MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan a uma vitória do cinturão do UFC

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

Uma das maiores esperanças de cinturão para o Brasil no UFC, Alex Poatan deverá ter sua oportunidade pelo título dos médios caso passe por Sean Strickland no UFC 276, mesma noite em que Israel Adesanya defende o trono contra Jared Cannonier. Em longo papo com o Trocação Franca, o algoz de Adesanya no kickboxing falou sobre o importante duelo com Strickland, os comentários de Paulo Borrachinha, o sucesso financeiro no MMA comparado ao GLORY, por que não quer ser dono de academia quando se aposentar, e o cardápio “porcaria” que come antes do camp: hamburger, pastel e cachorro quente. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. One of Brazil’s top stars in the UFC, Alex Pereira will potentially get his chance for middleweight gold with a win over Sean Strickland at UFC 276 — the same night Israel Adesanya defends his throne against Jared Cannonier. In a lengthy chat with Trocação Franca, the man that KO’ed Adesanya in kickboxing breaks down his upcoming fight, Paulo Costa’s recent comments on the matchup, his financial success in MMA compared to GLORY, why he doesn’t want to own a gym when he’s retired, his unorthodox diet off camp (which includes hamburgers, hotdogs and pastéis), and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, hello, my friend of the last episode of podcast, Trocaation Franca, a sua case of MMA in this immense podosphere.

I'm Gileverg. I'm Gileverickr, correspondent of the site American, M.M. I'm M. Mayfair in the Brazil. I'm going to this quarter

day on the company of Alex Poetan, which can guarantee your chance to the trinoron to Israel Adesani,

case pass for Shanshrykand, a major lot possible for him in the category, marked by the day 2 of July

in L.S. All right, my name, me, my. Beleas, D'Aulang, Proto. In the page,

man, so, as you said, you said, a lot, a lot bigentent that,

that came to come for you after that performance excellent against the Blum Blundado is the what you

was the what you thought of this option that the FC you gave there. Po,

no, no, I was the no, I had this pre-egetment with who I would be able to after that

after this battle, for me, perfect. You're surprised, you, you,

you, you were, that they had to you'd just going to you go to the

last, I said, I, I said, with the Glover, too, one way, I said that the UFC

I mean to make a way to a way to do a top of the category, for your story in the kickbox, the total rivaled

with Adesania, but I confess that I just didn't put to putt with other trickles, which was a guy that was being

cuted to to defy the centurion, you're what was going to I'm going to I,

poor, nothing to me was surprise. The people people were people, people

I'll be just contra-de-sand, so, why not? What were you another to do? Before, with a blindade, they were

to give other alternatives, they're talking about about, but this time, the first name that was Shanshruid,

or they got to talk to more to more, or what came to it just was he just, it's right

to him. Now I don't remember, now, but it was he did it never, but it was a, what you said,

a, an excellent to the choice for who is trying to disputed the centuron. He's coming of a

great sequence also in the FCC, are six victories? When we when we're

talking about a lot of a lot of six victories six, six, six, yeah,

so I'm a person, a man a man d'n, but my style of the lot,

I think for me will be very good. What is a lot a lot very, a lot,

a lot of a lot of you, a lot of a lot of a up, disposed

even, you know, want to get and you really, this me motivates me and it's a lot of I'm a little, you know,

maybe more than I'm doing, a strategy, you know, this can't be able to be me, I'm not a little bit. But I think it's a

lot of a good way. You think in this a lot not came to the knockout? Yeah.

