MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan: Israel Adesanya 'Sabe Que Eu Sou Diferente'

Episode Date: July 13, 2022

Alex Poatan carimbou a chance ao cinturão dos médios do UFC com um nocaute diante de Sean Strickland em Las Vegas, e volta ao Trocação Franca para destrinchar o atropelo e analisar tudo sobre o duelo com Israel Adesanya, seu velho rival dos tempos do kickboxing. O podcast conversa também com Douglas Lima, ex-campeão do Bellator que encara Jason Jackson na próxima semana, e Herbert Burns, que luta sábado no UFC Long Island. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alex Pereira secured a shot at the UFC middleweight belt with a knockout of Sean Strickland at UFC 276. Now he returns to Trocação Franca to break down the win and his upcoming clash with his old rival Israel Adesanya. The podcast also welcomes former Bellator champion Douglas Lima ahead of his bout with Jason Jackson on July 22, and Herbert Burns, who weighs in on his UFC Long Island fight with Bill Algeo. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in Brazil, and I'ma Wattah, in this quarter year of Belator, who tries to return to the way of

the victory against Jason Jackson on the day 22 of July, but he's the next next year.

But before to talk with him, the MADD of the FECC against Israel Alessania to knock out knockoutier Shans Trichens in the beginning in Las Vegas. All right, my friend.

Welcome, more one way, the podcast, and praise for the victory myuskla. Pugh, man, thank you. It was a great lute, a great victory. P, all in the expected, not I don't know how it would

but it was a great victory. What the balance? What you did do? You'd expect, it? Of course, there was the plan to knockoutia him, but I thought

that would be so so he would be able to get to get in a round you'd have been

I'm in a single I'm in I'm always work there's three rounds are three rounds

so we're going to be prepared for this but we know the power of the power of

what I have most trying at any moment it can I'm I've been

knockout my adversary but I don't I'm not I'm up very to

all the other the we've been doing, knockoutianing, I'd like to make this three or five rounds, and it was what I thought. what I was thinking, and it was what I planned was. But we knew that the knockoutes could come at any moment. Yeah, yeah, I said this in all the interviews, and this was my

plans, even. And, until the moment I'm there, car, I'm doing this, the goalps there, well, being put in, to put it, without putting much,

without much force, was what I was doing, but, well, we have to have to have a moment, so I can't connect a man

good, and I took a hand boe, and I took a cerege of Boa, I've got the bonus of performance these $50,000 that's $5,50

is a marvelous, it's a great-bye very-vind, what is the plan for this bonus is to guard, for the future, or to gastre

to Marcan? No, there no, no, no, I don't gas to get anything, I'm going to, I'm going,

who gets a lot, and, the bonus, I think, I think, everyone, with bonus, right?

Even the guys more remunerated, I think this is very important. Logic, the question

of the value, the grant, that for me will be help me help. But there people

in the middle there, 50,000 not would say, not would say, not

not, but so the fact of to have this bonus is to know that

he did something that he was what I think that was something

they recognized. So, this for me is very important. And the value, too, and the value, too. And about, about the lot of the whole lot of the people imagined, poe, what the trick we would have to do, before the lute, saying, no, that he would try a porrotho with you, that's your trocaption

not so good, but I thought that, maybe the guy's just finginginging that, that in the time of the lute, he would want to be to put up to back, but the strategy of his was, to try a porrada with you, he was a bull to

try a corral with you, or you know didn't give alternatives to him? I think maybe the other

was too he not got to get in the part in that he would try to try to

what was the strategy that he tried against you? I just I just in mind since when

when the war, I'm always said in the interview and that's that's a strike,

I'm going to throw a porrada but I would I'd be in wanting to put me

to put to be time, not it didn't do time and many people, today I've

said I'm referring to this, oh, the guy was a poor, did a

game, did a good, for me, car, if you see, the

other again, for many people, maybe a other lotator that says

that's, it's a guy that's not well, if he'd see my last, my

last, my last, my last, my last and I'm like, boy, the guy didn't want

to get to go out of back. I'll say to you, I'm not, another person

to think of this way, a person, a commentar- a commentarist, you, you'd talk this

part of a other, but I'm saying, this, so-co-cate- of this guy, because in this

situation that I'd and the guy, can, do you, do you, do that

to put to to be, to be, to be out of time, you know, of the distance, I left him without the time

without, I moved the time all over, to the front, to the last, and never I never

didn't, I never came to be in the front of him, he's a character, is a guy experienced,

that he he could learn this, right, of fact, that I don't give this chance

for him, for the experience that he had, he could have to understand, but he

had to me macho a little, he would be I would have more can't be more

can't be but I accepted the I didn't I don't know to go out of him, he said he said he talked to work

but he but I'm sure that in the moment at the time the time he put down to

but the time I don't I don't I didn't get it was a bigotry

that you got caught a guy a car on top one time and won't get so

rapidly he's but it's impressioned or got a bonus, but apparently not impressioned the Adesania,

in the comments that he gave, in the channel on YouTube of his, saying that he not was impressioned because the adversary was the Suns Trichens, in the words of his words and gained, the chance Trichens, it's more

a game of Adesania, to not to beologial. No, no, no, that's the moral, but, yeah, but, it, car, this no, no,

no, it's, no, what he thinks, what he doesn't to think, what he doesn't to think, I asked to ask him if he was impressed when nocaughts

he was, if he didn't feel impressed on? If he didn't if he not didn't, but I think he was,

if he he was in his, if he was impressed at his life, to me, it's

well. You think he should be he should be a, he should the performance that he

had to the can't be I think no, I'm sure that I was there I was

there, I saw, I saw, I saw, I say, I say, this no me

pressioner, you know, no me empoled, no, me empoled the public, po,

it was in the interval of the quarter-Roud, car, there's, there's, there,

people, the people, there, there, there, people, there, some,

on the , down the, , por, feel, really, so,

feeling, and, and, poor, the people, people, people can get to

the, people, the people know, who was the champion, and who can be able to

and it's not, no, no, no, it's not people, the people, I'm in

this way, because it's a lot of a lot of the future, and the kind of the game,

it's quite the story of you're going to you, the marketing, of you have been getting

on the kickbox two times, but I think this probably a problem, a bit,

a problem, the time to do the guy is coming to performance that not

are impuging, fans maybe possibly don't know, not, because the last a little bit of this car, no, I think it's a

different, the people who are always always always always be able to be watching. The people, I think, like,

