MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles Do Bronx: Dustin Poirier Merece Respeito, Mas Eu Sou O Campeão Do UFC

Episode Date: October 13, 2021

Campeão peso-leve do UFC, Charles do Bronx quer respeito. O paulista do Guarujá, que defende seu cinturão contra Dustin Poirier no dia 11 de dezembro, conversa com o podcast sobre a aguardada luta, o fato de ainda não ser visto como verdadeiro campeão por parte dos fãs, as críticas recebidas por outros lutadores como Justin Gaethje, a ascensão de Islam Makhachev na divisão, a vida fora do octógono, e muito mais. O podcast recebe, ainda, o jornalista Marcelo Barone, da Globo, para analisar as últimas notícias do mundo da luta e o duelo Bronx x Poirier. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC lightweight champion Charles Oliveira wants respect. The Brazilian talent, who puts his title on the line against Dustin Poirier on Dec. 11, joins the show to discuss his upcoming fight and not being treated as the real champion by many fans. He also weighs in on Justin Gaethje’s ‘quitter’ comments, Islam Makhachev’s rise, and more. Then, Globo’s Marcelo Barone stops by to debate the latest MMA news and break down Oliveira vs. Poirier. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Gilmer Cruz Hello, hello, Amigo, well, welcome to sixth episode of podcast Trocação Franca,

a sua about this immense pubs, I'm going to American M.M.A. Faria,

in the Brazil, and I'm back on this quarter day, with a presence illustri of

Charles the Brons, the first champion us visitar in this Mild podcast.

But, but before to talk with Charlene, we'll batting a question of

combat and author of in form of poetry about people about people being in rings and octagoners.

All right my friend. Fahua thank you care, for the convict, pleasure

in the octagon of the troca San Franca Frank. My man, my pleasure to have you know,

we know, we know, we know we've done together together at Tatami, the friend still

brilliant now, now, several years, in the combat, making

production for TV, beelis beautiful A pleasure to see the friend

to be the time in the telings of the globe now, man. No, a pleasure is

my own, but the only just forced out of not disforced never, never, so,

we'll open the podcast this week, talking about about the great bomb

of the last time, and it was Patrice Pitibul abrino

the hand the centuron of the Leves he that was the

champion the title the Pes Pesepeno to the Tpoenae and now

now, not a champion of nothing, I've been simply decided to leave the centralon of the leftes,

the brother of Patrick Pitbull, now will be disputed the centuron vagu, in a revanche against the

Peter Quilley. This is you're how you saw, how you did the mind, said,

this centuron here I don't want more, I want to focus the person, I'm just always

surprise, yeah, there's a thing we was a thing we imagine that we

would be an space to the brother Patrice Pitibu is the major bloodator

the story of Belator independently of the centuron if he will retom or not

he's not he was a man that was a was marked for being

being being was the role of he reenor he

was a champion of other category so the guy

he said he wrote a story great and decided

he decided in a way just opened a space

for him So, it's surprising for this fact. It's a strange for we see a guy who had two conturons until a little

time ago, now I don't have nob, but I think a cause is noble and Patrick Pitbull, also is a

man who really is two guys, and there's these careers there, intimately to be able to

Belta, I think have been being treated with patrimones of the organization because

if the organization is known in Brazil, no way that it is today, many the dewe

the dupe there's always bad the event, always did good interviews, and they're

represented, Neuctor, Dr. particularly the Patrice for the style impolgant.

So, so, the Belator dee much to him and hope that the

Patrick could get this this signoron to repeat the thing.

I'm I'm that I'm sure that's I'm that but

part of me see this as a movement in a chadry of negotiation,

that's the patricio wanted to make a.J. No. Pena. The E.J. was bringing, trying to do the second centuron of Patrice. In a certain way,

the Patricio, he's kind of frusts the plan of the E.J., you want to do that what does the time that the time that he reigned has been in the

Pesopening, because now the Patricio not a champion of Plove and having a lot for a title vagon of a PEOPLE, if the Tuiton,

he will have to to expect that this that's a lot and that's the other one will be, so the patrice said,

oh, calm me, yeah, you're doing this, I'm going to have to be me enthrating obligatorially

in the Pes and also it's not a point, because if we can't think, what Michael Changerer did, he,

he, he didn't want to be able to support the centuron, to put up the contract and be able to

be a free agent and negotiate with F. He came going to after this possibility now,

now that he's no, he don't have any signet revenge with AJ. What he will do? What's the he has to have in a contract? It's a possibility, yeah,

because the Patricia, in a long time, he said that it was the best of the pen, the world, that would be the champion of the FC, could be the chance of him to prove, too, yeah? Yeah, it's always

a, like, the guy has the name of his very big of organization, but always it's kind of other events, to experimented other bols, even

that I don't know the officer, the FC would be a lot of the one, will be a lot of another event to,

in life a new experience, say to be to be in a Dmitry Johnson in a certain form when was involved in

that time, in that when you're in a car when you're when you're in a F.C. generally

you're generally you're not a person to get to RECC. The guy went there in a other

boss, of a other recognition, there's these nuances too of the guy to feel

to feel reconciled and try to I'd have other experiences. I think in the end of the end of the same thing, it was like that's the same thing, it was the best of the

pen of the world, but it would be legal see this in the practice, like, as we're, like, we're, as well we talked about the Dundas, also, that was an excellent lot of the few of the

Union, that's never no other than us in the year. So I think it could be a job of Patricio, so the tempestade, right? He frustraged the plans of the E.J. Abri, the name to the So, it was a good

