MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Alexandre Pantoja explica finalização de olhos fechados no UFC

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

No auge da sua carreira e sem se deixar levar pela modinha de trash talk do MMA atual, Alexandre Pantoja quer fazer história no UFC. Campeão dos moscas, Pantoja falou ao Trocação Franca sobre a ...defesa de título contra Brandon Royval, na próxima semana, explicou por que finaliza de olhos fechados no MMA, se cogita subir ao peso galo para enfrentar Sean O’Malley e Deiveson Figueiredo, e muito mais. O podcast traz ainda uma entrevista com Luana Santos, que volta ao octógono sábado em Las Vegas. In his prime and uninterested in joining MMA’s trash-talk trend, Alexandre Pantoja vows to make history in the UFC. The flyweight champion returns to Trocação Franca to discuss his upcoming rematch with Brandon Royval at next week’s UFC 296, why he closes his eyes to work on submissions, if he’s into the idea of moving up to bantamweight to fight Sean O’Malley or Deiveson Figueiredo, and more. The podcast also features an interview with Luana Santos ahead of Saturday’s UFC Vegas event. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:27 The Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocazone Franca, and representing the MNN. and a fighting in Brazil, Guillermo Cruz.
Starting point is 00:01:49 On a week, on the 10th-108 episode of the podcast, Troca's Frank, at your house, about the spina this immense ball of the spheria. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:02:10 Mr.Cruis, correspondent of the site American on M.M.I. FIREO in the Brazil, and we're in the company of the champion Pesomosk
Starting point is 00:02:15 of the official Alexander and Pantoja that I'll put the centurion in the game in the next year in Las Vegas. Bevind
Starting point is 00:02:21 welcome to my podcast, Miu, how is the anxiety to enter in the jaula about the first
Starting point is 00:02:24 first time now as a champion to defend the title to bring the contra Voiselle.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Fala Guy, be able to talk about talking with you guys to get to get to get
Starting point is 00:02:34 to get to the centuron and, boy, I'm armadown I think I think not could
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Starting point is 00:02:44 grant that pinta a little more I invested in me I invested in taking
Starting point is 00:02:48 in my body more better So, car, disfutating this, I think,
Starting point is 00:02:57 I think, no air-condionado of America Top Team there with the world, with the best supporters of the
Starting point is 00:03:04 moment, and I'm going to 16 December I'm going to be trying on the game, my music
Starting point is 00:03:12 talking, I have certain that, I'm sure that general will be madadown, all the
Starting point is 00:03:15 everyone all know the rhythm that I know know the I know the
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Starting point is 00:03:27 will be all the whole to be so I'm know so I'm hope
Starting point is 00:03:31 to try to try to a real a better a better than this five months
Starting point is 00:03:37 since you turned a champion it's more recognition in the road
Starting point is 00:03:42 more recognition the fan of the fan and
Starting point is 00:03:47 and responsibility yeah I have more responsibilities with
Starting point is 00:03:51 the trainers, with my family. But I think I see in a line, you know, a lot of light, you know, I'm a guy who I'm a lot more in what's for being, I live, very present. And these five minutes were
Starting point is 00:04:07 marvellous for me, of much more intense intensity, me feeling as a champion, I did some of the other other than some of the more, but I think that my focus is equal, is the same, if not major,
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Starting point is 00:04:29 there's a lot of people you have to you go to go to you know you know you're still
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Starting point is 00:06:03 the other the events of the show to finish the year to a card that is very mannero
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Starting point is 00:07:42 oh, man, imagine, cabess more a centauron, I, I apostere on. With a certain. You can't coincidences. What other coincidences you have
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Starting point is 00:10:27 you know, to want to get the whole time to get the cost, to continue to
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Starting point is 00:12:55 the, the, uh, the Adriano Mikinu, too, who is a guy who who me pusha much, po, the Kyojurigut, who is the Japanese, him, for me, this guy, to him in the
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Starting point is 00:13:16 carna can't be that's like that America Top Team really, have these companions
