MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles do Bronx fora do UFC 294 (Borrachinha também?)

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

O mundo do MMA virou de pernas pro ar com o anúncio da saída de Charles do Bronx do UFC 294, substituído por Alexander Volkanovski contra o campeão Islam Makhachev. E Paulo Borrachinha também pode deixar o card de Abu Dhabi após uma cirurgia no cotovelo. O Trocação Franca reage a tudo isso e muito mais, e traz ainda entrevistas exclusivas com Edson Barboza e Michel Pereira a poucos dias de suas lutas no UFC Vegas 81. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The MMA world went upside down Tuesday night with the announcement that Charles Oliveira is out of a UFC 294 rematch with Islam Makhachev, now replaced by Alexander Volkanovski. And Paulo Costa could be out, too! Trocação Franca reacts to all that and more. The show also features interviews with Edson Barboza and Michel Pereira ahead of Saturday bouts with Sodiq Yusuff and Andre Petroski at UFC Vegas 81. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, Lobby, Funit of Lutta,

well, the podcast Crocasoom, Franca Sua, Casa, Sub MMA, and this immense for the Sphere.

I'm Gailam Krust, correspondent on the website American, M.M. FIRE and I'm in

back, I'm onso, even, with all the new ones, the news, the podcast,

was edited, and I'm ready to be ready to be put up the morning the night of the B.C.

294, retired, the Lutz, in the Marachev, for the part of a cross profound

on the sombracell and that Paul Borrachina also can't let the event after

a car after a time before after Ranzankh Mewv. I've invited my friend Carlos

Antunus the labrador human of MMA and editor to video of the combat

to share with our frustrations with our after all the last of

the last my friend my welcome to all good for all all of the

different of all of all of what what happened I'm here. A good. It's a pleasure to be back

to talk San Franca. It's always a pleasure to talk with you, with the friends, too. I'm saying,

I'll confess, Guant I went to go to see a lot of here too, because I got a lot of messages in the

group of our groups in our groups here, talking to talk about it was not possible.

I thought that was a fact of those fake news that we today we we have

always we have to see if it's fake news if not but then I

Then I saw that it was the reality, the Charles was out of the lute. And then, long, this lance of Borrachina, also, could be able to stay from the frustration, was great, because the expectative was great for us here, this event was very great for the Brazil, the Charles could not recover the centuron,

the Borrachia, could be doing a lot of Guillaver, with a guy who had been a real, and it would be a lot of Lacken, also, also. So, it's a news, so, for the MMA Brazilian, right of the morning,

here, these baches of the last time of the W.C. in abudab. Oh, he didn't believe. The borrachia,

as we'd imagine what would happen after the surgery and all right, but the Charles got all the people who

people who everybody's to get back, to hear of the same, he said, what he said, he said,

I'm going to my family, passing to give a a recad to you know some of you should be

some of you're going to I'm sorry of WVW that will happen now, today in my

last train here in Brazil to be going to be going to get suffering a cabes in a

way to open a where I took a eight, nine points or something like something like

so I don't see right, and it's a cut too to put to to put up to put to

get in this little time that I have been a great lot so the

team with us with the team with we're we've resolved to

start the and could to be 100% up to the problem. Everyone knows

of the importance of this this is a lot of a dispute of the title. So, there were great,

great, things involved so we could enter for enter. I know that many people will be

going to talk, but it's a lot of important for the we can't be an

80% we're going to be 20% to be so much. So, so, car,

what, what's like, we're we know, we know, we're we've seen that we've seen

it's happen many times in the UFC in other events the lot

great, a lot full of expectative and it's in the hour, for the

final of the event in Abu Dhab and Sharmes in the last train second of the

night was in the round in the fifth round he's a cabre

a car we're we're we're we're we're just people remember

poor Ruzzi Aldo Sando the Sando the Sandoah Magregoa. Yeah, can't

be able to help the Charles for what happened obviously an accident a

headess but at this time, 10 days, for the last time, make a

a pacet? What the balance that you do you do that is a

fatality yeah it's it's very difficult to predict that could

happen it one in the last time in the last

the last is, not a little less a second to a little bit to get a little bit of

a little to get a little bit of some movements some kind of some sort of some sort of more level

than a way to say to do that a round of much intensity and so we don't know if it was

a very very aggressive a cabisada that kind of the box that he's yeah, you don't know

how it was the intensity of the train but it was a thing more, you know, get a more level, make some of the movements more tranquillers. It's difficult we to talk, we don't have there, we don't see,

