MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Amanda Nunes abre o jogo sobre saída da ATT e luta com Kayla Harrison

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Primeira mulher a conquistar dois cinturões no UFC, Amanda Nunes mudou tudo a caminho da revanche com Julianna Peña. Em entrevista exclusiva ao Trocação Franca, a Leoa explicou a saída da American Top Team, como a presença de possíveis rivais na academia a incomodou, se toparia revanche com Cris Cyborg, e muito mais. Na sessão Fight Week, entrevistas com Ketlen Vieira, Santiago Ponzinibbio e Jailton Malhadinho, que lutam sábado no UFC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Amanda Nunes has changed everything heading into her rematch with Julianna Peña. In an exclusive interview with Trocação Franca, the first woman to win two UFC belts explains why she left American Top Team, why she was bothered by potential opponents training in the same gym, her thoughts on a rematch with soon-to-be free agent Cris Cyborg, and more. Today's episode also includes interviews with Ketlen Vieira, Santiago Ponzinibbio, and Jailton Almeida ahead of Saturday’s UFC event. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! The 37 episode of the podcast,

Trocaption, a show of M.MA, in this immense podosphere. I'm Gailin'Cruis, correspondent of the site American in M.M.IFIREO in Brazil, and I'm going to be back this quarter-fearing

in the company of the championinissimo Amanda Nunes for many of the best lot of the MAA in all the time. The champion the Superino of D.C conversed with a podcast

direct to Florida where he's training to revance with Julia Anna Penh to try to retom the citron of the Gals the UFC and you

listen now this bat-pap thank you a pleasure to receive here in a podcast for the first how are the how are the

course of your last time had been negotiations with you, it came down they've defined to doff

that was a idea that had you offered in the past and it happened the time

the time the time the time with the time to see the to the whole of the how many

how many how do you it's been it's been quite okay will give you William so I

think that Juliana was talking much she's a she's a falastron and I

think she she she she really would get to to tough but

but so not not really this that I was she

she was been very tranquil totally different than she really she's she was

she was she was forcing right because it's going to be launched on

television and she she doesn't she so so because she

she's she says she's she's she she's and more

she's she's she's the same way in tough I

would care legal for her. I think she gave a security just to not say

so, so pesed for her. I think was very tranquil and it was a experience

legal, it's it's a athlete to a coach is a a mudance brusca

that it's for it's that they even liberer to leave the

my coach or who I want to me to be to me to me help and

all. So it was exactly what I did. I left coach to me to help in my decisions there, and I'm going to get the athletes. And it was

it, it was a real thing, it really me did 100%, I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, who, were, they were now my friends

too, uh, we, we created a good, was, was, it was,

was, was, it, was, was, it was, and it's, and it's,

So, it was a experience marvellous and that with a lot for me to this experience. You think that

this thing about was more a control of image, for she's to be a cause,

or maybe she's she's always, she made the posture there, the marra

that she met in the interviews and in the social, she,

she, she, not, not banked much front-a- front- -frey

with you. Yeah, exactly, I think, that she she was a little, for the

cause of the media and all the and also for being me there's I think that

she, if she she was she was she was she was she was she

she was she was she was she was on the things and I said to say

I said I said oh in the internet you you know you know I'm

here now now I'm about about the bo ab aboca but was very

tranquil. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm not to provoke and all, but I

asked you know there, but I'm there, because the tough is that's it, it's a,

it's a reality the people want to see drama, the people want to see, this

things, I've I've so I'm some point to see some something,

but it's not, it's not, it's she's in the

interview, she said, she went in the you're contrary, you enter the mind of her, that at the time she gave a famous

arregada, right? Yeah, exactly. I don't understand nothing. I was just still trying really something than she

was doing she was a finetable that she'd not personally, like you said, personally, she said, she said, in interviews,

that the category Pes-upena, you're being a champion of her, not significant a thing, that's a category

of a athlete so, that's not so much to try to to try to to try to to be

you're in going to continue to defend the two? So, so, no, it's,

for a other, she said, she said, it's really, really, yeah, in the

category, is a category small, a category really, a category really, it's a

need, of a job, of an investment, but, like, it's,

it's, the, the, the, the, the, the the,

the, the, the I was getting this this challenge to do that with the crisis,

it was a question that I accepted and did a certain and I made a champion in the category also,

and the category existing or not I'm turning I'm a champion of that category, I'm, and so

with the FC will be to put to to be in the category to come now, now

there was a woman who looked with a norma, he got I'm going getting.

