MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alexa Grasso: Zebra contra Valentina, brasileira na mira, e México no topo

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Responsável por uma das maiores zebras da história do esporte diante de Valentina Shevchenko, Alexa Grasso falou ao Trocação Franca sobre manter um cinturão do UFC no México, como quer vencer a ...lenda na revanche para provar que não foi sorte, qual brasileira pode ser sua próxima desafiante ao título, e muito mais. O podcast traz, ainda, um papo com Vicente Luque sobre a luta com Rafael dos Anjos e o susto que levou na última luta, quando sofreu um sangramento no cérebro. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alexa Grasso pulled off one of the biggest upsets in MMA history against Valentina Shevchenko to claim the UFC flyweight title. Now she chats with Trocação Franca about the upcoming rematch to prove it was no fluke, keeping the belt in Mexico, who’s next for the throne, and more. The podcast also features an interview with Vicente Luque ahead of his UFC main event bout with Rafael dos Anjos and returning from a scary brain bleed in his most recent fight. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:44 The downloaded two, Ghosts in the Machine, available now, only from Audible. The Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing
Starting point is 00:02:08 the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, lo, my friend of the first episode of the podcast
Starting point is 00:02:32 Trocazaan Franca, A Suhasa This Emmaver. I'm Glearni Cruz, correspondent of the site American on M.M.A. FIREO in Brazil, and I'm back
Starting point is 00:02:40 in this week the ULUstri of Mexica Graz, champion Pesomosca of the F.C. is responsible for one of the major
Starting point is 00:02:46 ebbs of the story of sport in the Valdina Javitchenko. The Sympastica that made part of the Hesikana that came to
Starting point is 00:02:53 this year, rebatant, various cintoras in FEC, now, try to carry a band of the
Starting point is 00:02:58 country in the world. In our conversation, she's a good a interview about the
Starting point is 00:03:03 future, about the revanch with the Valentina and who can be the the first
Starting point is 00:03:08 the final of the title. So, see the other side of the line now we have Alexa
Starting point is 00:03:18 Graso, champion pesed Mosca of UFC that in the year of the day of
Starting point is 00:03:22 September, I'll the tron the proxion of a lot of a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:03:27 welcome to the expectative for this revans for the Valentina? Well, I'm very very thank for the time
Starting point is 00:03:37 here. I'm very confident and I'm working very very strong I think will be a
Starting point is 00:03:43 lot more than the first so that's so I just I can promise that I will
Starting point is 00:03:51 do all all over all over all over I want to learn how you learn
Starting point is 00:03:58 who has that has it's It's very common who people who say, no, there's a Spanish basic,
Starting point is 00:04:05 who finge that has Spanish, because there are many things are similar, but when you talk with a Mexican,
Starting point is 00:04:09 and Ivers with Spanish, it's completely different, it's impossible to understand what you're how you're
Starting point is 00:04:14 how you're how you're how you're what you're going to do this way? I've learned Portuguese
Starting point is 00:04:20 because I know, I know, I got to the country, I used the Saturday of the Jizio
Starting point is 00:04:26 I, I, I, I saw some films, I also have
Starting point is 00:04:31 professors of Brazil so, no see, it's all I'm incajando a little
Starting point is 00:04:38 a little so, I'm don't know, I'm trying, I'm doing more every day,
Starting point is 00:04:44 to learn books, so, no see, a culture very beautiful I, I'm a
Starting point is 00:04:50 good of her, so I'm so I'm just, I'm also, I'm
Starting point is 00:04:55 also, I love too to learn many things. What
Starting point is 00:04:57 What type of film you you watched? Much, I was seeing some series of Netflix I saw a little of a accident that Brazil
Starting point is 00:05:11 had with many young and so and also also to know the culture of the country.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Uh-huh, I mean and there also the Alexander and the Diego, imagine
Starting point is 00:05:22 that in day-a-day- you know in Portuguese, Spanish, in Portunio or how the
Starting point is 00:05:27 contact with them in day-a-day. Sure, because they are my professors, so many times I'm very often say, no, I don't say this,
Starting point is 00:05:38 or not say this, or not say this. So it's good, to be able to me to teach and also to say more my Portuguese.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Manier. And how is the life now how is the world? I imagine has moved much in your
Starting point is 00:05:53 day-to-must the ced in Mexico and the fans, people who are your attention, interviews, appearances, how can't be able to a life now as a champion of C?
