MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Cara de Sapato de volta ao MMA (+ Durinho analisa UFC 296)
Episode Date: December 13, 2023Ex-BBB, campeão do TUF e da PFL, “Cara de Sapato” revelou ao Trocação Franca que finalmente voltará aos palcos do MMA em 2024. Na entrevista, o lutador falou sobre a vida como celebridade pós...-reality show, a compra do Bellator pela PFL, a vida fora do UFC, e muito mais. O programa recebe ainda Gilbert Durinho, que analisa as principais lutas da sua divisão no UFC 296, e Lucas Almeida, representante brasileiro no card diante de Andre Fili. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Former Big Brother Brasil contestant, TUF winner, and PFL champion Antonio Carlos Jr. announced on this week’s Trocação Franca that he’s finally returning to MMA for the 2024 PFL season. “Shoeface” discussed life as a celebrity post-Big Brother, PFL acquiring Bellator, and much more. Gilbert Burns also joins the program to break down the top welterweight matches at Saturday’s UFC 269 event, and Lucas Almeida discusses his upcoming bout with Andre Fili. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Senoras and Seniors,
in command of the podcast,
Trocaation Franca,
and representing the MMA Fighting
in Brazil,
Guillermo!
Cruz.
Hello, hello,
my friend of
19th,
the podcast
The Oka San Francisco
Franca,
A's your
house about
MMA is
immense
both of the
sphere.
I'm Glearm
Chris,
correspondent
of the site
American
M.M.A.
Fahlerin
and I'm
back in the
company of
Gilbert Durin
who wrote to
the podcast
to analyze
the UFC
296
that rola
in Las Vegas.
But,
but we
try come a
idea with
a car
of a chapato,
ex-campion
of BFC
that was
celebrity
after
after
to participate of
Well, but, but then, my friend, how is it a life of celebrity,
how is it a big brother?
Oh, man, it's a carrieve to
for a carrieve, you know,
went to be a lot of course happening,
I don't parr, the time to do
this point a era,
I'm going to roll out, Miami, Brazil,
the time total, but it's just,
but I'm part of the job,
I'm happy with this moment.
Mania, car, there's a lot of stuff
that you're doing in the life,
where's where it's in the same thing,
how are the plans to do you know,
mea?
Well,
then I
didn't participate
that was
this,
including one of
the
why I
decided to
like I
did the
surgery in
the
I knew that
I didn't
get to
time to
the time
to get to
then I'm
let's participate
to the
other
then I
ended,
but the
plans now
is to
go back
the
time
so I'm
not me
can be
the year
be the
year
and I'm
here in
Salvador
I'm
never
paro, in fact,
I don't
I can't
stop.
It's,
it's,
it's always,
we're always
trying to train
a little
and I'm doing
a surgery, but
I'm here in
Salvador now,
training with Professor
Doria,
I'm going to
go back to
get a
little bit of
my head,
with the
family and
all right.
In January,
I'll
go back to
American
Top Team
to start
to start
a training
very specific
to the lute.
It's
confirmed
in the
year of the
year that
the FFL
Yeah
we have this
time
I'm anxious
to lot
but I'm in
a time
I'm in
lot due to
due to
the surgery
and so I
couldn't
not put to
and the
PFL
it's not
like other
events
that are
other events
have done
the season
there
the season
there the
time
that's
maybe
maybe
to be
maybe
maybe
we can't
we can
be able
to be
to be
to
to get
well,
you know,
while this
we're just
developing,
training, and
to get in the
way to get in the
way to get
a lot of the
MMA.
You're a
guy who'd
be in Jiu-Nitz,
you were in
a day-Nive
M.A.
And when
came to M.
M.A.
It's been a
career meteorica,
me,
it's a career
accelerating
there to be
getting much
sufficient to
enter to enter
to Dufth
and then
was to
always always
always
always, but
it was always
but
But the lesion is a foe,
no, our
is a great
a problem
for the time
distant, of what
we're going to
do that we
have a pleasure
to do that's in
the life.
So it's really
difficult.
For that I
got other
other challenges
there in this
meh time,
because if not
it was a
little bit
malucco.
But it
did a lot.
I wanted
I really
wanted to
have been
really done
I'm really
never,
it was very
complicated
to do a
lot of
this year,
but I
just I'm
in contact
with the
people
of the NFL,
I'm organizing
to the year
next to be
we'll come
to do you know,
and doing the
part here,
training,
and developing,
and that's the
we're doing
with a life
new.