I'm going to talk, oh, I'm going to go back again, I'll give a chance for him, that now go, and the same thing,

the, yeah, it, poor, no, it was, when it was when it was the next one

I don't because, because with me, the people are seeing, I think they're I think they're in certain

of what will be a good but maybe I'm going to go december with another and I'm I don't know

but I'm going to give some chance and it will be always never will be able to get this

audience it's more talking about but people people are and they're and go

and going and go back but with I have certain because it's things that the people

have seen that I just looked with him and how it was, even the first won't win

for a knock, but it was a lot of it was a whole lot, so I think it was a lot of a lot

good, car. Why do you think you think the Dessana is so timid in these

last his last his last his, for not have been had been not,

not have been not had been not been not the other side of

October, Romero, Votero, Votori, the that not tried to get him

and they're trying to him don't know you know I'm gonna say I think he he,

he, he, he, he does he do the he's, he's, but at least,

the maximum of just to be just to get a difficult, this is the most difficult, you know,

to defend, you know, so it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, idea,

the people, the guy got to do, the car went to they, they, they're,

they, because, because, the guy, The guy is differentiated, the guy is good, you know, it's it,

but what he's doing, you know, you know, I have the opportunity of a chance to knockoutia the car,

I said, ah, no, I said I said, I said, he said, the arpott no,

I'm going to let me get him, and I'm, I'm going, I'm doing, and it's what he's doing,

and it's what he's can't do you can't do you think he could be he'd say,

I'm going to do you're a lot of, you're, you think he he'd he would but the other

guy that's the other guy that's he didn't get he's he made he got a little bit of

a lot of we're going yeah he's having great performance counter caras but now

he's now that he's getting the job of the being better studied for being

the champion you think he got the he's not in the court of the he not

he's he's doing he he's doing he's he's he not he's

karting He's doing the better of his there's no, no, control,

we're controlling, we're gonna difficult, I think he do the better of him the best of

he's doing, who he's who the person has this power to, to maintain

the title and I will finalize or I go to knockoutia or who who can

do you want to do this? And in this same video he said

about about the victory about about the support he he said

he were going to negotiation with an FC for this Luttae about this Lutte-Whorne? He said to talk about about this data,

came to be some thing to this is the future to this isha? No, even not. I mean,

but when he wants, I'm going to be done. This is my last one was very good was very good.

I went to be my machokees so the whole, in my recuperation, no, my recuperation,

the only my discance, not, just have give a a descansada, yeah I've gone

the time this time is a little too much I'm a little I'm gonna I'm not trained today,

I'm gonna go to go to Consolado, but we went to go to school and then I'm so much there's other things to do

me do something more than two hours, more two hours there was in my time I'm doing I'm cumuling

you see even our interview here we moved from the time came up in a little a little

a little bit He's been atrazado, so, so, I'm I can't train. And, I'm, I'm going to

be able to be able to be going to be a lot of, you know, that's a thing that's that he's

never, that he'll do you know, then if he will do that three, I'm going to be done, I'm

not, but I think, I don't know, I don't say, no, I don't say, no, I'm not, I'm not said, no,

if I'm, if I'm, Paul, Alex said, and it's real, I don't know, But,

but, I'm not talking about the book to the way to be in not, I'm going to

you're going to or you're going to or you're going to come? I think he's I think it roll. I think he roll

this year. The first into the kick box was in China and the revenge was in San Paulo. Obviously,

not there's not can't make a place, the UFC, have the interests of his interests of the market, but for you,

where you'd would you'd want to be to gain to him? Siramely, to me, not does

difference. It's, does difference, as sometimes the people are Brazilian if I say I want to I want to say

oh the guy is in the United I prefer that in the States for the people who are really really good performance

that can see I know I know I'm I'm glad to turn a champion if I'd say I'd prefer let's suppose

New York I think in November there a mega event so if I suppose in New York in the Madison Square Garden that I think will

see that, this event top that has I'm in I'm in Canerrike is an hour and a so look how it's good

for me and it's good for who for who who wants to for me so these people will find out

so I think I think all the people should be me support because

would be a thing good one I'm I'm just more in New York

that I'm probably practically in my second house in Caneric Denberg

one and a half of New York. So, for me, it would be better than in the Brazil,

you know, now, the Brazilian is there all the people, the people, the whole

but it's that's it's a very improbable that they do that the world. Yeah,

I think one, if I was a champion, maybe, they'd they'd

know, but I also, I think the percentage there, let's let's put

there, I don't say, minimum, Remembering a little of the Lutas that you've

got in the Kikbox, in the podcast two semas after I received Fernando Capelli who's a exsors of

