MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles Do Bronx Topa Luta Com Conor McGregor

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Charles do Bronx volta ao Trocação Franca após defender com sucesso o cinturão dos leves no UFC 269, finalizando Dustin Poirier em Las Vegas, e fala sobre tudo: a vitória sobre Poirier, a mudança de postura de Justin Gaethje, a subida no ranking peso-por-peso do UFC, a torcida de Amanda Nunes para seu rival, e por que toparia enfrentar Conor McGregor já na sua próxima luta. O podcast recebe, ainda, o jornalista Zeca Azevedo, do Combate, para analisar tudo o que aconteceu no UFC 269. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Charles Oliveira returns to Trocação Franca after successfully defending his lightweight title at UFC 269 by submitting Dustin Poirier in Las Vegas. The champ discusses everything: His win over “The Diamond,” Justin Gaethje going from trash-talker to respectful and back, Amanda Nunes rooting for Poirier, why he would agree to fight Conor McGregor next, and more. Then, Combate reporter Zeca Azevedo stops by to break down all the storylines coming out of UFC 269. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Seniors and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, hello,

Amigo, Furn, well, the 15th episode of the podcast Trocafranca, a your house about MMA in this immense podosphere. I'm Gailme Cruz, correspondent of the site

American on M.A. Fire in Brazil, and I'm back on this quarter a week on the company of the champion Charles of the Bronx,

which took on the last the end of Dances and Rue in the U.S.C. 2006 and I'm going to be a talk to Zekasevedo

Jornalien, the journalist, more beautiful, The Combatte.com. All right for you, Mewa, me Mewka,

Chris. Do combat there's dispute. You know, but you're going to be Marlowe and Raphael-Marinio,

not any, no, no, it's a word, I said that there Disput, I don't say that I will I'm going to gain, but

but it's a lot of here with you, it's, it's a, it's a desire, because, you know, it's your de, it's success, so, so I'm gonna' you, a honor, to be here. The pleasure is all my, my, man,

but now, now, so the podcast is with, with, with people who are talking about of what are talking, of quality. Before, we brought some,

some, but now we're getting to the level, no, it's a pain that, the tendency is just to call, not so we contract the

service for you to be fixed here, the tendency to be able to the end up the way of the question you comment

with you're going to with a lot so we'll talk the UFC 269 in the last Saturday, a eventass in Las Vegas

not we'll not let me start by Amanda Nunes that was the major surprise of the

one of the most of the time of all the time because all the world would be favas contaders

I, I, I, at least contable just with the victory of Amanda Nunes.

I was talking much that it was a lot of not me impugabab because it was the

idea of Amanda Nunes to get and all this and then we'll presente with a

lutebra historic Julianna Penha after the first of a difficult, took a

second round to go to goate and it's simply finalized a l'clock A result shocking for me.

How is you react when you when you watched this lot? Well, the surprise of the victory of Julianna

was even the major for the first round the Amanda really started very well, it's a

favorite favorite, pergending the lot, continue to be a better than a

Juliana, with the historical that Amanda has, and then then came that first

round and said, well, before this first round is a question of time

yeah, it's a good to have decided there's a matter to finalize a lot of

a lookout in some moment, it's like she does a she had said before the

the lot has five rounds, no it's not she said, she's she's

going to the second round, and then then it's a second round for me

a lot for me because nobody apostable in this procaation of

the a lotator, that the proper Amanda said that she did a camp very similar with what was the camp of the camp

of Misha Teet that has a game very similar and then when a Julianna Penh and encounter

a distance and go jebeying to the left and talking the Amanda all the

moment and in various moments she put the left the right and connect the

right and a Amanda in some I remember of what was the thing of

the Rhonda with Amanda assustated with a with a trocaation and accepting all the

whole and I think she could have been to leave the lot to the ground I think

other other ways she she, she, she's not, I don't

say it's a suburb no, but she not, not, not, I just

not, she was not a thing, in some she a man of her in

a man in a man a man was a cyborg did with her

experimented the Vennan the contrary, and went to a trotation franca, alucinada, and it left the poor. The man of Julianna was entering

in form impressionant even. I think nobody expected the, the form how the Julianna won't know. Amanda Nunes

is a person that is a very averse of the interview, not a lot of the treatment. You know,

you made a interview with her after this this, this, this, this letter you did you

do you feel of her, you feel maybe in the moment of the or before had subestimated a Julianna as a lot,

as a lot of people see, how I would, that she would not be a problem? Or you think that it was

the case? Simply in the moment, she thought that was resolved to any way the the moment?

