MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Bate-Estaca quer testar o queixo da ‘campeã do tédio’ no UFC

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

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I'm a fan of a lot of 19 episode of the podcast Troca's Skaan Franca, a new MMA

in this immense for the Sphere. I'm Gailme Cruz, correspondent of the

American M.M. Fidererererer and I'm back in this quarter year, the company

of Jessica Batsaka Bacca, ex-C that's in filerando in two categories.

All right all right I'm I'm just thank for the we're is going to go one here, one there.

And when we're less is there, we're to get to be in the top. I'm in this way, in this journey. You know, you know, I remember

of a, I think it was a FC in Brazil. I don't remember where was the event that I was you were starting the conversations to create categories

and all the two or were pes-gallo or was, I think it was a boasts or the pala, I think it was a psalah yeah,

I asked you can't if you had the chance to bathe piece of psalo you can't, you know, just to cut a pern, impossible to bathe the and you're going to be able to pay the way, making it's like it was easy, to be changing to category

with a three-months of an precedence, a thing that you thought that is impossible. Well, I thought that I don't could give the peso Pes no longer, I think also, I think, too, some traumas that I had passed when I luteed

in Brazil, uh, to try to buy 55 kilos and I don't get, that was the lute that was the lute against Kimbrough-Novais. And, and, And that kind of

traumatized so I thought I don't I'd not even I'm going to get a piece

but I'm the time the time of the work in the work was trying more people

in the people who had this work that was the time he did this time

he said yeah he said yeah if you're just a just to focus and make

it will do that so it did It did It did I went I went to

5-2 I'm I'm a championing the category of the course, but I'm

going to be conquest to get to get to get to get a time, I think I

have the opportunity to fight in 57 kilos I think I think

good victories I think the opportunity to play for

the signoron to not not not not not

but I think more to more to more to I can't

I'm going to I think it's it's just we have to disbrava, we have to have to be to try,

and with a good team it's always it's always it's always the category that I want to be to make a 1

or that I try to go to make a year, if I'm my team with me with me

all right all right and I'm imagine it's much much more much more because you had

the structure here in Brazil that you try have a great team that the PrVT

that it's turned a reference and a team, especially in the women, and now you have in Las Vegas, continue at the trainer with you,

the cliento with you, or Giliette, Paranah, but now you have all the structure of the PIA there in the

end of the question of the part physical has been much better now in your day-a-

day, living in Vegas, but I will be to say, it's being very different

and very good for me, because it's here from the F.C., the side

the institute the side of the patron the structure is excellent I don't have no reaffirm of the structure

of the FC even for because of the trainers as much the training of MMA that the master

push the the trains for the men's are the men are coming also so this

is me helping a carol Rosa is here a Denise a Maria and back

a couple Jessica Deobone Vote and the Marron is

the So the we're going to the team have the aggregates, the men's who are the

people who are the leader of P.A. and that train on Livia Kano, the Mizu who has trained

with us with us also also the structure and bettering the training, but no doubt I think I

think I'm more professional even, I could show my evolution in this last last last time

it was quite that was my I mean my my life with Cynthia and my Luka now with Amanda Lemus, did to show that

I could continue evolve and I've been coming to the last time so that the evolution is excellent

You know, you know, the same, the your training of the also is made in the PI in the skate

and it's all it's all it's all it's all made, it's made a year, and then

we're doing there we're there, it's being very good because the master monted this or a time

for the time, and the we're getting doing to do a good work. The important

is it, to be together and are better more more this, to have the team,

to bring the the people to the team to to come to get to try to also this

structure that the UFC have to the country. Today, I'm, I'm, a Maria,

a Carol. If God, and now, Denise Lutton, the contender, also be more a contracted in the FC.

So we're going to be four athletes in our team, in the major organization of the world,

which is the FC, and we can use this to our favor, so the master,

the time, the time, the day, the day, at the day, at the day, at the time, we're in,

the day, and it's is being very good, because, as we're training there, and the

night, and he says, it, comeuppiment a person, and, talk with the,

it's totally different, you learn to say English, the my English still not is very good, but I'm able to communicate with the people,

and this is important, they're going to that we're doing, that we're doing the space that was made for you know? How is the question

of privacy? Because you, you know, in the Brazil, you had a same, you know, obviously, had the advantage,

you, you know, and it's a can't a can't, and train with you. You know, you learn to learn with of the processment.

But how do you, you reserve this or the Paranah reserved there is your this hour? Or if for a case,

if by the Joanne and J. Chek should be training there, she can train? She can't be training?