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Starting point is 00:13:38 if you're piscar, he can't see surprise. He may remember a little bit of the declaration that Brenno Royval gave, that he said that he said that the derot of his to, for you, to turn a chavina, that after this lute, he perceived that he not could be able to look out of the form that he lute, that he
Starting point is 00:13:54 citadel on a guy more complete, that he moved the form that he looked more strategic and all the way. You perceived, in him, this a new after you've been in front the other than
Starting point is 00:14:03 he's the he's a kind of a kind of you know, he's not so you're total, total
Starting point is 00:14:08 entrented the Bentorin right? You know me again, was that the Bentorin got him
Starting point is 00:14:15 got him that, I, I, I pointed to Bantorin also. Then then
Starting point is 00:14:21 then he then he's a muttoner competitive but also that's also that's there,
Starting point is 00:14:28 but he gained the Matos Nicol really is a thing we have to be a lot of a guy
Starting point is 00:14:32 really a guy very hard the way he's a manned a mann't really I'm not he back to
Starting point is 00:14:38 leg the weight or not I'm sure if this could have interfered in some yeah I'm
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Starting point is 00:14:56 really something something moved on him I learned I learned much with my
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Starting point is 00:15:13 go back back and it's it's he comes he's three victories two bonus
Starting point is 00:15:18 of the night and will and will be and will fight against
Starting point is 00:15:22 I who I'm too I'm including was in the same he
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Starting point is 00:15:42 ground for him, he doesn't problem, too, so I have to be a lotter complete, a canhut,
Starting point is 00:15:50 the alto, so I have to respect to this lot. He's, he's, but he moved,
Starting point is 00:15:55 the style of, or you think is a version bettered than what he had
Starting point is 00:15:58 before? Or there some he'd have been a before he did he did more he did more
Starting point is 00:16:04 he did more so I'm a studious this form you know I'm I see some what he's
Starting point is 00:16:12 what he's what he's he's but you know there's not no end up you have a study
Starting point is 00:16:18 I don't do you know I'm usually really who does know that he's he will
Starting point is 00:16:22 make sure he will get a but I'm I'm a this leitura really in the moment of the lot,
Starting point is 00:16:28 you know, this is me makes a comfortable, po, I'm a lot lot of carambe, there's a
Starting point is 00:16:34 lot of marthae, and before to do this many, many of the many lectures, my master, me left to
Starting point is 00:16:41 those academies, and I saw, he was a pored with all the world, you see, I
Starting point is 00:16:46 see, the guy, to win three victories, I believe much more in this, in this
Starting point is 00:16:50 force, it's mental that he's coming, than if he learned to do ,
Starting point is 00:16:55 if he's very in the guillotina, I know that he's a lot of a lotter he's
Starting point is 00:16:58 there, but I know I think the moment that the moment when you know,
Starting point is 00:17:02 when you see the energy the guy, what is the power and the he's,
Starting point is 00:17:08 he's coming with all all right and he was in a place I was when I
Starting point is 00:17:14 went to him so he but I'm I'm not going to defend I'm
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'm going to get to get to get to I'm on Instagram you post
Starting point is 00:17:24 recently the video of the video of about him and called that finalization of the
Starting point is 00:17:28 work of and said he's going to make the story in the category what you
Starting point is 00:17:32 do you will be the differential that you will make your that's
Starting point is 00:17:36 all all right I'm I'm I'm so I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:17:41 a person I'm know I'm I I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:17:45 I'm I'm that maybe my mental not I didn't
Starting point is 00:17:50 when I went with with when I was extremely necessary in that
Starting point is 00:17:56 I was in front of Brandon Moreno who made much juice that he was the champion he looked very well
Starting point is 00:18:02 there was it was the prime and now I want to use not so this all that I
Starting point is 00:18:07 put to put everything to put up all right everything I'm very very very exaltively
Starting point is 00:18:13 I want I want to a game a game a little so so it's that I'm
Starting point is 00:18:20 not so I'm don't want to talk so because he will he will be this video but
