MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan fala do cinturão + Ressaca UFC SP

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

O UFC finalmente voltou a São Paulo — e sete dias depois já tem Alex Poatan disputando cinturão em Nova York. O Trocação Franca repercute o que rolou na Terra da Garoa na companhia do jornalista Laerte Viana, e traz entrevistas exclusivas com alguns destaques do UFC 295: Alex Poatan, Jessica Bate Estaca, Diego Lopes e Tabatha Ricci. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC finally returned to Sao Paulo — and now Alex Pereira is fighting for a belt seven days later in New York. Trocação Franca dissects what went down in Brazil with MMA reporter Laerte Viana, and features exclusive interviews with UFC 295 stars Alex Poatan, Jessica Andrade, Diego Lopes, and Tabatha Ricci. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, hello, I'm a minute on the 10th 14th episode

of podcast Trocacauson Franca your house about your house overmns I'm gonna I'm gonna do you know

and we're back to bathe with alex Poatan that dispute the centurand the middle postos

in 295 in this Saturday in New York but first we receive the journalist Laert and Vianna

to talk about the FC San Paulo that came back so-Vos my friend good,

all right? Thank you. First, thank you. I'm quite time and I'm in the expectation to have an opportunity,

to have a great time that we've been, walking to San Paulo after the four years, that's a career year that you know,

the fight week and a lot of people, I'm quite contact with the lootators, gravaations, it was very

very good. I, I really I think things good for we're going to talk about about this

time for the first many different, like, I've got to the UFC, San Paul, and not present. The first time there's a UFC there, and I don't I didn't feel. I'd have

that people who were in the time, covered the summer and all. First, how is the climate in the city, in the gym, because it was a week of many activities, for the GPI of Formula One, there had finals of Libertadores,

in the same day of the UFC, you'd see a climate different for having the end of the sportical, so agitado in Brazil? In San Paulo,

the hotel that I was in a lot but because of the Formula 1 I saw the people with those clothes,

those patrocina that far. Those clothes like the Vitobeofort and I'm exactly.

It's full of the, you see the same, you see the color of the kind of

the car the same, I'm really kind of the hotel of the hotel close to 10, 15

minutes, so you know, In the hotel that I was, sincerely, I didn't see climate of UFC. The guy was more focused in the Formula One, but in the hotel

of the lootators is that kind of... Exactly. That balla that you aspire in MMA, so the lootators, trainers, the team,

getting, and the fans that went to that door, to get that a farce, see if I'm trying a photo,

so, in this sense, when I was when I was the city, the people was probably and it's

exactly for this. The person I saw, I think there event, there will be Luta, will have Formula One. So,

I don't know how to have the GP of Formula One on the same final of the same, it's a certain attention of the

FC. But even so I thought that was very very focused, the public, the record of public in F.C.

South Paul. And interesting to not that with a generation new, no, no, no,

we're used to be a time, the people, there were the guys that were the guys who furor

a bowl, that we we're always he's a brinked of the public medial. This time, it was a recheated of

names talentedos, but the new generation so the public medium, not would be not being a lottation maximum or not,

public record in the UFC San Paulo, batten the Victor Belfore, Jackar, so really, I don't know quite the expectative

of the vote too, four years in the capital Paulisto, but I think the saldo was very positive

in this sense of the public to bring the event. The main expectatible for an event, I had a lot of doubt, if

it would be, to go to- get to go ahead, I'd have to get a reprimed, yeah, of four years in the FCC in San Paulo, the people

go to get, and you're going, the public of Formula 1 and of MMA is a little different, formula one, ingress is a fortune,

so I imagine that many people who went to see the Formula 1 and that could have been to have been the two,

because the time was that was more so you could be able to see, you could be the first

I, presenicee. I was to thank you. It was to have been really much emotional, I don't know, I can't imagine, I could have to pass for this in a cell of the infrecentia, yeah. I even

I, I've beenkeed with Colinthews. If it was Corinthus, in a final of Libertadores, the ultimate the last year, I would be

an exception in that final of the time. Oh, I'm a, total solidarity is the company of the

company who had to pass for this. But, well, talking to Luda, yeah, what we want to

I like to say, the first is a lot of Maladino got to Derek Lewis.

Not was that much we'd imagine that he was he was finalize and all

but he was a victory a good mustro much a much, much a serious

of not be to let's let's to get to get the main event

in Brazil the first the first of the UFC in

Brazil no and it was second yeah second yeah

yeah in January. That's exactly. He passed, he passed the car. But there was a car. He was a

great attention, now he was a traction against the Daryke Lewis that many people he thought, now he's

going to pass the car, he's finalizing, the hype, and those things. Like, how is you see this, this,

this, this, this, I, I'd, I'd, know, the guy with

a very serious, to a, a man a man- maduro, to know that can't

don't play against Derek and Lewis, but it's let's a desire, because not to you

pass more more than 20 minutes, monted on the car, normally a monted, but many

positions of montade, and not, do a cutuveled there to make the clueled to get a to get a

car, the head of Eric Lewis. I feel that's a little offensibility so, how is the

whole lecture about your letter? I think there are some points that we could

of a man to pick a man to get, we know how it's how it's going to not the main the coachator the story of the F.C.

So, in this sense, I think the question of the question of the measure, the maladio

has to have to do a force extra to control on the I think could have

been interfering also. Another thing I think influenced, Derek Lewis doesn't have in pescoce,

the guy would be so, he'd be how is how you pick in that

the the Sergei Spivak atropel him rapid. I'm a merit of Spivak, but there's a question too, these guys of

the more high-alt-level, they don't want to be able to present them those same as much. They'd be able to get to be it to

be that way, it'd be done to be done it, but maybe it's actively this position of the way to be defended, to

not, not do the costas to Maradino. So, the merit of Lills, who could, finish a casin,

tartarugin, no, offer any the type of peri, he did the sufficient, because they knew that the, you know,

not there's a game, you know, the question was to survive in the ground and to try to work for a man,

he tried to do this, while the round came in the Rode had been in those 10, 15 seconds initials, I think if

if I'm in character, it, was even in the third, that did a heart of Maladino, that observed, and then then, the same thing,

one-webored, too, the major domain, of a lot of the Peseses a episode of the FECD,

I'm in 21 minutes and 10 seconds controlling. So it's much thing. I'm quite long as

what we're in the way we're in a moment, emotion, a lot of a lot of a lot of

but for the public passionnal, I don't that the people want to see work and the

things, it's all we can see this, but when it's a question technical,

all that the context involved in this, I think he was in the way of the

security there, no He went risk, he tried, was more incisive in

the second and third, I think he perceived also also he said if I don't finalize until now, interoing,

more, but it's not now that I'm going to get a victory, and I'll guarantee the victory, so I, I,

I think the copp is a guy that's critiqued but I think, analyzing the context there, I think,

I think, did what had to be made into the circumstances that the lot was about the

