MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alex Poatan: Israel Adesanya ‘tá cagado’

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

O badalado striker Alex Poatan encara o compatriota Bruno Blindado no UFC deste sábado e conversa com o Trocação Franca sobre absolutamente tudo: as declarações dos técnicos de Blindado, a rivalidade com o campeão Israel Adesanya, os treinos com Glover Teixeira, e como a luta o ajudou a vencer o vício no álcool. O podcast conversa, ainda, com o faixa-preta Balbino Junior, novo treinador de Amanda Nunes, sobre a relação com a campeã do UFC, gravações do TUF 30, revanche com Julianna Peña, e muito mais. O terceiro convidado do podcast é Adriano Albuquerque, repórter do Combate, para analisar tudo o que rolou no UFC 272 e o que esperar do UFC Vegas 50. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Former GLORY champion Alex Pereira faces Bruno Blindado at Saturday’s UFC and discusses absolutely everything on this week’s Trocação Franca: the pre-fight talk from Blindado’s coaches, his rivalry with UFC champ Israel Adesanya, training with Glover Teixeira, and how martial arts helped him become sober. The podcast also chats with Amanda Nunes’ new coach Balbino Junior, who talks about his relationship with the UFC champion, TUF 30, the Julianna Peña rematch, and more. Combate reporter Adriano Albuquerque also stops by to weigh in on all things UFC 272 and UFC Vegas 50. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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William Chris Hello, Hello, the movie, fan of the Luda on 27 episodes of the podcast

Tocaceauk a show of a newmns this immense about the world I'm gonna I'm gonna be afteree

in the middle this month, a little bit more a bit more soon as may have perceived, the company

of Alex Poatann who enfreta who infreended in Lofccd this sabbore in Las Vegas and Balbiro Jr.,

new trainer of campaign Amanda Nunes to talk about the revanch with a Julianne, it's a tuffe that they're going to grab in Las Vegas but before

we'll get a dupe with an talk to Adriana Lukerk journalist atopoom and don't of the videos more creative of preview of the U.S. that the Instagram has seen.

All right, my friend. It's a pleasure to be here on podcast, you know, I'm an audience, I'm a fan, and also I'm also

I'm sure that if I'm if I'm desemplegated you put a a word for me, a recommendation on the M.

May Fight. So, a pleasure to talk to Lutters, let me. Amid, a pleasure

is all my my honor to have been your friend here, talking to be able to see you're

a little of this thing of MMA. Nothing. A we can't one with

other. So, my, I'm going to start the time, the first topic of

the day in the last time, we've we've had the UFC 272, uh,

the the battle that the rivaledade was everyone's waiting finally Kobe Cobbittor and Horace Vidal and so entreatable and the octagon

and it was being a pastoral, because the Kobb Kovi Covton is a contabor fantastic he is a mall without a ulcer but he is an excellent

lotator and the Marzvidal has been exposed he had a period fantastic of his career of his but he not

this level of elite the sport to be the club could be easily be certainly

be champion if not existes the Camaro Usman. Did you surprise, did some point the fight? Or she transcored,

as you imagined? No, I think transcored as I imagined even,

as you said, it was the casement of the Mesvidal. It's a guy who

got to try to the golfs, not a guy that goes to do do

this job aghrared. And the Colbe not no, not.

Not not will be to be arisking to take a porrada

even took a knockdown when you know, when you didn't get to

get to the other to get to the crocation. So, a no see the regra not permitting

to get Colb-cove in a lot of this like nine of ten times

but not be always be always he will be always he will be

unlaw the game the game the again will be be able

to that's no that's not that's You see that he He's He's been that he

He's got The voator The Verdun also He took the He took the He got the Bomerangue To see he'd

see he'd He'd get him But then It didn't So he's So Coventon So if you If you said

If not Cammaro was the Camperian And this is the great problem now because he

is a Lottable Fantasco He had He had more a great victory

Over one of the One of the If he wasn't if he If it or any other person

vancing the the form that he won't about the way to the tournament to turn to know but how you

can't even you can't make him for him to find Usman. There were two luts duras,

not he, he took two passes of car not he was like him, he had two a lute

with him and that he perdeed and he did he what he's what he did he

does a he makes he made he turned he was he he was he was

maybe but will depend many of the numbers of this paperview. Of course that's a story-

whole in a lot of the world he got over a lot of his lot of his own against the

Nate Diaz, all the knockout of Benascran and all but you saw that

during the year he was being more celebrated by the fans than the Roger

he was the guy who really was more everybody everybody was more everybody

was many the sense. We think that, I'm sure that mal this

person that he created created this person chate, this villain and so,

if you think you think in the public of the public of the

public of the right conservative and America and all

of all of Trumpist and he incarned all these characters

we don't know if he is so it is not he

he incarned all the extreme. So, it's sense that the public of the UFC,

which is majoritariam this profile, abrearce him in the end of the first there's, a regeation great, especially

the public international, of the people, but I think that every more, he goes more fans in the States

So, so, so, not to put him, probably to dispute the centuron

now, the cunturon, the second the Luta also also was in the two derotas

and the Camaro every better more but he do you do you

he's he's he's he's he did he oh he did you

payperville in the name of rivalid against him I'm gonna go over

Poirier that he picked the McGregor he's taking the

popularity of these two luts with he he's he was

brilliant I think this this this Joggin he could

be doing until we we'll forgets a little of the second and give to him to end up

and say, maybe he needs to let's say, if he could he would be able to the end up the end up he's going to

make the classette, he's going to get to get a time, because we'll have to get a lot of the UFC not announced

but it's been provable that that's a lot that happens and then then you're there will be the Gibbon-Durin

with Hamza Shimaev if the Shimaev to get it's difficult to get it it's difficult not to

not do a fire shot for him yeah. The Camaro said that no, he can't

have to get more two other because he's in the runkeated not that he's

that you know that he's the UFC, the smear has been this hype in the if he

did with the other he did not the time the not do a fire to be

if he did he got a bad he did he got to he just he's

put down the rodasses by the front that he's he's put to get to get to have to someone.

I think he made a really in, he was really in, he was really having a

rivalry with a rivalry with the next he was very very intelligent in this because he should be

he'd be to be to be a clitoro if he won't if he even a

look against the v. Mila Muhammad in the front there too that also can be

maybe it's also he's there to come out in the front, I don't dov

that happens, I believe in what you are saying that's a time, if he won't have, if he won't

the Timaev, then he's, he's, yeah, it's the winner of Vincente and Bilal. And then, there's there

an opportunity to Kov, too, to be a point, to do you know, and get after the

winner of Luk and Bilal or, I, one of the two, I think, he'd

to get to the front. He, and the Durin would be interesting, the Durin, with a thing, to defend the honor of Brazil and all. The most Brailleers are going there just taking porrata. He just is going

more in the same of the gente. So, who knows, the Durinio has what is necessary to call to say, to warley Alves to goaltz, then. Yeah, well, probably. The word isle. And this card,

talking in Brazilians, there was a lot of fantastic, casado in celsius, between Rafael Los Angeles and and the Renato Moecan and

ended a excellent a lot of five rounds but it's a little expected, because

the Raphael of Anjus had a camp complete, even a camp, because the

lute was adiated while the military took a four days intercedence

saying that one of the years was the Vos to the Las Vegas the other

day was the other day did it just got the thing he went and sat

the porrata for five rounds. What more you surprised, what you most you impressioned, was the Raphael of the Ange, with this great performance with a guy very hard, after a time, he also, he also was a long time in the geladier,

or Moecan, for have done this, for have been able to Raphael during five rounds, without having zero of train. No, no longer, the durability moikano, I think, sincerely, not

not see the lutea would be a lot more different if the Moikano would have a camp. this thing of the camp in the time in the car that

you're going to know, if you have more time you can you can't you can't you can't

but the thing you know, you know, you know, the only thing that include is really

the cost of the weight of your resistance and I think that's that's

he was he had to cut his he was he was been he was

to cut to 165 not 160 yeah 60, 60,

he was I think with 180 and cuted for 160 libres so it so it's much in

five days even with a lot of hanged and went to the fifth round and he lot more

in the fifth round than the rest of the other thing that was that was he was

was every better and he was better in the last he was better in than the what I'm

What I'm what I'm going to do moikano is agar and get to the ground, he know that the trocaation

is a way to get in the car and to go back. But, Rafael, dominor in this camp,

dominor in the wrestling, derrobo, he, he defended when the Moecan went to the moikano

too, the moikano, the most of the moment of his were in the way, so these were the

two things that were those were that were and made and it was better in the

right in the the durability of his because everyone I think all the world

said that the loycan that the lot of the lot of the whole world said the

judge not he should have been he had to he said the body he said

no mark he's he can't he he can't he can't

let him to put he's he he's he's and then he's

he's oh no I don't do you don't the end of the a decision

asserted. We've a fifth round I think I think just a question I don't

say it's a story of the first thing that's sensational and that's a value the price,

value the and he value I think to Moikano also, a bonus more.