Starting point is 00:06:07 My life is very simple. I like to be a person who is a trainer and and descansa, train and and he descans
Starting point is 00:06:15 because all the years are like is my formula to have the success of today because
Starting point is 00:06:24 I don't do nothing more than to train and to work and eat that's
Starting point is 00:06:31 all the thing that's very important for me to maintain a life
Starting point is 00:06:35 focused all the time because now it's much more difficult
Starting point is 00:06:41 you know what I was being a champion that
Starting point is 00:06:44 was my dream my my life I I
Starting point is 00:06:47 have I need so I need to be
Starting point is 00:06:51 more more my areas. It's it. Maintair my life simple,
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm always focused, training. This is all. My life is equal.
Starting point is 00:07:02 What you did? What did? What was about the war? No,
Starting point is 00:07:09 no, it was more of her, it was more of me, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:14 I also am strong, and I am able with me no a lot is easy.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm not so an opponent for nobody. So, so I just I have
Starting point is 00:07:26 a hour two missions so it's that I want to do you have been
Starting point is 00:07:32 I'm I just feel what is finalize one two people with two people
Starting point is 00:07:39 with I always I always I'm I'm pretty in the other but
Starting point is 00:07:44 not happened but now I want I want I want to
Starting point is 00:07:49 finish more so that I so is all that you want to you can't
Starting point is 00:07:57 you can get really but you have to work very very, is what I learned be sure
Starting point is 00:08:04 to be being because I'm working working so it is to know that you
Starting point is 00:08:10 can't this this lute but will be in an event a little different what the
Starting point is 00:08:16 F.C. The Nott UFC is a for a lot of a date important
Starting point is 00:08:20 of Mexico what what is what what is what the this for you, to be to be able to carry the
Starting point is 00:08:26 the banner of Mexico in this week, the EFSI doing an event with this themeatic important to Mexico also. Wow, imagine. It's something great for me. I've been
Starting point is 00:08:38 an event a little bit of an event, but a little bit of an little bit of an hour, I'll be to move the arena. Aene. Aene. A arena very great, many of this, I've just, I've just, I've just, you've
Starting point is 00:08:49 I've just, yeah, I'm just, so It's very important. It's also important that not it's pre-per-view, because many people in Mexico will be able to assist in an event. So, this for me is very, very important that I'd like to look at
Starting point is 00:09:07 in Mexico, but not was possible. So the cause is good is that many people will be able to go to ja, to be a lot. Many people in Mexico will be able to assist the lute in live. So it's what makes it very good. for me. I just want to
Starting point is 00:09:24 apart that the 16 September is very important for Mexico. So I know I like now. It's a example of how to to fight really versus Sonians.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Generally, the champions and defiantes want to look at a payper-view to see if gain a extra of the percentual, the points of PPVille, a grandin more, but for you not being the PPVIL, it
Starting point is 00:09:50 has been positive for this also because there will have more people in in your country, you know
Starting point is 00:09:55 in the world, it's not the first time that the UFC did it
Starting point is 00:10:01 do you know many times. They were very and I do well I'm
Starting point is 00:10:06 very, I don't know I'm going to be and I don't know I'm very treated by the UFC.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I said that I said to them that I said I'll do all to do
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm just supposed to have a pay-to-view. No Mexico, in the Mexico, no I'm in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:25 They said, okay, this is the first proba to be. And the year to Mexico,
Starting point is 00:10:33 it's very very well with various champions, but it was the dispute with the
Starting point is 00:10:39 other Amanda, the there, he had, and he had been a bit more, you're
Starting point is 00:10:43 a, a, a, a, a, a, a, you, of responsibility, to be
Starting point is 00:10:46 now the Mexican that's with a centuron, the only centauron in the moment of the Mexico, no FC? No, no, it's no pressure any. I'm confident of my job.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Of course, that each person has their own their own a proper camillard. It's different for each other who is important
Starting point is 00:11:11 that we can not not can't forget all the they just did
Starting point is 00:11:16 they're before they're they're they're very good athletes
Starting point is 00:11:22 they will get to get champion but now
Starting point is 00:11:26 my focus my my training my training I
Starting point is 00:11:30 go for for for for have this syndrome
Starting point is 00:11:33 here in Mexico and and this this this
Starting point is 00:11:37 lot will have the Emmy you you are
Starting point is 00:11:41 with with with various You're with the Melor finalization, the major zebra,
Starting point is 00:11:46 that here in Brazil is called the zebra upset I don't know how it in Mexico that's
Starting point is 00:11:51 the breakthrough fighter, which is the revelation and the lot of the four trophels
Starting point is 00:11:57 that you can get to the list of concorrentes you're the best you have the four, you
Starting point is 00:12:03 have to get the I always never I never never never for
Starting point is 00:12:08 these awards never never but this I'm very happy
Starting point is 00:12:14 because it's my work I'm a I'm working so they're so
Starting point is 00:12:21 are cocines know important until the final is a material but
Starting point is 00:12:28 but everything comes to be in these lists with all those these
