MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Carnaval De Entrevistas: Sergipano, Lineker x Andrade, e Muito Mais

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

Quarta-feira de cinzas, você naquela ressaca (ou ainda bebendo, ou só treinando), hora ideal para ouvir o Trocação Franca e se inteirar do que rola essa semana no MMA. O podcast traz seis entrevistas com atletas que lutam neste fim de semana em todos os cantos do planeta, no UFC, Bellator e ONE: André Sergipano, John Lineker, Fabrício de Andrade, Pedro Carvalho, Augusto Sakai e Victoria Souza. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It’s Carnival week in Brazil — and Trocação Franca is here to keep you up to date on what’s going on in the MMA world this weekend. Six fighters join the show who are set to compete in the UFC, Bellator, and ONE: Andre Muniz, John Lineker, Fabricio de Andrade, Pedro Carvalho, Augusto Sakai and Victoria Souza. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo Cruz. Hello, a little fan of Luda, and of Carnival, welcome to 176 episode of the podcast, Troca Sown Franca, The Social House, This immense, when I'm going to see.

I'm going to Bruce, correspondent on the site American on M.M.A. in Brazil, and we're going to the Ritom of the mainstice

on this quarter of Cinder. If you still be able, if you're are training in the academy, or if you're

so too do you know where you're the Toacion Franca can be made recheated to not less

than six interviews, starting with Andres Ergypano, that does the first one of the second one of the second one then we're in

going to be in America and Fabrice Dandrade, and they're in front more one way for the centurion of the end championship after that

the fight between the end up the end up the end up due to shoot in the bottom of Linnikken.

From there, we parted to Belator to talk to the Portuguese P. P. and I'm

the about about Albusa Sakaa and Victoria Sousa, and Victoria Sousa, the championship. So, pick your capirina, your energetic, shake, the coffee, and let's adapt there in the interviews

of Fight Week. On the other side of the line, now we have Andreas Sergipano who's who luta on the day 25th of February against Brennan Allen to continue this a firm and strong

in FC, invicto, in the octagon. Well, Brin, be a podcast, more than this this is the experience for more of this challenge,

the first of 2023 in the octagon. Fala, thank you, thank you, with you talking more

one way. We know the difficulty that's the other than the country that's a lot of the

organization, greats victories, yeah. It's not a rankiated but this not mean

I'm prepared how to or even more than if I could be to talk to someone because I

know that he'd maybe maybe be more than some than some than any

front or the guy who can invading the division but if if God want to try to

in the victories, with a great lot, a great victory of the 25th, February. I would have to be this point, yeah, car, the guy not being rankeded, when they're not quite, I thought, I thought, quite offensive,

because you're, poor, finalizing all the world, gave him to guys with a lot in a sport, like, I was a girl, you know, to rawhal, finalized the jacareg, a guy, really d'clock,

a guy very hard, too, too, too, and then we put on the other guy that not a rankiard, you, tento to do your paper, you, po, for, was on the internet,

it's a few people, gave the name of various people, but it's not roll, car, because what's just happening this? Many people, perhaps are evitone you, it,

in the, the PESOMEY, the FEC? I think there are some factors, Nelead, first I think I'm a guy

so high-ed even with a media. Then, querion, no, when, and today,

the F.C contabilizes much this, so it, so, so, so, we say,

we, the risk, no compensed, the benefit, So, I I accepted Lutas I'm going to

two months Caughts Caughtsue The Clowne I said that I had a lute I'm going to I'm doing the

Lute, the Luton that came up I said, I was still a lot of time to get a

Visto PEON of the office said you didn't give you put another adversary

in the other option that they came was with Brandon Allen that came a

sequence Boe BITories I am a athlete, I train I train up I have to

work, I have two children, I have to work to any other my last one my last year my last year was in July,

so I'm sorry, I said, I'm sure, if the guy is the rank or no, I'm going to work, we're going to work

we're going to come back in February, in the middle of the year, we're in the final of the year, we can't

make three that's always for my project in the UFC, I've been to make sure to make sure

that's a great, that the career the luddor and so financial but how you but you're doing

with this frustration you're looking someone, you're going to get someone but in the end of it's going to it's a victory it's a victory

she'll give you this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, you know, with a family

in a car, in a car, yeah, it's all money, you're just, get a money when the lot, but I imagine that's frustrating

you, it's a, victory, it's a, that's defogar the question financial, but that, sportively, in terms of rank

and not you don't give an impuron that you want to you know, this

this in this case even more after after some some the

Drico do Pairss versus the Derek Bronson that was

so the men in the other the organization or

now maybe sold a other Lutut versus Gavggis

Gett the the guys are those are we're

we get chate but I understand the context, you know,

I know that the show not just you're not just to do you know I'm not my moment

still is doing a career, appear in organization, create my name, but there

one thing important after this Glebe that's the same, against the numbers,

we can get, so if if God want to get this this lot,

it's the sixth victory in the organization, the two

is the grand champion Anderson Silva and then the ex-capion Israel, and above of this was the San Strickland

which has six victories so I've won't this number of San Strickland so the organization should me

give me a great name because American doesn't much of data of numbers and I

will have a number very expressive that are six victories that are the category of the middle. So I'm trying to

trynating. We're very focused at the academy, the trainers, we're doing we're doing

about the other we're doing, he can't us offer us he's, he's a grand

team American. So, they're prepared for the Vits and Reds and a great war, a

great battle if necessary. And the our expectation is always the same

all the division. No, no, no, no, no means, and

against who will I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to keep the same

but I'm going to start the finalization to the beginning to the final of the final of the last of the hype to be mediated you know,

you think it's a need to do something because for example in terms of fact, of these, you're unquestionable

the sequence of victories, but at times this not is not a lot for example not for Raphael