I think really, as soon not it was the lot that empolgava the fans, also

I don't think it was a lot that was a with her with her, to I'm

going to put a faca in the dentes and I need, I said, like,

so, like I'm, she's she's a she's a she she's a she's

she's so, it's just it's a sufficient, I don't need to bring a

more, despite in the own interview, I said, I'm, at every thing,

something new, the people expect to me. But I, in this lot, clearly,

she, this something to where the the lot happened. But I

think she she's the way, the division is so razzed, a Juliana is what

can't and we let's and she and she is a she's a

role to be a Rolly, the Germene more once a way, the division is very

rase, it's good to give the opportunity to other to the so,

so she she, I, let me give a opportunity that's going to to be in

the back exactly we're going to let's give an opportunity for who can't let's

there's I'm going to enter the Rolly that's a general the German that's

she's a championing she's not the same level of this but also also I don't I'm going

I'm going I'm know so menors and so went there and trained you

you prepare and but I think maybe mentally not even not even if I'm

with that some kind of in the life of my life and talk, go to make the cinturon.

It's a lot normal. A we we've seen the last years defending the centurion in

two categories different being so dominant that's a one of this form for who

for who is very this result he's the result of the the major zebra of the history of the FC, or you

would like to look at least of a lot that we've seen? To what I've, for me, the major zebara. Nobody in San Conscience Apostone in Julianna Penh in this luther. Ah, no, I'm here. I'll try this zebra here, I'll

be able to, break the banca and all. No palpiton, in the combat, you know, no, Marcelo Barone, apostore and I postured Julianna Penn, I think to do that, to do you? I think to do that, you know? Who knows? right

the right the end up exactly but in some conscience let's say a good who will

go to who will so you know so really of what I see is the the major zebra

the story for me in the office I'm I'm telling the material on the portal of

Valle that had a fan Brazilian who did a Charles the Bronx

Shannon Mali and Juliana Penha but in the man was he

aposted he's all he just perceived no final of event when he went to he was

he was he went to he went $46,000 he said if he should be a period

had been a money and a million $1,000 to $1,000 for $46 my

dear. And what do you think you think you do a panoramic this result? Or was

Amanda Nunniz accorded and continue being a favorite in a possible

remand I think that Amanda continue entering as a favorite I think

we're we're we're to come to the I don't don't

I'm better prepared but so more more atent

the the the the the so so I think this

will have influence in the the the but

the the but I'm Amanda Nudes is much

more lot than Jvana Ben the Julianna can

filler a 10 from the way to get to make a man, but today

not this derotta that says for me that Julianna P. is more a manna

continues being a favorite having this revanch. It's the event also

also, there was a be a be a better in a primary, that was

the Brunnerner, that was a former who did a few time, he did in

six months the third, the third knockout. This time, the victim was the Jordan Wright, who is a posture of carateca, and he came to do a shushinel in the blindado

in the commis, but Iquist to try chumbo with a blindado, it ended paying the price very car, you think to be able to

a new name in this division, a name that is a division of Brazil has a lot of a lot of top,

trying to retom the path of victories. You think the blindado comes with a new option in this division? And also

also there in the category, the Cs de Pano, that finalized the Eric Anderson, and it's also,

the two do you do the two do the two are the next different in this division, no,

I think we are we're we're able to maintain this the measure that, as you

said, when you said under all this says story, we're many

lotators, very promissory for this division So, the blinded is a lotator that me empoled, so a guy

a knockoutier, a guy a man, a guy, a good- very much he, I think

now can't let's go to, let's go and come back, I think, he's in fillerando

one, two, three, then you know, and I'm going to study now

the other the other, who's maybe, yeah, just, to,

you know, and, yeah, to confronts who's in the foot that's in the foot

but it's a lotator also that's a guy charismatic, call the man to make a a figure out of

exactly, a figuresa and I think he will make a big of this division Sergei Pan

also that also he who's been so the Brazil I think is well

he's been represented maybe maybe the night for Brazil along of the

the was the first Lutta Enfriotton Dr. William Robinson that she had had come

bading the pain not being three libres aced over the yeah with the libres

of tolerance it was very long to batte the the pain she was she got

got got getting intibos so it prejudiced much the

cost of her but she was she did she don't 30% of but the part

came in a the Luta, that she had been a quaylor a Jillian Robinson

picked the back on the thing to defend the matalian the peterita infioed two times the the deadon

in the old of the Jianne Robinson, that a tactic maruta there of the times

antips of valetudud yeah that's quite that costed the victory probably

she was she was finally she got to be the second to come the first had to

have been the where the peddita just, maybe to take a point of the habit,

you know, what could happen, much of the different could happen but she after the first round, what you think

this posture of the pedita, you think it was in proposis? She said that not was in the purpose, that was,

she wanted, that was, she mirro, the pescoce, but who will be going to get to get up

the head- and the you know, you know, the deadon, and there, and there's more than,

if it was more or less there, I'm, too, two years, it, it's just a situation for her,

no, and for me, the image, not can't be to bring up with the image, she goes catating to

where it's going to when she gets in the eye, she gets with force, so I

don't know to be to bring with the image, she can't try to be sure, but

the game much bad, the game soo, you know, she said,

she, she, she, Well, I've received renovated the contract of her I think

still in the base the question of the PRVT to be in Jessica, and Jessica is a lot