Starting point is 00:18:24 But, you know, you can, you can't be able to and me co-bred because I'm going to give a,
Starting point is 00:18:31 a lot complete. You're saying when you're a guy old-school, and one of the signs of this is that
Starting point is 00:18:40 the UFC coor-o- this year six new champions, and you're the only that's the
Starting point is 00:18:45 year that is marked for the year or then there's not there don't have even made
Starting point is 00:18:49 to do even to the rhythm of you you want, you want, is that's active, you don't
Starting point is 00:18:54 see that guy that's a titarone, sit and pass a year, you've got to you've got to cure after the doctor with a moreno,
Starting point is 00:19:04 but that's the rhythm that you want to keep, because I, I, various moments, I've looked very little
Starting point is 00:19:10 too little, in these moments, there had my operation of the joel, I got in Alex Perez,
Starting point is 00:19:14 I have to expect the Morano to look to Davidson, and then I have to see,
Starting point is 00:19:17 the more to come to come to come to come, So when me, I don't
Starting point is 00:19:22 pass it never for a moment that I don't want to be not a moment, it's what I want to do, it's what I'm
Starting point is 00:19:30 don't want to I'm not I'm not a lotterter I'm a people, I'm a old school really,
Starting point is 00:19:36 a guy who has a guy who has a lot of my moment, I really really me sit in my prime
Starting point is 00:19:41 and I'm really a little bit beautiful beautiful I'm doing a lot very well
Starting point is 00:19:46 made that I'm do you know, and I hope I'm going to try to
Starting point is 00:19:53 maybe in April, March, I'm going to I'm trying a month of there's a really for being a
Starting point is 00:19:58 champion but I don't want to have taken a month, it was horrible for me the world, to me,
Starting point is 00:20:02 to get this level that it's the time, it has been the other three months, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:07 because I am a guy that I'm know, and really, man, God, everything,
Starting point is 00:20:15 all happening, all happening that he he wants, that he he'd that he'd think he's to say
Starting point is 00:20:19 that's a victory this day I'm sure to defend briefly because, as I'm
Starting point is 00:20:26 there's time to have to do you know two, three defenses the centuron next,
Starting point is 00:20:31 two, but I think, I think, it's the first time that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:39 make a paper-veil, but the last event of the year, will be able to make many years, it's
Starting point is 00:20:45 on the ground, you know, I have the notion of that I will get a grandin' legal even, I'm
Starting point is 00:20:51 able to be structure very but I'm but just knowing of this the money you know, I'm sure
Starting point is 00:20:59 that I'm very very excited to get in this level, to pay this quantity, to be a lot of, I'm really
Starting point is 00:21:06 privilegedgated, disongued to be disposing on that octogro with millions of people you're looking and everyone
Starting point is 00:21:11 I'm trying to the end of my music rolling, I'm the champion, I PISO there, have this spectacle mounted for you,
Starting point is 00:21:21 I'm not going to receive with a very privilege, you know, Glemy, I want to get, and be free, do what I like to do. And it's what I
Starting point is 00:21:31 tell you, the money, is a question secondary. Logic, it will be always be in my place,
Starting point is 00:21:35 because my family in the first place. But it's to collier these fruits. As you said, who you know,
Starting point is 00:21:42 three victories there for man, it's my life, mud the life of people on my
Starting point is 00:21:47 life, it's the really I'm really the I'm sure there's a year that's a lot important to
Starting point is 00:21:53 the division in the UFC to Mexico, that not be a men event, but even
Starting point is 00:21:57 so it will be five rounds of Benando Moryano Morynian and you think
Starting point is 00:22:01 that's that's not that maybe be maybe it's maybe give a kind of
Starting point is 00:22:06 give to this battle the this is you have been to have been the
Starting point is 00:22:10 rebel first yeah that will be the that will
Starting point is 00:22:13 be the the centuron, I think I don't have a sombra of the dubbara of this, uh, I'm a little bit I saw now, Mochaev, will be to talk with Alex Perez
Starting point is 00:22:22 too, it's a good guineate that he could do that he's talking to be this guys, you know, you're going to get all of them
Starting point is 00:22:29 in the prime of them, I'm going to this, this, this, this, this,
Starting point is 00:22:35 I can't be able to be able to try to come and can't come with all all of all opportunity,
Starting point is 00:22:42 it's a the major level of the sport that I can't have, live this, I feel my my body for this, for me, it's a marvellous
