MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan exclusivo: KO no UFC 300, meme do Khaby, 3º cinturão e mais
Episode Date: April 20, 2024Alex Poatan volta ao Trocação Franca ainda como campeão meio-pesado do UFC, após nocautear Jamahal Hill com requintes de crueldade cômica no UFC 300, e fala sobre a comemoração ao estilo Khaby,... se havia sentimento de vingança por Glover Teixeira, quem será o próximo rival pelo título, se enfrentaria Tom Aspinall pelo terceiro cinturão em Manchester, e muito mais. O podcast traz, ainda, a íntegra da participação de Kyra Gracie no WebSummit, que rolou no Rio de Janeiro e contou com Guilherme Cruz como moderador. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alex Pereira returns to Trocação Franca — still as the UFC light heavyweight champion — after knocking out Jamahal Hill in vicious fashion at UFC 300 to discuss the victory, his Khaby-inspired celebration, if he felt like avenging Glover Teixeira, who’s next for the LHW belt, if he’s down to fighting Tom Aspinall for a third title in Manchester, and more. The podcast also features Kyra Gracie’s talk at this week’s WebSummit in Rio de Janeiro, which was moderated by MMA Fighting’s Guilherme Cruz. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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the MMA Fighting in Brazil,
Guillermo Cruz.
I'm a big of the 5th, 317,
the episode of the podcast, Troca, Son, Frank,
the house, so Baxter,
this immense, for both I,
I'm going to Speller.
I'm going to Chris,
correspondent on the site American,
on M.M.I. Faria, in the Brazil,
and I'm back in this
week, so, with an episode
extra of podcast,
because I just about
with Alex Poatan,
champion, a little-pised
of the FC, a grand distack,
one of the great distacks
the FC-300,
that it was going to roll out in Las Vegas.
So it was clear that I had to
bring to you to see in the MMEFA in English,
but here in audio
for you to hear that I was saying
about saying about it was going to win,
or not the Glover,
if will not be a plough of the next
because he will be in Brazil.
Tom Asp and Manchester,
Ancalaev, in Abu Dhab, or in New York.
Let me talk about with Alex Poitam
about all over all over.
On the other side of the line,
we have Alex Poitang,
a champion, me and a big posteatial
Jamal Hill, defend the centauron.
Well, Atan,
pleasure to start with you
more one of the way.
How are you,
these post-lut
that's,
he's never,
but he's back
to the moment,
and the,
I'm doing Laudione
in the PFL.
How did,
it's,
it's,
it's,
I've been,
to celebrate a little,
I've been to
with a kid
with a class
there in the
Academy of the
Columbia,
the club,
yeah,
I'm
just trying to
the pen,
yeah?
Well, I've
back to
the life normal,
not,
man,
and there
didn't
so,
the commemoration, we'd have to do
do something for these days
but I'm very
happy with all the whole that
happened for this
bellissima victory, a bell
knockout, the result of a job
well, but
I'll continue to those pox,
and I'm going to be able to my life normal.
You were confident in the victory, obviously,
I was confident in a knockout, was what you
could, but you imagine why because
you're so rapid, so it was your second
victory more rapid in MMA, just was a little bit more
demorado
in that
the
fight
to
the fight
against
Sriikland
was
so you
imagine
the fight
or you
should
or you're
with the
opportunity
that
she's
like I'm
like I
always
said,
I'm
not I'm
not
a finalization
always
prepared
for the
five
rounds
I
think that
me
makes
more
more
mentally
and it
is what
I'm
what I
want
and
not a
surprise
I
know that
it's
can't
happen
we
we
we
we're
we
What I'm going to do
do you want to
do you have to have
question a lot,
about the result
I want to have
a good performance
and I'm
I'll continue
do this very well
the luta
it was
but it happened
something that
not was what you
expected?
Something happened
that you
surprised
of having taken
a shoot
on the
part of
the backes
there.
No,
the lot
was that was
that was
that was
all the world
I did
even put
I just
I put
the most
the
trainings, and, boy,
I've been
my lute,
it's basically
there's
what we've
been doing
in the
training,
never trying
to perfectu-
there,
the techniques,
and,
every time,
every time,
that's the
I've been
a great experience,
me dedicating
much in the
many of my
training.
And one of
the
one of the
lot of
the most
was,
immediately,
actually,
had that
there was
that the
heartbeat-
that the
rabidim
was just,
without,
just,
just,
without,
just,
you know, calm,
my, bro, let's continue
here, do you
do?
First, the shoot
do you?
Or was more
it, but it's,
but it's,
no,
it's,
it's,
sort of,
maybe of raspom
there,
but,
but,
barchey the
there,
po,
everybody knows,
po,
do you know,
no,
no,
that's all over
for this,
but,
but,
it's,
it happens
in training,
because,
poor,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
so,
sometimes
happens
so I see
more than the
how it's the
how you
take a porrada
there,
then you take a
point out of the way,
then you say,
it's going to
be prejudicate
and I'm
focused,
you know,
to dominate
the lot of
the lot of
also,
I don't know
that the knockout
would be in that
hour,
in reality
I didn't
know if it's
not been
not
but I'm
focused,
so I'm
so it happened.