Gloria, your friend and so much about those those first those those were the and he

told that the second the other that the event was being in San Pao they were they were

they were putting to you put to AdSain how in the time of the time? How did

you took the last or less a month? More a less a month But what can't

but who can't know, it's about to me to talk about with a d'estania in the it's

that I think he'd know, I think he was, I don't know if it was this event

and I lesone my arm, I left my arm of the ligament I'm, I'm,

I didn't a person to me help me a physiotherapy you know didn't much

recourse and then I didn't what was I didn't I'm with my arm

immobilized I'm I don't know, more or less, some, some, I'm going to

make the arm, you know, I've to cancel a Luta, in this GP that I would have been

to be in a year, and I'm in the car, and, boy, I'm, I'm not

me can't, I, I'm, some, a, one or two months, I'm kind of,

maybe, me, kind of, you know, and then I knew, I've got, po,

po, me helped, and I, and I, and I, me, and I, I,

and well I was a month and then I was where I went to go to but I was going to let's go to

one, two months parted, that's a lot to exaggerate, a month, one way, but I'm

let'serer, and return to the man in this one and then I'm not over, I'm not was good,

not was with this in my mind, that I would be able to generally we had a different

there's a time, I'm trying to prepare my mind and my body in a

month. So I was well, I did, I cancey, yeah, it's pretty,

I'm not feeling the pancada, many people look, I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm,

I think, I'm thinking, but, but, but, but, he's, and the

guy, got, with the gropes, there, but, no, I, couldn't,

me, I'm, I was, I was, I'm, more than the, I was,

the thing, the, so what the round, it was like a pal. The second round was a continuity of the first round.

The second was the continuity of the first was like a pound. So, I, like, I pregue, in the hour

in the second, I pregues, I started sporraud, I started a bit more, but the cansaastus

was a major. But I was coming to him to him to he was happening the time and I'm

getting a minute and and justcancant. Aponium and and descansant. And he batending and So he gained the round He opened up

When he opened up I was A minute of the round totaling a minute And half of half And he was A minute and a minute And then I

I was thinking More one minute So I was Two minutes And a half And he He discussed a minute Of a

Of a brusco, you know And then When he went I was I was I was

I was I was been Yeah And he was And the cancassas, po, Zer, or whatever I was going to put that pressure and get him,

but the people don't see, it's even, he, he, he's, he's about the first Luta, he talks the second, he says, I see he's saying, that was going,

what this, that, that, that, that, but I think, so, if he was a guy, sincere, to try, to try the idea with the

the team, to say, oh, this, Alex, the guy is different, the guys that I've got I got, because you see,

the guy does the guy does the car do you want to be a question he's saying that I'm

that I'm a lot of a lot dula, if he had been with the team,

it was a poor, it was a but if he thinks really, that was a source,

that he not was a bit he's not he was going to say, he's going to say,

he's going to say he's going to say he has to this fall this error and, por,

try, to be a better to try to be if he's thinking of his mind of his

he's never never by he's not because he he's different of the other people,

but he maybe he don't want to assume now, if he thinks so, no,

I'm going to say, I'm, I'm not a person, I'm, I'm going that I'm

going to say this, that, but in he, he's thinking, but in he's thinking,

but, I'm thinking this guy, this guy is very this, and this, this is this

that, P, well, it's there, but it's it's not a great way,

he's in a real of, this, this, this, the fact of you not have

got to have recuperating the legion of the arm, and even to have

been this time, that's that's that you get a more,

a more, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you,

I'm, I'm getting long, to be the first, I'm not couldn't

not, I'm not caught, but I was well, I beat more, I got more, I'm sorry,

I'm not not quite never said that's a other but I was very prepared.

And I did the different of today I think I think I can't me prepare

better better I'm a man more more I'm a person, I'm with a physical

good so I think there's to me to me a lot than me

these two two two of what I did with him and I see that I

have evolved in the few years. I'm going to, I'm going to let's talk from the M.A. Since my

start of M.MA It was a war, porrada, put it to go right to go ahead. I'm

to go ahead but I was my first one. It was my first Lutta. No, was a

non- did a non-day, no, didn't have where I'm that I was doing,

prepare a a physical. And to that time to 2015 to You never will see a video of a preparation

physical. You never will see. You can't look at it. I never did a preparation physical. And when I started to do, the things

get bettering and you know. So, I think so, all my experience, since the main experience, that I had

a preparation physical, no, had an experience yeah, uh, uh, of the

uh, and there was a resistance of the luta aghara, I did a war, in the second,

in the third my last year was better. In my fourth lute, I went there, I'm a lot of I'm going to there was a lot

about, there was a knockout that's also not to see that kind of but I just didn't, I felt, but I didn't, but I

I was quite so, I'm pretty, but I, it was a war, it was a war, and I don't cancey,

like, I, I'm, I'm, I'm getting to, so I've got seen and I'm going to talking with guys

more experienced I mean could be theoretically, theoretically theoretically would be more

the cancer but I'm I'm I'm going to I'm well, so I think all this

experience that I've I'm going to think about the conditions that I was I did, the

conditions that I still in the time I'm going to my preparation I can't say to you guys

that was the The best preparation that I did the best preparation I've got a perg

of a good very difficult but I'm a problem a pergation a a perg of

a pergues a good and a recuperation the recovery the recovery that I

did the day next I was I was I said to you never me

I never me sent you in this this lot in the my recovery I'm I'm a

round there was a But, in an quixement in the vestial we're

we're just it's it's a day or not. And I say to I'm

feel like I'm I'm feeling to get a better I'm there

have you did you didn't be a good? And if superende or

did end of the ring? Yeah. Yeah. I more

in the kickbox when I went to against Simon Marcus was

in the my second the for some reasons, like, lesones,

I don't continue to train so, and for me I thought was to I thought about

some some things I thought I thought I thought and in the hour in the

vestiario even in the time I did not I did I did the conditions that I

had been I could I would I would would have been made me with a little of a bit of a recedeer, yeah, I'm gonna be kick-box there, no, not to,

put, not to do that, that's gonna be, it's been really, you know, it's different, kick-gobg's different. And, poche, did all right, I did all right,

put, pegged with a guy, was a ex-campi-oan, but it was my second that I did with him, but I, I, I'm, I did, I, I got, I got,

