MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Cara de Sapato de volta ao MMA (+ Durinho analisa UFC 296)

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

Ex-BBB, campeão do TUF e da PFL, “Cara de Sapato” revelou ao Trocação Franca que finalmente voltará aos palcos do MMA em 2024. Na entrevista, o lutador falou sobre a vida como celebridade pós...-reality show, a compra do Bellator pela PFL, a vida fora do UFC, e muito mais. O programa recebe ainda Gilbert Durinho, que analisa as principais lutas da sua divisão no UFC 296, e Lucas Almeida, representante brasileiro no card diante de Andre Fili. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Former Big Brother Brasil contestant, TUF winner, and PFL champion Antonio Carlos Jr. announced on this week’s Trocação Franca that he’s finally returning to MMA for the 2024 PFL season. “Shoeface” discussed life as a celebrity post-Big Brother, PFL acquiring Bellator, and much more. Gilbert Burns also joins the program to break down the top welterweight matches at Saturday’s UFC 269 event, and Lucas Almeida discusses his upcoming bout with Andre Fili. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:12 Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, hello, my friend of 19th, the podcast The Oka San Francisco Franca,
Starting point is 00:02:33 A's your house about MMA is immense both of the sphere. I'm Glearm Chris,
Starting point is 00:02:38 correspondent of the site American M.M.A. Fahlerin and I'm back in the company of
Starting point is 00:02:42 Gilbert Durin who wrote to the podcast to analyze the UFC 296 that rola in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But, but we try come a idea with a car of a chapato, ex-campion of BFC
Starting point is 00:02:52 that was celebrity after after to participate of Well, but, but then, my friend, how is it a life of celebrity, how is it a big brother? Oh, man, it's a carrieve to
Starting point is 00:03:04 for a carrieve, you know, went to be a lot of course happening, I don't parr, the time to do this point a era, I'm going to roll out, Miami, Brazil, the time total, but it's just, but I'm part of the job, I'm happy with this moment.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Mania, car, there's a lot of stuff that you're doing in the life, where's where it's in the same thing, how are the plans to do you know, mea? Well, then I didn't participate
Starting point is 00:03:29 that was this, including one of the why I decided to like I did the
Starting point is 00:03:34 surgery in the I knew that I didn't get to time to the time to get to
Starting point is 00:03:39 then I'm let's participate to the other then I ended, but the plans now
Starting point is 00:03:44 is to go back the time so I'm not me can be the year
Starting point is 00:03:49 be the year and I'm here in Salvador I'm never paro, in fact,
Starting point is 00:03:55 I don't I can't stop. It's, it's, it's always, we're always trying to train
Starting point is 00:04:02 a little and I'm doing a surgery, but I'm here in Salvador now, training with Professor Doria, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:04:09 go back to get a little bit of my head, with the family and all right. In January,
Starting point is 00:04:14 I'll go back to American Top Team to start to start a training very specific
Starting point is 00:04:21 to the lute. It's confirmed in the year of the year that the FFL Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:27 we have this time I'm anxious to lot but I'm in a time I'm in lot due to
Starting point is 00:04:33 due to the surgery and so I couldn't not put to and the PFL it's not
Starting point is 00:04:39 like other events that are other events have done the season there the season
Starting point is 00:04:46 there the time that's maybe maybe to be maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:04:49 we can't we can be able to be to be to to get well,
Starting point is 00:04:54 you know, while this we're just developing, training, and to get in the way to get in the way to get
Starting point is 00:05:02 a lot of the MMA. You're a guy who'd be in Jiu-Nitz, you were in a day-Nive M.A.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And when came to M. M.A. It's been a career meteorica, me, it's a career accelerating
Starting point is 00:05:14 there to be getting much sufficient to enter to enter to Dufth and then was to always always
Starting point is 00:05:18 always always, but it was always but But the lesion is a foe, no, our is a great a problem
Starting point is 00:05:25 for the time distant, of what we're going to do that we have a pleasure to do that's in the life. So it's really
Starting point is 00:05:33 difficult. For that I got other other challenges there in this meh time, because if not it was a
Starting point is 00:05:38 little bit malucco. But it did a lot. I wanted I really wanted to have been
Starting point is 00:05:44 really done I'm really never, it was very complicated to do a lot of this year,
Starting point is 00:05:49 but I just I'm in contact with the people of the NFL, I'm organizing to the year
Starting point is 00:05:53 next to be we'll come to do you know, and doing the part here, training, and developing, and that's the
Starting point is 00:05:59 we're doing with a life new. You're a guy who's a reality show before,
Starting point is 00:06:05 it was a no, it was a global, there was a projection a mania but porre,
Starting point is 00:06:10 the stah the stuff is the first degrade, the big brother is the last decade of the
Starting point is 00:06:16 level of reality show, you know, you were to top, logo, They're the reality show most assisted the world
Starting point is 00:06:24 entire, they really have a visibility very great, so it was cool that other people who knew the sport
