MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Anderson Silva no cinema, o futuro de Charles do Bronx (e mais)

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Primeiro convidado da história do Trocação Franca, Anderson Silva volta ao podcast para falar de um desafio diferente: a carreira no cinema e seus objetivos na sétima arte. O programa recebe tamb�...�m Diego Lima, técnico de Charles do Bronx, para destrinchar a vitória sobre Beneil Dariush e os próximos passos, e conversa ainda com as lutadoras do UFC Norma Dumont e Tabatha Ricci. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The first guest in the history of Trocação Franca, Anderson Silva, returns to the program to discuss new challenges and going from a former UFC champion to working on movies. This week’s podcast also features interviews with Charles Oliveira’s head coach Diego Lima, plus UFC fighters Norma Dumont and Tabatha Ricci. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:45 Ghosts in the Machine, available now, only from Audible. The Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:02:12 Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, loammy and a fan of the Lomboast, No. Giacuctor of M.M.A. The podcast, Trocaation Franca, A Suha, about Ska,
Starting point is 00:02:34 this immense post-Sphere. I'm Gailer M.Cruis, correspondent to the site American and M.M.A. in the States on a company of Anderson-Silva, Lenda of the M.MA that's the end of the
Starting point is 00:02:44 year the film Murder City to bathe a new career in the telones, the plans about MMA EBOx, the appositoria of Amanda Nunes after the record
Starting point is 00:02:53 of the defense and the future, and the success of charles of the Bronx in the organization. So we'll get time, so we'll get in our time,
Starting point is 00:03:21 the other side of the line, we're just a little bit of the FC, now, Lutator of Box, too, and that's always more, that's all right, all right, all right, so much stuff, you're doing, who is being rolled with a chefano
Starting point is 00:03:32 of the traffic to to pay the child to pay the family, and where you end
Starting point is 00:03:37 in this story of this film? I'm I'm in a I'm a
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm a guard cost of the girl amed the situation
Starting point is 00:03:49 a man and the he's a kind of he has a
Starting point is 00:03:56 an obsession for your guard cost of this bad gal
Starting point is 00:04:02 in the story but it's very legal I'm very happy to have participated to be partiped this project
Starting point is 00:04:09 and by the opportunity that Michael Hormos me gave who is a great friend me a
Starting point is 00:04:15 great friend but but that me gave the opportunity to work with actors
Starting point is 00:04:20 incredible it. It's more difficult to do you to do a lot
Starting point is 00:04:25 to do it or it's more difficult to train to not batting in
Starting point is 00:04:29 someone is that you're batting in someone? So, there's two many the lot and the
Starting point is 00:04:34 action, so if you do a choreography of a choreography of a lot, as a person says, no,
Starting point is 00:04:40 but the car, the fight is more easy. It's more difficult, because there the movement
Starting point is 00:04:45 certain, has the angle right, you can't pass the camera, and then the details
Starting point is 00:04:54 there are different, but it's very legal, it's a a challenge that for who who loves cinema, for who goes to films
Starting point is 00:05:06 of action, like I, is super legal. You've done a film of action, you've done films of comedy, a participation in films of the Brazil, you just have voiced voice, who impressed voice for design? What is the genre, the type of film, or so, of the design, that you still have a dream of participation,
Starting point is 00:05:24 that you'd like to live on a day that you don't live here. So, every day that you pass you have things new, I like
Starting point is 00:05:30 of the challenges, so we're we're simultaneously this film Mordesir we filmed
Starting point is 00:05:37 on the past I'm parallelarably in two projects at the time we're
Starting point is 00:05:42 we're running two films here and and you
Starting point is 00:05:46 are filming the two films so it's a
Starting point is 00:05:49 so you are two personalities completely different one
Starting point is 00:05:54 of the other. So you have to study a lot and do you work to work
Starting point is 00:06:00 to work. To figure out to turn to character. You have to turn to one and turn to another.
Starting point is 00:06:07 One is it's a extreme, one does so, so, man, it's very
Starting point is 00:06:13 legal. I always was my dream, not, be an actor of films
Starting point is 00:06:18 of action. So the opportunity that I am, thanks a much
Starting point is 00:06:24 dedication and and showing the impen the opportunity are the opportunities are coming but not
Starting point is 00:06:33 it's not a task not a task I'm used to say that I am a façabra even that I'm
Starting point is 00:06:40 that I'm there's a way that the world of the world of you have to be
Starting point is 00:06:48 to visit to travel to world to know to know to realize the dream
Starting point is 00:06:51 to to work with a film also the thing is the great, the sub-product that the that the lot of the
Starting point is 00:06:55 thing is the world I think the lot of the did many things, me did things
Starting point is 00:07:00 incredible, me did things fantastic and I gave the opportunity to get and I
Starting point is 00:07:06 know the world and I think the my determination and the my
Starting point is 00:07:11 my abdication to some things that are giving this
Starting point is 00:07:18 opportunity to show the I'm a I think are two worlds different
Starting point is 00:07:26 the lute not me help in absolutely nothing in the action I'm sure I'm sure the people say the
Starting point is 00:07:34 guys say but you can't it's not you can't do you don't work because it's so the
Starting point is 00:07:41 there's a lot of there she's doing the name you're you're turning a
Starting point is 00:07:45 person a person known in a world whole, right? Yeah, but in relation
Starting point is 00:07:50 the actuation, to do that's completely different, you know, because,
Starting point is 00:07:57 like, you, you go to a, to a world that is completely
Starting point is 00:08:02 different, and then when you get a test, you go to the audition, the
Starting point is 00:08:09 the luta has nothing to do, the but, but, the,