I got, I got, on the day X that you will do you puttas a little bit of a centauron and you're not

not seeing this thing today, I'm well, I'm going to get him, how is you know how you

get this in the M.A. That's the game of the game of you said, just one just one

one thing, at least of the vestial there's, yeah, say, well, I think,

sometimes pass this in the case, because, at least a perg of a period of everything

you think there, oh, caram, you were not, like, so,

not, well, I did a thing, I'm a thing, and I'm like,

I'm in the way, boy, how can't so, so, so, so,

I'm in a mind, you know, you have you have you have to control

there, because today, I'm, I'm, I'm a lot, so I'm

This is the worst thing, that exists. This is the worst thing. I don't. I can attack and without me defend. So I can't control. So when I pass these

these thoughts on the head of the day good, have to be to take very careful with this. I've got to be a lot of, because

without me to defend, without, without, without, so to be careful to make it, uh,

affect, uh, the, uh, and the, uh, Contro Adesania in the MMA. How is you think the game

is obviously different from kickboxing, because these are other regas. How is you think you can't when

you finally see in the center of octagon? I think the my evolution, will count much there,

if I was not to talk to him today, I would be a other other guy, a guy,

a person an evolution enormous, you know, an experience that I team, because you get a

Adesania, let's talk about the kickbox. When I I've done with him, see the

experience of his what was, and see the my experience what were, I'm what I'm

a champion of two categories, yeah, before I went to with him too, I'm,

I've been just these defenses that I did, not just a conquest, and the

defense that I I, I, I've done in the country, but I'm

this experience, experience is to make a difference that's a nitty this evolution and even this question of cancass

that I think is what it's what it's for me it's what it's a it's a way and I'm

preparing a form very good with I'm with the professional with the global

there, have a great experience and this is doing a great difference in my

life and I don't I'm doing the besting the you can

you can push it to make a will be a war, like he, for example, he,

against Kevin Gaston, five rounds of porrardaria, or you think that's that he's not on the ground he'll be in the

car, no, it's, no, it's, there's a lot good, I'm,

I guarantee, I'm, I guarantee, I'm, I'm sure, that's, I'm a lot, it's, it's

impossible, it's, it's an lot that, not going to be a lot, I think, who,

who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, were the, , who, of MMA.

I'm not going to my fan, no, fan of Adesania. Who goes to MMA will go

to this fight. Not there's no way. Not there no time to go ahead. I don't

see if you had tried to farp with Adesani during a time because Adesani

said that was up to get to category and he did the job of

before he's posto on the Twitter and he's apologial

your performance your your story about the Chons

Strichan and before did a Edisonia, because how is the

way that has a guy that has been unies brilliant and he's sitting Frozen, will amass

a guy like a guy like a what you think you have said this declaration of your party

against the guy who he he's got for the past year yeah yeah I'm

man I sometimes I talk to you always I'm this interest to be with John

Jones no because but, but you know just if you don't have noceau, you know, because you get there

the story of the car, John Jones, Adesania, po, car, I, for me,

he, he's, he's not a lot of John Jones, you know, I'm, I don't have

nothing, but I I'm, I'm, I'm, no, I don't see this

guy, John Jones never, you know, poor, yeah, but, yeah,

we're talking that, we're here, we're we're here, but, I don't see no I can't

can't can't everybody can't but it's a thing I don't see you know I don't I can't

I can't see what I'm this man this ball this whole I think the guy I'm gonna

I'm gonna put I'm gonna put you know because you know that's gonna see that's gonna see my person these guys are

these guys are so insperts you know it's just I'm gonna me disfew saying what he

He's a good guy. I want to look at a guy. Poh, what this idea of the guy? I'm going to dispute the title. It's guaranteed. He wants to appear. Oh, I want to look to this guy. Oh, the guy

knows that I'm the next defiant. He will, will say a part of this? Now, I'd say, so, Ben, White, says like, O, Alex, let's see the thing. You, oh, it's guaranteed

the, you know, is a lot with Adesania, We'll be going to be going to be planning to plan for better. So,

do that's a little to this guy, that's the guy who want to you're in your

and the goal to see, let's see, let's what he'd say, he'd say,

he'd to be, he's no, I'm going to go back to the thing,

saying that I just want to know, to appear to, but he'd have to get the

file of his name, the same of the guy, want to the guy can appear?

Like, like this Semana past A semester Retrasada I said Like the No,

because the Rabib, if he If he he won't The Adesaniya Ah,

the Camar Usman can sub to 9-3 that he Gainer to Rihri Praska Poh,

are Those are not going to happen to say no, I'm going to

go no, I'm from the French Zinganu I'm so

I'm I'm so you know because the chance of this Rucas

Rousous Nula and he didn't how Oh, poor. I'm d'allo' this guy I want to do with this guy, I want to do.

It doesn't mean? If, be italyze, if I didn't dispute a cindon, if he would have the business of him, I'd try a chapel to him, but the way that he did he, is a coward. The way that he said, it's a coward, that's going to see if it.

Just to finish here, a little bit more than your lot, there was a dispute of the syndromathele of the Blue, that he ended up turning the cinderella to the pro rask, and now, to Rasker, was the public

with the energy social, saying that for he, the revenge with the Glover is what happens in the next path.

