MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Antonio Tabet Brinca: 'Vou Torcer Pro Popó Dar Um KO No Whindersson'

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

Trocação Franca é um podcast de MMA, mas está um pouco diferente nessa semana. Com as atenções voltadas para o duelo entre Whindersson Nunes e Acelino Popó neste domingo no boxe, a gente recebe o humorista Antonio Tabet para falar sobre o confronto entre seu amigo e o ex-campeão mundial e sua paixão por MMA. O veterano Rogério Minotouro, que sai da aposentadoria para lutar boxe no mesmo evento, também bate ponto no programa para relembrar os grandes momentos da carreira e revelar quais atletas gostaria de enfrentar na nobre arte. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca is an MMA podcast, but it’s a little bit different this week. Ahead of Sunday’s exhibition boxing match between YouTube superstar Whindersson Nunes and former boxing world champion Acelino Freitas, we welcome Brazilian comedian Antonio Tabet to discuss his friend’s clash with “Popo” Freitas and his love for MMA. Rogerio Nogueira also stops by to discuss his upcoming boxing bout with fellow UFC veteran Leonardo Guimaraes, look back at his MMA career, and discuss his plans for the future. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Canada Life. Insurance, investments, advice. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Seniors and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil,

Guillermo! Hello, my friend, so, my first episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a your house about MMA in this immense potter sphere.

I'm Gailme Cruz, correspondent of the site American in Mayfiring in the Brazil, and I'm going to return in this quarter Friday in the company

of Lenda Roger and Minotoro that makes the postentator in the end the end up to work in

against Leonardo Leleleco, also veteran of the FC in Bauriariariariu doing the show that will be Williamson

Nunes and Serea Pau as a lot of the lot of we're going to make a

question, with Antonio Tabet, the founder of Pottor the POTO Disimpedididid and My News

but that for the generation when all this here was a Mato, It's the Eterno Kibiloko.

All right, me, me, me. Good. Good, and how you are. I'm sure, I'm a pleasure to have here in the podcast to talk about a lot about a lot of

a question that's about a lot of talking about it. We're going to be in social, you know that you see on in MMA, that's always

always are always watching the UFCs but many of us but many of us how it's how is how you know, how is you

know, how you know how you became, you, it's, it's, pretty,

is, this world in the lot, then this is curious, because many people who know

who know my job, I don't idea that when I was more new, I practiced many arts

martial, my father, my father was a medical, but he also gave a class

of carate. So my father was my first professor. My father me taught me

was the first art partial with which I had a part of the I was in the house, and I

I liked of that I'd like to practice Karate with my father. And then, after those padrown classical of who was a kidnace of the early of the 80, me put on a class of judo. So it was the first

art, Marcel, that I practiced in group, collectively, after to do do with my father, I started to practice judo. and I did and years and years of judo but never I never kissed

and I also I'm going to practice judo, then more I went to Muay Thai that was

the modern with the many times with the films the Grand Dragon Brank and then

I grew I'm going to go to Muay I'm going to Muayai I'm going to my Thai and

my first art martial practicated conscientently without for an influence of my life,

of a mother, or of the cinema Hollywoodian, was the Crave Maga. I practiced Krav-Magah

during many years with a master Kobe, here in New New New New New New New New and then

I'm just time and then you need to you need, or you will be a professional of this or

you will go to see the probably I've got to be to practice but

but I love much, much, much, of art martial. And then

when I had my first contact with the FC, then I I've made,

that I'm badgoos for having been trained karate, Muay, Kravamaga, in the

fact, for I don't think you've had been a impact very great when you've

the first the Jiu-Gitzo dominating that form, because you when you said, you had trained

the Karate, Maitai and some Lutas in the kind of maybe created that

kind of created the Bruce Lee, in television, of that these arts would be the arts were the world, and when

came the voice Grace, the form physical, a guy magrino, taking the guys grandons of the Burefc and vancing,

that's being in that form dominant, the impact was was a more, for you know, I've done.

I confess that no. The impact was enormous in the same, because so, poor people

know, but I was the first person to assist a fita of the FIC in Brazil. Because the

Fita the FIT when I when I I'm literally that's a fita

like a VHS yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm I was

I'm I'm I'm was a job and I I'm a

a sector that was that was the side of a

area called a question and acquisition of this area was a area that was a

area that and go and go after new formats to eventually to buy them to be exhibited in the canals

Globosate. So I could buy a series to be exhibited in the GNT in that era or a campionato

to ski to be exhibited on sport TV and I was very good friends and when

the demand of their demand of the time I was made to goptated to help us in this

this field in this filter in this penera of formates and then it was when

it was when it came in my hand the Fita the FITA and I became encarrated

to see the FITA and when I saw that I was absolutely enchantated in factisado

for that because it was a real was a transformation of a video game

those games of Lut like Mortal Combat Street Fighter etc was that

was that you were people completely different, of arts martiales completely distinct,

se entreating in a space of an arena to be a thing, it was a thing, it was a thing, this is a

thing, I don't think that's what this happens. And that the UFC, the FC1, the FC2, he still

was a salvage, he was, he was grotesco at some moments. The guy was at

four on the chown, you could to do a deal of a camera there's a

kind of kind of a old old the old the country he's not a lot of the doctor

was going to a lot of a lot of a other without, it was a really do with that you

I was really really really encantable for that and I recommende to the sport

TV the exhibition and the sport TV in the sport TV in the time

I don't want the sport TV said no, this here is sport, for the more of God, this is this is a