With a great a future opponent. No, I don't be to be, I don't

make to do the category and to any way, 145, with one, two, three,

athletes, the important is to have a lot of, and I continue being the

category, I'm going to continue to be and so, the my revanch with her,

with my first thing, I, I want my the

derotty me motivated me motivable I'm in a way to me desmotivar really me

gave that injection of anem and with sure I'm made reverve various things and

me made also also do many many many many times

so I really I really I go defend the two I will continue in this

same vibe what will roll what to what to talk I don't

I don't don't to let me single one of two is a question,

I'm a I'm here to do it, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing,

I'm doing, I'm doing, she she said, she's, that's a, category maybe parada and but I

continue being champion, I continue defending this centuron, if there some opponent, I'm there to

defend his 1545, and then we'll see so, this is this is the result, in a instead of demotivar.

What did you, because you, in some interviews, I said, ah, I'm going to play football, I'm going to to be able to

do your mind to do? The Pinguino that you, that you thought in to be to be a m. And it was

going to be in that night. I think that, in the fact the passion for the sport to say

more than more than, I, I, I, I am everything, everything that involves the

MMA, I think it's always difficult a person to be a person to be a

in the in my patamar in the age, and what I can't and what I can

make more, I think this revanche will be a other great conquest I I really

I really will pick this cintron of back, without, without any

and it will be going to get to the story more once a whole

and and it is that that's what is what does the MMA

me make sure so far so because it's a thing I know,

I'm I'm, I'm, I depend of me to get or

to and sometimes to work in group it's kind of football

for me in the initial was the was the more was was the big of the team. It was really.

We depend on the people, to get to get something, and this is that me does force and continue and,

and with the I have much even, I'm going to do 34, I have a lot to offer to the sport

and it is like I I'm, it's like, I'm, for some I had to get to

get to that night, you know? and also for some mistakes that I did during the camp me costed a lot

because if I really I'd have 100% training well with certain that would be my and I would continue with my centuron but for my decisions

head, hard, as many, all the world pass for this I think as we have to get to learn,

and what happened with me. In this time the championship I did a mistake, cost my my centuron, so now

it's a battle to get to get a back to this revanch has been data? She said

she'd get a September, the same card of John John Jones did

offer some something to you? Say it a year, something, but

nothing certain I'm still still I'm waiting. You know, how it's what's a

website but but I hope that's in July so I'm

focused just I'm in camp and then, you know, it's a pertinent, I'm sorry,

to pick this sinta in a lot. You said, you said that the difference of MMA for football, for example,

that's a sport of group, MMA, is you, it's you, that's you, but to get a little one

team at your place, and you have many different different in this case, you know,

starting the new team, bringing the new new trainers, how is this adaptation, this new family and this new

house, the Cerrador. So the academia for me always was a great dream, like to be a place to train

and I always was an American a team being a an academy grand of a team, I

always did my train separated, yeah. Some days I would have to do the group, but

I always did my training more reserved with my coaches and all. So, this new

new mudance for me this not was a a change even of the environment, but

my trainings and my only the only, so I'm just, just just took the

address, and also the time, um, the other were the trainers who were in

my camp, especially for Ronda Rouse and the my strike coach, Roger Pro, he was

in that a lot of Ronda, me trained the camp entire for Ronda Rouse and

for other also, he had he had present in in great luts and is

a guy who know me, knows my style, know my fialies too, that we need to get my family,

and Kame, too, who is a professor of wrestling, who also was with me in Tuff, the Rogen also was with me. So, so,

some people who have passed in my life, in America Top Team, but they, as, as, as,

as, as they, now, not are not, not are the people, not,

not, but continue, being the coach, of other athletes and then there's much a mudance in ski

