MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles Do Bronx E Amanda Nunes Buscam História No UFC 269

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

Charles do Bronx e Amanda Nunes lideram o maior UFC do ano em Las Vegas, apenas a segunda vez na história que dois brasileiros defendem cinturões na mesma noite no UFC, e seus treinadores Diego Lima e Anderson França conversam com o podcast sobre os desafios que Dustin Poirier e Julianna Pena representam aos campeões. Lima comenta, ainda, a descrença do público americano para com seu pupilo e as lutas do cantor Bruno KLB no MMA. França fala do sucesso da judoca Kayla Harrison no MMA e possíveis lutas com a “Leoa” e Cris Cyborg, além das próximas lutas de Pedro Munhoz, Thiago Marreta, Edson Barboza e Renato Moicano no UFC. O podcast recebe, ainda, o narrador Luiz Prota, que fala da vitória de José Aldo sobre Rob Font, as grandes lutas do UFC 269, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Charles Oliveira and Amanda Nunes headline UFC 269 in Las Vegas — only the second time in history two Brazilian UFC champions defend titles on the same night. On today's episode, their coaches Diego Lima and Anderson França discuss the challenges that Dustin Poirier and Julianna Pena represent. Lima also weighs in on the disrespect towards Oliveira as a champion and the time Brazilian pop singer Bruno KLB joined Chute Boxe to fight MMA. França talks about Kayla Harrison’s success in MMA and potential fights with Nunes and Cris Cyborg, as well as upcoming bouts for ATT standouts Pedro Munhoz, Thiago Santos, Edson Barboza, and Renato Moicano. Then, Combate play-by-play commentator Luiz Prota joins the podcast to look back at Jose Aldo’s win over Rob Font, the upcoming UFC 269 action, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, lo, my, friend of Luta,

well, the 24 episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a your house on MMA, in this immense port of the sphere. I'm Gailerme Cruz, correspondent of the site American, the M.M.A. Fire in Brazil.

and I'm back on this quarter Friday in the company of Diego Lima and Anderson France, trainers of the

champions of the champions, and Amanda Nunes who call their titles in the game against Duce and Julina Penh

in the UFC 2009 that happens this Saturday in Las Vegas but we we'll bathe with a question to

a real imponent voice to combat to sport TV and know all all the M.A. All right

for you M. Great Gie Cruz, our gigante all right satisfaction here to

your podcast view? Very Thank you very very very very great thank you. It's a great passion I'm a great passion. I'm

I know since the tempest from the tatam, even when we did that those programs there in the sport interactive, in the commensile the sport interactive today.

It's very to be able to go and continue to to try this idea with you here. Let's say that there

much good consider this month of December, to the Brazil, to our squadron

Brazilian, V, Geyn. With the UFC, it's a year of the year a month, a month

year to be a year, the defense of the center of the center, Jusieldo in a action, is a

year really really special. The next the next the end of the time is a time of

the last the last the last that was really really really really

the show of Zzado against the Robert Fon that's athel but the

year in all the rounds with three knockdowns, giving a pass a very good

rum to the dream of the second syndrome of the FECA. What did you think of the performance of the Aldo? You surprised

the way he won't a manseed a car so Duh? Me surprised very, Vue,

yeah. Many people expected, he lived in a moment different, or vivian a moment

different of the career, with, I think were four victories and he

was the kind of the car in the head to try to get in a postulant to the

but the whole of the category is a reen that never should be despresed and for who had

been to a lot of five rounds saw the opposite of this view an aldo growing

in the finalzio in the finalzio the first in afts or in much time

various knockdown in your adversary, doing a lot that encheed of the

and also gave more more experience for what the Aaldo could do do in this division.

He did a pass gigantesco to try to try the second centuron in the

career and a performance that I would say that was majestic he was

he was superar the adversities in the commising the lot

because the Aldo I I'd expect the Aldo better in the first, that guy that's a

person who no he doesn't he's never for the other, but he had to be to get to

get to get to the finalzion of the first and then it was a great-upro the low-kicks

to get we're going to comemerer the walk of the low-kicks

of Joseo and back in the times of W.C. Voltando

in the past even. Physically perfect I think he did a great

preparation that could put it, yes, in the strata the signet,

even with a certain, with a certain chance, uh, to conquest this signet. Because what the

Aldo needed, during his career, was, was of motivation, uh, I even,

I said, I said, that he didn't do he did the besteer of the besteer, to be

a lot, a, we've had to some the the other. Conor, IMAX Holloway two ways. He wanted to be able to beasant, because he had beenceded all, because he had beencilled all. And what was that for him? Motivation. I think that now he of the

part, and for he's trying to look at if we're looking to to the MMA today, he is one of the few of that generation of the old generation,

that's he never, he never, he never looked out of the top five, he never got out of the top

five of the UFC. Who can who can't do this, poorissimus lotators, or,

today, no, no, not one doesn't do this during so,

So, so, Jose Aldo, de-vote, and now, that's the signoron to him. As you said, if he

had to be in the Pesa, he'd be able to Michael, he'd had been to Volcano, he was, he was really,

he was really, he was really going to get a new chance to his centuron, it would be a lot of a lot,

he had gained to get him to many he did what he did what he'd do this category, always you

said, he'd be there, he'd be there, and he'd the cartola, and for me he was he's bettering, he looks like the performance of his time, it's always better than the point, if you think, he

streed in a category. Conto Marlon Morais, he's a good performance for me, he won't, but the jury there were to Marlon Morais. Then, then, he came, but he ended playing, but he was getting, but with a record of the brazen, in that victory protocol just for, I'm, I'm going to win a little, he was he, he made,

and he made, a, in a style, much the opposite of Zeldon in the career, He got, but gained well, then then he came the Pedro Manch with a performance much better, and now he picked a guy that was more than the other two in a moment, a very much, a guy that was a terrorizing in all the world, and he was

there, and he, passed the car, three knockdowns. In some moments in the lute, he, he, did the move of regas bar to bra so, put it by the bar, he got up, he, got by-up, without, without, because I knew that were in five rounds, yeah, I knew that piece of gas for all this. And in the fifth round, he did

another knockdown, quite no calpire, quasi-nualties, almost finalize in a mat, the old is a little an moment illuminated in a career in his career

and so, imagine now the Aldo going to the training saying, poche, look so,

after a victory this, even what he wrote on Instagram and you know, you see

that it was, finally, it was, but in a way, but in a way different,

it, I think, I think, I think, that I can't that I can't

that he when he enter in this way and we know, the preparation

mental, the force mental is something been being being being being discussed today, by the

science of sport, including in the world, this is a fundamental. Not there

can't you be able to this, not have this in consideration. So I

think he came in a moment very special and that he just grow

that, that he so for your next adversary, that we will

talk also possible the next adversary. Now, there's a thing curious, because the Aldo,

when we look to look at back back, the Alto was a champion of the penas during a much

time, hegemony, quite disputed the Cinturon of the Leves against Frank and Edgar

in that era, it was to have to abandoning the penas in a time in

the year in the year with the Brazilians, was, it was to have,

we're been said, He's beencised, he'll in the same, you're a champion of two divisions. And today he's in the size of Jose Aldo, people.

If not were the line dula of the UFC in that was to go to your third, to his third, for his third centuron.