Starting point is 00:22:49 my, can be, who can be, I think it's a really interesting. But I think a lot of the Moraean,
Starting point is 00:22:57 but the ballbass also, can robar the scene there. Manila, and, and, we're having a
Starting point is 00:23:06 second, the day, he was, the time, the time, he's, what you're, the performance
Starting point is 00:23:10 of him I want to Rob Fonte. Man, I saw, I saw he, he focused, I know, see he's
Starting point is 00:23:17 his shape he was in shape good, I said, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:23:21 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, put, he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 00:23:25 he's, I'm, I'm, I'm very happy with the performance that he had,
Starting point is 00:23:30 uh, I really, really, really, not with a little, not with a body,
Starting point is 00:23:34 yeah, I think he needs to matter, more, but he, but in a two are luts, he has been with that
Starting point is 00:23:41 carcass, I think, I think he's because this is a time, he will be more pesable in the academy,
Starting point is 00:23:48 he will do a diet different, with the time he can't this muscular really, but it's a
Starting point is 00:23:55 guy that, I think he has a real condition to be a champion of this category, if I
Starting point is 00:24:01 would be to talk to him, with him, if he would be able to be a group of
Starting point is 00:24:05 a lot really good, I would would be really to would be a sinister to to him
Starting point is 00:24:12 to go to this category not would be a lot of but we saw we know after that's after that after that's
Starting point is 00:24:21 yeah yeah I don't know not only so the Aldo or Patrick too Patrick too Patrick was
Starting point is 00:24:28 Patrick was he was a champion no Patrice Patrick Patrice Patrice yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:24:32 yeah yeah championed champion of 66 and I think carac but not but not
Starting point is 00:24:38 you can't but He knows that, he jant the Sergio Pettis, but really he brigued with a lot of the pros. Peri, he was a champion of the gals, he would be, the same way that you
Starting point is 00:24:49 make up to fight up to, um, to find a starry of Mollah who's a guy who'd try'd very much of the money. No, no,
Starting point is 00:24:56 but the Amalio just would be because he said merda, said, because I'm a piece, muska,
Starting point is 00:25:02 very levy, I'm a piece of a musk a great, I'm a category, you know, but, I'm pretty
Starting point is 00:25:08 now of the person, it's a three, five, is what I have been what I'm not the time,
Starting point is 00:25:14 but it's all the part but, but it's no matter I think that there's a story I'm,
Starting point is 00:25:21 the case, I'm, I'm, I'm, not, I'm, I'm, I'll look,
Starting point is 00:25:27 I'm, but, uh, but, um, don't know to be sure of a doubt,
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'd like try to unification this form, and for the Brazil is so incredible. With the
Starting point is 00:25:36 Shannumari did a Not a 3 for the straight to Davidson in the division that you
Starting point is 00:25:40 do you know, you think he was exigent too? No, car, you know, dot 7,
Starting point is 00:25:45 car. Nitably, the Figueero is not so he's accustomed to this piece, he's
Starting point is 00:25:50 a lot of battles, a guy respected, the Robbhont never was nocautied so,
Starting point is 00:25:56 so, po, I'd go, to go, and I'm going to go to get to
Starting point is 00:26:01 the knockout to Davidson, but I saw that the shardog of Fon he never was never
Starting point is 00:26:05 been knockoutyed so it's a guy difficult to be this
Starting point is 00:26:08 view of this view of this but he got he's really very you know
Starting point is 00:26:12 he's really really he's he's really really it's really
Starting point is 00:26:17 maintain the you know you can't get a much more a little a level a level
Starting point is 00:26:24 a level a little that's what I'm talking the figureheado he's
Starting point is 00:26:28 going he's going to get this car can't be able can be
Starting point is 00:26:34 back the top of the category, the problem to get a Merab of the life, I was going to see the
Starting point is 00:26:39 little bit of a lot of a little that's ridiculous but I'm doing what, it's not to get to
Starting point is 00:26:43 get to get to get a pujance to say to say that that's to figure it maybe,
Starting point is 00:26:50 maybe, you know, it's a M.A. You think he would a, a lot
Starting point is 00:26:55 good for Shano Mari for the St. The Davidson total, I think total,
Starting point is 00:27:00 Devis can be now even I believe he could be