Many
people
people
said to
know what you
think
how it's here
this is the moment?
For you
you're
part of
Rabidim and
you know,
you know,
you're doing
something that's
he was doing
something he's
not a
time,
you thought it
was a time
about your
moment,
the way,
the way,
the movementation
of the
movementation of
the movement
well,
not,
he don't
put up
up to put
to go and
up the time
to be the
time all over
time,
you see
well,
you see,
I do
some pass
to the
past the
two passes to
the last
the last
the
the better angle to
to bathe.
And,
po,
I was doing
this, and
the Jamal,
in some
moments,
he started
to go back
to be in
not to
make,
but,
it's,
but I'm
trying the
distance
there,
but it's
not,
but I
said,
ah,
I,
I thought,
I,
I'm,
I,
I,
I,
I said,
that was,
that's,
that's,
I'm,
I'm
I'm proxemeer,
but I'm,
I'm,
I was,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
embalo, when
it's when it's
when you
go to pause
the video,
I'm at the
same distance,
and I'm,
not that I
go there,
and I'm back
on the car,
long in
a second.
He had
a moment,
he could be
a farce,
you know,
so many people
say that
that's
that's
that's a
, but
I think,
I'm a
person, I'm
suppose,
I'm not
I'm sure,
I'm not,
I'm,
I'm not,
I'm,
I'm,
I don't go,
I'm not so,
I'm not
so,
does something,
does something
there,
people who,
though,
I can't get a
goal,
and the car says,
porra,
it's like,
go there,
go there,
and come around,
and it's,
for me,
it's for me
that's a
problem,
you know,
I'm trying,
for,
I'm trying to
get the other,
and I'm
too focused.
So,
sometimes when
the people
want the
complimenter,
and I
don't want
to come
to comeprian,
I don't
get to
put up,
I don't know
I'm not
I'm not
my reaction
that I'm
and then
I do the
space,
do the car
to him
say,
he,
he don't
me complimenter
let's go
to the
little bit,
I'm going to
I'm going to
a guy,
I'm going to
go to work
a little
to get a
moment,
you can see
that I'm
doing this time
to come in
that you're
going to
just a
way,
he's going to
he said,
he said to
he said to
he had a
short,
but he
had a time
short,
but he
to movement
and
probably he
didn't do
he didn't
do it.
You're
he was
more aggressive
in the Lutra? He said
much the time
total, that
he'd be
to try a porrata
with you in
back, that
he would be
to put up
back to be in
his, he
never tried
on the FCC,
never applied
a Kappa,
never applied
a Koebaugh
not to be
back to be
not back to
the way he
he's not
in the
way he's
I think the
thing he was
like,
I'm like
to do not,
the conditions
that everyone
says he's
having to
train,
lesionable,
for,
for five
minutes,
five minutes,
five minutes
five minutes
there, is
a little,
it's a me
complicated.
So in my
thought, I
thought that he
would be like
to do
nothing, but
as I'm going
moving down to
he don't
make this distance
to do that
he'd
put a
job, if he
had been
to be a
second, he would
come with a
question, I
imagine this.
But when he
he had been
out of the
part of the
abdomen,
but it was
he was going to
be very
rapid,
he was
very
expert.
So I don't have chance,
to maybe,
to he does this
strategy,
that I think that's
what he would
do you do.
So I don't
paris in front of
him, but I
think he would
be for all right.
You think he
was a minute
a week of a
time of
a provocation,
to leave the
similar,
the consul of,
while you
had you
put the flethe
there, he
pega,
he'd be in the
way, but in
the way,
the end of
an arbitor
conversing with
you,
and in the
lot in
in the
position,
a posture different,
so?
I was what I
I said if I
if I had a posture
different
he would be
to make it
I don't
let's just he
I'm going to
get this posture
so I'm a
man I'm
a man he'll try a porrada
with him
he would
try a porrada
with me
because I
would be parrack
in a prorado
he would
be able to
be a prorado
but my
my game is
different
different
everyone is everyone
is everyone
is doing
I'm
I'm a guy
I'm looking
I look the
I'm
to put
the gulfs
and the
golfs
the gals
And at the commemoration, you said in the Politicokeye
Port-Dutte, that was a thing planned,
that you had a lot of, and it was talking to this idea
to do.
It was a great-in about talking to Coltin this
week, po, this meme
has been a many years and never
had been thought in doing a commemoration.
In what you thought,
I'll, manned this, you know, for a chance,
when I caught him.