lawcura. And then the Lettica Murana, who was the director of the GNT, had a channel

in Portugal. And the GNT in Portugal was different of the Gnit of Brazil. The Gnit of Brazil

was the very not an channel so feminine as it was a one with

a profile more than it was a program journalists, and so. The Gnit

in Portugal was a a little of little of all the show, the sport TV, of all,

and it was to go to work in the night in Portugal and did a bombarding. And then

it's interesting the sport TV that and said, so let me put this thing here. And then

the FC did it did it took the year, it demoral the globe to embark

to the way in the sport, it was very when the FC

came to the global the global Saude, have the right to transmit on

through the combat, but for the TV adetta, never was seen as a fact, a product

commercial, uh, when the UFC came to Brazil, the first a first time with Aneson

Cylva, Minotel, Shogun, a card was spectacular who was the radio and the

Google, agil, as you know, it was something, it was happening, I remember that I remember that

I remember that there I remember that I'm a barra and the RJTV and the

There's nothing happening that the global sport is like, they're going to they're going to talk to a campanate pink and more not say, more not say,

no, the UFC, that was the product in that the show show, but the success was that moved the guys, they abracar more the sport,

no? Exactly. It was, and it was impossible not to have not to be because it's a modality that

crees, vertiginosamely, that, that not not so angaria the audience more practicants, you see many people doing.

And it is very well very well-structured, it's a much well-structured, it's a lot of box, you know, you see, I always liked to assist Lutas-Box,

but after the O'C, I started to go after I'd like, and I say, and then, what, will, what, will, where this here? It's difficult.

And the event of the box, in the fact, is a lot so, the rest nobody doesn't see,

the card the car and he and he's not in there's only going to see the

the role right. Exactly. This was a second of Dana White,

and we Brazilians still we're a more good want with the

card preliminary that the Americans have in the events of the

United I I just see you also here in

here in Brazil here the card prelimin starts

7. 6 of the And the ultimate lot will be three the morning,

the Brazilians are at the eight and the United not, uh, will be in the States

not, it's all, the guys get on the penulte and that's to do that to do with

what you but it's really do you know, this. Galera really really comes,

and that thing of the Brazilian accompanying sport, yeah, we are much fanist,

it's Brazil against the the rest of the world, we have a way different to encounter

this, but it was impossible the great emissories, the great conglomerators

of communication are in the world, you know, you know, it's a lot of last time, finally we're

going to be the UFC to go to New York, to be sure, that's a thing to all right,

everything all the pandemic, but it's a previs to come, you'll be going to

have the Gover-Theurrae and the norm, too, the norm, too, you as you, you know, you,

you, you're, I'm, I think of all the events here in Rio. As a fan, what you'd like to see

in this event of 7 May? Rapace, it's difficult to think in a lot specific that I would like

to see. I can't talk about the lotters that I would be to see. I see,

for example, all-vive, that knockout spectacular of Edson Barbosa in Rio with that shoot

rodated. And I always since then, I always I'm always I think in the expectation of

that I'm, always that I'm in the expectation of that today, today, today, today, will be there. So I adore to see the

Lutton Barbosa. I also see the Glover Al-Vive, and the Lutas of Glover all-vivo are are, so, because the Glover, he is, and I

don't talk about this in form pejorative, it's very, it's a ogro lot-n, he is the Chirac, literally, in the octogono,

and, like, it's a potency that you see there, and at the same time, a sabedoria to lead with a lot, that I'm

very curious with this lot, because sincerely, I think the Glover not is favorite. Maybe he enter as a

champion and underdog, I don't have certain, of what the bolsies of the posta will do,

but, I'm very curious to see the proper, and I wanted to see the

Aldo, I love I love also also of it's a intention of that's

that's that's the moment that he is passing the silicone in the car before to

enter in the octagon and when he enters in octagon that I think he's fascinating

I want to see also I really see these three so if if you have these

three in the card I'm going to be a card Jose Alton, the Charles of the Bronx, it's very possible that he defends the central in the Lucey and Gates.

It's very probable that this other case. It's been rolling in conversation just, but no one proposts concrete was made to the UFC, but the two are fined. I I committed an equivocal absurd of not to not say to Charles

of Brontz, that put, he is. Caring, what talent, you know, so. It's so, it's right. And, you, and, you you repara that the Charles

of Bronx he not he not an guy exactly great like I think he

not a person that he's a person he not a guy that's a

expert in the sense it's different you hear he talking and you

hear an adesania saying but the Charles of

Bronx he has something is a more than he

He perceives that he has never for that the Jiu-Jitsu and he seems that are the same institution

the impression that does see that's in any in any situation in the Lutta he has

a matrix when the Niel when Niel when he had that was like all you

know all you know all of all right you know you know now you know that you

have that the Charles of Bronx he had absolutely all the arms of Jujitsu at disposition of his own with the arm in the turn zero

of his, he has 57 options of counter-golpe but if the guy did this are 49 and then he always always has a solution it's impressive I think even

he he he seems more repertory than other excellent lulators Brazilian of the M.M.A.

that also are masters absolute of Jiu-Jitsu, but I see that they have a predilection for one or other goal, one or other strategy of the lute. The Charles, don't. The Charles, if the guy

de bobeer, he receives a chave of o'reelion, and the guy doesn't know what happened. A goal that was a-sexual-unterpassed. The Charles took this goalpe of the manga, and the guy not knew that there was this chave of

tendon of Achilles. It impressive. The guy is out of the series really. So it would be there in the main event of the

