MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca #100 | Caos no Japão + semana cheia no UFC, ONE e PFL

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

O Trocação Franca chega à centésima edição trazendo os bastidores do quebra-pau envolvendo os irmãos Pitbull e Kleber Koike durante o evento Bellator x RIZIN no Japão, e entrevistas exclusivas... com os brasileiros que lutam este fim de semana no UFC, ONE e PFL: Marcus Buchecha, John Lineker, Gabriel Braga, Jessica Bate Estaca e Diego Lopes. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca celebrates its 100th episode by bringing all the details involving the locker room brawl between the Pitbull brothers and Kleber Koike during Bellator vs. RIZIN in Japan. Plus, interviews with Brazilians scheduled to fight over the weekend at UFC, ONE, and PFL: Marcus Buchecha, John Lineker, Gabriel Braga, Jessica Andrade and Diego Lopes. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Hello, lo, amigued, a centeem episode of podcast, Trocacausanne a new house over MMA
Starting point is 00:02:34 in this immense polar sphere. I'm Gailam Cruz, correspondent of the website American and M.M. Fidel in
Starting point is 00:02:38 Brazil, and the end of the interview this week, I'd appreciate to all of my 15 or 20
Starting point is 00:02:45 to accompany in these last few seven years. A we talked with many people important in
Starting point is 00:02:50 the world MMA and nothing of the world of the world of the way to comeemoration this mark
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'll I'd nothing than six interviews this week and I go to
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'm going to get to be the last the last year of the He also. He's a part of Patrice of 2022, is a partner of
Starting point is 00:03:29 of Robert Satos who had had been for a knockout for Patrick more early. The pal can't on vestiario
Starting point is 00:03:36 and I'll bring here a perspective of Patrick and the clubber, about all the he rolled there.
Starting point is 00:03:41 The first was up on the time, the time, after the time after the
Starting point is 00:03:47 time for a interview exclusive. With a the word the first, the part
Starting point is 00:03:52 he was he was on the channel of YouTube he said on the podcast and I
Starting point is 00:03:59 three or four days after I was three or four days after I'm so I don't let's get this bitch so what
Starting point is 00:04:07 that's a matter for this bitch no I didn't I'm in the corn of Patrice I'm I was
Starting point is 00:04:15 he passed all done he was all he was all he passed all done he was he made
Starting point is 00:04:19 I imagine that he was to get this last last this Patrick Venns Venned he I made with Patrice
Starting point is 00:04:27 to take the on the then I went to when Patrice was when I looked at him
Starting point is 00:04:33 he was he was he he was I was to see how Patrice was
Starting point is 00:04:40 then I went to the corner the corner I looked to him and said you are
Starting point is 00:04:46 a paw in the coward I will do you go down you go
Starting point is 00:04:48 I he was I like you he was you and he was quiet.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And when I was down the ring, Patricio went to the other side, and I went to him. Then I came to him and I said, you're a coward, you're saying, oh, you're a cow-no-cuh, a coward, of the carl. And he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:05:07 I, what was what I did? You're saying, you're saying, you're saying, my brother, your pal-no-no-cuh. Then I gave with the two hands on the peathe and I, I went, and I went to the vesti-eart. Then I went to the vesti-erreart.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm here, I'm sitting at the cost, he enters. I found Robert Satoshi in the courthole of in the courthole of the vestiaire and I said to him, oh my man-a-law, I'm like to you, Cleb is a pawn-no-cook-alvarer do carlory
Starting point is 00:05:37 commemorating there all the other than my brother, the first he was talking about the mess on the internet then Satosh went and said, he said, hey, Cleb is me complicated, he, he goes to do some things like, he, I said, oh,
Starting point is 00:05:49 I said, oh, I'll say, if he wants to say a mess, he came to me, and my my brother, and he doesn't be with a covardia, no. After Robert, Paterio went there, he was, say, with a guy of choro, I was
Starting point is 00:06:00 crying, I was crying. Patricio, appreciated to him, for the team of his team of his own the lute. Then, then, I came to this puttaree,
Starting point is 00:06:10 my man, Cleb is a coward, paw on the cuh. I'd say he, if he wants to come to say to me, he'll be here, he's here,
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm sitting in vestiary, of the coast, I was in the lot, that was going to with the guys, when I saw, when I saw,
Starting point is 00:06:23 he said, he said, he said, when he said, that I went to look back and he's he pulling with
Starting point is 00:06:29 a shoot of my peat. Then, my man, it started a brie of the rome in the
Starting point is 00:06:35 vestiar, but he started a put a-o-o-o- -and-a-pour-a- more than 30 people in the vestiars
Starting point is 00:06:41 here. We tried to see some things here, even, but he I'll goreel. I went to go to gore
Starting point is 00:06:52 back to the interview with Kleber Koeh direct to Japan. See, yeah. Total side of the line, we have Clever Koi ex-campion of the Risen. In the last week, we've had a vetting of Bellator in Japan. There were luts of Patrick Pitbull, of your friend, Robert Satoshi.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But you've got been one of the personalities more followed in the news social. After the Patricio commented of a trita that he
Starting point is 00:07:23 did the vestiary and I wanted to you know who didn't not not even
Starting point is 00:07:27 not never not left the house the social my
Starting point is 00:07:32 how is how it is the the the whole there's a confusion
Starting point is 00:07:36 about a shrew a shhhh about all all
Starting point is 00:07:40 good good good all good good all I really
Starting point is 00:07:45 I didn't I I'm I didn't I I think that this
Starting point is 00:07:50 not was the more correct. But, but the brothers were the people are expecting the response to
Starting point is 00:07:56 my response to I'm here to pronounce it. As I'm we've we've got like,
Starting point is 00:08:02 we've got to people, and for me when you see, you know, you don't bring to
Starting point is 00:08:06 social, you don't to talk to to people. So, for me, for me, it was
Starting point is 00:08:10 a brig so for so I'm not, I'm not question, and I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:08:16 have been a lot people there I'm going to know the other side, so I'd prefer to make this commentary in brief. Seguidda, I'd make the line of the time,
Starting point is 00:08:26 imagine that you'd have come back after that you've been able, and the Patrick, apparently, became suretied, that you commemorated to, you know, the briga never comes, and the I didn't know that was a bigger,
Starting point is 00:08:42 to be, to be, to say, to you, to start all, to say, more brief as possible. It's a little video that I grab on my channel of YouTube, as everyone knows, I have a channel
Starting point is 00:08:52 on YouTube here in Japan. In Japan, how you have in Japan, in Japan, in Japan, say,
Starting point is 00:08:58 say, and say, it's normal, who can't who end, who can't I have a my channel
Starting point is 00:09:02 on YouTube, and here in Japan, all of the other people, I'm doing on the
Starting point is 00:09:08 YouTube, how will be, who will be, so this is a thing a thing normal, so,
Starting point is 00:09:14 point, moment, I went to the Even in a video of my channel, I I say that I trust for him, that I think he will get a lot against the E.D. And then, it's where it's
Starting point is 00:09:23 where it's the other time when the Patricia came to look here in Japan with me. There was a man who helped him, they were a Japanese, and this time, Patricio received a proposal of a YouTuber, which is a guy very famous,
Starting point is 00:09:39 called Mikura, are two brothers. They are very famous here. As I said, I'll repeat this, because the guy not know. They have more than a million and a half of followers in the YouTube and they're in
Starting point is 00:09:51 middle of the year is a lot of content of YouTube and into the platform like Instagram not like the guy is a guy famous in Brazil
Starting point is 00:10:01 has say there 10 million 10 million I don't say like how many many millions of here not here one person
Starting point is 00:10:07 with a million is very popular so you resume so this guy tweeted he is a he is an adversary direct
Starting point is 00:10:15 you We're not going to say in a big, but we're the invas I won't have a two years ago. He was a character that has a popularity very great. And when I announced the
Starting point is 00:10:28 Lutory of Patrick against the A.J., he went there and took away to and went to Japan. I help him financially, I'm doing a car, the food, food, etc. Resummed,
Starting point is 00:10:40 all the brothers will train with him and the brothers say some comments that if the Pitchiego will go that they can to Brazil, that they will give
Starting point is 00:10:48 a supporter for him to do like a saccharateau to go to go to Jiu-Gits and stuff and so. Until then,
Starting point is 00:10:55 okay. So, when I go make a comment on my channel, I say, I'm just about this, I say,
Starting point is 00:11:01 poach, the brothers Bichibha other day, they were with Raguara. Now, they are with
Starting point is 00:11:07 the brothers Me Kura to Sakura. They're with the brothers to Saku-A- and is it
Starting point is 00:11:14 all-bye- for the Raguara? Because the Mikura is doing them, they're doing them, they're in Moradji, and all right,
Starting point is 00:11:21 then the guy that's doing with me, he's a little Japanese, he's a thing a professional, it's normal,
Starting point is 00:11:27 I'm saying, no, there's a thing to be a poor, you can't, and this I do a risada.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And then I say, but I'm saying, but I'm trying to, like, a guy,
Starting point is 00:11:39 going to the team of Asak is my company, I'm trying to him, and he's trying to
Starting point is 00:11:44 the way, and where he's the start a big, because the traditor
Starting point is 00:11:47 of him, the rapace that's a man who is a person who don't say a porre
Starting point is 00:11:52 no, I don't say I'm sure, I live here 20 years, I don't know
Starting point is 00:11:56 the language, the Japanese not perfect, it's right, I have people that are Japanese, that is Japanese
Starting point is 00:12:04 that's a Japanese, I have a traditor always for just the person, for justami
Starting point is 00:12:08 for just the Japanese. There's a Japanese, who does the time to know the Japanese. So,
Starting point is 00:12:14 let's this rapist go to the other people and he's talking that I'm talking that the
Starting point is 00:12:19 men, the other men in the video, that they are going to get to money. First,
Starting point is 00:12:25 in Japan there's a word putta. In Japanese, no exists this word.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Ponto. Second thing, he says, I said, I said, I said that the
Starting point is 00:12:36 men, he's been the people, that they are men, that they are mercenaries,
Starting point is 00:12:41 and they are with a Sakura for the moment I've seen these words so he was very infelise
Starting point is 00:12:49 to all the Japanese that's seeing this video today does he says man the the guy who injected
Starting point is 00:12:56 the maldade there to have this this drug was this was this rapist no moral
Starting point is 00:13:04 no no no country won't a championship jiuitso never got a event of you
Starting point is 00:13:09 for you know he lute a event here like it's like it's like a big of a rick.