I agree, I agree, the corb very full of the world the world, the problem that she was

but it made a fault there, a cuttural a bit more a bit more a little bit, a thing,

more violent, that he's very well to be to be able to be a place to

finalizations, now if it's difficult finalize the Eric Lewis, maybe a bit of

a cutovel on the car of him can can the chances of a malagin to to get a lot

he said, he said, he said, he was in the He was in front the Curris Blade again, I wanted to make this

lot with Curris Blade of New. After the he went, he said, more one way, the Cirogane that,

the point of view, the point of the point of a strategy of a career, you're a guy,

a guy is a man, so you're going to put a back back back to go back to try to try to try to

try to try to try to you ask that this performance with the critics that

came out of some other, you know, and the other, you know, what is the chance of Marladen

to get to get a prox of a roadadad? It's a question interesting because if we analyze the

ranking there, whether Syriul Vokov would be more attention than Siril Gany Maradino? Dependent

also of the intention of the UFC para from the French because we know is a

active very important for the organization, the market I think he a crack cracko

so I did even, even even has this falla very well exposed in

in the defense of quasas, I think the movementation, the technique, time and precision, I think he much acimed

the media of the I'm in the category of the pesats I think it was a lot that makes

a sense. I don't see, I don't see if would be more after the

we've seen and maladina I think kind of I'm like I'm I think

sincerely for example many people say ah it's a fire shot

eliminate of But, if the FC, also is it, the FCC who want to be a lot of,

he gained him the winner of the vencerer of a cluel, there's a question of John Jones, yeah, John Jones,

no, not, yeah, I think, the Spinal and the Pavlovich, who can get this lot,

will be a champion official. It's been very, it's socialized, I also, also,

I think, if the UFC understand that that needs to find, it's the new ones, because they

won't do a tire- a shot eliminated for Volcov, even though a good lotator,

it's maybe it's kind of the timing of the time in it. I believe

the chance is exactly this, because for the dispute of the inturoped

interino is that is it not that not, no way, not the moment,

it's between them, I don't see if the Gannet with a lot will receive

a chance direct, so he will have to be to confront someone and the

name more propitious in the moment that in the high hype

for the RFC is the is the a malladine. So, thinking for this side, I think

that there's a good chance to happen. If you're analyzing just a performance in the same, I think the way I think the way we'll

let's do more one test before that's that you can put the Alexander Vokov, which I think not would be very

competitive, because the defense of Kekas of not is of the best, or the country, or the Kirtz-Brands,

which then the whole thing that we've had the U.S. Southwomen. Exactly. I think what the

what the UFC want to do the UFC he doesn't he doesn't not even no he's no he can't

not he can't but he can facilitate the way he can make a he does make a

very exactly if he want to work the market the country

he can't have a champion piece of he's he will put a maladine

against the Zirugan or for who for the Maladino for the Maladino not that

the victory is guaranteed but it's more favorable than you put a Maladine against Curse Blaze the Maradine for Curlsbrades if he wins

he me says much he's poor it's a victory that consolidates him as a guy that's a point to be a champion but it's a risk

very great of you can't you're not the end of the world because the Maladine in the fact for me he's a little bit

he's being he's being too peser to do something to make to have to do get to do to do it with

the caraget of his and you're to be to be to worry with the balance. I think of course will be the plan of the FCC, right? He even though. He even was a little bit more pesable to this lute. He came to 107, I think the ultimate had been this preoccupation extra,

that I think the that the Maliadino has, in relation to that I also I'm very curious to see a maladino in the meio pesados, but in the scenario

realist, I think we don't see that I don't know if something something wrong in those peseses and I think he will be able to be there.

I also, I think. And in the Luta Co. the final, we've seen, the death Dura there, it was a deal with

the war with the reaction there there was a day, that's a bit it's been, it was going but it's been a lot of

it's a certain percent a silence of everyone what happened because the first round of his

was something to say to say applauded of the way thing primorosa technique

it's a really good very very great to be great to be and he

became for the end experience what is absolutely for the a

man of the I think the odds were much were six zero

six a one to I thought that he was a favorite. I thought that he was a favorite. I'd have put my money on him, but six to one, I thought I'm a little exaggerated, because the Dalby is a guy

resistant, never had been finalized, nocaughtia, a veteran who had in both victories in the FC. So I thought that it was a lot more equilada than he was painting, but even as soon

he'd like the Gabriel as a favorite and I'm inexperience, I don't know the fact of the fact of doing a common event in

house, San Paulo, the people, poor, we've seen many of stories of the lot of

the lot of the lot of emotional atrapal in some times, not see if it was

the case of Maritian I don't I'm talking with him after the but I'm think it's

a factor that influence yeah yeah, it's not do it does all the gas

when you ohp wait a wait a not I'm got to do you're to get

to the down the down the using gas with the experience there's

even influenced which was a cutveled that he did in the line of

of the cintura, ajoelada, ajoel of, a joelada, and a joelada, the end of the pasty, it'svazio what

had, and he washington, it's a lot, it's a lot of the career of any other and it's, cliche,

say, never exists, derrota, never is good, but if there a moment to happen, to happen,

there's a two-zero, two-zero, two-zero, is a talent, but calm there, there's,

there if he wins, the Daube, then he gets, he gets, he goes he he, next in the top 15. And then when

it's really more difficult for you and apparing the points. So, for me, no, it's nothing in relation

to the hype of Marretin. I think it needs to be working with time. In a moment, provo it has

been these breaches that can be explored. It's part. In general, a night, there's a placar one to Brazil.

There's good victories of Caibo-Bohal by Eduardo Rhonda, the Hurt, the Victor Petrino, so,

spectacular, the knock-out, of Elvis Brennan, the dash of box. Who most impressioned, who's the Brazilian in event? Car, the Petrino, is the name for we to

look at three victories, a bonus, a finalization, and a knockout, now a knockout with bonus. It's a guy that for me, I was talking with

Alexander, the Kinectakest, we were sitting on the last, the guy, not is me a little peser, never,

this guy is a peso, that's the size, how the size, how the time that person, how much, too new,

never new, never, never, you're, to be atletes of a level compatible now.

I think the F.C is tra S& for him with a time. But a good.

The guy is who he got a person who got a lot of a life when I came to F.

He came to the FECC with a first time. He came to Warriex Recompusted the Citouron

and got back, now, he went to the Petrion deitou didn't him.

Exactly. So, so, so, luthas both, lots of don't

don't don't don't like any barang there to get and just, no,

they're testing he a vera contra cars that's in a level of the level of the kind of

going to be going to work in a good of the lot of the Ranae and the Ranaxo 20 victories

and said, he's going going to many people asked the impact just, I think I

I'm just I'm I'm just I'm just round with that could take to any way

so it's so it's so it's so Rousousous to have to Rousse and the third was

the firstero was a Pat, not to be to reclimate not, and it's

incredible, it's a great-to-annes a good and it's a lot of the year, yeah,

I'm sure if I'm in the same never in this guy this russes also is a great-niqued

he's the he's the fifth and and correcting some other name that that's a time of this

category to 77 kilos. Well, the UFC announced after the that there can't

like, as well is expected, no, maybe, probably, and San Paulo, unfortunately,

not going to go out of this cycle, because this is a lot of the eventings in the Nordest, good,

good too, could do you do aventy a little bit but it's good but, consideringing it is a point

great, this is a point to not over it, it was to Fortaleigh- was a thought,

it was a was a natal, it was in Belain in the north was, it, felt it was there, Salvador,

came to in the past in that when you was you were doing seven events

for a year, It's a to think to in Salvador but I think in the time there was never

even if there even though a gymasio legal like to do it not that the Iberapua

be a guinea a biggint a boy, a gymas very

very well the gym Alana is modern is a very good

maracanan is a renovated but but arumum in some

it's it's in a different in a place in a the

The ginace of Gohanna was very fracco, too, too, and there event there, so it was to do you do do that do you. I thought that you'd go to visitate to back, after the

experience in January, that the interests not were very, but the ticket med was high, it was too, but not they were many, there were

many places, there were there, and also of what happened, the episode of the tourcina with Berna Moreno,

after having the arena rapidly when the lover perde, what I don't juggle, in the context that we're in

Brazil, say two hours of the morning of the gymas it's not in the United. You don't arug a Uber, no t'clock

no ardubara, via New Orleans. Bore the danger, exactly. So, so, I don't jugue, the guy

but it went and it nobody nobody would be that they would be going to be

a way, but it's not, it would be not be able to the martel, but two events I think could be,

a third event in a a car of four months. also also who don't gogit to do any event in America

of the South, oh, I'm a Voscel in Montevil in Buenos Aires Argentina a viagin

a little not in Mexico the event aquecated the market Mexican-accus the car those guys

didn't get them got back many of many Mexicans champions and not did a

event brilliant for FC at a yes considering that the first event

the year being the year the which you would would you We've

We've had some news on the second day on the second week, the first of the first semester of the year of New

New Year's not going to be it's been very 7th 191919, exactly, so I'm sure not going to

be in Brazil. If it's it's been a year to go to generally there's in May,

yeah, yeah, it's been in May, yeah, it's there's always the W.C. Yeah,

that's the Shogun in my age, It was also. It was also. Amanda Nunes, I think. Amanda Nunes, I think. It was Mike. It was a lot of.