Starting point is 00:06:32 also, passed to know me to know, because at least the guy has there's a kind of the stereotype of the
Starting point is 00:06:37 lotator and and they, and they're able to more, more intimate possible in my life,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and today there's a guy who not accompany the sport that will be doing and torsending
Starting point is 00:06:49 with me. you brought a new public for the MMA you will bring a
Starting point is 00:06:55 new public to PFL because when you entered on the Big Brother you don't have two million
Starting point is 00:06:59 of followers on Instagram you are a guy who was known for CDFC was used in the
Starting point is 00:07:05 our bowl of the UFC now you're quite you're you
Starting point is 00:07:10 feel a responsibility because of this also you represent
Starting point is 00:07:13 MMA in the big brother and you will try
Starting point is 00:07:16 these new fans to to I think I feel like I feel like
Starting point is 00:07:22 so I'm feeling other people who didn't accompany a sport that now passable to know that I feel
Starting point is 00:07:28 that with with this I feel you're representing very well the sport not to do make a sport
Starting point is 00:07:35 known especially here in Brazil so this that's me makes very
Starting point is 00:07:42 very happy and have a more even with me more even more even
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, yeah. Encararer more a relative in the or shega? Yeah, I'm gonna I feel
Starting point is 00:07:53 a lot of much, yeah, I'm burmured now, it's not in the time and continue
Starting point is 00:07:57 in my life in the sport who still still have a long way to and then
Starting point is 00:08:03 PFL what you what you thought of the time of the year that
Starting point is 00:08:09 the end up the camp year and again again the company of America top team
Starting point is 00:08:14 in final, got over the car the guy that came year, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:18 the last suffered a knockout that viralized in the FC and now the guy millionaire, the champion
Starting point is 00:08:23 of the NFL in the balance general of your division in the organization,
Starting point is 00:08:28 what's the things of the the campaigns that we've seen that we
Starting point is 00:08:31 know the year of I'm playing for not have the Josh as a
Starting point is 00:08:35 champion, I wanted I really my partner to my
Starting point is 00:08:38 partner and I knew he wanted that he had he
Starting point is 00:08:42 had consagr the champion this but But, but it's
Starting point is 00:08:47 also, you know, to the bad phase, uh, and it was to consangue to be the first year he's going to have a way
Starting point is 00:08:55 too, we're going to be in time, but it's a merit of him, has been succeeded. Josh, is a car
Starting point is 00:09:02 very hard, who I'm very very confident, I'd want to get this a lot, but he really,
Starting point is 00:09:06 he really, he's superior and started victorious, and, came to come of the champion of this
Starting point is 00:09:10 year, but I believe that the next the next time we will have a scenario
Starting point is 00:09:14 difference. It was much going to literally because yeah in the first of the year we're the duel of
Starting point is 00:09:21 the NFL and the BELATO the imp he will affect the Vadienkobe that's a big big a big
Starting point is 00:09:27 big thing to finish the year to finish the year of this question was the realtor this enchurcation new of talent
Starting point is 00:09:40 entering in the PFL these super luts between champions I don't see in the
Starting point is 00:09:45 way I don't see I don't see that's all the PFL but I don't know exactly how will
Starting point is 00:09:55 how they're going to do with this company now I'm going to I'm I'm sure that I'm sure
Starting point is 00:10:03 that's a competitively will be more difficult there will be there's a guy good there's
Starting point is 00:10:09 a guy for the for the lot of the sport, too. To do you think in February
Starting point is 00:10:18 will have an event special between champions, will have the champion of every year, it's in
Starting point is 00:10:23 the first you said, the beginning of the beginning, it's a beginning, so it's a good,
Starting point is 00:10:30 because it's a thing we don't go to do you know, championing and it's a thing,
Starting point is 00:10:36 it's a thing with the other the thing, it's not, it's not it's not
Starting point is 00:10:40 not going to and see, at least, the other events, you're seeing this way of this way of this challenge, yeah, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:10:48 see, I'm, I'm sorry, to see this result. It's a strategy, to be a way to put in February also,
Starting point is 00:10:54 but, but, it exists a lot of the body, so, so if you get in the
Starting point is 00:10:59 final, there are, four, if you'd if you'd be a lot of, there would, would be
Starting point is 00:11:03 five luts in many months, so, for this we're not, not, We're going to hold the
Starting point is 00:11:13 but I'm anxious to to see, but I'm there's a lot there's a guy that's a lot of
Starting point is 00:11:20 a lot of and you're with other the BFL I think to do all to turn to more
Starting point is 00:11:27 reconn'teded and have even more value in the market of the lot. They're
Starting point is 00:11:35 they're a vogue for a car to sundar a vanguard a vanguard a
Starting point is 00:11:39 we're a we've talked a little about about this, but my
Starting point is 00:11:43 employer has cuted in the initial, because, po, I'm going to be in the legion,
Starting point is 00:11:48 and then, it's exigid of our body, during the time, so,