but, you took a cabessada in a train, with a capacete's, too, you know, a lot, a lot, like Charles said, as you put, in here, a lot so important, that he was waiting so, that he was waiting for this fight, to have this revenge,

in the last train, the Dana even said, that, in an interview, when he announced, the sale of Charles, that was to be going to Abu Dhab, I think, today, or on the end, it's difficult

to judge, but I think it's a little bit of tatto, there, to try to get a level in this rata final and minimise these fatalities. I know that could happen, even minimizing, it could happen, but you minimizing, the chances, you're diminuing

a lot. It was a lot that had much expectation in similar. The first fight, it was very well, of the two. The revanch was coming to do that, too, a phenomenon of audience in the Brazil and

outside of the Brazil, also. And Marcev, poor, a champion there, impressionant. But now, what, the question is, the question is, the Chavez, have guaranteed the place of his place in the

dispute of Central? Because he entered Vokanebos, who has a lot-on-with-a-chever, or did a decision of the five-hawls, there, poor, was very dotho did a

work with Mah Chavez now he got the lot of the time of

the second he's a great finally going to the

old to in theory to the Michael Chandler in

the F.C. 300 is the thing that's coming to

that's so let's let's let's let's have in risk

the condition of his because it's the FEC I don't dovido

nothing of the FCC Viral and say, you know, you're going to you're going to go back

the Gailadoes and Marachev it's not not you can't know, you're not you're confident that the

Charles will go in a dispute and or you think that can't happen something

the FCC and say carlis you me fude here in here in the

time you you're you're going to find any another person well we can

we know we know how it also the of the other Wight. Don White, don't go

of these surprises that he has to make the poeyses he wants he does but when he he's a

when he's when he's he doesn't he doesn't he, he he don't I think, as the future of

Charles, as the next disaster is, I think that this scenario that you said, especially of Conor, going now to

in the UFC 300 in April, I think it's a very open this possibility of the the winner of this, especially I think it's even if it's a Khashav, who's, there's a story of Khabib, of that, that thing all, it's, to confront the Magreggar. I think the Konoz is a position very poly-position, to infighton, I think, especially if it was Makachev. I think, if it was Volcanovesk, the UFC could even do even do get one, depending on how it's a lot, depending on how it's

for the LUT if it's a lot really a lot really a lot really good

a lot of the fans go and the just a show a show that a new other event, but

I think the Chalels put in a position a fatality but these

things happens, not there's we're we're just we're just we're just that you're

in a position delicate put the Gannhour that was the reserve of this LUT

or an other adversary who engage in a sequence of victories in a division, a division very movemented, because no, I think the situation

was more delicate. I think to Charles could get this revanch immediate, just if the McChieve, I'd ask, or Volcanoves, who did a force, what I think I think a little probable. And just expone this fallacy, that is the

Lutador Reserve of the Yeah, exactly. The guy was in the Reserva, the night, confirmed that he was on the Saturday night, the Charles Cahe, in the Terse, and I'm at the Volcano. But he was, but the guy, no,

the guy not the reserve? Why he got a Volcano because the guy was

the guy was the guy Exactly. Exactly. He's a Povernovs, he's a Penover, I imagine with

with a lot of tranquillity, for much he's a man who's a guy great and a person, not think he

will suffer much there to to beat the 70 kills at the dispute and centuron.

But, like, I mean, to all the Charles, the best of all the

Mhachach Gagnas, because if Vokanovs Gany, because if the Vokanovs will force a

trilogy of the next and then sit, Charles and he he's or then it can

go to call on his a grave not to know to know to know

he's he's he's he's got in a situation very very in a

category because after it's a man very very to be a chance

after he did he did he was it was unacred he everything

so much so he can he could be so he can end

this equation there can't the corner magrego that can

fur your fil far far filar Carchev, before the before the

battle, you had been very very legal this revanched with Charles, he always would give a give a

extra-of- other guys, I'm still doing for Darius, for Darius getting Charles to confront him Darius,

he just not he was a thing like, it was a kind of be the guy who's the ranky-a- Gour-Darius,

not have much way, because he just came, I'm, I'm, I'm, finalize,

he, poor, rapid, a lot rapid, he's not there's a after the after the

last, he's a lot of people, saying that he not were the day he,

not were bad, but he was a case for him not are not there, not are

there, so, he's not much, money, with the sure, but if

now the FC gave other plans for him, oh, you have this option

and the he's, he will want another option, with it,

it depends all all depends all all, and you You think that the Volcanoves is that 10 days

of the FC Doors 94 you think he can't get to end up Reynado of Marachev? It's difficult Negui, Vuccanovs in the