Starting point is 00:12:33 great athletes is very important and the fact of you are
Starting point is 00:12:38 the fact of you are the the time of surprise for many people, what was,
Starting point is 00:12:44 the first of the victory and the fact of the valentina, because you were a azarone
Starting point is 00:12:49 in the house of a post, in the steak, not the fat personator, and now, you even
Starting point is 00:12:55 having been been finished, the first having been finalized, her, and you're looking at
Starting point is 00:13:00 three to one of azarone of a other, how is you see this? You think
Starting point is 00:13:05 that this shows the time of the balance of the story, or you I went to
Starting point is 00:13:11 I went to I finished in this of the same to be a badgeron even, to three to
Starting point is 00:13:16 one in this battle, having been the first in this question, you know, the more
Starting point is 00:13:21 the difficulty, you have to work the mass, you have to do, I see, I saw,
Starting point is 00:13:30 that she was a, it was a lot, a lot, I'm a lot, it's a story,
Starting point is 00:13:36 not, it's the night, and the morning. She's she worked much,
Starting point is 00:13:40 many, many, many, many of the time for me penalized this was very
Starting point is 00:13:46 important because I also like of disciplinata and respect a I'm
Starting point is 00:13:53 like I said I worked very, very, so so I
Starting point is 00:13:57 work and I work and it's to say the world champion
Starting point is 00:14:03 is the first of my story you know I respect
Starting point is 00:14:07 much of her So she I've I just many things that I
Starting point is 00:14:12 want to be I'm going to be a champion much seven, eight, nine, as to what's
Starting point is 00:14:17 many times I've had the opportunity to have so at so the first of
Starting point is 00:14:22 the first and who are going to make a question, Alexa Grazs winning for you think you
Starting point is 00:14:32 can't be going to knockoutier but like I said I also I want to I want to finish
Starting point is 00:14:40 to know another matalelon because the people don't not think it was sort and it was a merriot
Starting point is 00:14:46 not was nothing I had I had my plan very, very clear I knew
Starting point is 00:14:52 I was to go so it's that's it was that it's all it's so it can be
Starting point is 00:15:00 no couch no no see but I can't just to keep we know
Starting point is 00:15:05 that the focus is now in the Valentina, but looking the category, and who you think you think you
Starting point is 00:15:08 think you're the next to put a main to make a last year, Mace and recently gained Amanda Riba's
Starting point is 00:15:13 a real knockout and said she she's a champion or not that she want to be a R. Brankville
Starting point is 00:15:20 confronting the Taila Santos. What you see, saying in the front there
Starting point is 00:15:25 by the next chance to the centuron? Sure. The 125 have a list very
Starting point is 00:15:31 great of the next lotters that can be the contendenters also we have
Starting point is 00:15:37 a new acquisition Rose Numid she could have she will she will she
Starting point is 00:15:43 was a number one so the the winner the winner of the winner
Starting point is 00:15:49 could say the Erin also very very but but that
Starting point is 00:15:52 Taela you you know before she is I was I was
Starting point is 00:15:57 also I was a little the little controversial so
Starting point is 00:16:00 so the four are the who the most the most the next contendent
Starting point is 00:16:07 have been someone that's your preference in terms of the question of
Starting point is 00:16:12 terms of the importance historical? All have every one has
Starting point is 00:16:19 their form is different but clearly Rose there's much
Starting point is 00:16:25 history she was a champion of Strohwe I would I would I respect
Starting point is 00:16:31 much her her her her so her also
Starting point is 00:16:33 was a very strong, very good, many, many, many, many,
Starting point is 00:16:36 many, things, she's, she's very important, so, it's
Starting point is 00:16:40 it's a could be her, could be very young, very young, she has
Starting point is 00:16:45 a, a, a, a, a jitz very good, so, so,
Starting point is 00:16:50 yeah, all, there's, many things, really, Tyler, Tail,
Starting point is 00:16:54 is very, very, very, very, very fort, that Tail, and the Manon
Starting point is 00:16:59 Furo also, very very Chutts. Chutes are very F chutes.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Chutes are very very very so, so there many things important,
Starting point is 00:17:11 it's different, it's difficult, so I like very always to compete. I'm very competitive,
Starting point is 00:17:18 so what are of them? You think that Rose will have a good performance in this
Starting point is 00:17:23 division? Because about the question of the question of how you're
Starting point is 00:17:25 how you think you think that she is talking about my experience
Starting point is 00:17:31 I mean my transition 115-125 So it could be It could be, it could be When you're taking on your train At 155 After 15, it's very facile So I can give a lot of surprise
Starting point is 00:17:52 Manila, Alex, thank you very much Thank you very much for your time Thank you, parades for the Portuguese, it's very good And good, it's good, it's good, it's approved Thank you very for your time and good luck in this preparation
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Starting point is 00:18:21 the shus and the shusd the when suffered a sangraming the Cereverver
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Starting point is 00:19:35 On the other side of the line, we have been doing the final of the next FC against Raphael of the Ange. Vicente, well, in the world of the podcast but we have the expectation to to return to octagon, after a year, literally,
Starting point is 00:19:46 from your last a lot, now, on a new a few rounds against Raphael of the Ange. Fala, Guillermo, and, for me always, it's a pleasure to be here.