How is it? Yeah, it was made for the athletes, so, as a lot of the time,

I'm making the the oracle the octagon at the 3.5 at 4. Yeah, that we can

use the octagon one hour. As other me a hour, we can use the

tatame. So, we mark the time if you make the other other athlete of a

level of a point there, he can be a structure of the PA is very

great, so there two octagonus, there a tatame with a sack, there a tatame

gigantic to to work a garage, to work, a parade,

training of wrestling. So, the people go and I can't try

go, and every one to the can't-in, with a space and train all with the world together. But each one

with your training private, with your trainer, with your coach, with your colleagues of training, but

as many, there's, there's a time, we're with a gallery, and then we go to octagon,

but we always have a space-in for a person, we let's the time and the

people who get, too, go, and go, and go, it's or some

some way, I'm going to someone who's someone who's you've got to or someone who's I'm going to try to find a

thing that's because in a month I can't talk about you I'm going to talk with her I'm going to I'm going to

the naturality that sometimes the people get there and we continue training on the same way I think I think the

quantity of the lot that I have also in the FC and for So, any person who get to study all the

little of my lot, will understand the way I look, how I do, but it's clear

that there's the difference in the time of the the force, it's other, I often say to the

people, I often that's the Jessica that's the same I'm a different, I enter, more

more, but it's not that in the training I do the more, but I know the

100% that I use in the But there's a sentiment, in the time of the warraud, her, the porrada, she'll be be very much more than the train, right?

Very much strong, exactly. There's an other sensation, an other thought, no, in the hour of the lot, so, sometimes, the men

come, ah, we'll just be, I, ask me, get to train with us, get there, but the guys, I think

that's, I'm, I think this happens much, the, those, my adversaries, as they get, see, see,

see, that I'm, they're, they're, go to other can't, or

I'm, I hope my train to end up. But, like, it's, it's it's not, but I, I'm going to talk to the master,

let's try the normal, and when the time the other thing, it's other things, it's a lot, when she'll

be there in back, and it's a matter of her, but in the order of the little difficult she, she

can't get to get to the point of who's, who's who's who came to

the day of the day of, I'm, she, but I'm, she, but it, but it,

but it, but it, not Kintecherner with you? Look, I've never had

some men of the category of 57 kilos. I forgets the name of her, but she

was she had been, she she's got with the Priscilla Cacheera. I'm

with the time, I said, I want to train together, she'll be that she was trying

and she and train with us and she and she she was like she was like she was

being so she she made to get her in the thing so it

would be so but it's part and I I've got I'm quite I'm quite

I'm in the same category that's my name and train with me the manina that's

now that she's gonna she's she's training with a so she's so are men who

are the same the same the same a year we're going to be a tabbta

also I I've trained various times with her and that we we're in

but there people who don't go to train her, there's people who don't I don't know I can't

try to train with her but who know what I'm you can't you know, you know, yeah, I've called her

she called her I'm Antonina but the but the times because they're on the part of

the lot and the time and the time, the time they're doing other thing and then

never combine and of the morning we're always always always never combine to train us

train at home. You have clear possibility to confront her as a champion of the Mosque, you can't

be winning in two categories. You don't be able to train with her knowing that it's possible

that the your objective is to be in front her, because she is a champion?

Ah, look, I think for me would be very good, uh, even,

by the question of the confidence, or, or I would be a much disgostod

and say, really, it would What I I went to? It's the more to get to be to get to

get this thing. It's a minute that's a lot of or so I'm like I'm like I'm if I'm

if I'm if I'm if I'm I'm not the job of her and do that I think

I'm a good training for all me so I think it would be better

I think one day I could make a day when I'm when I'm not just

in the category of 52 kilos you almost that we could

I could have trained together. But then because of this thing of the time, there's a

different, it was a different. But it would be very great, because probably when I would be able to let us with her

definitely, I would have a jessica different, she'd, you know, would be a joke of her, for this, that never bathe the

horrors. I, man, putts, I'm, I'm going to be, it's the morning next year, yeah,

no, let's go to go back the next, but she's back to, and she's going to,

and you know, you said, you're always in two categories, you know, you're all,

you know, I think, top of, in two divisions now, in what you feel better,

what you think is your goal? Well, the piece ideal is the five-2, even

more now with all the work of the FC. I have a nutritionist who's all the doctor who's so care of this is a

question of the perka of the pain of I've had these traumas in the two last last this of now

in the 5.2 that was against Rose and against the A. And this was

prejudicating much to my my head. I thought that I would

would be more to be not to be five two that the age

was getting and then I had to stabilize in some place more more

more and I went to 57, me did very in the category of 57, I per die

so for champion and I think I think I think the good at the best the 502 kilos

now with this work the people I came in the time

the I'm super-twe I'm almosting I was I'm eating

talking about I'm things that I don't have done in these two last last

the last the question I'm free too to do the

I'd do, but I know when you know that's, when you get in a moment,

your not your can't be this way, so with this work of the PI, the FC,

the DEN, he passed all the food, I was right to me, every year,

I'd go and and I'm there, he'd put a quantity of the food, so it

was very good for me for my career and me made more more confidence

to be the 502 kilos. Inc. now I don't not to that's

very heavy that I was in off, I'm being training, not training not when

we're in the time when we're in the period of camp but the my weight so I'm so I'm

