MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alexandre Pantoja explica finalização de olhos fechados no UFC
Episode Date: December 7, 2023No auge da sua carreira e sem se deixar levar pela modinha de trash talk do MMA atual, Alexandre Pantoja quer fazer história no UFC. Campeão dos moscas, Pantoja falou ao Trocação Franca sobre a ...defesa de título contra Brandon Royval, na próxima semana, explicou por que finaliza de olhos fechados no MMA, se cogita subir ao peso galo para enfrentar Sean O’Malley e Deiveson Figueiredo, e muito mais. O podcast traz ainda uma entrevista com Luana Santos, que volta ao octógono sábado em Las Vegas. In his prime and uninterested in joining MMA’s trash-talk trend, Alexandre Pantoja vows to make history in the UFC. The flyweight champion returns to Trocação Franca to discuss his upcoming rematch with Brandon Royval at next week’s UFC 296, why he closes his eyes to work on submissions, if he’s into the idea of moving up to bantamweight to fight Sean O’Malley or Deiveson Figueiredo, and more. The podcast also features an interview with Luana Santos ahead of Saturday’s UFC Vegas event. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Seniors, in command of podcast,
Trocazone Franca,
and representing the MNN.
and a fighting in Brazil,
Guillermo
Cruz.
On a week,
on the 10th-108 episode
of the podcast,
Troca's Frank,
at your house,
about the spina
this immense ball of the spheria.
I'm going to
Mr.Cruis, correspondent
of the site
American on M.M.I.
FIREO in the Brazil,
and we're
in the company of
the champion
Pesomosk
of the official
Alexander and Pantoja
that I'll
put the centurion
in the game
in the next
year in Las Vegas.
Bevind
welcome to
my podcast,
Miu,
how is
the anxiety to
enter in
the jaula
about the first
first time
now as a
champion
to defend
the title
to bring the
contra
Voiselle.
Fala
Guy,
be able to
talk about
talking with
you guys
to get to
get to get
to get to
the centuron
and,
boy,
I'm armadown
I think
I think
not could
be living
a
better
life,
I'm
this hour
of champion
this
grant
that pinta
a little
more
I invested in
me
I invested
in taking
in my
body
more
better
So,
car,
disfutating this,
I think,
I think,
no air-condionado
of America
Top Team there
with the
world,
with the best
supporters of the
moment,
and I'm going to
16 December
I'm going to
be trying
on the
game,
my music
talking,
I have certain
that,
I'm sure
that general
will be
madadown,
all the
everyone
all know
the rhythm
that I
know
know the
I know
the
I think it's
that,
I think it's
the people
passed to me
to know me
and in the
day 16
will be
all the
whole
to be
so I'm
know
so I'm
hope
to try to
try to
a
real
a better
a better than
this
five months
since you
turned a
champion
it's
more
recognition
in the
road
more
recognition
the
fan
of
the
fan
and
and
responsibility
yeah
I
have
more
responsibilities
with
the
trainers, with my family.
But I think I
see in a line, you know,
a lot of light, you know, I'm a
guy who I'm a lot more
in what's for being, I live, very present.
And these five minutes were
marvellous for me,
of much more intense
intensity,
me feeling as a champion,
I did some of the other
other than some of the more, but I think
that my focus is equal,
is the same, if not major,
living
everything
everything
I'm living
when you
see a
raeal
you have a
reception
of a hero
like a
like a
in Florida
here
know in Florida
there's
there's a
lot of people
you have to
you go to
go to
you know
you know
you're still
now that's
a champion
now that's
a champion
there's
this
recognition
really I've
really much
more now
now that
like you
like you
like
it's a
It's a Brazil that
that's
that's
it's
but
many people
I go in
restaurant
Brazilian
generally a
we opta
for food
food
because the
food
American
not really not
not do
the country
or a
we ask you
or a
we need a
American
or a
community
a good porombollah. I'm in in in in in in a world.
to say there's
there's a lot of
and then
there's a
guy who
me found out of
home
dippo
which is
like a
a loggia
yeah
he's like
he said
he said
he said he
put put a
painting a
picture
and he
painted
me
he went over
here
here in
car
here
in a
picture
I think
I'm
I'm
I'm very
I'm very
so
but I
think I
can't
I can't
even
more
people
with my
philosophy
my son
of my
friend of
I'm a
man who are
very family
I'm going to
be present in
the creation of
my children
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
this opportunity
I'm going to
have an opportunity
now to
another one of
the other
the events
of the show
to finish
the year to
a card that
is very
mannero
so I'm
so I'm very
so much
so much grato
this is
the moment
of Alex
in FCN
there can you
have you
have you
have a
captain
have Volcanovsky
and there
Alexa
Graso
also
a campaigner
between the women.