Starting point is 00:08:14 the name, the caris, The charisma, no, all the loros of the lus of the lute, everything that the lute me brought, she gets in a point that she doesn't, not, you know, this, this, new world that I'm entering,
Starting point is 00:08:31 right? Everyone knows, of course, for the cause of the lute, the majority of the directors are super-fans and all, but it's a lot, but it's a completely different, or you, or you can't be the way that you're going to be, or you're not far,
Starting point is 00:08:45 they think another actor so, they have to be very good, have to be very to be very
Starting point is 00:09:06 to be attentive, to be attentive, to be attentive, you have to see what's going to all the world that's in set, the actors,
Starting point is 00:09:13 the scenes have to, you have to pass the reality, because no it's just to simply get the my files,
Starting point is 00:09:23 say, but not pass the the reality of the personage. So it's very lowco, it's very difficult, not it's easy,
Starting point is 00:09:31 not. I can't even imagine. But where, and in this routine for you, filming now
Starting point is 00:09:37 two films too, where where's the lot in your life today? I see you gopouring
Starting point is 00:09:43 the the family, you have planned way to mark a next a lot, be in the box, or in MMA,
Starting point is 00:09:49 how it's that? This side of your life? So there have a lot of happening, right, at the same
Starting point is 00:09:55 time, now, now, I'm, the time that I have, I'm, my children's
Starting point is 00:10:01 to trainaring. It logically that they have the trainers of box their, each one
Starting point is 00:10:07 have the own, but they're when they're they're, they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:10:12 always training together together. We're trying at the end up the end up we're trying, we're doing, people,
Starting point is 00:10:18 we're doing to be able to there in house, train Jiu-Jit, you know, they're always in pedding
Starting point is 00:10:23 some help in relation the movementation, the box, and Thai, too, I'm always always helping,
Starting point is 00:10:32 but now now, in this moment, I 'm in this moment, I'm in two projects at the same
Starting point is 00:10:38 time, are filming two films at the at the same time. So, are two characters
Starting point is 00:10:43 completely different. And the projects, too, we have with the product,
Starting point is 00:10:49 with the productora, and with the projects to do some events, also, it's a
Starting point is 00:10:55 lot of a lotcura. So, now I'm focused on these two projects, and then
Starting point is 00:11:01 then, long, after this, we have some things are, some,
Starting point is 00:11:05 are appearing in relation the we're not, we're negotiating with Japan, a possible my last LUTA in Japan, because
Starting point is 00:11:15 it has all to have, I started, I'm going to go there, my career international, so probably we're trying that's going to be there too. So, let's see this will happen I'm going to be, I'm going to after I'll terminate, the work in the cinema,
Starting point is 00:11:31 these two projects that I'm doing, we're doing, we pretend to go to Japan and conversar, sat there with the people who are interested in taking
Starting point is 00:11:41 this lot to Japan and to get a career in the MNA there's a Japan, you say the RISING?
Starting point is 00:11:48 Ah, I don't say, go ahead, because there many things happening at the same
Starting point is 00:11:54 time, there, there's various proposals of the working on the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And, and, talking to box, you even even mentioned a time after,
Starting point is 00:12:03 the interest to to be to fronter, who can't say, the winner, a lot that roll in August now, who you think you think, if you actually
Starting point is 00:12:11 you can't even this opportunity, you think that's to try to fight who you guys, or do you think the Jake Paul gain of him?
Starting point is 00:12:16 I don't see. Some two lotters, so, very, very, very, very, d'n't,
Starting point is 00:12:20 the, Nate, is a guy, don't have to say, he has a really, very great
Starting point is 00:12:30 in front, that is to look to Jake, Jake, been training very, and it's dedicating
Starting point is 00:12:35 much, and it's the other people think that the guy is a YouTuber,
Starting point is 00:12:38 no, he's he's training, he's training with some guys duros,
Starting point is 00:12:43 there's some trainers that are good, and it's most, and it's the respect,
Starting point is 00:12:50 so, let's see, what's what will happen what's my focus now to be in these two
Starting point is 00:12:54 projects, and we probably probably, I'll terminate so, we've
Starting point is 00:13:00 started this project in the first of the year. So, one came to three months ago,
Starting point is 00:13:09 and other I just I'm doing from the beginning. So, it's a lotcura. So, it's not
Starting point is 00:13:14 it. So, let's see, we'll be to be a person, or with who can
Starting point is 00:13:23 accept the challenge, I, to look to come to do this will be do this
Starting point is 00:13:27 work to do a lot of a chance to talk with Jake about the the post that you did,
Starting point is 00:13:32 of association of of looters and all, or for in a while not rolled? It's been being an encaminated,
Starting point is 00:13:38 it's being, Jake is a guy who's a man who all over so it's all going to for that
Starting point is 00:13:44 things happen of the form correct and be something that's pick for
Starting point is 00:13:52 the new generations have to be a very well well structured and we're trying
Starting point is 00:13:59 in the same of this manierro And just to we to finish it, I wanted to about you about about two people
Starting point is 00:14:04 of the FC, the first, Amanda Nunes, who recently equaled your record of the defense and and the
Starting point is 00:14:10 reposented, one of the majores of the story, but that unfortunately not is much celebrated,
Starting point is 00:14:14 so, and you think that's what it's felt for her to get to get a level of
Starting point is 00:14:21 your level of notoriety here in a great star, it's all the programs of the television,
Starting point is 00:14:26 fantastic, and all the much, you've been, along of your reenado it should be apisade of
Starting point is 00:14:30 of her sportively a athlete to be incredible yeah I think each one has a
Starting point is 00:14:35 proper story, have a proper reality have a own the own