New Year of January. And who can know, also a champion there's a who said, he said,

he said, the last time, he was the last time, the last month, the third lot in terence, a third lot

spectacular in an event, that was an event that was, a eventas, and he was , also, the Fransenugian,

to Dispired to Danawai, he, had the Michel Perreira, venced the first the first of

the year, and the social that you have this event that's what you surprised was the night was the

question, the Michel Pereo, we're looking the interview the Davidson, after the victory, or the interview the European

of his wrestling Olympic and the jiu-jitsu of Niveh, the Javrox. Rapids, I will tell you, first, I

think with much a very very good of Valide, and if you were listening, I will you say,

not, not, do you know, do you, do something, do you, It's fey-on. It has nothing to be. And I'm talking with you with

a heart-abert, Valid, because I just did this m-you-lawed, because I, I got a M, and I was up in the ball to receive the

premium, I got to get the Flamengo. So, it's not, it's a man, me-caso, not value a pen,

then you can't. So, about the the lot of the guys, I was surprised me surprised me surprised, the first was

the Francis easily, but easily moving the Gany to the in some

I'm sure that the France would be in the like I'm a lot the time the one

I'm able to get a I'm surprised to Dana White then I want to understand why the

Dana White I'm so disperated with a victory to France but but

I'm I'm I'm quite I'm very I'm I'm I detest

the He, for me, is the type of a lotator Imperatrice Leopoldinense, who I call. The Peratrice Leopoldinense had a disfile of a carnival

in New Rio, with the desfiles completely pasteurized, you know, that is that a little time certain,

it's a time certain, that no time certain, that no time different, that he is organized and he does things beautiful. But no,

it's a business different, no, a, a, a, not an, no,

no, no, no, no element that you like, I'm like,

this is different, nothing, and I think a porre lot of so I'm, these lootators,

umperated to me, I'd would be, I'd thank you, I'm a man, Maraville,

you're great, you're strong, you're a technical, but you're chato. Go, go,

go, will, go, will, go, my brother, whatever thing,

but here, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, so,

so, this, other, the, the, The people Amos, this guy

was incredible George San Pierre, I'd watch him to see the those George San Pierre,

you know, it was a little for points, and it was no happen nothing, po,

chato, I'd I'm gonna more, Anderson-Sil I know, I'm

I'm the John Jones, I'm, I want the Amanda Nunnus, I want the

Ciborri, this type of the I think I I'm so that you see and you

say, you say, it's that's that thing different. These lootators that we've talked all right,

the Donald, and the Conor McGregor is spectacular when he gets, when he gets, the brothers the years, it's what does the

difference. It's what does the lotator be a good and gain much the money. The Gann, he can be a

champion and be a 18 years of the way, he will be always be a blue, he's always a loter pastel, no,

will be from that people. The people want a different, whether it's in the time, to

say, the time, So the question that you asked you know, the question you

know, he is a person fantastic, yeah, he's a big, a bigotter the person

with a talk, so he, in the point of the marketing, he is a product

perfect for the FCC, for any pro-motor of sports of combat in MMA he,

he in the box would be a phenomenon but the question is that he was insati

with the question is he was he was He attempted to offer a new contract for him after he gave him he gave him to

Miotit. He refused so that the FCC created a centurl interino three months after the

Sir Gany and Derek Lewis but the Enganu batted the no renavourn the contract that he went

in this battle with a lot with a return to he continues the champion and no

there's more no longer no he's the clause the contract of the

contract of the FC automatically renew extend, to have a period of exclusivity with the

FCC. The team the end of the contract of his contract will be to end up to end up

the contract, he's free. Or he'll renovate with if he wants, if UFC, if he

would be a good money to he'll do that he will be in a lot of borsce

with Tyson Fure that, with a certain, he'd get, or no

10, 15 more than he gained for this lot more, which he $600,000

$1, paper- Vos, these things so, so that's the question, like the Dynamite see was in a

car in a cigarette because he went there and got in a contract without a lot of the UFC, yeah, theoretically,

says the team of Ingano that in the end the end of the novel of the year, that's because the endangor

the ankle, he's got to get to operate, you know, so how long the time that he could be

going to go out of but that so, so this is the great novel of the

person to not, I don't no, I don't nothing, that two, three

years, the UFC create more a centauron interino using the discusing of the shoulder of his

is a very probable but he is a very he's made in a career he's if he's

he's he's now, as he's doing what he did he he's in the next film

of Jack Cass this he can't he's in a movie of Marvel he's he's been

a person of Marvel he you know he's he's not he's exactly exactly

he is a supereroy and excellent lot of the this is a lot of Francis, I adored have seen, I liked very, a lot of Davidson, obviously, I took so much by the Davidson.

And I'll tell you, the impression that I had is that happened, the host of the last last lutherson, I was thinking the last lot, that the Mexicanian had been trained, and

focused, and the Davidson was, more or less. This time, was the contrary. This time, it did you to perceive that the Davidson came with a plan, came focused, trained, and the Mexican

gave a, how he, how he, when he, when he, surprisingly, fast, in my modest opinion,

because it was not a lot to have been done, that he was that the Mexican said, no,

now, now, I'm better than I was in that last time, so I'm going, it's

more fast. And, happened what happened. Now, this fourth the Luta, obviously when the Davidson

said, oh, he'll look, he's not, he, he's not the money, that this Lundra, he's not going to be in the money, that's a lot, he didn't be he, who's going to make. Who, who who said he said, who was the Valid in his there, yeah? Deau the impression, including, that the Valid has had some of Mexico.

