MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Charles do Bronx x Arman Tsarukyan: Primeiro Round

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

O UFC anunciou Charles do Bronx x Arman Tsarukyan para definir o próximo adversário de Islam Makhachev pelo cinturão dos leves, e o Trocação Franca recebe Diego Lima e Marcos Parrumpinha, treinadores que estarão em corneres opostos em Las Vegas, para destrinchar o combate. O podcast traz, ainda, uma homenagem ao lutador Diego Braga, morto esta semana no Rio de Janeiro. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC announced Charles Oliveira vs. Arman Tsarukyan for UFC 300, a No. 1 contender bout to determine who’s next for lightweight champion Islam Makhachev, and coaches Diego Lima and Marcos “Parrumpinha” daMatta break down both sides of the matchup. The podcast also features a tribute to veteran fighter and coach Diego Braga, father of PFL 2023 finalist Gabriel Braga, killed this week in Rio de Janeiro. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Procaceum Franca, your house about MMA in this immense border sphere. I'm Knaem-Kruis,

correspondent of the site American on M.M.A. Farrain, and I'm going to this month to

distrinched one of the last last the end of Armond Saruquian, agendated

by F.C. 300 in April. And for this, I receive Diego Lima and Marcos

Parumpinin Trinators of Shootbox and America Top Team are in coroner's opposites in Las Vegas. But, before I start the podcast, I would like to dedicate to all the friends and familyaries of Diego Braga,

veteran of MMA, that was assassinated in the end of this month in New York, but a victim of this war absurd and insane that we live diarately here in the Rio. And I'd just to mention a little bit of an interview that I did with him in 2019, when he was all happy,

and he was preparing to look in the same card of the filial Gabriel Braga in the future in MMA. Gabriel had appointed as one of the great promise of the sport and he was shown in the year ago,

that was all the world in the end uproo on the final of the PES of P& of the PFL. Lack in 2019, the Diego was all full of and I'mgooose

of the MMA. You're going to do that's a lot after attention, the same thing, it's no more than

after I'm doing my first, but it's been good for caro for doing in a lot in a event of this

I'm at in the same card than my father, so, man, it's being

a, poor, one of me, I'm just really, I'm gonna be able to

get to be a manned, yeah, I'm gonna put, I'm gonna put, I'm gonna

put, I'm gonna be able to so, so in July, it's certain,

you're so, you're gonna say, I'm, poor, sensational, oh,

manavilo, man, it's been it's been be good for carack, my I'm, oh, I have

to be in the event, my son I would have been my film in the day of my a little bit of a lot, the same car, I said that my son, you know, many times I'd love many times in my corner, for me,

it's been, porth, it's been a, wonderful, it's being a, dream that I'm realizing also, man, form of another. So, this is that me inspired, I'm again,

my son, the girlada that I'm training here, of my team. Today I did the camp of my training with the Tropa Taibra, with my

brother, my brother, I'm doing my allunus that I train at all the day, I did,

I did, I did the camp with him, so it's being an inspirator for carly for me,

car to be for me, it's a greatificant of my son, and I'm there's a important to

to accompany the career of his. I'm I'm came to the year, I'm 26

years, I'm the day and the time, he started he's going to

he's a man who he's a man who he's a many, various, various vestiaes

with me always a thing to we're going to let me divide this adrenaline together

this time he said, he said, he said, poor, car, this lot, car,

this lot of it's difficult, car, not it's a lot something very complex, it's a much thing

involved, it's emotion involved, it's training involved it, car, it is a perda of of the pain, involved, and in the time, as it was more difficult,

I said, well, I never never had anyone to me to support, you, you never came to say, but, man, say, oh, car, I never will care to trypaling your son, so that you

want, so, that's what you did 18 years, he, he zimed by the portele, you saw, he, went paraquegist, there, he was a parakegist, there, and they were

conversing with me. I said, oh, I want to be a thought, oh, but try to reconcile all,

no, I want to be to do not, I want to want to live this, I don't to be in

not to get to get to it. It's a mannero, and it is a

great, I'm a practice, I'm also, I'm not that's the life

for the life of but, I'm feel, I'm sorry, I'm going to

be he's going to continue the career, to see the moment now the

MMEA, is much better than than the time and I'm going to talk with him always with him and I'm

trying to make more than you never fess for me let me. Let me talk the barcoe on Trocaceau Franka

coming by the interview with Diego Lima leader of Chutebox Trinador of Charles of Bromps

see here. The other other side there's been Diego Lima leader of Shute Box in

South Paulo and now also also thank thank you thank you about this

about this new about this Yeah, there's much to do now have to podcast, the Ked Talk.