Starting point is 00:13:13 This is what he lute here. You have noce how he noce he don't have
Starting point is 00:13:31 he's a value that's I was, I was bravo to me. How they're cordial with me,
Starting point is 00:13:47 that they're cordial to the other people, he's a man, Martin Stoche, who's, if he really
Starting point is 00:13:51 had shatio because I found them in a hotel, I encountered at a reunion of Revenue, for what they
Starting point is 00:13:58 didn't come to say, Plerc, you were infelice in the words, I don't
Starting point is 00:14:01 I don't think you I'm not if you were if I'd ask you say, oh,
Starting point is 00:14:07 sir, I'd say, oh, sir, if any one of of them would be any of
Starting point is 00:14:11 me and if I said this, because I didn't know the story. I would say, Professor, I'd say, but this mulek, he solved on Twitter, saying, the Kleber, I even thought of Kleber, but the Kleber was infelis in the words. So, I became saying, and then, they're going to
Starting point is 00:14:27 say, no, I'm going to my channel, it's, this, this, this, and the Japanese came, and really, no longer to do. So I'm saying, this is the only thing that I knew, but if I knew, that they were actually, that they were a putt with me, that they were putt with me, Well, with
Starting point is 00:14:41 I was sure I would talk with me to I found out of I found I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:14:45 I'm when the brother of them he's going to let's the first I'm a lot for a month
Starting point is 00:14:51 before I go to go to tele-expectator because I am the the next defiant
Starting point is 00:14:58 for the title the title that I pre did for not have been
Starting point is 00:15:01 a month after all the whole everybody all the people I'm
Starting point is 00:15:06 I still I'm still the title I'm not the title I the actual champion, and I am I sold as a champion
Starting point is 00:15:12 even. The Raisy's he pronounced and he puted the title for two guys that was a lot of in a main event
Starting point is 00:15:21 that is this Mikura against the Kereamon to dispute the centuron, I was my I was my own, so
Starting point is 00:15:26 they were that I was to go to the event, and who would be the next disaffiante.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Ponko, for this motive, I would be in the event and would be sat sat in the
Starting point is 00:15:38 first the first filer. Because as that's the event, everyone would know that I'm the
Starting point is 00:15:44 next a new defiant. So, second thing, I was in term.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Let's go just a part, I went in the gymasio, he was the
Starting point is 00:15:54 last time, the second of Satoshi, and then I was I've been tele-spectator.
Starting point is 00:16:01 So, I, as I senten in the first fielder to see the event.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And as I said, I was of Terno, I have a patrocino of a alfattaria here in Japan. I think it's that it's right. It's a lot of Fattaria of Terno. It's a guy that me
Starting point is 00:16:17 patrocine and he always when I go in some an occasion special, at a lot of Rays, they ask them to me start on TERN, if you pushar in the story of RISE, all the days that I will talk when I'm in the gymas, I'm
Starting point is 00:16:30 still in TOR. So, he thinks that I affronted them, putting the Tern, sitting on the first filer to see the the
Starting point is 00:16:39 picture of the Patrick and then I'm the stopin too because I'm in the
Starting point is 00:16:47 first you if you're going to get a lot like the Riser and I said it
Starting point is 00:16:51 will be Patrice the the Tihiro not is the level of him I always
Starting point is 00:16:55 I never I don't I think that this but I think they not they don't
Starting point is 00:16:59 not they're not all I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:17:05 my comment but don't I don't for any of those two. When happened
Starting point is 00:17:09 the Lutu the Chiru Lokaljou the pitbull, the gymnasia interdisabot I never had seen
Starting point is 00:17:16 this. So I as a spectator, I became surprised but not for the
Starting point is 00:17:23 pitibu and not for have seen the but it was because nobody
Starting point is 00:17:28 expected this I think that everyone who got who people who
Starting point is 00:17:31 didn't think that never was that was the a starla of Japan, man.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He localedio, the best-per-p-pense for the UFC. And, boy, this was surprising for everyone, po. So, like,
Starting point is 00:17:44 in the hour that I commemorate, it was, it was a surprise, for what was a surprise,
Starting point is 00:17:52 I never did it, I never did it in Japan. Everyone knows that in Japan are very
Starting point is 00:17:57 educated, the people and the dinas entire, disaboo, and not not,
Starting point is 00:18:03 not, not, not, surprise, too, because, I was the last a month
Starting point is 00:18:06 after I was a time in I'm a I'm trying to do you know in three minutes so you know you don't
Starting point is 00:18:12 you're not you're not knowing that he got to lockoutial the better piece by the world for the FEC
Starting point is 00:18:18 and then he came on the ring he came up memorand I don't know that he had all this
Starting point is 00:18:24 confusion that he was put to he comes to show he comes to move to me offending
Starting point is 00:18:27 and me offender and in the way I'm just saying a comment of this a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And I'm doing a way the time he went to and I don't talk about the issue like he to talk about
Starting point is 00:18:42 the subject of me and I'm saying to talk about a lot with more five people, he Ed Soares the trainer
Starting point is 00:18:49 of box his guy who came to help him to do his sparrie the patrice and more
Starting point is 00:18:55 a medic I think he's a medic of his own who lives so he came to me when he comes to
Starting point is 00:19:00 when he comes to I'm going to say, he starts a far, you're a fat, you come in a person to watch
Starting point is 00:19:07 and then you're going to be to get to a photo and I saying, I, I, I, he says, you go ahead,
Starting point is 00:19:14 you go ahead, you go ahead, and me, and I'm trying, even I'm trying that you know, if you don't have a lambrado,
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'd go back back back, no way, and just my person was, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:19:25 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then he's the team
Starting point is 00:19:28 there, yeah, they're leaving him and the I question RISA of a position because, for who
Starting point is 00:19:37 for who you know in Japan aggression is crime can't be it's not here in Brazil, but here in Japan,
Starting point is 00:19:43 the question to be a car to other but nobody put a the first the first of the way, it's right,
Starting point is 00:19:49 in the law, you can be a person, you know, he's not, he's not I questioned in
Starting point is 00:19:56 Rays, I said I'm going to talk to no attitude, I'm not no, I'm not sure, I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm agredited for for the state, like, surprised for what happened and you're going to take any attitude? Then she'll go and call the Sasarara,
Starting point is 00:20:09 which is a guy Abbas to Sakakibara San. Sakharah is the guy who is responsible for all of all right. The Sasharara come to me and say,
Starting point is 00:20:17 you don't want to take any attitude, then they say, you want to go to go to go to the other other place, or you prefer to
Starting point is 00:20:23 I'm going to go, I don't go back to try, I'm going to continue to and then I'm going to continue here.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And then I say, you know, once you don't want to take any attitude. And from my
Starting point is 00:20:31 other this confusion, the people of Belator, they're raching the big of my car,
Starting point is 00:20:37 they're doing being rizable. Like, they were doing this incredible. The Belator, this
Starting point is 00:20:41 vend, for Brazil, it's not that's not that's not that you don't know my peter,
Starting point is 00:20:48 he's, I'm, put, I question, you're not, you don't talk to, ah,
Starting point is 00:20:51 we're going to talk to a lot, then you're going to not, don't want to do anything,
Starting point is 00:20:56 this is normal? No, this is not, So, it's all, nobody will do. I go, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:21:02 go to the vestial of their, but in this moment I'm having an interval norahs. It's the famous
Starting point is 00:21:07 what is the interval that is the first of the first of the first of then I go to
Starting point is 00:21:14 get a satisfaction yes, I said that I came in a croco of light, that I
Starting point is 00:21:18 came to back, I'm they're saying they say they're going to I live
Starting point is 00:21:21 a guy, no, I'm I pass, I I pass I pass I pass by
Starting point is 00:21:25 the Ruizis, that is a cell that they're at a cell official, I pass, I go to at the vestial of their really, Patrick, is the post for me, so Patricio,
Starting point is 00:21:33 virado for me, the time I'm in the same, I said, hey, my, man, we'll resolve this parada, you know me, you know, me and the hour
Starting point is 00:21:40 that he came, I don't know, a tip in him, and he came to me, Patrick, no, I'm, sorry, Patrick,
Starting point is 00:21:47 Patrick, yeah, Patrice, he came to me, the, we, all right, we're, right, and we say, in a porrara,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I, I, really, I, Heperted, he puttough no, this then is all the car of his. He tried to defend it. A lot of there. We get a bigger generalized. Enter, the jury, enter a medic, enter the security,
Starting point is 00:22:07 entre, and everyone, he says, that I left in a guy, this is all the truth. I was, I, but two professors me who were with me. Two students and the my employer, we were in six. They were in seven. Inclusive, they were in the vestiary, together, us to saturate.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So when I go to the vestiary that's a guy, we say in a porrida all the whole the brig, the brigga,
Starting point is 00:22:29 generalized, I don't have to say, no, it's come to say, it's a person, and then the big, the
Starting point is 00:22:35 thing, it's a right, that's all right, I'm of all, all the, I'm a man, and I'm
Starting point is 00:22:41 not permit that that I'm in my car and me push into the house. He felt for respect
Starting point is 00:22:45 with me first, I I don't agree to him, when I said, if he if he had