so I'm so I'm so I'm 63 that is the he's the he's he's timed

to be to be coming super-be so very well so I'm so I'm feeling

very to a next a lot in a last one a lot of a

57, that is more tranquil for the weight to do the I think the 57

me tries this for this for this I don't suffer so far

to do the but the last time, I don't suffer it was nothing I said

I'm it's very strange it's it's so I'm getting 57

kilos so so I think the person right on the 52

but it is there's apparently there happened this trauma

of 52 had had real or was a thing, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was supposed to be able to I would have been, so I don't continue the diet that I would have been

made, what did you? What caused? What did you did? Because you, it was because you had to come to this piece. It was a piece that you'd be a time to do you, what did you happen to the difference? I was, I think the problem the major started when I went to China. Because then I came there in China, the environment different,

food is different, I different. I'd trainava, I'd bebibed to eight minutes of water per day, and was dehydrated. So, it's just me prejudiceds

a little. I went a lot more time before. I'm going some things there also, and it's also got

prejudicating also in my court of the week of the week. In the week, there was a collective of

the press over the Saguam there, and the end of a half a garrapin of the day. I thought was

I think it was a one kilo and a half to batte the so it was like I'm going to get those garrapet of water

I don't go ahead and I went to be taking all the garrapin of and then my peso

so be soby I got I'm I'm soffed too I'm too

but it was for the error my and that it was kind of traumatized it was

it was more trauma of the because I had made the things

eras but I I suffered too to be able to batte the people and then

when I went to do the post to look to the last I'm a little bit

but I was too I think my mind I don't support not able to be

the war and the war of the other I had about to run with I was

not over I was not done I'm went to the China with my head

and I came in the last day I'd aghrava in the thing I'm no I don't

want to get the pen, I don't want to get in the banneer I'm my name

my name I'm going to go to the dentist you're going to say ah I'm

this way but I'm but I'm much much I'm even in I'm

even to see that I'm I'm quite I'm cold back

I'm very the second in the piece and this I think it was more

more trauma of my case because the whole always never used do the

but the mind I think I'm impeded much to do this

the form right and then I came here I did my lot of

five five five five I'm I'm a time

to be to this look to this month five three

seven years with three seven times and the the Luta was canceled, not there. And then they were

Amanda, it was with the, yeah, it's going to be a G. There's an Amanda

Lemus, with three months of precedence, and I said, po, with three months,

I think, I think, I think, I said, no, so, so, so,

I think, I would be a little, a lot, the, the, I had

had had got, and I had made put the other manina,

and I , I I, I, where they they offered Amanda Lema and I said,

I said, poach, it's all with four months of different it's a great,

I think I think I can't give the place and then it was where we started

the job in the PI. I was about 70 kilos gordia and very gordia

and then they said we're not so let we're doing it diminue the alimentation

and I'd every every came to come the supplementation

all certain I was doing all the trainings. So, so it was excellent. When I came

in the week in the time of the lot, it was very very tranquil, it's,

for more that my my head's like I'm going to do the world, I'm going to do that's

being, I have been that's certain that's all sure, it was super tranquil, I went

doing, I didn't need to disidrater in the fifth-feer. A we did a trainin-in-

-d-box, I went in a sauna, 10-minute with a sauna, like, very relaxed, you know, very tranquil, and I went to the chown

sat down, before, conversing with the gallery. And when I went to the balance, I just was with 53 kilos, which was, like, like, I was, like, I was, I'm doing, and I, I'm sorry, I'm more than this,

if I'd have made more 10 minutes, there had been back to 52 or less, had batted the peso so, it was a bit of the cinturon. So, so, it was very good, it, was very good. I think that that's kind of

that I don't can't get more the same thing. Tend those two options, you have an leke very good of possibility,

but if you put to talk, the focus, it's the point of, and I heard of a conversation, maybe you'd

maybe you'll get a Markees of their, but that happened, it's not having it's how it's

in the thing to the UFC mark a your next the next question? So,

the Macinz even the day, we went to the event that the Roos who had

a Rose had been in the car's sparser and she was like she was thinking she's not you're making

you know I'm not I'm not I'm not she's never she's better not lot to so the

we're going we're saying I said I said I'm fowda I'm saying I don't go to with

with a because if I'm wanting or not we know we can't who can who can't

it's three-fors to pass to go to go to but I'm unfortunately we'll

end up it's a category of 52 I became a kind of without this division

there's there's a many much much yeah it's it's

the Marina a Mackenzie and the Madalelian there the Madalien

yeah yeah it's yeah I'm in the fifth in Kint

in the category of 52 the Eli, who is number one, will talk with a Joanna. I think even in the rank-ta, but

if I get it, now, I'm going to runk. Gend, or I'll return her, she'll return? She'll go. She'll go. She'll go. Then, yeah, it's all right. It's all the confusion all. There's a marina, come a Macinze,

there's another woman, and then I. So, like, it's, like, it's, it's, the next chance to dispute the centurion, and I, and