You're a
guy who's
a reality
show
before,
it was a
no,
it was a
global,
there was a
projection
a mania
but porre,
the stah
the stuff
is the first
degrade,
the big brother
is the
last decade
of the
level of
reality show,
you know,
you were to
top,
logo,
They're the reality show
most assisted the world
entire,
they really have
a visibility
very great,
so it was
cool that other
people who knew
the sport
also, passed to
know me
to know,
because at least
the guy has
there's a
kind of the
stereotype of the
lotator and
and they,
and they're
able to
more,
more intimate
possible in
my life,
and today
there's a
guy who
not accompany
the sport
that will
be doing
and torsending
with me.
you brought
a new
public
for the
MMA
you will
bring a
new public
to PFL
because when
you entered
on the Big Brother
you don't
have two
million
of followers
on Instagram
you are a
guy who
was known
for CDFC
was used
in the
our
bowl of the
UFC
now
you're
quite
you're
you
feel
a
responsibility
because of
this
also
you
represent
MMA
in the
big
brother
and
you
will
try
these
new
fans
to
to
I think I
feel like
I feel like
so I'm feeling
other people
who didn't
accompany a sport
that now
passable to
know
that I feel
that with
with this I feel
you're representing
very well
the sport
not
to do
make a sport
known
especially
here in
Brazil
so this
that's
me makes
very
very happy
and
have a
more
even with me
more even
more
even
Yeah, yeah.
Encararer more
a relative
in the
or shega?
Yeah,
I'm gonna
I feel
a lot of
much,
yeah,
I'm burmured
now,
it's not
in the time
and continue
in my
life
in the sport
who still
still have
a long
way to
and then
PFL
what you
what you
thought
of the
time
of the
year that
the end up
the camp
year and
again again
the
company of
America
top team
in
final,
got over
the car
the guy
that came
year,
you know,
the last
suffered a knockout
that viralized
in the FC
and now
the guy
millionaire,
the champion
of the
NFL
in the
balance general
of your
division
in the
organization,
what's
the
things of
the
the
campaigns that
we've seen
that we
know the
year of
I'm
playing
for not have
the
Josh
as a
champion,
I
wanted
I really
my
partner
to
my
partner
and I
knew
he
wanted
that he
had
he
had
consagr
the
champion
this
but
But,
but it's
also, you know, to the
bad phase,
uh,
and it was to
consangue
to be the first
year he's going to
have a way
too,
we're going to
be in time,
but it's a
merit of him,
has been succeeded.
Josh,
is a car
very hard,
who I'm very
very confident,
I'd
want to get
this a lot,
but he
really,
he really,
he's superior
and started
victorious,
and,
came to come
of the champion
of this
year,
but I believe
that the
next
the next
time we
will have
a scenario
difference.
It was much
going to
literally because
yeah in the
first of the
year we're
the duel of
the NFL
and the BELATO
the imp
he will affect
the Vadienkobe
that's a
big big
a big
big thing to
finish the
year to finish
the year of this
question was the
realtor
this enchurcation
new of talent
entering
in the PFL
these super
luts
between
champions
I don't see
in the
way
I don't see
I don't see
that's all the
PFL
but I don't
know exactly
how will
how they're
going to do
with this
company now
I'm going to
I'm
I'm sure that
I'm sure
that's a
competitively
will be
more difficult
there will be
there's a
guy good
there's
a guy
for the
for the
lot of the
sport,
too.
To do you
think in February
will have
an event
special
between champions,
will have the
champion of
every year,
it's in
the first
you said,
the beginning of
the beginning,
it's a
beginning,
so it's
a good,
because it's
a thing we
don't go
to do you
know,
championing
and it's
a thing,
it's a
thing with
the other
the
thing,
it's not,
it's not
it's not
not going to
and see, at least, the other events,
you're seeing this
way of this
way of this
challenge,
yeah,
I'm going to
see, I'm,
I'm sorry,
to see this
result.
It's a strategy,
to be a
way to put in
February also,
but,
but,
it exists
a lot of
the body,
so,
so if you
get in the
final,
there are,
four,
if you'd
if you'd
be a lot of,
there would,
would be
five luts in
many months,
so,
for this we're
not,
not,
We're going to
hold the
but I'm
anxious to
to see,
but I'm
there's a lot
there's a
guy that's
a lot of
a lot of
and you're
with other
the BFL
I think
to do all
to turn to
more
reconn'teded
and have
even more
value
in the market
of the
lot.
They're
they're
a vogue
for a
car
to sundar
a vanguard
a vanguard
a
we're
a
we've
talked
a
little about
about this,
but my
employer
has cuted
in the initial,
because,
po,
I'm going to
be in
the legion,
and then,
it's
exigid
of our
body,
during the
time,
so,
that every two
months you
do you
do it,
then it's
it's much,
and it's
better to
be to
get a
time,
and,
and,
I'd
with more
a centurance.
And what
you think
that will
bring
difficulty,
so,
the check
of
the
me-meo-pess to
this tournament to the year.
