MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | A Nova Luta De Claudinha Gadelha

Episode Date: January 19, 2022

Ex-desafiante ao cinturão do UFC, Claudinha Gadelha conversa com o Trocação Franca sobre a decisão de se aposentar do MMA e sua nova missão dentro do UFC: ajudar a nova geração de lutadores a b...rilhar no octógono. Claudinha fala da carreira, a conturbada saída da Nova União, o desejo de enfrentar Joanna Jedrzejczyk em uma luta de jiu-jitsu, e muito mais. O podcast recebe ainda o jornalista Raphael Marinho, que debate a saída da Amanda Nunes da American Top Team e as principais lutas do UFC 270.  O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Former UFC title contender Claudia Gadelha joins Trocação Franca to explain her decision to retire from MMA and her new mission in the UFC: to help the young generation of Brazilian fighters to shine in the octagon. Gadelha discusses her career, the controversial departure from Nova Uniao, her desire to once again face Joanna Jedrzejczyk — this time in grappling —, and much more. MMA reporter Raphael Marinho joins the program to weigh in on his report of Amanda Nunes parting ways with American Top Team and what to expect from UFC 270 title bouts. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, Lominole, fan of Luda,
Starting point is 00:00:37 welcome to the 20th episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a sua house of MMA in this immense pool of sphere. I'm going to Chris, correspondent of the site American on MMIFIRE in the Brazil, and I'm going to work on the part of the company of Claudina Gadella,
Starting point is 00:00:49 who will talk about about the decision to be a new car that's seen in the UFC. But before to talk to
Starting point is 00:00:55 we'll bat with a pap with Rafael Marino, journalist of Gobatte.com that, like always
Starting point is 00:00:59 the newbushes with the world of the MMA. All right, my friend, to be here with you.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Asa, it's a same, it's a major the same, because we're trying to try to
Starting point is 00:01:09 try to find that the time. Not more the man brought the great bomb
Starting point is 00:01:15 of the same of the UFC 270, a week an important for the destines of the peso Pes
Starting point is 00:01:21 on the FECA, the Peso Mosca also, but that was being fused at the reason in the Brazil
Starting point is 00:01:26 for in course, with the new thing you took this time oncom of Amanda Nunes and she's
Starting point is 00:01:32 making the T.T. She was in the team since 2014, was there was there
Starting point is 00:01:37 gave a levant in career, she turned Campion Pekal and then the champion
Starting point is 00:01:43 Pesu Pekin and apparently not there your house, I'd like you want to tell us this story
Starting point is 00:01:48 for who came to get a caro of a cavern and not know that Amanda Nunes left her
Starting point is 00:01:55 yeah, it was, it was that she really took this decision to say, to say I
Starting point is 00:02:02 don't me I'm in 2014, not had never had never a lot since she
Starting point is 00:02:07 passed to train there, and after after Joanna Panh,
Starting point is 00:02:10 it was the only the she was the last she she went to
Starting point is 00:02:15 surprise, I a connection of a person that has some proximity with her me talking there's a bomb
Starting point is 00:02:24 for you a manna Nunes out of the TT's to mount the team of her can talk with other
Starting point is 00:02:34 people I went after of other people the people said it was a car was a project
Starting point is 00:02:41 an old an project an old the project that she has this idea and really she took this decision
Starting point is 00:02:48 but, like I'm with a sensation of being a issue even little dedicated
Starting point is 00:02:55 for the people involved from the ATT because all of those
Starting point is 00:03:00 some some some didn't say those who were
Starting point is 00:03:06 really really really really so for God not
Starting point is 00:03:10 let's know I'm it's all too to turn to the team of her,
Starting point is 00:03:16 was the decision of her, not train more with the time, the doors are open
Starting point is 00:03:20 but she not train more with the time. So I feel all everyone even
Starting point is 00:03:24 really with a bit to say to say, the Amanda, we don't get a
Starting point is 00:03:30 lotator difficult, we've got a lottero too, so the information
Starting point is 00:03:36 was that also me picked to surprise but really Amanda Nunn
Starting point is 00:03:40 will come with other people in the corner in your I did the news, I'd go
Starting point is 00:03:47 to try and trymation, I'd send a million of trainers, looters, the people there's the same thing, all the foot at last a little,
Starting point is 00:03:55 a little, to, I don't see, to comment this situation, everyone, various people said, no, I'm not I'm not,
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm saying, I, I confirmed with a font, this information too, that she had had said to
Starting point is 00:04:09 have been a academy property and all, and all right, and it's a project old, exactly as you said, but the
Starting point is 00:04:16 great majority respond, no, I don't know, I'm not I'm going to say, po, how is Amanda Munis, championed of the FCC, who's at ATT for seven years,
Starting point is 00:04:25 say the team, and nobody's saying, I, I feel, I'm, a thing, a lot of, a lot of a foot around,
Starting point is 00:04:32 to comment about, but this mess with the future in the FCN, because she, because she had been
Starting point is 00:04:39 one of the symptoms that she had in a a derota very surprising. Until
Starting point is 00:04:43 today she did any a declaration commenting the derota she said that's going to do
Starting point is 00:04:48 go back up to see what but he didn't say what what happened to do
Starting point is 00:04:53 what she did what did wrong that she had a thing was something
Starting point is 00:04:59 we're just we just we accumuling the things the things that
Starting point is 00:05:03 she has has to have to talk to the derota
Starting point is 00:05:07 of her what happened and now the decision that
Starting point is 00:05:10 motivated her in this moment one a month after to have she's
Starting point is 00:05:15 she's she decided to make the T T T T yeah it's
Starting point is 00:05:20 it's curious it can many people see a seeing
Starting point is 00:05:24 a Mamm after she after she after the first of her and now
Starting point is 00:05:30 when suffered the first at T came I'm I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:35 not I'm not be alarmista as I've heard many people
Starting point is 00:05:39 in the social saying, oh, now the ladder to be a badger and it's
Starting point is 00:05:44 doing a thing, we're doing this, we're not, we're not have been just a coincidence, the people