Starting point is 00:19:57 The expectative is the better, I think, that, no doubt now was the major period for the
Starting point is 00:20:02 time, but it was a period very good where I could make various adjustments
Starting point is 00:20:07 that I needed, and I have seen a evolution very great. So I
Starting point is 00:20:12 am very excited for this lute, I'm very excited to get
Starting point is 00:20:14 to get to and I can do that I do you do this
Starting point is 00:20:18 and now I think on a level much major
Starting point is 00:20:21 I think this in the I we the last
Starting point is 00:20:26 of Off New, and it and it's first you first you took a time there's a time, I'm a
Starting point is 00:20:32 time of the company, you had to get you're in you're going to get to get a car,
Starting point is 00:20:36 to get back, so you imagineable that was being that time to time, until until
Starting point is 00:20:42 to do that was a time, how was this process to be how it was so that
Starting point is 00:20:47 then? Then, then, after the last I, I had a suspension
Starting point is 00:20:51 of six months, so I had to take that, like, take a
Starting point is 00:20:56 time and I I started to try to look at positive. So I was very patient, not I didn't feel agonied to goate, and the plan was to go to July, August.
Starting point is 00:21:08 This was the plan, to go to do that in July or August. So it was a period where I could work very and really is to work the fundamentals, in
Starting point is 00:21:19 train more for the pleasure of training, that was something that I was not a lot. So I started the lot of the chan, trainar,
Starting point is 00:21:27 train, all these different areas. So, it was getting can't get a lot of, it was always trainable for a
Starting point is 00:21:35 lot, for an adversary specific, game plan, study, does this, and then you have to train very limited.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I think in this period I was focusing in training the Viscente, train what the Viscente
Starting point is 00:21:48 can, you can move me, I'd be to work in a situation that normally
Starting point is 00:21:52 I don't me would when we in camp, we train to wincer. So I will be always
Starting point is 00:21:58 in my area, trying to work my area. In the period where I not had a lot and didn't
Starting point is 00:22:05 have any perspective of the I could put, for example, on the the ground,
Starting point is 00:22:11 me to put in a situation difficult, where I generally don't want to be to
Starting point is 00:22:16 to be able to be able to be doing too. So I think it was very important
Starting point is 00:22:22 for me and it was a I think that were a sum of factors a little of the destiny even what had to happen
Starting point is 00:22:30 I had to be I had to be a suspension so I didn't get to be a little he said with me that was interesting
Starting point is 00:22:37 I heard some people also talked with me I just with my family we also also saw that was positive
Starting point is 00:22:44 so various things were me showing that really it was a period to give
Starting point is 00:22:49 a encostada there and replan restructurate all. It's that I always I always listen, that the lotator, he evolute,
Starting point is 00:22:59 he evolute, when he's not a lot of the time all the time total, you're always always pulling to camp, and then you're
Starting point is 00:23:06 like a school-in-artial to evolve technically without thinking in an adversary. Yes, I think that this is a
Starting point is 00:23:15 maybe, it's been a error that I committed. I don't say that was a time, me allavancor
Starting point is 00:23:22 much in the category, I think it was important in that moment, but today, in a moment and in a level that I'm going to, I see that I need to be more time to do more time in the lutas to putt
Starting point is 00:23:36 to be a evolution, because everyone in this level is studying much. I have 19 luts in the FC, so the people start to see my patterns, come to see what, what is the Vincent Luce,
Starting point is 00:23:46 how I will gain of so I need to be reinventing, to be bringing something and for this I need to
Starting point is 00:23:52 I need to not be not going to be able to get me move. With the same,
Starting point is 00:23:58 you said the last time, the last time the last the suspension medical in six months, but in general
Starting point is 00:24:03 this suspension there, just a medical there, that the guy, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:07 it's never, but it never, but it in your exams, the commission had to
Starting point is 00:24:11 the law when Raphael was marked to be in July, but it was after
Starting point is 00:24:15 the commission had some the commission did some, in the part medical, that's that's the person of a attention major. So,
Starting point is 00:24:24 so initially, the suspension that I had was a suspension medical of six months, and it was long after the
Starting point is 00:24:31 the lute. So, I had some, I had some, like, to be in hospital to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:24:37 see that was all right. And, so, I don't have, I, I,
Starting point is 00:24:42 I have, a, a little sangamement, so, so, but not evolved. So, so,