We don't know
how many of
Bellator
will enter
in the
time in the
year,
but you think
that this
makes more
grandios a
conquest of a
pro se,
being a champion
of the NFL
and is a
thing a very
difficult because you
have to do various
actions of
new talents
coming to Belator
can do
make a piece
but the Belator
was a organization
also a great
the prestige of the sport,
yeah.
I think
it's
it's
it's going to
it
more competitive
uh,
we're
we're going
great
lot of
in Belator
we're
there's
great
lot of
the NFL
and this
union
there will
turn a
thing more
difficult,
even more
competitive
that's
better for
the public
now the
public
will
say
going
much with
it
and we
will
have
there
good
there
I'll
I'll
say
also
I was
also
in the PFL,
which also is
very good
for the sport.
And even
there's a
guy who
came in the
dopin
also during
this time
after that
even the
campaigner of
the time
past.
So I think
is that
more, the
PFL
is growing
more,
evolving and
going through
the
coming
right.
And you
think you
be a
champion
of the
PFL in
in
2024,
how is
that has
been a
piece
has been
a person,
many
people,
the
fans more casualers,
uh,
the UFC is the
world of the
champion the NFL,
who's the champion
the bellator
there's like
a way,
like this is
a vision of these fans.
Now,
just having two
events with a
force more,
the don't
the NFL
and Don Davis
bathe much
in the tex
that they have
the same number
of the titles
rankiated
now in top
25
compared to
the UFC
that this
take a force
to the
planel.
You think
the fans
more
casuals,
the fans
that not
accompanied
these organizations
before.
Now,
when two events
of force
to uniting,
they're doing,
they're not,
the guy
became a champion,
but look,
look,
now,
how it was,
how it's,
the fact it's
the fact that
is a
far at
the time,
he will always
say, you
are the
better and
that he's the
people,
he's the
event more
an event
more than,
the NFL,
is an event
more
new,
but you
see,
many
migrations,
like,
like,
athletes that
were the FC
who were
a champion
of the
FC
or contender
that were
to other
events and
they're
super bad
so much
there's
not so
know that's
not quite
not there
because no
there's
that kind of
something
in the
so are
very
very d'
no
atoll
we have
much
this
in PFL
we have
this
and I think
now
I think
now I'm
now
I'm
these
So, this
is very important.
Grands norms,
with certainty
that's important
to aggregate
in the sport
and the PFL
now is working
for this.
The UFC,
without,
there are great
lotters,
but,
but,
the Pellator
and PFL,
I don't see
as a second
division,
no.
I see it like,
I'm very
Parenthood
there,
there are
many lot
in the top
10
there,
the PFL,
as the Belator,
as
the foot of the UFC
also.
And it's that
a lot of people
get a lot of
a lot of people
but in the end of
the country is a lot of
you're a professional
you're a lot
you're looking
to get into
money.
It's what the
Americanians
you're doing
to put a
money on the
table,
you're going to
get a
you guarantee the
future. And in
many years of
in various years
in the UFC,
not?
Be more.
Be more.
Very more.
So,
it's important
too, because it's the
recognition of the
athlete.
And they have
a job,
they do a
work very well
very good
with the athletes,
I don't have
to say to
the FL,
I've always
very well
very much
very good
so I'm very
so very
so very
really,
financially
was infinitely
better for me.
It's interesting
when you
came to
the FCC
had a
club, the
and now
who has a
group is BFL
you're the guy
who is the
guy who is
the other
and, poor,
it's in the NFL
the year
and maybe
we can't
have been,
and we're
in a
whole,
we can't
imagine
a lot of
a real
in a global
with a
man-in-a-
thing,
it would be
to do that,
and it would
be adorah.
And,
the globe is
a great
company
that's
a great
company,
who is the
PFL.
The F.
Kro-Nan
also,
came up
quite,
for having
came out
from the
global-sat
here in
combat,
many,
many,
many people
They've left to
assist me.
And they're
to watchy,
or other events
who are in the
show,
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Gilles, we're doing the other than, man.
Thank you, for your time, more than a way.
It's always a pleasure to start with you.
How many things for there?
Imagine, I don't see coarsing of anxiety
to finally go out to get in a porrada,
yeah, God.
I'm just going to be, just to go back,
to train, I'm, like, I'm feeling well.
Ombo's zeroed and be training,
just, like, it's a lot of joy.
and now
now I'm
a lot of
a lot of
no way to do that
not to do that
not to make
to get to
get to get
this,
just to gain this
was,
it was a
work-so,
but I'm
trying,
I'm trying
trying to
get to
in the shape
good even,
you know,
like I'm
doing three of
doing nothing
not,
not to do you
never to
do you
the armro
and the
real my arm
was a
whole,
my arm was
a pendurated
over
the ligament
so if
if I
forcass
any
something,
would be
to start the
ligament,
then it would be
to be in
a year,
then I was in
a year,
then I'm in
a year,
there'd be
not, putt,
then it's not
that's,
then more anxious,
coming more,
making more,
I'm going to,
like,
I'm in
this war,
to get the
person,
to get the
shape,
there,
and I'm,
not,
not in a
way,
I'm not,
I'm more
trying to
get in form.