How's how you're this project, this new idea? Oh, Glemy, it's a pleasure

to talk about with you. It's a time that we're having to keep the time, I'm going to ask you

have done many of the lot of the year, this year, we've got a million too, but

it's a new project, but in the reality, but in all everything, we're doing the institute

here, we're all the athletes amateurs, so the So I think it was a idea that that's a new thing that's talking to the protesters,

not just of our team, but in all the teams, for that your fans can't know them better. And at least I want to also bring people to football,

the basketball, the basketball, the basketball, the basketball, the basketball, at least, at least, at the same time, sportsists

of different areas, the first podcast we trained with Demia, with Mike, with Charles, three monsters there, out of the Jiu-Gi

and now I want to try to make sure the basketball with a, an Olympic, with the basketball, I want to try

to make a scler all of the sports there. For the M. M.MA, out of the sports of combat.

Who is the guy that's would you would have to have a man? Ah, there are many,

some guys, that I'm fans who are good, I'd like to say, all the football, Paul,

Joe Berth of the Cerex of the Brazilian, I'm a great fan of him,

I'm a friend of he train with a guy, so I'm to know to know to know,

and for him and for the example that a guy in the alge, but unfortunately,

even everyone can't even all of the guy, you know, he's a guy of his character he's a guy he'll be,

he'll be a talk to him, to learn to him, to learn with him too. For sure, and, talking to Lutta,

yeah, car, just said, you know, that's the first of the principal athlete,

there, he, will be front the Armante Sarukh, he's in the UFC 300 in April,

many of the we'd I'd expect of, po, dispute of this centuron, what would happen? The night came to announce to say the Ushamarachev he's been a little leisone, that not could

pick a lot now? How did it be a novel to get a novel to be able to get to Sarukian in the FC 300? Man, in the fact, it was very long long as, it's always very solicitor to with us, I always say it's

it's a very good with them, not only me, but all to us here. So, so, that's what that's an absurd, it's what happened

what happened to fulano, with this plan, but in the truth, that's not that's not

of this. We never accept us a lot of our own because we were forced us we're not,

we've been we've got no way we've got we've got that's, it's a whole world,

everyone, everyone want to come and all sometimes I see people who are saying,

so I'm, you're saying, so it's it's a question, so it's complicated with the pinno pramato that he cameo. But,

but I particularly, our team, we don't have to say, to say, always very respectful with us, and in the reality they've got

with some, with some, with some ideas in the case, and then we talked about the those so, it was

so, it was all so much to be sincere, a thing, a thing of a time, we've talked,

we've been talking, got to be a martel. Chivu'aa with Marajev before of him

He needs a time to be prepared. So, in any way, the McAtejave will be able to do to do next. So, then, as much more than my head in my head. Belea, semester that's coming. But generally, the Macatheva, I'll go in Dubai. So what happens? If for a semester that came, who's going to be able to be in August and not direct in October?