The Aldo, many people, criticed him, paid a posentaturia in that era, but have to remember what this guy did,

and do what he is capable of he is able to do it's 35 years, even. So, I mean,

he has 35 years, he's young, he's young, we've seen the glover

Techeera, passing those 40 years, champion of the men and the people,

the age, the athletes, they can get in the ages more advanced, with a

great preparer physical. This moved, people. Not is more

the form as it was the time, but there's a planing

special, there science for this, and even that the prevention of

lesions, it's not you make sure you can't much during the training, exactly by the equipment that

you use also, along the of all the your preparation. Enfine, I think we live a

new era of sport, and more one way, I I thank much, in this

new era, we have a little dinosaur, a little dinosauring, that's going to

to be with the dent-safiades and can't mordered everyone now. This performance is a response perfect for the cutucas of the Calibbe, saying that the Aaldo

not was in his alge more, because he's got to do it, not says to be an ausge. So the guy went to go

the hop-fond, he was rankeded on the division, and puttow this type of performance. I'm anxious to see when

will be the next declaration of the Cabebe and he goes, he said the the idea, he said the

De De De, he said if it was the combat, this was for the portal of Varitud, that he encountered with the company, and he said that, no, he didn't say this, he didn't say, was, was, it was,

it was a discused-upon, no, it's a rhod of the traduasion, no, banked what he said, but I'm anxious to see the next declaration, because if, of fact, had been translated the wrong, the proper

Kabib, had been in the Twitter, I've been very time said, I don't say nothing of this, I said, I said, but no, but if passed a month, the Khabi, it was in silence, and don't say, so, let me what the guy

will, O'ald, no. It's a little thing, the Rhabib at a

very much, call out, is a poet, let's repeat the phrase of Romario

here. Look, I admire much the Rabib and Mug Mugmedov for all

he did. Today he is a side of far, is a man, he's

a very very to analyze the situations. And at times, at times he erra

obviously. The guy not perfect. And, of in some manner,

a we have to understand, many people say, oh, the A waldo is a, is a

a person human different, it's a creature different. This type of phrase,

this type of commentary, uh, at times, incendeia the city there people use this

type of provocation to grow, say, ah, for example, a car is,

a far of the lot of people, I'm notado, I'm much of nataation,

accompany much the natation, the Cesar Celo, for example. Cessar Cello, is a guy that was moved to the challenge. He had to have a... little chamas

along the preparation for he's to feel moved to the competition. So, he would be able to be to be able to do this. The luta,

not different. The lute is not different. I'm not saying that there have a lack of respect, that the provocation, it's,

it's, in some way, soundable for all. Not for all of all of all. It's not a guy that's

out of the game, who is a land also, but this could have served to be to the

fuel to Joe also, to get to even more more focused than he is,

he's, he, he, in a manner interesting, he, he looked, in the

old, he looked to be back, was a guy a little a little bit distant. The hour

that he looked at only in the time of the world, today he incar the eye on the

eye on the so, the rabbi is good he does but he can't be able to

get exempt of the error apesart of all he could be able to be talking

the guy has been saying the guy who has still, there even he did he did a

problem for the but he could return. But instead of being to be talking,

the guy there's a lot of he's a he has to respect to even more the other

he never never never pared, it's there until today this thing that's that you

know, that's people, if you continue eventually, you will end up

and this, and this, even, it was a little battle, the

although, the Alde accepted, but the Kabil, not he,

but the same, the idea, the story past, the Alde, now,

the with the Aldo-Campion of Teos-Gal? Or the other than the other than the other than the other than the other. Al-Gamestelling and the DJy D.O. So, so, more one way, the Petri-Anne would be a revenge for him. It would be a revenge for him.

I think there's a thing a good. A revenge, in the moment in that the Aldo live, could be a point of a turn to him. Caso he will be to dispute this title

against the Petriam. Today, the Aldeemsteerling is the champion. they're going to have even a revenge because, in the reality,

he's al-Diams he is a champion, but not it. He's a question, he's a, but not it,

he has a, he has a he has a centuron. We know that the Petyan is the car, for

enchant. But, but we know that this lot will happen to it will happen to determine,

of fact, who is the detentor of the title of Pettri- or if it's the M. Before,

probably will have to do make to make a the lot. And then it's expected that

it's been the day D.J. D.L. Schor, not he made he never a guy a good,

is a guy that can offer us a great a challenge very great for him, he's over

Rennambarong, to the school, the new union, in the movementation, a guy that

is a person, a guy, difficult to get back and it's a guy that's a

guy who of your suspension of two years, after the doping. He wins the last lute, obviously, against the Korsenhegner, but now he also is more focused

in not error. When a guy, he comete a error that can cost to his career, some virum a chave, and it's like you are in this way. So, look,

this next fight against U.T.J. D.L.S.O., I don't conceive to respond, if the Aldo has chance by the centur if he not pass

by the JD de Lachor, by the performance that he will have to be against the Tjee D.J. de Lachor.

But I am I can't be that the T.J. de Lachau is more difficult for him than the Peter I.

I don't see if you concorded, but it's a style of a lot very complicated, a movementation

very ruin and that can be a little a little bit the other. But I

say, it's a moment of to dovetable it's a motivation extra that he has. So I don't dovido of him

I just think it's a more difficult for the style of Jose Aldo. I concord because the Aldo,

he has a movementation of his long of the career entire that is a guy that's a shot

and is using more the hands now but the he's a guy who's moving much

the way the speciality of this movementation But, really, the case, it was a little

more dangerous for to be a lot more more dangerous to the game. The Dede has trained many people, the baron two

times, to be able to try to try, you know, he's very good good the game but not

he was not quite, he was against the Rennambarong. Or, he's not done certain,

never you know, let's see this other if the DED can make the Dede can't make the

school, the New Union against the Tid Lashor. if he passes here if he pass by the

Dillashaw I put all the all the my fishes in alldo all the my fiches whether whether

the Sturling, or the Peterian because then really you have a new possibility

you have a new a new a new cashinia of the there is

difficult it's it's very difficult to parar it it means that he

really evolved the the game of his moment, for this state of sport that we live

now, in a way in that he brought to to be at the heads. A ver. It's

true, and this fight was perfect to be able to get to the motors, and to get to

the F.C. 299 that happens in this Saturday, that the first first time in

the story will have two the different in the different, but

But, but, once to conversar with Prota about the Lottes of the Ler, we'll hear of those those who were responsible for the two in the point of the casks to the defense of the

cinturon, the interview with the J.go Lima and the Anderson, France, come just a year, after the rapid interval commercial.

The other side of the line, now we have Anderson France, trainer, one of the trainers of Amanda Nunes, helping to

the fia the other question for this lute important-it-o- the day-1-10 to the day to the end of your name,

and there's a lot, all right-of-a-old. all good, thank you, guys, we're a firm and forth at the final

of the camp and we're going to be able to I think we're going to say with more a victory. It's true, Amanda,

it's going to get a different to get a time, and it's maybe it's a last name that still

not infant her that's, in the possible various revanches that have in the front to Amanda

in the America, the name new, a name fresh, which has been, many people

with a a great expectative in on them how are you see a Julia Penh how are you know how you

have gone the growth of the office in the last year so so Julianna Pan

the athlete dora car is very very guerreer I think we're

prepared to first win the if we need to do the we need to

do the we're prepared to put her the final she's she's she's a lot

another, Valentina, put, I'm going to put, I'm not a minute, and it

happened being finalized but she has been all over there. So I think it's

a lot dora, I think Amanda know, I think Amanda, she's, she's,

she's, she's, she has, she has a, she has a, head

a heart, she, she knows, she has, she can, she can, but,

but, we have a great respect, by Julianna Penn, I think it will be a great combat there's a great combat,

and for who who's ever, it's not going to be not quite a lot of the other people every time that's like a manned the Lutta,

encara, like it's more a pras, she's going to do it, just to be a point in October because it's a

victory certain, how is you live with this, like as a matter in a environment

that everyone obviously not the team but the world of MMA has entered as a climate

