MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles do Bronx exclusivo: Makhachev no Brasil, recordes quebrados, e mais

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Trocação Franca no ar em ritmo de “charlinismo”: embalado após nocautear Beneil Dariush no UFC 289, Charles do Bronx fala sobre enfrentar Islam Makhachev novamente, faz campanha para trazer a luta para São Paulo em novembro, comemora mais recordes quebrados no UFC, a fama ao redor do mundo, e muito mais. O programa recebe também o trio da PFL Larissa Pacheco, Renan Problema e Matheus Buffa, além do treinador de jiu-jitsu Daniel Wanderley, ex-técnico de Sérgio Pettis que agora afiou o chão do rival Patrício Pitbull para o Bellator. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Charles Oliveira is back on Trocação Franca after knocking out Beneil Dariush at UFC 289 to chat about rematching Islam Makhachev next, campaign for a fight in São Paulo in November, celebrate more records broken in the UFC, his popularity around the world, and a lot more. The episode also features PFL fighters Larissa Pacheco, Renan Ferreira, and Matheus Scheffel, plus jiu-jitsu coach Daniel Wanderley, Sergio Pettis’ former trainer who coached his upcoming opponent Patricio Pitbull for their Bellator title bout on Friday. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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American on M.M. Fahre in this week, on the third-feer, in a company special of Charges of Brons, and disembarked

in the Guarouja and he's about a bit of a lot of a lot of the BNor-Aruh U.C. 289 in Canada.

So, we don't get time, let me get over this part of this part of Now we have charged in the Bronx

that's the last Saturday, and this last week no-cautio Ben and Dariushi who brought the way of the way of the

way of course the first way you said you're just used to be in what came in the first round God, God is wonderful

him, that we can't do you know that we think the world and the world happens, I believe

that I'm talking, I was talking, that he was talking about what he was doing to you really

imagine that would do that would be You imagine that he would represent a difficulty that would have to get to bring, to bring some,

bring to a little bit to the other? I'm, the front of my heart of my real idea. I think, I don't need to

say this, I've made, the respect that I have been the pen I, it's a man,

really, he's a person, but I'm, I'm really in this time of that what you

go to universe, that you talk, I said, I wanted to be used, Tard, auda,

and I'm that's the, that's what I want to I said. I said many the time I don't want to

be able to be able to get to be in the game, but that I could be able to get to know, I

think it's from the beginning of the channel there, I said from the first day that I'm going to

a round, I need to a round, I need to a round, I need to a round, I need to do that to God,

to give to God, you know, you do you insisting and to keep the on the

chom on the He had various opportunities that he could go back to get him to get you get to be

you're going to keep he to make him on the show? I think no in reality he took a moment I re-in in a movement

of a movement of a man-a yeah, the guy has to be complete so he was over

he was he was in a moment better for he, and he continued for the soprenned

so I think he's I think that even bobo until I would be in that position, batten?

So, so he just took the moment of the time that he was to continue doing the time

that he's the time that's the thing that you can't have even a video that you

have to some video that you know, you know, of concentration or of faith talking, and saying,

and just a round, and it came, it came, it's, it's got the better than

he commending, and I think it helped to, to make a, because it

is a to go to get after the after the fight and the important to wince

but not just to you've beenceau and convinced and made a lot more and made the record

of the bonus and went to the record of finalizations and knockouts there's there's a package

complete that help impressonar no no with a context general

20 finalizations of knockout augment or gained more a bonus So it's all of a gigante

A victory A bigote That's a week I said I needed a week I needed to do a round Vencino Vecening of a man Duralissimo

doing a lot of I thought it was So, I was a lot And what was the importance for you So you know You know that you

You want to be a champion You're a guy That's a tecate Of your feats You're the records That's quebearing What the importance

to amplify this To your legado as a is a lot lot of like, I don't want just get

I'm going to I'm sure, I'm sure the person who can't, the guy who put the name of his

story, it's a thing that's still being ampling, yeah. Yeah, take my interview,

it's like on the first, I'm a man, I'm a little of the

lions, I'm in the end of the F.C. This is a 12 years, 13 years after,

when I came back, look, all the all the records that I have been I've been

doing, you know, that you go to universe, that's what you try, if you go to things good, if you go to things you know, I want to do things

things good, there's a car of the world, I'm doing this, I'm a little bit more, but I'm a little bit, a loquero, faveled, I'm trying, to be able to the same,

un-in'n't, man. So, this is the more important, so. more. And this was your first little little bit of 17 that you were coming to

this sequence monstrosa in a category and there was a big of course of this the responsibility you want to

you can't be able to but by the fact of you don't come to victory there was a thing in your case of your

question of pressure that you put up in over you man, of reality look so this

bagura of pressure never I never put down when I never came when I was

three of two or three of a Cendinin you'll go I've put in pressure. You have to have

a cede. I want to wincer, I want me to be able to be a champion of the new, I want to be

a new, I want to show, I want to show, for the people, this is there this is never exist for me. Where this

this is a lot enters in the moments most emotional of your career there? With the same

to be up to be for more 20,000 people in Vancouver, in Canada, it was

I was I was not going to be in my house. This I never will be in my life. I'm in a moment of the