Starting point is 00:27:02 to wincer, and he more adapted to category, even more, you know. It's what I'm talking. He will gain in this category. As I've seen, it's a lot of Renato Moican, was in the 70, now he was 77, he's very much more, more strong, of the structure
Starting point is 00:27:18 corporal of his. And this will happen naturally with Dave, but it's it, he's going to a line of racemines very good, with a family, the family, the son of his present. I think he is going to, seeing my videos, he's
Starting point is 00:27:31 I'm accompanying. But I think that is this, I know, a gente Brazilian, I think, I think it's a family, it's up on the ground, you know, to work, you know, and be able to, understand this part of the matter. I hope that he's going to be this victory
Starting point is 00:27:43 that makes him disumbra, that he continues focused, that there's going to gollier what he's planting. Boy, we're just seeing a moment manor of America Top Team also will have been, now in January,
Starting point is 00:27:55 Achita, disputing the centuron the gals of the moment is good of America Top Team, and better even to Parumpa, that's the don't
Starting point is 00:28:02 of the world, it's the the doctor. We're talking about, we're talking about this in the
Starting point is 00:28:06 academy now, I'm shittara, then he's a mufsor that's a six six
Starting point is 00:28:11 Kilo, a russo, and then he lot of him, he's got to with him his mother of his mother
Starting point is 00:28:17 was with the performance of the yeah, he really, he was he was trying who's a
Starting point is 00:28:23 man, who's a guy the guy's the performance that he's doing the performance that he's So, there
Starting point is 00:28:30 a Armand, too, who's a guy who's a guy who's going to move the title there's a
Starting point is 00:28:36 very happy with this moment of the Parrumpa, the America Top Team, disputed the PLL, we got two
Starting point is 00:28:41 two trunks with the PFL also, the problem, the Maga. Puck, the academy incredible,
Starting point is 00:28:46 we train at a whole moment with champions, you know, the guy who is very very known
Starting point is 00:28:51 of the media is there there's like there not more than more than more than
Starting point is 00:28:55 so this is a thing that makes much with me particularly I have an opportunity to trainer with today, that for me,
Starting point is 00:29:01 the guy push much the rhythm, the firmiga, push a much, but all these guys, you know, then the America Top Team is a cellar
Starting point is 00:29:09 even, it's a Disneylandia of MMEA. What, the differential of Parampia from the trainer? Po,
Starting point is 00:29:16 more of 20 years of experience, I think this is a point crucial, the guy is all the hour in an event of the F.C.
Starting point is 00:29:22 There event that he does six luts in the UFC, all he's all he's he's going to he's
Starting point is 00:29:26 very much that, you know? is a guy who is a guy who's living this many years, trying to be
Starting point is 00:29:32 better at all the moment he doesn't he doesn't be able to he's not he's not he's quite many people
Starting point is 00:29:38 that's the he's the what I'm saying the Brazilian and the russes are exceptional in the MMA and the
Starting point is 00:29:43 Russo are being in a there's a line of he's a he's trying he's
Starting point is 00:29:48 he's trying the guy he's he comes to call he he's like the ball he is
Starting point is 00:29:54 I'm I live not so the prime of Parumpa but as from the Everton, the VV, also, who Vee, who is my preparator physical,
Starting point is 00:30:00 he worked 10 years with Amanda, you know, not so with her, but directly to America the Top Team. So I'm in the prime of my trainers,
Starting point is 00:30:07 the mackarrow, is another that for me. Not only, the Gabriel, also, the Elever, the Anson,
Starting point is 00:30:11 France, is there, so it's a time, and Catell, the Pituca, man, are many of the mok,
Starting point is 00:30:19 the Mokke-Brawl, the exerts of the lotters, so, it's a, it's a, it's an an ambient
Starting point is 00:30:25 a ambient And who can't not go in America Top Team, the guys ask to stay, not can't pressure all day,
Starting point is 00:30:32 you know, there's a virtual there's a lot, the man, the man, no know, who's a man, the guy,
Starting point is 00:30:37 is the champion the title, the title, but amassed a lot, the guy, is flyweight, and it's a general.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Poh, man, it's a privilege, you know, I'd be a question about this day of this week of he got over
Starting point is 00:30:49 the year he got, the guy people, people, to find to a chance there's a
Starting point is 00:30:55 other top five a top three, because he did he did from Darius, like he did not, he took, never, never did, it was, it was, it was, it was. How do you think he'd say it, car, against a, contra an, against a Charles,
