him. I said, I want, I'm going to set you up with the best trainers in the world. To fight who? Amateur fight. Just do it. Prove to me that you belong on this show. The number one show out there in MMA.

And he didn't do it. Sapo reached out to him. Henzo reached out to him. They all wanted to train him. Corner him. Would you corner him? No. I don't know the guy.

Yeah. He seems like a nice guy. If he needed me, we'll talk. You know? The one thing about what we do with me along always, man, we like the guys that we corner. Yeah. If there's some guys that just...

Have you ever had a guy that you cornered and you said, and he didn't hit the road? Sometimes there's not good chemistry there and whatnot. Who comes to me? I don't know. Guys that aren't with us anymore, you know? But, you know, some guys are just hard to coach. What happened to that kid that kind of let you down on the ultimate fighter?

Joe Scarola? Yeah. I just started talking him again recently. Not a bad guy. Just started? It has been like seven years. Wow. But you know what he's doing?

You held that grudge for that long. not even about holding a grudge. I don't even remember what happened. First of all, Joey's a good guy. He's a very good black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. He has a Gracie Baha school in New Hyde Park. I'm plugging for the guy now. Look at this.

He's got a Gracie Baha school in New Hyde Park, and he's doing well for himself. That show made him grow. He's still with the same girl they left the show for. You're kidding. So there you go. It was worth it. It's one of those things where things happened for a reason.

But he's not a bad guy. That show brought out the worst of him. Did he ever fight after that? No. No. But he competed, I think, in jiu-jitsu and stuff. He was not made for the M.M.A. thing, but good jih Tzu, good instructor. Yeah, the dude, they play up.

That's it. They, you know, it's, they need drama. And that was definitely digging, it got brought. So it is what it is. But he's, he's doing well for himself. And he's a nice kid. And, you know, I'm happy for him. He's doing good.

Open the lines of communication. No, you know, I think over the course of time, it just, but, you know, it's, you know, he's doing his own thing and I'm, you know, doing my thing. But, I mean, you know, he used to work for me and stuff. but things happen for a reason. He's got his own school. He's doing okay. Does he use your name?

It's all good. I think he's going to be out there. No, no, he's got Gracie Baja. He's one of those guys. Okay. So it's all good. So you buried the hatchet? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Have you ever sat down and rewatch that season just for fun? You know what? It's just like a fight. You kind of like, the fights that I've lost, I might have watched a couple, how many times to see the mistakes. But you don't want to relive it because it's like, it's a very,

you know, these highs and lows in this game. Season four of the ultimate fight, I watched that like a motherfucker because I won Season six, there was some good memories on there, but that wasn't fun for me. That wasn't fun with him on there and what went wrong. And so I never really watched too much of that again. So what about Mark Lehman? What about him?

He's doing good. He's with Jimmy, uh, Johnny Hendrix. You still hold a grudge? No, I don't have any grudge with him. He's doing, I'm happy for him. I'm not that guy. You know what I mean? It's not, it's not good to, uh, I know I'm saying like half the hippie.

To have hate in your heart. No, it's not good to walk around just, or hating on people. And I mean, he's with, uh, with Johnny Hendry. and Johnny Hendricks seems like a really nice guy. Can I read you an amazing quote that I got? You know, you know, here it is, okay? What's that? Here it is.

Kenny Florian put this on it. It speaks to what you were just saying. Oh, and don't, I got to bring up about Kenny Floreen. Go ahead, go ahead. What a fucking amazing thing with him and that Hanato. Oh, Larange. But when they did the thing with the De Niro. Oh, my God.

You have a lot of time on your hands, eh? No, no, I mean, I usually, you know what I watch this? I have an iPad? You have an iPad? You have an iPhone. My phone. You cheap cock sucker. Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

I'm 40 years old. I'm a child. But that's a good one, right? I don't even know what you said. Why you sweating so much? No, why? Because I trained and I realized I didn't have deodorant. You didn't take a shower?

No, I showered. Okay. But I didn't put deodorant on, so I think I'm definitely sweating. Does it really work that much? Like, it stops that much perspiration from coming through? Am I sweating? Well, I'm wearing a great. Oh, fuck.

That was bad. It's a great shirt. I don't give a fucks to TOT working. But anyway, what was I going to say? Let's answer some questions. Fuck you. Can I talk? Interrupting?

Listen, no, really. The fucking Kenny, I must have watched it. I like good comedy. And that thing was done great, no? It was okay. Oh, what I do. Sometimes I think, sometimes I think just to make an interesting little argument or something, I am who I thought that was, and there's some stuff the other guy does.

And it's some stuff's fun, some stuff's not that great. But that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, both of them were amazing in that. I watched, Longo's a big fan of it. What about that guy Prebeck that does the cartoons? Tommy Toho? No, no, the other guy. The cartoons with the voices, Prebeck, the one who's been on my show, he does the impersonations.

You've been on an episode when, uh, Segal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He liked that guy, yeah, yeah, yeah. He liked Toa Hoa-Hole better? Why did he got to do that with my chin on that? Yeah. It's not that. the fucking prick.

I don't like that. What's going on here? Do you have a scar? I got a lot of scars, man. But right here, it's like, or is it just like the double chin has made such an imprint? You really are so close to me right now. Like, just arms length.

Even with these little arms, be careful. What's your reach? Don't, get back to the point where it is. The double chin, the height, this and that. There's a, you could, you could, I'm a tongue-in-cheek type of guy. Your forearm is gigantic. Now you know what you're doing. Because you saw that for a split second,

You saw that glimmer in my eye where, oh, shit, he's not just a clown. And you saw a little bit at Joe Pesci moments saying, dude, how am I funny? And then you said, all right, let me get the race car out of the red. So you saw giving compliments again. Do the right thing. But anyway, what was I up to really quick? Let's answer questions. The fucking Kenny Florian and Hanato, whatever.

Dude, that was fucking great. He's good. He's talented. That was great. Where could they watch that? I just type in Kenny Florian, Hanato, La Ranja. I bet you if you're watching the show, you've seen that. I mean, it's a certain kind of fan that's watching.

watching the show. Good, good, good, good fucking scene. Yeah. All right. Do you like his hair? Hey, dude, I thought, ooh, ah, dude, he did a fucking great job. Yeah, get us. Let's answer some questions. Let's answer some questions. Is New York Rick there? I'm here. There he is. This is the guy who didn't answer the bell, so to speak. First question. Jason High. Weird. Do you think it was wrong of Dana to release Jason High without looking at footage? And do you agree that it is similar to the infamous Paul Daly incident? Now, do you know what happened with Jason High? He pushed the ref? He pushed the was it a big push or was it you didn't see it i thought you watched the fight i did watch that fight i just didn't that didn't stand that money footage we have the footage let's see it this fantastic

i'm sweating under my fucking here look look look look look look look look look look look there it is there it is there's the shove here it is again so he gets up questionable stoppage pushes the ref get out of me get off me what happens right after that he walks away yeah what why does it go let it go let it go let it go let it go oh come on because that looks like that looks like that looks like that You stand off and like, what do you think? Just seeing that, is that a fireball offense? You do shit like that. You kind of make an example of the guy saying that you don't put your hands on the

ref, you do it. Boom, that's what's going to happen to you. Suspension, fine. Is it getting cut, though? Because here's the thing. I'm sure this is not going to be like a pole daily thing. That's what they said. Yeah, but you know what?

Listen, I don't know. I don't fucking know. I'm not Dana. Look, you come on this show to answer questions. You don't sit on the fence. Tell us how you really feel. All right? You want to be an animal.

I'm answering. I don't want to be an animal. analyst. Where do you get that from that I want to be an analyst? Don't sit on the fence. Don't be scared. No, no, no. I'm scared of what? What are you saying? I'm just saying. Tell us how you feel. Do I feel the guy should be suspended? I don't, can I say I don't give a fuck on this show? Because I really don't, I'm no offense to the guy. I'm sure he's a nice guy. He was on the show earlier. Good for him.

Is he a family man? Here's the difference. The thing is that you know you're not supposed to touch a ref. You don't think there's times where you want it with. I'm getting stood up, but I get Chris Lytle down and I like Herb Dean. The second I get down, he's like you got to work. and next thing you know, I'm stood up in my first fight. What do I do? You're going to push the guy? I mean, the fight can stop. Obviously, you're emotional, but you got to make it, you know,

if you're the guy running the business, make an example of the guy a lot of times. And you've got to know that going in. Dude, I don't know. How many fights do I have? You don't think I want to push a ref or smack somebody? Here's the thing. If you get cut from the Steelers,

you have 29 other teams that you can go to, if you get cut from the UFC. There's other organizations out there. It's not the same. The thing is this. He gets cut, but I'm sure this is one of those, I mean, he does the movement. type of things where I'm sure the guy

could work his way back. How many guys said that they're not coming back and they're coming back? Paul Daly, I believe it's a different example. That was... What's worse? What's worse? Oh, Paul Daly's way worse than this. Oh, fuck man. He fucking... He clocked him, this is a heat of the moment type of thing. It was like, everything's rotting on this and

oh, and he probably regretted it right? Well, I don't know. He did. He did. He apologized right away. So, I mean, I think it's a totally different thing. But in these type of things and you're running a big thing, you're trying to get... Take over the world globally and whatever. So, I mean, you've got to set examples, you know, and that's what this is. I'm sure this guy will be back, though.

He apologized and he fights somewhere else. I'm sure he'll be back. He's a young guy. Yeah, pretty young. It's been around the block, though. I'm sure he'll come around again and be back on if it's meant to be. All right. What, where we go?

You know? Here we go. Your thoughts on people leaving the arena during the main event of UFC 174. Also, do you think it bothers Demetrius Johnson, even though he said it didn't at the press conference? You're a champion, you're fighting, main event, pay-per-view. People start leaving. This is not like the Knicks are up 25 in the fourth quarter. A lot of people left?

It was like ridiculous. It looked a little weird. You got to understand, man. I mean, the other guy at the co-made events, he's the hometown guy. It's fucking in Canada. They're probably drunk by then. They watch their boy win in a good fight. DeRoy and McDonald's a fun.

Of course it is. No disrespect to him, but you got to look at, if it was in his home down, if it was somewhere in a neutral ground, maybe you'd be like that far, by the way. He's from Seattle and this is Vancouver. Yeah. Just outside.

What am I fucking Christopher Columbus? Where is that? It's fucking, where is that exactly? Pacific Northwest. Let me ask you find him to be entertaining. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit, man. He's technical as hell, man.

Oh, that was like, uh... He's a power-for-pound guy, right? Yeah, oh, I think so. I thought that was a fun fight, no? I mean, what do you think? What do you think so? The Arlowski fight? I thought that Demetrius Johnson fight was good.

Oh, tell us how you feel. It was fun. The Oloskey one was kind of blah to me. Do you think he was tentative? Do you think he was afraid of? Yeah, I think he even. said it. I believe he even said that he felt nervous. Who won that fight? Let's be honest.

It's not enough to complain about. Really? I thought Brendan won the last round with the takedown and whatnot. But the first two, I thought, were close. I don't remember. So it wasn't a robbery. No. No.

Brendan should have done more. Did you see his face? The fuck was he, chewing on a golf ball? What the fuck was that? Who do you watch the fights with? It depends. That one I watched at my phone. You know what it was?

I was in North Carolina. And I was doing something with the troops there and hanging out with, stepping some of science. And then I did a seminar out there with a buddy. They still sponsor you? Yeah, man, they're good people, aren't they? Wow. Yeah. And science are awesome, man.

It's nice that they still remember you, yet UFC, EA sports, nothing. Not even in the game. Forget about Times Square. Am I not in the game? Seems confirmed that you're not. People are going to be upset about that. Yeah, they are. Okay, what's the next question?

Like myself and nobody else, but. People asking about Demetrius's performance. but also about a rematch between Demetrius and Dodson. Do you think Johnson is on another level? John Dodson, you know him? Yeah. A fantastic win a couple weekends ago in New Mexico. Little guy.

A little firecracker jumps all over the place. They fought once on Fox. That was a close fight. That was a good fight. In fact, Doughton won the first two rounds in a lot of people's eyes. I remember seeing that one thinking, where's that going? But again, who knows, I might have too many shots of Grapper at that point. What's that?

You know what Grampa is? Oh, man. Is that a Greek thing? No, no. My father-in-law, he makes the homemade wine, and he makes the homemade grampa. Home-made, where? In his fucking garage. It's the garage.

Don't you ever have a license to do that? Dude, don't be a fucking fun police. Will you stop? Do you just... Do you get along with the in-laws? Oh, yeah, yeah, very much. It's not weird? No, not weird.

Well, sometimes there's friction with the in-laws. No, no, very cool, very cool. Me and my father-in-law is right off the boat. He likes me. From where? He's from Italy. Why don't you go with him back to Italy? I don't know.

Don't you go fucking... What are you saying to me? I'm just saying that you should take a family trip. You got three kids now? I will eventually. Let's go visit the roots. All right. Right at the Disneyland.

So what do we got next? What's the question? Okay. Next one. And by the way, for the record, I think that fight has to happen. Demetrius keeps saying that he wants Dotson to get back in line and win a few fights. Yeah, but who else is in line ahead of him. And the thing is, there's a lot of, there's a heat.

There's an issue there. There's a friction there. And Demetius needs some, you know, you can be the first. You know what it is. There needs to be a Frazier to the Ali. You know what I'm saying? Everyone needs a dance partner. I was always more of a fan of Frazier as far as his fighting style.

But that's cool. But everyone needs to work. Look at Anderson and Chale. Yeah. No, no, let's do with you. Of course, man.

That's why I feel like they dropped the ball and not making GSP Sarah 3. Why didn't they do that? There was one one. It was one one. Make the third fight. No, but I lost, man.

You lost the second fight. You won the first. Yeah, but the second. one wasn't good. I didn't like this. That was a shitty fight. Yeah, but you were hurt. Back injury? Whatever. Okay, at least a rematch with Hughes, they dropped the ball. Let's go to the next question.

Yeah, let's go. Here we go. Let's make it less weird. Is Rory's personality holding him back from being a star? Being arguably the biggest Canadian star in the UFC, Rory is obviously an important part of the Vancouver card, but let's face it, Rory is a bit of a weird dude. Unlike many of the other fighters we've seen on UFC embedded, he doesn't come across as relatable or even likable.

Can he ever be the next GSP to Canadian fans? Should he embrace the Canadian psycho character, what can he do to grow his fan base? He's not likable, I think he's kind of likable, no? He seems like he's a nice kid. He's so different, he's likable. But what's wrong with that? I think different is nice, man.

You don't want to be a cookie cutter. I mean, fighting is a very unique. I like when he goes with the Aries thing, I think that fits his... I think Canadian Psycho is cool. You know the American Psycho? Yeah. He's that guy. But Ares is like, it reminds me.

He's like, yeah, it suits. You're a comic book guy. That doesn't resonate with me. I don't know. It's like a God thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's a guy that's all business. And I

enjoy Washington fight. When you see him, do you think GSP 2.0? Like, do you think he has that in him? Is he that good? I think they got different type styles and what. And I see what GSP's explosive like with his grappling,

is grappling in MMA, especially his takedowns and his ability to close the distance without taking a beating and and his ground control and ground and pound. He's a different type fighter that it gives him less of a chance of losing, if that makes a lot of sense. Well, the other guy will be up there standing up longer. You know what I mean?

He takes risks. I'm not taking a shot at Georgetown. You changed GSP, though. Yeah, but it's a foot of better as far as his career, though. Well, he won. If I didn't catch him, somebody else probably would have. So, I mean, there's only so many times you could fight like that where, I mean, we were in the pocket a lot.

Are you happy that he beat, or at least in the judge's eyes, that he beat Hendricks so that you're the last guy to still beat him? Yes. That's nice, right? I'm going to be honest. Don't get me wrong. That fight was a close. I thought it was going to the judge's score come on. I'm like, the other guy did more damage, but round for round, I thought it was closer than people think.

I don't know. I saw it once, dude. I'm not going to sit here. I think McDonald, back to the question is a fascinating character. I don't have any bats in the cave, do I? I'm on TV. We need more guys like that. What else we got?

wrong decisions have marred some fights lately how do you feel about the fighters being informed of the judge's scoring during the break between each round what do you think nah that's fucking stupid why the guy would be like yo you're scoring not because then the guy would like yo you're up just fucking stay away and it's not you know you need to not know to make a stamp on shit you can't be like

listen the judge's got you lose in 10 the guy be like how the fuck did I lose that round 10 9 or 10 that's can I play devil's advocate if you're playing any of their sport, you know, going into the fourth quarter, you know that you're up 20 to 10. This isn't any of the sport in the fight game. And if you get it too much like that, it's going to be a lot guys just trying to play through the score cards when they should be trying to finish the fight. Can we agree, though, that the 10 point must system is wrong. It's flawed. I mean, listen, pride, if you look at it like that, but then it becomes more of an opinion,

like pride, the way they scored it back in the day with the, they rule it as like a whole fight. I mean, that's pretty cool. I mean... But it's so subjective. I mean, what are we looking at? It could be subjective, exactly. So I think until something comes out better, I think the 10-point must system is a must.

I don't know. No, but look, if you watch boxing, a guy gets a knock down, you know it's a 10-8. In our sport, you don't really know what a 10-8 is. You don't know what a 10-7. It's so subjective. Something like that should be a little bit more clear.

I think points. You get a take-down, you get this many points. You go for a sub-attempt this, you get this many points. Then just add them up. Have a scoreboard. Ooh, if I do this, I get a few more points. does, again, whenever you make more stuff like that, then you can be like, all right,

now you can win this. Now, listen, just let them up and just keep winning by taking them down because you'll get more points. And no, dude, two guys enter. One guy's got to try to take the other guy out. Keep it like that. It's more about the fight as mentality

than it is changing anything else. All right. What else? Pros and cons to a GSP return. If GSP were to return to the 170 division, what sort of impact would it have? UFC would have a pay-per-view starback and Hendricks versus Z.

GSP too would probably be a huge pay-per-view and sets up a trilogy. On the other hand, the 170 division right now is a story in itself. Rory's performance lit up a rather dull event, and with challengers lining up at the moment, do we really want to see GSP clear out a division again? Can I just say one thing before you answer? I'm sweating under my tithies. There's a big movement right now on Twitter. Yeah, a movement of what?

For you to be a permanent co-host of this show. Co-host? What am I your sidekick? Am I rob it to your fucking Batman? They're saying. You know why? Because we're fucking killing it. We are killing it.

No, I'm no more fist pumps. No, no high fives. What about your own show? What about your own podcast? Something like this. Yeah, I'm going to hook you up. You're my first guest for sure. Yes.

Okay. Go ahead. GSP. Wow. It's going on my belly. Thunder. It's going on my belly. You want to get some Montecoady after?

Canaloni. Gizente. What are we up to? GASP, I knew you. GSB. How about this? How about Matt Brown becomes champion?

I think GSP comes right back. And Matt Brown's a stud. But styles make fights. It all of a sudden he's like, I'm feeling good again. He's fucking going back in. He takes him down and gets the bell and gets the fuck out of Dodge.

I think George will probably come back if the situation. I don't know. Also, he had ACL surgery. So that's a big guy. George is such a nice guy. When you see him, is he nice to you? Oh, he's fucking great to me.

Couldn't be nicer. George is, you're talking about people that shit get to the head. He's a good guy, George. He was good in Captain America. Did you see Captain America too? I have no time for that. You're such a fancy pants.

Go see a movie, relax. I can't tell you the last time I saw a movie. I can't go. Go after me after this. Let's go. You think I have time for that? It's 4.30. I drove in.

I drove into the city. I got here pretty quick, man. I got my money fade at, um... In the city? No, at money, at my buddy Dexter's place. DJ cinema. He sells a fucking, I'm plugging him. DJ cinema.

He does these fucking... Bootlegs? I don't know what he does. but yeah he does and he's also my fucking ball but man, Dex, he's good. He hooks you up with DVDs? Yeah, yeah, he does the right thing. But anyway, I went to his place

he's not even in the shop today. I went to his house, he fucking gave me a money fade. Wow. This was a big deal for you. This is like you being on the Tonight Show. I like the money fade though. Yeah, but you said to him, look, I'm going to be on the number one show.

You know what Chia Pet is? Yeah, Mike Chia Petta. Don't, can you let me? I get a fucking finish on the joke. Can I get the layups and then you hit it? It's not a layup. the uh chiyah pet after a one so it's growing out you ruined my whole momentum

I used to have a jufro I used to fucking I used to have Do you ever see the picture of me from fucking high school What the fucking Were you a ladies man in high school? Like did they? Yeah I did it right Yeah I did okay

I did okay You know I broke a few haunts More about the personality though right I don't know man I don't think I'm a bad looking guy I'm looking at myself now It's kind of weird

But you know when I was younger I might have you know You know I already had the charm The charm's there. You know, and girls like that. They like a sense of humor. It's not all about being fucking tall, dark, and handsome. Trust me, I know.

You know, short stocky with a good sense of humor. It's not a bad thing, you know? War Machine, he was on your season of the ultimate fighter, right? Speaking of which, someone's asked me what you think about him. I like him. I like them back then. I think he's a good guy. You follow him on Twitter?

I might. If not, I will. He's interesting. But I'll tell you right now, he got better from the show, man. I think he looked good. I didn't see the one he lost, but I saw one where he won, and his hands didn't look like that on the show. You still keep tabs on those guys? Danzig?

No. Just retired Danzig. I mean, guys, I'm cool with. Like, Matt Arroyo, who was on my show, was all my season on season six, and he stopped down with a few guys. Like, if I'm in Florida, I'll hit him up or something. He's a nice kid.

I was saying earlier, by the way, and we'll get to the questions in a second, but I was saying that they should use people like you, in particular, as the coaches for the Ultimate Fighter. I don't like when they hold up champions now to do these shows, tape the shows, air the shows, and then we don't see Anthony Pettis for a year and a half.

They should use the legends. You don't need to fight at the end of the show. Who needs that anymore? Yeah, but you know what, man, now you got all these new champions, now you get to know them better. And people, you know, you know, like the back end.