So,
po,
the Alex
are in the
team,
yeah,
the coincidence
have been happening
for me,
you know,
if you're
if you're going to
go to wince
the Brano and I
would say,
I'd say,
the finalization
in the second
round,
because there are
many
coincidences
that's
in my
life,
really,
I don't
know what
it's,
you know,
but,
but this
Alex's there
in the
fact,
I,
I'm very
very happy
to get,
it's a story,
poor,
really ira
that he has,
the story
that he went,
for to find him
on Google
on Google
at the world,
yeah,
man,
impressiveionate,
you know,
and he,
he's a guy,
he's a
man,
he's a manor
he's a
manor,
he's referred
to the
adesan,
a guy
that he
said,
he's got
he,
he's goted
he,
and the
person,
you know,
he feels
that the
person,
he doesn't
he,
he can't
be
so great
as an
Alex,
is saying
in this moment,
he conquists
the second
centuron
of his,
and it's
a guy
that I
see that
he felt
this present
that the
life did
to him,
that he
did not,
he's dedicated,
but he
can't,
I see
in the
affection of
he
disfruited
of this,
he
knows that he
he
made for
he did for
where he
did for
he's
he's really
he's
even
talking to
have to
heavyweight
I think he,
oh,
man,
imagine,
cabess
more
a centauron, I, I
apostere on. With a certain. You can't
coincidences. What other coincidences you have
been sent in your day of year?
Caraca, there are various,
are things like that happens naturally.
The number 16 has
appeared to have been very much, for me,
ultimately, one of the parades.
There was a newestown
on the day of my lute.
The number of my
football is 16.
Then we were disempaking as things
of Natal. There had a Papa Noel. There
a papar no,
like the number that he
has been,
is the number that
we're doing,
so it's a
way, I don't
say it's gonna,
it's not
anything, it's
it's just,
it's a time,
it's,
it's,
it's,
I'm going to
go and I'm
very open,
I'm a
thing, I'm
a man,
I'm a man,
on the chow,
I'm very
very grato,
I'm very grato,
I'm very
great,
for all the
life,
for my life
I have,
by my kids,
I said,
I said,
I said,
I'm,
I said,
I'm,
the centuron
that would
me
to show
that's,
and I think
you know
a certain
it's a
kind of,
I'm in
my family
to live
now with
this fame
with this
thing of
the champion
is even a
certain
a certain
a certain
family,
how we
know,
we're taking
the
life,
the
what I
want to
to be
my
people
in this
position,
I
so I think
the
my life
really is
for them
for my
my children.
You guard
of coincidence,
you just
did five
luts in December
and won't
all this.
So,
it's a six
to be in for you.
Karak,
so,
let's come,
I'm trying,
I'm playing,
you know,
I'm playing
really,
you know,
I'm trying
about,
my trainers,
I'm very
time, I'm
living a phase
very good,
I'm going,
I'm going,
as I'm going,
I'm going,
I'm very
very happy
to be living
the part of
you can
go there,
do you can't
do what I
do my
Sending who
who I
who
was looking
always
never talking
about
being really
I think
I think
would be
I think
I'm sure
but I'm
know
and I'm
know and I'm
really
you're
a guy
because
I'm a
person who
has been
some people
have seen some
some people
that are
people who are
people who are
people
I'm gonna
an Alexandre
Pantos
in the
prime
really I
me sent
in this
moment
now
and
I'm going to
give it
very well,
I said,
you said
said he was
winning
in the second
round,
you think it's
a palion
or you think
in this,
you know,
I'm going to
see, I'm
seeing,
I'm going,
I don't know
if I'm
to train more
more,
but it's
my way,
you know,
to want to
get the
whole time
to get the
cost,
to continue
to
see that position
so
so fast,
I'm
I'm going,
I've
posted a
a little
time.
All the finalizations, I
were with an
old
and I
generally,
I do this
position with
old old
because I
know I'm
to get to
go to the
end up
I'm in a
point in
the way to
do you
so it's
natural
my, but
I also
I also
I'm trying
I've been
I've been
trained
quite, I
don't
continue to
not
not yet
because I'm
very anxious
for that
time,
have been
having been
having
been seen
the opportunity
to
the
opportunity to
I was
a macho
on my
joint,
I was offered
to look
to the
thing to work
I'm going to
the car,
I'm going to
Alex Perez,
so many things,
so,
there was a
carg of emotion
very great
in that moment
and I don't
could be
to look like
I'm going to
love to
much more
more intelligent,
more
more than
if you
need to
be to fact
with the
heart,
with the
whole,
I'm
instead of
making a
lot much
limpa
in this
day.
This is once
if you
work at
the end of the
end up in the
thing you
do you know
is an thing
that you never
never perceived
even ever
see this
video or is
a thing you
can't even
you can't
you can't
know,
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
I'm
I dojits
for much
time,
yeah
and I'm
what I'm
like I
really
I feel the
really I
feel like
to feel like
to make sure
to
I'm sure
where I
know where
really the
to see
there,
more
it's a
more than
it's a
natural,
I had this
curiosity,
I could
see in the
photos,
I'm in the
little bit of
a moment of the
eye-fechated
in this
position too.
