MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Balanço do UFC em 2023 c/ André Azevedo (+ Alexandre Pantoja)

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

O UFC encerrou seu calendário em 2023, e o Trocação Franca recebe o narrador André Azevedo para fazer um balanço da temporada e eleger os melhores (e piores) do ano. O podcast recebe também o ca...mpeão dos moscas Alexandre Pantoja, que fez uma revelação surpreendente sobre a vitória diante de Brandon Royval no UFC 296. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC has closed its year, and Trocação Franca welcomes UFC Fight Pass Brazil commentator André Azevedo to recap the year and pick the best (and worst) of 2023. The podcast also features an interview with UFC flyweight champion Alexandre Pantoja, who makes a surprising reveal about his UFC 296 title defense over Brandon Royval. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 And representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guineering! Hello, oh, oh, myglo, fan of the lot, well, welcome to Centeenth-ovicely episode of podcast Trocação Frank, A's your
Starting point is 00:02:33 house about MMA in this immense podesferra. I'm Glemy Cruz, correspondent of the site
Starting point is 00:02:37 American on M.M. Fahler in the Brazil, completely griped, I'm going to go back this week,
Starting point is 00:02:42 in the company of Pantosja, who defended the centroion of the FEC in the last New Mexico in
Starting point is 00:02:48 last week, but the program comes a rezener with a narrator, Andrews Zivido,
Starting point is 00:02:53 who He finished the first year of the FC FightPest in Brazil narrating this great victory of Carioca. All good for there, my friend. Welcome, more one way, a podcast. Fala Guy,
Starting point is 00:03:01 Fala the guy who over here, the trocaation Frank, this guy, boa of luta. First, the pleasure to be here
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Starting point is 00:03:30 there's an an approximation emotional with some people with some lotters, not, the man,
Starting point is 00:03:37 and the Alexandre is one of these guys, that emotionally really carry a important
Starting point is 00:03:44 for me, that I know I know a much time for the career of him,
Starting point is 00:03:47 you too before there, shotototot, since after shot, So it's
Starting point is 00:03:51 very special to narrate to Pantoja this not was different like, before the last time in
Starting point is 00:03:58 a time in a time in a time in a time in a question with a motion and a we'll finish in 2023
Starting point is 00:04:04 this year so special for the company, for the event here in the Brazil with the
Starting point is 00:04:10 change of fight-pess not not could have been better not with the
Starting point is 00:04:14 mann't the arm-nout the long-the-o- with security but with
Starting point is 00:04:19 requintes of emotion in that re-final, to matter of the heart of the heart and, po, and the Alex, that was he won't know,
Starting point is 00:04:27 the year last, the signoron the category of the same. So, we're a way, very, very
Starting point is 00:04:33 positive. I think more positive than this, so if the Charles, had been to be a
Starting point is 00:04:38 manhachev and to bring the the centuron a little to us back to give to
Starting point is 00:04:42 me, but it's a goalast, this grand final in 203. With certain
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Starting point is 00:09:49 and who gain, we're who certainly, for the I, I want to
Starting point is 00:09:53 have you here, in the last podcasts of the year, to talk
Starting point is 00:09:57 about this year special that was for you also to the professional from
Starting point is 00:10:00 the fight pass in the our country, and you as the
Starting point is 00:10:04 the face here in the story, in the narration, the main the house of the F.C.
Starting point is 00:10:10 How was it? The ballance you did this year, the work, with your job, with your
Starting point is 00:10:15 work, after a lot of time in combat, now, helping to get the new public,
Starting point is 00:10:21 a new platform here. It's curious, that we, that we got this papo,
Starting point is 00:10:26 right, before the first the first the first the one was with you.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Well, yeah, and we're doing this, I don't know if this will be the one of the one of the last one of the
Starting point is 00:10:36 one of the last, it's the last after the last after the first of the so I'm perfect, and
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Starting point is 00:10:58 the Glover will be you, and I don't never I'm very much I'm in a thing curious and
Starting point is 00:11:03 now we're talking about we're talking about this year it's a person who personally for me
Starting point is 00:11:09 for my career was a divisor of the after after to get 11 years in the
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Starting point is 00:11:19 this this year professionally was the most most important
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Starting point is 00:12:06 a passion and I said some other times in some podcasts I participate and with who I
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Starting point is 00:12:21 thing that's doing the people who are doing who's over the way just see who there in front of the
Starting point is 00:12:27 cameras, There are some two dozens of people that make a lot thing that's so I think all this tezown of the guy in
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Starting point is 00:12:55 I'm more partin here of the studio, I'm go to you leave in the studio, you will
Starting point is 00:12:58 will accompany you can be able to observe this. And who are doing the people who have done,
Starting point is 00:13:02 you know, you know what I'm talking. So, the climate is very good, the people are very compensated,
Starting point is 00:13:07 what is very important, so all the people are very much and with a business to happen. This first year,
Starting point is 00:13:15 Guy, in what does respect to the business of the FC in Brazil, because we, we moved a
Starting point is 00:13:22 paradigm of how to see the event. In fact, the we had a little
Starting point is 00:13:27 a cellar of crisis, because you have to administrate a crisis in the first, because it was that the
Starting point is 00:13:32 law of the new thing never knew nobody knew where it's going to but I didn't know
Starting point is 00:13:37 some people not, some people, and even today we have to do that our public but it's
Starting point is 00:13:42 so the first year, we're just just on the first, we're just the success was immediate.
Starting point is 00:13:50 In that you first, in the first we were we're seeing tatching the thing,
Starting point is 00:13:53 we're for that UFC-Hrick, was a issue logistical for all the world and there's going to golough,
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Starting point is 00:14:08 in the time of the team of the UFC in the combat, so it was a success total of the car
Starting point is 00:14:14 and then we just are, but it's just been growing the base. I don't have
Starting point is 00:14:18 numbers to give you even if I have been I'm prohibitive to pass we don't don't put
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'll go to give I'm going to we're growing exponentiallyally and of vent in popa
Starting point is 00:14:31 here in Brazil the tendency is just to grow even more to you're some idea of what I'm
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Starting point is 00:14:54 the base connected. You have a adesion of 95% of centenas of millions of people,
Starting point is 00:15:02 and the same time, it was a thing that's a big, and then in the John Jones, 95. And then, we have 99%
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Starting point is 00:15:15 person who was in a situation that he not could see, because I knew
Starting point is 00:15:20 to get in the casement, paring, to be a not the guy that was a
Starting point is 00:15:25 man, but we're in a past, I'm going to get a point, I'm trying to get into here. Ententeau.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So, that's a success absurd. Remembering that we bring with a pirataria,
Starting point is 00:15:38 with the IPs TV. So, the most most most concorrent today is disheal,
Starting point is 00:15:42 because it is the pirataria, is the IPTV. It's the only concorrence that we have, that we're
Starting point is 00:15:48 talking there we're talking, and millions and people who have access to this cany-on. But I think that we're doing the work of Formigin'all
Starting point is 00:15:54 and of education of the people and to show the value that's the platform, to be able to see the time as well, I'm sure. And the price is so barrenu, pox, po, I'll, bro, troc-a-cocle, a cochina for a month of a signatura, right? It's a , pern't. P, it's $12.45,
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Starting point is 00:16:43 I was I'm re-rembris and all I'm and you and poor I'm it was
Starting point is 00:16:46 you were yeah we we had the Davidson champion in Pesum Pizmors that the Poitam was a champion of
Starting point is 00:16:50 of the Pothan had two cinturons and in January we had to be the globe disputing the vanguard, so the perspective
Starting point is 00:16:58 was to terminate the first month with five centurons and it and it was a much thing happened of the five all of course
Starting point is 00:17:06 because the Glover and was over because the president the Amanda she was April 2 the Poetan
Starting point is 00:17:10 per day and the Dessan and the same night that the globe in the Rio but then
Starting point is 00:17:16 but then then the Poatat subed to the category who He was.