Well,
imagine,
that,
I've been
been,
have been
anxious, because
you're a
guy who
like to
to fight
to work in
a four
months,
you have to
get to
get to be
not a lot of
even more
even more of
you know,
even more
you're not
been in the
UFC,
you've been in the
UFC,
via the
world,
various
editions,
was always
there's
always in
South Paulo,
porro,
in the
world,
and start
in that
email,
it was
this goshtin
to be,
yeah,
I'm
back,
yeah,
I'll
go,
would be
back,
then,
in the real,
this
this phase
final
I was going
and she was
doing,
therapy,
he was maligning
and was doing
more things
but the
wrong was
before it was
when I was
when I was
when I
was in-case
and then
I was
getting into
like I'm
like I'm
like I'm
going to do
I'm going to
do this
time that I
didn't have
because I
could
do something
until I'm
to get
a routine
that for
some
some
was a
psychological
like
car
my mom
no
I don't possibly
I'm
like,
I'm a
guy very positive
so it's a
difficult
I'm in a
depre,
so I'm
going to be in a
little bit more
I'm going to
do you know,
that's the
thing that's
that I'm not
put him back
to train
and then I
had to get
to get a
house,
I'm doing the
house,
I'm coming
the young
to the
men who were
the men who
two children
were with a
time of
a time
some jogging,
they were training
every day,
had trained,
put a man with
a trainer in
house,
I'd go to
get to the
school,
I'd like,
it's a part
you know,
that's a
part, you know,
and I'm sorry,
the day and
it's a day
to do-door
to do-of-the-cats,
I'd
prefer to work
to train-mah,
but,
now I'm going
to train-ah,
then I've
that my numbers
in the media
social were
being back-
much,
you know,
because I was
doing much
because I was
doing much
the time,
and I,
when I,
when I,
a reunion with the team,
also, we've
resolved to
go to
travel,
and to the events,
to do more
content of YouTube
and so.
And then,
I was,
when I was
it was a good,
he could be
going to
to train, and now,
I'm going to
get a 100%,
without a door.
And now
I'm just thinking
at the next
future,
I think I
need to
a time
more,
I'm not
to say,
I'm not
to say,
I'm not
a time
for I really
to come in
form,
and it's
going to be
March,
day 9
of March
has the 299,
it's one
that I'm the
if not
if not there
the UFC 300
also I'm
I'm going
to be able to
get up on the
I think I
think I'm
I think
this year
this
week
the Saturday
about 299
and after
of this
I'm going to
be able to
who will be
doing this
middle
I've worked
to
I did
I did
I've done
the LFIA
two
times I'm
going to
this
going to be here in Las Vegas
on Saturday, on a
6th.
So I'm, like,
I didn't start to work.
I, I'm doing
a father,
donor to work,
and then I was
a commentarice,
and then I
started doing
a bunch of
appearance,
like,
just,
I continued
working for a
carabiding to be
a lot of
that you.
Uh-huh.
Well,
you said,
you know,
the event
this time
can define
there's many
things,
not so the
champion,
but it's
to be
the top 10
because it's
probably
to the
world in action,
it will be in the
little bit of
the Loneathers
against the
Cobbitton,
there's the
Chavkato Ramonov
against Stephen Thompson,
there's Vincent
Luke,
against the Yorgherry,
there's even
there in the
Ranger Brown
against the
Mosin Salikov
is a
it's a
night that
will define
the next
the next
the next month
the rums
the division
will
be much yeah
will make
much yeah
there was
the week
last
they retraser
against the
Kelvin
Gaston,
is a
guy who
solified
in top
10,
he said
the Yang Gehry
see the
Yan Garry
got to
Vincente
but
let me
see,
there's a
category
think the
category
will get
I think the
Colby
will get
the Kobe
will
get a
superluta
that he
is very
really
really
really
really
really
so you
like
what you
want to
the
champion
you just
just
with your
objective
now
I would do it,
I would have made money.
So I think if the Kobe
will be able to
all the other
with a lot with him
with a lot of
a lot of him to
try and he wants
to do it.
And he's
a manned,
so he has a
man to get
this.
So,
even the
two of the
two,
they're both
a lot of
a lot,
so,
neither the
Colby,
nor Lian,
but I
think for the
category to continue
to continue
if the
Lion
was to
get,
it would be
better
to get
more
as a
At times, also, for entertainment, it's
better if you can win. I don't even see
in the UFC, what are that
gain. But there's
much to happen, so I think,
I think, I think, you know what
Leonez will gain, I
think the Stephen Thompson will
gain, I think, I
think it's a war, but I think
the Vicent
and in the other
there, the other,
the other, and the
Selecove is coming in a moment
very good, I think
the Salikov
could get a new guy in the
round of Brow, and
make sure a lot.