entry to the night of the end of the end of the final of the so I'm never will be never be in

my head to say to be able to you get to get to be after the night and I'm going to get to the

night and I'll never forgets this that's not my life. If the car, I think it will be

being taken to be somebody in the never will be in my life. Some

who who who don't who don't who don't who didn't know I can't tell to you imagine your car everyone batting in your car

so I've seen film know what I've been living today the charles is a world today is more the charles so of Brazil, charles is world

he's all right he's all right he's all right we're all right we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're all right

we're all right we're all we're all right we're all right I'm gonna do I'm over here I'm never so I'm gonna be

proxioning for me I just have to be grata. The word of chattel of gratitude. What do you think that explains this? This success all. Yeah, of my humility. The my respect with the next.

Never did she the money, the car, the house, the fame, I say more than this. I'm a man. The guy who has a brother,

the guy who respects to all the world. Me, I'm a polemica with my name there. Me, I'm a big

with my name there. No, no. No, no, no, no.

You know, like, Charis is a man who made of the favela, the lich, of the shit, the matter, I'm not the way, I'm not that I'm

today, but I continue my a little bit to do my little bit more to do you know, I'm the same I'm the same

I'm the car da-hawr and take a carrie, to me take a car to me too, there's a car to make this

so, so this is like this are fruit of your job, you know, you know, you know,

you see, you get, you can't, you can't come a something is the time, this is the time, this is the time,

this is the hour. You know, you're doing, but I'm the same a man, I'm the same, I'm the same, I'm the same,

to all the people, so, so, so, God, God, God, God, God, God, and God,

does, he does a asser to that he's going to be going to go, he will go,

and he will go, and he's going to go back to so I'm so I'm a man, I'm going to,

my mom, and said, and it's, and it was difficult control the control the entourn,

because I imagine that with a fame, what has been appeared of the people there's been there's a

lot of the man, man, with a matter when I started to be someone in my life, this is there

was in the time of Jiuits still, one of one of the one of the day that I

would be going to be going to be able to that he would be so he he'd be

because he he's going to be the person, you I'm always I'm always people to be

people who are close to me, for my friend, to my father, you know, for the real I'm going, I'm doing,

I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm the same Charles. While he's going to talking to me

that I'm going to be going to be the same things, no day that they say, oh, it's much

more, then I'm there's, I'm I'm a , I'm here, I'm here, get me

talking there, because there there's a lot of people who there's a lot of the wholefort, they just want

to make a media, they don't want to do not do not do anything or they want to like a vampire get over, you know, these then I'm going to run out.

And where these aides of Charles you live now? It's the centurral, right? With certainty. The music of Pauline, the Pauline of the Capitol and of Daniel follow, right? Understand? Yeah, I've talked much for this

music the time entire. I want I want to go out, man. I want to go ahead. after the camped a new I'm going to I'm going to

after the after the tuesdays he got to post on Twitter elogian but

saying that there are what you what you respond to for a I I've

I'm I'll see he I'm yeah I'm sure there's there's

we're we're we're we're we're he's all over he's

all he he said I'm saying I'm saying I'm said all all certain

it's It's coming, calm. In the collective of the night,

in the collective of the press, he evoked he evoked that's that he because he

always says that he doesn't cause a night of event and but he made quite implicit that

this that will happen that you're confident that that's I think I think

that's a question that is a lot of to do that you know, with the

same I'm sure I'm I'm sure I'm to do, or think, especially the

way that was made, but in reality, as these the last eight years of my life, I've learned that I

just have to be preoccupied with a thing, not it's not to make a lot, it's simply train,

and to try to make a make a that I want to be that I want the

I want the the centurion, so let's get in cabrecese with the organization there,

to see what what is the next the next time I'll be the trainer and are ready to my next

adversary. There's a Cintrown of B.M. Feree, the Chendel and your children and the

people are there. There's much market in this lot of this lot of this lot of

a borghound me like you can eliminate not to know but can be able to can't

that the guy that gain there especially for you just for you've been seen the two

not not far the car of the guys we all we we're emperagos of the UFC.

A we just have an time to bathe and to be able to do you know, I'm the next oh, I'm sorry, it's a question,

it's not even it's not much, it's not this form of the final of the field, I think the man, the

man, I just made sure, this, but there's a signetown a turom very same, the two guys

that are d' d'clock, which will be a great lute, then, come there, Conno and Michael

Chedder also for a a lot also, they say that's 7, 7, then they say that's 70, also, I don't know. It's really good. It's really good.