And,
po, it's it,
man,
in the Jiu-Jits
there,
no,
I'm,
I'm a
guy who me
really really
in the
man,
I think the
show,
really much
really good,
and probably
I'm trying to
I'm sorry,
but I'm
the guy,
the guy
really
really,
the curve. He not
he proves that you have to be able to be able to be able to be able to be
a bit up, if you're going to be one more.
And it's important to have
this guy for me, you know, because I always have to
be looking to, it's better,
you know?
You know,
he, as well, Parumpa, also
when I jog the game with Parumpa,
the, the, uh, the
Adriano Mikinu, too, who is a guy who
who me pusha much, po, the
Kyojurigut, who is the Japanese,
him,
for me,
this guy,
to him in the
academy,
for me,
is primordial
to see the
my level,
because it's a
dual,
he's always
100%
a guy who
can't be
a lot,
uh,
an exerce
that I have
a lot of
carna
can't be
that's
like that
America Top Team
really,
have these
companions
of training
so man,
it's fundamental
for the
growth,
so many
you're
saying,
you're important
for you
to maybe
not,
don't,
let you
with a foot on the floor, but he'd be able to say you guys to be it's a
really good for the world. It's always there's someone who's
if you're piscar, he can't see
surprise. He may remember a little bit of the
declaration that Brenno Royval gave, that he said
that he said that
the derot of his to,
for you, to turn a chavina, that
after this lute, he perceived that he not could
be able to look out of the form that he lute, that he
citadel on a guy more complete, that he
moved the form that he looked more strategic
and all the way. You perceived, in him, this
a new
after you've
been in front
the
other than
he's the
he's a
kind of a
kind of
you know,
he's not
so you're
total, total
entrented
the Bentorin
right?
You know
me again,
was that
the Bentorin
got him
got him
that,
I,
I,
I pointed to
Bantorin
also.
Then then
then he
then he's
a muttoner
competitive
but also
that's also
that's
there,
but he
gained
the Matos
Nicol
really is a
thing we have
to be a lot of
a guy
really a guy
very hard
the way
he's a
manned a
mann't really
I'm not
he back to
leg the
weight or not
I'm sure
if this
could have
interfered
in some
yeah I'm
in Miami
he was with a
wife
he was with a
time after
he went to
he went to
and then
he's
what this
could have
been in some of
the car got
he went to
a sequence of
three victories
really
something
something
moved
on him
I learned
I learned much
with my
derotas
too,
a champion
is a
great
is a
because
when the
guy
don't say
and he
will be
going to be
going to
put him to
put him to
go back
back and
it's
it's
he comes
he's
three victories
two bonus
of the
night
and
will and
will be
and will
fight
against
I
who I'm
too
I'm
including
was in
the same
he
So,
I'm going to
be a lot
a sinister,
a guerrida,
he does this style
of the lute,
he says that
he's a
better than,
he's a
good, he's
a guy who,
he's a guy who,
he's a lot,
he came to the
ground for him,
he doesn't
problem,
too,
so I have to
be a
lotter complete,
a canhut,
the alto,
so I have
to respect to
this
lot.
He's,
he's,
but he moved,
the
style
of,
or you
think
is a
version
bettered than what he had
before? Or there
some
he'd have been
a
before he
did he
did more
he did more
he did more
so I'm
a studious
this form
you know
I'm
I see some
what he's
what he's
what he's
he's
but you know
there's not
no end up
you have a
study
I don't
do you know
I'm usually
really
who does
know that
he's
he will
make sure
he will
get a
but I'm
I'm a
this leitura really in
the moment of the
lot,
you know,
this is
me makes a
comfortable,
po,
I'm a lot
lot of carambe,
there's a
lot of marthae,
and before
to do this
many,
many of the
many lectures,
my master,
me left to
those academies,
and I
saw,
he was a
pored
with all the
world, you
see, I
see, the
guy,
to win
three victories,
I believe
much more
in this,
in this
force,
it's mental
that he's
coming,
than if he
learned
to do
,
if he's
very
in the guillotina,
I know
that he's a
lot of
a lotter
he's
there,
but I
know I
think the
moment
that the moment
when you
know,
when you
see the
energy
the guy,
what is
the power
and the
he's,
he's coming
with all
all right
and he
was in a
place
I was
when I
went to
him
so he
but I'm
I'm not
going to
defend
I'm
I'm going to
get to
get to
get to
I'm
on
Instagram
you post
recently
the video
of the
video of
about him
and called
that finalization
of the
work of
and said
he's going
to make
the story
in the
category
what you
do you
will be
the differential
that you
will
make
your
that's
all
all right
I'm
I'm
I'm
so
I'm
I'm
a
person
I'm
know
I'm
I
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
that
maybe
my
mental
not I
didn't
when I
went
with
with
when I
was
extremely
necessary in that
I was
in front of Brandon Moreno
who made
much juice
that he was the
champion
he looked
very well
there was
it was
the prime
and now
I want to use
not so
this
all that I
put to put
everything
to put up
all right
everything
I'm very
very
very exaltively
I want
I want to
a game
a game
a little
so
so it's
that I'm
not so I'm
don't want to
talk so
because he
will he
will be
this video
but
But, you know, you
can,
you can't
be able to
and me co-bred
because I'm
going to
give a,
a lot
complete.