Oh, it was, like, there was a lot
in the glory that I did,
with, now I forgets the name,
but the abena,
in a lot of,
in the middle
too,
I was a
guy more
and he said,
oh,
the person is
this guy is fine,
I'm going to
I'm going to
the leg of the
middle of
the foot,
and then,
and then,
I, like,
I,
like,
I,
after the,
he,
he's,
after the
I said,
I said,
I'll,
I'll,
know a lesson
to him to
go,
to go,
he's a car,
I said,
and when I
did the,
I,
I, opened the
the braus,
so,
and he came
so,
and he came
so,
And it was something
And also
Jamal provoked,
and then I said
I have to do
something to do that
if there's a local
there, I'm going to
have to do something
and it was that
was that's
that's
what, let's suppose
everything
what happened
just that
just this
just this
like a
it was a
thing to
take a
one thing
but I think
the form
that the people
does people
many people
that you see
there,
also the
form that I
did I think
it's that
not a
disrespeated
just was
it's a
thing I'm
I'm a
person,
I'm a
question,
I'm a
curiosity about
the casasas
like this
you're wearing
that's
you're doing
you're
maybe,
there's a
person who's
then you're
going to be
the same
and the
monsonsons
I just
I think a
jobed
very
very intelligent
yeah
of the
man's
was the
martial
Leps
Bain
that's
the company that
who could
this for me.
It was
idea of them,
but I have
many ideas
also,
I'm going to
sometimes I
see a
a good thing
that I
go and I
ask for the
artiste
if I can
use,
something like,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I'm going to
go bowling,
but generally
all the ideas
are mine,
but this
day was idea
of their
and others
also,
but I
always have
so,
I mean, the opinion for them.
And the proper
Cabo, the rapist, the
guy, the guy, he reposted the
video of the Luta,
it was a manor
being seen, and the guy
is super popular,
you know,
10s, 100s, millions
of millions of
followers, I think,
Instagram.
P, all the world
knows, everyone who
who everyone who
who knew,
who,
I with him
there,
the people
have been,
people,
have been made
many things
to him,
too,
more legal,
it's,
it,
who,
who,
who,
who,
who,
who,
who,
With a
With a
We're talking about
You were
When you were
You were asked
much this
during the
preparation for
this lot of
if there's a
climate
of vengeance
for the
Glover
I've been
I'm going to
this
year and
we know that
the government
is a
man who
being in
a problem
but there
was a
feeling
of you
did you
the guy
got got
of the
global
here in
you
was
there
got to
get a
more
to get a
more
because of
not
but I'm
not
I'm
not this
sentiment
so
of
the
The my sentiment
is like
of any friend
of the Glover,
you know?
Like,
any other
a person who's
who's trying
and the guy
and he goes
and you say,
oh,
this carrie,
this guy,
boy,
boy,
batting the car,
like,
so,
got got,
you know,
then you
get that
that's like that
nothing of
nothing to
love to
the heart
to be able to
my sentiment
was this
but not
of vengeance.
There's
there many
people
being,
there's many people
you got you got to go to raskers and the Jamal Hill
that's the fault of John Johnnichson,
some of three guys who are getting him in dispute
of Centron, NFC, right?
I've seen, basaltz, so, the people are following.
And you, you've even a,
you know, you just took up for the
peso peso, you know, to look at NFCRI, but not
not going to happen, but not yet, you're going to happen,
is a lot, but it's sufficient,
there to try a reaction to Tom Aspah,
not he, that was sitting there in the first filer,
post a photo of you two,
without
just to put the photo
of his
and you
know,
it's just
you know,
it's just
it's not
a little
the piece
into the
future in the
your
moral,
that's the
champion
interina
of the peses
and then
planting a
cementing
for a
possible
lot of
no,
this
sensation
that's
my name
it's
nobody
nobody
will get
so
people
never
so nobody
know
that's
good
that's
it's
good there
is probably
I'm
I want
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
post on the
social social
he's going to defender
on his sturtle
of his
he's still
not there
but I think it
will be
be over
of the
July of the
if you're
an idea
that you
can't
I'm
I think
to see
not so single
that is
better for me
so far
there's my
employees
I'm like
in gallo
of brigga
If someone
to put it to
a gun on
on the front of
another,
we're going to
get in a
but we're
to see what
what is the
better
for me,
for my
career,
for my
team,
so I'm
so I'm
so,
for,
for,
but I'm not
only only
only only
only so I'm
not so I'm
a lot
not specifically
for a
question of
an
question of
a game
or to play
the game
against
who can
be the
Yeah, if
If it was, I don't
I don't see
I didn't think
I didn't think of this
But with a
long, a prasal
a major,
well,
it's clear that I
would defend my
cinduance
for not to
not be a lot
because
if it's
a time
time I'm a
piece of pesed
then you can't
then come
a lesion
you can't
when I
go to defend
my
my cinturon
I don't
want to
tryvary
the
category
so
so I'm
I was
imagining
the
the best scenario there,
no,
without I
said, but I'm
with two
dead
with one of the
foot,
the two
feet are fudied,
so it's
complicated,
I don't want
to trava the
category,
no,
the middle of
the middle,
so it's a
kind of
a lot of
a lot of
pesed,
that was the
what I said
that I said,
that I said,
for the
after the
category,
and it's,
giving
a opportunity
to the
people who
can come
to come
to bring
the
cinduron.
