MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Brasileira desafia Amanda Nunes + Vicente Luque, Ariane Lipski, Augusto Sakai e Delan Monte

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

Amanda Nunes retomou o posto de campeã dupla do UFC ao passar por cima de Julianna Peña em revanche, e o Trocação Franca debate tudo o que rolou no UFC 277 na companhia de Zeca Azevedo, repórter ...do Combate que cobriu o evento direto do Texas. O podcast também recebe Ketlen Vieira, possível adversária da “Leoa” pelo cinturão, que lançou um desafio à campeã. Na sessão Fight Week, entrevistas com Vicente Luque, Ariane Lipski, Augusto Sakai e Delan Monte, que entram em ação nos próximas dias no UFC e PFL. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Amanda Nunes is once again a two-division UFC champion after running through Julianna Peña in a rematch, and Trocação Franca breaks down everything that went down at UFC 277 with Combate’s Zeca Azevedo, who was in Texas to cover the event. The podcast also chats with Ketlen Vieira, who called for a shot at “The Lioness’” bantamweight title. The Fight Week portion of the episode features interviews with Vicente Luque, Ariane Lipski, Augusto Sakai and Delan Monte, who compete at the upcoming UFC and PFL cards. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:13 Cruz. Hello, Lu, a friend of 29 episode of the podcast Trocaceauqua to make a
Starting point is 00:02:36 a newfound this immense podosphere. I'm Glearm Correspondent of the site American M.M.A.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Firee. I'm in this quarter Friday, in the company of Kettling Vierra, Vicely,
Starting point is 00:02:46 Viscke, Augusta, Geli, and Delamont. But, before I'm going to have to talk to W. W.C. 277,
Starting point is 00:02:53 that had the retention of Manan Nunes, to pass by over the Julia Pena and reconquisting the centuron of the gals and to
Starting point is 00:02:59 return the status of campaign dupe of the FACC. And to talk about the last week of the week, Zedka Zerbeard, the major Bayano of M.A. that was in Texas to cover the event with the combat. All right, my my friend, my friend, my name, my view, well,
Starting point is 00:03:12 thank you for the convict. Well, the, my a leo, a leo-o. Yeah, a few a week, a week, the end of the Mayans, then.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Perfect, perfect. You were, you were there, you're talking the time of the night the rebenation
Starting point is 00:03:32 of Amanda Nunes, bringing to back the Cintoron Pesugalo to Brazil I'd
Starting point is 00:03:36 your perspective there, we all knew the atropelo about about Julia Pania but you
Starting point is 00:03:42 was you was there was there Amanda in the days in the last year
Starting point is 00:03:46 the last time the Amanda Penaena on her how they were they were
Starting point is 00:03:53 to see to the the Yeah, I was it was, I was it more than you imagine about what you imagined? The atropilo, the, let's, let's I was see the finality of the Amanda, I'd expect a victory of the Amanda, not evera everixta that also not me
Starting point is 00:04:21 surprise when Amanda because it's a lotator that abhorred much
Starting point is 00:04:25 the world world and what the people say about she says she
Starting point is 00:04:31 and she want to she want to she revivivar so so
Starting point is 00:04:36 not me surprise the strategy but not was a thing
Starting point is 00:04:40 obviously I expected a superiority but I think the
Starting point is 00:04:46 I atropel what I of the the last yearn, she came to a lot of a lot of the finalization in the second round, you know, maybe he, no, ceremonial, was the
Starting point is 00:05:22 posture of Amanda and the postura of Juliana. They were very close in the back doors.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And the Julianna was with a child, was playing and not was pretty not much
Starting point is 00:05:31 preston on what was going to the hand-bank a car-banked with an o'clock
Starting point is 00:05:39 a signblant-feched a Nina, was a woman and the girl and the
Starting point is 00:05:44 woman and the she, she she, she she, she, she didn't she was
Starting point is 00:05:49 She was concentrated. And then when she came to the exclusive there, she was in her own and Evelyn, with her own reporter, the Amanda,
Starting point is 00:05:59 she said, but you saw that the focus of her not was there. She was the semblance focused, and we're going to,
Starting point is 00:06:08 what, what is that what this means? After the the lot, that we're going to
Starting point is 00:06:12 know, so, the concentration it's, that the thing, she, she,
Starting point is 00:06:17 she's, the air, not not being thinking that's what's going to be concerned
Starting point is 00:06:21 about about or then then you're going to be you know it's like that he was
Starting point is 00:06:28 always being used being being being the but you could think it
Starting point is 00:06:33 not she could think she she comes being being without
Starting point is 00:06:39 she she was she she was she she
Starting point is 00:06:45 was she was she was very focused so so The results I think
Starting point is 00:06:49 not surprised I think the majority expected a victory of a victory of Amanda, so that she was a
Starting point is 00:06:55 favorite, but it really was impressive as long the month, in the first, in the first
Starting point is 00:07:00 interview, she was getting, gave an interview for a person and then, it was
Starting point is 00:07:07 moving, you see how it was moving the focus of the lotator and Julianna no,
Starting point is 00:07:11 it apparent the same semblance along the a week. The Alex
Starting point is 00:07:17 Potan, conversed with me on the podcast some weeks and he said he said about the
Starting point is 00:07:22 idea of the idea of he said, no, because I wanted to wince for five rounds, I'd
Starting point is 00:07:27 want to be five rounds, and he said that no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:07:31 no, I want to wince for points, I'm going to do a knockdown, I'm going to make the
Starting point is 00:07:37 car to get the and then Amanda Nures said that she said, that she
Starting point is 00:07:40 did because she did wines to because he to show that it's better. You
Starting point is 00:07:44 think she did she or that she didn't know not quite she did five knockdowns in the penia and
Starting point is 00:07:51 not it not as if she gave a knockdown and a daughter to get her she went to her head
Starting point is 00:07:57 in the car of her like it but you you think that she she actually she
Starting point is 00:08:03 she didn't knowcaughtia because he passed a record with this victory of 25
Starting point is 00:08:09 minutes I don't I don't I don't I think she that she's that she's I think it
Starting point is 00:08:18 does some does some it makes some something because I think when when they they said
Starting point is 00:08:25 she had had six rounds then she said she said she she's that she it's that
Starting point is 00:08:32 it's that it's I think she she has it she has it's she has a motivation
Starting point is 00:08:37 so when when when when when the Juliano finalize her in
Starting point is 00:08:42 the second round I'm some know some superiority there I think
Starting point is 00:08:46 that this does Amanda want to try I'm I think
Starting point is 00:08:51 she she she she she she does so I think she
Starting point is 00:08:56 would be a round if a man enter in the fact of
Starting point is 00:09:03 the fact of her the fact of she'd do you know three rounds levando
Starting point is 00:09:07 perigo on the I don't know what the style of the style of the style of the trotation
Starting point is 00:09:12 of the julian is a little difficult because the lotator is that the model
Starting point is 00:09:17 kind of a bit more a bit of a bar exactly exactly so that also
Starting point is 00:09:22 this also you can't avoid this game also she over there
Starting point is 00:09:27 was over various risks on and she yeah and
Starting point is 00:09:29 she'd and everybody everybody people people and there
Starting point is 00:09:31 all car no caltee you know finalize or maintain a Lute in
Starting point is 00:09:39 Pett and she would leave to the ground, but it would continue to the I think it's true she's
Starting point is 00:09:47 to try a point and that she was superior that is Juliana in all the areas and for me
Starting point is 00:09:54 she really is superior a Julianna in all the areas including in a Lottagrata too
Starting point is 00:09:59 actually she is a athlete a very good everybody everybody already knew that was
Starting point is 00:10:03 yeah that that a lot It was very strange because Amanda Nunes started much
Starting point is 00:10:09 better, was sobrived was a time in the second round and that it was just it was
Starting point is 00:10:15 a turn to talk about in the pen and inspired was a lot of the emotion
Starting point is 00:10:20 made you the question she made against her she made her she was to put
Starting point is 00:10:25 to put to the pooradaria and it was finalized a finalization
Starting point is 00:10:28 strange because not something something something didn't the
Starting point is 00:10:34 didn't the Ganchos there, and it was all the long of the time during the whole of the
Starting point is 00:10:37 last year, and this the way of she was in the way of the girl of the Julianna has been in the
Starting point is 00:10:44 story will be able to get a manna Nuneh, that's a fact, questionable.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's like she was a game again, a threat super experience with a holy home
Starting point is 00:10:54 or something of this type. You think that this lot, she shows what she,
Starting point is 00:10:58 she makes that that that that that was a, a a conjunction of
Starting point is 00:11:05 factors that led Julianna had she was she was she was not that was
Starting point is 00:11:12 she didn't not ever not ever I think when we when we look for the lotator
Starting point is 00:11:18 Julianna and Amanda for me it's a a goal of the destiny that's
Starting point is 00:11:25 that moment that circumstance now you can you enter you can you can
Starting point is 00:11:31 a man I think she she felt the Amanda always was a lotator dominant in this series of
Starting point is 00:11:38 victories of she was she was and the man went in a way in this lot of she
Starting point is 00:11:44 she felt what she she said not a 100 to have a camp ball
Starting point is 00:11:50 to be to be with a knee but but even even
Starting point is 00:11:55 man the man entered and for me the error crucial was that she
Starting point is 00:11:59 she said she committed exactly the that Chris Boyle committed contra her. Her hand
Starting point is 00:12:05 and she went in an instinct to go to go back up and took more a bunch of a mousada and not
Starting point is 00:12:10 the quech not went to. So for me the Juliana got with all the merit she made a hand
Starting point is 00:12:18 on Amanda derubed and finalized and got it's incestionable the victory of Julianna now
Starting point is 00:12:27 now. Now, in a scenario 100% and with Amanda more cerebral,
Starting point is 00:12:33 as I think she was in this lot, I don't have to because if a mom
Starting point is 00:12:38 comes in a mann't into this it's not, she went to and then she had haggrava and then
Starting point is 00:12:45 another other style of a other I said I have a second I need
Starting point is 00:12:52 I need I think she was intelligent in this but she was there was
Starting point is 00:12:57 some the Amanda this this new a team minorzina, focused on with trainers
Starting point is 00:13:05 specific, because they're just with her from her, from her from the American Toppchin. I think it's
Starting point is 00:13:10 very soon to note some some difference in this sense. You were with her and said