Starting point is 00:05:48 that were a project old of her, it was a thought of a new, that's a new thing
Starting point is 00:05:54 has been the impression that I took, the few who wanted to talk, conversate
Starting point is 00:06:00 about the question in off, was that not was a surprise so great, they knew
Starting point is 00:06:07 that this could could be happen. This camp had been a camp complicated
Starting point is 00:06:11 for her after the COVID that she had. And other things, but it was a surprise
Starting point is 00:06:18 so big and, we're, we're some examples of people of people who abandoned
Starting point is 00:06:25 a team and were the chief of your team and didn't do it were no-taro,
Starting point is 00:06:32 Shogun, were situations that the career no cameo, no same level
Starting point is 00:06:36 of when they were of a team that not there's. But we have the case of Glover Techeera, turning the champion, training there for quite the proper with the people of his.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So, like, it's a very a exercise just of futureology, to say that's right, we have to be able to have to be what will be
Starting point is 00:06:57 the next pass of her, if she really will open an academy, or if she will train in some space
Starting point is 00:07:05 with people that she will contract. detail even, no, there's there's a
Starting point is 00:07:11 team of her, but what are the team of her? We don't have a lot of just the Amanda will be able to
Starting point is 00:07:16 talk about anything. Any other anything that we crave here with the future of her,
Starting point is 00:07:20 it's a responsibility to us. For me, the great question that it's, how is
Starting point is 00:07:27 the camp Amanda Nunes to the Luta against Julina Pene, because
Starting point is 00:07:30 she has money to open your own own their own their own
Starting point is 00:07:33 their own their , sparrings, but in the ATT is one of the main of the world, she's not
Starting point is 00:07:40 the world, she was a very well, I was very well with a carla Harrison, trainable with a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:46 people, in the day-a-day, for the trainers, I'm, I'm going to the company, sparring, how is it
Starting point is 00:07:52 will be in the academy proper? How is, with who she will be to do you to do
Starting point is 00:07:57 a lot to do you want to a juliana penna, yeah. This, so the
Starting point is 00:08:01 next step immediate, not, for the other the the other than she will continue to be the first of the
Starting point is 00:08:10 door that's open for a lot of a harrison now that's not, they're not, they're not, they're not going to be the kind of way to make this lot of the people there, no, well, I, car, I think, I'm the same curiosities, it's very difficult to know, I think, so when
Starting point is 00:08:28 Amanda resolves to pronounce a respect to, to have more idea of what is this project of that we have, the fact that she really has actually from the T.T. That's a
Starting point is 00:08:39 academy gigantesque with material human. Oh, in great quantity. But all
Starting point is 00:08:47 now is a very incert. With relation the other with the Rheelson, I don't see if
Starting point is 00:08:54 a new thing in the scenario because I don't see the the fact of them
Starting point is 00:08:58 in the academy as a piece. The two were being as a possibility
Starting point is 00:09:03 to be in front to even being the T.T. So I think the question is the UFC want to
Starting point is 00:09:10 be able to doce to make the contractation and to happen to happen to happen
Starting point is 00:09:16 and it not good because Amanda has to make a revanche immediate
Starting point is 00:09:21 with a Juliana PEN and I think that it's the really
Starting point is 00:09:23 that she really so the time today is the the best
Starting point is 00:09:28 for this so I don't have this and just to finish with a quaylor else. You think, Amanda does a revanch, we'll put a kiloison
Starting point is 00:09:37 to confront a other, and then it's a little, but, but, today, it's all too uncertain for us to grab up something.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I mean, I don't even a petit more for this battle, it would be a lot of an life, but the
Starting point is 00:09:53 Amanda had been given, for more that had been and pass the car in Julianna Penha, you,
Starting point is 00:09:57 she, she, invincible and that she had had been a career before, but the sequence
Starting point is 00:10:07 of the story of her was absurd so it and create this curiosity of the fans of the
Starting point is 00:10:15 like how would be a election invictra big-campion Olympic and now she got to
Starting point is 00:10:20 go back the month and she'd get to get to all yeah
Starting point is 00:10:23 but the memory is too fresh even we know she was she
Starting point is 00:10:28 taking a suffol in pay and being finalized so I think it's a little
Starting point is 00:10:32 this battle, I think to happen this year, I think, not it's not a
Starting point is 00:10:36 not quite not I'm not not quite not quite I'm not thinking about you know, this happens
Starting point is 00:10:43 with all the champion dominant that can't get the sequence of victory
Starting point is 00:10:48 you've seen this has seen other times it's it's never
Starting point is 00:10:53 not not get more that's there's when the person was a very time
Starting point is 00:10:58 there no top but I agree with you, I think it's for there's just those are the next few
Starting point is 00:11:04 the next few the next few the next few about the next we're going to get a lot of to be a lot of publicly
Starting point is 00:11:10 and we'll see when she will take the decision to talk about the idea of the Lutta against Julianna Pemann
Starting point is 00:11:16 and so we focus on this Saturday we have a night, a night a night important for Brazil especially
Starting point is 00:11:25 with Davidson Figueroero doing the trilogy with Brandon Morano trying to get finally the
Starting point is 00:11:32 first time the first time he was in a finalized and now a new Davidson physically he looks another person
Starting point is 00:11:38 now, he's got a animal rasgated after the camp with Cerrudo there in Arizona what you
Starting point is 00:11:45 have you have been to this look for this I'm so much he's got about
Starting point is 00:11:50 after after after he after he nevermulied in the company of Sehudo not a
Starting point is 00:11:56 user fantastic the Eric Al Baracin a excellent trainer also that this moved in comparison
Starting point is 00:12:01 to the Davidson that was he had a guy who had a academy proper in the city of his he leader
Starting point is 00:12:06 the band and now he was, he was, to receive order, be trained for a head coach,
