MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | A insana história da nova promessa francesa no UFC

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

Benoit Saint Denis encara Dustin Poirier no UFC 299 de olho em uma possível chance ao cinturão dos leves da organização, e o treinador Daniel Woirin, que garimpou o ex-militar francês antes do seu inicio no MMA, fala ao Trocação Franca sobre sua incrível trajetória. O podcast recebe ainda o jornalista Coutinho, do Canal Encarada, para destrinchar o UFC 297 e suas ramificações. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Benoit Saint Denis meets Dustin Poirier at UFC 299 eyeing a future shot at the lightweight belt, and coach Daniel Woirin, who discovered the former French paratrooper before his start in MMA, joins Trocação Franca to look back at his incredible journey. The podcast also welcomes Canal Encarada’s Coutinho to break down all the UFC 297 storylines and future ramifications. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit darktrace.com forward slash defenders for more information. MMA fighting in Brazil Guillermo Cruz Hello, loo, am I'm a big of centeasmo, 24th

episode of podcast Trocaceau Franca, your house about MMA on this immense boat of the spherra I'm gonna

I'm gonna and M.A. Fahre in Brazil and I'm back in the company of the great Louis Fernando Coltino

the owner of the channel in carada to smil in details what rolled in the FC 297

in the last Saturday. All right my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my name, myrived,

very good be a good good to be a good to be a great time to be a great to be a lot

to say, the event was animated, the result made a lot people, and we're the end the

life, and we'll try to understand for what. Very good, I, to have a person

brilliant, like you, and we're going to point, that was the great topic, going to

the event, all the people just alls he said about this lute. And, he continued

for other the decision of the jury, which was the dispute of the suburb of the first country and the

African, Dr. Drixx Duplecci. Direct to point, who is the champion the middle,

who would be the champion the general, if you're a judge, he decided. Coddard,

the champion would be the champs tricland in my vision, he was a 2. I think,

I think was a lot but, but there's a efforted in a detail and there's a perted

because it was a two. Any third to two, it's a two, it's a lot, it's a lot a lot but it's not quite

clear, you know, in my vision, I, when it was I said, I said, po,

it's, I'm, because I see, after the fourth round in pat, two to

two, so, so for me, who made the last round, would be the last

the street and the It was even the round more clear of the the fight. So,

for me, it was a sure that would be the chance trickling. So I confess that I don't

understand. When I said the result of I was like, I'm like, I'm sure. I don't understand the

result of the result of the duple C. Because, other, like, like,

a quote, a, po, a lot of a lot of a lot of both sides, but I'm,

but I'm, but, I'm, victory of chance trickling, I still I never leave in consideration that question

that is a cliche, this not is not in the rules of the commissions the world total,

the commissions atletic of the world but we know that there that there that you

take the title of a champion you have to be expressive, not can be sure

and even that the Dupcci had been beencited the luta it,

it didn't not clear, or obvious the If there was someone who who went over

any more margin there a little more convincing and my opinion was the so I don't understand

but this reaction of the guy was a garfo robado I don't goge of

this type of discourse not I'm a bobeer in 2004 to think that that the

things that are that things I'm thinking a public passional even with Chans

Trickley you see the level of popularity of the chan. It's, even in Brazil, the people

tors real for him, and I think it's part. But, like, I don't see a,

no, I don't go to encourage these course of the assault or the rube, but I'm

that I'm not the end of the round of dissident not was no 5th, that you said,

that all the jurors did a fifth round for the chance, Liquid, without polemicent, no problem with any. The dissident was the third

that two jurors punted, two jurors, and only one punted to support the Chanshryker. So, the Dupresi gained in the opinion of two jurors,

gaining the second and the third and the fourth round with Chans Trickin gained the first and the fifth, and the round, and the judge who discorded

he disagreed his, and gave a lot to the vote in favor of Shans Strickland. Pontow the first, and the fifth, and the fifted.

So, in the whole world I was impotated two to two going to but it's

that's that there's there's an great debate of a pointuation about,

to informant how it in the box Olympic, it's a round everyone knows,

for who the jurors have putt the victory in those five minutes had been

been very different the because maybe the duplecy entered in the

fifth round a chance that was a two to two or I think he was a three a one for him or the tricker

he thought that was two a two to for that's he was very more aggressive in the fifth round

so it's the point open to answer the point open to the chance Strickland would enter

in the fourth round knowing he would be able because if he would be

he would he could be a lot uh yeah this discussion very

yeah we've had to do this we have to a I think so much very

very the value or not, the use of the pointuation the end up the point of the shot. It's true. The first time, for the the second round, poor, he was the guy that went to go ahead. And I confess, the third round, if I'm not the much. And I even it's because, it's because all right, I don't know I'm a doctor, no,

a shot to start you stank out there. But I think that in a round to other, the guys would have done a resolve-d, but, po, whatever spiro, a first spiro of the Plessy that passed over, and it

just got, it's all over. I perceived, very like the Scho said, I think he said that he said the lot, it made very sense, he needed, he needed a round

entire to recalcular the Rota. And it It was more or less the impression that I I really, because he really, after he suffered the court, I realized

the style of his style of his style of he was with a lot to be in front to be in front. But, but I think

it was a lot that was, it will have a revanch a day, I hope that have a revanch a day.

