MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Bellator + PFL x UFC: O que muda no esporte?

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

A PFL finalmente oficializou a compra do Bellator após meses de novela e especulação, e o Trocação Franca recebe Patrício Pitbull e Juliana Velasquez, campeão e ex-campeã do Bellator, para desmembrar todos os detalhes já anunciados dos planos da PFL para 2024, e se a nova mega-organização tem condições de bater de frente com o UFC pelo posto de número um do MMA. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It’s finally official that PFL has acquired Bellator, and Trocação Franca welcomes Bellator stars Patricio Pitbull and Juliana Velasquez to react to the news and break down all the details on the deal, plus preview what PFL has in store for 2024. Can the company clash heads with the UFC for the No. 1 spot in mixed martial arts? Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz. Hello, lo, my friend of a second-density episode of podcast of TrocaCast Trocafranca, your house

about this immense Poverheter. I'm Gailam Cruz, the correspondent of the site American in M.A.

in the time and I'm back in this time to talk about the moment in the world of MMA.

After of much speculation and novell, the PFL finally official the company the company

the company the something that you're a assido of the Trocation Franca, you've

been asked, So I convoyed Patrice Puttibu, Julianna Velasch of two of the major representatives in the Pelator, the champion Peasupena, and the ex-campion

Bezo-Mosca, to me help to dismembering the details that were announced by the organization of the Plans for 2024. Bevinduant,

my friends, all good with you, and how are you react to finally the annunce, you know, took the Band-Aid and announced

that the Pelator now pertains at PFL the depended always is difficult, if it's been that not a despeded 100%

the other event that the climate there was the time was in time getting photos and

and doing confattingizations after the event this is an atmosphere too, but it's part

of the things and now we're we're with the expectation

to know really how will be this process for me for me

as a champion will be good because has been announced that in February will have the event of champions against the champions.

So, something I've got to bathele for a time. I've got to the champion of RISD, batting the champion of RISD, now I'll have been to be a champion of the BFL, that will be defined on the 6th of Feara.

And for me, it's a pass important, pass historic, but I think I'm in the expectation of know how it will remain to be the other great voters,

Juliana, my and other names of that's names that that figure very in this organization. Juliana was with a presence marked in the

last card at least of this format anterior but it was probably it had to have to say a few

how is the recovery of the SUS that you have a few days of the lot of

I'm I'm going to embarked on a domino and I think it was in

the second day it was a second day was a a inshast in the region of the virile

there. And I continued training that I don't want anti-biote, not wanted to take an inflammatory,

even to not prejudicate my performance. I don't think it would be in nothing so grave,

no, no Saturday I was, unfortunately, the virilia was to my abdomen. So I

left a really very great. I went in a doctor, and I saw,

in the tomography came was that was the was being

denomomominated cellulite. This I could come to my corrent

sanguine, that could have been happened to something could have been and decided me interna,

to make the treatment more more adequate, like me. Infairnsment, it was a day before, yeah,

I was well, I'm prepared, well, been in the first place, my health, and then I'm in the same way,

when you were the news that you, that the event was, the fact, was the fact, brought

there, how, how it was the first reaction, again, we just knew,

I, we knew, I, it was to happen, but via the confirmation, how it's the sentiment

after the time in the bellator? I'm, I'm feeling in know, and know, and say,

this, this is, but yeah, there were these speculations, so we just were waiting in the

reality of this happen, you know, I just knew of this possibility, but not

caring, not caring to, that this could be that could happen, but,

but, I think, I think, the a muddance, like, not be so drifica,

right, to a certain way, it's a champion versus champion, champion, I'd

still be in a title to be this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, it's very, but I'm going to be today, because the FFL,

in the case, no, I'm a category, how is how is going to

happen, so, so I only, I just knew, it's all over, the

Europe. So I still I'm trying trying to understand how it will

work. There are eight events if I'm going to think of the yeah.