Assumson that is a point he was with eight victories in Pes of the Pazzo Galo but

not had, not received a chance to the centauron and and so, that many was in the case of his case, he was in the

guy who was never much in the guy that was the way, it was that's all over this career, not you know, it's not, you

need to move something, you need to do that's a more, maybe sit a name, in an interview

post-lut, to do a question, to be, to, who can't, have this opportunity,

to, for that the guys of the rank, they don't you don't you see as a

a challenge very very very but I'm a question with a question yeah,

I think the work of market in any any of sport is only tralado

to the athlete I have to make to make much this I'm

also I'm also I'm doing so I'm so that I can't

talk to the reporters of the Brazil to be there to do an

good the public the the public the I need

this vincal with a little with American to have this this carino of the gallery that I'm going to and I'm going to

my work too. I think I'm doing these two aspects in the part of marketing directioning

some things that we can't be able to get a point to do a interview to talk with the

talk with the reporters and could respond and all the people to me as a

my career in the UFC and the your adversary now is the Brennan Allen that is a guy who

is a good, perdeed for the good for the good the best of the game

how you how you can be you're you're for a war for a

necessary but you think the your plan is finalize it a guy

who's a man who's your plan is to what you do you do this

all the how you it's it's It's interesting, like, the brand, he was a new brand, he was a new, he went to a finalization,

he made a challenge, respectfully, he, he he thinks that my Jiu-Sitza is one of the division,

I'd have been to be a pleasure to be to be a thing, so I think it's very interesting, it's a bit

a little, where we're really, where, really, really, really, really,

really, really, really, and I, I, also, I, I'm, this

This is a organization, I want to to try represent the Jiu-Jitsu the best way

possible. I think that's a form, finalizing, what I can't put more in

practice, in practice, the public, the gallery of Jiu-Zo, is to get a to get.

We know the difficulty that is, so I'm going to look at the first to end,

like my last battle against Rory Hau, I tried to find

to the was very prepared, the defense of his, but I've tried to start to come to end,

and I think this is the way of the situation that's my adversary, have a good box, also have a good grappling,

but I confil in my work, confi of my trainers, and we go to the last we've said,

to say, to say, no, the last thing, he's a guy that's a mankeed, and it

was he, who's getting the name that you'd want to be to try out, to try out, Portugal,

to trysal the your destino in the the UFC, to get the matchmakers there's a

make some get some to get some to be able to see the I'm trying to do the team of the

person, that's a second after my last time of my lute, I'm going to be back

in Vegas, so I think the the winner could be my next option there to

confront if the organization if the organization or we analyzing the division, we know that we'll have the revanch, there's a reich against the current champion Alex Pereira.

So the division will be a little paraded, the guy there's from the guy there's and I don't see if the Paul Goughchinia will be to be with Robert Wicott. So if he was really to face this this, there's two numbers

that will sobrough, which is the Sun Street, we've just got to now against the Russo, and the he came to him to be in December, he he lot in December, he

in January, which is the Carnone, so there these names to we can analyze, but I

think that the way that's the way of to respond a challenge, I think the Sir Strickland, I've

I've been seen in the and I'm saying the name of his name he says in a porad that he's

very malo, there's all the person said that said that lived in a situation a bit of a

bit bit a situation, because he has a one lot on a contract and he

to be to be in front to the Uthakir was this, but he said that he never signed the contract, and it was, he said that the lutea and he's in the situation. He said he said he's going to be able to be to befriend the Burrachin, the UFC, say, porre, by the most of him,

go there, and go and this guy that we want to be able to bea the Burrachina, right? Yeah, so, the Borrachian is here from here, near to my house here, so long, not so long from here,

from the capital, it's 400 kilometers, pedin But I don't know We don't know what Butrochina Yeah but I I believe

That's a lot That's a lot That's a lot of Yeah, I think there's There's various athletes I think we're

We're trying to But if it's long that the organization I'm offering I'll offer me And then I'm To go back back I don't choose

I don't choose Nobody, I just want I'll continue my way a way opportunity for the centuron. And just to

be able to the centuron, the Poatan will make a revanch with the time that was the

whole everybody would be going to happen that's the what you think of this lot? You think that's the

same the same result, but maybe a whole roteer a little different. The first

Poatan had a little difficulty, he had to get in the last time in the

building and the miracle and he's done the the knocker the knockout in the You think the

you think the will be designed equal, different? How can you start imagining for this is,

because it's a fourth time that you want to be front to be so the first of them to

them to those. These, the two, yeah, there's a thing that's much

thing in the level technical, if you know, to analyze all the lot of

things, the guys are very are very very close the two, yeah, I really,

really, not were the really, not were the that I would be that I would see in this moment.

I'd like, I'd like, I'd see the Qatan subbing in division, and looting against the Jamal who came to counter to

the global. I think he'd this art of this ard of vengeance, there's, even more that the

Kutan and the other training with Glover, but by the division, have to happen to

this fight. I'm I'm in certain to Tauau Brazilian, the guy

who has a story of super a winner, he's he represents really, The Brazil is the race,

that guy that's a whole thing, can't do a lot of Cucinna, like he, like the Charles,

like the proper Glover, who's don't know the other, so I'm doing for him, I'm still

that this way he wins in a way more, it can't end, so don't let's a guy

nervous, that was a lottace, you know? You think he has he has a game to

be a longgeau so, to have a long-rein- because he and the Adesani, they have a base

similar. The two came out of kickbox, so it's a little different, than he's in front a guy who has a base of wrestling, a

guy like you have a job of Jiu-Gitzo. You see he the capacity to do it, how Adesana did, how the

Anderson Silva did a long reenado, or you think that he doesn't know the other Desani, that's a

guy, who is a guy who makes a more, or you can be a a guy who has a a base in a jujitsu very strong,

and then he will have a difficulty more to wincy obviously the local his

but he's always he's a little more limited for cause of this. So, Lutta

nuttada, it's very difficult to say a lot of a thing, a situation, a question,

a problem, a weapon that can have a difficulty to a adversary,

or a other thing, is you can't put in practice, yeah, if you

get the time he's taking the M.A. The result of his thing superendentent,

the guy has a little time of MMA he's he's a champion of the world

he's a man, he's a phenomenon in this factor I think that there's

the difficulty to batte the the person is a great and we we can

on the social he he he he he gets a

pretty three kilos so it's a disgach much

great to bat 83 83 k 9c that

the tituron and also because for because of this

he he not continue a reynado for much time in the division. I think he

will defend this centuron and he should be to be in the division. I don't think he