But I don't see, if you, you said, did you, you, you, you saw,

what was, you, you saw, what was, you, I think I gave victory to the chance

Shulikland but the same thing I'm not robo super-aceptable any result it's the type of whatever

whatever side that's no exists robbo no exists pooh there's a lot of a

arm-am-amated we've seen a lot than this a debate with what gerow a debate

much more acalorated but then we're we're in in 2024 now all everything

everything happens create a million of theories of conspiracy not because

Garfaroos Strickland because he said he said boy this he's this is

these these these these these yeah but I think it

was a retort of the sport not it is difficult to point to point

the system is a a system is a not a system created for

the MMA yeah it's a system that came to box so not it's

not a so I don't and I don't see today alternatives of pointuation very

in other places. One Championship is different is judged the lot total and not in the

system to 10 to 9 but it's a thing style pride but not

not so precise so too so we're just about we're just about

a pointoation aberta there in the state of Kansas there in the

United they're they're testing just a time this a pointuation

aberta, the Invicta always does events there, so the events of Invicta were being

with a post-round, after round, a post-round. Many people defend that, no, the pointuation

is wrong, because the guy, he will wince the two first time, he will

know, he can roll out for five minutes that he will be but the other guy

know, he needs to know to be to be a million in the third round

to you want to you're not a one one one one

has been two sides there. and the person who got two rounds I got, I gained two rounds trocando porrada with you in

par with you do you want to you're in person for you're in if I'm going to be in past during 10 minutes what I'm going to move the style

of my style of the law clearly, it's just to guarantee my victory for points here. It's a

because it's a risk too right, exactly. Exactly, but it's a risk because you will be able

in the way to be to do it to dovetous to dovetous to you guarantee a victory that you think will be after five minutes you know, you know, it's not, but if you're taking a 10 to 8

is a impasse, right? If you're taking a pound there. So, I think it would be it would be a pen to test an event major, in an event

more, with more constance. And not just those evictas that, unfortunately, have many times

they do this event in Kansas, they do this event one night only that's three luts

and it's a quarter of final and semifinal are lots of one round one round

is five minutes so because the the commissions not can't that you

do five rounds in the same night so it one round after

then then to have to have putto a lot is a lot of

a lot of a lot yeah what is like you what you are you will reveal

in the final of this one round but really I think it's test to in other platforms,

in events major to see this would be that would not be it's not going to

a pointuation equivocation of a judge, but will give the athlete the chance to

know in time real what is what's happening and try to try

to correct to do do you I think there's that there's a problem in a commission of Canada, you know,

the guy has the case of a lot of effort so I'm thinking on these porras not like not that's not that's

not that's horrible, but we've seen, for example, the commission of New York that's protagonizing a porrada of

and I'm thinking, car, can't it, can't have been a maybe the community

the commission of the notlatic of not, not there's the country, I'm talking the

arpits, the jury. Enfing, I'm going past the case. So, then

I'm going to try. So, in this case not, because the three juices of

the lot of the law were the judges, were very experienced. Derek Cleary,

the Eric Colon and the Sal Diamato, who are arbiters, are the time all all the

time all. The salt damat is a vetter Nass. Well, it was he, the judge

that did the victory to the, but this happens in events men or

for example in a car of preliminar of the other the other he

there juises there like, for example Salin Hanip who were a

judge of the Lutta and the Zavloev also he had arbitrated

he abitored three luts this night before of this he arbitro

only a one a lot in March of last

in 2011 in 2019 in officer. I don't if he's in events

that don't appear in the email and Decisions which is a site very good to compile

results, decisions and but for this site, he has events relevant

so events are events great are five luts in five years that he

arbitro that he he took and he had a Patrice Verdemer

who put two the last the event the last the last

the last she was in May of 2019 and before this, March of 2014 in events of Belator

like you are abd, as you're some judges are judges with more more experience and these

of commissions locales are much more subject to do you do the other

Chansh's Dikand the Dupuze were three jurors experienced but really

The guy that's in preliminary, it's it's a preoccupant to you go to say to Vegas and do a lot preliminary in Toronto, because you're quite the risk of to get a

judge in an initiant or who who can't who not are that's always in the UFC, no. It's that,

but, but, I see what, to, I see in front also, I, I liked the

what the Denawat said, you know, I've got, but the but the law the person and it

it's a end up to do the margin to the sport is so I think the mannour also that's

not quite that's it's a excuse, understand you know, he said, oh,

he said, he said, he said, the he's, but it is so, one of

the phrase that he said, the game, the life is so, the life

so, it's, it's, so, it's, it's, but, this discourse

of, porra, lot, lot, compra, robos, carl, oh,

by the most God, no more of the way of your opinion, about Drix Drixie, a champion

of the FC. He's a experience good in FICT, vines of a sequence there,

a manner to, po, amassal the Derenton, amassal the Ransson, the surprise

that was the no-coct of his about the Robert Wittaker, that he got to

get a lot a lot but he is a person, like a man,

he can, has potential to be to be able to be a champion of the F.C. during much time, or you think it's

like a most of the guy as I'm who got a man who won't know that's a back to get to

this batata there. Cara, I think, I think curious, because the Dupresi,

I think, I think, this guy not will be done much in post of a champion.