Starting point is 00:17:18 The Pantor, he got the centuron, that was the last year, and in 2024, Amanda, Amanda aposentor. Amanda,
Starting point is 00:17:26 the manned so we got to a year. We got a year with two, being the point of the most subpreendent
Starting point is 00:17:34 because it was in a category of the same and it started the year five months after after the other division,
Starting point is 00:17:40 a man, phenomenal. And now, we're going to in January, the Mayer Shittara, disputant, the centuron,
Starting point is 00:17:45 which was the Amanda. The list interminable there's top contenders in various categories.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Maladino Johnny Walker is going to get to Calave you can beliskar a chance there the Borrachina
Starting point is 00:17:59 when he was Dorin, the Pobos and the Chasolol that also is a very very well
Starting point is 00:18:05 if it's fit to get a chirox in the next rounderer so you can have been
Starting point is 00:18:09 little Citrase now but as like a list vast of
Starting point is 00:18:13 car in semifinal to a tip of the central, yeah. It was a
Starting point is 00:18:20 challenge because the internet don't perdo you internet, not, internet not, the people, because no,
Starting point is 00:18:26 it's not a internet, not a lot of people are people who don't know, poe, foot,
Starting point is 00:18:31 be free, this fight pairs is bad, it's a problem, it was a question,
Starting point is 00:18:36 it was a question, but we're we're in the UFC Fight Pairs Brazil, but we
Starting point is 00:18:44 represent us the market global, the market world. So, no matter. It's important, I mean, it's a lot of, sure that we
Starting point is 00:18:51 want to have a champion a Brazilian. Of course, that I'm not sure, but the most important, is the we continue to keep up-en-
Starting point is 00:18:57 the sport as a whole. And in this you said, the Charles not retomow the but he made a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:05 the grand against the Dariush, that was like it was a lot of a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:11 the country. We, we, it, p, alavancu, of Charles, you know, and there's a turn
Starting point is 00:19:15 normal, that the people have, some, some, some are canceling the stature of a time,
Starting point is 00:19:20 but the turner is a bashed a lot of these, each other promotion, the base creases a better than
Starting point is 00:19:27 more, the question, John Walker, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:33 I'm gonna, uh, so, it's, no, it's, no, two,
Starting point is 00:19:36 two, Bich, we, we're, we're, we, we're, we're,
Starting point is 00:19:39 there, many, Much thing. And, for, now, I'd for the year
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'd like to make a pack-on so, what you got to do this year, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you know, the majority of those were spectacular, and all, I'd like to do you for you
Starting point is 00:19:57 for a top three, a election of the podcast, me and two, the great distacks of the year,
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'd to make to make a listin and, and come back for the little lot lot-
Starting point is 00:20:08 the world, the world, the world, the bronze between the in 2023, I'd like the
Starting point is 00:20:13 those the choice and the two choices and for your marvellous three the first
Starting point is 00:20:17 many those three men are the first, Islam Rahchev, champion he got the signtourn of
Starting point is 00:20:31 the time the signtouron the signtouron batheed two two times the Alexander Volcanoveski
Starting point is 00:20:36 who is one of the world, one of the many of the world, one of the most of the
Starting point is 00:20:41 times when we look to And in a list of of the best of the time, he could figure out independently of the category.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So Marachev for me, was one of these. The Alex Poitan, for have batied an ex-campion, the Yambuahovit,
Starting point is 00:20:55 and in the sequence, had been seen the cinton of 93 kilos, so the Poitam to me the first, and the
Starting point is 00:21:01 Alchandri Panthorja who had a year a year, who had beenceal the centuron and defended with much
Starting point is 00:21:07 authority. First, that he batted the moreno in a lot difficult Silima, was very
Starting point is 00:21:11 intelligent, and reforce this intelligence against the man who the manned this,
Starting point is 00:21:19 in this last one this three for me were brilliant and I got a little bit a
Starting point is 00:21:24 point, and I'm a star, because, car, do what this guy did with
Starting point is 00:21:30 a little time of a bit of sports, just with 30 years of years of
Starting point is 00:21:34 age, no, this guy not this guy is one of the major of the
Starting point is 00:21:37 story of sports of combat, involving all the sports of combat, I'm a batata fritter.
Starting point is 00:21:44 This guy is... No? With a certain. He's a... He's a... He's... He went to... The point of a distance
Starting point is 00:21:54 between one and other is very small. I've got to Pothan in third. I've got him in second. Those lists, those reasons, that you've got...
Starting point is 00:22:02 The Pouatat, is interesting that he started, when he was... ...and, and even so... ...and, even so... ...he'll make him...
Starting point is 00:22:08 ...the-of-the-one-the-the-the-of-the-old... the year. And in first place I put him Al because because for me the most
Starting point is 00:22:17 impressionate of him was the return because the guy, he was made a lot of a long long long put a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:25 a category that is very difficult you're going to get into a super one soco a couple, a couple, a single
Starting point is 00:22:32 to Marce and Tibura, which is a lot but has a no level of difficulty so great, the guy is a top but
Starting point is 00:22:36 a lot more not at the elite and then Then, then he got the Pavlovich, that for me, he would get him and simply passed the car, destroyed a porrada.
Starting point is 00:22:46 For me, the Tomasperna, today is the champion of the FC. John Jones, no, I think he'll be in the future, but then it's another debate. So, for me, the Tamaskinel will leave the first
Starting point is 00:22:56 place, I mean, and I'm going to start with my list here. It's... It's to dop. It's a top five, this, yeah?
Starting point is 00:23:03 It's to do you. It's a pottoj. I can't leave a pantoshes to leave a pantoshes to get complicated, Yeah. Complicated.
Starting point is 00:23:11 This year. That's... Yeah. Gave. And your argument... The argument of Espin, no,
Starting point is 00:23:16 porra. Cabe total in top three, with certainty. It's complicated. But we're doing these, we're doing
Starting point is 00:23:22 these ponderations and we want to the listra one of the other. In the
Starting point is 00:23:26 final of the top three, jump three, you can be a top five, top five, top six. Justice.
Starting point is 00:23:30 We've had five names then, so it's justici. And between the women, I pute
Starting point is 00:23:35 in the first of a Alexa Graso, who for me she was incredible. She was a good victories of the UFC,
Starting point is 00:23:44 but nothing other planet, she was, like, okay, but he simply finalized her the major of the world,
Starting point is 00:23:53 a Valentina Chivchion, a woman that was for many intocable, she was there and finalized and the second
Starting point is 00:24:00 the last a grand battle, she was, I was, she was like, more by the first,
Starting point is 00:24:07 the first, what she did, with a Valentina Chavitianco was incredible and in the medal of Prata I bought her in Anne Blanfield
Starting point is 00:24:17 and also had a year a year very well high in the same in her in the FC both victories this year
Starting point is 00:24:25 finalizing a batistaca in a belliss a bachel and in the last the last won't
Starting point is 00:24:31 got a Taila Santos that had done a great a lot in Valentina Chivitjown
Starting point is 00:24:36 shevichel she I've got very very I'm going to the stature oh, I'm indefinite
Starting point is 00:24:41 in what will happen, but the other in my list was the she also got a batistaca
Starting point is 00:24:48 is a Tatiana Suarez and as how the Tomasp no, he was parted
Starting point is 00:24:54 much time and got almost four years without and this
Starting point is 00:24:58 year and this year and back passing the car on the Motta
Starting point is 00:25:00 Rosa and and back in February Amanda Amanda the dispute, the centuron.