should be not even to be the defense for much time, even to be a career

more longer this this disgast of this I have certain, or send or time,

the the end of your rendiment. Thank you thank you thank you good,

good luck this RETA final to prepareation for the quarterback to be in the time in the next lot of the

whole of the future of the first of the success to the future that's the centeron. Thank you. Thank you for

opportunity. It's been a pleasure to talk to you and it's a great with a victory there we'll talk about

to say and we're back we're back we're doing to mock to the world borgh from the

other side of now we have we have Fabriz Sandrage that dispute the cunturau more one one other one time

on the year on my time my time my time well welcome to the podcast

how are the time this repeat about the little yeah yeah all right

now the final of preparation all going going as hope I'm going to the day

we're just we're talking last that last time you're in a expectative to knockoutial puttable

was a loton and in third round, you entered a goal in the last, that had to interromper in the

way, it was to do you know, that's a feeling that's a feeling that time, to get a

time to do the title and go to come to the title and back to the right? Yeah, I've been

just, you've been, just trying this dispute for El Suron some time, and the guy would

be making, I was, I was going to callteer all the world, so I'm, so I'm very anxious

to to be able to hospital, then when finally I was able to expose the stucuron, then the lute it was done, the way that it was, so, with the way to be

frustrated, and I, I took that, after the lute, I've got to calm, and get my head from, because I, I, I

felt, I, I, I mean, I was, I was a lot, you, know, by the fact of, I, don't talk, to, I don't have gained, bonus,

all of these things, So, me They were with a sensation of that I had been a lot of

so I'm to calm I've got to take a time for me to get a few years without

just really trying to understand my head, what I was what I was thinking, what I'm

going to and go and in the final of the past we don't have to move

and now now we're going I'm will have a second chance to be

this, this, I'll with him, and to have a first one and the

first one, I think the first performance was very good, but I not, not was,

I don't show, I don't, the performance not was what I was waiting, but now,

but now, I'm going to be this chance, there, to be, so, it's, it's,

it's, and I'm going to be able to do this this that is a place that I've been a five years

so I've have many people many people many people many people and I'm there's a lot and it's been

a good enough to get a footer she's not a little now now for this second but not not be from

the zero because you're the jowla during various minutes, the lot was it was to the third round

so it did the time to you feel the guy he sent you see what he he did you did a thing

he did something that he did I thought that this would be so, and there was a that you did a lot?

I think no, I think I think, I think, I think, I think, it was the job he did

really, it was the thing he made different was, he respected more, and did more back,

he was more patient, so this showed that he was receoos to be to be able to be

notcaled, so he became very patient, He's expected well the moment of his, and it was going to I wanted to terminate

the lute, I ended up trying a little more the lot, and it was the moment that I gave a breast for him and put up to back.

So these are some little detail that we are we're getting to get to return to but he did the rest,

I think he did what he always, the game there, no, there's a lot of

much to move, it's the year has a many years, and it's the game

he will the game he was the Mons of Pedre, yeah, in which there's a lot of people, even the

Bibbiano, when he took the hand, the man is more a more than the man of a

man of a man of a man of a in a time in the academy with the carers that are the

that are the bad are so much he's not, I believe that normal, the same

the same the difference all, the difference of his is because he is a car

minor, so he is a man real, a guy very a guy very big per a category so

So, by the fault of he's more back, he carries more mass muscular. But it's it also he also carry much the goals, so the goal we

see, it's more easy to defend. But I don't think I commented with my corner, after the

because many people came saying this, saying, ah, he's a big, a lot of

pressure, and in the time of the after the I looked, I looked at him, man, the guy,

no, no time, I'm doing all, was doing the world, was blocking the I was feeling

very comfortable in the I'm in my name post that you did a camis that you with a galan-

with the head of the line for what that is a galen? You know, if you

know, the champion of the Pescois he, he had made a the

company for the opponent of his and he said the guy said the guy was the guy was

a man then the my anniversary that was a before

the last of he gave me he gave to present, a a car with the car of Linneck, too, I mean, you know, a lot, you said, before, you know, before, the first of the first of the last year he said, you know, that's going to, like, you know, he said, you're that, like, he was trying.

Yeah, like, he knows that the my game is very complicated for he, he knows that I'm living with him, he never will have to be a lot of fast, so he was trying, before, before, before,

to look to meet one of the other guys that are, that are, but he said, after we said, he said, he said,

that no, that he didn't have seen, but the real, we know, he knows what is, you know, he knows,

that, he, he, he, the game, no, the game, no, it's a game

a difficult and he he tried to avoid the but for because of

the performance the the lot of happened to happen but he

had to he had accepted he had accepted the revented you

did he did he did he did not you did he thought to try

to you think he he was he got to he's well

he thought he maybe he would or push the to try to

try to more more to go to more to go to other

and I'm going to the best of the but he accepted the fight in February

which was a time one for me too I was I'm very happy and I

I'm surprised too for he for he accepted How do you win this

this battle? Knockout you you think it was more more

more than she was this time she's a bit more. Now you're going to him a

little more. Ah, in this lute, I think I don't go I'm going to choose

a round I'm just I'm going to know, I'm a lot than he, I'm more arms than he

are more more veloes than he so I'm going to be, I'll be be,

be able be able to be able to be at any I'll know-coucher him

and so I have a certain that I want to be I don't have

pressure. It's just go there to go and enjoy my moment and in any moment I'm

going to be ready to end up a lot of and end up with this circle that happening.

Just to just to know, you know, is a superwee is very flexible

so to make the athletes subibering to get a try to there's

there's a thing that past by your mind you're like you you're

much more than a more height It's a thing that's going to be cogit of category?

Yes, in the fact I have now, I'm going that I have many, I have been

in my category, I would be done of three trons, which is the M.M.M.A. or Maitai

so I have this option to put to kickbox or Muay Thai, and also have the option to subit

category because I think with my sport physical, I can't look at the category

in the same so, so, with the option, but now we're focused on the first step

that's in front me, and then we know to watch him, we'll see what we will do you do with

what we're doing category or or if testate in other sports? Ah, this will depend not, it doesn't

make me laugh. Yeah, exactly. The important is to put the money in the box,

yeah, champion of one, or subcategory or go Maitai and Kikikik Boxing,

being being paid we do anything something, but we'll have like that way something, we're going to we're in

we're in the other side of the line we're here in the day 24 of February again, more one way

in front, Fabrice's DeAndrade by the centurion of the championship trying to retomar

the title that he was and trying this victory after this little bit of the form the first time

it's been being the this re-encoct with Fabrice get the sitononon to turn to and vingar that's been

a problem that I imagine you'd have been a part of a lot of a lot of expectativa super super in the same

it was a lot of a first encounter our first unfortunately happened that's

that's that's unobilating to go to the combat but now I'm with

the head good with the we're to go back more more strong to the ring Pond.