Starting point is 00:12:13 right? I'm, I'm doing a matter a matter. The air of combat, was there in
Starting point is 00:12:19 Arizona, conversar with Davis, with the team, was on the week now in
Starting point is 00:12:23 sports spectacular and they were, they were really in this second
Starting point is 00:12:28 of the the fight against Brandon Moreno, the Davidson, passed a lot of time, having to resolve problems of the academy that he was abriding there, and that's, it was a so conturbada as it seems to he had to this battle. And in the
Starting point is 00:12:58 first of the Davidson had a good for the President Morano. The normal was he'd
Starting point is 00:13:04 have been seen he'd have been a point for a goal but he was superior
Starting point is 00:13:07 in the fight. Not was that punition that could even have
Starting point is 00:13:13 had not not but also I don't not not
Starting point is 00:13:16 but it would the other would be the other was I'm still, a Davidson,
Starting point is 00:13:25 no minimum, equilibrating the actions with with Brenno Moreno. I think it's a good. The Brandon is a guy
Starting point is 00:13:31 really good that capitalizes always that has a chance. So, you can't vacillar because if you vacillard,
Starting point is 00:13:36 he will resolve the fight there, but the Davidson bat forth. If the Davidson, he could
Starting point is 00:13:42 work to the level of performance that he had been in the first he did
Starting point is 00:13:46 a camp that led to believe to think that the the actuation will be better of this
Starting point is 00:13:51 way and I think he can't recuperate this centuron. It's a card very good,
Starting point is 00:13:57 we're not, we're going to have the duel later of Brazilian of Rodor Vierreer and
Starting point is 00:14:00 the Veyererer and the firstriante Andrea Fialo substitute on the time of the Sarii
Starting point is 00:14:07 have been in front of Victor Henry a lot of that's to have happened before got to be
Starting point is 00:14:13 a great the cereejo the bolo and the unification of the centurion of the
Starting point is 00:14:19 Sir Guy, ex-companieres of training, a lot that has very curiosity for this story of their, of their own time, in France, and he got inborned, bollado with FC, to have created a centron
Starting point is 00:14:31 interion, without a minimum necessity, but the other guy, he was the director of the European,
Starting point is 00:14:37 what you're going to do that this, this war of pes and peses people? I think this lot,
Starting point is 00:14:43 it's a lot very difficult even to say who can be win. Because the
Starting point is 00:14:49 man he has the potency he's the he's the more strong, he could end up a lot
Starting point is 00:14:53 at any moment, maybe he a guy with a man more than I have been in the
Starting point is 00:14:59 MMA. It's impressive that he is able to do do it. And not
Starting point is 00:15:03 that he is technically ruin not, he not would be a champion
Starting point is 00:15:07 if he was technically wrong so I think he was a guy more
Starting point is 00:15:11 talentos in the procaation that's more artifices for a
Starting point is 00:15:16 the other than the other than the other long. So I think if the other to stander, I see a vantage for Ganyi, but the Ingunu can't end up at any moment. He's a guy that, when he acerter the goal, he doesn't even get so in-shea
Starting point is 00:15:29 that he's able to knockoutier. This is the type of that if it was in a other division or if it was in a piece of levy, the favoritism would be absolutely of the Cil andan, because the guy, he is much more technical and,
Starting point is 00:15:40 but as, but as the factor, that encost and you, you, you can't the cabalota no pescar to he can
Starting point is 00:15:47 be taken a suffolk and he can't be a knockoutier he could for example as a
Starting point is 00:15:52 guy's he put in he parted to come up and he's going to a million
Starting point is 00:15:57 of and errant all but one one entered and the he needs
Starting point is 00:16:03 he needs a he he will pass this this but he
Starting point is 00:16:07 will pass this the fight can come the first second
Starting point is 00:16:11 but he also can can also can't resolve. So it's a lot that's a lot that
Starting point is 00:16:16 it's a lot that's I don't know to be able to me deceptionate because I think it will have a climate of tension there until the end. I think that's the point most important, the factor emotional because it's just, ah, they've divulgated a video of training
Starting point is 00:16:32 here, because it shows the Syrian gunn, if you're doing the better, when I got in the train and so, the Eganu negate, it's that, ah, no, it's it, oh, no, it's been edited, a lot, but the
Starting point is 00:16:43 two know. If, if, if, the fact, the Sir Guy he'd get him about him
Starting point is 00:16:47 about him he's over he's over the time, and the Sigone's about this. So, how
Starting point is 00:16:51 this will affect, or the oposte, if the Inganu was better than the time in the hour of
Starting point is 00:16:57 the lute, the we don't know, but the two know what the two story,
Starting point is 00:17:04 that the lot do you think he doesn't comeent, not he doesn't not he
Starting point is 00:17:08 doesn't, but he's they know, he's and, I think because the proper
Starting point is 00:17:13 the little will bring components emotional new to the end of
Starting point is 00:17:17 the enganu can be frustrated if you don't get a knockout
Starting point is 00:17:21 rapid. The Gannin in some moment can be anxious because
Starting point is 00:17:24 the poor, he is a guy can't a man
Starting point is 00:17:28 so I know, I know, I'm not can't cost to he can get a
Starting point is 00:17:34 or not a centurion also, can be also maybe so it It's a lot that has much detail
Starting point is 00:17:40 that can resolve to one side or another. It's really, I really. I'd like to thank you a great time for the company more one of the podcast. I'm going to call the interview with a call on the Jada,
Starting point is 00:17:49 but I wanted to make a want to do you do your jabber where the people can't you can't be on the social, to be able to be in first-mown what happens in the world of the lute.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Poe, I'm a pleasure to be here talking with a friend with a friend. We're talking to talk to a day yeah, but it's always
Starting point is 00:18:07 and good to talk with a man. Carta, Carta, Raffa Marino with PHA, Instagram, Rafa Marino
Starting point is 00:18:14 also with PHA. And it's it a pleasure to talk with you. And a honor is all my now,
Starting point is 00:18:22 the interview with the Chalda after the after the time of the last the line
Starting point is 00:18:35 we have the ex-desafient to Cthorone of Caudina H. Be welcome the podcast.
