MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan exclusivo: KO no UFC 300, meme do Khaby, 3º cinturão e mais

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

Alex Poatan volta ao Trocação Franca ainda como campeão meio-pesado do UFC, após nocautear Jamahal Hill com requintes de crueldade cômica no UFC 300, e fala sobre a comemoração ao estilo Khaby,... se havia sentimento de vingança por Glover Teixeira, quem será o próximo rival pelo título, se enfrentaria Tom Aspinall pelo terceiro cinturão em Manchester, e muito mais. O podcast traz, ainda, a íntegra da participação de Kyra Gracie no WebSummit, que rolou no Rio de Janeiro e contou com Guilherme Cruz como moderador. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alex Pereira returns to Trocação Franca — still as the UFC light heavyweight champion — after knocking out Jamahal Hill in vicious fashion at UFC 300 to discuss the victory, his Khaby-inspired celebration, if he felt like avenging Glover Teixeira, who’s next for the LHW belt, if he’s down to fighting Tom Aspinall for a third title in Manchester, and more. The podcast also features Kyra Gracie’s talk at this week’s WebSummit in Rio de Janeiro, which was moderated by MMA Fighting’s Guilherme Cruz. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:06 the house, so Baxter, this immense, for both I, I'm going to Speller. I'm going to Chris, correspondent on the site American, on M.M.I. Faria, in the Brazil, and I'm back in this week, so, with an episode
Starting point is 00:02:15 extra of podcast, because I just about with Alex Poatan, champion, a little-pised of the FC, a grand distack, one of the great distacks the FC-300, that it was going to roll out in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So it was clear that I had to bring to you to see in the MMEFA in English, but here in audio for you to hear that I was saying about saying about it was going to win, or not the Glover, if will not be a plough of the next because he will be in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Tom Asp and Manchester, Ancalaev, in Abu Dhab, or in New York. Let me talk about with Alex Poitam about all over all over. On the other side of the line, we have Alex Poitang, a champion, me and a big posteatial Jamal Hill, defend the centauron.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Well, Atan, pleasure to start with you more one of the way. How are you, these post-lut that's, he's never, but he's back
Starting point is 00:03:10 to the moment, and the, I'm doing Laudione in the PFL. How did, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:03:17 I've been, to celebrate a little, I've been to with a kid with a class there in the Academy of the Columbia,
Starting point is 00:03:21 the club, yeah, I'm just trying to the pen, yeah? Well, I've back to
Starting point is 00:03:26 the life normal, not, man, and there didn't so, the commemoration, we'd have to do do something for these days
Starting point is 00:03:31 but I'm very happy with all the whole that happened for this bellissima victory, a bell knockout, the result of a job well, but I'll continue to those pox, and I'm going to be able to my life normal.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You were confident in the victory, obviously, I was confident in a knockout, was what you could, but you imagine why because you're so rapid, so it was your second victory more rapid in MMA, just was a little bit more demorado in that the
Starting point is 00:03:58 fight to the fight against Sriikland was so you imagine
Starting point is 00:04:01 the fight or you should or you're with the opportunity that she's
Starting point is 00:04:06 like I'm like I always said, I'm not I'm not a finalization
Starting point is 00:04:11 always prepared for the five rounds I think that me
Starting point is 00:04:14 makes more more mentally and it is what I'm what I
Starting point is 00:04:20 want and not a surprise I know that it's can't
Starting point is 00:04:24 happen we we we we're we What I'm going to do do you want to
Starting point is 00:04:28 do you have to have question a lot, about the result I want to have a good performance and I'm I'll continue do this very well
Starting point is 00:04:38 the luta it was but it happened something that not was what you expected? Something happened that you
Starting point is 00:04:44 surprised of having taken a shoot on the part of the backes there. No,
Starting point is 00:04:49 the lot was that was that was that was all the world I did even put I just
Starting point is 00:04:53 I put the most the trainings, and, boy, I've been my lute, it's basically there's
Starting point is 00:04:59 what we've been doing in the training, never trying to perfectu- there, the techniques,
Starting point is 00:05:05 and, every time, every time, that's the I've been a great experience, me dedicating much in the
Starting point is 00:05:11 many of my training. And one of the one of the lot of the most was,
Starting point is 00:05:17 immediately, actually, had that there was that the heartbeat- that the rabidim
Starting point is 00:05:20 was just, without, just, just, without, just, you know, calm, my, bro, let's continue
Starting point is 00:05:26 here, do you do? First, the shoot do you? Or was more it, but it's, but it's, no,
Starting point is 00:05:32 it's, it's, sort of, maybe of raspom there, but, but, barchey the
Starting point is 00:05:38 there, po, everybody knows, po, do you know, no, no, that's all over
Starting point is 00:05:42 for this, but, but, it's, it happens in training, because, poor,
Starting point is 00:05:47 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:05:50 so, sometimes happens so I see more than the how it's the how you take a porrada
Starting point is 00:05:57 there, then you take a point out of the way, then you say, it's going to be prejudicate and I'm focused,
Starting point is 00:06:05 you know, to dominate the lot of the lot of also, I don't know that the knockout would be in that
Starting point is 00:06:11 hour, in reality I didn't know if it's not been not but I'm focused,
Starting point is 00:06:16 so I'm so it happened. Many people people said to know what you think
Starting point is 00:06:20 how it's here this is the moment? For you you're part of Rabidim and you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:25 you're doing something that's he was doing something he's not a time, you thought it was a time
Starting point is 00:06:31 about your moment, the way, the way, the movementation of the movementation of the movement
Starting point is 00:06:37 well, not, he don't put up up to put to go and up the time to be the
Starting point is 00:06:43 time all over time, you see well, you see, I do some pass to the