I, and I, and I'm a marina we have a culminated to not not know what not say that it's a thing is

the same the same agency and the Mackinze just said that's the category of 52 I

don't know what can happen to be so I'm waiting maybe what the UFC want to mark

for me and then the category of 57 I I'm I'm asking to do

to look to a lot of women and one of people I'm saying so too so too

so don't who can want to do you can't By the contrary, I think I'm good too, I'm good. I'm going to like that's a bit of a manor of gala and asks for, what galo bon? The galo bon,

the galo bon, he's that, he'll be like, he's good, no, po, he's good, but he's bad, the other, it's bad for cassete, po. It's like, that's, it's, like, it's getting difficult to find an adversary in those categories, yeah, I'll have to have to make me to make, maybe, if someone assent. This thing

in the marina is interesting, because you have the same and as soon the last that was the last year it was the last year the two were to Twitter and said to put

to the stentron to take that the two emperasel by the people by the same team but they're there with the same

objective that was in this situation that he obviously obviously don't have interest to to be in front

as two want the two want the they're the same we're the we're in we go

we go there, we'll take a fog on the carla, she'll go there, tack a fog on the car. But in the final of the only person who will decide, to really, who will have an opportunity

is the Donoart and the, and the, the, the, the emperors of the FC, the Miki,

the Shanshaub, they're, they're going to decide. Inclusive, after the lot, there's a

commenter of Dano Art, who asked who probably would be the person, to be the He said that would have

an opportunity for who would be to wince the Lid with the Yolina with so it's

all the lot now, I'm going to for the both of the opportunity for the time, I'm going to

do that I'm in me or in the marina now, that we can be the possible possible

adversaries of Caros you know you have that you have been for having done to

do you in the category in the CETT to come to the Codonon here,

it's possible that the way possible that the way it's more more than the more than the way I gained, for more that I would have been to

Amanda that was the first of the ranking, she was being of five victories inbatible into the order of the

category and I went there and I went very very round, so I think that this

does a vision different, now now, who can know, maybe,

this this lute this lute this Joanna. Probably the FC Keaer me

have to have to get a, because the she probably will disputing the

ring. I don't think a rose vote and a revent I think she will give

a time to her and then she will go back it was with me when I

when I got the the centuron but I'm I'm kind of

injus they're giving a victory to car Spard because I I've looked very much more

with a Rose. We did a lot much more electrizant and even as they were a victory to Rose. And in a

lot of the rose, depending on the kids, not got much time in the child, the Carlis

not puttow many, they're a victory to Carla. And so, really, it was what I

said, yeah, championed because, look, that was difficult, you know,

much massant. There was I said, I said, people, I'm saying, I'm God,

what you are doing with a category, they're disohering the category. And then

they're a victory to Carla but I think the Rose not back so soon

so, depending of what was made for the final of the time,

we have a question, who will go back to who will come we're

we're we're waiting, I'm going to I'm going to ask that question of the

Card Spazza this lot that she she did with the

Rose in the but, the merit of the two because the performance horrible,

it's a horrible, it's a horrible, it's a whole thing in a category, because it

during many many years, many, many fans, even the Danamette said, that the

category of the Mosca, the men, that not apogent, the fans not liked

and all, but, but, but, but, the dispute citron, like this,

part, this category is a merrd, remember that dispute the cent, it was, it was a

a sack, and and you end up traveling the other athletes also, we know, who, who,

who, who has, who you have, you know, the chance you have to a chance of

a lot of that's zero, but the new fan that can be attracted, he could

be thinking, poor, car, that's a lot of men, don't go no,

it, it's, it's very marked, it, it, I think, what happens,

when the things are good, the fans, they don't they don't they don't they're

very good, so, at times he remembers one, or another, but when it's very very good

it's like that's like that's that's about, who's people don't remember, but who can't know,

but who the same thing, I think the fans, they're going to look at this category,

these women were there and did a lot of this way, and if I had been

a other lute then, so, and this will be marked, no,

no, it's, no, it's, Even the two being lotters very good

in the not brought the role of them the Rose not showed the the

she not made the she during the the what was what was

what was she was she was very very calelosa in what the

what is the style of her that it to go to come and she

she is she was defending very very the I think she was like if it was

with all if it was for with everything, the car will be put to be back back and then it was going to put to

the centuron for the first time, out of the tuff. So I think that this also could have

been a mark that was a mark that was made to make a head of I know, I know how

is the game of her I know the force that she has been and now she better

more even because po's she passed six years seven years since the

the Lota of two. So, she got it evolved, and I think the Rosa was very very careful.