Starting point is 00:18:41 All right all. Good. Good. Thank you. How's it? All all the time
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'd like to this bat-papa with a little before we're going to start the interview I'm going to go ahead of
Starting point is 00:18:53 you to make a time to be exactly from from November of 2018, a lot of time before you were back to
Starting point is 00:19:01 you're not never roll out with you just rollable during media from the FCA how many times you
Starting point is 00:19:06 think you to take the phone in the time you blocker the WhatsApp so you
Starting point is 00:19:09 told me you'd tell you you were to make a In fact, I think I'm in a time, I'm trying to maybe to evite a lot
Starting point is 00:19:19 because I, like, I'm going to, Guilera, I, I was, I was, I was creontage, that was, that story of creontage, I, I'd, say from Brazil, I'd, say, from your academy, and train in other places, yeah? So, like, when I was from, I was very taxed
Starting point is 00:19:37 of creont, the people were talking very much more of me, when, in the fact, I was I'd say from the Brazil in a buska in my career, in a sport,
Starting point is 00:19:46 so I'm I'm not, I'm not reporting in Brazil, I'm getting the guy all of the kind of,
Starting point is 00:19:53 I didn't talk to people, because I, I'd be able about what I had made, about my decision,
Starting point is 00:19:59 to have to have a New Union, to be from Brazil, and, my, it was,
Starting point is 00:20:04 it was, today, it's normal, no, all the people are going to train in the
Starting point is 00:20:08 United, doing, New, via the world to learn more about the world to learn about
Starting point is 00:20:12 but I'm one of the first who suffered that idea of the crevance ah, it's right
Starting point is 00:20:17 and it was very very good for me this, it's not so I evite everyone
Starting point is 00:20:23 evite you, Ivite you ever general. You would you thought that the form
Starting point is 00:20:28 that the press Brazilian you'd could be in this theme insisting
Starting point is 00:20:31 maybe in talking about about about when you did when you
Starting point is 00:20:36 the vehicle Brazilian the fans of the fans of you access to what you said you'd have in the media social,
Starting point is 00:20:42 you'd irritate, you'd, get to get, I think it's the repercussion, because the people, the guys,
Starting point is 00:20:48 like, the fans not, not were very educated even, in relation to the why
Starting point is 00:20:55 that a academy, will train in another academy, or because out of the country,
Starting point is 00:21:00 we're trying in other country, we're, we're trying people, you're looking in your
Starting point is 00:21:05 career, now, now, the people, the people, the people, the people don't
Starting point is 00:21:08 understand. So, all, all I'd I'd, it'd be a motive of, ah, it's creont, ah, abandoneded the people that were the time of the entire,
Starting point is 00:21:16 the entire, when, in the fact, I was just looking evolution, so, I think the the guy was massacro much in this epoch. And today,
Starting point is 00:21:25 I feel that's a little inverse, when the guy, he comes to a little of success in a M.A. In an out-nive, when a guy
Starting point is 00:21:32 train in Brazil, go to F.C., vense two, the top of the fans, the papes, people, why you don't
Starting point is 00:21:36 go to the U.S. to America to train, There's this cobrances that, that's been seen as a tradition, a creontage,
Starting point is 00:21:42 today, the fans cobron the athletes of this too. Yeah, exactly. The guy, the guy
Starting point is 00:21:48 was, the family, the same, the same, the same day, say, oh, let's trainer,
Starting point is 00:21:56 there in the United with Fulano, I think this will aggra a lot, and the people,
Starting point is 00:22:00 understand, the sport evolved, we've been in our age, we're in the other era. to be able to the academy,
Starting point is 00:22:11 out of the country, to grow, like any other other thing in the life. And, but when I did it,
Starting point is 00:22:19 it was a creontage total, total, total. Inclusive, I've got really that was creotage before,
Starting point is 00:22:27 before I did I say from the New Union, I was kind of lavared my mind with
Starting point is 00:22:32 this idea of that, you know, ah, I, say, oh, it's,
Starting point is 00:22:36 can't try it, who was with you from you've got to in a team, in a school studying, a art martial, and then,
Starting point is 00:22:43 you know, after a time you want to learn other things that are taught and you go to other school.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You can see this way. I think it's a much less less level, but I suffered so much in this
Starting point is 00:22:53 era, the preconceit, the idea of a creonche that the proper Jessica Batistaca when I
Starting point is 00:22:59 looked with her in Japan after after the after the after the last she
Starting point is 00:23:04 said she said she was a Brazilian, because I had been been to live in the States United, like if to be more in the States of if it would have been my nationality.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But she said this, before the Luda, and after the Luda, she said, she said, like, in the hour of the interview, she said, I don't need to go to Brazil to get recourse to
Starting point is 00:23:22 get to anybody. This is the prova of this, she has been given to me. She said, and today I'm living in the States of the United, so, I'm not
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'm talking the bad, but it's the idea that's the idea that moved, the people are more educas in relation
Starting point is 00:23:36 the evolution of sport that's a new year and the people understand in other way everything is the
Starting point is 00:23:44 things are understanding in a form better than you're in Las Vegas now? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:49 we're in Vegas You're supposed to be with her Is it is a real estate? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:54 tranquill, the boa I'm like, I see my adversaries like people
Starting point is 00:23:58 people who me helped to evolve to live You know, all camp of a lot of a lot of evolution