That's a defense of the centuron after you knockoutio Bibbiano, that victory spectacular

but it was it was not you can't get in the no, what you did you did you did you

correct to guarantee that this will do do certain you will be to be able

to be be valid for you too too also the same thing too I'm

to do different, and go to go to more back than the normal to to the amount to the normal to the amount of in the limit of

the balance, the quarter, came there, did a difference, returne, and I did, and I took more 200 grams,

I came to there, and I'm in half a half, yeah, it had to be $6,000, unfortunately

there was a error of, it was a error of, a problem in diet, training, the paper

of the no, was, it, was very, something, so, like,

that it could have happened so, I know what I need to do you know,

I'm going to be going to get to get to be a unciled this balance,

you know? How is this work, because different of the FC, where you

did a good, a good part of your career international, there,

there, no, there, no, there, do the do lots of ,

to, to, to, , to, , to be restrae this, I imagine that it's a more of attention

that is necessary in this pre-lutta, yeah, in the reality, yeah, I, like I said, it was a vacill was a decino, it was aucing, I don't suffer, you know, to bathe this

weight of the system of the Oner, I'm a, I feel a, I feel more the goodure, and then, then, then, diminue a little carbidratus

just to do that much charme, and always hydrating, so I don't suffer, and it's that I do.

I'm taking the maximum of the good of the I can't with the carbidrato and I'm always controlling, not letting me

back up very and not to be able to make the weight to be able to this. This is not a problem

in the other routes of the year, imagine that you are doing everything to be

not a problem to know, but the focus, of fact, is the lute with Fabrice, of, boy, get the

kind of a kind of, you're going to your first revenge there's a one, a guy who's

a guy who doesn't, a guy who got to try a porrada like you what you did you're

what you didn't, what you saw, exactly with he was going, well, I said he would

do you know, how you went to this thing, how you went to it happened all the

we had turned all the had trained had pre-dosed I wanted to use that is the fort in it, the good distance,

the shooter, the kneelead, and it's going to we're doing, we're trying, we're doing, we do this strategy,

but in the course of the lot, there, it's, it's, it's, it's,

I've been a bit bit of this, it's probably on this, a, a, let's say,

a, of this jewellade, the chute of his job, to work more at my distance, not be a lot and not get too in prudent,

to put the maximum there, be moving to laterally, I'm, I'm doing, too, be doing,

I'm doing, this lot, I'm good, prepare the the body physical to be 100% with a certain,

with a little bit different from the first, with a certain, I'm sure, I'm

interviewed, I interviewed, I interviewed, and he said, he said, he said, when you

you accepted him to find him to be he thought that you'd avoid this the way

the way that the first happened, that you would be sent to get him and then you and then

you'd be able the winner and you think he's that he's with a fear of to be

with him and it's very interesting if you say that I'm there, there's

a father of a friend of my friend he came and said to him he said, The John is

a low to run with this guy, I'm going to talk with this man, I'm a

man who's a man who a man who a man lot more than a man who he's a lot I don't know

I don't want to say, I don't say ah not was bad and but what is fact

is fact yeah I'm unfortunately in that the lot was not with the

case the of the of the of the and he'd have the title in the balance, so that you left

so much with me about the story that I had so I'm balanceded much and that's really very much

very much during the the lute, so if you if I'd be this the little, not even,

so he so he can't have been sure that me really, very, and now, now I'm

going to I'm going to be to be a, I'm a focus, have a focus,

I'm a title now, to recover. So, with I'm going to I'll look more focused, more determined,

than the first fight. So, MED is a word that I don't know. This is not in my dictionary.

I never existed in my life. My life was always battle, always a war, and I'm where

I'm going and I'm so, with the degree, I, will be able to beckxed the

words of some pittance more in this desire to gain of him, because if you see if you

accompany, if you custom see a radio social of your other people he posted a photo

a car, vesty in a a, a a carmisa with a a little a head, in the

head of the hand on the little, maybe, not, not you make you don't, not to make you

get to this guy, I need to get this guy, to be caught to say this car

to be pretty in this part, I'm, I'm I'm I'm really

I'm really a lot of I'm a lot of really a really I'm a question I'm a guy that

I'm always my life whole whole was like I'm always always just think I'm always

saying that I never could never get and I always I always I'm

on the contrary in this luta I'm to show that I'm that I'm

that I'm that I am a to reign much time so I'm I'm going to

for all those that I don't go to wince this lot, that he was going to me in the first, so I've

heard about that if I'd would have done to do you just the last the last few the last that's a

not, that's that's a lot of that you'd suffer much with a lot of

bad you're so far in the back I'm back there's a pair of filer yeah

you're just to just to just to just to to get up a knockout. Imagine that your provision is like that's a

real way. God, oh, oh, look what he called he me knockouted in the first round,

I said that I'm that's going to happen to put up so I'm in God, I think it's

like that I've been a knockdown, I didn't ever get to happen, never would happen to

and I'm talking to get him in the third round. Look, he was joelado in my sack. The golf

and barge in the third round, he said he would get And this What is the previso?

You think it's the third round of the new? You think it's like to get there's a lot of before? Sure, as I'm a guy very talented on a guy,

a man, so I have to have to be a third round again, I'm going to play on the third round. And no

my serreter, I'll say again, Fabrice. Now we part to the interview with Portugal, Peter,

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Peloton Cross-training tread plus at One Peloton.C.A. Do you the other side of the line, now we have Peter, Jolla, the Jolla Tour, on the day 25, against Jeremy Kennedy. Peter, it's always a pleasure with you.

How is this ramp, final, this correria for more one of the battle. Well, Julianne, since I've got to the convict, thank you, for the volgones of a to talk.