a ex-compan that has much a moral in the FC that can try to other other

with her. And I think that also, she's a lot of with her with a

with a like, I'm like, I'm just, yeah, so let's

let's more chance here into this and that this remember, because

she's going to the canaerce, go to the end, and there no final of the round,

and she'll start to get to remember that the Loddra that's a Valentina gets on

the same, and, and where the Yamazaki that me, me, let you be to be a

, ser, yeah, don't, jogging a to- know, but, but it's

a, po, the game, the, the game, the job, the job, the game

back, not I'd need to that's, it's, it's, it's a

manchado, and then it pays for the future, the UFC will, maybe leave this

in consideration too. With a good, the great start of the event, the same

of the event, the Saturday of the conference, but before it, we're going to talk about

the the champion direct of Las Vegas yeah, just of the rapid interval

commercial. The other side of the other side of the champion the

champion, PIS, the Brons, just just had to the Cintourn

against the show and a time, a lot of a matter of a new time, you know,

a pleasure to be you to get you back to the podcast, two parts of the first of a man,

thank you to be the carina, right, thank you, man, going to be happy, man, with all this, with this hype that

I'm living, I'm living in house, my father, I'm going to get in the house, my father, but I'm

doing a lot doing a lot of doing a lot of things to my boy, I'm happy, you're happy, legal. Manio, Kamak, how's it? How's it's, how are the emotion, it's, many says, no, it's easy, no,

it's easy to get in a centuron, but even more difficult is defend the centauron. How is it? How was the emotion of this setap important in your reenado as as a champion?

It was good for the fact of the power of the fact of the person was talking, the luthers, the great names that I

would be able to and I would ever to be able to the form of how it was been able to how it's very much

when I'm moving in the part in the part of going to go to go to go ahead, there's a other things to

know, but you know the guy not called me knowchal me knockoutia and God. So I'm

so I'm living, I'm, learning, I'm getting more than more than this high

because this that's, that's good that I'm doing, that God is my person

a guy who is specializing in a nut emotionate, I'm a conquist of the Cintrown against the Tendler. He was that, that he stutter, that's a lot of, that's problem, now, when I despoenaed,

a new, a first round difficult, that he got the first of, if you, you know, you know, how it was, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, it was, a, it was, something that you're, in the, plan, in, the, to do, the first round,

to tryation, and in the second and in-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-trap, more the KERD, invest more in Jiu-Gitz? How is the

idea and the plan on the fact to go to the other? Kara, no, it was the

strategy. We had a strategy mounted on the but we're talking about M.M.A.

M. M. is improvisible. No, M. M.m. In fact, we're not

is, as I'm not, we're saying, as I'm saying two, as two great names, two of the

two of the grandes. Not, not it is, I'm I'm going to say, I'm

I'm talking of two great names, you know, so the lute, she was in foot, talking in part,

I'm going to go to go again, I'm saying, I'm really, when I say, but the people don't are

burs, they, they're, they're, know, the game the game entire,

and really, the first rald was in a war, but if you see, I saw the first round,

I'm, I'm going, to the second Alde, we've done, we're, we're doing, we're

we're back the round, we, I, I've, the second round the time entire,

man, on the top batting, working on the cuttoveal and I want to you know,

that the media, that live the media, that live the world, me respond, when you see

the Dush, he, say to the first round, a second round, that's kind of,

never was seen, this never was seen, with any of the people who knew,

so, so, so, so, what we're the time, the time, the time

entire, I want me leave to the waters profound. But in the second round to the third, he was a lot

he was done. That's we brought to the game, that we brought to do that did the same. In no moment

I'm not, I think, oh, or anything, or anything, it was a lot, and I was

a lot, and I was good, God, did certain, but one God, me ben suhue,

and we did a victory to the man, and it's, and it's, and it's, a lot, the word,

the word, the a virada in the fight, was when you were on the floor, and he finished the guard

with you for over the same. He was not comfortable there, he didn't keep you to keep you know, that's

a man very talented in the Jujits, but that's, for me, he not had the ground as an option. He had

to try a porad with you in step, because if were to the shone, he not, he not

didn't, especially for both, you felt, you felt like, when he felt like, when he

, this, this guy, this, this, this, this, this, on the floor and the middle, it's

I don't think I think I think of the guys who come in the part of in- -pair who came to make to do

make a show with the he may have to make sure the other than the judge than what he got to be

getting me aghraining I thought that he said that he makes a he'd prefer to keep trying.

So, like I we said, we can't we can't we can't see this and we're

so, but but as well he may be all the respect of the world for the story that he is

for how who viz the But it's that, I think he had in mind to keep trying in all the

audio in feet to see what he could be this is more or less than the

other than that's kind of I think that's a story have a something

there's a look for you know how it's interesting in the battle of the I opened

the ligament I opened a legament I had a lesone in virile in order I

couldn't like like if was a treatment, like if it was an trinity,

and I don't continue to trainer. And I didn't, like, doing this during a

long time, without getting to many things, to be able to do it, and when I thought,

I thought, it was a COVID, and I got a COVID, I got a

, I think you three days without, because I thought that had taken COVID,

when I discovered that was dang, I continued training, but, but,

I went and I would, and I do, and I'm sure we're in

we went to the we did the we did the for this for this lot of the I did so in the

man, po no I'd want to get a man, poe, the same the year of

my hand and without making contact of the man. It was just a tockin because I could not

could be back the right so each one one has a lot of a lot

was a little was a war, this this is a war this is a

war, it's a response to did any have been in the problem? Did it?