Starting point is 00:22:50 been to if I'd have been the so I'm the aggression parted the part of him,
Starting point is 00:22:56 they're probably the propoena the propoena was he was he if someone was infelis in the
Starting point is 00:23:02 attitude, was he's first, and not me. So when they come, this confusion, we're gonna
Starting point is 00:23:07 and for me it's just it's a one to make, I'm gonna me, I'm I, I'm,
Starting point is 00:23:15 there, no, there was the person um... he was a man, he's a man, I'm not
Starting point is 00:23:18 a man, I'm gonna this sassarara an Arana me left from out, they'll go to and come out of
Starting point is 00:23:23 a corridor and come back to go to you know, you're a whole, you know, you can't do that you know,
Starting point is 00:23:29 and you're not he's ready, go back, Claire. Because we don't want you as you as a man, we're going to
Starting point is 00:23:36 we're not to be able because they are an athlete d'uylatorn. You're an athlete of a house,
Starting point is 00:23:41 you're an athlete of how I'm going to try the the guy who can't how I'm
Starting point is 00:23:46 going to be on the he, no, don't know we'll continue the no,
Starting point is 00:23:49 go, So he says, go and more, because this can affect other people that's not to be the confusion
Starting point is 00:23:56 like other staff, people who are people who are going to continue to do the event, we can't
Starting point is 00:24:03 do you know, because the big of your of your because of your team, they they'll have to
Starting point is 00:24:10 the event, for favor, go back, pardon to bring, you're a person, you're a
Starting point is 00:24:15 person, and we're not with the booting. And there all this conversation I I'm going to go to my house
Starting point is 00:24:23 and then where they were in the same hotel, really we're in the same hotel but every time I'm going to I go, I don't think
Starting point is 00:24:31 more in a hotel. I have a second but I never I'm going to I'm retino, I always go back to my house, so I
Starting point is 00:24:37 came to my house, for Bord, Endurais even I said for my big, I'm a bigger, I'm going to be a man,
Starting point is 00:24:45 and we're not, but then then they were going to with you, get in contact with a lot of, and then they
Starting point is 00:24:52 started to do a show to do you, then they're in a show-z-a- so-your-s if someone was infuri-n't-a-shrase,
Starting point is 00:24:58 the other thing, I'm a man, I don't bring, I don't bring to put it in the social, no,
Starting point is 00:25:03 who went to get to put my social, and to- say, it, and all that, and all this all this
Starting point is 00:25:10 is all- to you, this trot, this thing, is resolved, if you want to if you're
Starting point is 00:25:17 going to them tomorrow, in the next event, will be tranquil, or you think that will be able to be able to be back to be
Starting point is 00:25:25 the last of them. For my the bigga, to be a one to the end, they're, they're going to say,
Starting point is 00:25:30 they're going to be, I'm going to be, okay, if tomorrow if I want to try a idea, we're going to
Starting point is 00:25:36 be a subject to a man, we're not to sit and talk, how we're we could have made
Starting point is 00:25:40 to be back back, you know, he could be coming to me, as they're people,
Starting point is 00:25:46 they're more more friends, at least the Satoshi of Marquis, not so not they're very
Starting point is 00:25:51 very good have taken to say, poe, bring the Kleber here, we're going to talk about
Starting point is 00:25:56 him, he was going to get to say, oh, I don't get to talk a idea, we had to talk a professor,
Starting point is 00:26:02 it was a man, was a man, it was a man, it was a daughter of this man,
Starting point is 00:26:07 this mose, this is a mose, this is a mose, this is he mose, this is, this has to use the
Starting point is 00:26:11 term, boste, because all he had even to me, we don't we need we'd never have entered in this situation
Starting point is 00:26:18 but if we want to talk we're going to talk about we're going to talk about we're always we're all
Starting point is 00:26:25 always we're all right I think of this story as I didn't know that they didn't know I'd say
Starting point is 00:26:30 oh my my doctor was very I said I found he in hotel I encountered in a
Starting point is 00:26:35 reunion of the we could have been have been been in the but for me
Starting point is 00:26:40 it would have a problem no problem no and for me no problem no problem no, I'm there's
Starting point is 00:26:45 no I'm in I said I don't want to me pronounce because the
Starting point is 00:26:50 big a big was and it was it was there on a other channel
Starting point is 00:26:56 in a podcast I I repent no I did my my paper
Starting point is 00:27:02 of my my man and I here is my my house I don't
Starting point is 00:27:06 don't I don't know my car. But if you're a lot of people, we're going to get a lot of sport, we can't be able to be able to be able to be able to be this attitude.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And as I said, I'll say, I'll repeat. The only people that have to be a who's a kidd, because I live in Japan, I have a academia, I have patricinators, so
Starting point is 00:27:27 they're going to go back to Brazil, they're in the United, Brazil, Brazil vend, the States America, this is not very visible, that's right? And so, the aggression,
Starting point is 00:27:38 the brigger that's a positive. Like I, this week I'm having a problem, have to
Starting point is 00:27:43 give a patronessnaur have to give to give to excuse to the public Japanese. So,
Starting point is 00:27:49 this for me is difficult because now, because who can get the consequences
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm they're going to they're going to depend on, they don't depend of Japan, they don't depend
Starting point is 00:28:00 to the Japanese. So you all this that's all right so you're so, so,
Starting point is 00:28:04 so, it's When I repent, no, you're a good, I'm a formate of opinion, we're a athlete, and we have to
Starting point is 00:28:12 give an example. And this is an example that I want to be the people who are thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For the time, to tell you know, my time. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:24 With all respect, I think I I can't talk, I gave an interview to you, I'll interview
Starting point is 00:28:29 to Polons. There's various emissora, various people there, platforms, querion me access
Starting point is 00:28:33 because this They want to They want to And I don't I don't know because until
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm going to know when I was working when I'm going to not a person people who
Starting point is 00:28:42 people who I'm who did it before before you before after this
Starting point is 00:28:47 before you have Patrice you know I'm you know I'm opening the opportunity
Starting point is 00:28:52 to me to tell a little to talk a little bit so thank for this because I
Starting point is 00:28:58 did interview for you and for PVT and don't pretend to
Starting point is 00:29:01 give more interview to me not question and it is that So if I de-satisfaction to
Starting point is 00:29:06 is a people of Japanese, like I say, it's the organization, and, especially to the most four-nulators. Because who's been the person who's, it's right? Like I said, it happened, the brigia there for me
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Starting point is 00:31:02 There is, Now we have Marks Boucher, the legend of Jiu Jiu Jiu Jiu, that in this Saturday a jauna to the O'Hle of the championship to finally confronta a hug, a lot that's being attempted, just as well, since you didn't have never been steered in M.A.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It was to be a first lute. And, for, novel, it was canceled a various years. How are you expected to be it to finally to confront him? So I just will think I just want to believe, when he's there there in my front,
Starting point is 00:31:31 because until so much a lot thing can happen but in real,
Starting point is 00:31:37 finally, let's see if happens, but I think for many times
Starting point is 00:31:43 the lot of been canceled, I just this really
Starting point is 00:31:47 really very so I learned much with with these things
Starting point is 00:31:54 that happened not in the time so it's a
Starting point is 00:31:58 case that if a day before the the fight, I don't go to be frustrated, I don't go
Starting point is 00:32:04 be putt or because I know that's something that's going to happen too because it's but, but with
Starting point is 00:32:13 certainly I'd like that would be a lot of positive of these cancelations because you, in various
Starting point is 00:32:22 situations had to have to adapt to other the stures of luda, you in front him
Starting point is 00:32:27 he, he, he ended or on the data or passing to another adversary in the same data and you had to move a little adaptation for your game for the guy that you would have to be this form
Starting point is 00:32:37 that you helped to grow to the world also? With the answer, as you said, but in the final of the contals there I'm more preoccupied, even more in this beginning of the career, I'm preoccupied with my game, what I'm going to do, than the the game of my adversary. So,
Starting point is 00:32:53 I don't have this experience to to be analyzing, things for thing. So, I'm there trying to do my game, and it's the objective
Starting point is 00:33:02 has been this. But with it's a good, especially the demand, because me did more
Starting point is 00:33:09 time to train more time to better, my part in the part in wrestling, in the
Starting point is 00:33:15 proper Jiu-Gitzo, so it was quite positive these atrasos. I can't
Starting point is 00:33:23 say the first time that you went to to be frontar in 2021. He was 2-0 in MMA, you would do you have a your straight.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Then they tried to mark to new, he, to move in 22, when he was coming to the derrota, the only derrata the only derrida of
Starting point is 00:33:39 his career and now he's coming of two victories, so, moments distinct that you would be there,
Starting point is 00:33:46 you know, what you did you move as a lot to now to now, now you're
Starting point is 00:33:51 still in MMA, an, it was all, it was all, it was all, how you
Starting point is 00:33:55 would be, how you'll Maybe he peg the the worst adversary possible, if he was trying to avoid you, it was the worst thing possible because now you get with much more experience for the luther.