Starting point is 00:06:47 past the two passes to the last the last the the better angle to to bathe. And,
Starting point is 00:06:53 po, I was doing this, and the Jamal, in some moments, he started to go back
Starting point is 00:06:56 to be in not to make, but, it's, but I'm trying the distance
Starting point is 00:07:04 there, but it's not, but I said, ah, I, I thought,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I, I'm, I, I, I, I said, that was, that's,
Starting point is 00:07:12 that's, I'm, I'm I'm proxemeer, but I'm, I'm, I was, I'm,
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm, I'm, I'm, embalo, when it's when it's when you go to pause the video,
Starting point is 00:07:21 I'm at the same distance, and I'm, not that I go there, and I'm back on the car, long in
Starting point is 00:07:26 a second. He had a moment, he could be a farce, you know, so many people say that
Starting point is 00:07:30 that's that's that's a , but I think, I'm a person, I'm suppose,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm not I'm sure, I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I don't go,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm not so, I'm not so, does something, does something there, people who, though,
Starting point is 00:07:46 I can't get a goal, and the car says, porra, it's like, go there, go there, and come around,
Starting point is 00:07:50 and it's, for me, it's for me that's a problem, you know, I'm trying, for,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I'm trying to get the other, and I'm too focused. So, sometimes when the people want the
Starting point is 00:08:00 complimenter, and I don't want to come to comeprian, I don't get to put up,
Starting point is 00:08:06 I don't know I'm not I'm not my reaction that I'm and then I do the space,
Starting point is 00:08:12 do the car to him say, he, he don't me complimenter let's go to the
Starting point is 00:08:16 little bit, I'm going to I'm going to a guy, I'm going to go to work a little to get a
Starting point is 00:08:23 moment, you can see that I'm doing this time to come in that you're going to just a
Starting point is 00:08:27 way, he's going to he said, he said to he said to he had a short, but he
Starting point is 00:08:34 had a time short, but he to movement and probably he didn't do he didn't
Starting point is 00:08:40 do it. You're he was more aggressive in the Lutra? He said much the time total, that he'd be
Starting point is 00:08:46 to try a porrata with you in back, that he would be to put up back to be in his, he never tried
Starting point is 00:08:50 on the FCC, never applied a Kappa, never applied a Koebaugh not to be back to be not back to
Starting point is 00:08:58 the way he he's not in the way he's I think the thing he was like, I'm like
Starting point is 00:09:04 to do not, the conditions that everyone says he's having to train, lesionable, for,
Starting point is 00:09:09 for five minutes, five minutes, five minutes five minutes there, is a little, it's a me
Starting point is 00:09:14 complicated. So in my thought, I thought that he would be like to do nothing, but as I'm going
Starting point is 00:09:22 moving down to he don't make this distance to do that he'd put a job, if he had been
Starting point is 00:09:29 to be a second, he would come with a question, I imagine this. But when he he had been out of the
Starting point is 00:09:37 part of the abdomen, but it was he was going to be very rapid, he was very
Starting point is 00:09:41 expert. So I don't have chance, to maybe, to he does this strategy, that I think that's what he would do you do.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So I don't paris in front of him, but I think he would be for all right. You think he was a minute a week of a
Starting point is 00:09:54 time of a provocation, to leave the similar, the consul of, while you had you put the flethe
Starting point is 00:10:01 there, he pega, he'd be in the way, but in the way, the end of an arbitor conversing with
Starting point is 00:10:06 you, and in the lot in in the position, a posture different, so? I was what I
Starting point is 00:10:13 I said if I if I had a posture different he would be to make it I don't let's just he I'm going to
Starting point is 00:10:18 get this posture so I'm a man I'm a man he'll try a porrada with him he would try a porrada with me
Starting point is 00:10:24 because I would be parrack in a prorado he would be able to be a prorado but my my game is
Starting point is 00:10:30 different different everyone is everyone is everyone is doing I'm I'm a guy I'm looking
Starting point is 00:10:35 I look the I'm to put the gulfs and the golfs the gals And at the commemoration, you said in the Politicokeye
Starting point is 00:10:43 Port-Dutte, that was a thing planned, that you had a lot of, and it was talking to this idea to do. It was a great-in about talking to Coltin this week, po, this meme has been a many years and never had been thought in doing a commemoration. In what you thought,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'll, manned this, you know, for a chance, when I caught him. Oh, it was, like, there was a lot in the glory that I did, with, now I forgets the name, but the abena, in a lot of, in the middle
Starting point is 00:11:08 too, I was a guy more and he said, oh, the person is this guy is fine, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm going to the leg of the middle of the foot, and then, and then, I, like, I,
Starting point is 00:11:19 like, I, after the, he, he's, after the I said, I said,
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'll, I'll, know a lesson to him to go, to go, he's a car, I said,
Starting point is 00:11:32 and when I did the, I, I, opened the the braus, so, and he came so,
Starting point is 00:11:35 and he came so, And it was something And also Jamal provoked, and then I said I have to do something to do that
Starting point is 00:11:45 if there's a local there, I'm going to have to do something and it was that was that's that's what, let's suppose everything
Starting point is 00:11:55 what happened just that just this just this like a it was a thing to take a
Starting point is 00:12:01 one thing but I think the form that the people does people many people that you see there,
Starting point is 00:12:06 also the form that I did I think it's that not a disrespeated just was it's a
Starting point is 00:12:12 thing I'm I'm a person, I'm a question, I'm a curiosity about the casasas
Starting point is 00:12:19 like this you're wearing that's you're doing you're maybe, there's a person who's