You're saying
when you're
a guy old-school,
and one of
the signs
of this is that
the UFC
coor-o-
this year
six new
champions,
and you're
the only
that's the
year that
is marked
for the
year or
then there's
not there
don't have
even made
to do
even to
the
rhythm of
you
you want,
you want,
is that's active, you don't
see that guy
that's a titarone,
sit and pass
a year,
you've got to
you've got to
cure after the
doctor with a moreno,
but that's the rhythm
that you want to
keep,
because I,
I,
various moments,
I've looked
very little
too little,
in these
moments,
there had my
operation of
the joel,
I got in
Alex Perez,
I have to
expect the
Morano
to look to
Davidson,
and then I
have to
see,
the more
to come
to come
to come
to come,
So when
me,
I don't
pass it never
for a moment
that I don't
want to be
not a moment,
it's what I
want to do,
it's what I'm
don't want to
I'm not
I'm not
a lotterter
I'm a
people, I'm
a old school
really,
a guy who
has a
guy who has
a lot of
my moment,
I really really
me sit in
my prime
and I'm
really a
little bit
beautiful
beautiful
I'm doing
a lot
very well
made
that I'm
do you
know,
and I
hope
I'm going to
try to
maybe in April,
March,
I'm going to
I'm trying
a month of
there's a
really for
being a
champion but I
don't want to
have taken
a month,
it was horrible
for me the
world,
to me,
to get
this level that
it's the
time, it
has been
the other
three months,
you know,
because I
am a guy
that I'm
know,
and really,
man,
God,
everything,
all happening,
all happening
that he
he wants, that he
he'd
that he'd
think he's
to say
that's a
victory
this day
I'm sure
to defend
briefly
because,
as I'm
there's
time to
have to
do you know
two, three
defenses
the centuron
next,
two,
but I
think,
I think,
it's the
first time
that I'm
going to
make a paper-veil,
but the last
event of the
year,
will be able
to make
many years,
it's
on the
ground,
you know,
I have the notion
of that I will
get a grandin'
legal
even, I'm
able to be
structure very
but I'm
but just knowing
of this
the money
you know,
I'm sure
that I'm very
very excited
to get in this
level,
to pay this
quantity,
to be a lot of,
I'm really
privilegedgated,
disongued
to be disposing
on that octogro
with millions
of people
you're looking
and everyone
I'm trying
to the end of
my music
rolling,
I'm the champion, I
PISO there,
have this spectacle
mounted for you,
I'm not going to receive
with a very privilege,
you know,
Glemy, I want
to get,
and be free,
do what I like to do.
And it's what I
tell you,
the money,
is a question
secondary.
Logic,
it will be
always be in my
place,
because my family
in the first
place.
But it's
to collier these
fruits.
As you said,
who you know,
three victories
there for
man,
it's my
life,
mud the life
of people
on my
life,
it's the
really I'm
really the
I'm sure
there's a
year that's
a lot important to
the division
in the
UFC
to Mexico,
that not
be a men
event,
but even
so it
will be
five rounds
of Benando
Moryano
Morynian
and
you think
that's
that's
not that
maybe be
maybe it's
maybe
give a
kind of
give to
this battle
the
this is
you have
been to
have been
the
rebel
first
yeah
that
will
be
the
that will
be the
the centuron, I think
I don't have a
sombra of the dubbara of this,
uh, I'm a little bit
I saw now,
Mochaev, will be
to talk with Alex Perez
too, it's a
good guineate
that he could
do that he's
talking to be this
guys, you know,
you're going to
get all of them
in the prime
of them,
I'm going to
this,
this,
this,
this,
this,
I can't
be able to
be able to
try to come
and can't
come with all
all of all
opportunity,
it's a
the major level of the sport that I
can't have,
live this,
I feel my
my body for this,
for me,
it's a marvellous
my,
can be,
who can be,
I think it's a
really interesting.
But I think
a lot of the
Moraean,
but the ballbass
also,
can robar the
scene there.
Manila,
and,
and,
we're having a
second,
the day,
he was,
the time,
the time,
he's,
what you're,
the performance
of him
I want to Rob Fonte.