It's really not really not. Yeah, in reality, I don't care of these guys. I'm just here to be happy, see, and I'm going to see all these

those those, because it's great lutas, the category, will be great, to be a new, to be able to do know, it's all the respect to the world

for the story that being doing, so it's very important to see the cone, he vending, he's very well, know, and Michael Chand-Ce,

who's a guy d'clock in a porrasseeing, but I just I just want to I'm still I'm still still I'm still

just to be to see who my next other year and in the collective you about you know about it's

you know and said that nothing that you not will ever never see that how you can't even it's gonna

again again what you what's what's we're going to the next this is

this is I just I just care I'm I'm used to use We have Eligre, the things will happen. No, no matter the place, no importance it,

it's going to happen. Now, we have to think about what we're thinking. What we're thinking of what? We can't. To get us, people who we love, to train. And then, let us make a lot more than once. And you, the cases of post,

I've just divulged, as partials for this possible lute, you know, this possible revenge for you, and you, to know, and you, de novo, and you, de know, so, you're, to be able to be a barque a banker, again, right? This is important

Yeah, of when the guys say, oh, I'm going to I'm so I'm so my man, if you see,

I'm going to combine with you now, in my next one way, I'm going to all the print that I'm to make the

people of the people who I'm going to this game at this game at this one gain at seven, one

one gets a 15, the other gain a three, everyone who everybody who everybody who

everybody who gets a money. So, so I'm azzarone, the hour, perfect.

Let me have post money who who can't believe in me, we'll do do you, let's do you.

It's the man, let's go go back, this is more important, I don't know the news to say a Zarown. Who decides?

Then the question who is, three, four the guy who do you, let's put this like this as far some

this thing, it's good, that we go and bat on the car, and then the guy, man, he was a

man, he's a lot, man, he was a lot, I'm a lot, and many people got

money and many money. So, so it's important. I gained my money, I gained my bonus.

Who was in house, sat down, on the sofa, I'm vibrating, I gained a new, you know, a little an alunno, the old man, a d'oeuvre here

in Guarroja, me called, man, I'm talking, those guys posted the $7,000 in you and you were, those guys, man, are doing money, going to get,

and get a, going to get a, get a, you know, people, all the world entire, to be being, and gaining,

and that's important. And this is Ravance, or you, or you, you, pay, you,

or you, pay, You know, you know, you enfrent to where it's, where it's, what you think you'd be the true, what would you know, man,

see just, I'm a employee the people have to, the people, the people, the person, the person who's,

the owner of Coca-Cola, say, he'll go, like, let's go and this, blah, you're going to

do you, you're going to be able to be able to you're in abogas, you're going, and I'mpe impregate, the Zufah

where the Zuffe put to put up, I'm going to I don't want, he's, he says, all, Michael Chen,

Deschipor, is you for the title, is that they will do. It's what they're the champion, I was the champion,

I was going to my title on his country, and in the community, he said he wanted to be not to go to

in November in in Brazil. Everything can be going to be? It's a could be. Ah, it's

can't be it, we can't know, the only thing the Charlie is that the only is

he came on the Guarroja the charles just needs a time to be able to

learn, let's with the Diego, with the macaco, kebra the head to see, to be the when it's going to be when you're going to be able to,

when you're going to bea, and I just go training and doing it happens. And for me, the major error in the F.C. Comete in these last years was not have put you to do a lot principal in Brazil.

They've tried, not with Kevin Lee in Brazil, but then he never public, but especially you as well, especially you

as you're a man, a phenomenon of Brazil, por, millions of and the FCL,

he not approved simply, not over not quite you're not quite in San Paul

that's they're doing the way, like the climate of Dublin with a grego with a

question, the guy, no thing there's anything to talk, Sampere in Canada and

but the the the time the character that you turned on Brazil in the

internet and it was the UFC he not have not been

the many of the most of the market that they have been these the last few years.

Yeah, I also I'd also want to happen. It's a lot of me here. It's very important. It would be very good. Come to think.

Who's going to think it's very good. I'm here to do you know what to make a call to the rest of the fans there that

that don't abandoning the charlinism in these last few months of the time of the Marchevi and then you

to present this campaign online to do this to bring to Brazil in November. Well, first I'm just thank you

first, primarily, first, for the love, the respect that you have with me. Poh, it's the

same way. I'm a very much of the whole of the carino. Grahast, God, God, God,

God, God, to get a part of the time. I'm going to go and I go and I

go back. I've got training again. For me, for you, for you, for us, for us. To come

the next a lot we can do you do this show. And God thank you God,

God, and the time. The Ritim no podcast this same, Rennonon, Rueue, Rennan,

Matthew, the trio that last week on the Feefeb, but we'll start a session Fight Week

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his exeversive the same champion Patrice Spitboo the interview the interview start after a

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trainer of jiu-gits, that this week, will have an agenda cheque, in Belator, making corner of Patrice Pitbull, Emmanuel Sanchez, and Gabriel Saegg. My friend, be a bit of podcast,

how are it being a preparation for this night agitated and important, potentially-storicality historic in MMA? Yeah, car. Here, the students are very good,

we're training a lot. I've been to Brazil. There was a invite there's special of Patricio me inviting to do

part of the camp of his knowing he's a man who I'm not for eight years and a

we're just three years after two and a half two years and a little and a thing that's

a friend of he's a he made up this convictor this convicts he made to come to come

to come to go to pass six years where I also I'm also I'm And I'm trying to fight

in the Bell at all the night, at the week, in the week, is the rest of the year, is the first of the training just still got better

even, I don't know, I'm came here in the academy at Pitibu Brothers, in Natal, and my man, the trade, very good,

recheated, all the categories, car, there's a lot people, if you're if you're so you're coming

there, the postage of the loters that are the lot of the meno I mean that, I mean that was

that was in she, was a, was a cousin, The actress Cortez, but it was a great good. But the tour of the academy was the thing that was the most called Barreux. They even did a mystery,

he actually before you've done part of the camp, especially for this relation with Cedde Pettus, how was for you to trainer, Patricio, having taken this relation during a time with Cajio Pettus? I have an admiration very great, I respect, very great, for Seger.