Starting point is 00:25:08 So, this is my top three. How is your pod, you know, between the women? Yeah, come on. My pod between the women
Starting point is 00:25:15 was the question. I put here in first, Alex Agraso, too, for the most the most of
Starting point is 00:25:24 you, you know, venceal, uh, invincible, uh, until then, two years,
Starting point is 00:25:31 uh, the impact, the victory of her, I'll looke the Elizang the champion pesupalaya
Starting point is 00:25:38 because it's a manna that for in quite nobody didn't even in this new phase
Starting point is 00:25:46 of her to reyna to devendar the game to fensela physically technically is a
Starting point is 00:25:52 man that is a different yeah and she she has passed with Amanda
Starting point is 00:25:57 lemmas there for that she was a domino total she was she was
Starting point is 00:26:01 she no other another other woman had was achieved. This most
Starting point is 00:26:05 it the patamar that she encounter, the Elizang and in the third position
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm gonna I'm gonna a Mayira Chittara a Maira Bueno because she no me wrong, were two
Starting point is 00:26:19 or three luts I know two, probably for finalization let me let's see
Starting point is 00:26:24 here, I have here I'm here two two luts she was she was she was
Starting point is 00:26:29 a chave a chave a chave of a chave of home a ex-campiant, and
Starting point is 00:26:34 he's a platform to be the proxiae to the centauron. The year of Chittara was simply fantastic, so he was in this division of a peso, a division that, now, since the Amanda, opened a leke of options,
Starting point is 00:26:48 meninas, descending from 6.6 to 6.1, so she'll be, to puttar on the song in the end of the year. This is my top three, I thought,
Starting point is 00:26:56 but I'm in Aaron, but the Aaron went in other list that we're going to talk about more, but it's in my top too,
Starting point is 00:27:04 the A. A. I think you acerter too this point. Coase a little, something
Starting point is 00:27:10 for the knockout the year that doesn't need to much explanation simply the violence just justifying
Starting point is 00:27:17 justifying each vote for me, the knockout the year was the Robb Lawler with the
Starting point is 00:27:24 Nico Price and, along to have been wonderful was the appository the guy
Starting point is 00:27:30 the The best manner the guy to end up a career lander is he
Starting point is 00:27:35 was a wonderful nocalfe in second the other the Adesani against Poeatan
Starting point is 00:27:42 which was a vincance there was a doce for the after all he passed on the
Starting point is 00:27:50 hands of Poatan in the MMA and in third place the Maracheb
Starting point is 00:27:55 against the Volkanovics in the second the last took the
Starting point is 00:27:59 Volkanovsk for a lot, that canelada that he gave contrail who a guy who is a genoves who is genial
Starting point is 00:28:06 the first one was a termed and the revenge simply, poe, disimed the guy with a
Starting point is 00:28:14 carnelada in a fussy yeah we're we're a top six in this category because these three were completely
Starting point is 00:28:21 different car I would be like a show like it was an year it was
Starting point is 00:28:26 it was incredible man I will say this knockout of Loller against the
Starting point is 00:28:30 Price, car, was one of the many of the experiences that I had as a character that's
Starting point is 00:28:36 the story that he had to get a postentate that's I'm gonna know that he knock out of the
Starting point is 00:28:42 knockout that's, I'm, in the first position, for me, for me, for meh
Starting point is 00:28:47 against the Bryce Mitchell again, in this ultimate of the year. It's
Starting point is 00:28:50 was a poor, it was a co-ce, that it. It was so velox, but you not veal
Starting point is 00:28:56 the man the hand the man of the Mitt saying, and
Starting point is 00:28:58 checking the distance. It was a impact even though. And he came and fellacy, so, pf,
Starting point is 00:29:05 much less he was like, so, it was very very bizarre, man. In the second position,
Starting point is 00:29:11 a lot of that happened a little bit a little bit a point out of Anthony Smith was a upper on the
Starting point is 00:29:18 point of the peer with the hand the front with a man, with a man,
Starting point is 00:29:22 a man a front, segued of a direct, and there's just parol looking to
Starting point is 00:29:30 him, the Carluron Jr., and in the third position, Brandon Royval against Matheus Nicolau,
Starting point is 00:29:36 a joelada, coming to back on the point of the quix, improbable, dismanted too the Mattelzino.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So, this for me was the top three knockouts of this year of 203. Gia. Coza-linda,
Starting point is 00:29:47 for the vencedoers, for the people, and, and in the finalizations, I think,
Starting point is 00:29:53 not much surprise, I put her the mutatoroer of the year, Alexa Graz, finalized the Elitina Javichengko, the Chittaker, the Shittara, that you said, finalizing the Holy Home in second place, and the J.G.G.O.L.P.
Starting point is 00:30:04 D.O.L.O.O.N. The one of the World War I, that's a triangle, a triangle, a triangle. A triangle. A thing of a movie. Who you don't view, for him, for me, for God, is it, for me, is heardombe, very, very much
Starting point is 00:30:17 very very Grazschevchenko In the second position I Botey Damon Blackshear against the
Starting point is 00:30:24 Jose Johnson was a twister only the third twister of the story of the event so it was sensational
Starting point is 00:30:29 and the Diego Lobbbs and Gavin Tucker also that was fantastic and the Maritchev
Starting point is 00:30:35 dominating these my topics he and Wokanovsk the first the first
Starting point is 00:30:42 between the first coming as the last the U.S. R.S.R. represented
Starting point is 00:30:47 here in the New, sorry, is that there was a Breando with the American with my list here in the UFC Rib
Starting point is 00:30:55 but it was the Perian Morino with the Pantogia in the UFC 2090 and the Jason Gage
Starting point is 00:31:01 against the Raphael Fisiev that was a thing of that kind of kind of kind of
Starting point is 00:31:07 something that's a thing that is a used to be used to know our top
Starting point is 00:31:12 was very pretty so I didn't I don't but were two Lutas
Starting point is 00:31:16 the two Gieti Fizyev this you voted, yeah, Gieth Fiziev Mahachev-Volovsky and I
Starting point is 00:31:25 I puttheviz Berner against Guranco Tatelatze this was sensational a revir-a-volta a carnificina
Starting point is 00:31:32 and the Elvis got it was like the my I don't say the problem but
Starting point is 00:31:39 it was F the F the convidates car was to ferrar the convictors
Starting point is 00:31:43 this was too just Luton with a idea. And on the topic of the year to
Starting point is 00:31:49 for me, Bo Nicol, who came in the FC and did both of the victory and two victories,
Starting point is 00:31:54 the Diego Lops, although I had been one of the three-lutors that did the hour
Starting point is 00:31:59 against the O'Eflav that is a hard, and, poor, did a much the
Starting point is 00:32:03 work, and in third- number, Vitor Petrino brought brilliant much,
Starting point is 00:32:08 before to pass by the contendor after after the first
Starting point is 00:32:13 of our list, Bish, much I've got Vitor Petrino, I'm going to Diego Lops, the first
Starting point is 00:32:17 position of Diego Lops, Vitor Petrino and I'm a steve Oursag, the Australian, Pezumosca, brabo,
Starting point is 00:32:24 parambamba, that's also a top 10 of car, and quite finished, and now, po,
Starting point is 00:32:30 batte the nono, bich, a man, a man, a man, it's not, nah, it's like
Starting point is 00:32:35 came of a series of, that's a big bang theory and it's good for carambe and it's,
Starting point is 00:32:40 And to And to And to No, no There was a revelation Feminine, I bought a revelation Feminine
Starting point is 00:32:46 too, I put a I'm sorry I put in the I put in the I put in my top three but it's
Starting point is 00:32:53 got me Arryn Blanchfield that you puttow in the last year and two Brailleers
Starting point is 00:32:59 a Natalia and a Karine Killer that brillared in this year of 2023
Starting point is 00:33:04 just so just as berecidicably and to finish the deception of the three topics there,
Starting point is 00:33:12 complexes for me, the number one, that could occupy the three first places, Gono Margrego, because,