Starting point is 00:31:07 contra a Marachev? Ah, car, just putting it to see, yeah, I think he really is ready for this moment. It's the moment of his, man, but then all this confusion with the category,
Starting point is 00:31:19 yeah, the Charlie's out, the Markashire, he just got to look at with Volcanoves, that we're talking about the event in an Arabia Saudi,
Starting point is 00:31:27 what is what is going to be going to be the way he's the man, everyone knows
Starting point is 00:31:32 I think this this is a lot of this might be a man to pick a a Duxie
Starting point is 00:31:39 but with Duxh I think it was going to do you know the Justin Gates, right? The Justin Gate,
Starting point is 00:31:44 but then also have to see the Connor will be going to be the chander is
Starting point is 00:31:49 all this part of the time the time the time where we're where we're There's a conno, not for the same.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Not it's easy. Just to finish it, just to thank you. We're going to be in climate of Natal, there's a lot of people just are listening, but
Starting point is 00:32:04 the arvozine piscan there, climate of the place for the Papine Noel this year and, and then, obviously,
Starting point is 00:32:10 to defend the centuron on the end of the end of the end. I think that it's really to not defend, not defend,
Starting point is 00:32:17 not, conquest, this, this title of a champion world, more once for me,
Starting point is 00:32:22 for my family, for my family, for all the world, put the Brazil really in the top to show
Starting point is 00:32:26 that I'm a loter that will defend this title. And, I'm very happy,
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm just just to make a thing I'm doing, I think the I'm trying to be more generous
Starting point is 00:32:40 one with another not a question financial or nothing, but general of time, but I
Starting point is 00:32:46 know, I am very in this my moment to be generous, to want to be
Starting point is 00:32:50 generous, to try to with the words that be able to I'm saying I'm very happy to talk about to talk about
Starting point is 00:32:59 to talk about to talk about you're going to have been everything I've done everything I've knew that I'm came here for
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Starting point is 00:35:36 that's the last time the next year last year the second victory. Luana, welcome to
Starting point is 00:35:40 the podcast that's my expectation for a few days before the next to see the
Starting point is 00:35:45 last one of a vice. Thank you for the opportunity I'm very so I'm very soozyos I'm
Starting point is 00:35:51 the last time I'm put a lot after after I'm going to get to category of Cima,
Starting point is 00:35:59 let's see. I wanted. I wanted to start a year with more one of a lot, it's not
Starting point is 00:36:04 very happy, I'm very very excited, so I'm ready to get more than I'm going to get more
Starting point is 00:36:10 a camp will be, the cut of the course will be more so you can't be something to
Starting point is 00:36:16 this one of what? What is what was different just to have three three
Starting point is 00:36:20 months to prepare? Ah, it's a other Luta, for me a other
Starting point is 00:36:26 Lut, of prepare of camp 10 semanas 10 semanas long focused on this this last time
Starting point is 00:36:35 I was training and then the other people my employer me called I was able to have made she called
Starting point is 00:36:42 me offence I'll I'll, I'll be I'm going to I'm not not with with a
Starting point is 00:36:51 prevising to look for now so maybe was able to relaxed on the I'm
Starting point is 00:36:55 have to have to I'd be a lot of Pairs, even in the category of the same I've got to
Starting point is 00:36:59 get to get a but I'm going to be three months after the first I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I'm going to F.C. now, many more times this will happen. Because it had happened
Starting point is 00:37:12 before, when I did I do that I had been after I've had been a lot of
Starting point is 00:37:18 a lot to do you're in three seven years but I was much and I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:37:21 so much I'm so this apparently I think I believe that will
Starting point is 00:37:25 I've happened more of the I think it's being done to be done so you're about how much when the
Starting point is 00:37:32 Lucas she called did you know with the with 70 oh, a lot of things
Starting point is 00:37:37 you're often, you usually normally and you and dece for the food
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm a I'm a I'm I'm a lot of 5,7 right for it's I generally
Starting point is 00:37:47 I have I have many time so just because I pass a long
Starting point is 00:37:52 the long process so I do a diet certain, I pass on the diet's righty and generally yes, but I'm