And the Pat Berry also, I think he was, the Ket Barrier, he, he was very

very careful also in the corn. He said to really good so it's going and he had to have

a, he had to a little a little bit of a deader, like the little bit of

the Ketka yeah like that you want you want to get you get

I think it's a little this, too, he said, he'd say, he do that

he'd have to do that he's to do the world, don't want to do you, and not

let's the decision to the judge, because to the judge, it's, it's,

it never will say the answer the answer, the question, so,

it's complicated. And the Carl Spars, she, she also not entered

much to into, like she she used with the other she,

I think she she, she she'd I'm going to I'm going to wait a

right and I'm going to go to get a that she's that she does the

carl that's a carlowe and then she's a lot of this way and the other

but I think so it's an error of two but who who is the

who is who is who needs of this but the champion also he has to

show that he's the country so you to get to get into

the category and say, I can be good to be good in what for, but I don't want to put a bar

back back. And I'm to get a little far to get a little. So I think was,

it was the two. I'm sorry that this don't happen more times, I hope that the

person of Karla can't make a show, that is what the our category

does, that's that our show always, and we want to get a decision

of Dan Light, I think if if if it how you can get in her?

Ah, well, she'll have to calibre about a question of her, because it will take much, you know, to be there. A lot is that

not going to let's make it that she'll really really, right? Exactly, or she will have to do

the better in the endrada and do all to me and put to me, you know, I think,

you're going, you're going, you're easy, but now when you put a person on the ground,

it's difficult. So, I'm I'm, if it were I, that she was for I, that she was very prepared, because the mom is a lot is

in day, the defense of keda is in day, I'm ready, for a dispute a centuron with her. And it's a lot that I've been asking for a

category of 52, it was to be to be the first with a carnesparred. But she she didn't, she said

that she'd say that not would be because she had been a pensive a Claudia Gadele,

that the Claudia had had a, Claudia, she had done the other and she was very

unjust, so she she didn't want to be other of the Brazheers, because the the Brazilian

not d' the person, she said, I said, no, a brazener, no, the person,

then I'm too, I'm trying to do with a I'm, batty the person,

super-tranquil, batte the person, I think, the centuron even, then I made a

message to her and then, and there, and I, you don't, you know, not was in the doubt,

I'd be, I'll be in the sense that you will have to be a lot of you, I'll do that she's, I'm broke in

all the things in the radio social of her, and never more said, nothing, so I never never could

to look to the carna, then, then I'm, I'm going to, I'm, and then she was there,

she was, well, I'm back back again, I'm still, I'm back to another, now,

now, now, now, now, oh, oh, so- oh,

Yeah Has it? Yeah, So, so in the hour, let's see, what will

happen, we're going to we're going to be going to in my front, but I think

I'm going to be very well in the two categories and I'm going to every

more I've I've heard, I've some comments in my last

I'm to be a point, I'm was in my time, people,

I've just I've been done to do you just are trying to be able to get to be

and I'm going to I'm going to be a little bit more I'm going to a lot of course I'm trying to run after the team of you know, you

think she has to she has to go to the Valentina or the is a lot of a level, a patamars different of her. Yeah,

I think the Valentina she's a very dula. She's really not because I didn't because I did for Valentina, but the level, like, the experience

that she has, in the lute, of art martial, it's, like, very great for a manina that, like, does, you go,

see, you, look, you, look, you don't see that there many women in the training of her. But she is very

tough. Like, she trains more with Antonina. And now she trains more with two, I think two

menas that are in Pi. And you say, how is she can't be so good training with

people? So she has a talent very great, very great. But the Talia also

very good. And one thing that I perceive is that the Valentina she has styles

different to to look with people she She's going for the when she's

she'll be she was more technical, she was back, she was she'd she'd she'd

work with she'd and when she'd she went to because I was I'm a

more than she's than she the difference the difference of time influence

it's I think with a taila she has more this question of

respect of the distance to find the the moment certain

to to get to the ball certain and it

could be a Tyler, how it was good too for Jennifer, yeah, Jennifer,

you can't do it the five rounds with the Valentina. So I think that this influenceia

much. If the Talia, this does well, maintain the distance set,

and I think the Tanya say it was a victory, even more, she's coming,

this ascension that's very a lot, the Tile is much Dora, but the time, have to

enter, saying that she have been to know, or you, or you not respect to

it and enter with all the or you study much the game of her and does very certain in the strategy