Starting point is 00:34:06 What he moved from there to come? Yeah, I think, as well you said, I'm going to be more a lot to be, to be to be, to be to see him, see the things positive of his things negative
Starting point is 00:34:25 of his, things negative of him. So, is something was good. So, apesad of having, as you said,
Starting point is 00:34:32 had been adiated, but still is very similar, because he has six luts, five victories,
Starting point is 00:34:39 one derrots, and now I have four victories, so, since that after now, we're very
Starting point is 00:34:45 is very very similar in the career. So I think, I think, I think, not such,
Starting point is 00:34:50 there's, I think, not any, and disadvantage for any one of the two. So I think the two sides have been the two sides,
Starting point is 00:34:58 or the two, so it's going to be a way, and finally this fight would be going to be there's always the sign in the final,
Starting point is 00:35:06 not just I just believe when I'm trying. Exactly. That's always is prepared for the poor, so,
Starting point is 00:35:13 so I've been this career at MMA is something that I'm got to in my case because it happens
Starting point is 00:35:20 much, different in a game grappling, these things, not happened it's a difference also in
Starting point is 00:35:27 the championship for example, you go to the campanato you're in you're going to never did a camp for a
Starting point is 00:35:34 world for a world of Jiu-Jitsu focused on a person. Obviously, you'd focus on some people, you'd go to
Starting point is 00:35:40 the campanato knowing that it was very probable that was going to go to run the rodolf
Starting point is 00:35:43 in the final, but the guy that was in the first was something was just
Starting point is 00:35:47 just just I think, perhaps this experience to embarked to the un-gamous to be a lot of the un-me-a, too, you helped for these
Starting point is 00:35:56 surprises in the MMA too. Ah, with certain. But it's it, you know, is prepared to, I've prepared to
Starting point is 00:36:04 be prepared to do with various, so, are today, me preparing to do a person with a person, with a
Starting point is 00:36:09 certain, a bit more, and it's final of the, the final of all, it's 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:36:15 of the time, no, the prior of the the best of the hypothesis will be less
Starting point is 00:36:20 so I think the worst is the problem is the thing is the whole what is the other than
Starting point is 00:36:27 the other the other it's the time that we know the we've trained so that a maradown
Starting point is 00:36:35 going there and I'm glad going there to be back in the jala but this this time it's in the
Starting point is 00:36:41 this time when this last time the time not it's been very mannina
Starting point is 00:36:46 You have to do a train different in the academy to adapt to maybe
Starting point is 00:36:53 the movementation of the kind of because I think the guy was the jiu-jitsu in the time of
Starting point is 00:36:58 Prais and said he said that the ring was the for who is the jiu-s
Starting point is 00:37:02 that not that not does the defense of keda yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:37:09 I've been when they said when they were in the I've talked about with
Starting point is 00:37:13 Minotauro and the Minotaro said exactly that he liked much more to look more
Starting point is 00:37:18 to look in ring with cord than in grader. So, I did a lot of
Starting point is 00:37:22 training, we have a lot of time in America Top Team, we're playing we're
Starting point is 00:37:26 quite in the quadado on the instead of the circle, the grid. So I adapted a
Starting point is 00:37:34 very, and it was good, with some strategies different, the time different,
Starting point is 00:37:42 the passada, all the I think the Katel, who, is being my head coach here that's me helping me, he's really
Starting point is 00:37:53 he presta much attention to know, and he has the background of the Mai Tai, that came
Starting point is 00:37:58 of Maitai, so, the syring, of how and how can't, so it's being very important,
Starting point is 00:38:05 yeah, that after that I got a lot where I want a lot, where I'm, my speciality,
Starting point is 00:38:11 yeah, but until there, there's a thing, there can't I think that's very important.
Starting point is 00:38:17 The camiada, or cut out, or to understand the difference of the ring and with Kade. And you said said,
Starting point is 00:38:27 that 15 minutes, that you're prepared for 15 minutes, that's the worst scenario possible, that you're going to have to be to a decision,
Starting point is 00:38:36 but for in a while, you don't pass on the first round, if you summed all these last your lutts and not
Starting point is 00:38:40 get to not two rounds complete. It's So, as soon that you see in this look at this future,
Starting point is 00:38:45 you think comes more a finalization? So, then a knockout like the finalite? It would be
Starting point is 00:38:52 not. I always hope that you never, I always hope to get to come to a lotto, with a
Starting point is 00:39:00 minute in with him, I will be if you're to do you have to do do you, if you're
Starting point is 00:39:06 to push him I'm going to do you but the objective is always finalize in the first round,
Starting point is 00:39:11 not to end, first round. So this is the objective, with certain. And I'm sure that he will come to the same thing to
Starting point is 00:39:21 make a lot to go to long, try to get a hand of his hand a goal and to end up the time before. So I'm
Starting point is 00:39:29 sure that the strategy our is very very similar. Nobody can let the fight to get to
Starting point is 00:39:34 get to the category of pespeas. And just to finish this is very important in the
Starting point is 00:39:40 a corridor on the film in a long time in a novel of Citadel interi, no citadel official, the Malign, gave Edward Jambuller, unified the
Starting point is 00:39:50 unified the victory, you put that you put a stuntar on against him? I'll be sincere, it's something
Starting point is 00:39:59 that I don't have this pressure, I think when it's to happen, it will happen naturally
Starting point is 00:40:03 but I don't, I don't think, oh, after this lute, I don't I don't even
Starting point is 00:40:09 to think much after I like to think much in each the fight, how it's
Starting point is 00:40:14 the world, and I'm that's in the same to do you know, with a year,
Starting point is 00:40:20 that's that's that's that's that's those those trots of
Starting point is 00:40:26 farpas there, into the ring, again. So I think the next
Starting point is 00:40:31 dispute of Cinturon is these two there I think might be a lot much
Starting point is 00:40:34 good, and I'm going to experience, I'm evolving and I know my hour will get, so I'm getting
Starting point is 00:40:41 the war, terminating the I think it's inevitable not that's not no, I'm not I'm in this, I'm in the category have more experience
Starting point is 00:40:50 than I, but I'm conquisting my space, I'm getting more experienced and at every day a better day I feel this
Starting point is 00:40:59 a car sparring that I do so I'm sure that this demora, the same time the same time that was to
Starting point is 00:41:03 make the start being to say for this big of the cinturon, but just is being positive, because I'm evolving more than every day that pass. I imagine that, even more
Starting point is 00:41:15 after that's promotion that they did do you do with me, it could be provoked, and all right, could be indicted that one in segued his way. But as well, he just ran were in less than three minutes, I thought, if Boucher should have to finish the Hill Hube, nocautiae, it could be pull it there and pass a front
Starting point is 00:41:32 by the cintone. Yeah, so, then, no, no conversation or not. I mean, I'm even I'm a guy that I don't talk about, before, you know, of the I think, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:41:44 many people who like to say, I'm going to do, go to be, going to be, going to happen, and get to be there, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So, it's all right. So, I'm a person who, I'm going to talk to me about this, and say, I'm going to look first,
Starting point is 00:41:57 now, have a first, this, this lot, and then we're going to be, so they're so they're
Starting point is 00:42:01 so, and, so, is the focus, I don't like to think to be thinking much what can't be able to
Starting point is 00:42:09 think about to be the first week, yeah, day four of August, and we're going we're going to
Starting point is 00:42:19 go, we're a fifth victory, and more a lot of a cartel, more one victory,
Starting point is 00:42:24 if God, want to the other side of line, we're just champion of the One Championship
Starting point is 00:42:34 that, that's week, will be J'O'A this time, not will be made on podcast, how is being the podcast, how is being the last
Starting point is 00:42:43 days of, no, more preparation, now. Now it's just a concentration and focus to say in the hand, once a way. I'm super well. I did a preparation very good, very productive for this lot now, the
Starting point is 00:42:57 Saturday, so I'm very well trained, very well focused, physically, physically, and it's just to get the day and see presentar. Mania, car, for you, you're not. You're You're in a moment of recuperation, yeah, there was a cinturon,
Starting point is 00:43:14 then it had to be that lot with a gulp there a little dolorous, yeah, and there was a pankadier, one of the best bloters, there was a lot of, the year, that,
Starting point is 00:43:25 he finally, he ended up to the other than you, it was going to later, but how is the expectation of this, for this confront, you think, is that a,
Starting point is 00:43:35 that's, that's, that's, that's, that you can, you can't guarantee of
Starting point is 00:43:39 a chast a stuturon or do a trilogy with Fabriz? What do you have a
Starting point is 00:43:44 expectation with a question? What do the victory you does in this year?