Starting point is 00:14:41 the proper the public I think I think I I think I'm
Starting point is 00:14:46 I'm I always I always I did what I I'm
Starting point is 00:14:51 really I never I never nothing to probably
Starting point is 00:14:57 for me me for that I could be happy with when when I'd get a moment
Starting point is 00:15:04 to say from the place where I'd say that was a champion of so I
Starting point is 00:15:11 think each one has your story and one has your legado Amanda
Starting point is 00:15:15 is a great a inspiration for many athletes for the new
Starting point is 00:15:22 generations of the new generations that are getting and each one has a story,
Starting point is 00:15:29 each one has a your way of your car, I think Amanda I'm really all the respect and have the
Starting point is 00:15:35 respect absolute. It's about the other contrary, he didn't have a reinado long as
Starting point is 00:15:40 Amanda had, but he was he turned a star, how is to you know, a girl
Starting point is 00:15:44 who entered so young in the FCC are trying to get these numbers
Starting point is 00:15:49 these numbers and this numbers of Brazil? It's gratificant to be a man
Starting point is 00:15:54 like Charles, who is dedicated, that is persistent, and, and he believes in the same more than any one,
Starting point is 00:16:03 he can't in some he has great trainers, he's a macacco, who is a great
Starting point is 00:16:08 trainer, and he came in a school that, I'm a suspect to say,
Starting point is 00:16:14 in relation to the lotators, it's a school that no exists,
Starting point is 00:16:20 it, it, it's absolute in engarra, in determination, in force of the vote, the box is a
Starting point is 00:16:30 school that has that's a, that's, and the Charles tries this with him, so, so,
Starting point is 00:16:36 in the torsida for he's always, it's a man, a guy, a man, a guy who,
Starting point is 00:16:43 nobody was a person, that the proper FCC not had, and he came showing the why
Starting point is 00:16:50 he's there, first, that he catived the public, of a public, in a way that
Starting point is 00:16:54 nobody was a so he he merits all our respect and the Brazil has to
Starting point is 00:17:01 get to Charles, because he is a guy that he is a good, and we
Starting point is 00:17:09 have to respect to this, we have to start, doing more support to him,
Starting point is 00:17:14 for he can go and to be there and he can't get to
Starting point is 00:17:19 talk. Now we're going to this victory about the first of the pastos of the two champions
Starting point is 00:17:24 of the champion on the other other side of I'm very thank you my way
Starting point is 00:17:35 very much my time thank you know the time what you do the ballance what you do you do you
Starting point is 00:17:42 what you're what you're you're that's you're in the form that the charles could first
Starting point is 00:17:48 first figure a first of the impetus on the first round you guys you thought the
Starting point is 00:17:53 that you thought that the Darius would be under more more than He was going to do more of the time.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He was done with him he was going to be he was going to he was over he was in my opinion the top five because I always say this
Starting point is 00:18:07 yeah I think each one has characteristics separated there yeah he's really explosive the rendiment of
Starting point is 00:18:11 his rendiment of he can't a lot of a fiat has a great he has a the guy has a and the
Starting point is 00:18:20 Dariotche is a good in all he has a good wrestling so it's a a good wrestling so it's a But thank you very
Starting point is 00:18:27 God, Chalice, trained very, Chalice was very focused. Yeah, even a lesonzoin, boba that took him from that that's really, he did he
Starting point is 00:18:36 took 10 days in doing nothing, to train at zero to recuperate 100% so, so so, so, man, confident in a
Starting point is 00:18:42 victory, we're sure, we're sure, we're sure, we're trying, to do you get a result of but,
Starting point is 00:18:48 but, it really was a manner barceladora, thank you, the most, the matter of Dariush,
Starting point is 00:18:53 not a little. Something you surprised? You expected that Darius would be to the guard
Starting point is 00:18:59 of Charles like he was in the first round he had various opportunities to get the challenge,
Starting point is 00:19:04 but decided he would to go out to the position on the position on the same you'd
Starting point is 00:19:09 be able to have a show very good, we know, I thought I thought the strategy
Starting point is 00:19:15 the Darius really was the strategy of Darius really would be my opinion Darius would
Starting point is 00:19:20 not part to the knockout to the he would try to try and try to really to
Starting point is 00:19:25 the foot and I think he would be up up up in the question, I believe
Starting point is 00:19:31 I would think he would try to try to not even on the ground or in the
Starting point is 00:19:34 ground, because the chalis has a power of a whole of all of
Starting point is 00:19:38 all the clasas a fangor a fang caught, the gaited came up so that's
Starting point is 00:19:44 my idea but the charles really was really really was really he was
Starting point is 00:19:48 he was very well so that he was he was so he was going to
Starting point is 00:19:51 the the Alps, and all the hour that he manda, he mandava, he mandaugh he made in the time, so, no, I don't me surprendel, no, I believe that the Chandra,
Starting point is 00:19:59 Gildarhus, would be doing with him. How is the time, you, as a trainer, going to this battle, because it was a moment
Starting point is 00:20:07 of a very important, crucial, so, Chris, was, was, to get, to put,
Starting point is 00:20:12 to playte, a, know, to get to a situation a situation very complicated, two,
Starting point is 00:20:18 two derotas, in a category that is one of the most of the FEC, you had this piece that that's the
Starting point is 00:20:27 thing, it's a need to be, this is a lot, it's a lot of this is perfect, and we have been going to chat,
Starting point is 00:20:35 in reality, the most important, he was very very happy. He was getting in the train,
Starting point is 00:20:40 and coming the training, doing Rizate, it's ancius to do you, so, the Chanchelby said,
Starting point is 00:20:46 what you're I thought it was going to be in Canada. I remember that when I assumed I applied to Charles, we talked to, he said, he said, let him,