For other, I think he's doing a role, he's doing a role he

he's a person to the world of the world of but not present it

but it but it's involved it was in form convincing and efficient

because I Dr. Dr. Duplecis is presenting the style disengoncated

my man I think imagine how is a guy like a

duple with his style he does it seems it's weird and it

I think imagine that this definitely there should have been an doctor

because how you so you're to be for the Poatan that

there a technique absurd in the trocaation it's a strange because you

don't know, there's a kind of there's a little bit he's got a cabisada

in a bunda of Shans Tricland, you know? Like, like he, he's a caramba

so it's a guy who can't be he's kind of he's stature but gop with a wrong

it's weird it's it's or maybe the obvious is it is so different so disengooncated

that it is difficult to make a question we can admit that

guy who go to front, it's temed you know, there's a man that's a man

a man a lot of, that's a machoca, but if I don't mean, he's not me can't,

he's 10 for via rapid, you know? So, so, I think that this style

of him does not not leave much to get much to make sure, but the guy, knockouted

Robert Whitaker, he's been Dehran Tew, Derek Bronson, porteer or not in the division is a guy I even I even thought

a part of Twitter I think good enough that Derek Bronson is that he appears in all the highlight

of the middle, that he's pano of almost everyone. But the Duplice

is doing a sequence very good and now will be probably a lot really a

great be the next the next rival the Adesani the Ki Maev

the Poatana no it anniversary very great, but we have to start to admit that the

guy, a lot of something that's not quite a person, nobody should be the top of the F.C.,

it's true, that not all the lot of the proletor of the Pouatam, primor technical of Adesania, a geniality

of Anderson-Silver, then will have the brigadour there that eventually he will be eventually he will do

do the job to to a top of a division I don't think he will be to be a

champion I think in the next he's he doesn't I don't favoriseria

he to get to Adesania not favor to get to Potan not favor to get

to get to Kmaev for much I think he may have still the last Luton

was a very was a really but he got so he needs to

he needs to try he against a against a against a

against a Uzman against a lot against the over. It's even

even, it's a suffolk against Usma, if it was 5-Hawls against Usma, maybe I'd maybe I'd

perhaps there's a lot of, in in in the It's very well, in 93. So I think if the DuPrecis to get the Adesania, the Adesania, I think he's going to be,

and there's all to be a class, if he doesn't be emboled with this style Mondrongue do Preci have all to be a amma,

of the trocaation in the same of him. I also I think, because the Andesan is the most the most high level of the technique,

a trocator nato, a striker nato has movementation, invergatura and the duplicy is that what we're seeing gongone, go ahead, goes chained a breache

here, another there, shbarraki, trapec, so I think, in the paper I think that's quite

this, I think the Adesania atropela doing a good, and bich, also I think

the lot perfect, so for the F.C. 300, this demora to Dena White to define

what is the cerege of Bolo who at-a-to-a-to-a-to-moment, in-court-o-chreau-court-a-trocaption-franca-cara in the warlike in Adesania. The Adesania not will go back to any value.

He knows that he is the most rachio of the actuality in this sense, to leader a card of FC-300, and to resolve, secure the moral of Denna-Wight, that we've had the announcement of the admonautil Hullway, in the answer of the GANSingate by the BMF Tyro, I've got a

little bit, a moral of the event, a fault of the ball. What would be that? She'd be a idea, there's a narrative,

a lot of competitive, interesting. So, so, the Adesania, if for maland, he will get a senior a bolada

to resolve the UFC 300. The Duplice has made sure that's that's in, if the FC wants

that happens, and it's a sturturt, you know, you imagine, if you're the last thing, you're,

if you're the things, not a to-o-o-a-oh. No, no the lot of the puttador far to be to be 2039

or to or to or just to know, maybe the issue of the point of the

thing he's paying on the case. Then he he won't reconquished

the centuron of the middle, it's the only the only the other

that could accomplishes this third first that he would the

title the the title of the category of the middle and one

of the three ways was So you imagine. If he wins the duplicacy, recuperation the throne of the meds, he could even be to be able to beckon.

Get me, you know? It's always there's an expectation for a revenge between Adesani and Potan, but I think the Adesani

is a situation very good now. I think that's the solution to Denalait for F.C. 300. It's a solution

very necessary, not. It's a time. It's a ceree the borese to be a caird to be a special.