It was a good. And then it depends on time, I think the time, I think the name is the name is cliche of the we say that we have, the major star that we have I think the UFC

will put a L. Because if we're analyzing the contexts the context, the, those contexts, the options, TRIERGRA, who

is the great name for leader a UFC 300, that is the that will call much attention, The McGregor, with this card

but I think to make a big a dispute of the centuron that's a high a lot of it depends much of time

but it depends I think I would not put it I think the Kono is a caroom it's a carto

it's it's keymard because if the UFC put more a champion on the same card

of the Magrego the champion has to gain percent of the Vennon if the Makhchev

Lut who will who will be the Kono will be millions and will have to to pay a extra for Marjavec,

that for his benefit some of his own some troughed by, then the UFC generally will maintain the tendency, that's not, that's not there

no point, that's just the show of the Kornah, but you'll need, the guys, need to do fight him,

he'll have to defend the citron, he will be still, it's difficult, not. Yeah,

because the peser, is, it, but it's, it's, but it, no,

not, and I think the UFC 300 also, in the time of Ramadan. So, so you're not

so you're not. In May, also, then, then, no. Yeah. Because the Ramadan terminate in June,

or July, yeah. In the middle of June, I think it's for the time, so, it's a defense

in house, the proper Pottaj, depends on the point you, it's both in the same card, if Poatan

will be a campion, Pottan and Pantauja, depending on the next results, yeah,

who know the maraudo, you know, maybe, you know, it's about, Yeah, exactly. It's not

I don't know is it's time the time, it's going to do you know, not it's not going to don't know,

so it's going to that's going to if we're going to be going to if it's going to be a ventonement maybe a event minor,

yeah, exactly, I don't know if you'd also, I'd say, would be to come to

come to come to come to looker, not, but I'd like to be a pener to this, the champions

and If you're in Maladine, for example, the UFC in San Paulus, a we can't think a other name, if a Maladino if a maladio had been to make sure,

no card that was a Saturday? Or, or to put someone to get a new little bit more local, can't be a new foot and the Charles

don't do you. There's nobody is available. It's difficult to get to. To carry a card for more so much you know Fight Night

is the level of fight night the level of the level of exigents has diminished but even so I think it's difficult to get a

lot of the final way to we're going to we're going to this Saturday infretting Yir and Rihri Prasca and even

the Shittara in January dispute the Cintourn too against the Rakeau Pennett Rakeau Pene in 2024

disputing the Monsoram but it's a CLE of the MECC in the reserve And you

you think we we'll start the year next next with Pauatang the next expectative with a person with a pro-hasker. I think the style favorable to

Poitam. I think the prohasker a guy very perigoso, but at the same time that he offers many risks, he is very vulnerable in the defense, we've seen he suffering against the Volkan, against the Dominiquez, against the Glover, that in the theory

everyone thought it would be the classic confront of the styles. Glover has got a 42 years, prohaska novang, very much more agile, and the Glover gave an uproroar of him in in the path, so that the the beginning of

the end of the fight was a work, he was a realtor has been the grog in play,

balancing the ground in a way of the driver, he was in a automatic entered in a car,

he was to show, he came to be a good time. We don't know, the whole lot this can't interfere. I think

that's really interfere much, but it's a factor, but I I think the casement

favorable to Potan for this sense. I think he he's he's he's exposed

much the Checo, and I think to be against a a guy that's

so precise, that's a lot of quite the time, I think the the lot of the Rassan

is a lot of the Ruezani is the Ruehattan more difficult to Pauatam by the encache than this to Roshk.

He even says that will leave a lot to the solo, but I even, I thought a fuland

but if I don't me in a lot of the Oktown of the FECC just in all the Rucca he tried

he took a counter the Gover and that he was a little he was not the the chief of his

best of his little bit more that he can't do do that's in it's a thing he will get to develop

with a total naturality, then it's a problem of isometry, cardio, I think this this is a guy very

perigose in this category, not, but I think a case, but I think it's a thing to be a lot spectacular

I remember the nightrogats that I remember the time of the course of the whole, I'm going to the mission to

cover the RISN by MMI and for various his duties of him there, infreding atletes of a level of course,

bdollum, maldonado, but the style of the car is very impugant, it's very, spectacular. If not

was the time his offastado, not know how he's not, I would give a little sororitism to him,

I tendery to believe that he he could get to the Po'atan for being a guy very

impervisive, a guy who the guy that's the guy that the guy that this style,

and the and the Poitam, unquestionable the trocaption of the car, but I think he,

at times it's a little vulnerable to get a lot of the same. The guard a basha in two-lutres.

I think this could be perigose against the guy that he takes a lot of many

impervisable but inactivity how come that's the arm of his then it's

this questionem so I'm think that the Poitan wins I don't see if will be durer without being

being being being being being, I'm going to my own, I'm the my own palpit too, I'm also, I'm going to put Pouatton

but it's what you say it's a that's a tense to assist in because of fact we're talking on the other other side

a guy also that's just like a time for Rasker also, there's many there's various highlights in

the career exactly for this, the precision that this car has also is something to

be something to be something to impression. And just to finish, Tom Aspinnell and I

Segey and Pavlovich, who you think you have this sotor interino that will be a centuron official

after. Well, this, this is a war I think I go to the maria because I

even I even said, I've talked to some talking about in off, that I think Tom

Espinel the athlete the most the new saffra of the new afasasas

the new I think this mo' this man he came, he was he was

to see that he was he was different. And the Sergei Pavelovic, for more that's a tractor zin, there's the tock of the morton in the time, I mean, we still

didn't see, I mean, it's been tested, could have a great level and not been presented by merit of his. He enters, derubes, all the world, to make a matter rapid, with exception of the Luttae, so I think a little with this question, we've seen, he's being in-pire, we've seen, very

in-pair, in-pair, a real-calti-tod, finalisador, a guy complete. The russo, the russo-n-coteer, very good in way, perigoso, but even

this question. The only response that we had about the respect of him in the question, not was good

that was to overmeree, for more that he's a lot of time, he obviously evolved very

he's going to be there also, you know, there's a question, and the Wespon there,

there's, there's a piece of, there's, there, that's, that's a kind of,

and a question, a man, more complete, and with more chances, with more options,

no leke there, to put, to, to be able to this lot. I'm

I'm going to all the whole of the point of the point of the point it's a bizarre,

not, it's a bad, there's nothing that me make me make sure to question

the capacity to him, for me, he's a great-emir, he's a really, he's a

really, he's an excellent lot-a- but, car, this Russo is a car,

he's passing over to the whole- It's a bit difficult, for me, not going to favor of him in this lot. There's a set a point

very interesting that I didn't have been thinking. The timing, this is very important in the M.A. This malucco, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's all over, he's doing a camp complete, he was a

reserve of John John's Miottik and the he, and he wasp not, he was to get to get

the serial Gandey in 2024, so, so, It can, in the theory, to get more prepared for this lute, but I,

I'm still in the talent of Tom Espin, there, because I'm the fan club of Espin here in Brazil, I'm the president. That's just.