Starting point is 00:20:55 let me do you, he said, oh, no, I don't look. I said, I said, no,
Starting point is 00:21:00 I'm going to be sure, no, Canada, you never will be able to , because we've asked, we did a lot, because we did you
Starting point is 00:21:05 need a little, after the reason, that we're going to say, he said, so, I'm going to say, I said,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I said, say, and I'm saying, the day, D.A. D.A. . But I think,
Starting point is 00:21:17 it will be good, that is more an more obstacle that I'm going to pass for us to and I'm going really sure
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'm really really sure you he obviously said in tone of a bit but there I don't want to go back
Starting point is 00:21:28 because there were four the door was a was a yeah it was a but it
Starting point is 00:21:35 was a it was a no, I'm a couple that came more a maldition
Starting point is 00:21:40 yeah with certain with the world we're the we're the we're playing we're
Starting point is 00:21:45 we're in Brazil it was it was it was incredible It was inacreditable the barroo of those
Starting point is 00:21:49 I think it was I don't see a lot people who had so you're in it's like you're in it's a victory a victory in the first round
Starting point is 00:21:58 of night not after the like he always like he wants yeah he wants to do you but for
Starting point is 00:22:03 you know there's some of the there's a chance that not the charles and Marachev car in the
Starting point is 00:22:11 fact is the charles is the first the first if you look the top five the charles is
Starting point is 00:22:15 the first and then four The Charles gained those four in a manner absurd. Not was he
Starting point is 00:22:21 passed Rasputt for one he gained those four in a lot of so he goes there's no there's no
Starting point is 00:22:27 no other there's no there's been a lot of a vassaladoer so I think not even in question
Starting point is 00:22:33 to care I think it is a reason theoretically talking is it's it with
Starting point is 00:22:40 a lot but I'm would be some would be some I just say I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:46 is that you I've asked I just thought I've been but I'm never thinking but I'm maybe a lot
Starting point is 00:22:50 the poria for example he's he's out of the signor opened the time when he went to
Starting point is 00:22:57 the ring he went to the ringerger because I'm talking about because I saw this now
Starting point is 00:23:02 he said he said he he said he's not very enthusiastic in Sanamok Chandler I don't
Starting point is 00:23:07 see you see you know he said he said he said he he said he he got that he
Starting point is 00:23:16 do you know, do a lucho in 7-7, 000, guaranteeing the centuron for the beginning of the year for the year, because we know that this year will be Fight Night,
Starting point is 00:23:23 but in the beginning of the year in Brazil, it's a signetual in Brazil. He merce a a centuron of here.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So, man, the Charles went to with the Mackachev. So, because the Wackett Warnes of the Brazil?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Ah, but not can't to be able to be able to get to this signoron there and we'll go and we
Starting point is 00:23:40 go and go to know, I The priority number one is the Lotho with Mahathev, even being Abu Dhab. It's a centurion. It's a tantaluanianne. So, there's no way to say.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It's not going to say. The only thing is he was to be in Brazil. I think he merits this for everything he has in the M.MA. I'm going to say to Brazil. I'm going to sayles, today, he moves multiddoins. We're in Canada,
Starting point is 00:24:07 and that he didnows practically. You know, in the fight week? When the past, he pared, fight week. After the Luzumagel, we went to shop, he pared by the Boudab. All the world that was there,
Starting point is 00:24:17 he was in the States, in the week of January, he pared the shop in the wheel. So he merits. He's not in Brazil. You want the centurral? Seney Abu Dhab is, it's an impeccil?
Starting point is 00:24:30 It's a thing, you said, Poh, you said, you'd like, I'd like, I'd have committed this with Charles yesterday. The most of the worst
Starting point is 00:24:37 the F.C. committed, was not having put the Chars as a champion to do Brazil. the starra that he's
Starting point is 00:24:45 a story that was it was made for the thing it's not like oh
Starting point is 00:24:48 Charles it's they're business and they're and they're and they're and they're
Starting point is 00:24:52 and they're but you're you're in fat in Marachev in a boud
Starting point is 00:25:00 or you don't know or you'd try you'd try a man
Starting point is 00:25:03 to try to yeah we're yeah because I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:25:07 I don't I'm I'm just so simple so many negotiations So, no depends just of the FEC, no depends on the FACC, no, depends on the
Starting point is 00:25:15 only depends on the Charsespe. So, it's difficult we're talking about this, because really, we don't sit on again, so, then there's much in the game. So, it's, so,
Starting point is 00:25:25 the point in Montemot, do you want to be able to be? No, we don't want to be not going to be A Budab, I don't see, let's see, what will be be conversed,
Starting point is 00:25:33 you know? So, so, so, so, so, so, so, but, so, but, let's sit, we'll see, , let's see,
Starting point is 00:25:38 let's see, , let's see, Let's see what we can't do. For the certainty. And being a Rachev, of the new,
Starting point is 00:25:44 what were the lessons that were the first lot? Man, the fact, I know that for who's
Starting point is 00:25:52 it's difficult. So, not are the Chalries there. I know, how so, how so,
Starting point is 00:25:58 he not was a legal, he not was good, he not were bad, and not happened to
Starting point is 00:26:03 talk about, because I think it's very bad, when you're when you're that's, unfortunately, there's many people who don't wince in a battle
Starting point is 00:26:11 and then it's side of her inventing many of the coups. So, man, it was the day of the day of Chatshav. Parabins to him. You know? Now, now in this Lutta, we've proved that the Chalys is the same of always, and now we're not going to talk to Maka J.N.O. And it's so, you know, so, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:26 So, you know, so, I don't know what I'm talking about that that we're always studs, we're always, we always do a game for our adversaries. So, no, we're not even that, we didn't we can't do our game