It's all, it's all, all in-simim, all good, all in the point, as we'd like we're and it's just, all the days,

roll out the peso, and it's show. You're embaled of a victory with the Mads-Burnel for,

trying to encachachar more a sequence of a question a man that's

a man that has been from the PFL and that has been this confront

of the styles of your game with the game of the Jeremy Kennedy I

see I'm in this despite to be different I think the

combat will be quite be very like and identical with with what

was with Marnello. The style of the game of Jeremy Kennedy is the same

is that to get to get to be under gaula and eventually when it

gets a kind of being to get to be to the reloge

the reloge to get and so as also

also also not not not not try because

he is a a contestant but but the

part of it I know that but the other than the will be able to rependar the jala

and it's 15 minutes pass. For that I think this technically is a combat very good for me

because it's a style of a game that I'm very much very much not just to in

but here in the gymasio I pass for this all the days here there's

here grapplers a level world world very good and always

that's par is the thing that most me happens is in mohese

for this also also part of the success of combat of the combat of Bernal

also I knew had to be patient that I would have to have been

a good time and so so we're more

more more more than and it will be be good

so it's a part to be a porrada, it's I just the same is the contrary.

The guy, he not will want to try a porrada with you, that he will want to be to be able to you're going to

get to be able to get to make the decision? No, it's like, I'm actually, I'm a real,

I was born a man, I turned a athlete for being a lotator, but along the career,

I also I also I also learned that the person should be a resource, and I

do me more in being a athlete than the lot of the lot of

if I know I'm going to be I'm after this approach after the

last the I don't consider a lot that's a decision divided

with the before the before the after the

but I learned I learned that I'm I'm that you don't

matter you don't the general of you're how you you and the

result the good result since that I did to make this in mine

did to see the part of the job, it's part of the job as a

obvious I'm I'm lot of I'm always and I go always

look and and give merit to who go to

to learn to prove that to but the job is the

game is the end the end the of the end of I,

in this combat, if you have at the time, to make a decision chata,

shata, for so say, or more technical, to gain the loot, I'm going to

do it. I'm going to do it. And this, Peter, oh, pa, we,

let's be, who can be who verga first, you know, and if I want to

be a world, not can exist, and, now, how it obviously,

for much the technique that I try to involve, for much methodic, that I

There's a one thing that never will be in me that's, when I go and I go in a porrata, I'm going to

do that and I'm going to be a question and that's what happens with Jeremy Kennedy. You think the derogat

in a decision divided to Piotr he, this derrota you ensinor that no there's a

victory, that the feyer, that the feyer not a phrase that the Dada Maraville Jodd the Football

Brazilian it was that it's, that no, that no, there's goal fey, the way, or not to make a goal. And you can't have to be with this debate on the decision of the biddered, but the judges were to give to the car, you know, no it's going to do you have to do that you have to do with, you have to do with it.

No, no, because until that combat, and I thought, that I had made a model, for so, say, because I didn't know, I, I didn't, I, per die, to Paul, Patrice, I guess. I puttee

many things and I met the feet in the hands when I accepted the when I didn't have

not put not physically but physically physically but I'm back to and then I'm

and I batty in the fund and bat and bat and I back you but I me time

Iirgh me and then I then I'm then I'm then I'm again he then I'm

and then with the adjustments and with the I learned that I've learned of these two rotas

and then with the victory of the Weishel I thought I thought I thought

a lot of the puzzle was made that's something really a lot of a lotator

turn a maturnees a moduro that tries to use better that I'm more than

something and I think I had to have that this combat and that gave me

the click gave me click that was a small piece of nothing but it was a piece

that moved a lot of and and it's despite of the paper

is a little chate when a person gain and there there a lozina

a red but but after of all it was a

lot very very very great for me and I don't

no And I feel content because I can put in practice. I could not just show to all the people in the Lutu as well, but primarily to show me to me to, and from now, I really have everything to do it, to win the world. And how is you gain this a lot? It's like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

I don't preend the idea of, finalizing the athlete, I'm prend a idea of gain, the athlete. It's that I'm focused. I'm focused, I'm focused on, Jeremy Kennedy because I gain this lute,

a lute for the title that's to get to get to get to if in some of the

round of an end up for a finalization to happen, it will happen, I am a voter complete,

I can't look on on the I can't look at in back, I've just I was

I've been the I'm and the Jeremy Kennedy don't have nothing that I

know what I have seen a opinion, a difference maker, for so to say, like the

Patricia have a hand a man a lot, the, I know, the bico

is explosive and have the wrestling of him. Attention, I'm not I'm not I'm saying

Geramican, because Germican, he's a undertaker a consistent. He's

is consistent. It's well-rounded, despite to be more grappler, but he don't have

a technique or a factor that from a moment to another can do a I have. I have my

cardio, I have my pressure, I have my volume, I have all the combats have influenced in this, especially if your athlete has passed in the first round. So, I think, this realistically not a combat one for him. She'll ask the contrary, but it's a little bit of other form,

as a, as much, as all the others discovered, but it's but it's, but it's it. The Jeremy Kennedy is coming to victory that's going to a quackle

a victory but he's a guy's he's and he's but you know, but he's

there's there's the veridino of the victory. And I think is one of the major names

of the category yeah there, he's a great he's an excellent athlete also,

you think for all these factors and the name that the name that the Jeremy of Kennedy

has also also for other organizations a victory what what this

does you does do you in this your plan to get on the

signoron to know. I think it's not for it's if it's a lot

because this lot of this number one contender fight the

the bestor will to put the I could be

it could be whatever he could be he is a good

he's a lot but but if we're to if we

if we have even he But if comparers the numbers that he loted and I

there's a difference and he had two good, three good combats three, three,

both derotas and a victory, two derotas with the Borex and with the Bokonovsky and a victory with Emmanuel Sanchez.