Seriously, I'm not I'm thinking in the knockout. If it were a lot so,

if it was a point, gain, clearly, I prefer, I want to see,

you know, it's like with the blindado with three rounds, po, saying in the

poor, the guy trying to me If you're there, or I, depending, to try to

put down, I don't know, it's not, it's talking of MMA. You're saying you're saying, the blinded

the point of those pothas, did you back? No, no, because, I've, I've also,

not of MMA, you know, to be, to be putting a porrada, forth, and the guy resistia

there, but even in the kick-box, the guy is prepared, you know, I said, he'd be prepared

For this, and to support the, for the game, it would have been knocked out of the could have been in the same way that he could do that would do but I didn't, I'm very happy with the result

and the way that was, I'm, I'm going to defend the chaos, say, I'd, go, I'd have, I'd, I'd, so I could, not, I,

could do, do, I can do with, and I'm trying, and I was, most about, for everyone who who've been, not

doubting, me need and living talking in my my job, how would be a

defense of a question, how it would be back on the wall, in the

reality, I don't get to fall to the ground, but, I'm,

I'm training for all, trying to all. How you you pay attention in this,

in the people say, on the people, about, about, about,

about, questions, this is a that makes with you, like, maybe, I'd have

the opportunity to show that people that people want to be getting to get in a lot, nobody can get to

get a subfok but, but, to be to be able to be what the people maybe

think you don't, you know, not, not, you know, when the people,

like, so, for me, no, I, I'm, I'm, I think,

the point I think I'm I'm, I'm, put, put, some, people,

people, I can say, Rungo I can say, ex-athletes, even, I'm talking, even, you know,

that's going to that's things, and, you know, he's not, you know, it's,

well, when we're, when we are we don't know with a blindable, there's a thing he's

, but I, the guy was a man, he was a man, and I'm always had

that time to do that some, but, for, but, to, poor,

to, I'm, I got in the I came to the I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm saying, now, now,

I'm gonna drop, why you know, why you're gonna get a man, when it's a man, he's done, well, I'm,

I was, were three rounds, and I was in final, I didn't me expose and all, but a man, he's,

he's, has to be to me have to be to ask, to me have to be some time,

sometimes in some mode, sometimes, But I I... I... I'll... So, this,

it doesn't me atrapal. There's some ex-athlete specifically that said, something that you commode, so,

technically not, but, like, the Coimier, the Coimier said, in those parable, like, with calm

and, and, the guy, no, know, I don't know, because it's there,

you know, because it's there, I was there, I'd like, yeah, so, I'd, so I'd,

I imagine, when I don't in the organization, when the people commentable this type of things, I'd say, oh, are you guys know, this guy, say this guy, to say this man, to say, but you guys don't know to do that's nothing, you know, because until a certain point, I

know, I've seen of the plans, you know, and like, he's commenting, until where I see, you know, so, then, then, like, I'm saying, but, you know, but, you're a person, you know, but, you know, I'm a contract, my mom, you know, I I have a contract, so I know what will

happen. And, like, these guys don't know of nothing. It's not the side, but not know, so it's always it's not. I don't know what it is. Because, I don't know the story of him, you know, but have to get to come and because

not it's like, but maybe it's because it's with him, you know? If you were to pick, you get the McGregor and the Floyd, that they're not in the box, yeah, let's put, let me put, let me I'll put like, I've I said this, I've said, I've said here to you,

what I'm saying, what is the chance, yeah, I'll fight with Adesania, and in the time, the MacGregor would be with him to fight with Floyd, understand? If you were going to be the box, it would be like impossible.

Don't it? And so, do you, both, modalities different, the guys, know, modalities different, but, car, he would be

to do organizations different, and happened, and it happened to the person, I thought that everyone thought that was in the guy, I've done

two days in the car, both the man, all the people have interest. And a guy saying,

and a boss of this can't. I can't understand this car. Because not happened

with him? Just for because of this? I don't think the Kormiel, is a guy that

came to Strachforce in Victo, the champion the champion of the person was a

friend of his category, there was a subid relatively rapidly to the

centuron. Ah, and then after he did he subio to the person

to be to the person too, the guy that not, no,

He had to win 10, there was. He was, he was a champion or not? No. No. No.

No. He, he disputed his Olympics, but he not was not? Yeah, so it's, it was very but maybe it's

being more that's, people, I don't know. But, like, just some things that pass there in the hour, but

but, I'm going to go there, go to my car, and I'm And I just forget. I don't remember. The only thing I

feel like I'm remoading, you know. And this this is a potential to have a talkator more different than the other for example,

the first time, Michael Eliz, and not was a man who said a man who's a man, a respecter, you know, he's got in

a podcast, with things that the Dida said, the Dita said, the Daniel Vakas said, but the

blindado in in the same, no, no, no declaration that he had you made you know,

but the but the thing, a, a marra, a man a man, this is the type of things that you

motivator that you take as a combustible, what your adversary talk about you, what he critiqued, no, don't let's say. No, no. This form, no. The form that he doesn't, no.