Starting point is 00:24:05 immense in the life of any of the world, especially a lot of who knows what is the person who is doing what is doing, so the main
Starting point is 00:24:12 my great adversaries me disaffirons to me to make a person better, a person a better, I always say,
Starting point is 00:24:18 my objective of life is this, is evolving at every day and these people did this with me and today,
Starting point is 00:24:25 with the my position in the office with the things that I'm to do you do with the athletes today, in the FC,
Starting point is 00:24:34 like, all that I constructed, knowing these people, being a different for these people,
Starting point is 00:24:40 made to me would be who to assume this position, with all the experience, with all the challenges that I
Starting point is 00:24:46 passed in my life to get to get to the so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:24:51 all right different, various teams different, various teams from the New York, the
Starting point is 00:24:56 did you know, the Jackson, when John was with a in Las Vegas a time, what's the
Starting point is 00:25:02 best academy that you, the world, the world of the world, the world, where you think you
Starting point is 00:25:08 have your your own, where you felt you have you more with a athlete. Well,
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'm going to you say a thing, I'm going to you, I did, for have made,
Starting point is 00:25:18 all these great transitions in my life, I'm from a new union, to go to
Starting point is 00:25:23 go to the new Mexico, trying to the new Mexico, trying, and all these in the moment that I was
Starting point is 00:25:31 doing, they were prejudiccarum because it was like, I'm learning a job, I'm learning a new techniques,
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm learning a new theory of training, then I go there, I'm implement everything I learned the octogono,
Starting point is 00:25:44 and then then I'm there, do all right, do this, like, do you, I confess
Starting point is 00:25:51 that me prejudicor, for some because I didn't have time sufficient to continue in a
Starting point is 00:25:57 game like I I've I've in the New Union, but also it's
Starting point is 00:26:02 a reason for I understand that there's a formula perfect for you get ready to
Starting point is 00:26:10 the fight. The fact, the people have to understand that it has to be
Starting point is 00:26:14 about the person, it's about my, about the athlete, Claudia, I have to have people
Starting point is 00:26:19 on my side who are disposed to be able to be people on my people,
Starting point is 00:26:23 who are people, who are people, who are are have people who are really preoccupied with me
Starting point is 00:26:31 to enter, to me, to enter, the rest is the most important. The rest we mold, the rest we try, this we're doing, these great mudances,
Starting point is 00:26:43 they make it but competing on the high-nive when the time is very short between one a lot and other, they're just
Starting point is 00:26:50 they're quite so, so, today, I have this experience total of having this,
Starting point is 00:26:58 to pass to the people that are entering, I'm assuming a position in the UFC, I'm assuming the directoria of
Starting point is 00:27:04 development of new talents, and I'm going to be helping to help the people, how to develop finances,
Starting point is 00:27:12 develop a lot of things that various lulators are people are people are so I'm very happy with this position
Starting point is 00:27:20 that the position that the family did to assume this responsibility and they know, like,
Starting point is 00:27:27 all that I I passed to be to where I were, and these experiences were what I
Starting point is 00:27:34 brought me was what I'm brought a academy so, I don't I can't I can't
Starting point is 00:27:41 say I'm not I'm talking I'm many benefits, there's many things
Starting point is 00:27:47 good and various things bad, there's we have to know with who
Starting point is 00:27:51 are, to try the better the things, evidences, evidences, and
Starting point is 00:27:56 it was that I I learned in the middle of my career. And I evolved more in my career in the time that I was with people
Starting point is 00:28:03 that were there were there in the time entire the time entire. The carchorran was a guy who was a man
Starting point is 00:28:11 talking about always always to be able to help. The Chris Luttrell also in New Mexico, there was a
Starting point is 00:28:17 guy that was like he was like I'm like I'm the time that I most evolved in the times that I had been
Starting point is 00:28:24 people in my side, Cudaning me, representing me, and me, and showing to me, that they were there to be,
Starting point is 00:28:29 in the way, in the way after your life post-lut now, in this new cargo, NFC, is this
Starting point is 00:28:38 racha of the new Union, the way to how it's the relationship with Jair, there's a relation
Starting point is 00:28:43 today, or no, no, not, no, no, no, so,
Starting point is 00:28:47 how is the aspect of the relationship? The relationship, I'm, like, I'm, like,
Starting point is 00:28:51 so I'm, so, so, so, Nothing was made for favor. Like, like,
Starting point is 00:28:58 BEDA never made a favor of me to be trained. Like, Ja-I never made
Starting point is 00:29:03 the favor to me train and we had a real real professional. The Jai was my
Starting point is 00:29:07 pauson there, between the 18, 18 years, with 18 years, I went to
Starting point is 00:29:11 live in a academy, learning with Marlon, with Waldo, with a baron, with me
Starting point is 00:29:19 with that that was massive, I'm mass, I'm mad that time that
Starting point is 00:29:22 my life. So, But when I, when I I came from the new union, it was that idea of creontage that I was going to
Starting point is 00:29:30 the team and I never never ever that was going to be a decision my, it was a decision of the DEDE.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He thought that what I was trying to do in the next few years my career not were not would be
Starting point is 00:29:47 good for the team, so he he didn't, not me gave the idea, he said, go there and
Starting point is 00:29:53 do the things you want to do out of here. It was when I went to move to the States United.