It's a card good. So, a card de ball, the pattern normal of Juperville. But it's that the 299 is an animal.

So you can't have been to have gone to 200, for the question of the 5th. Yeah, no, it's not no way. I think that's

99 is gigantic because the careca is batting the head with Francis Ingunnour. That's the lot happens,

the lute of Antonioch goes in the Vespera. So I think he made this card so great

that is to nobody remember that the Inganu will be front other champion world in

box. So, But, but, car, it's a matter for the TuderaWash

for that a guy, a child great, a instinct competitive of the macho the macho of

the Ryeh but the ender a lot of the thing, Tosolandoah, the F.C. 300, W.C. 100,

W.c. FFC200, it was a foda, this card has to be a foda. I think it's just a fault that's just a lot of Duclecy complete the card of the level that we expect. I think it's

very, for us, Brazilian, Gu, let's confess, it would be very a very event that if Charles and Potan. But, so, the Adesania just attend, yeah, because even being Poitin to Brazil,

is a guy very popular and that carry a much attention. And guard the Poetan to Brazil, it's all the way to it's a

idea of the UFC 301 in New New New York so let the Charles

in the 300 spot on a 300 would be a excellent sequence right

and to where go to the chance of my question is the

now now now you what you would you would

if I was the company or the matchmaker of

UFC I I for me the the look the

would the revenge of Diary of Canonia, because it was a decision divided, too, it was a lot of time, a year and a little after,

and a year and a lot of both. The United States, the Canonia got the last one daughter of the Marge in the story, but the Canonia was so he stored the leg in October, and all the, all the thing indicates, that maybe demore a little bit

to return, so I would put the chance of Dugge's against the Robert Wittaker. He took a knockout share in Duplecy, I don't know how it's the plans of his to do you to do with, I think it would be a lot of because he would probably

the winner to go back in the way to have a chance of centurral, what you would you would have if you would have this power of choice?

First, I need to ask the fact Robert Tuita that he'll confronter Paola Moorahua? Or simply ignored? I simply I simply didn't.

In fact, I really me I just because I forgot that this was a lot was marked. It's

because it was marked and canceled a lot of it. It's it's a public and

counter the sub- under the other than the lot of the question, I think it's put a

little bit or the Robert Whitton that's I'm a matter. I'm a not,

no, no, I don't I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not you

think, but, but, my vision of the future of the chance-stry I think, And,

especially after fight week, the Shann he moved to practice the military. I don't

see more the Shansh if he were expert and if he, it's been interesting, it's a

thought, it's a problem, he no infantic more than he no front more

he's a guy who never was to keep playing and looking

the lot that's not come much with Shan Strickland that is a guy who

is a thing of corraud, to make the others feel the pain, the dores that they

have seen, I'm in my impression, if I'm the team of Chans-Trickland, I'm a mangown,

a lot of the public that you've that you moved to, that you impactor, not there's

because you have to be these guys, so if I were the Chans-Tweckland and more the palpite

of the future of his is that, he will end up he's a guy of the

other a rival of Kimaev in the category of the match, it's a lot sort of it's a lot of a

Arabia Saudita that's that's a year that's so it's a a lot of a lot of money the chance

trickage I don't see if it's a idea of the UFC but if you put to to put to for carama

in Apex then he went to be back to Australia and frontal Adesania went to

to Canada and yeah of the FCE he can do you want to

play him he's he's there in So, or Kimaev or the winner of this lot of Borrachina

are the guy of the number more more strong Jared's Kanonier would be a past, even by the way,

he was, he didn't know, he perdeal the but, so, many people thought he got got to,

so, I think it's a pass much a time he'd be a any of these guys of

any, but I'm too, it's difficult deciphered too, it's possible, it's

blah, too, that he's two years he's he's he's someone in

the category so, but my real real pitch is this man he may he may have or he may

or one of two, the borrachin or Wittaker. It's really that you can't any of

he, he, he, he, he, confronted Nassurgy, Mavov,

and Abus Magumedov to be to get a chance to the centurion he did he had to any of the

one man, he's six years of the guy, he was infunded He was confronting Abus Magomedov, another that not would have any much

sense to him, but it was, it was that in the end up in the end up the end up the hour, no? And a part of that me passed this impression, a little bit before we started, the gravation, I was seeing the vlog that he posted on the channel of his. First is this, he created

a channel of his channel, momented the channel that he has in the YouTube. This is a a action of who has been in a team, who thinks in the future, monetize, the success, and then I was. and then I see that there's

link to buy a can't be a camisa called to the death until the death,

that was a first he said he said a whole so you reassurcina the velocity imagine

that he not not he not not not he not programmed

to do not not program yeah yeah he's he's on the

third death to the press the hand the duplice all lukes,

carluck, the, porre, not was he, the, the, it was he, and said,

he said, I'm going to say, this is there movement on the night, we're going to be sure, this can't

get this can't, and we're going to be sure, the chan, have much more than you think, so,

so, if he not, if he not there's not there's not a team to agilize this,

it's the problemed all this, so it of Raquel Penitow against the Maira Chitara. The my question is, this division respirator for appareles?