What was exactly? Yeah, it was just for Hurturins, yeah, of pancada, it was to batter,

we're going in a sequence gigantesca, but, but, thanks a God, not had been

done to not much, but I would have done by the hand out of the

time, the team could do you do you do the time and massaging

and passing the pomada, and thanks of all all right in

what you did you did it was a to get a gain. I think when I started my goals, the first round was a round difficult for me, but it was a round that, I continued going to front, working,

working, the time entire, when I puttie back to the second round, I puttie up to the second round, and I saw he was making a lot, I thought, he was going to be very tired, and when the, like, we feel the water of the we're there, when I was sente, I was the whole whole, I looked at the other side,

and he was, you know, I'm tired, like I said, never saw the other than this this form. So I think, po, the law is a good for me, not are wrong for me, you know, and,

poor, I could get in the course in that way that I came out, it's very difficult to say. And it's kind of you're kind of,

he in a matalewan in-peer, was one of the first finalizations in the NFC was the second, the finalization the war in

the FCA, symbolic, one years before, you defend in your second, dispute and

Cunturon, this way to this form, how is it, how it was to extend your record of your record of the victories for interruption

as a representant of Jiu-Jitsu, a thing that you know, a question to be back in a lot of Jiu-Gitz and see the Jiu-Gitzs

exalting, N, the DEM, going to Twitter, the guy who was the guy of Jiu-Gi-Sid during much

time, to go-N-O-T-W-G-T, how is to do you to wince this form? Caring-G-D. D.M., all-N.,

all-N., I always said, the best of the officer is the guy that me must be able to respect to the world Shalbis is all the rickick,

but the guy of Jiu-Gitza is the Demy, no, there's no respect to the world by the Demyme and I'm saying

myologiening a lot, so just a gratitude to Demyan. And, boy, I'm happy too, a 11 years

after, I did the same finalization in Pair, in Mataelian, my friend and Scudder and then,

and then, now, now, now, to be the defense, I'm not, this sequence of victories for finalizations

and the most my friends always made various things know, it's Demi, Royce and I,

I'm, we, we're, we, we, if I'm am the next is the

Nate, there's seven, something so, so it's going to get to get

to get to come to the more and the more than the top of the world

as the great of the finalizations. So, the most We'll continue

doing a story, kebrening a record, augmenting our legado, making the things to happen. I'm a representative of the macagood

Tyn, the N.A. a representative of George Patino, Jiu-Git's, so, very much, to be exalting, yeah,

the jubisites of the Maki Goudtian more. Maneer, and after the Lott, you and the Porya

had been a relationship, after the Lut he conversing with you, in the October about talking about about the

doing about, you know, were 20, 000 dollars that he to do a to a institution of a

charity that you'd choose a this money, how is it, how is it will be able to the people

of Guarujah? This is a very good good, to be able to say, I don't know how it will

make this money, because we are talking to Brazil and the United, millions,

so millions of people me sending money, millions of people who people were sending a

message, people, I didn't pay the money, never , I didn't do you're doing the things with OFC here.

I just go and I'm going to go and I think I'm going to go back. So, so, the Dutch does the same thing that I, want to try to help the community, want to try to help the people, the people who are trying, to try and help us. And then in the middle of the conversation, we're telling him, and I'm doing a praise to him. So, oh, I want to help you,

also, this project that you do. And he made him to choose a project to me, to be able to destinate these $20,000. As I said, I didn't even yet, We still even conversed how he will be able to

when he will make this money so I'm going to start to my family I want to my family

to go to after I'm when he will make this money, see now, see the year, if the year

if the day when he will go and then I will send out and I will try to see the

I'm going to try to all the form to be to all the community and thank

God it's a money that I don't need a It's a money that will help to me

to help the people as people, how I've been helping, all the years, all the moments that I can. So I think

that's the most important this is the time. This is the when I came in Brazil to back,

I said to some people I wanted to do some different in Guarujah. I'd do a cesta

basic in all the communities of Guarujah and if this money get to Natal and

year new if this if this time before the time before the new, with with a certain

this will be very good because we're going to be able to do this to help, to be at the person to

at least a Christmas and a year of one new of 2021, pass it back, be able to have to be

something, have a lot of something, but again, I didn't get this money, I don't

say more to the Dush after the I don't know what how how will be going to

get, how can't make a message and pay me to me send me a message and begin help, because

the things will happen that's the way that can't be going to be. So, being a

hero, you know, you know, the bonus and there's a bonus, yeah, the onus,

when I'm something, like, oh, Charles, he's a life very suffered, and so,

so everyone has a very much and this moment, and this moment, everybody,

oh, Charles is a champion, Charles, me help here, yeah, yeah,

it's prime, it's, it's a boy, who comes to be the parent now, and it

appears of all the place of the world. The people who are not going to, like, to try out of sum, they're to pay money. It's people who are people who are doing people who are doing.