So, and although they don't have the bonus the night, the

was an absolute, I don't what the Danel Wai was doing, there

had to a a accord that he had to give the bonus to George to Colby, because literally I'd I'd dream during the the Lute of Colby with Joel,

I was like, pregating the eyes during the Lutta, and as it was, as soon that the jury, I said, well, the Colby will get this decision, even, Fogh, I just

I was, I'm, I'm the TV, and I was doing. I was never, you know, I was, you know, I'm not in the other you could be

you could be on Twitter in that you know you know what when we get with the second the other sometimes you

get to see you come to come the end up you're going to you can't what's going to get ridgated

on that so he he with a bonus out special for that final

that kind of that that's he, he, he, he, he, not could be able to lose to pay a lot really, he needed, need to be a

important, the Raphael is, he disposed to be in front of any, it, it's, it, we know,

we know, we know, we know, he said, he, and he, did, the,

he's, you know, the check, yeah, that he's, he's, he, you know, he's, he may be able

the lot, with four days of the antecedence, and, and, that's, this spectacle

that if you don't roll the bonus official, at least, that roll a bonus in a vestiaire, but what do with the

Raphael of Zanz now? He was in sixths of the ranking before, before, before, I don't

see how it is the actualization of this ranking of the UFC, vowing of the

former over the Polfelder, vending, now of the victory over the Moican, I don't

see if this victory does with he sub a ranking, because the Moican not not

was a not, not was not, not was but, at least, he's just to look at the top of the division. What you would you

have to front originally the 11th, the Raphael Fisive. What you would have to do? You remarked this other, as a dutte, as he'd, or would you ever shareer? Or you'd rather other adversary for him?

Look, the first thing that I would faria with Raphael of Angels is to do a premium for him for having introduced, presented the expression peyed at a farrofa

for the gringoes. They now know what is farting the faroffa. So, like, I just

merces, a praise, a premium, or he did, like, palms for the

Raphael of for this. Now, I think the decision obvious is remarked a lot of

a lot of a lot interesting even, the Fizyev only did not lot because

he was not put it's he's, it's he's he's has been

he I, for me, I'd say, ah, no, so now, so now, so, now,

but it's going to be a day, and you'll have to have to be able, you know, of a punition, between aspos, for him,

but they're, they're, they're focused in, they're doing to put down the Darius, which is a

lot of, uh, by, the position of the disaffianed number one, and then, I think,

does that, does that, it does Re-encontrae the Fisiev two comes of good victories

the Fisiette is a lot interesting with them, two good good trocadores, and as

what Raphael most of the evolution in wrestling in this this lute you start to vislumbrar

a other dimension in the game of a possibility of a different with Fisierre

I think maybe maybe it's the lot that makes the more chance of you

have you have been mark. But I had a option better in mind, I'd like I'd put him against the Michael

Chandler. He's a guy that's the same of his ranking. I think he has in the moment that he's a

upgrade there. In fact, he's got a back at last, he's got a to get a lot of a lot of

but he's a dispute of his stupor but he did a big shus in the charles, quite no calte-o.

He was a ex-campion of Belto, he's a champion of Belto contra the ex-campion of UFC,

fabulous, excellent loters. I think it would be a man-in-in-vent of a fight-night or, normally a common-en-vent that prevailed. Because, of course, Raphael of Zanj and the Fisheb would be a lot, that's a lot, that would have a lot, but I think Raphael

he merits, give this up-zine and do a lot. I don't think he he gained with Michael Chandler, he will dispute the centuron, because this category is very embollated, but maybe it's a one victory to dispute the centauron a case he gained on Michael Chender

I think I think it's an excellent option I want to I'd probably especially by the name and I'd

want to I'd want to why the fans think the Marachey has beence the Michael

Chender or the Tony Pergousson to look for the two guys that are coming of two

two derrots and the Pergson is coming three derrots and that not view the core of

the ball you know why he needs to get these guys and get him to get the Dan Hooker

of Drew Dober or the Bob Green is so good as well the guy of these guys

ultimately the only things that the guys don't have that the Tony Pergson

and Chandler have the name the the Chendler in the UFC just won't another

two luts and because the centurion and contra this retrospect

needs even Marrachev to be entrented these cars to be validated? Okay,

it's it's it's not the first the two are you know the

two are going to the same the first the reasoned for a long time I put him

put him Marhacheb as a proxion to try to get a

tranquillam I think he's he just he's got 10 lute six lute

in the four lute six lute in other he gained these 10 in

he won't of guys of brinkal a lot, like they said in the he gained of great

lotators. And if he he not infrented him he not went to the this way he can't say

that he's not he's he's now he's now he's now he's he came more but if he

didn't he didn't he was the most of the most of the so I'm puning

for cause of this I think he is the applicant number one But, walking to the

original, it would be interesting, the Rafael against the Rangel. Even if you describe the lesion of his

a lesone a lot, it might be a thing that may be a little to go to get this guy

that's the more hype, the pilo of Rhabi and you'll get this guy that kind of

in the moment and put in the just to put it for puning he

for this joguing with Ravos Ravos who's who the UFC, because the

guy's at the moment of the vendor if you make the Charles against the Pulpil of the Kabib, you have a narrative

very good in the your own. So you will go out of not, not I'm not going to

put this guy here, I will put this car for the boy, the Raphael of the Anjus

against the car who can not have a lot of this narrative. So I think the

UFC in the end of he will do he will make the Maracheb ballado

during a time but it but he shot for him. And another person who merito shot, who lot was the last night. For me, is Marina Rodriguez,

who made a lot of dula who is a spectacular, who is an athlete, a spectator, gained very well in the whole in the FC, minus a Carl Spasah, which also is a bitch-pap-on,

a game very difficult for everyone. You think that the victory of her on Saturday-in-you- was the sufficient to convince the FC to give the to her, or you

think they can to be looking more marketing maybe maybe do a force of the young with

the Yohana what you think will happen to happen to happen in this division? It's difficult

to say my my prevision the first of the year is that the marina would be

champion until the end of the end I was quite confident that it

would happen with her being a Cheonan it was a lot much

difficult that the Marina gained frankly I think more in the heart of the

way of the way of the technique in the tactic a Shaan really showed much velocity and a

lot of a lot of a location of control of distance for a part of the lot

in my vision and I believe that shea won't the two first

round but the second round really could go to go to

any was a And a Joanna has this business with the FCC,

have this appeal with the fans also, these good, these good new things

with Danna and with the people, that's she she does the revanche

with the Wailie Yang and Vance she, she can convince the UFC

to be a disaffiant number one. And the other thing that me

preoccup about is that until now also also not was not

it was against Carlis or May I'm in the Carl or was

or I'm I'm I'm this data not no no no

it's so I'm in so I'm would happen in May or June

and and yet now not not been not so we're in

March if if if not it's it will

be difficult for then we we we we're

we we're we're just in July, when will be like she'll when she'll be going to be able to these possibilities

for Joanna and enter in in the middle the business how once the Rose to lose with a Carda Spardt and

decide in which both is a champion, better for the marina that there, there's more time for them

to do a second a lute in this year does time to the repent to doanna

but the Marina, just there's going to do the time the Iona

to do you know, and do you know, and move to that I'm still still confident that Marina will gain

this centuron this year, it's my post. So, so I have to go to the final.

That's to maintain my post. It's right, just to just to get to to the

next issue, but before we're going to start to the next issue, the I'm going

to come here now, a topic that I bathe, with one of the straker, Alex Poatan,

who confronts also a Brazilian Bruno Blindado. The batheap comes to just just a jaj after the rapid interval commercial.

The other side of the line we have a Alex Peree, the Alex Poatan that on the day 12 of March,

he front of Bruno Blindado in Lofccgaz all right, my friend, Vov Oh, thank you

so, we're together. For who, we're not not very familiarized with you with your

story and not know, but you can't mean, man, in the roots in indigenous, who is very

very very sure of this epilitar, how is this epilitar, how are your story familiar and these races?