I'm very comfortable because are people who are people who are and it's it's it we're adding some things

also a professor of jihitsu and things that I just I always do I think so I'm

not a interest really and talking in academia in training you you will go now

to do the class in a metaverse, a quote, you know, a thing you've got to be used to a business,

how is it how it's exactly, I mean, in your Instagram you're posting videos there training,

doing, doing the some, the ensigns, how is that exactly? Yeah, very low,

when I came to grab this, po, very surreal so, because much a camera

and, my camera, and, so, a experience very different, I never did a

first and I do a I'm very anxious for I I want to see, I want to see how it will because you don't have noceau when you're

there's not even though, you know, but just the time of the filmage, how it was all, I know that's a thing, top, you know,

and I'm very anxious to see and it's a way to we're just to interact with online, it's very cool to do

make coach online, it's be very very cool, see there and do there and do this new project but be very interesting. There's even

an event that announced recently that will do a event in the metaverse like this time we see Amanda Nunes doing a lot on a lot of

a better you? You know I believe that will this new this new passery is

very much really nice so I'm so I'm anxious to see the results yeah of the

filmage of all and it's this is a new new thing that I think will be much more

much in the system like online and one of the other big about talking about about about about the

same time with the side of the world was polloverous there was because I had the desire of the people to be

possibly you against you against you against you not they're they're they're

not they They're the same academy and so this not going to happen. It's the way that's the door to this possibility, right?

It's really, the fact, the ports for this possibility? How is the relation of you today and not

do more part of the same team? I think, I think, I think, it's,

all the challenge is very very well-vinded, right? Who, who looks to do not the top,

who's is, testing the time all, you want to be really motivation to

continue to keep on record doing history and I think with the after my side,

it's just depends of Kaila and sign with F.C. and all I'm going to be there

and I'm going to be there and it's sure that now it's

very better for the one on in your can't have

there there there some people I'm I'm I'm

with the situation with the situation it's a that the that the

fans would have to be that all the world was very excited she said

she said she said she said she'd and she and everything and so we're

we're in we're in we're we're trying very little we we'd

when we when we we'd when we was separate and it was separate and all

so, clear that now it is a more easy to talk about the

thing, because when you divide the same the same space of the same space of academia

is a little complicated and know because there in America Top Team when I came there

no there, no, I, I, was the first woman to

bring the two signet feminines femininins and and bot to

really the team feminine in the story so when when Keila came to

and then and then after the Kinnitskaya also was, was coming to create

a gel for me because she was my territory and then I was getting

a woman of my category, in Skya, which is 135. When she came, she was in the head was in the future opponent.

If she would be for Kathleen, she would be a future opponent for me. And she got back in this phase of

her career that she was for a trice to maybe be the next opponent. And then she appeared

there in the academy. Then I took a such when I came in the academy. I said,

I said, I was like, no, not, no, Kinnitskay. So, like, it was creating

the gel. And Keelah also started to say, I'm like, car, even in my territory,

I'm, I'm, I'm still, like, I'm being, being respected, not in the place where you

were first, yeah, the house, she got, and, I was a , I'm a disrespeat

and just say, and you're getting to get to yeah. And, yeah,

we, we, we, we, we did the same the professors,

you, she, She trained with Mike Brown, I train with Mike Brown. So, when she went, when she went to there, there was a, yeah, there was a,

a, a, I'd have been with them, you know? So, and when she started to say, I'd like, I'd like,

and the things started to create more gel, I'm, I said, well, it's an, great,

it's an, show of ball, she, was, she'd, I'm, but, but,

then, It's a little more. Like, she wants to to fight with me so for her to do with her has to do

another place. If there's a person who want to leave the name of the academy, I'm who I who brought

the two signorons to get to get to get to into, you know? I think

that if if I if I don't if I really really, I am like a champion of the

category of 145 and I was of the two categories still in that time that she was talking, was saying,

be-neutral, but I was I was a champion so, like, like, there would be to be in other

place to be to the other place, but in this this, this thing and all, she,

she, she was gonna with another with a show that she was and all, but not

was a a lot that I like I like I like I said I saw a

opportunity she's a opportunity she's for show of ball for me I'm I'm in

I'm into because this is the the lot the lotator needs to the challenge of the

people who want to the people want to and the lot and the

and boom you so when when when when it when you when

when it when I started to and then I I lute and I

I'm a great moment of I'm re-justed because I'm I'm

get my seaturon to get my and this can be a lot with her she'll

definitely depending on with her she will be dependent of her I'm going to be

there I'm going I'm I'm I'm the form correct

for me to me to she to she to she

to she to me, you know? This is the correct, now to

ask the because I'm not more there. So, this is the form more more correct of her,

tack a language on the microphone, call, do what, what for, and I'm going to be there

going to be going to be to be there. We're going to know if it's going to roll out or not, yeah,

that's a year, but it's it's a problem, to go, to work, or look at the other side, Mark Brown, start in other traders

that during much time you've got to be prepared for the two years to be in the corner opposite? Man, for me, not quite be strange, no, you know?