Like, I need to go there. You're going to do Lerun? I'm trying to do you're trying to, I'm going to, I'm doing a sonn't, in a, you're I need to buy a tequila,

but I would have really that the vali had had something to do that he's

obviously he's on the money of the final this quarter but I'm I confess

too, I think, I'm I'm a little of such of these trilogias

and in this case no one has been a story, it's past

the terminated I think it's I'm I'm won't, I'm

my mom won't look with a little another and go, because it's

because it's even the guy always is chato there's a time, there's a time that's

a lot of it's a little bit of a real year, but he's a revans do a revans go back,

but no, do a rematch, go back, it's, we're doing a lot of, it's, I'd like,

I'd like, I'd like, yeah, it's, it's a bit massant and you see always always

the same thing, like, I'll see the next Loverson, with this guy,

just, digital, and it's that kind of, this quabro a little the protocol of the spectator of the FC, because,

like, one once conversing with a friend my friend in the States, American, including, he was me asking

on the FC in Brazil, he was absolutely spanted with the way that the the team and the

whole, I said, no, you have been much a with football, it's a culture of

football and coming to the archibanked of the FC and he said why do you think the FC

picked so well like the thing well that's like the kind of kind of primitive

of the human what is what is what is the sport in the MMA

as a sport is that a game of football that is the sport most popular

of the planet the Brazilian is very accustomed to see he

He knows that when the ball is in the middle of the camp, it will be happening nothing. He knows that when the ball is all the lateral, it will be

getting near the air, he will get up, he will get up, it will happen something here. The M.M.A. not have

this. M.MA, the ball is always never, can do something something, that can't do that make a

minute in 10 seconds. So, this climate of tension, very long. This Lutverson, the next

Lerner of if it's the new, the last month the dispute the sturt of the sturt, the

other will start, I'll do something, and I'll go out of the third round to be what

going to be the whole of the whole of the time. I've seen. You're just Twitter during the event,

you know, when I'm getting the time the last you after the doctors are of the media

training. Obviously, I think this is a thing of everyone, there have a rarer exceptions there that

have been a good work in this situation, but what what the Anthony Tabbet, ex-vis

president of the communication of the Flamgo would in the form of the

and the American to do the FACC almost all the first of all

first two first of first you if the guy is professional of M.A and he

independently the education that he had, the formation that he had, the

structure that he had the time to get to an octagon

he needs he needs to learn to he even

even he even that he doesn't that he's necessary

that he he's English, because he's there, he's talking with with people of people of the way,

this will help him in the hour of to get a money, in the order to get a time,

that's important for the that's the first thing. The second is that I know that it is a moment of extravasat

and the kind of and the guy shorre, but there people who people who there's

people who have been between family, friends and the guy there's that's

the chaves of the what you you did? What you thought, I'm first,

I'd say, first I'm a fulana of assay, the fulana of t'all of tapioca,

and the fulan and a not the hour for this, you know, you'll have other moments

more more more than more than that's the moment even, and a mutator who

can't be a lot of that's well, that has good, he's good,

that's that surprise the public that's that moment of the interview, he

will be more great more he will be more desired and he will get more money,

he got got and he got, let's say let him say the last time, the lot is a lot of

difficult, you know, you get to get a ballancated with that he can get a

microphone and defy a other guy he could say, no, it was very me me

me gave in that he could give a question that's an question he can't

be very better, that moment of him the moment of him to be he

can be grato in various other moments of his life of his, but there he needs to a holofort of interest in him in the high-banked, care to know for who he's about whether he's important or if it's not,

for who helped him to be eating or not, the guy just is getting to do it in a collective, which, even, he will be heard, even, he will be heard, even a way more atent about these details. In a collective of the impress, where

are the people who are who who helped him to train, who helped him to be able to to prepare to to call the not there. There is the

hour that he needs to be able to be able to a personality and gain much money to get a lot and when

the reporter Joe Rogan when you want who you want I'm a I'm a officer of FC the UFC, the

UFC is that manned it's nothing that's yeah it's no end of that's it's like

it's being unemned and modest and a good he's just being a he's just Right. Exactly.

There he has to say, I want a fulano, I care you, and I'm a little bit of a interest of the community in terms of that lute. And he will enchering the the rabe of the money. That's the fact.

That's the end of the end of the F.C., but not say that's not been a lot of Lundonan, we're going to front the ex-campioner the World War on a lot of show in Balaurao.

Popo is talking that's going to knockoutia, can't be a show of this lot for quite a little bit to say

to the role he's he will have the courage of the

person to say in the man to see in the man I'm

curious to see and I want to I'm I'm think the Wenderson

can't I'm know I'm I'm some I've some

some years Wenderson is like a maluc training

box all all the days doing three a four

sessions of box every days a much years, training with people

with people professional so he's a guy much more young I'm I'm

I'm I'm live and with Inderson on the little than he

is a guy more more he's probably popo is a phenomenon

is a lot of he's he's he's all put all over everything

can't not to give to you know You can't have certain of this. I don't

go to go to a Poffour. But it's that kind of you take a guy, like,

let's suppose you pick the Fred of Desimpedidus that's he's young and is and are practicing

and training and and jogging with a question, he would get a one-and-one in a

goal-sion of football he, or the vanpeta that was that was a game,

you know, so you're obviously I'm not I'm saying that the Fred is the

In the Inderson and that's the Popo, but it's the type of thing you don't know what's going to happen. Popo is training also. I,

like, I, I, I, I, go to Torser, first I'm to T'Pol to do Popo

to do you Mendoce. I will want to be the Rinderson and disacordando, I will rin much of this.