How is you think that, after the deception, the truth, the Glover had to lose the title,

the form that was, for a little seconds to gain, how is the expectation to do it

all the revent and the global to have the opportunity to bring the return to

the world. I've this, he was he talking and but

I don't I don't know if this is a thing that can be official if this depends on the champion, I think it's the best I think the I'm the best thing is what the Glover

care, he's not talking about to the poker to the water and, and, I hope that it's also,

the word sincere of the champion there, no, it's difficult to be nothing, because, and Yoddra,

if it's real even, car, to try, to get a chapel to the car, you know, because the form that was saying the lot, he was trying to and he wants to prove,

po, it's a subject of a man, you know, but now, going to the other, the other side of Glover, the, was doing a show there, he was getting a

a lot, getting a good, and, and, I think he could vote better. This I don't have a doubt,

and the Glover can even, po, I'm there all the day with the guy, really, he can't even, when he came

I saw him at the first first time. We were waiting him, we just went like this way, he said,

I'm going to get this guy again and so. I'm going to hope that this day and this

and this lot out of when or the next the next the

dispute of the the sturon there. For you would be legal you two

disputing the centron on the same or by the question of practicality

of training, to have one in the corner of the other, focus in a person in a bit of having to have this attention divided,

it would be better to do in a different. I think in events different and more, because I don't do not do

the question to get one on the corner of the other, well, it's always one, one,

one, this does a great difference. But I think that are two shows, yeah, one thing

to get there and divide, two, two, two audiences, because I think that So two losers

that now the people really want to so I think in two events would be nice it's really kind of a bit of putting the two

in the same event but in question to be doing to talk about I don't do you not trapari and I never

thank you thank you thank you for your time yeah I'm just ferries there's there really there's many

to do things thank you more than the time to talk with us and I'm sorry to anxious for confirmation of data to finally see you

seeing you saying in the time in the WDHAVE. Yeah, well, I'm pretty very excited, I'm very happy when everything going to happen

and it's just I'm really, I'm trying now, I'm just a bit of course, now, I'm just getting a little bit more this week, more more tranquil,

in the other I think I can't do I'm doing a day, uh, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to

come, ready, prepared, I'm going to be more important to get on my career, I'm going to go to my career, you know? Now we're going to be to interview with Douglas Lima that comes to just, yeah, after a rapid interval commercial.

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Try the season's hottest flavors from the PC Holiday Insiders Report. Please feast responsibly. And the other side of the line, we have Douglas Lima, that would be with Jason Jackson on the day 13th of May, but the battle was being adored for the day 22 of July. Well, well, been welcome to a podcast, more than one of the time. Thank you. Thank you, man.

Just training here, waiting this date to get. The battle would be in May, like I said, but it was being passed now to the middle of the jury. What happened? You had a lesion, what exactly you impeded to do

to make the Lua? Deposur these two months'e these two months extras. Well, it was the umbra,

rapace. I did a lesionada. I thought I thought that I was been more more serious than it was I'd say to

not really, never moved the breast and I took it some nonce but it but it was two weeks

two weeks two weeks seven without train, I did do you do a trip or P.R. Team Self.

I did these things all over. Then I went and zeroed. They made two weeks after, so

it was, it was a time, but it's to be 100% for this lot, a lot important,

but it's zero now, 100% and you're you imagine that would be able

to get a gunch major, we'd pass for a recuperation a

and maybe to be to confront a other adversary, it ended being surprised that the time that the came back,

that the Belator could have made that made that you had trained for him? I know, I think I

knew that would be it was because no, I would have other other lute for now,

other than them, so I feel, I'm a lot of a lot of a lot that I was still

was still I'm never training hour. The Jason Jackson is a embaled by

him, he's from the game, Greene, the other other names of duos that he put up to now in the

battle at all how is the way that you see this this is a way to see a lot of a lot of

good, like you said he was going to he's been a victory good,

he's very how you say it's adorable a man, a guy who always is always be

he's always he's always he makes a good he pack, he has a box good, too, there's a wrestler more or less,

he's got a back down, so he'll think he will do that same strategy that he did with him, he will make

some of the man, will try-and- and will try to put it to back and make sure, so,

po, I'm, I got, I, I got, I, got this, this matchop, will be

a, , I was, I trained much for this, and I, I'd, knew that this would roll,

it would roll in some in the time you know, because he's been vying a bell atolling, I'm going to say it, I know that this lot would happen. He's a victory of five victories, but all of the decision, right? The appeal of his kick-machine, like, a machine, like, a

machine to do a porrada, but, in fact he's a guy that, like, like, so, like, man to do a porrida, but a guy, in a way, strategic, not? It's a lot, it's different, no? It's a reality, strategic, but he's, they'll get a way, yeah, that's the end of the

day, is that it's what important, so I have to take care of these things, don't let him get marrano, so, because, in the important is to gain,

but I want, poche, I want to get to get this little bit more, no way, I want to call out,

and it's that we always do, no, I want a decision, for five rounds again, no,

and we're, we're going, let's, let's, let's, how it is, and, poche,

let's go, let's go. You passed the time She was in Thailand, yeah, training. It passed on the Pucketre. How are the other than, the other,

the tag, yeah? Training there, and so, how is that? The TIG. How is it so? How did it's the time of a change, of academia, of a muddance of a job?

What you're just to do? This one of course. Possible, yeah, yeah, I've been out to there. I've went there various times with Jukal, my trainer.

We always we go together. Then we know Leo, no, the guy was the best of the best of the main,

when we're there's the we're more with him, yeah, at the Poe Fy-Club there.

And, before the COVID, I'd go do direct, then, after the after the was all over

the time, but it's always I'm there, I'm going to a place, we're just live in

training, nothing to do, just train, come, and come, I'm, I'm going

to do, do, to do, do a part of the camp, yeah, it was

to be time, this this time, this was just two, three of the time, but always I go there's a

lot of people, there's a thing, I'm important to get a time separated, just to train and you know,

these three derrota that I had, and I didn't have gone to there, so, I've got

the sked normal then, after the COVID, poach, I'm, I'm atra your victory

there, because it can get to get to get to how you It's when you go there?