So I
think this
this would
be a good.
You have
an idea
of when
you will be
able to
try to train
100%
you can't
have been
to make you?
No,
but here
I had
had to
two
two months
before,
the right,
the right
this here
is better
so,
so it's
for three
months,
with three
months,
it's from
a carlo
oxy,
so for
me,
to be training
so 100
would,
for the
medical,
it would
be six
seven
so many,
so
then it
were the other
now to do you.
So, but here's three
months I'm,
three months
after the lute,
I'm, I'm,
I'm trying to try
well, I'm going to
be shooting,
but I'm going to doxia-
and doing joelada,
doing all,
doing all,
I'm doing,
because I'm going to
be, boy,
it's forming the car,
and it's,
so it's still
still, it's,
but at the moment
that I don't see
pain, I,
I just don't
not going to shoot.
Yeah,
that you don't have the
fight
in the UFC Rio?
You pretend
to come to
come to
see the event
and you know
that you
know if you
go out of
the first of
the first
to try the
big
to do you
to Rhee
in the beginning
of May?
So I'm
doing some
things here
with a
work in
house too
pendent,
right,
from the
other preparation
but I don't
see if I
resolve the
things
here,
I want
to do
a pull soon
in Brazil.
Defendendant
the citoral
in your
next
a lot? Who you think you
will be ankalaev,
like everyone expects,
for being a guy who
got the Johnny Walker
there, who's got a
car, who's got a
impasse?
Or you think the pro-rashka
could so, you know
with more force
now for have been
been seen in the
night?
So, it's
difficult to say
this, but I
think I've been
postage of
the,
like, to the final
of year,
you know,
and,
I don't want to
do that.
No, I'm
not, I'm
don't want to
like,
end, I want,
I want to look,
so, I
want to be
before.
So,
maybe
it's a
he's not
not going to
be able to
be able to
because he
said,
so he said,
I'm
no say,
if he,
I've seen
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
maybe a
little of
Jamal Rio,
would be a
little bit more
to see,
to see,
in my
opinion,
I think the
Jirr
can't,
and then
then I don't
see,
and then
then he
he'd
but what time he
will be to
the two
would be able to
make a other
fight to
maybe it's
only the final
of the
year.
So it's
it's difficult
to say,
it's quite
a name,
but I think
between the
Gilles-Rasca
and the
Al-Haraebb,
but then
it doesn't
depend
of me.
I'm,
I'm
going to be
done.
The Ankalev
said to
October in
Abu Dhabi,
not just
just on
the date,
but also
we're
and we're trying to choose the local
favorable to him,
where the UFC
have been to
all the US,
and there's
who are who are
trying to make
more than what?
It's a car
complicated,
but,
I, like,
sincerely,
I have to
see what is
the better.
It's the
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
be there,
I'm trying,
but other
things,
like,
I don't,
I don't know
where it's
where it's
where it's,
where it's,
I want to
If it was better to
I'll be better
I'm going to be
but if it's
a date that I don't
want to be
not a better
for me
so I can't
I can't
I'm going to
looking at this
situation
if they'd
if you'd
be better
then it'd
be better
then for November
and then
meet with
the Master's Square
Gardener
in an event
that you
do you're
in a lot
no
with
there's
there does other
sense
yeah
I'm
I'm
I'm
a mez-in-pour, and, po, I'm
looking at least
a lot, you know,
I think you're doing a UFC in San Paul in
November, but it's fight night,
you never would have to make a deposition
in a siltron in a fight night, but
seeing all this
this, this pedigree, this
appeal, that was the commotion,
you know, I'm trying to be
doing, doing a, uh,
making a lot of New York and so,
I feel the desire to, who know where
when you know where's, it's a opportunity
to defend the Settron here?
Yeah, poor, I'm
to fight.
Where they
think I
think to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
for the question
of the question of
the question of
the time
but if you
have to
I'm going to
be able to
do that you
have a lot of
you as a
Brazilian
who defended
the centuron
in the
middle
the only
the only
the only
manna
has to
have two
two scintorons
to have
and all this
set up the
three years
and got
of various
champions
there's
the most part of
the world of
the
champion of the UFC.
Many people have you
putting there,
debating if you
are the most
Brazilian man in
the history of
the FC.
How is you
see this debate?
What's your opinion
about this?
I also don't know.
Everyone knows,
I've already
in kickboxing.
So, this time
all that I've been
in kickboxing,
I don't accompany
MMA.
Even in the MMA
even in today, I
don't accompany
much.
My business
is,
oh,
and to
do that's
stories,
to me
to make a comparison.
I have to
know of the stories
to me compare
I'm doing my
work,
and the people
who are responsible
for this
to put in
this
this
leadership or
thing of the
type,
it will depend
of them
so I'll
do my
job and
they'll
see where
I'm going to
be the
podcast,
and I'm
to share with
you,
I've got
to be the
time to be
invited to
be invited to
to be to be able to talk of Akeira Grace in Web Summit,
a Rio, an event gigantesque about technology, innovation,
that rolled in the Rio Center.