Starting point is 00:24:51 the moment that I came in an observance, and not so did develop. All right, it was, like, it was,
Starting point is 00:24:58 so, I was liberated two days after, so I was there just went there and I was there even for observation. And then,
Starting point is 00:25:05 for security, I had this suspension of six months, that I've been, including, it was a suspension
Starting point is 00:25:11 of the luta. I opted for never did sparring during six months. So, during six months, I trained
Starting point is 00:25:18 just a shone, wrestling, preparation physical, much a manopla, much work technical, of a trocaation, and then I did
Starting point is 00:25:24 sparring, to really be 100 recuperated. So, the commission, I lute in Las Vegas,
Starting point is 00:25:31 and then, what I understood is that, like, the commission of Las Vegas, she was
Starting point is 00:25:37 me suspended for a year, but I didn't know, and they just were to ask for this when it was
Starting point is 00:25:43 marked my Lute that they advised them an F. And then the F.C. And then the F.C.
Starting point is 00:25:47 it had to remark the and go to a set of because they were exiging
Starting point is 00:25:54 more exams that were more neurologists like me liberating. I'm going to three and the three
Starting point is 00:26:02 and all those three, me gave liberations 100. The guys even were to say,
Starting point is 00:26:07 I was that I was able to do the exam to do that when I did it
Starting point is 00:26:13 so I think that I see this with good eyes because I
Starting point is 00:26:18 I see that, so the commission as they're so they're so they're so
Starting point is 00:26:22 so so so we're not the important because our health
Starting point is 00:26:27 we're like, we're to be going to be competing but
Starting point is 00:26:31 our our health has been to be in first place
Starting point is 00:26:35 and I think that what was it was something was something
Starting point is 00:26:39 something something not too they're very very countelos
Starting point is 00:26:42 but but thanks to all all all all
Starting point is 00:26:47 100% recuperated and, and ready to get a show if God's that I'm sure. That's what
Starting point is 00:26:54 important, but imagine how is you think it's like you think you have a same thing to
Starting point is 00:26:59 a person, it's a thing for the end of the career, how is you when you have you
Starting point is 00:27:05 had this recceion not just of career but also like sequels for the
Starting point is 00:27:09 for the for the people know that the life is a lot is a
Starting point is 00:27:13 career a very serious. I think I'm be calm, I think, and at the same time, I think I always I always took me
Starting point is 00:27:23 in a situation where I'm trying a 100% to my M.A. So I understand that they'd, I don't imagine, I would that one day would happen, but I knew that if it would
Starting point is 00:27:32 be done, I'm ready, I'm I'm disposed to all. So I think, in this point of this I became very tranquil, but the two days there, and the first week, I'm
Starting point is 00:27:42 I'll say that that first semester, really existed much a question about and this was, and it was if I
Starting point is 00:27:51 could or not continue to not continue to the M.A. So, depending of the events, if I don't
Starting point is 00:28:00 have me recuperated, I, I'm recuperated, maybe the doctors not me liberates to go back
Starting point is 00:28:06 to looker. And then, this was a thing that me preoccuped, because it was
Starting point is 00:28:10 in risk the I like to do the thing the most we do do this the most ampsing
Starting point is 00:28:15 that I'm a lot of and I'm going to be my dream to be a champion I want to
Starting point is 00:28:22 get to get this song so really it was a thing I think in my
Starting point is 00:28:28 career me put to think so you can't come something and try
Starting point is 00:28:33 everything and I'm I think me got a attention but
Starting point is 00:28:38 even it was positive because me made look more
Starting point is 00:28:41 more serious The my development technical, especially in the procaation had some years,
Starting point is 00:28:47 that I went to go into to the war, much to the porrada and so, I goent
Starting point is 00:28:54 porrada, I'm good to tryation and I will continue and I'm going, but I
Starting point is 00:28:58 think I don't developing the ability in the way, I could the esquiva,
Starting point is 00:29:07 the defense, the movementation. So are things that I , to look more,
Starting point is 00:29:13 to work more and see this development happen to happen and you said that's talking about to make a sparring during six
Starting point is 00:29:21 months, for complication to be able to do you, but you did sparring for this lot? Because many people, the people have to
Starting point is 00:29:29 talk about, you know, to sparrhe, some don't do any sparring before the how is you did it now
Starting point is 00:29:35 in this camp for Raphael? I did, I did see sparring, but in a volume very different
Starting point is 00:29:42 than before and much more focused I did doffin so far in in Lovina