first one lottacea, yeah, did a lot really good, it put a Kachev in situations delicat,

in situations disconfortables, but I, I don't know, 10 years before the lot of that was a

time, he had a camp, now. Exactly. Yeah, but also Vokanov is an excellent

a lot of a man, a man, but to get a little bit a lot of a lot of 10 days before the

last of the lot, it's delicate, I think, I said, he said, Macacheve was preparing for

another other lot of now, now, I'm a other style, but I think with this little time

of preparation, of all, I think it 's complicated for Volcanovs he'd do something. It's

a lot good, can take a card of the manga Brestas in first

Luta, can try capitalize in the but I think the favoritism total is

the macachev to maintain this centuron we've seen things happen to know Nate and Gilles

get the Conor taking the Luta out of the party going to get the

guy of the Bispin and got the Ruppels also in the Ruppels is complex

now. It's impervisable but it's rationally talking it's

difficult no It's a probable. He's. He's a favorite. He was the favorite for me. He was a favorite

which I think the favoritism is a major for the circumstances of Volcanoves if not had trained, he'd rolling the

papo that he would be in January, only distance. So, the October to January is a much time.

So, let me see how he will get in this lot. But, is the certainty that will

be a lutang- one. I think the Volcanox he will get there dispreparated because he not the type of guy that

is like like he's like he'll like to turn because if he would be a big he'd be in the time he'd

he was gigante he was a bigante pot pesado for pesasal to but I'm curious to see in the same card if Paul

or Borrachina will be a lot with Hansa Kimaev some days ago there was information

solded by both barrachin in the photos and photo and all showing that he passed to

a surgery in a total will be like five seven seven before the date of

the last time the date he revealed this is if he passed

with a surgery to get quiet he's he reveled before before the

before it was kind of because it might be a person

he might be a guy he got to put up to put up

to putt I imagine that he would I would but how

you react you when the borrachia revealed once in the the Luta, the necessity of the surgery, and now the possibility of the Danawite,

revealing, during the collective, after the Contendercis, in the T.C. No. That's talking with possible substitutes to try the

borrachia from the Luta and put a other person. Yeah, I think it's very strange, this, too,

Gave, as you said, you know, the borrachia, had revealed a surgery, to have shown a lot of things, and permanece

in the Lutta. But, but it, but, more a one of much the important for

he, he always always wanted the Kimaev was a one in this to provoke the Kimaev

had that there was the same that the time the time he would be looking with Kemp Holland

that kind of he had revealed that he could have revealed to the Rueh had this surgery

it's all all right it happens it's not far the lute but he revealed the

surgery he's being in Abu Dhab he's in Abu Dhabi he's a good time

he's there's, divulgues in the social, images of of training, he's coming there's a

little bit of the time he said, he said, he waspored Borrachian in a house in an abodab,

all to acclimatize him to get this time to get that he got that he went to the Lutta

the Lutta that he came, the famous story of VIN but it's curious this when the

Borrachin announced that said that was all the VATX and the WVC you just He passed for the EFC, the UFC,

the FEC said, all the all the time, go to the battle and go-bore. But now, one summer of the battle, practically. And the Dana just,

have to file, this possibility of Borrachian, to say, the Lut, I picked me very surprise. I thought,

I never even ever ever this, Gere, I thought, that he not really, because he'd have a good

time, renover, this contract with FCA for ciphers millionaires, that the husband and his employer

of his and I said, oh, I said, he's, he's, will be in any way

but now now, putting out of the last time, but I'm going not going to have got got

nothing to go to get to move to make a car, he's a car, now the shalice, now, the barhachin,

it's a bit too a situation. The UFC that was a lot of the Brazil was for the

water over overused in a poor in a few hours. It's again,

like the case of the a man, the guy, no can't cause, he leson-

you leson- will have to do you do you do a surgery, it's part of the sport. But it's more a thing

inevitably, will abalar the relation of his because originally the Luta not would be in the Luton a Lernerner a F.C.

The guy is completely known to Borochie, he's not that Boroastin'n't that from Borghastin'n't I don't want to this guy, this other

not will happen to happen, Bette, Bette, the Lute with the Lottes with the Lackin who was that was the

GOLRashin, can't try the Lutut, if he is receiving a a bolsa that he says, oh, parabins.