And what happens, the most tricky of everything that makes is that the people who really needability, they don't have all credibility. Because there's many

things that get in a we, that sometimes we can't even never, never, I'm a guy that I respond all of my fans.

But there there are things that I don't I look more that's the way of money, it's a lot of people who are people who are people asking the money, it's a lot of a car asking the sofa,

it's a guy who's asking money to buy a business basic, it's people for me to help pay the cost of the loose, I went to see $5,000. It was, fine, the guy, don't know, a lot?

How'd be it? How'd be this fide? And then, it's, where, $5,000, I mean, my God. So, it's much people who, you know, So it's, it's a little complicated, but it's part of this form that is.

Who knows, who knows, know what I'm doing, know what I'm doing, I do something that I need to be doing. There's things that I do, there's things that I don't need to be posting in the social, but there's good to post it to be able to help. So, so, it's a little complicated, but it does part.

With certainty. And the next step-in-lut, it seems to be a little certain, that is the Jason Gates. I'm telling, the Danoche not batte the martel in the collective, but

said that is what does the most he said the other he said, provoked, he said, he said, he said,

he went to the back of the back doors, he was to complimentar, he said that he said, what you're doing this

modality of his posture of him? and, you know, it's kind of complicated, we're talking,

because, what happens? The guy is the time all the time talking a lot of busterer, and the

when we were in front and the front of the front of the front, the the guy said, for me, for what I did, for what I did, for what I did, put it to be my car, that's the way to get to my car, that would say, I'd say, I think this hype of their willing to do it, is, is going to go ahead what they are.

I think of this. If you're a man, if you're a man, if you're a person, you have to be able to this form. If you're a guy who says a boss, you have to be in the lute, and say, boss the time in the time and the front and from the front, and we're talking about about MMA, he's talking about

about FC, this is who is very imprevisible. The Connor me called to fight, I said to him last this final of the week, we can't be able to fight, and I'm trying and talking about the media. Like I said to everyone, and I said to my employees, I just want to

do what I have to do here in the States and go back to my family, see my family, see the fans, I think this is more important, it's all the most I want, and then to make in the money, you'll see, who will let's, I'll want to, decide to when it's, what he's, what he's,

date at any day, that I will be done to try that. The other two of M.A, when encounter someone of the same division, or someone who can be in the future, an adversary, not just a encounter, no, the guy just

not look for him, you know, you look, look, the size of the car, if you , you can't the power of his hand of his, you can't, you can't, you, see the energy of the car, analyze for entire the

human that's in your front that can't be able to be this chance, when the Jason Gates after after after the period. What did you feel when you

when you stayed front to with him and he he's over the man of he's I'm thinking

I'm thinking I'm thinking in the moment to be able to have made a great story, augmented the

my name and people are people who know, Torsani, vibraning for me yeah the Dux

and Gates saying a lot of things like that and driving there, like talking about

I'm just I never think it was it or just to be to go back to come to

to come to my family my daughter, that I'm trying to like I'm a lot of salted. It's more important. He's a guy that has a good defense of quedders. It's been finalized,

by the Khabib. How is you, we're not long of the mandate of the but, analyzing the style of the lute, you have in your

mind a way that you gain of or this Charles, this version Charles champion that bat in peck that finalizes on the guy that where he

de a bobeer, you're getting to the guy. In reality, is, you know, these last two victories,

we've been preoccupating with what I can't go to get to the game to the game, you know,

that's that I'm never a way, you're doing that this way, not preoccupated if it's,

if it's, if the what the dashed that's, that I can't do to get to

the game, this is more important, a car a trocadone, a guy of Jiuits, a man,

a man, a lot of yeah, we're going to get to the cheese, uh, feel like

every more, much, gas, I think that's the more important of all the and in these

last four luts, you just were favorite with the Chandler and it's for a margin very small in the other

you were seen as far as as faron. You think after you do what you did the last last few

last few times this will finally move to the against the they're finally give to get to

the credit? The people who go to go to post it will finally do you

go to the car oh, oh, I think it's good to be a

Azarang. Many people get money, my fans get in the money, so, people are the

friends, all my fans, all making the message, mandating the post of the money, 20,000

dollars, 50,000 dollars, the Americans have posted in me, amos my of Brazil who were over 20,000

real, 10,000 dollars, it's good that everyone gain money, when they

disacredited of me, many people money, yeah, yeah, yeah, the year,

yeah, and the, money. So, this is more legal, uh, the people are the

people who are the people who are people who are here, come here, look at here, he's this. Oh, aposted a

and you, I'm going to the money, so that continue as a maran, that's a money, that's the,

got, gained, how much, get a , he didn't, say, he didn't, get to be a ballad in,

he, he posted with force, he posted in my finalization. Po, then it's

all the the process the job, so, then. Yeah, it's a way to

get a time. With a question, the last thing, the last thing about about the

time, you were in the way, you're going, you're getting, you got, you're able

to get the, you know, the, was a glit, me got a

ragged, a rations, our guys, me abacos when I went and when I did,

the guy, he pushed that he put him, he was, he took him the second is you've got

to be back of him and the oculus call it. So, but they didn't

see the the opus had to be the upper the upper or in the back of the guy or not the

foot of the guy. Grazdae no, he broke. I'm man, what's

that's a question. That's what important. No, is that's what important. It's all

all right. And then we're after this victory, you got to the U.S. The U.S. That's the