Starting point is 00:13:16 with her team, and did you to see a great difference? Or have to have a
Starting point is 00:13:21 time a next a lot, to see how is a man in this process
Starting point is 00:13:24 another last last when we when we asked about about this
Starting point is 00:13:29 she said, the schedule is practically the same, so I think she, she she understood that that
Starting point is 00:13:37 that's that plan of game, that she had in America Top Team functioned. She was
Starting point is 00:13:46 she continued using that plan, the quantity of the quantity of training, exactly what
Starting point is 00:13:51 she has to train, how she has to train, it's moved the body,
Starting point is 00:13:56 the body human, but the planishment, the quantity of trains, what she has to train, where she needs to train, where she needs to train, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Now, one thing that's that's the attention is that these people, in the entom of her, they were not there, povoing, and,
Starting point is 00:14:15 appearing here, appearing here, I, I don't see Amanda with with the team of her. In the semester, in the backstores,
Starting point is 00:14:24 was Nina and was Reagan, a person who was I'd work with them, helping him to care, and it was
Starting point is 00:14:31 the trainer. The trainers were in a moment that had to appear. I don't know if this also also, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:40 the Amanda is the focus, Amanda is a star, I don't have, no, there's, the focus is
Starting point is 00:14:49 all in there, and the guys just were when had to appear I think of the thing was in
Starting point is 00:14:55 the preparation The people are the people are more making the people are making, making a man to to appear
Starting point is 00:15:04 I think I think I had a little in the other team of the interview and say I'm I'm saying I'm
Starting point is 00:15:10 and say this is this pass on long and as someone who's in the most vehicle
Starting point is 00:15:19 of the Brazil of MMA see the how many the event movement
Starting point is 00:15:24 when you have a lot a great, it's a much more access, the global sports.com,
Starting point is 00:15:28 it's a more more space, the TV too. This is a victory of Amanda. You think
Starting point is 00:15:32 is a victory that is a virada in terms of popularity in the Brazil, because we
Starting point is 00:15:38 know that he's known here in Brazil, but not very much people, the public
Starting point is 00:15:42 even, fan of MMA, you think, reconquist the citron, everyone likes a
Starting point is 00:15:46 redension, a story of redemption, not, but it's to get but, but do
Starting point is 00:15:50 back to get the You can't even to perceive this in these few days that passed from the
Starting point is 00:15:58 lot, or have to have a job and maybe it's even the time of I've done with her
Starting point is 00:16:03 podcast here in May, I asked about not being very good in Brazil, she said, she she's
Starting point is 00:16:10 not she doesn't more, that she she's her life she is in the life she not,
Starting point is 00:16:15 patience, if not she doesn't if you feel some some kind of some with this
Starting point is 00:16:20 victory, she, she'd, it's, or not. It has to be a part of a more organic, like to conquest,
Starting point is 00:16:25 but have to have also the participation at of her to give to Brazil, to talk Portuguese in the order to do a
Starting point is 00:16:33 interview. How is your perception after this victory in the pen? I think what she said
Starting point is 00:16:40 to you before the last time the sentiment of this issue, when we go to
Starting point is 00:16:50 the comments before the other the other the other the other the end up
Starting point is 00:16:54 it's always a question question of it really is a thing that really is nobody is
Starting point is 00:17:01 that there there's a one of a want a man and and I think she
Starting point is 00:17:07 she was she kind of kind of of all what is what I going to
Starting point is 00:17:13 I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:17:17 the money is the My family is well, is happy, is all right, for what I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:17:24 at all the way to be able to do you know, I don't know the numbers of a number of a covertura with Amanda were very good and obviously, as you don't have to media this now
Starting point is 00:17:42 qualitatively. The people are torsing a favor of them? The people are they're talking about it. Let's see if Amanda her perde here. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So, in certain a measure, not there's no, it's a good
Starting point is 00:17:56 for the bad or for the bad. But in the final of the important,
Starting point is 00:18:00 she's there, she's in a disack, she's doing the audience,
Starting point is 00:18:04 she's she's being, it's being so, I think, I'm
Starting point is 00:18:09 not really, she not talking about, I'm doing a man, I'm doing, I'm I'll give more interview.
Starting point is 00:18:19 There was a question. I was there. I was going to respondent this Portuguese. She responded in English. Someone commented, ah, no, the FCPA that pete, but I don't know. I think, I maybe
Starting point is 00:18:31 me explained, I was, ah, the public, American, there, if responded to Portuguese, they'd be creating a bad want to,
Starting point is 00:18:41 she was trying to get, in some form, the public with a Juliana, and was more or a half a
Starting point is 00:18:47 middle, she received a Vaya but also she said she said in English for cause
Starting point is 00:18:53 of this but I'm despite of having been a little frustrated there, in the
Starting point is 00:18:59 fact I wanted to she would she were to who was to this Portuguese people
Starting point is 00:19:06 people know and people understand without any but but it
Starting point is 00:19:12 that is it I think she's that she not very very very
Starting point is 00:19:15 this is this this order of life the Amanda really she
Starting point is 00:19:18 really she's a lot of and are good for this and
Starting point is 00:19:23 to be a person that I think she any any any
Starting point is 00:19:27 any any she absolutely but this fact of
Starting point is 00:19:33 she she or not in Brazil and she she
Starting point is 00:19:36 she she she she also the the fact
Starting point is 00:19:42 the there also there the like the bros. The Brailleers Odeo-Machda-noisse. Not a word
Starting point is 00:19:47 Not a lot of the word. Many people go. Many people toss in favor and there's a part that critic it. It's a part that you critic Aldo, how critique the barragee. Enfrey, it's part also. With a
Starting point is 00:20:00 second part of Amman, there, there's a Ketlin Viera that's been in a victory victory, but there a great lutee that could be made, that trilogy of her with a Valentina Chief Tjama, that she gained
Starting point is 00:20:11 the two first, were on the a lot of the other than the decisions. Valentina, Desiard who's the purpose of Mojewish, he's not going to filletarding all right. If you were, the Dana White, would have this cabelo, marvellous and there would have this cabloor and Amanda, it's a badenna and Amanda. I think that's the lot that the fan of MMA, I would be,
Starting point is 00:20:44 I'd have a want to see, there's nobody in the person, no there
Starting point is 00:20:49 nobody to say, a no Rouser, that's a future, to be to do a
Starting point is 00:20:55 fight with a lot of the American, but she'd have no no Pesopena, there's waiting the
Starting point is 00:21:04 chance of her chance, that I think there has a chance, a merceidore of this
Starting point is 00:21:07 chance in Pesu-Galor, but as, thinking, as the company, obviously,
Starting point is 00:21:14 not render even 10% of what will render Valentina Shevchenko and Amanda in the UNIS 3.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I think it's a lot that is a manna, because it always in this
Starting point is 00:21:27 game of all the world who the world, so the Valentina won't
Starting point is 00:21:33 I think the Valentina as this comments until today that the
Starting point is 00:21:38 Valentina does make render obviously the interest of her
Starting point is 00:21:40 questioning the other luts. So I think the fight, that the fan is Vee, that the Dan
Starting point is 00:21:49 will gain a camion of the money, and that maybe Amanda said that would
Starting point is 00:21:54 say, obviously, in a scenario that's financially to her, I think the lot
Starting point is 00:22:00 that can happen in a sequence, I, I, Valentina and Amanda 3,
Starting point is 00:22:05 I think is the who is what's when he not, when he not, when he's
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's a good signal. And, boy, even more, after the time we've seen, we've seen, this is a moment to do you know,
Starting point is 00:22:18 this is a moment of to do you. The moment of it's a chance. The Amanda did you but she could reconquisting the
Starting point is 00:22:24 title, so it's really to do it. So, the Valentina almost per to get a to Rueb
Starting point is 00:22:30 to Rottel to Relyt she's just, they're going to go out a possible superluta, a rarraulte between the women,
Starting point is 00:22:40 to be to be this is a moment, because you don't do it, who you know, if you know, it's a kind of a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:44 a lot of a lot of or Amanda Nunes, gain more to say, Tatekettler or any other,
Starting point is 00:22:49 and be there you're still, you know, so you're still, the St. Pierre, and Anderson, the time is all my name,
Starting point is 00:22:57 it's not my MMA, yeah, passed, it's not more sense, nobody who doesn't, nobody,
Starting point is 00:23:01 so, so I think it that's a lot that makes sense, I'm sure that happens. Also,
Starting point is 00:23:07 so, of the other lutes of this Ricardo principal of the FC 277,
Starting point is 00:23:13 no we've had the central interino the brenno Morenno getting very very of
Starting point is 00:23:17 Kikara Franci a be a bell knockout with that the goal in the court and now, practically sacramentando
Starting point is 00:23:24 that will have the quarter with a Diversson Figuero the other three-lutts
Starting point is 00:23:29 were very good, and this victory of Brando Mora on Sauts that is
Starting point is 00:23:33 a great a great leader, it's to you can't that we can't be
Starting point is 00:23:39 There are O'Berna Moreno, going to train with Charles of the Bronx. What do you expect of this fourth duel? First, what I'm what called attention
Starting point is 00:23:50 about this issue was the bad Voughton with Davidson. Karak, it was impressive. Not only the Dano White,
Starting point is 00:23:59 the proper Joe Rogger was the event, doing a sacanialed a little Davidson, saying that the Cintrote d'Irino would be the
Starting point is 00:24:07 realeer champion Like, what is this, Cabece just Cabece just Covee just over this guy? It's a bigadier
Starting point is 00:24:14 No, pa, it's like, it's impressive how they want to create a narrative that
Starting point is 00:24:21 convain, yeah, the reality absolute is that the Davidson solvour this category
Starting point is 00:24:26 you know? The Brandon Morano just had before the Davidson and never
Starting point is 00:24:32 was the guy that he left on the he was the
Starting point is 00:24:36 The Davidson is a guy that empolga the Pesomuska, not that there are other the platoj for example empolg,
Starting point is 00:24:43 the brando was an great victory. Now, what the Davidson introduced for this category
Starting point is 00:24:51 and one other the other the other the other the end up he did you know, finalizing
Starting point is 00:24:58 but but really But you're the charisma was a talent but he didn't have the charisma