Because, like I said, the academy there, the academy that the coach, they train them all the world. So, I'm just I'm accustomed to see Mike Brown training a lot of people, and,

and particularly training in Akela, training other men, so for me it's been very tranquil, very normal

because it was a thing I was always in Vemakbara training all the world, Andersen's training all the

world, so, so never there was an exclusivity for nobody because they are

contracted of the academy to do this, so, so, so, so,

so, so quite this will be very very very And so more two topics

before of us to be a great a Grisie Borges, that is another person who

says that she's she's she's in the year of the year, the contract

with a with Belal Torce in Serra she can know, but it's

live in the market, she can go to PFL and you can be to work

to a person, because it's a name forth to the category to the a category that needs

of people, or for you, if she'll go back a lot, but if not it's, I got her one way,

I don't have a problem. I mean, I think, the UFC is the event of the world.

I think, I think, any, any, any person that you ask, to be able to

question, I think, with the focus of Chris would, she would, she'd would,

she'd sign a with the FC, and I'll go to work and I'm in front again, I think imagine there's,

then come a crisis, then in a little, then I'm a little, the category is a strong

then, now, now it's only depends of them, I think each one, every one

knows what does, but I will be there going to because of the FC I don't

never, man. And you, you, you, you, the UFC no,

but you you have a date in your mind, so, I don't, I don't I don't want to. It's not, it's a lot. It's not.

You've got this year and a more line of a year in your career there, you think, I'm getting old, in,

andresterp, like, like, like, I don't pass, of a thing, or even,

no, I think, I think there much a thing to happen to happen, I think, it's,

with this derrotta for Julian, I think there much thing still

to in my life and for some reason everything, everything, everything

I'm going, then I'm after I get this sinturon there, with certain I

want to want to make the more rapidly to to defend because

the most good to get the thing is the thing I think

to defend it's good and more more to continue and

continue in history and it's better even, so let's see,

when the people I'm going to do you're in I'm in just to be sure a thing here in the

thing that's people are really in the way, is that you have been a champion a dupe of the

UFC, have gained to do you all the world, you know, all the champions of course, you go to-you-annes, but you don't have the

What happens? What do you do you ask you like to see the same way that's a lot of a single way? The same way he's a monotaur

or see a Aldo, a Charles of Broncos? I think it's because I know here I'm here

I'm I'm here and my career started here my career in the FC in an event great,

Strike Force in that I really had to go out of Brazil if I had

had been to but you know because you know you know you know

you know it and all in Brazil so when when it's when it's I

opened a door and I went to and I made a God I'm turned to who I'm that I'm

because I'm here my career started here so with more emphasis

here and it's that I think I think the the the people

the the galara the guys got more it's, it's, maybe, I don't

know, I don't know, I don't don't know they're doing what, do you?

Sending, being very sincere, I've, I've been asked, how I know,

I've been a, yeah, I'm a one of the great strals of Brazil,

she, she, she's, and to, and to be, the impression that you know,

you've got to you just, you know, you just, you know, more question of to persegue

you know you go to you get a money, then you go to get your and then you're a car with your

time that's a time that you get to make a time you know that you're not a question to be doing you're doing this

I'm okay I'm sorry or I'm yeah for sure I think today it's that's not

it's not not even from my case so I'm it's it's a thing

that really really really really really really when I The my

my major pleasure is really to be able to make my work, it's, like you

said, my life financial is being, to be able to do what I want to

my life. And, and especially with my family, that is the

my family, to have my family, to have a moment, very, very good,

so, in our life, that when a Reagan when a Reagan has been, the life moved,

so, yeah, much love, much, much, much, a lot, she brought

to us to a person, and this there's, car, I, no, I'm sure for you,

and I'm going to tell, popularity really, so, many people say, oh,

it needs of popularity really, to the patrocine and all, I, like, so, thanks a God, for I not have this

popularity in the Brazil, here, here in the States United, I'm very well known, and also, the most

my patrocinos are all here and in the Europe, you know? So, I really, I have a

very good, very good, stabilised financiallyly, with my patrocinios, and it's that,