Starting point is 00:43:49 My my thoughts are these are this, is to expect to I do
Starting point is 00:43:55 a good a lot against the King and Wang and that me
Starting point is 00:44:00 put up in the point now to do this is my focus my objective
Starting point is 00:44:06 of of new, of to get the title now. I think I
Starting point is 00:44:13 think I think this this is a week of this day will be going to do this
Starting point is 00:44:21 the title. The people who do Brazil, you know, the style of the style of
Starting point is 00:44:27 a porrada, I go to try, I like to do you do this but I'm what we
Starting point is 00:44:33 can't expect to to your adversary? What do you think that he will
Starting point is 00:44:35 try to do So I've watched some videos he's he's a striker
Starting point is 00:44:42 also he's a box more in the longa yeah fined
Starting point is 00:44:48 to use to use the chute in the line of I think he will
Starting point is 00:44:53 maintain the distance he will use the box in long
Starting point is 00:44:56 there and will be in try I think he
Starting point is 00:45:01 not want he not put by by the
Starting point is 00:45:07 I'm focused on this, that he came to the trojan and that I can use my game of box, use my punch, it's what I'm in there. It's what I'm expected. The last few rounds were
Starting point is 00:45:18 programmed for five rounds, not yet were not programmed to do. But it's programmed to do. Now it's going to be to three rounds. This is beneficial for you?
Starting point is 00:45:28 You think you give more the possibility to, porh, I'll start 200% in the first round, the second round, because they're no maximum 15 minutes,
Starting point is 00:45:37 not will get to 25? You think she'll benefit your side more aggressive, or you think it's that it's not about? With it, with me help me help
Starting point is 00:45:46 for sure three rounds, but independent of three or five, I like to look to my way, aggressive,
Starting point is 00:45:54 I'm in to get to get to the even, so it's going to make the difference, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:46:01 when I go to see, when I go to fight to front and it's not be different. I conversed with
Starting point is 00:46:07 with the Boucher that's the he said that's going to be in ring and he's not be in ring. It's so, it's in ring.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It's a better for you? You prefer that is in ring? How is you compare, the two styles?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, in the reality, I've I've got a lot of Fabriz, for being the ring
Starting point is 00:46:26 here in the city that we we have we have been a little ring,
Starting point is 00:46:33 so I trained very little in ring and I've I've been a lot during the
Starting point is 00:46:38 but now I'm looking more in the center of the Kijen to not need to not need to
Starting point is 00:46:46 not not count with the grader that not not so that would be better better
Starting point is 00:46:52 but now I could make a camp very legal to to look justly
Starting point is 00:46:58 in the ring what was what was the time the lot of the the
Starting point is 00:47:02 fact of the fact of the fact of I've done a strategy to put it to put it to put it to
Starting point is 00:47:10 back back, to put it to back, so it was very more difficult to control him in the part
Starting point is 00:47:17 the grade that it didn't have to give a strategy by the ring it might be more
Starting point is 00:47:24 to try a porad with a car or or there's a other side of that you have to
Starting point is 00:47:29 adapt to a bit for the ring not graded for this for this for this
Starting point is 00:47:35 I'm, I'm trying focused for the proxation by the fact of his being a guy that not chuta
Starting point is 00:47:41 much, not much, yeah, but not much, like the about the he's,
Starting point is 00:47:46 he'll use a lot of the right, so, so, so, for being a guy
Starting point is 00:47:53 that will be more to try to try to the man, so I trained a specific
Starting point is 00:47:58 the part in-pe the part in- the scenario ideal is to gain this
Starting point is 00:48:02 Luta, have more chance to the centauron, but infightal Fabrice in a jala and not in the ring. Yeah, the focus is this. I said, I said, I said, I'm saying, MESS, I want to look to Fabrician, I want to get this centurion, until I'll confront him, and I'm going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:19 I need to fight with him. And for a while, the Annan still not announced a a lot to him, right? He, since the last one of the three years, he's is he's been with a lesion, how it was, because that was really, because that was really we just left
Starting point is 00:48:31 marks for you two don't know if for him needs to more time of the but you
Starting point is 00:48:39 think this might be a signal of that maybe is still still waiting the
Starting point is 00:48:42 the next past his next him? I'm too very far
Starting point is 00:48:48 of what what really actually is happening not if he
Starting point is 00:48:52 is he's he's getting the my lot because
Starting point is 00:48:58 in who can If he would have between him and he would be confront him would be
Starting point is 00:49:05 quite a kind of and then he was always not serve to say not even so I don't
Starting point is 00:49:12 see how the situation so it's so it's so it's all right it's all right and make
Starting point is 00:49:18 the real your barulno yeah with my work there
Starting point is 00:49:22 try to try the better the better impressioner the organization for
Starting point is 00:49:30 me give the opportunity to to fight by the title now. On the other side we have in Gabriel Braga, who is in buska in a million of dollars
Starting point is 00:49:43 in the PFL, in front a cruise wage in this week. An adversary moved on the hour there, you know, got a man
Starting point is 00:49:50 a very hard and substituting the Rai Bulaev. How is it being to be an expectative for this for this
Starting point is 00:49:56 challenge? Muda much more. How is the case for this important in your career? Yeah, for me, I
Starting point is 00:50:06 believe that it's I'm going to move a lot I entered in the PFR just knowing who I could be able to I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:50:18 trynating to confront all right I know that I know I'm in front all who are in the GPE so,
Starting point is 00:50:24 you can't have to be certain that this I I've I just absorbed it
Starting point is 00:50:31 very well, I'm very well trained and I'm ready to go there and work and say with my victory. This lance of the BFL is like if it was a tournament of Jiu-Jitsu that you have there, 16-dutators, that you can be married with any one or
Starting point is 00:50:47 at any of any other. There are 10 athletes in in each division, you know? Then, po, these 10 athletes there can't be, you can't be, not just one
Starting point is 00:50:56 once, but more days, you know? I and the Chris will be the first first time now. And I'm very well
Starting point is 00:51:05 I'm very very confident to go to go to go to go to do you to do do you. It's a lot
Starting point is 00:51:12 in terms of style of the game. Many of the time you have adapted because the Riveboh
Starting point is 00:51:15 is that he's a invicto in M.A. A guy a very very good
Starting point is 00:51:21 got he people of the name in the organization and the no Prius
Starting point is 00:51:24 is a guy who has been Rabeb but he also got a
Starting point is 00:51:29 many people Bo, is a champion of the PFL? What is you have to move in terms of style of the new game to adapt to this new adversary? What doesaf-
Starting point is 00:51:38 different he brought to you? Yeah, I was even, I was talking much, that was a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:51:46 a lot of a lot, that would be with Bussar and I was very well prepared, mentally,
Starting point is 00:51:55 focused on the strategy that I had to do with him, that is like you said, really he
Starting point is 00:52:00 has a game more a lot of I'm trying I'm trying really, he's trying really,
Starting point is 00:52:07 he's a wrestling but he he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:52:12 he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:52:16 don't so agarado, and I, I, I think, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:52:23 he, he, he, the whole of the russ. For that when the two lot were, it was the
Starting point is 00:52:30 did the russo so I, I thought that the little more for me, I don't subestimed any
Starting point is 00:52:39 an athlete, I think they don't all training very, but I go sub-law and show more one
Starting point is 00:52:45 one way that's my moment. The Cruz He did he's got the FECD he's fared
Starting point is 00:52:49 a guy very good because I'm even Marachiev that is the champion of the Leves
Starting point is 00:52:53 today has He's not going to the PFL two two days. It's a guy a guy is a guy has more
Starting point is 00:53:01 than 30 and the number the roades that he suffered were all for decision. So the guys,