Starting point is 00:26:36 and the whole we're going to do that we're doing it's a way to make sure but not it was because the macachev was a step
Starting point is 00:26:42 a step because it's because you know, you know, you see there like, you know, the gate there,
Starting point is 00:26:51 we know that the shooting at the point of the point of you see, the chance we're just trying that's still
Starting point is 00:26:58 the only we'd like that he'd try that we're we'd be able to not so this we're about about about
Starting point is 00:27:03 about about about about 10 things But not that the Charles does always the same thing when the rest of the If you were he looked
Starting point is 00:27:08 in a way to the Chandra of the other with the other with the gait you know so the way that we got
Starting point is 00:27:14 to the contrary that we talked with a contrail and talked to him, but not said the Macchia and he called
Starting point is 00:27:19 the chalels I'm not I'm sure but it's a minute but sure sures not but it's
Starting point is 00:27:26 not a chance to give us talking about what we're going to go back we're going to go back to the carli
Starting point is 00:27:32 always always comes this lot he says who never assist you, and never will be
Starting point is 00:27:34 you, you're going to you're you're going to you're going to see, I'm seeing, so,
Starting point is 00:27:40 you know, so, so, so, it's really, it's the not it's not made it,
Starting point is 00:27:45 that we've done, not was made, that he's doing it, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:27:51 so, I'm, so, we're, we're just just had to the jab, in the lute, he'd
Starting point is 00:27:55 do you, didn't, it, not it, it didn't, we're, we're going, we're,
Starting point is 00:27:59 we're going, because not was made this strategy. You know, and, and thanks a God I believe to say the strategy
Starting point is 00:28:05 is being very good very good. You know, it's very clear that we don't know I'm going to
Starting point is 00:28:10 Mcacheve, okay. McHachev, is sinister. But, unfortunately, the Charis not was in a day
Starting point is 00:28:14 legal. And the Charles doing what you planes for Mahashev, how is he can get him?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Rapace, it's complicated because it's no-caut it's a interesting, it's a pro,
Starting point is 00:28:29 my charles, but I'm starts in-pe. And we always have been with much planed to the part in-pe. And when I go ahead and roll-in-roland. If you were to see, car, the Shander
Starting point is 00:28:39 went to back up to-bache-all. The Chalice, it was that Chalice could have, yeah, had been made up a proclamation. Yeah, the pointeer and gate, we could get a franchise, it was the same
Starting point is 00:28:50 thing, had, you know, got the... Peked those costs, there, yeah? Bego the costas, but there, we went to a porrada.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So, so, the Charles is very He's not very He's attacking very well So, so for that I sincerely I always think I'm
Starting point is 00:29:02 never really nocout But when they get on the show it's just a finalization The Papagora is on Norma
Starting point is 00:29:08 on Mom Sobue she's in post-unitory of Amanda Nunes and the possible Feasupon
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Starting point is 00:30:19 a lot of the presentory of Amanda Nunes, and that affects directly the future, because, Goudna White, about about the possibility he's not cravore, but it's
Starting point is 00:30:34 very probable that they end up the category of the Pesopena that's the your division and
Starting point is 00:30:40 how you see the first the first the first the first the first the possibility that the
Starting point is 00:30:46 Dan White opened it. Not me picked to surprise because we
Starting point is 00:30:51 had said this possibility and I was very questionated of why I
Starting point is 00:30:58 had accepted the Chelsea. And it's a not an athlete rankied, not a athlete with a great story for the FCC,
Starting point is 00:31:05 no, but what was the reason? Theoretically, the promise was to look to the Carol Rosa
Starting point is 00:31:13 and then and then go to the Carol and I'm trying to me get to me
Starting point is 00:31:19 get to the organization was very difficult to the cat was very very difficult
Starting point is 00:31:25 even so, so I want to was a top 10, and thence in a top 10, you go to the title of the NBA. This was the idea,
Starting point is 00:31:34 the idea, first, the proper Renel Danio, or Renan Dan, he not accepted. Tentar other athletes grandes, and nobody didn't, and then came the Carol Rosa.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So we had this programation with the UFC, that passing by Amanda would be the Carol, passing by Carol, it would be Amanda. And then,
Starting point is 00:31:52 what happened? When it was the fight against the war, we went to the week, and the response was,
Starting point is 00:31:58 I have a Chelsea in 6.5 for you to you don't I'd have you never I'd never this was the response and then it was what I mean
Starting point is 00:32:09 said it was no no way they don't see they don't ask the inter-converses of mick and the alex they don't believe that
Starting point is 00:32:17 Amanda will continue they believe they're a good chance of her or at least to be for a
Starting point is 00:32:21 past her for a cause of her her daughter she'd she'd probably not this year
Starting point is 00:32:26 more this this answer that they they're. And then I said, car, I don't I'm going to wait. I need to work. So, go,
Starting point is 00:32:33 we'll set out of and we'll do do the job. So, not was something me spanted. But, obviously,
Starting point is 00:32:40 something that me really, because I was there was there, I would be now the
Starting point is 00:32:45 athlete, so would be the top contend, to be to dispute the title with Amanda.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But she preferial to postant before. I'm having the cancassas of Amanda also it's not
Starting point is 00:32:57 it's just just a guy a guy he's a man a child it's not not the same thing you're
Starting point is 00:33:03 a person she's not she's getting a camp ruin and getting to a game if she
Starting point is 00:33:11 if she traininging the form that she was training she could be to other