Starting point is 00:12:25 then you're going to be the same and the monsonsons I just I think a jobed
Starting point is 00:12:29 very very intelligent yeah of the man's was the martial Leps
Starting point is 00:12:35 Bain that's the company that who could this for me. It was idea of them, but I have
Starting point is 00:12:41 many ideas also, I'm going to sometimes I see a a good thing that I go and I
Starting point is 00:12:47 ask for the artiste if I can use, something like, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:12:53 I, I, I'm going to go bowling, but generally all the ideas are mine, but this
Starting point is 00:13:00 day was idea of their and others also, but I always have so, I mean, the opinion for them.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And the proper Cabo, the rapist, the guy, the guy, he reposted the video of the Luta, it was a manor being seen, and the guy is super popular, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:15 10s, 100s, millions of millions of followers, I think, Instagram. P, all the world knows, everyone who who everyone who who knew,
Starting point is 00:13:24 who, I with him there, the people have been, people, have been made many things
Starting point is 00:13:29 to him, too, more legal, it's, it, who, who, who,
Starting point is 00:13:34 who, who, who, who, With a With a We're talking about You were
Starting point is 00:13:38 When you were You were asked much this during the preparation for this lot of if there's a climate
Starting point is 00:13:42 of vengeance for the Glover I've been I'm going to this year and we know that
Starting point is 00:13:45 the government is a man who being in a problem but there was a feeling
Starting point is 00:13:51 of you did you the guy got got of the global here in you
Starting point is 00:13:53 was there got to get a more to get a more because of
Starting point is 00:13:59 not but I'm not I'm not this sentiment so of
Starting point is 00:14:01 the The my sentiment is like of any friend of the Glover, you know? Like, any other
Starting point is 00:14:08 a person who's who's trying and the guy and he goes and you say, oh, this carrie, this guy,
Starting point is 00:14:14 boy, boy, batting the car, like, so, got got, you know, then you
Starting point is 00:14:19 get that that's like that nothing of nothing to love to the heart to be able to my sentiment
Starting point is 00:14:25 was this but not of vengeance. There's there many people being, there's many people
Starting point is 00:14:31 you got you got to go to raskers and the Jamal Hill that's the fault of John Johnnichson, some of three guys who are getting him in dispute of Centron, NFC, right? I've seen, basaltz, so, the people are following. And you, you've even a, you know, you just took up for the peso peso, you know, to look at NFCRI, but not
Starting point is 00:14:48 not going to happen, but not yet, you're going to happen, is a lot, but it's sufficient, there to try a reaction to Tom Aspah, not he, that was sitting there in the first filer, post a photo of you two, without just to put the photo of his
Starting point is 00:15:01 and you know, it's just you know, it's just it's not a little the piece
Starting point is 00:15:06 into the future in the your moral, that's the champion interina of the peses
Starting point is 00:15:12 and then planting a cementing for a possible lot of no, this
Starting point is 00:15:17 sensation that's my name it's nobody nobody will get so
Starting point is 00:15:21 people never so nobody know that's good that's it's
Starting point is 00:15:26 good there is probably I'm I want I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:15:32 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to post on the social social he's going to defender on his sturtle
Starting point is 00:15:38 of his he's still not there but I think it will be be over of the July of the
Starting point is 00:15:45 if you're an idea that you can't I'm I think to see not so single
Starting point is 00:15:52 that is better for me so far there's my employees I'm like in gallo of brigga
Starting point is 00:15:58 If someone to put it to a gun on on the front of another, we're going to get in a but we're
Starting point is 00:16:03 to see what what is the better for me, for my career, for my team,
Starting point is 00:16:09 so I'm so I'm so, for, for, but I'm not only only only only
Starting point is 00:16:15 only so I'm not so I'm a lot not specifically for a question of an question of
Starting point is 00:16:24 a game or to play the game against who can be the Yeah, if If it was, I don't
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't see I didn't think I didn't think of this But with a long, a prasal a major, well, it's clear that I
Starting point is 00:16:39 would defend my cinduance for not to not be a lot because if it's a time time I'm a
Starting point is 00:16:45 piece of pesed then you can't then come a lesion you can't when I go to defend my
Starting point is 00:16:50 my cinturon I don't want to tryvary the category so so I'm
Starting point is 00:16:53 I was imagining the the best scenario there, no, without I said, but I'm with two
Starting point is 00:16:58 dead with one of the foot, the two feet are fudied, so it's complicated, I don't want
Starting point is 00:17:05 to trava the category, no, the middle of the middle, so it's a kind of a lot of
Starting point is 00:17:09 a lot of pesed, that was the what I said that I said, that I said, for the after the
Starting point is 00:17:17 category, and it's, giving a opportunity to the people who can come to come
Starting point is 00:17:22 to bring the cinduron. So I think this this would be a good. You have
Starting point is 00:17:26 an idea of when you will be able to try to train 100% you can't have been
Starting point is 00:17:31 to make you? No, but here I had had to two two months before,
Starting point is 00:17:36 the right, the right this here is better so, so it's for three months,
Starting point is 00:17:41 with three months, it's from a carlo oxy, so for me, to be training
Starting point is 00:17:46 so 100 would, for the medical, it would be six seven so many,
Starting point is 00:17:52 so then it were the other now to do you. So, but here's three months I'm, three months after the lute,
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm, I'm, I'm trying to try well, I'm going to be shooting, but I'm going to doxia- and doing joelada, doing all, doing all,
Starting point is 00:18:09 I'm doing, because I'm going to be, boy, it's forming the car, and it's, so it's still still, it's, but at the moment
Starting point is 00:18:17 that I don't see pain, I, I just don't not going to shoot. Yeah, that you don't have the fight in the UFC Rio?