Oh, I'd say that's in, I don't know if it's because there's many lotators, not, not like a

peasopena feminine, that no has been no, there's instant. There's even no,

no, so, I don't say, I don't say, I don't say, I don't say, but,

but, definitely, and it's It's interesting to see after the other happened

some some comments pipocating unjust I'd I'd love see

these comments like like that someone will feel like about Amanda

Nunes or valorize what she was because the lot was

beautiful to see I I'm I'm I thought she

was she because she she's a kind of a person

she's a true she a strong I think she would I think it's that

that's what the category needs. If for some the people not value the people not know the lotas or the interviews and

those are you have to gore to know that the juliana Penh is what is what is a controversial of my part because I think a

Julianna Pence has turned a personage chatta but for other side it is necessary to admit to

to chitara against a chita against a lot much interesting in the division a Julia Panha

against Raquel Pennington, not will be not. I'm getting there's a story about there's a story of

a lot, porre, nobody know, I'm going to have to do you know what

that's that's that's the two. Because until then I didn't know

so I'm so I'm so I think this type of person like a Chittara does

well, I'm sure that she ever the head a and reaffa the path,

and other other lotators can start understand because more

than the the work in the I think the extra Kade also is a

important. Faults for many people and it's a lot of other people, it's not you have to

be good on the microphone and also be good in the other than the Kydh but I think

it's I think it would be better the division if the Shittara to be but not

happened what it is the Julianna Panh will have to hold a

only on now. We're going to have to have to have a

rivalid of two two two Tuf X 18 of 2013 was the Tuf, that was Julianne Pena

Penae, she's Tuf, Amil, how is you have a time, you know, to have a work to tell you to find out of many, many posts in the networks, in the social,

to be able to, try, try, to try, that's what you said, nobody's so, nobody's important, and nobody's

nobody's, because nobody knows of this rivalry. A Raquel Penton is a person practically null in the promotion, of the lot,

so that this Lutta, the Chitar carried on the coasts she was, she was a she was a

mired much, mired much, at Joina Penh. Because a Raquel Peniton simply, not had a interview ever

to be there, went there, and got a a lot of a lot was a great, it was a great, it,

was a lot, so, it's, now we're going to get to get to

get to , what will be the malis the men, if it's a

champion without like Raquel Penning or a champion mala like a Julianna

Panne? And even after the interview on the D.M. A. Rapparal

Rauhouni in M. Juliana Penh said, that I'd have been

that she'd have been seen. Yeah, would be able to bring more and attract more attention to,

Raquel Peniton is a jobed to her. It's a double of because she is used

to be used to attract the attention to public. So, so, complicated, and now,

and now, I'm going to to think to think, today, you see, what is the lot of

the champion of the FC that's a car to so far as alex to be in Mexico.

For that even a Valentina was even a not, you know, that's

the Julianna Penha contra the were would be a main-event

as two. But, but, so, it's a chance major that we have to see a card

leadered for something because if not there's no way it's a event of everything that's a superiors.

Tantto a Jainuii also will be being in the event if you're not not going to be an event

in the United, of a paper view, not that not will not do that Alexa

Grazso not was a paper view not, was that was that was a flight night

Mexican there, the last the UFC you see, you see, it's not

not you know, it's we're going to we're in any of the personage, in any of the person a force there,

a ronda rouse Amanda Nuddes even if could get a time, but also if Shetara was champion,

she would not could be an event of the F.C. Rio, it would be a manivent considered

fracas if was she was she'd not, the people, the people, I'd be a, you know,

not be a preview that the people had reclamable Amanda Nunes doing a Mendevent in the FC Rio against the proper Rakel Pennington, imagine

if it was a Shitara against a Julianna Pania of the Vita Vida. Yeah, no, if you were talking to FC 300, the Menevente of

200 was Amanda Nunes against Misha Tate, all right, Cahue, and it was in any other situation, the FC

would do another way and get another lute to get to make a Monde versus Tate was in Cormier

Sylva, the Sime of the Lottahe with Mark Hunch. So, so, it were names more more important

that a lot of that we're not there's not even. So, the category only will survive if

have persones and stories interesting, you think. The category depends on the Vanda Nunes.