Starting point is 00:33:15 other athletes also not not so not so not so I particularly not actually
Starting point is 00:33:21 don't actually I'm Julia Pania a one a but she
Starting point is 00:33:26 she was she had to she went to she went to a camp do you know, to do you know to get to
Starting point is 00:33:32 get to herne Aldania so I think it's just she's a really, that's the reality and it's a
Starting point is 00:33:38 big-upak and what will happen she will go and she will end up the choice of her
Starting point is 00:33:43 but I think she she also she didn't she didn't defend the six and she was
Starting point is 00:33:49 she was she was she was abundable she had fundable she found the division with her
Starting point is 00:33:54 So, what is the risk of to dispute a title of 6-6 and to lose, the division not would ender because there someone to defend the title.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So I think that she had thought that perhaps to end up the division to the career there. That's a
Starting point is 00:34:10 bit of go-eastern of her like, she's a little. She said, she said, she said, she,
Starting point is 00:34:16 that, she, nobody to be the front of because she has been car, no exists
Starting point is 00:34:21 this. Entente? She's not She's, I'm not interested. She can't have gained as others. In me, she's a reality. So, then, there's this. Who gets to get the centurion, that's a
Starting point is 00:34:33 one-a-one, with her. So, no-adianta, she'll say, ah, nobody's going to be the champion back to the front, go. If you want to say, you're in here, and you come in the centurion, but the life will continue. No, me. Me, maybe, probably not,
Starting point is 00:34:45 because they're really going to really finalize. But in the mea, the one, the champion is who is who the champion is he's got to the sturtle. You have some sort of. the category FIC, in the M.A. I'm very
Starting point is 00:34:56 little. First, because I had, when my contract ended up, no, the Lutte
Starting point is 00:35:03 against Daniel, Woffes, I had more a lot of a contract, and was in there, no,
Starting point is 00:35:09 have done, not have, sent to get to get to get to the weight, I went
Starting point is 00:35:13 to get to get to get to get to a top 10 and one, nobody,
Starting point is 00:35:16 and then I was rolling, and demurana, I went to be able to be able to paycee there also, I said, car, or you
Starting point is 00:35:23 have seen, or if you're gonna a lot, or of me liberate, because I'm going to look at, no, we're going to renewing your contract, a space of mutas,
Starting point is 00:35:34 in a division of six and a, because we have plans for you. No, 6, 6. So I was with this
Starting point is 00:35:39 experience, but I think that in that the moment of the negotiation, the UFC was believed that Amanda
Starting point is 00:35:43 would be because she had said, that she'd that would she said that would be the title of mehemi,
Starting point is 00:35:50 but one this. So I think with the end of the Amanda, I don't, maybe the
Starting point is 00:35:56 Germani going on the final of the year, but I think the UFC doesn't know that the
Starting point is 00:36:01 division, that he was created for Crisiborne. There's not any rank, after these
Starting point is 00:36:06 years, not there's not even not even didn't even maybe, maybe, maybe
Starting point is 00:36:10 maybe he's maybe did it. They were a man, but they're done the did you
Starting point is 00:36:15 It's your also, then I think it was the great failure. And other thing is
Starting point is 00:36:19 a chate in the one, that's not quite the one of the first of the other
Starting point is 00:36:24 so the not the time. This is reality. Deveny have been pressure
Starting point is 00:36:28 not it, it's so it got a lot of people, with a
Starting point is 00:36:34 difficulty with a problem, but it was getting having a advantage
Starting point is 00:36:37 about the other who were menores, it was so so now so now
Starting point is 00:36:41 this the UFC created the division of the that this boy
Starting point is 00:36:46 with the organization so there's a mal-star with the division and I don't see really even the entire process
Starting point is 00:36:54 was brought the invicta in the division of 6-6 I don't understand because contract a athlete that you
Starting point is 00:37:01 not will do you know the athlete in where she's not looking the UFC and not you don't do
Starting point is 00:37:06 it's so that it's not me pick the surprise I just I was prevening this year we're prevenciing
Starting point is 00:37:13 dece the my my peso in this time I mantis I'm doing
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm going I'm going to let me more than this because the idea is if the
Starting point is 00:37:25 the next the division continue to but if the next one I'm going to
Starting point is 00:37:30 I'm going to try to get to get to get to I'm going to do you
Starting point is 00:37:34 do this I'm a rankia come in a runke come in see a where
Starting point is 00:37:39 when the women of the I'm so me I'm I'm not trying to to be in the world,
Starting point is 00:37:43 and not get my moment never, because there's an investment. So, for me, the advantage that I have to be
Starting point is 00:37:50 doing three, four luts in three years per year, pressoning a LFC at each other to have an other, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:59 and you get in that kind of, po, who, who can be a, you know, can be a, a, you know, can be a lot of,
Starting point is 00:38:05 you can be a lot of, you know, a lot of, you know, you don't have a segment, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:09 and it's, me prejudic, much, also, not, it's not good for me. So, if you're to be a title with Amanda,
Starting point is 00:38:15 just in the final of the year, I'm not, I'm not, I'm disanimated that division. That's in reality. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And it's quite improbable that they pass a disposition to turn a vaga, you counter other other person,
Starting point is 00:38:27 this fight to Chelsea now is the ultimate your in Peasupena after this will be
Starting point is 00:38:31 in Pes of no Pes-Galo. Yes, I believe that's the ultimate the last of the
Starting point is 00:38:35 person. And where you think that you enter in the because you just
Starting point is 00:38:42 you would have you would have a lot to not a lot of your career and it was a matter of the year,