A good job. It's a good one. They're some patrimonies of Belton. He's, from 10, there's, since if you're looking at the he's already, he's got to the trilogy, there's four luts with Daniel Shostom, he

ended up zeroing the planteau of the Pesopena of Belton, various times, then it kind of getting without a lot of the challenge, uh, the E.J. It was a malo that everyone wanted to see, because it was a guy, a man,

to him to confront him, he ended up he was going to, so is he, he via the motivation of A.J., I have a certain he wants to get to get him,

but, but what more sobra to him in the Belmont? I don't see much for him in the division, I think really,

respire of could be excellent for to the career of his, who is a new, he's a

lot, he did many, he's a lot of that's a I think there are many years of career in the front, and if he wants. So, so, really,

the future, out of the Belt, is a option very good for him. No, no, so you said, I remember that, I was, I was in a patam,

I, I went to gobriah, some thing, some, some action of this type. And I remember that, there are the brothers Pitbull,

who are interviewing, they'd have been to get in a time, how time, it's, like, like,

like, as, they're not, not the very, not the old, Dema,

Maia, Belfor, or, this guy, this is the guy, this is the time they

know how they know, this organization, yeah, it's very difficult, so you see,

the guys, they've got in a F. got a FC really, you'll have a

maybe, there, some, Raphael of the angels, there, but are

many, there, are much time there, and in all the little

in an all no they're not ostracism there, and trying

surviving. The guys, are there are there are patrimones there, and of fact, there's a

word that's a post-a- or a fault of the job, or the kind of a sprint final in the

career, put that the desire, I'm going to go to go to that, I'm going to that's

that's the time. The fact, who has been a battle, and it's the champion

of the division, now, have three luts and three victories in the organization and Ciborg

no, not, no, no, no, and I'm put the central one way, and the year,

that's the parant. Por, Chris and Borke, will confront this person here. The athlete

with all the respect, you know, with a minute, it's going to do the two of the Burtt,

so it's a disanom to think, P, Cressie Borg, one of the best of all the number one or

number two of the division in the world, have to have to have to have done

atletes that in the CNTP she, she has she has she's she gets of eyes

I'm in the logic is that she will take a ball so it's not not me

not be the heart of the impugation yeah we always always see a

but it's counter a carne assades it's not not a

much much the way that you think you you react when you when you

saw that she was she was the next another she

it was the cyborg there of ten years

back that's not had an adversary at a other, they'd

try to put some people put some some people to get a pario and it's a question

of the level, it's a disparity very great can get it, but

it's not a lot that you attract not a lot that you see, a lot of

a lot of a promise too, with a cartel of this can be

not be So, really the Seborg even, even the earlier's too,

she's me wrong recently, recently, never had, since she was she was from the UFC,

and befriended that Julia Budge, if not me again, so, so, the Jule Bunt

was the only the lot of the thing, because it was a champion of Bela, you know,

She had lost in MMA for the own Manda and she was a champion to be it. So she was a

challenge, the last I think it's a category with a lot only one about a campaign,

no, the champion, no, yeah, there's a kind of an a trit with the

FC that, not us know, not us to see it to know, and in

a re-encontra Amanda, I think this is a lot more that will happen a lot more

a lot more a lot daughter-a-a- herraza. My my brother my mother, I think her arguments to put her

time for having been a champion of all the events, for being a priority, for being a high level of time,

there elements for this, but not this, this, this this, this, this,

this, I believe a victory a true of a crisis, and I don't see a

Kavanag as a an adversary on the same patamard. So, so a lot of

a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a I think the question that we have to

see the first of the case the Belton can't get a that's a last lot of the

contract of her final of the NFL if she get, she'll even if she

she'll maybe, even if she will be one of the many the

many of the world will want to want to be going to want to to

even the Apes of her, to do a lot of heavy, imagine that the diet certain,

a job, can be able to get a six and she train with Amanda Nunn, and she'd be able to

have a narrative, and the FC, I think, not exist the category six to

contracting that Havisson, do a animo to that, but the Belta I think

would be the more interested in this contractation because they, they,

they, they, they, they, they, they, and they, to be able to

get a grisibor. And she's a star bicampion Olympic and you think that this is the

best way to the future to the battle in the business involving the Crisibor would be the best of

I think. But also that she is a star a world, it's a very strong

will get a gigante in where where she where she that she can where she's going to

have been the person will have independently of category, you'll have you will try to opting, it might be a host

new, you know, the whole, that's an appeal of champion Olympic, to have passed the car in all the world

in the BFL, and, it's a story interesting, a case, there's a case, there's a

other than the power of a major, but the question of the category of BELATO but

but it would be against the crisis box would be fantastic, then

yeah that all all that's all right to see, because are two great names, independently of the trajectories,

so, are two names that everyone would like would be able to see, so I think the FCE

also are these greats stars, we have a gruega has a kind of campbaliant,

the Khabib has been more, the John is only involved in pages of the police

and, so, Anderson doesn't more more, Giseldro is in a

good phase but also not a way of the way of it's been to find these

names that can't be this brill, this piece and the Keela Harrison no,

without a product done a product a packet complete there, a packote complete, not,

not will have to explain who is the Keila Harrison, she gets there like a

gigante there A post is a moment interesting, no way. Even more in a division so disvasiated

like a division Pesupena of the FC no way to try that a lot of a lot of the first time

the LUTC will be in the division Pesopena after various trocas there came to

Cormon against Aspenlade Norma Norma of Norme Enfrey a

a challenge a lot of a story a hollie that the Holy Home had happened,

andrew the Aspen leads in the time the time because it's not lot since the 19,

there are four battles cancelled in Peasogal she's always having the

problem in the balance, and she will go to get a time

a year a one a one just to try to

you see in this this this this this this

can't this can't be going will be someone that

does it doesn't it doesn't be in the

stratosphere there to have a chance to give a a chance to give a a challenge a manna Nunes today.