It's a good, a man. It's a great person, too, I've had the pleasure to do part of his career for eight years, from the 18

until the 26, a guy, a guy, who's all the things to talk about. But, but unfortunately,

we took the commons different, I, I was out of the academy where he trained there,

the academy where he trained there, the other, no, I've never any problem with him with him.

I think he's even mature, he, he's, he's, he said, he just,

he just, he just, he's, just to do a, so, in the media social. But I think he's not taking the

side of the personal, as I also I'm not not taking. But strategically, the Patricia me asked to make him

off, he entered in contact to me, 12 months in the lot of the we've got to do this happen to be

for six seminars. And it was an experience incredible, man, could trainar a guy

like he who is very good, I, I've done, I'm, I'm sure the Sunch

that's, I believe that the a lot more the life of his

way, that's a time in Israel, uh, for the lot of disputed, disputed in the

details, Patricio, continue being being a champion of the category of Leves.

And now see this a thing to him there, this thing, this parade this

there, he's, he's, he's, he's, the only the only the only

athlete in the M. He could have three titles and three categories different,

uh, he, he was champion no, no, no, subed,

I think there was a threat kind of personal with Michael Chandra, something that happened with his brother, he went out of Michael Chendez,

when he's turned a champion of the Leves. He always was the champion of the Pets of Pender, he's just he's been able,

he reconquished the suiton in some kind of doing this effect in an edict to get a he could get to get

three titles in three categories different and continue to if he conquest he again,

it's two he will be two times that he will be the double champion with two two cyptoons

with the same time. So, Patrick, is a guy that the Brazilians are a guy that's, I've been with the British, and contra Patrick, with his hand of his mind of his. And the

guys me abraçarer in a manner very, like, impressionant. The academy is incredible. There's various trainers good here. Me, made me sit in-home. Like, like, I've been, everything, all right? I've been with a heart, he'd feel like this.

So, the preparation of the guy, is going. I came to do part of the team Pete and Boo, brothers. I don't, I don't, I I brought my team for them. I, how what's what you know, migrae? Migre for the team of the guys

and I'm very happy with this experience because the guy is going, the guy is going to put up there, you know, that's a point of the cask. Today we did more a train-on-a-you-you-ta-you-to-beer, no, it's not

be a lotta-storic there, I think the Seych also will bring that ability of his ability, those acrobacias, that the juvenude of his, with that raza of his,

latina, American, but it's Brazil. You pretend to keep for the next to the next to the camp and the future

we'll see? This, this, this is a lot was specific for this camp in the end in the course in the same

years, we've developed a job and also created a great amazade, I've been a pleasure to

know, many people, many people and many of new, many satra people, there's a big,

the more revelation that's being there, the Philippine, I've got to signar with

FEC, will I think so I'm sure we're going to be able to have other opportunities and work in other camps. I think he even posted a photo. If you look at the Instagram of his, he mentioned, even in English,

that I was very important for this camp, but not for this camp, for the next camp. So I think there's a possibility of the people continue to work together, that will be very cool. Me identifi-me-entered to him. It's a guy who, poach,

he's a very ability, he's very abidoso, he has many arms, a guy who can't be practically everything, the judo, jiu-jitsu, wrestling, karate, taik and do. The guy,

a cyclope. of art marciars, car. The guy has a, a sabedoria very great, and I'm

impressed on this. After he these times, we had a relation in my

amizade, trokhan words, really good, very positive. He said me listen to like a coach,

it seems that we had been worked together together, so I'm very happy there,

I'm not even even to see, I'm trying to try the world, with these

three stinturons in three three categories different. And you think that with this this amazard's

with Patricio affect the amazes, for the most that he can't see how he's he's a

he's a guy who's he's got to he could be a kind of a traiation like a relationship

with your relationship with you exactly I don't know he's not the person because we don't a situation

a situation there's a partipation that's he said, let me see we're talking to Daniel

I love to make a market. He likes to do a market. That's a good one. So, we'll go to do it, Daniel. We'll let's go to the last hour. Some of the time of, he sawed by the minute. He took a piaidia. But he continued me

on Instagram. I'm very happy that I went to look at and I said, I'm going to be more. So I'm happy that he not is in a manner personal, but with certainly I think it's

about a little. a lot, we a lot more, it's a minute to my house the lot of my life, so I'm going to

be in a little lot of the night, the rivalry of the gym that's a family that's a very great,

especially in the my academy is very strong in the Jiu-Sport and I've been out of the time, I'm going to

go and me see it and it's a rivalry, the gym to set in the one of the other but it's

a reality, nothing that can't on the backstage, or something this type. I'm receiving, many people who are

shingingling on the internet saying that I'm a coach creont, and nobody never saw that never saw

from I'm out of sport, they have a liberty to internar with me, decided not come

for the motives personal, so he, for example, Seger, he has a new, so,

I don't know who is, but I have been certain that he's trying in a judge of someone.