Well, it was when I started when 2009. My first trainer, he, he was in the

culture indigenous, the parents, even the parents of their , right, and, he was very

curious and he said, oh, where did this force? And, you know, there's a

descendence, indigina, per question to your person, and I I don't know, I came in

house, I asked my father and my mother said, my mom said, really, the father and I'm a little more more long,

they were Indian, and then, po, I came there in the academy, I said to say, I said to let's go,

let's get a camis, let's go, go, go, we're to get a name, we're to get a

time, you're talking, you're not all the world, generally with a crossad to the second was

was a man, and, oh, 80% was a crux of the left. And then I said, poe, we'll put it, potan, which is a man-de-bedre.

It would be a man-dura, yeah, Poat-an, mom-dura. So, then, for a culture indigenous, I think, if you were, like, like, if you were, like,

the stone, the stone, the panre is similar, to a culture indigenous, and you were a man who was a girl who

passed, got to get a curiosity to understand the two of the different, and then you know,

how it was, the time, the moment that you discovered that you this story? I never

I never I've a proximity with anyone even I'm I'm in

five years with this trainer and after after I have more curiosity now because

I'm I'm I'm paying the importance and I say I'm I'm back

to understand a little but I'm I have to me have to be more

more in but it's not it's difficult for me but what I

I can't do the time after the time after even, I visited the old year the village

Patashua, uh, the cacig Biranan, boy, a miguel me who poor,

he's poor, the way I'm always me approaching them to them and it's

me does it good, it's a good, I'm I'm you've

visited this old Patachot in the back yeah, it helped me

there was there was in the state of the there had been in

the people many people many It must have been done a bit of the heart of the heart of the situation, how it was

everyone there. When I had this idea, it was when my friend, he said, oh, this is a guy,

this is a lot of security, other other other areas here are going to be a part of this pandemic,

po, no, there's a way, I'm not I'm going to help. And I

I'm juste I'm in my boss, I've I've I've three tonelad

of the food to people without without no I don't know, I did some campaigns,

like, I did in the academy of the Glover, in my friend of my friend, the friend, my friend, but I went to some of the commisettas,

but I bought the camsets and all the money that I invested and the lucre was reverted for this, you know,

there was a support of government, didn't have a point of nothing, you just of these people, and the people that were three, three,

million kilos of food, and so, it was for the Indians there's but in the time that I

marked in to do you make a place in the time there's an accident there

was in shent and other people who not were the Cesta basic not was a old Xx

there's people need more more than we we're just we're just more they're just more a person

for him I'm going I'm with you're with you're I'm repossed not not all

but the majority, a good part, and, it did the good, it was a

post on video about your video about about, and they're to make a picture in your

face, in your face, on your skinn't, there was any kind of this

picture, or it's a thing of a thing of a there's there, the pictures,

that I'm the things, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, I, I like I love much of the

style of the stil of the he did some some marries there that is

force a symbol of force and it's where I know I know I'm identifical

about the many of the FC mending in pesc in paint with a you think

in a day can say maybe maybe something for a piece for a

question with everything everything all but with certainly

this I gave in mind. Maneer, and we're talking about about a lot specifically, you're talking

this lot to the war marked with the blinded, which is one of the lus more more than

the fans of the years this year, even that many people want to want to

have done not have got because obligatory going to have freeing

the the un of the but you get to think of this point

when it was the option of him and the Or so I think, like, as you know, like, like, this is the best this is the best one that the fans will not like to see,

so no interest that are two Brazileas, it's that I'm going to be quite difficult for the fans, to accept, because, oh, some two guys there that are going, and there's chances to dispute the

cinturon, and theoretically, it will be there, one will be a little more to get a little more to get a little bit more I, Well,

I'm a better for me, not I'm not talking that's a lot of a lot of

I'm sure I'm sure I think the that's more than he's not so, but then you

don't, but you get the man of the man, but the guy, I think,

I'm, I'm rankinged he's, he's, I'm gonna not, but,

poor, it's with no man in an lot in but, it's like, so,

who, who's who's who's victory will be more the more

we're more than we're getting in the head of the head of the whole

that's a good for the reason why if you're this detach total in this lot, I think

the blindado would do make many the other even to get to get to the same

all right doing this bad so the so the so I'd be demoral to see

a new champion in this category so I think now now now it's

now it's oh I'm it I think, we're doing our work, this is a job, and the fans have to

understand. But it's, it's, for who who's, it's a show. It's been a show. I have been a certain that now they're not,

they're going to think, you can't say, now there's to be to go, and I'm low to see this lute. I'm sure that I'm sure that

I'm sure that all over this look to be certain, that's a lot that's a lot of you can be in a guard and but a guy

a marra, This is, this is the, I'll call my my mom in the phone that's here in one

of the two will be in going to get to get to get a and that your

decision after despite a lot of your because we don't do you

not used in the social of you talking about and talking more, so you

talking, so position of this question of the after the yotico postor

that skuliamband there saying that you did you know that you

and you're impedient to he's very well in front a brinded. He ended up on this side of your. As a guy, as I said,

I never said I never said bad of people. I never said if I'll say something I'll say in the car poe, as my luts,

I'm, I'm, the result of the results of the that I have. So I don't need to be talking, I'm going to knockoutia the car here

I'm getting, I'll call out, you know, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'm, I'll do my

better there I want to do I'm going to get a I'm trying to get to be I'm going to I'm going to

talk about this and I'm going to I'm going to a man who a mental health a psychological very strong and if the

guy thinks that will talk about my knock out of anything that's going to do that he will be

not me balar this not this not not move I'm I'm trying with the

people I'm doing and I'm doing a preparation for this nothing will be

not what will me will be me I'm going to be I'm trying, how, not renaning,

if I'm not training, but I'm training but I'm training, oh, I'm well, I'm this, I'm interviewed,

I'm doing this, I'm sure, it's a porrada like we said, I said, you said, and he said that the strategy

of his, guaranteed, that's not is going to get a person, you know, at the guy, at least, at

the end of the time, he thinks, well, if I'm trying a quack, could be a path to this victory.

He said, no, there's a way that's the cold of the man, the guy has said a cold,

he's not a quacket to be able to get to be to be able to but the thing, you know,

you think that he cogita enter, fintar a little bit, and try to keep down about your

call- no procaation. I think the mind of his might be to try the world

but it's all depend of my comportment, you know? the people also substimmed

a much my shone don't know how I'm trying, I'm not going to try now, if I'm going to

show you want to understand, so I think he has been in mind of he's going to try a

but I think the way that I me comport in the way, he can't put to

put down to be back and I I'm I'm trying very well in the

I'm going to say a thing for you can be more more comfortable

to be in-pair, you know, in case. He, maybe will be more comfortable to be in-pair than in-pair than in-the-chon.

You, possibly, is the best striker more technical, who's been in the last time, taking some base, the career in the glory, have been a champion

double, but we know that MMA is another sport, that this doesn't guarantee that you will have a success in the MMA

because you have a success in the kickbox and we have, for example, guys like Gugansack, that had a great story,

too, not rending much in the FC how you have you have to

the way to be in technically talking about just the how the the job of the

style of his style of a car's a lot but it can't happen

to happen to happen yeah I can't get a man to get a man

to come I'm talking a man a man a man trained

a man well physically so but but looking

and looking the number the form of the knockout that I have, the form of the knockout

he had. I think I'm more more dangerous, you know? So, so, if was a lot of

kickbox, I'd be more tranquill. I'd say, for you, I'd say, for you'd, the risk

was a man there, I'd know, put, me, there's a man, but there was a

little, I'm, I'm going to get here, I'm, I think, I think, in the final the best way to try you to try

you to try to a big of a big of a brawl, and let you put a car, with a rive to be a man, no.

No, no see. I don't know how to explain this, but I have a certain I have

certain, that if he would say, he would be the man more strange, I'd say,

more strange that he just ran that he's in front the guy the guy more

not, I'm saying, not, strange how? Strange. Technically not going to not understand

the thing I think he would be the man more strange that he would be the strange to be or the strange

there in the right in front into there in the hour in those 15 minutes I'm I've seen a

interview recently of Daniel Akasner yeah he's the judge of the Pride of Mecca veteran in M.A.