Starting point is 00:53:08 these guys, these pedres that he asked, never nobody was able to finalize
Starting point is 00:53:12 or knockoutia him. When you look at these, the letters of he,
Starting point is 00:53:17 know, what you are capable? You think you will be this first guy to
Starting point is 00:53:20 to do this costin to him. Yeah, it's what I I say. He's not I'm not going to but I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:53:27 I, you know? So, I'm, I'm very well prepared, mentally, physically,
Starting point is 00:53:34 with a strategy in-gia, and if he is, he's, he'll, I'll, I'll,
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'll set him, if he will be set up, he will sitar. So, man, he really,
Starting point is 00:53:48 he really is a man, a man, a man, he's, I enter there, knowing that I have
Starting point is 00:53:54 15 minutes to me to dovertie, to do you do the time so, I'm doing, the knockout
Starting point is 00:54:02 or the finalization is a consequence, you know? So, I, I, I hope, I'm,
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'm sure that I can't be knockoutia him, imagine, be the first, and I
Starting point is 00:54:15 go to the final, so, I'm going, so I will gain, depending of how
Starting point is 00:54:21 I will I go out from the job the fact it's a my semifinal is that
Starting point is 00:54:26 in the money this million of dollars when you know when it's a real,
Starting point is 00:54:32 it's a money, because it's different of all the other things that did
Starting point is 00:54:35 make a career, it's a lot of a lot of a million
Starting point is 00:54:38 you can't you do you can't bring a that you can't
Starting point is 00:54:43 it's to put to that it's a one because
Starting point is 00:54:46 some three rounds like or any other other other so I think of this form. It's a lot. It's a lot. All the lute is a lot of lot, logical. But it's more a lot. I'm, all those were
Starting point is 00:55:14 very important I'm prepared very much and, poe, no it's a to that I'm invicto
Starting point is 00:55:19 because I love this very serious man, independent of the level of my adversary,
Starting point is 00:55:26 you know? So he will be just more one that I go there and I will show
Starting point is 00:55:31 that I am the my first, that I'm in my time, I'm in the best
Starting point is 00:55:38 this centuron there, this premium that really will move my life. For sure.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And for you, you're a guy that, although to have a career in 2018, there's a
Starting point is 00:55:49 19th of two years, you're in a second, you're a person who's a man who has been in
Starting point is 00:55:54 your father, you know, the doctor, VETina, Nass, the trainer until today, has part of
Starting point is 00:56:00 the major teams, with the the best of the people, who's, how it's, how it's
Starting point is 00:56:04 how it's how it to form who you are not so in the aspect the technical,
Starting point is 00:56:11 you, but from my the of my my head, of you grow
Starting point is 00:56:14 to be the world. Yeah, car, I evolved with things that I passed in the
Starting point is 00:56:20 life, and I evolved very with my father, my my life, my
Starting point is 00:56:25 my own my aspiration, you know, in the life, like a man and
Starting point is 00:56:30 as a man, and so many things that he erro, he wrote, he,
Starting point is 00:56:35 he can be, and not let me I'm if I want, I'm,
Starting point is 00:56:40 I don't, I have a mind very good, I have a mind focused,
Starting point is 00:56:44 I know what I want to me, and I see where I want to get to
Starting point is 00:56:49 get to I'm in I'm doing every day here, so, man, it will
Starting point is 00:56:56 be difficult me to be better, I'm the better. What was the
Starting point is 00:57:02 most the most the you did that you did, that you learned,
Starting point is 00:57:05 with him, with the career of him? Ah, car, all, I,
Starting point is 00:57:09 I always I think my father as inspiration, as I said now, as an
Starting point is 00:57:14 athlete and as a person. So, the things that I saw that he had
Starting point is 00:57:19 certain, I'd archivable to me, and some things that he'd I'd
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'd get it and I'm so, so, it was doing that who I
Starting point is 00:57:31 know, who I'm who the Gabriel that I am, so, so,
Starting point is 00:57:35 so, I think the things are doing certain because I
Starting point is 00:57:39 I try to see there always the way the right, the things that have to do correctly, and without many errors, yeah, but we're trying to try to error the minimum. The other side of the
Starting point is 00:57:54 Chavez of the tournament, there's the Jesus Pined, a guy that CETA has already he's got him in the decedion of Divisida.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He confronts a Bubba Jenkins, who is a guy with a veteran also, he just for the major events and who who you
Starting point is 00:58:11 think you pass this this this is a lot to be to be in to be in
Starting point is 00:58:14 final car I'm I'm not I'm so I'm also about this
Starting point is 00:58:18 but he he he thinks the Bubbadj he passes Cara Bajie Pacek
Starting point is 00:58:26 he really really he really has more maturity he's more malandro he is
Starting point is 00:58:31 more intelligent he knows he knows he doesn't subestim the Peneed the Peneer
Starting point is 00:58:38 surprised all us now with this knockout in the same of the ex-campion and, he is a guy a lot
Starting point is 00:58:47 he's a minute he in less of 24 hour, even did much time to do a do a
Starting point is 00:58:53 start a study and I'll be sincere that I never I never trained with a
Starting point is 00:58:59 person with a person for me was more surprise but to you see the
Starting point is 00:59:05 our level we're we're trying really So, so, back the
Starting point is 00:59:10 question that you said, in my opinion, I think the Buba Jake also
Starting point is 00:59:15 he's a badjic he is more intelligent he, he appears that's in a phase
Starting point is 00:59:22 good too and, and it will be a great final, I and he and he
Starting point is 00:59:35 is a jesska to start that's about Tatiana Suarez in U.S. in a moment important
Starting point is 00:59:39 for you know Jessica of recuperation in the organization, but many of those things for there,
Starting point is 00:59:46 imagine, the expectation of for a lot of an athlete with a hype in-sima, with a Tatian Suarez, Invit,
Starting point is 00:59:52 how is the great challenge, this great lot? I'm very very happy, it was to be doing
Starting point is 00:59:58 this a little bit, the Vrna- was just getting to do do you
Starting point is 01:00:03 have to try and then I'm still so I'm so I'm very happy, yeah, Tatiana
Starting point is 01:00:08 is an adversary very very very very my own
Starting point is 01:00:12 my own my own people are that I'm would be I'm going to I'm preparing to her
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm a style of a defense of a good time the first the part of the
Starting point is 01:00:26 so I'm so I'm very excited very anxious ready for this lot and
Starting point is 01:00:31 waiting to get the better and then back the victory
Starting point is 01:00:34 back the last you did a a little Lutta a lot of
Starting point is 01:00:39 Mandehams, you know, finalized, it's a rapid of round, and now you're to go to
Starting point is 01:00:43 this year, we're in August, it's in the beginning of of August, quarter the first of
Starting point is 01:00:48 the time. The first to the first to the first of two months, and then three months
Starting point is 01:00:52 for a time. How it was, the time, the time to get a time more to try a
Starting point is 01:00:59 time to make a more, to end of the sequence of the rest of those? I think
Starting point is 01:01:06 that we, as a agent, we have to be ready to be ready for everything, we need to be able to get to be ready
Starting point is 01:01:12 and then you're there's a opportunity, but I'm what I said to call to the I never did choose
Starting point is 01:01:18 the adversary, I never to choose time, and three months is sufficient to do a camp very good to be very
Starting point is 01:01:25 prepared to do you know, and I have in the team, a structure much good with menians
Starting point is 01:01:32 of all the types of modalities, styles, So I always I'll be to be ready for what
Starting point is 01:01:38 to appear to me and the and the Tatiana is a really very strong
Starting point is 01:01:42 so I'm using the men here that are very the men's a Japa
Starting point is 01:01:47 is a very strong, the the menions the Brun the Mayron came
Starting point is 01:01:52 now also so it's also the part of preparation
Starting point is 01:01:57 physical that yeah I know I'm know a year I'm
Starting point is 01:01:59 I'm more more than more than more than all my body,
Starting point is 01:02:04 all the my lesions, everything I did, and I did do a lot for a because of my
Starting point is 01:02:10 energy of the year I'm this year, I'm going to do it to do it and it's done certain.