For you, what is
the, uh, the
a lot that you
more
to be
the other
for your
next
adversary.
Because you know,
to spot
the stodran
in your
your next
your next
but you
think you
know of the
other
other than the
guy who got
the Gerey who
got to
he thinks
this look and
this
this is the
lot that I
would like
to be
my
my next
my next
part.
I want
the guy
has more
the guy has
more rankeated
there
so if I
could choose
I prefer to
talk to
the Cubbe
I think
that Leon
will be
to come, but then, like,
it depends
just of me.
First,
the first
the war
to be going to
get to
get to be
and then
to see,
I think to
see the
my only
thing is
that maybe
the UFC
299
be in Miami.
Not is
confirmed
yet, but
I think
they're
being in
Miami.
And the
Kobe
and then
got far
the,
the,
the
the cinturon
there,
and
perhaps
offer some
he
in Miami,
maybe
maybe,
maybe
I'll
think he
I would have this other?
Ah,
I think the guy
I just put a
three times
and you know,
I think
he'll think he
will think very
financially
there's not
looking at
lot over the
event
with an event
I don't
see.
But it's
my
my main
my main
hope
is to get
this
this lute
and
if it's
not not
this lot
then we'll
have to
give a
pass in
back back
there
maybe
maybe
I'm
against
against
someone
that's
that's
getting
there's
a pick of
those guys
good
are going
and then
after a
lot of
a lot of
a lot of
a guy of
a man
great to
be a
for just
to be
not you
want to be
two
but have to
be two
not too
top five
there not
too
and then
after the
other
guy.
A man
a man
great that you
don't
not set
with a
possibility
of the
J.N.
Gary
that
will
confront
Vincent
Luke.
Luke.
You obviously,
want that the Vincent's Luke
gain of him.
But you think he's a lot.
I accept this.
I'm a madame if he
gain.
I just think
not it's
if he'll get
let's say,
let's say a lot
fast, I think not
I'm not caught him
the vicente,
I think he
not caught him
too pesed to
the contrary
is the contrary.
I think he's a lot
very bad man very
very,
second,
third round,
if Vincent,
insert the
the fact,
the fact,
he will knockoutia,
So I think if he
Giac, Vincent,
not be,
like,
like,
not be,
like,
it's a
war that's a
lot of,
like,
like,
like that victory
that's pretty
going to get a
top five.
For that I
think it's,
but,
if he won't
goate,
if he gained
well,
I think he
could even
be to be
so far,
so,
that he's
that I
know that I
don't leave
to one
to a side
enemy,
I don't
go to
a lot
creon,
so I
I mean,
I think
in this,
because I think he
don't want
to get this
way, but
it's a possibility.
I was having
an interview
from a
Gary to the
channel
Encara and he
commenting that
he came to
some point out of
the back
to the
weird to be
a little
weird
because he's
trying to
he's
your partner
but they
were talking
about you
about it
if you were
if you were
if you were
if you were
so you're
so,
so,
it's a
that's
that's
I was a job,
right?
How was this
encounter with him
with this
man, it was
that I
saw he,
I saw that
he was in,
I saw that he
was going to
get to be in
a bit more,
I said,
I don't
train with you
now,
I'm going to
listen to
like,
like,
no,
I'm going to
talk,
no,
no,
I'm going,
I'm going,
let's try
let's try
let's try
idea, but
no,
but you know,
but you
know,
but you know,
but I'm
saying,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
not,
like,
I,
he said,
then he said,
he said,
but if we were
going to,
I said,
no,
no,
don't have this.
Like,
it was,
he had to be
going to be
going to be able.
And if the
guys,
me offer to
you,
I'm going to
hear this,
you know,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he could
hear this,
I said,
I'm going,
we're going,
to be
to roll, and
I think, I
think,
I think,
that you're
going to
be able
to be
going to
But I think he not
will gain well,
if he's going to win, you know,
if we're going to
Vincent's there,
it's like I'm going to
I'm going to be
the hand in Vicent
is very more
pesada.
If you're in a moment
of a troca-sanca
Frank,
the Vicente no
I don't have
there, I think,
the time is curted
this event
will have been
the defense of
the centuron of
Alexander and
the Roeval,
you, because
is very collated
in Pantorja,
the family
of you are
always always
Juntas. You were there
when he gained the centuron?
What's your expectation of his revenge?
In the first round, he passed the car
in the band of Roeval, but the guy
improved a lot more than he caught on the
last night of his
your expectation for this
for this lot?