Some people want to know what Anthony Pettis is about, you know, him and his brother, and then you have Gilbert on him. Melendez is finally going to get some good ad. That's a guy I enjoy watch if I eat, yeah. I enjoy that whole camp, yeah. El Niño.

But I enjoy him. Yeah, I do very much so. But, you know, the Gilbert, man, that guy's going to get some airtime that's much deserved, man, because that guy's been around for a long time, never in a boring fight. takes chances, and I'm looking forward with it, actually,

that season of the ultimate fighter. All right, next question. That was it. That was it. That was it. All right. Look at that. Here, here's some Twitter comments, right?

What do we got? Matt Sarah, please smack Ariel Hawani for even attempting jokes. That was garbage. By far, Matt Sarah is the best in studio guest on the MMA. Bang! Who else has been in here? Nobody. Go ahead.

I can't be the only one who wants Matt Sarah as a, the permanent co-host for the MMA hour. Bang! Oh my God, OMG, you should have Matt Serra on your show every Monday. Best guest of all time. Hilarious. What else? Best interview ever.

Wow. We get a lot of that when we're together. Yeah. Yeah. I think it has a lot to do with. Me. Not what I'm only kidding. Dude, I think, you know what our show could be called?

It's funny. Mata pizza. Shit, man. It's hard to deal with this. But let me tell you something. A lot of it has to do with chemistry. Sure. You know?

You can't deny it. You know, because, you know, I'll do another interview somewhere else and the guy I'll look to be a little funny and then or else we don't have the same chemistry. Don't get weird. Fucking. You know, look at me. No more high fives.

Send me two questions on Twitter. We'll answer those and then we'll call it a day. What do you say? Fucking hey, man. You want me to send you questions? No, no, no. I'm telling the people listening right now. Let's do it, man.

Is everything okay with you in Miller now, Mahan Miller? That was awkward. That show was awkward. You felt bad? I think you reached out to me and asked me if I was okay. I think you're full of shit at this point? No. Did I say that?

that to you? I think so. He actually gave me that as a token of his affection. Oh, the shirt. I was looking at him bowing. That's my favorite picture of all time. Really? That's cool. You see this? That's him after he beat Sakaraba. I'm not like a mess. Him bowing after he beats it. That's what MMA is all about, right? That's nice, man. How that? That's, that didn't look closer. This was taken by Estra Lange. Saka Raba, man. Sometimes, me, Sakarab was such a stud back in the day, man. You don't think that's a great picture? I think it's a great picture, man. I think it's a money, money shot.

Look at the light. It almost feels like his soul is going up to heaven. Now I'm looking at it really just in a disturbing way. But he's doing okay now? How's he doing, Milla? He's doing right. You know, he's making a comeback. Oh, in fighting?

Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Well, he's so young and he had knee problems. He's really good in Jiu-Jitsu. I've seen him compete in Jiu-Jitsu, and he's really good. He had a lot of knee injuries. UFC. And he's buddies would rampage, so he's probably doing something over there.

What do you think of Tito Ortiz? That win he had. I did an ultimate insider that show that you liked. There's one that didn't air. Oh, really? And it was me going to Big Bear with Tito. Oh, it was a good one. What happened?

I don't know. They didn't air it. They probably don't want to get that guy more pressed. Which fight? It was before he fought Forrest, because I did Forrest. I did Forrest in Vegas, and me and the crew, we drove from there to Big Bear. And we did a fight camp inside would him. It was good, man.

It was a funny. It was a funny time. I mean, I'm like, dude, I don't, I'm, I'm sitting at that place. And I'm like, like I said before, there's guys like myself. Yeah. I don't have a tenth of the money that T.O.T.O.T. has. And I'm still happy to, I'm happy to be living. You could always look at it like, dude, I want more.

I need more. I want this. I want. But, dude, realistically, man, I got a beautiful family. I'm doing what I love every day. I'm helping people. I'm teaching martial arts. I have a good life, man. And I have it because of what I did in the,

time I put in with the fighting, and now it's given back to me, and I enjoy my life, okay? Then there's other guy, I mean, I'm up at Big Bear, and I'm looking at Tito, and this guy's still bitching about, like, you know, oh, you know, and there's a picture of me and Chuck, but we were never friends, though, and I'm like, oh, fuck, man, like, he's got to thorn up your ass up. I pass your fucking bends or whatever the fuck I pass on the thing, and I'm in Big Bear, and I'm like, dude, really, what could you, some guys are just not going to be happy, no matter what you got. God, they really need to do that show again.

I thought the show was good. It was so great. Yeah, me and him. Imagine you going to see Demetrius Johnson. It would get his personality. I don't think. This needs to happen. You need to contact the UFC.

You need to contact fight past people. We need to make this happen. You know what I think, man? I think if I ever was in like a tough spot, like fuck, man. All right. So I'm at my schools and I'm at a tough spot. I do feel I could make that call today. Like, hey, dude, could you help?

And I'm sure he would help me because he's a good guy. It's just good to keep you out there, the brand. Yeah. Is it maybe because you don't want to travel and you're not telling us. Do you know why I'm here, though? Lift the fight. Dot.org. A lot of people say this question.

Here we go. We're going to go rapid fire, okay? Let's do, bang, bang. Do you think John Jones is real or a fraud? What does that mean? Do you think his personality? You know what's funny, man? I've always dealt with John Jones,

and he's always been a nice guy to me. I mean, he's always been cool. But, dude, you know, you put yourself in the guy's position. He's how old is he now? About to be 27. Oh, dude. I mean, and he's thought, and how long has he been champ now? Three years.

Dude, I mean, you'll see $1.28. Forget it. I'd be a, I mean, I, I, I, I mean, I'm not the same. You're actually like growing up on camera, man. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so put yourself in the guy's position. Everybody has good days, bad days.

Everybody's not going to say the right thing. So with the social media, one thing you say could be, oh, now the guy's cocky and this and that. It's just, you know, give the guy a break. I think he's a nice guy. This is an interesting one from someone named Edward Kim. He said, I met Matt with Frank Mears camp at UFC 119. Well, this is weird.

Okay. Saw him partially naked weighing in. What is that? I don't know. And then you were hashtag scared. Moving along. Matt, would you take Ariel down right now? No.

No. You think this guy's not going to press your own? I'm seriously. Yeah, seriously. Would you coach tough against Hughes? That happened already. Yeah. If Chris Wyman beats Machita,

do you think he'll be the biggest pay-per-view star in MMA? Quite possibly, yeah. Are you planning on creating Sarah fit with your new physique? Tell me, kids. Give me that guy's things like a block of fucking wise. Have you ever played the game F. Mary Kill? Yeah, for sure. Someone's asking you to play.

Oh, that's fun. Ronda Rousy. Oh, come on. Don't do this. Don't do this. I see these girls. Okay. I don't want to do that.

I'll tell you, though. I don't want you to do that. No, I would never do. I'm not going to do that. But I think they're all. Yeah, they're all great. What the fuck is the, what are I? I don't want you to get in trouble.

I don't know. What are you think I'm going to say? I'm fucking all. What's a man? I'm married guy. dude, I'm not going that route. What do you think of... They're all beautiful, and I think they're...

I love watching all them fight. Are you sad that... Not in a creepy way. Chris Iboard? Yeah, she's awesome. Are you sad? Chale Sunday retired. Yeah, I like Chale.

I think Chale brings a certain... You know, I like... He's fun. He's a good fighter, first of all, and he's funny. He's pretty, and he can be coming up with some witty stuff. Yeah, it's funny. Would you ever compete in an ADCC super fight against someone like Mario Sperry or Henzo

or some other legend? And that ends, though, stupid stupid fucker It was an example. Would you ever do that? ADCCC? Possibly. Yeah, something like that. Meta Morris? Would you do that? Possibly.

Possibly. Yes or not? Well, I don't know. The Cheta makes it better. Well, the thing is this, man, if you do things purely for money, your heart's not into it, you're not going to represent yourself the right. If something with competition, like if you said, would you ever do acting? I'd say, maybe. Maybe I'll try it. Maybe I wouldn't. I don't know.

It's not really on my bucket list. But if you say, would you ever, like, fight again? Probably not. Would you ever do a grappling? I have to feel it. If I'm, if I'm like, I'm missing. You're not itching to do it right now. No, no, I'm having a good time right now.

You're 40 on T R. I'm working with, T R.T. I'm attacking my wife. Hanging out of my kids. I'm fucking, you know what I mean? Should the UFC cut back on the number of its events? No, no, let them keep taking over the world. Of course, you say that.

Well, someone's asking if you like time to talk about. cause would I say that? Well, I mean, let's be honest. Let's be honest. What, what exactly? They want you to go to the DS camp for an insider segment. I'd love to if that happened. Those guys are great guys. And they're very respectful. They are. People think that they listen to that. They're listening to that.

They're very respectful, man. They're always been very solid to me and very respectful. And I think they're good guys, man, you know. It's called live to fight. Liftafite.org. This Sunday. You know, it's a fundraiser for a great cause. The girl who runs it, her name is great. Kristen, she's a fabulous girl. She's doing a lot. She's working very hard to get this off the ground.

Let me tell you about the cause for this Sunday. Trevor Bainey, local amateur MMA fighter. His dad, Brian Bainey, has stage four brain cancer. Trevor is someone who fights in the cage, but his dad is now an even more challenging fight. He's fighting for his life. Please support the lift a fight for Brian, MMA, BJJ seminars, and help Brian win this fight. Fifty-five dollars in events, $60 at the the door for a seminar with Ray Longo, 10 to 12, BJJ, Ghee seminar with Hensel Gracie, one to four, $75 in advance, $80 at the door. Both seminars, $125 in advance, $130 at the door. I have a question. Hi. How come there's no, no, no, no, I'm going to be, uh, I'll probably be helping out with

Henzos. I think I have a few my black belts there, so probably guys will show a move, a move, move, but Henzo's definitely the theme. Right, right, right. But what about the first one? Oh, yeah, I'll be there, you know, with Longo. I'll probably be there as like heckling how Longo. I feel like there's something going on they cut you out of the power of MMA deal. A hundred and ten percent, no.

And it's kind of, it's kind of, I'm a father of three. I don't want to use the word cunty. It's a little, when you say stuff like that, you say you're a shit stir, but really when there's no shit to stir. I love right Lago. Longo is like my best friend.

Chris is, I know his family. He's a good, good, solid dude. We have the fight team together and the fight team trains at both schools. We work, you know what I mean? I have a bigger cage at my school. So Chris is going to be utilizing that a little bit more, uh, uh, you know, for this fight, too. Like, he's got to hurry up. The fight's in like two weeks. No, no, he's been there and whatnot.

But I mean, it's, it's a, it's a team effort. And for one cause just to make sure this kid gets the best work you can get it. What if he'd say to you, you know what? I feel like I've gone as far as I can go out. I want to go train with Faraz. Dude, I don't have any, dude, I'm not, you're definitely talking to the wrong guy with the, um, you know, I'm not having any constraints on anybody. I'm not no fucking. But, you know, if it's TriStar. Yeah, dude, I'm not, dude, you're looking at the wrong guy. All right. You can't you just, you know how you be happy for people and you want people to get along and do the right thing?

I understand your job. I understand your job. And I understand it's more fun when there's a little bit of shit to stir. But don't try to do it within a camp. I mean, these are my bodies. He's my friends. Sure. Why do you do that?

365 West Jersey. Why do I got to reprimand you on there? That's why you don't want me as a co-host. Oh, it would be great. Would you do it? Absolutely not. But listen, the thing is this. 365 West Jericho

Turnpike Huntington, New York Tickets can be purchased at www.org or East Coast MMA fight shops. Where are those? That's nice. There's one in Rockville Center for sure. Where's that?

Long Island? Yeah, it's fucking Strong Island, man. It's right near Woodmare where you're going to be moving. Should I move there? You think it'll be good for the family? It's nice.

Yeah, for sure. What else was I going to say? Sarah BJJ.com. That's Sarah UFC. His face is hurting from laughing so much. That fucking guy gets a the free Sarah t-shirt. I said that to one guy on there

and the guy keeps handling me. Nice guy. But I mean, don't make me send the thing out to you. If you visit me, I'll send you, I'll give you a t-shirt. Oh,

last question. Hi. What's your favorite pizza topping? Oh, no. I'm more of a cheese guy. But I'll tell you right now. I'm just straight up. Yeah, I mean,

I'll throw some oregano on it. But the thing is this, yeah, I'm not a mushroom of meatball guy. I'm a green olive pineapple guy. At Phil's Pizzeria in Massapica, and also at Umberto's has a nice one. But Phil's

pizza has this thing called drunken Sicilian. Oh. And it's the Sicilian. Look, dude, I get excited. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited too. I get. That's not good, dude. That's sad.

I'm the same way. Trust me. No, you're really not. The thing is this, drunken saulia sauce in a Sicilian shell. Oh my God. Wait, that's pizza? I was about to do the...

That's pizza? It's fucking pizza, but instead of marinate or instead of tomato sauce, they got the alavacca sauce. With shells? No, no, with a Sicilian shell. A Sicilian crust, you fuck. Look at you with the capillini

and the big of... dude, you're fucking Sicilian shell. Everybody knows what the hippie in the back knows what I'm talking about. Shell? Who calls crust shell? It's the shell of a car. No, you're, you're shredding into waters. You're getting into deep water. You don't know what you're talking about.

Is it safe to say you don't want this to end? Like, you haven't had this much fun in a long time. I'm sorry, I'm checking my Facebook. Are we still going? Yeah. What are we doing? Listen, this was really fun, dude. We're going to do this again, probably never.

But the thing is this. Finally, five years into my show on the anniversary. The fifth anniversary. This is the anniversary? Dude, let me tell you something. It's good you're giving back to the people that kind of actually helped get you here. When you watch me now, because you put a big label on me, you said Howard Kosell, when you watch me now, do you feel like, all right, I was right to attach my wagon to that horse?

He's living up to my own hype. He's doing well in my eyes. You know, I could definitely say I'd give it that much thought, but I'd be lying. The thing is this, though, I am proud of you. I'm happy for your success. And I hope that things get better with you and Dana and everything. For a while, you were worried that you attached your wagon to the wrong horse. You should have gone maybe a different race.

out. No, again, once again, didn't give much thought. But the thing is, I am happy for you. If you were really worried, why didn't you reach out to me? I reach out to you all the time. Remember what you? You got to Jose Aldo. Where's my figurine, man? I don't believe this. That's a realistic one, that picture. Kane, or the nose? The fucking nose. Hey, remember when there was a rumor that you had passed? Yes. That was weird. And I was in Puerto Rico. And I called you. I was the first one I called you, right? And that was before. No, that was after I had. Wait. Was that before or after I had my surgery.

I'm not sure. Where did that start? Oh, no, that was bad, man. I don't know. Did Luke Homo start that? He might have been. That was bad. That was scary.

That was scary, no? How did you feel? Did it make you think about your own mortality? Oh, when I had my rib taken out? No, no, no, I mean the... No, the rib taken out, that one made me. That was scary? Well, I mean, I had blood clots.

That guy died from blood clots. That thing traveled from my arm to my lung. So you're missing a rib right now? Yeah. Is it just a hole? No, no, man. Well, where's the case? It was up here because my collarbone and my first rib were, my collarbone and my first rib were constricting one of the veins and causing blood clots.

So they had to take the rib out to open up the floor so it breathes better. Is there a scar? Yeah, it's in my armpit. Go ahead. Take off your shirt. Let's see how it looks. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something.

Kaylee's Cursey or Breal of Tarty from Game of Thrones. Oh, ask that again. What do you think about this? Black Belt, Hawani. Awesome. Where'd you buy it? Meta Morris gave it to me. For what?

For being me. It's nice. Okay. I don't know who these people are. Kalyse, you know what that is? Kaleisi. Kalee. Kriol, Kriol.

No. Krizi. Kersi. Oh, yeah, she's the queen. Sersi. Sersi or Briel of Tarty. Oh, wow. Oh, this is a fun one.

Am I missing out of something? Say it again. Say it again. Circe Cercy? Calecy? Calecy? The guy didn't use

comma, so I don't know where's the name anything you're starting. Calisi's one. She's the dragon queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a real nerd. Circe's the one who's fucking her brother. Okay.

Yeah, she's hot. Wait. She's hot. A person is sleeping with her own brother? You don't know what you're missing on the show. It's Lord of the Rings on steroids, titties, fights, everything. Circe?

Wait, I'm missing one. The huge chick who guarded Jamie Lannister So it's fuck Mary. What is it? How did it go? Fuck Mary Kill. F. Let's just say F.

F. is kids watching. The kid shouldn't be watching my episode. F. Mary Kill. F. Mary Kill. clean it up. Will you please?

F. Mary. Cercy. All right. All right. This is what I'll do. Okay. I will F. Cersie.

I need to see some pictures. I'll Fersie, but I'll hate Fer. Okay. You don't. I'm going to hell. A 40-year-old man. Circe, I will hate F. Okay, not just F.

She's a blonde, right? F could be like intimate and like you're holding, looking at each other. No, it has to be a hate F. Right, right, right. You know, so it's like violent. Sure, sure. I would kill the tarf girl. She's awesome.

Tarf? She's the big girl. She's a tough. She just... Brienne? Yeah, yeah. Brian. Brian.

I would kill her, not because she's a bad person. Okay. But she's tough. Right. She kills guys. So that'd be a fight. You have to preemptively. That'd probably marry the, uh...

This is not for you all, right? That's fucking Hodar. That's a matter with you, man. Okay. It's a dude, man. I don't know. I don't know what you're into these days. He's not in this.

No, not him. And whatnot. Yeah. Dude. So, yeah, so, so, so Searcy would be the hate F. F. I'd marry the king. I'd marry the dragon queen because there's got to be some eff in there too.

Sure. I'm married man. I'm just, I'm just interested in effing. I'm just having it out my wife. I'm making love. but the third and then I'd kill the other one because it'd be a fight and it would be good shit dude I just you lost me now well you mean because you're not you know you're reading a question you don't know what it's about that's a great answer that was not bad no that was the hippie by

the way thank you he gave me a thumbs up my son right we're good anything else one last dude you know live the fight dot org yeah Sarah BGJ dot com holla that's it man come out and visit me this week a dunk tank dunk he's to dunk me there it is maybe we get right oh my god maybe we get Ray Longo won that thing. That would be amazing. Can we don't Grilongo? Can you film it? You want to want to show it here?

I have a great. I'll tell you about this off there. I want it to pitch you something, but I want someone to steal it. Someone's going to steal that shit. A great idea for you. Thank you very much. This has been a lot of fun. All right.

Yes. Get the fucking high five. There he is Matt Sarah, the one and only. Check him out on Twitter. Twitter.com slash Matt Sarah UFC. He's not in the UFC anymore, but he's still sticking to that name. Am I in the UFC game? Are you sure?

I'm not in the game. They didn't invite him. The game comes out tomorrow. Will you buy it? I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it for my guys that are in it. I think I have a better chance of being in that game than you at this point. Fuck.

Yeah. That hurt? Who's it when you were like this? Who's the ref in that fight? Big John McCarthy. Remember when you did that? What a good time, man. What good time.

What good memories. Yeah. Sometimes I reminisce like Al Bundy or if you watch Game of Thrones kind of like Robert Barathean. When's the last time you watched that fight in its entirety? What was it? The GSP fight? Yeah. I don't know.

How long ago? I don't know. probably a long time ago or last week. I don't know what it was. I don't know. Whenever I'm feeling down. Have your kids seen it? Yeah, they see the ones I won.

You know what I mean? How old are they? Well, I made the mistake of one time playing the old video game. Well, my five-year-old, she was like three at the time. And I got beat by John Fitch in the video game. And it's so realistic. And they show me in slow motion. And my kids having a heart attack.

Daddy! And I'm like, oh, I shouldn't. It's very realistic. It's very realistic. I have five, three, and one. Wow. One. Yeah. One.

You're a big changer of the diapers? Absolutely not. I got this weekend, though. Oh, I changed the pull-ups. Does that count? And I, you know, I'm wiping asses every day. But not with the very little ones, but this is a problem. My little Sophia, I'm watching her this weekend because I think they're taking my kid to Aladdin or some shit.

And it's going to be Daddy Daycare, man. Maybe Uncle Drago will come over and it's going to be. That's cool. You want to come over with my kids? 100%. No, no. You're not invited. All right.

But listen, man. Thanks for having me. Pleasure. may be wondering why we're starting the show an hour early. We never do this. We don't do it for anyone, except for one person. We only do this for one person. He told me he can only come at this time, so we had to change everything, accommodate him,

because when the Ream tells you he's available, you change your schedule. And here he is in studio, back and in living color, the victorious Alistair Overeem. How are you, sir? I'm happy and good to be back here. Yeah, first time in this studio. What do you think? It's kind of a change. Yeah.

It's a little smaller, I believe. It's a little smaller, but from the back, it's a little bigger. It is? Yeah, like that. That waiting room was pretty small back then. Wow. You don't like it. It was smaller than the one before.

Yes, that's true. And the studio is also a little bit, there's stuff lying around. That wasn't there before either. Yeah, but no one's a little more tidy. Yeah. You were more organized. Wow. So you don't like it.

You think this was a downgrade? Personal change. Yeah. It's not that I don't like it. But, you know, that stuff over there, no one can see it. So just try not to it. Yes, you see it. Elder sees it.

Yes, that's true. We are being joined by Elder, the creator of the Ream in the studio right now. And the episode, the last one going into the UFC 169 fight, was great. But I want to thank you for stopping by because I know, what do you think of this weather, by the way? Snowstorm outside. Well, yeah, it's a little bit chilly. Yeah. I was a little bit bummed because my plane got canceled because I want to go back to Miami, the weather, warm, heat.

I'm not really a winter person. Right. It's nice for a week. But then you get fed up. Did you go to the Super Bowl? Is that why you stayed an extra day? No, I just wanted to chill a little bit because otherwise, you know, you have to pack your stuff in quick, quick, quick. And I was like, yeah, I'm just going to want to take it easy.

So I'm going to stay another night. Did you even watch the Super Bowl? Do you care about that kind of thing? I actually did. You did? I went over to some friends. And it was very funny how we got an invite, come watch the Super Bowl. We ended up at this, yeah, kind of, what was that actually?