To end, to come back with this playciadina of the YouTuber with the C, I,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm I'd love, but a part of

me, will see the Winderson lockeying the Popot also, because there

other YouTubers who certainly want to copy this idea of Winderson if he's going to

get uphanna van so I'm hope that continue this moda there's a lot of

great, with the Jake Poe or Lulpoe and so doing this little box and

who can know Winson will be the fagulia that will that fagulia

that will necessarily not see the Kib in the box or in the MMA you who have a base there's a lot of basketball any chance. Zero chance. Just have a chance,

just have a chance of an octagoner against someone. If I'm armed, like a Janada Jones, that would be a sketch of comedy, I enter the octagon

against the octagoner with Anderson-Silva, come after a little time, it's the only chance. But who can know, so, you're confident,

not. You think there the possibility of Wimmonson to make make make a Tyro Moodre would be

that's a good point would be I think there's a chance exists but it's

that you not I'm not I'm not I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm very well he's he's he's he's disposed

he Anderson um he Anderson in this this lot

I'm there imagine imagine Popo if he would be

horrible he'd be he'd be credited. He'd an evidential, Grant to him. For the image he'd he'd for a comedian

YouTuber, right? It's just for we just to just to finish you, one of the

leaders, you know, some of the videos, many videos, many videos, with biggada

and and you have someone that you would be to grab a day that not

roll-old, some some some people of MMA that you look to the person,

I have a idea perfect of a video to but not could be

the chance even. You know, I don't see. I think we think we've got all the

we did we do you know not so with the lotators we did we just with a Juliana we did

videos in octagon of the FCM but I wanted much to do more of the videos of a video

with Dana White the Dana White there in the middle and two actors doing a

one talking to another for another for some I'd would be a video

so And and the lotador, I'd like to do all the other, if the Lutador to send him to say,

porre, I'm sorry, I'd like to do a video to Ports of the phone and I'd say, I'd say, I'm going to say something.

Maneer, mania, mania, car. And for you talk on this event, the event that's a mixture boxing,

my entertainment, will have the participation of Roger Mnotor who will come the first in more of 10 years to

in front of the, also to enteran, Leone, Leleco, who had passed out of the Peney,

but we're It's a pleasure and a mess with you receive here, my my brother. Thank you. Great a brother. Good job. And go in front. From the other side of the line,

we're going to come to back on the road to be able to doves. when I was leo-law, no, leco, in a event different, that's surging there in Brazil. Well, well, very very for your

opportunity to be part of the podcast with you. And, it's different, like you know,

my friend, it's different to fight box, but it's a thing that I've got to do I've got

I've got some of the box amador, and this time, doing a lot of

a lot of professional , not me straight, but just the 45 years,

now, yeah, just a more more serious, but I consider a guy

experienced I like to be up to be up to be very very well a event came very a event

came to know, the event came to entertainment and bringing this concept of great lot of the

YouTubers and finally bringing this this lot of the pop with him which these

guys are trying fap a two years and he was I'm

able to finish this lute and I will be doing doing

part of this show so I'm honrado of to be doing part of this show that's

making this hour in Brazil bringing this concept of YouTubers entertainment show of Wesley

Sapadown Tirulipa will be aventas man, but it's aventas and I'm happy to part of this

Mario there's a year and a year ago you've been what you did you what you convinced

the what you by the people people you've been you've been you've been you

didn't stop you but what you did you what you convinced to cross a luba of the new and do you do you do you know

I'm going to I'm thinking I'm thinking when I went in the last year that I did the last I'm gonna

be like so and then you go you go you're and then when you're on the coffee of the morning

then of the morning all those athletes there and tomming in the morning

oh it all the most the world all the people know the people do

you know say and, for you know, it's it's been very, it's been

different, because you're going to always being the band of the guys new, this is we renewing,

it's a new energy and and I feel felt. And then, when it was now, there was this

opportunity, uh, the M.A really, for me, it's difficult, it's much train,

it's a, much, uh, much, it's different to do, wrestling, Jiuits,

wait, and, but the box for me, I think it will be more more than the part physical I always I'm doing

I'm doing a part aerobic that I'm I took to get to get a carrieed by I'm pedaling for a caram so maintaining a part aerobic

and the part of the box I always am doing a manoppa a school of combat so now I've got to

to be able to to be a story of the Spire that is a more difficult you know to get a question of

the notion of distance again I did some spas I've got I'm doing some of the

fairs there's like in the bayia maybe we're doing in any way in the baranda of

house pao he'd and then doing with him and then do you make you

make you make you make you a opportunity and then it's the mom

he's the mom the producer yeah with with Pamplona

Philip Pamplona they they've they've finished this event

called Popp Winston-Nunds. And he called me to do you know, a call-man event, to be able to pull this

guy of the M.A. to this event. And I accepted. I got the idea. I just had talking with with them a time.