Starting point is 00:38:47 it was forced to get a after the number of you are in the ranking of the second-gallo you're 10th
Starting point is 00:38:54 to the person to be a thing that not the decision, this thing ranking, exactly for not
Starting point is 00:38:59 for not exactly for not not because you are getting of everyone in the person but
Starting point is 00:39:03 no pen pen but you can't be a rank where you're going to this lot to Chelsea
Starting point is 00:39:08 you're you're in 13th today, let's get some positions there's, you think you're going to
Starting point is 00:39:13 come in a third in ranking, or you enter in advantage for for a vir to various victories,
Starting point is 00:39:20 maybe enter in the Pesugal, and you're just one to get to do this maloquisition of the biguces of
Starting point is 00:39:26 divisions there? I enter I'm just disputing with top five. This I know, because he's never
Starting point is 00:39:32 didn't want to give the first, the first time that was the first time was casted, that I
Starting point is 00:39:37 and she had been conversing on the internet and decided like, if you want to look, she can't, she can't go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, we want to the metemakers to see if they're casabomable a lot. And the response that the UFC me was, no, she didn't
Starting point is 00:39:51 not know what I want to look at, we want to be someone who's queued. I said, I'm going to, manned someone and then they tried, yeah, Irene is Dania, that's, which is a fourth of the country, when it was, when it was, when it came to
Starting point is 00:40:03 the battle between Daniel and and she, and she, the Semanae, the Semanae of the negotiation, she was two, in the mea-mea-neigh, because she didn't bathe the back to the media-three. So, we had to do that the title shot for the cintraum of
Starting point is 00:40:18 the 6-6. She said that no 6-6, she said that we'll try to go, so, we'll try to come to me-mea-mah, the Holy-Hon said that not lute with mea-meree the Holy-Haw-Wil
Starting point is 00:40:29 I said, then, all-well-then, we'll do-be, we'll doce, to do do the time to do the I'm doing
Starting point is 00:40:37 70, and off and the Alex trying to Lutz trying to castes, the Mick
Starting point is 00:40:46 trying to get to manned I'm manned by fulano manned manned not fulno
Starting point is 00:40:52 no fulno no quack so I'm so like I'm pretty I'm not I'm not I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:40:57 have a middle of me and you're going to come back with me I've got in 32, I'm not so new. And then it was
Starting point is 00:41:05 where they pressonar there's imagineing, I'm I said, I said, Alice, you're going to
Starting point is 00:41:11 see a Carol Rosa because she she's top nine and she she's a Brazilian, the Brazilian
Starting point is 00:41:16 always accept, the people, I'm saying, I'm going to get a carol and then when the father she said,
Starting point is 00:41:22 she said, she said it was a friend, she said, and I'm so I'm saying, so,
Starting point is 00:41:26 so I think, so, so, so I think, so, so, passing by Chelsea,
Starting point is 00:41:31 I know, with a cobranza to to be a chance to a dominoed. Not only only I'm a cobrance that really
Starting point is 00:41:37 I have to do you know because she really not in my level. So I need to a way a way very
Starting point is 00:41:43 superior. It's reality. There's this cobrances if I want to get to the top five of the
Starting point is 00:41:49 one. I know this. So I will need to pass by Chelsea and I need a time that I
Starting point is 00:41:57 get to get the weight the time, then they will me go to me back to
Starting point is 00:42:01 I know of this, but I need this way to have this way to the and you know,
Starting point is 00:42:07 how this victory, we're going to get a really nocout, we're going to we've worked
Starting point is 00:42:13 we've worked because I have a power for the workout but at sometimes I'm exited
Starting point is 00:42:18 in the lot of not being to try to get to form more
Starting point is 00:42:22 more possible and I'm sometimes I'm trying a little
Starting point is 00:42:25 the whole the so we did it so camp in
Starting point is 00:42:30 and I brought men's great and force to train to train with to train with a woman that's a
Starting point is 00:42:37 little bit so I'm going to do this job with a woman that's being very different the intensity
Starting point is 00:42:43 is different of a woman more cadenciated and jogga sometimes a more intelligent and a more emotional
Starting point is 00:42:51 jogga much in emotional so I need to bring this top feminine to my camp
Starting point is 00:42:57 and then me helping so I brought three athletes, one just came to
Starting point is 00:43:01 get to work, even, it's been so incredible to train with them, it's being a energy
Starting point is 00:43:05 good, the men's and to this mindset to put a the job on the October,
Starting point is 00:43:13 to do you know, do you do that really, we need to get to make a
Starting point is 00:43:19 so forth. Mariel thank much for the actualization Tomara that's come to
Starting point is 00:43:24 the fact a top five that after after after this baguance, they're
Starting point is 00:43:29 making you to see, then you're going to get to get a time, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:43:33 the Amanda not there no, but at no, it's a decision now,
Starting point is 00:43:37 now, if the fact, they're going to have a way, you know, my
Starting point is 00:43:42 major fear, I was a lot of Amanda, I was trying to
Starting point is 00:43:47 she, because I had to she'd to be to come to and I
Starting point is 00:43:50 -in- and without her and not, but I was more
Starting point is 00:43:55 anxious for interview after the after the because she's going to
Starting point is 00:43:59 by the Nel Dane they're going to presson her to defend the so
Starting point is 00:44:03 so I'm so I'm like that Amanda she's she's she she doesn't
Starting point is 00:44:10 she doesn't she she she doesn't she she does that she she knows she
Starting point is 00:44:16 she's she so I'm so I'm so I say and then she she she she
Starting point is 00:44:20 she's she's she not respond nothing she she has this act of not
Starting point is 00:44:24 respond nothing at the hour, to conversar, we'll say, oh, we'll see, we'll sit, not we'll have, we'll start
Starting point is 00:44:30 a time, the time of fairies would be rebent to get in a sturon a terino, so it would be more difficult.