Yeah, this is that one of those two. I think it's very cruel even, not, not

not a lot of this time. I think in light of a good lotator, but also I don't, I think it's

great, the ultimate adversary, really, but also I don't think that wins, it's Julia

Rappenna, really, A Lutzeneb, a Lutte interesting, this is really a adversary, nobody gets nearer than Amanda today, but there's a caliber there, a Aspen Ledge, the Norma, still, not-da,

still are a little distant, this pelotone of this, you know, the proper norm, I remember that she came to the same of the hour, there, picked a Lutz in the same of the hour with a Mega-Renderson, well, it's, all right,

and he'd have in the first round and Mellerson had a hypezine and then didn't see the core of the

ball against Amanda so I think neither one of another department and if not was Julianna

Pennery there not be just inventing a superlut and even so who could be maybe it would be

also it would be a day very luminated of the adversary a day very bad

Amanda for her to lose this centuron I think just would be a lot of a form different if we're in

a form of a normal confronts a lot of and then would say I think it's a cato

that's a pretty probably it's not yeah exactly it's it's probably the question

not be not a question for events future and in this event talking of the

athletes of the event will be the Andre Arloves, that this garotan is getting now in the sport, 800 of the

luthers in the FCJ, just in front of the carlos boi, that is a a man of new Brazilian getting in the

person, a guy person, a guy, a guy, a man, a man, a man, a man,

a posture, different in a postura the postura there's a person, a provocator that's a

bad, the guy that makes a trottock running, and, murro in the man,

you see in this sang new Brazilian that we we need in the

people were in a career the verdum the cigano had been careers brilliant in the Fccia

you think the boy has potential to make a big to make a big I'm

I just I think they were they were so I'm going to get this battle

because the Alperlis had been the last he's

champion no no had more the Holly Home, which was really the

name known the adversary of the norma. And I like he adored a piece

too a lot of a piece peser. It was making a good, I think the Carlos Boe

is going in a rhythm good, he, I think Arloves will be the great

test of his although although not not be not the man,

but he's extremely extremely experienced, ex-compe a a

a one that's that's that's one that's he's

never people he's many times the name the guy so I'm the first

the first he will be confronter this form I think he is going in a rhythm

tranquill maturating and learning and building you know and building the career of him

but he's also maybe be more that was the top five

who even will will, go to the pelotone on the top,

I'm in a bit quite a little bit of I think gradually, and I think what you

said, the extra octog not, the foreign- -of-camp of the boi there is very good,

a person, it is a charismatic, it's a nice, he's and,

you know, and, he's a guy that can, he can represent much very

the Brazil also also in this aspect, a guy who knows to sort of use that

social, knows that people can't get a little, a person accessible, who's able to be seen put a piment

in the lot of the other, so I think that's a very important. Today, the KFC valorisa,

it's a point of the FC at a long the career of the lotator, sometimes the

guy don't have got with a lot there's a lot, but this guy is

interesting, he's popular, he, the public likes, he vends ingress

he, it's a repercute. So, but, but, no, the new

generation, Boe is one of most charismatic there's, one of the best

in the question, so a lot interesting, a lot dula, un-gillard, but

, it's, but, it's, but I'm that I can't be able

to make a important for the Brazil to have, there, some

the good names, there's the good a good phase. It would be a good. I think a guy of this new generation that could

be a story of a little bit interesting, because I'm a bollin, he was a gourdine, was a borgian, continued a peso

pes and he was a lot of a world, an athlete of high-readement, well, a guy, a great, good-sim,

so, to be able that he really really, that he really this victory that's the that's the

one of the path of that this is he's going to Arlovesk there's there's many there's a lot

with him we're going to be there we're still in the pastilearer to see recently a champion

Davidson who has been the Charles of Bronx the only the only man Brazilian

with a with a mandan Nunes with two and for for talking in

in centurons the Charles was was announced in the last he was

officialized in the last month past that he will be front the Densporia on the day 11th of December,

that I had anticipated in September, that would be this lute, the UFC that's been rolling to

confirm the new news, but all right. But, but once we talk about about this talk about,

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after much novel, in definition, battered a martello, 11th of December, counter Dustin Purir. All right, me, my opinion. Beaux, I'm very much.

A pleasure to be you here, man. Thank you, man. Poor, a we're in a position favorable, right, since when I

had been decided the date, I said, first or second of December, so I'm not not too much the next

adversary, or not, he was sitting, training, in a lot of the time, and now we have the opponent,

the opponent, I always I always thought that he that would be to be the time. It was a lot

that everyone would be able to happen to happen. It was a lot that would make sense to happen, even before

you and Michael Chandler, but it came to talk to talk to Nate and Jesus, he said to talk

of this, talk to in some moment you thought that not he would be a other person,

and not he? Man, I said, we were, we were in a position favor of, the champion

the champion the name the chance Charles O'Rere a we had a date

of the of the first of the second of the semester, that's the second of the December, was what I asked. So, many, a last month of the December, the first, second, the semester, was the fact of the first, the second time of the But first, how is it Casa this game? You said, I'm going to be He's just over the role on him, imagineable

that would be he, how is the job of Charles with Poria? Yeah, it's really the guy who deserves all the respect to the world, it's a guy

very long-annied, batte very d'clock, a guy who really does great wars there, in the FCN, in the Octogroro,

but in fact, the reality, the world, like I said to I'm like I'm not too who's the next opponent, I want to

what he will bring, and, that we can do we can't get to the octagon. I've been

more showing how I have a power in the octagon the point that I can't get a porrada and go out of

the car see how much my jit's go going to goluing so I'm going to go ahead of an octagon to post how

the quite that I am good, I'm going to I think everyone know the shalers is the guy of the jiu jihits everyone who

does the people who get a lot but I'm quite quite I'm going to go to be

going to how I've I'm I'm ready so in the way and the time,

it's a war. You're a man who can't a lot of the time in the time

but the thing is the thing that he's a thing that's long of your career, 400,

the lot of the fight in the other than you know, the form that you can't

how you can't how it can't how it's to adaptate because it's not much

you're even in the academy maybe sparrings sparrings if I

don't me I did I'm going to I did a guy who were canyote and the team

the football Diego Lima is a seniorer of great champions everyone training, like doing,

like it's like a guy on the person to look to work in a thing that's a lot of

a guy who's differentiated my brother a man, a guy that me really different,

yeah, all the when he's always always always being always being always always

always you can't go to the right, never to go to the to train, continue training, focused.