Now we're going to see a sign on the podcast to do podcast, to make an Alex Potan, Jessica Bastaka, Diego Lops,

and Tabatahit, who are at this Saturday in New York, but, but, last, Laird, get the want to

to make a question, more once, thank you, thank you, your participation on the podcast, Thank you. Thank you. I

thank you. Reference maximum in the world of MMA. Since when I started, you were one of the guys who was in a Labuta a good time and always was a guy that I was inspired a lot, great

to participate, thank you. Thank you for the time on YouTube and the social on Instagram, yeah, Lairte Vianna on Instagram, the professional, Laert Vena Vena, and personal. And on YouTube, Laert Vianna, in the area, interviews this this week, I've got

with Poitana on, Domingo, Leradino in the second, Kaiborhali on Thursday, Glover will pass too this week in the channel, talking about ProHasco, Po-A-Lat-A-Tan, so that's a month will be very chey. Who can't do that

more, we're batting yeah 90, I think got 90,000 if you're not even ever again, but trying to get a 100,000 until the final of 2023, a mark

legal, so who can't give that moral, I'd appreciate to give me, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

thank you, thank you, but you're going to start a-in-a-gap, and then-o-reveve-comest. On the other side of the line, we have we have Alex Potan, that's the Saturday, on the 11th of November, dispute the Citadel of the Meadows of the FC.

Portaam, thank you, for your time, in this coreria, pre-luta. How is the expectation of this, for this challenge, New York, a new challenge, more a newstom, does be in your way. I'm, I'm very happy,

with everything that has been happening, with more this lot, you know, to bring this centuron, for, normally, and, car, I'm very motivated, well,

my trains are very good, and, car, I'm just I'm still the day, yeah, yeah,

before we're talking about about the thing, we've been about the whole thing on the

socials, you know, and you have been a piece on a piece on your partner,

and poor, a month's we've had, the two children, pregating a piece in you,

almost you're doing a shust, you're in case, in how you you think you

the risk major? You, to batten to your children when when you came in

house, taking a piece of this, or to get a woman when you

do the when you do a shust to get a man, but she got to be a mask,

but the mask and she a suss and it's complicated, then it's a risk, man,

it's a real, like, the people know, know, but I try to

know a little, I'm a person who's a guy and the guy's and the

guy and the guy he's about the idea and I'm, boy, this is it's a

love a it's not for me, I'm not I'm feeling well, but I'm seeing the

people who will continue doing this. And maybe there's one of the different of the

media in the social is you and you and over one preggando on

the other yeah that you did you did you know got a car

to the story of mhm yeah viral it's it's a bit for him,

for a centauron vaguer, more than a expectation of, how you're in how you see this duel? Because are two

strikers of styles different, two guys that have in the trocaation, the entire your better

arm, but are guys completely different, very aggressive, but you're a guy who has a

whole story in glory and he's a guy that's very impisible with all the golfs or gop

rodado, things that he did in the RIS before he even in the FEC, despite the

career a career cut that he had in the UFC, has already, you can't

show this style too much, how you see this look at the time, for example, the two

last time, because you, for the most having been in front of the last, he was a guy who had

a trocoation too, a guy, a guy that's a kind of a style so different

as far, so, so, I think the category, poor, I, I,

I, I, I would do I would do do do do you was what I did do you

I'm doing my food being my alimentation is really better now I'm coming

well the last last time before the last time I'm coming normal I'm talking

to you I'm coming normal so so so it's all it's all there's

there's a war yeah everyone know everyone knows of my story

the story the story the story of the prohast also that's a guy

aggressive there be a little bit of previsive, the guy, you know, where's going to come in a ball. It's not at all right,

I'm expert. I'm doing the most training there's always I'm trying to be doing some time to help me

on the time. So, I don't just training with a guy who has a style so, I'm trying with various

people, this for me does with what I know a little of the game.

And I'm doing the game and I think it comes very for me. A,

we're here at nine Lutas, a 9 days of the Lute, 8 days of Pessage, you are going to how do you?

I should be going to now 102, 103, no maximum. If the Luta was in Pesu-Mead

you, you would be able to this distance of the Lut? Now, now, 98.

These 4 kilos difference would, what would be the PES mental and the physical of have to start 4 kilos

to less today, of a day of pesages, of a day of for 4 kilos, you can't, not mean, it's a lot, but it's a lot of the time, but it's a lot of time, but it's a lot of time, I'd be a quantity of the amount, you're not, the amount of a quantity of the amount of what I'm doing now, what I'm

I'm eating now. And I'm trying even, I'm training even, the last sparring. And, boy, did all right. I'm doing too

very strong. Always, always me eating well, so now, this same period, now, today I'd be doing my

last sparrie also in the no peso, but with an little restit. So I think I would be feel a little.

Then I'd have to be preoccupied. Not just now. Not so now. more in the part of desidataation. So, today I have much muscle, there's a lot of where to try.

Lick, so I'm very well, I'm very well. Sovue for Rasker, this style of the luthas. He, as well, he, he, suffered, he went to the globe, he ended,

even in a form superendent, for finalizing on a guy, who is more a strike to get to finalize, the last year, the playoffs he could, what he did

before he did until the RISING, he was in contactes that But how do you think that's that you think he's that he

is a guy that will try to try with you in part, knowing that's your main or you're going

to try to put up to what you expect that what you see that happens in the master in

the last of the Blavit I think he I think he would try to try a poradah but if

if the thing if he would he would be put down I think these are in styles

different I think that the pro raska to start to start in pel, it's obvious, but if he

if he's if he's well, if he's been in the part in the part in he will continue car, no,

because the guy is a 100% is grappling, so I think he don't have this strategy to get to get

to put to back to than other people do. So I think he he will try something if he's

doing it is doing he will continue. But I have certain that if the thing

to put up he will try The pro rachsh gave an interview recently, talking about about your trocaation, which obviously don't have any of your story that you paid in the trocaation, but he says that in the other distilus, you don't are good,

that you don't are a good artist martial on the ground, in wrestling. This pegged you, to some way, in pre-lut? You think it's more that, maybe to put a pimentia, to try something different in the lute? I mean, you can't see this type of commentary

coming to your adversaries? In fact, not only not only, all who who've been to this form. And I'd would say it

was sincere even that's the word of what you're saying he's he'd think that's

this form because it's the people are the people are very a bit maybe maybe the

probably it would be very easy to be my back back and I'm going to

because the car not of Jiu-Gitz and but I don't know I'm

I'm evolving much so I'm I'm I'm trying to the Grover there,

try a finalization or me finalize so when the guy goes with this mind that I don't

know what, I don't see that's going to the day that we're going to you know or you think the judge

the wrestling even though you know whether you are going in these areas, it still will be

an area to you to keep to you want to the guy will try to be to be bottom

to the I will impede to knockoutial in The time, more that you have ability

for this, it's more to you know to be in the plan of A. Or, I'll, in this

battle, we'll try to try to finalize someone, get to get to someone finalizing. No,

with a possible, if you have a position very good there, where I

know where I see, where I feel very comfortable, with a risk, I will, I'll

think, in a finalization, so then you can be this, you think, you can be a work

to be a three rounds and you think you don't caltea him, how is you think that this fight? If you'd have to, the form of you are seeing this look, but I think it's that it's that she'll end. I think it's that all the lutas, I want to say from the victory. How will be, I

don't know, but I'm not ready, prepared for all right? I want to do five rounds there, and gore, and say with a victory, no questionation. But it's clear that all right, but it's that all the time

that's that's not a previsation of what will happen, but all you post you

recently in your Instagram a photo on the shirt with the two cintrons of glory behind you

how is you compare this possible conquest of the FC and champion duplo of glory

what you that will be that will have been there's a little in your question

you're more difficult to be champion dupl in FC or it was more

more complicated to be a group of glory. Yeah, difficulty, I think in all this

there's maybe it's too, who know who the people who saw the difficulties

but but being there and always said, oh, the guy not the

MMA, talk of experience and to do what I did I think that's

I think it's a good more so, you know and in kick

box too many many many difficulties and and And, boy, this, for me,

is very important, that's very difficult, that's going to be duke the champion, the war, duke champion of the UFC, car, this is, but it's been inesquessive.