Man, I
saw,
I saw he,
he focused,
I know,
see he's
his shape
he was in
shape
good,
I said,
I'm gonna,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
put,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm very
happy with
the performance
that he
had,
uh,
I really,
really,
really,
not with a
little,
not with
a body,
yeah,
I think he
needs to
matter,
more,
but he,
but in a two are luts, he
has been with that
carcass,
I think,
I think he's
because this
is a time,
he will be
more pesable
in the academy,
he will
do a diet
different,
with the time
he can't
this muscular
really, but
it's a
guy that,
I think he
has a real
condition
to be a
champion of
this category,
if I
would be
to talk to
him,
with him,
if he would
be able
to be a
group of
a lot
really good,
I would
would be
really
to
would be a sinister to
to him
to go to this category
not would be
a lot of
but we saw
we know
after that's
after that
after that's
yeah
yeah I don't know
not only
so the Aldo
or Patrick
too Patrick
too
Patrick was
Patrick was
he was a champion
no
Patrice Patrick
Patrice
Patrice
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
championed
champion of 66
and I
think carac
but not
but not
you can't
but
He knows that, he jant the Sergio Pettis,
but really he brigued
with a lot of the pros.
Peri, he was a champion of the gals,
he would be,
the same way that you
make up to fight
up to,
um,
to find a starry of Mollah
who's a guy who'd
try'd very much of the
money.
No, no,
but the Amalio
just would be
because he said
merda,
said,
because I'm a
piece,
muska,
very levy,
I'm a piece of
a musk a great,
I'm a
category,
you know,
but,
I'm pretty
now of the
person,
it's a three,
five,
is what I
have been
what I'm
not the time,
but it's
all the part
but,
but it's
no matter
I think that
there's a story
I'm,
the case,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
not,
I'm,
I'm,
I'll look,
I'm,
but,
uh,
but,
um,
don't know
to be sure
of a doubt,
I'd like
try to
unification
this form,
and for the
Brazil is
so incredible.
With the
Shannumari
did a
Not a 3 for the
straight to
Davidson
in the
division
that you
do you know,
you think he
was exigent
too?
No,
car,
you know,
dot 7,
car.
Nitably,
the Figueero
is not so
he's
accustomed to
this piece,
he's
a lot of
battles,
a guy
respected,
the Robbhont
never
was nocautied
so,
so,
po,
I'd go,
to go,
and I'm
going to
go to
get to
the knockout
to Davidson,
but I
saw that
the shardog
of Fon
he never
was never
been
knockoutyed
so
it's a
guy
difficult
to be
this
view of this
view of
this
but he
got he's
really
very
you know
he's
really
really
he's
he's
really
really it's
really
maintain the
you know
you can't
get a
much more
a little
a level
a level
a level
a little
that's
what I'm
talking
the
figureheado
he's
going
he's
going to
get this
car
can't
be able
can be
back
the top of the category,
the problem
to get a Merab
of the
life,
I was going to
see the
little bit of
a lot of
a little
that's ridiculous
but I'm
doing what,
it's not
to get to
get to
get to get
a pujance
to say
to say that
that's
to figure it
maybe,
maybe,
you know,
it's a
M.A.
You think
he would
a,
a lot
good for
Shano Mari
for the
St.
The Davidson
total,
I think
total,
Devis
can be
now
even I
believe
he
could
be
to wincer, and he more adapted to
category, even more, you know.
It's what I'm talking. He will
gain in this category.
As I've seen, it's a lot of
Renato Moican, was in the
70, now he was 77, he's
very much more, more strong, of the structure
corporal of his. And this will happen
naturally with Dave, but it's it,
he's going to a line of racemines
very good, with a family, the
family, the son of his
present. I think he
is going to, seeing
my videos, he's
I'm accompanying. But I think that is this,
I know, a gente
Brazilian, I think, I think it's a
family, it's up on the ground, you know,
to work, you know,
and be able to, understand
this part of the matter. I hope that
he's going to be this victory
that makes him disumbra,
that he continues focused,
that there's going to
gollier what he's planting.
Boy, we're just seeing a moment
manor of America Top Team also
will have been,
now in January,
Achita,
disputing the centuron
the gals of the
moment is good of America
Top Team,
and better even to
Parumpa,
that's the don't
of the
world,
it's the
the doctor.
We're
talking about,
we're talking about
this in the
academy
now,
I'm
shittara,
then he's
a mufsor
that's a
six six
Kilo,
a russo,
and then he
lot of him,
he's got to
with him
his mother of
his mother
was with
the performance
of the
yeah,
he really,
he was
he was trying
who's a
man, who's
a guy
the guy's
the performance
that he's
doing the
performance that he's
So, there
a Armand,
too,
who's a guy
who's a
guy who's
going to move
the title
there's a
very happy with
this moment of
the Parrumpa,
the America
Top Team,
disputed the
PLL,
we got two
two trunks
with the PFL
also,
the problem,
the Maga.