Like I said, I'm happy with what I'm living with this hype and I think this is more important, the head is legal, the body, legal, the mind

legal and does a great lot. The Porya gained the CENTURL two two years, the second, the first was a

second, the Kono, came up on the Perno, but was the battle attending to favor of Porya.

The performance of their you impressed you, something you came to the Kohner, or it

more because the Kono, not that that's the guy of the other, that's a guy intimidator that's a

guy, he's a really, he needs he's but as, as I said, it's a great lot. I'm very happy

with the opportunity I'm having my clen my cinturoping with a guy who has a great luthes and go to you're going to see a lot of

you know, you know, you think you are a respect that you're having a respect that you know, that I think

that especially not the world, I don't have, the respect that you're I think not, I think,

I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm not the reality I'm, I'm not the people,

I don't know I'm glad-a all, but I'm, But I just think we have to to put in a balance. 11 years to be a champion

of the FC, in the category. Nine victories. Recordita of bonus, recorgita of finalization. The guy who most demuror was to the sturtain,

I think he mercee the respect to the lot of the point of the Michael Chandry. I'd be of eight victories. Who was the guy who had more

the first victory than I? I don't leave in the mind of the judge, I go, I go, I don't know the only look

that was the point was the one of the point, I don't need to be talking. So, I picked a lot with 15 days.

Not there was a month, two, six, me, not it was 15 days, and I did what I did. So, the fight with Michael Chandan,

Michael Chandan, he was able to get a hand in me, and I felt, he got a opportunity to finish. He didn't have an

opportunity to finish. When I was a man, it's a man, it's a respect. So, so, many people, both of Brazil

and in the Brazil, and the world, but there are people who don't have respect. So, so, if God not aggrat, because I will aggrad,

I'm going to go ahead, but I'm going to go to the worst. Many people are going to win the Dutch, to prove that I'm playing with the champion. I'm going to wincy this here in the beginning of the second. You feel a lot of respect in the UFC, too? I think no. I think

I, I think, I think I, I'm being being being valorized with a lot of that pass financially. I've been vencering more. I'm going to be being being more I'm being

treated there's a so I'm doing happening, I'm going to be working working in legal

I think each one, I think because I'm being a lot of being in more quiet, for them is

not so good but I compensate on the time I'm going to I'm going to I'm going so I'm a guy

that's talking not some guy talking about balela and chieninginguisa for a-huh and I'm I'm going to go and I

go and I go and I'm go and I'm like that you say that many people just

will consider a champion after you after you can after you get a for he's not that you're going to

be a man that's really exalted and acclamated by the public American, especially I think no when I'm when I'm going to

be seen it, you have to be this, you have to be this, have to be this he's, then in reality

we continue looking and doing doing this story, looking being, the head in the world,

focused, like I've been talking much to with the Macacacco, I'm saying I'm

being to be mentally, physically, spiritually, this is your way. I'd like to talk with the best of the life and I'm doing doing this.

There's nobody who's a sequence of a victory like I'm in, I'm going to be one. There's no way, no matter, and you

didn't even can't contested. The decision unanim so, or I'm nocaughte, I'll finalize so, then we're to come to come to up.

A we've said about this lance to Puri mention the name of Nate Diaz, in instead of mirro the centuron, mir a lute

with you. And many a lot of people, we'll have used this to try a little moral, like, like,

nobody can infecting the guy, the guy, the champion, nobody can have a chance to the centroro

prefer to do a lot for the money than the status of the stotoron. This you also, you

also, that the kind of the kind of, the guy, but in the position of the champion,

ver someone to, like, end-as- -offing, the centuron, you know, then,

in the reality is a balance, like we're going to like we're talking we're talking of a mania it's a balance the guy not coming to

for what? For me for fear? Or because he prefer the other side? We never will have seen

we never say we're never never said I'm sure I'm sure I realized I'm still reused I'm a champion

of the FC I'm realized now I want to maintain this signtural no matter no matter

if it's if it's will be so I'm gonna be going to a lute in my view

with me with the fact of the money for and get to put more money on the contract,

is wrong, it's right? He has he has to do the choice of their and you know,

he don't to know to know if he's more money when the guys do you do this

type of the case of you know, or you think that's the money? I think it's money,

he said he got a centuron, if he would be able to if he'd if he'd be able to

get to then sometimes you're thinking in putting more money to make money, not,

there's not, it's right, not, that's I'm talking about the Cinturon, you did, you know,

you've got to have that's an piece of old, exposed in house and but there that's a little

chata, when you received the signoron, that the that the Chantz got who was with the

was, you just got a got a place, you're getting with your name? I don't,

in the United, it was to me to have been to my time, but I'm going to

go back, but I think Diego will try I think I'll take now, I'll take it now the next time when I'm going to put to go to

my moment there's like that yeah, I'm gonna be a plaque poor no matter I'm sorry I'm talking I was talking

I was I was gonna and I'm gonna talk about oh sir you're not can't and you're gonna talk about

we're gonna but you're living a moment that's been you're all the whole entire to live so I'm

in this moment I'm trying, what I I'm trying, I'm, I'm living, you know, I'm a condition better for my family, have a house legal, have a car legal, can't

eat, you know, the people who are, people are, I'm going to be, so, I'm, I'm doing this hype, ta-garetting, trying to be

getting to more, so, I'm, I was in a moment so nice, that hour, with a lot, with a lot, like I,

I said, like I was saying in the interview there, you know, you could buy your own, you can't be your opportunity,

you never had this opportunity, you know, the rope that I I got the people of the people. I bought my clothes and I was pretty-old in a day there was a little bit, I was there, like, no, I said, oh, then you're, you know, I said, you're going to do.