She made in the air, there, did that did that the actissada

to see the reaction to see the person, you, you come the barul, you think

that Amanda Annes, eventually, decide to return, or will court the aposentadoria there? You have to tweeted, that I

don't know, who I'm never, you know, who never has been in the world of the lotator is

to do do that's that's a thing that he's a moment, if he not never had a

other obligation, if he not decided do do a class, teach

Jiu-T, Maitai, kick-box, wrestling, or do you have a palestra for the world if you don't

have a other distraction I think naturally the body will implore to that he will be a

really a we never lot of the unfortunately Dana White never gave a chance for a

but it's a really bizarre that you you will feel that you

know so like so amanda Amanda yeah yeah yeah and it

It's interesting, that Amanda said, ah, the life that I live I'm I'm going to

be more pretty sure, and being a lot of I'm not a manna mace preguis

preguise I'm a little a guy there, then know? So, so,

honestly, it's, honestly, I don't see the UFC doing force to Amanda

go, not, just for a thing she's a man, but, but,

Amanda Nunes just to just to stand a category entire, I don't know if Amanda can't, you know, I don't think

the UFC not would have the bank, open the coffre to gop to play a montane of money to

get her to bring her to get her, but I think if she if she would she'd do that she

would be the Tate's in the data that she because she has a a piece historical more

than any other this category but at the same they're going to be a bit redicentious because if Amanda

Nunes, she'll come to get the new, and let the new the category without the

campaign. Look, how time it's the post-unus of the Minnesota of the

national to be able to be a new so if she she does again,

I'd be a year, maybe a category, no one a category, without a

a champion, some don't that will have to be to prove she will have to defend the centuron to the

Nican, she's a matter of the matter of the moment's, because when she's when she's

when she's a party Nunez, for a party, right? I think the the best the chance that we have

there's a man to go to get she is if a champion I, know,

dominate I, defend the one, two ways, and perturbate the Amanda. Until the

the hour that Amanda will say, poor, bitch, the mom-law, I'm going to get a porrada of new, because you're talking much, get out of this,

man, if you're Amanda Nunes, you're going to do you want to do you, do you're doing what, you're doing

the M. Por, no, Bias, won't be, a champion dupe, won't, both, the names

grand of MMA feminine, you, you meted the porrada, you know, you're not, you're a porrada. So,

so, it's difficult. It would really just for money, and money to where I know Amanda

has a manned has been very, very impressive what the next her if you if you could be

to you define to you define this I don't see I'm sure I think she can't do a pass

much much after so I think I think I think the I'm gonna go back the last

the last the last someone who's someone who's still a number four a Ketle

in Vierra also the event it's a confront Brazilian will that happens

in Brazil The Holy Home, she's She's been And then There's a Like, I'm very name

It's like, I'm a Misha, Vend a victory I think Yeah, exactly the Mish that I'd

pointaria because they would be front and the Lute ended up going to after the

Misha Tate came to enter to enter to Holy Home and then the Chitaa gained the Rolly Home

so, man, it's a teta that that's a back to but it's Mishatat-T

she she, she, she, of the other in the rank, she went to the division

after the after the lot of the lot of course that was to look at the division to be in

the business most, so I'm there's a man, it's a much marketing, because it's a

you will have more appeal to public if you get to get to the

if you go to you know you're you know you're you're you're going to

get to get more than you go to go and you go and finalize

the that's on the ranking. So, the question marketing, it's a

question of market, it's a very, so, it's, so, it's, it's,

and moments that's really more you get someone of this level, like, and do you

know, and do you know, because if Bobia, in the next lot,

with the rivalry that she has she was she she, she's, she's

she's a stutral in the question, considering that she, I'm not sure that the has a

gain of Raquel Pennington but I think can't it can't be a machete because it could be a ultimate

suspirio not the Mekana the FC botta her against her his defiant the title the Tate

Vense she's she's all she's she's a she's a she's a friend

she's a she's a Penaena I think if a Tate disputed the Tate Tis Dissue

but today now it's the Rakeel Pennetton and the game is a jogged

so know God what happens Julianna Penna is always a chance

to go to the tally the tate if the t she wins a chitata of the uh... if the tauts and the the champion is a julina

and it's a realtianna it's right there's a lot more than you can't do you can't do I don't have many the options not I'm

it's a very much I'm sure I'm sure and it's to finish here my friend you

I'm a podcast will have now a interview with Daniel Vohan who trained Lenders

Lendas both Calib of Annes Silva Dehrenerson and that formed now the

Pesolive French Benois Sandini and in the UFC 299 infrented

the Dux for you know for you know for who can't people A lot of people

good, and he told a story, if we'll hear the story the story of Benas and I, I'd like

know, I'd like about the thing, because we've the division of the labs now,

it's interesting because the Marathev not has no, he's insisting much, he'd

insisting much to get to the Jason Gate, and now the Gaet

Enron the Halloye, there's the Charles of Brokes who will have

front of the Armant of Sarukian and there, who has been to for a

guy for a the French, the Benoit Sadele, running for over this fight specifically what you you're still

that's really a little bit of the poria, a man, porre, parimbado there's giving a chance for a young

talent that's that's surging now, yeah, I'm exactly, I've, I've said, I've done,

since he confronted the McGregor, he just said that's the guy that he's going to get to