None one. What I would be more preoccupied, like, it would be this form, like I, serious here,

following to you, that everyone will be this matter, I'm the same the same way he says, the form that he

thinks the form strategic, what he thinks of me. When it's a part of the thing that we see that is a conversation serious, I I'm, I press attention. But what he says, for me, it doesn't,

it's a, poor, no, it's a thing that he's, I don't know, from what I see, it's a personage, get to be a expert, a conversation, a serious. When it's a conversation serious, I like to listen. And he, when he's really, when he's in the octagon,

is an excellent lotator, like we said about it's going to six victories, he's been in Victorio

since he's subbed to get into a state of his 15 minutes that he did in the 15 minutes that

he went to a quarter, he, that he he got, he got, he got, but he

got a little bit was the one of the point the point of course that you think that's

a question, because we know, obviously, the game of the level technical, is a

patamara on the He's a guy who likes to to try a porrada, but he has this resource there's a maybe a marat and have a finalization

there, you think he will try this country? No, no, not, not, not, not,

not, I think he, he will try, this I think he will try, not, I don't know if he will

insisting. I, I think more to than to not, I think he will be

to be if he try a there, I'm, I, I, I,

I, I, I'm Keday I see the guy I'm sorry I'll

get ridmets but I'm a trojanian I have a good way I think that this is that makes

with this strategy if he if he is a poor and he wants to

invest even so a kid and he didn't

see not been so I'm getting it's it's it's

it's it and then he he's he solado well I'm

well I'm on the part of the same. I just I'm trying to more. But let's go to see

up to see like that maybe to try to let's just maybe being a kind of a

quackety that he's kind of that's maybe he might maybe he can think he

can't in other way like this it's difficult okay I'm quid

me get down but not a but not a car I'm a I'm

going to and he he will have to put force and so

for he he He will remember that he says, I've tried to go, because he's very very bad, but I'm going to he did he here, but I'm going to try to secure him here.

This will disgast a lot of him, I think that, if I'm trying to get a quen to, then I'll, I'll keep, but if I don't for, I'll never, but for you think of this way, you can't talkation good. And it's a thing that can't affect him mentally, because if he tried to

get down, because he's trying to get back, and not not you know, or then quid or that kind of a position that's not

a point in he'd be able to put, I'm talking about a point in pet, quack, or not he

never to get the mental of his yeah, no, this is, it's, it's the

worst thing, that's the thing I'm that's the way, I'm trying down, but I'm

going, I'm going, I'm going to get a little, I'm going to get to get to,

to try, and then I've been that's, you're, you're just just I say, I'll say, I'll say, I'm going to,

I'm going to be a truncation, I'm in a vantage. Now, when you go in the desperation, you'll want to be able to get the car, poor, until he's a little, 100%. And how is

your Jiu-Zitsu, we know, that you know that you train with Glover, he trains a lot of time, because you know that's people they want to avoid your trocaation, you armar you, how is you? How is you

would you have to be your jiu-s? If you'd have a fash in the jiu-s, I don't know. I'm, I'm a faxed a blue, but I have a few, I have many of the time. I think I have some of 10, 10 trains

of kimono, I like to train without kimono. I think, po, I'm learning, rapid. I'm learning rapidly, I'm learning rapidly, I'm learning with Kyle, with the globe, I'm going to have a tour

there now, too. For me, you know, this team is perfect, you know, I don't I need to, you know, to many people there not, to try with the guys right,

and, like, for me, it's excellent, for me, it's good. The chance Tricken, the last time he

was, was a knockout in the middle for Eliseo Capoeira, it was a beautiful, a shoot-rodated and he,

but he's invicto, since he's subbed to the category, you know, you think, in a category

more, more, the first, the trocation with a way, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he, I see many the brash of him

so there's there's there's there's many things I'm in this lot

he's he's for the Brazilian no foot in a roundado but you

see that's he got a man who gained experience also I think

maybe not that maybe not this partada to have subbed

but he's he came invooo he he's getting more

experience some How many of the other last? Seven Lutas? Six.