Starting point is 00:11:54 that every two months you do you do it, then it's it's much, and it's better to
Starting point is 00:11:59 be to get a time, and, and, I'd with more a centurance.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And what you think that will bring difficulty, so, the check of
Starting point is 00:12:09 the me-meo-pess to this tournament to the year. We don't know how many of Bellator will enter in the
Starting point is 00:12:16 time in the year, but you think that this makes more grandios a conquest of a pro se,
Starting point is 00:12:24 being a champion of the NFL and is a thing a very difficult because you have to do various actions of new talents
Starting point is 00:12:32 coming to Belator can do make a piece but the Belator was a organization also a great the prestige of the sport, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I think it's it's it's going to it more competitive uh, we're
Starting point is 00:12:46 we're going great lot of in Belator we're there's great lot of
Starting point is 00:12:50 the NFL and this union there will turn a thing more difficult, even more
Starting point is 00:12:55 competitive that's better for the public now the public will say
Starting point is 00:12:58 going much with it and we will have there good
Starting point is 00:13:01 there I'll I'll say also I was also in the PFL,
Starting point is 00:13:08 which also is very good for the sport. And even there's a guy who came in the dopin
Starting point is 00:13:12 also during this time after that even the campaigner of the time past. So I think
Starting point is 00:13:19 is that more, the PFL is growing more, evolving and going through the
Starting point is 00:13:26 coming right. And you think you be a champion of the PFL in
Starting point is 00:13:31 in 2024, how is that has been a piece has been a person,
Starting point is 00:13:35 many people, the fans more casualers, uh, the UFC is the world of the champion the NFL,
Starting point is 00:13:41 who's the champion the bellator there's like a way, like this is a vision of these fans. Now, just having two
Starting point is 00:13:47 events with a force more, the don't the NFL and Don Davis bathe much in the tex that they have
Starting point is 00:13:54 the same number of the titles rankiated now in top 25 compared to the UFC that this
Starting point is 00:13:59 take a force to the planel. You think the fans more casuals, the fans
Starting point is 00:14:03 that not accompanied these organizations before. Now, when two events of force to uniting,
Starting point is 00:14:10 they're doing, they're not, the guy became a champion, but look, look, now, how it was,
Starting point is 00:14:15 how it's, the fact it's the fact that is a far at the time, he will always say, you
Starting point is 00:14:21 are the better and that he's the people, he's the event more an event more than,
Starting point is 00:14:27 the NFL, is an event more new, but you see, many migrations,
Starting point is 00:14:30 like, like, athletes that were the FC who were a champion of the FC
Starting point is 00:14:35 or contender that were to other events and they're super bad so much there's
Starting point is 00:14:43 not so know that's not quite not there because no there's that kind of something
Starting point is 00:14:48 in the so are very very d' no atoll we have much
Starting point is 00:14:52 this in PFL we have this and I think now I think now I'm
Starting point is 00:14:57 now I'm these So, this is very important. Grands norms, with certainty that's important
Starting point is 00:15:05 to aggregate in the sport and the PFL now is working for this. The UFC, without, there are great
Starting point is 00:15:12 lotters, but, but, the Pellator and PFL, I don't see as a second division,
Starting point is 00:15:21 no. I see it like, I'm very Parenthood there, there are many lot in the top
Starting point is 00:15:27 10 there, the PFL, as the Belator, as the foot of the UFC also. And it's that
Starting point is 00:15:33 a lot of people get a lot of a lot of people but in the end of the country is a lot of you're a professional you're a lot you're looking
Starting point is 00:15:42 to get into money. It's what the Americanians you're doing to put a money on the table,
Starting point is 00:15:47 you're going to get a you guarantee the future. And in many years of in various years in the UFC, not?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Be more. Be more. Very more. So, it's important too, because it's the recognition of the athlete.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And they have a job, they do a work very well very good with the athletes, I don't have to say to
Starting point is 00:16:11 the FL, I've always very well very much very good so I'm very so very so very
Starting point is 00:16:18 really, financially was infinitely better for me. It's interesting when you came to the FCC
Starting point is 00:16:24 had a club, the and now who has a group is BFL you're the guy who is the guy who is
Starting point is 00:16:30 the other and, poor, it's in the NFL the year and maybe we can't have been, and we're
Starting point is 00:16:33 in a whole, we can't imagine a lot of a real in a global with a
Starting point is 00:16:37 man-in-a- thing, it would be to do that, and it would be adorah. And, the globe is
Starting point is 00:16:45 a great company that's a great company, who is the PFL. The F.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Kro-Nan also, came up quite, for having came out from the global-sat
Starting point is 00:16:56 here in combat, many, many, many people They've left to assist me. And they're
Starting point is 00:17:00 to watchy, or other events who are in the show, and now have all to do you know about all right now.