So, man, imagine the the head there's a because see, sick, everyone is exactly talking about

this, but Amanda not, Amanda, I think she has that she has a good,

a head a head a little, a company, she knows that when she has got the

better the better there there so, I think what does Amanda

be a bit different is this. She, when it when it really in octagon,

she very focused, she knows that the lot will be difficult, and the we're prepared for that. A Julina Paine, she has surged, especially in the area of Grapin, there's good finalizations,

finalized her last month her last night, but the two robes that she had in the UFC were just a finalization, she was finalized by Chief Chienko, and finalized

by the general which was a, the mode of the more surprising, it, picked a strike and it was finalized. What is this What does for you

about the Julianna Penh? So, so Julia Penh, she's a great, she's a great, but she also also she's also

she doesn't also, she also, I believe, that she will want to the lute in the part of grepens,

but it's a threat that she is very guerre, she comes to the same, she chuta also,

so we have to be prepared in all the areas. She was finalized by Valentina

and by the Germanic, which are two strikes, but she also, she has financeded a lot of, if I'm not I'm going to,

she has four finalizations, I think, and she's, and she's very good, in the part of the shone,

or in the part of Jitz, so I think Amanda, she has been very, very centered, and focused

for this lot. The matter, the Amanda, independent of what happens, she, she, because she has two

cinturons there. So she has a career different of others and she's always thinking in the future because independent of a lot of a centuron in other category that will everyone have always

always a expectation of who will be the next to be a challenge and so and being this lute now in Pesu Gallow, have the Pesopeno is guarded in

house and all the world talking, everyone wants this expectation, this narrative, that P.R. Harrison

are leaving the PFL, or getting on the PFL, he doesn't know what will happen, maybe going to go to Belton, but there's a war, but there's a lot of Amanda Nunes, and you that's two, you know, you're trying very much with the rest, how is you

get in this scenario all, in these conversations and expectatives? So, car, now, that he'll help a lot of Amanda Nunes now for this camp

for the, the next a lot of Amanda, so I think the qualitative is great but I think this

I think that's that's that not going to not be neutral there I'm trying for the that never

that happens because I go out of two guys, they're they're always

always with me here too so I think I'm trying for that nothing I'm

but I'm let's see let's see let's it's I'm gonna exactly depends

it depends the cash of the money, the money, but for me that this lot not

happens. For more that is a point of a point of the one to help the other

they have their careers and their objectives so if the UFC I'll put on

the point of the lapis and pre-she can't you can't be it

exactly exactly that exactly that but I I think at the principle

no I think I think the I think the principle of Amanda she She, she's very suburnan, I

think, she'll be quite a lot of championship. And she'll have been that she'll think she'll that she'll be decided as how the next pass of her?

So, man, I still never never I never never with akeye because I'm in camp

direct with Amanda, with Peter Monoyos, now I've been to do Edison

too, I'm from the Adamasas, so I'm I'm very full of Marita

too, I didn't I never I never never with I didn't so I'm not

the proper the proper emperes of her to be the people I'm going to if not roll as a

lot, are two scenarios that the people want to or is that she's against Amanda or

it's against Chrisibog in this battle you would be a piller to roll because you don't be involved

with the two sides So if I If I had to I'd have to I'd want to be with a

Ciborg that's a a big athlete for me is one of the best of the

Brazil and the world has been a an an athlete fantastic

but I think that it would be a great a lot a lot vendable

also and I think that I would that would I would I'd could be

a chance too I I conversed with a Chris Borg in an edition recent of the podcast, and there's all this question, you know, that's the fight,

the crisis Borg, but here, she's obviously, with the judoer, you know, the Grapry, can't amassar the question.

How is the question of that today, because we, obviously, we've seen the evolution of the MMA,

but she still not infranted someone of a level of a crisis Borg, no, because she had been able

atletletters DURas within the PFL. How you would you would the trocaation of her

to confront to someone to give the degree of that Crisiborne so so it's

sure that she she says that we say a pass a pass with her in the

part in her part in her so it a so it's a match I think

much better than a Chris Borgen so I think it would be

a really strike in contra Gureper now but but

I think now that shella, she has I think that she will be more more one more one more one time even in the PSL so I think we have to

give time to time car I think this this is all the thing to happen but I think it's more a year she'll she'll be more

a year she'll maybe need this time of maturation because obviously the Chrissy Borg has a career

much long in her she came to get in MMA after after to make a MMA after to do you think that

for this type of this type of this type of this type of she needs to get a more experience no MMA

specifically I think that I'm a an athlete an athlete an athlete an athlete an athlete

that's she's she's she's she's she's tomorrow the the

future you'll go you're going to tomorrow she will you're

going to now now I'm as I'm as I think she she could

be more one on the NFL for for degrade for but I don't know how it's the part

financial, if she really she's really, she'll just will, say, she'll sign with another franchise, I don't talk with her about this. And in this event, the Lenda, you're going to put with a lot important-saintiff, that's

a lot important-sely-contra, that's Dominic Cruz. How is the preparation of this challenge? It's a guy who has a trocaption very different. The guy has a style of the game very different. I conversed in the last podcast with

in Pedro Munoz, he said how Miquin, he helped him in camp, imitating a little, the stil of movementation in-pe. How the Kiyosgouj, also, Pedyd-Moyos, also, how is it

training the Peter Munoz for a guy who has a job in-pe so unique, so. So, man, for me it was very difficult because I help the PEDA

too, we're always together, he's always together, he train with me too, and for me to imitate the game there, Dominic Cruz,

that's just finting and be moving to movementing to the dash of cano the time entire,

finting the I'm I can't more than to push or any other or any other

or another to get to one other, but when I'm going to when I'm I'm done with him

I'm done a job solid there for we can put a we have really

to take a little space of Dominic Cruz because we have to be

to maintain him more disconfortable possible. We have to put him to go to get to get to

get to get to get a kidn't he he can't make this movementation

much with Dominic Croz and I think the he's probably a fight for a cause it's

difficult to find the Cruz car there's there on K'KID but

the Peter also is a cash gross of a man a man

a a great athlete I I'm brink with Pedro Moya, I say, we'll say,

we're, we're, we're, we're all the football there's my mom, and, oh,

it's a war. The war the world of the man, it's a example, the guy,

difficult, to be, poor, on the , caught, finalized, how you

you, think, this war, you know, you think the you know,

he's that you think the man, very hard, man very , man,

put, have a man pesed, man, So I think he could surprise, but I'm a lot Dutrauder,

I think it will depend much of our distance, if we can find the distance that we're doing,

so I think what will be very essential is our distance, if we can't control our distance for this

this lute, we will gain this lot. And just just to start to finish here, the life

carried very far in, you're, you're going with a whole, you know,

with various athletes with the Lutut Marked about, I'll talk first to Tyago Marretta, that will pick

the Ancalaev a lot of a lot of a guy who's starting very strong in the category the Marretta

going to the vitories against Johnny Walker how you see this this casement of Stills

then I'm so I'm start the maretta, yeah, we're doing directly we don't

start on and the Marrita we're not two two days for a month direct.

The Marretta is a guy that makes a guy I never saw a guy bathe so a lot of a manned

so I'm a I think the car the car is the trocadour but I think the time that the time that he

will be a lot agarrava also he will talk about strikers picking guys that can fugger

from the procaation he's with a lot of he with a lot

he was afastable with the time yeah there was there was quite a year

he he not a lot He's just will be on the year the year

day 5 of March how is how you see this this is a lot of the

he's in a category to be he's he got a drop during a defeat

against the against the he said he did the he did the he did an athlete

an athlete an an attempt a the gositzen particularly he's focused he's

he's got he will find out the I think it's a lot of really strike and a grueh, it's a guy

that's he's gonna put a lot to the ch'n'clock in the part jiu-jitzen, a guy can't another,

so it's a bigot, but I think difficult, very, very difficult to get the

, for Edson, a guy, in key great, so I think the I think the

lot of the we're doing just a plan for training, Brazil now the

16th of December, and the day 1st of January, and we start the

camp in the day 2, more the day 2, the day 3 of January.

So, we're doing being much a lot of and I think the general

he has been to be done on the part of the Mokan, no.