Starting point is 00:38:00 trying to maintain my peso my face, to be like to get to be 10 kilos to see my category only, but it's just more
Starting point is 00:38:08 from the Brazil, and this month of October, I went to the month of without, I was not, I was in training,
Starting point is 00:38:14 because I was with a little bit and I went to the Brazil and I'm not relaxes the food
Starting point is 00:38:19 and it doesn't no, no, the piece soft And now, two times with the FCC
Starting point is 00:38:25 I'm going to to try this as as a pattern this as a pattern. So, try to maintain the pace in a distance
Starting point is 00:38:32 that you can't get the 5-7 with three seven years. Exactly. Exactly that's what you think
Starting point is 00:38:39 this was the this fight against Stephanie Yeger? It's a other that was never just waiting
Starting point is 00:38:44 just waiting just waiting and even even the time, not you not the person,
Starting point is 00:38:48 but you had seen the she had had the last, you had the will be not I'm going to
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm going to I'm a a good lot, I think it's a good for me I think it
Starting point is 00:39:31 will be to make sure a lot it's a a woman more more more experienced it's a
Starting point is 00:39:36 a woman a woman dure but I I'm training well I'm training firm
Starting point is 00:39:40 and I think it will be a good for me she she's
Starting point is 00:39:43 she she did not in other in other times in other you
Starting point is 00:39:48 know she actually that she is accustomed to confronts more more than I
Starting point is 00:39:53 think that I've got I've got to I'm in all the all the last those last amateurs
Starting point is 00:39:58 were to bea one and the two professionals also I've been with men
Starting point is 00:40:03 more more pesas so I don't think that this will be a problem I just
Starting point is 00:40:07 I'm I'm consider the great, everyone me considerate great, I think
Starting point is 00:40:13 I'm think I'm strong for the category so I don't know that will
Starting point is 00:40:17 be a problem I think she's a really really physically looking,
Starting point is 00:40:21 you can't be that she has been a lot of muscle, there's a lot of physical, it's a year to be
Starting point is 00:40:26 to make a so it's all this interfere, but I don't think I have a problem with it
Starting point is 00:40:32 no. The data's there's the topod you have the same height, I think
Starting point is 00:40:37 invergature there's like three centimeters a more but that the height of
Starting point is 00:40:41 the question of the muscular for it should a category officially
Starting point is 00:40:47 a category at maybe I don't I don't I don't see that
Starting point is 00:40:49 not because she more than it's more than it, because I'm looking her in octagon
Starting point is 00:40:56 like it's about the size the same about the same the same a eight yeah yeah I think she's a
Starting point is 00:41:02 yeah so I think she it's been more than it's very much I think apparently I think she had
Starting point is 00:41:09 one seven one seven two but if you're talking and I think a juliana the last
Starting point is 00:41:15 last I did I was I didn't have problem it's to train to right,
Starting point is 00:41:21 right? It's the type of thing we just will be discovered there's a kind of a kind of a exactly,
Starting point is 00:41:27 the force of her, everything, all right, all the force of the type of that's the type of that's the people, there's
Starting point is 00:41:35 people, there's people who like in intimidate, there's a more than you get more to see, some pripment
Starting point is 00:41:40 to get a hand in the arm in the but, you do it, but you see, the body, the body,
Starting point is 00:41:43 how you feel like with this moment of this moment of the encounter, I think
Starting point is 00:41:48 also, I think the look in the eye, I look in the eye, I'm in the whole of the
Starting point is 00:41:52 whole of the person, so I can see too, I can't see, I can't see, like the person's,
Starting point is 00:41:59 if the person is a person not, if the look, if you are with a look at a look to do you,
Starting point is 00:42:05 like a little bit, I think it visibly in her that she was, you had been to make
Starting point is 00:42:11 the person that she was a little insecure, but I don't use to medront anybody,
Starting point is 00:42:16 I do make a carada there, I also always complimented. I don't the style of the person
Starting point is 00:42:21 that I'm making provoking, I'm making making a thing is there's the thing. The thing is we're going
Starting point is 00:42:30 there's a way in the same. How is you think you will be this lot?
Starting point is 00:42:36 You think it's going to be more a new social? You think for you're there's a finalization?