They're saying that it's a ball of a billionaire. One million of dollars for is a

money, if it's for this for this is a pardon, thank you Tamara, a great

time, he's a man who is a man who not a very champion that can't that's

exactly. So, if you get this good, it's wonderful for him, but,

that's a ball of the new in the relation. And, but all this,

you know, you know, I commented on a day last time in our group while I was apurant on the day 22 of September 20 days this, quite, that's been,

I had heard of a talk of the FCC was talking with other athletes looking a substitute of Borrachina that was

a boyishia said this in the Luta, who had said the UFC offered to the other the people

of the people of Ki Maev not said they not were informed about this possibility and in the end of the

end of the end of the Jets Canonier was a guy that was in a guy that was in the front there to to pick a

lot, he even was marked like to be the lot of the lot of the barhachin which me surprised

because no, no, no, no, no, there's a time,

pass some some time, and then pass the thing, the UFC to have been bused to

have been to be other person because, the Jazz Canonir that was the possible reserve in the now he's a good

lot to have a lot for him even, it's a marked a lot to do you to do that look at the question to get to make him, to make him to

the guy will want to do that a situation quite complicated there is what I'm what I remember that you said that you said

we've said this possibility and with the pastos the Burrachinah not, you know said not saying no

with a monia with a lot, Marcahain in Abu Dhab, he said, I've been passed, it's all right. What I'm sparta to let's get to get this point, you know, boy, he's having a surgery, and to get to get a 10 days of the lute. You said, oh, you've got this surgery, your coutouillo is a wrong, we get this a lot, we'll get another,

and then you get a other guy, and we do something, let's say, knowing of this surgery of the bohachina, to get to get the limit of the thing, it was to have to have it was to have to do it,

the surgery, that would have time to an adversary to try to prepare for Kimma Ev, something to do. There was a time to find a substitute, a guy who accept, to, let's get to get a 10 days of the the Luta, it's a lot. I think it's very amador to

get to get this point, and that you were talking, you know, Guilla, did the Borrachin, he got this lute that he wanted to and all, now, he'd get more than a situation with the Charles, right? He doesn't have no power of bargain any

he no, he won't get to able to get to put the Puck-N, no, now, I want to to be for the fulano and I don't accept. Now you will offer you can't be a Aliskerov, that was the guy that he would be able to confront him.

1.0, you'll have to see. Now, you'll have to front this car there, my friend. The thing is this. Or you'll, you don't want to look it and not will win, and then, that's that thing. He's, he's, without any of bargain more. After he did, not the fault even the Borrochina, that he advised the

surgery, but, say, since in the fight that he'd be able to, it, will be complicated for him. And will have to alter what he may have to say, right? Exactly. He'll be talking on the social and he will

say much And now And now he will Never ever I think he never I think Now, just if the Borrachean was

Campion or engathe a sequence of five victories The Kimer was Campeon And so so so soon

Because enfrent now front and will be front and even It's If you could

You could choose who would Who would be the Substituto of Borrachin case

He really have One of V-VVX for the FC to substitute Borrachin was the

Sun Street The FC thought the chance Strickland counter Kimeh in Abu Dhab and the

Shastrick is a malucco of the way he even he even though but they're a idea

a very embecile so he not was, this was in September now in now in now he's

not gonna get a Mucco no way not gonna be a non-gulat what you

would be what you would you would you would choose to be a situation much

a category who will get this this bomb yeah to confrontal Kmiiv

with 10 days of preparation the guy has to be a good warrior to top to this, but we're analyzing the division,

the guys that we think they could want this risk, I don't know Robert Witter who's a situation

in the limbo in the division is a guy very good ex-campion but he's getting there getting the

Dupless and he's also it's a lot that he could get a a good but it's

but it's a good yeah Yeah, because to accept a A lot of this of the last hour,

it's very complicated it's very difficult a guy to accept so if a man of a middle maybe a maybe do

see a division because that's there's without a and get to get

to get difficult to analyze a a belal of the but I don't know

if it would also would be to be to go to get a category rapidin

so to get the Ke Maev the Belaw, that's in a sequence of victories, is the beerando

the centuron, to get a bomb this, it's a situation very little for the FC. I think the UFC, I think the

situation, the problem is, the solution perfect, would be the Durin, so that's being done to

the lesion, because it would a revent, I had a certain, I'd be a lot of this category to affect the

middle of the middle, but he is recuperating as a lesion, not would have conditions I think the ideal for he would be