I'm he's he's he's with a lot marked with the

Alexander Ernanzh he's, he's a guy who's Marcelo Duba, but more

recently he's he's met him he's he's a lot of a job

very distrinched no man he's really very talented I'm very I'm really I'm gonna

he's he's yeah yeah it's poor he's good

he's he's he's he's too much the part of his and he

part of his sound he's he can he can't in any he can't

he can't Marlon Morais is a guy that is very very close to you, there's a story of

to work during a time and it's not going to have been a problem with a bit of a lot,

but he's been to three derogas in the category Pesugalo what you have what you expect of him for 2022

in this moment is delicate to give the vote to give the office? Yeah, the Marlin

he's been to bad at He had a He had a He had a He was a He was a

last round of the last Luta, car, on the hand on his legar So,

now he he's he's not he's he's with a hand massacred he's with

the hand with the with the armachad even so I'm I'm doing

time to time for him for we can't talk I'm now this

final of the year for he could be recuperer the guy, the lesion, and we'll

go back to talk about to talk about about the next time, about the next few times that we're

going to do. The marlon a threat, that he is, he's hard in all the eyes, we see the

Marlon in the academy, the guy that's the most train in the other way, we have to

frayalal a little, say, Marlin, no, he doesn't train to train so,

he doesn't, he can train, he gets to tryna, at every he says, nine, 10 hours,

the time, the time, this, walk, train us, train it and then a man,

I, he had to point out someone, so a dedicated, like, like,

like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I think, I think, the most important

now, we, we, we, we do the right for he, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, he, he, he, he,

he, he, Coe de San Higa, too, that's a man who's a lot difficult, yeah, and I don't

could be with with him present there, and now the most important is to do, he's got with a good,

and we're going to be to the next one. Just for we'll say to thank to your

time, I know, I think, you're gonna you say, you said, you said, you know,

the man, too, the one of the top three there, the guys who, the guys who can't

try me, who may I didn't know of you who is the best-lottom disconnosed of the America Top Team because we know

the America Top Team has a lot of name, very pica in all the categories, but who is the

guy that nobody know that who not dispontor but that is the guy that is the future

champion of the America Top Team the line is Disney and the Lutton yeah we

look for all the whole all the other Amanda Dush-Courri we just see

the more Vidal we I can just see I think it's gross but there's there's much there's also

there's also I don't know, he's to get to get to know what to know, I think he's

not quite not quite not quite I think it's I think I'm a great the name

Russian is all obvious on the final just to just to finish the last question the next

interviewer of podcast here is the Diego Limah the trainer of Charles of Bronx

you said you said how you you see this a lot. Before I did I

talk about to talk about him. I'm a great friend of my friend, I'm a

great friend for him for him for him and he's a lot in the UFC when

Edson lot or Charles also he's a guy that I always I always I'm

when I don't when not when not will be when he going to go to 50-50

car the Charles is very pretty is a part in the He said he

He's bettered very He's very He's really He's really He's really The part of the He's the part of the

He's the For me is the best He's today, today, today, today in a

M.M.A. for Jiuidz was he He, he is a guy that I have a great respect

for him, but the guy, I'm a guy, I'm a guy, I put a

foot, you can't push to me. And then, car, I'm, I'm just, three

a week pushing for him to be able to get a car, the guy batte very

very bad bad it's not the normal so but I think it will be

a lot dulae I think great chance for for two

for Charles if I would if I would be 50 50 to be

many thank thank you thank thank you thank so good

this next next next list of this last

thank a for you for you guys a other side the line we have

Diego Lehm, a principal trainer of Charles of Bronks, championing Pesolive

the UFC preparing afiando the arms to infighting the Sado on FC 2009 in

Las Vegas how are all the good time my friend it's a part of the podcast

it's poor things are more impossible, Charles is is more than a final year

will do a great show that's this is a lot that's a The world could have been a lot of

time, there's a campaign, a pillo for that she had happened in January of this

year, but it's the year to get a great, to get a money, to get the

money, guarantee the the future of the family, and then you know, the title actually she

is happening, how is how you see the Desiporia as an person, but you know,

I think that all the adversaries all, the, all the the lotators there are

very very d'a 70 kilos if not one of the more of the more than the more

that the Khabib has had been dominated a moment there, I think, even more

with the idea of the thing, afuriloh a furlough a frulele a lot of so I think

one that's you can say, put this is more fast, no one is more

difficult, one is more difficult than the one is more difficult is very very good I believe that as

all those the lotators have their points their points and the ones where we're going to explore,

clearly. And I think he did the option of him, he chose to be able to get to get to

the side the side of the part of the part of a guy who does a audience, a guy who

v-per-view so imagine he did two he did two luts that with

McGregor so I so actually financially he he could I think I he'd

I think I in relation in a one in a lot in a lot, for example.

but I have certain that this lot will very payper-view also because it's a peper-view to be a lot a child is a

car that is a recordist not just of finalizations but he also has a record of a more lot of

a lot of victories for vials rapids rapids he's there's a lot of

a record bonus a night so it really really a really a a collector of a collector

a lot of an officer so it's it's a will be a a guy car car

a guy dark is a good this really could have happened

there's a last time in the last the last the last the last he's not dismerce the

chandle and he could be there's a little bit a firezina but he's a man

a good, he's a man he's probably yeah more an obstacle it's more

a more a more a grader of the caris that he will go

he's better that this lot that this lot happens that Because the Porya, he is the man

than Michael Chandler, so imagine now that Charles as a champion, he gain a percentual of P.P.P.V. So, one of the other than you is he will get more more money, too. With certainty, with

I think everything so, I think, all, we wanted to Puri, Puri, Puri, Puri, Puree, Puree, but it's exactly what you said. I think, the moment was perfect. This lute now,

against Puri, is the first defense the centurion of the Chalys, is perfect. I think that, it's been a appeal much major, I think

with a moment certain, even thinking in pay-per-view. So, the card also, in my opinion, is,

po, it's sensational. It's very better, even, that is the other that he looked in, I'm

both, both, both, both, so I'm both, so, so,

so, central. With what the Porier is differ in what areas he's different,

in the areas of the last the other people are that you know, but everyone is hard, but each one is

a different, what the what the what I'm going to be this last the last few the Chalels

maybe not not were so both in this area specific? In fact, I don't don't think I'm

I'm talking much to Chalels, we never go to a strategy one of a strategy

against a You don't you go to you know, I'm going to to keep, I'm going to keep the guy in pet, I'm

going to try to get to get to get to get to get a now. Today, the MMA with the

evolution that's you have to be good in the trocan you have been in the person,

and have to be a manned to that you know to get a guy that defends the juts puro,

the Maitai PURU or Ressler today, today, today, you know, the mix or martial

awards, the mixture of the mixture of the So, so, the idea is what the Charles presented in

all the lot of the so we're going to be with the point of we're going to get in the we're going to

talk about the we're going to get to the other people, now how will be going to get around the little to

the fight. So Charles is a guy that he's going to get up, to get up, to get to not going

with a card of the manga, he's going with the battle entire entire, like we

we did in the other the last Lutas. So, we've tried to be all the time

what the Kevin Lee could be able to do that's so that's the most complete possible and we're

we're going to we're doing that we're a lot of the with the chandler same thing for more

that we've passed for a first round there's difficult was what we're what practically

we talked, we're not remember exactly but it was we're we're we

everything everything we knew everything was that We know that he had a man pesed he was a

he had a power of finalization. He tried finalize he came to the guillotina. A we knew

a grand in ball and he had a chance to show this. So we passed for

everything that we had that he had been that you know, he passed for all

that's exactly what happened to go to the interval. Now, it's not the arms,

to show, what we have to what we're to be the whole, and we

did a a mapia is a a guy complete. The Puri is a a guy who has a good, has a good, has a man,

we know that the Puri is a guy complete. But, we see the things that I think he that the Puri is more dangerous.