And A Quira made a palestra,
said a lot about the story of the family,
Grace, the academy of her,
her story of life and career.
So here is the integral of our conversation,
our bapap.
Kira, Grace, family, technology,
much more.
I hope that.
Good afternoon.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Many of you, many, my.
here, my friends my
students, let me get him
for you know, to be
a bit of a greato,
crazy, a legend,
Hall of Famer,
multi-campions of Jujit,
the Grappling,
if I were
about all the
credentials of her in the
lot, it's going to
end up the time,
so we'll
have to spend
time with this.
And,
and the
whole conquest that
she had
in the
tatamies and
those great
championships,
she now
now, she
now, she
a new lot,
she's,
she's,
out of the
tatamis, out of the arenas.
And, maybe
it's always
that's a cliche,
you know,
here in the
little bit more
but in the
life also,
maybe it's
maybe it's more
difficult,
not know,
I don't know.
Exactly.
People,
just,
for who
know me
know, I'm
from the family
Grace,
I'm,
many times
champion
a world,
but I think
my
major
lot of
how
the tatam
me
ensn't
to end over
the
things,
we're
we're all
we're all
we'll look at
all the
all the
Dispertado, right? Pets, put, you
have to get to
get to do this, have to do this,
this we have to do. This we have to
get to that, we're going to
get to get this lot. So, it's a lot
that you motiv
this idea, and I'm going to
get to be a medal of the order. So, it's a lot,
so, in the family, in my relationship, in the
part of this park, is, an issue,
is a new disaffirmed, for me,
that I'm a person extremely
timid, so my career as
my career as a presentator, was a
a fracceoing, but then I'm
perfectu-and, and it's it, and the life is
this, it's a lot, the time entire, for you
go evolving. You,
you've been, too many times,
after you decided to be a posentat, and
had your academy, you thought that, you'd
have had to have a challenge so great
like this, for you, who said, you know, that
had this custom of, to talk in
public, to, to be
to present, to
give to
talk about,
how you'd
imagine to your
life, I imagine
to see to
hear of a
public that's
not the public of
the world,
you know,
the public of
a group of
a school,
you're talking about,
you're going to
know, the
public who knows the
other students,
but it's a
other world, but,
it's a other world,
I'd have a,
say, like,
I'd have, say,
like,
some years,
after a
year, I've
started to show up,
because I had
panic,
and in the
time,
those cameras
like,
like,
come here, Kira,
I don't
get me, I'm
not quite,
I said,
no, no,
not it's to
me, so I'm
not,
if you
would be ligars
to make,
to do you,
not you'd
be able to
to answer,
because I
had much
I'm really
very
after I'm
a poste
as an
athlete,
I'm invited
to do a
test in
sport TV.
Poh,
you know,
you have a
car of
TV,
then I'm
so,
so I'm so
so you're so
so in the
car of the
TV
like the
how so
the public,
and then
the
fracce total
not could
say a
I'd
have to talk
to call the camera
then you
have to call
a commercial
and then
there's a
point in the
that you
think the
that the
not a terror
is that you
not a
not sure you
see you
just you've seen
this
but you can
you feel
a point
and the person
will say
you're saying
no no
commercial no
no
no commercial
no
no
not even
you're
you're
there's a
voice here you
I'm
you're
oh yeah
I'm
I'm sure
I'm
I'm
There's a Vaga?
He's, we're
We're saying, we're in Vaga?
Me, they're trying for the test,
don't have Vag?
No, it's been without
because it's been so
horrible, my test
that I was like, I
think with this in the
Cabeo, I need
to help.
I need to evolve
because now I'm
a face-branca
in this thing,
and I'm going to
do various courses.
I did course,
I did course,
the oratoria,
presence of
the palco,
of dance
to me solta
more,
because the Luta
is much more
that present
there's a lot,
I did
Curse of dance, I did a course, I did
do all, I did all over, I did
do you, I did a course, I did a course,
did a course, I'd say a course,
I'd say a course, I'd have done,
look what happened.
I was having a UFC here in the Rio of
January, and then they were
doing a program all-vivo,
all-vive, long as the FCC,
to commentar the luts.
And then the other, and then the
didn't want to participate in the program,
and they'd want to assist the UFC all-vivo.
The director me ligua,
Kira, for favor,
come to come back.
No, there's nobody to
do this?
Then I come, how so?
Come, come as,
How much?
He's, back to two hours.
I said, okay, I'm going.
I got the car,
I went to the TV.
And then I did a show
in the program,
because there I had
absorbed many
things, and
then I was contracted,
arumar one vaga for me.
Then I've got seven
years on TV.
Today I do
palestras, I
adore you talk in public.
So, so,
I still have
that person timid.