So six Lutas are a lot of a lot is a lot you can see I'm I'm not

you can't see that four years there's time since that there's much time

to train so you see that I don't have much time and I

know I'm involved even so the interview continue

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this Luta did a interview to Canaan Ankarate, he said that the

Chant Strickman chose and he was offered to get to him, but he was offered

because he created a more more a lot, because you don't a guy

rankyado and so, so it's a way than to find someone

that's on the part of the rank what you what you think you think

that this this declaration of this like it's a lot more than he

and other people in the top of the rank? I don't know it's even it's not difficult to say, I don't, I don't see

this, I don't see, he, was in a matter? You said, was in an interview? It was, I don't know,

I don't know what I don't see what he said he said, for I don't be rankiated, just this, you know?

Because theoretically when the, po, the first of the rank is the more than the 10,

maybe maybe it's for this, because, I think the guy not so burrow to say like I'm

thinking that I am the guy more fast for not not he's I think he thought he so I'm

going to respond to this way he I think he thought theoretically for I don't not be in the rank

I'm not I think can't be it I think it's there's there's much to say no

there there's there no I don't know what I'm not I'm know what

ranking important but not so in to define who to the pit I'm going to put up to the stutorial. I have to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, no, you're going to he knows that I'm more fast. I know, boy, that's all I have, I have said, I'm going to be, you know, I'm,

to be invicted to the team in the excellent phase you think the winner of this fight? You think the

winner of the tournament to play after the last month? I don't know, I don't know what can happen

because I entered, even when I got to ask me people, I was asking an Adesania to start

to be a centurion, yeah, and when I went to I'm going to be a person who is

there, and the guy is there, you now, but now I don't know how it I'm going to be prepared

if it's more one, two, three, I'll know, how many the organization does it so we're seeing,

it's been in a process rapid, and then of it's really is wrong, it's good? Po, I'm

I'm prepared , you know, I'm going to ask, if I was to talk, I'd be prepared, you know,

oh, but it's five rounds, oh, five minutes, and I even even said, I've had

I've done various battles, 5 rounds of kickbox, 3 minutes. And I can say to

you can maybe be more difficult to do 3, 5 rounds of kickbox in an high level,

like I did, like I know I'm gonna be there, but I think you're more,

you can't control more. I can't try this because I can't I'm I'm looking,

I've I've got I've done, I've got the two, I see the difference.

At least you get the guy that but say, no, but it's a lot level,

get a high level, rankyado talking about when you know the kickbox? Oh, where you

lot of the where you've talking to look at the same the way that's you're looking to compare. Now I

can't say, I can respond, and I know what is different. Now,

the my opinion, the opinion, the kickbox is more more complicated, you know, I imagine there,

five rounds I'm doing, I see what it's going to I see what's what's happening in the MMA a time,

he takes a two, three chute there take two, three chute in the pantorrily oh, it's just a

little bit of the car, end up, look at my last last one my last last one of

my last night, but when shoot in five rounds you know, so it's in the MMA I see many

people who see many people who justines for many less, you know, how one

is to talk, like, like, you know, in the way, in the opinion, not the

what you're that's that's more, so, like, for example, this,

this, this, this is, because you don't have this resistance, you know, you know,

you know, so, you know, the, man, you know, sometimes you're doing,

he's, there, two, three, chute, and then, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I don't say, I, if I'm a shot, if I'm a shot, if I'm a lot of, in a place just,

I don't want to get a, experience of kick-box not just receiving the one, you have to have the

resistance, you know, taking the chutes, you have to know, you have to know, it's a

whole, so, oh, Alex, poor, forth to a car, no,

if the guy to do, do, I'm, put, you know, it's, you know,

maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, will make you make, that will make you to make you destabilize,

and he will make the attention and to other other ways, and then is where you get, there's a man and you can't.