And, so I'm also I'm not possible, not, for the reasons personal,

professionals, and we have to get to to get this problem. I think he will have this problem, no. I think he will be shocked, and me see there on the other side.

I'm going to be in his corner of his. He had a lot of his career of his own, the entire of his own. I was in the night, dividing the quart of hotels. I was one of the guys who always with him. At the day of the day he had, he always had. He always always had this coached after the coached even before. So, we had this

connection good, but also it just it's a way so I think that's not affect nothing

not quite I'm going to affect that was that but it's true, but it's a rivalry good in the archibankas

because there's many people people who are my own men and there's a guitomboe brother, and I'm going to

play with sport and it's that's all right and it's all this day how is Patrice Vance? You can't

make this camp with Patricio was the side of the Sedge for eight years? How is you see this Luta Gavore?

Yeah I think Luta is very difficult to preve but I can have a my

my previso here. I think the patrista will get a knock down

on him and it will be finalizing in the guillotina or a lot

because there happened with a little also that after the last of Manuel

Sancho was very very from the same the same good of a bit

with a arm on him first and then and the Seger Peres will think that we'll have a lot to the

ground. I'm impressed quite impressed on the Jiu-Git to Patrice, he is a guy that he is very abidoso, he is a judoca-brabo,

he's a juggiero and he has the differential because he knows the wrestling. So when I see him in the train, I'm like, there's a lot of you do you know a lot. So we've explored

some sides, he did a strategy good, that if he did to leave a lute to the chan, he will leave to the shone too,

he will be more than the Sege in the To the troca is a guy who is a guy He likes to point He wants to

Moveb If he's Going to Get a lot He wants to He wants to He's the most He's the

People who They're in a Coney-Nodos Hucs Rodas Pisa in Gras So he's So it's

So it's Yeah, but He said He said He said The Show is over The show is over The show

will be The show We'll have Let's do This cunturon To Brazil And I'm I'm happy that he

he invited to do this part of this story of especially, because in the first we don't have concretized

for not have the contact even, to be in the corner of his, he said a possibility to go ahead

the time, he guaranteed for me that was very comfortable to me, he wanted to be there

to do a voice to him in the moments that we're working, that he was talking

being being a getting a connection very good, and we talk to the other coaches,

we can talk with a We're a human, the Toron, and the Erek, so I think it's this is all

three trainers don't have on the corner of and we're with a connection very good. The other side of the

line now there's been Larissa Pacheco, champion of PFL, that's in a bit of a bit of

a passport to the finales of this year, Larissa, be welcome to the podcast and comment the

expectation for the for the battle for a organization in the bused of

a mission in search of the invite, more a way. And we're not in preparation we're just

in the final of the preparation now, now it's all to cut a piece, and I'm in in Belen

even. So, now we're going to just going to get to get to get to

get to get to a great combat. You know, you got in the last

Lucha that was one of the name more the most the most

the organization contracted in the the last years, but I'm going to wincing

in the decision. It's a strange for you, because we see the BFL

and building a division that, in your case now, no, the Pseh has been a

division constructed, yeah, it's a weird of a lot of high-profile like a

Julia Bud, a an athlete, like a Amberlele Lehbroke that,

that not not very very good was, that had a kind of how it's

how it's you can be to you can't You can enter in a luta, thinking that will be

easy, just because she not asperate like a Julia Bands, how is you work this mentally,

so I'm not, I'm going to look at all the other the other like, you know, I never,

like, a athlete, just because she now because she has, because she have many

the detotas or for that you, I never keep medina with, you know, with a regua,

the, I always, I always I'm, I'm, I'm, if all were very good,

very fodds really fos really fos to my psychological, I'm a I'm a championing now,

I've won't know the past, so I've got all right to get to all the so I can't

get to and think that I can't take that I'm not to take a time all, I'm more

more more to trainer to tryna to get the same thing when I

when I looked with the Kair when I with the other the meninas, but a Kaila botaned on a

patam of competitivity very much more more more more more than the story of her. So I always

try to call her all the parameters to call out of the way, for that this thing

not happen and it's difficult you find someone that's the level of Kaila even more

in this time, that's not the person, the power because it Pesu-

Pays low so, so you have been in the tournament in the tournament

as the grand favorite so have to deal not to not to not

not no, no, no, I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, when the when the lot of a Kala came,

and I think that I'm, I think, so, I'm a woman, everyone

will be me car-and- so, I'm going on the post, and I'm

starting the year, the year, because the we never project, uh,

and the PFL has in this format of competition, I can't to rest

I don't have feral when I I went to Kaila I went I went two

two or three three months of the time because I'm I'm going to go to go to

various corerries and then I just have to trainer because the competition

yeah and we know we have to maintain the no, not

can't simply oh no I'm not going to do do you don't

do you don't do you so I know I would be I'd would be

I would be And then I continue and working and keep always in this thinking of this thought,

I don't can't relaxer, I can't relaxer, thinking that now, because I

gained by a great athlete, I can't get to any one and simply just to make this

to be to be in my case, so, the person is this, the focus

is this and it that, as I'm like, everyone can be everybody

can be a great combat to the result. I'm trained, I'm prepared, and I'm trying to be champion again.