U.S. The U.S. N. You thought that was just this Or could have been a new

a general more than you? Yeah, car, of the grand champions, are great champions, they're all

respect to the world, yeah, po, I'm really, where I'm where I'm going to

know, a story, million years, po, you know, of all of all of all of all

to be able to play to be able, to be the category more difficult that's the fifth

in the world and the person to this is an important gigantic. This is important is gigantic, gigantic. So, I'm very happy, but for the way I posted,

we just all are in the point, right? Of all the time to happen to, we want to get to get to the top of this. So, we're going to try all the days to that this happens. You're a guy who's always traus a meta and these objectives, yeah? Ser number one, piece by per piece, is it a objective now, too? With a certain. I'm like, I said

in my first interview here in the UFC, my mom said that I pored up my name. When I I came here in the UFC, I said, I want to be a lion in the millions, I want to do you want to do you want to be a record so, with a champion,

now this champion doing, making a story, amending my little bit more something we can get to get to think,

oh, imagine, a man who's going to the community to the world, be the number one per piece, per person,

not is long right, you're number five, there's four people, there's a number to come back, with the

last, I was in Kulima here in podcast, he said that the focus was the porier,

but you had all the conditions that were the word of to go to the six and go to that

the centuron or to go to the seat and then you pass by your your head about your

back to make a six but I'm not in this last time this last time 15 days to the

I was really good to be the work we're doing with a water with a

water and in the analysis we deced to the six six if I had this

opportunity to look by the right to six six I would would be to look

and also if you had an opportunity direct of the 7-7, I'd also sub would be able to go to 1,000 more than to 7-7 now at this moment. Poor, you're to be a champion of two categories being a man,

and it would be a top-Brazil. And you posted on Instagram a selfie with a rapper Annuel. I don't know if you you've got to all of the comments in this photo everyone, no, no,

why you did this and so, because I don't know if you know, but this actor is famous and but he has a fan of being a kind of a vanguard, he's a lot

he posted a photo with Poria, he was, he was made, the girl, and he pergoy, he pergoy, so everyone who

took a photo with him, he's probably have to be a guy to have to be a bad with this maldition.

It's really, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, he's the guy

who meres due respect, it, of Jesus, the God that I serve, the God that I live for all the place to break this to war, record, that does it happen, not let's not to happen.

Millaried of people sending this to me. Lodg, we can't, we know, we know of the people, but, as well, I'm saying, the man who that's all the world that's going to be my mouth, it's called Jesus Christ, and in this we have to have to, have to

have to, have to thank you, who has to-adethers. For sure, and you mentioned, the Magrego, that tweeted, and he's defiant, and he's there, he's not, he's but he's he's confronted, but he

confronted, you said, you said, you know, the last month with him, if it was necessary, and you've been batted on the tequila that you're not, that you don't look for

a deal, you know, for the name marked in the books of the UFC, but we know that the granta of this lot is a grant

that would be a grant that would be generations and the life of your daughter life of your family, would

be a lot for a lot of a grego, this pass to your piece, this you you balance

the, the UFC to ask you, you want to you're going to you're going to you're going to until July

to a grueue to a great it's a thing that's a thing that's a man, man, if I had this opportunity to

talk about the corner, everyone all know, I would know, I'm going to be a champion the champion

the champion has a champion who Chalas Zorrived and Charles O'Roeuvre for money, I'd be able to be my stintrown is

my own tuesday, we're going to maintain our our legado and doing story. Logic, nobody is

bobo. No, I will not go to the car to my stature to do you. I'm going to

do you know, who going to do you know, if was before the signtour or I would go to the

thing, or I would go to the my son and what I want to that I'm my legate.

I'll forgets the champion has been name. He's my name. He's

my own, he's if I had the with Conor Conor, with the whole

I'm sure you don't know the category to have to have to be to be able to to be able to

so I don't have to do we have to we're going to think to be in our family, our children, on the whole

we're going to do you know, so you'd be a friend of Justin Gates there's your next adversary? Yeah,

then the big between them this happened to me, that's the number seven of Rangke, I wanted to

them, and they'd not really, we're part of the same organization, that's U.S. Who is U.S.