I think the Roevaldudel, he's
is a little bit more than a
joel periguer and I thought
that the Nicolau would have
got a little jolladown
and didn't get over.
Not able to recoverer.
I think when I don't
I can't, I
I think, but I think the
I think the mulek
will come,
I'm imagining
I'm in a rematch
against, I see,
like,
against a guy
that's,
he got in the
center of the centuron,
I know,
I know that's in
a good in a
role,
but I think
the Jiu-Jitsu
of Pantoggi
is superior.
I think,
in the
a troyo is
very perigoso,
there's a
good,
it's more
out, it's chate,
it's a man
a guy,
a man chatt to
the guy,
doing a job
certain and
if not
the way to
say in the
hand,
if I'm going to
do that
will get a
end up and
will be in
it's a lot
chata,
because I can
make a
place to look
in the
role of Benno
Roeval,
imagine,
but now
it's been in a
middle,
like the
the muck
will come
for all
that will
be more
difficult,
but I'm
going to
be a lot of
a lot of
a lot of
my children
my children
that, my
children,
will be
be more
a final
of
seminar
that,
On the other side of the line
we're still in Lucas Almada
that's the same
Saturday, my friend,
my friend,
my friend of the other
things here on the podcast,
like how are you
talk about this next
next time?
Hello, my friend,
be there,
I'm going to be able to be
talking to again,
and I'm going to show my
my job,
to show me,
to show why I'm
doing, you know,
in the UFC,
I'm a man
who's a man
to,
I'm a,
I'm a man
to go,
I'm a friend
that,
it's aggressive and that's
what I want to show you
like I'm going to show you
how you're in a anxiety
there's a lot of
because you're putting
a lot marked by September
and it got to
get a expectation
there to be in the F.C.
San Paulo,
in an roll-or
imagine that
I'm with a
form of
to,
to,
yeah,
man,
I was with a
lot of the
marcada to
to fight in
France,
and the
The last was I was
I was ready
I was in the
week
in the week
in the month
I did a camp
complete,
not was just
to get a
little bit more
in the same
that we had
never the
time that's
not it
not been
I'm recupered
I'm recupered
I'm in a
time
parable to
me recuperate
of my
lesion
but I
went
I got
I'm going
and I'm
getting a
lot of
the
lot of
then we
didn't
get
this I'm
didn't know
if you
didn't
Marked my
this year
even
even.
Even when
they're
I thought
that I'm
going to
not even
and markar the
lot in a
event in the
last year
in the last
the number of
the end of
Andrew Fili
a guy that
I would
be canceled
too,
was cancelled too
this
lot of
I'm glad
with him
is a
person
is a
person who
is a
person who
does the
show too
that's like
I'm
I'm like
I love
of a
front
I'm,
I'm going to
my job,
you know,
a lot of
aggressive,
it's a
, I'm happy
to do
to fight with
him,
I'm motivated,
this guy
me motivated,
a train
every day
very strong,
uh,
study,
study a lot,
study much a
study much the
game,
and,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
you've got,
you,
you mentioned,
you know,
a point that
you thought
that you
thought that
didn't,
I'm,
because?
Ah,
we had
had been
the lutes,
we're,
we're,
to fight in the FC
San Paulo,
I'd like to,
uh,
for me to
know,
in the reality,
even,
didn't,
need to be
to be in
F.C.
San Paulo.
Now,
I'm going to
where it
doesn't know.
Yeah,
I'd
appear,
yeah,
I'd like,
I'd like,
yeah,
but I'm,
yeah,
the,
yeah,
in Paris,
uh,
in France,
that I,
no,
I'm,
I'm not,
I'm,
was a thing
was a thing
there was
a thing
there was
and then,
yeah,
I,
I,
yeah,
I'd
there, but, oh,
not was not
I'm not
really,
I'm at least,
I'm at least,
I'm not,
but I'm,
not,
I'm not
never,
the UFC
didn't have
said the
nothing.
Then,
then,
then,
they're,
they're going to
this
lot there,
and when we
think,
yeah,
that's not
that's not,
man,
I'm,
I was bidding
for God
to be
to God,
to me,
to be done
in this card,
I was
to be
the world,
there,
one of the
one of the
one of the
one of the
only the
only the
so lot of
so I
wanted to
put I'm
I'm gonna
love to
this card
that's why
my friend
who is Rodolf
my life and
I'm gonna
cause it's
the new
I was a lottoe
yeah
I'm gonna be in-cima
if you were
maybe in-cimae
if for vered
five months
before the
lot.