It's a cariote, he gets very very well of the man, have a mom pesada, absorb very very well,

those gulfs. So in on this, we start to try to mapia what he has been more of the

more of the more of the charge to make sure to any area, whatever situation. So, interesting, what you

said, the question was, that's just a suffolko in the first round, but a, one, a great idea, the narrative

that exists, especially that's, that's everyone question the question the of the Michael Chender

, saying all the whole time, and Justin Gates Fala, many people say, no,

because the Charles if you're basically, basically, he's basically, basically, it's the guy who,

it's passed for a thing much, it's a problem in the DFC,

there's a lot of the United but it's like the problem it's the new Charles,

it's, how you think that this is a narrative, this debate, all the time,

someone questioning the questioning, the Charles, he's a man, he's a

mother's in the fact that he had been in Vos, he was a man in the little of the

lions, So, in the fact, is a man matured there's a little bit of the first,

the third, a fourth, to the first, the first, the first time that he got over going to

the reverse. I think we're going to use it as a evolution, has been to be observed, the experience

that he had to be there to he's got to that he that's not a question, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not,

not, so, so, so, so, seeing, the things he,

he's to be in car. He literally he literally a porrada because our trainers are

those are wars and our battles. So, it's he can, he's

and he can't, he's a guy, the beast is with a man, is with the

spirit indomable, is blinded, you know, and I think the people who see,

who understands the lot, observe this. Because not that he looked with a pangarer, no,

first, the first, when the first, there's there's the world,

independent of the other events are what they're the best event of the world. And there are the best are the opinion of the

opinion of those people who really are the people who are the first thing so that's a pure reality. So, so,

so, you have to be very sinister. And the Chalde's being a sequence of victory,

sinister. And the last, nothing more, nothing more, nothing more, nothing more, nothing,

the last, the last four there, Kevin Lee, Ferguson and Chandler, you understand, and, say, La, Tabor,

which is the cynos of the trocation. So you see the last the last one of the car, he took a car, Dura, look, Fergson, I want the Bisch to Papone, look what he did he did for nothing.

So, I think, no, I think to question the heart of him. And I think that, the looters who say this, don't fall even thinking in this, of reality.

They're more to use this as a strategy. We'll attack, we'll try, we'll provoke, we'll try the Charles of C.

I think this is more a strategy for part of the Gate, in the time for part of the Chandler, than properly

what they think? What do you think is what you need to to happen to move to, you think to gain of a

popular so respected in the United as the U.S. as R. will end these these doubts

that are still stills in the case? Sincerallyally I think not because in the fact that

I think Trostalko is very great. So you see, the Porier, the poor, the Porye, when Charles, he went to talk with Chandler, he said that was an absurd, he's not going to, and he said,

he was more than a merecid, the guy had to be in the centurion, was the place of the car. The Feggson, in a collective of imprensa, he said a lot of Darius,

he said, a lot of the child, no, Charles, no, Charles is the only the guy here in this that has my respect. So,

so I feel this, understand. The Kevin Lee, said, the same thing. The proper, the how's how

the last the last the last he's that's that's the last the last

the commentarist today? The Pope Felder, you know interview? No, you know,

he's other Charles he said he's not the Charles that I've played that way.

So he said he said he said he said he said he said today

it's the same thing So, you know, and then, the same guy who's just the poor,

the Charles is foda. And then when he wants to cover a lot, he's like the same the gate, he's like he

loggioed, and then he started to try to cover a lot, he started a lot of beseera to caravar a lot,

and then you saw a bad he said, and he'll go back back to come back to cover to know,

then you know, so, they're trying to cavs this lute, it's like like in the football

there, they're coming in the area to be the jury mark the penalty. In fact, and you said, that the Charles

not enter in a lot of a lot of course I'm a localtiary, I go to knockoutier and that we've already showed clearly that he's done, that's a trocation today, and the

high-level and the jujist we don't even say, but when you get a head a in a traveseer and imagine a lot on the next

Saturday, what the scenario that's repeat, there's, there some scenario that you see, put, this here, this is,

the new, the charles is getting this your son, this is the the other one's a couple, it's very difficult to respond to this. Because it's like, I never go to Chalice, for example. I'll say, Chalels, this a lot, we have to leave to the

floor, he has to pick, it, that, that's it, that, that, that, because we know that on the other side, there's a guy, that, in my opinion, I'm with very me too mead of Chalice. You know, so, you know, in my opinion, on the other side, the Poree, really, he really, he really, he doesn't get to leave the Lutteau. So, so for people who see the Lutte,

the Lueh, will say, it's better for you to maintain this lute in-pe so what happens I don't know exactly how I don't know imagine the end of

this fight in relation as soon how the charles will be so so pronto in so pronto in the I just swooned with the two things

I just sawed I done a peddra and the poria ammorescing there and the Charlie's terminating the service there in a ground

in palt with a sequence of soco, there's the juice to enter in the middle

and the middle of the time in the time, the jury's in the time, and I imagine also the

Charles is adjusting and justing a position there justic for it to get roach, red,

amarele and batter. So, sincerely I just imagined the two things, because I

know that the Charles has capacity to sobara for the two things. This is

the reality. One that will happen is to the man of the judges.

The Charlie has gained of many the other but this victory will be be the first of will be the

career of his carrier? I believe sincerely that with certainly but not dismercing

the other other adversaries I think always the last the next the most

difficult it's the more more important. Because when we we were when we

were the first ranking because we took the Ferguson was the more important

because we We know that we'd know that we'd get the when we'd be it was the first important. Because it was a lot of realization of the sony. It was the last important, because it's a primary defense of the

the chef-on. So you have to pass up to this chef-on, to pass to phase and continue. So, in fact, all the lute is the chef-on. So, there, it will be the hour there that the Charles needs to get a porrada and

go to the next phase, that will be the next defense of the centuron. And we saw how was a reception for Charles here in Brazil, after he gave him very emotional for you who accompanied the career of Charles, you know, see the carrioling of a commo of bombero, being

being the people, and we know that the Brazilian adore a champion, right? When he's fan of the

guy, but when he gets a a patagon different and gain a status different. You're a dream of a

defense of the Charles of Brazil when the frontears when the frontearies, I always always defended

that the UFC had to embarked a little more in the honor of the chance he had been

to throw the centuron when he came to David Dey Monis of the main event

was the Maninvent was Main event, had been to have been the Chalice, because a guy new, a guy that's getting up up to get a lot

of the chalds as a future, yeah. With certainty. And then, and then finally did a main event with him,

unfortunately, there was a pandemic that not had a public, and then then then the other Brazil, is a portasicated

this, this, this, the last thing in the world, like, you know,

with this, happening this, who knows, the year, the Chels defending the cuntoron in the

the world, the public with the dinazes, yeah, I'm sure. It was sensational the reception,

like you said there. That's the carmonde Mowbrose, was the same carmial that was the

same caroling, it was an emotional, man, for me, I'm, I'm a lot

that he really defended this in Brazil, because I think, the Charles not a

promise, he's a reality. As a we've been a loter who enters a UFC

with a two the lot's and I'll the car on top, on pedestal,

it's the the guy who will do, it's a guy who will be able to know, and as a

otheres they're to know, and then that's the who's just a real idea. So,

so I'm a guy, that's, that's, that's the question I said a one of

everyone started to know, in my opinion, he is the Aritoncena there

the Lut because, because he was he was so key, he was the guy and he was the

car, Charles is the car. I can't I can't he's a different. He's

the equal, equal, equal, the equal, the total, the humility,

the fidelity, the respect, you know, the chalels, he has a respect,

he has a great, he's, for all over all over he conversed, he brings, he brings,

he's, he grew, in a favel, he, not say, in the favel, because, you know,

because, there is a life there, there are the , So Charles is a

really sensational. He is a a very idol of Brazilian. So, as well, it's even really, I see, at all of the

press, trying to transform people of one to one, two, but they're having a reality, they've just

have an idol, and many times don't know they know about it. This is a thing that me shatea.

Because at a lot of really, and so, and so, and unfortunately, grand part, not all,

the great part of the population Brazilian, don't go after the athlete, not they're I like I'm a fault of respect

that's co, did a child, after the after the after he did he

did the truerreting and then there's like, and I'm saying, he's aropel

that's a fault of respect because are people who in the penultima I'm saying I'm saying it's a

champion, you know so I don't I don't see because the necessity of human to try

to try maldade that this is it's Trist, you And I think And also it's

too Trist, at times, it's a great part, not I'm going generalize but of the press, try to

try to transform Idros that came out of that's that you know, you know? And then a guy,

there's a joya there in, like the case of Charles, which is a recordist

of a bonus, is a a man new, again. You imagine that's to be to

get the record of his record of his finalization of him, you imagine if

a day will be I don't because he is very new and he he's over

he's got over he's so you know so it's a guy that he conquist that's been very difficult

to get someone to get very difficult to get him quite difficult someone is a guy who today is the entire the actual

Instagram for example the people people say that has been more to more than more of 3,000 300,000 so you can

get the athletes of the It's one of the most the other day I was looking I said I'm sure

I'm going to I'm like this more than this is there more than why not valorize who's the reality you know

so it's a thing that's and maybe it's a sometimes it's atrapal as times for we don't have a

dispute of the centuron here I think maybe this I think maybe this might really

because we're we're who more who are people who are people who're

putting and not so the people but the people but the impreenza, also.