Starting point is 00:25:05 that he didn't have, no. If the Davidson says English, it was a tropeal.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Because, and I don't understand the bad a bad advantage, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:14 But it's that American, there's a Mexican, who is a man who is a
Starting point is 00:25:19 popular, he was lot on Texas, a community Mexican is a
Starting point is 00:25:24 big long, disparated there, and batting with Derek Lewis in
Starting point is 00:25:29 no, no carism and to attract the fans. So,
Starting point is 00:25:34 so, to make sense in that moment now I don't I don't understand
Starting point is 00:25:39 the dispreas to you could inaltece the brand or to think that he was the moment
Starting point is 00:25:45 of his but I don't understand this bad the Joe Rogan of other
Starting point is 00:25:51 people with Jason now and it and it will enter to the first
Starting point is 00:25:57 this quarter lute not it's the first tetralogia of the history
Starting point is 00:26:01 of the F. and with three that were super-impulgant. The Davidson, promising to be a little more cerebral, and he
Starting point is 00:26:11 said to, to find a legal, to see a lot technical, studied, like was the initial of the Dara France with with the Moreno,
Starting point is 00:26:20 but I think that when he comes to be, he only, he's my ball can't be the ball can't, he's the guy
Starting point is 00:26:25 to go to call-e-e- and-all, see-abre, too, and a-troca- -troca-franca. I don't
Starting point is 00:26:31 see if we, if, if, the, you can, you can He can start trying be a little more
Starting point is 00:26:36 calteloso, but in the order that the moment I think he goes to see, no way, and even the same guy
Starting point is 00:26:42 four ways in the same because the Brandon Moreno did this pitstop with a guy in Caracas would say,
Starting point is 00:26:49 he's four days of a car, he's not in he's in a man, he's not, he'd be
Starting point is 00:26:56 not, if he could be if he could if he could if he could put, another lutz will me
Starting point is 00:27:01 do the same the same I think he would like he would like to go out of
Starting point is 00:27:06 the other or the guy France, as he's like he was a manned
Starting point is 00:27:11 the guy who he's not to say you know he's there's he's he don't want to
Starting point is 00:27:17 because of this can't be I'm I'm not three times with
Starting point is 00:27:21 I just just he's other guy in front so he's other
Starting point is 00:27:24 preparation just study other other job and it does
Starting point is 00:27:28 make sense he would also And the Pantoja, that in the same card, passed for the over the last year,
Starting point is 00:27:36 finalized on a matalion rapid in the first round, after a start, a two hundred per hour. You think the Pantoges, could be the guy to be able to Morrowane? I think he has
Starting point is 00:27:48 all the arms for this. The proper Davidson then, he said, oh, I hope to see the Pantogne the day champion of Peso Mosca. It's a guy is a gooder for
Starting point is 00:27:59 the world and maybe for this also don't gain your chance because as a he's not
Starting point is 00:28:06 you don't can't get to get a much long being being gentle
Starting point is 00:28:09 and then after the he went to put to out to he said was a little
Starting point is 00:28:14 but but I think he is the guy he has the he got
Starting point is 00:28:19 he got the he he did a lot a
Starting point is 00:28:24 battle he did he got a car France also
Starting point is 00:28:27 in the tuff Exactly, exactly. So, like, when you put this all right, this guy could be the champion, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:35 naturally. So, not, not, not so it's surprising, or if Pantorje, to get,
Starting point is 00:28:40 the, if this were the scenario, even, that's the same, that happens, not many people, doubting
Starting point is 00:28:46 that's bad this pig, but, Botox, he said, he said, he said, he's,
Starting point is 00:28:52 he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, I don't know if it was a better
Starting point is 00:28:59 to value this investment, Deson. Is it a lot of a harmonization facial? For that he was that in that that's why not. Is it going to
Starting point is 00:29:11 ask you to ask you? I'm going to ask you. Talking of rochino redone, no peso peso-pessed, there was the Derec, he was the Derecouye
Starting point is 00:29:21 Pavlovich, which was another situation that the Donoite discashor, criticing the interruption of the arve and and all, what you
Starting point is 00:29:30 you thought? You thought that pared certain or you thought could have had been to be able to have done
Starting point is 00:29:37 to eliminate any any more? I think could be in this way, I'd have there was
Starting point is 00:29:42 two, three second-s no not to the Eric Lewis and also
Starting point is 00:29:49 also took a this debate, I think could have had I'd have been left, now,
Starting point is 00:29:55 it was a robber, no-se-k I think pass away this. The guy was just
Starting point is 00:30:00 just just to just be a position, deitado there in the town. So he,
Starting point is 00:30:05 for me, did the margin to parer, obviously, that if if it would be
Starting point is 00:30:09 a bit too, but I think he don't have been this drama
Starting point is 00:30:14 totally. Not a not the not first he took a knock-dahl in some of
Starting point is 00:30:18 some he can get to work, he can't get this you're, you're just
Starting point is 00:30:24 you're taking the chance of the arbiter interrompe the the lute, but I think, I think, I'd have
Starting point is 00:30:29 have been a more, because it would be a bit more, not it's a time if the car to be, put, to do you know,
Starting point is 00:30:47 a minute, and then, por, that's air, oh, boy, it's air, oh, when it was, that's, you know, more than you, I'd do not even though to doxas,
Starting point is 00:30:52 because, it's the house of his and it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a
Starting point is 00:30:56 problem, and he's about to think, the last the last three derotas there were three knockouts
Starting point is 00:31:02 in Texas in one he did he two in Texas were in a car were in a cause
Starting point is 00:31:08 he was going because he was in Texas he had been no, but do he said
Starting point is 00:31:14 he said he's not but the F.C. F.C. F. Feremending this
Starting point is 00:31:18 all, let him let him try him in Card. Let's get a money on the way there. But the frustration
Starting point is 00:31:25 of the guy was really great after the time that the time that the last the guy was
Starting point is 00:31:31 the guy was insane and decided and then we were sitting at the end of octagon
Starting point is 00:31:38 in the when the Pablovich went to all the sitting observing the reaction
Starting point is 00:31:45 the the reaction of the I think the recs of everyone was someone
Starting point is 00:31:50 was someone Cope of Cervece, people. Exactly. But there were ones that were to get a hand to
Starting point is 00:31:56 and they were all, it was all all over all over but the frustration of the torsida
Starting point is 00:32:02 was a condition decid when when it when I'm imagine man, I'm
Starting point is 00:32:08 before we want to get your poppitch rapid for the FC the next
Starting point is 00:32:12 the next Saturday about will there will there Chaggo Marrita against
Starting point is 00:32:18 this lot of this lot there? I go of Marretta in the Torcida, you know, I think that's like to like to hear of
Starting point is 00:32:26 the Marretta well, and I think it's a guy that has much to contribute even, so, not just torsida, as I think the conditions,
Starting point is 00:32:37 it's not going to be a lot farce, but we're going to Marrita. Maria, now I'm going to talk with a Keatley-Liviera that is another
Starting point is 00:32:44 great interest in this victory of Amanda Nunes, but I'd thank you to thank you to thank you very to ZECA by the class of MMA
Starting point is 00:32:49 that he gave us here. It's very my friend my friend for you're going to do
Starting point is 00:32:53 your merchant in the radio social, where the people can learn the works of
Starting point is 00:32:57 the arts of the art that you see the after the Guilard and Guilerm Cruz
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't not, I don't know who can I'm a guy a real social
Starting point is 00:33:08 but what is a great disperdisse if the world sobes if the
Starting point is 00:33:13 who who who who ever the be the beauty that
Starting point is 00:33:16 this person man, I would explore much more on Instagram a social
Starting point is 00:33:20 that would would be up in the bolsa if Zeka if Zekha had been there
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm going I'm going I'm going be able to this type of thing in the comment
Starting point is 00:33:30 I'm maybe for this I don't do that I'm but that's
Starting point is 00:33:37 Arbazca underline general my tweet is where I'm put some some
Starting point is 00:33:41 Bobad yeah thank thank you thank you for the public everybody
Starting point is 00:33:45 wonderful. From the other side of the line, we have Kefflin Vieira, one of the most interested in this lute principal of the FC 277 that rolled in the last Saturday,
Starting point is 00:34:00 in Texas, uh, in your chance for the centuron, Amanda Nunes, passed for the crown, and you just
Starting point is 00:34:06 went to the social, do you know, depended your cause and, and I paid your chance to the first, what you
Starting point is 00:34:13 think you did that this lot, in Texas, the result was what you expected? The performance of Amanda
Starting point is 00:34:18 was what you expected, or saw a something different than you was a different than you were imagining? So I thought was a great
Starting point is 00:34:24 lot, with certainly the performance of Amanda was what I expected. I think the first little she gave a
Starting point is 00:34:32 a cancad in a Nile and maybe if maybe prepared, then she said she said she said she
Starting point is 00:34:38 got COVID and suffered a lesown so she she was done a can't but she for this
Starting point is 00:34:44 look now we've seen that she was more more focused too I think this The derrota
Starting point is 00:34:49 made re-ascending the chama that she was and I found a great
Starting point is 00:34:55 lot. You see some some different in Amanda that you can't attribute
Starting point is 00:35:01 the troca the academy of her having made a top team and have
Starting point is 00:35:06 a camp and abet a team focused in her or you
Starting point is 00:35:12 think that not that is much soon to maybe to identify
Starting point is 00:35:15 a a a newdance, attributing to this in the sense? So, now I think that it's very
Starting point is 00:35:22 soon to be able to be able to be the next time, we'll start to see more more,
Starting point is 00:35:31 it's a time, you know, to get this a great difference, so, but I could see the Amanda of the end of wanting to be
Starting point is 00:35:42 a campaigner. She gave an interview after the in a lot of the collective, saying that not was knockoutia, that not quite didn't finalize, that the intent of her, was to becky to dominate, like passing a recad, like, passing a recad,
Starting point is 00:35:53 with a victory, making that the first maybe had been sort, maybe, I don't know, you know, you? You think this, exists, of fact, that, you're, an athlete, you, like, it, possible you enter in a lot of a lot of and not want to knockoutia and finalize,
Starting point is 00:36:07 or maybe it's a, maybe a discompa, for not have been, to be able to knockoutia or, maybe, finalize, a Juena pen? So, as you I can't say for me, that's the way,
Starting point is 00:36:18 that's what she said, but I think when we enter there, I, for me, I want to to come to the last rapid possible,