So I keep saying until then that are eight events with the name Bellator

that are eight events, two in the United and so

I think I think I think the event will gain

a proportion much but I feel Triste to have this

minus one event, because I think we're in deficit of events greats, but I think

this junction there can be something for those who are in the organization, right? For the

Marca, PFL, to the Belator, it's interesting because you join two

two panties of athletes of very strong, you, you proportion

there a quantity much much more of of this

to do you do with the not the the whole division the the f f fl

in see but it's a little of a opportunity of a new

people that's the guy that is coming at the pinnoguea at the ptbolebrothers

the guys have men now an option an if you not fetch with

the if you don't get to the f f f f f f f f f f fern and so you don't have this great

this grand this grand market so much more more more fortlecored for

you How is, Patrick, especially, who is the leader of a team in Natal that export during many years, he exported many

people in the Belator. How is you see this for the market of the new athletes? Tira an option in the

hour of you pleading the bestial the world of the Brazil. Yeah, we're we're going to

another capital of the athletes, but I think the thing of all the thing of all the thing of all

to bathe the Marcel and say that this will be infrakecated. We have the notice of that the donor of the BFL he will continue with the two marks. So he will operate the two marks. He will operate the Eleanor. Loshk, diminuil the quantity of events. In my head,

maybe it will be a quantity of athletes that will be in that organization. For other side, he has been able to the number of events in the total, between the two organizations. He will do the events So he could be he can pick the

athletes that that would be figurating just on Belator and he do this backlash this cross-promotion really between

the Belator and the NFL and vice versa so we'll wait to see what what will happen, I think now it's time

to take calm and observe this shacklead that will have in the scenario of sport by the way that was

explained it appears like a mark international that will be in events around

of the world, promoting the athletes, there's a disputed of the conturon, and so, who can't

know, there's a thing that's a lot of decades, and never did a event in the

event in the Brazil, now, who know, the mark Bellator has been, the fact,

a, like, a roteer international that pertains the PFR, and who know,

now he's right, and then we get in the factativeness also, that the pasteries that the Belaator

had, so maintain. The Belator it happened in Italy, he rode over in Europe, Dublin. The proper Balator

contra RISE, he was an event very important so I hope and I believe that these will be for me

what does it's the new news to this new news to the Belator will be a realto be a non-o-o-

out of the content American so I'm I'm feeling in the perspective of that we're

we're in this announcement of the Junction and And, it's,

and I'm in my part same, with a thing you said about what you said, you know, that they don't the division of the

way, how is it you know, you, a principle, you know, in the Bealato,

because they will have your category, but the PFL, not there, the of the

money, is just the person, it's all the idea, to see, no, the Pesco

in a bellator, but, maybe, limit you, you, you can't you can't eventually,

unless they they're, to be to participate to the tournament of a million of dollars, that is what they always

they always will continue limited to the number of divisions that they have in actualment. So, this question, I don't see,

maybe, as they don't have many many, and now with a junction with a bellator, maybe they

are this category, but where I understand, today, we're going to be now PFL,

right? For the most that was that that I was that I think I was saying, So, I can

pick a manna, who was a girl, and to look into the PLL, understand,

not necessarily that I have to be able to get to beletor. This also was a question that I was talking, and

me explained, and me explained, but I think that not will have the tournament of a million of dollars.

But, but I think it's very little time for the question to say, to get to

right, in the fact you have to see what going to happen to see what this tournament with the

time with a new year with a juncture with a bunch of men there's a category pesum Mosque

and can to do do a bell of a event there's there's the

know of the world of the Europe that can that can put up in this

tournament I think in the moment I actually what what the what is what you really

to be the FFL get a little fechated they're going to get many of the athletes of the name there's the