But I was
I was ready
I was training
like it
like I'm in
like I'm
going to be
not a lot of
it's not
difficult to
do a
strategy to
do that you
have,
what was you
have,
who you
took to
the car
to
my
my
my
my
my
my
my
my
legion
on
my
and
yeah
had this
lesion
and
there was
too
but
but
we
prefer
I prefer
to say
the
but
I was
being
of
a
derot and not was 100%,
so, my trainer,
I don't want to
go to get to any moment,
no moment I'd
want to desisting,
but the
our team here,
I have a team
gigante here,
a guy guy
that's with me
that's going to
go,
we're the better
to go,
because,
you've just
just got to
a lot,
you know,
but you're
going to get a
good,
that was a
person who was
that were
to be
a person to
be a cent to
to be a
Then I,
I,
I, I,
I talked with
Valise also,
the Valise
also found out of
the other.
You said
that you said,
he said,
he was a guy who
was in front
before,
so the strategy
just was
maybe he
that was going
that was out of
the fight,
and I'm going to
ask,
what is the
way,
but you see
you see,
you see,
the game of
you're a
very different,
the guy
is a,
poor,
port,
you know,
what are the
most of the
most of the
most of the
challenges
that he
you try
you try to
the adversary.
Yes,
man,
so,
all the time
of God,
when I
would be able to
I think
I'm not
ready to
know,
to look at
a man who
an man
so much,
so,
but for the
UFC
to think it's
really in me,
my,
my ball
that I have
know,
you know,
I'm a
guy aggressive,
that I
go to
go to
to look to
to him,
a guy
just was
the fifth
to rank,
but
that was
I think
I was
that I
was not
was done.
God
made me
prepare better
better
I'm going
to pass
for a lot
and I'm
like I
see that I
know that I
would be able
to work
with him
and I'm
I'm a
other person
I'm
I'm not
my training
moved up
I've
back to
my city
to
I'm
I was
I was
I'm
not I'm
not overing
in Sorokabba
I
went here
to my
city
I did
my camp
complete
here
I did
some
intercambos there in San Paulo
but I did my camp
complete here
with the team
that made I
get to the UFC
when I entered
in the UFC I
came moving
to the city
to be able to
get to be
because of my
patronic also
but it
happened there
happened a lot
that was canceled
and I
came back
to Sono Kaba
and I did
my camp
complete here
and I'm
happy
to be
in my
city,
you know,
part of my
family,
part of my
family,
part of my
I'm with my
my family
all the day
now
I'm going
just seeing
a lot of
she's
with my
master
with Valdeer
is the
people who
they've
always
they've been
really
really
there's
no
there's
we're not
we're
we're
championing
of kickibox here
champion of
jiujitsu
poe
there's
no good
here
there's
where I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
here,
again, representing
the city
again,
the new,
you know,
I have
a lot of
a lot of
and it's
been doing
to live where?
You had to
go to mor where
where you
had gone to
go to
work in
tapetina.
Uh-huh.
And what
didn't do
not so much
not so
I'm not
not so,
but I'm
doing my
training
was there
like,
what did
what did
so that you
did not
what you
did
do certain?
tapetining, no canyot to
to train him, a canyot original.
I'm, I'm
a guy who studs a lot, and
I see that, like,
if you don't train with a
canhoto, natural, it's different
if you're trying to a guy who will
be a canyot, will help you
in the train, like, oh, I'll help you,
will help you, look, will
be a canyot, no is the
same thing that you train with a canyot. And
like in Sorocaba,
in a city that I
always moved, there, has a
The name of Lucas,
also, it's Lucas, also.
He, he is
Canyot.
And, man, he,
today in kickbox is the best
world, he was champion
world of kickbox,
now in Arabia,
oh, I've been,
in all the world,
it's the best,
po,
today,
boy, today is the
world,
he's the first,
he's a little more
more peser than I,
but, like,
he's,
he is,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
I'm coming to
to come to
to come to
to train with him.
Because,
po,
here the guys
just were
training all the day,
yeah,
yeah,
the team professional
monta-
and I came
here to
to appreciate
of him,
and I'm
going to
much of
the training.
And I was
feeling about
to be
long from my
family,
and I
talked with
my trainer
there to
Patentinaina
and I
resolved all
and I
got back
and I
think I
feel like
for the
I'm
because,
poor,
he's,
this that I
said,
this man,
this man,
this man,
this man,
he's a
a lot of athletes
here.
It's nice
for carambo
the train.
I've seen a
evolution
gigantic for me.
And you
think that's
that area
is a
matter that
can be the
differential
in a
other than
a lot of
a lot of
under
the
other than
we've
worked a
really,
I'm a
I'm a
only
the box
also.