Starting point is 00:17:08 We're going to go to get a talk with Ghibors of Durin and Lucas Almeida, Lucas, this, that's the
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Starting point is 00:18:10 On the other side of the line, we have Gilles, we're doing the other than, man. Thank you, for your time, more than a way. It's always a pleasure to start with you. How many things for there? Imagine, I don't see coarsing of anxiety to finally go out to get in a porrada, yeah, God.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm just going to be, just to go back, to train, I'm, like, I'm feeling well. Ombo's zeroed and be training, just, like, it's a lot of joy. and now now I'm a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:18:35 no way to do that not to do that not to make to get to get to get this, just to gain this was,
Starting point is 00:18:44 it was a work-so, but I'm trying, I'm trying trying to get to in the shape
Starting point is 00:18:51 good even, you know, like I'm doing three of doing nothing not, not to do you never to
Starting point is 00:18:56 do you the armro and the real my arm was a whole, my arm was a pendurated
Starting point is 00:19:00 over the ligament so if if I forcass any something, would be
Starting point is 00:19:04 to start the ligament, then it would be to be in a year, then I was in a year, then I'm in
Starting point is 00:19:09 a year, there'd be not, putt, then it's not that's, then more anxious, coming more, making more,
Starting point is 00:19:16 I'm going to, like, I'm in this war, to get the person, to get the shape,
Starting point is 00:19:21 there, and I'm, not, not in a way, I'm not, I'm more trying to
Starting point is 00:19:25 get in form. Well, imagine, that, I've been been, have been anxious, because
Starting point is 00:19:31 you're a guy who like to to fight to work in a four months, you have to
Starting point is 00:19:34 get to get to be not a lot of even more even more of you know, even more you're not
Starting point is 00:19:40 been in the UFC, you've been in the UFC, via the world, various editions,
Starting point is 00:19:45 was always there's always in South Paulo, porro, in the world, and start
Starting point is 00:19:51 in that email, it was this goshtin to be, yeah, I'm back,
Starting point is 00:19:55 yeah, I'll go, would be back, then, in the real, this
Starting point is 00:20:00 this phase final I was going and she was doing, therapy, he was maligning and was doing
Starting point is 00:20:06 more things but the wrong was before it was when I was when I was when I was in-case
Starting point is 00:20:13 and then I was getting into like I'm like I'm like I'm going to do I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:18 do this time that I didn't have because I could do something until I'm to get
Starting point is 00:20:23 a routine that for some some was a psychological like car
Starting point is 00:20:27 my mom no I don't possibly I'm like, I'm a guy very positive so it's a
Starting point is 00:20:34 difficult I'm in a depre, so I'm going to be in a little bit more I'm going to do you know,
Starting point is 00:20:42 that's the thing that's that I'm not put him back to train and then I had to get to get a
Starting point is 00:20:50 house, I'm doing the house, I'm coming the young to the men who were the men who
Starting point is 00:20:55 two children were with a time of a time some jogging, they were training every day, had trained,
Starting point is 00:21:01 put a man with a trainer in house, I'd go to get to the school, I'd like, it's a part
Starting point is 00:21:07 you know, that's a part, you know, and I'm sorry, the day and it's a day to do-door to do-of-the-cats,
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'd prefer to work to train-mah, but, now I'm going to train-ah, then I've that my numbers
Starting point is 00:21:20 in the media social were being back- much, you know, because I was doing much because I was
Starting point is 00:21:24 doing much the time, and I, when I, when I, a reunion with the team, also, we've resolved to
Starting point is 00:21:29 go to travel, and to the events, to do more content of YouTube and so. And then, I was,
Starting point is 00:21:36 when I was it was a good, he could be going to to train, and now, I'm going to get a 100%, without a door.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And now I'm just thinking at the next future, I think I need to a time more,
Starting point is 00:21:49 I'm not to say, I'm not to say, I'm not a time for I really to come in
Starting point is 00:21:54 form, and it's going to be March, day 9 of March has the 299, it's one
Starting point is 00:21:59 that I'm the if not if not there the UFC 300 also I'm I'm going to be able to get up on the
Starting point is 00:22:07 I think I think I'm I think this year this week the Saturday about 299
Starting point is 00:22:14 and after of this I'm going to be able to who will be doing this middle I've worked
Starting point is 00:22:19 to I did I did I've done the LFIA two times I'm going to
Starting point is 00:22:24 this going to be here in Las Vegas on Saturday, on a 6th. So I'm, like, I didn't start to work. I, I'm doing a father,
Starting point is 00:22:33 donor to work, and then I was a commentarice, and then I started doing a bunch of appearance, like,
Starting point is 00:22:39 just, I continued working for a carabiding to be a lot of that you. Uh-huh. Well,
Starting point is 00:22:44 you said, you know, the event this time can define there's many things, not so the
Starting point is 00:22:49 champion, but it's to be the top 10 because it's probably to the world in action,
Starting point is 00:22:54 it will be in the little bit of the Loneathers against the Cobbitton, there's the Chavkato Ramonov against Stephen Thompson,
Starting point is 00:23:03 there's Vincent Luke, against the Yorgherry, there's even there in the Ranger Brown against the Mosin Salikov
Starting point is 00:23:09 is a it's a night that will define the next the next the next month the rums
Starting point is 00:23:15 the division will be much yeah will make much yeah there was the week last
Starting point is 00:23:21 they retraser against the Kelvin Gaston, is a guy who solified in top
Starting point is 00:23:26 10, he said the Yang Gehry see the Yan Garry got to Vincente but
Starting point is 00:23:32 let me see, there's a category think the category will get I think the
Starting point is 00:23:39 Colby will get the Kobe will get a superluta that he is very