Puck,
the academy
incredible,
we train at
a whole
moment with
champions,
you know,
the guy
who is very
very known
of the media
is there
there's like
there
not more
than more
than
more than
so this is
a thing
that makes
much
with me
particularly
I have an opportunity to trainer with
today, that for me,
the guy push
much the rhythm,
the firmiga,
push a much,
but all these guys,
you know,
then the America
Top Team is a cellar
even,
it's a Disneylandia
of MMEA.
What,
the differential
of Parampia
from the trainer?
Po,
more of 20 years
of experience,
I think this is
a point crucial,
the guy
is all the hour
in an event
of the F.C.
There event
that he does
six luts
in the UFC,
all he's
all he's
he's going to
he's
very much
that,
you know?
is a guy who
is a guy who's
living this
many years,
trying to be
better at all the moment
he doesn't
he doesn't
be able to
he's not
he's not
he's quite
many people
that's the
he's the
what I'm saying
the Brazilian
and the russes
are exceptional
in the MMA
and the
Russo are
being
in a
there's a
line of
he's a
he's trying
he's
he's trying
the guy
he's
he comes to
call he
he's like
the ball
he is
I'm
I live
not so the
prime
of Parumpa
but as from the Everton, the VV,
also, who Vee,
who is my preparator physical,
he worked 10 years
with Amanda,
you know,
not so with her,
but directly to America
the Top Team.
So I'm in the prime
of my trainers,
the mackarrow,
is another that
for me.
Not only,
the Gabriel,
also,
the Elever,
the Anson,
France,
is there,
so it's a
time,
and Catell,
the Pituca,
man,
are many of the mok,
the Mokke-Brawl,
the exerts
of the lotters,
so,
it's a,
it's a,
it's an
an ambient
a ambient
And who can't
not go in America
Top Team,
the guys ask
to stay,
not can't
pressure all day,
you know,
there's a virtual
there's a lot,
the man,
the man,
no know,
who's a man,
the guy,
is the champion
the title,
the title,
but amassed
a lot,
the guy,
is flyweight,
and it's a general.
Poh, man,
it's a privilege,
you know,
I'd be a
question about
this day of
this week of
he got over
the year
he got,
the guy
people,
people,
to find to
a chance
there's a
other top five
a top three, because he did he did
from Darius, like he did not,
he took, never, never did,
it was, it was, it was, it was.
How do you think he'd say it, car,
against a, contra an,
against a Charles,
contra a Marachev?
Ah, car, just putting it to
see, yeah, I think he really
is ready for this moment.
It's the moment
of his, man, but then
all this confusion with
the category,
yeah, the Charlie's
out, the Markashire,
he just got to look at
with Volcanoves,
that we're talking
about the event in an
Arabia
Saudi,
what is
what is
going to be
going to be
the way
he's the
man,
everyone knows
I think this
this is a
lot of
this
might be
a man
to pick a
a Duxie
but with Duxh
I think it
was going to
do you
know
the Justin Gates, right?
The Justin
Gate,
but then
also have to
see the
Connor
will be
going to be
the chander
is
all this
part of
the time
the time
the time
where we're
where we're
There's a conno, not for the same.
Not it's easy.
Just to finish it,
just to thank you.
We're going to be
in climate of Natal,
there's a lot of
people just are
listening, but
the arvozine
piscan there,
climate of the
place for the
Papine Noel this year
and,
and then,
obviously,
to defend the
centuron
on the end of
the end of the end.
I think that
it's really
to not defend,
not defend,
not,
conquest,
this,
this title of
a champion
world,
more once
for me,
for my family,
for my family,
for all the
world,
put the
Brazil really
in the top
to show
that I'm
a loter
that will
defend this
title.
And,
I'm very
happy,
I'm just
just to make
a thing
I'm doing,
I think the
I'm trying
to be more
generous
one with another
not a
question
financial or
nothing,
but general
of time,
but I
know, I
am very
in this
my moment
to be
generous,
to want
to be
generous, to
try to
with the words that
be able to
I'm saying
I'm very happy
to talk about
to talk about
to talk about
to talk about
you're going to
have been
everything I've done
everything I've
knew that I'm
came here for
accident and it's
it's just
a felicity
we're going to
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Do other
side of the line
we have we have
in Lwana
Santos
that's the
last time
the next year
last year
the second
victory.
Luana,
welcome to
the podcast
that's
my expectation
for a
few days
before the
next to
see the
last one of
a vice.
Thank you
for the opportunity
I'm very
so I'm very
soozyos
I'm
the last time
I'm
put a lot
after after
I'm going to
get to
category of
Cima,
let's see.
I wanted.