At your own, I'm going to be able to get into four victories, four, in the first round, three nocouts in a finalization, including the start of her in April. What is

the most peril that that's for you? It really the knockout? It's more the part in paris, the job of the show? Analyzing, I know the style of her, casing with the... I'm, Analyzing the style

of her, I think she's she's she's a good in the part of strike,

which is what, to fact is the base of her, but I think I

have I've even I think that the Gina, the I think is

Australian she, she also New Zealand. She's she, they've they've

trained together so, I've I've a Gina as a parameter

had a Bob also, that was when in 2019, I ended up front she-bots, that she-botsed are two too are two kick-boxes

great, so I have not medying, but I think I'm a good-joy, I'm a major I'm more experienced, not that I think my

job is more complete and the other of her more limited. So I see, I see what it's a good lot to me for me

me, normally. She has two the braces, two two-pennas, and the perigue always exists, but I'm,

I'm prepared for everything, I'm prepared for all right, and she's, she's, she's, she was in the

first round, the marina, gained in the second, and you and the Evelyn got in the decision,

so, so, so, mathematically, you're not not sure not yet in the semifinal,

because if you gain in the decision, for example, and the Evelyn and the or Lena

gain in the first round you would be in a point, you know, you take this

consideration, I'm going to get to and the decision probably not not me guarantee

100% so I want to do that to make the second round, and this

can guarantee it would I think that this is the first of the first from the

first but the category is different but it's a thing, it's

was a thing, as I said I don't have a time. I had to work more sooner,

I had to work more sooner, me regra more sooner, and this court of, in a category

a bad does it, does with that we feel a lot, I said, I said, I'm not,

I'm not, I did the performance, not did the performance that I, what I plannede

to do, but I did all that I did I did do, that I

did the shape, in the preparation that I have today. I'm prepared a lot of I've been

prepared quite, but this question of the question of the person, who is the thing we're not can't

do it in three months. We have to do this. We have to do this very so rapid so.

So it's a baller to the body. The recovery was very difficult but I could be

recuperate, I could make a good lot, I could do a lot intelligent, but

my objective the same of the same, knockoutier, finalize, to end up the last

the last rapid possible and get to be the least and then we're in the way of the time,

and the thing was, it's all the was the post-in, but it's that's worth to justify

this this lute, because after she can't be paid too, and now

now, the FFL contrator the Francine Anu is coming to be, and should

just to start on the year because it's do a lot of box and

certainly the the fight of he's got the future also, so who's a paperview I'm

I'm gonna against any of the one, you know, maybe who's maybe, maybe he's

maybe he's a movie would be a pre-per-view to be able to beck records? Oh,

with a question, yeah, with a certain, so two guys that are

many public are they are very very famous, uh, I mean has been this disparity

with the disability of the MMA feminine, for an MMA masculine. So I think it would be a great chance of the people popularize every more, normalize that women

are that women are strong, that women can be so good as many the women. So I think it would be a peer-view, we have, we, we have, we just over the expectations of the guy, the year past, thinking that the paper-view not would be all this, and we

went there and showed that, of we could do a lot of principal in a manner perfect, and we did, and did it do that she I did all I did all the I did all the we got to do it.

But it was a good thing, I see a look at all right I'm saying I don't tend much custom to see the

my own time not so when pass a time for that I can absorb it's a little my psychological for me

but I'm but I'm I'm saying, I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry but it's what's the

lot of the transitions that we did you can't see the can't see the car

to see the way we're in it's a thing, it was the way it was

it did all the certain, I think we can make more a better than more than

than it was better because we are more prepared we're we're just we're

so so I'm I'm able and I think I think I'm I'm

after after all we just don't pay them are the

people they're she was a champion, I'm I'm a champion now so, why not? No PPVille what you did

together? You got some cascalio extra there by the Vendal for who's, who can't know, no, that's,

no, that's not, that's she won't, I don't gain, no. So, it would be just to roll this

this time? Yes, but I'm a campaign. They, they're, to reveal how they

went to the P. No, also. I didn't, I don't know any of the noce. Not going to

not even, then it's not no, it's not no difference. Yeah. I'm just I'm happy with all,

so I'm just all right. The other other side of the line, we need, we'll do it on this

Saturday against a after Matthews Bufth in the business to get the playoffs

the time of the time of the year, my mom, well, be welcome to get the

time of the few days of any of that necessity, need, of a knockout rapid, a finalization rapid to get

six, five points there to advance to phase. Hello, Aie, Guy, a little bit of a lot of the

people who you comepani to be in- this, and porrainer a real, yeah, will get in the

last days there, retina final, but so, I'm conscious, very well prepared, I've been

more of time now to me adapt to me adapt to new team, to train so, I'm very confident

and very well prepared. There a great change in the PFL this year in the last several cases of doping and

and all over and it was and it was eliminated the time, you got with three points now,

even having he had been the decision in the first time I know for you, it's got a

feeling a feeling of the derot but Manteve the Sornio, you for

In the course Now, in the incites in the decasified the derrota there, but imagine

that you are with a push to get a guarantee to this castification and with a victory