Tending in in account with him he was when he he was in a round of the

two or three deros, not it. It was, not it. And in contrapartite I've just defuncted

Sam Cicilla Derek Campos Daniel Beichel Mads Bernel Patricio Pitbull yeah a man full of them

and it's a man chea of them and this man shea we've got one of the rota that was with

Patricia so I think the my record can be so beautiful as well he's

but there this type of experience then see if there into. I don't

focus on and seriously not want to know the name of nothing. The new objective is

to gain and turn a champion and it's that this year to me will bring to

me. As I said before, the Jeremy Kennedy is a great-

lot of a good lot of a consistent. Never to be much Shining,

never never a lot much never really always well

I'm always I'm always I'm this is my this is my and it's

that's what you will be able to do not just to not just gain but to make it's that's easy

and it's you're saying that's this attempt that's that's to wince this

this clut that there's on the part of Patrice Pitibu

even what what you do you know that you took to how you

how and how you've then? The first thing, the first was maturity.

I, I, for this lot of was a mature. Also, I mean,

so I had 24 years, but I was very immature, I left me very, because I always was

a person very very confiante in me myself. So, but this

confidence, it was a way to say, it was a Confiance is my name of

a way of to say. And then victory after victory, this confidence

so that I thought that I had the confidence but it was my ego was a ego, and

then when I I got the talk Patricio he, concentrated so much

attention over me especially in Portugal of the media, the thing that

never happened in the M.M.A. in Portugal. And then he And

it and it's the ego and my and I grew to

grow to grow to and I immature I'm I'm let's go and I

know I'm never me forgets I'm I'm after the

and we talk on a question no no no the

one of the first federwe he he he so he's

he he's he said he I'm don't hypothesis. And you know what I want to

say, the M. Plano was nothing of that what happened. It's totally the opposite. Totally different to what happened. But I remember

me to say to me Mervor, you know, I'm saying to me, I'll talk to more round. This is, not so, it was my

ego, completely discontrolled as, as well, it's a disrespect, but it was, substimed,

not so the adversary, with the adversary who is. And pay, I'm and pay the fatura, I'm but also I learned a lot. I learned much and I grew up. I grew up, very, very, very,

very, very. Not so with an athlete, but with a person. I grew too with this derot. Of course, I came for put the pears by the hands,

as a little bit of a little bit of my own costs, and what I needed really was of time. that was I came for plodare

and then to be able to get to get to but it's but it's that's the that I learned

that I came to learn other things but the main was that never subestiming

nobody never never never there no there's there

can exist things man to be but you have to do you have to do it

but they're not not This combat has much maturity. And also this moment,

after this process of the security, of the order to say that I have needed to be needed to have been to take that

to me. I remember that before the question, we did a interview, we told a story,

who didn't know in in English in the site at MME Fighten, this here is a podcast

more voted to Brazil to do but the Portuguese, but you're saying, that you have been a guy

very great in Portugal, where he never never had, of fact, a M.MA a lot, a newmerexed, and you

saw maybe in a, you've been disloombrated to be able, that guy, the famous, the guy of Portugal in MMA, disputing a

and that thought that never would be you ever to be you never, I imagine, it's been

it was a thing, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it,

was the, and how it was it You know, you said, you said, the Lidt Wilson, what, what,

what happened there was, that you said, that you said, what you, what you need to be in the moment

to do, instead of the more rapidly possible to be able to superer this derot to Patricio.

Oh, it's time. Mainly, time. It was that I was that I was talking about,

I was marked to to look with Patricio in September of 2019, and I I came to

to I was going to the event in November of 2020. and then, the event was canceled until November in the build-up of the

last month. So we're talking about one year to prepare me to someone in a space of one year

to do two camps for the same a person for five assouts because one

a thing to do a camp for a time to a camp for a title

not the not the case to be for a case to be for a case to the intensity

physical and psychological is much more and then

then then then then then then it what,

or not my name to to be, and then what I needed, particularly

in that time, it was the time, it was to me, time to train

and without any kind of obligation, go to put to the feet on the earth,

be very what what I did the what I'm in the time, what I'm what I'm

what I'm to be able to do that all blah, blah, all this, all this, time.

I don't know I don't know that I remember I'm a little bit of time I'm talking about in I'm trying to want to be able to I'm originally marked the talk to

Vaisal in this date then the Vaisal remember that the time got to get out of the time that's out of the

and this was for a few months before the and then so that was just was a pre-age

but it was the person was the GGE I was I accepted But in the To go to

To get to Nobody could I took to I'm going to I'm going to To go to The United Because initially

The Ireland Mets was the United As a red flag Destiny And then They'd They'd

To go to A hotel Pague I'd Not even Notable Initially Theerue

And the David Jones That came With him They're And Yeah in the

when I was in the Abu Dhabi and he went in the States States to be there's and over azar I was in the

United the John got to get the sovino alone in the States United and so over all this

that is that is bad the sufficient the my wife had made a my second

the child had had been a week, and I, because this camp,

because of this the I'm in the last, I'm never

I'm never never because of video and then I'm I'm in this

lute internal with me myself by back, boy, will be

bad, by dar, will be dar, bye dar, by dar, and it was,

it was, it's, it's too the super fact that to be to be to be

But all that situation, I don't know, I'd have to have taken off the fish there's much. And no, it's, I, pa, insisting,

I'd beckh until that I remember that I went to go to get to, the Gigi, the Larson

entered, I was to be called, and, and, and that, that hour, for who

the auditor know, that, is the altar that's the time, you can't

you can't to end and, and, and, and I remember that In that

At that I was there I'm at trying to do a my my, not I don't

I don't do say ritual, but, my ritual psychological and do you know to say a

fissue and I remember me to say to me myself, I don't I'm ready

and I just a two seconds to go to go to go to go to I'm

I'm not ready to say to say to me but now to do you

but I'm going to to be back to back to And, oh, pa, and I, look, we'll, let's try to do this round for round. I remember, then, then,

it was, and the first round was there, was there, was there, could be for any one of the two, passed the first round, and I passed the round almost interred in the guard of the G.G. Luce. And then, he, pronged, I said,

the second round, set out of the rotative, and it was, and it was, it was, it, was a, thing, it, was, I think, I think, I guess, I, it's almost

abys at the visor to to do. Ignoree that. Ignoree that.

And there is. And for two times consecutive, in two the two of

different, I paid the favours for this. But, but also I learned. And I

remember me after this combat, I never felt so bad in my life.