Johnny Ebelin that's the champion of the Belator there's the finalized the last year he's a

two guys of the name pet mix is a phenomenal excellent platoor the sergey peres

has been there's there's over name the guy there's there's there's

there's great lute so if they if they're kept in other divisions they can

they can't are important to side of the marketing, also are excellent suitors, and have a

piece of non-inted into those divisions in the world whole, I think they they're not other categories,

because if not it would have been doing their own a bellator, right, to be a idea of them,

I think the idea of them is really to be a grand event, so I think that this,

this, this abetura this abetura this, I don't with Julianna, I think that's it would be in the

idea they'd be the matter of and to make these people of great names of great relevance of the foreign. I believe

that they're some some type of modification in conduct of the organizations for that maintain all this

personal and I think that's no that's any people, to be able to keep this and to

the car of the bellator the name of these people, not far as the reason for this

thing to me I'm curious also to be curious to know how they're going to deal with

the user of the people are the money they're giving a payment in the tourneau

you're paid conforms the time as the classification and the Belato not the

but the lotator has a lotator has a own a box

a full-off the foreign part and the tournament more cases and that's

a doubt that I was a question is Julianne, that not this playoff, at least

for there's no way, but in the case, for you're more interesting what?

To do you, do you do this long the career, or would be the ball a tour,

or would be a in a GP this of the PFF? In fact for me. The contract,

I think it should be been done in a tournament or not, and the my boss, it's a

business, it's a first time, the first time, so, first time, the first time, and preem

final, the the bolsa should be maintained contractualment so for me not interferes

but I'm curious with the other we're going to do you want to be but I'm a guy with 36 years,

a guy very experienced rodated a we see especially in the NFL in these tournaments

that they do you know generally the people are more new and there there's there's

some there's so you but you you're at this time of your

career if you think that for you does more sense to

do two two great luts for a year, or if it's a way to be in a GP, because there's

any other you can't do you can't make a lot of a lot of a lot of you can't have a piece

no risk much great for a little bit of money, but the money on the final of the market of you

get to get to a guy that's no car that in my case, for me, it's more the lot of little bit of

those That would be this next Luton of the BFR, say, yeah, that's going to be going to be a champion, it's a champion, so for me, it's more sense of this magnitude.

But when I enter in the GP, I encounter all the lute, I'm in a stitoral, I encounter all the a little of a defense of the title. So, for me, I don't,

I don't, I don't really a serious, this thing to win the GP, I'm a serious, the thing to win the next lute. So,

so I have to win the next lute. So, for me, it's a, title or more. If I put on a patamade where I have to confronts 16 nutters, I'm going to get a bit of a bit of a lot of, carl, I'm going to get into 16 guys.

Nobody's known. But I enter as if I was going to, the next degree is the most important. Passed the degrade. The next degrade is the most important, and so, so, and so far as it's going to be. So, for me, I count to have to be the

future. It's a little way, because your commission, No, Bellator, was this format, exactly, to do the year, every year, every year, every year different, it was always always redoubt. You'd be to be able to get a spouted at this centuron and it would be in this

cycle of the end. And this is my curiosity to know how they're going to lead to these lunders, yeah, that are the champions of the Belator, right? That now will be to the platoon of the NFL, too. And you, Joe, you like this idea of a tournament, if they're doing in the future,

or you prefer to do superlutas, gain a lot, and gain a spout of a stuntoron? We don't know how it's of disputes of a stintanao in but you like this format to learn a

little of Judo then you do a little after the other and win at who may in who be in who yeah

I'm in who have been being prepared for to be being put up to my way to me MMA

so I think I think I have a curiosity so I think to be a champion of a tournament of a tournament

because of the judo really is going a championship, I think it would be interesting, yeah,

I don't have, so there's this event, so there's no tourne no, no, no, yes.