Before to enter
here, I have to
do my respiration,
I have to me
calmar,
I have to me
concentrate,
like if I
if I were
centraining for a campanato, but I
can't. It's my lot that I wince,
so it's a pressure, and it's
a question, you've got to be
from a little, you said, you
had to do that interview, because you were not a
someone quite, you were a grace, right?
You grew, with this pressure of being a
woman, grace, that not was a common
in the family, the family a pioneer,
visionary, she posted in jujitsu
for almost 100 years, but
it was a much thing masculine,
the women would be, and the women
would be in house, and you decided that, no, I
I want to pass this fest also.
I want to tell a tatami.
I want to represent the name Grace.
How is it for you this,
to keeper barriers,
of ambushes of titles,
but also to represent as
the women of your family,
the clan,
who never have a voice
as an athlete.
In my house,
was the next.
So, let me go.
I'm from the fourth generation
of the family Grace.
The first generation of
family have the
misavos,
Carlos,
like the patriarchs.
And they,
they loved
so Jiu-Jitsu
that they
were to spread
the Jiu-Jitsu
that they
did a great project
of family.
What is this project
of family?
People,
we do you
do you want to
family,
how's the
how can't
how it's
how it's,
you have to
you have a
I have one
I have three
and one
and one
I'm three and
my bisoner
said,
I'll have
going to have
two children
and my
my Tivavore
so I'm
so I'm going to
be a
family Grace
so the 30
the second
generation
all those
were guided
in this
community
in this
community
and
they're
going to
this game
and doing
this way
and they're
to do you
know that's
a lot of
this intuit to
spread out of
my story
there in
the house
the
the first
the first of
the
the champion
the
food
who
he's
the
champion
and all
there
had
there
there's
there some
there's
there
this is
this here
this here
this here
this here
no
this here no
discord
of
the
the
what you
He said, how we resolve?
The champion decides.
I said, I said, you know, we have to be champion
this family to be a voice active,
too.
I will see these passes.
So I'm inspired much in this
these games in the case, but,
but, of my Tios,
were champions, I
liked that kind of a sensation,
and I went to be adventurer
in the championships.
I, with 11 years,
I decided to start
my career as an athlete
amador, yeah,
but I just got
much of this sensation
of the victory.
And gain,
was a thing that was
a thing that was just a woman
very timid,
of a minute,
I think that was a
one of the one
I was in me
someone like,
like I'm sorry,
I'm too
can't see,
so I'm too
so I'm developing
and having this
my journey
in the course
and me discovering
as a woman
that I'm going to
evolve in the areas
that I
had been
in the various
and my
frakees
and all this
was like
I have to
look to
because when
I decided
be a lotator
in my family,
said,
Ah, Kira,
forgets.
Woman,
not is to
do this,
does other
thing.
A we're
going to be
to be sure.
It's always
so, there's
many, we're
going to be
to be sure,
we'll be
a little,
I was,
I was really,
because when
you live
in a
place,
that's talking
this to
you're talking
for you,
you're
thinking,
so I'm
this person,
that I
thought that
I was
people were
to get in
my mom, I'm
I got to get a faxed a blue,
for who know, is a faxed,
blue, rocha, marron, and black.
My mom came to a faxed
and had to parer.
She was prohibited to continue
by those my tios,
because this not would
be a way ideal for a woman.
And when I saw,
I'm going to be to parramp
but I go to
so how I do so now?
I think that I was
a little,
I was 12, 13,
years, they thought
that I would
desisting all along the
way.
But no.
I continued,
and then,
then,
when I came to
when I came to
when I came to
the most
my most
incentivators. And then it was very good. Because then we
just had, I'd have,
I'd have, into my family, the most
my main idols, me incentivizing, and
me helping to conquestate the most titles.
And when did you perceive that the jujitsu
not just a sport, and it was
an emperendiment
of the family Grace, and you saw that
you had this way to be of an
academy of success, there's hundreds
of students of the students, how is you
perceived that this was a market that you could
enter, too? The my family
my family,
I'm going to do a class of Jiu-Jitsu in
195,
or so,
in the year
my family
complete 100
years of
the insin'n
and I'm
really really
my inspiration
because I think
back when the
my vizavos
when the
vizs were in
Belain of Parah,
on Belan
in Belaan of Parah
for about of
2016,
my vizavore
was an
girl that
was a cat,
it was a lot of
like what I
do that I
do this girl?
Nobody more
because you see
when the person
she has
not has no
self-confidence
she has
a little
emotional
she's not
making the
emotion
to make sure
that's much
the moment
he entered
to the Jiu-Jitsu
he's
transformed and
started to do
the school
the family
moved to
the Rueueue
and here
not in the
decade of Jiu-Sida
let's say
dojus, we're
doing Kymourn't
Khymns
to make a
Keemissue
not,
no, I don't
want to
not I'm
not I'm
not
I'm not
was common,
and then the
boys were
started to do
the class.
They'd
take them
the house,
they'd
in the same
the tapette,
like the tapette,
like that's
the table and
call them the
people,
come here,
learn to learn
to get to
grow,
growing,
growing.