Starting point is 00:33:20 obviously, it comes to a lesion, complex, but all the confusion of the usada, to have
Starting point is 00:33:24 out of the usada, then do the car got, it's a big, and then
Starting point is 00:33:29 then he then, then he'll to use, all this problem, to me, it's
Starting point is 00:33:34 that kind of that everyone knows, he said, he's he's got of the usada to try,
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm, I'm the Anderson, Sylvain, he was the same and they were the
Starting point is 00:33:45 same not the same not the time of the old old is, but all I don't want to
Starting point is 00:33:51 I don't want to know, I'm the person physical of his but don't
Starting point is 00:33:56 hate the player, hate the game. Yeah, you know? Yeah, if there's
Starting point is 00:34:01 a breach for he to be to be to be back, oh, when I want to
Starting point is 00:34:05 come to you, but I concord with you, because he personified
Starting point is 00:34:09 all this this locusing that happened but it's difficult it, man. For sure.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Feece. Yeah. But, but in the second and third place, end of hands-dardes,
Starting point is 00:34:22 Paul Borrachina and Hansam Kimaev for the same reason, because not lot
Starting point is 00:34:28 this year. It was, ventiled a million of the lot of the
Starting point is 00:34:32 obviously the last for reasons medical, just justified, and
Starting point is 00:34:36 the Kmaev that a lot this year, and was against the Uyman who
Starting point is 00:34:39 substituted the bohachin. Not was a good performance. A guy who had a lot of in-siment
Starting point is 00:34:44 and that not gave him and he's my exceptions and the benceauroza for the
Starting point is 00:34:52 public of the F.C. Rio, the form that I'm the more, after the lot of
Starting point is 00:34:57 Dixon, and for having been gone to get rid the interview after the Blower
Starting point is 00:35:02 on the postatorator after a battle a lot of a lot for them. It was a moment
Starting point is 00:35:07 very emotional so for them for them my mention onrosy. It's a lamentable it was very it's not
Starting point is 00:35:14 it's not that you know that's not a usnancy in this year of 2024 in May in May
Starting point is 00:35:23 we'll have Tomara Tomara Tomara because there in San Paulo can be Brazil,
Starting point is 00:35:28 there's there's there's there's there can't so tomorrow so tomorrow so time
Starting point is 00:35:33 because where we're going we're working and will be we're It's it. I putte
Starting point is 00:35:38 three guys here, that's involved in three ultimately polemics in three times.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Colby Coventon, Sean Strickland and Drichus Duplecy. Kobe, for have said that to have done
Starting point is 00:35:52 to the audience, I don't include the Colby in my list, because he not is a
Starting point is 00:35:57 problem of any one of any of them even so no no no no deception me, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:01 If you if you get to get to get to get to you get
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm just like he P, call the police. No, tap in the car and you, you know, it's not in it. It's not to get to get in the field.
Starting point is 00:36:14 No, a bit of part. The Colby, for me, poach, I'm lamentable what he did. And the Charles Strickland and the
Starting point is 00:36:20 Drichus of Plessy for a cause of that confusion came out of octagon, with the
Starting point is 00:36:26 doorino with the door with the wife, with the thing, for the, because it was,
Starting point is 00:36:32 for a, because of a provocation of Dr. too that said, in the collective of that would be
Starting point is 00:36:36 to be able to him, you know, the guy suffered the man, he suffered after the abuser also who abused
Starting point is 00:36:42 psychologically. You know, I think, provocar, vendor, okay, it's important. I think we
Starting point is 00:36:50 can't be also, caska fined, no, I think, we have to try to be the more
Starting point is 00:36:55 anti-frague possible, you know, not I'm not I'm not, nor, it's of my
Starting point is 00:37:00 personality, who me who me knows that more profoundly, know, things, car,
Starting point is 00:37:05 that don't we can't we're going to that's that's that's over the trust talk,
Starting point is 00:37:09 you know, extrapola the good co-established the respect between the people, you're also you're also,
Starting point is 00:37:15 you're not, and, you're not, you're going to know, to be a man of people with this
Starting point is 00:37:22 time of things there, a lot of people who got to people who people who, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:37:27 I think, not it's not a way, I think it is a way, I'm going, I'm
Starting point is 00:37:30 there's a me applauded, no. I think there's a limit in this game. It has to be intelligent to be able to be able to do you. The best way to finish it is. Oh, the cuck of these otarios, they're maddened quite. I'm going to be a question and that's comporting as men's respectable. That the sports of BMA
Starting point is 00:37:49 goes to this. Posts of the seniors respectable. Who is a more educated, don't have attention in the sport. I'll make a mention of horrors here for Ian Gary. Yes, that's just so. He said, provoked the Geoff Neal, provoked New Megney, provocated, provoked,
Starting point is 00:38:02 and he said, and then he made with the family of his, what he not is right put on the pollado. Pote him, then he,
Starting point is 00:38:10 then he, when he took a 10, he took a not at 3, not past a day. Brabiss, good, man. Thank you,
Starting point is 00:38:16 Mark, for your time, time, we're together, we're talking with an interview with Alexander and Pontojah and he'll
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Starting point is 00:39:24 now, on the decision, 25 minutes. To go back the podcast, to talk about about the conquest, you said, you said, that was going to dispute a centron and not to defend, so conquist it, many of those things
Starting point is 00:39:37 for there a few days of this war of 25 minutes there, man, David, Gilbert,
Starting point is 00:39:42 always it's good to talk to talk with you, man, man, man, brother,
Starting point is 00:39:46 poor, more, more a lot, more a war, and a two minutes, more
Starting point is 00:39:52 a war, another, Brandon, now, Brandon Moran, now brando rival. P,
Starting point is 00:39:58 man, I think legal, I think legal, because, poor, yeah, I've had
Starting point is 00:40:02 50 minutes of Alexander Pontos in this year of 2023 for everyone to come in the final-in
Starting point is 00:40:09 the lute-lutely, I said that the lot was boring, was me too chata but I de a combustive for the haters, that's guys
Starting point is 00:40:15 adored in this, but then then I could analyze the the lute, I've seen the I've got a lot of
Starting point is 00:40:22 a lot of fantastic, you know, I think to ask to be a problem, because I
Starting point is 00:40:28 don't say that the lot was chatt because the carat really this centuron he was
Starting point is 00:40:33 he was ready to be to give this centuron, as as I
Starting point is 00:40:36 was also, I'm I'm in I'm in the bests the job in the moment and you know
Starting point is 00:40:42 you're not with a car that's a man who's a very much the guy who use the invergator
Starting point is 00:40:46 that use the arm there he took a matelzino colal with this
Starting point is 00:40:52 juleleada so I was very kind of to this and in the decurred of the
Starting point is 00:40:57 the lot I I'm I'm I'm see this facility really
Starting point is 00:40:59 to control it not facility to control it on the floor because it's very difficult to control a guy like him. The people even
Starting point is 00:41:06 said, why you know, why you know he didn't have been to be able? I thought until I think I'm going to get a little, and he analyzed very well, car, that any movement that I'd give a break to him, any centimeter that I would have to beat, he would
Starting point is 00:41:22 say to the position, he's a guy of Jiu-Jitsu, so he can't reverture very well. And I, I feltia that he was waiting this moment. So, um, uh, the parrupin, all the moment, on corny, gritty,
Starting point is 00:41:32 bat, bat, but I don't have what I did, I'm really controlling the aspect of
Starting point is 00:41:37 the lute there, trying to keep up himpte of him, and trying to some
Starting point is 00:41:43 to some to get some to the guy, there, he was the question.