It's a
thing that I
think I
think I
think I
did a
lot in
doing
sequence
and
of hand and
and perna and I
I'm going to
I think I'm
not trying to
not training a
not really
in Tapetina
even I didn't
trainable kickbox
I'd trainable
just box
I'd
we've got a
trainer of box
to train my box
now the
my box
always was the
my most
but I'm
always I always
I always
I always
I never
I'm able
a little
this and
now now
well I
I did, I did a camp
in the selection
in the selection
Brazilian of kick-box
also, we went
there,
we went there,
we've got a
week,
training with the
best of the
world,
uh,
my master
invited,
I went to
I,
I went,
and I went
in the telephone
Brazilian because
I'm the
I'm the
game,
box,
the guy,
me know,
he's got,
me know,
we've done
a camp
there,
I,
I've got,
my origin,
you know,
my sequence,
I,
I,
I think,
I think I had
I had been a little more
less less than
a new thing
you can't
run the head
the guy
but I'm
I'm more
I'm more
I'm going to
do I'm
doing to do my
sequences
I'm feeling
very confiante
in my kickbox
for
having been
in my
raise
and you
see that
come in
a knockout
when Andrea Fiel
then this vaults there's
so man I
will be
I'm going to
go back the
time all
but my
my chown
also I
I've worked
very,
I've worked
my Jiu-Jitsu.
Independent,
where it's
the fight
on the
or in-
I'm going to
be trying to
finish this
this is the
my methodology
my,
my way,
always always
be always
to be looking
to end with
the fight.
I have
a certain
that will be
a war
because it's
a man
a man
an guy
an person
a person
who,
you know,
a guy
to be to
you know, man, you know,
I'm still with
trying to try and
I'm sure that I'm
going to be able to
show my job in
my time of a guy
like him,
and the plan
now is, po,
to wince this
and I'm
getting to get to
a sequence,
because,
po, in the
last year,
there were,
four,
put, four,
lots of
, I imagine
that I'm going
to be in
a porrada more
a bit.
Yeah,
po, it's
a foda,
today,
I received
a message
on Instagram
and a
the
lotator of the UFC
from my
category and
saying if the
the
fight
if he would
like if the
guy
desisted
of the
he'd
be able to
like
it's fos
the guys
yeah
like you
like you
look like
I don't know
what happened
you cancelar
a lot
of
my
it was
it was
it was
it was
the last
but the
with
Andre's
with
I was
I had
me
and then
he was
it was also
it's been
so this
this lot of the
other that was
canceled
this was
this was to
happen to happen
it was to
pass it
now
so I think I
think I'm
I'm in a
better
to be a
person of a
person
but he just
he just
he passed
for everything
he's
what he
had to pass
he just
he's past
he's already
I'm going
to show
to show
what I
I have,
I'm,
what he
had to
show,
he had
to have
been to
show,
I'm in
it's a
time,
it's a
my way,
I'm in,
my way,
I think
put,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm,
yeah,
I've got,
I'm 20
Lutas,
I have,
two,
like,
now,
you've,
you just,
you just,
you've had
your chance,
now,
now,
now,
and I'm,
and I'm
focused on
this,
I'm focused
in,
poor,
get there,
go,
to,
and get a
knockout and
to
get a
finalization
the time
whole
as I
always
I'm
not I'm
not I'm
I'm not
I'm not
I'm gonna
need to
because I
know that
I'm
like the
style of
yeah
like this
start
I'm gonna
go to
go to
front
that I'm
I don't
be afraid
to say
in a
porrada
if
if you're
if you're
still
now
I'm
I'm
not
not trained
so I'm
my
my legion
my
and I'm
getting a greply
and then
this thing
was,
it was foe
after my
lesion
I'm focused
in recuperate
my
my joey
now is
so
doing my
jiuitso
I'm doing
the guys
too
I'm
oh it's da
ha ha
yeah,
he's
he's just
got
on the
top of
you know
like you
like you
said you
like you
said you
said
man
man
he's
but
he's
but he's
just got
no limit
of him
he
he's
he's
that he
not pass
and you
get him
now
your
first of the
first of
your
to get to
pass to him
and get to
where he
not could
get to
get the
the
goals more
out of the
yeah so
so
I'm
passing
the RET
my
will
look
will
look
to know
to me
yeah
so
so
you
see you
yeah
yeah
yeah
I think
I think
the
I think
the
I think that
I'm
getting
well the first
the first
the first
I ended
not soltowing
my game
no,
I'm not
I'm not
not really
the guy
got to
know the
my job
and I
think they
want to
see how
I'm going
to be
like I'm
a camp
complete
the
lot of
the FC
yeah
more in
a year
I think
the UFC
that is
that is
they've
got
a great
name
so
a man
a man
an
person who
in terms
in
in decadence
because
because, po,
I'm,
yeah,
now,
it's,
poor,
the ultimate
he's
, I think
they're
going to get
there's a
time,
and I'm
going to do
I'm going to
think so,
I'm going to
do it,
they're doing,
want to be show,
can't be
a year,
it's that I'm
going to get
there's a
question of
podcast,
I'm saying
to make the
guy of the
Zapato,
Gilbert Durno,
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Duhmede,
and the
American
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