Like a private party thing? bowling alley. Yeah, I saw your picture on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, it was funny, funny, unique spot. It was a private bowling alley. Yeah. Wow, look at you. Weird, in an apartment.

In an apartment? In an apartment. This is a real high roller. Well, I don't actually know whose place it was. Let me tell you something. In New York, space is kind of at a premium. If you have a bowling alley in your apartment, you're a high roll. There's only two lanes.

Only two lanes. Okay, so then, yeah, she's probably four. And by the way, did you know that you started your show one hour early in vain because my playing are canceled. I know. I'll just start one hour later. Well, thanks for telling me now while you're sitting here. Yeah, sorry.

I just found out myself. Well, it's good to see you here. Like I said, it's good to you in good spirits. 48 hours later, you feel good about the win? I mean, I know you said you played it safe and all that we'll get to it, but you just feel good to be back on track. I feel good to have my stuff sort of gym. The foundation is there.

I feel very optimistic, very positive. You know, there's been a lot of change. We've been for a lot in the last two years. And now I feel like there's a solid foundation to build up. How much was the losing streak weighing on you? How much was it bothering you that you, you know, you look at your record, two losses in row, this is something that you're not used to in the last few years? No, no, no.

For the last six years, I've been winning. I was undefeated. But, you know what they say? If you're not willing to lose, you shouldn't play the game. So as a fighter, everybody will lose and everybody will have their dips. And I kept my spirit high. I was very positive and I just worked hard to get everything back on track. And it's been a rough, rough time.

But, you know, I've been there before. It's interesting when someone who isn't used to losing loses, sometimes they go through the depression, they're down on themselves. But you seem to actually deal with it very well. You seem to be lighter and in a better mood on the losing streak as opposed to before when you were on the winning streak. How did you do that? Well, that's a good question.

Yeah. I'm very curious because, you know, I remember when you were, You fought Bigfoot Silva going into that fight. You were not a happy person. But you know what? Maybe it has to do with when you're winning. There's so much things attracting your attention, people pulling at you, and you just don't have the time to react to everything.

And then, yeah, your fuse becomes a little bit shorter. And, you know, you're a little bit, a couple steps down. You have more time to review everything. You have more patience. Yeah. I think that has to do with it. But you don't feel the pressure because usually you feel pressure to get back on track Yeah, but there's always pressure.

Yeah. Even when you're winning, there's pressure because you have to perform. People expect it when you're... I think that Anderson Silva also was dealing with a lot of pressure. And I can actually understand that. So for him, the whole country wants him to achieve, keep achieving. And maybe he's like, yeah, I want to do something else. I want to chill a little bit.

And then you see, of course, it's pushing for the fights because they have a scheduled to keep up. So I could imagine for him there was a lot of pressure on him and also to perform. I never asked you this question. But in that fight, it was actually a year. ago, the Bigfoot fight in Vegas, Super Bowl weekend. Why were you such, you were such a prickly fellow? You were not very friendly towards me. This time, you're giving me a hug when I see you. You're so nice, so pleasant. Really warm my heart. Didn't I give you a hug back then? Oh, it was, you couldn't

have been more cold. You were ice cold towards me. Yeah, I don't understand why. What was up with that? Well, I don't remember. I saw you in the hallway. You didn't even want to say hello to me. Well, I don't remember that, but I do know, you know, a lot of stuff happened. Yeah. And, you know, we had the non-licing issue. I moved to the States. It was a a whole big deal, broke up with my girlfriend, my fiance actually. I was engaged. Oh, I didn't know that. You know, you're in your team. So it was just a lot of things on my mind, I suppose. I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't know that you were engaged. Yeah, it was. Are you okay? You're okay with it now? You've moved on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to, of course. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all part of it. Even in that sense, in the

in the love life, if you're not willing to lose it, you shouldn't get started in the first place. Wow. Very well said. Okay. So you go into. this fight and you told me two months ago on the show that, or it was maybe like three, four months ago that if you can't beat Frank Mir, you should walk away. But then at the media day on Thursday, you kind of took that back. Because at first I thought, wow, if Overeem is going to lose his fight, he's going to retire. But you took that back. Why did you change your mind? Well, I think that has to do with, I went to Thailand. Thailand has a healing effect on your soul. And I think everybody can agree on God who's been there. Because, yeah, it just really,

really got motivated there. I had great people around me, aspiring partners, the coaches, and really became more optimistic than I'm always in good spirits. But there I really became very strongly motivated again. And we really had a positive development within the team. Techniques were going awesome. And yeah, I just felt like there's way for me out there. So in that since Thailand was very healing for you. Whose idea was it to go out there? My own idea, actually. Really? Where did it come from? Well, the Frank Mayer fight was actually scheduled for November 16, and I was planning to do my training camp in Russia.

So once I was in Russia, the fight got postponed until February 1st. And while I was in Russia, it was very cold. And you're just sitting inside, and I actually got a little bit, yeah, not depressed as a big word, but just a little bit down. I didn't like that weather. You're just sitting inside all the time, same routines every day. Right. So I decided I need a holiday.

And of course, I live in Miami. So you're not going to have your holiday in Miami. So what other places is nice to go to? What's other place is warm? Thailand. I had great results previously fighting from there. Back then, I would already fight in Japan, which is around the corner there. But, yeah, I was like, let's do the camp over there.

Why Russia, by the way? What were you doing there? I had some appearance there. Okay, and then you liked it so much? No, I actually organized in that way. I was like, okay, I'm going to do my appearances. They were spread out a couple times, you know, two and three weeks.

I'll do my training camp there and then just stay a month. Was this with The Legend Show when all the UFC fighters came out? You were out there, right? That's a funny thing. Did you hear when Miracle Crow Cop was criticizing you guys? Did you hear that? I did. I heard something about it, but I don't know.

He said, why would these UFC fighters come out to support another show? If I were the UFC, I would fire them, he said. I read something about that. What do you think about it? Well, you know, I understand why they're doing. it, the promotion, because it brought them some attention. I'm wondering, did the UFC get mad of you for that? No, I believe there was somewhere, but we checked before we... I'm assuming you did. Yeah, you know, you're professional, you can't just go all over the place

without checking that. Right. I'm assuming they make it worth your while to go over there. You know what I'm saying? The Cheta makes it better. I wouldn't go for free about what you're asking. Would you? Would you go to Cold Russia's Day there a month? I've actually never been to a month, really. I was there a month. But it was training camp also. But still, I mean, I like the sun. Right. Appreciate the sun.

You saw Fader over there, right? Saw Fado over there. I saw him again, New Year's Eve because I had a TV gig New Year's Eve. In Russia. Oh, excuse me, in Japan. In Tokyo. Right. So I saw him there again, and he looked good.

He did. Did you ask him if he's going to come back? No, no, no, no. It's just okay. A hug. He's, we don't really talk about all that stuff. You know, he's just focused on this thing. I know he is.

going into politics, but he looked very fresh, very sharp, and I believe he's also happy. Do you ever think about that, man, that's the one fight that I wish I could have gotten? It would definitely be a big fight, but, you know, it happened the way it happened. Yeah, so you don't dwell on that? No, definitely not. What did you do in Japan? Did you do some kind of arm wrestling? Bob Sapp, did he win?

Bob Sap won again. That guy is, you know. Is it real, though? Because I question anything that Bob Sap does. It is real. It is real. I got beat. You got beat by who?

I got beat by this 350 pound sumo in the first round. Wow. I was finalist last year, and this year I just got eliminated in the first round. What does that do to your ego? You know, I'm going to tell you something. Last year, I got into the finals, and I beat some guys and some sumo guys, some big guys. Yeah. But this year, they expanded on it.

What do you mean? Well, I was like a mediocre kind of guy. Oh, they brought better competition. They had a lot of big guys. Oh, really? I was medium. They had like bigger than me and like three sizes bigger than me. I think the biggest guy was 440 pounds, sumo guy.

And he didn't even win. He lost the Bob Sab in the finals. Okay. And Bob Sab is even like 350 pounds. Were you the smallest guy? I was not the smallest. There was some small Japanese guys. What did I have a kid, Yamamoto?

Get out of here. That guy? Yeah, yeah. He's like 135. So. What a great visual. Yeah. and everything in between.

But there were a lot of big, big, big guy, strong guy from Russia, from, yeah. So it was kind of funny. And Bob Sap wins? Bob Sap just steam row through. Really? Yeah. You like Bob Sap? Yeah.

He's a little bit off sometimes. He's not, he wouldn't become my best friend. Right. Come for tea or something late night. But he's positive, you know, he's doing his thing. He's got his TV appearances here and there. I mean, he should not fight anymore because his fighting is a little bit ridiculous. Come on. He's throwing the fights, right?

Well, I don't know what he's doing, but he's losing in like 10 seconds. Yeah, and it doesn't look good. So it's not good. It's not good for anyone. Okay, so, all right, so you go through the training camp, you're happy in Thailand. Do you think that you will now, for the rest of your career, keep going to Thailand, or did it just work for this camp? No, no, no. What I'll do is Thailand, I love it over there, so it will definitely remain something I'll keep doing. And I don't know in which form or shape. I'll go there a month. May there go there two months. now it was a seven weeks which was uh it was very healing so you know Thailand just works for me I just need to keep going either holiday or a part of the

training camp or the whole training camp I don't know yet but obviously you know sometimes the traveling will not work because it is it is far and it is you know it is the other side of the world and you have to bring all the guys right that you want to train with all your coaches all the guys sparring partners but you know they they they've viewed us a holiday too and they everybody just loved it can you explain to me now you know here we are sitting in my house. This is my house. I built this house.

What is going on with the Black Sillians? Are you a member of the Black Sillians? What is going on? Yes, I am. Really? But there are no Black Sillion coaches in your corner. No, no, no. That actually originated from when I joined the Black Zillions.

I was going to fight Junior. And I had my own coaches with me. And that fight obviously didn't happen. But some of the coaches started working with the Black Zillians. Zillions and some of those coaches were later not with the black zions anymore either way they let it off I don't want to do something else and yeah but I still had a connection with him so I was like yeah let's just see who wants to come to Thailand and we contacted them we had a great cooperation with the Brock fight and I just wanted to go back to

that Robert Flamingo he wasn't in your corner right for this fight you still with him yeah yeah he just didn't he couldn't come to Thailand what was the deal no we you know he was not with the Black Zunes anymore, so he moved back to Holland, and he was just, in my sense, just getting his thing back to order. And, you know, back to flying to Russia, flying to Thailand, coming here, I just thought maybe it's better for him to just relax, do his thing on him, get his life back in order, and then we'll go from there. But I'll see him in a couple weeks. Do you feel like you've settled on a group of coaches? Because last fight against Travis Brown, you brought out, you know, Big Mike. That was big news. Everyone was talking about it. He wasn't with you this time.

Guys are coming and going. Have you settled on a team here or do you not even want a team? Do you want to just have coaches that help you prepare for certain fights? Well, I think that is the way to go because everybody, I've learned that everybody has their strengths. And, you know, sometimes you might want to utilize a coach against a certain fighter. For this fighter, definitely I wanted to work with Babak and Joaquin. And then Al-Zad was the new striker coach. And he comes from my own city, Amersford.

And known for a long time. And we just were playing around with techniques. Cameras do work. hey, why don't you come to Russia a couple weeks? And then Thailand, and we had just a great cooperation. So I was like, you know what, let's just try this for the fight. You were smaller for this fight, kind of a leaner overream. Even now, I look at you.

You seem leaner. Why? Well, cardio, everybody's screaming with the cardio, the cardio, the cardio, the cardio. So I was like, you know what, let's listen to everybody for change. Wow, look at you. And let's drop some pounds. And, you know, I actually enjoyed cutting weight, watching my food. I do believe eating clean just keeps you good, you know, also mentally and it worked.

Okay, so the fight, it starts out wonderfully for you. I mean, I was actually sitting right there, and when you had him down to the ground, those shots to the body, those knees, those elbows, it looked vicious, and I thought that they were actually going to stop it. In my mind, I thought, were you surprised? I mean, I know I kind of asked you this question at the press conference, but yes, he rebounded and was able to. able to keep fighting, but in that moment right there, he was taking some vicious, vicious damage.

In your mind, are you thinking, come on, what do I need to do to actually stop this guy? Well, in my mind, I was actually just focused on not getting into walking into the trap that happened with Travis and where you just punch yourself out and then suddenly you end up in a leg lock or arm bar. Because that is a little bit what Mir is known about. He's got this dangerous submission game. He, you know, he can take a beating. It's not like you.

and he's also known for faking a little bit, wobbling, and then suddenly you're in the submission. So my thoughts were just take it easy, don't get wind up in his thing, because once you start getting into it, you roll, you roll, and then suddenly you're tapping. That was my main focus. So you weren't tired at all after that onslaught?

Well, three rounds. You know, people know me for always going forward, knocking a guy out in the first round. And for me, this kind of was a test. What happens if we fight strategic? What happens if you fight clever? And how does that work with the cardio? So it's kind of an experiment too.

And, you know, I set my goals clear. I want to go for that title. And sometimes you have to be able to switch gears. And you have to be able to have a game plan. And you have to be able to execute the plan that the coaches lay out. And I think Saturday, two days ago, was a display of that. You know, after the fight, you said a word that sometimes gets people in trouble. You said you wanted to play it safe.

And fans don't like to hear that. promoters don't like to hear that. Do you regret saying that? No, I don't because it was a truth. Sometimes you have to play it safe. And for me, also, this was a big test. I mean, if you're going to go into the championship rounds, everybody is saying, yeah, Alice they can't do that, Alice can't do that. And actually, it was a big question. Could I do that also for myself? Because, you know, fighting is kind of different than training. And now I really feel like, yes, I can do championship rounds. Because after the three rounds, I was still good, and I could do two more.

The interesting thing was in my mind, I was like, oh, he's getting tired because we've, you know, we've seen this before. But you weren't breathing hard. Your mouth wasn't open. It didn't look like you were getting tired. I was just guessing that you were getting tired. So you weren't, you didn't feel gas or anything like that at all. You were actually doing exactly what you wanted to do you say? Yes. Were you in neutral, would you say? In a sense, like if you wanted to turn it on, if you wanted to try to finish him, could you have, do you think? Yeah, I think so. Really? In the third round, I could have. Really? Yeah. In the third round, when Frank stood up, if I look at the fight now, in the fight, in the fight, I was just remaining very careful because I just felt he was holding back and he was going to come, because that's a little bit of the game plan. I were going to get out, so I just survived the first two rounds and the third round surprise him.

Right. So, and that's not really a big secret. So for me, I just want to stay sharp. And that was, you know. Did he hurt you at any point in the fight? No. No, because I read a stat from Fight Matrix. But he almost had me in that choke. That choke was kind of tight. Yeah. The place, did you hear the place erupt?

Can you even hear that when you're in the midst of the action? Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I hit him a couple times hard. Yeah, yeah, how close was it? What do you mean? How close was the choke? No, the place erupted when he had you... Oh, yeah, yeah, that choke was solid, but I could escape. And then the arm bar, he almost had the arm bar.

He was constantly searching for a triangle. So he was kind of waiting for his moment. moment and trying to get it. And yeah, it's a little bit hard to see when you're in the audience and trying to fight. But I felt he was waiting for his moment. He's an intelligent fighter. He's a, you know, maybe it just looked like it was one-sided, but he was waiting for his moment. Amazing stat from Fight metric. I don't know if you know this. You landed 139 total strikes to just five from Frank Meir. Your differential is plus 134. That plus 134 total strike. differential is the fourth largest in UFC heavyweight history. Five. Landed five. Yeah, and

not really, right? Yeah, nothing. Maybe here. Right there, yeah, exactly. So also after the fight, you call it Brock Lesnar. Where did that come from? You beat him already. I beat him already. What do you want to do with that guy? Yeah, but I read, I believe I read somewhere that he wanted to come back and that he believed that he didn't fight under healthy conditions. and that it would have been different if he was healthy. So he was talking about the maybe possible comeback. And I thought he wanted to fight me because that was his last fight. Yeah, yeah.

And there may be a rematch. Now, there's an old Brock thing. We also can take it with a little bit of grain of salt, right? Because he's not there. And come on, little bit humor in there. Yeah, yeah, of course. But people, you know, they, and I get the sense, you read the Internet a lot, huh? You seem to have your finger on the pulse.

You're asking me about my message. Well, my Twitter. I get things on Twitter, right? Ah, okay. So fans throw you things. Fans from your things And then about Brock That actually was a little bit the big thing

Because don't forget I'm a fan of Brock too I mean He's not super technical But he is an appearance And he's kind of like a character And I've just liked to read about him What is he what his next step is going to be

Yeah So okay so you say Brock He's not coming out But coming back at least for now Dana White said But people took that as All right Alster just wants a payday He doesn't care about the title

Do you care Do you want a title Or do you just want to try to get the biggest fight's possible. No, I care about the title, of course. But I also, yeah, if he's going to come back, why not? It's a big fight. It is.

Do you think you can do the same thing again? If you did come back and was healthy. I mean, it would be a great fight. Would it not? I mean, Brock healthy. Brock against me would be a great fight. Anyone wants to see Brock fight. Yes.

Brock healthy, because that's what the discussion is. It's not if he's unhealthy and, you know, and if he's not. But if he's focused, he's healthy, we all remember what he did with, with Heath Haring, Randy Couture, he is the former UFC Heathaway champion, he's aggressive, he's huge, he's strong, I think that would be a very, yeah, very good fight.

I want to read you a quick quote here. This is from Dana White after the fight about you. He fought safe. I think he could have finished him, not a crowd-pleasing fight. The reality is Alistair didn't try to finish him. Didn't try to capitalize on any of the work he had done. It was a crappy performance, in my opinion.

He comes out with a crappy performance, and then he calls out a guy who doesn't even fight anymore. Awesome. Just to top it off, an awesome night for him. Not a great night for Alistair Overim. What do you make of that? Well, Dane is a very upfront character. I like that about him because I like to know where I'm at. And he's an intelligent European, as we all are. Do you think it's fair to call that a crappy performance? Do I think it's fair? I think it was a very technical performance.

Yeah, it is what it is. make more of it now. Right, but does it bother you to hear the boss essentially say something like that? Well, I can understand him because he's a promoter. He wants to have exciting fights. I mean, ratings matter. Fans matter. Fans won exciting fights, and that is important.

I hope he also understands my position. I mean, of course, I'm fighting a little bit the loser leaves town match. I get a lot of that in the pre-fight thing. So, of course, for me, and also, you know, since Travis fight, That has been a factor. I get a lot of things about my cardio. So sometimes, you know, in life, you don't always get what you want. And, of course, I wanted to rather punch him out in one minute.

But then I would have gotten, yeah, but he can't last three rounds. And then maybe I've not learned my lesson from Traverse. Right. So you say you like knowing where you stand with Dana. Where do you stand with him right now? I don't know. Based off of a comment like this, did he say anything to you, you know, privately? No, no, no, no.

We just shook hands and nothing else. But I'll probably talk to him soon. I heard a rumor and correct me if I'm wrong that your contract with UFC is up. Is that true? I'm not at liberty to discuss this matter of you. Why not? Because you're kind of like nice, nice friends.

You kind of slip that salmon question in there. I'm right here. It's not a salmon question. Are you a free agent? No. No. Why? No, I really don't know.

People want to know. Because this is what you... I don't ask you how much you make. I'm not asking you how much you make. And by the way, I promise you not to go to review. And they're not. Sure, sure, sure. But I'm not asking you how much you make.

I'm not asking you. No, but you're asking me details that you know are going to be a little bit sensitive. I can't discolor you. No, Arir. No. No. No. No.

But if you're a free agent, that's good because then everyone, oh, wow. You're on the market. Relax. No? Relax. Okay. All right. I just wanted to know.

The salmon is back. Can I ask you, can I just tell you why I'm asking the question? No. You don't even know why. No. You don't even have to answer it. I just wanted to tell you why. But I guess I won't go that route.

that's a good face okay I won't ask I'll drop the contract stuff so okay so he says that and you move on it you're not bothered by it

at the end of the day a W is a W right you just need to get back on track no no no no no listen I'm still that guy that wants to knock people's head off but it is important to have that switch sometimes it's not possible

you know you can want it how everybody want and if I look at my history my last fight that was exactly the downfall, going for that knockout. So, of course, it's logical, and I hope that the viewers back home

and everybody watching can understand a little bit from the same. How many times did you watch that Travis Brown fight? I think twice. That's it. Yeah. Really? Yeah, I mean, it's not going to change the outcome, right?

No, but it's just like, man, did it not bother you at all? Because, like, okay, did you see the Uriah Faber fight in the main event on Saturday? Yeah. Look at what was happening there and they called the fight off. The inconsistency.

Look at what you were doing to Travis and they let it go. Yeah. That doesn't eat at you at all? Yeah, it does. It does. It does. And you know, but you have a referee. Sometimes this stuff will happen.

We're not perfect. It's a little bit a bummer for a riot because I did really have the feeling that he could continue. Sure. In the other hand, he did get rocked a little bit, right? So, yeah, it's a bummer. It's just so funny because you never really know, like in other sports, you know, let's say football. You know what a touchdown is, what's out of bounds?

What happens with soccer too? Offside. Yeah, offsides. For the soccer fans out there. Sure, sure. It's a little less do or die, though. And offsides doesn't, you know, affect your career. I mean, of course, a goal can happen in the final minute.

This can be life-changing. Life-changing stuff. I mean, look at Travis Brown now. He's fighting for Doom, you know, one fight away from a title shot. Were you surprised he beat Barnett that quickly? Yeah, I maybe expect a little bit more from Barnett. But, you know, Travis is an excellent guy. Great guy.

I like him. you know, he gets what he deserves. He's working hard. What do you think of Frank Mirr now? Do you think he should retire? I don't think he should retire. I mean, I think he should just take some time off, overthink his whole thing, you know, is what I did,

and just go back in it. So the big question, I think, coming out of your fight on Saturday, and it seems like a lot of people were asking this, because I was looking at your Twitter, what was your entrance song? And then you go on Twitter and you say it's a, It's a secret? Why is it a secret? Bro.