Starting point is 00:18:22 You pretend to come to come to see the event and you know that you know if you go out of
Starting point is 00:18:26 the first of the first to try the big to do you to Rhee in the beginning of May?
Starting point is 00:18:33 So I'm doing some things here with a work in house too pendent, right,
Starting point is 00:18:39 from the other preparation but I don't see if I resolve the things here, I want
Starting point is 00:18:46 to do a pull soon in Brazil. Defendendant the citoral in your next a lot? Who you think you
Starting point is 00:18:50 will be ankalaev, like everyone expects, for being a guy who got the Johnny Walker there, who's got a car, who's got a impasse? Or you think the pro-rashka
Starting point is 00:18:58 could so, you know with more force now for have been been seen in the night? So, it's difficult to say this, but I
Starting point is 00:19:05 think I've been postage of the, like, to the final of year, you know, and, I don't want to
Starting point is 00:19:11 do that. No, I'm not, I'm don't want to like, end, I want, I want to look, so, I
Starting point is 00:19:15 want to be before. So, maybe it's a he's not not going to be able to
Starting point is 00:19:18 be able to because he said, so he said, I'm no say, if he, I've seen
Starting point is 00:19:27 some, some, some, some, some, maybe a little of Jamal Rio,
Starting point is 00:19:35 would be a little bit more to see, to see, in my opinion, I think the Jirr
Starting point is 00:19:40 can't, and then then I don't see, and then then he he'd but what time he
Starting point is 00:19:46 will be to the two would be able to make a other fight to maybe it's only the final of the
Starting point is 00:19:51 year. So it's it's difficult to say, it's quite a name, but I think between the
Starting point is 00:19:58 Gilles-Rasca and the Al-Haraebb, but then it doesn't depend of me. I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:05 I'm going to be done. The Ankalev said to October in Abu Dhabi, not just
Starting point is 00:20:11 just on the date, but also we're and we're trying to choose the local favorable to him, where the UFC have been to
Starting point is 00:20:16 all the US, and there's who are who are trying to make more than what? It's a car complicated, but,
Starting point is 00:20:26 I, like, sincerely, I have to see what is the better. It's the I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:34 I'm going to be there, I'm trying, but other things, like, I don't, I don't know
Starting point is 00:20:39 where it's where it's where it's, where it's, I want to If it was better to I'll be better I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:20:45 but if it's a date that I don't want to be not a better for me so I can't I can't I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:53 looking at this situation if they'd if you'd be better then it'd be better then for November
Starting point is 00:21:00 and then meet with the Master's Square Gardener in an event that you do you're in a lot
Starting point is 00:21:04 no with there's there does other sense yeah I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm a mez-in-pour, and, po, I'm looking at least a lot, you know, I think you're doing a UFC in San Paul in November, but it's fight night, you never would have to make a deposition in a siltron in a fight night, but
Starting point is 00:21:22 seeing all this this, this pedigree, this appeal, that was the commotion, you know, I'm trying to be doing, doing a, uh, making a lot of New York and so, I feel the desire to, who know where when you know where's, it's a opportunity
Starting point is 00:21:34 to defend the Settron here? Yeah, poor, I'm to fight. Where they think I think to I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm going to I'm going to for the question of the question of the question of the time but if you have to
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'm going to be able to do that you have a lot of you as a Brazilian who defended the centuron
Starting point is 00:21:52 in the middle the only the only the only manna has to have two
Starting point is 00:21:58 two scintorons to have and all this set up the three years and got of various champions
Starting point is 00:22:04 there's the most part of the world of the champion of the UFC. Many people have you putting there, debating if you
Starting point is 00:22:11 are the most Brazilian man in the history of the FC. How is you see this debate? What's your opinion about this?