To work the portal of Valitudu he is he was a trainer of the brindado today, he gave a declaration saying that he

thought that the canonir, that probably will be the next addresser to he said that he is more dangerous to the Adesani

than you, everyone has a narrative that for you have got a get alexer and that he thought that the

man said that the man more more than the procaation in the porrada in a M.A. What do you think you

this declaration of his? He's an athlete of his he, he will, he will to get a moral of the guy

there, you know, I'm going to my mom, when I said, oh, that's a woman like,

that's really, I'm really, I'm really , I'm really about, but I'm saying, blindado, be smart with this guy,

now if he's going to be his head of him, he's, he's, that's, he's,

that's a person, don't know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

he's just the man, look, the, look, how the local I'm, the,

was this knockout, see, car, the snowcouts that I have, the car, pass a mal, ballon of oxygen,

a cordon another day, car, how a guy talking about this? But it's right,

he wants to he wants to the ball of the athlete? Bealeh, all right. So,

I'd be in the interview, but I'm not, I'm not, I said to do

a moral, but I'm just to get a person, but, I mean, so I'm saying, when he

when he, when he, when he, when he, I was a lot of people go there and mark then then I click there, go to call there in the postage of the

guy that, oh, the guy, uh, rummed to my 20tho knockout. I said, I said, I said, he said, he said,

to me knockoutia because he'll, no, nocoteer. Then I, there, there's there there's there

Dada, Dida, yeah? Andrea Dida? Yeah, so, then he, it's,

it's, it's all, I said, Oh, man, there's some trainers that are the ones

but he's not the situation but he's even when he went to go to go to walk yeah, he's made that

this lute. I'm going to put a knockdown in a car the guy, he got he just won't

the round because he did a knockdown but he took a second round, another he took a

third round another show and more another another he got got got a lot

that he did that he did that he did Porra, panioed for caram. So, it's like, I think it will, I think, can't get by me. Porra, belea, understand. But, so it's the same,

the way that the people pass. It's what I'm talking to you. At least, the trainer, he, he's straggle the car, not. I don't know if this is a strategy. What they're talking in front of the camera,

the front of an interview, he, he says to be the guy to be expert, but, anyway, I have my way to think, if they're the way of them, if they think they're doing result, so,

so, so everything. You think that's a strategy to maybe to maybe to get a for the

people to get with more respect to or maybe to make you to make you more but I'm doing,

like, oh, the guy who want to get more more, I'm my contract,

if I know, with a bandado or with the name of the other

that, Kodjj, Kod, the yotch? Yeah, so, I'd get the

same thing, for what I want to think I'm going to think to be

saying, for who's to go responsibility to me, never,

you think so, so, so, it's just, so, it's a absolute.

And you, when you said, you're more, you're more, not a man, not,

you know, even got much in the interview, yeah, that's listening, that's

not, I'm doing, I'm not, you know, I'm, I'm, well, I'm,

you, you're, privilegedgated, you, but, like, privilege, I'm trying

to you help, all but this I don't I don't go I'm disgast a little bit of

my business is training I'm always my business is I'm always we're going to we're just two months

in the last time especially now but I see the necessity too I'm talking the fans

want to hear and I think it's the minimum that I can do I think this this lute

there's there's much high expectative especially what you did in your

Strait of the FC, that Julia's a great-mo-a-mo-a-movroa wonderful, and also, because everyone wants to get to the

action, because you did it's against the Adesanii in the kick-box. You think

more the knock-out like that the Miquail in New York. If you do the same thing with

the blind-out, you are the front of the centuron after the proxan, after the

cat, no, I don't see, for be sincere, I don't see, the most

just are until all the plan, just are I don't know, I'm doing a pass of every time, I have a foot on the ground.

I think it's that makes with what I come grow up, and it's done so, and I'm going to continue to continue to be not going to

put, in a lot that's not, I'm going to be thinking the second, I'm understand the brother one of his counter Robert

Whitton, who, gained him more this time for points, the first time he was out of his first time he

took the performance of his, you? Chameau the better than the first he did five rounds what you saw in general

of the performance of his he went to him to make for him I don't think like a lot impugant

I think many many failures I don't know I have impression that he made

he made the he made the mached no I don't know but I think he machoo

the for who is for who who is know what it is important to shoot and it's

where he could be able to but he not could be doing he mached up the foot he,

he said, he said, he said, he said, but I'm going to get a lot of my chattahed too.

He, he, he, he, he, got, and he had been

the other , he was, he, he was, he was, but not, he was he

did he did with the porachina, against, against the , you think the the

that he had in the middle- pesed to maybe he had made with him in a way he he went over these two

luthes? No, I think no. No, no doesn't make sure no, I think it happened there really something.

I think it was there in the beginning, some chutes there, you know, I think

that was this, I don't see. The Adesani said, after a interview that is an

answer to an interviewer to confront to the M.A completes a cycle, a mark of his career of his career, after the LUTES that you did in K-Box, and everything he did in M.A. You think he, de facto, is he

anxious to confront you? Or he will try to avoid the maximum, this? Carre, you know, doing a risada? Difficious, right? Yeah. It's difficult, yeah. Car, look,

how do the guy says that's a loco to fight with me? I'm in the place, I, in the place, if I, if I was a man, if, if, anxious, like, anxious, he's talking. When I say, Alex Pereer signed with an F.C.

Por, in the hour, with the moral he has said, car, see he wants to look for me now. Forget Robert Wittaker, that I canceles this lute, I'll go to go back. Who, who's going to, so he's going. So, Alex, if you want, I want.

Oh, and you're going to, this you're so-law to fight? Ah, I'm am I'm going to love to with Alex, but after 15 luts, I'll lute with him. Porra. How?

How he's going to do you? Look, I'm pro for you. It's a problem with you. to get to get in him than to get him. You know, you're more difficult to get in him. So he's about this. He knows how I do to win him.

He's lute two times with me, he's not, he no, he no, he no, he no, assume, you know, the, how, I'm, how, I'm, and, boy, from, this is I'm talking to you, he's, he picked,

various guys, but he got, he's weird, you know, I said, what, what, what, what, you know, so, so, you know, so, you know, He doesn't do you know

to fight with me. He wants to go and say, is this guy that you want to do you want to? You know, go to the end of the

final of the field, go, and he's, he's going to get to me, understand? The guy who's, I want this guy, I want this guy.

He's trying to the public of his, he's not, he's not the public of his, people are people who are people who are

I think he has to value the minimum that he can say, I'm going to show me for the most of the

my fans that I'm for this that they me say, But it's what he's doing. He's been caged. Like he's got caged.

You think that this battle happens? You think he thinks that he will adjia the maximum possible. I think he will continue as a champion this time all,

until he won't have to come to get to get to gore and have to get to I think of the way, I think so,

but, I know, everything can happen to happen. All right, the Anthony Schmidt, the voter of the UFC

and commentarista also, he said, and different of Daniel Acasso, he thinks that you are the guy

to do more to do the more work, but he said he said you're going to get a difficulty to get a

lot of work, because in the way there's much a lot duster, there's a lot of high-nive, there's a lot of

jiu-gitzo, and then that you enter the fact of you know, with guys like Gauver, with Eliton

tour, with the people that you make for the situations like these, no, so it's very

important, the job that I'm doing, I think it's being the best of the best the main

and it is it Smith, I saw him saying he said, I agree, he said

the same thing he's a very he said, I, man, the Adesani thought he

thought that I would be there, he never would be and he was comfortable and I

but I, I know, I was I was sitting the lute of his and I was,

I was talking, I was saying, he was he would do you, he would do

do something to do this. You know, Vision, I know, I know how to gain to him?

How are you get to him in the M.A? No, in the Kikbox, if you gained him for Pons, in the Outsiqq, how you get him

MNA if you'll find him in again? Ah, no, I'm going to be in my,

I'm, you know, I have, you know, so, like, I could I would say,

but I'm not not, but I could say, but I would be a, the,

Fulano, about I'm to be the next no defiant. So, I'll train with you. I can't train with you.