Yeah. Do you believe in privacy? Entrance, Doug. Really? But do you believe in privacy? Absolutely. Or do you just believe that you can just go and take whatever you want, look at everything you want? No, no, no.

Snoop, emails, everything. No privacy? I've never heard, explain to me why it's so secret. Can I have a little bit of privacy? Sure, sure, but I don't explain to me why it's so secretive. I've never heard this before. No, listen, it is a secret. I'm going to keep it a secret, but I will tell you this.

Okay. I will tell you first. Please. Now I'm nervous. And I will tell you the next time I'm here. Oh, you're saying you will tell me at some point. Yes. Okay.

Now I'm worried you're never going to come back. I always do. You always do. Look at me here. Who would expect me to be here now? Who would have thought it? The snowstorms. Could you tell me why it's such a secret, though?

Because usually... Because then people would do. Then you would know, because you're kind of a clever guy. You kind of fit. me up. Is there a... Let's not do that salmon thing again. Is there like a meaning behind it?

Is there something that is... Is there like a message behind the song? Is that why you don't want to talk about it? No, there's not a message. The message is just, let's party. Let's party. And we think we achieved that with that song because everybody was going like this.

It was a great, it was a really great entrance. And you seemed to be in a great mood. You had a big smile on your face. And what I liked about it was, hey Alfred, why don't you play that song that I have? Do you have that song? See, there are a lot of people who think this is the song. Is it close?

Not even close. It's not it, bro. Let me tell you what this song is, just for the record. I'm looking here. It was... But you don't know... Sebastian and Grosso and Tommy... I'm not a house guy.

But I looked on the internet, and people thought that this was the song. No, this is not it. So you were standing there. You were fist pumping in Jersey. That's what they do in Jersey. You know that, right? And the guy in back...

You're a coach. He was also doing it. They do it everywhere. I mean, House is a worldwide thing these days. I never got the House thing. You don't get the House thing? I don't get it. So what are you, R&B? I like hip-hop.

I like hip-hop. Yeah, yeah. You see that in me? That's kind of going down, right? It is going down, yeah. You know, I like hip-hop too. We have great hip-hop tracks in the Ream. But House has always been my thing.

I always do my injury. Well, actually, once or twice, I didn't do my interest with House. But House is my main thing. That just pons him up gives me energy. Wait, wait, what happened to the music? I liked it. Did you like that music? It's good. All right, that's good. But you do like House now?

No, I don't. I went to, I was, when I was a youngster, I backpacked in Europe, you know, with my friends. You know, the kids, they go in the summertime, and we'd go to these clubs. I was like maybe 20 years old. And I didn't understand. What is this music? I don't understand. There's no words. It means nothing. There's words now. In house? In house?

In house? More so in the U.S., we have vocals on the house, right? But it's like the same word over and over and over and over. Like, there's not a story to the song. And that's why I'm so fascinated by why you're keeping this a secret, because I want to know, can't someone derive meaning from just beats? Do you have to arrive meaning from beats? I don't know. Well, then why is it such a secret?

You know, maybe music is not about meaning. Maybe music is also about emotion. And the emotion that it creates. You know what I love? My favorite part of the whole thing was you were standing there, you were fist pumping. Does this make you want to fist pump right now? No, this one not. Not at all.

This does nothing for you. Well, this one is okay. I mean, but it doesn't... It's okay, but it doesn't, you know. Anyway, you were standing there, and then at one point you were like, let's go. That's what you did. You were telling everyone, we're going to do this.

It was a very nice moment. That's what you want. Because sometimes when you go in your fights, typically you're in a pretty good mood, but sometimes you're very... This was just... It just felt right for this whole week. It just made me realize

and it put the kind of the nail in the coffin that this guy's in a good place. in his life. Yes. Yes. Like I said, the foundation is there. It's working and you feel it. You know, when you feel when all the pieces are there.

Yeah. And with the Travis fight, we already came a long way and now I really felt that everything is there. Yeah. And do you ever go to the clubs and just go like for hours and hours like this? Bang, bang, bang, bang. I dance. You do? I fist pump a little bit.

It would not really... What's the best club that you've ever been to? Well, I don't... club that much. You don't? No, no, I've not parted that much. I think last time I did was a march at Ultra, Miami. Okay. So that's Miami. Miami's a great conference. It's a great scene for that now. It is. But I'm not partying that much. I've been traveling around training. Right. I literally started to train April 1st and I didn't really stop after Travis, just a couple of days off. And I stopped here, a couple days there, a couple of days. I don't know that, it was basically a camp for 10 months.

Wow. Are you tired? No, I'm not tired, but I do want to have a nice holiday now. Where are you going? I'm going to go to Jamaica. Wow. First time. Which part? Being half Jamaican, shame on me.

Yeah. Which half is Jamaican? My mother. Okay. My father. Okay. My mother is Dutch. Okay.

So I've never been there. So, it's going to be a little bit holiday, a little bit networking, and also back their roots. Family. Yeah. Apparently, it's a funny story. Okay. Turn down the music. We're getting serious now.

Okay. I want to hear the story. Okay. So my great-great-grandfather used to be a slave, a paid slave. Really? So once slavery got abolished, he used his money, saved money, to buy a huge chunk of land. And he founded a village there. In Jamaica.

In Jamaica. Okay. So that village still exists. Wow. And there's like 8,000 people inhabitants. And 75% is my direct relatives. Really? So they don't know anything about me.

So it's going to be nice thing. to go back there and see what's going on. Who gave you this idea to go back there and do that? My dad is there now. So we're going to hook up with him next week. Yeah. Okay. Which part?

Yeah, where is that? I don't know. Montego Bay, Negro, Nogrel. I think it's somewhere in between. It's not one of those bigger cities. Okay.

The language they speak, they speak Patoa, right? English with an accent. Yeah, but there is a dialect that they. There's an accent, yes. Do you speak? No. No, no.

Your dad, has he lived there his whole life? He used to live in England and also Holland. But he speaks, he doesn't speak with the accent. He just speaks English. Are you close with them? It could be close. Would you like to be closer? Of course, but, you know, that stuff has to come naturally.

I don't believe in, you know. Of course. Yeah. I don't, it's not, but it has to come natural. Does he follow your career? Yes. Yeah, like did he watch on Saturday? I think so.

They get the shows in Jamaica? No, but maybe kind of... Internet? Yeah. Will you go with your brother? No, I'm just going to go with me and the team. Oh, really? Small, small team.

Okay. And you said it was your great-grandfather that started this or your grandfather? So my grandfather, and then I think his father or his grandfather. Right, because way back. Right. Okay, but he's obviously not alive. Is your grandfather alive? No, no, no.

I passed away a long time ago. Okay. Now, it would be something if this little technical... was called like the Ream or something. Has it any new with your name? Nothing like that? I don't think so. And my last name is Dutch, remember, overreem?

That's true. How can you forgot about that? Wait a second. I mean, these are important details. Wait a second. But your dad is Jamaican. You took your mom's last name? Yes.

That's very interesting. Well, it was not my decision. I was still young when they decided out. I was five. Right. And yeah, my mother decided my boys will have my last name. And it's fine. It's Dutch last name.

Right. Yeah, I guess you're right. But Alster is a British name, right? And that almost was Nicholas, because my dad wanted to call me Nicholas. Wow. But then my mother won that argument between them, and it was Alastair. Alastair way cooler. Do you think so?

I think so. One thousand percent. Nick Overeem? The whole history of MMA would have been different. But Nicholas is okay, I guess. Nicholas Overe? I guess. My parents wanted to call me Avner.

How about that name? Not cool. Avonero. now. One of the greatest things that ever happened to me. One of the greatest things to ever happen to me was that they did not call me up now. That's been good. Otherwise, you would not have been where you are today.

Yes, asking the salmon questions. Right? You know, I ask you this question because it was kind of made public just a couple years ago. How is your grandmother doing? My grandmother's still alive. Yeah, she's getting me a bit older. In good spirits, a little bit lonely sometimes. I'm going to go back.

to Holland a couple of weeks, going to go look her up. That was an amazing clip on the Ream when you went to visit her. Is she in her 90s? Yes, 90. I think, I actually think made a mistake. She's 98. She's going to turn 99 in June.

You got to go see her. I thought she was 99 and she would become a- 100. Yeah, 100, but she's actually 98. She's born in 1914. Holy moly. So she's born, well, what is that? Well, she would be, no, 1914.

She's 1915. Oh, okay. 15, 15. Because that was the mistake I meant. Right, right. So she was there during, like, all the craziness in Holland, during the wars and everything. Second World War, she got all the stories. Really?

Yeah. And how's your mom doing? Yeah, my mother's good. Yeah? She's healthy. She has her regular checkups. But she's healthy? She's healthy, yeah.

Wow. That's great. She never fully recovered in a sense of, she always stayed a little bit weak, energy-wise. But, yeah, she's good. She's living by herself. She's doing her thing. She's helping out with my lovely, baby girl daughter yes storm already seven already seven yes really where does she live

in Holland she lives in Holland she lives in Holland go to school there and everything is very she's so sweet will she watch her fights yes she will she will me yeah really you're okay with that because sometimes the the little kid sees her daddy get hurt it might be traumatic I think I think live that's not a good idea but I think after the fact and we kind of know it's safe okay so will you show her the losses or only the wins um Well, it's not me doing that. It's more the mother and her auntie and this and that. And I think if I lose, I'll not show it.

I think that's not good. What a great name. Who came up with that one? The mother, Soraya. Great name. Like the X-Men? Is that where it came from? Look at that.

How's your relationship with your brother these days? Yeah, good, good, good. We've been texting a bit back and forth around the fight. I'll see him again also in a couple of weeks. And I was Justin Holland last week. So he's doing good. Still fighting here and there, but he should quit. that. You think he should quit? Yeah, he needs quit. Why? Because it has to do with, you know,

in my opinion, if you do something, do it 100%. Yeah. Don't do it half, half a little bit. And, you know, if you're also doing too much different things at the same time, you can't focus. Right. You're doing everything, like I said, half or maybe 10%. So he's, he's got his own security firm in Belgium that is going very well. Stick to that. Don't take some fights here and there. What's the point? Yeah, exactly. Does he even want to fight? You're the one telling him not to?

He's a little bit like, because then they want the name, right? They want to use over him the name and they offer him money and then he's like, oh, why not? And then, but it's not good. He just needs to. How many other siblings do you have? Do you have anyone else? Half sister, older, and a little half sister.

And are you close to them at all? Not that. Well, actually, actually, if they're listening, Becky and Bo, both with the B, greetings. Yeah, greetings. I need to call you guys. It's been too long. It has been too long.

When's the last time you talked to them? Maybe six months ago or something. Oh, that's not so bad. Yeah, and my little sister actually a little bit longer ago. Okay. So now you're going to go on holiday. You're going to go to Jamaica. How long?

Three weeks. You'd be something if you could start, you know, grassroots campaign of MMA in Jamaica. There's really no one. You're probably the most famous. Actually, Uriah Hall. You know Uriah Hall. He's from Jamaica. I'm not met him, but I know it is.

You know that he's from Jamaica, right? You guys have something in common. Anyway, after that, when we're going to be. would you like to fight again? Well, on that note, I'm not sure, but maybe the summer or something, maybe after the summer. For me, you know, I've really, the foundation is there, but I need to build on the foundation. And I need to, you know, fix some more sparring partners. Of course, continue training.

But for now, holiday, get my mind off of training because it's been a very, yeah, not super hard period. But it's been a rough period. I mean, a lot of stuff happened. We had our two losses. we now close the spirit with a win. Right. And I think it's now important to relax a little bit, and then we're going to go back at it again and build on that foundation.

So what do you think of my Dos Santos idea? A lot of people like this idea. Yes, Dos Santos is a very interesting opponent. Of course, UFC will decide, but we just need to sit down with the team and discuss what we're going to do next. Is there still bad blood there? Well, you know, it's not going to be my best friend. Yeah.

Well, maybe something happened. this new, you know, overream. This is a new overreem that I'm looking at. It's a whole different guy. 3.0. 3.0. Interesting. What was 2.0? I guess when you became a heavyweight, that was 2.0. All right. I like it. 2.0, they say here in the States. 3.0 new haircut.

Yeah, what was up with that? I noticed. No more mohaw. We'll do that too. We'll do that too. But I was like, I didn't want to go out. It was cold outside. We didn't want to find a bar. So it was like, uh, cold outside where? Here in Jersey? Yeah, you don't think it's cold? No, but in the countdown show, you had, uh, shaved head as well when you were in Thailand. Yeah, because there, they don't have good barbers.

Oh, okay. So just put the machine. Don't let anyone mess with it. It must be something to be outside there training. You're in your outdoors. Like, I see you on that little moped. You just drive up to the thing. You go right inside with those big...

Fantastic. What a life. That is a fantastic lifestyle. Everything is near. So you take your scooter, five minutes to the beach, five minutes to the restaurant, five minutes to there, five minutes to here. I mean, I would literally train.

After training, you drink your water. You hop on the, shower. It's cold water, but it's kind of warm. It's refreshing. Why is it cold? On purpose? No, because it's not heated. But it doesn't need to be heated because it's still warm. Right, right, right. It's more warm air. So you kind of cool off a little bit. You jump on your scooter. You're still wet and you just dry on your scooter. Wow, what a life is that. What a life. And then you come home, you shower, you make a ride. Better life than in Miami? Very different. Very different. You cannot compare it. I mean, U.S. obviously and Thailand cannot compare it.

Are you going to stay in Miami? Yes. You are. Okay. You're not moving. No. But will you even go to the Blacksillians gym to like just work out and stuff? Yeah, sure.

I'm going to be back to this week. Oh, really? They're on a roll, huh? They're doing great. Abel? Did you see that? I didn't see it yet. You didn't see it?

But I heard it was a slug fist. And, you know, Abel is a cool guy. I like him a lot. And, you know, he's working hard for it. So it just seems like the whole, the whole confidence of the team has, has changed. You guys are really, Eddie Alvarez, Shad Evans has a fight coming up. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that Eddie. Eddie Alvers has been a great contribution to the team. Yeah, and he's just doing great stuff with everybody. All right. Great influence. I want to thank you for stopping by. I told you you'd be out by 1250, so I'm a man of my word, as always. I guess it's time.

It's time. Anything else you want to do. A man of your word. Yes. Ariel. Wait a minute. What do you mean? Have I betrayed you in any way?

Well, actually. Yes? We were talking about, oh, wait, wait. No, wait. Really? You're still holding on to this. You know that one really went over my head. I'm going to tell you something there actually is the new iPad Mini.

I want that. You want that? Remember what our deal was? You have to win the UFC title. That was the deal. That was not ideal. You're not going to get it to me anyway. But you know what? A man of your word.

Ladies and gentlemen, here's your man of your word. Yes. You sound like a politician, you know that? You know, you've been throwing some subtle jabs at me all interview long. No, I have not. It's a truth. You're calling me a politician. And the viewers now...

I feel like you don't trust me. It hurts. Because I must say the highlight of my week, the highlight, was when I saw the look of sort of concern on your face on Thursday. You were really concerned, like an old friend. And it really... And I'm not joking right now. It really put me in a nice spot.

It warmed my heart. Because after what happened in Vegas at 156, when you were so cold to me, like it was like we were breaking up. It really made me feel bad. And then you turned things with... Did it really? Did you bad? Ask your teammates. I asked them, what's going on with Alster? What did I do to this guy? No, that's, that, that touches me. Yeah. And here we are. Full circle. No, but also, also, I was, I was, of course, it's a little bit of curiosity, but it also like, hey, what happened? I mean, what was that bad thing that happened. And obviously, you know, some stuff happened and the media. So yeah, of course. The media. They'll get you, huh? Bunch of snakes.

You are the media. Yeah, well, that's what I'm. You are the media, right? I am the media. Of course. He was like, okay, well. Do you want to tell us about your contract or no? I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. The salmon is back. Thank you so much.

When is the Overeem, the, the Ream documentary about the fight itself going to come out? Do we know yet? I don't know. Is Elders slacking off? He's a little lazy that guy. He's not slacking off. He did a great job. He did a fantastic job.

Best documentary series in all of MMA, not even close. That is the documentary. There's nothing even compares to that. 30 minutes, 40 minutes. I have to watch it no matter what. He just released double episode. Double episode. You can watch it on the aliceoverham.com.

Actually, we revamped the whole website is like totally new, fresh. So go and check it out. At some point, are you going to put this all together into one long movie? You should. Yeah, actually we should, huh? At the end of your career, you put this all together into one long movie. The footage that you have, who has a sort of chronicle of his career like you do? It's a great thing that you're doing.

Pretty awesome, yeah. And you know what I love most about it, to be honest, it's honest. The ups and downs, you don't hide anything. It's, it's the best thing. It'll be your legacy. I wouldn't want to have it any other way because, you know, keep it real. Keep it real. That's what I always say.

Do you ever have something that's in there and you're like, no, no, no, take it out? Or does he have full rain? Well, he has full rain. Only thing I don't want to have in there is a little bit of my training stuff. Okay. So that's a little bit, yeah. And, you know, the discussion is always very open. I'm going to show this, going to show that.

And I'm like, nah, better not. Right. But everything else, the ups and downs, it's all that. Everything else is an old, elish thing. And I don't even look at the episodes. Okay. I don't even watch the episodes. Even when they're after, they're out?

I didn't watch the last two. Wow. I've not watched since, I've watched Redemption, Brock. And before that, I didn't, and then afterwards I did it. Is there a reason for that? You don't like watching yourself? I don't like watching myself. And, but when I do watch, it is good stuff what he's doing.

So I do, but I have to be in the mood for it. Sure, sure. I don't watch myself either. Who wants to do that? You don't? It's very tough. No, you're a critic. You say, why did I say that?

Why did I wear that shirt? Look at this shirt. This is one of my best shirts. You don't like it? Geez. You must like hip-hop music. I do. That's what I told you.

Oh, that's what you're saying. Look, let's not talk about house music right now, but I think it did you well and I'm happy. And one day you'll tell me the song. I will. I will. Next time I'm going to be in this chair. I hope a bigger studio and a better one and a more clean one. What is that power adapter thing, that battery cables thing doing back there?

Who knows? I don't know. They don't tell me anything. But how about this right here? This is a nice touch that we did. Yeah, the haircut is. The haircut is something. What year do you think this is?

That was in 2004. You've come a long way. Do you miss these days? Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Japan was special. It was very nice to be back there, New Year's Eve. I was there a couple days. sushi, I missed that, and the whole Japanese vibe.

But it's, you know, it's gone, it's not going to come back. I've been there once. What a great show? Only once? Only once. UFC 144 when they had the card headline by Ben Henderson and Frankie Edgar. That's not that long ago. No, I never been to Pride.

I was too young for Pride. Yeah. How old are you again? I'm 31. Yeah, so you could have been at Pride. Pride list. Well, I was still in school. I was still, you know.

Well, I miss those days. And I think everyone made fun. Why do you think it's not coming back? You think Japanese MMA's dead? Well, if you look at all the circumstances, all the patterns, it's not going to come back. Really? No. What do you mean by that?

Well, I mean, of course, there's a fan base, but it's not going to become as mainstream as it was. Why can't it? Because you need certain factors for that. Like what? Well, they had the perfect scenario now, right? You had all the fighters in the world, all the fighters of the UFC. Yeah, and a couple other factors. Right now, greatest moment of your career is?

I would say it's a year And Yeah And it's not that hard to predict which year 2010 was the crowning of my K1 K1 Dream Strike Force We got free belts in a year

And yeah It just was just a great year Final question Kickboxing is making a comeback It is Do you get that itch? Do you want to do it? You know I'm focused on MMA

I feel great in the UFC And You know The guys are Gloria They're probably also doing a great job, but I'm just focused on myself. Would you be okay to be with the glory guys? Because they have nothing to do with Golden Glory, right? No, no, definitely.

It's a totally different operation. I believe so. Have they ever reached out to you? No, no, no, no. There's some talks about Pat Barry in them. Yeah, he's not the UFC anymore. He left, yeah. But he is also a striker, right?

A kickbox. His ground is not that... Right. He doesn't want to do the wrestling. I think it would be something. But, of course, very happy that you're still in the UFC thriving. and hopefully we see you fight in UFC for a long time and get that title shot. You got it.

All right. Thank you so much for stopping by. Enjoy New York. I know you don't want to tell me. I asked this man earlier, you know, where are you staying? Now, he thought I was coming to, uh, to, uh, spy on him. I was just giving you tips to where you want to eat or you want to eat or my hotel. No, I didn't ask for the room.

I just said where, your location. You did. No, I didn't ask for you. You asked all these details. Yeah, well, that's what I do. I ask details. But I wanted to give you some tips on where to eat, where to hang out. You don't want my house.

help, no problem. It's a little bit strange. The address, the corner. All the best to you, Alster. I'm very happy for you. Thank you so much for stopping by. This has been great. And Ariel, thanks for having me. We are supposed to be joined by two guys who are fighting on July 19th in Dublin, Ireland. It's one of the more anticipated fights of the year. There has been back and forth. We've been chronicling it all year long, and it was last Wednesday that it was officially announced that Connor McGregor will be fighting Cole Miller on July 19th, and the UFC's return to Dublin, Ireland. I expect these tickets to be sold out

probably within an hour, five minutes, 20 minutes. People are very excited about this. And so we're going to be joined by both of them. Right now, we are trying to track down Connor, but we have Cole here, so that's a small victory for Mr. Miller. Cole, how are you? Hey, I'm doing good, Ariel. Thanks for having me. Oh, great to have you on the show.

So, and you agreed to this, we wanted to have you and Connor on at the same time, and we're having a hard time tracking down Connor. What do you make of that? I don't know. Maybe he's training him. Oh, okay. He's preoccupied with something a little bigger, more important. Who knows? God ask him.