It's very curious, because this UFC, he would have to the Lutonjohns with Miotic, is a UFC special, like, of 30 years of organization,

and to have the John Jones, that, for many, is the most of the time of the history of MMA, of the history, and now,

there will be in the Luton two guys that, although, even, even, have a feats

much great in the UFC, some guys that have a career a career in a

specificly. The pro rasker has many of the organization you also also have a commencing

very a meteor there, but how is being in this battle principal? More

a way, you're in New York, in the Messorsk Gardner, that is a

arena very, there is a place a lot great for the sport

of combat and do the event that makes the anniversary of 30 years of the FEC? How was for you this

promotion, yeah, yeah, that John Johnny came to the lot of principal? Yeah. I, like, I could do the lot of the preliminary. I think the maximum that I would have

do in the preliminary is what I'm what I'm going to do, in the last month, in the battle, in the problem, for me, it's, right, where it's, I have, I have a,

I have an, I have an importance, where I was where I was a champion, and having another opportunity to get more, to be in another category.

Of course, that's what you're that's a special. But I'll get there, I'm doing the first like I'm doing in the preliminary, and I'll do my better.

What's the more? What's the cost of the promotion in terms of, because we've said, the exigency to interview and all the, the routine

gets a pesada, no? No, with much, many, many, the, many,

the, more, just, Yeah, yeah many compromises, yeah, people are

seeing the whole people are seeing the media, so the people can know, care,

want to be but I can talk three times more there to be more, but I'm too,

I'm used this, and I don't let make that that's I'm accustomed with all this.

So, just to just to just to have been a story, a ligation on the

personal, the rivalities with the Sunnion, who recently infronted for the surprise of many, he ended up

putting. You can't try with the chance Strickland, how is your reaction when you saw the when you saw

what he could do to do the Sunni in five rounds there. Since the end, it's,

I said, I said, it would be very difficult for the Stricken but he showed there with the

evolution of his, and a good, a good a game has been a,

the analysis there, and everything I thought, was confirmed. I had said in the interviews before,

many people me asked him when the when the trick for to do how would this would be this would

say it was basically there was basically on what I commented. You think if he if he'd

be fronted the result would you think the Adesani maybe had subestimated he,

that in a second lot, he would maybe leaving more a serio and

winning the lot? The decision would have to make some things to do a

better to do the same way, it's a continuity there's more five

rounds, but he needs to do some some adjustments that I see, and maybe

he might he possibly he possibly can move this, but it's a

game that is difficult he he pays this game

his life all and to move to one it's a very difficult.

You can't get that this decision of his to get some years to go out of course, he said to, maybe until 2007 he'll go out, you'll talk? You think that if, if he did it do you do, it's a good decision? Because he could be able to be able to new styles, it's of time that

he needs? Or do you think it's more a bleafed of his, that he won't be so long time for, so? I think he not will be back. This is not is the reality. I think he not will be this time all, and

this is good for him, for, to be this time whole, yeah, yeah, he's going to other interviews, and so I think he's a little bit more of motivation. So, if he has something to motivate him, I think he, he'll

walk, and rapidly. You even did a poste-z-in there, saying that, maybe I'd pass a lot of box in 2007. It was more a cutucatina on him, too, or no didn't have nothing to do with him, this poche? No, we, we...

We, we... At least we... Sometimes you put, there's... Like, you see, I posted. But, por, but, por, no, post-a-

, before, you see when the Gregor with the Ford, so, so, so, so, so, I'm, so, I'm... And I'm...

I'm in the lot, I'm... I'm in the... ...and-so... fast in the car, P, po, top of box. So, I think I'm... So, I'm...

...and... ...and, you... ...and... ...and... ...and... And how Greg, I've got

to do this with a contract in the contract of the FC so I don't know the form that it was

but we're seeing that it's not impossible so it's it's what you

did what did a some a more a more a more want to it's that

I'm just that I'm that's what I'm trying to find something something that you're

can't can be can be sure you you're going to post this this pedacin and when he

found a motivation he comes to he says he did you surprise what he did see what he did you see what he

not not much because I have an analysis that I said I said I said I said

and I said and everything I said all I was what was what was what happened you know he didn't

he not he didn't with a victory, no, I don't know because, but it's so,

yeah, the lot of this form. You're seeing the lot, you're seeing what he had beencilled?

Ah, I thought, I thought, I thought, I actually, but he did more, he was,

I'm a little bit disattualized, but I think he was he was playing, he was born,

that, he was, he was, the guy, a guy, a guy, with 30 little

nothing, I, know, and then Everyone knows, you know, the Tice. And,

for, to do you know, he's a victorio, and the form that was still, you know,

and you, like a kind of, like, to see a lot of the lot of, the end of,

the end of the contract with the FFL, the John John, is a legonated

in the year of the next, maybe, probably, probably, counter the Steve Mottit,

but it really to try to try to try to come to the UFC to do

to do with a promotion and and all. It's a lot that you would you would you would be

to get the Miotit of Ingunn against the John Jones you think it does not to have

much hope to see it how is your opinion about this situation with this long John

Jones I think now this is a bit more more difficult no if this

if this happens but I think this guy losing the FTA

I think all everyone everybody goes a guy aggressive a guy was a

so it's a show a more for the guy I think it's everyone would like yeah, can't even can't even or you to imagine

or you to be a bit difficult yeah car very difficult yeah I'm up to this category now talking

the middle that was a bit more a little difficult and when the moment right I was up you was what I was

the time I had a doubt to the person maybe pesed now, but, po,

I'm too soon to to think about, you know, I'm going to imagine this courier, then the time

to get in the time to say in the moment to know. It's the year, let's go, if God

is now, with victory, I'm more more than for this lot, and now no,

I don't have the second option, or if I wince, or I'm going with more more than more than

every more than you have much more than this moment difficult

that you're living, you're giving, you're a an athlete that's a little a match a lot of

a lot of her last month she was a poor, it's a manned, and it's not, you know,

you know, you know, put a piece over the super of you, have a pressure, like,

people, people, nobody got to get a lot of people, and nobody got to puttah

this phase and discounted all the Macenzie, yeah, Coitado of the Marquette, so far her. Sofro her, to govrogy.

But it's that's the pressure of four deros in the second. It's very complicated, I'm going to three. So I don't I can't let the

quarter to happen. So I'm with more want to than ever. And, I'm in my career, this is the first

way, that I've been of three derotes consecutively, I just I just per die two times.

In the third, I always recuperable, and would have the victories. So this is a phase different in my life. It's, it's, making, think more in the

things that I have to put in priority and to better more, in the fight, I know, I know, are 20,

now are going to be 27 luts in the UFC. So I, I have to move the game,

I have to move the strategy, I have to to do make the way that I lute to surprise

my own my own adversaries, and I know that a Mackins Dere is a different

a different a vassalado about a raladoer over Angela Rius which is a moezee

a trocator not a not a lotator the chown so we see the revolution

of Markins in the so I'm so I'm prepared for all I'm prepared for all right

in these moments of reflection that you reencounter and the victories and all the way,

you're talking to do your game? Something else something else? What you're doing, what you're doing in the

octagon? You moved? There's a way that you think, the planings of career, what you did to

revert this moment? Ah, I think I'm, I'm in a phase, Guilame, that I am thinking more in me,

thinking more in my quality of life, how I have to train. This camp

and the master left in the hand of Ali, that is my

company, so Alie coordinated all the many of the training, as the

training as the Muayth and the training of sparring. I did many

training in the extreme culture with the so was a

different for me because I trained with people different

probably probably people that I can be in the front,

so it was good for me. I've many many trains with with a Tatiana also, that she helped me help in this

camp. It's very strong the wrestling of her. And the part of the trocaation

also also me also and the people were like a same same with the Markenzie

for I could be to be ready to this but I'm so, thanks

to have done this space and this opportunity to do the line to work with me

and me to be to be to be to be getting things different,

argenres different positions different, both to get to get to finalize so I think

this was the point of the camp this change this change of climate

of being in a place and now with the orientation of the master

and the and the Bruno the Markings and the Philippe go with me in all the trains so what they think can't make to move

they justica does like Jessica does this way so I've seen an accompaniment special in the camp to be in front really for this but all right for

everything that makes for what canes have to be what I'm trying with a triad that you'd have to have been to inventing a Tatiana