I wanted to
start a
year with
more one of
a lot,
it's not
very happy,
I'm very
very excited,
so I'm
ready to get
more than I'm
going to
get more
a camp
will be,
the cut of
the course
will be more
so you
can't be
something to
this one of
what?
What is
what was
different
just to
have three
three
months
to prepare?
Ah,
it's a
other
Luta,
for me
a other
Lut,
of prepare
of camp
10
semanas
10 semanas long
focused on this
this last time
I was training
and then
the other people
my employer
me called
I was able to
have made
she called
me offence
I'll
I'll,
I'll be
I'm going to
I'm not
not with
with a
prevising
to look for
now
so maybe
was able to
relaxed
on the
I'm
have to
have to
I'd be a lot of
Pairs,
even in the
category of
the same
I've got to
get to
get a
but I'm
going to be
three months
after the first
I'm going to
do it.
I'm going to
F.C.
now,
many more
times this will
happen.
Because it
had happened
before,
when I
did I
do that I
had been
after I've
had been
a lot of
a lot to
do you're
in three
seven years
but I
was much
and I'm
not going to
so much
I'm
so this
apparently
I think
I believe
that
will
I've happened more
of the
I think it's
being done to
be done
so you're
about how much
when the
Lucas
she called
did you know
with the
with 70
oh,
a lot of
things
you're
often, you
usually
normally
and you
and dece
for the
food
I'm a
I'm a
I'm
I'm a
lot of 5,7
right
for it's
I generally
I have
I have
many
time
so just
because I
pass a
long
the long
process
so
I do a diet
certain,
I pass on the diet's righty
and generally
yes, but I'm
trying to maintain
my peso
my face,
to be like to
get to be 10 kilos
to see my
category only, but
it's just more
from the Brazil,
and this month
of October,
I went to
the month of
without, I was
not, I was in
training,
because I was
with a
little bit
and I went to
the Brazil
and I'm
not relaxes
the food
and it
doesn't
no,
no,
the piece
soft
And now, two
times with the FCC
I'm going to
to try this as
as a pattern this
as a pattern.
So,
try to maintain
the pace
in a distance
that you can't
get the 5-7
with three
seven years.
Exactly.
Exactly
that's what
you think
this was the
this
fight against
Stephanie Yeger?
It's a
other that
was never
just waiting
just waiting
just waiting
and even
even the
time,
not you
not the
person,
but you
had seen the
she had
had the last,
you had the
will be
not
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm a
a good
lot, I
think it's
a good
for me
I think it
will be
to make sure
a lot
it's a
a woman
more more
more experienced
it's a
a woman
a woman
dure
but I
I'm training
well
I'm training
firm
and I
think it
will be
a
good
for me
she
she's
she
she
did not
in other
in other
times
in other
you
know
she actually that
she
is
accustomed to
confronts
more
more than I
think that
I've got
I've got to
I'm in
all the
all the last
those last
amateurs
were to
bea one
and the
two
professionals
also
I've been
with men
more
more pesas
so I
don't think
that this
will be
a problem
I just
I'm
I'm
consider the
great,
everyone
me considerate
great,
I think
I'm
think I'm
strong
for the
category
so I
don't know
that will
be a
problem
I think
she's a
really
really
physically
looking,
you can't
be that she has
been a lot of
muscle, there's
a lot of
physical,
it's a
year to be
to make a
so it's
all this
interfere,
but I don't
think I
have a problem
with it
no.
The data's
there's
the topod
you have
the same
height,
I think
invergature
there's
like three
centimeters
a more
but that
the
height of
the
question
of the
muscular
for it
should
a category
officially
a category
at
maybe
I don't
I don't
I don't
see
that
not
because she
more
than it's more
than it,
because I'm
looking her
in octagon
like it's
about the size
the same
about the same
the same a eight
yeah
yeah I think
she's a
yeah
so I think she
it's been
more than it's
very much
I think
apparently I think
she had
one seven
one seven two
but
if you're
talking
and I think
a juliana
the last
last I did
I was
I didn't
have problem
it's
to train
to
right,
right?
It's the type of
thing we just
will be discovered
there's a
kind of a
kind of a
exactly,
the force
of her,
everything, all right,
all the force of
the type of
that's the type of
that's the
people, there's
people, there's
people who like
in intimidate,
there's a
more than you
get more
to see,
some pripment
to get a
hand in the
arm in the
but, you
do it, but
you see,
the body,
the body,
how you
feel like
with this
moment of
this moment of
the
encounter,
I think
also,
I think the
look in the
eye, I look
in the
eye,
I'm in the
whole of the
whole of the
person,
so I can
see too,
I can't
see, I can't
see, like the
person's,
if the person
is a person
not, if the
look, if you
are with a
look at
a look
to do you,
like a
little bit,
I think it
visibly in her
that she
was, you
had been
to make
the person
that she
was a
little insecure,
but I
don't use
to medront
anybody,
I do
make a
carada
there,
I also always complimented.