Like if you get interna'd, because imagine you're in an academy, you're going to go to the house, there's a family, there's a lot of Douglas Lima, the human normal, and there

a lot of Douglas Lima, the animal that goes to a porrada, then I think if you pass some months or in Thailand, you're like,

you get 100% in this model that's just care to say in a porrada. With certainty, with certain, it's good,

it's good, you're good, you're good, you're very difficult to be away those children, the spouse and

all, but I think it's a kind of a kind of a kind of to be a bit of like the

way that's the area of the comfort. The zone of comfort, exactly. Here, it's all

no, train, come to house and there, train, and train, and train.

But, despite of, there some some prainia boa, there's a lot, but,

pox, it's much training there, two training per day, every day, every time. Well, this is good for us

to focus more just in this, to get that another once a and then we're not because in the final of the

we have to get in the mentally, physically, it's good, it's good to get the time,

so that's I always do so, I always so much, and how you see getting in this lot of the last night,

you know, you like to go back, to go to bed, imagine to go to dream. Imagine that's in the sea and there's just a sec, there's a secer

in the second of the law, but, it's the job that we go never, not always that we can't,

the knockout, the finalization, and the guys are getting more hard, all the lot is a d'Ura, not this,

no, there's, no, there's, no, I'm, I'm, I'm just lute

with a stop there, but, but, I'm I'm going to knockout, I want to knockout even, finalize, because I still want to fight with this new. And, po, when with the way, it's doing that show,

not having those nocouts that everyone likes. But I trained very for this, man. I trained, I've, I've, I'm, I'm sure. I'm very confident that I'm going to make this knockout. And you think that this victory, you can't you drive direct to Tyro Shot? You think that not, So, for the last

results, have to make maybe more a victory after this to sacrament it. Well,

yes, no, for me, for a victory a bit more a bit more in a knockout,

I can't put to talk with the title, because, well, I'm, because,

this one was a decision me, me a laikar, and it's the guy

who looked for the title, the page there, so, I think I I'm there,

I'm still, I'm, I still still in the top three of the category and with this victory, a be a bellow

knockout, with a certain, I'm looking for the centuron to know. It's a uncommodo even from

the Lute to, you think you won't know, the post-lute, the proper Macopold said that the

interest of his interest of a little that was, he got to the other way, did he,

he created the trotterian and did get to have rolled this lute? Uh,

no, no I'm going to be a lot of a lot of a lot of this that's what I'm interested. My job is to I'm almost certain that this

fight will happen in the future and by the title or what it's going to happen because it's a one to we have to get to demotar this

with the same, no, it was not a decision that I expected, could have had gotten had,

no end of the end the the cup was me, I left in the a lot a lot a A lot a A lot a

How I'm, how you Farrille? A parrilla, parrilla, in the house the car, so the Coupa was my, with certainty, but I know that will

roll out in the future this little will happen to happen, but the important for me now is this Lutton, I'm focused on it and I'm focused on your victory, and then we'll see what

that's what you'll do. That's the fight that's the way to vote to those victories, right? after three decisions that didn't go to your side?

This adds to some more pressure to see a climate different, a newven in the same to you, going to be in

this look at this never came in career, no? With a three-vee six-weeked, poach, never passed,

never happened this, but, man, it's normal, I learned, we started to get a

very, we're going to see, see, see, see, see, see,

look, look, look, look, it's, if if it's if it's three knockouts

the second, so, pop, pop, pa, pa, and then it was other thing, but, boy, it was a lot that was, I'm sure that those first ones, there, no, no, for the Moussace and the Omansova, but, boy, this ultimate year, it's been, more, more than, so, I think I still

still, I still, even, even, there's much a lot to do, po, I'm a lot, I'm feeling well, physically, that, well, before, before the 30, rapace, all, man, but it's, that I'm, that's, that I'm, but I'm, that I'm

even to train like before, I was I was doing two training every day,

I was a different, and it's difficult, but I did these two trainings, I was, I was very

more trained, I think, so, and when I started to get more I'm going to go backch

in these training, and poche, maybe this can't with a other thing, I've got

to train in the old, I'm, I'm, but I'm doing these two

training for day there, doing my better there, training more, pox, trying to to better more, because,

poche, we have to get to get to make a point that we have to do a extra, you have to do this that I'm doing

me feeling well, I'm feeling well, I'm feeling well, I'm trying to be training much more, and pox,

it's got to this an old form there, because to be able more, not, you're malo, what were

the differences physical that you felt to do, this sequence of two three years for day,

how you was 20-po- years, now, of 34. Rap, it's more complicated, many of the times we do

a second training more of less more of life but when it's been, I'm feeling well, I'm not

to be broken, but I'm trying to train to think a lotcour, it's a lotcour, you can't be to train because the

lot is long yeah, car, so in 25 minutes is much time of the lot of there.