What's more important than my show? I don't know. I made the day happen. You did, and this was in the middle of your training, so I appreciate that very much. Let me ask you this. Yesterday, not yesterday, a few days ago, Connor said, in an interview that he thinks that you're, you're petrified, that he feels it, that he's, that he's been listening to you, that he sees that he's going to, you know, be able to break

you, he feels it in your voice, he hears it, he senses it. Are you sweating this guy, just going enemy territory, all that stuff? Is this a concern to you? Yeah, you know, I think, I think it is a concern. You know, I don't think that I'm petrified of him or scared of him, but going into the enemy territory, that is something that you have to. take into consideration and if you think you're just going to walk in and it's not going to be a big deal I think that kind of makes you a little bit of a fool so but taking in uh you know it's consideration

like the the crowd the environment the amount of uh hatred that you're going to be walking into and to say that something like that won't have an effect uh without really addressing it with uh the proper kind of training and um you know mental adjustments that need to be made that's uh pretty foolish I saw an interview that you did recently. I believe it was with Yahoo Sports, and you said that, you said this. This is the quote. People keep saying, we're going to fight him on his home turf. I've expletive fought 18 times in the UFC Octagon.

The way I see it, it'll be more my home turf than his. I think he's going to feel that once the door closes. Now it seems like you're kind of thinking about the environment. Has there been a switch? No, I was thinking about the environment from the get-go. I'm talking more like, you know, once, you know, being there during the weight cutting week, you know, with dealing with the, you know, the people in the streets, dealing with the walk to the cage.

Okay. You know, that's going to be deafening, you know. And before you get into that cage and the door locks, you know, that's some stuff that you're definitely going to be hearing, you know, when you're walking out out to the cage before the fight. So that's, you know, I'm going to have to train for that, mentally prepare for that. But I did me what I said. when the door shuts, then we are in my hometown. So we are being joined by Connor McGregor right now in Ireland.

Connor, how are you? The champ is here? So I know you came a little late there, and I was worried that you might not show up, but of course I had faith that you would be here, and I appreciate the time very much. What did you think of what Cole just said about the environment? How it will be deafening? Will he be fighting in enemy territory, or once the cage door closes, might you as well be in, you know, I don't know,

know, England or Atlanta or New York City, does it not really matter once you're in that cage? Yeah, I don't know, Ariel. I didn't really listen to what he was saying. But what I did, what I was debating was when I was going to come on this show. Because I already told you, this is my show, yeah? I'm a Gregor how I want this show to be called, yeah? Right. Exactly. But do you have, and I appreciate it very much, do you have a response to him? Do you think it will be him against the world in Ireland in Dublin to be exact on July 19th. As soon as that man steps off the plane,

he is stepping onto a battlefield. He knows it. I know it. He opened his mouth. I didn't even give a shit about him. Nobody in the UFC gave a shit about him. 18 fights in the UFC are 17. I don't even know.

And the motherfucker couldn't even get off Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg rang and try to get that man off Facebook. Nobody cares about him. I'm going to go in. He opened his mouth. And listen, he opened his mouth. When that door rings, when that door shuts,

he is in danger, yeah? I'm going to stop him in the very first exchange. He opened his mouth. He should have kept quiet. There's a Celtic saying. Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose. And this is one more of those things, yeah? Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose.

That man opened his mouth, and I'm going to break his nose. Cole, do you feel as though you kind of hit the lottery here in a sense that everyone has been calling Connor out, and you got the fight in Dublin, the big fight that's probably going to sell out within minutes? I mean, you just kind of threw it out there many, many months ago before it was kind of invoked to call this man out, and the UFC went to you first. Do you feel like you kind of hit the lottery here? Yeah, I kind of do feel like I hit the lottery. Absolutely. What do you make of what he was just saying there?

I mean, he's saying he's going to break you in the first exchange. Those are some big words, especially for a guy who's been in the octagon that many times, as many times as you have. Man, he's talking about stopping me in the first round. I'm going to be the one that stops him in the first round. His jaw is going to be so weak from running his mouth. The first punch I'm going to hit him with is going to lay him out. Connor, if you look at your record, there haven't been,

many blemishes, but a couple of your blemishes way, way, way back in the day, we're on the ground. Do you worry about what Cole can do on the ground? Man, listen. This is a long, long time ago, yeah? Cole, I'm going to break you. I'm going to break you. Hey, bro. You don't know.

I am going to break you. You're too slow. You're the slowest motherfucker ever seen. You're the slowest in the division. I've been slower. I've been slower than everybody I've ever thought. I can dare you. I win and I'm slower.

I'm weaker. I'm not as agile. I don't have. any of those gifts. I'm just better than everybody that I beat. And I'm going to be better. I love it. You're slow. You're going to be faster. You're going to be hot. I love it. Tell me more. Tell me more, Carl, eh. I've got yourself into trouble. Your mouth got your man. Your mouth got you into trouble, brother, eh? Your mouth got you into trouble. You're going to pay for it. You're going to pay for what you said, yeah?

Yeah. Yeah. See when you open your mouth and you call me calling or whatever the fuck you call me, you know my fucking name, yeah? I'm going to make you same. I know it now. I'm going to make you same. my name. I'm going to make you say my name. Okay. Okay, Cassius Clay. Come on with it. I am going to make you say my name, yeah? You're going to say my name. In that outdoor, when that door rings, when that door shards and you're going to say my name. All right. Connor, let me ask you, last two performances for Cole, a lot of people, including myself, think one of his best stretches of his UFC career, you know, finishing Sam Cecilia like he did back in January. Have you been at all impressed with the guy? Have you been watching what he's done?

Has he been on your radar? No, no. Honestly, in war, speed is the essence of war. And I am the fastest in this division. Nobody is going to touch me. I'm too fast for this man. He is going to hit air and he is going to hit the floor. He's too slow.

He's too sloppy. He's too basic. He does not stand the chance. The only time I even acknowledge Cole, Miller, like I said before, 18 fights in the UFC. And one time he mentions my name, and where does he end up? He ends up on the main event.

I want him to thank me. I want to thank you right now on this air. I want him to thank me for giving him this opportunity, for allowing him to have this main event sloth. He mentioned my name, now he has a main event's law. I want to thank you for that right now. You want to thank me? Okay.

I want you to tank. I want you to thank me. Oh, you want me to thank you. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. Yeah. I appreciate it. I want to thank you for a few of my career.

Cole. Nobody gives a shit. You are the man. 18 fights. Honestly, I swear to God. I understand where you're coming from. If I was in the UFC for 18 fights and I was in your situation and I saw a motherfucker like me coming up, I'd hate me too.

I don't understand where you're coming from. But at the end of the day, you melt got you into big, big trouble here. I know you're afraid. You're too slow for me, Cole. I'm going to break you in the first exchange. I know. I just said that.

I just said that. Cole, what do you think of Conner's ground game? What ground game? What ground game? Joe Duffy and some other dude that I already forgot. I just looked it up 20 minutes ago, and I already forgot his name too. These guys made him look like nothing.

I said another interview. He will never, never, ever, no matter how long he trains, be as good as I am on the ground right now, and I'm still getting better. He's a joke on the floor, and when I get him there, it's going to be over on the first exchange,

the first grappling exchange. And Cole, let me also ask you, he looked very dominant in his first two UFC fights, but he's coming off a serious knee injury. Do you think he may not be as, dominant when he fights you? If he isn't as dominant, I don't think it'll have anything to do with the knee injury. He's going to be in there with somebody that's highly skilled as me, and that's what's

going to come down to. Who's better on that night, and that's it? It's not going to have anything to do with a knee injury or, you know, if somebody's mom died the week before, all it's going to come down to two is who's going to put who out in that cage first. Connor, is this going to be like Chale going to Brazil? Are the Irish fans? I'm starting to get a sense that they aren't huge fans of Cole Miller and they love you more than any other fighter in the UFC, maybe the history of the UFC, what you've done for them.

And you single-handedly brought this event to Ireland, as you predicted you would last year. Is this going to be, like, does this guy need security over there? No, look, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with Cole Miller. In fact, I actually, I kind of like, I kind of like Carl Miller. I kind of love Cole Miller. I love him like my bitch. I love him like my bitch, Ariel. He's a nice guy.

I have no problem with him. His mouth got him into trouble. If he dies, he dies. July 19th, he's going to feel it when he steps off that plan. He's stepping onto a battlefield. He's not going to be able to handle me. He can talk about my ground game. He can talk about my opponents.

He can talk about my past. At the end of the day, he is talking about me. Cole Miller, in this. industry is what you call a jobber and a jobber is that a guy that's brought in and make the good guys look good what are all those guys that I beat? What are all those

guys that I beat? What are they? If I'm a jobber what are there? Listen, Cole like I said before this division, I'm looking past you Cole here I want the gold. Jose's a schmuck.

Chad's a schmuck. Cubs are smuck. Your team made dust and the schmuck. All you guys are schmucks, yeah? This division is filled with a who's who of husbands and rookies. You were on the husband

list. Nobody gives a shit Cole. You should have no problem. You should have no problem with me, then, bro. Cole, I'm going to break you, brother, eh? I'm too fast. I'm going to hit you where you think you can't be here. No, didn't I just say that you were faster than me in the beginning of the interview, but I'm better than

you. That's what it's coming down to. How do you feel about his height and reach advantage, Connor? Well, let's talk reach, Ariel. As a statistic man, he has not got to reach on me. He has the height, but the guy is a stick. He's a tall, lanky stick. He looks weak in the midsection. He has nothing for me, Ariel.

The man has spoke. The man has, he spoke under post-fight adrenaline. Like I said, on fucks. Terriol. We'll make more ground. You are brave. And guess what? Where did you go?

Where did you go after you said that? You ran out of the cage. You ran. You ran. You ran away. Now guess what? Now guess what? Now it's happened.

Cole. Now it has happened. You're a nice guy. Don't get me wrong. You're a nice guy. I'm going to break a nose. And I'm going to look at you out of the fight. I'll take you well.

I'll show you my hometown. We'll have a good night. Trust me. July 19th, Colt, when you step off that plane, you're stepping onto a battlefield. Bring everyone with you. Bring your whole team. Bring Dustin. Bring P-Head with you, yeah?

And I'll whoop him, too. Connor, I'll just get him off the line and we'll make real conversation happen. This is fascinating. I know a lot of fans are enjoying the back and forth as well. You know, he thinks the fans are stupid, so he's just going to keep recycling shit. People have already said in the past. Hamid Ali's already said,

stealing some stuff from Rocky movies. He thinks very little of his fans. He thinks he's so original. Yeah, Cole. What the fuck are you talking about? In this game, people get confused. People forget about the arts and focus on the game. And then there's people that focus on the game and forget about the arts.

There's that specific, special individual that can do both. And when that door shoots, you are looking at that specific. specific individual. Cole, you're 42. You're balding. Nobody gives a shit. Facebook.

Mention my name. And what are you got? Facebook is where you went on. That's where you were on. You went on Facebook your last fight. You mentioned my name? I know your main event. Like I said before, I want to thank you right now this second.

If you don't thank me right now, well, then you may as well forgive me. Because July 19th, I'm going to break you. I swear to God, one round. The front exchange, you're too slow, you're too sloppy, you're too basic. Bring dustin with you. I want dustin. I want Dustin.

I want Justin by J. I want them to top 10. I didn't give a shit about you. I didn't even ask for you. I want the top 10. You're a smook. You're a husband. You're a nobody.

It should be easy for you then. It should be real easy for you then. Easy pay day then. Yeah, it's going to be slow, smooth as fast cold. it's going to be the smoothest contest. Hey, listen, don't worry about it. You're going to wake up, well-rested, and everything. You're going to feel good waking about this fight, yeah?

Don't worry about it, brother, yeah? I want to look out the July 19th. Cole, when I spoke to you last month, you were saying, you know, I'll believe it when I see it as far as the contract and the fight is concerned. Did you think there was a chance that Connor would not agree to this fight? But you seemed a little hesitant when I was talking to you via text message. Yeah, I was not sure. It's fair.

You're not going to face it in different ways. Yeah, I was kind of unsure whether or not his knee was going to get cleared by his position or whatever they were saying they were waiting on his clearance. So I was kind of unsure what they were going to do about it because I think I'm probably stylistically the worst matchup for Connor. So I was kind of unsure if they were going to do it. You thought that the UFC might not want to book him against you because they didn't want to have him lose?

Is that what you're saying? It will take less than 10 seconds for me. and to be on the ground before I catch him in a submission. Cole, please, Cole. You have not got a hope in hell. You are a jobber. You are brought in here to lose. You know it, and I know it, and they know it.

You have not hope in hell. You think they want you to lose, Cole? Well, I think they've invested a lot into him, you know, with the marketing. Say it right now. Say it right now. Say what you know. Say what. Say what.

Say what you know. You know they want you to lose. Say that to me right now. I just said that. I already said it. Good girl. Good girl. Anyways, back to where I was saying.

With all the marketing they put into this guy and they're pushing him real hard, of course that's what they want. I'm coming to his hometown, try to get him every advantage that he possibly can have. And he's going to need that. He's going to need that. Connor, were you trying to, or did you hope that the UFC, and I know you alluded to this, but did you try to convince them? You know, give me a bigger name.

You said you weren't all that interested in him. You called them a jobber and all that stuff. Like, were you disappointed ultimately when they offered you up Cole Miller for this fight in Dublin? I mean, honestly, Ariel, Cole was the last person on my radar. I had much... I'm not going to overlook... Do you have a other two fights? I am not going to overlook any man

Because any movement Any movement is dangerous You know At the end of the day He's 18 fights He's a schmuck He's a husband But I'm not

At the end of day I'm facing me It's me versus me And me versus me I'm the best that ever lived And I am preparing Like I am facing me I'm not preparing to face Cole

I'm preparing to face me And me Preparing to face me I'm preparing to face the best You know what I'm saying? I am preparing to face the best. Cole, do you kind of feel like you're fighting for the entire featherweight division to shut this guy up, to put him in his place?

Because it seems like everyone wants a piece at him. Do you feel like you're kind of representing all those guys who have been there with you for the last few years in the UFC? Yeah, I think that my original complaint was that was about these guys, you know, like you're talking, in the UFC, the top 10, how hard they've worked to get to that position where they're at. that. But as far as just stopping in from his mouth, you know, unfortunately, that's just part

of the game. I'm kind of like O'Connor would say, and I'm more concerned with myself. I'm a martial artist. You know, I try to always take my game to the next level, try to be a better person, try to be a better martial artist, be a better fighter, be a better, you know, wrestler, kickboxer, jihitsu fighter, and try to make, like, where all that hard work that I do is not just for what's going on in the cage, where I'll be able to be better outside of it as well.

You know, Connor, in the boxing world, as I'm sure you know, Floyd Mayweather has this situation where he's essentially handing out lottery tickets to fighters. Like, he gets to pick and choose his opponents. And I know it's different in the UFC, but it feels like you're kind of that guy in the featherweight division right now. Like, more people are calling you out than the champion, than the top contender.

Do you feel like you're in that position where you can, like, you know, give these guys opportunities just for the opportunity to fight you? It's almost like, to them, it's bigger than a title fight at this point. Like I said, Ariel, I want that man to tank me right now. I want him to tank me. Literally, one fight ago, he was crying about how he couldn't get paid, or how he couldn't do this, he couldn't do that.

Mentioned my name, now he's in a main event slur. Cole, tank me, you're welcome. When the story is told, when my story is told, you were always going to be a part of it. So you are welcome. I want you to thank me right now, Cole, yeah? Take me right now live on this air. Thanks for the easy fight.

Thanks for the easy fight, Connor. Appreciate it. Does anything concern you at all, Connor, about his game? No. No, honestly, like I said before. You know, so that way everybody can take to the facade. Hey, Cole. Hey, Cole.

Look, hey, you are going to have. You're too slow. Come on, man. You're too slow. Andy Smogel. Andy Smogh who worked you in that last round. Listen, I don't get tired ever. Ever, I don't get tired.

I can go all day. This is the best time for you. You think this is the best time for you and me coming off this injury. Honestly, I do not get tired. I don't think anything about your injury. I'm not even concerned about your knee. Listen, your ground game is weak. In my eyes, looking at your ground game,

It's specific. You have no tough game. You're weak on top. You're weak on top. You're weak on top. You're weak on top, call. I will pull... You have no top game.

Speak to you. I honestly, I guarantee you. When the bell rings, and when you're backing up against that fence, you're going to try and jump guard and try and stall this file. Trust me, I'm prepared for your bullshit tactic. I'm such a staller, Connor.

Yeah, yeah. Co. Awesome, cold. You're a nice guy. Honestly, I have no problem with you. I met you in I met you backstage in Boston In Boston

You were petriff In Boston or wherever it was No I was that Petrify when you were fighting Manny And I was looking at you Backstage and I was thinking And I said to me coach I said you know what

I'm going to stick a load of money On Manny Gamburian Because this guy Looks absolutely petrified We were in the same warm-up area I saw that nervous energy I know I know what way your mind is right now

call, yeah? I am in your head. I know what way your mind is. Let alone when you were fighting on an undercard like this, this is a main event. You are coming to my hometown. This is what I envisioned all my life. You think you're going to come in here. You have no hope in hell cold. I am in your head. I know, I know, I know, I know the way you are backstage.

I know the way you are on stage. You have no hope in hell. Cole, would you say this is the biggest fight of your UFC career? I mean, you fought on some big pay-per-views, you fought some big names. 100%. This is definitely going to be the biggest fight. It's on the main event in Ireland against Connor, with all this buzz and hyper... Say my name.

Say my name. Connor. Say my name. I thought your name was fallen for a year. Your name is Connor. Say my name right now. I'm going to make you say my name, yeah. I'm going to make you say my name.

I'm going to make you say my name. I'm going to make you. I'm going to make you spell my name in there, yeah? I can't even concentrate on the questions with you just running your mouth. It's so bad. I'm going to make you spell my name in there, yeah? You are going to spell my name in there. What do you think of Conner's persona, you know, the dress code, the suits, everything that he's done in the last year.

He's really evolved into one of the great characters in our sport. What do you make of this, Cole? Is this your style? Do you at least can't appreciate what he brings to the table here for the sport and the growth of the sport? Yeah, I mean, like, you know, he's got his monocle and his pocket watch and his, you know, his nice fancy suit.

He's trying to develop his brand and stuff like that. But, you know, tapping people out as my brand. We're going to find out on July 19th, what's up with that. So are you going for... Yeah. Calla, honestly, I have no problem with you. I, honestly, I really do. I find you amusing.

Honestly, I love you like my bitch, call, yeah? July 19th, you are going to be my bitch. Connor, at this point, are you 100% clear? There's nothing to do with the knee anymore, right? I have been cleared a long, long time earlier. I just needed to go to L.A. Because the surgeon who worked on me was in L.A. So he needed to have the final say, so the U.S. he could have final say.

I've been grappling. I've been spying. I've been full on a long, long time. Like I said, I sent myself, when this injury happened, And I had to sit on the sidelines and watch all these husbands and all these rookies take center stage. I sent myself the easiest, the easiest goal ever to come back better than anyone has ever come back before. When, trust me, he is going to feel speed like he has never felt before. I'm the fastest in the division.

Ariel, I am too fast for this man. You're not the best. You've got all this speed without the skills. You have no fun. Tell me how fast I am. Tell me right now how fast am. I've got all this speed. You're right.

You are correct. Tell me again how fast I am. I love it. I swear I got it turns me on when you tell me it is. Cole, do you think he is the fastest guy in the division? I know obviously you haven't followed him, but what you've seen. I don't know things that that's in the division, but he does have some speed. Some good speed.

He's pretty agile. He moves well, you know, things like that. What concerns? I'll ask you the same question I asked him. What concerns you most about Connor? I think he's going to try to avoid the fight as much as possible. I think he's going to try to use all his footwork to dance around. Oh, come on, Carl.

You think I want to try to avoid the fight? You said you can do this all day. You said you can do this all day. That means you're playing on stretching this out. I'm going to be trying to take you out of there. All the second. And I'm going to let you know. I'm going to let you know in fight.

I'm going to tell you I go all day. When you're backing up against the fence, I'm going to let you. know, I can go all day. Come on. You think I'm going to try and avoid the fight? Cole, please. You're going to be on the back floor from the barrel. We are going to collide and you are going to collapse. And that is the end of it. Collide, collapse. July 19th, I'm going to open up this division. I'm going to show what I know. I'm going to show what everyone else knows. I'm the most feared man in this division

Nobody wants a peace You don't even want the peace I know you don't want a peace You spoke You spoke my name When the adrenaline was running high And then the adrenaline came down And then you ran out of a cage

And then all of a sudden You calm down You're like actually I don't mind him He's okay Actually he does this, he does that I understand You had that post-line adrenaline

I understand But unfortunately it for you, it has got you into deep, deep trouble. Dude, you've said that like eight times. Ariel, do you have another question, or can I get off the phone? Well, I will say it one more time. Thank you. You made your point.

You are in cold. You know and I know it. Come on, man. You know it. You know it and I know it. You're too slow. Come on. How slow are you?

You are the slowest in the division. You're the slowest in the division. It's as simple as that. And I'm the most skilled, and I'm going to take you out with those skills. That's it. Most skill. Come on, Cole, the most skills. You're the most basic.

You're too slow. You're too slow. You know it. Your team knows it. Blah, blah. I'm just them with you because I want a whoop person as well that night. I hope him there with you. I'll whip him as well, eh?

Cole, we appreciate the time very much. I'll let you go. I know you stopped your training for this. Connor, stick around for a second. I have two other extra questions I want to ask you. Any final things you want to say to Cole, excuse me, to Connor, Cole, before we let you go? Man, after I get that, you know, performance of the night bonus, I'm going to make sure I buy his mama caravan and Perry Winkle Blue. Hey, thank me.

Tank me right now. Tank me right now for giving you this chance. Dude, Connor, thanks for waiting for my time. You know, if you did not mention my name, you wouldn't be here. Come on, call. You couldn't even get off Facebook. You could not get off Facebook. Facebook. Facebook tried to get you off Facebook.

You mentioned my name? I know you're here. Mark Zuckerberg tried to get you off Facebook. Come on, Cole. Thank me right now on this air for giving you this opportunity. Take me right now. Thanks for being so bad on the ground, Connor. You're going to find out what a real ground fighter is on July 19th. Yeah, yeah, Cole. You're a rookie. In my eyes, you're an advanced blue belt.