So, I think, car, to be a realization absurd. The Chalice could be

defending the centuron in Brazil, much more in San Paulo, for the land of his country,

because in San Paulo, with a favela would be able in mass, you know, like,

with a capital of Gora, yeah, subia, the serral, there were going to

get, five, 10, 20, onibus, the last that they who fought,

who subbed to the pesage, to the pesage, lot to the pesage.

So, it would be a wonderful. I think would be really a dream.

Gainal the centurion the life of Charles, but how moved the life of

the shootbox of Léholema? Carym. It's, so, much, because, it's

like, today, our our team, she, they have, 80% athletes are

of the north and the south, so they They were back after a dream

they were to come back and confiated in me. They confiated in my work, they're literally

the life in my hands. So, so they're not so they're not men, they're not

men, so they're not going to go to be in a lot, Lema, what I did my life?

You know, and the whole, and the responsibility. You know, so, so, so,

so, so, so, being the champion, being the the champion, I think, it served

to give to all all there, for that all say, porr, I'm in the right

I'm in the work the right. I've got to be in the place right. For me,

it's a satisfaction absurd. I have a satisfaction professionals that are indescriptive because,

for example, the Certanejo is my first student. With 14 years of age, he came

with me, he came the professional, entered in FEC, until today today still today,

and he was Padrilla of his husband of his and a father of father of his father of his he's a

manned to be a story this one of Tomyas started with me there's 14 years, 15 years

those two said polly he put the they're the God of them both both also also also in 2016

we'd yeah was a much friend of direct in 2016 poor he he'd

he'd be assume my career was head coach so then batem we're

so today today champion of FC so so

so so They know this. I do my better. I know I know I'm the

good trainer of Maitai of the world. But I know I'm the better than Maitai to because I

do my own my best. I do my own I do. I do it. I do this. So, you know,

so, they're saying, he's so, man, so, man, so,

man, so, it's a real reason, it's a marvellous, it's a as a trainer and moved the

life of all us there the team because I think all they've learned to believe to think that

the other can't make great when he has been good, he doesn't get a not even a

year and a year that much people want to champ champs and too and the shalice

during a time back in the tegner to go to make to make me a man,

don't know forget this poor he's the poor, it's not it's and does career

and stuff. How do you it's for you? You think it's possible the case he decided to

go to make a year of the time to or who's maybe to get to get to

more mass to get the Chalice in other division or it's not it's a case

for him seriously with the certainly would be able to be it in the two categories

above and the chaliz is a guy that he pays in off 80 and 80 kilos,

but at but as a when he's training the direct he's going to 80, he's he's like 80 and

80 and 2 when he starts to end up to diet he's he's not having

no physical no way you can't see that he's those last last 10

his last his last he didn't use the libid of the liberal

he not because he went and he said he said he said he said he said, I'm, I bathe.

All the other than he, I've been to dream with the batheed. There was a lot if I'm mean, I'm can't, it's quite

the time, I think, he batted the two days before. So, so, with a

time, with a time, he batte and six and very, very, very, very,

very, and recuperate. 70, he bat, grace, to God, without a no,

none, none, none, no, no, no, for it is that

he's Lutando every more more more and in the 77 he also

he's also really lot of really really is a guy that's a question

not that's we're going to get a let's go do it's not the focus is 70 kilos

is the Porier is the defense this is the this is the

fight on no midamai and have no no so for

just to let's make today today now modern celebrity

in boxing sold them in MMA, but the Bruno KLB did this, before this is a lot of MMA, right?

Before this CERCUL, did two two of the MMA and gained almost 10 years ago, how those

those luts that he did in MMA helped the academy and helped you to get a more of this ball that we

live in MMA. Car, the bruno is, I'm a man person to say, my friend in the VACA,

the Tio Franco, the Tia Rihanna, the Tia Rihanna, the Bruno, Leandro, Kiko, like, I have a

respect very great for all. And the Bruno when, boy, he'd have a lot

time, he's a box very dark, like the Leando, Paul, Leandro,

he's a box sinister, the kicko, a façap of tecondot, so he always were a manse of

a lot. And then the Bruno, and the Bruno, and the Bruno, he was more he was

a spice, was a pod with Certane with Tomminus, with all- all-mund, and he

resolved I was going to But he when he resolved he was going to he resolved to look to, you know,

with the idea of today, for example, ah, I'm going to be a singer famous, we're going to

get a spoil, we'll valorize, we'll valorize the academy, the idea not was that. He would have the

tesson of the tesson to learn, to say in the hand, to know if the training he really

really were, you know, both sufficient for he could be able to the octagon,

he wanted I just Sintia emotion. This is the reality. So, he went to wince

the first the second he knocked in a manner devastating to today, I'm going to go to

try now, but he's he's a little pregisosan not not going to train but

but it was very good for the academy with because he was getting

people people that maybe not he'd he came he got

attracting patrocers that not not us saw so he Bruno really opened

many the doors. The idea not was this. When he went to, not was the promotion and

had a satisfaction personal of him. You know, and where all we have been living this

song and so that's like, for me and for the academy was really good. Really,

it really, it was more more known, in places we're not we're not we're not

we're not we're not we're and I think also through the people there and we

we're also to get a little that we preconseito that the people have against the

combat, against the sports of combat against, especially the MMA. He would have a success

in the M.A. I mean, the life if he would if he could be able to get the MMA adjante,

you think he would have a good career in the sport? With certain, with a character is a

man really really, he was a training there, he trained really, he trained in atoe,

he lute he lute two times he, So, so, so, so, the Bruno did Sparring very with the

guy, he did the Ressie, did the Maitai, he'd in all the training, so, so, really,

if he would have seen the career, with certainty, he'd be very long, I'm sure, that's a

manorada, Paul, Diego, I'd thank you, thank you, I'd thank you

the career of a semester of the time, man, and I'm, and rebeats in the R.B.E.m.

It's a pleasure to talk with you. It's a pleasure I hope. I hope the whole lot of our bachapo. And we'll keep we'll contact with us

always always back back. To get us to start with Proto, I'm going to your level of impolk against the Champs of Bronx against Densporier valending the centuron

of the Peseslobbs. Look, my level of impugation is maximum. After, after because after I've heard the interview

that he gave to our podcast ofcom thecom, the world of the a interview very frank of his, it's a guy who's a manned way to be a nature of a lot of 20. He's a guy that's a guy that's a

the way how he looks to the camera, he vends the lute the lute he's not

to say a word of the he's not really absolutely nothing. The model Charles

the Bronx is a model perfect for the UFC now. Now, talking in

performance, what he has been doing, the guy has the most sequence of

victories, are nine victories. So, now, the Charles

the Bromx is, de fact the car to be bat. Apesh

the media international still not do much credit to him the way he may be

to prove this lot after the end up put a tigolino in the top of tijolin

to show that he is the fact the guy of this division

the the centuron will be now being being

being a and I think the Charles will get

the Charles has a a vantage physical in relation to Dustin Poyer. He is more

rapid than the Dustin Porry and he can finalize the Dustin Poyer also. If the Dustin Poyer want to play with him in a luna lute aghattahed,

if he wants to put him to remember that the Chalves is the most finalizer of all the time of the UFC. So, in He was in

he evolved extremely well not just it's a finalizer but it's a guy who came knockoutiating

also other other adversaries in the other other than because he

does this camp with the Diego Lima so it is a it's a

force to a a a force the moitai extremely affi

so I think he have all the arms today to win

the Dushing Poy and that have have to be extremely respected.