You know, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to be. What you've got to do your son, like, that's your dream, like, of a lot of a new one, now that you're a champion? Yeah, my house, I just came to buy a house da-hour, legal, period of the prairie, that in Guarroja, like, a house that I never, I always dreamed to have, you know, to be by my family, you know,

I'm able to do things good for my family, my car, you know, everyone's about I'm a passionate for a carol, like four,

five years ago, I always said I'm having a one of the first first for who not even for people not know, it's the top,

you know, the best, the best, two, two, two, two, two,

that's, like, I'm, I could, could buy, could come, and I'm, so,

I'm, I'm, so, I'm, give a condition to my little bit, and I,

and this things, came, came, every more more than more than more than the way I'm very happy

so many people who don't know this is your other way I think you a matter really great with you know about

about your little bit of your little bit about the life in the pastime and the

pastoral and what kind of people what kind of kind of you like to do you

do you do a part with the car hair a charrette yeah carid carrieed

yeah this American Trot there's a there in Argentina there in the States there

in France, there's in various places, it's a person's a passionate, man, there's a in a body

tattooed, and I like I'm too, but it's a thing that's a calm, when I'm I'm a lot of

I'm going to be there and I'm going to be working on the carvales, I always, I always, always there

always had people, because I'm there's a time to be there so, and now I'm getting back,

because I'm like the guys my friends of my people, like, you know, you invest legal and

you go, because you don't go. So, I'm going to my own own own own my own

little I'm doing my little bit of my caravlo, running my horse and then you're doing a little little bit more

I'm doing this after you're going to be the States and was a New York and there a career

against the guy that was the the pick of the sport apparently I don't

know I don't know that's that really really really really and you

got to the battle the lot of Michael Chendel he he was he was

he he was in the right but It was a great. It was very cool, because I've got a opportunity to carry the cavalry in the United, I think,

I always have the son of I'm in the United, where I was always the same thing, in the way that's where I grew, never in the States of the United. So, I had an opportunity to go there and could go ahead and he's the Iron Sennon

of the world of the Cavalas, you know, everyone is a passionate by the car, all the world who has a carol, there's a lot of there in house, poe, the women have camisetta with a car, the guy, has, a The guy has

a man, he's a man, the thing. And, and God, it was so good with him that's the

carol of his and he's going to he's over going to and I'm really great because

nobody people, I think it I was to get to get to get a car,

and I know, and could get there, the owner of the farm to be carol to me

to carry, he, he got, he was he was he was like the people,

he people, man, I'm I'm I was really I was very I was a dream of a carval in Argentina and I was going to carry a car with a

man with a name of that he, and in the final he said that when he looked at me when it was the hour of chileged by the lagrant, he remembered him as it was the first time that he was in the States of the United and it and he said he said that he said that I was a very champion, so, so, so, this me motivated a lot to back to Brazil

and to carry my covellers here, to be able to hear this to a guy like him, this valorizes a lot. The guy that you He's presteed the He's devious He's devious Yeah, because you

Probably value Very much The caval of his After the victory Yeah, no Po, with certain Because the caval Gannual got there

Man, and he, even he had He was, not by the fact of the Caval of Cui But,

but, like, I'm trying against a guy who is much more more experienced than I, but it

by the fact of I know of the people me ensnaring you know, always me, man,

oh, the name this, you go doing this, I've been learning I always want to learn things new

so I'm really I'm really with all the world I'm going to like that's the man who's the man who's champion in the

world and championing for you imagine for you see a different you got over the guy and made that this relation legal

not like the world of MMA that nerves afo of the reality is a vera yeah it's a

it's a thing really good so everyone want to get to get a guy we can't say the caval

he knows he he can gain too There's Caval, we know. The Caval, he can get

and he has the pujance to gain, he knows the hour to get in the M.M.A. It's very

different, but I'm very really, everything going to be going to carry a carval,

could be this legado this legado this year that I've made this year, that's the

man who came the back, the mild in the favel, but even continue a humud and

we've been pregating this and doing this way this side um... a man a person

provocator, a guy of a lot of a treet. He's a lot of people, who are the contrary, who likes to say it, I guess to say a murderous, my adversaries, Michael Chender, the Kevin Lee, the Tony Fethamson, were the guys who were quite quite before the the lot, the poorier is a little more

different, you know, a guy more apparent to be a guy more educated, a guy not much of trash talk, and everything, it's different if you mess with you, the form how he lived, to know that you're going to to a lot, that not have this element

of the provocation? Of the reality, no, because, I'm going to tell the idea to say, the guys who more that's the most that's the most it's like,

for me, I'm not a lot of the world, for me, I'm a lot for my work, my job, I think I'm don't think I'm doing the money, I think I think I'll put the pound

every day in my house, in the house of my family, the house of my father, so I'm going to go to work, no matter if the

guy will say, me provoke, if you're going to want to be doing, to do you, to do you, for me, for me,

because, there's much what I'm going to say, oh, man, you know, no, you can, no, not will make a difference for me.

So, like, for me, it's just more a little bit to do that. I'm going to do happen to happen. I'm going to

know a lot of after the lot. I was there and I'm back in fact the car about a lot of people, you know,

a lot of, you know, always when I know, this one of that we've done because I went to put up

for the , oh, me did a force, you know, conversed with many times there,

so, so, so, it doesn't make a lot different. Michael Chendry also, he said a when it's,

I don't have a lot. I did a break in the case of the car. I mean, it's a difference. No, it's a provocation, but when the guy,

is a guy a good way. This makes with you in a more form, no? Not, too. No, it's not. It's not.

I'm going to work. I'm going to be done the same way, I'm going to be the same way. No, don't have to be a more than the

problem, I'm going to be able to no, I'm going to go to the same defending my sign to Brazil. The Chandler per day,

but continued talking, he opposed, he said, he said, he said, but he's a

good, he's going to be going to be this, he's going to be going to be talking to you know,

saying that you say, you say, the narrative that the poor, the really, you know, in an interview

saying that, po, this no, if he did exist if he had a against him against him

against me when he had the opportunity in the opportunity to ask of the

, you know, it's a thing you this, this, no, the guy desiste,

oh, because in a lot of he was knocked out. You said, like, as if I was in a sport, that the people

not were not notherty yeah. Michael Chandry, he came, he was contracted to the officer to be a

opportunity. He was a hand d'clock to wince the and then it got to knockouty him. Dusty Gates.