I, never had any opportunity of any of any other company Brazilian, until the

of the day of today, like, to be to be so, for this

for me, my life here is very better. Imagine, I imagine. I was, this I

imagine that, but I imagine that you would obviously would be to have the

recognition here in Brazil too. No, clear, I think,

and, and so, when I go to my city and all, the moral, talk with me,

to take a photo, all this. The guy really really, it's, me pass that kind of, that's kind of

that thing. I'm more like, maybe on social media, maybe, but, in many places I'm in many places,

I'm in many places, I'm in many people, I know, and, do a major moral, so. But I,

I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, on the other side, also, maybe

of patroncino, these things, that's very deval there's also,

there's a question of the economy, not there's not you don't have a American

and so the my, my, my, my, my, my,

whatever I do, whatever I do, I, I, I, I,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm whatever, if I , if I go,

if I I'm invited for something here I always I'm being being remunerated for the

things that I do, if I go in a restaurant to eat, if I go in a

bar, if I go in a festival to be in a place to this and that's a

thing, the athlete here really he really he is recognized this form and nobody

nobody calls for to go in a place in a place Everyone offers

a cotia, something, you know, to, this is the work of our people, we're doing,

we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, this is, this is, this way that we can

sustain our our, the things, it's with the world, with all this, I think,

here, it's a very, for me, so, so, I'm very for Brazil,

because if I go to Brazil, to be much to I'll perco, I perco much here. And get in dollar

is better than than real. With certain with you say, but I'm like I said. I go to Brazil, I adore it to Brazil and I've been two years that I don't go because, even more

now, after the pandemic, I'm a lot more to do, much things to do. Until now with sport, Medafas, also,

so, so, so, many things are in many partnerships, so if I whisked the old,

the poor in Brazil, like I pass the bat here, you know, so when the moment

is good so, it's good to it's good, it's that I go to

Brazil to go to to the Brazil to and I know, to be my

life, this, this, this my life here, me brought

much this in America and especially in the independence in,

my surreal. If you ask you ask you, a lot of people who are in

many people who are people who are and there. And it's all of everyone want to be in Brazil

and get here, nobody and nothing, I'm with a country that I'm a country that I

have been but it's that one will be where I can't where I'm going to

get my things, where I be more remunerated and And then you go, you go procuring these spaces,

no, no more just, nothing more merced, nothing more merce, nothing more because excellent, the athlete,

who are the career, I'm a panna-pong, yeah, it's a man, it's a man, it's a man, it's a man,

who's not, it's not, well, for sure, but the more more than this more than this is,

this, this, this, this, this year, this is a Thank you, too, for the attention, Amanda. Success on this revanch with a Julianne Paine,

and it, brings the cintanoural to Brazil, with us. With certain. We're together. Thank you. And in session Fight Week, with interviews more short and focused specifically in the duties

of this final of the month, I'll converses with Kathleen Vieira, who does the Luton of C. V.C. Vega and Saturday, St. Diego Ponsinib, the Argentino, who does the co-principal, and Michelle Pereira and Jae O'Me

One of the new sensations Brazilian in O'FSI, that sobe to category to effect the peso PECISTA. The interviews come as soon, yeah,

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Buy yours at go-transit.com slash tickets. A lot of a principal in a UFC against a champion, Role-Hrombe, a lot of a huge opportunity in this career. How is it a preparation? How is it a spirit of this great challenge? So, first, I'm very grateful to God, very happy with opportunities that we've given. I don't have any words to thank you to thank you.

everything that I've been doing in my life I'd have done in a

event and I'm never and then God me did to now two

two two ex champions so so gratitude I'm prepared

very for this lot really really most those the

most my best my best my time I've

many my faith so that's What do that that contraught

you brought to the approach because you know that does a main event not a

not a lot of a lot common, there's a list of compromis that you

have to do the pre-lut is different the attention that you receive the piece of

responsibility? With certainly the the lute was very

important it was the first that I looked in five rounds so

I was I was quite preoccupated in the beginning of the last the

the camp when I pegged the opportunity to try to be able to try to the time but I always

think of the plans of God in my life and it was a year one way

for the COVID of the mission so God me gave an opportunity to me

prepare even more and thanks to God to get to the

five rounds and with this this this this this

how I do you have how to do you five rounds. How much you you want to

you know a athlete after that experience and have learned what you have learned in it? So,

with a victory, I think, a victory a lot of a chance we get a much motivated, I came in

the academy motivated, depending on the victory and the result, I came very motivated in the

expectation of my next a lot, it was a lot of an extreme importance to me.