because if you say a tico out of what it, she gets a advantage and then you are in the

aso, it's in the burraco in the world. And just just for we'll

just to get to get to get to to be to Miamer after of a

lot, you know because in other divisions 6-6-1, you think in back to

6-1, we're in now have, a Julianna as a re-en she's she's, she'll have

a revanch a matter of the country's-se-lea not-know- what she'll do you do that she'll get

the second way of she would consider this possibility? Look, it's been good if

this would be so I'm my brineinexed to be sure, she's not she doesn't what she can

she can put in me-1 six seven, I want to do not what she's like what she has. I think

maybe in a future more more to be in it's going to be a lot of a risker more a little bit in a one

just to say I'm trying to prove to you know when I I've been seen in the three categories I

I've beence in a very something but some more like the final of the career but I

think I would be with a julian would be a would a thing It was a legal, because when I

I was in 6-1, this lot was to have been to have happened some two times but then a Juliana massed the legion,

then they gave the opportunity to look to to look to Raquel, they're putting a Raquel in the hour

and then I went see, and then I think the Rachel would to be a Juliana, and Juliana

also had I substituted the Juliana to do you and then I had to talked to the category.

But it could be an option very with a Juliana would be a test very, very legal

for me. And then imagine you're a champion in the category of my God, I'm going to say,

this man, this is a bad, no, not, a son is a lot. But it

can't be, we know, we don't see, I'm going to say, I'm saying, I'm going to

get, nobody to come to not there no, I'll put in a foot to the centuron

to bea-1 that I'm go. It's a pshaw to me go. Yeah,

I'm in a piece, you know, you'll put to call that we're ready for everything. And, boy,

of all these adversaries in the dispute of the centuron, there's the Pazza in Mayuna,

the Erizandia, the Joanna in the 5,2, the Valentina no 5,7, the Juliana in a 1 is an

one, is a different, more, more than than these others, she has been less Griff,

she got the mandat a mandat many, but a bizarrese, more demerite of Amanda than the merit of Julianna? You think she's that her in the paper, in the theory,

is more fast? Really, in the paper in the theory, it's more fast to look with a Julianna, even by the the, you know, I really thought that was more demetreter of Amanda, because Amanda has much more

more than what she was better than that was done, never was the gunches, not were never, to see, it was to see, that pressure not so great, but, I don't know how was the perka of Amanda.

It was for the first of her last year she was so something has been influenced on what happened during the luta. She was very rapid.

And, I think it was more demetito of Amanda, really. Not was Amanda that we're used to look to. And I think

maybe now, in this revanch, Amanda most totally different to who she is, the first, the Amanda

that we know and then recuperate the but if this not happens, really I

think it is more more than the julia than the women of the category of the

57 kilos and the 52. So, I hope that we can't have this

opportunity a day to do that together, and that be the thing, and,

without, I think it is a game more more to look to it,

we're we're used to be with the women of the 752, are more

rapid, has a potential of a lot of a lot of the people of the people of

they're in they're in the question of the question of the question of the way

it's the good as well there, no there's no more I think that I

think that I'm very good I'm I'm I'm I don't I don't

I don't I'm diminue the my my rhythm I'm I'm I'm

I'm moving the movement conform the that's that's a

point a lot if you'd if you'd have the opportunity to the time would be the

she'd be her to be the sturion to V-A-1 also. You're doing a job perfect,

that's creating narratives and creating the way to you know, the other the website, you

need to just to call. I'm here, I'm just more than you still, you're more

more than my door to my hour, five minutes to Piers bat in my part and I just to be

my part that's I'd like I'd like to thank you very for an excellent interview. I'd always have an excellent talk with you. No, I'd goard of your,

the convocation for the next month should be in brief and with a grand look. Tomara. To preference to the centuron. Ah,

without, yeah, Gileme, myrower that be it's a longer that's this response to see what will what will be

going to be but I'm but I think really, I just have a response after now the LULI

with a Joanna. And then we'll see what will be the end of the category of 52 kilos. And if

not appear nothing in 52 we chute for 57, if nothing to 57 of 0. What can't

be to get without a lot to have to have to work in Las Vegas so I don't

let's make this more so I'm to make this my focus in the my training in the

my luts and learn English of really right, and who

know, more to the way to have a way to make a lot to make a one,

it's like that happen, I'm going to go to go to go. Bejews. Bejews. And in the

session Fight Week this week this week, with interviews more more specifically

in the lot of I'll talk with Marks Buchecheche and Fabrice and Bradson who entrented