Starting point is 00:22:21 I also don't know. Everyone knows, I've already in kickboxing. So, this time all that I've been in kickboxing, I don't accompany
Starting point is 00:22:29 MMA. Even in the MMA even in today, I don't accompany much. My business is, oh,
Starting point is 00:22:36 and to do that's stories, to me to make a comparison. I have to know of the stories to me compare
Starting point is 00:22:43 I'm doing my work, and the people who are responsible for this to put in this this
Starting point is 00:22:52 leadership or thing of the type, it will depend of them so I'll do my job and
Starting point is 00:22:58 they'll see where I'm going to be the podcast, and I'm to share with you,
Starting point is 00:23:03 I've got to be the time to be invited to be invited to to be to be able to talk of Akeira Grace in Web Summit, a Rio, an event gigantesque about technology, innovation, that rolled in the Rio Center.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And A Quira made a palestra, said a lot about the story of the family, Grace, the academy of her, her story of life and career. So here is the integral of our conversation, our bapap. Kira, Grace, family, technology, much more.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I hope that. Good afternoon. Thank you. Thank you. Many of you, many, my. here, my friends my students, let me get him for you know, to be
Starting point is 00:23:43 a bit of a greato, crazy, a legend, Hall of Famer, multi-campions of Jujit, the Grappling, if I were about all the credentials of her in the
Starting point is 00:23:51 lot, it's going to end up the time, so we'll have to spend time with this. And, and the whole conquest that
Starting point is 00:23:57 she had in the tatamies and those great championships, she now now, she now, she
Starting point is 00:24:02 a new lot, she's, she's, out of the tatamis, out of the arenas. And, maybe it's always that's a cliche,
Starting point is 00:24:08 you know, here in the little bit more but in the life also, maybe it's maybe it's more difficult,
Starting point is 00:24:14 not know, I don't know. Exactly. People, just, for who know me know, I'm
Starting point is 00:24:20 from the family Grace, I'm, many times champion a world, but I think my
Starting point is 00:24:24 major lot of how the tatam me ensn't to end over the
Starting point is 00:24:27 things, we're we're all we're all we'll look at all the all the Dispertado, right? Pets, put, you
Starting point is 00:24:34 have to get to get to do this, have to do this, this we have to do. This we have to get to that, we're going to get to get this lot. So, it's a lot that you motiv this idea, and I'm going to get to be a medal of the order. So, it's a lot,
Starting point is 00:24:55 so, in the family, in my relationship, in the part of this park, is, an issue, is a new disaffirmed, for me, that I'm a person extremely timid, so my career as my career as a presentator, was a a fracceoing, but then I'm perfectu-and, and it's it, and the life is
Starting point is 00:25:12 this, it's a lot, the time entire, for you go evolving. You, you've been, too many times, after you decided to be a posentat, and had your academy, you thought that, you'd have had to have a challenge so great like this, for you, who said, you know, that had this custom of, to talk in
Starting point is 00:25:28 public, to, to be to present, to give to talk about, how you'd imagine to your life, I imagine to see to
Starting point is 00:25:34 hear of a public that's not the public of the world, you know, the public of a group of a school,
Starting point is 00:25:40 you're talking about, you're going to know, the public who knows the other students, but it's a other world, but, it's a other world,
Starting point is 00:25:51 I'd have a, say, like, I'd have, say, like, some years, after a year, I've started to show up,
Starting point is 00:25:55 because I had panic, and in the time, those cameras like, like, come here, Kira,
Starting point is 00:25:59 I don't get me, I'm not quite, I said, no, no, not it's to me, so I'm not,
Starting point is 00:26:05 if you would be ligars to make, to do you, not you'd be able to to answer, because I
Starting point is 00:26:10 had much I'm really very after I'm a poste as an athlete, I'm invited
Starting point is 00:26:15 to do a test in sport TV. Poh, you know, you have a car of TV,
Starting point is 00:26:19 then I'm so, so I'm so so you're so so in the car of the TV like the
Starting point is 00:26:23 how so the public, and then the fracce total not could say a I'd
Starting point is 00:26:33 have to talk to call the camera then you have to call a commercial and then there's a point in the
Starting point is 00:26:38 that you think the that the not a terror is that you not a not sure you see you
Starting point is 00:26:44 just you've seen this but you can you feel a point and the person will say you're saying
Starting point is 00:26:48 no no commercial no no no commercial no no not even you're
Starting point is 00:26:51 you're there's a voice here you I'm you're oh yeah I'm I'm sure
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm I'm There's a Vaga? He's, we're We're saying, we're in Vaga? Me, they're trying for the test, don't have Vag? No, it's been without
Starting point is 00:27:06 because it's been so horrible, my test that I was like, I think with this in the Cabeo, I need to help. I need to evolve because now I'm
Starting point is 00:27:15 a face-branca in this thing, and I'm going to do various courses. I did course, I did course, the oratoria, presence of
Starting point is 00:27:21 the palco, of dance to me solta more, because the Luta is much more that present there's a lot,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I did Curse of dance, I did a course, I did do all, I did all over, I did do you, I did a course, I did a course, did a course, I'd say a course, I'd say a course, I'd have done, look what happened. I was having a UFC here in the Rio of
Starting point is 00:27:39 January, and then they were doing a program all-vivo, all-vive, long as the FCC, to commentar the luts. And then the other, and then the didn't want to participate in the program, and they'd want to assist the UFC all-vivo. The director me ligua,
Starting point is 00:27:52 Kira, for favor, come to come back. No, there's nobody to do this? Then I come, how so? Come, come as, How much? He's, back to two hours.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I said, okay, I'm going. I got the car, I went to the TV. And then I did a show in the program, because there I had absorbed many things, and
Starting point is 00:28:07 then I was contracted, arumar one vaga for me. Then I've got seven years on TV. Today I do palestras, I adore you talk in public. So, so,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I still have that person timid. Before to enter here, I have to do my respiration, I have to me calmar, I have to me
Starting point is 00:28:22 concentrate, like if I if I were centraining for a campanato, but I can't. It's my lot that I wince, so it's a pressure, and it's a question, you've got to be from a little, you said, you
Starting point is 00:28:34 had to do that interview, because you were not a someone quite, you were a grace, right? You grew, with this pressure of being a woman, grace, that not was a common in the family, the family a pioneer, visionary, she posted in jujitsu for almost 100 years, but it was a much thing masculine,
Starting point is 00:28:49 the women would be, and the women would be in house, and you decided that, no, I I want to pass this fest also. I want to tell a tatami. I want to represent the name Grace. How is it for you this, to keeper barriers, of ambushes of titles,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but also to represent as the women of your family, the clan, who never have a voice as an athlete. In my house, was the next. So, let me go.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'm from the fourth generation of the family Grace. The first generation of family have the misavos, Carlos, like the patriarchs. And they,
Starting point is 00:29:22 they loved so Jiu-Jitsu that they were to spread the Jiu-Jitsu that they did a great project of family.