After what he did with he did with Conno McGregor, I think he's a guy that's in the

radar, but I see the Charles in all the areas, area mental, area of the game

and level atletic in front of Dustimporia. It's interesting, that is the media

international, that I do I work for a website American, but the vision

that the guys have the Chalels, I think very that's a majority, not not

not all the people, but there's a lot of the chalels like he had been to be a

caro in the caro of his stonoron. Because we've we've seen champions that

not should be able to be able to Mr. Stelelian, got a jolm, he took ajolead

legal and the guy was castified. Excellent, the contrar, but the conquists of the centuron of his

Gemend and Randami, got a citron, Pesopena, contra contra Role-Hombe in a bizarre, where she not left put a punition for golfs

after the round to have been in a category that was, the Crisborg, was the champion and the year, and

she didn't try to find her herrack Chrisiborg, it, it, to use the Portuguese,

clear, and she, she, she, she, not, the Nico Montan, that was the

championed of Tufi, she turned a champion Pesumoska. After various problems of balance not even

he went to not entrented not in front the Valentina Tyevichenko so people people who are in

not a car in the story like ex campions of DFC but that don't have that all the

Charles as you said he got a million of different to get the champion

is the don't know the general no Chautio Michael Chendria but many people

look for it even like he yeah Charles is there and look to Dats

Purier like if was the champion without this this is a lot, she'll represent to Charles,

for he finally have the respect that he merits, this, this parcel of the public, that he not encara him as a real leader, but you think

the Porya, the casement of Chilus, is the lute most the last d'Hars, or you think he confronted to someone, that in front of someone,

that was the case of Chilus, was a part. I, I believe that the Tony Ferguson, as we all we were to the fight

more his the other the adversary more the but the

so he is a little he came in the times he was he was going to when Charles

got to that's that's I'm taking the merit I'm not because the Charles

is exactly what you said he said he passed the car he he not

he didn't do he could he could do that he but he not he don't he

don't he don't he Farkson can be that that he will be the

Tony Ferguson even he's a little a little he's a little a little bit

he's got a lot of a lot of it's a last during after the Tony Ferguson for him

I think this this question that the media international has with the

Charles of Bronx I think she comes even of the category

pesup pen the same the the the Charles

suffered in that moment, for example, he was there him back to Max Hollowe, for Anthony Perez,

for Rickard about the strange of the hollow that's a little bit of the end of the war, the first of

the world, it, was a thing, but it was finalized two years in sequence, both by Lammes

as and for the Lammes so, so, so are great names.

If you go, if you were Who who Charles vanceau really of grandiose in the division of the Leves?

Tony Ferguson. The Michael Chandler he came sitting in the door, but he, he not not was able

to prove even there in up the Michael Chandler he was he was a champion of the

FC. So I think that now, picking the Dushing Poyer, it could

be really that message, like the American follow a statement, is to put there in the car of the world

that he is capable but it's a a lot of difficult. I'll say, inveigatura, the advantage physical of Charles, it can be a

point important for him to work to work to work to do that it's difficult to put the Dushimporia

to be back wrestling is fiated also, the guy has a a defense of quay

very special but but we don't know how a lot will be going to be disenroll

I put the my fissues on the Chars of the Broncos and see this this lot, see this this lot

terminating before the I don't have been but if I put up to this is a little

last you know this and I think the two go to go to war to the

going to go to say, want to say, want to let's know, we'll

let's this thing now. The Dush-Moy has this maloquice too

and the Charses also this Malis this Mucis this

This interview that I heard of Charles, I thought he so centered, Gu. I thought he too, in the reality, very different of many the looters, that are seduced by my precious,

the my centurion, the new anel. He, he continues training here in Brazil, continue with this mentality of his humanity of his. A guy who still has the feet on the ground, and

And I think this is a point so important, so important, to not be decolar this reality of his, of his way,

he came to the favela, like he has the charles even more more strong for this lot and to

and to see as a champion. Let me. Let's see. That all all right. Five rounds

in, the lute principal, look, it, it's a, it's, it,

to, let's say, to, let's say, to, of Brazil defending this title, my and our

it's a piece too, it's a piece too, a piece more for a person that we both, we've got this piece, than for the Charles

I believe. But, I'm very anxious to see, very anxious. You're not have been ball of crystal,

but I'll you force to do a propit. How the Charles can't? You've said he's said

he's going to be the point. Knockout. The Charles will knockoutia the Dustypore.

Very good. It would be a marvelous, really. Especially after the Desperia gained in the form of Garner, the corner that everyone is out, the trocaation, he'd gain two times of him.

He'd go, the Charlinio, and he'd be in-pair, would be a statement, like you said, the Americans, the critics, the detratory, don't have to enguling

the Charlene, but it's a torsida too, but I'm sure. I'm so much for the Charles, I'm also, and in the

co-evento-pincal of the UFC 2009, have Amanda Nunes, putting the signetal of the Gals, she's the donor of against the Juliana Tenna, and Amanda for me,

just is on a level like a Valentina Chavitchenko of the Piso Mosca, you will see a lot of her to see, she will gain,

and not if she will gain, for you, for you also to be in this level? Yeah, it's in this

level. Caring, look, that, for the Brazil is in this level. Infelisement,

for the the lute in si, is it's in this level, not that she's

even has been talking in, oh, we have to renewing this division, a we have

to do opportunity to new women and the and the fact, I don't see if

a Julianna Penha did a camp different to surprise Amanda, we know,

we know, that's people, Amanda surprised a Crisibed a Grisibb

domined that really nobody aposted in this. So, we never know what will,

to fact, but if a Julianna Penha did a camp extraordinary, to move the past the recent of her, the pastoral

her own, the pastoral her last two derotas. This is a practical for Amanda to be

being finalized, she was finalized by Germain andandand and who she got the last

was the the penultima, the Valentina Shevichenko, in the ultimate derbyn. So, finalized by the two, that's the curious,

that she was she was in the M.MA, as being the jiu-jitsu, as a better, the first she was being finalized, and by Germane,

which is a striker, it was a derrota surprised, she could be a guillotina of a striker, yeah?

Look, this, this for Amanda, is a prato a plate a plate of it's a thing.

It's a athlete that's a lot of many breaches. And it's

understanding how it the team, N, Parumpina, Kona Silvea it,

it's a team fantastic that can let this type of barco pass.

Amanda is with all the planing just done. Amanda,

I will repeat here the same the Amanda is motivated,

you see the form as she does her interviews, she's in the way she's talking

about her, talking about, just to be looking to the next adversary, saying that she goes to

be provoked. Amanda is in the lot, she, Amanda, she not not is

to who maintaining distance, the fact of the fact of this final of the

last time had been to have been a lot a matter that Amanda

took COVID, so so, so, so, even more the Fombe of the

leoa, we can say. So, she's a problem. This is a problem for

any other the other problem, when she lock the plan of the game, it's very

difficult. So, it's a zebrasa. If a Julianna had, it's a

lot, it's a zebraa one of all of the times. Because we are seeing a

dispute of Cinturon, we'll we'll come this final of the time on the time to see the

about the jobas'n of the combat here too. She's she's she's going to be

an athlete that in the last four luts, there's two drotas. For that diminue

a little and for this, Vig, yeah, pushing on another issue,

that also, that also does have more more want to do the other,

to say, the want to say to say to say, so, It's at the

time to you go to the Amanda in a super luta, my dear. You don't get the your centuron,

if you get the little to her in the back, you go and it's all right, it's not

time, you have re-fas this combat. It would the trilogy, Amanda got the two first,

but what is the adversary most dominant the Amanda? Valentina Shev-Tienko. So, independent of what

happened there was there is looking to the next step the leoua it's

it's a valentina chivchenko if the if the ifc wants to maintain

also the chamas a chame of this division with the next to come to get a point with

the dimitri johnson that had all the world no there was

there was this man this man is this car a lot that that's

that can in this Amanda is the most time. Indiscuitable. But she has to get to pay adversaries

duras, she has to suffer a little to also to be more what she has been doing. People,

8th, 8th defense of the title. It's a 6th on Pes-Gal. It's two in the penas.