Starting point is 00:29:57 But it's a way different to say that you were expulsed, right? Yeah, he said, go there and
Starting point is 00:30:04 do you go there and do the things that I wanted to do the things that I was thinking that the trainingment was getting
Starting point is 00:30:11 much, I think the era of the MMA moved, the sport moved, the sport evolved, and the
Starting point is 00:30:19 we got in that idea there had to I was just saying in a porrara, just doing a pancada in the body, making some training
Starting point is 00:30:27 of preparation physical of two, three hours. When I went to with a year, I did a camp 17, seven, like,
Starting point is 00:30:33 the week, was the same time entire, I just went to because I had 20-pocus years. If I was,
Starting point is 00:30:38 so, I'd be able to get to get a lot of for all the everything I learned there,
Starting point is 00:30:46 not so, of technique, but also of the talent, to be developing, to have seen, the fall of the people
Starting point is 00:30:54 that also, I learned much with the errors of the people that I convivy, with the accesses of the people that I convivy,
Starting point is 00:31:01 seeing the album in the archer of the career, I'm doing W.C. and then the air of the F.C., this was an great-in-a-ann
Starting point is 00:31:09 in my career, but what what it's to feel for me for all the people did for me, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:18 for all I learned, I like I say I do I always always we always say I feel we say I say I feel I say I respect he's too
Starting point is 00:31:27 my respect my master and I know what happened there was did much part of the idea of the creontage
Starting point is 00:31:38 that culture that existed in the that was just me rest to be grata for all talking about
Starting point is 00:31:46 about the next part of your career you will let's make the lute but the Luda, not
Starting point is 00:31:50 let's go, not going to continue working with an other cargo, working on a lot of a lot of, like a gestal of
Starting point is 00:31:56 what exactly you're going exactly you're doing the F.C.? Yeah, I have a description of my
Starting point is 00:32:04 work is a full of gigantic, you know? I have a lot of things to do, but I got a
Starting point is 00:32:10 really, I pegey a idea to help the idea of the time, like, when we're
Starting point is 00:32:16 doing the country, we talked about the things that I could do. And this idea, like, I gave the idea, I said, I said, I believe that I
Starting point is 00:32:26 can sum up much in the FC Brazil. I want to help the guy in Brazil. So I, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, battening on a martello in relation to this. So, in the description of my position, I'm assuming a directoria of development of new talents. So, I'm, like, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:32:43 work with various talents. But I want, I really, me to force, the same the same that I mean
Starting point is 00:32:49 as far to help the people to do you to do and to understand various things in
Starting point is 00:32:57 sports, that don't be quite clear, to understand how use the the UFC
Starting point is 00:33:02 to our not against I think, I think a lot in this idea that the event is
Starting point is 00:33:08 that's kind of a panelin when in when in the event that you want to
Starting point is 00:33:12 you can't that you want to be in mission to, like, to, like, to help the people, to help, the people, I'm going to be present in the events and always there,
Starting point is 00:33:21 and everyone needs. I have other, other things to do, too, I'm going to, you're going to be the ambassador of the Institute of Performance, the FCC, to show for the Brazilians how to use the
Starting point is 00:33:36 institute, how to use the professionals, the institute, and I'll be always there to them. I will be working on the program of the health and well-stah
Starting point is 00:33:47 of the functionaries of the FC also, to help the people to make in shape,
Starting point is 00:33:54 mount to many, various programs for that the people can make a jitio,
Starting point is 00:34:00 can't do make a box, for that the people that are that the people
Starting point is 00:34:04 that are that I have been there's a much thing to do I'm really to
Starting point is 00:34:10 focus in the idea of the Jogar all my energy in the Brazilians and develop even
Starting point is 00:34:17 more sports in Brazil, to bring a PIA to Brazil, a day, I have, I'm the great objectives
Starting point is 00:34:23 in the company, and, like, with a lot of, we'll get a lot of, we'll get,
Starting point is 00:34:29 much a thing, there's a person who do you know, I think the does the person,
Starting point is 00:34:36 he's, I think, the guy, he's, he's, he doesn't, in this your program
Starting point is 00:34:40 of the program of Dana's da inform, exactly. Like, my, I think if you are preparator physical, you have to be in shape to train your client to be to stay in shape
Starting point is 00:34:54 also. If you are trainer of the lute, you have to know to do you know, if you are a medic of sport, you have to do what you,
Starting point is 00:35:04 that's, those styles of life that you ensign to your patient, for your client, you have to live. And the Dana live this,
Starting point is 00:35:10 yeah. The Dana is there in the middle of the lot and he's there's a fort-and-o, with 50-thong, fort-and-o, and I think the guy of the F.C. have to do the same thing, to develop, like, train, understand about the sport, that's a lot of the athletes.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And the sport un-un-pussosos, so I think that's very cool. The Chathri, the owner of the One Championship, showed a postage, in a reality, suggested in a lot between him and the Dan White. So you, you'd be in the corner of the
Starting point is 00:35:37 United, and I think the Dano-Wat. I'd like the war in the war. With, with a Coney of the Patroner, and he's both box too,
Starting point is 00:35:44 down in three no box in the old in the old he's not physically, would be in the corner
Starting point is 00:35:48 of his and he would be a lot. You think that a FCPI would be
Starting point is 00:35:53 a certain mentality of a mentality of create ontage? I think I think
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think I think the first that the question was you know was you think you
Starting point is 00:36:05 would be a BIA in Brazil? I said yes definitely Because with the talents that we have
Starting point is 00:36:11 in Brazil, with the force of the of the want of the talent that we have in the talent we have in Brazil, if we have a part technique, the part psychologic, the part professional,
Starting point is 00:36:24 I have certain that the postura of the athletes of the UFC, the athletes Brazilian, the athletes Brazilian, will move, very, very,
Starting point is 00:36:35 much, much, because it's like, refiner there, what we have of very good, it's like, like, do a physiotherapy, a medic
Starting point is 00:36:43 of the sport, a supplement, a psychologist, for an athlete that's not that's a or that has to get to get a
Starting point is 00:36:54 money, with all this to do this to the athlete, that's got to that's there being, that's there
Starting point is 00:37:03 being, to be a lot of the life, to move the life of the family, I have a chance
Starting point is 00:37:07 we're will have more results with this is my objective in the UFC,
Starting point is 00:37:12 Brazil, I want to try to move this, I'm doing, like, we're not, the athlete
Starting point is 00:37:18 Brazilian, the athlete in the FCC not there, there's helping the other, I want to
Starting point is 00:37:24 the athletes are the people are to be able to be and this is my objective
Starting point is 00:37:29 in the company. To be have this cargo, it, you know, you'll be
Starting point is 00:37:35 the, you will have, you will have the condition financial, guaranteed, a job, a job,
Starting point is 00:37:38 a worker, so can't when a lot of the other, so can't be a little bit there's been, imagine that could have been
Starting point is 00:37:46 a pornozine that maybe should be able to be able to get some to be able to you say a thing,
Starting point is 00:37:52 like, I always I always tried much to learn with the error of the others,
Starting point is 00:37:56 you know, not just in the part physical, but in the part mental, in the part financial,
Starting point is 00:38:05 I always tried much to learn with the and I tried to study about what could happen in my life or not. So, like, for example, the Ronaldin, of football, when he
Starting point is 00:38:18 he started to look, engorded for a caram. That was, for me, was a when he started to, when he started to, when he started to go to, when he was going to gore for a car. That was there was a mirror to me that I never could have to move my style of life,