Starting point is 00:42:43 You know, it tends to be a lot more of the game of solo? I think that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:42:49 a lot of Jiu-Git that's a chou, it's, it's a characterific of her she's a she's not a
Starting point is 00:42:56 man that she's not my character I'm not doing my characterita, I don't be a Luana that was an
Starting point is 00:43:03 old, I was actually, I'd be back to I'm trying my character if depended to me
Starting point is 00:43:09 not be a lot of not be a lot of the initial I'm I'm done I'm trying
Starting point is 00:43:14 to try a porada with her there has many failures in trocaation, so I will abuse
Starting point is 00:43:18 to this. I believe that she, no, I believe that she, by the style of her, and I think all the loot of her, and all the of the women, it does the same thing, so I believe that she will want to do that she'll do, she'll do, she'll
Starting point is 00:43:35 and all right, so, so it will depend on how it will be the last, how she'll see she will be able to be grudar, at times I also, I'm also in the troika I can't get to-doca, so probably
Starting point is 00:43:48 golfs of judo terer in the luster. With certainty, but I'm ready for all-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-tru-chon. I'm trying to go to the and to-chown, and we're going to-
Starting point is 00:43:59 some of those oldos and there's a finalization that you did in the SFT that you actually even in a lute earlier, which is a
Starting point is 00:44:07 kind of that was very quite the that Ronda da yeah. I remember when it was that she was that
Starting point is 00:44:13 I did she's I did it I did it two days yeah I finished with her two days
Starting point is 00:44:19 it's a characteristic my everyone when I'm when I'm when I'm know
Starting point is 00:44:24 I'm because I know in the Kizha Tami that is a position of Judo
Starting point is 00:44:29 and when I do the goal there that I see the brao the person there I
Starting point is 00:44:33 I've I learned this technique two days two three days before the first time
Starting point is 00:44:39 I did a lot of a question in the final-lotta. I learned the Dr. Ellis of 0.11
Starting point is 00:44:45 that he showed and I got to be the car of this finalization and not did another.
Starting point is 00:44:52 At my start, in the first road I did the and I my fourth
Starting point is 00:44:58 lute, in my third-luta of the MMA I also I'm also this is the
Starting point is 00:45:05 type of finalization that if you do you will explode you will get the premium
Starting point is 00:45:10 of finalization in year because she's spectacular. But just not was elected because nobody saw it, because it was in a event
Starting point is 00:45:15 regional from Brazil and Brazil. Exactly. I was conversed with people of the academy. I said,
Starting point is 00:45:21 if you did the NFC this finalization, it's a certain that you will get a bonus and what I
Starting point is 00:45:27 said, I said in my first, in my first time, I don't have a opportunity
Starting point is 00:45:29 to do with a certain this finalization will be in the F. depending
Starting point is 00:45:36 of me, I'm with it's automatic my just do it
Starting point is 00:45:39 do you do. And it's a really, it's a finalization that you don't see nobody doing, nobody does, for the cost of the judo, right? It's very difficult if we see people doing a Kedda of Judo, because not a thing normal. But if you dependers of me, with a
Starting point is 00:45:53 certainty, it will be. She also, she's a specialist in the judo and all. She has experienced, she'll in a DCC, in front of Gabi Garcia, in 2019, that was when Agabiss she was turned a moral champion, and she she was, he was, he did a
Starting point is 00:46:09 We have a chance of travel to Gabi. What she does, for the MMA, these competitions that she does do you know, these competitions, like,
Starting point is 00:46:16 this comes attention, you open the eyes, or you think, not it's sports different, not does difference. What we're in the MMA is another
Starting point is 00:46:24 thing. Yeah, for me, are things totally different. It's, even if you're not really,
Starting point is 00:46:31 it's not really poorada in the car, and porrada in the car and the total the arsenal of the
Starting point is 00:46:36 car, if she's just to just to do a key to do and I can batte in her and she's not just jiu-jit-s
Starting point is 00:46:44 you're just to get rolling with a person, have been porrada so m-m-a jiu-jit's jih-m-a jih-m-a-jid-sjit's just jih-git's
Starting point is 00:46:54 no, no, don't have come to compare, because at the moment that can't the
Starting point is 00:47:00 the scenario it's totally so who so can't you get a leg-on-sor with a combination she stust
Starting point is 00:47:07 you put a to the back of the guata past. Exactly. And the American and $50,000 in the box. Ah, so, I'm trying for this. Oh, so much. Oh, manor, Lana.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Oh, boy, thank you, for your time. I'm going to get back in the last year. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For the opportunity of the interview.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Galera, thank you. I'll assist. Sabadown. I'm going to make more on show. I'm training very very d'Uro. And, who can't
Starting point is 00:47:34 come on a knockout to know, in the first radio, let's see. A we can't be with the session of this week of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:47:42 I'd like on Alexander Pantoja, Luana Santos, and a friend and a friend of the same. Another one Wrault,
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