Starting point is 00:23:43 really really really really really so you like what you
Starting point is 00:23:47 want to the champion you just just with your objective now
Starting point is 00:23:51 I would do it, I would have made money. So I think if the Kobe will be able to all the other with a lot with him with a lot of a lot of him to
Starting point is 00:23:59 try and he wants to do it. And he's a manned, so he has a man to get this. So,
Starting point is 00:24:06 even the two of the two, they're both a lot of a lot, so, neither the
Starting point is 00:24:11 Colby, nor Lian, but I think for the category to continue to continue if the Lion
Starting point is 00:24:16 was to get, it would be better to get more as a At times, also, for entertainment, it's
Starting point is 00:24:22 better if you can win. I don't even see in the UFC, what are that gain. But there's much to happen, so I think, I think, I think, you know what Leonez will gain, I think the Stephen Thompson will gain, I think, I
Starting point is 00:24:32 think it's a war, but I think the Vicent and in the other there, the other, the other, and the Selecove is coming in a moment very good, I think the Salikov
Starting point is 00:24:42 could get a new guy in the round of Brow, and make sure a lot. For you, what is the, uh, the a lot that you more to be
Starting point is 00:24:50 the other for your next adversary. Because you know, to spot the stodran in your
Starting point is 00:24:56 your next your next but you think you know of the other other than the guy who got
Starting point is 00:25:01 the Gerey who got to he thinks this look and this this is the lot that I would like
Starting point is 00:25:06 to be my my next my next part. I want the guy has more
Starting point is 00:25:11 the guy has more rankeated there so if I could choose I prefer to talk to the Cubbe
Starting point is 00:25:17 I think that Leon will be to come, but then, like, it depends just of me. First, the first
Starting point is 00:25:22 the war to be going to get to get to be and then to see, I think to see the
Starting point is 00:25:28 my only thing is that maybe the UFC 299 be in Miami. Not is confirmed
Starting point is 00:25:33 yet, but I think they're being in Miami. And the Kobe and then
Starting point is 00:25:40 got far the, the, the the cinturon there, and perhaps
Starting point is 00:25:44 offer some he in Miami, maybe maybe, maybe I'll think he
Starting point is 00:25:49 I would have this other? Ah, I think the guy I just put a three times and you know, I think he'll think he
Starting point is 00:25:57 will think very financially there's not looking at lot over the event with an event I don't
Starting point is 00:26:03 see. But it's my my main my main hope is to get this
Starting point is 00:26:09 this lute and if it's not not this lot then we'll have to give a
Starting point is 00:26:14 pass in back back there maybe maybe I'm against against
Starting point is 00:26:16 someone that's that's getting there's a pick of those guys good
Starting point is 00:26:21 are going and then after a lot of a lot of a lot of a guy of a man
Starting point is 00:26:27 great to be a for just to be not you want to be two but have to
Starting point is 00:26:34 be two not too top five there not too and then after the other
Starting point is 00:26:40 guy. A man a man great that you don't not set with a possibility
Starting point is 00:26:43 of the J.N. Gary that will confront Vincent Luke.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Luke. You obviously, want that the Vincent's Luke gain of him. But you think he's a lot. I accept this. I'm a madame if he gain.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I just think not it's if he'll get let's say, let's say a lot fast, I think not I'm not caught him the vicente,
Starting point is 00:27:04 I think he not caught him too pesed to the contrary is the contrary. I think he's a lot very bad man very very,
Starting point is 00:27:11 second, third round, if Vincent, insert the the fact, the fact, he will knockoutia, So I think if he
Starting point is 00:27:19 Giac, Vincent, not be, like, like, not be, like, it's a war that's a
Starting point is 00:27:24 lot of, like, like, like that victory that's pretty going to get a top five. For that I
Starting point is 00:27:32 think it's, but, if he won't goate, if he gained well, I think he could even
Starting point is 00:27:38 be to be so far, so, that he's that I know that I don't leave to one
Starting point is 00:27:41 to a side enemy, I don't go to a lot creon, so I I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:47 I think in this, because I think he don't want to get this way, but it's a possibility. I was having
Starting point is 00:27:55 an interview from a Gary to the channel Encara and he commenting that he came to some point out of
Starting point is 00:28:01 the back to the weird to be a little weird because he's trying to he's
Starting point is 00:28:05 your partner but they were talking about you about it if you were if you were if you were
Starting point is 00:28:10 if you were so you're so, so, it's a that's that's I was a job,
Starting point is 00:28:13 right? How was this encounter with him with this man, it was that I saw he, I saw that
Starting point is 00:28:20 he was in, I saw that he was going to get to be in a bit more, I said, I don't train with you
Starting point is 00:28:25 now, I'm going to listen to like, like, no, I'm going to talk,
Starting point is 00:28:29 no, no, I'm going, I'm going, let's try let's try let's try idea, but
Starting point is 00:28:33 no, but you know, but you know, but you know, but I'm saying, but,
Starting point is 00:28:39 but, but, but, but, not, like, I, he said,
Starting point is 00:28:44 then he said, he said, but if we were going to, I said, no, no, don't have this.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Like, it was, he had to be going to be going to be able. And if the guys, me offer to
Starting point is 00:28:53 you, I'm going to hear this, you know, he's, he's, he's, he could
Starting point is 00:28:59 hear this, I said, I'm going, we're going, to be to roll, and I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think, that you're going to be able to be going to But I think he not will gain well,
Starting point is 00:29:10 if he's going to win, you know, if we're going to Vincent's there, it's like I'm going to I'm going to be the hand in Vicent is very more pesada.