You're specific in San areas. Top game is poison. You are rubbish, Carl. Trust me. What you're going to do? You're going to end up on bottom? You think you're going to get a leg down? You think you're going to end up on top?

My right hand is going to take you down. That's going to be it. Oh, Carl. Honestly, I do. I swear to go. I honestly, I love you like my bitch. I swear I got. I want to have fun.

I love you. I love you like my bitch. If you die, you die. I'll be ready for you. it. That should scare you. Thank you, Cole. Appreciate it very much. All right. Later. Later. Say, thank you.

Thank me right now. Connor. Great stuff. Appreciate the time very much. Let me just ask you, since it came out just last night, it affects you. Chad Mendes Josealdo. You're very good of breaking down the fights. Who wins this fight? Title fight was just announced. Did you know this, by the way? I had an idea that that was the way they are going to go.

with this fight. I messaged Dana the other night and I told him UFC Dublin will be the fastest selling UFC event in history and I will bet you a title

shot on this. Wow. He hasn't replied yet. I'm going to stop Cole and I'm going to go for that belt. We can do the rookie dance all we want.

They can keep giving me these husbands they can keep giving me these rookies. I want the gold. I'm hearing. for the gold. Although Mendez,

how do I see it going? I don't know. Personally, like I said before, I think Mendez should be a 135er. He looks blown out at 145. He looks like a little bodybuilder. His body type is

not designed for combat. He gases after halfway to the first round. He reminds me of a little midget Phil Barone. But I don't know. I believe Aldo should win this contest. Aldo said you're the day

that I've only had two fights in the UFC and I think I am the king. And that is right. That is right. I hope he bowed down. I hope he bailed down when he spoke of the king's name. I hope he did. And I will make him bow down

when he speaks of the king's name. We have it on tape in your first appearance back in February of last year when you predicted that you would be the guy to bring the UFC back to Ireland. And you've always told us that you envision things, that you see things happening. So how do you envision this road now that you're back, now that the knee is in the past, how do you envision? Okay, coal happens July 19th, and then what's the road to the title shot? And how long are you the champion of this division, in your opinion? Personally, I'll be the champion by the end of the year. I am already the champion right now.

I am the people's champion. I have the division hoping I fail. I have the UFC fans hoping I succeed. At the end of the day, me, McGregor versus Aldo sells more than McGregor versus Mendez. It's as simple as that. It is as simple as that.

I am a bad stylistic match for Jose. I will I'm going to Whop Coe July 19th I'm going to preferably I would like

When is this a When is this Ealdolmende's fight? August 2nd So right around the same time as your fight My mind frame was on July Stop Cole

In devastating fashion Put a stamp On the division Call out Call out call out that guy whatever that guy's name is

Jose Jose Jose right away I'm calling him out straight away I want him at the guest fire bring him at the guest fire bring him as a guest fire for UFC Dublin

I don't think I make those decisions but I think now the UFC I'm sure they are listening to this bring him as a guest fighter for UFC Dublin I'm going to stop calling devastating fashion.

I'm going to stop him in the first exchange. And then I will call it with Jose Aldo. McGregor, Aldo sells much more than McGregor, man. No one gives a shit about

Mendez. No one cares about Mendez. Like I said, he's a midger Phil Barone. He's a little bodybuilder Midgea Phil Barone. No one cares. He tires after the first round.

His body type is not designed for this game. It's that black and white. I'm going to stop cold July 19th, September. September, preferably I'd look to find out. I don't know what way this August thing is going to go. But whatever.

July 19th, stop cold. August, September, maybe Cubs Stevens. Stop one of those. And then the end of the year card, that big end of year card in Vegas. Stick me on that. Give me that gold. I think you set it up. If you beat Cole, I think Dustin Porier would make a lot of sense.

You just said you wanted him out there in Ireland, and then I think a win over him would warrant a title shot. Listen, Cove is the guy that I probably should be fighting, realistically. Cole has spoke about how I have blasted his teammates and how I should fight him before I earn a shot to fight deep. guys. So listen to his

mind frame compared to my mind frame. His mind frame is on. I need to fight him before I want a shot

at these guys. And he's talking about Nick Lentz and Dustin Poirier. You know, it's a different mind frame. McGregor

Porriere should have been on that UFC end of year card when Diego Brandeau fought Porreier. I believe if that injury

had not had not happened, I would have been fighting Dust and Portier on that end of your card. And then I would, I would already be speaking to you right now with the gold wrapped around me. I was expecting that. Let me ask you one last question, Connor, and then I'll let you go and thank you so much for this. I appreciate the time very much. I know you're very busy and being pulled in a thousand different directions. But when we last had you on the show...

I love it. Ariel, I love this. I am here for everything. I am here for the success I am here for the gold I am here for the fame I am here for the money every part of this game

I love I love my job more than any of these guys I love it every bit of it pull me left put me right I love it

I relish in these opportunities so last time we had you on the show was December and you were saying you know you were getting a little you know it felt like there was some aggression and it was pent up and you said, I'm probably going to take a break from talking to the media. This is my last interview. I just need to go focus on getting to be 100% and whatnot. By the time you actually fight inside the octagon in July, it will be 11 months since your last fight. Can you just put us into how you will, like the, the, the emotions and everything that you've been through over the last year and still sitting there and still, you know, talking your talk and not backing down from everyone, but just being away for someone who loves his craft so much, who loves his job, as you say, who loves to be active, how will it all culminate on July 19th for you?

Ariel, it is going to go smoothly. Like I said, tune in July 19th, UFC fight pass, Satanda sports, BT sports. I'm hoping, Fox, Fox need to jump on this. Fox want to jump on this. Fox want this card. Fox want this. There's no UFC fight night card that Fox have ever touched, but Fox want this car. But Fox want this card

I want Fox I want this to broadcast on Fox I want all these Americans to see to take a good look at the new king and the guy that's not I'm not like

Ariel I'm not here to make friends I told you this on my very first interview I wasn't here to make friends I'm not here I'm not here to make up the numbers I'm here to take over I'm here to own this game

now now that this injury has passed and I've been fully grappling and I'm fully sparring, life is good again. That time when we spoke and I said, I'm going to stay away from media, I'm going to stay away from this.

It might have been, maybe because I had not been able to train. I had other distractions. Now my life is good again, yeah? Movement, my movement for me is meditation. Now I can move. Now I can strike. Now I can feel,

now I can feel the human body. Now we can feel movement again. You know what I'm saying? I am a happy man right now. I am lapping this up. I'm like I am here to take over, Ariel. Main event, my hometown Dublin, Ireland. This is my show.

This, UFC fighting, like, UFC Dublin is the Connor McGregor show. It's that simple. It's the Connor McGregor show. Cole is brought in to get his ass whooped. He knows it. I know it. You know it.

Everybody knows it. I relish this. I love this game. I love my job. I'm grateful that Dana, Lorenzo, Sean, Joe, that these have given me this opportunity. You know, like I said, when I wanted to bring the UFC back to Dublin Ireland,

and I said I was going to drag them back by the scruff of the neck, did I think I was going to be main event? Honestly, I did not think I was going to be main event. Now that is here, now I'm going to prove my work. Now I'm going to prove to everybody what I have been saying. All these guys in this Federal Way Division have been joining teams. These guys have been joining teams hoping I lose. I love it.

I want them all to join teams because it's me versus them. Connor, it's great to have you back. Looking forward to this so much. Thank you for the time today. And good luck as you prepare for the fight on July 19th. can't wait for it. It might just very well be the most anticipated fight of the summer. It certainly is in my mind. I've been waiting for this for a long time. So best of luck and thanks again. And that has nothing got to deal with coal. Tell me right now that has nothing got to do with coal.

I like the dynamic between you two. I think it's a lot of fun. Tell me right now that has nothing got to deal with coal. You know as well as I know it. It could be anyone. it's me you want to see. Tell me right now it's me you want to see. I think it takes two to tango, but of course, we haven't seen you in a long time.

You are the draw. That's why they're going to your hometown. It's something that I hope I can witness in person, to be honest. Yeah, folks need to cover this card. They knew, they do. The very first UFC fight night. Fox covered a very first UFC fight night.

The fastest selling UFC event in history. Headlined by the king. The new. King, the most feared in the division, the notorious. Ariel, I will see you there, my friend. Thank you so much, Connor. All the best to you. Really appreciate it. My man. My man.

There he is. The one and only, Connor McGregor. Thank you so much to him, July 19th goes down, and thank you so much to Cole Miller as well. Great stuff from the both of them. All right, let's move along because our next guest is very busy. That's what happens when you're the number one contender. You're very busy, and you have to cut interviews short. You have no time for

the little people anymore. All of a sudden, you're the number one contender in the light heavyweight division, you're fighting for the belt on September 27th, and you're very busy, and you're sending text to cut interviews short. Of course, I'm talking about D.C. Daniel, how are you? Well, Ariel, I mean, I kind of get to practice. I mean, at the end of the day, I love doing these interviews, and I can talk to you for hours, but I better get to training, otherwise I'm going to get embarrassed on September 27th. Wow, have you already flipped that switch on us? Because we were, I just saw you in Tennessee. It was all nice and now I feel like things are a little bit cold between us.

It's over, brother. I got to train, man. I'm getting myself prepared for war. I'm going to be ready for this fight. I've got to be ready to go five rounds with the best guy in the world. And that's not leaving anything the chance. So training camp starts today? I mean, when I got the news last week, man, I went in two days in a row and hit it pretty hard.

So I hated it pretty hard those first two days and now it's just going to be a sustained eight week, you know, eight hard weeks of really, of really, really grinding and really putting my nose to the pavement and just getting after it. Hey, I got to ask you about this because I didn't get a chance to experience it. Brian Stan told me afterwards, we were in San Jose for the show, and what he told me was when they played the commercial or the promo for the fight, the entire arena stood up, started chanting your name, D.C.,

and then looked at you, and you were soaking it in. He said it gave him goosebumps. It was an unbelievable moment. Can you describe the moment for us? Because it sounds unbelievable. It was unreal. You know, the producer said they were going to run our poll in between the main event, the co-main event.

And the moment they showed the four fighters, they kind of started cheering. And then the poll, they talked about John, and then they went on to talk about me. And the moment they showed me running into the cage. I mean, the place just erupted. And everybody kind of turned towards the Foxwood and started cheering. And so I started kind of saying, you know, let's go, you know, stand up.

I started kind of waving my hands up, like, you know, we're going to do this because I'm not only going to do this by myself. I'm going to do it from my adopted city of San Jose and my hometown of Lafayette and Louisiana. So it was great to see and see that this city has taken me and taking the American Kickboxing Academy. It made one of its sports, sports, we're one of their own. You know, I always say that San Jose and Bay Area fans, they really support their own. The San Jose, the sharks, they sell out the SAP Center every time.

The San Jose earthquake have some of the most, the highest attendance in the MLS soccer. I mean, even in San Jose Sabercats, which is arena football, they walk out the SAP Center. So it just feels great to know that San Jose always has our back. Did you have a premonition that this would happen because when this fight was announced, everyone was asking me, didn't he have knee surgery, didn't you? And you kept delaying it and delaying it. And now here you are. Had you have gone under the knife, you wouldn't have had this opportunity.

So did you have a feeling that this was going to happen and that's why you kept delaying it? No, man. You know what it really was? Ariel is just that I'm not on surgery, man. I had a ton of them, you know, like I broke my hand plays. I broke my thumb playing football, and I broke my arm wrestling, and I broke my hand fighting. They got my appendix. They had to fix my collarbone when I was a kid.

I had a lot of surgeries. And it seems as though as medicine has improved, surgeries always work. Which is crazy. It's like when I got the surgeries back in the 80s, you know, I never had to go back because my surgery didn't take or you didn't see stuff like King Moe's Daff infection or I got another friend like his name is Wayne he's going back into refix his ACL again because it didn't heal the correct way or or Dominic Cruz where he just kept injuring himself after these things that's

supposed to be fixed so I'm not real big on on surgery right now man so I was like you know what let's just see if I feel better in a couple months and when I wrestled Pendleton he got it on my leg and I was defending a takedown and it was turned out pretty good, and I was like, well, I didn't feel any worse than it had for the past five years. I was like, I'm not doing a stupid surgery. So that's when you decided? Yeah, man, you know, I called my doctor and I was like, I don't think I want to do this surgery, man. He was like, really, I was like, yeah, like, you know, you told me that with time my LCO would feel better.

I go, and the only reason you found my ACL was hurt was because I heard my LCL in practice so you had to examine my knee. You had no idea that for as long as you say my ACL has been hurt, that it was hurt. I was like, so let me just see how this LCL feels a month or so and I'll let you know. And then my LCL doesn't hurt anymore,

so now my knee just feels as it always has. So how close to 100% are you? I mean, are there any limitations here? No. I'm doing everything. I mean, I am doing everything. I'm wrestling. I was at Jay Glazer's gym the other day, and we were training with some NFL players, and we started doing back handsprits, and I did a backflip. Wow.

If I can do a backflip, my knee's fine. The irony is John Jones is the kind of fighter who likes to go for the knee. Do you think he is going to do that? Do you think he's going to pinpoint this? If he didn't, I'd be very disappointed in him. Wow. As a competitor. Wow. As a competitor, I'd be very disappointed in John Jones if he didn't.

But as a competitor, he's had injuries too that I need to target, and I'm going to you. Like what? I mean, I have to ask. I mean, Ariel, let's just be honest. I don't know this. Oh, no. That's my That's better than not

doing everything to go in that fight. Your phone's cutting up, so I didn't hear what you said after, let's be honest. I said, can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you now.

I said if we're in the clinch and I'm not footst up in his toe, then I'm not giving myself the best chance to win this fight. If there is a known injury, we should try and win at all cause. I mean, I thought it was great that he wrenched on him over to share his arm

when he had the opportunity, because that shows that he's vicious enough to try and win at all cost. And now he's in a case with someone that's willing to do the same exact thing. The back and forth between you two over the last few days has been amazing. It's been amazing since, you know, this all kind of really started to become almost a reality a year ago. I would tell him that I thought that you were the Frazier to his Ali. Does this all stem from the fact that, you know, when you first met him at that Kane v. Brockfight in Anaheim and he looked down on you and maybe pretended or acted like he didn't know who you were.

From that moment, is that when you wanted to beat this guy up? Well, you know, John Jones didn't know who I was. I don't expect him to know who I was. Well, you were an Olympian. Yes, and I figured as an Olympian, and if John was as good of a wrestler as he was, as people say he was, he was in high school when I was on the Olympic team, you wouldn't know. I knew who was the Olympians when I was in high school,

because I was a good college kid wrestler, I mean. So I would have imagined he would have known. But if he didn't, I couldn't have faulted him. Nobody knows who wrestlers are. It was just the way that he came about. Like, is that the best way to make conversation? And if he did know who I was, and he was trying to crack a joke, like, I mean,

is that the best that you can do, honestly? So since that moment, that's when you wanted to beat him up, right? I was like, man, this dude has to get it. But what you got to remember, it's like bulletin board material. When people are playing in a Super Bowl, and the media is all around for these scrums and stuff, you've got to really watch what you say,

because you don't want to give the other team anything to motivate them. So, yeah, you know, since that day, I stuck a picture on my wall and say, hey, this is a guy I have to have to have to take a picture on your wall. No, I didn't, but in my mind. Sure, sure. It would just been a nice story if you actually did it. Yeah, it would have been, it would have been,

I'm just not this forward-thinking. You could have lied to me, and no one would have known, by the way. I know I could have, but why not just be honest? I'm an honest person, Ariel. You know, the back and forth this week with the DMs and everything, also great. He's sending you DMs. You follow him. He doesn't follow you.

He's sending tweets about you and then deleting it. What do you make of his Twitter persona? I think it's good. You know, I said time and time again, Ariel, that I didn't believe that he should try and protect this image that doesn't even exist anymore. That image that he put out when he started fighting before, that's gone. People saw through that. People know that he's not this person that he put off he was in the beginning of his career because of all the things that he had to deal with just in the media.

He had to grow up a lot faster than most people did in this sport because he's so good. So, yeah, I like his heel persona. But for me, for me, it just tells me that he's a bit uncomfortable because this is out of character for John Jones. He doesn't directly go at his opponent as he has with me. There's out of character a little bit. Do you think you're under his skin? Do you think you're in his mind?

I'm not in his mind or under his skin, but I know that he knows that he's got a real fight ahead of him on September 27. So maybe he's trying to use mind tricks on me to affect me. But, I mean, oh, my goodness, that is so petty and just childish. He can't use mind games on me. I've dealt with all this stuff for so long in my life that mind tricks don't work. You know, they won't. They won't ever work.

Do you have four more minutes for us? I do. Okay, cool. What do you say to the people, because it was brought up before, you're a great fighter, you're one of the very best in the world, but he's taller, the reach is a huge advantage. What do you say to the people who say, just on paper, this isn't the best fight for you?

I mean, you just got to watch and see. You know, I believe in myself, man. I believe in myself 110%. But Ariel, there is a batter man out there. Every one of us, for as good as John Jones is, there is somebody that can beat John Jones. I believe I'm that guy. And there is somebody out there that can beat me. And I don't know who that is.

You know, it could be Rashad Heavens. It could be Grover Tashire. It could be one of those guys that they're just better than I am. But I believe that on September 27th, reach and height. I don't think all that's going to matter, man. I believe I have the ability to beat John. I have the ability to compete with John. and I have the confidence in knowing that I can get the job done.

This is the first time you've got two undefeated guys fighting for a UFC championship. This is a big deal, man. This is the types of fights that we need in MMA to show that, you know, guys can sustain being undefeated for a really long time and get to the top of the sport and fight each other for the ultimate prize. So, I mean, this is a big deal. I can feel it. I know John can feel it, and I can't wait forward. So you consider him undefeated? You don't consider the Hamel fight a loss?

Not even close. John Jones is 21-0, or 22-0. He's a, he is the palm-fong greatest fighter that we may have ever seen. And I believe I can beat him. And how about the fact that two Lafayette, Louisiana guys are going to be fighting in the main event? And I don't know if it's co-main of it or whatever, but that's a massive fight. Right now, it's the co-main event. That's crazy. You went to the same high school as Dustin Porier, right? Dustin Poreen and I both went to Northside High School in Lafayette, Louisiana, man. Unbelievable that two guys from that little school and that little city are fighting on the UFC pay-per-view, one of the bigger ones of the year. You know, so it's crazy, man. Lafayette, Louisiana is going to be. There will be a lot of Cajun in that building, I'll tell you that much, because my phone and my stuff has been blowing up with people wanting tickets, and I know Duff is going through the same thing because if there are a lot of, you know,

There's one thing people from Louisiana like that seeing their boys put two people in their place. And you got a loudmouthed kid in Connor McGregor. I don't dislike Connor McGregor, but he likes to talk. And you got the guy that seems to have had everything happening for him exactly right in John Jones. In Louisiana, he would see him as he keeps the chin up in the air. They would want one of their boys to put him in their place. So Dustin and I have the opportunity to both do that on September 27. And by the way, he's a unique guy.

Are you going to do anything different? I mean, A.K. is a great team, but are you going to go and bring in anyone else or go somewhere else to try to replicate his style? Well, I mean, I talk to, I've got some friends, and they kind of put me in contact with some of the guys down in Southern California with Anneson, Silva, and Leodomache. I may go down there for a week. Wow. Right now, the plan is for Phil Davis is coming up in a couple weeks to help me prepare. Cyril Diabate is going to come down in August. He's long and tall. and do some sparring. So I've got some guys, but you know what, man, I've got two guys that I rely on.

And I tell to John Jones, show me two guys that can beat my two main training partners, Kane Velazquez and Luke Rockhold. You show me your two that are going to prepare you better than my two. So I'm going to rely on my guys, man. I'm going to rely on Kane. I'm going to rely on Luke to help me become the UFC champion. But yeah, I'm going to reach out a little bit, but I'm not going to stray very far from my comfort zone. So Anderson and Leoto, that's a possibility?

That is a possibility. We haven't worked on all the details, but that's a possibility, and we'll see what happens. Hey, I got to tell you one last thing before we go. I got to be honest, I tried to get John Jones to call in and crash this party and, you know, stir it up, but he declined, or we couldn't make it happen. I've done one better, my friend. I've done one better.

How about this? Okay. On the line right now, we got a special guest who wants to wish you the best of luck on September 27th as you face John Jones for the UFC Light Heavyweight title. You know what his name is? His name is the best in the world. His name is CM Punk. Nice.

Yo. Hello. What's going on? Oh, nothing. You're the one. You're the busy one. I'm doing a whole bunch of nothing right now. Listen, I don't got to wish you luck.

Come on, Ariel, you know better than that. Lucks for losers. That's true. This guy, he's on a roll. He's undefeated. I don't got to tell people his credentials. on top of all these awesome things he's done. He's such a nice guy.

He's good to the fan. So I tell you what, I'm going to be there, and spiritual I will be in your corner, and when you win, the Popeyes is on me, all right, D.C. Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate this. Ariel.

You're the man, buddy. How about that? How about that? That's so cool, man. Punk, break it down for us. You know why I like to him, punk. I know he's your favorite. You're very upset that you can't watch him on TV now,

but Punk, break it down for us. How do you see this going? You know what? I think on paper a lot of ways, this is a pick-um. You know what I mean? It's 50-50. You can't take anything away from John Jones. I think very much momentum is in the corner of Gormier, though.

I think, you know, Jones had a rough fight with Gustafson, and unfortunately, you know, he's out and when opportunity presents itself, I think a lifetime of wrestling and the wrestler's mentality is what caused him to see this moment and it's a hell of an opportunity and he stepped up and I just love the fighters that step up, you know what I mean? People get hurt all the time and it's a part of the sport and it sucks but there's always those guys that are always fight ready

and they step up and I love that. How about this, D.C.? You see a puck in your corner? My guy, see him pump, giving D.C. He's giving me to rub. He's giving me to push. which means it a man of his spotlight right now. Hey, by the way, DC, Annie...