He was an opportunity for the Cinturon against the Cibb. You know what happened.

I don't say what I know what I've been in my life, a man who was a man who

I don't have to know what he needs he needs to say he needs to are there's not in a holofort, in my vision what's happening is this.

It's a fall for a lot. Yeah, 11th of December, Charles Oliver will be able to be able to be able to talk to do this sturdone, if I'm going to go to the mind of God, I'll continue with this sulturn. These guys have to win, they're going to when they're going to try to see if I'll desisting.

They don't understand what are other charles mentally, physically, spiritually. They can't bathe d'n. But is it can't when I bathe them? So, like, in reality, I still continue my chars who don't say, I don't

continue to my sapatino, so these guys want to appear, so they're gonna come, they're gonna say, he's gonna be,

a year, a little bit more that's what time does? Yeah, everyone has been the ultimate of his time,

so, so it's a time, so, I don't know, I have to say, so he has been to say,

to say, to happen, to happen, so, like, Michael Chend, accepted a hand,

really, me, me, me, beat him, and I, everything. I didn't desisting for what? I'm not doing, physically, spiritually, spiritually. When I battene

he, he doubled. So, so, I think that what they're saying not much, there's much, there's much, there's much, there's much, and then he, and then, he has to, he thinks that he, he thinks, he's better than I, you know, you can't ask me, you can't trust in who you want, you, you'll bet on your cavalry, you can't put in who

someone, it's much difference in who, I don't know, let's just to post it, or don't let's, it's we're in the other people, and we're people,

and you're in mind, you know, it's not a different from me no way, no any of the same thing you're never really, I'm

really like the other people, I don't know, people who's who I think that I'm desistent, that I think they're going to make them, and

wince the lute of them, and then we'll see who will get, who will get to be, but I'm just the only thing to say,

both in par, and you're not the time, don't get to talking, don't get to say, I would have

I would put a papaya a little to get the other there's a bugger that's a little there's a whole year to I'm a year

I'd get a little you have to be the power of the foot in the hand, you have to be a good, you have to be mental

physically and you can't be able to be able to be able to be a day and then when you're in when you're in the 15 minutes

25 minutes pipo'clock so in fact you don't even it's not even you're saying the champion the charles of

bronze but there's people who consider for example We have a We have a ranking there's a ranking

on our site that's a different of the UFC we put a ranking of all the athletes of all the events not just limit to the EPC

in the first each one can do you can do make the rank to work in the way to do that way

the guy is the champion he automatically to go to the rest and the rest of that's and much

the majority the site puteer the number one the division of Pizzes Lebe

and not you consider that the story recent of his is superior to your

historical to your story, what you I said, I said, I said, you have said your money,

you can't all the time, everyone actually, we know, to prove who is the people,

who are the better and that you're not going to say to start to get to I'm in

I believe in me, I think I'm more more than he, and you put it put in the

balance to all you all the people, and you see all the the last

last the last what I'm good, that he's good, and it's a all the

kind of you see what happens. The guys that part of the procaation put him very much

fast and if I put it to back back you know what you know if he will be

putting with me you know that I know that I mean yeah 11 to get

a foggau I'm I have my jitzo I'm respect him I'm I'm

want to be being a champion I want to continue with this miss

here. We have two months and a little to train to do you do with you. And it's it.

Man, the most important we're going to be happy. This I'm I'm very so I'm going to say, I'll

keep the other keep on my head, I'm going on Instagram, the guys who are saying, like I'm going to like I'm going to

agree with the world, because I have to grader all right. Yeah, that's exactly this point that you said, exactly this point you're talking much, is the Rabib,

he was he was respectful with you, he said, that's the your era and now, that's the

your moment, but he gave a push of a sardina to the braza of him, he said, he's a

guy who will be the guy who he's been to get to be a hater, yeah, porhams

by the alo, saying that the guy no can't have been a lot of

he's making the hand-gall, the guy was, the guy was a man after he's

after he's after he's been enteased because who no he no train more The guy has a man,

and just to be doing a pitacko in the way of the other now? Yeah, he's, like he, he's he's going to push Mark A Cheve,

a guy who's a family of his part of this. It's like I said, no, see, so, we need to talk about all over

the Lucha does what, he's all over all over, not all over, he does the Zambor, he can't

be putting me to be brought to me back back. There's, there's much to say, there's much, there's a lot,

if my mom I'm going to say, what, I'm going to my, this is real. It's what we said. We're going to hear,

we go to hear what the other say, and we're going to get to do. So, in reality, we just have to do you know what? I think he's going to do you know what?

I think he's going to go to the other good, right? He's going to be going to talk to Duhn't again. I think he'll go to Rutherk.

I think he'll see if he's going to go back to through the Duhn't. I think he still a little to play to look at the centuron.

There's great people who are in front, but it's a man who merits respect, too. running the job of his story of his,

you're going to be a respect. You're a guy who has a respect of many people in the world of the I don't know, you know, you, don't accompany much the radio social and but imagine what you

have seen what you become a champion, many people, exalting you, because you're not a guy who went to the UFC, gained him,

three lute and he's turned the champion, you have a story of superation until to get in this moment that was your great dream,

many people, Marlon Morais, Edson, Barbosa, Enato Boecoe, were three names of of various

in interviews said that came as an inspiration in the career how is to be today a example for a lot of a lot of the other

yeah really, man I'm very very happy really, I propose to my life, I said in the

first, I said to show me, to show you can't be able to come up, I'm not

talking just of the but in all, but in all, in all, in doing,

and doing, and I'm doing, I'm trying, I'm, these things happening, you know,

these days I've said the person, that the kids are the people are not going to not a

criminalism he's not, he's he's he's still he's not so I'm really,

I'm in the whole of my whole things that all this badglo really great, great, really

really great champions, greats, greats, guys who chasers to get us, to me motivate this,

for me this me motivates, it's what me motivates it's what it motivates, to be able to to be Omaro

to say, to me, see other the Edson to say to me, the Mokan, to say the see the kids,

me to be a message in a client's in an audience in a little bit of this, I'm going to be in a little bit, pa.