Suarez Look, it was different, you know, it was different, it's, you know, you have that's

like to say, ah, I, I, I'm going to me vingar now, but I

think I'm so so ton tranquill in the and the and that I don't have this

of the vignance and all I use this as a kind of a

not, a tatiana has a wrestling very good and that that I don't know

that I'm not I don't never times during the train, I passed very suffocco with her. And, like, it was a train in the difficult

the time entire. So I put in my mind that's, I was, I don't could be put to back or not could be finalize or do anything,

during the training, that I would be more than the problem to the with a MacKenz. So I used more this incentive, you know,

for me, it was very good. The Tatiana is very very d'Ura. And I I would have the people saying,

oh, I'm going to be a Chessky and a Tatiana doing a very good because the two are very

in the part technical, in the part of the part of the part of this, and it's really, I'm like,

the bitch is a big, look, really, not for the little bit of her end of her, but

oh, the bracinio, the bracinio, the bracin's, the, the, she, she's,

she's great, yeah, she's this category, she's always had many difficulty to bat this

person, and then then, you've got to do a new life of her in the diet, with Roger Rungamonkamon,

and then now she'll get the problem, she's in, she's in a final little little

she was in a chavina also, she's a more more more violent against Angela Hill.

What do you expect that she's going to you're going to this lot? Because you know, that obviously

the better the arm of her is the jiu-gitso but she she has been a

hand that she has a a trocation there. What do you think she will try

to do about her on the event on the Saturday? Well, the videos that I

assist her not the lot of the last time, but also the videos she has

put in she has been a part of wrestling with the R. C.R.

I saw she did she she did she she did probably probably probably are probably

the probably she was a thing she was a thing in the part of

the game I did also much training of force, to work

the Grand Empound. I believe that for this fight, she wants to start the lot of the time,

but I think a part of the moment that she had a man mine or she not she'd

not be not a try to go to the ground, but it is the game that

everyone does, where you have the speciality where you will be the

time, and I think maybe a, maybe a second round in

the end she wants to she wants to work more the part of the shone and we're more

make more to put up to put it by back back you know because I'm trying to the men

and I'm not, look, see the the men, and the rest, man,

it's not it's a lot of we're saying with the UFC, you know, I've got

in a time, I'm many a minute in a lot of the UFC as and you it's,

and it's, so, Tant that's that in the card principal in a paper view and you think that this thing is that

you think that's you're in things of category, you've been during much time, top five, top three in

two divisions different, you focused now on Pesopalya to stop to be pulling from one another,

right? What is the plan for the post of the post of the point? You're going to make, do you

do this year? It's a year or is diminue the rhythm, to pick with a lot of camps more, with camps more extensive, what other planishment

to be after the other work in the warthamakens? Look, this year, I've had this question of my divorce, that used free much of my

money, for account of the advocate, and pay here, pay here, so I came doing five luts,

but I think you, you made five the two for the divorce, to pay the course to pay the course. I can say,

you're difficult the situation, but this year this year and I will be more

feel more more because it's because it's because the divorce I've much

got to with an advocate here in Brazil and it is a bureaucracy

a lot and a maybe the things have been because of this

not not to my mind the heart of the lot of

the world and then do not a level is so you You tell the molly, the the Lutta could

be the was what happened with me. I was even going to be, but I gave a

moly, I'm going to end up the Lute. But I think for the year, the new

my thinking is me maintain in the category of 52 kilos. It's clear that I

need this victory now, so I will push much this victory for the

year, if I have the opportunity to do the if I have done,

but I think the UFC will do a manner out with me, I said, no, Jessica, I've got to go to her. But, but my plan is to have the opportunity to wince more two or three

luts and I'll pay the dispute of the centuron, against who were the champion, if it was against the Eli, or I know that there a, a, womaner at front, the Tatiana, a Yanchanan. It's, it,

It could be that I have a chance to have a revenge with a Lemus, also, so, so, everything can happen, but I think the strategy for the year-in-the-win is this. It's beenceer now, to return the path in the stories,

and then have two or three newtas, in the next year, to be, and how are you going to be this other than that? Well, Tamaquence. Look,

the things that I've been planning on my mind, the nights of son, that I've been I'm going to with a lot-out I don't I want to

I don't want to I'm going to do you know I'm a really difficult even more even more than being with

so I'mque so I'm so I'm knock-earty and be in the second or in third round

but I'm going to make that you just to start in the lot of the night will have

the Alex Poatam looking the Cintouron 93 you go to last you will be at your lute

a little but then will be see him in action, what your poppite for this lot?

I love much of the Poit and he is a guy very very hard, he's a man very hard, very pesate,

he's been bettering in this part of Jujits of his defense of a but in the other

other occasion the guy is impeccable no there, no, no, the prohask

he, he's, he's, fought with much, for the Glover to get a the lot,

he's, do nothing is what I say, it's the second that's It's all.

He's all he's a end up the he's a lot of but I think he's being with much a lot of want to, with a lot of a lot of court, I think he's in a category

different, third round. On the other side of the line, we're going to be Diego Lovins, that's next Saturday, the October against Pet Sabatina after a duro on UFC,

two bonus, is with a post chey, is a full of and the last and the last even better with a victory,

a finalization about the podcast how is the anxiety, the expectation for more for more than a lot,

more a car of Maneer now in New York the first was there in Newark how is

the anxiety for more a challenge for more the opportunity is the best the bestatine we're trying

been, there's been a year a lot more active for us, more specifically, in the last few months, has been a year been a year much active for me, and, po, I'm happy, I'm happy, I'm happy, for the opportunity for you to be doing,

to be my third a lot in a year, three is main card and two events numbered, so I think that this says to the so, the time, you

can be for the event, right? For sure, yeah, now, your adversary, also, it's of a good victory, a good finalization also. How is you that you guys this style of you both? You're both who are guys who want to be active

in Grapney. He, in the final of the year past, he fronted the Alex Cassellis in a lot of Grapin, he, did, various Lutters of Grapin, also, the Lema, that the last you finalized with the Triangle Voader. How is you, you think, you

think we can't expect a lot of a grapling, he purr, between you two, or it will be chances of that when you pick the two-cars, specialists of Greepin will be a lot of kickboxing? What is your expectative in this sense of how is it

the fight between you? I think it will be a lot quite a lot of complete, because I think we both have quality to annular the game one of the other on the part of the shone

so I think it also can be defined the fight on the strike what normally happens when it's sometimes when they're two gregers of high level

that happens that can't anulner the other that no has no other more than to than to get up and

say in a porrada, so it's just something that I'm doing, I'm trying to training a part of the shone, I don't do you trainer

never my Jiu-Jitsu with the people who are in my academy, some friends my and the part the box, that is the

fort here of Mexico, which is where I'm a lot of the box also with my coach Francisco

Graso, so, we're, we're very we're very emulsed for any about any

scenario When you study an adversary that also does the military For example, we have you know, in the final of the year he did a month of the past did a month of grappling, you do this lot of grappling,

you study what he does in this lute or for not not be m m m.m. I don't lead in consideration. Because, he might even try a thing in that but no exists a stucle of a lot,

something, so he doesn't he don't jogs in the same manner, or not, so you, do you leave in consideration, this? So, it's even it's even though

I'm even though the lute of grappling, not you're in a fcccce fight pass, in the floor grapple and in the event, so that's always I'm always I'm trying

I'm going to it's a little it was something I was actually the event that he's not with Alex Carcerys and I said

ah poe those guys are the two guys are the team are in my category I'm still I'm gonna I'll give a

look at a yeah I'm I remember this malucco man I remember that he did a lot of he did a

look at a yeah be sure he's this job so so and so and so and And then, after seeing the LUT of MMA,

what he does is adapt to nothing more than than the same thing he does do you know, so we're in, we're doing,

we're doing, we're doing, and we're ready, is ready, you're doing, because he, he,

he's, we've been most of the quality of the we've been in the jiu-git, in the group, also,

you remember what was your reaction when you asked when you did you know to F.C. that would be

going to you were in front of the So are two guys of the FC. I'll see here. When he finalized the Kassnery. What you thought? What you thought of the performance of his?