I'm going to but I'm going to but I'm going to you're going to after he when? That's a few months. It's a few months

not do. Poh, have to train at least four years, in the minimum four years to do you

to do? To understand the game. Get it. Yeah, it's a train. It's, I was,

I was, I was, I was, I did a lot in Glory one way against Yus Belgarian

I caro pole a meter and 96 of higher than I, I've got to three

I've got I'm a pounded a pound and I don't a pounded in a

court in the second and in the third in a caltee ballon of

oxygen and he got over three days before I'm I was training in

the academy a chute of a carcaniar that I do in the

coach I do do do well I do well I was training more or less

one year this shoot and it was I'm going to most chute I'm asking everyone in the club, I'm going to do you know many

things and I'm saying all I'm saying now I'm doing this guy, I have video, I have putt over a bit over a jab

d'n't but carama but I but I'm like no trainer was comfortable in the lot of different

so then then I said I'm going to train more and this chute that's chute that's macho that's macho

everybody that's much It was three years and a half training this shoot direct, all the days I trainable a little bit,

and I went I did this look at the if you see this shoot, did a video adapt, and even the other

time that I said, now, now I'm I'm gonna do it's this car, with this chute,

this chute did a great difference so I trained three years and this chute there to try to make

to make, I think one year I was good now but I didn't have to three

and a half so many things that I could would say, how to get Adesania, not it's a day to one day to

another, not just to understand, sometimes you go at a academy, you say to talk to a friend of your, oh, let's see a little bit more,

come, go, go, and you're there's, there's, oh, the trainer, go, like, you know, the time you,

do you, do you know, the time, you know, to go to the family, to look, he's,

this Guilm, he's a man, the trainer is talking, well, I, I can't come, visit him,

I can't, if I'm from I can't, like, oh, Gilemm, it's like, so, oh, boy, it's a lot, boy, it's a lot, boy, oh, legal.

Then the guy who will look to him, will see this video and say, boy, I'm going to do. Not going to do, it's difficult. How long?

How long? It's time it for you to feel like to you, I'll say to you, I believe that will be good in an

MMA. I believe because there many arms in MMA, that things that in kick-box

I don't could do and, you know, there was a limit there was a little bit but do M.A can do you know I'm doing too

there's a lot more to show a lot more to make a lot more I'm really I'm learning to a caramba and it's

today, today was a day of off but I combined with a Grover there 11. and a morning we did a

morning we did some positions that I was doing a bit of difficulty on today on the train and he said oh and then

We're going to train tomorrow day off, but and then I said, porre, it's demurro, we'll train it. And, boy, we did those corrections today, porre. Perfect, man. I'm thinking, and I'm practicing. And before we finish this interview,

I'd want to talk about a year and a half about, I wrote a month, I wrote a matter great about this, was an M.M.F.E., but as much of the old-vince here to the podcast didn't have access, not they didn't listen,

and they were, you're talking about how your battle to gain to get in the alcohol to get rid of the doctor of alcohol

it helped you to turn a when you when you was a barrable in a barrae how is

how you went this this vio how it was in 2009 yeah I was in I'm working

in a bohacharia I'm going to bebe there's I'd turn over five months and I'd I was at the maximum I I think I'm going to

I think I can't I can't work but I'm going to give me a little lot of beer in the festival and I'm going to be able to get a night

until I didn't know so I'm not there's a man to say I'm going to something to do and then I said

boy sport, yeah but football boy no I don't know play ball but I'd brigava

brigava I was like I was like I think it's okay I'm then I'm I'm gonna

but were four years there I was in the sport, I'm in the sport, four years to try to try out of the baby, so I was there training,

I was a champion Brazilian professional and I'm, but I just some of the perka, a perka, was in 2012, if I don't

remember, and I was, I said, I'm going to stop, I'm going to I, I don't see me control there, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, thanks a God, until today, I never re-relea a bottle of my book. But it'd

been impossible to get where you if you had if you had been to get to get in

the way I was impossible there's a but there's but there's a man who's like a beer,

there's a cigarette then you know, it's a man controlled, a guy who know, I don't know, I don't know,

this was my problem, but the way that I was impossible. The way that I'd be able, impossible.

And what what you did you make, to maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe,

the type of problem that you've that you went to the same, first, you're

to get a family, because you have people who you have to help, for you need to give force,

you have to know, you're doing this and you're for you. But there's other people that are involved

and, you know, you have to think to you know, so if there's, if there's

people to you're the, this is the, this is the main, is the only is

difficult, man, so z'an is a there's a guy that there's a family, he'd have to do. Now I, once, when I said to my mom, I was, oh, I said, ah, until when?

Because I don't, because I'd say, oh, I'd, go back, and, I'd, and then, oh, that'd, passable a month, two months, one. Then, then, he'd have, oh, Alex, moved. And then, it passed, and then, then, I, let's suppose,

the people were, and the, oh, and Alex, asked my mom, and Alex, how he's, oh, Alex, he, poor, moved, he, poor, moved, and, It's a two years, it's four years,

it's a good year, it's a good, you know, you know, you're the world, I'm gonna be able to be a person, I can't be

when the family not a poe, oh, and I'm full-No, ah, he's, he said, he said, no,

I don't know, I think he's, no, not, he's, he's, he's, he's,

I don't seeer to nothing, I don't think, he's never, I think he's he's a little, I don't, when we don't have the people

that can't help, you know, then the guy I'm doing for them, but I'm just just going to it's a difficult

for this person because he's like, poor, not just for me, I'd like to be there, but I'm doing

for these people but these people don't think in me, then I'll bebe, so. So, so,

so, so, so, I've had people, who gave people who people who I'm still,

what I'm to be to people of the best, people with energy good, you're going to your family, and have opinion,

know what you know what you're, know where will get, know, thank you, thank you for this great victory

in the life, and obviously for the career that you've been sure, I'm anxious for the day 12th of

March for this great battle for this great podcast and good good luck I'm not a lot of I'd say to

talk about I've heard I've heard some of blinded, in interviews, he said, I don't go

the guy me in compliment or stuff, with this, you know, so I'm, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling bad,

you know, but, because it's a choice of the guy, I'm, I'm gonna

get to back, and he, and, boy, he, looking up back to

the guy serious, and I think I didn't see, but, but,

like, I, think, I, I just didn't He was not even I'm a guy, I don't

I'm a guy, I'm an emotional, I'm a guy, I'm a lot, the guy, oh, bina, all right, good, good, good, all right, all right, he's talking about some, you know,

he said, you know, in the podcast I, I asked him he said to him he said, he said, he's a guy, he's a guy, the guy, he's good,

and he's, I'm a guy, so, I'm a guy, so, I'm a guy serious, but I'm a person super-educated. And, like, I don't put

this for him, you know, by by, by, by, the idea to say he

to say he he's a person, I don't know if it's emotional, you know, because,

car, you know, because, you know, the guy, train, for car, pass,

what he says, because it is easy, you know, pass below what he pass, and,

and, and, poor, the car will comepment the guy, and it

all the he did, all the the trainers said, all the all the what he

did, all the I don't I don't concord and I think that this is emotional

I think that is being insecure with all with all I'm in all I think he didn't

he didn't he not he not he not he not he didn't be a emotional

I was I was insured but it was in 2012 when I 2011 when I when I trained

in professional and I came getting this with a where I go to

where I'm where I go to take and I will take and I I'm doing everything I do.

I'm going to come to come to come from here, long as a family, to get a guy, for being to be educated, for being educated, and will move to do. It's a malucous. And it's security,

for me, get to be, so I think he will, and he will see, he will see, if he thinks that's right, it's all right,

I, I'm, I don't know, I'm sorry, but, he don't go, he doesn't, but I don't want to even destabilize him,

but then he'll say, but also, but also, when the guy came to compliment, to do your strategy, you know, you can't

po, bledado poe, I like really of you. You know? You imagine you know, you have to

have to be a man more free, you know? P, where's I have, I have a, I have a,

he will get to do something something else and I, oh, my heart so I'm

so I'm so I'm going to make, I'm going to I'm going to I have to I'm going to

say, no, no, don't, don't, don't, this is this is

So, we're We're learning, you know, I don't know what the age of his, I don't know, in his age, I don't know, But it's a man, you know, but it's a A man, it's an guy experienced, but I think, the idea of the trainers, I don't

if they have these ideas, you know, I'm going to beving with many people, I'm going to, I'm going to, where I was, unfortunately, I'm not talking about bad of anyone, you know, the people, I'm in the way of the bochery, I was in a bollery, I was, in a bollery, I was with a

people there were it was in this strutour than I, but today not, I've been to I've been to a doctor, I'm going to go talk to a doctor,

I'm going to talk to talk to who, I'm going to work, I didn't know, I didn't know, so we're learning we need to we need,

we need, we need to, we need to so, so it's that for me in security. And other

other thing, another thing I'd like to thank you to thank you the people of the Nordest there,

especially because I'm blinded in some a blindado in some a little bit of a little bit a little

boy I'm a Nordestino this and this is here this is he's not he can't think he

also have seen my father my mom boy from the yeah to see

to San Paulo to find a life for a and it and it's it's it's fair

with ferro it's yeah it's but it's but I say for this car

I'm sorry everybody that who's who's who's been the message, there's many people who when you were

the glory, when I was in you were, you were the number one, you were kick-box and M.A. So,

that I'm, I'm with you. And some people I'm, I've done with a car, po, I'm I'm not,

the house of the car, and I'm saying, I'm gonna, these people are coming. So,

so I think I'm doing a thing something I'm think I'm saying, I'm saying, it's a

thing that's something that that's the people, I don't know I'm not It seems to be a guy super

a good a guy family, a guy who there's a way to get a way to conquer the

people, it's just that's showing, because it's been well, it's been three-duty

with three knockouts, before the did the show in the russia that's, for all- all-money

that's, it's complicated-s and the guy made strago there so I'm very very motivated,