Entr on joelial and you can't, get you. And you, and you, you think the the, probably will be

the next defiant of Adesania, he has to go to D'Eusanne? You think he goes to

the Adesani segue there on top? I'll let me say to you here. you can't

post there if you want to if you want to be this next two two with the second what's the thing is the other than

the chute in the coche okay oh Alex but for a chute in the head oh no

caught a shot you on a knee but one but where it's where it

went where it came from how the guy is so it's okay

it's okay macho to make to make of it is difficult

to make to make to make a person knock out of the man. He nocaulte. He noca is a shoot, you know, jovely-ed, mausoleal, but no-caughte.

The shoot is to make to make, the shoot is to make. Then you see this that you, then you say, this is a place in the game of

it. And then you have to and how and how inibing, this, you know, is to defend,

blocking, you, Like, O'Dess who will do what? Will you do? You're going to do? I'm a guy parable? No, I'm going to defender.

An defense that I do, I'm macho with him too. Until when he will start? He will be machucing with the shoot?

So I have a defensive, you know, that I can't maybe to try to the game. That is a

thing that I think he does well, he makes, he makes, the people who don't know no, I'm going to

not, you know, and there are some that's very nitid That he took, but the guy, you're going to ask you to for them, to him, he's never going to say this shoot, I know, I, where I learned this, was in 2012,

when I went with Jay Lewis, that I went to Calteyed with the chute in those coaches. My last one of my last week I did now, the Vaktalv me shoted in my, in my, my, last, he shot, he, he shot, a lot, but I have a form of, there, even a shoot, getting, and I have a resistance

also in my, my my, my hands, you know? And at the final, I did a live, and the people were

asking, oh, that he made the time of the live, I said, I said, I said, no, it's nothing to

you know, for you, I'm not, I'm just for you know, a guy who's in the time that the time that,

the time that he was impossible the the guy, the car, pass a man so, you know,

imagine, after one, two hours, then, don't rella, you know, Mancane. I'm trying,

I was out well. I saw well, I got in defending, and what happens? What I'm doing that the

people are looking to do you, it's not going to get and I'm going to

I said, I said, I said, I didn't say that never will be going to everybody

from from after you went to M.A. You know, you're saying, like you are Descerno, you

DeSan, but there someone even, that you'd like to confront him day,

whether you know, in the MMA, in kick-box, in box, any other sport of combat,

like you would be to try to do you do not? No, no, nobody.

No, no. I mean, I'm , I'm not a lot, I want to fight, for a time, I want,

to be a time, no matter what, you know, whatever, you know, I want,

I want to look with the better, you know? I want to do you know, I'm

there's a poor, there's there's a no real, there's options, like,

did a show, you know, it's this, the people, it's going to see, people, have to see

something beautiful, you know, to see, to see, so, I mean, so, I'm going to

get to the job, I know, you know? You're a guy who did a game,

so, you're a champion duke, in the fact, to be being,

you don't you don't know the sentiment that will pass to your body to the heart when you get in your

hand the arm the cintrown of the FC but you think that like a personal,

a conquest of a future, will superer what you did personally on kickbox? It's,

it's difficult to say it's difficult. I can't say that in terms financial yes

but I think that one has your importance. I don't I'm not talking about

the glory and never you will say I talking about the glory. But I comparing the

glory and the UFC is different if not I would have been going I'd have been

there's better financially today for me to me is a better

but I think in question of the titles there and the

importance I think it gets maybe kind of part because we are

talking of a an event of a major of a modality and a other event of

the other model of the two are in the two but I'm even in media in question financial,

the UFC is in the man yeah, poe, go, I'm saying this, I'm

saying, I'm saying sincere, I'm saying, I'm not talking about and I know, and I

approve to be in I'm because where I know is thanks to the guys thanks to

because they me propos them were they've One, I've got to live of sport, standing in the glory, and it was a

a super vitrine for me, for the people's living, and are doing this baro of what I'm doing today. So if you were, if it were, it would be a little difficult to be where I'm today. The two sports

are a niche in the MMA and Kik-box, but the niche of the K-Box is a minor than the niche of the UFC, of MMA. And the UFC is a a company global, it's a bolso-mower to pay the

money to pay the bolst, comparing the two, you as well as you, as well, you're now, subbing, the ranking of the FC, how much the FC pager, compared to you received the dollar? Today, you've got the double that you gain in the glory, or something?