Starting point is 00:41:48 What was the lesson? For the question, you're like you said, you've been
Starting point is 00:41:55 you've got to the lot, no there's no there's
Starting point is 00:41:58 the margin to me to a What you've seen in this 25 minutes that I said, I said, I need to work on this, I need to work this part of my
Starting point is 00:42:07 job? There are some aspects that generally a we train, there, there's a moment very clear in that I'm on the rival starts to get to be able and I have a total
Starting point is 00:42:20 certainty that, in the moment of the lute, I imagined the parropinia saying this, doing an expor in me there, for we have a connection very strong,
Starting point is 00:42:27 that I I would I'd have been in a situation in that he is in a moment that he
Starting point is 00:42:35 should be I'd have to this moment and not say but there's no,
Starting point is 00:42:40 no, there's not can't you have to the control of the cardio
Starting point is 00:42:43 for time, so you so you put on in certain doses in certain
Starting point is 00:42:51 aspects technical so but I think in a context general
Starting point is 00:42:54 I did I did I did the possible to win. As I said, the Brenner-R-Eval
Starting point is 00:43:00 vends three Lutas, the ultimate his last his first of me, and before he had to
Starting point is 00:43:05 him, he didn't know to him, but it was a defotent that he was contunded in a lot,
Starting point is 00:43:12 he had a little bit of his ownbro he had this operation. So it's a guy that came very
Starting point is 00:43:18 embaled, man, it's three victories, two victories in the first round, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:24 finalizing very well. So it an adversary very very competent, so he
Starting point is 00:43:28 came to he came to this lot, he's quite a lot of a lot of very well,
Starting point is 00:43:34 it's a lot really very good very four times this lot, I think a lot of
Starting point is 00:43:40 interesting to be seen, it's very impugant and I can't very really,
Starting point is 00:43:46 I said I said that I would do you would be more more soot in the
Starting point is 00:43:51 little more more than Brano Moreno really was really was really was really really
Starting point is 00:43:54 was really impore a little more the strike, but car and chef, the Jiu-Jitsu prevailed,
Starting point is 00:44:02 not so the Jiu-Sit-Sel, but the wrestling. I think it's a lot of you know, you know, you know, it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:08 a difficulty, that I had really, I was, I'm, I'm very easily, and not so easily
Starting point is 00:44:15 very easily deroged. So I think that, it's, it's, shows a show,
Starting point is 00:44:21 and, and, to maintain this high-nive during so, so time, I think
Starting point is 00:44:26 there's a aspect technical that can't be able to make, if we're sitting in in the academy and will see, but in a form of general, I think it was a
Starting point is 00:44:33 lot of work to see it in the thing that's up, it was a matter that was a thing, it was a great idea, and there was
Starting point is 00:44:41 a moment you and he was working on the matalienk, that was like he would get to get to get,
Starting point is 00:44:47 that you, that's, at that moment you you thought, but I'm, but you, specialist in Matalian
Starting point is 00:44:52 on this position, So you thought that he was to get, surprised? Surprended it. I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:44:58 talk to first time, I'm quite, I'm trying trying to make it to make it because this walk to
Starting point is 00:45:07 the third round, was in the fourth round, that happened this back up the caropina came and me
Starting point is 00:45:12 say, uh, we're just, we're this round, I said, what is, we're this round, I said, Parroppina,
Starting point is 00:45:17 a trainer, car, is the, is the best the world to me in the world,
Starting point is 00:45:22 and he says this for me to give a sense of urgency. He says, he says because we're doing in the
Starting point is 00:45:27 United, he's doing the American, so he knows that he says, so he made this
Starting point is 00:45:31 sense of urgency, I say, oh, we need to this next round, to do this next
Starting point is 00:45:37 round, I just I'll get before the minute to to come, and, like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:45:42 this round will be this round, will be so, so I'm very fernetic and when I get
Starting point is 00:45:47 the cost of his shoulder of him, Guelme, I'm I'm I started to pass very
Starting point is 00:45:51 bad, very bad. And it was a pass mal that I was conscious of that I was like,
Starting point is 00:45:56 I was apagando there, this never happened in my life, I'm not I'm thinking what happened
Starting point is 00:46:02 but I started to see the world to run, it was like if I had really alcoholized
Starting point is 00:46:09 and deita in a camera so you come to see, I'm going to see, I'm
Starting point is 00:46:14 think, I'm I'm talking and this in the his cost of his cost to him. And
Starting point is 00:46:18 it was a thing I don't could let him get him out of any of the cause there because if not I
Starting point is 00:46:24 would be put in a acubes really. And then he does a campbalot in the grad
Starting point is 00:46:28 and then after this sensation total, I continue with this sensation, I can't
Starting point is 00:46:33 make a catelion and then I'll pass that he now, I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:46:38 him. And then I'll put a real really. So I even
Starting point is 00:46:44 I did of new a lot and it was a not was not by the person,
Starting point is 00:46:49 it was a neither by the little, the but also it's a you know,
Starting point is 00:46:54 you make a pressure very in the heart and the heart and the guy and the
Starting point is 00:47:00 man, but he put, I'm the man rival, he was disposed
Starting point is 00:47:05 at the last consequences there in the lot of he, he
Starting point is 00:47:09 can't get from he can't get to continue to get to with him
Starting point is 00:47:12 I can't with him not a minute and then he can't reverture the situation and he
Starting point is 00:47:21 can't terminate in the same of me because I don't have even force more to try to
Starting point is 00:47:26 get the position so I'm like I'm in the leg on the joint of his leg of a chavre but to
Starting point is 00:47:32 do a man to be able to me to me to be but I but I
Starting point is 00:47:37 passie for this difficulty and I go to the fourth to Quito when I
Starting point is 00:47:41 sit in the bank I have very I'm very careful with what I do you follow in the bank because
Starting point is 00:47:45 it's all the whole one listening but I'm I'm just chateateate that he not most it's not this moment
Starting point is 00:47:52 in the camera maybe maybe a camera has a pego but in the transmission no monster
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm I'm gonna I'm to give to give me he's to get to what's happening
Starting point is 00:48:03 with me I'm I'm too I'm too I'm too I'm too and then it's a
Starting point is 00:48:08 mancaron my trainer of strike he goes no, no, get a Montauau
Starting point is 00:48:11 and my me agh like, like, I'd really have this, this image.