So we have to prepare the physical, don't have to be up because

at least I have to be in the time to end this fight in any of the time I'm

can't be able to 24 minutes and knockout to the last minute has been so I'm

a confidence with this I'm a thing about the time all, you're to look hard

the 25 minutes if for if it's so we do this with a time

we're trying more, have to train more, I'm I'm training intelligent

because we're We have to be to be with the lesion and all the we're going to more old, we have to

take more care, we're taking to take with the guys new, this guy, all the guys all over,

but it's, but it's a little bit of three rounds, not five, yeah, after the team of Boe,

and it was going to turn to go, uh, uh, mm-hmm, that's just me,

had to move something, because you, or you maybe, you were training like, like,

it was a, five rounds, because it's a difference. Two rounds a more, it's a lot. For sure, with a lot. With a certain. But the difference is the mental of our people, no, because three rounds is, not a

but it's more tranquil, no. Oh, two rounds a more, you're too, you're not too, but we're trying to five rounds. You did this whole entire, too, yeah, champion during many years, yeah? Oh, gosh, I don't remember,

yeah, the last one way, that I lutee three rounds, but I did one car when I'd was three rounds, always was five, I just did all those decisions too, although to not

but I did many decisions in five rounds and, poche, it's just always, we're always

never to so never moved, no, nothing moved, just to adjust some just to some things here

there, but nothing about, we're talking about what with a victory, what can

you help you know, is because there's the central interino the no,

the Amossov is there maybe afastated even, created the Citoritoritor the

Loverstorley he conquist against Michael Page he conquist but many people think he

he's what your vision of this dispute that he came he came without doing much

there into yeah yeah he marro he's he makes but oh,

what he joke but he got that he's there's there's there's

there to get to ground and pen the little the one that

just He did a little bit of him that's the first time I was just I was looking with a wrestler so, you know,

with a certain he's a serious guy, he has a lot he's good, he's sure, very good, and it's

easy to with a guy that way. I think the page, I think he got more more golf,

and, po, the other controlled well, but he, he did not, like, with damage

maybe, of the porrada, these things he, he, he, I'd say, the look to

the page, without dispreser the guy, without displeas the loggie, because with a guy

a good, he was a man, he's a manro bad, but there to be more than that's

more, the tuitan and all I think I'd need more. But I'm doing more, but I

did say that Amosov just is training he's not in the war there where I'm too

too, if if if it was if he were to want to be the centuron I prefer

the Amosov because I'm I'm got to I'm I'm

but it's what you this decision of the operator to to create the centauron interion. For me, I thought a part of a respecterous, not, not, the Amossob, so frees, stored, he was, it's not,

three years, parado. Poh, are circumstances, the guy, is in a country, that's in a war, he was in a war, and in a war, and the country, so, I thought

of a respect, right? I also, I don't agree, I don't agree much, I, no, concorded much with this, too, the guy, poe, poe, tense, but, but, you know,

it's, but it's, but it's, do not do you do I'm sorry to work for most of I'll just go back yeah I'm going to I'm going to that he was

passing but I'm getting that's out so it's better with him already he'll look with a story with a story of the first yeah that's

a first time this will be da this lot to look to see what happens I think what happens but I'm what I think

pass that one was very divided yeah I I saw see her but then I thought that the story even got

that one but was that two wrestlers was a lot dula, it was a lot of good to watch

for some for some for some for people like you know, I don't see five rounds

now, let's be it's a look interesting to see these two wrestlers and just

to make the Michael Page is with a lot marked now in box

without the box against the Mike Barrow on the day 20 of August what

What do you think you thought of this idea, that is a part of the bellator permit to the athletes, there's a flexibility much more, it's able to liberating him for this

preighted. Oh, I thought was really, I thought it's a lot for page, yeah, I think he will be,

going to be because the style of Perry there, not, it's a bigado for a sniper,

yeah. Oh, and that guy is rapid, he's, but he It's like this page, even more with the loovo, I think he will

make the other there. But interesting, it's good with the Belator let's do this thing, I always wanted to fight in the RIS. I'm always going to not to fight in Japan, I've already, I've got to to fight there, I always liked of Pride, oh, it was a

dream to be like that, it would be a little like, so I always, so I always. And it's good that they let's let's do you do this, at least. It's da-oh, da-one. There's a lot. in the rising that you go wish to try and to confront it?

Rapids, I never never even see the lot of my person. I just just could

look at an event even. Who, who have 70 there, because I

hear about that's just a 485 not, the middleweight. But, po, I don't know,

I don't know, I just want to do a lot. It's just there's a important. It's

important to have someone there, exactly. It's also a lot of the battle

like he did, even the A man to to fight I just want to go to go to

I'm a really nice, I know this the guy who know that's a guy who's samurai so,

so it's a one of the one of the I'm a mind that I'm a and there

would be a lot in other regras like the P.E. is doing a

certain, with a lot good, a lot of a box maybe, a logum a ball

of the life poor, do that it's with you, with a opportunity to to surging, the guys,

you know, the guys, so this is good, so, with certain something like this is good. Maria, Camarad, thank you, so,

thank you, this reta final of the preparation, and rebetten in the lute, my friend, yeah, my friend,

we're going, thank you, we're doing, and in the session Fight Week, the pap is with Evert Bannes, and the

Gilber's Durin, who's lute with biologue in this Saturday, in New York. Finally, we're to be back after a

for the recovery the lesion on the legion how is how it was this camp after that after the camp

was a wasn't, serious that I had been in my career not a not a thing, it's a

problem with a with a problem with a life in five years to follow so far there

so, so to work I thought could be more but it was sinister. It was to do you have to do various things and the application,

but especially in grappling, me abach, and torsuele, it was very difficult. But I continue, doing the work, and seeing the instructions of the medics,

the physiotherapists, and now we're just going at the final near the battle, not a part of the lot. How what happened this lesion? How is it in the train, the situation that

led was the lesion, and what happened exactly in the sole joe? This lesion, I just had a rompment partial in the ligament colateral. I think it's of much jurgis, to resist the chaves of chavs of calcaneer. But this lesion, the lesion, the ruptura total,

was a ruptura total of the ligament anterior, collateral anterior and I went to a carerone that's

ex-campion of Belator I gave the first a second he was a otso Togari he came

and I juwey he, because no day earlier he had me had many

many I was done a second death during Sparrin he he kind of

he took to be to back to he came to he came to he came

in the and he the the and turned and there I felt a stallment

very strong when we we're going to do some the exam of the time

was the ruptura total so we did make a reconstruction this ligament

and the the medical used the tendon the posterior to the posterior to

reconstruct the ligament of the joint and I I was never sent

no there's nothing of the body within the joint

is a right now? Yeah, it's more more strong than more, it's more

more more and more and a, a, a, a,

a, a, difficulty a more, like, for this next one, they're

a other way, you're trying to get a athlete, and it's,

it's also, the two adversaries of you're, you're, so,

did you did the more practice, that was to put one with the other. What did it in terms of strategy?