Not just of amadurecement as an athlete more personal too. The Hollyholm is the type of the other

you'd ever to see the same or you superendable a lot more even? So, so I always

always pick all the luts that the FCM and the UFC is realizing more a dream my own my dream is

to look with the world, yeah, campaign, and ex-campiands so I became very

very happy with the opportunity that the UFC is me doing, to me test more one way against a other ex-campiante.

So, I not imagine but, of course, that in the position that I was what would be able to get the athletes

that are the same as me. So I became very happy with an opportunity. And she has a advantage in relation to

you in the experience, you know, you said, it's your second round, and she has

done many, she put the centurral, she practically dispute centurral, every time that won't a lot,

so, she has this, this baggage of various of 25 minutes where you you think

the advantage with the advantage with her So the role is a really a athlete as a

when you say if you can tell my number of the numbers of the number of

the lute that she lot took five rathes so there has a

experience very great but my advantage not not

with her the same the last I said earlier the

a a lute, it's my my form to get to get to to get a opportunity

a day to me turn a champion or to dispute a centuron so that's my want to

my form to get to get where she has the form that you have she has

not not have not not have been after she she's she put

the champion but but she's the last she she's

she she she think she she she still she still of a person who's who's trying there

for the first you know, like you're more in test compiling the table there, gaining the money,

doing a career, but not with an ambition to be a champion again. I think a athlete of Rolin,

never per ambition. I think she should be a champion normally, she's not, she's

getting in motivated, it's a person, and she's a great name, and she

never will enter in a lot to to be, or thinking that will I think she

will be in going to get some with her with all the arms of her like I'm to make

a new chance by the title but I believe she's that she's going to the athlete that she

will come in with that she'll come in you're going to you think you do you don't costum thinking

in this I always I'm very realistic, have my feet in my past in the I'm

prepared to do five rounds. I'm prepared for to fight five rounds, and that's made a want to God. It's not in the good way to do. She has a good characteristic of the procaation, you know? You have a base more in Jujit and so. How is

it going to prepare for this style of it? A person that is so experienced in the box, in the kickbox? It was very difficult me to prepare for this luteu. For divers factors, it's an athlete parimbaid, experienced, customated to fight five rounds. It's a manhlete that is

canyot, there. Some poxed that there in the category, so, but you have to, there's a training specific, you know, to train with a lot of canyotas, it's a lot of

a lot of a lot in-pe have a good defense, of the quads also if you go to assist the clutas

of her, you'll be that you'll see that was a trainingment very difficult, but

in the final of the camp was very satisfactory, I and the team, we're very happy,

like the form that we, termed this camp, God has been present the time

the time all, me, me, I'm doing it's probably that you occupy the place of her.

So you think you're going in this battle this will be the next to get in the front of the

winner? Yeah, so, Guilene, I don't like to think about much on

the depois. Yeah, it's been that's not done to be to be sure and then

after me, to be I'm thinking on the ROLie, for me so exists the Rory

now, even if I don't pass for her what I will do I'm going to start with

my team sit with recommenced. So I'm focused on it. And it's a pass of every time.