No, I said, P, it's a guy good. It's a guy who's active in Jitsu, too. There's good transitions. You know what does in the past of the ground,

so I think, I, for me myself, I think it would be a good opportunity more in the front to do a lot to do it

to get up. It was what I had, like, because I was out of the events of the UFC has pass

pacivational, this event that he looked an event that's always are going other lotators to

to do you I'm at I'm a really a person who I'm a really that's so you

could get a lot of a grapel for me when I don't when I'm when I'm I'm gonna

do a lot of I'm gonna do you I'm gonna but then not other reason we don't

not not not not like not like a lot of a event so so so car

and now now you are being it's been it's been yeah I'm having

the car to look this Lutate Grappling, and now, we have an opportunity to to make a lot of MMA in the FC, and it's da-a-da-a-da-hore. Who's it, you know, go to a dobrook, and then

then it's front it in the Grapin, finally? Yeah, this would be a good lot, that's, car, for me, I'm always I'm open to all, you know, if the UFC, liberate, you, too, without no problem, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm ready, I'm ready, you're feel, you feel like, you

feel like, you know, because in the year, last year, you did a year, yeah, with the FC, the agenda chia, not could have a chance not you're going to do you feel like to

do you know, because I'm a guy that's from my six years, I'm always have competed in jujitsu, I always have to

keep hikyto, and I see, with kimono, without kimono. In a year, I competed at minimum 10 tournaments in the year.

So I think I always I always very active in the part of Grape and even my career

to MMA also, before before after getting to the FC, I was active I was a minimum three,

four times in a year also was with kimono or without kimono. So this year, I want to see also the possibility, of course,

in the last seven months have been a lot of all, it's been a lot of been a lot of, so I don't have been a opportunity to look.

I would have made a lot of Grappel in a event in Houston, in Terras, after my fight, against, specifically this

Movisar, I would have a, I would have a lot with him, but the guys, after the the other with the

MOUVSA, the guys were me offered me offer to a grap. I was I'm going

to do that so that's my lot of my lot to I would be a fight the guy would get some

the guy would be a MMA but the man who an event local I'd say

a guy that's good also also but I saw my my lot to

to do with with the we can't just not can't get

to not we're we we're we're we're we're

also, in account that the UFC always the UFC fight pass institutional, so I'm

also have a opportunity to play in a event of them, I like really, it's a

sport that I do all the days, if I don't do my training of Jiuits on the day,

I don't be happy with this, so, it's what I want, so I'm trying to

be able to do you play a and make a group. And who who can not

accompany the situation don't you know when you say that you were that you

did you 10 luts. It can be 20, 30, 40 is a lot of the year. Yeah, yeah, even more because

I'm just I'm of a category in Jiu-Jitsu that's always a minimum 15 car script, you know? So I always

had three, four, four, a tournament, yeah, if it would be to be a

champion, and the other the absolute, because I would have to enter in those absolute

too, so I think that, we're, we're, we're talking to, we're talking,

not, in the part of Jitsu, and it's been been so to me also that

in this campament specific coincidial that I left two students to to learn

to learn to learn to learn in the city of the city of where I saw that I

didn't so that I bought a I could get a to get to my employee

my you're going to do you do not the month and I'm I'm going to I'm going to

manal whether I I'm what I do, you know? So, when he said, I said, no,

I'm going to think two times, I'm to go to my mom, my father, my friend, my friend,

my friend, who are all fashapretta Jiu-Jitsu, and, and, too, I'm also I'm gonna

have two men, who are Alex Soddry and the two brothers, guys,

are two men, men, men, in Abu Dhab, Pan American, all, and the

guys are just just right the person, you, the person, the, the, the biotip

the guy that I will look to, so, it was two two weeks with a guy of Jiu-Gitzo of the most

high-nive, you know, the most high-nive, so, in the Jiu-Sit-Soo, training with me. So,

po, car, could be something, it was something, it was a lot of my head more even, because you

know that to do Jiu-Sit-o with a guy who is competitive, who is competitive in the area of

J-GITS, is completely different, than you to do you do J-Gis with a guy who

to do you The head abried it's a bit happy for this opportunity I've been very this opportunity

I'm in a point in a moment perfect because it's a type of game that you need to make you feel like the difference

to you go to the places most of the world in the jiu jihits but far as the world in the jiu jihits

because I imagine that in Mexico you need have been alunns of jiu jiuids that are good there, there have comeoers

of the MMA that has a but I imagine that not you can't not you can't be to Manals, you're

going to do you guys that just do Jiu-Gitz there's guys are black who are in the scenario of Jiu-Gitz in the circuit like, how you see these differences

that you sent you in the Pell and in the your technique going to a lot that probably will be the divisor of the Jiu-Gitzo is your code of his

against him. Yes, yes, I think it was completely different, so I was just I could see this because with

the two the other than the other than I left to to Lutte to Manas, I also could leave my team with me because I'm a guy that's going

being all the team have to be well, I think to be in this year, but that I'm invested in my career.

And as I'm investing in my career, having the people who have been in the people who can be able to

all the people who are when they're when they're when I'm when I'm you're going to you, you

go, you, go, go to because I need to train and you're those guys are the people

so you're so I'm I'm going to everybody, we're in the menhuisks, we went six guys from

the Mexico to my house, in my house of my mom and then came those two friends

my of Manals and also also had my mom, my father, my prime we were a team

more of 12 to 15 people, all the Fache Preta all the allus

Fache Preta and my students are Fash Marron to back back sent

the difference of training with people of this level, you know, sent the difference, they said, they said, they're saying,

Professor, the level here is completely different than than we've been different than we, and they've seen a people,

and we've seen, and we're doing the same thing that we do this with them, with the thing,

so it's completely different. I think this level about our level these two weeks, and,

poor, I had, I needed of this. I needed to, I needed to, because it's,

make a train specific so it's, if it was some times to visit my family and so, but not to do a train

specific for this, you know? So I think that we know the difference of the level, we know the difference of the

number, we know the it's a polo for me, not because I'm not because I'm not the polo the hivis,

so there's always been set up various champions world, so, man, it was very

great, for my team of Mexico to train with me, Guaya, in Brazil in Manals

but then. and to show to them what is what is he needs to do more the level of them, because they've seen how the

guys train, saw how the idea of the guys, and they've got to be a mentality to back.

Until then when we trained on the days here, it was training to make, because they were with this

mentality after that. After all this camp you made focused, especially in this,

he's, he made, he was, he's two-thirds of his victories of his were

for finalization, he you know, you know, to have this gohton to him to have to bat, you know, we can't, you know, I think you can't, you know, I think, I can't live a little of advantage in this part, because I'm a guy that I can't finalize in any position,

just turning for back, turning on, or in a part of a movementation, I'm a guy who's always trying the finalization, so I think that I'm where I can't surprise him, but I know, but I know that he's a guy that's a guy who's defend very well, so I think this shock of Jiu-Jitza, will be very good,

will be something that I have worked on just on this, rusted in time of this. As I'm trying, I've been doing,

I've been with two guys who are the men who are not a lot in the training so I think I'm ready

I'm ready to try the world more one once a way, to give this this

this, that the first of the first he made with all the finalization that he

took, not was a casualization So I think I'm ready to make very clear that I am a strong candidate to be in

the top 10, top 15, top 10 and top 5 of the division in the next year. The other side of the line again, Tava Tahrit, that on the day

11th of October of the FEC against Lupita Gaudinez to continue embalad in the FECA in the in the future in the second Vita Vita