So I think the pesum musk even not never never never had, no female no,

depending on the category, I think it would be interesting, but if if there to be also

there's been also, I think it's interesting to do super, luthas lotes

interesting, too, pick, athletes, I'm are nominated to to do a great

a great event you're doing both are making of the problem of the health how are

the previsal the expectative of when you are free to make your next few I'm doing

I'm a middle of I'm in the third month now I'm doing musculation

liberated I've been able for two two months to go back to

come back with the adversaries more less than than I

getting guillotined, to push the head to back back, some of the movements for a while still being

respected, but I just know that's in pre-kem with the announcement of the Bannataour

and that in February, will have the disposed of champions, so I'm now a kind of

a speck camp, which are four weeks, that are the second a camp

in eight seven, so I'm two-s two-smoner in total, and now I'm in this

period, just with the person the postcoce forte, the mobility, without

is a compromised with no, without limitation of movement, without formigament, and recuperating the force that not brought totally. The my force of the right-of-the-brace-square,

it's a pass in a moment complete, but not not totally recuperated. So, in this period in two in a month, I think it will be all okay, and I'm

sure. And you, Joe, how are you? You're more recent? You're more recent, you have been, you know,

has been a idea of, you know, to liberation of the measures to when it's possible. Oh, I'm

liberated to return to learn more less left like I have a disanation

the abdomen so I have to start some of little but the rest of

my exams were negative for a bacteria that that can be

in my my body in my body they say colonized because I never

never never problem of furunco these things and

this year I I've many many furuncus one after

the other So, now we did a time to know if I was with a

bacteria colonized in my body, did all the good, but I will continue to doing the

exams to me precave to be to front, for if if you have some something,

I have to eliminate this now, but I don't did the lot,

I'm going to see just, just just do this time

just I'm just going to go the trainings, but one more specific,

more technical, to concert to have to be concerted, even because the month next, my daughter,

yeah, day 20, yeah, is being born my fill in my fill, so, I'll be

this Reta final here to come to enjoy a little, and, yeah, if,

if, if, so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure

to be ready for this. At the February, I want to be prepared to be able to be prepared to to be a answer to

be a lot to be in a minute. You know, it's a very little son. The Patricso

know what we are talking about. For experience proper, the kid in the house and will be

very much for a moment. For sure. I'm prepared. I'm prepared but it's for a good cause,

I think to work. It's to work. Now, now, now. I'm to work

more than never. It's It's wonderful. It's good, it's good, it's good, so, this card in February, you know, you know, to find him in front

the winner of Gabriel Braga with Resus Pinedo. It's a revenge. And the realtor, how can you analyze this battle that will happen now this end of the week?

What do you think that's the other side of the Kade when you did this start in 2004? Well, we're just,

we just had the idea of that, that, that, that would be the possibility of this shock,

It's what makes when the organization is englobado by the other it's more than you get the champions and shock in their mind the head.

And I was about a lot marked in a revent of the first year of the year he got over I think it was 10-9 divided I actually

I saw this last month the lot of the lot was very very calibrated I think I'm

the last three days of some thing the Gabriel picked with three years I don't know so I can't

sometimes I will be more prepared to this combat the The lot not was easy,

it was hard for the both of the two times. And I'm in the expectative to know who

who's to know who can't be from the time of the time of the year of his time

my friend of my friend me and it's just we're we're going to get to

the we're we're going to dole to get to a battle to find out of a person

that you see you put to you've been a man kind of a kid and

again 15, 20 years then you will then you're going to confront him well, it's a

very interesting and necessary we're in a we're going to the guys that are the people who are we're doing

we're going to see, pass it by the head of I imagine that he was, I think

Diego Braga just said a boy, the boy is the man, he's he was done

by the all right, all right, all right, all right and then so, so I'm

going to be a great combat. I I thank for the opportunity, I

be the champion of the NFL, and if we did this lute, for the whole lot of the winner, will be very important. And I'd say, I'm opinion on to you. How is this junction, BFL, a bellator, put now this new organization in a dispute,

for, let's say, the domain of the MMA, the UFC, is the principal event of the world, more bellator and PFL, gained much force now with this, with this sum, the first, Joe, how you see now this new event, this new