Beulpump taking me from Jabber to a mannavind headliner. No, you did that yourself, man. You did you just drop Luke Rockhold's name and Kane Velasquez's name. I ain't nobody compared to those guys. I'm just a supporter, so to speak. Maybe Punk can come out to AKA, you know, he's very good in Jiu-Jitsu,

maybe help him with his wrestling, you know, is... Oh, yeah, you can all just beat the shit out of me. Why not? Thanks, Ariel. Thank you, Al. Like, what the hell are you doing? Like, Ariel, what he's trying to do to do to this guy? Like, I mean, he's going to, well, I knew that he can be, you know, we can do some professional wrestling.

And we got a ring in there. I used to try, but he could teach me a lot of that. And then him and Brock Lesnar's judithu at WrestleMania. I mean, that was top flight right there. I loved it. You could teach him the GTS. Okay. Hey, teach me to GTS, and I'll let Kane do it to me.

Let me do it to Kane. We'll film it. As long as I don't have to. far with you. That's fine. You've got to do it. Hey, D.C., before you go, anything you want to ask, C.M. Punk, I mean, this is your channel. Anything you want to ask him? No, man. We'll talk again before.

I got to get the trainer. I got to become the champion. I'll talk to you guys later. All right. Thanks, D.C. Thank, D.C. Hey, Punk, don't go anywhere. Are you still there? I'm still here, yeah. Oh, hey, what's up? Nothing. Thanks for calling in. Oh, no problem.

What are you doing these days? I just got back from Comic Con last night and I was very disappointed my DVR did not record the fights from Saturday so I actually remained spoiler-free I have no idea what happened so I'm going to try to see if they replay it or if there's a way for me to watch it

I don't know Wait so you just, you're in an MMA show right now you're in the MMA world and you have no idea what transpired you don't know who the number one contender is I don't know I'm pretty fortunate I try to stay off Twitter and I don't make announcements like, I'm going to remain spoiler-free because then I have all my asshole friends texting me,

the results and everything. But, no, I got no idea. I'm a member of the FightPass, but I can't watch that show on FightPass. I don't understand how it all works now. I'm old, and technology escapes me. It's not going to be on Fight Pass because there's like a window that they have to respect because it was on Fox, so they wouldn't want to put it on Fight Pass the next day because no one would watch it on Fox.

You know what I mean? It's, it's, it makes sense. I'm just going to, I'm going to flip through a fox here and see if they're, there may be replaying it or something like that. I'll try to get an answer for you. This kind of, this kind of ruins the idea in my mind that you listen to my show live every week and you would have already known, you know, what happened? I definitely, I definitely don't.

I'm sorry. Okay, fair enough. I'll be honest. How was Comic Con, by the way? It was a blast. I had a lot of fun. People treat you nice there? Yeah, yeah.

I didn't have any problems. I walked the floor. like a real human being. I mean, I got mobbed in swamps, but, you know, I mean, hopefully everybody was, everybody was happy, you know? I mean, can I ask you some questions, or are we not allowed? I don't know what to do at this point, you know? You can ask me about Comic-Con, okay. I'm just wondering, what are you doing with your life these days? Oh, a little of this, little of that. Yeah, nothing I really want to get into. Okay, laying low? I'm, I mean, you know, I'm laying low, and then you can turn on,

you know, access TV. Yes. me out the red carpet on the alternative press music awards. But yeah, if that's what you consider laying low. Are you trying to take my job? I mean, you do enough good things. I'm trying to take over the world. You know what I mean? My new nickname, Shelby Renaissance, man, hopefully by the end of the year.

All right, fair enough. By the way, Mazel Tov. What? You know what that means, right? Yeah, of course I do. I'm an honorary Jew. You are? Wow, I didn't know that.

Well, because your boy, Cole Cabana is a Jew as a Jew as well. I don't know if... Heyman. Yeah, he's going on and on it. You got married? Yes, I did. I did. That's great.

Yeah, it's the greatest thing I've ever done. I was surprised because you never really seemed like the married type. I mean, you'd always kind of look at me with four heads. I never was. I absolutely never was a marrying type. But you found the right one. Yeah, apparently. All right.

Well, you know, I appreciate you calling in. If you want me to make a trip out there to Chicago, if you need a friend to hang out with, if you need someone to just shoot the breeze, watch some fights, let me know. Well, you know, what we need is, we need another UFC out here in Chicago. Yes.

We got to stack the card. You know what I mean? We got to stack the card. The last one was a little weak, right? It was a little weak, yeah. Are you really going to go to 178? I mean, I'll talk to the wife. See, she can come with.

She's never been to one, you know? Talk to the wife. Yeah, why? What's happened to you? Are you married? I am. But I call the shots. I'm the master of my domain.

Let's be honest here. No, I don't. I don't call any shots. I was just reprimanded earlier before coming into the studio. She's never been to a fight. You've got to bring her out. That is the fight. Connem of Gregor does...

That's what I'm talking about. So, hey, babe, you want to go? You know, see she can get the weekend off of work, and we can go to Vegas and eat room service and watch people punch each other into bloody faces, you know what I mean? Can I just ask you one last thing, because I'm fascinated by this, as someone who comes from that world,

because we talked about him all last week on this show. Connemer Greger, and I know you watched the fight. Is this guy someone that you can get by, does he do well? Because I know you're very critical of the post-fight interview and the way guys sell themselves. Do you get it with this guy? Do you understand why people like him,

or you're still, you're not a believer in him in and out of the cage? I think if anybody doesn't like Conno McGregor, they're probably more than likely somebody that doesn't. doesn't like the smaller fighters. I like him. He's exciting.

I would have been backed into a corner if he fought my friend Cole Miller. I would have been in Cole's corner. You know what I mean? But yeah, I like him. I like what he does. I think he puts pressure on himself. I think anybody who talks that much shit about being good does. And I think he's one of the few that it drives him and it makes him back it up.

And, you know, so far, he's like I said, he's on a role. so you can't take anything away from them. I think fighting needs those guys. They need the brash, you know, braggadocious kind of cocky guys. But it's always good when they can back it up. And so far, he's backing it up. And, you know, he's Irish, I'm Irish, you know, we're all.

You are? I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, wow. An Irish Jew. By the way, who do you think wins? Him or Porier? Geez, I don't know.

When's the last time that Purié fought? I can't even remember. He beat Akira Khorasani in April. Okay. And then prior to that, he beat Diego Brandau, who Connor just beat. Right. Okay. And then who did Connor fight prior to Brando?

In, when was it? Gosh, it was in August of last year now. He beat Max Holloway. That's when he... Okay. That's when he... Well, he just came up. He went off at ACL, and he looked good.

He looked like he had zero problems, so that's always, you know, I mean, let me tell you about something about knee surgery. It's fucking sucks. So it's good. He took the time, and he looked out absolutely 100%. You know what I mean? So, yeah, man, I got to go to this fight, right? Look at all these great matchups.

The return of Dominic Cruz on the card as well, Amanda Nunes versus Katzenegano, Tim Kennedy versus Y'all Romero, and the rumor is that they might be adding one more fight to the card. You've got to go. Oh, sweet. All right. Well, yeah. Like I said, I hope to be there. It would be great time.

Well, good to hear from you. And all the best. Good to be heard from. Yeah, yeah. And thanks for calling in on such short notice. That's amazing. The stars align on this one. Keep in touch, all right?

I'll do my best. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm dead. Anytime I can call in and wish, well, to Daniel Cormier, you, you, Just call me up. He's your number one fan. He's your number one. There's no doubt about it. Thanks a lot, my man.

No problem. Take it easy, guys. All right, there he is. CM Punk, stopping by. The best in the world. Y'all must have forgot. There's my y'all must have forgot of the day. CM Punk stopping by to call and wish the best to Daniel Kormier.

How about that? That was amazing. It is 550. 56 a.m. in Sydney, and Mark Hunt is an unbelievable person because this guy, no matter the time, is willing to come on this show, his favorite show, to join us. This time, to we live an unbelievable knockout in Japan. Mark, good morning to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? You're still in bed. Yeah, me and my wife and my daughter. Oh, my gosh. They must hate me. They must hate me. Good morning. Are they mad at me? Morning.

Oh, good morning. No, we're always up to anyways, you know. It's my favorite show, of course, so you know, got to be up. You know, that reminds me like, that reminds me of my bed. It's, it's, now we have four people. We have me and my two sons. So it's always very crowded in the bed in the morning, right? Well, we normally have our dogs as well with us, but it's not enough room for them anymore.

There's too many kids. The dogs have been bumped. So, again, thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Congratulations on the win. Did you, honestly, did you expect to be able to knock this man out? This is a guy who's only been knocked out once, never in the UFC, and what a KO that was, an uppercut clean and you walked away.

Did you really expect that? Yeah, I can knock anybody out, really, you know, because that's the way I feel about it. Of course, I've got to feel like I'm the best fighter on the road. I probably wouldn't be doing what I'm doing still, you know, so we've got to feel like that's all the time, so, you know, that's what it is. When you landed that punch, did you know right of the first? away. I mean, obviously, moments later, seconds later, you walked away. But could you tell when

you landed it that he was done? Yeah, I could feel that he was done. I was like, I don't think anyone would have got up from that one. I mean, I felt the same sort of feeling a few other times with hitting people. And, you can't really recover from that, from those punches, I think. It was a good shot, man. It was. I'm a little annoyed at the referee. He kind of screwed it up. Did you notice that he bumped into you and made you trip. Yeah. Well, I think I went the wrong way. I said it went the other way and said it that way.

No, actually, he pushed me over. The lady guy bullied me over. It wasn't my fault. He ruined the perfect, you know, perfect good moments. I was like, damn it, why'd you have to ruin it for or not? You're sure. Do you think Roy Nelson fought you the right way? I don't know.

I mean, I, you know, I did, I, I, uh, I mean, I was prepared for anything, really. You know, I did feel bad about poking and roaring the eye. You know, that was a pretty good eye poke. I felt really bad about that, but, you know, I was accidental. But, you know, I mean, I was ready for anything for that fight. You know, I prepared well. The weight cut wasn't that good, but, you know, we prepared well for that fight.

It was good. Let's talk about the weight cut, because as you know, there was some reports that you were 19 pounds overweight, that you were in jeopardy of missing weight, yet you told me that you were okay. Afterwards, as you just said right now, you said it was tough. So were those reports true

that you were 19 pounds over in less than 24 hours? No, they weren't true. You know, I probably about nine or eight, but I wasn't in any trouble at all. You know, I just had to, you know, I was water loading, you know, water loading. And it just had to, it was only two days instead of the last time. was there was four days so you know i told you the truth i wasn't lying about that i was

no of course i was going to make weight you know what uh there's no way in the world that i wouldn't make weight it's that's my job to be on on target and um you know i'm a professional i got to be there on weight all the time so there's no excuses for that do you think maybe your time off go ahead so you know sucks it's not like i'm a small guy that's got uh like those about it, they got no fat on them. You know, I mean, those guys that do it real hard. I got, I got no excuse, you know, because I've got a lot of extra weight anyway, so, you know.

Do you think that your layoff contributed to this, that, you know, because you hadn't fought since December, it was a little tougher? Well, I just started a camp at 153 kilos. That's because I was eating too much chocolate in KFC and hanging out with the kids, you know? But, you know, I just started to camp heavy. And, you know, Alex and I was eating,

all the guys we worked really hard to get the weight down. Did a lot of zoo training. That's all we ever did. And, you know, I made weight. So, like I said, I wasn't going to not make weight. It's not like, you know, I've got not that much weight on me, you know. So, you know, I had to do it anyway, so it was all good. What is it about Japan that always leads to memorable moments for you?

Is there something in the air there? Do you feel more comfortable there? The people, the way they treat you? What is it about that place for you? I've been in Japan like 80 times. You know, I don't mind. fighting anywhere in the world. I just,

you know, I just love Japan fighting in front of the Japanese people. You know, I've been there, like, a lot of, I've built most of my career there, you know,

I was the only guy to win the K-1 outside of Europe over there and, you know, and fight in pride and in dream. That's some of the biggest organizations of the planet,

you know, now it's a headline for UFC. It's, you know, pretty amazing for my country of the fighter, you know? It's great for me to be able to spread the gospel, you know, that's great.

Afterwards, you said that you want to fight in Sydney. That event is November 8th and Sydney, November 7th here in the United States. There aren't a lot of good options out there for you, but since you put it out there, I'm wondering, has anyone contacted you from the UFC about fighting on that card? Well, no, I was contacted me, but I was thinking Josh Barnett for you. When I's taken about Josh Barnett is, you know, he's one up above me and number five,

so, you know, maybe Dana's listening. so maybe he could put me and him on that show on Sydney, you know? I love rematch, man. I've never lost a rematch. And, you know, Barnett, you, my friend, me and you've got a date. That's the one that you like, Barnett. I love that. Well, he's number five in the world, you know.

So, you know, I want to fight guys in the top ten. And, you know, I mean, I like to fight and get closer to that title shop because that's all I'm interested. And my purpose is to try to fight for the world title. And Barnett's above me. So, you know, he's no one's fighting. He's fighting no one. So, you know, Dan, if you're watching, you know, why don't you put him and me together in that show?

Oh, and by the way, Dana watches this show religiously. I mean, he doesn't miss an episode a minute of it. So he's probably watching him. There you go, boss. Me and Biden and Sydney. How about that one? Well, you did fight him once, as you mentioned in July of 2006. You lost that fight.

Is this the fight that you've been wanting for a long time? Or is it just the circumstances, as you mentioned, he's right above you in the rankings? Well, not only. I love rematches, and I've never lost a rematch ever. And it's always something a fighter's got to do. You know, always rematches losses. And Bionette was one of my six losses, you know, coming into EOC. And a rematch is always good for me, any rematch that I've lost to.

So like I said before, I've never lost a rematch. And he's above me and number five. And although I don't even know how those ratings work. but it's one of those things so. So to be clear, though, no one since you've mentioned this that you want to fight on that card has talked to you about any plans or anything like that they haven't reached out to you.

Well, the only person who's contact me is a text man, so that's about all. And me. And you know what Mr. Tzeman, I aren't answering your phone. Call me some other time. If you can't get on that card, for whatever reason, if it's too soon, is that the fight you want next? regardless?

Well, I like the top five guy, you know? If it's not the title shot, I'd give me a top five guy. You know, whether it would be, if it's not in Sydney, give me something in the same, and I'd like to, you know what I mean? By the day, right now he's got no one

taking it, but, you know, I mean, if, um, yeah, I mean, if Bytney's the next, the next fight out would be great for me. He's above me. Right. And I'd like to rematch with him and then get closer to that title shot, you know?

I mean, all the fighters, when I shot at, at, at the title, of course, because, you know, that's what we're here for. You know, that's why we're here. You know, I got to say, I'm not just saying it because you're here. I truly believe that what you, considering what you've done as of late, considering your resume and even your age to a degree in your popularity,

one more win should get you a title shot. I think you've done enough, and I think it's a good time to do that. And you've got to strike while the iron is hot, especially considering the fact that there aren't a lot of contenders in the heavyweight division, clear-cut contenders after Verdoom. Do you believe that one more one, win should warrant you a title shot? Yes, of course.

I think, you know, I think on the cuts of trying to get a title shot, I just need a top five guy. You know, I had their shot last time against JDS, and he knocked me off. You know, but, you know, I'm there about back there again. I just need one more fight, a top five guy, and then I can get back a title shot. So I really feel I'm close to getting a title shot. So, you know, maybe a top five guy or JDS rematch or, you know, Barnet. I'm going to top five, and if I can win, then I can get a total shot.

So that's the way I think, too. Honestly, are you a little surprised by all this? I know you're a very humble guy, but you're 40 years old and what you're doing in the UFC. It's one of the great sports stories out there right now, regardless of the sport. I mean, to do what you're doing, knocking guys out and this comeback after they essentially did not want you and you tried to convince them to take your contract and all that stuff, it's pretty shocking stuff. Did you expect any of this to happen, really? Look, man, I didn't even expect to be a professional fighter.

You know, this is all the only reason why I'm not going to fight it's still a fight is because of Jesus Christ. That's the only reason I believe. There's no other reason why I'm fighting at the top level and doing what I'm doing in my age. Not only just this sport, but this is my second sport, you know? 23 years of fighting someone that didn't want to ever fight ever. Did even know about it and, you know, get spotted outside of a nightclub. Fight someone's the world title in K-O-1 moves on to the best, big, organizations in the planet, you know, and now it's fighting in another biggest organization in

UFC, and nearly at the top to get a title shot. So only God can put that in someone's life, you know? So I, that's the only feeling I have about that. And that's what I truly believe. So, you know, I mean, it's not, it's not Mark Hunt at all. It's, it's, it's my God's shape and what God want to be doing in my life. You've had a lot of great moments. Absolutely. You've had a lot of great moments and a lot of great runs. But is this the most fun that you've ever had? Yeah, because it's it's not about money or anything

anymore. It's about being able to do what I do as a professional fight and I love what I do, what I do. I mean, I mean, it's kind of a funny thing to say, but you know, I feel I've found what my purpose in life, you know, God's purpose

for my life is. And that's all that really matters to me anymore, at all, ever. And you feel like that purpose is to fight? That purpose is to spread his gospel. Okay. And that's all the people watching these shows and this show and saying, wow, how does this old guy do this? Well, it's not this whole guy that's doing it.

It's the power of Jesus. This was doing it for me. You weren't all... And I mean, like I said, I'm still doing what I'm supposed to be doing. So, yeah. And you weren't always this religious. When did this happen? How did it happen?

Well, I've only just, you know, like, I've made many mistakes in my life, you know, and I think the change started coming from inside. three or four years ago. I mean, I've always believed in something bigger, higher, you know, and I'm, you know, the one for a lot of things change, you know, as a kid growing up with nothing and now, you know, getting everything and then being humbled again by God,

so, you know, boy, you better come correct. You know, I'm the boss, you're the boss. Hey, hey, you're the boss. I had the boss, you're the boss. So, you know, I feel this in my heart, and I feel what I'm doing is right. You know, whether I won or lost, it didn't really matter to me, you know.

I mean, as so long as I'm still spreading the gospel throughout the world, the people that don't get to hear the name of Jesus Christ get to hear it from me. How many... That's all... That's all... How many more years do you want to do this for? Have you thought of that?

Well, I'll do this as long as God wants me to do this. You know, I mean, when he says to me, it's time for your finish boy. That said it could be how long, you know? I don't know. I have no clue. Who do you think one's between Cain and Verdume? Go ahead.

You know, my wife, it says to me, you know, Mark, as soon as you start dribbling, you're going in. And I said, what? You go out in the hospital. Get stuff, lady. No, she's a funny lady, this one.

Have you thought about what you'll do once your career is over? I don't really care. At the end of the day, for me, none of us have promised tomorrow anyway. So, you know what I mean? We could finish talking to you and go outside, I get around by bus. It doesn't really matter to me. You know, I mean, all on those is what I just have to live in this moment here. Because when that door opens for the next part of my life,

you know, I have to go and live in that moment. So, you know, right now I'm just enjoying this moment where I'm at today because I can never come back to this moment when God opens the next door in my life. And I know you recently signed a new deal. Are you happy now? Well, like I said, there's not only been about money. I just couldn't do what I was doing before and what I was getting before. So I, you know, I mean, you have to push to get what you, to get by these days.

I mean, money rules are playing, you know. Yeah. And it ain't about money for me anymore, so I mean, stuff the money. Hey, by the way, who's your pick for Doom or Kane? Well, I like both fighters. I mean, Kane's, you know, Kane's the top dogs. So at the moment, I mean, I like to, we have to be Kane. I mean, I mean, of course, for Brescia because he's one of the pride fighters as well.

But still, you know, I mean, it's a hard ass. They're both top fighters. So, you know, who knows, you don't have to sit on the fence again. at that one. I'm sitting on the fence. Kane is, you know, he's the king right now at heavyweight. You feel like you match up well with him? Well, I feel like I have matched up with anybody. I can beat anyone in this division, you know?

I can be there. That's how I feel about this, you know, I've got to feel like this. This is why I'm still here doing what I'm doing. But I feel like this way, why would I still be in this freaking, in this business for, you know? I feel like I'm the best. You know, I want to match with the best. So, of course, I can beat him.

I can beat anybody. You didn't know. could beat anybody. I didn't. I was waiting for that. Your Instagrams are just unbelievable. I wake up in the morning here and I just see like 10 straight Instagram videos from Mark Hunt. They all put a smile on my face. I don't understand half the words you're saying in the Instagrams. You're saying sometimes that you're mean and you didn't know about this and that, but they all cracked me up. Mean is like a kiwi term for like something being really cool. Oh.

You're like that's, yeah, when you see something that's really cool, you go, oh, that's mean. Mean, because. You don't know what I mean. Just some slang from our ways of the world. So, you know, yeah. But hey, man, to all the Instagram followers and the Twitters, and that man might have picked up heaps since the fight. So, you know, thanks for following Mark Hunt. It's great.

You do a great job on social media. Okay, so last thing, I'll let you get back to your family. What should we say to the Army of Doom? Do we need to make another rally for Mark Hunt? Do you really want to get on that Sydney card? Is it more just about the opponent than the card? What's the message out there to the truth? because I know they're listening very intently right now.

Well, for me, I need to get a top five opponent, you know, and if it's in Sydney, yeah, of course. I mean, if it gets me close to the title shot, man, it's rally. But I just, I want to get someone, you know, in the top five. And that's been my next fight or if I can, if it's not that, get a title shot, so, you know. If it's Sydney, then let it be. I mean, I like to get fighting straight away if possible, so, you know. Yeah.

All right. There it is. Mark, I can't thank you enough. And thank you very much to your lovely wife. And I believe, is that your daughter there? Thank you so much. That's nice. Macy.

Oh, so cute. What an angel. Oh, wow. You don't have a car on. Look at those cheeks. I just want to squeeze them. No, I see that for you. I'll do that for you.

No, I was talking about your cheeks. No, I'm kidding. I'll like you to you for you. Mark, thank you so much. Yeah, much love to everyone. I'll talk to you a bit later. All right, thank you. And congratulations on the win.