December, November, December so October is impossible for he's possible for he gets to make a lot of so I think of be very creative to try to substitute boachina

because in the middle a 10 days the guy is talking about to get to come back and get to and cut a and cut a piece

too the people get with a more high so I think the only side of the UFC is to try someone to get to

get to is disposed to the challenge, oh, gain a good money too, and the

UFC try to make a thing, you'll know, you'll have to get to see something,

yeah, Guy, not, not, oh, go to go to get the man,

and fuck this, no, it's a kind of a little maybe, but then I don't want

that my situation can't get a something, because it will have a way,

I think to be the person, it's it's been to be the middle for the

the guy that you not can't cut the To give you to give a grail in a collar of a caroosman of the life. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. He's got over. This money extra here. And the Kimeve also accept, because imagine, I'd say,

carl, you know? Yeah, I'm gonna put him, put him preparing for a striker, who is a burrachina, but also, so Camaro, who is a grappler

of excellence. The Kimefe also, I don't know if this, the Lutz will have to do the risk of the Kmavre is,

I don't know. I think there is a much incentive financial to be to be Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He was a Vokanovs, he wanted a lot, he wanted much Marachev. Much of Khomeyev. T'embe so he's much time

to go to this card, yeah. And with Ramadan and, so he mayh not a man, not a man,

he'll be a time, he'll end up. He can't be able to with him with him front of two categories,

yeah, I'm doing two categories. I'm thinking to me as well, I'm thinking to come to not he'd I think that the

way that the category is in the he knows that if he wins being well he gets to a barracheen I think

he disputed the stutory as he depends much of who enter into he knows he can't

have a touping even because he hascculted to put up the chancers in this

case so I think he will he will be able to he's not he's not he's

he accepted hexx he was he was two hours of decendance when he took he

It's a style completely different. But we'll see, to guard the scenes of the next capitals there. To we'll finish, my friend, my friend, no UFC,

San Paulo, the Jaelton Marietin and went to Curris Blaze and entered the Derek Lewis. So, in the same way, a style completely

different. Completely. To get him, for Derek Lewis, Lewis, who passed for the same to Marks-Pez-on

in the last rode-dora, in less of a minute. You think the thought the lot of difficult? this trope? I think, Guy,

are the styles completely different, as you said, but I thought it was good for a Maradine. I think it was a little

for him. Apeser to Dr. Lewis has a patada, the guy bathe much the major knockoutiator

the numerous the Numeras, the Vtoryt but I think Marladee is a man a mannederer that he's

got to put the Lewis to get disperperated, not can't get a not get to get rid of

the chan't try to is a malanro, a invergurrature much great, it's grampia, put to down and work on solo.

I think it's more fast for him because the Custs Blades is a guy who also has a lot of a solo legal, the guy who could be to see

better some put some for the Maliadino in the Lutta a lot of a lot of a person than the Daryke Luce,

I think it was better for the Maliadino to maintain this sequence and the Derek Luce is a name,

Declor Centurion or this thing, maybe the victory is even a major for him, vencering Derek Lewis

if you put in a situation even better in a category encurting that distance for a dispute of a

time. In terms of hype, the other got much because Derek Lewis is a guy

much more popular in the country in the importance of the fight in the role, I think,

the player is a guy a better a blackedino about the Blas is more about the athlete

than a a victory of Maladino than a a victory of Derek Lewis is a little bit more difficult than the Jaising Rosenshuk, that the Maladino

gave in the last month, because the Jai Zin is a striker also, puttow to go, man, manned him, and he gothattin' amassed. But the Derek Luce, he just showed that to put him to back, he has

a recourse to say. I don't remember who he was in the middle or of guard or the guard passada, and the Derek Luz he left like like to be like,

so some molyza, So I think the game of Maladino is a very solid in the part of the grappling. So I think there's a job to put it to back back and amass and knockoutial or finalize. But have to take much good with that pat-up. Like Jay-Zinn, he offers this peril. This pat-a-old is the peril.

For you, you can fall, you can't be knocked out. And the Maladino is a guy who has confronted with looters much great, are very, pesados to a damn. So, he... He knows what you can't put it. to put it to put it to He'll have this difficulty to

But he's even He's even Yeah, it's He's here He's just He's called But I think I think

You said, the hype The hype of Derek Lewis is Mereurr, but the question of ranki-maint is different, but I think a victory Lerick Luce will give a motivation

Maneerner will put a maladian more in the Mildian at a Midea GRIEN, the guys are A more a victory a guy

Perigoso, against a Derek Lewis and deployed for the Mildon never have liked this mudance I don't

don't converse with the maladino but I think he should have got this this time of the other

other than that another one three of five rounds Nehue Dirk Luce is a guy that's a lot that's a

little bit a lot of he used to get a RAPE but if he decided to work to not can't

to cause the adversary and not can't Can you can't be able to cook the Derek Lewis even. For less a month of

antecedency to get to San Paul not a scenario very far as the same cold

in Brazil poor there's distraations in San Paulo full of distractions yeah

there's yeah well I'm I'm sure I'm I'm going to I'm just

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that this Saturday, Enfretreux, in the UFC, estriending, as a major. Amid, how is it's the expectative? I imagine that, there's two days of the pesage, as a little more comfortable, more solidable, without having to

be disindratable and be able to get to be set and seven kilos how are you passing this new life there?