Yeah, with a certain, with a certain, it was a not, it was the

last time, not, not, not I'm able to be, the paper that I had planned

and all, but we'll have more chance and we've a time more to me prepare to me trainer so I'm really

I'm super-felis how you saw how you received this news there's various athletes going to top and your

adversary with the enemy was one of the Bufu was that you will be front of now also

you're in the first but the I was the guy he was the he was the top in the total was

a tonne so the Peseses Pesado of Mio Pesado How did you, how you Feregian, how you

did you feel? When you started the press in the press, the Commission Atletic that announced all the case. Yeah, in reality,

in real, I was quite surprised by the quantity of the athletes that came up. Porre, I don't know if it was

eight or nine athletes. It were 10 in total. Forum 10 in total. So, and every every day,

you know, fuland came, you feel like the cliente came, I said, I'm saying, I'm sure,

what, what, what, what, what, what, what, So,

so, even that the commission there's in alert, and, and so, and,

you got the devised responsibilities for one, so, I think, that we have to have a

bit of a piece of, where we're we have, what we can't, what we can't, so, so,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, there's a move, a new year

for the year in terms of test, testage, that was the same, that testage of the event, or there was

something to be to you, this first event that happened in April? It happened the same way that the

other events. We were tested minutes before the lute, yeah, in the air in the airship, they were,

and did all the tests there, so, it was the same, the same pattern.

And you, and you, in the thing, you know, you can't perceive of your adversary,

or, you don't to do not idea that he was activated there. I felt a bit of

hisometria of his sort of the force of to figure the guy is a life

a life but he was a he was with a he was a he was a

different so then so after after I came I'm saying I'm

so so it's so it's got retalating the

playoff not because not not much we were classificing

and it was eliminated and came they're eliminated like the Rob Wilkinson who was the champion

of the time last in the middle of a bit of this it had to do you need to get to make

new to enter and so but it's being done the work is being done to control

this dope and so what you do you do this because really is really is

wrong but it's it's With certain that's this shows

the serietad of the event this shows the show the people that really are doing the role

so I think that the event aged all the good faith and it's there's much people

to enter to represent in the time that all the cards are all all

all right so I think I I found I think I actually much the position

that the PFL took and now now you can to the Bufa, like I said,

that's a ton of guy who came in the top in the last year, in a need to a victory to go to

the more more, because you knock out of the first, you know, you can't guarantee the

your entry the entire you know, you enter with this the way, I want to get to

get a but I'm never you know if someone can't get, more people can't

get a knockout, a finalization and you pass you pass on this contage

Yeah, with We're We train a lot to this, to get a knockout, to get a for a finalization

but, the buff is a man who's a man who a boy of Maitai and, so, good to

it's a lot much really a lot of I'm going to be able to be a perigue is a piece pesado

on the man, a man that's a man who has been a lot a pacience

there has been to be a partada more cadenciated but for the plan is

a knockout to be a finalization. And what the balance that you do you have now with all

these mudances that were in the category pesed pesed people eliminated by cause of

Doe? What do you see that disparate like a favorite also of you know,

that you will be you're going to be a great favorite to be

what you can be how the other car being back in this division that

you think that will bring more problems in the Ssim Finals? Car, so, the guy, all the world

very strong there, yeah, and so, who, who did the first, maybe,

I've been a little more of advantage, because it has been with less disgast

too, this second event, and the people, we've been, the first camp,

just had this disgast all, not, not, we can't get used,

but the interval of time, so, very, very, so, one-lutra for another.

So, with certain, who we're getting now, there's a little more of a gas extra there to be to be brigando

and to enter to the end up final, uh, we have to the other Delige, yeah, that is the

champion of the year, the first time, he went now with zero points, in theory, he's more

more fresh-in- but he's, but he don't have a point, so he can't get some advantage also, he has to

get to get to win the first, the second round, and secar the other to could advance,

not? Ah, with a lot of a lot of a lot of good for him too,

not, not, I'm going to dismere the adversary, but it's a man that the game

no-casing, so I, so, I think he will try to try to get the maximum in

the first, I've I've got with him, so, it's a very far for this

time. The other other side of there's Mattels Bufa that's this week

the next RENAN PFL in Bust the pointation to advance of phase

to playoffice in the buska of a million of dollars there. My friend good

my name this Rects about this RETT's in mind with the problem there. Poh, for me,

it's a pleasure to talk to you know I'm talking always, but a great satisfaction

to be there and, well, the problem of the division is I'm I'm, I'm,

I'm going to go to him, but, but, we're doing a year, and the preparation

is not, it was very well-feited. Every preparation that I do, it's always a new idea, it's always to super some more, my potential, I know, I, car, for you, for you, in the first phase,

he picked, the first last year in April, picked the Bruno Capelosa, and, it, but then, but then there was all that confusion there, the case of Dopping, not only so the Capelosa,

but, in total, were 10 athletes the PF, there were PFR that were perils for Dobe, moved a lot, you got got points,

important points there's important points to see in the competition, but how is you react you, car, when you started

pop-upacces these new people, it's a lot of people, it's a lot of the other person also came

in the drop and was your reaction to all this then. Poh, I'm being very sincere with

you, Cair, I'm in a 11 years of career professional And, boy, at least in the visual,

we can't see how are the, how are the, those, the, those, the, guys, and, poor, I'm going to say that I had a certainty absolute. When we, I, you know,