Simon Carson and and Qomomom on the championship this sixth

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so you can transform tomorrow. Workday, moving business forever, for. Finally will finally will look to after various cancellations

various battles and people out of the people are going to the fight how are the

expectation to finally know that you're going to get a thing you want to

you just think you will happen when you get there when you're there was like

four adversaries this is the fourth adversary for this lot so

it's being complicated but But the my part I'm doing, I'm doing, so that in all the names I said,

I'm saying that's, I'm thinking more much in an adversary, I'm going to to do my job, and

now to do all the right, to get to and roll the lot, because this then has

been atrasing a my career, the most plans, it's just to have to my

three years, but I'm in my third, so, but, but I'm going to be what I'm going to to be able to

working and let's let's really I believe when I'm there's lot when I talk a luvres you say more you know, you know, you're saying that really is fault of the sort of the car that's or you think it's a, in

some of the case, it's been a position different of your, that you said, you know, all the names that you're offering you, you're accepting, you know, in some of these cancelments, the guys kind of, maybe you're, maybe you're maybe, you're,

I'm, can't, say, maloco, go, say, I'm, say, this lute here. It's difficult to say, if it was this or not,

if it was really something something that's really something, but it's very strange, but who

I'm going to do you do that I do have a contract, I'm honho I think the name

my word, the word of honor to signify not just a lot of paper, so when I

go there, I'm supposed to do do I'm part, and all the other other I'm

I'm appeared, so that the last one was here in Singapore and the opponent,

not I'm not able embarked, so really he was barred, or he got the

COVID, I don't know exactly what what I wanted to get to get to

the camp that was was a lot so I didn't I'd notia

the lot to two months so when me when I

offered an opportunity to the two weeks I, I was, I was I agreed on the

hour, and I'm here in Asia, yeah, waiting for to Saturday now. In this last last week, you came to

travel, did you, did you, or did all these camps that you did, these campers, so will

be paid really when did the lot? No, no, because it was a a,

our, so, they, they, they, they, they, they,

they, the two weeks and I concorded in to stay. So they're complying the part of their they resolved, they're a problem. So I just have to thank you, I'd like to organize the organization, for

have been able to get a lot up so rapid and to do it really actually, you know? You, you, have these two

two weeks directly in Singapore or came to South-Geneas? So I, I went to Thailand, yeah.

I decided to do a a little, a little of a time in Thailand. I'm a fight week here, a one a week here, and I'm going to

fight week again. So this is my third week in Asia. You're where? You're going to

where? Lackland, I came in a Puquet Fight Club training there with the people, the Jukon

was there, the Douglas Lima, uh, so I, the Lel Elias, was there,

the Renan, who I knew also from my friend, who came D-Connor with me, Roger Clavid, so,

everyone took together these days and opt-we-you-to-est-ac-to-it not to be States-unice, because it would be very complicated, get, oh, 30 hours of of a voyage,

be there, four, six, five days, and go back more 30 hours, so I think that I'd be compensated. For that I decided to keep here. After the time of

the other than the other than the what you think is the other person, that will finally confront on the week

you think compared to the job with the other how is the how is you know,

it's a guy that's a game one of the kind of is a very singular you're the

guy of MMA is evolving on the part of but it's always always

that's he's always take me the your jiugits the your your

adversary that you see the he's he's he's a striker but also

it's a Pache-or-Ded-Sichita. So he has little experience, you know, theoretically, there's three luts, two,

one, but I also, I also me think a dangerous, and I'm doing two other, so this

doesn't say nothing, I have to be very atent, as all the all the and I'm

sure that I don't know no vacill, commit any a mistake, and he also, I'm not,

not, I'm able to find these errors of his, and I'm for the game. After this

battle, you pretend to get more another to get more things to start like you're to say 6 to 0

in MMA is just 2% for a 0% or you want a time to make a camp

and you have to do a camp and even to end up three three months until this next

this this this this this troca of this I think I will take

a two two days of and I'd I'm in because, po, I'm a very

training, so the body is a lot of but I'm going to be a lot to I'm going to

I'm going to do that I'm going to know, I'm going to be maybe in August so I pretend to be in this

card there will be a card very great and it's the first first time passing on

Amazon Prime so I think it's a good legal and I pretend I'm looking at this

Yeah. Camarada, Poe, I'd say with you the first first time. You're all rebeentating in the one

man, car, infilliering a galera and now is a lot of a thing that can be the

future that the next the second the centurion yeah. I was a person on some

time, but as there was a move a ranking the guys got the

Korean and the Filipino in my front. But but after I

I think I think that no, there other that's a more difficult than I will think it's a syndrome

direct, if they'd if they'd be a word of that would make a word but that

this was just, you thought no, be able to make more a lot there,

even because you're a man that's not because they were like you put to

you're not like a guy a person a person that's a man that's

Yeah, so, so, I'm, like, when the guys were actualized the rank, I became a little my, my own because,

in the fact, I got the number two, that was the Japanese, the second on Woonie, and the