I liked much of the idea. And I, but I'm a guy that will do a lot of a lot of

different. It's a trying to a concept, this story of the show, the show, the show,

the show, of the YouTubers will bring many people from the people who not had a contact with a

box and this a molecada who is fan of Wendson MUNs who is fan of Popol that wants

to be able to get a great opportunity and even know so it's a try to a trocan a lot

great. People of MMA will know a little of YouTube people of

the people will know the world and will be good for all the good for all the

For sure. The last other than box that you made in the PAN of 2007. We even did a matter

for M.M.A. Fighting at the time that when I Gregory would do a lot of

M. Wendorhda you were, you're talking about the camp of MMA for a camp of box,

that you was the pride, when you did this participation in PAN. How

you felt that this difference now, that you were abosent just was more

fast to do this position, do a camp just using a man, if you need to be to be a lot of boxing,

have to be able to rest, in jiu-jitsu, shoot. No, it's different, the quantity of you do in a round of a lot of box is a much

major. So you have to be in distance, you have to be good, the notion of time of the box.

One thing, you go to a man to shoot, jog a mouth to a bottle to a bar back,

or so I'll go the hand to get a little in a lovina enter, the box, a guy has a guard, you have to fintar,

you have to find out, you have to put a second, it's different. It's different. It's not, it's very,

it's very difficult. The first few days in the time of box are, are difficult and you get the rhythm,

the sequence, and accustomer, it's in a rhythm of the the guy of the box, so you have to train with

the people of the people, it's different. But we Katsuma, I've been experienced,

I'm a very time for Suma. It's a realtor, that's a little bit of the REC,

more short, that's your obviously, less a major but it's going to MMA also,

but he's a guy that more of Jiu-Gitzo in MMA. And you, obviously, by your story,

the talent in the box disparate, as a favorite in this lot, the friend is the

organization of the event, you is the great name of the MMA, the part of MMA of the

event in in the event in you know, you see this pressure, this, this, this,

this, the other people who have more experience in the box? Oh, my friend,

I think I'm going for this Luta, I've just I've been I'm a amm-a,

I'm doing a new trajectory in box, I'm coming again, I'm trying to get

this opportunity, but without no the conscience. Of course, with a question,

I don't go to do a lot of a lot of a lot of I'm not going to be able to if you have

conditions of this lot of this lot of a knockout so, the first to end, I'm going to box

go boxier, I'm going to get a certain age I'm going to I'm 45 I'm I'm in

my 46 so, with the I'm of the you can't get a question of the condition of the condition. So it's a lot of, I'm going to have to use all the experience. I'm going to be a lot of the other than I'm going to be a lot of time. I don't know, I'm going to be able to be it. I'm going to be able to use the experience. And this baggage of box that I've got to try the knockout from the beginning to end. I think that's the idea not the pressure

but with I'll try to if I could connect a gop a cop more of the box where I

put a hand more more than I see and the knockout he came not that I'm going to

go to go to talk to I will work all I'm going to if I'm so I'm in these

six rounds that we're in three minutes with the with certain I'm I'm sure

to make to knockoutia as you have you also I felt, Dewe, Deau,

Deau, there was to see, but I'm in your objective in this walk? Is it

do that is a lot, and do it, or is the first of many of

the other other other? It's very difficult you say,

before, like, so, so, I'm, I want to do, if I

could, if I could, if had, I'm conditions, but in the hour, there in the

adrenaline, the, will start, I'm going to see a one and a time, the Leleco

is coming, he's been better at time, he's more more than competing during this one and a year.

With a certain, I'm going to more than he. So, what I'm going to try

to use, the my favor, the experience, to go to go, to try to use the

skivas, trying to use the gropes of encounters, the gropes that I could use. And I'll see, depending on how it's the whole, it's a lot,

with the truth, going to be going to be, with the I want to want, I'd want to be more difficult, it's more,

then I'll try to try to work more, or we'll see if really it's really, it's right,

but, I've got this idea. I go see this idea. I'm going so, people who's who's going to box the Volfo

lot lot was very well, he's going doing the show he's a lot of the Jules, Cesar Chabes

Jr., a lot of a lot of a lot of course, against a cross, and then he got a

short, he took a not, so very very, so he's, he's, doing,

a, a, a, a, a, a, a, kind of,

I'm, I'm, the medit I'm in my age, I'm saying to do

everything, and on the million, the star, brill, the star bling, the carot enter, there's a

matter, and there's a lot of the United, is aquecilled this market, need, to be able to the money,

not, we're talking about, the costation of today, is a great, for who can get in dollar and more

here in the world, you think at this possibility, that, of the good,

doing this event, where, for the people, the Cigano, are all doing these these

these these wars in the United it depends it's like this

event this event F night music show or so an FMS the event

it it came with a great came to he

he he he can try this the good the

great luts great lot so so so it not

he didn't he took long the both the

the fight most the last the last few years and nobody wanted to nobody

didn't want and get to get a family and banked so it's so I'm with a

idea I'm going to go back going to be in Baldeiari Camburio in the family

in my family family of my family of my mother all of my son

with my cooado my parents so all all right so all so it's a good idea

to make a There's all right, there's a lot, Zegas of Brazil, who we know, to do, do it, to do more battles there. But, with, with a possibility of desegesations with this type of event that's happening there's not far. I've, you know, some of the procures,

really romboers, that came, through this event, through the empresaries, also to me procuror to know, to be a interest of box. I've this opportunity now, in the same of the hour, but we don't have to lose this opportunity. And who knows,