I, I, I, I, I, I didn't, but, like, there's a, can't be, to be the, to judge, and there's a, there, can be a commission for this, but I, I, I had quite certain that he,

that he, that he, that was, that he, he was going to do you, car. The result that we had in the first of the

first of I'm I'd try to use to all the artifice to get to get to

me and he's a respect to admiration very great for Bruno after the after the other

there were some I don't go to some I'm like for the time

but I'm like but but also if you don't see the things were going to the way that

you would happen if If, if there's Commission, if there's for everyone is all the

whole people are sure, I believe, that's going to make for the next year, I don't know, I don't know,

but the fairer was very just there with me and with all of those that were those adversaries with this

situation, you know? What did you have in relation with him this? Can't what happened

after the last time? Yeah, it's, it's It's a question of the internet, the guy, the guys of the guys were,

the guys were the guys started to say, some people started to say, to put some people, he don't got some he said, he said, he said,

and, well, I always really respected much Bruno, because, look, he, he came,

to do nothing, he came to do he came to Jahu. So, when I, when I gained the first lute of him,

he, I'd try to him with the world because I always admired him. When he gained in me, the first thing that he did was,

he was going to say on the day of the car, the day of the carouser, and I don't do a razzed to a carlety, I don't

go out of this. Probably the cold the moment there, but, but,

it's a , it's, it's, felt there a fair play, no see fair play,

but it there's a thing that I don't got some but, but, but,

but, but, but, but, but, that's a if

if one I'd have been a I'd know I'd think I'd think I'd think I'd

don't see I'm not see that I'm not no to me I'm understand I'm

I'm what what what's what you do you pass to the category

what you think you that's that's it's there's it's it's

there were many people there were there's it's a good sign that shows that

that the PFL is doing a contrary to doping you think it's a lot for the sport

like a whole so many people who was in the F. Chago Marietta

the Yotico a guy coming from the who came to doff what the what's

what's what's that this does that that this does that so that's so

so I think it was the first the first all

it is a very it's a me it's a very

but you serve you to open the eyes the FFERR is a gigante that they will take the best

decisions possible there, there's many people who people who working in the PFL but I

said, who I'm I'm going to judge that one did, each one I think everyone

I think one has a judge every I'm I'm I've I've

I've I'm I'm a great for him I respect much he

I think what he did in the career there was very great, I've been in various divisions. And, car, it's always I'm for jugar. Every one, everyone does what I think

to do. At least, it's, it's not to do. But, anyway, I think the PFFEL

will take the best decisions for the next time, or maybe for this time even, and it's

there I'm a vision, that, that too, that's, the FFFL no, it's not

a territory, and you can use what did and go in the case, and now

the game is a lot really serious, yeah, everyone who's there's, there's all the people are there

for a million dollars, yeah, so it's really really, yeah, man, but I'm a

problem, yeah, it's important, the more, the more, more, not so the victory,

because you know, you know, what the other will get in the little of the

, you know, with the head of the car, I'm the best to get the the more

to get the six, five points, and just carimbar the pass support for these finals, then, Guy, now,

now it's all all, there's just two that are with more points there, which is the gold sov,

the russ, and the Morysiguin. The rest of all the one with three, so there's a renan with

three, and the Daniel Marks with three. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a pessimistic,

but I think that now, there's a vows at the final, then it can't

I, needs necessarily in the first in the second round it's logical winning in the first second round it's much better

to pass with more guarantee without the result of the other but but first

to more nothing I need to wince the but depending to pass to playoff

or not is to wince the so I don't take the three points I think

that the three points they are the same but with sure I

will be the victory I for interruption or in the interruption or the abd, or in the first,

or on the third, to do you know, to make the maximum of the points possible. In theory, if you gain to him,

you can't six points, the maximum that the other athletes that can get in the first round. But then he

enter in the criteria of the disempatty, you're in the other with six, what is the question?

Well, I confess what I don't who I don't know. Who knows who, is the

my but I don't get to enter in this discussion even, so I don't know how it's a debate. I'll think it's for the time of

a lot, something, something has to be, there's a bit. It's important to get a victory and to count with this

vaga at the semifinals and this time, it's all right, get to get in the final and to

bring a million, uh, with a year last, we've been in the past, we're back my first year

of PFL and I, I, I think in the final. So I believe that I showed a lot

to the world, I'm a lot for the whole thing for my first hour of the heavy

I'm a big a barulroo great, I think people I'm just to me

respect to now and me see also as one of the tops of the category

that I always know I'm that I know I think everyone I'm

think that all the we can be with the session of this week Thank you very to Charles

of Bronx, Daniel Wanderlea, Larissa Pacheco, Renan Problema, Mattes Bufa and a friend and the company of the same.

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