Starting point is 00:29:29 What is this project of family? People, we do you do you want to family, how's the how can't
Starting point is 00:29:34 how it's how it's, you have to you have a I have one I have three and one and one
Starting point is 00:29:39 I'm three and my bisoner said, I'll have going to have two children and my my Tivavore
Starting point is 00:29:45 so I'm so I'm going to be a family Grace so the 30 the second generation all those
Starting point is 00:29:51 were guided in this community in this community and they're going to
Starting point is 00:29:56 this game and doing this way and they're to do you know that's a lot of this intuit to
Starting point is 00:30:03 spread out of my story there in the house the the first the first of the
Starting point is 00:30:09 the champion the food who he's the champion and all
Starting point is 00:30:14 there had there there's there some there's there this is
Starting point is 00:30:19 this here this here this here this here no this here no discord of
Starting point is 00:30:20 the the what you He said, how we resolve? The champion decides. I said, I said, you know, we have to be champion this family to be a voice active, too.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I will see these passes. So I'm inspired much in this these games in the case, but, but, of my Tios, were champions, I liked that kind of a sensation, and I went to be adventurer in the championships.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I, with 11 years, I decided to start my career as an athlete amador, yeah, but I just got much of this sensation of the victory. And gain,
Starting point is 00:30:51 was a thing that was a thing that was just a woman very timid, of a minute, I think that was a one of the one I was in me someone like,
Starting point is 00:30:59 like I'm sorry, I'm too can't see, so I'm too so I'm developing and having this my journey in the course
Starting point is 00:31:06 and me discovering as a woman that I'm going to evolve in the areas that I had been in the various and my
Starting point is 00:31:13 frakees and all this was like I have to look to because when I decided be a lotator
Starting point is 00:31:20 in my family, said, Ah, Kira, forgets. Woman, not is to do this, does other
Starting point is 00:31:26 thing. A we're going to be to be sure. It's always so, there's many, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:31:32 to be sure, we'll be a little, I was, I was really, because when you live in a
Starting point is 00:31:38 place, that's talking this to you're talking for you, you're thinking, so I'm
Starting point is 00:31:41 this person, that I thought that I was people were to get in my mom, I'm I got to get a faxed a blue,
Starting point is 00:31:51 for who know, is a faxed, blue, rocha, marron, and black. My mom came to a faxed and had to parer. She was prohibited to continue by those my tios, because this not would be a way ideal for a woman.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And when I saw, I'm going to be to parramp but I go to so how I do so now? I think that I was a little, I was 12, 13, years, they thought
Starting point is 00:32:10 that I would desisting all along the way. But no. I continued, and then, then, when I came to
Starting point is 00:32:16 when I came to when I came to the most my most incentivators. And then it was very good. Because then we just had, I'd have, I'd have, into my family, the most my main idols, me incentivizing, and
Starting point is 00:32:26 me helping to conquestate the most titles. And when did you perceive that the jujitsu not just a sport, and it was an emperendiment of the family Grace, and you saw that you had this way to be of an academy of success, there's hundreds of students of the students, how is you
Starting point is 00:32:42 perceived that this was a market that you could enter, too? The my family my family, I'm going to do a class of Jiu-Jitsu in 195, or so, in the year my family
Starting point is 00:32:52 complete 100 years of the insin'n and I'm really really my inspiration because I think back when the
Starting point is 00:33:00 my vizavos when the vizs were in Belain of Parah, on Belan in Belaan of Parah for about of 2016,
Starting point is 00:33:08 my vizavore was an girl that was a cat, it was a lot of like what I do that I do this girl?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Nobody more because you see when the person she has not has no self-confidence she has a little
Starting point is 00:33:21 emotional she's not making the emotion to make sure that's much the moment he entered
Starting point is 00:33:27 to the Jiu-Jitsu he's transformed and started to do the school the family moved to the Rueueue
Starting point is 00:33:32 and here not in the decade of Jiu-Sida let's say dojus, we're doing Kymourn't Khymns to make a
Starting point is 00:33:38 Keemissue not, no, I don't want to not I'm not I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:33:43 was common, and then the boys were started to do the class. They'd take them the house,
Starting point is 00:33:50 they'd in the same the tapette, like the tapette, like that's the table and call them the people,
Starting point is 00:33:55 come here, learn to learn to get to grow, growing, growing. They created the home
Starting point is 00:34:01 office almost years ago. Exactly. Yeah, they'd just, they'd
Starting point is 00:34:06 come back, when the thing was to get a three meters quadrads in the prae of
Starting point is 00:34:12 Flamengo here in in a rio, atraise of a paddhirae, it was aubradin that they had a while during 20 years.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Imagine, in that they were there all day entire doing a day and doing the time, and the
Starting point is 00:34:26 they were persistence and they really in the jiu-jitsu. In this period of 20 years doing a class all over
Starting point is 00:34:31 the day, this first generation of the family, they were to know, I gave an an aluno
Starting point is 00:34:37 the perfil tal, tal, tal, and the class was so, the difficulties that I