whatever he did, he doesn't need more to get more to work this type of risk,

but it's a signal that the FC have to the bolstered the

car because to make to make to make a about the abacach

in the way to have been a bad at a ballad absurd the

the FC is a first the MMA in France advance in

popularity and the Benois Sandini passing by poria in an

event like he will be very very very close

to a chance for the title in one of

the one of the categories more the not I

don't I conclusion but today I still I still I'm still

I'm a I'm a favorite in this but I'm a lot bad news is a lot of

a crescent absurd are five five victories and I'm don't me expressively

the Poria in the last lot was poor was was quite

made to metavers by the J. Getsingate with that Pernada

so so I'm curious how he he He's a paper Porier

is a favorite, but it's a lot of a lot of a lot a a

and then we we'll go to interval commercial and we'll have been in

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he's been a opportunity wonderful to confrontal the Densipourier, in the UFC 299, a lot of

five rounds, a lot that is a lot that'soose to be, after the amazco that the Bano

did in the year in FSA, no, it's true. It's really, I, Bainois, I'm incredible.

I came with him to zero, I picked this car to zero in France, I

did a test of selection, to do a team professional and he came to

four years after. He was zero, no, it's zero, zero, no, no,

did a fight, nothing, was a military, a force special, he did

Jiu-Gitzo with Kistav Sabokar during two years, did a push of judo, so this.

And I took a attention. The fact, the In the fact, when I did the T-J selection with him, there was a lot of a lot of professional, that had 15, 20 luts, I putte with a car, I saw, I saw him with him,

to try in-peer, I saw in the way, in the West. I said, puch, this car never did nothing and he's doing 50-50 with a professional. I was, I'm, I'm, because in the beginning, and for this, because in the initial, I'd get four cars. he was he was a kid not was

not even not ever because the Venom and to patron I'm not when I

saw when I saw he when I have to get him to get him I think he it's worth

so I said to I said to I said I said I said look so I'm

I'm your service military with your work with with

with force armada and come and Paris, we'll try something. And so

it's that we're so that's the team. Who more who got who got to

some success like, is someone who is the other than the events, or he is the

guy who really really to get of these five originals of the

team? No, and he, so he has one who is a Morgan

Charier, who is the but it was a lot with a lot, not a

man that I formed. but now now it's but now but I formed to zero I'm in

you know what I'm what I'm quite you know because look so I went to the States

I went to work to work in Ukraine because I was to say to say the real

I I wanted I came to I'm sorry I'm because I'm very I

I saw in terms of money I did much I did much in terms

experience, it was a way of and everything. So, but they have to pay the accounts,

so it's difficult, I've got to have in France, me or my qubrade. It's

not a Ukraine, you know, Romandolichet. And Sergei Spivak, in that time,

the car was, there was, there, a little, and I, went to the Vennon,

and I picked this car of zero. And two years, two years and a two years,

the guy is in the car, I'm and I know, and now, he's

He's going to fight with 225 Poirre. Incredible. I don't know what I'd say. And it's not prevised. But I'm very I'm very

gratificant for this because it's to show the work too because in France I was very boycotable when I went

in the France and for cause of Benoit the French know who I'm because I didn't know

I don't know. In Brazil I know, in the States too

because I worked many was very difficult. And now with Benoit is changing, and as well, as well, it's

getting very in France, it's better for me. What do you think of this boycott in France?

I don't know. I think it should be a shame. You know, there's many people that can

between them. I was a professor, coach, there, no, the world. So,

for them, it's, it's, it's, it's not I don't see. Now I'm trying these car like Andersson Silva,

all this, Liotto Machia, Dan Hunter, so, many people got surprised, you know, but just the guys

of the Antigue who knew who was, but the rest, nobody was nobody was, including,

I had a problem with the professor of Gana he, who was a guy that who,

who, who, who, who, who, , who, who,

who, he, who, Lebed in Afrohn's. You did the work with him,

before to get the never many years, but when he came to get in that lot with Capoeira

was a lot that was a capoeira domined him it was a lot of that if the argument

had been been able to be many, he said many people who should have the twas

because the Benoah panio much and how it was the repercussion of this

this was like, it was the first of his first, finally, the moment of his great in the world, and it was not

did so, that it was that he ended up in, he said, when we made this little bit,

I knew that Capoeera was a man very very dark, when I saw, he came to

get a category that he didn't, because the Benoit, he looked in the 77 when

he came he, But the UFC you call, you know, okay, we'll hear. When I said, car, my goodness,

the car is very d'clock. It's very difficult. We're going to try to gain. With certainty, we're going to, but I'm going to a guy, very strong,

very good. In John, we went in the battle. I was very very critical in this because, it's the fact,

I don't jogged a to- even, I never will jogged a to say the fact, the arbitrage

the judge would par the fight, to say the truth, I'm the

minute, the brother, he was in my second, I'm a lot of a problem,

I'm not quite, but I'm not there, with this, it was a lot of very hard,

but he was he got, because everyone saw this this and so

so, so, so, everyone came to everyone came to know what? What kind of?