now in the future, we'll even more strong, more well-trained, to be made a lot there for, a lot of a lot of the post, against a ex-campion of box,

a ex-companed of an officer, a guy of a baby, right? You'd topar to pick a YouTuber, too, who'd be doing

a pop-pore? Toparia, I think, this is a mulecada for a man who this

guys are not doing the guy's the guy's old old and I think this model is going

there's in Dubai I'm I'm seeing events greats with YouTubers famous

there too so a moleckada a new we have in 45 years have to

considerate also also this question of the question of different you are

different you are a guy of a guy of a person but it also

also also it's a a challenge. It's a disfiel. Not discart this possibility to have a challenge

to live, too, with a guy more than a man more. And I'm a ex-campion of the FEC, a ex-campion of

box, I think, I think it will be a matter that will be able to the result, the form

how I will be ported on the domingal there. If God want, very, to be,

to be able, to try to try do you do more. For certain. We know that the agenda of your is a lot of

there's a man, he's never parrower, he's always going to be able to train the box, he still to get to be able to

think it's a possibility or for him not more, he's just just a post car, I don't know,

he, a sabadown, not, sabadal, not was what, the day, I'm going to passad now,

I'm pasted, car, we were turning in the garage, it was a thing of to-oquin and we said

a porrada I and him I'm a Cappacet Louie of 14 of 11 my son and then

then I said Oh, Diggal he's batting a guy batting a guy, he's a

heavy heavy and who's somebody he's bogg I don't see like the

story of the UFC I think because how he he's working

with the compromises so I think he's a lot professional but

he's past two months training, like I have made in my routine in the last time,

the last time, to be doing the time, two times per day, physical therapy, massage,

so it's more difficult for him, now, he can't because he been working working much in the

UFC, I think the party there's an ambassador of this, but this quantity of compromise,

now even he's there's like in Abu Dhab and, leaving the selection Brazilian there to

start a work here in Brazil, I think the the quantity of

compromises he has I think a little more difficult but he conditions he has with a

bad for a bit more young, manoeoe and the main event of this show that will

have been in Balliare is the Winderson and Popo and, as you know, what

the palpite there? You think the good for Wenderson or maybe the juvenile

there, perhaps the person, the Winoeson can make the difference in who would

put up your engineer in a post it? It's difficult you say, but I think the end's not a man,

he's new, really. It's difficult like to get a guy, he's with a time, he's going to

start all the guy, he's a little more serious, but the Popol

has a lot, he makes some jabes so, he makes a japs, like, it looks a lot,

it's a I've seen the Spies, he's doing a spy with a a man, a professional

the level of champion of the world. He's the spire the father of the police, who is the top and the top of the world. So, yeah, more peser than he. So, Popo, is taking a serious, car. It's a lot of really

really difficult for Inso, if Popo not, if he's trained, I've seen he'd have to be able to train, so I think the Indus, he'll be a little, it's a little more irregular, the guy who comes,

a back-a-cabre, down the bat-cabom, not like the Popo's, but it's used to trainer. So it might be it demore to connect a distance but I think Popol

will be there batting in the same in this variation of the head to cope and it's going to this illness but I'm seeing

I'm trying very very well so it's a man that's a man who is a good I've been I've been

and he's trying and he's not I'm in the three years not without how he he made

of that he did that he will do that he will be able to have been in his training of his mannir and you

you've mentioned about the box that are less disgastant than the training for MMA but start

in a academy to know all the day all the did some some of the yeah with the

no with certain I think there's there's a there's a difficult you're

disconnected of the I'm I'm not I'm not I'm I'm going to I'm a little

but when I go and I have a opportunity to train with a guy, you know, because my life all I'm there's a

more of 20 years I'm there's a little bit there, that's all the day, and every day I'm a

different, it's people of other city, and everyone with a son different so you,

so you get the energy of the little day day, so it's I really when we

go out there and when we go out and feel the climate, it's there's a lot of it's really very interesting because practically it seems like you

don't disapprended, you just pass a time and you go back again and you get well only. But the question of the part physical is a little

more difficult in the first month. It's a cold no cold in the first time to come back to come back to start with

but the first a month, to to return, it's a much more difficult. Yeah, imagine, imagine.

You know, you've made a story very long 20 years in almost 20 years, yeah, boy,

got a lot the Lenda of the sport, yeah, Por, Vos, Overim,

Den Henderson, over it, two years, yeah, he's, the, boy, the,

champions of Tertis, the Rachade. In all these years you've lived, you've

dedicated to the rind, what the moment more more markant when you look to look at back and I think with more

the more of the world of the sport? Yeah, maybe this transition of say, to say, to go to the F.C., I think when I

went to F.C., it was like renovating again, because, like, it's a uncertainty, but Prade was just, and

then a bit of, and then I came there, and I, I, did not, the negotiation, and said, the W.C.,

he took, long, the contract, and I don't didn't, I, you, I don't want to the first

time, because it was a negotiation to to come a contract better, and then what the Rodrigo was in the front, and I

was a little there, I went to the box, it was a great moment there, maybe in my

career, not financially but at level of to, the, to, to,

to, live a experience, so it was a great, experience for me. So,

for me, so, for box, for box only, is, it's, marking my

career, like, even to put to finish with a job of to work, not to

get a career by the box, I think, boy, go, go,

to finish, making a career, making a lot of a lot of than the way,

I'm a thing that did you think you have been different if you had been

to have been to after after you did say to the project you did do the

movies you did you did you did you But what marked was the the fight was the of the African, I think maybe

in this transition, was justly this transition that I did for box, of having to be a lot of South American, I was a champion Brazilian,

had been a prox had been a lot of American, I did some the United, and it marked because I gave much a confidence

if you see you see, the Price, there, more or less of the time, to be looking with Chouououin,

with those guys, I was a lotator, of a sudden I went to the selection of box, and in the UFC, I'd just be ported with a striker, so it was different. The people had to be a little with that man, and I had more combination, I'd know more than more in the league.