No, I'll talk to you, to say, sincerely, even if I can't if I can say this here, but... You can't say what you want. No, but I don't, no, me I was going to be in a

I I went I think I was getting than I was but I knew where I could get where I know my potential

so I posted in this not only my potential but my team and the business who are so alone you don't do you know what I'm doing I think you have to be

with a team there, 100% and I'm with this team. But I can say that my

book was in Glouye was a good, so maybe I had been in the

UFC, but I have my contract renovated and I'm satisfied with him.

Today he's more to get in in the glory. Yeah.

Yeah. And, poor, the people generally are four Lutas there, basically,

there generally is four Lutas for a contract to the athlete. And generally they're renavon after the

third Luta, uh, to see the results, and for you have a negotiation,

uh, that's legal to the two parts, and with me I think it was a little different there,

no, so I'm used two, two luts, and after the second rule I renavened my

contract, and I'm super-ferrous with my contract. It's that is This new contract That's signed is, of more

Four Lutas or is a contact more long? I think it's six lutes I'm sorry, I'm sorry It's been paid, right? It's been, meresitably, you know, with your story in the sport, It's always with your story, to be a threat of attention

I see many of the things I mean, I see many of the people At least, even, even other other athletes the guy came out of course he's going to

get to get a tent yeah poe ronkeated to the car poe the people people

say it's people just because the guy got got the people remember this just because the guy

got goto I got goto I just things things more than I think

I think I think what I'm I'm getting what I'm forgets with a Deszani you know

I'm not with him I don't know with him I don't know with him So I don't know, so I think that you have to to say, you have to say,

I'll have to be with a guy, I'm going to be with him, I gained him, then, then we'll value it on on this, you know, but I think that this recognition, uh, recognition of the career

and even in the question of financial, I think that's what I did, for what, I, you know? It's that, the same thing. the legregor

or what the guy probably with a guy there was he'd be doing in the M.A. Get you? Por,

they're paying the guy because the guy, it's a one, a story, you know?

And the same thing, I, I'm doing doing, to get with this

moral. You know? It's the same thing. You're going to do a faculty, then you

enter in an stage then you You do you do you do you have people

there's people just do you have done there's a job and there's like to

do you do it and when he's in the same company with a person who

got in a guy that's a guy who did get the thing he can't

get the I don't think I'm doing so I'm doing these

stages I'm I'm doing these courses to be being

being being And these are those stages, the courses, they go to where? Where is the top matura? Your formatura is to get the centauron

the middle of the UFC? Or it's a length? You think in, repeat the fate that you did in the glory, for example, of two centurons in the day that the

Glover, he not is as a champion, as he was a posentated, courting the life of his in Sobriard.

I don't think of this. If I'm thinking this, people, I'm thinking much, I'm thinking

when I'm I don't know the centuron of the med, the the guys, boy, now, there's a lot of things, get a lot of material, imagine to say,

imagine to talk to other signoron. But, so, I don't know how time that I will be in this, and the my body is

very very, I think, who will respond this to me, will be my going to say, oh, Alex, it's,

well, it's difficult here, car, in the next you're not so, so, or,

or, or it, or, or it, or, you know, here you don't here you don't

here's I'm going to but I don't know I don't know I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to I'm in the last time that the last time for the I don't think in a little

heavy pesado but who you know you training with Glover and he he's taking the gus

he's he's he's eight years in front of you can maybe you know

more eight years of him there more eight hours of career in the yeah

I don't want to I don't want to talk about how time I have no, but I don't want

I don't I don't I think I don't I'm not I'm yeah eight years

you know you're so you're so you're so you're so I think my my body

will start to say oh do you know by mannerate I'm

I'm sure I want to get back I'm want to get my

and I'm 34 years, I think I can I can't appreciate well, I think my father said, you have to have to be

to be able to be able to make a lot of money or not, you know, you have to appreciate and I think I have to listen these concedes there

because this is a, it's a life very difficult, you know, for you know, for you to be in an old level, that you

need, this it's exige much, uh, At least we see many of these guys like to be uprozening, but does a superluta and all. When I'm a posent, I can even think in this.