PFL, going to front to front with the FEC, with the stars, with your champions, how you think

you think that will do a sacudita in the market in this new duel so,

you know, between organizations. Look, the NFL is a crescenting too, these are doing

in the Francis Gagnou, in the box, in the question of Jack Paul,

yeah? Yes, Jake Poe. I think they are we're taking a proportion very great with these

lotters. I think with a injunction with a bell atoll, I think the people are, now will have more names,

they're, they're, will have chance to, to show more the values, the values,

the world, the world, the, because, as I'm doing the events, I think

will be the more for the athletes, appear and, and, to show

the value, I think, that, Tend the PFL, now,

I think the proportion will be very great, it's very very great really, first, the first,

there's rumors in the many, there's many, there's many, to be curious, to see,

how it will be funerous and it and all a little that's things going

going to know, I think the PFL will be back to front

with, I think, I think, I think, it's, I think, the, I think,

I think the question of the athletes I think will have this this equality in the vision of the people,

those tele-spectators, I think will be very, very legal. And you, Patrice, who's a guy who's always

a shirt literally the shirt, and did during, for, all these years that you

have to all the narrative of the UFC is the only great event, all,

and the things always impeded these duels between organizations now it's a

very forced now that one compared to the other how you think it's that you make you

imagine to the fan that's accustomed to see this number of the

other and now see two uning getting force in this dispute

to be a team well mathematically talking you know

in kislet the luth lot the UFC also. So now, now,

as a Bellator and the NFL, it's a company just, the guys have all in the man to make this

machine to more and more. In the part midiatic, we have the YouTubers, very important of the

people, the way of local pole, doing part also of the organization, and got over the

lot of the fighters and fans of MMA, making that a great battle in box,

the best person to the box of the So, it's to me diatically

to go with the lottators to get to get to wait. We have to wait.

The first was done. The first was done, that was the organization, and now it's just.

Expects that the events international I'm I think out of the United

they're they're they're in a community, including the pasteries with

these organizations that are city-ed in Japan, in Canada, in Dublin, etc. Do you

make what it's be a greatiosk every more and that we have this cross the time entire. Lutators of

MMA confronting the other organizations and including figurating as the Ingunu now

figured it is important more to fix it to fixate of the name of the

program the path but a But, but it's a lot. The FAC is very traditional. It's an organization more ancient.

Deals of what should have done in the time certain. And with the organization. Let's see what happens. I'm curious. The people

just keep imagining there, calling those duels between champions. We don't know who will be

the champion of PFL this year, but putting there the Franz Zenganu as a representative

of the person person the person pesst person of Belator who is Ryan Bader what is the opinion of

how is the opinion of you? How are you this battle in Bega Cardi in 2004? For me, the Inganu is the, he not perished the title of the F.T.

He didn't have an accord with the organization. For me, he's tag as the major peso of the actuality.

Ryan Bede is very good, I respect, but it's for me a 9.3 Clude of Pairs Paisal. The Pets of

really, the world, is Ingun, and even, I think he is John Jones. John Jones, for me, is the best

lot of 3 that's the world whole lot of 9 3. He batted in all the country, he won't

all the other he did he did the end of the end up but he's pasted for me Gannu and he's the

manu and he was I agree I'm quite Pletka with Patrice I think Gano

for me I think it's the well, in the quality of the most the best he,

approved even in box did a a lot just of box and batheed

the front to the front with a time, so I think for me he is the most

the best he's a really good really, but I think he is a 9.3 forced out of

pesable. I, I see a dominoce almost total of the attackers of Balator.

I don't see the people of the people being inferior the people of

the AFL, no. With all the people the players the jurists too also

this is the to know who wins, but in my vision, in the theory, the majority of the Ruebella Tos are the better

than the BFA. But we're going to come in a porrada man, man. If you put you to put you to

the paper the format of Bela Tua is a format that's a person being tested out against the

champion, he will always always defend the centuron against the the tournament is

that thing there's the case, a car that is the guy that is the person who is the person who

is the person who It's very difficult. You maintain a constance, there's many other alternatives to impossibilize you to get a bit of your total in a lute.