Starting point is 00:48:17 He me agh like to be in a braus, he's going to a braus, and he starts to
Starting point is 00:48:20 come out of a caro to make, I'm going to what you're doing, car,
Starting point is 00:48:25 me can't, me can't, me get to the guy, I'm going to get to me him, then he'll be,
Starting point is 00:48:31 he, pork, he, he, it's a thing, it's a thing,
Starting point is 00:48:34 but I can't, no, no, in the second round there, I'm
Starting point is 00:48:39 a, I'm going to start to start to know, I understand what had happened to
Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm going to go to work to work and then the end up to the final I'll
Starting point is 00:48:49 go back and I'm going to my Vague was 5 to zero, I saw I saw I'll look
Starting point is 00:48:54 four times I'm I'm a lot really difficult that he's really
Starting point is 00:48:59 a lot of me. Breno-O rival oh, man really really really
Starting point is 00:49:02 really really really really really he's a man no
Starting point is 00:49:07 he'd really It could be leviando what I say, but I'm a certain certain trestice
Starting point is 00:49:15 obviously I prefer that he feel like he feel like I but it's a mannino very good man,
Starting point is 00:49:22 a guy who me treated during a time so there's so, I'm not in the fund
Starting point is 00:49:27 I feel also a little bit for him because I know how he could be
Starting point is 00:49:30 all this title and but but it was a lot incredible I think
Starting point is 00:49:34 I could neutralize very in him and And, I, I,
Starting point is 00:49:39 I, , I, I've, I'm, I'm, knowing, I'm trying, where I
Starting point is 00:49:44 can't do, knowing that I can do a way, with a lot of this form, with a strategy,
Starting point is 00:49:49 much intelligence, I could analyze a little Vito Miranda saying, I think, he said, he says,
Starting point is 00:49:55 he passed a analysis, much good to what happens, but, but I, I think,
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, we're, I'm a finalization,
Starting point is 00:50:03 a knockout, but I I think, to a point general, it was 50-45 me. Assisting the
Starting point is 00:50:09 Lutal-A-Lu-Vive, gave an impression to me that you had seen as final, in the quarter, in the fifth round, you said,
Starting point is 00:50:16 you said, that was the point, I thought, I was thinking, the gas, now, now, it's a model of
Starting point is 00:50:21 survival, until the final there, will be able to get to get to this my mode of
Starting point is 00:50:26 survival of yeah, yeah. No, but, it's, it's, you're,
Starting point is 00:50:31 you're, you, you're going, you, you're, To get four rounds
Starting point is 00:50:35 there's that I'm going to be in the last time, I did much more more more than I'm to make more
Starting point is 00:50:42 for you know, for you can't get to be able, a guy that's getting to dispute the mental, too, not so force physical, but mental, too.
Starting point is 00:51:03 we have to understand this moment, I don't I'm not I'm not, I'm not doing with a guy who showed to put to put up
Starting point is 00:51:13 the centuron, I think that's to come in a paltta, yeah, not I'm, not I'm not, I'm a lot level very great,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I'm a lot of I'm very prepared for that that lot there. I, I've had a, a,
Starting point is 00:51:27 a, a, a virus, I don't know how I can't say, a infection, about three semans after, that I had to take a injection, a corticod,
Starting point is 00:51:34 because I don't I'd be a week. I was gonna be a badgarten, not I'd have febred, but I had a lot of heart of the
Starting point is 00:51:43 head, not that I didn't, not that I don't if I had been a lot of, I had, I had, I'm not, I,
Starting point is 00:51:50 didn't, yeah, I, no, I, didn't, And, poor, I've a week chave of the parade,
Starting point is 00:51:55 I just really, I'm really when I'm in the medical, I don't go to take a remedy,
Starting point is 00:51:59 I'm a guy totally contra remedy, but no, I'm not there's a time, I took a injection,
Starting point is 00:52:05 to make a so I'm so I'm so I'm going to go ahead to make sure to make
Starting point is 00:52:11 much, but I think I still still with a condition of physical very good
Starting point is 00:52:15 even, but this this week this week that I did, my piece deceo much,
Starting point is 00:52:22 I've I've lost three kilos so, that not it was a time, we're doing,
Starting point is 00:52:27 we do it, we do do that's a fact of the way, I think I'm that I'm a lot of
Starting point is 00:52:33 but that everyone knows how I am a really a religious, not religious to go to
Starting point is 00:52:40 the church, but very temente to God to know, I think I think all,
Starting point is 00:52:44 I think, I think, so, I think, if he thought that I had been, imagine
Starting point is 00:52:49 if I I pass the month of the other would have been a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:52:53 a lot of important to the battle the battle how old he went to the world he was
Starting point is 00:53:00 there no no matter no time he's trying to disvencelial from me to the and not
Starting point is 00:53:06 me done breaches to make sure enough to I'm I've tried a catagatami I'm
Starting point is 00:53:11 I've tried a lot of certain times he sentia my man I I knew I sentia
Starting point is 00:53:15 I felt that he sent me the man really but not I'm to expose, because an
Starting point is 00:53:19 athlete is a long, who uses the joelel, has cutuveled a rodada, so I don't put everything to put everything, you know? You should have to pay? That you could. For one question
Starting point is 00:53:34 financial, so, car, for being puttating there, be a pay-per-view and all-must, I never gained money of paper-view, car, I would be very bad that I would be able to want, you to be to be able to be able to be to prove
Starting point is 00:53:51 for my family it would be very difficult I'd say this lot even when I'm doing a day in the summer of the Lutte, you know? But, passed it in my head. But for all this question of financeer and all this virada that I'm sure that my
Starting point is 00:54:06 life did, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm think I'd get the pay-per-view tomorrow or today. Demore, no, yeah. Contabilize all. It was four months, I said, I was like, oh, car, I was going to buy a
Starting point is 00:54:20 car changa grandona, with a grotto. My cashier december my house all. I want a bit-boo in an apartment. I have to go to him
Starting point is 00:54:26 the day entire, but I've got my foot on the wall, I've seen that not very but I'm 100%,
Starting point is 00:54:35 I think, more than all, I think it's more in a moment there of the time of the lot, the money
Starting point is 00:54:42 pass to be a mere mer a bonus so, I just I even think more in this I think
Starting point is 00:54:47 really in to go to do this I'm a a player a guy a lot of a guy
Starting point is 00:54:52 very I'm always going to get a time. They did an estimate of how
Starting point is 00:54:57 it's how many markets, there's a lot it's a thing that it's a thing that's
Starting point is 00:55:02 it's you're there there's one, there's one, but I'm
Starting point is 00:55:10 not I'm actually this lacuna yeah I'm some other events
Starting point is 00:55:13 so some, the events that were very bad about around, there are events that get to get a million, I don't
Starting point is 00:55:21 do you know, I don't know this event has been batitts very high for have fighters in the Inglare,
Starting point is 00:55:29 the chakas the Kazakhstan, I believe that I think could have attracted a public very diversified
Starting point is 00:55:35 too, the collective of the public of the proper Dono White said after the Kobe Compton
Starting point is 00:55:40 to sort that Pairola Tenebrose the Leo Erdson, but the guy likes to see the locura, so the pay-per-view sub-subed, and then
Starting point is 00:55:50 after the press conference, and this, the month of the Lutton, so it's more important even when he vend. But the interesting that the Colby Compton made with that I and the Leon would get more
Starting point is 00:56:02 money even. And he'll not going to get. Exactly. The best, but I don't know if he has, I don't know if he has a clause that he can't,
Starting point is 00:56:11 although he doesn't be a champion, I don't know. I don't know how much that is the contract normally it's just a champion, or a condo Magrebor,
Starting point is 00:56:17 or someone, like, someone, someone, he's a guy that's really, he's a guy that's a lot of
Starting point is 00:56:24 people, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, he was in the first field, I could even say, to say,