Starting point is 00:44:39 She's deciding, now the ball to talk of C. They decide. If they want, if they want, I with I with
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'm with Irene Aldan in Merea, Botea, I'm with the German Randami who's going to get
Starting point is 00:44:52 in December of the ball, for the first champion of the penans, So if they have interest,
Starting point is 00:44:58 we'll be here. If they're not any of the we're going to have been prepared to go to go to work,
Starting point is 00:45:03 so we're going to continue the job and they're going to be able to ask you, I've said, we've been a
Starting point is 00:45:11 day 15 of July, we have a we have a question, we have a question, and we need
Starting point is 00:45:16 and I think that's the F.C. Decista after this last time of the question to the time
Starting point is 00:45:23 to be the year, more one way, to defend the division, but working to
Starting point is 00:45:30 do the show there's the that I want to do because then I'm doing a show there,
Starting point is 00:45:36 maybe we can't maybe we're a top five of the back or even a defense
Starting point is 00:45:41 of the top of the other side of the other side of the same after Jalian Wadison, in the FC
Starting point is 00:45:53 emballated in three victories, the ultimate finalization. How is the expectative for
Starting point is 00:45:59 for more an one, more an new another a great fight for
Starting point is 00:46:03 against a against the organization is a lot of the organization, is one of the expectations for more
Starting point is 00:46:11 this great lot of this great lot of the expectations are great very trained a lot of I and my
Starting point is 00:46:19 team we all do very well we all do in the same synchronia so we're
Starting point is 00:46:26 we're very impugated. It's we're excited and I think it's been perfect
Starting point is 00:46:33 yeah. You know, like I said, I'm going to finalization about Jessica Panning,
Starting point is 00:46:38 who is a athlete also a really rodeata in the organization and now and now
Starting point is 00:46:43 she'll know, that finalized the two last, that she also did a
Starting point is 00:46:50 lot of grappling and finalized nobody than Rose in Mayunas yeah
Starting point is 00:46:53 so it's very experienced, especially in this part of the chowl that you're are this style of the l-in-counter? You think it's that you're going to be more of a duel of grapene, or you think exactly for this
Starting point is 00:47:06 your arm of her, it's better to explore the trocaation? Look, I think that as well, it's the speciality of her, I think she'll want to put a lot to show, but in the last lotas that I've seen, the instinctive of her
Starting point is 00:47:22 is to bring the lute to show independent of what happens in so I I trained I'm waiting that she's trying to try to
Starting point is 00:47:30 bring the lot to the chown so I procured to train in the game of
Starting point is 00:47:36 her but I'm very confiante she she comes various finalizations there
Starting point is 00:47:41 but I also I'm the jujitsu I'm the lot of the
Starting point is 00:47:45 lot of judo so I'm also I'm very confident in my part
Starting point is 00:47:49 of my time I'm I'm done to objectives is to try to master all the techniques of the MMA be a lot of
Starting point is 00:47:59 a lot of total complete, not just as a problem in path, because the lot comes in the path and it's it
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think the lot will be great, I think she's an opponent very dural, like you said, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:13 I've done you know, I don't see it also finalizing or having a performance very high
Starting point is 00:48:21 with someone experienced in Jiu-Gitio So I think that this will be the first for her too, for she's
Starting point is 00:48:27 a first time a lot of a lot of really a lot good and I think I think the I think the guy will go back
Starting point is 00:48:34 when you look at this is a thing that's a thing that's something that's you can't see this really in the attention to
Starting point is 00:48:46 the grapling or you think it's I'm a lot of a lot of a grappling but really as you you said
Starting point is 00:48:53 it's totally different the the luther not came in- but not it's
Starting point is 00:48:59 with a stand of a meeting and there no time it's totally different but with
Starting point is 00:49:07 certainly I trained in-sime to see and I'm also I'm in the techna
Starting point is 00:49:11 that she did in the we studied it in complete in all the
Starting point is 00:49:16 aspects so we're all we're all she's she's she's she's
Starting point is 00:49:21 but there's a lot of time you know, you have this this goschino of special of, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:49:28 get her and get to get for finalization will be better exactly the finalization of the UFC? Yes, with a
Starting point is 00:49:35 certain, so each each other is different we never know, it could happen to come in
Starting point is 00:49:39 a minute but it's, it's, it would be a marvellous if I could
Starting point is 00:49:45 finalize the finalization to end of three finalizations where
Starting point is 00:49:51 you think that this that this that's a lot you put in in other category when it's
Starting point is 00:49:57 four fioro that was in the Pesomosca and now this is established in the Pesopalian that's the
Starting point is 00:50:03 organization the your division of the fact the you think you go with this
Starting point is 00:50:08 victory about Gienn Robbers in terms of rank so of the hype in the FC
Starting point is 00:50:13 as well I said the era the era of baby shark just just
Starting point is 00:50:17 we just are coming and I'm I'm that, after this
Starting point is 00:50:20 luta, I can go up a little more in the rank and we know where I'm
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm going to I don't have to be I'm in the more I'm more when I'm going to work to
Starting point is 00:50:32 get to go to work and for me I don't I don't I think I have a team,
Starting point is 00:50:40 so I think my team is great, I have a great, I have a manager very good,
Starting point is 00:50:45 so I I'm working my team I do my job, they do a job of their and getting
Starting point is 00:50:50 there, we'll see, we'll see, we're going to we're going to we're going. We know, we're just
Starting point is 00:50:55 wincer in this era modern of M.M.A. but I think this, the pegada in the personage and
Starting point is 00:51:02 can also, can help the attention of the people, to have more attention, to create a
Starting point is 00:51:08 hypezine and more to the public, that's a very legal. I'm a lot. I'm a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I feel the guy Oh, my finina, there's a baby shark too, what I love in the lute. I think very beautiful. This me motivates me
Starting point is 00:51:25 really, me inspire a lot more than you. The end up here with the session of this podcast, I'm saying too much, Norma Dumont, Tabatahit,
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