Starting point is 00:36:25 I believe on that what who can not does take, I think that all the athlete and wants to get to
Starting point is 00:36:31 get to get more the more possible, but we always always, we're always
Starting point is 00:36:36 another athlete, so well, sometimes the lot of going to go and I think the
Starting point is 00:36:43 My team, too, the M. Dada, you say to me that the important is you say with a victory, no, it's not important. And I just can't say to say, is she's her that talking, that I don't kiss. In my vision, I saw that she was with a recel, or not
Starting point is 00:36:57 I did carry a risk, she made certain. This is, in my vision, but so, who can't know, it's her. And, car, I enter there, I'm trying to get an opportunity to end up the other, right? Because we know that when we go to the
Starting point is 00:37:11 juicists, they have the vision of them, they use the criteria of their, so I can say, I just can't say
Starting point is 00:37:17 for my, I'm going there's going the victory the time totally, and trying to get less
Starting point is 00:37:22 risk the possible. And then after the little, you did that the social,
Starting point is 00:37:27 you have the confidence that you will be the next, that you have to be the next,
Starting point is 00:37:31 to be the title of the person so. So, so, so, I,
Starting point is 00:37:37 I have a thing with me that I never I never I never I never I'm
Starting point is 00:37:41 because I think we we're just we're in the FC and much more in Pesogalo
Starting point is 00:37:48 I think I think it's a category in F.C. in Pesugal that we have a maybe in a
Starting point is 00:37:54 category that's a not there's many A MHA almost no exist practically no
Starting point is 00:37:58 it's almost no exist so those categories that really are
Starting point is 00:38:02 disputated I think the Pesugal is the people that is the people
Starting point is 00:38:06 I always So, so, I always I always always to be this with me, for the fact of the fact of the fact of we're not, I have a preference
Starting point is 00:38:14 to look with the gringas this is a thing my, but I always made clear that if was in a situation this, of a dispute
Starting point is 00:38:22 of a where not was a matter, it's clear that my dream or my objective always will
Starting point is 00:38:27 say that my objective, making clear that I don't want with the Amanda, I want to
Starting point is 00:38:32 look to the centuron and actually she she's a champion and I don't I'm not
Starting point is 00:38:38 I'm asking I'm I'm quite in two years I'm in two men's the only woman who was Amanda Dunes
Starting point is 00:38:46 so I'm I believe too that I'm a problem but it's sure that's in the mind of God, I always I'm in the
Starting point is 00:38:54 mind of the idea that also that I'm the head coach is the my company and he always will do what
Starting point is 00:39:00 is better for me in my career he always think for my future and he doesn't think in
Starting point is 00:39:04 now he thinks a long-pros. So, so, I and my team we think we're we're we're we're going to be a lot of this direct. You have to think maybe I'll even go there, no, there's a there to UFC in the
Starting point is 00:39:18 beginning of the year next, it would be? It would be more special even to dole of two Brazileers in front the torsia of our country here? With certainty, no, I think there would have a appeal very great, we're a good time, we're going to be a event in Brazil, and I think
Starting point is 00:39:33 in a superluta with two Brazilians in the Brazil, with certainly it would be very good, I believe
Starting point is 00:39:39 that the people people people of are in a lot of not in the event.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Of course, it's good, I'm not people, but as I'm saying, we're in a moment,
Starting point is 00:39:52 in a situation where I don't have to choose, she, she she's a champion,
Starting point is 00:39:56 and, and, and, for the ranking, and, I'm so, I think,
Starting point is 00:40:01 it will be a show, and it would a great a great lot, a great opportunity if it would happen in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:40:06 The Amanda Nunes was a bit bit a bit of a lot of the way she was the whole homie home in
Starting point is 00:40:13 bed, knockoutianda Rouse Ganda Misha Tate you think the the Lucha she said that she made, the first, she
Starting point is 00:40:22 maybe a we haven't not had been seen even since she turned a champion that she
Starting point is 00:40:26 had been already, but since she was turned campion maybe that was going,
Starting point is 00:40:30 atropelling everyone, but that lot that was a lot of this opportunity, enter even
Starting point is 00:40:37 more confident. I have one thing for me. It's valid to I don't take a
Starting point is 00:40:43 minute to anyone, as I said, I think you have to enter in the
Starting point is 00:40:47 lot and try to get a more more faster for you to
Starting point is 00:40:51 you know, because who can not because who for me, I think I think
Starting point is 00:40:55 that one I think a person is better when she when she when the
Starting point is 00:40:59 other and has the the same chances during five rounds and you can't be better than
Starting point is 00:41:05 the other, she got her only got her she, she gotchial I also did many chutes in the holyhom
Starting point is 00:41:12 did chute and I chee, I gave a cuttoveled, there was many opportunities to come to
Starting point is 00:41:17 the fight but it was not my hands and by the hands of my hands of my hands of
Starting point is 00:41:22 I was in a good moment there, and I thought it had been put to
Starting point is 00:41:27 the five rounds with athletlet d'ar d'ar, I've been able to be able
Starting point is 00:41:32 to wince her. And, like you say, nobody is invasive, nobody is
Starting point is 00:41:38 imbatible, not that the person has been getting, so that the time getting, tant a
Starting point is 00:41:43 time getting, that the people, that the person is imbative, invincible, and nobody is,
Starting point is 00:41:49 I believe, that when you enter into the octogono, the chances are equal,
Starting point is 00:41:54 uh, 50% of chance for each one, and in the the course of the
Starting point is 00:41:58 course this percentage diminue or augmenta the my, my, my,
Starting point is 00:42:03 my trainer, he's always said that I have a job to do a little
Starting point is 00:42:07 a lot of Amanda. I'm an an athlete great, like her, not
Starting point is 00:42:11 something, not some people pay the attention, but she was doing the
Starting point is 00:42:14 double of the time of the time, so it does the difference
Starting point is 00:42:18 no not there didn't it didn't force, the to try
Starting point is 00:42:23 force equal with Amanda. A we perceived also that she
Starting point is 00:42:27 got a Amanda she's she's she's she's she's
Starting point is 00:42:32 she's she's she's she's a lot of she's not a we're
Starting point is 00:42:39 we're to get in a lot prepared for all you I don't
Starting point is 00:42:43 know I don't try and not prepared for a surprise to a
Starting point is 00:42:48 surprise of my adversary yeah I think Julianna Penh too also on
Starting point is 00:42:51 a level that we're in a different we have to we can't expect that
Starting point is 00:42:55 we're will try to base, or will be to dress, or will aghra, it's all right, it's all right, and in the interviewer, she said, she said, but in the hour of the lute, I saw, I saw,
Starting point is 00:43:05 but in the order of her, she was a muddance of the base of Amanda, so that she not could not even attack, and every time she attacked, and she was she was used to
Starting point is 00:43:17 the base and coyote, Amanda just d'all a pass to drive a hand, she'd and took anok-dial all the days. So, so,
Starting point is 00:43:26 I'm in the team, we we've been thinking this for a much time, like Amanda was a
Starting point is 00:43:31 time champion, so we always studied the game she's always, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I'm not a moment very good of my career, as a person and I'm a
Starting point is 00:43:42 maturicening much as a athlete, I've been training all too too
Starting point is 00:43:46 also I think when we don't talk with a moment that we more
Starting point is 00:43:52 we're more evolve so I'm always and looking, evolve, and always be conditioning,
Starting point is 00:43:57 get there and be conditioned to get a lot of a lot of you know, and you think that maybe the
Starting point is 00:44:01 decision, took a decision to see a other way, because the Daramette, he, many years
Starting point is 00:44:06 along the years, he said, he never would be a trilogy of Amanda with a
Starting point is 00:44:12 Valentina Tivichenko, but after this event, he made he may be now,
Starting point is 00:44:16 now, now, now, they decided to make a Amanda against a Valentina,
Starting point is 00:44:21 of No? I believe that all can happen yeah. The UFC is a
Starting point is 00:44:24 company, so they will do always the better than the business, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:28 what is going to make a business. But for me, sincerely, I don't see the
Starting point is 00:44:35 another lot of this, Amanda has got a because now would be a different,
Starting point is 00:44:41 not don't know if the Valentina have also to look with Amanda,
Starting point is 00:44:46 but for me the certain would be her revenge for Taila, in my conception, a Taya
Starting point is 00:44:52 has beenceau, that Lutta, that that's a cabessada about, it's a little with her, so I think, in my vision,
Starting point is 00:45:00 this would be the Lutta to do, but as I repeat, the F.C., he's a better, he's the only
Starting point is 00:45:06 thing that I don't think certain, is the cinturon will be a troughed, now, I'm not
Starting point is 00:45:10 what she will do what she will do you know, if she will be to be what she will be
Starting point is 00:45:14 what she not want, if she's not, let the a centuror a much time
Starting point is 00:45:18 parado, right, I'm because there are other men in the category there,
Starting point is 00:45:22 there are there also, I think, if not for doing a lot of a lot of a
Starting point is 00:45:28 business, if it's good for the company, I don't think to make the centuron
Starting point is 00:45:33 too time parado. There are other men can't do some can do the
Starting point is 00:45:39 case of Davidson Figueroero now, they've got a place, so I'm
Starting point is 00:45:44 don't see the category to be parted to that really Amanda was to do a lot
Starting point is 00:45:49 with a Valentina. And when you came to be in the UFC, I remember that I had interviewed and you said, was your son- was to turn the
Starting point is 00:45:57 Joseado of the women, that's what you have been in your company of the team and now, and now,
Starting point is 00:46:02 every bit this dream, to plotar the centron, you think to get Amanda Nunes, you would
Starting point is 00:46:07 put up a matamara so, to put, to realize, I'm my son, I'm,
Starting point is 00:46:11 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the Josealdo, the Pes-O, to the women? I think
Starting point is 00:46:18 with the whole of the baggage of Amanda Nunes, that's all in discultive that's until the moment she's the
Starting point is 00:46:24 time she's she won't the best of the best champion of two categories so with certain
Starting point is 00:46:33 if I can't wincer a dispute of a under Amanda Nunes and with
Starting point is 00:46:38 this I will be being realizing more a dream to me turn
Starting point is 00:46:42 the version Femini Vezererer and in front Amanda Nunes in January, in the FCN in a New York, how is you permanently a lawsuit and conquests the central?