Starting point is 00:29:20 If you're in a moment of a troca-sanca Frank, the Vicente no I don't have there, I think, the time is curted this event
Starting point is 00:29:28 will have been the defense of the centuron of Alexander and the Roeval, you, because is very collated in Pantorja,
Starting point is 00:29:35 the family of you are always always Juntas. You were there when he gained the centuron? What's your expectation of his revenge? In the first round, he passed the car in the band of Roeval, but the guy
Starting point is 00:29:46 improved a lot more than he caught on the last night of his your expectation for this for this lot? I think the Roevaldudel, he's is a little bit more than a joel periguer and I thought that the Nicolau would have
Starting point is 00:29:58 got a little jolladown and didn't get over. Not able to recoverer. I think when I don't I can't, I I think, but I think the I think the mulek will come,
Starting point is 00:30:08 I'm imagining I'm in a rematch against, I see, like, against a guy that's, he got in the center of the centuron,
Starting point is 00:30:16 I know, I know that's in a good in a role, but I think the Jiu-Jitsu of Pantoggi is superior.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I think, in the a troyo is very perigoso, there's a good, it's more out, it's chate,
Starting point is 00:30:30 it's a man a guy, a man chatt to the guy, doing a job certain and if not the way to
Starting point is 00:30:36 say in the hand, if I'm going to do that will get a end up and will be in it's a lot
Starting point is 00:30:42 chata, because I can make a place to look in the role of Benno Roeval, imagine,
Starting point is 00:30:46 but now it's been in a middle, like the the muck will come for all that will
Starting point is 00:30:54 be more difficult, but I'm going to be a lot of a lot of a lot of my children
Starting point is 00:30:59 my children that, my children, will be be more a final of seminar
Starting point is 00:31:03 that, On the other side of the line we're still in Lucas Almada that's the same Saturday, my friend, my friend, my friend of the other things here on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:31:17 like how are you talk about this next next time? Hello, my friend, be there, I'm going to be able to be talking to again, and I'm going to show my
Starting point is 00:31:27 my job, to show me, to show why I'm doing, you know, in the UFC, I'm a man who's a man to,
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm a, I'm a man to go, I'm a friend that, it's aggressive and that's what I want to show you like I'm going to show you
Starting point is 00:31:41 how you're in a anxiety there's a lot of because you're putting a lot marked by September and it got to get a expectation there to be in the F.C. San Paulo,
Starting point is 00:31:51 in an roll-or imagine that I'm with a form of to, to, yeah, man,
Starting point is 00:31:58 I was with a lot of the marcada to to fight in France, and the The last was I was I was ready
Starting point is 00:32:05 I was in the week in the week in the month I did a camp complete, not was just to get a
Starting point is 00:32:11 little bit more in the same that we had never the time that's not it not been I'm recupered
Starting point is 00:32:17 I'm recupered I'm in a time parable to me recuperate of my lesion but I
Starting point is 00:32:21 went I got I'm going and I'm getting a lot of the lot of
Starting point is 00:32:26 then we didn't get this I'm didn't know if you didn't Marked my
Starting point is 00:32:34 this year even even. Even when they're I thought that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:32:40 not even and markar the lot in a event in the last year in the last the number of the end of
Starting point is 00:32:47 Andrew Fili a guy that I would be canceled too, was cancelled too this lot of
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm glad with him is a person is a person who is a person who
Starting point is 00:32:57 does the show too that's like I'm I'm like I love of a front
Starting point is 00:33:03 I'm, I'm going to my job, you know, a lot of aggressive, it's a , I'm happy
Starting point is 00:33:07 to do to fight with him, I'm motivated, this guy me motivated, a train every day
Starting point is 00:33:12 very strong, uh, study, study a lot, study much a study much the game, and,
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, you've got, you, you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:33:22 you know, a point that you thought that you thought that didn't, I'm, because?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Ah, we had had been the lutes, we're, we're, to fight in the FC San Paulo,
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'd like to, uh, for me to know, in the reality, even, didn't, need to be
Starting point is 00:33:36 to be in F.C. San Paulo. Now, I'm going to where it doesn't know. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'd appear, yeah, I'd like, I'd like, yeah, but I'm, yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:46 the, yeah, in Paris, uh, in France, that I, no, I'm,
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm not, I'm, was a thing was a thing there was a thing there was and then,
Starting point is 00:33:55 yeah, I, I, yeah, I'd there, but, oh, not was not I'm not
Starting point is 00:34:04 really, I'm at least, I'm at least, I'm not, but I'm, not, I'm not never,
Starting point is 00:34:09 the UFC didn't have said the nothing. Then, then, then, they're,
Starting point is 00:34:14 they're going to this lot there, and when we think, yeah, that's not that's not,
Starting point is 00:34:21 man, I'm, I was bidding for God to be to God, to me, to be done
Starting point is 00:34:25 in this card, I was to be the world, there, one of the one of the one of the
Starting point is 00:34:30 one of the only the only the so lot of so I wanted to put I'm I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:34:36 love to this card that's why my friend who is Rodolf my life and I'm gonna cause it's
Starting point is 00:34:52 the new I was a lottoe yeah I'm gonna be in-cima if you were maybe in-cimae if for vered five months
Starting point is 00:34:58 before the lot. But I was I was ready I was training like it like I'm in like I'm