Starting point is 01:02:16 It's also also the fact of a lot of a Tatiana Suarez, if it was if
Starting point is 01:02:20 was a whatever a other any other any you're just even a
Starting point is 01:02:25 two times, but she was the Tatiana pesed more to accept the opportunity? Ah, I think
Starting point is 01:02:31 that been being me would be very close in a dispute of a centuron,
Starting point is 01:02:36 now Amanda Lambs will be to look against the Wally
Starting point is 01:02:39 so probably who who will to or a Welie continue with the
Starting point is 01:02:44 I can't give a rematch or if the Lemus also also I can't
Starting point is 01:02:48 I can give a revent for Wel immediate but so it is a
Starting point is 01:02:55 great pass to be to be so I am very focused for this
Starting point is 01:03:00 Luta to be to win to And with certain, she's being a great name
Starting point is 01:03:06 in the organization, this is a very big very different when the master said, look, it's a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:10 what you know, what you're doing, I'm going to be a lot and say, and I'm going to be doing the best do my
Starting point is 01:03:18 better than I'm more prepared, a man, more tranquillard, the mind, very more tranquill also, making a camp
Starting point is 01:03:25 with the menas that are in my team that I know, so, so, it's all,
Starting point is 01:03:32 so, Corrending So, like it was in the Lourri Murphy, is this
Starting point is 01:03:38 camp here. This was the error in the last Lutta to have been trained out of
Starting point is 01:03:43 the house like from the Faran So, I did a camp in San
Starting point is 01:03:49 Paul, voted just to the part of the Maitai and I was in
Starting point is 01:03:55 I was I was I'm not really I did even what I did
Starting point is 01:03:57 and I didn't the camp so the so the master
Starting point is 01:04:01 sent with oh my we'll make a cape in our house,
Starting point is 01:04:06 with a our team, with the menace that you know, that you know, we'll come to show,
Starting point is 01:04:13 the Bruno, will be just with you, we'll do all right, and it's all all right. And really,
Starting point is 01:04:18 it's being different. I'm going to train with more more am, with more more
Starting point is 01:04:22 more energy. It's, not a train no a certain, which is the same every
Starting point is 01:04:27 all the days. So, I'm, I'm seeing a difference very great. I'm feeling when I when I lutee
Starting point is 01:04:33 with a Laura Murphy in the real, the same trinity, the same sentiment, the same energy, I'm the same
Starting point is 01:04:39 way, so I'm feeling good for this lot, and it a lot of 52 kills, which is the category that
Starting point is 01:04:45 I want to go back to be a champion, so I'm being very prepared, very well.
Starting point is 01:04:51 The performance against Rianzhanan really not was a good performance, you, it came
Starting point is 01:04:55 pernending in the first round. It was even sincererong on the railroads I remember that he posted that the other was a messer
Starting point is 01:05:02 that you're not that was he was not over who no obeisor what was to be made by it's like in Narnia how it
Starting point is 01:05:09 was like it was to say it was a lot really wrong it was a meh I'm erie everything
Starting point is 01:05:15 I need and I need I need I need I think I think all the athlete
Starting point is 01:05:21 of MMA he's subject to enter there's a lot even the more experienced
Starting point is 01:05:26 and this can happen And really, I don't I don't have me feeling well. I trained very very well in the vestiaire.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I did it and when I entered into the Luda, it was like a Jessica that was in the vestiary
Starting point is 01:05:38 and not went to the octagon. So, I don't say, I don't see, I don't see, I thought that the the luta
Starting point is 01:05:44 would be more easy than I imagineable and then the first shoot, the first the first soco that I
Starting point is 01:05:49 took that, moved all my head, moved all my strategy, and then I tried what I
Starting point is 01:05:55 had learned during the camp, not I couldn't and when the master said,
Starting point is 01:05:59 look to let's put a back back that's a way, I'm going to try to get to
Starting point is 01:06:03 just in the way I'm going to take the goal of the encounter not the first time
Starting point is 01:06:09 that this happens I think with the my lute with the Elizang
Starting point is 01:06:14 also I was so I I I could end up rapid and
Starting point is 01:06:17 I came me just being by by the emotion and
Starting point is 01:06:22 not by the cause being being being I think it's part, now is
Starting point is 01:06:28 to go the victories, go back, I'm trying now, I'm very well, I'm training very well,
Starting point is 01:06:36 I'm feeling very very well, I'm feeling so I'm going to be a lot, so this is a thing that
Starting point is 01:06:41 I'm a little bit more think in a little bit of my God, I have to do the pay the weight
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'm going to buy to go to 52 no, I'm too very tranquilla the I'm just
Starting point is 01:06:52 I'm with 59 kilos so so now I'm 56, between 56 and 57. So a piece
Starting point is 01:06:59 very good. I'm going to get there my summer of a lot of a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 01:07:07 a lot of going to be going to be good. The style of a show is a different
Starting point is 01:07:14 compared to those last with the last with my show that you
Starting point is 01:07:17 do you put to back back back by the pressure and you think it's a
Starting point is 01:07:22 good for you want to do you want to do you I'm very good in the entrance of
Starting point is 01:07:27 Kedda also I know what is the type of pressure that she's like it for me a lot of
Starting point is 01:07:36 because I defend well I defend the kind of so I just have more care of the kettos of the stature that the wrestling
Starting point is 01:07:43 got very but I'm I'm training this here with the Japa with a Vittoria the Bruno
Starting point is 01:07:49 also is emphasize this part and I'm also the part of the part of to defend and
Starting point is 01:07:55 try to and try to, I think that's the lot, and generally when I look with men who
Starting point is 01:08:00 are really good, I always I'm very so I think this question to think, oh,
Starting point is 01:08:08 it's more difficult than I would imagine, it's not that I get to that I'm
Starting point is 01:08:14 so, it's a very easy, it's going to be going to be able to be able to
Starting point is 01:08:17 be able to be not certain but when I'm just when I'm just the questionate that
Starting point is 01:08:22 the lot will be difficult I think I I can't I can use all the hands
Starting point is 01:08:28 all the main arms everything I trained during my camp and you have stories champion and this helps in the hour
Starting point is 01:08:34 to make the merchandise to try a chance for the centuron she's in Vic she has very hype she was afastened
Starting point is 01:08:43 during much time for lesion but was a tropeel the adversary in the time and you
Starting point is 01:08:48 have a one thing of your favor that if Amanda Lehm to be a champion, you took her to nothing when you
Starting point is 01:08:55 were she's in front of, but you think she'll be able to be a champion in a few weeks? Look, I'm going to tell you, Amanda Lemos is very dura, very dula,
Starting point is 01:09:05 there's a trodraption very dula, and if the Waley not take care not to look to the back, or not to work a bit of
Starting point is 01:09:12 Jiu-Gitzo, I believe that the Lemos be torn a new champion in the category, even because of the force that
Starting point is 01:09:20 she has, she is very very strong, I don't have with the two, I've taken a poohada at the two. And I'll say, Alemus bathe more
Starting point is 01:09:26 more pesed than the Elie. So I believe that if it's O'Ili not use the strategy certain of the ground,
Starting point is 01:09:34 find the entry of the Kedat and to work the Jiu-Gitzo, with it, it's a very really, it's a bit of your
Starting point is 01:09:41 pop-pit? This is my Pop-Pit. I think the Lemus Vense if I think if I think if I'm
Starting point is 01:09:47 if I'm going to go to the second, the third-Rourd, LEMS, with of the trocaation, I don't see, if Alemus
Starting point is 01:09:54 can't do five rounds, with the Wally, he's, he has been doing this some years,
Starting point is 01:09:59 in some in some the questions, but in the question of force, if the Weli, not,
Starting point is 01:10:07 not, not, not, not to work to work, the grade, not can't Alemus,
Starting point is 01:10:13 with the certainly, will be nocout, second, the other side of the other side,
Starting point is 01:10:22 we're on the October, on the Saturday with a Gavin Tucker, before to
Starting point is 01:10:26 make a excellent first impression in the first in the first time, getting in the time, picking a guy, that many people
Starting point is 01:10:32 evitae a lot of his wife, made a great lot, not won't have been seen, but,
Starting point is 01:10:38 with many of fans, I'm sure, and by the podcast, me how may be the being the
Starting point is 01:10:45 second for this second and boost of the first victory. No, the preparation is being
Starting point is 01:10:50 very good now, now, I've been a good time to try now, a time