Starting point is 00:56:29 to say, to him, to say, me, I'm madhound, the machounder, the macharm, I said,
Starting point is 00:56:36 the macaroner of Moitai, said, the Donald Trump, that I said, you he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:56:40 he said, you have to to Torser for the other, the other that's American. He said, no, I, I like this man. He's just a lot of
Starting point is 00:56:47 with a manno no longer. I think he gave a little remember a same. And the Dano Scho is always
Starting point is 00:56:51 doing the M.A., I think he turned a fan. A we know that all the question of
Starting point is 00:56:56 publicity that he does that he does that he does he's not not there's not much
Starting point is 00:57:01 not get to even to see many, he will assist he will be almost the FC numerated
Starting point is 00:57:07 because there have lullors with the country with the presence of his president,
Starting point is 00:57:14 there's all everything, there's a whole to wince the next election too, I think that
Starting point is 00:57:18 for the world of the MMA, the FC, it's very important to have a presence like he in the
Starting point is 00:57:24 gymas. You got a conversation? Was just that thing, just that thing, just that just a
Starting point is 00:57:29 matter, just by the moro. But, I'm really, I'm still I'm a day
Starting point is 00:57:34 to be this privilege, you can, you can't you can, you can, you're one the
Starting point is 00:57:40 names most important of the We're talking the President of the States United, one of the of the major nations of everyone, you could have this guy
Starting point is 00:57:48 seeing your lot, I think, boy, I never imagined this in my life. A we're not a guy very much
Starting point is 00:57:56 an idea of political, but you really, if you have the presence of a president of the United, looking at your
Starting point is 00:58:02 look, it's a thing, it's a very significant to my story. Tras the Olofos, with the talking in Olofote,
Starting point is 00:58:08 now, all of course, Day 24th of February, there will have the UFC on the other side of the other side
Starting point is 00:58:14 in Mexico with Brandon Moreno against the Mirabase that's that's a semifinal
Starting point is 00:58:23 to be a yeah, I know I just you know that this little really
Starting point is 00:58:28 will be the next the next the next the next the next disfionate there
Starting point is 00:58:35 interesting confront yeah what you're what you think that's that's
Starting point is 00:58:40 that you will do more than more than your way in your way? You know you Albaise will
Starting point is 00:58:43 you know to do a other new, for the little to do a muddard to do
Starting point is 00:58:50 a new in your mind. I don't point I don't point I'm because it
Starting point is 00:58:55 might be that I'm to talk to or to do any kind of
Starting point is 00:58:58 any kind of any this sport I just really really for really when
Starting point is 00:59:04 when we talk of category pes Mosca there in my
Starting point is 00:59:07 category in the fact but it's a it's a confronts very interesting you know,
Starting point is 00:59:13 you see the brother who not the guy who not even the guy who is a little bit more a guy
Starting point is 00:59:20 a major a major has a little bit more a new ball I'm going to with a man more than I know that I
Starting point is 00:59:26 know who's how he's going to see in this lot of this is what the almirobas will be
Starting point is 00:59:31 going to make a I think the more a car emotive much because you're looking
Starting point is 00:59:36 in Mexico there too also I think potentializes the He is a guy who's
Starting point is 00:59:40 always defended much the brand of Mexico and could have this centuron this event
Starting point is 00:59:45 to Mexico and I think it's very interesting see this confront with my base
Starting point is 00:59:51 growing much, he's getting a trash talk for there to train with R.C.
Starting point is 00:59:56 R.C. Rood also also and the Zerud also will be construing
Starting point is 01:00:00 a a team really really, yeah he's with Devesson
Starting point is 01:00:03 Figuero the Bruno Bodoggin yeah there also on the
Starting point is 01:00:07 last author of Davidson you you saw the Shemmo Moras, who also also, that's training
Starting point is 01:00:11 there's a team very solid, with Serrudo, and the main of the base, will have train of the Figuero, so he will
Starting point is 01:00:21 get really really really pretty really good. He's a lot of a good to grapple, and will more with all the
Starting point is 01:00:27 assistance that he has been there, the Sehrund for just had trained with Moren, the Dehson Figuero could have
Starting point is 01:00:34 been put a four years with him, really can do the good, for him. And,
Starting point is 01:00:40 car, I really actually I think very interesting this combat will be very much to be
Starting point is 01:00:44 very much to see this I don't know that maybe you can be maybe
Starting point is 01:00:48 say it's five or three rounds now. So, five rounds. So, better even,
Starting point is 01:00:53 I can't be this look in five rounds, if it for the fact, for the five rounds.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. And, and, the more interesting to look with a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:06 a lot of a lot of impugant, and if I were to him, to be a other way,
Starting point is 01:01:10 I'm with a little I'm going, I'm going to I'm going to be able to do that I'm a little bit
Starting point is 01:01:17 a base, too, a other side, a new, a guy that can be a new different,
Starting point is 01:01:21 a thing new, for me. I think this category, I always like to say, that's a
Starting point is 01:01:26 category much movemented and it's interesting, because the guy to to get to the
Starting point is 01:01:33 title, definitely will be with a stotorpe, because the category is very respectful, the lotters, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:40 So if the guy to dispute the trotoron, it's because he did for mereser. As soon how the Brno, the rival
Starting point is 01:01:45 did, different from how it was with Colby, yeah, car. The Kobe, po, I
Starting point is 01:01:50 think, he, he didn't look at the title, he went to the title. He went to
Starting point is 01:01:58 two deskshers, he went to him to last Vidal. So, he's a year and nine months,
Starting point is 01:02:05 he got him But Vidal, he sat down and he's been able to get him, because he's been parted by the time. But he was probably, you know, that's incredible, but he's incredible, but he's got in other categories.
Starting point is 01:02:17 The guy can't really by the file, for having a media a little more, but in my category in question, really the guy who goes to dispute the centural,
Starting point is 01:02:26 really is the guy that is the ball of the way, is the guy that is the guy that more prepared there. So I see
Starting point is 01:02:31 that, independent of the guy that came, it will be a guy very prepared to fight to live. And,
Starting point is 01:02:38 I'm going to the movementation is to have the FCRille in May here in New New New New New New
Starting point is 01:02:43 Brazil. Obviously, have to be first to happen this year, and in February. And it's
Starting point is 01:02:50 a little in the end of him. It's a way, it's been to the winner
Starting point is 01:02:54 to say in a little in a little without this event but it
Starting point is 01:03:01 but it makes sense If it's for Paperview, the FC will have to have a champion there, you have you,
Starting point is 01:03:07 have the Poatan, have probably a chitar now in January the winner of Raquel Tennit so there, so you
Starting point is 01:03:14 will be there to see if the winner of this future, would be a good, it would be I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:03:20 I'm really, to live this country, especially for I'm being a carioca, be the world, it's a partada
Starting point is 01:03:29 a part of my, I never imagine this in my life, my most dream of my life,
Starting point is 01:03:34 to make a defense of a sturtain of the UFC in New New Year. But I kissed
Starting point is 01:03:40 to bat in this teca, you know, I'm a career of cup, but I'm a rio
Starting point is 01:03:47 of cab, I'm created in Rau Do Cable also. I'm a cabist there,
Starting point is 01:03:51 is legitim can say, and, and, car, I, could have
Starting point is 01:03:58 the my the first trainer, who is Albert Reyes, the guy who me fez, the guy who me picked, who me went to me, who took him during much time, the guy who made
Starting point is 01:04:08 the same, man, let me give this agressivity. Po, Albert, he left to train in all these academies in the region of the Lages, I'd say in a porrida with guys of all the size.