Zavada, well, welcome to the podcast, how is the anxiety to say in the hand

to say in October. First, thank you for the invite again. It's a a pleasure, always

talking with you. Well, the final of camp is now, so on a lot of quite of weight of time, but it's going well,

but you're going to be the third year old of this year, the first of you, the first of the first of the first of the

most of the time, you know, the first, a Jillian-Robesson, which is a other, veteran-somenis, and very

experience, how is, how is you prepared, so, so, the, a Lupita,

who also came in a UFC, finalized the last the last year, it's been in a quarter a lot of the year, how can't

how you see this is your moment, like, in the F.C. I'm, I'm an athlete very active,

for me, the more I'm more for me, because this is my style of video, I think I

think I'm always I'm in training camp, because, you know, you know, are training

is what I am doing, so, I'm I feel that I see that every camp that I pass, I am I'm better more, and I'm something different about me, or about

my team, and we're always are so much important. So this is very important. So as a lot of the world is, and my body is, I don't have any of a lot, mentally, physically, so I just am, I

just I'm courting with the process, and, you know, the more than the more, it's better for me. You think the prova of this is a great moment of the FC, other victories, is the UFC to see with other eyes, because if you were looking at the cards that you did part, for not only the cards great this year, if you did all the same card of John Jones in March,

was in the case of the ABC, which is a card important there in the United, the TV-aberted, and now it would be again in the card of John, but it was going to be the card of Poat-Tam, a card in the Messrs. It's probably one of the worst part of the UFC does all the year in November, in New York, How can you see this moment,

of reconciment of of the organization to be in the work to be present in the car which knows that will have been very attention? I think that maybe they

recognize my work, always very focused and I'm always always do the better of me in the LUT so I was very

very happy for this recognition by the UFC and for the fans, because the more fans you have more of the

if you're They've played in the events major, I believe. So I'm very very happy to be with the potan, he's doing dispute of the cintura,

so it's being very cool, presential card with him too, it's a bit of you to see in this position because you

took in MMA much time back for 10 years, but were two luts there, and then it just

brought in 2020, but in two years you went in three years, you went to your start,

for Valé, you know, where you went to go to the title of the future in this moral,

with all this hype. Very good for me. This parada that I took a great,

I think, in my game of grappling, because I could me dedicate 100%

in Jiu-Gitz and I compete in tournaments very in California to talk the world.

So, I came profusuan or a art martial, which is very important in my game. So it was very important for me.

And going with with all when I went to do. So I think this came to me helping me help much, I believe in the M.M.

A Lupita, in the last month of her, it was going to go to her Jiu-Gis to try with you?

You think in this lot she will do all to do all to to avoid to to go to you? Look,

I think she is a lotator that has a lotator that's In this level, I respect a part ethic of her

of training, she has always a lot, has been a heart, has been a lot of a lotator very good, and I think in this level, now in the ranking, I or she, I, or she's going to carer

people of the same level, or the better than we, it's, does part of the game, and I think she, I'm a jihitsu, very legal, she

came also, the wrestling, and the boxing. I don't know, but, what she will do she's a little, a

athlete who been training all the but I'm ready to work to work on to get in bed, push on,

wrestling, it's m-eming so we're to be able to do that. And how is you think that's the

life? How is you get that this look? I'll have a knockout and finalization.

You're in the 10 place in the rank that's getting someone behind of

you, but I imagine that this victory you put to work on

the other to the but I think sure that you will be going to get to

get in front of a little scenario for you start the year for you can't with a new year with a lot of a other way,

me give a projection or or a question of the challenge, it is a thing that you want to be

a lotator to be a other, I'm not, I believe that to be a champion we will

have been going to get to all the whole world, end end year, I'm

I'm I'm going to be not going to now that I'm going to be in February or March the most

the first time I'm going to like I'm going to like I'm going to I'm going to I think the more I'm adding, I'm adding to

my game, I'm getting technically, mentally mentally, me preparing more. So I'm just procuro

to look more more, as the more I could and who, who never never said no for a

lot to a FC and I I believe that, as I said, we'll have to to fight everyone, so, so, okay one, it's the first victories were counter-Brazilers, and it's kind of a lot of way to avoid,

I know, I know, so that the doctor-brisleer, when he's going to confronter because it's difficult for us to get there, it's a funnilla much to get there, so I'm going to front-trap, like if you were taking a friender, but you're still, but in this division, practically impossible,

if you were to front, the 10 people are in your front, immediately, the six as soon as you, are Brazilian, So it's almost impossible that you don't have to confront a Brazilian, it's a much probably in the next.

It's very probable that the next lot of your will be against a country. So, no, there's no way to

this type of this type of this type of not. I don't want to my country, but what we can't do

what we can do you can't do you're doing this division, not, do what? Well, this is good

that we show we show us we're both lotators, yeah. The Brazil there are

many lotadores, very good, not just as in the part feminine,

but as the masculine, too, and how are you know, the top of the division today.

There's a troyd the last time against the mandalayam, which was very well, you see

someone to get her or you think that a future possible, so far, sobering,

she'll get there, she's over on the top of the division. A Willie? Yes. I think

the next the next adversary, maybe she would be a y'an, which would another

Chinese that's that's the I think to the dispute the title

and after she I think that Tatiana would would be the title shot

would be a start to put the contuade that she

has a great chance against the against the

but I think the Elie is a lot lotator a

lotator and she she was much that she Amandaemus really had

a advantage but a way he he was made she's a much more complete,

she's she's able to be able the game not just as like the but also in the part

mentally I'm I can't get a good the other ganges in the division of

that's my division that's she's back to talk I'm in the

two years in the making the two RANZ the last the last the last time

the car of the her. I think it's a good, I know that our

division is a bad be mixed yeah, yeah, you're doing about

to see the yeah, this is very legal. I believe that this Luta will be

very a bad staca a man very very hard. A Mackins,

he, as you know, when you know, the last a game a

game a game on the part of the jiu-gitzo very affi-a- so

I think be interesting this Lutta. The other the event will have

the Brazilian the Tupon for a Rasker, the sitoron Vaghan, a lot of all in a

little about going to see what you think you're doing this this event? Ah, with the

energy, all the jugator Mipotan, a person marvellousouser, a person is a old,

and the edd, so it's very legal the energy that's the same of the lot,

all much known all much and pot, putt, and putt in the cinturon, so I think be a vibe

very good, and I'm sure that he will get to be a lot of how you're in a person, it's a

curiosity that I have a athlete that you who's a athlete who that's that's a bit,

the vesp, the night, after the past, or it's a tranquil, so, the main

tranquill, in the very real no, I'm no dishyatt I'm doing just a diet,

now during a month. For this week, that's the second, I'll take a lot of the week I'm going to diminish the

water, and even controlling the food, I'm a sauna every day, to relaxer, to relaxer, and it's able

on the person. It's very, very tranquil for me. And how is... Passed the phomom is normal.

Ah, is normal, I imagine that there's very sufferingment so, so physical, you're

not, in the Messon Square Garden in the vespite of the pastime of his my husband, Colin Lodge to do you not be in the box

so faring there's going to be in the lot with him. With him with him but I'm going to go to be

on the pesage of him I think it will be be very good see he being going to

this fight week yeah he's very very good 0 no box he has he has the

support of Danawit no he does have been patrocine the

Patrocine of Danaw of the whiskey of banana, right, he's like the way, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, what the palpite for, for the

put, he's a character, he's sinister, sinister, so, so much

really, very, so, we're, we're, we're training, we're, we're,

he's really really, he's really, he's a man, to make, to the world,

the M.A. in the future? Oh, no, they're only, he,

he, he, boxing. He just luta boxing, train him because he is good, but he, the sonno, he wants to do not make him.

He never accompany much the boxing, nothing he does because he is good, but he wants to enter in the MMA. He trains much with Tony Forks, he's very friends,

so he's always helping Tony in the camp, drinking there, a little of jivis, but I think he futurely he will enter for MN, same.

With the name that he's doing the partner with the night is that he is the clear the

he's a end up in a show he's or go to see a sure the Anahe him. With him.

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