Because preparation not, yeah, it's not less than 10 days for a lot but strategy could adapt to

something, had to move something to another? There has to do some different the little

to go to the Colson Arbobber was the camera, the UFC, Invicto, VITU,

23-0, a guy who had in a hype good, he's more the wrestler and is

more I think he would keep a lot in-per. And I view the audio, which is the opponent new, is a striker is high

to the carama, more than the long-distance. And I like to make the a long-distance. So,

I'll move a little strategy, but the focus on what I do you do do not. No,

focus on defend what the guys do you do the plan, and I want to put my plan, and put a lot,

put a pressure, and put my I don't want to use my Jiu-its to end up with the but I'm prepared for all these areas and the Buello is is dangerous

but I'm going to pass for the same what's what's what I'm, in the fact is just the

name of the victim you you know, you feel with some some type of more for being of

the last you entered in an FECC embaled, there was there was there to come to enter in

FAC had to had to had to pass by the Lug Fral Fight in the UFC,

he got two guys good, and, po, passed on it's over over the last last time,

there's a kind of, to show to show your value to show, if you're trying to

put a position in a good position in the category? There's a pressure, but the pressure

more of my potential, I'm trying with the people, with the people,

with the people, the car the category, the guys the car the carot the carot,

oh, I'm too I mean, my Lutas that I could batte

the good, and develop my game, I've got to

excellent victories. So, there's this passion my not from

not the Ngo says a bad, there can say, but I

know the work that I work I'm sacrifice, I'm a

not a man so a man, I'm my man, I'm I'm dedico,

I'm I'm impression to get to get to get to a good job,

so it's that I want to really go back to come in the victory. My last my last

was a loss was a death, and it was the career of my career of my

M.A. I think I was very bad physically, I didn't try to get the

mass to put the weight the and it came to destroy my performance and still

didn't bat the person and A discus no, it was a parable for the Denham Pineda. It was better than me in that night.

But I'm d'uid to get this Saturday now, the day 16 of July, and show the

Vintage the Blazer to get to let's to let me make one of the best of my career and put my name

to do my name again on the radar of the ranking of the Dvendezan The

your objective to maybe to be a revenge with a penida to make to be able to get the impression that

you're trying to show that you're trying well, you pass to him too, I know that I know that's on top of him, I also think he knows that he's doing well physically, but the first I've been to various derotas

now, I think, I think, I think, despite that that we just, just just per-de-due, not there never, no victory. So I think it's that it doesn't make

much sense. If he did a victory relevant, I I think it would interesting. I don't say that I don't want a revenge, I want a revenge. But,

but I want to get to be a campaign. I want to be a champion. I think if if you're going to make a revenge, I could get a

good, I, I would have a revenge with because I have a certain because I'm sure that I'm not a part of

I'm fissurated, not. The only part of I feel fissurated is to get there, to get to

the ranking first and to be up to the division. You think a, a grand victory in this

Saturday now, you put, in the top 15 or you think will be that's

for more a great victory you enter in this select group there's

not that a great victory but I think the BWaldio not is ranked

he gained a victory a victory against the John Dorsombrito that he came

he came to knockoutial Andra yeah that was one of the one of the part of the time

was one of the guy who's to have a story not for you, instead of being a newvats. But I'll let's the ranking for who

does the ranking. Decid if I'm going to be able to central or not, I'm going to a good result on the Saturday, and the rest I'll just let's go

do you. Just for we just to finish, the young is waiting a next one he's asking for Mavidau

trying to carve this, this, if roll how is, do you think that your brother can't do your brother he offered him

bad not to make a lot he said that he can be a he's a he can't

he can't say that he's I think much much he doesn't he can he can't

he can't he can't he can't never never if you can't if you're the the guy more moral the world

how you can't You know? We have to accept to the world. But I think the Marizzo don't want to

be the same because of it will be to come back with him. I don't see the second round

no. I think Kibati end up the the way to be to put up

back back to the Lanzar there. But Zah has a defense, he's not

really nothing, he has he has striking, he has a defense wrestling

the center but Bittitt is better than him in all the better

and is more motivated and it's we to go to be champion. I think the Majdol is satisfied with the life of the same of the same thing.

And you think he's a way more easy to do you put up to finalize, but in place, how would you think would be in place this duel? The Durian has showed that he, put, there's a job in-per to try with any of any. Yes, but Mardal,

the chute is very strong, that's the force of the shoot, and Durin, I like to be in a short distance. I think Durian can not county it, with a for sure that I see a lot of bad

for Mardald. Mard Lugathe always to be long and Duren goes to be in a middle of course. I think the Mardal

no game. He not couldn't impede the club to collar on him, he not got to get

the wrestlers to collar in him, he had been a lot of difficulty always during the

career of all, and Durin put in this difficulty even with Jiu the Jiu-G of the

class of so, if it MP, I think Durrign I'm going to like I said, it's a better in all the area, I think

Durin, I finalize. I think if they're not by decision no, I think Durin terminate with a lot of the podcast. We're going to thank you very

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