Starting point is 01:10:54 of fact, now. Now I I've time to train to after the
Starting point is 01:10:59 last time. After the last time, just a second of a second for us to recover a
Starting point is 01:11:05 little, but then we've put to train and all focused on the objective that came to come
Starting point is 01:11:10 to front. And unfortunately, it's the opportunity to do that the 5 August,
Starting point is 01:11:15 this Saturday. So, I'm very happy, I'm I'm excited for all
Starting point is 01:11:19 what has happened, and you me mentioned, after I think I'm I'm ready to do you
Starting point is 01:11:27 know, the other your adversary is a guy that's in the DFC, I've seen
Starting point is 01:11:32 many people but he's a guy that not a lot a lot time, from the last two
Starting point is 01:11:41 years ago, you know, I'm made, if I'm wrong, for five, six luts in this
Starting point is 01:11:45 interval of time, you think that you do you how is the question of how it's
Starting point is 01:11:50 how you think that's that you think it's that's that's So a little inactive, at a few, it affects a little,
Starting point is 01:11:56 but also, but also, it's the people more intelligent, because we're a lot a lot of, we know, we're not,
Starting point is 01:12:04 not trying, or not are not not doing, we're not doing, and we're always, and we're doing the people, so we're,
Starting point is 01:12:09 also a part of the head, yeah, it's, you're a little, a little bit, a time, and when I'm
Starting point is 01:12:15 going to, I've got, I've got a lot, so, so, I'm, so, so, I'm, so,
Starting point is 01:12:19 can't be, to do, a good lot there's a other another another
Starting point is 01:12:22 the other and then you're another the other bonus too. the other another very, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:50 to messclar very there a part of the strike with the with the other,
Starting point is 01:12:55 he's we know that he's a guy complete and know that he's a man who
Starting point is 01:12:59 he's very to be to the three rounds there is a man that is a
Starting point is 01:13:05 hard yeah, the last he's a time he got he ended for a
Starting point is 01:13:11 knockout he, he was he was a man but he got a man again
Starting point is 01:13:15 but he had paid a decision he's a a guy Dura to separate, you think
Starting point is 01:13:21 that this Luta D three rounds or you think that you pick him before? I think it a,
Starting point is 01:13:26 how I can say it's a 50-50 like a way to make to the decision the law
Starting point is 01:13:30 can't end up because I'm a person, I'm a durator I'm
Starting point is 01:13:35 a guy who love to finish a lot rapid of my two
Starting point is 01:13:38 one of I think I'm two two has been so my objective
Starting point is 01:13:41 will be my my front to go to to make to
Starting point is 01:13:44 find to the You, you Heard which is a man, a guy durisim,
Starting point is 01:13:50 and now you're inventing the Kevin Tucker. There's a gap there, obviously in the UFC,
Starting point is 01:13:56 po, everyone is hard, nobody will be a lot fast there, but there's a gap of talent so,
Starting point is 01:14:01 of difficulty, I imagine, of one to not enter in a lot, maybe to salt the thing,
Starting point is 01:14:07 I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm, talked about like a person, and I'm
Starting point is 01:14:11 a great little bit, and I'm, I'm almost I've got a guy, and now I'm going to get a guy to get a little bit. So, how is how much do you, like, what I did you feel like that? This one thing is, this that's going to be molless, will be
Starting point is 01:14:22 tranquil, to try to gain him. So, I always, I'm always, I'm always, for me, will be the last during my career. Always for me, I take a lot more more during my career, so I'm always a lot more in my career, so I always enter with a your objective, which is gain, depending
Starting point is 01:14:39 of the guy, if he has more experience, if he is more new, if he is better in strike, if he is better in Jiu-Jitz, or in my objective is always, yeah, I'm going to be the same, independent of who is the adversary. I try to, I'm,
Starting point is 01:14:53 I'm, I'm, I'm, like, as you said, I'm going to put this salt to help, you, know, always, you know, because we know, it's MMA, yeah, MMEA, yeah, can happen to do all, we know, we know, we know, we know, as soon as I'm motivated
Starting point is 01:15:07 to this fight, with course he's motivated, even more after after two years in nativity, so I think it's a guy that's a lot with this motivation, because I
Starting point is 01:15:15 have a certain that he saw, I know that when he's a lot of a hard, a man a man d'clock, a man, we're a lot more,
Starting point is 01:15:23 and always be more, I'm trying more, I'm trying strong, but I'm I'm trying to try not, I'm also, I'm trying strong, so,
Starting point is 01:15:29 so, it will be, it will be a good, I'm, I'm ready, to, I'm ready, to show the Diego Lops for them,
Starting point is 01:15:36 and what I am able, and to bring this victory to us. And you think, po,
Starting point is 01:15:40 I'm going to a great victory, the UFC you can even remarked the lot with the Worldweb,
Starting point is 01:15:46 that's, after that we've been supposed, you said, you said, even, even, we're going to
Starting point is 01:15:52 be, we know, what happens just now, you know, it's not, but you're going to
Starting point is 01:15:58 make this new again. Yeah, so, it's an objective, the objective to be going to be able to
Starting point is 01:16:03 escalar in the rank, now, after the final of the week. The objective is this, yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:09 to get a carers to do- to continue to start on the Ranking, if the Lov is there in the way,
Starting point is 01:16:14 we have to pass by it also, it's the objective, have a revanch with him because,
Starting point is 01:16:19 as I'm, as I know, the people are saying, I know, he, I know, I
Starting point is 01:16:25 know, I'm also, he's, he's, he's a month, a month and a little,
Starting point is 01:16:29 but I'm not so much time, now, so I'm, so I'm both been trained with a
Starting point is 01:16:34 strategy been mounted, would be different, a lot of a lot of much better in my point of view of my point of view of for the same. Just for we just to finish
Starting point is 01:16:42 here, is the guy who usually see much media social, accompany Instagram, the expertise of fans of Lutta that are more
Starting point is 01:16:50 of humor and but all, but everyone always talk of your penteeado, man, of your
Starting point is 01:16:54 point of your inspiration, always, it's always never had this cord of cable there or is a
Starting point is 01:17:01 question for some more more recent that is a mod there much more more of Emo and
Starting point is 01:17:07 in the 2000. So, car, to clarify this this thing, I'm not I'm emo
Starting point is 01:17:14 no, I'm not a lot of people say, simply poor, I use my
Starting point is 01:17:20 hair my hair when I had like eight years of age, so
Starting point is 01:17:26 it's 20 years using my hair on my life, I think almost
Starting point is 01:17:31 in the beginning of my career that I did a lot a careca,
Starting point is 01:17:36 nothing more, but I'm doing the lot of the same style of the moikano, the franca
Starting point is 01:17:42 the franca and the people ask if I'm a trapol and I'm not me atrapal
Starting point is 01:17:48 I'm used I'm used to every day with the hair with the day with the way to
Starting point is 01:17:52 get a little to get a little more more than no no me atrapal in
Starting point is 01:17:56 nothing and no I'm I don't I'm I'm I
Starting point is 01:18:02 I love much too too I'm It's something, but it's going to not, let's the
Starting point is 01:18:07 people, please the memory of the person, so it's a little, it's a good, it's a
Starting point is 01:18:12 good, what's what's it's a more Brazilian, or how you live in Mexico a much
Starting point is 01:18:18 time, it's more to the music of Mexico now. So, a little we're,
Starting point is 01:18:23 we try to, try to try to try, I'm trying to try to a little but we're more
Starting point is 01:18:27 here, we're we're more the rhythm of music that here, the, the rap
Starting point is 01:18:32 Mexican, that the guys have a good music and a good, a good message and the reggaeton, that I think also are playing a little in Brazil now so are the style of music
Starting point is 01:18:42 that I'm also because the rapist, the rapist, the rapist, I always have always liked, yeah, of the time of Brazil
Starting point is 01:18:50 so to get to hear this style of music, I think it was with me and the reggeton is a little more like the
Starting point is 01:18:56 with the funk, you know, how they love the music and all this, so, you know, the style
Starting point is 01:19:02 the Brazilian you don't know to be a part of a little a little bit of a little a little bit of
Starting point is 01:19:08 what you like you like you know, you know, I'm a lot I'm really for a car
Starting point is 01:19:12 but I'm this day I'm this day I'm going to this day one of the one time and some
Starting point is 01:19:19 maybe the next you know, you're going to you're going to talk a little for us
Starting point is 01:19:23 then I try I'm trying a remember a good music there and I can't
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