Starting point is 00:38:31 in the luta, because I never could be out of that way. I had, I, yes, that I used all the sabedoria, all the, all, everything I learned in form the rest,
Starting point is 00:38:41 the rest of the rest of my life, because I believe that the professional, any other anything that he decides to do
Starting point is 00:38:48 do that need, needs to perform on a level more high. To perform a level more a level more, we have to
Starting point is 00:38:52 be a physical good, with a good, with all, so I'm, so I've always very good with this.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I saw a much a loter, I was, and putting the gran of the and living with the gran of the lot,
Starting point is 00:39:06 and had to have to live with the money to live with the money of the I always presteed much in this, and I always
Starting point is 00:39:13 I've always I've used to get my gran'n I started my granin there, I invest in my career and
Starting point is 00:39:20 in my future. So, I came in a point of investment in various things that I didn't need
Starting point is 00:39:29 more of the LUT to to live. I'm I'm in this point, a year
Starting point is 00:39:34 some years in my career so the kind of the lot was being different, I'm doing
Starting point is 00:39:38 and a part of the moment that it was not more I said not more and what I
Starting point is 00:39:44 will do do you do you I'm going to I'm in I'm not I'm not I'm
Starting point is 00:39:51 like I'm I'm working on FEC me my security financially to I don't,
Starting point is 00:39:57 no. It's nothing I have my life all right and I'm my investments
Starting point is 00:40:05 various things that I do I do a few years a year and the the grant that I will gain
Starting point is 00:40:13 in the UFC now as I'm working as a work for I'm going to invests more in my
Starting point is 00:40:20 future, in the future of my family and the things that will happen
Starting point is 00:40:23 that my life back to you know you're a social, talking about what you
Starting point is 00:40:29 were the pain in the thoughts in the thoughts, the goals accumulated on the course, in what you
Starting point is 00:40:36 decided, po, cheever, no, it's not more my life, this is a hardable, to start a
Starting point is 00:40:41 problem, with the future, to know, how it's, how it's, you're going to be you,
Starting point is 00:40:45 about, you, in what you know, and thought, you know, don't do more to me? This
Starting point is 00:40:50 not, not what I'm what I'm a whole things, not, not was just the conclusion,
Starting point is 00:40:54 not was, I was not in specific, I've been seeing this a time I've been feeling the want to to stop a while
Starting point is 00:41:05 I was trying more performing as I wanted in a can't be able to be playing in everyone and I would get in
Starting point is 00:41:12 the other I was getting frustrated with some frustrated with some things I was doing things
Starting point is 00:41:21 that not more me just being feeling I think if if you not if you don't if you're not
Starting point is 00:41:26 if you're happy with what you're doing, you don't have to do. So, the conclusion, it came to like, it was a motive for I'm a little, because I entered into this rhythm of competition,
Starting point is 00:41:41 for the time of competition, and not parable, and was always training to fight, I would, put, pass a lot, and I'd, passable a luta, and I'd, and I'd be what was happening to my life, what I was doing, the motive, for what I was doing, and I decided to stop a little, when I had
Starting point is 00:41:57 the concussion, I don't not, I don't train. So, it came, there's that may for the
Starting point is 00:42:03 bad, and this was a mal that came to be to the same, because I started
Starting point is 00:42:08 to observe various things that were going to my life, and I had other opportunities
Starting point is 00:42:15 of the other things to do you, I had other was very serious, because I had a post-concussion
Starting point is 00:42:23 syndrome, a syndrome post-concursion. The symptoms of the concussion, the dose, nausea, fomit,
Starting point is 00:42:31 the barolino in the oregon, the ovation, the whole time entire, the noise, the world, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:40 many things you're not, you get very emotional, you know, you can't be a lot, you can't
Starting point is 00:42:45 be a lot, that you're all right, so-and- I was so-sion when I took, some days
Starting point is 00:42:52 after my life, my life, the I started to see the symptoms. And then I called my medic to the sport, and he said, Claudine, you're talking to a concussion.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I said, no, not possible. Like, how so? I don't take a pancada fast in the head. But the concussion, it could be, it can happen, also, for various pancadins in the head, in the long of the career
Starting point is 00:43:12 and things of this type. A we don't have not yet to know how a lotator of a lottower who took a lotcada in the head will be able to
Starting point is 00:43:20 the 80 years, but what we have with 50, 60, the damage that cause. So I I counsel the people are the
Starting point is 00:43:30 people are the little more to try and not take a little pancada in the head, not to cut very in the rosts,
Starting point is 00:43:37 pancasses very strong, of trauma, of the heart, it affects much the health,
Starting point is 00:43:43 and it was what happened with me, it was to be in hospital of emergency you know
Starting point is 00:43:48 what was going to get in hospital did all the time, I'm diagnosed with a concussion
Starting point is 00:43:53 that is a lesion cerebral, caused a pure impact. And I I stayed 10 months seeing the symptoms of the concussion. Dought of the head. Nause, vomiting,
Starting point is 00:44:05 I'd vomitable. I'd say it to go ahead. I'd go ahead. I'd go ahead. I'd be in the school. I'd never look at my telephone. Ruined, no, the time entire,
Starting point is 00:44:15 taking the remedies fortissimous. I don't know what to do. This was very frustrating for me. And, my, I love this as an obstacle
Starting point is 00:44:26 that happened in my life to over and give a walk for the world it was a lot for 10 months of
Starting point is 00:44:32 the pain the dores of the face, it was a pack like the part of the
Starting point is 00:44:38 back of my head was very very strong the heart totally different of the pain
Starting point is 00:44:43 that I had seen in my life so it was very very very difficult
Starting point is 00:44:49 so and then when I when I I was, I started to go to the academy to do again, I said, I'm going to start to take some of my stint, and all.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And then, like, all the pancada force that I'd be, me, I'd be afraid, I'd feel like I'd go back, to see all those of the symptoms of the new, you know, I started, I was afraid of this phase of me assustar,
Starting point is 00:45:12 too, was a disaffiator, but I don't want more. I, like, this year that I was, I learned I'm very much, I'm really much, I've done many,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I've done the opportunities that I have out of the lot, and like, today, me makes much more happy,
Starting point is 00:45:25 to help a loter new that's working in the first, I'm doing the career, than I'm
Starting point is 00:45:30 going to go and to work, so if I have this opportunity, if I'm this opportunity, why not,
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'll, a new career, see a new life, you know, construct a family, to build
Starting point is 00:45:41 a family, things that a lot can't do you can't do, because it's not
Starting point is 00:45:46 life, we know, we don't have a life personal, it's all competition,
Starting point is 00:45:51 it's all a lot, and I, when I started to compete, I'm going to go to
Starting point is 00:45:56 get to get to the R&A with 18 years of age, I believe to me, many people
Starting point is 00:46:01 were a postentory premature, she's a new, I'm very still, I'm very
Starting point is 00:46:08 go to go to the academy today, and I do you play with the
Starting point is 00:46:11 people who's being in I'm a posentada, but I decided to do other things in my life, develop other things in my life, and I'll see another career in my life. We know that the
Starting point is 00:46:24 presentator in the MMA never, never even ever, never, that eventually, you know, that's eventually he'll make a motion-zim and decide to to go to-lotar, there something that would you'd probably, or a adversary, a , money, the money, you said, for
Starting point is 00:46:36 that's probably, but, like, it's like, a proposal, I'm recusable, so? No, no, no. So, this was a thing that I studied a lot, before to take a decision. I said, I don't want to be one of the athletes, those athletes who are, then, I don't want to go. No, I want to do this for me.