Starting point is 00:29:48 he's not so far in a lot it's not a lot, it's much so I focused
Starting point is 00:29:55 in this and I think very positive so I think that from I think
Starting point is 00:29:59 back from a thing that I had analyzed in the period that I
Starting point is 00:30:04 didn't do sparrin I didn't make really very good
Starting point is 00:30:10 because I took more time to give attention the part technical. The SPR is something that
Starting point is 00:30:15 demand a lot of the body. So he even prejudica the next the next training, because you're
Starting point is 00:30:20 being tired, you're there's a really, so I took the SPR in that period and I could give
Starting point is 00:30:27 more other trains and substitute SPRs for other trainers with more quality. So I
Starting point is 00:30:33 think in the period that I don't have lute, I don't will make SPR, I think I
Starting point is 00:30:38 will focus really in are doing training technical, me and doing and to
Starting point is 00:30:44 get the sparring more to the period to the particular to the specific of camp and
Starting point is 00:30:48 like I did not in a volume different I'm focusing more in really optimising this sparring
Starting point is 00:30:56 to use it, more for development of what I want to do you want to
Starting point is 00:31:02 not not to not say in the time all the because if I'm going
Starting point is 00:31:06 to put in hours of the how I have, I have much, I have many experiences. So I think this is a thing that's a quality
Starting point is 00:31:14 I've been perceiving. Today I've been perceiving, I have more of 30 hours of sparrie. It's a moment where I know that sensation of the sparring and all that I think
Starting point is 00:31:29 I've passed from where I need to learn this and I post more to a lot technical, different of a guy who's coming. The guy who is
Starting point is 00:31:36 coming when he really needs that he's even because he don't have many the lot of
Starting point is 00:31:40 he don't have much there's a lot of that he's much of the moment of
Starting point is 00:31:45 the career too. You think will get the moment that you will start to start
Starting point is 00:31:48 to do you not? You know, that can't do a camp in a lot
Starting point is 00:31:52 without some some, some, some, some, some, some,
Starting point is 00:31:55 some, I don't know, I think, it, it can be it, it will depend much,
Starting point is 00:31:59 so, it, it, of my my body, of how I'm
Starting point is 00:32:02 I think I think I think I think I I'm going to hear a
Starting point is 00:32:05 hear I'm I think I think I'm a person that's superer
Starting point is 00:32:13 everything I'm always try to do my heart and do my
Starting point is 00:32:17 maximum but it's many times negligence and ignore
Starting point is 00:32:22 what my body talking so I think I think I know
Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm to do I'm also and I'm I
Starting point is 00:32:29 the a tool if I don't maintain it well I don't can't get
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'm going to I'm in the 40 years and I'm and I'm going to be not I'm not going
Starting point is 00:32:40 because enter there is a thing for me I have I have the courage and the
Starting point is 00:32:48 position to get there but I want to get to be competitive so so to
Starting point is 00:32:52 continue to maintain this competitivity at an time I think I need
Starting point is 00:32:57 I need my your body. So I think it's going to depend
Starting point is 00:33:00 much of this maybe in a moment really to try a time
Starting point is 00:33:03 be a option. Today even I see like it's positive
Starting point is 00:33:12 the SPR but with the quantity of I have not relevant
Starting point is 00:33:18 as was so I'm so so I know when does
Starting point is 00:33:22 part of me so is a thing I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:33:25 condition to do Spine, he is much more for an adjustment technical and to I test the strategies that I planned with my trainers. And it's a one of the
Starting point is 00:33:37 thing, that's, that's, that's positive, but it's so necessary as it was an earlier, and it's part that you tested, that you're, that prepared for Raphael of the Ange, how you're you ever
Starting point is 00:33:49 this other? Because he's a guy like, as you, a guy who likes to go to a porrada, goes to do a lot-on, that no, you know, that's important to the choward his own,
Starting point is 00:33:58 he's a job of the shone super-efficient, the guy finalizer. You think he will, for this
Starting point is 00:34:03 this is he will make a more to put you in a grade there, securial, desacelerer the the rhythm of
Starting point is 00:34:11 the luteon, try to try to to put back, use the jukits, and what what do you
Starting point is 00:34:15 think you do you think that you're going to be my head because I'm a car, a guy,
Starting point is 00:34:24 And it's a guy he has he has he has a quality so in the wrestling
Starting point is 00:34:31 of his putting him in the grader, he botta a pressure really a guy
Starting point is 00:34:36 he's got he's he's loted in he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:34:40 he's he's he's I'm he's he's he's going to