Who is the U.S. Who wants to put me, I've got, if they're to say that is the Conor, I will not want to, if he says if he's going to

I'll leth, I'll not go to then you're in that they're going to get to work to get to do that and let's go to get to get to my

little bit more and go back to do you know. Nothing more just. They think it's resolve between me to see

between the last question, to you liberate for you probably, you go to the house, before the after the fight there was in the

social, between the fans of the people who many people did the that Amanda Nunnish

said that would be to be her, a companyer of team of her in the ATT, contra you, many of the people think the

people have to get a unid and but she was, she was a friend of the guy, know, but she

got made with that many fans of the Brazilians have comemered the people have the

people who got of you, who got to she, and commemorting the commemoration the character of her

the character with her relation with the relation to poor, Yeah, I think much so,

I think so, I always I'm trying to the Brazilian this is this is, it's a, it's not

it's a lot, we're trying, uh, for the Brazilian, so I'm always,

I'm going to bring up the Brazilian, no, the guy train with her, these things,

things, I just think she, she should have been in her never, never,

thinking, thinking in this part that we're talking now here,

I think she'd to have been to be in her, call out, no, I'm saying, but she was very a woman, and to talk,

po, of the realade, I do you know the car all the time, then I'm gonna doce for the car. So, so, I'm comodod,

not me commod- because, as I said, because, as one is, every one, talk to-s for who can't doce, do you,

doce, do you, do you, have to, what you say, you have to be, you know, or my woman,

to secure the role of your role, and she she said, and she, and she paid what

what she said, no, it's, it's, it's , it's the way to the

fans, have caught on the on the time. Unfortunately, it's, that she proposed

to the lot, it's done the error, and the Juliana and the yeah,

she's, yeah, again, the new, so, God, and she, she can't

make a great battle, and could be to do whatever, that's

that's that's of the that's, but it, but it, not, no,

no, does all difference, no. For who she I'd keep her, I'd

have to try to be here, I'm complimented, I'm talking about I'm going to I'm going to the finia

of her. So, so, that God bless her. Much, so, mano,

thank you, thank you, much for your time for your future, the next your first future

that FC can't do you do this I'm going to hear some possible UFC Rio and

May, city marvellous, you know, the centeron here in Brazil, yeah, man. It would be a

good, thank you, it's good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ancius, but you

for your next one meeting, man. Thank you. De-vote to say, about the victory

of Charles Oliverer, the Charles O'Rons against Dens in a lot in a

new, Charles tested our question, took a subfoco in the subfoco

no subco than the suffolk that was a counter, but even a suffolk

who took knockdown, gave the first round in the hands in the Porye. But in the second round started to go to turn to the game,

he putt up back, passed the round entire entire in the guard of Porier. And in the

third round, he finished the count, you know, making a matalianian in FECC against the

Scrodeerroo. How is this mountain russia of emotions more one a chance to come

to Chalels in a battle to the time. You know, he said to ask

to him, he said car, Charlene, let's let me devalue. No, don't let us be apprehensive. Because before the

we'd be nervous. It's a lot of a lotta greatios. And then it's a pretty round, the, which clearly

was the Justin Poeher. As you said, it wasn't, no, was that that we've

lived over Michael Chandler, but it was a round of American leading a advantage in the

trocaation, the jab entrava, much a big big-or that the

Charles could disviable too. But the Charles I have the impression

that he he can start and the other the person,

you know, if you go, we're going to try, I know- I'm

the last last the last I'm when I thought I would finalize the so,

we're going to try. And then he said, well, there's another way, there's another way, but it's more guaranteed. And it was what he did in the second round. And then the second round, he was his own, the class of jiu-jitsu. He'd have a pull-a-and-all to just do cede.

To get a calliada, there's cost of Poyer. And then it's just a legria. Then the first round that we passed in suffolk, then the second round, said, no, we're talking, we're talking. and then the third round was really

a rift for me the thing the other was a little when he passed the second round entire practically

in the guard of this Porier and the guard is a fast he didn't he didn't do anything

he was I'm going to be contenting in he's to he not he passed

to me the record he said he was he he's just he's he's just

he's he's he's he's for the first round the Charles he's caught

and he's trying to get the brother he's he's he's he's

continued deitado and then he doesn't he's I'm going to let's go and we

want to go back to talk clearly the real he's also had also before the

lute yeah Diego Lema trainer of his he he

he Charles, and with the I don't quote him. Exactly. Not to say that he was wrong.

It's a thing, I started to see a a mudance now, finally, like I work for a website American,

I see much the type of commentary that we see on the tweets of the matters, the fans

now recognizing the job of the Charles, because he got got of many people,

the no Carlton in the Chautcharder in the last some the question

the question, no, the He said, P, he did against Michael

Chender, you question the questioner the questioner the question to be in a question of the he could be very

good, he would have been he never he was never round to make him to Michael Chander but he went to

and the Calchew in the second I think now, I'm going of the Duporier that's a

guy that has a much time, I think now, I think now the fan American comes to recognize

the Charles and give the due value to him. Yeah, with a lot

that is a divisor of the Charles, clearly he, at the right, he gained a

status that he even didn't have when he got him when he got him to be the

champion. He is the champion of the division, but he not had the

status in the world, and when the United has a world, the

United has the major the world, the UFC is there,

so he can't a status different from this is clear. He don't

he that he not won't of any one he won't the guy who went to a guy

who had been to a guy who had been a category of form interina a guy who's

a prokado go to the role and the guy who dispens commentaries the poirer

so so the chander or not was coming to belator um

a guy that was a woman in the second luta in the never had

had been opportunity to have the opportunity So you take also a little a piece of that victory after he wins,