My expectations are the best factors now in this new category the peso more higher,

suffering less to better better to be it's all different this my life

with Tompso I suffered much to batter pace trying to battle

and not it was a and it was very complicated for me so this subida

now did a do a relaxed sure that we're still but it's much less and we

have much more to take it before the I had to I was going to

get to and then I'm going to get to more 6, 7 Kilo 8 kilo

and that was very complicated Jujah Mood Mini you're a man

really who's even in categories acercer how is the process of to make the process of

to make sure you know because you had been a problem in the past in 2019 in the UFC, you know, but in the last time you were more consistent,

was able to get in the no, no, no, no, from the suffering from,

I always suffering I always never, but no, not, not, not,

not, not, not, but what was this time, that you, you've, you've,

for me, it's been in the middle, it's been in, I think a year, I think a year, I don't know

exact, but it's for so, so, so in- the fight, and my fight was

hadiated five five years, and with this trok now, we're, to the

other, the other other, and then, I, training very very, I,

I've been very, physical, everyone who my company, I'm, know,

I'm, my company, very physical. And with this, I was gaining mass muscular, I was getting more strong. All the amount that I was, the cargues that I was taking. And this was making, with that

I was getting a muscle. I was, you see, 7.7, I was 7.7, like if it was a 7.4. And this, when we went to take the peso, we always did one thing. And

when we went to do the same thing, it was doing everything. I I'd, I always I'd, I had a 1,000,000, 1,000,000, 1,000, 300, I'd get 1,000 and 400,

dorming. This time, now, I'd get, I, I'd, I'd, 50 grams, 400 grams, and then,

it was different, man, you know? There's days that I could, like, every day, it was a lot,

yeah, we'd, we'd, we'd, to take much the and then

we'd walk for the game and we'd give a minute but then

when we would be more to find that we would try to get to

get to four hours down in my friend my man like

being in 20 minutes and I'm five and was

in this fullerage tan I I I'm I I'm

I'm I'm I didn't for for I don't want to

I not have tried, I did do everything, I did you do the FCC, the nutritionist, the FECD, should be a very professional, that I never did I never did do anything, and this

time, everything was possible to do, I tried to do, I'd, even to ask for F.C. For F.C. to me help to help to take my Pes. Because we not had more what to do,

done the canber, and no, a partada that who, who was living, the suffering, the guy, quite, because there

any time you can't do a problem there, my man, for you to go to get to

a life is a little. So it was a thing that I was I'm going

and I thought I'm, I, I have to have been my

evolution. I have to go I have to be to be to my

body not more for 7-7. I just I just came and got a grand

so, and I got a set to get a lot, how had to make a lot of the

and I would not would be going to because the right is what I'm going the

and get the money, to get the and it was adi the lot, it was just was

going to get, I'm going, when I went to when I went to the problem

and there no no, no, no, who'd ever to do you? Who did this process

total, I mean, I, yeah, I, I, I'm, during the

the banier, this, yeah, yeah, it's, like, the ultimate, that's,

the other the UFC, not the nutritioner of UFC, I, I, I'm, I,

here, I'm, there, one, on the one, on the massage,

the breast, uh, the, the back, the, and the other, nutritionist

of the be doing massage on the feet because I was doing canber and all like in the top, in the arms,

and then I'd do in so, man, like, dave a insults, you know,

dave some the train in a people, and I, and I, and I, and I,

and I, and I, and trying, tentating, tentating, and then, we've, a time

there, down, down the banneer, and I didn't, I, I don't remember

of the but it was for there 100 grams then we've been there's a thing, there's been,

if the Thompson for acetal to fight with me he will accept, because not was not a he will

accept I with with this or with because to be back it would be more, no more

to be made, I'm sure, and you were confident that he would accept the lot, if you're