Oh, this will be motive, man. So, I'm going to be the people, it

and I'm a day more. And we're never a never, you know, you're a champion of the FC

today, you're new, it's new, yeah, it's a lot a lot in these costs there. What's your pan for the future,

it's a thing you want to do, like, until the 50, do you know, or stick the cord the maximum possible, or no, man, man, is to stay in the auge here,

I've been to come to a house and I'd like your doing. Yeah, in reality, a we have to be, a, we have to,

the point that we don't, not, not the emotion, you know, when we're going to get, when we're doing when we're

physically, you know, and not are machuced or nothing, to do something to be able to get money in front, to be able to get money. So I think it's it. I want to try and keep a head well, the body,

you know, while this will be happy, me motivate. Logic, try to end up with this in an auge. Not, not for it. But I think it's it. I think I'm focusing on,

and looted while you're doing it. Maneer, I hope you, I hope, I'm going to be your own, I'd like you'd like to do your time. I think of your time. I know,

the corredia, the locura, even more now, with all obligations of champion but anxious to for the day

11 of December I'd see finally putting this centurion countered my name my man, we're doing

thank you very much thank you back back again after we're after we're talking about we'll hear of

you know that's a vehicle Brazilian, I'm working in the global that has the rights

of the FC, are always doing all everything to the events here in Brazil

how is the image of Charles today in he's he's turned more than he was before

for having the the centurion of the FC, how is he, he has potential to be this guy, to be this is he's in aido,

as he has in cases like Josealdo. Annesoville, Belfor, are a guy that's a bit more

distant, I imagine, but a guy like was a great name too, the charles has this

potential, you see this response of public every every time that you

do you know, I think he he's turned more more more

he, he's after he conquest the but I think that the great public still not a

name so popular. I think this is two factors in the factory. The first is he still not never never

to be able to be a grand champion a champion a recent, he's a title at a minute

a little a man so not not that he's defending various times and then he

putting in vogue and doing interview and working in line and filering adversaries

and being badalado and then you have been with that that thing durator

and other I think that is Jose Aldo and Anderson also were being so

under being Anderson even because it had been being being being a stack and

but I think they they've picked the UFC very in alt was

that febree, it's going to go to the UFC in Brazil, P, C, you know,

to do you have to do there's a year, there's a New Marlainjah and the South, more of the

other cities too, they did a city a little in a bohanna, there was some of

Burlandia some of these these cities menores, finally, rodow, Poh,

every two, three-me- three-mey, At every three months, there had a UFC. It was like that thing. It was a guy that kind of surfaced, I think.

Because I don't think the Aldo a guy extremely charismatic, but it's a guy flamenist. It's a guy who took a lot time dominating. A guy who did a commemoration epic in Rio. And, poor, in an event

was a FC Rio 2, so a thing was a gigante. So I think that this allude, you know? Because the Aldo not so did. He never even a job of image

and a staff working on the image of his sense. Nothing much very grandiose but he

surfed a on the really great a man that the story of life really great was a moment very illuminated

of the FCC so I think all these guys were very famous in this time and especially the

guys that detino the centuron so I think the an guy accessible, a character, a smart, the guy, a good, a guy good, a guy, a good, a man, a

very talented, a guy, a differentist, a man, you know, you know, a man, you know, you know, you know, a place, I've got a house in a man, to have a place, but you see that's the same origin, the same simplicity, the guy, says, , Charles, no muddough nothing,

I think he'll be able to consolidate the reenade, you know, to this other than, a lot of Poyere, that is very difficult, a lotta d'all, and then it's a fewler, who knows, and then the thing is going to, but I think the moment of the FC there was a year,

there's 2012 when Aldo lutted in Rio, 2003, and 2015, even when he loted with a connor, that's been a fever, so this also, I think, could collaborate very, for these great

names, to be very high. I think the The hazard of his same thing that happened that happened was a thing that

he's turned to champions in a pandemic that the obviously to be here to do

here, to make a publicita of a press, to do do you do

do you do a practice the the mark of Charles with the public Brazilian

so so the so he turned the pandemic and he didn't turn the

pandemic he he didn't have the chance of this market in the Charles the first

the first when he finally when he finally was going to finally was a

a main event in Brazil against Kevin Lee was just when when it was when it was to look at a gymnasies and he was

not there never been being done so it's not so it's wrong so it's the hazard of the moment

of the birada of a guy to to dispute the centuron was a moment without this was

it would be getting the story of it you did you make a excellent matter with him just

with him the last of the a car, a thing curious, that the public is a look at a

man who's a lot of the guy, he's a lot of the guy, I think it's also also former over the

time, he's a few hundred years, the guy has a lot of the other the country, the story that you've just

were doing material about the course of carlo, now that he'd dispute a centuron, like,

so, so, So I think it's a Coup also of the UFC of not use the mark the machine promotional of their

to put on a push-zio on Charles and help to him to turn a guy more famous here in the Brazil, right? But,

but the fact, you said, well, the pandemic, really, it's a price that all the world paid

but he came back on the moment that was to it was to be to be able to maybe,

who, who with this pujance total, how many programs of television, many interviews,

how many times they could have activated the mark Charles of the bronze, and really the pandemic

impossibilor, let me see whenceeing this lot and passing more a time with a centuron

if he can be this car popular, but I think the most important is he

continuing a person an guy accessible that I think this that's the same

that the people have for him I think it makes he top any something

and be a guy that's always disposed and you don't see you know

you don't be blind you can't you can't get in the hype all

can get space to put to be to other

situations to help the sport, to help the companyers of team,

so that's important, we see, for example, Amanda Nunes, who has the level a lot of

a problem, and it's a problem, to get a interview, to make a material legal,

so she Amanda is a lot a lot distant in the public Brazilian. She's a

great person, in the story of life, in the story of no,

she, she's a good, she, she's a person, distant. It's a person that you just heard to say,

or hear a material legal, or hear what she has to say about the things, in this period pre-lut, there, well, because the rest of the time, she really really, it's in a redomac

that creates in this disdancement. She'll just a more, too, there's a factor a more, and a pain, it could be a personage more well-approveated, I'm going to say. That's the truth.