Starting point is 00:46:53 So, Guillermo, I always say that important for me is to wincer. No interest, I'm going to get by a few of the cabelo or for a pirouca. The important is I'm being prepared there.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I believe if I can apply all that I'm training here, the victory is a consequence of all this, but I'm a person that I have a lot
Starting point is 00:47:13 I believe much in the plan of my life. And I know that every day he has been in two luts in a minute
Starting point is 00:47:21 contendent's mutating five rounds and I'm the five rounds, if I was to do more two rounds I would do
Starting point is 00:47:26 so I'm maturceesel much with an athlete and my dream my dream is my point I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:47:35 be a version of Jesuserald and I want to be the first Amazonian champion of FC and in session Fight Week
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Starting point is 00:48:37 that on the day 6th of August, a walk-tong with a Jeff Neal, a lot that has all to be impugnant, two guys who go to a porrada, these two guys with styles of lute that I love very much. But, well, be welcome to podcast here. to talk to you, how many of those things
Starting point is 00:48:51 for there, before this guard of the other? Thank you. Thank you, more than one way. Good, too, is here, too, to talk about to talk. And I'm anxious, I think it's a walk
Starting point is 00:49:04 rapid, right, from my last a lot, that, unfortunately, not, not, I don't have to have that victory, so I could. So, I gave a pass-in-past-in-out-out- going to continue, down
Starting point is 00:49:14 to front, go-and, to that, to that position where future-mation, I would be going to to a dispute to a centuron. But by the front
Starting point is 00:49:23 comes, you know, a guy duro, that is the Jeff Neal, so I think is a much focus on this moment, there's
Starting point is 00:49:30 much focus on this lot, I think it's a guy that's been demonstrated this in the last time,
Starting point is 00:49:36 and I'm not different, I'm prepared, and I'm be prepared to be prepared to this. You,
Starting point is 00:49:41 despite to have lost the last time for a man, a duke- person, you're
Starting point is 00:49:45 in the category, in this next round a guy that as you like you're in top 10 he's in
Starting point is 00:49:55 he's in 13th in 13th in moment now or you think that given the circumstances options
Starting point is 00:50:00 available in the moment was a good a good I think the thing
Starting point is 00:50:06 the thing comes the period for I would so if I could
Starting point is 00:50:10 try someone more rankeed I maybe would have to maybe
Starting point is 00:50:15 I'd be my last last physically not nothing, no, I didn't have a camp excellent, me sent me really, I looked at five rounds, so I
Starting point is 00:50:24 saw, it doesn't make sense I'm going to keep, I'm going to make this preparation that I've, I'm having, I'm without, I'm going to mark another lute, and then it gets difficult, if I'm going to look just for the top five, I'll have to be able, the guys want to look at, no day that they're
Starting point is 00:50:40 that I'm going to be available, that they're going to be able, it's it's more difficult, it's, it's more difficult there's in the top five. And even more, let's
Starting point is 00:50:49 say, I'm going to the guy, the guys are going to be a lot, the guy's going to
Starting point is 00:50:55 get to get to always have always things. So, for me, it would make a
Starting point is 00:50:59 person who maybe not didn't be in top five, but if were a guy that
Starting point is 00:51:05 had been to victory, a guy who had a certain name in the category, and I
Starting point is 00:51:09 think the Jeff Neal is it. He's a guy is a guy who's coming
Starting point is 00:51:12 to victory about, is a guy who has great lot in the category is a guy that's a guy is a trocadour so the question
Starting point is 00:51:21 of style casers very well for the two and more than all the fans I think it's a lot that will
Starting point is 00:51:27 bring a lot that's a lot really sense even not being a guy in a top five a guy that
Starting point is 00:51:33 will be my will be alvancar more to the category is a guy that
Starting point is 00:51:39 will try the lot that will make a lot and it's a a guy who will look now,
Starting point is 00:51:44 that I'm going to get to get in the period that I want to be really, I'm feeling really very well,
Starting point is 00:51:51 I've been in the last last the camp for this camp now, and the body is very
Starting point is 00:51:56 very, no I've got no time, no, I don't have, no, I'd say, to be,
Starting point is 00:52:03 to say, to be able more, I'm very very well, I'm very that the profile that the American likes to do make the market,
Starting point is 00:52:16 a falastrown and and it's a lot, and it's a lot, borg, bina, bina, bina, the deal of the guys were not even more, imagine, you know? Exactly, I think
Starting point is 00:52:26 that this is a thing that's always me, me, I've always my career, never was easy to find the adversary that,
Starting point is 00:52:33 that would say in, in the first, let's say, in the first offer when my name is offered,
Starting point is 00:52:41 but I think I think I always I always I've prepared to confront all the world, be a guy wrestler,
Starting point is 00:52:48 the guy grappler, the guy trocadour, I'm going molding my job for this. I'm going molding my
Starting point is 00:52:54 job to to be able to find all the types, and after my last last time, I think
Starting point is 00:52:59 I've I've added more a kind of not of training, not a game that the
Starting point is 00:53:07 guys are going to maybe maybe be this anti-joke to try me
Starting point is 00:53:11 to try me to go back back and to hold a little little to mark a few points to make a few points to every round
Starting point is 00:53:16 and I'm now I'm trying to training to not let's make the fight this form too. So,
Starting point is 00:53:26 afian, my wrestling, afyano, even more my grappling, that I think that maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:53:30 a chave for this, if the guy want to put to the ground, then we come with
Starting point is 00:53:35 Jujits offensive too to put a problem, for the guy, not I, even I'm
Starting point is 00:53:40 for the back the guy will be going to be going to be the guy will be me and he but it's a
Starting point is 00:53:46 frustrating the form that was you're going to be a little bit of a little bit of a great lute of your adversary
Starting point is 00:53:53 not that he was like a lotcoteote finalized or passed the car was a that he controlled
Starting point is 00:53:58 he did with the with the book of the back of the braso and he became
Starting point is 00:54:03 it's all it's it's all even that nobody got to nobody
Starting point is 00:54:06 got to be of the sentiment of that, the guy did almost nothing to to gain a lot? For me, it's a little bit more, because I think
Starting point is 00:54:14 I can be finalized, I can be in the past before the F.C. I was finalized in the end of my career, and it's very wrong, but it's
Starting point is 00:54:22 more decisive, let me say, and never was not quite, never be, but it's a thing, that, that's,
Starting point is 00:54:28 that's, I don't what I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm supered, and this lute were some, so, also,
Starting point is 00:54:35 also merit of his, he went there and he was there and he put the strategy very very well, me confunded to caramba, but I came prepared for one thing, that was, that was, I wanted to go to,
Starting point is 00:54:48 I went to up to get to, during all the lot, and I wanted to make that moment to be able to do the most attacks, and he was, uh, in the strategy,
Starting point is 00:54:59 in the technique, me putting to back to the last minutes, uh, in the minute final, to guarantee the round. So it was surprising
Starting point is 00:55:09 during the and in the end of the last was it was frustrating because I thought that I thought that
Starting point is 00:55:17 would be the future I would have from the beginning and I accelerated the pass,
Starting point is 00:55:22 I'd go to all right because if the if the lot will be a marra better I put the
Starting point is 00:55:28 rhythm and go there and go my and bring to bring a danger to the
Starting point is 00:55:32 adversary and he that's a so I think that's that's a practice also that I think
Starting point is 00:55:38 no top of the category there are many guys could have this cub the proper Camaro,
Starting point is 00:55:44 the propob are guys who have a wrestling to try to try to make this game
Starting point is 00:55:48 and maybe I need and make my a lot of an lot aggressive,
Starting point is 00:55:55 that is not not think that not quite in the knockoution, in the first of the
Starting point is 00:56:00 end of you see in Jeff Neal, a guy who can try this too, or no, he's a guy in the style of a lot of his chance of him to try to make a lot of technically technical and strategic, and
Starting point is 00:56:12 amarrad, is almost null. I think it's very difficult he wants to do this. I think the style of his really is really a trocaation and go to go back into. But, today, I think with my experience, what I
Starting point is 00:56:26 have been living in my career, I don't I can't be unprepared for nothing. I have to be getting to be a lot. He is a wrestler,
Starting point is 00:56:36 the initial of his career of his career was in wrestling. So he has, let's say, this ability to put to go back
Starting point is 00:56:42 and maybe want to make a lot of a lot of a marra'd. So this then will be also in
Starting point is 00:56:48 my head, will be in the plan, I'm, I will expect maybe this anti-jogo of his,
Starting point is 00:56:54 because I think today now there more, there's much I've done many other than the FC, the guys know my style,
Starting point is 00:57:03 know the most of my points and know that, let's say, go to the confront, you know, batte de front with me, or be in the ground, or be in the ground, it's dangerous
Starting point is 00:57:13 because I have the tools in the two. So it's, they see that a way, is not to be front,
Starting point is 00:57:20 is to make that a lot more strategic, even, for example, if you go in perhaps, maybe,
Starting point is 00:57:25 maybe, to be maybe to be to move more, and not be to
Starting point is 00:57:27 a troca franca. So, are things that I are putting techniques and strategies to put the people if
Starting point is 00:57:36 were the option but I imagine that he comes to come to come to come to bring to a big to be but let me.
Starting point is 00:57:44 If he don't come here, I will do the lot of the lot of a lot of a result of
Starting point is 00:57:51 a result of a business a bit of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of he had
Starting point is 00:57:56 had Before this sequence, he was in-fileared, many people, a lot of them, athletes, that you've got got also, but he's there's out of the top 15, as I said, where he's
Starting point is 00:58:09 more perigoso, if he does what he always does, not that he possibly that he possibly could be able to, he tries more the danger in the game normal of his
Starting point is 00:58:18 against you? It's in the part in-peer is the part in-peer of his most per-per-de- -duevety, it's for that he, even being a wrestler, he's transformed in a
Starting point is 00:58:29 trocadour. And even this fact, a guy that has a problem, it's quite impossible to be derubed. I think he was derubed a few times.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And it's always about about 15, 20 seconds on the chan, he's got in back. So, with certain, the
Starting point is 00:58:44 procaation of the first thing, the differential of his, he is a canyot. It's always is a disaffiator to confront
Starting point is 00:58:52 can't a man left, it very perigosa. He has a shoot the left, too very dangerous, so he initiated the knockout of Mike Perry
Starting point is 00:59:02 with this shoot of Cot. I think he has a other guy, I don't know if it's a little Camacho. Someone he knockedo with the shoot of the left also. So, I think it's these main things that I
Starting point is 00:59:16 need to be very alert, because it's always perigoso is to confront canyotos. It's a style different. I'm I'm just looking here, now I'm in Florida training, so I'm doing much sparring with a canyote
Starting point is 00:59:27 exactly to me adapt to this. So I think the principal for him is a trocaation and the fact of he being a manh before the Lott-Contubel had,
Starting point is 00:59:39 of four victories expressives, since he had been to give him Thompson, before the Lott-Kstiv-Otompson had a sequence much more,
Starting point is 00:59:47 and he still had not received the chance to the centuron, I was trying the opportunity, but the
Starting point is 00:59:54 category was in a moment more emboled than the time now, now, maybe the Camaro was made a
Starting point is 00:59:58 limped there, let me what happened with the other Lionel but, but how
Starting point is 01:00:03 the victories you think you need to this time to be to see this chance of the centuron
Starting point is 01:00:09 that's teemandoing and not it's difficult to be. But I think, with certain
Starting point is 01:00:14 today, today, the the way more more promissored than whatever
Starting point is 01:00:18 other other I have to, let's say, Camino's more clear, we have, we have the Chimaev there in the same as possibly
Starting point is 01:00:29 the next to to be a, he will be a fight with Nate. It's a lot, so, the lot is all can happen,
Starting point is 01:00:35 but I would put him a favorite, I think the FCC will want to make him, he and the
Starting point is 01:00:40 winner and I need so I need to so I think this lute, depending the next it can be
Starting point is 01:00:51 an one that's a lavante but it's it's a different from the other person the focus now is
Starting point is 01:00:56 really gained the Jeff Neal to be to be in the column of the victorios and then
Starting point is 01:01:01 this column I can't be able to know and depending of the name depending on
Starting point is 01:01:08 how I think could be this dispute there's so I think
Starting point is 01:01:12 today two, three luts I think would be what I would be
Starting point is 01:01:16 looking if if all if all the whole we're in the we're in the we're going to but the plan
Starting point is 01:01:22 is always the plan is always the plan is always that you're going to the way of the Nite-Diaz the M.C. will, with
Starting point is 01:01:31 a certainty to give a chance of a tutorial to him, and no, that, that,
Starting point is 01:01:35 that, that's, that's the country, that's a great majority, would be a zebraus,