I remember that I opened the door of the court, and I

go to go to the floor, it was very well. I,

I don't just say of my career, I'm going to my life whole,

I'm never never things so much personally but that was

very very bad for me personally and but there is also

also with the family and I promised to me to

me to be time to I'm almost this year

this year for me and I'm that It was going to be

and then I'll look at the and then we're talking to go ahead. I think that's all these lessons, with you have, with Patrice, this with a lot with J.J., will talk to the victory in a decision divided

that you think that's beenceal, I think all that, for more that you be a, a victory to dispute to the centuron to know,

these lembrances will always be in your to keep the to keep the top in and not tolumbed to know,

and I'm, I'm saying, no, now you're being the the world of the world, to get,

like, to get you, like, let you, you know, you want, you want, for you want,

you're not , you're a champion, but never never never, never,

exactly, it's that and not just that, it's all this, it was, the quantity of things,

after this, the quantity of things that I have to me myself. And,

and, and, and, and, I'm, I'm going to say, it's,

impossible, no, this is impossible, but it's almost impossible I'll forget what happened. This will, that's, well, that's, it's,

will, I, I see this in a way way positive, because I, I look to go back, and I look to those episodes,

I'm going to these episodes, and even, and, even, I'm more certainty that I, I'm in this moment, I've been quite,

blinded, blinded, physically, psychologically, specifically, psychologically, forgetting, the fact,

that's, pront, or notar, and I passed for, in this period of time, I passed for

a time, and I also I'm going to see, and I'm going to the number three of the

category, the head irrigated, peeped to the pas balls, for so to say,

and preste to turn a number one of the category, after all of all over

over over over the time, it's a bit of a good, I'm, I'm,

I'm of me and there's I don't I don't look I always I'm a I'm a

and and transform this in something positive for me and I always look to go back to that I'm probably

the most the lesson of my life and the lesson that more more than the mania

Peter thank you thank you much for your time in this RETA final

of preparation to the RELM Kennedy and that come in the dispute centuron

with a victory yeah Thank you. Thank you. Again, again, more one once a

bit, and maybe the next one the next one we're going to be the centuron, the preparation for the centuron.

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A, the final, all the vapor, yeah, it's a three months that I'm doing the

last time, so we're prepared a lot made a little bit more a part of the last times,

and now, the last time, so more the manutention to get to to get to that's a

point. How is you know, this is this doesn't know, but all the lot is important, all the

situation in the FC you have been a excellent commissue of the victories about cars

very good good, ex-comptial but in the four of the last few times the result the result

came to be in many categories that would mean the end of the future of the but the future

the FEC is a different but I imagine that the responsibility the piece of this

battle in this battle for I imagine to see in the F.C. Yeah, with

certain yeah I see that my my head is a premium there. I can't

be a post-you- it's a great, like you say, I'm a sense

of this. But at the same I don't think I'm thinking much about this sort of

I'm thinking more in, give the better on the day, I'm

to perform everything we've trained during the camp in training, the

training, and with certain this pressure exists, but my PO

not not not this. I think the T. insugured, in an event, because,

car, I never negu in a lot of LUTA, no, po, are you in a lot of the F.C., unfortunately, I'm going to a sequence very ruin, but, I've a lot of in the F.C.,

so I think, for account of this, he knows no my potential, knows that I can't render even, and that I'll give a vote for over over-cima. So, for this, that they've been insigurated. I think I'm not so the factor of serpensed pesed, pizabeth. Yeah, I imagine that

this pressure that you said, it's a fact of two gums, yeah, car, it's how you can lead with this, you can't deal with that

thing, oh, man, I have to let me get to get in the DFC, or I'm going to get this,

if I'm going, if I'm going, if you're like, you, it's, you know, it's a situation

that you're in front of, yeah, yeah, if you're going to, if you're going to be

thinking that you can be able to be back, so, so, like I'm I'm going,

I say that the pressure exists. I know that's a big but my

focus is in able to get to get a better, do a little do more and say with the

future. So I'm not focus much in this extra cage and in the last few you're in

all the whole of the UFC were in all the other and again now

more a car d'n't so you don't take mollezes what you what you

think you what you you ask the job the game with his game

with a guy that's a lot of he's a way to make a lot to make a

maloctice to him do the round the kind of so I think my job there is not

not much space for he's not he's not so it's disconfortable in the

Kijen and can't connect to those goals and where where you

see more disconfortable in the October he's going to back to be disconfortable

uncomfortable. In a lot agarred, he's disconfortable. It's like I said. If you give a space to him, he likes the game, but if you don't let him with space,

always coming to front, or more collared with him or, or, of maybe, to work down the takedowns, he's got very discomfortable. You train in America

Top Team, where we're a guy who, who was, including the last guy to gain the month. He,

he, don't see if Zekomomberman, a guy that you used to trainer in day-a-day. I'll talk with him about that question he had, like, because one is you

is to see a luther. Another thing is you're not doing the force of the car, what the guy does do you make of the yeah, we're going to trainer much

together, but we're always talking in my academy so I've conversed with him about the lute and he, he passed some

some, I've observed, I'm the maximum, me me followed the points that I have to take to take

to take to take the point he thought the he thought he's sure we're going to go to

go to go back so I'm going to you know what you see getting you think you

wince for via rapid how you can't in the years in the

other against the against against the against Chessieharman or you

you expect that maybe a battle of three rounds I think I believe

I'm very that I'll continue to knockout in this lutee in this lute. I'm ready for long. I'm trying a lot of time here here and I'm focused on this, in the power of

over the end up I think it's a lot of redemption so, for the point of this I'm going to be conscientious, but I'm going to

be able to be not a knockout. If he's got to the three out and there's problem but I I believe in my knockout

in the same of him. Thank you, Camarada, thank you for your time in this RETA final

of preparation. Well, I'm a rebent on the Saturday. It's a time to have a time. No,

no focus. I'm not the focus. I'm really about this victory. And, man, go, going to be. Go ahead.

The other side of the line, we have a victory Sousa, who on the day 24, retorn,

now to ring to the Ant-Championship for the second Luta in an organization embalada

for a victory for knockout in Brazil, in the final-s of the the last, how is it being the expectative for this

second opportunity there's a second opportunity there's a lot. I'm very very well prepared. In the last one, I had limited much my game. I don't never, I was, like, soot, I was, I was very nervous.