But I think it's different because not you can't go to go with a mind like, I'm like, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to train out, and, pour, three hours and a me every day and, po, I'm going to get to this car.

And I, for everything I I'm doing, and I'm, I'm a posentary, oh, a superlut, you'll get a grand and and so,

you know, a part of the thing that I see that I don't go to be a lot of there, but I have a possibility

of a great chance to I know, maybe by the grant, I'm going that I'm not me to make

because it's the thing, this is the reality, poe, I'm there with 40 years of

all, I'm already, I'm I'm a I'm just this focus, you have that's

focused, oh, then, po, don't you know, you have the same resistance, the same condition, the same condition, if you don't do, you have a good development, you have to train. And you've got to 40 years,

I don't get, now, if I'm 40 years and I can't do, understand, okay, I'm going to think of a champion, but there's a time that you can't think of this form. You have in mind, what you want to do, in your post-career,

if it, oh, no, when they me aposentary, I'm, I go? Post-vita. It's a foe. No, your post-carrearra. It's like, to go back to Brazil, to be more than here,

sussegged, or having a life with a family and or having a academy, pass a new thing to get a time.

I always said, I don't want, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, but, so I have my two two children,

and they, they don't don't train them, going to come back. It's 11, 12 years of age, so I think it's

a an age really good. many people say, but because no, we're not training, no, it's not the hour. Now I've never

with 21. So, boy, with 12 years, you know, not going to be not at 9 years to front. You're not

you're getting? So, so, I don't think in academia, but I can have to give this attention to them,

but I don't know, but I don't know, but I I love much to help the people, and maybe

I'm going to be thinking just in me, just in the most my videos, but I think I'll be trying to help the people.

So I don't know how it will be, but I'm saying I'm going to respond what I think now. I don't want academia,

I don't want to, I didn't get to be a thing other thing, and I don't see.

Like what? There's a something like of food. A burgeria. But so, even thinking,

it would more for a dream for a love to not, my rent

will be going to get to be in that's my hamburger no, I'm not

I don't think in this I don't want to get to get a man

the man who I'm what I want is like something I'm do

do give for many people because if I do do this I'm do

a job for many people as I'm not I'm thinking in having a

look to and see that's I think I'm going to pay these people who can't work out

to me and not I don't want a bunch of things no a thing a problem

so that that's a company will have this is my thinking this is my thinking so I'm trying to

work in that that's been paid and you know and like you Like, I think, like, I want to

I want to go to and I'm going to one or other, like, it's a social, you know, it's there on Instagram, oh, hamburger, po, a t'amburgie,

oh, presence, out of, po, for, you know, ex-campion of the F.C. is, there's my trophy,

my, my, my centurion, my certificate, but there's my can't be, there, to get a lot to get a fort,

you know, receive, there's a day, not all the day, but be there's a day there, but be able to receive to the people, say, well, I'll be able to take a photo with him, go to take a photo with him, then I'm going to get a hamburger area of him, get him, you know?

Coins of the type, you know, but to realize the same, right? And now invest in some other thing that made a return that I still don't have idea. And hamburgering is good to do after

you can't do a minute, you'll have to be the best one of You can go to go to a burger and go to house and susseggered and say, poe, it's not bad bad, no, I'm a bad, no, I'm here I have a train of Markham, I eat every day, you know?

I'm, my own some food, like, now, put, it's, well, it's, oh, I'm, like, all the food, I'm, like, I'm a breakfast, the day of the morning, uh, um, a-o-o-o-a-loss, a meal, rice, degeon, salada, when it's when it's a time,

I'm, I'm a day, I'm just, I'm a day, I'm a day, And when it was a janda, po, 100% of beseecher. But I'm not corriging.