The GP is very complicated. I'm a lot of the style different, the style different of the PFL, that is a system of pontuation, that at least, the guy, because he gained

10 seconds after the other, he don't advance because the guy gained a point in advantage for 10 seconds. I'm 100. I'm 100.

Fonda this regra. I don't understand. the guy participates in a GP he can't but I'm a lot of champion peso pen's the pen of the Belator

assist the other the NFL but I don't understand the format how is the fan will understand the format imagine the fan how can't my man

man man pass all the last one pass the next brother is no no no no one finalized

in 10 seconds no it's hard it's quite it's because they're they're because they they're

they're all the people together and go Who can get to the first round, six points, second round five, third round, four, or gain for points, three points. And the criteria of the sempatch, the criteria of the impart is who gain more rapid. If two are going to win...

It's the first of the phone. How many to put it? It's a criteria of football, of tennis, I, say, for an M.A, yeah, man, car. Mn MNia is a porrata. The guy got in the first. The other one, it's just, man. We'll go back.

We'll go back. So, it's the way to be it. no invent a rod, and the road, and the road, it's not made. And you

think that, just to we'll just that you think that's that you, sure, you've been

the last of the market and all that, but it can't know, the FC

to open the forces to doels in the future between organizations, so you

also, you think, even if the PFL, belator, most a year, 2025,

2026, to start to incommodar the UFC, they're going to this possibility. But the PFL finished an investment with the Sauditas, so they're going to injecting

much the year in the year. And you know, the people of the FCGOST, the NAWED and GOST so who can't be able to them, the guys can't like this idea? You think,

you think it's impossible that this happens in a scenario in that the UFC still the more player in the market. Dana White me

seems to this proposal this possibility that's a possible, a lot of we know that

he knows that but he seemed to be very very very leaving without

without so first we're first of we we have that the Bellator

Barra BFL BFL Bha Bha Latour is craved a force that it's impossible

to you not cogit the The guys have to do something, no, we have to co-jit to this. Not to be able to forget. So, we have to be able to do that.

The first happens. I think the past most important is this. Then, then we have to do, then we have to do other possibilities. We have to remember the time that the Pride was the main event, and the UFC not were. And Dana-Wyne-Wryt,

between the runners. But now, now are the moment. I think the guys are doing a bottom a little up a little bit. And we have to expect to really that this new mark that you turn a robot you once.

And you, Jua, there's a pingo of hope? I concording that I don't roll so so soon.

I concord that not roll so soon. Even because I think the BELA

is the F.C. Yeah, is more time in the market, I think, even,

not want to put to, like, risk, an, an athlete, a,

an, an, an, an, a, a, champion of an

other event, , new, uh, I'm doing a job for the guy the champion

of the UFC, independent of the money, I know that got much of the money, but also I think it's a little

ariskado for them. I believe really that this not not going to happen so soon. Uh huh.

Yeah, can't be that in 2012 we have more centurons, now will be diminue in possibility,

uh, because we can't have been there can't be champions in BFL and the Belator

now will be there's have to be how it will be working in the practice but I'm trying to be a year of success.

Patricio and Juliana a good recuperation for you two and that come greats in the PFL in a bellator international,

where it is that it's a great loss for you thank you. Thank you for we're trying to understand what will

what will happen in this future next in the career of you and of many other other

other other thank you that's expectation we're in our expectation we're we're ready

for our for the Julianna will have a little bit of but come to

we're talking in the internment to try and plan to resolve this then we're resolving so yeah

let's get a pro when it good are good is that's yeah

that's good whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever let's

yeah sure it's sure with the phone of she'll Bertha.

Thank you. Thank you. More one one way, thank you. Thank you for to open the post,

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