They created
the home
office
almost
years ago.
Exactly.
Yeah,
they'd
just,
they'd
come back,
when the
thing was to
get a
three meters
quadrads
in the
prae of
Flamengo
here in
in a rio,
atraise of a paddhirae,
it was aubradin
that they had
a while
during 20 years.
Imagine,
in that they
were there
all day entire
doing a
day and doing
the time,
and the
they were persistence
and they
really in the
jiu-jitsu.
In this period
of 20 years
doing a
class all over
the day,
this first
generation of
the family,
they were
to know,
I gave an
an aluno
the perfil
tal, tal,
tal,
and the
class was
so,
the
difficulties that I
had
were these
and created
a book
and then
after this
montar
a methodology
or so just
just getting
the profile
of each other
after this
is incredible
when I
study more
the story of
the family
and say that
that's
that's
that's
that they
they were
so that
they needed
they needed
to more
because
the academy
was always
in that
there was
there
there was
there
there
and the
family
with
30
children
and
there
had to
the
And they started to create the what, the
the challenges and put it on the journals.
So they'd go to the major journals of the time,
like, I'm going to see you to wince,
appear here at any hour.
Dovido,
any one of the city,
to be my son of 60 kilos.
And so, it was,
was taking a proportion of the family Grace,
it was,
it was growing, this image,
caram, that,
the great, the grace,
this, and then,
they alluged an space
really fantastic
in the Avenida Rio Branco
in the center of the city,
And there they're
an academy spectacular.
And then there were more
to 500 students,
the people more important
of the time,
trainavs jiu-dits
there, the jiu-jitsu
and the jiu-dice
came to be a moda
in the Rio de Janeiro,
and the children
were to the world
entire.
And then one of the
States
that was the Roryon
created the UFC.
So this
this, this,
this,
this is diffunded
here in the
New New Jersey,
was to
the USC,
that today
this potency
enormous,
that we've
seen the
time
entire and
all these
the
So you see that this perseverance and this, this sooing great that they had, there's a great, that they've been a business billionary. The family Grease, that's going to be, you know, that's
batting the portal to journal to doggis, today, we're doing a fairer of technology. We're just doing a fairer of technology. There's jiu-giscero, there's jiu-coferencing, there's a laudal of internet, there's all the resources of technology, which would be impencival.
Carlos Grace, O'Helio Grace,
imagining what the future
would put up
the position of the professors
and the students
today.
This is something
we have to also
understand that the other
generation,
she doesn't accept
much this part of technology
for certain things,
like in Jiu-Jitsu.
Many Tios and my
my vows,
and they'd say,
no, no,
we have to
teach here,
looking on the
eyes, we don't
can't grab.
Because then you
will be grab
to,
whoever one pass this video.
I said,
but it's good,
the people will have more
more information
and so we'll
diffunding more
even the Jujits
so they've been
this recoup
to put this in
the head to
this will be good
to get to
and for people
who don't have
this contact
because who
who is this
contact with a professor
really renomado
not so easy
not so many
there's many people
and then the
technology
comes to
you expand to
this and
today with
the platforms online
you have
many and millions
and millions
of people
but are learning jujits online.
And then you can't,
through the classes
all-vive,
test if the student
is evolving
even.
In places
more remotes,
the people are
learning the Jiu-Sys
and we are there
with a space
credence-o,
and it's very positive.
I'm very
very happy with
this, and it's
a world,
that's able.
And now,
we're also
with the question
of blockchain
into the
certification of
professors to
validate the professors
and to certify
that really
these professors
are
are not able to administer the
classes with our methodology.
So we created this certification Grace
here, we're just in the world
entire, we're just with
with various ideas,
to come to come to come to learn,
and seeing, you know,
just being, you know,
monitoring the students,
how are they're excited, if they're not
are, if they're not,
I'm here thinking
in new possibilities to
put it.
It's very weird, imagine,
that the Academy of Jujis
that used to be, you
have to be presential,
have to be one in front of the other
to train, but now
you're even more,
as a daughter of the academy,
what is you
expect for the future?
What you think?
Future will be
a professor,
of a leader of an
academy, with
a lot of technology
of the position,
you see the
expansion, you
can have an academy
in any of the planet
and you're doing
an offer to
the law to
who are the
people.
I've been
to be able to
monitor these
professors and
for you
have certain
that they're
getting the
young
the student
because it's
very long, the
person has to
get a little bit of
other, so you can go there, you re-ve the
classes, you know, you,
see the classes, you know, you're seeing
the protocol, the students can
try out of the other, so imagine. I have
students, oh, there's in Singapore,
in Taitia, that they do
online with me, and, there I can't
guide them in this
the way we think of a methodology,
in a methodology organized, you know?
You, as a lotator, had
great challenges, literally, you know,
just, you know, just went to the athletes
of more of 100 kilos, this
is a more, you think, is more difficult
you leader
as a
impreder
what was
like you
sozine
on the tatam
all?