Starting point is 00:34:45 use these five rounds to he so if you're going to
Starting point is 00:34:50 be going to be doing you don't I don't say exactly for where he
Starting point is 00:34:56 will want to start, but I think he will want to start like, subing the rhythm to try to try and
Starting point is 00:35:03 try to those last rounds. Where he has more experience, I've lute five rounds
Starting point is 00:35:09 one way so. So I think it's that I can't be in it, and it's
Starting point is 00:35:14 that I am to me preparing to to put five rounds in auto-intensity
Starting point is 00:35:19 is what I like, I go, I go to have a pace out. So, So I can't have this during
Starting point is 00:35:24 the five rounds. The only the lute was with the Belal. I ended up having that but physically, I mean, I felt very well. I could look at the five rounds, without, uh, , having any problem in question of gas,
Starting point is 00:35:38 and question of force. It really was more detail, strategic. I came back on that lute. So I, I think there will be a lot that really will have to do all. Because I, as them, are the athletes, are the athletes,
Starting point is 00:35:51 complete. We have a danger in the ground, a perigue in the end. So I think that will be a lot of the
Starting point is 00:35:57 fans, there will be to do all level. Look, he's a guy that's he's been
Starting point is 00:36:03 into the topes of the pezo levy, just he disputed the centeron in the middle
Starting point is 00:36:08 but many we thought that the way, it's not the way, but it's but it's
Starting point is 00:36:15 the course of the time it's not worth the time it's there's a one of a victory
Starting point is 00:36:20 to dispute not the scenario actual for him no the he's he's
Starting point is 00:36:25 a medium you think this is this is a different you're a medium a real
Starting point is 00:36:30 natural and he's a little more to cut a piece after to have
Starting point is 00:36:35 been much this decision you think that the question of the
Starting point is 00:36:40 power or you think that in the other he against he
Starting point is 00:36:43 and he and the type of he don't make some fact that that will me
Starting point is 00:36:51 auxillar, I think it's a positive for me, but I don't think it will be the
Starting point is 00:36:55 will differentiate the lute a lot, it's a lot, I think I'm going to be the
Starting point is 00:37:00 more so maybe I'm more force, this will be positive in the grappling,
Starting point is 00:37:05 especially that maybe he can't me give that he put a back to me back
Starting point is 00:37:11 to me can't be going to be a more than he's a more than he will
Starting point is 00:37:18 try to certainly much the velocity. So, it's something I'm talking also to focus on the minimum so
Starting point is 00:37:26 rapidly as he, because it's a thing that is very important in the lot, especially in the part in-pe is this
Starting point is 00:37:33 velocity of entrances and side to see, to see, and I think, that's a advantage in a question of
Starting point is 00:37:41 force, but in the velocity I have to be able to be able to be more force than he to be
Starting point is 00:37:48 peccing in the velocity and, uh, and, uh, this detail
Starting point is 00:37:52 there's, he'll not to keep to accompany the rhythm of his name. With the where you
Starting point is 00:37:57 think this victory you put in the category, because Rafael, since he finished he did he
Starting point is 00:38:00 finalized the Bram Marbarina, very well, he's, he not, he's not in this division,
Starting point is 00:38:07 because he's he's rankyed even in no way, but not you can say much thing, he's a
Starting point is 00:38:12 guy, a champion, the guy the guy, you know, you think that this victory you put on
Starting point is 00:38:15 in terms of ranking in terms of a rink in terms of a courting in terms of the contortals defend the centuron against gamarer,
Starting point is 00:38:22 but for no mark a lot, because the Kmaeb subed to division, it's been in this lot,
Starting point is 00:38:28 even more with the purpose of the final, you know, that's a difference, you know, you go to
Starting point is 00:38:32 where you're in this category? I think that in this moment I don't could be a lot better,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I think it a lot ideal, Rafael, a guy, a guy who has a lot
Starting point is 00:38:43 story in the FC, he's he's he's a lot of a lot
Starting point is 00:38:46 level, he's a rank in the 70 kilos that is, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:52 with the set set, the category more of the FC, so, so,
Starting point is 00:38:55 so, so, so, I think, it's a point positive, including,
Starting point is 00:39:01 uh, have, to get, a victory over a guy, so, it's a
Starting point is 00:39:05 point positive, and I think this moment of the category, really,
Starting point is 00:39:09 like you He said, the Leon is the champion. He's just a champion. He's just a time without. He's quite a time without. It's a brother. There's a bellar. He's a man, but not can't speak a dispute. So, really, it's a moment