not, you know, I'm the same the person, you and you, and the

Thompson, you were confident maybe for this reason could be able to make a

little to a lot? I was I was disposed to do it even if he could be 50%

of my my bolsa or if he would I would not enter in a

place in the ranking of him I was I was disposed to all

and and then I think I thought I'm never saw a a lot

for a cause of a poor of a that we're we're not a little

I've got to a guy with a 5 kilo at the same 5 kilo 300 for me never was

problem like the man I'm my man I'm my friend my my percentage

and we let me we'll look because there's a camp a we get I'm just

I'm a year and a little without I'm so Kereen not the guy

needs of a money so when he came with this thing

and not I would be saying I'm thinking the FC tented of everything to he looked

to offer more money, offered him he no I'm doing he did get a bit of

a bond so you know so I'm not there he's no the right he's right

of his right of him not accept but I thought he's he'sagered a little

and not accept the because it is very poor he's he

he's the he's he says that many times happen

these things ruin, if it was if it was at the molless the guy, the guy is all the

grand-down, not you don't see fudeau not care to try the thing, be the

because the company, he's all the time with me, that's my too, I think, I have,

I have certain that he was going back to Tombs because he was there

was there and he he I thought a little like, like, so,

Porra, the guy, no can to look, vey. I was, and, like, I was,

like, I was, like, I, like, I'm going, I'm very so I'm very, so I'm

so I'm, so I'm, what, but it's that's it. But I'm, but I'm, you're not,

you're, you're, I'm, the possibility to do more than, so, don't have a

, you're, to, not have a interval so so great to one and there's a very good

he's all it's a great, it's a great because you're were many

because you're not in many times but in a scenario normal you will be to be

more more more it's a other life for me a other life

like I'm I'm I'm that's he's he's he's

he's that I love with Chimahe Morae and it

probably that the lot of Bouchon yeah it's yeah

I said I I said Patron, I'm here, I'm here, whatever something, just me to put out there,

that I don't think of that I'm not having a camp there's a thing of I'm,

I don't know, I'm not, I'm doing, I'm, and then you, and it's just to say,

to say, that's, I don't have any friscus no, so, in the 8, 4,

I will put to much more more times, I'm I'm able to,

it, even, even, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm I did 30 years now

now, everything all the my body he's involved so now now I'm a four for the

category yeah, I don't me see descending to seven, seven so soon to know,

what was the response of Dan O'atch to your message? No, I'm going I made

on the I'm gonna imagine that there's some people of people offering

to enter to come in this little maybe because the people

have maybe the maybe not not not everyone

want to to fight with him, even more in the more in the time, it's the

people who I see that I see that I see that that you can't accept it's me,

it's the Kevin Holland, the Strickland, which is more loco so, you know, to have

friscura, the rest, uh, and how you'd see this this would be this

question? He, he's, he's been to be trained much chan, uh,

so I'm, to get a barrahing. So I think he would try me to put to the chum, because I'm perigoso, I'm perigoso in

the same, and I think he would try me put to me to put to back. You're not confident that

can't happen? You've been in this Saturday, I go the the same, I go to the air

to be in front of the Kmaa too? Ah, car, the we know, we're just we're

but, but, it's like I always said from from the first I'm a

officer, I never had free I was in the opponent for me and I don't accepted and I said this guy there, no, I never did this.

And it's not, today I'm going to do. And I'm here. What the UFC is I'm in. How are you going to this Saturday, so, so,

to guarantee the first part of the mission? I think I will knockoutier the opponent. It's a lot little bit.

It's a guy who is coming to five victory, I'm going to know, I don't, I'm doing to five victories,

and it's a man that's a guy that we'll see, when we're when we don't do a camp like a complete,

is more a way, but he definitely, for it's that's he accepted, and it's

a good lot. We're we're just we're just the Saturday does a fight in Las Vegas against,

I'm sorry Dik and Yusuf, my friend, welcome the podcast more once, how are these

these last few years of preparation, now focused more in a course of the first battle before the last time. How are your things for there? All the time.

All right. I've been this, just many and many times times. So, we're very little things,

surprise, the people, now, in this moment. And I'm prepared for all that's going, so it's

going to be going to be sure, and it's great, God. One of a matter interviewing

various esposas of lotators. I interviewed I interviewed I'm in the other other spouse and she said

one of the things more of the other life as a life as a little bit of the best of the page

you want to see a channel of food. It's the guy that poor, without coming and

can be TV, program of culinary car, how is it is a thing you

do you do you know now that the part is more the part of the

person to do you with certainty. I adore I'm going to start seeing. And,

and I'm a guy of the cuisine, who I'm going to do this thing, but I love to see the

other doing. And this is very loco. And in the summer of the time,

it's more this is the vote more even so I love, I'm going

the day entire the television, the people cooking there.