I'm very motivated, is the right for me if it's for to do you want to we're going to if we're going to

put in the foot in the path, we're going to be in the academy and I'm going to be very confident and I'm going to

much to think to go ahead more about this lot I'm I'm anxious for day 12 to see you both

saying in the porrada in the octagon thank you thank you thank you well thank thank you

the FC this sabbato is that also that APC, APEX, will have Tiago Marrita against the

Magumedian Kalaev, a pica russie that's coming in a guy, but first I want to talk

with you, my friend, about the lot of the people are very anxious to see, that is

Bruno Blindado against the Alex Potan, this duel that when was announced many people talked,

for what, for this division chia of this division cheree of the people,

going to get back two promissory the locators one and

this casement you commode also or you know, you know there's

point to get to get to get to get to get to I'm there

there's a way to get to get a really it's a problem of the

problem a good for a game the football always

I want I want I can't I can I

have the gab goal and the Peter in

the Plem the problem or Neymar for to to tryca, I'll do what,

we're doing, we're doing a lot of Brazilian there, but they're going to have to eliminate, no there's no,

the, the, the, the, it was even, it was to get a guarantee that

will be a lot of a lot of a lot of a trocaation of chungo, not, not will be

an agaramement, are the two guys who gochings who don't to aghraar so it's

a liberty for the two if they are going to they have to go to I don't I'm not

you know you're not you're you're people the guys could grow but the

people are it's inevitable so you know and resolve for now let's let's

one there's there will be time to be to get the and then

to be the repent to be I'm I I'm tors to be a porrador

is a porrador out of a point out of a great lot of the not that's a passada a car

a knockout in 30 seconds because the predator he's very quite quite you have some projection you just

you've to analyze to prepare the those reos of Instagram with your palpits

if you will have some trycad with a blindado or you will

have some some trygid with some I'm generally

I just I just do these Hughes in the paper views. But if I

would have one of this, I would have to do something with the Poatam.

I believe that he will wince. The blindado has been this story

of the experience in a troca in the MMA and all

and it does make a sense but when you are with a

guy and you are so I don't know the blindado

really oh no then So, today I go aghara he and go to

wrestling, in the Jiu-Gitio that he don't have, that the Poetan don't have, if it's

if it's going to put in the procaation, the Poetan I think will be better,

he's he's he's he's that's adapted to that's and I think

we just will see this testated, so will see the Poatan tested,

even when they put a wrestler to get him there.

It's, but, it's been a good but I think it's a victory of Poitin

for a knockout or decision. I tend to accord to you, and if the things are

going to imagine, this victory Saturday is the sufficient to to guarantee a shot

to Boatam by the story that he has a rivalry with the

kind of it's difficult there there's a category that the Adesani is

maybe passing the car but there there that even can't

even will be entrented a another, he's going to not know, if the

people think the manh he's won't dispute the centuron or Poe Potan

won't two and it I think no, even being the car with a

story now the Guy, if we can remember historically these

guys that are these cars that are brought to come the

old goes to the car and to pick there generally don't

don't get a No bingo I can't remember of two of the Rio Shonan who went

for the UFC also the guy who got he got the

under the under never did no FEC never

never never never never uh never uh and

the Joe Duff that also came came the last

got the got got got got there never

never a guy that could dispute the centurion. If we forced the barra there was the Okame

who got a lot of Anderson in the disclassification in a tournament

in the I think was I'm Valarisse and then and

then he disputed with the many years after and

nobody people people that nobody would be the guy

to win the American. that's this that I think they will put more some views for him

before he before he got a victory a blindado of a form of some of

a title shot and I would post I would if he not never a if he don't have a

evolution in wrestling not to show really that has a good a good

goal agarraved probably probably will be have cars with with a

capacity to derubing the proper Whitaker who showed that he has

this capacity in the last last the last it's it's

it's I think he he even will have to pass for

some tests before the question he he entered

maybe in this vibe because the Wilson yeah was

he was he always when he had that he had he

would I'd have to Joe Sonny, who did for him for Pete Franklin so finally they're a

force of barra there was now, now it's they're going to cause this other because

the Anson was limping the category and had a certain narrative what I think is the

part of Poitin because the Poetan if you can't think the career

of his M.M.A. is very really if he not was this pick of

kick of the box he monster that he got the

Adesani and and he not would be in FC he would he would maybe entering for a

contender or then having career even in the LFA until there's a

three victory there to he went in the UFC because he got the boxing

that he's two victories over the so if the F.C. Pekar it, that is a

product that's that's that's exclusively for because of this and he did he

win a in the FEC to the centuron, he eventually he will eventually he

will He's stragged the product that you contracted for infathe Al-Dessani. So I think if he got a band-dove, maybe not be this lot of the blinded

to play to fight him, but he's puttow the centuron. But, for me, it's a one of the time, it's a-labor. I don't think a long-the-

way, like the Mahathev. Ah, you have to be able to say to be 10. No, you have to have been the

sufficient to not be a forceation to barra. If he he he pegoed the hand-the-lawed and he did the streya,

and to work he's against the Adesania, maybe not a force of a barrow, because who more in the division will dispute the title?

You will have a bunch of revenge in the front, considering, clearly, that the Adesani pass by the

judge of an anony. So, then, far, he with Poetan, you know, you know,

you know, you have, the idea, what he's, the point of the , uh, , even, the interview,

in the interview, in this year, in the case, if he'd say, if he said, if, say,

this Lutta, that we're going to do we're going to do this will be the going to be going to be

maybe it's not this but it's it's a lot he's in the car of the goal and if I'm not

Bott on a wrestler Bota him a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of

a stardin but he's not a but put a look that it's a favorable to he make

a trocal and just because the FC entertainment he not meritocracy if it's

meritocracy, he would have to to do the way to make it to make a lot of the plot. But not, no. You have to construct a highlight in a beautiful to Poe-Apan to justify

to casar the little of Al-Sairn. I concord. I never subestim the capacity of the U.S.C.

to strang everything. That's what I'm saying. This story show, this story, it makes a capacity very

great to strang all the son. How many the super-lutas that were to have happened what had to

have happened what were, so that's there. So, there's many chance to give a cagada. And you

think the Poetan is the best of this isntonar for Brazil in this division? We have have a

moment difficult, that's two derbyn, that's going going to do you're going, finalizing,

general, and the general, who's the blenado, there's a robocop that you

got got who got got to you, you think the Blenade or the Pottan, you think the

Pottan won't this lot, you think the Potan is the the best of the

idea of the idea of the idea of the world? I don't see, I never I never,

I don't parry to think in which are the best of their is the most of the

world, the he appears the way, the way because this

story and this narrative, of this he's being being being being

being saying, as it, but one, he's he's going direct

to the centuron, so the a chance more rapid and for

just to have this story to have been a couch two years but I have been much confidence

in Sergpano for example and look that he poe he, for the story

he's oh it oh it he's, he's, he's, he's over this other,

in the career of his, but he's he's most showing much evolution

he has a a great good, porre of high level

and if he If he pego the Adesania, it's good, that's difficult to derobar, but he's not going to

he's not never to get him, he gets to get to the post, and can't get to

get to I'm a much faith in Cergapano, so I would say for you,

I'd know, my vision, the person, the Poatan is like that

like, like, there, the story of Poatan, by what he did he did he just

did this facility this this want to the Wats to put I was to go, he, with

certainly is long there's a low in the same level. So, tomara that

not inventing to putt the Poatan against the Sergipano for the Sergian's Rhael,

then it's to fudder, yeah, well, so, there, so, Tant's

Strickland, the Lukkhold there, that you mentioned, put, even, the burrachin, the burrachin,

can't detract. The other main. The other main, this Saturday, is a lot of a lot of

that's coming to a victory, not was a great victory, not that victory to encheos, to empower, he even reconnets it, against the

Magomede Ankalaev who is a guy who is a guy who is getting a lot of the F.C. Not being

in VICT on FEC, it's been finalized by Paul Craig, but is there in a great

sequence of victories, that's the time that's What do you What do you expect of this