Starting point is 00:39:24 positive for me, let's say. I can't have me uproveting to get me alavancar. And I think that this is a possibility to do this. For being a ex-campiom, for being a lot principal, for be a style of a lot of
Starting point is 00:39:40 that's a lot of this is a lot of this is a lot of this luteau and depending of how I enter there and get to
Starting point is 00:39:47 this victory, it can be a lot of the year, something, it's spectacular that it can be
Starting point is 00:39:53 me alavancan so I think that this is the point that I see in this luta, it's a look that
Starting point is 00:39:58 it's that you try to back to that that the top. And then
Starting point is 00:40:03 really being waiting and, I'm not going to the enrolah the category but I think
Starting point is 00:40:08 focusing in this victory, with a certain I'm put down in a patamar
Starting point is 00:40:14 very good for a future proffer. What do Kohlbe? Potentially be the
Starting point is 00:40:21 potentially be the prox to puttional a year and a year and got from a pastime of
Starting point is 00:40:30 a car to do Duralinuil and even as soon cogits me much about him be the future
Starting point is 00:40:36 I think he's a character very bad I think a personage but there's people who got the idea of the opinion of each other and stuff, for example,
Starting point is 00:41:05 who's a guy who went to, like, I'm in, for the time, he's in, he's in
Starting point is 00:41:10 a lot of, but the guy went to the lot, but the aspect of sportive of the merit,
Starting point is 00:41:16 it would be unquestionable that the Belalb would be the person, but then
Starting point is 00:41:19 the market and the Colby potentially be the possible to be the
Starting point is 00:41:24 central the central central. I think that's a situation very complicated because I
Starting point is 00:41:29 really, like you spoke, sportively not no, and when you look
Starting point is 00:41:34 marketing, I understand a but the Kobe is a little apagated too the Kobe yeah not that's
Starting point is 00:41:42 that he was there was last time when he was two, it was two, it was two two,
Starting point is 00:41:48 two, two, I think, I think it another moment, I think that maybe they're really
Starting point is 00:41:56 trying, uh, bring a light there to this dispute of the centuron, but I don't know, I think
Starting point is 00:42:02 I would with Belal I think can't build to a story for the revent
Starting point is 00:42:07 and he's the revent so now we're going to be this revenge and the Belal
Starting point is 00:42:12 merit too I'm I'm I'm I'm one of the guys that he ran over he's over
Starting point is 00:42:18 he's with him with him he's with him he looked with the Shamb Brady
Starting point is 00:42:23 in the prohers in the first round so it so it's a guy that came
Starting point is 00:42:28 most when he sometimes like it was with with theurin is a lot
Starting point is 00:42:34 that he's more in the security he not he's a risk I'm I'm in't this
Starting point is 00:42:38 maybe as this is always it's always is over what the what the UFC can't
Starting point is 00:42:42 but there's a time that's there's a riche of victory and
Starting point is 00:42:47 I'm I'm I'm I'm not I'm not I'm don't I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:42:54 going to let's be I'm going to try my my space there
Starting point is 00:42:58 I think the cobb he's he's he's made a lot good with a
Starting point is 00:43:03 lot of consolation, you're like that's a second better of category, but you're not got the
Starting point is 00:43:09 champion, then, so, do the way, but you know, and then you know,
Starting point is 00:43:13 and then you get a little person, he, put a guy and then, you know, and then,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you're, and you're a prova, there's a opportunity for the sultoron. They could do you know,
Starting point is 00:43:28 Leon Edwards against the Belal and to Bote Khamennav Kamao against the Kobi 3
Starting point is 00:43:37 and then the guys are in a third lot and if the Kobi can't and be able it's a
Starting point is 00:43:45 possibility there's a option you don't fall no Baxter you know so you
Starting point is 00:43:51 do you do do you do your do you do you work I'm working
Starting point is 00:43:54 working while they don't decide they're doing doing doing the work
Starting point is 00:44:01 and calling the attention for the water. Fine, good, thank you. Thank you. Good, good source
Starting point is 00:44:07 in this RETA final of the Lutte and Rhebenta in the Landoah Mew. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to see
Starting point is 00:44:15 the guy that always support too. And we'll do a show. It's be a dispute of Brazil,
Starting point is 00:44:20 but I know the people of Brazil don't but I love to but I guess that if
Starting point is 00:44:24 there two Brazilians lotano is because we're in the more high
Starting point is 00:44:28 level, no the major event of the world. So this is a, for me,
Starting point is 00:44:32 it's a satisfaction, like a Brazilian, to be able to be a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:37 a lot of a show, one of the two go to go to and it's important, let me
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