I think I'm a little the want to look I can I can

me control well, I can't a little bit of a want to to eat.

I think we like to see in the television things that we don't have to see the television

program of those mansions of the millionaires, those cars manoeers, things that I don't have conditions to

buy a kind of you know, you know, it's very it's true it's true it's really.

It's really. What you can't control is to get in at 6-6 on the Saturday

for the Saturday for this a lot a lot principal, how is the impugation for an bellissom

a lot of boughed in a long, a joelied in a first round, to do a lot final, it's five rounds,

it's different I imagine the camp is more degastant to the core, but the one is a major for a lot

important like this? Well, I'm sure, as you say it's different, because it's

more 10 minutes of porada but at the same time, it I'm happy

for the opportunity, because it's a recognition, it's a when we're doing to do you make a lot of a lot of

the company, in your work, and I know these longs and long years in the FCA and God,

they continue to me doing the chance, I mean, that I'm making a very happy, very happy,

this was a lot that was to be able to be in Abu Dhabi in that several of the pandemic,

but he got back when it happened, he was substituted by the Americane that you went to move to 20 to come. In that little bit to come in a sequence more d'clock, you came to three derrots, had much pressure on the same of you you, you got to make a mercanny,

now you've been embaled for a bell knockout, one thing you always do you always do you do with time? You think you're going to, you think now, more experienced after this time, and also with a, for being for being, for being in a

good, Vitoralya? With a chance. I think the head doesn't It doesn't much, car. Independent of victory, a derrota, I know how the

game works, it's the sport, we get, in a way of the we get, and then we don't get

nothing. When I go, I go back to go back the academy, I'm going, I go back

to get to try to make, and look to do it. Nothing mud, but, but,

you said, it was to have to be been to have been back, and I think God

does the things certain, it happened on the hour right a

one of the first, a lot of I'm a very happy, how you think the case the finalization in

the curriculum too, but there's a more part of the victory at least is for a knockout but

to try with you can be not, not, not, not can be a idea

very good knowing, how you know, like you're letal, with chute, joelada, you think he

will be trying to try porada with you in these 25 minutes or

you will you your story. It's a lot of M.MA, it's difficult to we

see a pretty way something can't happen something, can imagine, like a majority,

the majority of the car, the lot of always try to try to try to try to me derubing, and one hour or other,

they try to me derubes, try to me can't be can't be to some trying to gethous,

but I am prepared to do to look, car, where the where the lot for

I'm prepared I was prepared very for this Luta, Dimeas in all the areas, so I think

for the where this fight was to be in the category. You're a guy who's a guy who's a bit of

the Cinturon, the Pesolive, is a pushing your space there, in the

top five of division, in the Pesopena now, you think that this

is that you can more close even to think it's to be a lot against a

a a rodada? With certain he's a guy, he's a guy that is a

front of a victory of a victory over the he would put in me

put in front right there there so the top 10

and and the the coming and when I want I'm

working for the I want to be the champion I

want to continue to this this way not

different man no no a victory for him

me would more to the front to put a chance to one day to look the centuron.

And just for we're just to finish the champion of the division of Rokanov's

and it was after after the time after he could infatat the topuria in the

end of the war substituting the charnes of bronks in the second next

against the Mr. Marachette to the new by the Cintron of Lever

the first he did he did a excellent work he was to

the decision to a A guy who He's a guy who speaks of the guy who did

what did for everyone in a category with Charles and now he's going to just 10

days of the but you think that this is a result is different you think the

Vokanov's that's conditions of Gead of Marachev or 10 days is more difficult

to to put to surprise the man no no no no

no no when you have when you have a camp entire of

the of the semans there's where you get more prepared the card all of

but automatically this I think I think the I think the Buchanovs more less

less without some of the costas of his he knows he said if

if I get the I'm a lot 10 days so I think he will

be more perigoso particularly in the initial of the

last and I think from he's repans revanch

so he he is very this this lot of the so I think he think he's I think

will be very very dangerous especially in the initial in the initials the end of the end of the gas

there and I think he could get and then we'd want to see the charles a champion poor

to bring this sendoran to Brazil but if it not it's not it's just if you

if you were to put up your your diner in you would you postary in this zebra

you think the vulcanovs if you think that that, that's to enter

more and without the impression the Marathevi has got a lot I'm not. I'm I have to

pay to pay my money, so I prefer prefer that I'm, I don't put him

no, no, I'd put it in Makachev, but as a athlete, I think

that the Vucanovs have had a chance to gain to get to the

Macachev. A we can this this week of podcast, I'm saying much to

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