So I think all this marked, the form of that I was out of the scene, and I peake experience and I went to other form, I started to have the knockouts, so I was a finalizer, of Jiu-Jit, nother Petschapet Jiu-Git, and then a bit, I'll go into one

of the knockoutia. So, this was good. It was superendent for many people, say, oh, H, uh, try with him, that the guy,

aghara, the guy, the guy, Pach-Pretta-Pretta- good. De-repeach, now, not, he,

he's, the strike of him is very good. So, I, I'm, strategicallyically, to,

so, so, this, I think, it, I think, mark, maybe, it's different,

few people can't do this. Moder the game. Maybe you go to be a big Dick Diaz

maybe, did this very good nice Dias who were good greats

were a strike but not even people didn't do do it

so some some people and it was the poor

the and it and not better and not it never maybe

maybe you when you get versatile so who

came this started you know Mark Ruz but

Mark, he, if were to get a har, with him, he'd be a guy good,

a strike. So I just I'd see this opportunity to be a lot of the game, and it was

very good for me. So, maybe, those things that were a lot of my career.

We said, the list of, the, the picas that you got, it's got,

it's been maybe maybe it's had felt a certain, a, you know,

to co-o- carrieing, you've been to try in the last, there, that she

She-Gun, that took engasged during a lot in the UFC came out of good, but he won't get to get to the centuron.

I think it was still this cituron to put on the page there and see the the ceregia of the bowl?

Ah, with a true, I think all the doctor, he al-Mexam a storon on the final

of the career. I came, I was, I, got in the top five, top three of the FC, and then

I, and I, I, I, he was like a rey-in-law, like the grand champion. He was a very difficult, a guy very grand,

it's difficult, a force, a piece-peas-a-ne, because he descended to 93, but he was a piece of time, of force, when he agar,

technically, too, so, I got a phase very difficult to be able to get in a centuron, really with this,

maybe, the guy who came to get the most the guy who came to get a centuron when he was a post,

he just, he just, he recovered, of back. Poh, there's I'm

a lot, the Rachad Evans, after I won't I'm going also there's

a pedrear really, it's a a, it's a, a, it's a dream,

that we really, but I did some a way, I came much pretty much

good, the rent, the Swart, Stau, overhien, these guys,

the guys Sakurabaabab in the time, I think I did, I did I did

I, did Brian Bader, I did, I did do a lot good, I did a great lot, I think, I think it

did to do to do a great career, both in the F.C. and the same, with a chance,

and if you could be, if you were to be to be in these camp of box and decide to

make a other M.A. and if you had the choice, who you would be to confront

in a moment, in a world, in a man, man, man,

it's Diffic to say, I think like, so, I think, so,

the question in the and that is a lot not-native in the M.MA,

like, to be, to be, to be a difficult, it's a question

that we have to be to analyze really. But there many people there were in 93

kilos, not, of a, don't, there'd be to do that a lot

to do, there many people good, in the question of the age,

of the time, to be able to be able to be able to be a lot of a man, you know, a lot of something like,

I think to analyze. But, so, maybe, the M. M.A. not would

be my, my, my, my, my, my, great son, now,

I'm, I'm very focused in box, I'm, I'm, can do, can do

do you, can do And there would a adversary of the Sons of the box, then? P, do box, the guy,

there are many, there's many, I think to do box can't do to do a guy like a

old John of Jr., I think, that's an ex-campion, a man, who, who,

who, a lot, a lot of a lot of Mike Tyson, you know, I think to son-

to say, yeah. I think a guy, a, he's, a, one,

a, one, a, You're going to get the brothers Jake Poe, or Gapot, also, the people are

doing super well, they're not on a haltianna and so, so, so, are a YouTuber,

but are athletes, the guys are an athlete, I think, maybe, are, some,

some, some, some, there, so, or then, to get a big,

a ex-campion, a ex-campion, a, so, a guy, I, like, a,

see, a, he, , by the question of age. Maybe he has a little bit more serious, but more, more than my age,

then he has to be able to be able to be. But I think that's, some, are the chances, the people who are the first of the FC in action against a guy, not,

the level of box, like I, in a lot of box. I think it will have entertainment. Who, maybe one, I'm a quarter,

I'm talking with show one, now in the regal of box. Oh, that's it would be good, The three The three that you The three that you've

Were you So who are in the MMA Are you guys? So who can't Is that quote? It's like that way? It's in the air Yeah, but

That's here Chobon Let's Let's do this Let's Confere Yeah, I'll answer

If you've Yeah, I want my Percental I'm Yeah, That's a lot Yeah, But that's a loton,

In fact, You know, In fact, The end of the box You're supposed guys. Oh, Jorge, thank you.

Thank you, I know that in the courier of fight week in this return in a guard to box. But very

thank you. Thank you. Good, this reta final. And it's a lot of your mother. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Dumbigown, in. Fight music, show.

It's been a show of a lot and I will be there and I'm looking my knockout

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