So, look the time of this woman. She doesn't 2014, since 2015, so seven

years, there's seven years invencibility. So it really an athlete that inspires many

the men's and that can make much a lot in this division since the the UFC

make the the piecec it's in the hour to make the piece called Valentina

Shevetia with this super dama well yeah there, there's the

time that the last when Amanda Nouns entered in a lot

we had is what is what would it would be what she was when she Borges,

that I remember that I interviewed I interviewed I'm in people, non-tegradors, trainers,

Brazilians, brazil, a question simple, who they thought what would get, and how?

So, 18, they were on Amanda Nunes, de Sene, 18, they got in

a minute, but she got in the minute, but from, that's, the aura of Amanda,

the form that she gave her the because now she's going to to be a point to put a point,

to put a thing a thing a lot of it's always good to see a genie in a action

yeah but there's not the brill of you see someone being being being a disaffiated

at the same thing when the last time she did a Chinese Kevinakia she was

okay okay for a medianna but you can't get to the centuron but but

there's no there's a chrisibog who went there and demolished in less of two minutes. So, Amanda Nunes, is in this point, yeah,

he's a man, she said, she made a, she made an interview to combat, that was there, and the second day, and then,

put, contract her, we're doing, we're going to , we're going to, we're going to get a role, home,

to go, and will be get to run, D'Han Damien, to go, and be able, and going to Cicus,

because nobody can't get there, never, never, never, so, so,

there another even, the Irene Aldana, that she not enfrented.

Airena is a an athlete longilineer, also with a invangator high, but

still would have to evolve some things, she would have to give some to get a

time to Amanda. Depending the form how she would be a opportunity

to be a opportunity to Amanda Nunn much more more

for her characteristics physical. exactly for for poder to be able to a athlete

and Amanda now having to cut a piece many people can be able to but she might get in the gals very well

she has done she has been she not moved much the form of her of routine the form how she lives

she says that she she trains every day she is an athlete that it continues independent

if will have to or not, she goes to the academy every day, when she thinks the necessity to go, for example, to do a second turn, in the same day, she does the second turn.

So, it's a athlete that live the your age, and she does, for merce, start in this condition. She's not

picked these two truons and he'd be in house, sitting television, watching, series, no, she continues

traininging. Tent, that one of the words of her in relation the

apposentardoria were, I just will stop when the my train were impacted. I don't

go to a lot not for legal. Not that that's the signal that it's a

day-a-day of the routine. She's really, oh-pa, not- not-

to do you do you do the way she does. So, it's a great

term- is a, is a athlete that's very well. Amanda, she knows, she perceives,

you perceive that she looks to into the body of her, and she does the sensation to know

every part of her, how every part is recuper, how every part the part

and it, and in this point, she, she does a pass to front of many

adversaries that don't this same the Valentina Chivitin, who is so

also. Valentina Chavitchenko is another fairerissima that has this, in the science,

we know, we know, ingram sensorio motor to use a phrase beautiful, yeah. The question

is a culture, look it's a moment of the moral culture in this podcast.

Engram sensor sensor motor, which is you know the body,

the parts of your body, the part of the It's you acer the angle of your right,

exactly with the eyes with the eyes and you're to have this capacity, this all is this all is is developed.

Amanda super-favorita and it bigantesca for this lute. I think this cinturon,

I think, this cinturon this cinturon for Brazil. This palpite is the palpite is the story of this podcast.

And so for you're on the RETA final here on the podcast this talk marvellous with the F.C. 269 still have many

Brailleos, Ruebonyi, Ruebigh, Ruebundado, Andres Cerjiannard, and the Praselaide also have the Brazilian

San Diego Ponsinibu, right? What of these there's more more anxious to see on the Saturday? Ah, Pedrino.

I want very see this Lotton with this will be a a, this will be a a,

this will be a, Who, who who don't want to see the Dominic-Cruz to look?

He is a guy that a lot of a whole moment. They're still I'm,

I'm still, I'm still, but she's a lot of Josh Emit and the D'Hemitt, and the

excellent, the class is a good. The caste is a good. It's excellent, these card, are eight

athletes of squadron Brazilian. If we if we were to put the Santiago Ponziere even,

he's a lot of so, it's not no, it's not there can't be afte

this card, was made for the country, for the combatant, and I think the Petrin

will have a pedrear there, you know, Pedrin has a pedreera, it will

be a fight difficult for him. But it's a lot important, for him to be

to figure between the the best of the division, after the after the derota for Jose Alde,

that did even a friated in him, I think this is a a lot encascorated

in new, no, it's a life easy in a category Pes-O-Gal, it's impression,

you know, you're the right, and in a sequence, you know, the sequence, you know,

and if de moly, you know, Marlon there even, in the Cangot, in the

the lute, the preliminary. I also would be a lot in I also I'd like a

question of fantastic, Dominicru excellent, great-plutator, fantastic technically, but I'm also to look at also in Bruno Blindado who's

who's preo very well after after after you, he's been to make the start all the world, he's a

guy who dids much a baron in the Russia, deit a lot of in the Russia when to get on the F.C.

And the last lute finalized the Rinald-Jakare Surprending all the world. I expected that he

was to get a name, even more after he after he after he's a guy

to be to get a jury also, but we need to end this podcast I want to

answer a question for Prota about the work of the work of the we know that

he's not that's not that we're talking about we're talking of lotators that's

a story like a But for who who don't know, I've just I've got a pleasure to comment a moment of

a sport interative, I commented a belatorre, I never had commented nothing in my life in my life.

I was a experience marvellousous a challenge really, so I'm a experience proper,

how it's difficult this work of a commentarista and looking him on the side and narrating especially because

I had to talk, I never had to talk, I never talking, to say the

comments with someone talking on your point, the difficulty to do the reason, elaborate a rationale

while someone was in your point, oh, does this, entreg, so that's what I'm but my question is Prota,

how balanceia this emotion to impugar the public, but continue narrating the the lot of the lot,

not just a torsidor with a microphone there in the hand. Look, a we study much,

yeah, we, we, we know, many, the matters, the matters, the matters

of combat .com, we go after of all the media. I also I'm not going to just here in the media

Brazilian, I go to go to far to get the point of view of their own, and I think we have to get munited of

all the information to value to value, and this work has been to be made with much serious

because, because, after the we have to be impartial, apes, we're to be very

for the Brazilians, we want to we want to we want to the sport creases here in Brazil,

and we depend of this, of a way we have to have to have these guys with with the cinturon, and we're going to be able to them, I think that's a little bit of our passion, we're just as much

with them. So, the point legal of this story is to have a satisfaction and the honor to tell the stories of each one. So, there, in the moment of the time of the entry, the moment of the victory,

you're something different to something to point, that point out of that moment of the career of the loter, something that he's living, so it's very a very nice,

it's a work that it's a continual, it's a work in that we're always always 220 volts,

we have to be always concentrated on that what has been to be because if I don't assist one,

the UFC, for example, I just per I pick the midaida of what happened it, it's a detailz'

that I can use in the next transmission. So it I'm like, car, I'm notice to do this, I'm going to

say this, I'm many times in my life, and me encountering in the microphone. It's a satisfaction very great for me, very great, really. Mania, man,

it's good, and it's good enough, and it's good enough, to this talk to this talk to you, I'd receive here here in a podcast, I'd like to thank you

to tell us to people where they could you can't find out of your social, and learn the your podcast, the scientist of the sports, Do you know, your version,

your Jabah? Posh, that's great. So, then, then I'll pay a say, okay? I've got this,

I'm going to this, I've got this. Well, I'm have a podcast too, yeah, Guilla, yeah,

Guillaude about the group, called the science of sport, where I talk to about the

science of sport, for this, I've brought me many cases there too about the MMA, I've said

about about the weight of the athlete, in that I gave the Tago Marretta to talk

the surgery that he did, that he did on the two joelios, you know, a look- an interview

a little great thing, I did with a little and I'm so, I'm in the world

of the other the loter in the case of it. So, it's a

podcast where I abhor do all the things the world sportive

and to be there, to come to come to my blog too,

yeah, the Ge.globo bar the Scientist of Sport and

we always we to to get a ball to get a ball there. Manier,

man, thank you very much for your company here. It was a pleasure, of the company also of the podcast of

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