because until he wins, Schengler was a lot. But, but, but, but, but, but,

clearly, it's a divisor to Agos to Chars. That good, it's a good, it's a guy that has 10 victories in a lot of, he has no

no question, I don't know more than the question, yeah, he's more, he needs to more,

but, but what, It's good that Charles could get to get this repunishment, and the next his next month

his last month, he's all a lot of he's going to have to prove the heart because the Jason Gates

if it's confirmed as a person that is a bad too, bat more more pesed

than the he could he's, Kevin Lee, or Tony Feregson, are all these adversaries that the charles

infanted in this sequence of in this series in UFC now, no PES

but it is a immortal, not a a guy that was knockoutiated, a guy who has been to very car the derotas of his derotas of his, how are you

see this look, is it more a lot that we're going to suffer? Or you think the Kabim showed the way against him, who is to bottom to be able to finish? I think there's much mystery, a lot that, for me, not have much mystery. It could be something like a Julianna did against Amanda, but

it's a lot that no-tere mystery. If Charles wanted to try with the Gates, in my view, he will be he will be in disfantage he can knock out because he

has been evolved clearly in a trocalation but not a trocaation that the gate has most

he wants to if he can do something for more more security put to

back back it's what the kabip did put to back and amass

and amassando until get not there not very for where to

to gore. I'm sure that he does that no, it's not there no, there's a demetit to avoid a try a crocation

with the second. It's got to get to be in the problem, because also, but I don't see how the gate out of this situation.

The Charles, he was a aron in three of the last four luts, in this sequence, there's clearly

the elite when the charles infranted the party Kevin Lee and before, and there were many others

the various adversaries that were in against the against, he was was a favorite and for much

little bit, against the three luts he was a aron. You think he into against the gate as a favorite?

After he got to get him a guy from Porre? Or you think he even has been much chance of him asarone in this lute. I still think it

a lot that for me he is the favorite. Now, as a way general, I think the

Gates still will enter with a favorite. I think he against the Conor, the Charges, has more chance

to be a favorite than the other the gate but I think it will be

the Justin Gates will have a little favoritism in this this house

of post and so to register the Chalis has been in the front and if

he gets a get a get a after Marachev Dariush Kono

it's just a pedrear man if Charles this guy this guy

this guy there there would put him he Anderson-Silva

John Jones are in these these heads because this division pesel levee my god my goodness

it's a way of the same the next the next three four he said those are very

those if the coroner not furs the final he's he's been he's tweeted he's

he's all malando no in the interview that I did in a little he said

he said he said fured the fire at the fire Now, if the guy want to be for the guy

I'm going to get a the guy's going to be if he's going to be when he's going to be going to be able to but if it's a question of the perna, I have certain that they're going to

do a chance to go to Charles against the the Polia, the Charles against the Magregoer and do you do, say, oh, Charles, he's going to vingar,

he'll be, create a narrative to do that to do that this lute to sign- and to

put a corner in front of him. And for me would it's very good,

so, very well, let the gait and will be talking, spurnying- and do this,

for doing that he's more six months, one, spren-a- and put him to-

to-lott- to- and the lot of the- -l-n- and the lot more

technically and technically I think to Charles, I think, I'm, I think that today

the Gaiton is a lot a lot more a lot more a lot of the Pono McGregor. Obviously

the Pono not use to anyone but I think technically it's a lot more more favorable

for Charles and financially then you say the lot of the money the lot to the lot to

get to the netto no minimum there in Guarroja with just to just to

the Charles left the possibility of part in the second the second

central, he said, seven would be possible, but that's maybe the best is the best of the

division that he's not he's not he thought, he thought he could be able to get this

piece, but he thought he would be a condition of to make the story like Amanda

Nunes did, like the Daniel Korme or Magrego the DC of category and get more

different of his others The question of Cerrodo, that's the second, the rest of the rest of the

whole of the world sub-you- think the Charles would be a question of to get a single of a

second-in-old more one another? If he could be the piece, I think he has been

a question for me is the more complicated in the situation, he could be able to

get the problem with a level of tolerance, he was a drama absurd and

it's very very interesting to look to look to look the time he did

he said, supplic, he did everything he could, for the F.C. to maintain him in

the PESO Pena, and then he was obligated to be in a PESLever. He is the champion of the

category, but I think if he could get the Pairs, like, as he

made a a job, really, of re-education of preparation, to, to de-Pen

to GAL, I think if the Chars could get in this this place of work and

be planning to this and to get a lot, I think he has a total condition of getting this title.

The Chalice 2020, 2021, is a guy that we can't dovidar. Exactly. No, Charles has got

a patamard is impressive so, the confidence that he entered in a lot, after all

after all he passed, and even the guy, and even, the guy no take to the

is it's a great it's a a good a bigadier it's a great

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