Starting point is 00:35:02 going to be not a lot of it's not difficult to do a strategy to do that you have,
Starting point is 00:35:10 what was you have, who you took to the car to my my
Starting point is 00:35:12 my my my my my my legion on
Starting point is 00:35:16 my and yeah had this lesion and there was too
Starting point is 00:35:21 but but we prefer I prefer to say the but
Starting point is 00:35:26 I was being of a derot and not was 100%, so, my trainer, I don't want to go to get to any moment,
Starting point is 00:35:33 no moment I'd want to desisting, but the our team here, I have a team gigante here, a guy guy that's with me
Starting point is 00:35:40 that's going to go, we're the better to go, because, you've just just got to a lot,
Starting point is 00:35:49 you know, but you're going to get a good, that was a person who was that were to be
Starting point is 00:35:54 a person to be a cent to to be a Then I, I, I, I, I talked with Valise also,
Starting point is 00:35:59 the Valise also found out of the other. You said that you said, he said, he was a guy who was in front
Starting point is 00:36:06 before, so the strategy just was maybe he that was going that was out of the fight, and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:36:14 ask, what is the way, but you see you see, you see, the game of you're a
Starting point is 00:36:18 very different, the guy is a, poor, port, you know, what are the most of the
Starting point is 00:36:23 most of the most of the challenges that he you try you try to the adversary. Yes,
Starting point is 00:36:27 man, so, all the time of God, when I would be able to I think I'm not
Starting point is 00:36:33 ready to know, to look at a man who an man so much, so, but for the
Starting point is 00:36:40 UFC to think it's really in me, my, my ball that I have know, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'm a guy aggressive, that I go to go to to look to to him, a guy
Starting point is 00:36:49 just was the fifth to rank, but that was I think I was that I
Starting point is 00:36:53 was not was done. God made me prepare better better I'm going to pass
Starting point is 00:36:58 for a lot and I'm like I see that I know that I would be able to work with him
Starting point is 00:37:04 and I'm I'm a other person I'm I'm not my training moved up I've
Starting point is 00:37:11 back to my city to I'm I was I was I'm not I'm
Starting point is 00:37:15 not overing in Sorokabba I went here to my city I did my camp
Starting point is 00:37:18 complete here I did some intercambos there in San Paulo but I did my camp complete here with the team
Starting point is 00:37:26 that made I get to the UFC when I entered in the UFC I came moving to the city to be able to get to be
Starting point is 00:37:33 because of my patronic also but it happened there happened a lot that was canceled and I came back
Starting point is 00:37:40 to Sono Kaba and I did my camp complete here and I'm happy to be in my
Starting point is 00:37:47 city, you know, part of my family, part of my family, part of my I'm with my
Starting point is 00:37:51 my family all the day now I'm going just seeing a lot of she's with my
Starting point is 00:37:57 master with Valdeer is the people who they've always they've been really
Starting point is 00:38:03 really there's no there's we're not we're we're championing
Starting point is 00:38:10 of kickibox here champion of jiujitsu poe there's no good here there's
Starting point is 00:38:15 where I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm here,
Starting point is 00:38:18 again, representing the city again, the new, you know, I have a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:38:25 and it's been doing to live where? You had to go to mor where where you had gone to go to
Starting point is 00:38:34 work in tapetina. Uh-huh. And what didn't do not so much not so I'm not
Starting point is 00:38:39 not so, but I'm doing my training was there like, what did what did
Starting point is 00:38:44 so that you did not what you did do certain? tapetining, no canyot to to train him, a canyot original. I'm, I'm
Starting point is 00:38:54 a guy who studs a lot, and I see that, like, if you don't train with a canhoto, natural, it's different if you're trying to a guy who will be a canyot, will help you in the train, like, oh, I'll help you, will help you, look, will
Starting point is 00:39:08 be a canyot, no is the same thing that you train with a canyot. And like in Sorocaba, in a city that I always moved, there, has a The name of Lucas, also, it's Lucas, also. He, he is
Starting point is 00:39:23 Canyot. And, man, he, today in kickbox is the best world, he was champion world of kickbox, now in Arabia, oh, I've been, in all the world,
Starting point is 00:39:33 it's the best, po, today, boy, today is the world, he's the first, he's a little more more peser than I,
Starting point is 00:39:40 but, like, he's, he is, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'm coming to to come to to come to to train with him. Because, po, here the guys just were
Starting point is 00:39:49 training all the day, yeah, yeah, the team professional monta- and I came here to to appreciate
Starting point is 00:39:55 of him, and I'm going to much of the training. And I was feeling about to be
Starting point is 00:40:00 long from my family, and I talked with my trainer there to Patentinaina and I
Starting point is 00:40:06 resolved all and I got back and I think I feel like for the I'm
Starting point is 00:40:10 because, poor, he's, this that I said, this man, this man, this man,
Starting point is 00:40:14 this man, he's a a lot of athletes here. It's nice for carambo the train. I've seen a
Starting point is 00:40:19 evolution gigantic for me. And you think that's that area is a matter that can be the
Starting point is 00:40:24 differential in a other than a lot of a lot of under the other than
Starting point is 00:40:28 we've worked a really, I'm a I'm a only the box also.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's a thing that I think I think I think I did a lot in doing
Starting point is 00:40:40 sequence and of hand and and perna and I I'm going to I think I'm not trying to not training a
Starting point is 00:40:47 not really in Tapetina even I didn't trainable kickbox I'd trainable just box I'd we've got a