Oh, cheers. Thanks very much. See you later. Bye. Mark Hunt. What a guy. So appreciative. The man wakes up at 5.30 in the morning in Sydney to join us on a Tuesday morning

alongside his wife and lovely baby. I mean, what more can you say about the Super Simone, the KFC King? That was mean. That was mean right there from Mark Hunt. It means a lot to me. And you know, all those people who say Mark Hunt is not a good interview. How about that? The mermaid and the king, we just have a connection.

You have to understand that. You can't go at him like everyone else. You have to get where he's coming from. We're told now that we are being joined by the champion himself. Chris, the Redeemer Wideman. Chris, are you there? Is that my new nickname? Yes, this is the new nickname.

After you come late on the show, we're giving you your nickname, and we don't care what you think about it. Well, you gave your people over there their own number. Yeah, that's true. All right, well, let's get into it because we wasted some time here. First off, what do you think about your Fox Sports analyst debut? What was it like being on this side of the fence? Yeah, it was cool.

You know, I think I had a good time. The first day, I was definitely thrown off a little bit. It was like, you know, just a little uncomfortable. It's different. You know, you've got people talking in your ear. You have people pointing to different cameras. There's just a lot going on. You've got the wands are so loud.

So there's just so much to think about. I'm not the fact that smoky test at the beginning of it. So it definitely threw me up a little bit. But by the second day, I did feel a lot more comfortable. I felt like I had some really good segments that I had some not so good segments. But overall, good experience. I would do it again, but I'm not, I don't plan on doing it, you know, as a routine, maybe every once in a while, maybe once a year.

or something like that. Is it safe to say, though, that you have more of an appreciation for the media now, for the people who do it, you know, in front of the TV, radio and whatnot? I mean, it seemed like before

you were kind of taking us for granted, maybe now you can appreciate us. No, no appreciate us. No. Yeah, that's what I thought. You guys, if that's what you want to do for, you know, you should be good at it.

I have no appreciation for you. All right, fair enough. But I think you did a great job, and as time went on, you got more comfortable, and it seemed like you have, you had a fun time. What did you think of being there in, you know, in Las Vegas front row for the Connor McGregor

show? Did you enjoy it? Were you blown away? Were you expecting that kind of a following for him? It's absolutely crazy. You know, I watched you know, I watched when he's born in Ireland and obviously it was absolutely nuts over there just through the TV screen that you could get that feel like how crazy it must have been to be there. But for him to have, you know, I think he has like

three-get-four-fights UFC, Corier has like double of the amount. For him to have so much more fans than Poyer. Over here in America, I mean, Americans are cheering for him, and then you got all these Irish guys coming over cheering for up too. You know, Americans don't, the one country that doesn't really, they don't cheer for them, you know, for their own. You know, they won't just stick with Americans.

You know, I feel like Americans need to get better with that. Wow. And I feel like the smaller countries, other countries, They cheer. They support their people no matter what. The All-American is calling out the Americans. I like it. Yeah, we need to get a little bit more supportive of our people, for sure.

I feel like America, we just have so much going on. There's so many people to support that sometimes that, you know, America, we really are good at a lot of different things. You know, there's a lot of great stars and so many different things. And some of the other countries don't have that. So when they get somebody, they support them to their debt. you know, America, I think we take some events in terms. Wow. Strong words from the champions.

Speaking of which... Hey, listen, I fought all these, you know, on top of the United, anybody from Brazil is supporting their people. Sure. And they're all supporting them. Leo, and she did, they're all supporting them. I didn't have the full support of America. I had great support. I love my fans, but it's not every American was rooting for me because I was American.

If they were rooting for me, they were just a fan of me. there was a lot of fans from America that were that are cheering for Anderson-Silver and cheer for the end of the Do you think that's a good thing about it? Do you think it's a good thing about MMA that, you know, typically the fans just root for their favorite guy or girl and they don't really, you know, they don't really focus on where you're from and you don't often hear the USA, USA Chance.

You hear them from time to time, but not like in other sports. Maybe that's a good thing. I guess, you know, I guess that they support more of, you know, Yeah, exactly, more of the style and what they do. But it's only America that does that. You know, if you're from Germany and there was, you know, what's the guy's name, Diver? Dennis Siever. Sevar.

You're a champion for him. Yeah. You're tuning to watch him. When you're from America, you're not necessarily tuning in to just watch him. There's so many of them, too. So it's kind of interesting. Well, I'll tell you what, if you want to become Canadian, we'll accept you with open arms, and we really stick by our guys.

So just something to think about. Now, on the post-fight show, Connor showed up with the belt, and he sat there with the belt. You weren't in that segment, but I know you were right there. As champion, as someone who earned that title and had to go through many fighters to do so

and obviously beat the greatest of all time, does that bother you when he just kind of walks around with it as a prop? Not really. I'm not that guy who, like, you know, things like that. No, I mean, the belt is just something. You know, I don't, he's not champion. So for him to walk around with the bell, I thought it was funny.

I'm a, after this weekend, you know, when I watched him Island, you know, I started kind of, you know, slightly, you know, becoming a fan of Connor, but I wasn't 100%. So that's his weekend. I'm a fan. I love the way he talks. He's fighting. He's backing it up. He really, he's a full package.

It's going to be interesting now to see how he does against, you know, the top guys in the vision. I know where he was, but I like to see him now and get him. against like a wrestler, because that seems to me just by watching a type of guy, an American-type wrestler is a guy who's going to give him trouble. I'm interested to see if they're going to match him up with someone like that. Yeah, me too. I think that's the big question right now. Okay, let's talk about you. And specifically, I want to talk about Vitor Belford, and of course, you're not going to be fighting at UFC 181 on December 6. You had to pull out due to the fractured hand. We'll get them a second. But I want to get to the juicy stuff first. This is what

Vitor Belford told the Brazilian media late last week. He said, quote, I think that all title holders who have more than one injury, the UFC should create an interim title in their divisions. Nobody would lose. Not the fans, not the fighters, not the UFC, only the injured athlete. Injuries are a part of the

sport because we have to train at a high level pace, but hurting himself twice in a row, and that's you, with such little time in his career, are you kidding me? To me, he just wanted to keep his belt during Christmas, and that was the only way, end quote. Did he actually speak this or did he have someone very far?

Well, this, I don't know how the interview was conducted. It was conducted in Portuguese. This is the translation. I'm guessing it was done, you know, via telephone or in person, but that's just a guess. Why does it matter? Because it just doesn't sound like him. Well, also, he said it in Portuguese, so there's a translation, certain words. But what do you make of the main?

I just, what I take from it is, if he's just actually looking to talk some smack, he's looking to juice up the fight a little bit, but there's no substance than that at all. This is a guy who, he's talking about, I just fought in July. This guy, doesn't make any sense. It's not like I've been off for a year. I just fought in July. This guy hasn't fought it since November. And I was, I was actually, we were lined up the fight.

We were supposed to fight in July, and he had to pull out of the fight. do we know why he had a lot of fight? Yeah, he's freaking, he felt a drug test. So this guy's failing drug test, and he is a dastity, he doesn't start talking junk about me not fighting. He hasn't pushed in November.

So what if he gets a belt? What's going to happen with that? So he just makes no sense. That's basically about much. So you just laugh it off? No truth to the rumor that you wanted to keep the belt through Christmas. You know what?

To be honest with you, at this point, I'm going to have a lot of fun. I'm going in there, to embarrass him. This is not going to be a close fight. I'm going to completely embarrass him in that cage. I'm going to make him look like an old man with him away. Did he make him...

Because he looks like, I'm going to try to embarrass him now. Because of this, did he piss you off? It just gave me more of a reason to completely embarrass him. That's it. I'm not truly pissed off. It really honestly doesn't affect me too much, but it just gives me a little nudge to say, all right. It makes me easy for me to talk.

In my mind, always wanted to embarrass him, but now I'm saying I'm going to embarrass. And when you say embarrassed, like, what exactly does that mean? What does that mean as far as Chris Wyman was concerned? I want to completely toil. Wow. I want to beat him up standing. I'll throw him on his butt, smack him with his mouth a couple times when he's on the ground,

maybe go for submission, make him almost tap, and then let him stand up, beat him up on his feet, take him down again, just completely just make him mockery of him. Wow. I haven't heard you speak like that before. He really pissed you off. He didn't piss me off. I'm just, I'm just, I'm very, I'm very confident, and I just think, um, I wanted to, in this fight, it's a good opportunity for me to just show that I'm heading, heads and tails above the rest of the division. I just want to, I want to separate my, separate myself from the division.

Every, every single fight, I always said that. I always said I wanted to separate myself from everybody else. And that's always the goal. And so this is a fight, this is a fight where I have to make a point to do that. Let me ask you this. Are you 100% certain that you fought Leotomachita with a fractured hand? Because you told me that it was an old injury. How can you know for sure that you actually fought that fight with a fractured hand?

Yeah, three weeks before the fight, I got an MRI. I was falling with a boxer three weeks before. hit hit a punch and my hand started like obviously was hurting me and I was thinking all right it's going to go away the next day I'm going to move my hand I'm like I'm not going to go to the train on this this might be worse and I thought so I went to got an MRI and got an x-ray and x-rayed amy and x-ray came back that it was just a spraying of inflammation but at the time when I had the injury a lot of times when you hit your hand you're you might feel the pain in a different area than where you're actually injury is and that's why I was telling

the doctor that I felt out on another part of my hand and where the injury actually was. I kept training. I couldn't hit the pads. I couldn't hit pads. I couldn't spar for those last three weeks. Even in the locker room, I was trying to save it to the locker room. And even the week of the fight, I was actually trying to save my hand to the week of the fight so I could hit pads of the way. That's all I really cared about because that's something obviously we do at the time. And when we got to the fight, I tried to hit pads. And there was all these cats, there was a very stressful situation. You got to realize I was working out in the UFC gym, Lorenzo and Dana's personal gym. I have all these camera crews following around in the UOC, you know, some of them work for the U.S.C.

And now I'm like, right, here we go. I'm going to start hitting pads, my routine, you know, to start, you know, get the rust off. And as I start handing pads, I threw one jab and felt that I threw a second jab. And I got all these people watched me in. As soon as I threw a second jet, my hand basically became paralyzed. And it didn't heal, whatever, that spring that I thought it was, wasn't healed. And now I'm trying to hide it from all these cameras because now I can't punch punch pads. I was a mental midget at that point.

I was just like, I didn't know what to do. I couldn't, I was kicking, but my mind, my mind wasn't in the work. I had my mind wasn't in the workout. I'm all the thing was like, how am I going to throw off a freaking functional fight? Wow. And basically, so that was like three days before the fight. I couldn't touch, I literally touched that. So in the locker room, we didn't even hit that.

We just, I just moved around. I tried to do some grappling. And I was figured, figured if I'm going to, it's just a sprain. I figured if I'm going to do it if I'm going to, you know, hurt. I'm going to hurt in this fight. I don't care. A gentleman will get me through it. I'll throw it in the fight. If more damage happens, whatever, after the fight, you get a fixed. So whatever, after the fight, you know, my hand obviously was still hurt, and it just never was healing, never was healing. I got it extra rate again. I got an MRI. I went out to L.A. The UFC

got me doctors, and they found that it was broken. They said it was an old injury. Then we'd go back to my old MRI force through issue for the fight, and they find out it was broken all along. So that's how I know it was broken. Yeah, so it was broken. I had the same fraction. I have now through three weeks before the fight. And in the fight... They say that in a hand, it's very hard to see fractures a lot of the time. And I guess they're looking at a different spot

where they should have really been focusing that with the MRI. Even though you can see it now, they were focused on the well part because I'll tell them the pain is somewhere else. So I'm not blaming the doctors that people will look at it as much, but yeah, I had a fracture hand. How much did it bother you during the fight?

It's also a blessing in the skies because I would have to pull out of the fight. Right. If they throw the fracture, I would have not fought Leo of Machita. I think it was a great growing fight for me. Am I happy that I go to Disney Town and get a finish. And I hope, but it was a great exchange fight for me. I think Leo of Machita is not the best matchup for me.

And I thought it was a great fight for me. Yeah, because you always say if you have a full training camp, you'll finish the fight. You had a full training camp, didn't finish the fight. Now we might know why, but how much did it actually bother you in the actual fight? Like, were you in a tremendous amount of pain during the fight as well? No, I have zero excuses. I'm not blaming the other hand.

I wasn't able to train and stuff like that, but during the fight, I don't know if it was adrenaline or not, the fractured hand in. I don't feel much. So I'm not. There's 100% credit to the cheetah. It was a great fight. You look at a guy like Mighty Mouse. He's so active as a champion, and you've had your bumps and bruises.

Do you have any explanation why? I mean, you had the knee and that was a lingering injury. Now the hand. Do you have any explanation? why you're... Yeah, but, I mean, as a bigger guy, they don't... You have to realize...

I didn't... I haven't been out for, you know, for my knees, that was a four or six weeks recovery. Mm-hmm. I pushed a fight. I literally pushed a fight back,

I think, a month. Exactly. Mm-hmm. So I had a fight that was scheduled in June, and we moved it to July. Pretty sure that's what it was, right? Yeah.

No, it was end of May. It was end of May. So, yeah, they're willing to... They gave me fights, and I think, me, I think for the bigger guys, I feel like Anthony Silver and Little Machita, these are a huge fight. Money Mouse, there's a lot of promotions that goes into my fight, I think. I think that's why I'm not fighting as much.

My injury is, like, so now I have injured hand. I have a cat-up for four or six weeks. So since I've been champion, I've been out a total of two months with injury. So it's not like I'm out for six months, you know, or anything like that. Is it true that you could come back a bit earlier, but it was their idea that? to make the fight in February because, of course, everything's taken up.

I would have fought, I would honestly love, I think I would be good to fight at the end of the December that New Year's Eve part, but I think it's, everything's booked. The pay-reviews

and the main events are, you know, the, I mentioned to, Dana Lorenzo, even February, February 4th, like the Super Bowl weekend,

and they said, you know, Anderson Silver and if he has a funny. So I'm getting, I'm getting pushed. forward. I'm going to push more back and I obviously would like to go.

I'm going to be staying in shape and everything. I could have potentially been okay to fight this fight now. But the thing is, when I get my cast off, what if it's not broken, then I'm three weeks out. You know, so, I mean, what if it's still not fixed? That's the problem. They can't risk it. Four weeks from now, I mean, three weeks from now,

I get my cast off and it's still fractured. You know, they have to keep the cast on, no two weeks then. Then I'm in trouble. So, and then there's time the doctor needs to clear you out, and they need two weeks after you to the castle to actually clear you. So that's the problem. You made that...

I know I'm more over the place. No, no. My green tea's kicking him. No, no, it's great stuff. You made that joke about the TRT and TNT. Are you fully expecting to just see a different fighter out there because he's not on TRT anymore? Well, there's no question he's not going to be the muscle answer.

We've always seen V12,000 look like. he's still, you know, he's still going to be, you know, in shape fighter. He's definitely taking the series. He's going to want to prove a lot of people wrong that, you know, it wasn't the TOT that made him a great fighter in his last three fights where he's got a little bit. So he's going to have a lot of food. I can't go out there expecting a bum, which, you know, it's vetoed, man.

This guy has a great career. He's done a lot of great things. He's a great fighter. So I'm not going out there thinking I'm facing a thumb. I'm going to have a great test in front of me. and I'm even going to expect even more to that. He's always been a guy who's had to kind of hold in from exploding really fast because he's probably going to be afraid of getting tired because he has so much muscle on his body.

There's only so much, you know, the lack of the gas is going to fill up the more muscle you have. You're going to get tired of just right. So he's going to have less muscle now, which might make him easy. He might be able to do more things freely without the fear of getting tired. So I'm expecting a tough test. You know, it's going to be different. He's cardio going to be better. So do I, am I going to go out there?

I'm going to try to embarrass him, yes. But I try to do that every fight. You know, I try to completely dominate my opponent. And that's going to be the goal in this fight without a doubt. One more thing before I let you go. The division is very interesting. Jacques-Rae won earlier this month against Gaguer Musassi, of course. Yolo Romero, you saw it in person.

First, Jacaree, what do you think of him? Do you think he should be next in line? You said, Yo, Romero versus Jacare? No, no, no. Jacques-Rae. Jaceréi thinks that he's the number one contender, according to his manager. Do you think that he has done enough to be next in line?

Or as champion, would you like to see him fight one more time? I don't know. I don't think anybody should be sitting out. I don't think that happened. He should be fighting. I don't, I haven't, like, looked at all the guys in the division and looked at the records and their win streets and all that stuff. So I don't know.

You definitely know way more than me. I don't keep my eye on the division as much as prior to my thing. I know he beat Gerard. He beat Musathi. But I don't really know what he did before that. I can't really, you know, I think. So I don't know. I think I know him, Rockhold, you know,

the Tim Kennedy-O-Romerer winner was going up there, which was obviously a crazy, crazy outcome. Who else is up on top? I don't know. Well, I would say those are the main guys. You know, Jacques Re has wins over Chris Comosi. He beat Ocami. He beat Francis Carmel.

And just recently he beat Ghega Musassi. Romero is a beast. Of course, you talked about him very well on the Wayans show that this was a guy that you knew about as a youngster because he beat your hero, Kail Sanderson. Does he concern you at all just because of his wrestling, because of his power, or do you think that he has shown some holes in his game? I think he definitely showed some hold in his game in his left. But to be honest with you,

you know, when you're at the event, you're not sure what really happened. But the thing that, if you just look at the event, I saw the guy Robin Black. That's the guy that's in Canada, right? He broke it down. He basically said it's 100% of the ref's fault. The guy was sitting on the school and the time ran out. The rep has to tell him to come out.

If the rep doesn't tell me he'd come out. Oh, I think the rep did tell him come out, but he didn't call the fight when Yol didn't stand up, right? I think something like that, he said. Basically, if you're on that school and you're told the rep tells you stand up, I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but either way, the guy got 28 seconds extra time, supposedly. So he had a minute and 28-second break when he was completely rocked to Harley Stan for that fight. The ending was just absolutely bizarre. I mean, it should have been cold if you're going all. what, you know, Robin Black was saying,

and it should have been stopped. Tim Kennedy should have been the winner, and the next thing, no, he's getting knocked out. Yeah. It was very, uh, I do feel really bad for, uh, Tim Kennedy. And I'm not 100%, uh,

I don't really know if it's Joe Romero's fault. I think it might be just the rest of it. Okay, here's the last thing. Quote, look, besides returning well in 2015, my project in the UFC is only one. I won't stop fighting until I get my belt back. I want to at least try, end quote. That was Anderson.

and Silva last week in Brazil. Do you think there's any chance? They match you up against him a third time? Oh, there's definitely a chance. You know, I don't know. I'm not calling out into Silver. That's good. You know, I fought him.

I flown twice. I would feel bad to be even going to be pulling him out. I just feel like I think he's going to focus on some bigger. I think he should just focus on kind of gas and big money fights and try to get some ws and leave on a good note. see you. I'm a fan of Innsa Sova. I don't want to see him setting these goals for himself and losing and then his legacy is not what it should be. I want him to end on a good note for sure. All right. Chris, thank you very much for the time. Great work this weekend. Get well soon with

the hand looking forward to your turn. By the way, I didn't ask you this. Do you have a specific date when the fight will be or not yet? No, no specific date, but they said some time that's really nothing set. No place to set yet. should be interesting. Probably waiting for MSG. Hey, I just want to say, anybody who supports me out there, I really appreciate it.

So keep on supporting. I'm going to keep proving you guys right. All right. There is the champ. Thank you very much, Chris. Appreciate it and get well soon. All right. Take care.

There he is. The one and only UFC. Middleweight champion, the Redeemer himself, Chris Wyman. Great stuff, saying he wants to embarrass Vitor Belford. How about that?

Love it. All right. that was a lot of fun, a look back at the best of 2014, and now we get to say goodbye for the year. 2014 in the books, 2014 in the books. Perhaps one of the worst years for the UFC, a difficult year for all MMA promotions, there were ups, there were downs, but for the MMA hour, my friends, it was a pretty darn good year. I don't know if we're going to top this. Quite frankly, I'm considering just shutting down the show because I'm pretty concerned that we're not going to be able to top this. But I want to wish you all a happy new year. I love the song. It always gives

me goosebumps. It makes me think about life. It makes me think about why I love you all so much. Please don't shut down the show. This is what life is all about. This song. Odd Lang Sign. Sin? Sign. I love it. Do you like it too? I've never heard this version. I know. I kind of picked a bad version. A bit of a contemporary version. But it's soothing. Yeah. I like it. But please, the MMA must go on.

Your favorite moment of the year right now? Matt Serra in studio. Wow. Will, your favorite moment of the year? Chris Wyden rejected my nickname. Yes. Chris the Redeemer. Alex, your favorite moment of the year?

Oh, yeah. Bill Steinmetz. KFC sponsorship. KFC sponsorship. What a year it was. I love the fact that you guys don't even mention any of my interviews. You like the periphery stuff. And you know what?

I respect it. My favorite one of the year? Getting to do this show every Monday. Even though I'm tired, just flew back from God knows where, talking to all of you, reacting, talking to the fighters, them coming on the show. I'm so thankful for that. And I'm so thankful that you guys tune in every Monday, or maybe if it's Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever, just the fact that you keep tuning in and we actually get to do a show like this.

Pretty unprecedented show, if I may say so, myself. It's great. I love it. and I can't wait to do it for many years to come. You can hit my music. 2014, only hours left. More importantly, though, that means that we are just hours away now from UFC 182,

which is fun year-end show, but it's happening at the beginning of the year, which is always fun. Now, I'll make no secret. I'm not technically here right now in December 29, So I'm hoping that the fight that we all want to happen is actually going to happen on January 3rd. If you catch my drift, but I won't jinx us. How about that? 2015 shaping up to be a remarkable year for the UFC when you think about the fights that are already scheduled for January, February,

and beyond the fights that are very close to being matched up or that we have a sense that they're going to happen. And then, of course, at some point, hopefully, the debut of the Best in the World, CM Punk. I mean, there's a lot to look forward to when it comes to the UFC. And let's not even get started about Belator with all they're doing. New era, new schedule. It's going to be a lot of fun. I predict that if all goes to plan, 2015 can be the very best year in the history of this sport. It can beat 2013.

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