Starting point is 01:04:20 For that the Nego me see, looking there, the guys, me met the porrada, and it seems, I, I, say in a porrada with many people, Billerne.
Starting point is 01:04:28 This talking about the era of Moitai in 2006 2007, a we had to do
Starting point is 01:04:34 seminary in the academy all of the car, the car being more than I'm more than you so it.
Starting point is 01:04:42 So, I could have this title to the Brazil and could have him in my corner
Starting point is 01:04:48 would be a something that I would be a thing that I received so he and not only
Starting point is 01:04:57 he, I could have all the fans. I don't like to say that's fun because
Starting point is 01:05:02 in the reality I have people who people who have been a lot of a much time,
Starting point is 01:05:08 my time I was in Wox no Shottor and the Rao the Cabo could have my mom
Starting point is 01:05:14 in the arena could have these my friends more in the area would be
Starting point is 01:05:18 impar in my life this moment this moment this is my motivation
Starting point is 01:05:23 for this event for Brazil because the People can't think that,
Starting point is 01:05:27 po, the guy will be a lot of Brazil, but it's a problem, but it's a
Starting point is 01:05:31 question, no, by the part, it's just to make the contract that pan to do
Starting point is 01:05:37 great too much. Pondor, my part, I'm, I'm not here, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:43 how I know, I'm, I'm, I'm in any, I'm, it's,
Starting point is 01:05:46 a, present that, this lot to the, but, in this
Starting point is 01:05:53 moment, in that I I'm going to really the band of the Brazil, you know, I never
Starting point is 01:05:56 went to the brand of the world to look for for being a more pressure to carry the brander of
Starting point is 01:06:03 Brazil, 200 million of people, we know how the people are critical and and julga and just the
Starting point is 01:06:10 number one that is important so it's a big, when you enter with a bandeer when you
Starting point is 01:06:16 get in the be it and you get to the front of the battlea yeah
Starting point is 01:06:21 I always that I like to take the pressure and not me to put out in this pressure. We just, we're in the
Starting point is 01:06:28 lot of pressure on that all the octagon all you do all the are things of the second moments
Starting point is 01:06:33 crucial, moments crucial that you do this matter, is a big, it's a
Starting point is 01:06:39 bad, you know, the world, the course that happened during the time and all,
Starting point is 01:06:44 before the last you had me said me that, that a guy who had been
Starting point is 01:06:47 he used to be the person, would be a pleasure to to talk
Starting point is 01:06:51 with him and The UFC solded a video after you seeing in front of you seeing on the vestial the two
Starting point is 01:06:56 with a stutouron after the last the victory. How was this encounter with a guy? I was irate I'm not
Starting point is 01:07:04 I don't see the lute of the because no moment that was my lot I
Starting point is 01:07:07 started a series of interviews and then I had had done all the interviews
Starting point is 01:07:14 I went to take a bano so I passed by the lock room of the
Starting point is 01:07:17 people came came to come started to get people started to gritty,
Starting point is 01:07:23 Amaradown, I saw the I went to I went to say he, I said to now I'm the moment of
Starting point is 01:07:29 the family yeah, because he's a man who I'm a family timer and he also he's also
Starting point is 01:07:34 we can't see that you can't see my centuron in that we will make a photo he made
Starting point is 01:07:39 he said to talk with all my team he said for my family
Starting point is 01:07:42 he said for mano it was a moment so much I'd like to say that
Starting point is 01:07:47 the victory there was was to show that was that
Starting point is 01:07:51 is a guy who had this attack of Colby Convton who said he would be to see the he's like a little
Starting point is 01:08:02 totally disproportional and poor the only way I concurred with Stichler in the life the champion of the middle
Starting point is 01:08:12 he is medium no he's medium in the life was when he really about this he is a guy who
Starting point is 01:08:19 not had a better person to say this, to than he, who is an American raised, very raised,
Starting point is 01:08:24 so he says that the people American don't have the Kobe Convson as a man who he's a
Starting point is 01:08:31 father to Bill E. Erdson, because the Leertsvon, a guy, he didn't have nothing to
Starting point is 01:08:36 he was if the father of his father of his father of a child in a moment, a guy that was created
Starting point is 01:08:43 by a man and the man of made him a man of a guy who came to be a
Starting point is 01:08:47 champion a man and the American would be the side of him
Starting point is 01:08:50 in this moment and not the side of Cobb and that's a fact that it's a point of
Starting point is 01:08:56 that when the Kobe then it's he's a vyeate this I'm it's a thing was a
Starting point is 01:09:01 thing really but really it was a moment I was a little I'm with our cinturopes
Starting point is 01:09:11 the same we're just the other face of the part of especially the lion
Starting point is 01:09:16 everyone thought he he'd be too much-missed with what the Kobe said, but I think he
Starting point is 01:09:22 used it as a combustive to look to look at that the form of the end. And so we're talking about
Starting point is 01:09:27 the chance Trichnons, happened all that the confusion there, peart with Drichus
Starting point is 01:09:32 Duplicina, the next his bestiary of him, he was the family of Durin in the front
Starting point is 01:09:37 there, was the children, and then the children were in the next door, the
Starting point is 01:09:41 those children were too too there, or they were in other
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, good question. I don't very. In reality, the accent of the Gabriella, of my
Starting point is 01:09:52 husband, of my children, was a little more distant there's a little of the Bruno. And then when
Starting point is 01:09:56 I lute, the Bruna a brother to do with a Gabriela for her to be
Starting point is 01:10:00 a little more more going to be a general, the UFC don't put
Starting point is 01:10:05 the my children in evidence there, to not that's not any
Starting point is 01:10:08 problem, you know, but but, but, but, but, but,
Starting point is 01:10:10 but, we're, many people, the bruno when I go when I'm going to like,
Starting point is 01:10:15 no, no, come to come back, come to come to go to you, you're going to
Starting point is 01:10:18 you're going to be the first, you're not the kids, and I'm talking about them to do
Starting point is 01:10:25 because they're getting to the carotts this battle, they've said, they've been
Starting point is 01:10:30 the lion, and the Chico, Dupos. Yeah, they're a previa,
Starting point is 01:10:33 yeah. It's a night very good for us, car, the last the other
Starting point is 01:10:37 last, the the arena, the the arena, the Tim Mobile Arena, was a lottated, was a energy very nice, I guess
Starting point is 01:10:45 much to look with this aspect of a house-chea, I'm an artist, I'm going to put this to this to do a lot of
Starting point is 01:10:52 impolent, I said a lot, for being too and stuff, and know how the public the public the public,
Starting point is 01:11:00 you know, want to be there's work, but in my position as a detentor of the centuron and
Starting point is 01:11:05 to continue with it, I have to be very intelligent, and a very strategist, because I will get the guys in the
Starting point is 01:11:12 time in the moment of their time, and I have to be in my best to be very good intelligent to make this tunturon for us.
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