If I could get a bit of this at a bit of this event, then we'd think that in the

next time. Discopa just for we'll just to finish a we're a category, you

know, you're in a category Pekhous Nogues, but the category the PESop

on the FC, it's been more than there's not there's there, there's

many of two of gats of there but there's a centuron

the cintrion the command You've got to this possibility I know I think you I think you never

did a ruta in Pesopena before but you consider this possibility to maybe sub-divisal for having

a way more short to the title? Yeah, I don't discard possibility of any

not for a long for a long that I think that in my life I never

I never I used to come a for a big deal to for me I would

but my focus is champion, Peasogalo. It's my my son, to be championed Peasulgallo, and I'm focused on this. I don't know if it's an opportunity much great, or something, but

my focus is in Pezogal, but if there's an opportunity, that I don't discard. I like to do a great challenge. So, Santiago, getting close to more a lot, and, and, falling on some years, to enter in October, no, infant,

Michelle Perey. How is it was this cake person was important, against an athlete a Brazilian, and an athlete that is impugant, there's a style different than the last adversaries there. Man, really really very content,

a lot's super, no, as you say, an emotional, there's, I'm going to say, a very impugant. There's a very impugant. For the fanatics and for me, too,

a style of a different, totally different, of Monsieur Pereira, a lot of a lottero very very impressive, a lotator of the most spectacular

or the most spectacular that I'm a lot of my it's a a challenge and I'm I'm content

with a challenge, I know we'll make a great a lot will be very good

how you do you prepare for to someone with a style so different so different

so I've I've had two partners who me helped me because they simulated

very in the style of him that was Henderson Ferreira and the Gleiko both were

simuling my simuling the and also the trainers did a work very

good the Pito Levere Catele Cubbs Parumpinia Mike Brown

Stimok Tomo Coney Cernero very very trainer good

a good trainer good a good a support very very

It's very nice for this Lutra. I'm going to my better version. The Michelle, he has

those piruettas, the the gulfs strange that he do, that many

many times, not not certain, but there also have also the factor psychological,

you're in front of a second, you can't do that a single to do you

can do a shoot in the grade and on you can't do you

do you can do something you can do you prepare to you prepare to

this imp visibility? Sure, what I said is a a challenge, because that impredicidivitable that he has really does very very dangerous. He

he showed his power of knockout, he showed that he is a great creative in the Octagon so, have to respect to, have to do the work well and I'm very content with this lot.

You, a guy that was a guy that he was a lot for the luthas against Raphael of the Angels a time back in this confront Brazil, Brazil, that's

traditional in football, it's been the confront with Brazil, but it's with Michelle Pereira. There's even the desire to Rafael, which is a man who, you

and he, and the other, and the other and said, all, accusing, to do you, and yet

got to get a question of Raphael? But, no, I don't have nothing with Raphael, rap, I,

but I just wanted a good in a moment, and there's a no reality of any because a guy who represents the

good of Brazil, and that's a person who knows. I just wanted this a lot. So they made this a lot, now with Pereira. I think we have the quality of doing a great lot and I'm very content with this possibility. And we're going to go there, we're going to go ahead,

and so, because Raphael, now, is now so I'm going to put a little of this... Yeah, but... Yeah, no, I just think it's a lot of a lot of good, in 170-libr, and, I was trying to get a lot. Really, I really don't have absolutely nothing in the other person of his, just to want a lot, but no.

Just have respect, because a guy who has a story in the organization, you know? So, now he went to the Pesolero, and he's not really well. DeCeasio for him, car. And about this other than the Michel, you're in this moment of to return the way of the victories

after that deroget for Jeff Neill in December. How is that that battle, that lot, you motivate for this of now? You use this as a combustion? How is you lead in this moment, so? Yeah, I think I got that lot, it was a decision divided. Many people I think I got.

Of fact, the champion Cameroosman, He was my friend, he tweeted, he thought that I won the luta. So, when they offered me the Lutera the number 10 of the world, it was a decision divided, I repeat, I think I gained. And so, I

pertain to that elite of the leaders, the best of 70 Libras. So, more one of a one, a challenge for the front, a loter different, a loter imprediciable,

I took as a a challenge, me prepared for him and I'm going to make my better version to gain this and I'll

continue in a way for the title world. You think that they're put him against the

Michel, may it also show that the kind of you're treating as you're being a

battle because Michelle is coming of four victories he's he's so

the obviously he doesn't get someone against someone in a

action there like if it was the other the other also. I've got to put

to a perfect countervers. Yeah, I think they know that every when I

go into an octagon I do a show, I'm a lot good, I always

do lots of the company, I've many years in the company, and it's

a lot costelar, Michel, is a guy who came with a style that

he he has to do he's there's many the company, but he

is making much a very big of a lot where there's many so much of the world. So, for me, the ultimate, an opportunity to to show my work, I know that will have a lot of this

and I can't show of what I'm doing. And how do you think you see this? A lot. I, doing what I always do, I'm going to go to my mom. It's a man, my mom, I'll try to look at a knockout, and go to pressur, and let me see what