Starting point is 01:01:42 if not a major zebrae of all the times, because, poor, Neyte is far the end up his
Starting point is 01:01:47 he's he's not he's really very little he's really passing the car in the
Starting point is 01:01:53 world, did a clouton with a d'urin? You, you, you can't
Starting point is 01:01:57 with this vision? That's a mismatch there, the the chance of Nent
Starting point is 01:02:02 Dijes gained, the Myev is very small. I'm I'm quite I think
Starting point is 01:02:08 the Lute the Lute with Mundurin for me was the
Starting point is 01:02:12 really really decided He made him, he showed what the Chiméff is here to do. Because, for me,
Starting point is 01:02:20 no, there's comparison, DURIN, and Nate. I think the DURIN is in a level much high, is in a rhythm
Starting point is 01:02:25 much more high, he's really in the career of his and the Nate is very akin than the Nate
Starting point is 01:02:34 was in the pasted. So I think, looking, today, taking the Chmaev,
Starting point is 01:02:39 who entraned the D'O'RIN, and picking the Nate that made the last the last a lot
Starting point is 01:02:43 of him with Leon Edwards, I would put him a favorite I think he's a guy a
Starting point is 01:02:50 very strong, very complete, he has a problem he's also, the trocaation that he
Starting point is 01:02:55 showed that has much that has very so I think it difficult
Starting point is 01:03:00 it's difficult for Nate so if he will let's say the Nate of the
Starting point is 01:03:05 oldge there, maybe he he can get so much very
Starting point is 01:03:11 prepared but But, I've ultimately of those two, I put the I put the favorite in the
Starting point is 01:03:16 lot. I think he showed that really he's prepared to be prepared to be able to the top and I think
Starting point is 01:03:23 the net not is in the level of top now, today. In terms of competitive, it's a
Starting point is 01:03:28 pass on the year, the Myev I go to N'I. The Lute is purely a market,
Starting point is 01:03:33 to elevate to KMAev the popularity of his using the NITDiz of Skada, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:40 I think is the scenario is the is the fight more favorable with the
Starting point is 01:03:46 type more favorable that will allowank to him to the stintoron so I think a lot
Starting point is 01:03:52 that's a lot of you see that after the other years he passed the car and he
Starting point is 01:03:58 was a lot so d'urring and to make a and get to wince for points
Starting point is 01:04:04 and so you know this this is that he is a man that he is can bring
Starting point is 01:04:10 the Usman by the Cintrown, or you think that Usman still would be a pass a
Starting point is 01:04:15 point to him in a moment? I think he can't try to bring him I don't
Starting point is 01:04:21 see he getting, I think he not would he would not get the USman
Starting point is 01:04:25 in this moment, because I think he needs to more experience, he needs
Starting point is 01:04:29 to more some he needs, for this I think, the type, the type
Starting point is 01:04:34 and the form that he came in the way, she is good, she she is good
Starting point is 01:04:38 because everyone want to will be there, but it's wrong because he can't build a baggie,
Starting point is 01:04:43 right, to confronts a guy like a car like a man who always demonstrated that if the
Starting point is 01:04:48 the luta go in the environment he will dominate any, if the the luta if it
Starting point is 01:04:53 complica, he is a guy that has a car, that has all the things to
Starting point is 01:04:59 even as superar diversity and to get the victory. And this I think
Starting point is 01:05:03 I don't see if the Chimae would be ready to be so I would
Starting point is 01:05:10 He can't get to get a hand, can happen something and can happen but I don't see him as a car to batter the
Starting point is 01:05:19 Camaro in this moment maybe after some the other and it was when he he went to a hype
Starting point is 01:05:27 of that he would would be I know that it would happen he even he even
Starting point is 01:05:32 really because he went to much more more pressure than I thought he that he would
Starting point is 01:05:39 be able to when he really vise that he would be able to do you know, he'd get to do you know, he was
Starting point is 01:05:48 in a lot of a lot of efforted. I mean, I obviously, I'm trying an decision aparted to the Durinio, but they
Starting point is 01:05:56 were to Shima, and I think it was an not was an little difficult to jogger in my vision,
Starting point is 01:06:03 but I think the Durin brought the perigue to him, and he sential the He had moments that you see that he was having to
Starting point is 01:06:12 use all that he had, he sent to gop, he took knock downs, he had to to be a lot on the down, he saw that not to do you know, so he would not to go to go to a lot in-pair and it was going to
Starting point is 01:06:28 and in the war, the two have been acerated, the two were in situations difficult. And this is a a guy that, that's, that's that's going to be
Starting point is 01:06:37 is, a guy like Camaro, who has lived this many times. The Camaro has been there with various guys,
Starting point is 01:06:45 durissimus. So I think the Shmae even needs to a lot of a lot of a bigger, really,
Starting point is 01:06:50 to put a problem. The question, the Camaro Usman will be a champion until the final of the
Starting point is 01:06:57 year, or you think that the Lionelendez can't surprise everybody and try the sturton
Starting point is 01:07:02 of him? This I think a lot of very interesting. I think the Leon, maybe be the guy that might possibly bring a perigo to
Starting point is 01:07:13 Camaro. I think one, they've just been fronted. It was a little last year. Camaro domined, but was a lot of three rounds, was a lot where not was so easy for Camaro to wince. He had to use all those rounds,
Starting point is 01:07:29 he had to use all the wrestling to his, to get to win, and the I've evolved very from then. So I think can be a guy
Starting point is 01:07:38 that's a place to put certain situations of perigo, will complicate a little the game
Starting point is 01:07:44 for Camaro, but even I see the Camaro as I would put a money, I would
Starting point is 01:07:49 put it in Camaro. I think he is a very dominant. And the Lyon is a person
Starting point is 01:07:55 that, even is a person, he can try to a certain difficulty, he don't
Starting point is 01:08:02 have any a card in a manga, let's, he doesn't have a finalization of a incredible in nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:07 He's a good, but not not get to be a lot of specific. Exactly. I think the fault of this maybe
Starting point is 01:08:15 complique. For example, the Durin, when he was, it was, it was in two, in
Starting point is 01:08:21 the second, in the third round the lot, the lot, but he came dominated that because he
Starting point is 01:08:28 has a trunf that's a man very and he has, even the other trunf, which is the shan very good. He didn't
Starting point is 01:08:34 continue to that lute. So I think that this trunf is a thing maybe that's necessary to get to a
Starting point is 01:08:42 guy like a kind of, to make him preoccupated, at least he can't, I don't know, I can't do
Starting point is 01:08:48 make a moly. And the Leon, is a guy that don't have a trunfo but it's a
Starting point is 01:08:53 person, but it's a little bit interesting. I anticipate that it was a decision. I think the lion is a very difficult to be finalized or knockouted,
Starting point is 01:09:05 even by the style of the style of the lute-that-law but I think the Camaro will maintain the centuron. And just for we just I interviewed, I've interviewed there a time the Charles
Starting point is 01:09:15 of Broncos, and he said was he was disposed to even to, who would be deceive in the push of the second central, or who can even to go to 7-7, in push
Starting point is 01:09:25 he gave a interview recently the treador of his player that's a clitor
Starting point is 01:09:32 in a weird in him when he usedman when he's saying to USPN
Starting point is 01:09:37 American saying that he's a clime a clime because people know possible
Starting point is 01:09:42 the adversaries and you think the if he should he subiss to set
Starting point is 01:09:47 he would he would he would be stronar the Camaro Usman because he
Starting point is 01:09:52 has this this joke there he has the jujits spectacular he's showing
Starting point is 01:09:55 more a evolution of a trocaation, but maybe the shape of his not be a shape to set and maybe he's
Starting point is 01:10:01 a little in this division. How do you see this possibility? You think he would be to set set,
Starting point is 01:10:06 he would be a major to be a unmasal? Or for some reason, you think he better for him
Starting point is 01:10:12 to get in 70, and if he were trying a second pseudron that's no mid-aheyer.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I think, in the matter, I think better to do what he had to be feeling
Starting point is 01:10:21 being, so he, So if he, without question of time, I think he is a small to but he's
Starting point is 01:10:28 a small never is a lot of he is a guy who is sure he will be very much more rapid
Starting point is 01:10:35 than the Camaro and this on the ground is a a tool to put to put
Starting point is 01:10:40 to put the game of his finalizations so there there advantages
Starting point is 01:10:45 and there are I think the thing the is that along of he's that even of
Starting point is 01:10:51 The confidence that he's in this moment, he'll in a place very good to do this. So, I, in the place of his, with certainty, or would be or deceria to go to other cinturon,
Starting point is 01:11:05 because I think, he's, he's, he's the champion, he's, he's, he, that's, he, that's, he,
Starting point is 01:11:13 to go to other category, you go, you have, you have all to, let's, if he's, if he's sub-se-7-7, to confront the Camaro,
Starting point is 01:11:21 He will have nothing to to lose. Just the fact of his sub-to-category to fight the piece-per-Pesa number one,
Starting point is 01:11:29 this then that's all right to be moral to come with a mentality to be a champion, to wince
Starting point is 01:11:37 the better of the world in this moment, I think would be very positive. Mentally
Starting point is 01:11:43 he would be very very well and this could be one of the chaves of his
Starting point is 01:11:47 victory of his, not think it would be a great challenge, with
Starting point is 01:11:52 certainly, but the Charles is, he's done for a career of the career of this.
Starting point is 01:11:57 No, sure you know, thank you good, thank you for your time, and this career for the
Starting point is 01:12:03 Jaf, Niu, and he brings more a victory for the Brazil, Mille. VALZ
Starting point is 01:12:10 more than a victory for Brazil in the future of this signtourn, we're a few days
Starting point is 01:12:22 in the few years, I'm a little bit to be to happen, If I'm in 2009, that you were in 2019, that you were at least-established
Starting point is 01:12:29 one-contra-out, but it was out of the case Confus of the Adopi of the Petrita, how is the expectative to finally be able to finally be able to say in the Mone with her in the FEC? So, in the fact that was to have happened
Starting point is 01:12:40 in the KSW. Before she was to do you, to look with a Valentina, we were, we would be to look at the KSW in my second defense
Starting point is 01:12:50 of the Centuron, but then there had an opportunity to to walk with her own and I was in the other than I went with the
Starting point is 01:12:56 partner of her and I'm the partner of Mariana Mariana Morais and then then after
Starting point is 01:13:04 my third Lut of UFC was to we're to do that and more one way it's not
Starting point is 01:13:10 so now now the third will be so I'm so I'm very empoogated we're
Starting point is 01:13:16 being animated for this but she being an athlete of the trocation
Starting point is 01:13:20 I think there's to be one of the the best of the night. I'm tryinged, I'm with a lot of time.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And it's so it's a little no show. What did you know, from the KSW that was going to the other than FC
Starting point is 01:13:33 and today, how you've got to these three phases different in your career, because in the time of KSW had a
Starting point is 01:13:40 type of the star of the organization, in the DECC, you had a very a moment of recuperation, you
Starting point is 01:13:50 now you'd be in a victory, how you'd evaluate, every phase that you passed in the
Starting point is 01:13:54 moments that you were escalated to get to get her. Well, are three phases
Starting point is 01:13:58 we're totally different. No, KSW as a campaign, in the UFC,
Starting point is 01:14:03 coming of two derotas and be my first victory, and now,
Starting point is 01:14:08 coming of a victory, in a phase that I am sure, I'm feeling more more mature.
Starting point is 01:14:13 In KSW I remember that I was a very very confident, but I had a
Starting point is 01:14:17 maturity that I had a second Luc of the FC would
Starting point is 01:14:21 moment, very indecisive from my future into the FC. But I believe
Starting point is 01:14:27 that's a moment that we're going to now, I think is a moment certain.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I'm really, I feel prepared for this. Every battle, a time, I tend to
Starting point is 01:14:38 me superer more in question not so of physical, but also trying to get
Starting point is 01:14:42 more more strong, every more explosive, everything I could evolve to every
Starting point is 01:14:48 time, every first time that was for we'd to do you do to do the camps I've just not did,
Starting point is 01:14:53 but especially in the part technical. I've been evolving very in the part of the United to evolve to
Starting point is 01:15:01 but I'm not not going to go to be going to be my speciality that is the strike. So I'm
Starting point is 01:15:07 really prepared and confident to do that this lot of the future. The Lottonofc also, she came to
Starting point is 01:15:13 a moment difficult, because she came to turn the Wences in Valentina was the Jolian, just tore the
Starting point is 01:15:18 in the joint in the little difficulty extra, yeah, and he had to superer
Starting point is 01:15:24 to various deros to put to get in the future, and it's a little a lot of
Starting point is 01:15:31 a lot of a lot of a monster, a man and it's, how is that a lot of you're in
Starting point is 01:15:36 you, it is the type of kind of kind of perfect for you, because it's an
Starting point is 01:15:42 athlete who goes to try to try someone who will I think that exactly for this, that you're perhaps to be able to
Starting point is 01:15:51 to be able to see her perhaps to surprise, and fugue a little of the essence of her.