Starting point is 00:34:42 had were these and created a book and then after this montar a methodology
Starting point is 00:34:48 or so just just getting the profile of each other after this is incredible when I study more
Starting point is 00:34:54 the story of the family and say that that's that's that's that they they were
Starting point is 00:34:57 so that they needed they needed to more because the academy was always in that
Starting point is 00:35:03 there was there there was there there and the family with
Starting point is 00:35:07 30 children and there had to the And they started to create the what, the the challenges and put it on the journals.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So they'd go to the major journals of the time, like, I'm going to see you to wince, appear here at any hour. Dovido, any one of the city, to be my son of 60 kilos. And so, it was, was taking a proportion of the family Grace,
Starting point is 00:35:30 it was, it was growing, this image, caram, that, the great, the grace, this, and then, they alluged an space really fantastic in the Avenida Rio Branco
Starting point is 00:35:39 in the center of the city, And there they're an academy spectacular. And then there were more to 500 students, the people more important of the time, trainavs jiu-dits
Starting point is 00:35:48 there, the jiu-jitsu and the jiu-dice came to be a moda in the Rio de Janeiro, and the children were to the world entire. And then one of the
Starting point is 00:35:55 States that was the Roryon created the UFC. So this this, this, this, this is diffunded here in the
Starting point is 00:36:03 New New Jersey, was to the USC, that today this potency enormous, that we've seen the
Starting point is 00:36:08 time entire and all these the So you see that this perseverance and this, this sooing great that they had, there's a great, that they've been a business billionary. The family Grease, that's going to be, you know, that's batting the portal to journal to doggis, today, we're doing a fairer of technology. We're just doing a fairer of technology. There's jiu-giscero, there's jiu-coferencing, there's a laudal of internet, there's all the resources of technology, which would be impencival. Carlos Grace, O'Helio Grace, imagining what the future
Starting point is 00:36:41 would put up the position of the professors and the students today. This is something we have to also understand that the other generation,
Starting point is 00:36:50 she doesn't accept much this part of technology for certain things, like in Jiu-Jitsu. Many Tios and my my vows, and they'd say, no, no,
Starting point is 00:37:00 we have to teach here, looking on the eyes, we don't can't grab. Because then you will be grab to,
Starting point is 00:37:05 whoever one pass this video. I said, but it's good, the people will have more more information and so we'll diffunding more even the Jujits
Starting point is 00:37:11 so they've been this recoup to put this in the head to this will be good to get to and for people who don't have
Starting point is 00:37:20 this contact because who who is this contact with a professor really renomado not so easy not so many there's many people
Starting point is 00:37:29 and then the technology comes to you expand to this and today with the platforms online you have
Starting point is 00:37:35 many and millions and millions of people but are learning jujits online. And then you can't, through the classes all-vive, test if the student
Starting point is 00:37:41 is evolving even. In places more remotes, the people are learning the Jiu-Sys and we are there with a space
Starting point is 00:37:48 credence-o, and it's very positive. I'm very very happy with this, and it's a world, that's able. And now,
Starting point is 00:37:55 we're also with the question of blockchain into the certification of professors to validate the professors and to certify
Starting point is 00:38:02 that really these professors are are not able to administer the classes with our methodology. So we created this certification Grace here, we're just in the world entire, we're just with
Starting point is 00:38:13 with various ideas, to come to come to come to learn, and seeing, you know, just being, you know, monitoring the students, how are they're excited, if they're not are, if they're not, I'm here thinking
Starting point is 00:38:23 in new possibilities to put it. It's very weird, imagine, that the Academy of Jujis that used to be, you have to be presential, have to be one in front of the other to train, but now
Starting point is 00:38:32 you're even more, as a daughter of the academy, what is you expect for the future? What you think? Future will be a professor, of a leader of an
Starting point is 00:38:39 academy, with a lot of technology of the position, you see the expansion, you can have an academy in any of the planet and you're doing
Starting point is 00:38:46 an offer to the law to who are the people. I've been to be able to monitor these professors and
Starting point is 00:38:52 for you have certain that they're getting the young the student because it's very long, the
Starting point is 00:39:00 person has to get a little bit of other, so you can go there, you re-ve the classes, you know, you, see the classes, you know, you're seeing the protocol, the students can try out of the other, so imagine. I have students, oh, there's in Singapore,
Starting point is 00:39:14 in Taitia, that they do online with me, and, there I can't guide them in this the way we think of a methodology, in a methodology organized, you know? You, as a lotator, had great challenges, literally, you know, just, you know, just went to the athletes
Starting point is 00:39:27 of more of 100 kilos, this is a more, you think, is more difficult you leader as a impreder what was like you sozine
Starting point is 00:39:36 on the tatam all? All the the challenges are difficult not a difficult, not a
Starting point is 00:39:42 thing is a thing is not a thing, we have that when we have that this is this is