Starting point is 00:40:55 trainer of box to train my box now the my box always was the my most but I'm always I always
Starting point is 00:41:03 I always I always I never I'm able a little this and now now well I
Starting point is 00:41:10 I did, I did a camp in the selection in the selection Brazilian of kick-box also, we went there, we went there, we've got a
Starting point is 00:41:17 week, training with the best of the world, uh, my master invited, I went to
Starting point is 00:41:22 I, I went, and I went in the telephone Brazilian because I'm the I'm the game,
Starting point is 00:41:29 box, the guy, me know, he's got, me know, we've done a camp there,
Starting point is 00:41:34 I, I've got, my origin, you know, my sequence, I, I, I think,
Starting point is 00:41:38 I think I had I had been a little more less less than a new thing you can't run the head the guy but I'm
Starting point is 00:41:47 I'm more I'm more I'm going to do I'm doing to do my sequences I'm feeling very confiante
Starting point is 00:41:54 in my kickbox for having been in my raise and you see that come in
Starting point is 00:42:00 a knockout when Andrea Fiel then this vaults there's so man I will be I'm going to go back the time all
Starting point is 00:42:06 but my my chown also I I've worked very, I've worked my Jiu-Jitsu. Independent,
Starting point is 00:42:12 where it's the fight on the or in- I'm going to be trying to finish this this is the
Starting point is 00:42:22 my methodology my, my way, always always be always to be looking to end with the fight.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I have a certain that will be a war because it's a man a man an guy
Starting point is 00:42:32 an person a person who, you know, a guy to be to you know, man, you know, I'm still with
Starting point is 00:42:41 trying to try and I'm sure that I'm going to be able to show my job in my time of a guy like him, and the plan now is, po,
Starting point is 00:42:49 to wince this and I'm getting to get to a sequence, because, po, in the last year, there were,
Starting point is 00:42:54 four, put, four, lots of , I imagine that I'm going to be in a porrada more a bit.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yeah, po, it's a foda, today, I received a message on Instagram and a
Starting point is 00:43:05 the lotator of the UFC from my category and saying if the the fight if he would
Starting point is 00:43:12 like if the guy desisted of the he'd be able to like it's fos
Starting point is 00:43:18 the guys yeah like you like you look like I don't know what happened you cancelar
Starting point is 00:43:25 a lot of my it was it was it was it was the last
Starting point is 00:43:30 but the with Andre's with I was I had me and then
Starting point is 00:43:35 he was it was also it's been so this this lot of the other that was canceled this was
Starting point is 00:43:42 this was to happen to happen it was to pass it now so I think I think I'm I'm in a
Starting point is 00:43:47 better to be a person of a person but he just he just he passed for everything
Starting point is 00:43:54 he's what he had to pass he just he's past he's already I'm going to show
Starting point is 00:44:02 to show what I I have, I'm, what he had to show, he had
Starting point is 00:44:05 to have been to show, I'm in it's a time, it's a my way,
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm in, my way, I think put, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:16 I've got, I'm 20 Lutas, I have, two, like, now, you've,
Starting point is 00:44:21 you just, you just, you've had your chance, now, now, now, and I'm,
Starting point is 00:44:24 and I'm focused on this, I'm focused in, poor, get there, go,
Starting point is 00:44:29 to, and get a knockout and to get a finalization the time whole
Starting point is 00:44:33 as I always I'm not I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:44:40 need to because I know that I'm like the style of yeah like this
Starting point is 00:44:45 start I'm gonna go to go to front that I'm I don't be afraid
Starting point is 00:44:50 to say in a porrada if if you're if you're still now
Starting point is 00:44:53 I'm I'm not not trained so I'm my my legion my
Starting point is 00:44:58 and I'm getting a greply and then this thing was, it was foe after my lesion
Starting point is 00:45:05 I'm focused in recuperate my my joey now is so doing my jiuitso
Starting point is 00:45:12 I'm doing the guys too I'm oh it's da ha ha yeah, he's
Starting point is 00:45:18 he's just got on the top of you know like you like you said you
Starting point is 00:45:22 like you said you said man man he's but he's
Starting point is 00:45:25 but he's just got no limit of him he he's he's that he
Starting point is 00:45:28 not pass and you get him now your first of the first of your
Starting point is 00:45:32 to get to pass to him and get to where he not could get to get the the
Starting point is 00:45:38 goals more out of the yeah so so I'm passing the RET my
Starting point is 00:45:44 will look will look to know to me yeah so
Starting point is 00:45:48 so you see you yeah yeah yeah I think I think
Starting point is 00:45:51 the I think the I think that I'm getting well the first the first
Starting point is 00:45:57 the first I ended not soltowing my game no, I'm not I'm not not really
Starting point is 00:46:03 the guy got to know the my job and I think they want to see how
Starting point is 00:46:09 I'm going to be like I'm a camp complete the lot of the FC
Starting point is 00:46:14 yeah more in a year I think the UFC that is that is they've
Starting point is 00:46:19 got a great name so a man a man an person who
Starting point is 00:46:24 in terms in in decadence because because, po, I'm, yeah, now,
Starting point is 00:46:28 it's, poor, the ultimate he's , I think they're going to get there's a
Starting point is 00:46:34 time, and I'm going to do I'm going to think so, I'm going to do it, they're doing,
Starting point is 00:46:41 want to be show, can't be a year, it's that I'm going to get there's a question of podcast,
Starting point is 00:46:48 I'm saying to make the guy of the Zapato, Gilbert Durno, Lucas Duhmede, and the
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