What happens, if he will go to the three-somes, but I'm very well prepared for this. Guys, after an excellent a first one of the F.C., it's been a new now, now,

the Pescoe, no, man, to you say, I'm not too, I'm not too, I'm pretty much in house, in, actually,

that's my third time that I've seen here in the Wattaker, I'm still, thank you, God, is the category of the

Pesado I'm not sub not subed much not so I'm doing my

personal and I'm going to come in the way of to work in the diet.

With the the try of the and not need to make more to

make sure the the adaptation that I did was the was the fact

in the fact I didn't not after in the training I, Carlos Bowie, Andre Monstro, Dance Us Airt,

the men who are in the category of Peduesado, which are in the category of Peders, so the training, the training, not, but I just moved a little in the foodation, right, more than a more of carbohydrate, and then it was a more than good, right?

But in terms of training, I always with the men's, I always did with the men's, you know? You've ever did some other of Precious Dezazado or not? Or not? Yeah, I did a lot of pain, I was in Salvador.

I mean, not in Salvador. And I don't know me really too well, it's very good, I'm not very good, I'm going to get, you know, you think that's the force, you know,

the finalizations, with the stress when you pass your body, for the cost of the piece, that you, that you, that you can't really much in this category?

Yeah, if you don't suffer much to be able to You don't soft in any way, not much I, who I'm, that I'm of 9.3, I need to just maintain my pace normal and do some adaptations, like to work more velocity,

that you end up getting a little bit of velocity. And then the force always. Normally, you pay as to how? You know, you're going to 103, 104 kilos. I see. Bate 8.4, it's impossible? Bate 8.4. Today, it's impossible.

I don't can't get 8.4, no. You're working on 9.3 and the chaketra? Yeah, it's all right here in 9.3. It's all right. And, and by the time, analyzing the style of your adversary, the porter, how do you think you you think you win this battle in the end of the end of the weekend?

As a guy, as I'm saying, I'm talking about my employer, he has a style much of Carls-Boy, right? The style, like, much of Carlos Boe. That guy, a brigadier, like he goes to the war he's a guy who

not felt much gas and he doesn't really, he's a person who not quite a not can't

do you do that he so I'm a man who's a very versatile in the part the part of the grepri

and I will try to a little this job I'll just a little and try for doing

my game which is the game he's putting to back back back back

the first I think the first one in the first you think this game He won't win a knockout, a knockout, a technical, a knockout, a or you think you finalize him?

I think I'll do it. I think I'm a final. I think I'll get a punch, I get a pound, you know? I can't get a pound, and then I can't do a break, and I'll get a finalization, too. And for you, in the last one, the last one, he went to the last year, Chogun, it, and he fenced a Vin, San Tru,

recently, and, and, and losing the decision and so this is a another one that's a little bit of a moment but no roll it, let's let's go back there. It was what you said now. It was a good idea, like, like, like this, like this was a good idea, but I'm not I'm just a good idea, but I'm going to do,

I'm going to do this, my second lot of the contract, and to see, to see, to see that I'll put it, no, no matter. You're open to, to do you do more other of the Piso after that's?

Yeah, we're going to study after the way of the how it's how much, how it was the way

and I'm going to me say well, me say, and we'll be able to be a number and three.

Uh-huh. Or this category. Yeah, we see, the two categories are a moment different, uh,

the Pek, there's always that thing, no, a category more rase, so, so,

they're getting to the top of the division is practically more fast, not, but, more,

more, more, because there's less people there to the top but even I think I'm now that's

a moment of strange in the division with the end of saying that's coming to end up

so you think in a middle of a global as a champion there's a little longer

of the people getting up the people you know

there's there has been the advantage with this too there have the

advantage that the the weight of the category very really really

it's more it's more fast to get a titular right,

you know? And with the game that I do you don't have category, like,

not there's like, you know, you know, you think the your chur-jillo for a life,

so it would I think it would be, I think it's a guy very dangerous in a traga-o-a-o- would be

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