All the
the challenges
are difficult
not a
difficult,
not a
thing is a
thing is
not a thing,
we have that
when we
have that
this is
this is
okay,
I'm a
my medal of
whatever thing,
the thing,
we do
more value
that she
has a
symbolism
enormous
and I
see this
all that I
do this, all the
I was an impredeateroer when I
I was, I was
I was used to
work on television and
then I went to
my own
my own own
academy of Jujitson
which is called Grace Core
including,
it's here in the
New New York,
I think it was
I'm going to
put a tatami,
go there, I'm
going to do
the class, and
it's all right,
go to a system
and I'm
a cardastro the
student, and
it's all right.
When you
put in practice,
people, you're
a bar of
things, and
I said,
I don't say
nothing,
I'm
a facha-branca, I'm going to study.
And then I did the same process that I did on television.
I did various courses,
I started studying, to get my
fashion. So I think I'm in a façade.
I have to evolve more, but I'm in a façadee, I'm
evolving. You see a resistance
as a leader of the team, of course you just had
your name, and had your story, but as soon
as you've seen as, as you've seen as
as, as, you felt as, as, as,
a woman, to have an academy
because it's very rare, today,
Even as in today,
to be a woman
of an academy,
a woman
leader in a
in a
only woman
of a
a new
and then
when I
when I'm
always,
it's very
very,
that the
the
women were
that the
so,
first,
then you're
a,
a good,
a good,
yeah,
but a good,
but the woman
gina,
this is the
family, the grand champion.
So, I don't, not this incentive.
Then you'd come to the part of the competitions.
When the man, I was 50,000 dollars in a champion, a woman, $2,000.
I'm a carac.
I don't to pay any of my supplementation of the months that I train.
But, so, at the same time that this, at least it dismotivate, I
I started to use as a combustible.
I said, I'm going to show that they're going to motivate.
Because in various moments, I me
seemed demotivated, too, you imagine.
You put it, you're trying to
you're not a recognition,
and you don't have a good idea,
and you're going to do a seminar
that was what,
like, as a pletleta of jujit,
it was very difficult to live
to do you, so you had to do
all, you'd have to do various seminars
in the world.
When I would do a seminar,
oh, you're a woman,
we're going to cover more
more, so you're a woman,
the people don't want to be,
because it's a ambient,
really, really,
actually, even a much
machista,
that we need to
keeprares,
but,
but, anyway,
And then we, in this process, I said,
even well,
I continue,
because when you have a
woman,
in a place,
in a place,
you inspire other
women, so today I
see a mar
of the women who
train on Jiu-Sitzo,
who are they
put on their
children,
who are super
unconfliants,
who can't
look in the
old,
have postura,
and I think
that's the
most important
of Jiu-Jitsu,
that he tries
this auto-confidence.
And then
my academy.
I've been to
my academy.
I've been six
years,
now,
it's six years
and,
And at the time, I was, I was a champion world,
I'd have been a television,
I was doing a class,
I said,
well, it's been quite
so much, I'll get a
question, I'll be an
good, I'm going to be a
academy, and it will be a success.
Then I went to do
the investors.
Nobody kissed
to invest.
Niener.
I said,
I said, car,
project, I did
do you know,
I was studying two
years,
before, I'm trying
people, like,
specialists at a
primary infancy
to do a methodology
infanto, and
did a methodology,
and did all,
I did all,
I'm doing,
I'll open.
Oh, no.
P, don't
get an investor.
And so,
my friends of Jiu-Jitsu,
not the market
financial, they'd
look and say,
it's the car.
But,
car, the Brazil
not will
not be a lot of
this.
And I'm,
Jiu-Sitso no
this.
It would do you
no heart.
It was like
a lot of the
thing.
I said, because
the Jiu-Gitzo
the people want to
pay a little
to do you
do they're just
people who
who are in
your academy,
you know,
that's all the
academy to come to
a academy
normal, right?
We did make a thing
very
differentiated
and then
this scenario
I'm like
can't be like
you're saying
can't
you know
and then
my marid
and then
he said
I'm gonna
I'll say
I'm gonna
I'll say
I'm gonna
soci
because I think
to do sozions
no need
to doce
and the
disculpa
the
people that I
know
like I'm
like I'm
I'm sure
I want a
man
with you
a face-pred
black.
Always
a
same,
the same
and then I'm going to
and I'm going to
kind of think you're really
kind of you're really
this is the differential, you're the differential
and so we're trying a public
who never thought in doing
do jiu-jitsu and that not
so identifies with the spaces
that they're going to be, they're
going to be identifiable with our space.
Well, dith and
done,
today we have
the major
academy of
the Jiu-Gitzo
of Brazil
and one of
the world.
We're getting
in one unidad
to 600
students,
in the other
unit we're
getting 200
students,
so I'm saying,
I'm talking about
we'll be
with a million
so in the
New New Year
and I
want to
so, so,
so,
so,
it was all
good,
all the difficulties
are good
to us to
do the more
to do this
we're doing
this edition
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