Lutta? You think will be the Barretta continue the your recuperation or Ankalev

freer him more one way? It's a good lot but if we go see if we can

see it also for a second for a second of a last one he got

all the all the two, all the seconds and rounds and minutes of all

the the last lot of the last year. He was against the other than O'Brien. Quayette, he was puttard, he'd have, and Paul Craig, he'd take the triangle of the cartola. And, you know, and the I never will be a Rette the guy

most a lot capacity to try to try to any the last the last

the last the last the last he did the recuperer

the confidence in the confidence in all to look to

the my expectation is a victory of Al

Klae now now now but but it The Marreta

can be the first guy to be to be devot to Elokaneh to be like to dominate

Yeah Yeah To make the Make a Manxer and And then And then

And then And then Just a A finalization A second Yeah, De Revenue Perter a round

And Yeah, Like I I'm I'm like I I'm I'm back For three

Rounds You, You're Roll your Perns in A second And you are

The Veses Yeah this is the this is the beauty of MMA this is the this is the

Bres of BAT can be batting you can be able to the guy pavorando the other

and in a second the thing the thing Mughe with Roger that's that he

could have had been had had been with the but the rest the

was Colby and this this time it was it we can let me the

can come and dominate the Marrita a rate of a certain result of his, and it's just a result of his, it's it's a very much participation of the

Brazilian, it was a man in-in-vente, the Marlon Morais, contra the Chinese Song-Gi-Dong, and the Marlon Morass is in a position very difficult, in D. He's a, he needs, and, of fact, the victory, it's in the game, it's a good,

because he's a guy very good, a great-a-old, he did a career very good, and he did he, but he didn't, but he did he, but he didn't, as he, he was in-d-ser-c-c-fere-ferexed, over. There's good victories

too, not quite, but it's not a lot of this way, now, now,

he's not in this sequence of the good, you know, he's think the

job, you think he needs to the fact, the victory at any cost,

because if the house can't get to get in a job, he needs

and he needs to think that something always the point, the more pressure

the person in a series of a series of the Terrotas, the

guy's a man, he's a minute, during the the

fight, it's more difficult to you concentrate, to you perform. But I

believe, I believe on Marlon, I believe that he can wince

this lot and get a over a over or even

don't know, I'm the situation contractual of he, I

don't get to talk with him, but if if

he, not he doesn't he saw in a at a

little an lot and he can go to a other

good getting well I'm he did the movement

certain he had a camp very quite did

the way to go to go to new

new trainings new new new horizons and I

hope and the song and the song is a

good a good but we've seen he had some problems

there's a way to get a he's a he had he had some questionable there

for points so I believe yeah exactly not a guy that that's a person

that's so by other other other side when the Marlon went

the Robbent and the hegan we didn't not thought that they

were also and he's they've made a name of them in the way of the Marlon.

But I am sure that the Marlon can go to get to wince this

and be recuperate in the Fis As well I sign inbache what you said

the guy knows the guy knows and before we're to the program

with Balbino junior new new new trainer of Jujits of Amanda

Bucer Mahn Kitt I'd for the participation. Tell to the where they can find out of their

jobs, where they can't you know, where you know, in the United Social, well, I'm I'll invite

.com, the site of the combat, listening a podcast, Mood of Lutta, in the GE also,

that I, from other, I'm there, I'm there, I'm saying, and, and in the social,

I'm on Twitter, Adriano, reporter, and on Instagram, adriano, point the reporter. And now I'm

at the TikTok, see. What is. I'm too. I've I've been 40 years, but I'm a man who I'm a kiddustre. But you make a dance you know, you know, or is a job of serious,

journalistic? Serious, I don't have to be 100% on TikTok, but I still I didn't, I don't do anything. I'm trying to make

a mixture of those two, but I'm doing what's done. Oh, I'm anxious. What, I'm sorry. You're going to do this. You're going to be, me

to make to buy the application of the TikTok just to you're seeing this dog

I'm you're a dad, you're a yeah, you're just yeah will have

to be because the your daughter to be to be in the time that's

what's going to so I know, I've got I'm just to keep

monitoring my subrines my my friends people helping helping

the my my my my my my my

and also and also we have to be to be to

what the garotada is being because, after the public the alro of the MMA are not the people

of the city not the people of 16 years, 18, 20 years, many people who have

we have to be in contact with this guy. With a great much for participation.

Now, now, come out of the interview with Balbino junior. Valer Romo.

The other other side there is with Balbino Junior, trainer of Jiu-Nus of this

confusion of the video of the time, I'd like me to thank you so your time my time how are you do the time

in Las Vegas I'm I'm the guys I'm here all right now we're in we're here we're in the

middle of the conversations and so we just we're we're doing the we're gonna the morning

and then we have a foggazen until the night but it's all doing we know

we're doing we're doing the stuff is the stuff is the kind of the teams, how much is the climate

between the techniques, right? After the Julia Epang and Amanda Nunes, they're going to see to be front more one way for the Cintrauma

the end of the FECA. A Amanda Nouris had that never ever, that's ever, that's ever, how it's the two,

respect, there a little of rivalry there, there's a bit of a men, it's been a men, it's been a men, it's been

from the beginning, the two are being able to be able to so, so, not, not,

there, no, didn't, not, that he never, that's a great nice, the team

are very entrosed between us, both the team of the team of Juliana, they're in their house

together, so, so, for more that he has the question of the lot,

no final, they're all all the whole to the same, so, so the feedback that we have to our

team, is a, it's a, it's a good, it's a good, it's a

two, as I'm the two maybe, the two may have been so eviton, but until then,

we still have two weeks in the time, but until then it's all all, you know, I've been,

you know, someone who's a man, Donoise a lot of, yeah, has been a time at the M.M.

Masters, and now you are you need a American Top Team. How is it was this

contact for you back to work together? You've been surprised when she was trying

to come to say to America Top Team, you're to try to train her

I know this Amanda, we're very temer. We're from the same state, we're from the Bayia, and not I didn't know she was heard about her, and she'd was one of the pioneers in the Bayia to fight M.MA. So, when I came in Miami, in 2013, if I

was not me, she was in there that I was there that I was here that I met with Amanda. And we, and we, we have a amissade very great and we, we train us together We were together during three years

was the period that she was there was she went to after I'm to make a top team but we always

continued contact and we always we'd we'd train together and and so I'm I'm moved

from Florida to New York a one and a half and a we had always but that contact

physical of training we had no because I was in other state and then And then,

sobe the from the idea of her name the American Topintin and we didn't not was a

surprise because we had talked some of some some but when she really

took a decision we got so she she went and then she me procured and said

with me talked with the Tuf and me invited to do do part

of the team and to to the camp in her, for the second the Lutte with Juliana. So, so, this period

here in the Tuf, it's also for we just to start to bolar, a sequence of training and so, when we really

start the camp of her, we're with the same synony, at the same page. So we're we're here,

logico, working for the team, uh, We're here to be to be to the team of her. But with her

also we're starting a time in a job. Currently, you're doing in Vegas? No,

I'm doing in Vegas? Or I'm doing a place a place. We do our train here in

AIpex. We come, train the team, we have two hours. And, as we're we just amenda.

After the the person, we just do the person, we just do you know with her, and then

sometimes They've been an hour different, but we have trained here in the AIPEX, maybe. How is this Amanda that you're training today with that Amanda that you've been living many years ago,

how is you compare one, an athlete with the other? So, as, as well, I always say, I always say, I mean, Amanda, we and Amanda, we have a story, a we moved together, a time, we, we

brought together a year and a year, with seven people, in a house very was very little in the initial of her career there. So,

so, seeing Amanda as a person in that period and the Amanda, now, it's the same person,

no, it's the people, I'm always, I said, I'm still to the people, she, she

is a champion, she, she, she, is, poor, the, boy, the, best, athlete,

female, of all the times, did continue doing doing the story, and with the

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, no, an athlete, I

I'll say to you, Guilerm, that I see in Amanda today the same the same gana that I saw in the time of the MMAS

because she was a champion even there. So when you are champion for much time, defends the centurion, for various years and

it's complicated you maintain that same that same desire, today. Today Amanda she has

she has she wants to get to get to get back the centuron it's a different so I see

it's a same Amanda that I know in 2013 and I'm Amanda she is exceptional and with

this garra that she want to the new the new the right it's really unbatible

it's a question of time to this this centuron to come it's like it's complicated

you to be a focus, an objective, when you're there on top, a much time. So I used to say that we learn or we can't. We never perj.