Amanda, it seems that it's not quite, it's not about a matter, I think she's she's a

good, have to do the money, get to get a family, and be a family and see a man, that's a member,

that's a whole, everyone see the time, everyone's arm in the charles, but, seeing the

side of the United, the fans American, I see much the resistance even. Many people

who don't respect to Charles as champion there, there's these narratives that are

repeating, the Jesse Gates said about this. Someone says, no, because the Charles, he desist. When the difficulty

comes, the Charles desist. The Charles has passed for a lot of the F.C. He had

had a lot of lesons, being finalized, for guys that in the paper, he was a real.

But the Charles, is what he says, it's a new Charles, it's a new new

a new I'm a new case. I think, the people are demuranda to turn the page.

He said, well, the Charles, he, not is Rabib, he not

he not he's won't have a lotter more complete, more mature, and a lotator who

turned the champion of the UFC, many people not see the Charles even as well the champion

of the other think the Dens and Porier is the world, the Densk Poryer is the

king without the crown, and the Charles of the Bromx maybe just just just just getting

the centurion to the Porye to get in December. At sometimes it probably

cultural maybe, Justin Gates, Poirier, the Press American, there's a other vision. Charles is a guy who who's a guy who speaks is a guy who can't be always putting,

be able to be position, for Justin Gates, especially is a guy that's a lot of a lot of a way of the Brazilian but I think the cartel of Charles says for you

so, for more that he has lived on alt and backs there, even normal because he's there 10 years. But it was a guy who's always

he got a duree's, yeah, car. It was a year. It was in the beginning of career, was Jim Miller, was Serroney, you know, never was a guy very easy,

and he put him that sequence of the Swanson with Frank Edgge, so, so, man, he never a life

and this sequence that he implaced now, this retta the retta to,

the title, you know, finalizing general, poe, knockouting, like he was completely

passed a suffolk with a lot of Michael Chandler and still also, so, I think, Charles,

deserves respect, man, I think he deserves respect, he did much for where he, not had

the way, he never passed to have something similar to something like

with the something was, of that that that's a bit that's a lot of that's a lot, whor,

ralow much to have this man, this there's this there me're just because, poor,

we're working there's a time a time, and the chance I don't win and we didn't,

and we're, we're going to be a game, perhaps it's, for some for some,

for some, for some, it's, for a , he's, the head, the head,

the head the chame the chak- and jack- then, and he, he comes to dispute

and, and then when he will dispute, he'll lose, and, I said, I think, I think of this respect respect,

he's for where he's in a grand phase, will get a lot of gruexia. I think Poirier is

a favorite, but I think the moment Charles is very illuminated, I think Charles is really

prontissom there, it's very, it's going, it's a mercedo, I think Charles,

can't to say a bad to say, the guy he was for where and this sequence

the ultimate of his was impressive with a question of the child not that he was

he gave to convince the FC they didn't they didn't clearly not they didn't they

just put one a other but they don't make a sense in this

route there yeah he because he did the he did a sort

to Poirier prefer to make a a lot of a

money a grue and there We had to put to Charles with a Chandler

because if the Poirier would say I want to put a centurion, it was a chance to get the Chandler

and Poirier disputing the Magrega to be in getting standby there just just waiting to be the

Charles or Chalers to be going to it was a tempestade perfect there.

The Poirier didn't make sure no way so much the division the future of Charles

if to to get to get to pass to pass to the coming back to

front, passing for the Poirier, not it's not easy, you mention, the Jackson Gaites, you mentioned, the Michael the Chenever, Darius, Marachev, Dan Huck, have conditions

to defend more one way, so maybe two, but I think there's a

lot of people there, a lotteator, it's a very, a lot of a lot of uncto

there, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's, I think,

it's, Marachéheve came with all the too, too, so, this category

is very impugant, so, and, Tomargo Gertorval, to make a vence

in some moment, that also that's a movement too in the ball that's a person who's

a character that he's a character that's a character every time that's a time he's a time he's a time over

over the loss of the loss of course he's over and winning that's a thing that's something that's

he can't do it's but it's so they're some for the next capitals we're

we're having to be this edition special of the podcast in special because we're

we're Marcelo Barone, between us. I'd like you, my friend, for the participation. How do you are to the people who are

going to be where we can't get to see the social. And I'm going to Twitter, I'm abarrobaugh-Marbonne Instagram, M. Barone,

with 2-0. 0. And always there incombate.com tentating with some materials out of the cache,

at times in some productions that we can placar in the TV. Many with Rafael Marin, also another lenda, casca gross-grossi-since,

but I was finalized. But it's it, we're in the lute. Saladage, too, to cover a F.C., loco, that fight week, that opportunity

to live with the athletes, interview them, and to ask the stories, so it's doing fault. But in in brief,

if God, we'll be there, I'm sure. The best part of Fight Week, in, to find the and to take a beer

after the media day and then the time that's a time of the time. It's the

most part. But, sure, but it's off, but it's not. It's

really, it's a need to because the last time. The last time, it was being been to

Brazil and we don't have media day. We don't could be in the pesage matinal.

The event we can't go to the gymas the house the office was a lot of

was a much Brucho, in the reality. It's still new than we'd be able to pass over there. But it's

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