What I'm doing? Pothierre? What I'm what I do? When I say, porcari, like,

it's things that not a food of a plate, because it hamburger and pasta. I'm I'm practically

every day. Or it's a hamburger or it or is a both. Poh, it's a

life that I want to I'm because I'm into because I want to come a pastel all the day,

I'm every day, I'm fissed, I'm fissed 200 kilos. It's good. So, the night is pastel, hamburger, like I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I like, the cheese salad, I like, the cheese food, so I

think, when it's lunch, I think of those two. When it's pasta, I go,

the carne with cheese, broccoli with cheese, and capetis, and clabence with catupiri. Well,

pastel of broccoli is just to say that's saying it's light, right? When I'm

When I'm When I'm in diet Then I'm I'm going to I'm going to A toast Then I like I like a parcell

Of marano chocolate So I'm I'm a morangue And then I Poh When I don't I don't

I'm a Caste I like a Subremes I don't I take a Asoi Or I tom

Ate So I'm a So it's So it's So it's The thing I'm What do you

I do I'm I'm privileged-y-a- say so, if I'm so you're parable, this encha-year-five-kills in 10 days. Five kilos in 10 days. So what happens? If I'm going to this diet, not a part of restritia, the whole whole, I'm going to

try and I'll put it more five years. Poh, are five years of agony, because this is not legal, then now, now, I'm going to do. But now, now, but in the next few days, I'll just go to do it, but, but in the next few days, I'm just I'm going to get to enter for my

preparation I have to focus on I don't I don't don't say I don't think I'm not

I'm used to that I'm always that I'm really that I'm because I'm going to come the I'm coming now and I'm

going to say oh Alex you've got you got you're you're more of a more of a

man I'm coming to come for a caram I'm come you to do you

know it's now you There's a lot. Then I say, Po, yeah. And when I pass a luta,

I'm going to start a lot. So I have this control, you know? And I've been doing this always, and

it's doing the same. So I'm doing to come in a little I'm going to go to I'm going to

I think, I've done to do you have to and I'm going to focus and then I'm going to

get to this is the part of, and it is right so you go there's there's

on the matrono-o now you you're going to eat the Cachor Kaint with what? Because,

as a carioca, I look for the Cachor Quaint of Paulister, and I think it's bizarre. A piniel sincere, that is bizarre, put a pourer,

bot a million of what you put in your Cachero Kahn? The Cachero Kankan, what happens, when it's for me, he knows those things,

he does all, it's a thing that he doesn't for anyone. You get there, you know, if you say, oh,

I want, with calabresa because he's you're asking but it's a word that I don't like if he's he's got

like cheese in a cowlady you know yeah but cheese ralalas but cheese but yeah but

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah there sometimes some

sometimes sometimes he's some some sheder there there's there can milk

yeah there there then vinegret and two sals

yeah He comes He's been pesed He's been pesed But he's But I think I'm going to

I'm going to Cajon Kempchew, now, today, I think I'm going to eat a pastel,

I don't see, a pastel, no see. Now, after this conversation, I will have to end

an interview with you and I have to eat a because it's open the no,

I have to ask you need a a, it's a, but depending there,

you put a little, or you put a a palmita or you put a tomato, that he gets more succulent,

more molladish, you know? Then, then, then, before I will mark a man by San Bernardo, for us to make a roly there, and prove the culinary of the region. Thank you. This is. You're in the Rio, yeah? All the Rio.

I'm going to beatt' end uprored so now to the month. So, it's just mark it. Yeah, just mark it, boy. You pay for us to us. Fechew. The only, Joe, the better hamburger, yeah, you're going to be

a better, you know, because I don't not go out of my boss, no, no, no, gobro of the

my chef. Yeah, poor, cool, cool, cool, great, good,

thank you about for the podcast, it's good to get to get to

your time, and I'm anxious to try, and I'm a hamburger, alex,

too, too, too, thank- a, thank-a- we're, we're here

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