Starting point is 00:39:48 okay, I'm a my medal of whatever thing, the thing, we do more value that she
Starting point is 00:39:54 has a symbolism enormous and I see this all that I do this, all the I was an impredeateroer when I
Starting point is 00:40:02 I was, I was I was used to work on television and then I went to my own my own own academy of Jujitson which is called Grace Core
Starting point is 00:40:10 including, it's here in the New New York, I think it was I'm going to put a tatami, go there, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:40:17 the class, and it's all right, go to a system and I'm a cardastro the student, and it's all right. When you
Starting point is 00:40:23 put in practice, people, you're a bar of things, and I said, I don't say nothing, I'm
Starting point is 00:40:28 a facha-branca, I'm going to study. And then I did the same process that I did on television. I did various courses, I started studying, to get my fashion. So I think I'm in a façade. I have to evolve more, but I'm in a façadee, I'm evolving. You see a resistance as a leader of the team, of course you just had
Starting point is 00:40:46 your name, and had your story, but as soon as you've seen as, as you've seen as as, as, you felt as, as, as, a woman, to have an academy because it's very rare, today, Even as in today, to be a woman of an academy,
Starting point is 00:40:59 a woman leader in a in a only woman of a a new and then when I
Starting point is 00:41:07 when I'm always, it's very very, that the the women were that the
Starting point is 00:41:15 so, first, then you're a, a good, a good, yeah, but a good,
Starting point is 00:41:23 but the woman gina, this is the family, the grand champion. So, I don't, not this incentive. Then you'd come to the part of the competitions. When the man, I was 50,000 dollars in a champion, a woman, $2,000. I'm a carac.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I don't to pay any of my supplementation of the months that I train. But, so, at the same time that this, at least it dismotivate, I I started to use as a combustible. I said, I'm going to show that they're going to motivate. Because in various moments, I me seemed demotivated, too, you imagine. You put it, you're trying to you're not a recognition,
Starting point is 00:41:59 and you don't have a good idea, and you're going to do a seminar that was what, like, as a pletleta of jujit, it was very difficult to live to do you, so you had to do all, you'd have to do various seminars in the world.
Starting point is 00:42:09 When I would do a seminar, oh, you're a woman, we're going to cover more more, so you're a woman, the people don't want to be, because it's a ambient, really, really, actually, even a much
Starting point is 00:42:17 machista, that we need to keeprares, but, but, anyway, And then we, in this process, I said, even well, I continue,
Starting point is 00:42:24 because when you have a woman, in a place, in a place, you inspire other women, so today I see a mar of the women who
Starting point is 00:42:32 train on Jiu-Sitzo, who are they put on their children, who are super unconfliants, who can't look in the
Starting point is 00:42:40 old, have postura, and I think that's the most important of Jiu-Jitsu, that he tries this auto-confidence.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And then my academy. I've been to my academy. I've been six years, now, it's six years
Starting point is 00:42:49 and, And at the time, I was, I was a champion world, I'd have been a television, I was doing a class, I said, well, it's been quite so much, I'll get a question, I'll be an
Starting point is 00:42:57 good, I'm going to be a academy, and it will be a success. Then I went to do the investors. Nobody kissed to invest. Niener. I said,
Starting point is 00:43:05 I said, car, project, I did do you know, I was studying two years, before, I'm trying people, like, specialists at a
Starting point is 00:43:12 primary infancy to do a methodology infanto, and did a methodology, and did all, I did all, I'm doing, I'll open.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Oh, no. P, don't get an investor. And so, my friends of Jiu-Jitsu, not the market financial, they'd look and say,
Starting point is 00:43:26 it's the car. But, car, the Brazil not will not be a lot of this. And I'm, Jiu-Sitso no
Starting point is 00:43:33 this. It would do you no heart. It was like a lot of the thing. I said, because the Jiu-Gitzo
Starting point is 00:43:38 the people want to pay a little to do you do they're just people who who are in your academy, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:45 that's all the academy to come to a academy normal, right? We did make a thing very differentiated and then
Starting point is 00:43:50 this scenario I'm like can't be like you're saying can't you know and then my marid
Starting point is 00:43:56 and then he said I'm gonna I'll say I'm gonna I'll say I'm gonna soci
Starting point is 00:44:03 because I think to do sozions no need to doce and the disculpa the people that I
Starting point is 00:44:12 know like I'm like I'm I'm sure I want a man with you a face-pred
Starting point is 00:44:17 black. Always a same, the same and then I'm going to and I'm going to kind of think you're really
Starting point is 00:44:36 kind of you're really this is the differential, you're the differential and so we're trying a public who never thought in doing do jiu-jitsu and that not so identifies with the spaces that they're going to be, they're going to be identifiable with our space.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Well, dith and done, today we have the major academy of the Jiu-Gitzo of Brazil and one of
Starting point is 00:44:51 the world. We're getting in one unidad to 600 students, in the other unit we're getting 200
Starting point is 00:44:58 students, so I'm saying, I'm talking about we'll be with a million so in the New New Year and I
Starting point is 00:45:02 want to so, so, so, so, it was all good, all the difficulties are good
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