Ah, of morty, the guys are Maluka. You know, the fans are, they're being too-dozed, I think was criticized, but I don't know

there. I think it's normal, it's emotion, you know, but do what? It's part. It's the type of that one

that's the way, you know, and you say, you know, it's like, the guy that you're the man who's

the other side on the other side on the computer, yeah, have to take care of, you know, have to take

take care of, but he does part to do what? We can do. We can do nothing. For sure, but after this, he,

bough, yeah, grand victories, he got promises, people who gots, people are established, the car's perished,

like Tchao-Mosel. In the last, po, passed the car on the Mett Frevola. You're surprised what the

FC offered us to talk with how it was the process, because the Dats were talking of

talking of Kahn, talking of NITES, and top-P to get a a guy was a guy who's a new in a man who's new in the sport

and I'm surprised to say to say for down a opportunity to a guy that is a guy that is a

thing that many many people never would know, now look at you say the fact, I don't

tell the the fact that I didn't go to the Rier, but nobody said with the Rue

manadja, I don't know didn't know I don't know and the lute was an luciated once

to say a fechada but the people said that was the person said

so I'm so surprised because the Poirier number three the one we thought it was

more for Darius Dan Uca but the Poirier when I saw it we got

we got a we got the I don't we're we're we're right

we're like to we go there to we're there to It's a legend, whatever it's I respect,

me will prepare the car to to bathe It's the classic of the UFC I'm not saying that the parts

are still in exactly They're They're They're They're It's gonna It's

Pernololol It's a Pornier The Rue The word When I When I came out of

The Rue The Spus Dele de He said He said He's He'll He was, I'm going to

I'm happy. Because Benoit, he adored a challenge. To say one way, I don't know what what

what happened. I think the Macachev was to fight the Raphael of the Anjus. The Raphael

of the Anjus who, who said, who didn't know what happened. And the Bonoan

said, he said, I'm, he said, I'm, he'll, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, since the

from the initial, he was like this. He was a he did a lot of a car dour, and encarro that I never

never came in my life and he poor he was a guy he was a coo, Michael Chandler

the Leruker Max Hollow a list interminable and of guys very big he knocked

he did how you think that will be this but you think what is the what is the

secret of Ben No to to win Look, the Secret of Bono, he's more He's more

He has more Fombe He has to know The Poirier There's a many time He's in

Game 34 years I think It's Disgast Not so The Lut but

Other training Also, maybe the motivation Because it's Yeah It's

being a Yeah And the Bona is with But he But he Because

the guy is a Champion The Campeon He has To be He's expert, but he's expert.

But the Benoit, he has a lot of arms. I think the Poirier in the box is better than Benoan in the box, but not amortez because we have

more arms than the Poirier in pen. And in the Westin, too, and Benoit has a strong very strong. It's a

much expert in the show and very effective. It's, but it's a lot difficult. Because it's 25 minutes and for Rarie and

take a gop and not par do that it's a lot we're going to be a lot a guy we're very very much

very well because as I said the category now of 70 kilo you're seeing, the people who's talking

to start to be old just a very time that I'm in because I remember for example

the Charles of Oliverer he's he looked on the medic that was with me a

long time after he he's in the third the last he's in to say

for the people are in the game the B'Nois is new still. But you have to

take care too, you know, the cavalry loco, you know, not to subestimed

right? No, I'll tell you, we never subestim nobody. You never

never when I can't pick anyone, you can't be prepared like the world,

and you you You think that this battle during the round? You think he

can't he's very difficult to say but I'm it's a but I'm

going to be a lot violent that's I can't not know because I don't know

but I can't you say that you will be violent because Bono

is violent and also also also also it's a lot I think

this lot is expected I everyone want to see Bano

Bano on this Nive because now Banoa will get

a the guy, a level very, very, very, very, really,

much, the Rachev, who is the champion of the category, is the

UFC marked the charge of Broncos with the Sauru Kahn, saying that the

vencedor dispute and the we've seen, you've seen a

year, you think, the subannoir, to put, put, a performance incredible

against a kind of a man with a man, he, he could can,

he can fure a the field, directly possible for where I would be able to be? Look, all, all you can't happen, but we're going to be

concerned just in Poirre. What will happen after? We don't, not, not going to make a plan, you know,

because, yeah, there's a pepita in the front, you know, the guy's very so, so we,

don't, we, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't,

we can't what will happen after, we, will, be, will,

be, , , after after you just to finish for you

train a lot of the Anderson as a champion the Rhenes in the

other guys who took titles to get the B in A to zero to the tron,

will have a different, will be a good more special. Oh, because

you pick a car of zero in the category more the F. If you

you put a him and get to get to Centuron, including, I can't

be able to the M. M. A minute after it's a whole. The road is

a lot of when you know in the middle of the middle of so you don't know so,

it's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. A we can't happen to happen. Tomar it

happens because he merits in training Dura. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. A we can

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