Starting point is 01:15:56 As you know, the phases that we'd see to find, the two are the two have been in
Starting point is 01:16:02 a moment good of the FECC, the two confiante, I think that's that will
Starting point is 01:16:06 give that's a more to that love, that the love, to say with a
Starting point is 01:16:10 victory. I don't subestim a Priscilla, she, she is a lotletlet d'
Starting point is 01:16:14 has been most performance in the FC, but I believe that my technique will be the chavable
Starting point is 01:16:21 to wince this lute, we've seen the last year, the essence of her is the process of the first of
Starting point is 01:16:27 her last, she's she took to put to back and she put her the Nionki in the
Starting point is 01:16:33 ground, I believe that she will try me to put the ground,
Starting point is 01:16:39 at the final of round to mark the point, if the round did maybe
Starting point is 01:16:43 the round came to mymm- I'm today I'm prepared for all. The car training camp
Starting point is 01:16:49 we train we train to train to the point in the points points on the points fracos of the point in the
Starting point is 01:16:58 time I'm trying to my game, but I have prepared to any other situation in the MMA. Today I don't have, the
Starting point is 01:17:03 MMA evolved that we can't find, it's just the trocaation, or will be just a referee.
Starting point is 01:17:09 As athletes are evolving with the sport, with the MMA. So I I believe that she can be
Starting point is 01:17:13 to be prepared to this, but if the luta for roll in-pair, I believe that we're in house and it's been show. When you put the head on traviso, and pears in a lute,
Starting point is 01:17:24 like, you know, if you're just to concentrate, normally relaxement, like, I feel visualizing the luther. How is you see getting from the Pederita on Saturday? Me veal of saying with a victory. The principal is is to go to the game-playing.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I'm, I'm, always that I'm going to to do not. I'm trying with my first victory for knockout in the NFC. I'm training much to to be doing my better, but I think what I'm more has been evolved in my career,
Starting point is 01:17:55 as a man career as a matter, and my patience to find this moment. So I don't go afoita to to do notherst, norcaut, nor do you, in finalization. If you have the opportunity, with certain, I will have to trainable for this, but the
Starting point is 01:18:07 principal is to be there is focused. It's minute for minute in in the minute, in every round, to wince at all the moment, and say to go to the victory, go to the end up with the victory. How is you work mentally this,
Starting point is 01:18:22 Lansing? Because you, clear, vencer is the most important, the same of all, but the your sense is a porrada, is to, I imagine that. I'm going to wince, you, you go back to house, but at least not so happy as you'd want to
Starting point is 01:18:36 when you could knockoutia someone. this is it a part of a thing, like, it's like, a, a,
Starting point is 01:18:42 a, a, quite that's in a little, I'm, I'm going, but,
Starting point is 01:18:48 I'm never, I'm going to not, I don't see as a piece, because the
Starting point is 01:18:53 victory that I had a with a war, was a victory that was
Starting point is 01:18:57 a lot of, not the same, the same even, no, but,
Starting point is 01:19:02 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:06 I'm the first of my category is to finalize with Nibar. So the victory in it's not
Starting point is 01:19:12 important. As a way, we're going to do you get more, you're more emotional than a knockout.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I'm sure. I want this for being strike, for being the same, and for for having
Starting point is 01:19:24 that I don't, that I don't that I don't wince for knockout. I don't show this
Starting point is 01:19:29 in the DFC, not I didn't have opportunity. But I think very, in a
Starting point is 01:19:34 moment certain. I believe in God, I believe in the purpose of his life. I believe that all in my life is going to get to get ridden to get.
Starting point is 01:19:41 So, until the moments of difficult, I have worked on this, that he's been preparing for something to do, for the purpose that he has for me. So, if I still don't have, not the hour right, so I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:19:51 try to take a cada, at every moment, at a cada, every lute, at every train, I'm not thinking so how and when it will be in the day
Starting point is 01:20:01 that I'm doing the time, that's right, that's going to do it, and I don't live this as a piece, I believe that
Starting point is 01:20:07 if it's for the next the other I believe it will be a moment certain
Starting point is 01:20:11 it's a moment that's a shockate and it's very much it's a perfect but who
Starting point is 01:20:18 can't come Saturday now yeah it's working working we're
Starting point is 01:20:22 working we're confident yeah yeah yeah it's in the time
Starting point is 01:20:32 yeah finalizing the camp a few years to say in the time
Starting point is 01:20:36 how it's this preparation this this moment important in you're
Starting point is 01:20:40 seeing now in your career to give a walk for the time? The preparation was very good, thanks a God, was a
Starting point is 01:20:48 very good and trainings very very good and training of much a preemned I think
Starting point is 01:20:55 was a camp there to we could go back the way of the so I'm very happy
Starting point is 01:21:01 with this camp that I did we we're ready to try to the
Starting point is 01:21:07 training in question of training, or then, of mentality, what's the move in your life, in a career, after these
Starting point is 01:21:16 these last results that, that, unfortunately, not came to your favor? Well, I think the
Starting point is 01:21:21 main to the United, here to America Tot Team. It's a team that I had a, as you
Starting point is 01:21:29 had a lot with America to have been here, I've been here, so, They were happy
Starting point is 01:21:42 of the I was able to be here and I was very happy to be able to be here so I think
Starting point is 01:21:46 the main the main of the city, to be a country, to be
Starting point is 01:21:52 going to get to it was very very very very great that's
Starting point is 01:21:59 what you feel so you immediately to be out of Brazil
Starting point is 01:22:04 because here many people people know that when you're part of
Starting point is 01:22:08 family he's close to the friends, obviously that this side positive, like this is,
Starting point is 01:22:12 you know, in your family, but there's distractions, you know, and you're in the States and you're
Starting point is 01:22:19 going to get into the academy, focus on the train, just going to go to the house and
Starting point is 01:22:23 it's a major difficulty, you know, you're going to your country, you're from your house, you're doing
Starting point is 01:22:29 a camera that's you're doing a camera that you're not a country totally different
Starting point is 01:22:35 of your so, so I think that's I'm in a certain way is a very disaffieredora, but I was,
Starting point is 01:22:42 I had a notion of this and I was disposed to pay the price, I'm disposed to pay the price, I
Starting point is 01:22:49 know of my potential, I know what I can't render even in the battle, so I
Starting point is 01:22:54 was a price, to be a price, yeah, to be a long from Brazil, to be a way,
Starting point is 01:23:00 to be able to be getting the way of the way of the victories. So,
Starting point is 01:23:04 I was 100 disposed and, with certain, as you said, the most difficulty is this, you're not?
Starting point is 01:23:11 You're not a morando where, exactly? You're in a hotel, or in a house of
Starting point is 01:23:15 someone? How are you are the first the first few the first the first of the next the new
Starting point is 01:23:19 life? So, we're here in the American Top Team even. In America Top Team,
Starting point is 01:23:24 there's a house here that she fornors for many of those houses, I'm not
Starting point is 01:23:30 here, I'm here, with more with more It's a question of training, because America Top Team, the team, other than the structure of the academia in-in-in-in-sin, that is excellent, has very weight of the pes-a-res-res. This was a part of the same thing that's a lot of the difference in comparison.
Starting point is 01:23:46 In comparison, the training in the Brazil, how it was? Ah, with the team of the pes-pessed personal, I just thought of me to get. As I'd ran back back, and the people always always me called. And, man, the Marcos Peas-on, Bouchercecha, Marcelo Gome Clidson
Starting point is 01:24:05 There's a side There's a lot, man, here of Pairs'Easers and, car, we do some trains many-maneers, one, accretenting in the game of the other, one helping the other, you know, not there's that kind of
Starting point is 01:24:18 one can't just just to matter, it's just, it's just, it's a lot, the team of the Pes-Pes-Pes-A-K good, the guys are all-fechased at the middle, is,
Starting point is 01:24:27 so, man, this day was a point very positive, that, I came here and I'm pretty much with the
Starting point is 01:24:34 people, I'm in I know I'm know I'm but I'm in a class and,
Starting point is 01:24:40 man, it was training, train no, after this training good, now. This is
Starting point is 01:24:46 a negable the the salto, the difference in question of quality of training in-sie,
Starting point is 01:24:53 but you did you do a aspect psychological, because I imagine that there
Starting point is 01:24:58 now, a pressure on you, po, three deroters a
Starting point is 01:25:01 It's a thing that you just in a position very complicated and now imagine that the pressure in this fight is to wince or
Starting point is 01:25:07 wincer. Ah, I don't don't look much for this pressure, I'm focused
Starting point is 01:25:13 in me, I'm focused on what I want, I want this victory. So, so,
Starting point is 01:25:18 before to think about this pressure, I'm thinking on that I'm thinking on what I want,
Starting point is 01:25:22 I'm like I know how I can't ender even, in the WAC,
Starting point is 01:25:27 in the the middle the It's just you See, I'm, Infelisement, I'm Some of some Some of some
Starting point is 01:25:34 apprentices, I'm getting four victories into the FC Yeah, I think that's the Pooke's in those pesos
Starting point is 01:25:42 So, the focus principal, not in this pressure, ah, have to gain, have to do,
Starting point is 01:25:47 my focus is in my evolution, it's in my victory, and it's that I'm focused
Starting point is 01:25:53 now. You think the first that you did you really good in the FC,
Starting point is 01:25:57 he can you help to be able to keep in the event obviously
Starting point is 01:26:01 you can get to get a but even that happens if you get to
Starting point is 01:26:06 this this time you have maybe help in your defense
Starting point is 01:26:11 to you maintain in a event and not a time maybe a
Starting point is 01:26:14 time never I never can't be it's but it can
Starting point is 01:26:21 be not but it I'm focused in my victory I'm
Starting point is 01:26:26 I'm focused in power to do the way to focus on the thing to do you know,
Starting point is 01:26:29 so I want to be this victory, I'm sure that she will be never,
Starting point is 01:26:35 I never never came to think, you know, I think, he could be, that can't
Starting point is 01:26:39 be, it's fift, a lot, but, anyway, I think I'm,
Starting point is 01:26:46 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, learned with the last
Starting point is 01:26:49 last lot and, I'm I'm think, I'm I believe much
Starting point is 01:26:54 in my victory. Mm-hmm. And what you think of Sergay Spivak with your adversary? It's a guy that's a style
Starting point is 01:26:59 of a joke that's a kind of about a victory about the year of the year of the there's over
Starting point is 01:27:06 some of the kind of a point of the boy what you what you think he the style of how it
Starting point is 01:27:13 has a shardard in the question it's a a guy a exquisite
Starting point is 01:27:17 there there's a game kind of kind of sometimes he he agh he's
Starting point is 01:27:22 put to back back to back and as well he he He,
Starting point is 01:27:24 he's a little he did in the last he went he's a knockoutian
Starting point is 01:27:28 but we're ready to it's to surprise him to make this
Starting point is 01:27:35 game this job on Saturday a knockout a knockout to to take
Starting point is 01:27:42 a zika to to lave almo yeah with with certain
Starting point is 01:27:47 yeah try to get the rob-wink on yeah five yeah
Starting point is 01:27:56 my man it's being I've been working this, I've worked in my mind for this moment for this moment
Starting point is 01:28:02 a year, that I've my life just was in my life, I'm in the state of the little, but
Starting point is 01:28:09 it's always focused in to get to top. No judo, I almost came in the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:28:16 it was for a year, in 2012 was to have been to go, so that was another athlete,
Starting point is 01:28:20 I'm my man, I'm not, I'm in my lifece of my career,
Starting point is 01:28:24 I'm I'm feeling being I know that I'm a great Luta, I'm going to do I'm doing a lot better than I did with Emiliano Sordy
Starting point is 01:28:39 because this time I'm more prepared, even because I could invest in my training. Because you know how it's a lot of a man, we have to work to support, the training, but this time I don't I just focused on my training.