And that incident that happened with Amanda not was a berth. It was an approach and it will be an incentive to her, to have to be

a new one something to bring back this stutrown to us. You think that obviously nobody likes to to be

understand, but I think this dervota was being good for her, it's a way, to

ascend this chamo? So, so, maybe, like, like,

like, like, I'm, like, she, she, she, really,

the focus of her, I think, it's being really, to bring the central to

back and, and, and, have this there, it's a matter to them,

so, So, like you said, I think she said she didn't go to the derot, nobody likes, but with her own this objective

to bring this signetka for her and will make a lot. It will be inevitable the comparisons, the expectations,

because we've used to see Amanda Nunn's in the last years training in America Topchin, with Kona, on the corner

with her, with the same team, always in all these the last lot, that made her to get to two centurons in the UFC.

It will have been to be a matter in this new team, how is it, how are the new trainers are working with her? You think that this adds to an pressure

more, not only only only just in front of you to make it to make a lot Amanda in the day that she was in revanch with her

Juliana? No, for me impression no, I believe that the for any of any other. For her, too, not. Amanda, she, she is an athlete that she, she

she knows, she knows what she is capable, you know, and so, she's at a point that she has to have to be with people who can't believe in her 100%, confine in it, comfortable to do a camp bacana,

I'm, I'm very confident. I'm very confident, is, is a, I'm, that we're going to do together. And she also

is very animated. At times the change, Guillermo, you know, for more that you just be there's

working with those coaches various years, but at least the change to give a more to the athlete,

so I think Amanda, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she, is the, will be the, will,

it, will, it, she, she, she, she, happened

forced, she said this move, and so we we're in the same, in the same synergy,

you know, the objective our time, she's, is to make, her, bring the ring,

the we know, what Amanda is a man, a man, is a man, a athlete,

and in the wrestling, in the Jiu-Git-S, she is a an athlete complete, so,

so, we have to make her with a a head good, comfortable for her,

really, to be in and be in the camp and to bring this truinal in. So, the part,

I believe, the part of our team, and she's no pressure no, we're in, we're in the

same, we're in the most important when you have a new team, you have to be all the same

in the same to know, to be the work to be, and what is the plan now? You're

doing the Tuf, will be more than some some of the time in the time of the what do you have in

terms of the revert of this revanch with a junior band? So, we're in two months for the Tuf

still, but the time, a date certain, uh, the people are speculating

July, August, the we don't have a, a date certain, but like, as I'm

I said, Amanda, she's just is we've just not we've we're doing some

we're doing some we're doing some and then marking the date and we're going

to do make the eight weeks and all this but I think

for the tuff because I think the final of the tuff will be the same

day the the the the the and the I think

that for there July or August should be going to

she she a collective in the launchment of the Tuf, explaining the decision of her to say to America Top Team, to create a new

team, that not be a team open up like a new team that's a thing, it's a thing, it's a thing that's

a thing more, more focused on it, these plans, I'm in Las Vegas, now the focus in a moment is another, but the idea

is doing a Florida, it's a space minor, what you are planning for this next past of her

now, I'm, Amanda, she's a, the first objective here, she wants a space to her, she wants a space

for her to train. And she'll be training with different trainers, as I said, form a team that she can't be able. Not have that

thing, I'm in America, Tapitin, have to be able to be able to be able. So, the objective principal of her in the moment not will be an academy abert.

She's doing a space for her initial, to train. With all the support, tatami, all this, that the academia

needs. And in the future, she thinks in form a team of MMA, I believe that all the

athlete, when when encerra a career as a leader, has this goal,

this objective to have a team and continue this work there. So the objective

of her first is this. There is a space of her, to be to be And in a future,

more to to the she'll, she'll then, she's, the team and

that's the focus now. So, that's the last years in an team with an team with

excellent trainers, she got over also, were from the American Top Team, I think were in

the SEMFord M&A, so she circled of the greaters trainers now,

after they call the Mechaltop Team. But my my question is, how she will do you do to make it to make a top

team is a team a bigot team is a bigot team is a great manned she has a money for this,

she has connections, she knows a lot of people, she's a starla, a idol of the MMA

so she can go back to contract a for people, but I think it's more difficult to replicate

this quality of sparring the quantity of sparring that she had a position in a team like America

Top Team in a small to her? So I believe that no, Guillermo,

because, like, a team very great at times sometimes it also, it's always

it's always there's a lot, so there's a lot, so the objective of the people

is a we're trying to find specific to Amanda to her to her replic

the style of Juliana and this thing and a we focus in this so I think

I think we have a support to be able to get in any of any in any of the like you have a lot of

a group is very great, there's a lot of material human but it's sometimes that maybe maybe

maybe maybe maybe I'm trapal a little the question of the

time Amanda today she can be well, she wants to be training, she wants to be, she wants to really focus in her training of her, without preoccupation. America

had a team very great, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people. So, we don't know if in a future, some of those athletes, can be adversaries Amanda in the future, you know? Like that's the

Kelle Harrison, is. Yeah, this is a thing that sometimes makes, you know? So, so, we're in a, we're in a, we're in a, we're really eliminate this, and Amanda

is well to train. In relation to to have material human, this then not will be a problem for we're going to

we're going to sit a team all and see the the best option and bring one, two, three people,

I believe that no need to more than this. We don't need to be ten people to do this person to

having the people certain, one or two is sufficient. Amanda, Amanda, like I

she has, Amanda, she has a baggie entire, this derrata that Amanda had, we don't can't, forgets all, all the credit to do you know, all the credits for Julianna, you know, Juliana went there, did a job

a great deal, all the credits for her. But, Amanda, if we get all the trajectory of Amanda, all the luts that Amanda did, and botar with this lute of

Juliana, Amanda, she not presented I think 30% of the potential of her, you know? I'm not

I don't want to arrange a disculpa here for nothing, as I said all the merit to Julianna.

But Amanda, in 100% of her, I believe that this centuron comes to and come

and, and it a form tranquill. What do you think she does that Ravage?

I am a suspect to say, but I think there a finalization there,

I think a finalization there I see Amanda doing a knockdown to Julianna and, of she'll be able to finalizing it. But,

we'll be prepared for all everything. Amanda will be in all the senses, she'll be well all the senses, she'll be all the situation that the luta will happen will be

and the objective our victory. She'll bring the stront of the return to the vote. No. No. No. No. No. if you're a finalization, but the objective is that the focus of the point of our own. To bring the centuron

to work, it's that she'll be focus. So, like, the form that will be, it's going to be, it's more.

It would be more good-gusting of a, of a finalization with another, no, with a certain, with a certain,

and so, the J-Gitza of Amanda, is very, is very, much, is a much good. Amanda is a façap

black I'm I'm a a face black of Jiu-Git's that's an adaptation

for MMI Amanda committed a lot of Jiu-Git's in the first of her career of her.

She has she has really really, very, very strong. And we will be

working these adjustments of her and all. It was a thing she a little

of a fact, to have a just so we're trying to she's so we're

just trying to just her, the position that she She'll get well, it's hard, so we'll be working this

really to her and I believe that she's getting in a position this, the finalization will be inevitable, it's a consequence

and so, so, so we're, we're trying to that she really, there's the payback there,

the finalization. Just to just to just to say about you, I want to your career of in M.

M.A. You've, you, you, pared to lut just, you've, had,

to some years, yeah, really enceiled there's a little, like, like,

like, as a way, maybe a move to do that a MMA. You're a C.

is 4-1 in MMA, yeah? Yeah, yeah, I, I, I,

I think, I'm, I'm, but, so, I think, all the lot of,

that, that, that, that, nothing, nothing, no, no,

no, don't have pre- no, no, don't, my filen now, I'm

I'm going to say, I want to say, I want to be my daughter and I'm going to so, so so in the future,

of a moment, do you know, but more this question, like, more for hobby, nothing professional, I'm going to

really focus, we're really, in this, this question of, the, of, so,

my focus, now, is being this, but I'm, but I'm never, never,

you know, never, you're, never, never, exactly. And for me, really I want that my daughter, I feel like I'm

looking at one year. So, when she was, she was, she was, there's been with two years, that she's getting a little bit more, of a bit of a bit of a parisown. Let me. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, for your time, in the middle of the Turf. Boa's sorts in the re-at-finals of the camp of Amanda for this revanch with a Juliana,

I, man. Oh, Gilear. Me, I'm what I'd like, thank you. Thank you, everyone, for the people, out of Brazil, mande all this energy positive to Amanda to the

next one the next the future and thank for the interview and it was a pleasure to have your

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