Starting point is 00:46:55 So, let me use a little more the time that I have to think. And I started to experimenter, to, go back to academia, train, and in those events, and not are more doing well doing, doing, the other things, the other things that I was doing, for the other things, I was doing do you do, and, me, I don't, like, I don't have a
Starting point is 00:47:12 , I don't want to go to work more, but I'm going to do, but I'm going to help the people to be this, this, that does my heart can't, today, is that makes my
Starting point is 00:47:24 my eye to bring, is to see, the people who are getting the opportunity, to be able to help them, like, to show them what they can do
Starting point is 00:47:33 do they're more in the event, the, those trainings, and in all, you know, This me makes me very happy. Entra
Starting point is 00:47:39 there's not in not a heart of the when you're not in actagon no,
Starting point is 00:47:43 but who know a lot of Jiu-Gitz a thing you would you considerate?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah, then I'm yeah, yeah, compete in J-Jitsu, compete in A-D-C
Starting point is 00:47:54 compete with kimono including like, various events there have come
Starting point is 00:48:00 to send a message the people just made that
Starting point is 00:48:04 specular this idea where I compete in other sports that not be a M.A.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And maybe it happens. Let's see. There was some little little that's going to in M.A.? Who knows now you
Starting point is 00:48:16 can't do you can't do do you dogett? Myel. I had much to do this a third
Starting point is 00:48:21 with a Joanna. Much, I think the two were very many parellas there. And I
Starting point is 00:48:27 wanted to have made a third other with her not. I'd have been not have done it.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But if roll out in the Jiu-S will me would be the prairie
Starting point is 00:48:35 of her, not the procaption. No, I think she not top that's the not so
Starting point is 00:48:39 no way to be so in the same. Who can know, then roll a revanch with Shaquil
Starting point is 00:48:44 or then with a ball in the panic? That's it's a more fast to happen to
Starting point is 00:48:49 happen to happen. It's more so much than she'll think, I think
Starting point is 00:48:54 more fast. And looking to back back so, what the world the world
Starting point is 00:48:58 the world of you do you do the person that
Starting point is 00:49:00 you pass this I think the construction of who I am I'm today, of the person that I'm my turn, the heart that I have, the want of the way that I have to see the people who are living in the life. I don't
Starting point is 00:49:17 I don't think the human is a good or or I believe that the human, he practices to be good or be a way, you know, and to be in the sport, to be, in the arts martial, me ensin-o-muched, to practice be the best, to do well, to do it, to I'm going to be in my world, I have a great
Starting point is 00:49:36 relationship with my family, today. There's a great relationship with all those of the people who I've really related in my career entire. I've built amazes I'm really good. I me involved as a person. I studied.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I, like, I've in great events of luta. I built a relationship with a major enterprise of the world. I'm there, I'm there,
Starting point is 00:50:00 into the UFC, now, helping the people to develop, you know, like, all the
Starting point is 00:50:06 all the Luta, everything was the what I'm really, I'm proxioner. You know, I remember
Starting point is 00:50:12 when I started to practice, I'm going to get to the years of the people,
Starting point is 00:50:15 I'm saying, ah, the Luton you don't be you don't know, you don't not you know,
Starting point is 00:50:20 when in the world the world, the LUTA me did all the I'm doing what I'm
Starting point is 00:50:26 always, I I'm eternally grat. Today, I would have the opportunity to do
Starting point is 00:50:30 things totally different of the lot. Meche with my investments, mechee with investment
Starting point is 00:50:37 of house, various things that I do this opportunity. I have this opportunity, but I
Starting point is 00:50:44 want to live more the lute, do that the what the lot of the what I
Starting point is 00:50:49 put in the opportunity to work to work for F.C. Now, just to just to
Starting point is 00:50:54 talk, many of the someone who's who's never who's someone who's one of the grand, so is like
Starting point is 00:51:00 it's one of 10 Meliores a never never have been a new FIC you think you are
Starting point is 00:51:07 the most lot lottodora now that your career is you a major you're the never
Starting point is 00:51:11 ever had been a I'm I'm I'm like I'm I see
Starting point is 00:51:18 the question voted to the champion who put the title but I'm me vees
Starting point is 00:51:24 much as a champion of the life, that supero, much thing personal, psychological,
Starting point is 00:51:32 at the way of the idea of to put the central on the cintura, I have certain I'm, I'm sure that I was the
Starting point is 00:51:39 most the first of Pesupil and never got the for very little, for very
Starting point is 00:51:45 little, all the times that I, at the time that I disputed the title, was for
Starting point is 00:51:49 much and at the few, and the opportunity to dispute the opportunity to
Starting point is 00:51:56 a little, never was finalized, never was nocautia always went to to wince, I always me, I'm always, I'm
Starting point is 00:52:03 always I'm trying opportunities to evolve, but I'm going to like that the idea of the bad
Starting point is 00:52:10 comes to the bad, all this my experience of trying to do, and I
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