I don't
the style of
the person
that I'm
making provoking,
I'm making
making a
thing is there's
the thing.
The thing is
we're going
there's a
way in the
same.
How is you
think you
will be
this
lot?
You think it's
going to be
more
a new
social?
You think for you're
there's a
finalization?
You know,
it tends to
be a lot
more
of the
game of solo?
I think that
I'm going to
a lot of
Jiu-Git
that's a
chou, it's,
it's a
characterific of her
she's a
she's not a
man that
she's not
my character
I'm not doing my
characterita, I don't
be a
Luana that
was an
old, I was
actually,
I'd be
back to
I'm trying
my character
if depended
to me
not be a
lot of
not be
a lot of
the initial
I'm
I'm done
I'm trying
to try a
porada
with her
there has
many
failures
in
trocaation, so I will abuse
to this. I believe that
she, no, I believe
that she, by the
style of her, and I think
all the loot of her, and all the
of the women, it does the same thing, so I
believe that she will want to do
that she'll do, she'll do, she'll
and all right, so,
so it will depend on how
it will be the last, how she'll
see she will be able to be grudar,
at times I also,
I'm also in the troika
I can't get to-doca,
so probably
golfs of judo terer
in the luster.
With certainty,
but I'm ready
for all-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-chon.
I'm trying to go to the
and to-chown,
and we're going to-
some of those
oldos and there's a
finalization that you did
in the SFT
that you actually
even in a
lute earlier,
which is a
kind of
that was very
quite the
that Ronda da
yeah.
I remember
when it was
that she was that
I did she's
I did it
I did it
two days
yeah
I finished
with her
two days
it's a
characteristic
my
everyone when
I'm
when I'm
when I'm
know
I'm
because I
know
in the Kizha
Tami
that is a
position
of Judo
and when I
do the
goal there
that I see
the brao
the person
there
I
I've
I learned
this technique
two days
two three
days
before the
first time
I did
a lot of
a
question
in the final-lotta.
I learned
the Dr. Ellis
of 0.11
that
he showed
and I
got to be
the car of this
finalization
and not
did another.
At my
start,
in the first
road I
did the
and I
my
fourth
lute,
in my
third-luta
of the
MMA
I also
I'm also
this is the
type of
finalization
that if you
do you
will explode
you will
get the
premium
of finalization
in
year because she's spectacular.
But just not
was elected because
nobody saw it,
because it was in
a event
regional from Brazil
and Brazil.
Exactly.
I was
conversed with
people of
the academy.
I said,
if you
did the NFC
this finalization,
it's a
certain that you
will get
a bonus and
what I
said, I
said in my
first,
in my
first time,
I don't
have a
opportunity
to do
with a
certain
this finalization
will be
in the
F.
depending
of me,
I'm
with
it's
automatic
my
just
do it
do you do. And it's
a really, it's a finalization that you don't
see nobody doing, nobody does,
for the cost of the judo, right? It's very difficult
if we see people doing
a Kedda of Judo, because
not a thing normal.
But if you dependers of me, with a
certainty, it will be.
She also, she's a specialist
in the judo and all. She has
experienced, she'll
in a DCC, in front of Gabi Garcia,
in 2019, that was when Agabiss
she was turned a moral champion, and she
she was, he was, he did a
We have a chance of travel to Gabi.
What she does,
for the MMA,
these competitions
that she does
do you know,
these competitions,
like,
this comes attention,
you open the eyes,
or you think,
not it's sports
different,
not does difference.
What we're in
the MMA is another
thing.
Yeah,
for me,
are things
totally different.
It's,
even if you're
not really,
it's not really
poorada in the
car,
and porrada
in the car
and the
total the arsenal
of the
car,
if she's just to
just to do
a key to do
and I can
batte in her
and she's
not just jiu-jit-s
you're just to
get rolling with a
person,
have been porrada
so m-m-a
jiu-jit's jih-m-a
jih-m-a-jid-sjit's
just jih-git's
no,
no, don't have
come to
compare,
because at
the moment
that can't
the
the scenario
it's totally
so who
so can't
you get a
leg-on-sor
with a combination
she stust
you put a
to the back of the guata past.
Exactly.
And the American and $50,000 in the box.
Ah, so,
I'm trying for this.
Oh, so much.
Oh, manor, Lana.
Oh, boy, thank you,
for your time.
I'm going to get back in the last year.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
For the opportunity of the interview.
Galera, thank you.
I'll assist.
Sabadown.
I'm going to make
more on show.
I'm training very
very d'Uro.
And, who can't
come on a knockout
to know,
in the first radio,
let's see.
A we can't
be with the session
of this week
of the podcast,
I'd like
on Alexander Pantoja,
Luana Santos,
and a friend
and a friend of
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