Japanese, and the Japanese, I got to a little unjust, so when they they said,

they said that's more by the question of the number of the record, I don't

agree, but at the final we can't do you can't do anything, not, is to expect what the guys

want to do and continue and continue and continue to do you know it's a moment, not not it's story that's who

who's the right so it's right right so it's right exactly but no but it's

right to start to this lot and and get a chance to the centuron you think that this

victory will be the final after after after this no can't it's not can't

yeah because I disaffia the winner he not He didn't, when I I disaffed him, but when the Koreano he's asked him, he

he's accepted the lot, in the comments there, the postage, so I, batting in the Korean, he will have to be to me confronter, if he wanted to

with a Korean, and then he had to fight him to he has to be trying to get some of the other than his game of his

and evitating the fight with me. You think he is he's not a, because it was a, a, a,

a, I think that's a So I think you think you'd this last week? And how do you think in this week? I think in the first round, no-cout.

He is a good, a guy good, a guy that's a good, but not a guy so intelligent looking, you know, it's a

guy that, for more that he's a guy that always goes to a guy that will make more more advantage in this battle.

And I think I think I'm better than more force than he. You're guarantee this chance

to the central, you know, but, what you I think that this does for you in terms of name, because Pauline is a guy of a very name, well, you know, he's a player of one,

I've got to knockoutial, Bibbiano, yeah, has that famed, that's known here in Brazil, especially for having been in the FC, you think that I'm passing for this Korean now, and then, getting the Lineker,

and I'm, I'm, bringing the cindon-bris, you can, you will inevitably be a guy more known here in Brazil, the guys of

the fans of MMA, maybe the people who not see much one even, know,

know, know who is the question, with him that's a question, I'm going to

know, for this reason, for this reason, for your organization, especially in this

category, he is the guy of more name, the guy that's a story, just has

a story and he has a number great, so, So I think if this If this battle

I'll goate and he will me decolarer, you know, the people will start to Reconnacee really who I'm going to How you went to one, you know, car? We've seen many people here

in Brazil looking, uh, UFC, looking Bella, all and all right there's many people who have to one too

but how is your story like you, how is you, went to the one in the beginning of your career there? So I went to Brazil with 19 years, I went to China. At the time I was fighting kick-box in Muay Thai.

I had to be a lot of M.MA, but I had some of the dropas, me too, my unjust, and me as durs in the beginning of the career. So I was a time without a lot of MMA. I focused more in the part of the trikebox. So I came to Asia. I'm living here, I'm living in China, more than a year, a year a little. then I went to play Thailand, I continued

and I continued training and in the pandemic, in the time of the pandemic I was still to be able to some time and went to

Bangkok, do a event in Thailand and was using of athletes that were in Thailand, because at

the time, they were not able to be going to not even so it was my

opportunity, they made the opportunity to start in event and for me was what

I was what I was almost one I was I was just an opportunity. I was not training, I was prepared,

and when the opportunity came, I was I was ready. It was for this, but you had a of MMA? Yeah, it's a MMA, yeah.

In China, I went to Thailand, when I came to Thailand, when I came to the Ressling at Tiger, which was one of

my most most breaches in my game, was wrestling. So, I focused very in the Ressler, I got to RET, I, I,

I got some victories, and I, happened I did I could I could sign with them and then you you know you know

you know like in Thailand like that's like a tagg how is your routine yeah I I'm here

in Thailand yeah in five years I came to Brazil now after the middle of the pandemic

when it was it was just it was maybe couldn't get to get to Brazil

I was I was a one year in Brazil training there a new new union

with Ded and And now I've here to to Thailand but here's where I

feel good really really working for you more near to be more than for you

think it's more convenient for me and it also it helps you know

when you know with this time of so I'm so

it's there in Asia and you to get you to get

a a contract with with sure if I if I

didn't if I didn't when was when it would to be, if I would be a lot on a event

Grand, was a thing that happened really because I was in a place right, in the hour right. And how is a Rojean at Taig, because, boy, it's a

academy very foda, with many people, very pica training-day, but that this side of the world, here, the people, not opened the eyes totally to, to see how this academy is sinister, right? The academy is very top.

train here almost five years as I said a opportunity to train with with Grand Nobbs

like Peter Ian, Alex Vauconov all these guys who always came to come to come back

to come who also me motivated because I went there, did the training with the

car I'd say in the man with the I was not different to them didn't know

so it so it got me motivated to continue to continue to continue I'm

If I was not even a event, I was always there was training, because I knew, because I knew because I knew, that one hour the opportunity is to get to get. Mania, mania, and now focus on the week to try this victory, to, for, who can't be to puttariang, to, see,

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