My first event of MMA international, and now I'm more free, so, I'm going to solace, more my game, I'm with a proposts more aggressive, I think it will be a lot much better

How was this first experience that's talking to say from the events regional of the

of the luts in events in the world, to go the major events of the world

all the attention, all the holophottes and more they're more a man

that was a great promise for the future of the sport, you've made

you've felt this pressure to to say to

the universe completely different so? Yes, in the one has the

regras very different so I was a little caltelos in this this

because they don't count a round round they're they're a lot they're

a lot of so I think I was with much I'm she was she was

good on the I know the the two those are

good so I'm I generally had been with

men both of my faxia on the she's, she was, she was a

she was a non-jurice she was a russia, and the family of her have this story of the

domain on the the ground, yeah, the family there, so I didn't, I don't,

I don't want to the this was my error, so I just could try in the way,

I was just, I'm going, I'm trying to get my life my job,

and I know, and I'm, you now the facha rooster also, then, so you

have this evolution from from the first of the first to be in the

way to be the head to get a to work to work to be to be a

quite a now, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm lot more more this time I

did I've I've lot a lot event of the

event too I gained different medals during many

time and I I'm feeling very confiant, very confiant me. How is the your life

in your day day? Who we know the athlete for he, for he to he can't be able to

get to start in the first of career, you have a career much, you're starting,

you're your second opportunity there's a time. Because from the time you

you know, you're not so live of MMA. Yes, yes, I'm working, I'm

I'm a contador, when I started, I'm to train at time. I was a

major of age, I had had taken my cartel of motorist and I'm

doing my faculty. Then after I finished my faculty, I was

working in the work, my family, my family is a contador, my father

is a contador, my boy, was a contabord, so the people

I always helped much, that I can't manage my training,

I can't make my hours, and I can't concilier a

but he know that now I am focused so I'm so I'm doing three trainings for

day and I'm considering conciliate with the secretory if I was if I was if I was if I was

being possible in the world of the luta we see the people who got in Jiu-Jitsu

entered on Wai-Tai and influenced by the people were you're doing you're doing you're

you're you're you're you're trying to find out to look I think the fact of

to work with your with your father should help you, he's going to make you know I'm going to be I'm trying to now

I'm trying to if you're working with a time you know could be able to do you know exactly

exactly but but now now he's now he's not he not go not go to

not go to the no no no I'm more more sport

not you're not you're too is you're sometimes I was

I was I was I was to go 15 minutes before the train. He said, "'Nos, but you're so can't

"'train. Don't "'You're train. "'Discan, "'morrow you train? "'I say, "'No, "'Pie, I need "'I need to

"'I need to "'for me "'It was "'Stranio to "'O, "'Or they'd "'O, they'd "'Gustavent

"'to get "'in' "'in' "'So, "'an, "'and, for him "'It's very "'My mom said,

"'I'm "'A, I, "'I'm "'Dililil down, "'and take a-s- "'and, say, "'and, by all world. Then my

my father was saying, ah, it's very aggressive, but now, after all these conquests, because I gained diversions in kickbox. I'm two-examptain Catarinense, two-exes-borsalian, I'm a champion Pan American

of kick-box, I've got to get diverse titles in Jiu-Gitz, also, and now now my father even is starting to be supporting

to play-y- and have always, you're saying, my daughter, but in the first was very difficult. Imagine that for the

Those clients, for the companies, it's a little strange as a very sometimes for you get to a meeting, you're with a look overrocious

until explain that you're a lotator of MMEA that's a lot of what's happening here? Uh huh they're saying

Oh and so much yeah, but they're gonna but they're gonna but they're accustomed to because they're accustomed to because they're always

kind of accompanied yeah yeah yeah I'm like I'm from the 16 years here in the secretory so they're so they're coming to train just for

lazier, and then I'm impuging and I'm trying when I don't know, he's done, I'm sorry,

my God. And how are the expectation for this next one about the daughter? She's an

athlete, she was a preying in one, and she did the career of her until

today in those events menores in the other, but how you see this

case, what you know what you know of the what you can't that you 24.

So, I I watched all the lot of the professional of her she was

in one pride in the event and she she she has a power

to finalize a rapid I I see but I also I

also I think the two have this power to finish

the fight but but my game is more complete

than she you see you She's more She's more She doesn't

She doesn't She goes Right, The girl Mink, the men's kind of keep awkwardas Not respondent

She'll Abafing there, she And getting in this style of Sheenching and join-joled

The majority of the She'll finalized for knockout so she But she She never

She got a man With a My My job is very differentiated I

I can I can Mapier well The I'm and I have certain

that I will say with a little bit. The best is her in order to be in bed or is to use her

and put her to play in the rung? So, the lot always starts in the way, but I

do you confi in the skills in path, I go to a way more aggressive, I'm

I'm trying to work clinch I'm I'm working a lot especially

especially after I started to see the but the and the booted them, or not, I know, the menauntled in the clenched. No, I can't work. And I can't, I, I'll knockouting on the ground impound, or knockouting down, or knockouting up. Maybe, maybe a finalization,

about, unfortunately, fallacending on the final the end, the family not did the

family not even what was, but I'm just 18 years when I said, I'm more said, she's a

great promise of sport, the brothers of her are the men, how is the new,

she saw, when you had, I, I'm, I'm very really, but,

especially because, I have my man, who have a time, and I have her,

like, I have, like, a babyzino to me. And then I'm thinking how the family should have this

sense, and I'm a man, she's a man, she's a really good seeing a future grandios

in front, and I'm a manna of 18 years, our, I've been arrasated the family

entire. I saw by the Instagram of her she made on the publication

of Instagram of her I'm I'm I'm I'm think, and they're

they're not what has been, but I desire, so, that God

receive to her well, and it's a not, not I'm, not I'm to say, not have to

say, to say, to be the family, because it's a great, I know, I know,

I've got my my Tia this year, and it's very, it's very

very, it's, I'm very I'm a I'm, I'd have made some other

other, and in the future would be the revenge with her, but, unfortunately, it's not going to be possible. I've seen those are those

my pessimists, right, for all the family. And not have, no, there's words that will supri the truth of the end ofquired, so.

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