Starting point is 01:28:58 You know, you've got to in the year, the between the disconecides but the FFL have those
Starting point is 01:29:03 medallions, that's those guys most popular, the name was there was going to get over the
Starting point is 01:29:08 berating, he came down the first the first the second the last time, and I'm going to wince
Starting point is 01:29:14 rapid to be a chance of a overview in a playoff and it
Starting point is 01:29:21 came who won't who went the 22 seconds, it was a thought of your head to the case,
Starting point is 01:29:26 imagine, it's imagine the pressure of to have to have to wince to wince
Starting point is 01:29:31 to get a year to get a big of guarantee the vaga? Yes, I mean, I entered as
Starting point is 01:29:39 a little two champions of the car, I picked the chapoo the champion in 2021 and the
Starting point is 01:29:45 Emiliano Sord that's the ex-campion of 2020, they got and me got
Starting point is 01:29:50 and they got them they're going to me test it I'm I believe this,
Starting point is 01:29:55 that the BFL I kissed me test to and there And there a, like,
Starting point is 01:30:00 that's like, that he's in me, he's a part of the side, and for the other,
Starting point is 01:30:04 I'm trying, I went, I went, I always, I said, in the same, I'm talking about, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:30:11 decide my the new ones, I don't want to the jury, I'm going to knockoutia, if it's
Starting point is 01:30:17 going to try to knockoutia, if it's for the third, I'm going to try to knock out, because I don't know
Starting point is 01:30:23 my job. My job to go up my job, to come to try a porrada, it's
Starting point is 01:30:27 I'm going to go. I'm in a lot. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm say, no, my man, man, man, man, if it's going to get, I'm going to, and if it's to win, I'm to get, I'm going to, I'm going to be, I'm trying, never, nobody will say, ah, that that's a, I never, I never, I'll, I never, I'll make a lot of callte-a, and to get to the knockout to all the moment. So what happened? I got the Emiliano Soddy, a guy durissim,
Starting point is 01:30:55 but I went back my pressure, and when my hand in the right enter, it's chal. And it's that's what will happen in the
Starting point is 01:31:01 lawsuit too. I have my hand right to enter in Wixon, he will feel and will get. Well,
Starting point is 01:31:09 Wigson is a guy who has passed a kick-box in a carrier, is a good sequence of victories then,
Starting point is 01:31:16 since he left the FICC, when he He's he had to Addisonia and he He's got to go back in the How do you think he goes to his How do you think that's a victory?
Starting point is 01:31:26 I think he comes very well, I think so have to be good care when I'm going to put him to back back, this I have certain, I've just heard some
Starting point is 01:31:35 I've seen the backerer in the event when we went to when we went to when we got to the guy who's the guy who is a lotator the guy sobe
Starting point is 01:31:44 the guy looks at the the guy You know what the guy is what the guy is sent in what a guy is not what a man is sitting. And I have to be certain that when I start to put a pressure, he will want to be to put me to back. And I'm not going to let me, I'm going to put him to back. And he has a breache in the middle of the guard of his, that he leaves a guard very open.
Starting point is 01:32:03 And we're trying much to do it. I'm going to work more bashing and try to jab. It was what the designer did. The designer, I beat the jab and it, batte the jab and I'd say. When I'd start to macho him, I'd say he'd, Then I put the right I'm sure that the
Starting point is 01:32:17 Luta will be Enrolled, first round, studio, I'm putting the jab, and the second round I just go to come to knock out of
Starting point is 01:32:23 and the third also, this other this is there no point in any other certain no, and the other
Starting point is 01:32:30 final I'm Maria Rhinelado for the author Severe, who got got the vows of
Starting point is 01:32:35 the the back of the who's got to who you try to to try to in the
Starting point is 01:32:39 final? I think, I, I think, I, I trained with Josh. I trained,
Starting point is 01:32:44 I passed a tonne a time time in the time in the time with Ryan Bader, you know, and the Josh,
Starting point is 01:32:50 and the Josh trainable there also, we trained with and I'm just out of you, I know I'm
Starting point is 01:32:55 I know the I'm sure, I never trained with Amari, but I know that he will get
Starting point is 01:33:00 to be the Josh, Josh, he is good in the question, but in the try try
Starting point is 01:33:05 he's not but I know the arm has the hand the hand the arm to him
Starting point is 01:33:09 the he's the he sent him the emmlette he he set him the arm of the emmleton but he was expert to he was able to run and he accepted a shoot but he was sent him in a trocaption
Starting point is 01:33:19 I think the Josh don't can't put a omari to if the Josh got to back back then if he threw his own but he but for me I think the omari will pass to the final
Starting point is 01:33:29 and the final will be me and how you get of him a guy so different and durable how you said my momari will be pressure because I know he is
Starting point is 01:33:39 more leave he's more levy He's more levy, get to the core to, cance the brawl, my brother, say in the arm, say in the middle,
Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm not, I'm not going to be like, not put, like, not to put it by back, put down to,
Starting point is 01:33:52 get in the ground, to get the to get to the and then and then I know, and then to talk to- and then
Starting point is 01:33:57 knock-te-a-t because I'm going to, I'll try to be always in-s like, like, like,
Starting point is 01:34:04 after-of-you- all-a-o-gand-a- the ring, gaining the me of oct-oveno, and, and working there, much jab,
Starting point is 01:34:11 saying, very jab, getting, you know, and putting him in the grad. And, always putting
Starting point is 01:34:16 a hand-dura, one-two-three, one-two-three, one-two-three. Uh-huh. And, poor, I'm going to,
Starting point is 01:34:22 you know, but there that's a game, that end of the end of the year, that's the
Starting point is 01:34:30 goal of the world, how is you balancee this there, you know, kind of, you want to
Starting point is 01:34:36 be the focus, but, you want, It's a million of dollars, that's a preemason that's a that's a that's a
Starting point is 01:34:41 that's a that's a new life, yeah? Yes, man, with a million of dollars
Starting point is 01:34:45 will be a life of a person in a world, but I'm be very sincere to you
Starting point is 01:34:49 my man, my fog, not a money, the money never made my
Starting point is 01:34:55 money never made my money, never I'm a car The only thing that I I like,
Starting point is 01:35:09 a little car, the old, a hobby is my, is my tennis. You know, so tennis.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I like Jordan, I go to Ys, I guess, but the money never, never made my eyes. Of course,
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'm going to battle to do you know, but what I want to get, is a legate, I'm,
Starting point is 01:35:29 I want to get a guy who came from the Parahibba, a guy who came in the
Starting point is 01:35:33 world, the most azar-a- the most the lot of all, he goes, and passed by the
Starting point is 01:35:40 Leons, and he craved the border of the Parahibah into the States United, in New York, and everyone
Starting point is 01:35:45 will know my name. It's what's my head my head. How many? What's the teneas you
Starting point is 01:35:50 have? Ah, just of Jordan, I have been two, easy, one of easy, a easy,
Starting point is 01:35:58 I'm coming going to go to use more of easy now, the six, seven, you,
Starting point is 01:36:02 you know, there, then there, there, there, there, also, New Balance. I'm with two of the Barents, and I'm going to
Starting point is 01:36:11 be a lot of the same. And with this premium of dollars, and you would have to be a million dollars, and you'd have been able to make that collection? Putta, what I mean, you could have certain, that's the amount of this premium would be just of tennis. My mother would be
Starting point is 01:36:22 going to get a lot. My mother would get to get a lot of, I would have, I'd have, I'd have, I'd have, to buy a house a major, and I'd have had been to sell them, so to tennis. I'd have made a lot of, to, you'd be part of tennis,
Starting point is 01:36:34 and she'd, I'd, I'd, I don't could reclimate, because the most of the United because of my phone in my house, yeah, there's a lot of your son, but that's not a lot of your son, but that's
Starting point is 01:36:42 notherly the internet is inaccessible? Yes, there. The Off White, the Chicago. Jordan 1 Off White, Chicago. And the Jordan 4, Off White.
Starting point is 01:36:55 The Jordan 4 Off White, just has this. He's been, these two are my Grail. Chameau the Grail in the
Starting point is 01:37:04 Stets, right? Jordan 1 off White. the Chicago, and the Jordan 4 off-white, the... My brinkin, you, you know, top. They cost them how? This Jordan, the Chicago, is valiant in a fashion of $5,000 to $6,000,
Starting point is 01:37:23 you know? And the Jordan 4, off-white, then, it's more expensive,000, it's. Porre, yeah, it's, you know, I can't, if I did, I want to do, if I did, I'll get it, if I did get, I'll get it, it's a certain thing.
Starting point is 01:37:33 The first thing that I went, I just look for the guy, link to my company, and my employer, and my employer also I like tennis, the Lucas,
Starting point is 01:37:41 I'm going to him, man, Vend the Stock X with the Tockex and you're and you're going to buy.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Stock X is the site that's the tennis, you know? Mania, so tomorrow that comes to this victory on the
Starting point is 01:37:53 first time, and that you can't come to the final of the year to get this premium millionaire and
Starting point is 01:37:59 to buy your house just to your car, marvell, man, then,
Starting point is 01:38:03 there, then, there, there, I don't I'm not thinking of this 1 million. I want to get this 1 million to buy the tennis. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:38:09 I'm sorry. I'm sorry for you. I lute for the legada, my brother. I lute by the felicity of my mom, by the fact of my family. The money is consequence, you, I have the health,
Starting point is 01:38:22 I have a lot. And the money, we go to back. The important, what we are, what we leave in this world, is the legate. The money, when we're
Starting point is 01:38:29 going to be there, but it's going to be like, remember. When you say, Adelan, Deland, my brother, this guy was sinister,
Starting point is 01:38:37 this guy, was like a zarangue, and he broke the guy, all the United, the Russs, and the putt of that's all right,
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