If he were to do not in October, if he were going to be able to be in October, if he was going to be able to be? There's another thing. There's another thing, po, who, who, who is not remembered. So if Charles, for a case, we say,

we're going to do to try, we'll let's try, we're going to make a lot of this Armagnan, this Armagnan, is it's coming very good, he's a sequence very good of victory,

and then it's a little victory, and then, and then, for example, the UFC of the most name, it's a son-o-d-o-taheat-C-300, so we don't know-tom-tom-t we'll put that, we'll put that he-lute with

Puri, and we'll putt put him, poe, put, me to knock-eck-eckon-eckon-eckon-e what would say, but let's put a knackaltone who makes a knockouton, who who makes who he can't

be a lot of you know, because imagine, the guy's living in a sequence a boy, the guy made a year in the past

you know, there's a good a bit in in the same there, he does a put, he does a little bit of

the gate there, and it's a year, we're going to get a year, and happens about a catheva,

happens to happen, he does a lot alucin against the court against the word in August, he does a lot of And then, then, then we have more to do you,

put him with the Macchever. Or, then, Bumba, we'll have to negotiate him, the Chardes, then. So, in a Mbada, this, so, much thing could happen. So we have to have to be in a way, we have to think of the best

a better way, you know? Along the Chalds, not could be able to get much time without, without, we're not, we're not, we're going to get risks, you,

so, you know? So, you know, so, we had to do make a lot of the to make sure, to be able to really is, is waiting

and are ready with a Kachev, but at the same we don't could pick a one, we can't get a guy to get a

a guy, take a guy, we can't get to get the people, you know, so you know, Armena was the main, the

was the first that was a lot was a lot of negotiated, she got very much of this lot,

the Charles is a guy who, he, he, he accompanies, he, he'd be a doorality he'd be, the charles

goes to the of the In the last few people, if you see the career of Charles, the career of the Charses is in the reality. He's allotkin gigante, so he looked with a huge number of the categories, so in the world of the United. You know, so I'm not going to be the If I was, if I was been in gone to be in charge,

he doesn't get more participation in for not not being a champion. Exactly. PPVU

are the champions, but it's what I always say, I don't enter in detail of

negotiation, but was excellent for us. It was compensated was compensated. It's got

you, you know, you've got to ask for C to be in May, in May, that not

not been not been to the day 4 of May the F.C. in January.

You've thought, P, 13th of April, 4 of May, there's a minute,

the time, and we're going to for a lot of in the Brazil, not of the future. To try this talk about the

UFC about it about this or at the idea? We're not we're thinking we're saying, we're going

to be the thing, but it would be too to tryles to be in the center in the event, in the

Brazil, I think it would be a matter, but there some things in the same thing, the

F.C. in May in Brazil, but not the certainty. And we know that Brazil is a cache of surprise. So, so it happens to

this lot, we don't happen to do a lot of a new FC. 300, which is an event grandiosu.

We know that the most of the FCs are the 20, 300. So, so, so,

so, so, so, we can have a opportunity, so, we can be participate

between the three more events of the world, in the story of the F. That is the

300 and in the certainty the certainty of May. So, we've had to get in the certain.

So we don't have too anything that's really a son to be in Brazil, we're going to be able to make a sign

in the Brazil, it's a moral son of Charles, you know? So if God, and it's all all right,

we'll, put, to bring this victory to VC 300. The UFC will be a gigante,

we know for the repercussion is a thing, it's a thing, no,

there, if God, we're there, recuperates that the centurion, and who

know how many the year of the year and the first of the first of the first of the year,

this would be a world perfect. You know, or conversed to the UFC, trying to

Kavak, that's the countering was for a trurop because, for much that

the Marhitev is a guy that is a other, at three times in a year,

it's, as he massed now, it's been possible, not, not would

not be a surprise if he would he'd would be in October, so it would be a year and you'd say,

so the case the interino here, there's we'll unify, more a centuron, more a vendor of Pepperville. Yes, yes, we're going to

talk about, but I don't see exactly the politics, that they use for an interino, no, I believe that maybe would be so, but then it would be a man, and, like,

for us, it would be perfect, would be a marvelous, would, it would be a great to be a lot, but then, but then, at the same time,

there's a campaign a Macchever, it's, it's, the championemem it's a grander, gained the Makachiev. So,

so, so as if there is the interino, because, as the car, is the the centuron, a certain

is a certain to be in the seat at the cartel, you know, so in the matter, the interino, nothing more

more than the other than the man, the crown, it's a maratheuron, it's a maratheb you're going to be a foreign

a year, I think, with a certain I'd have to be a interino, but he's but, but, but, will be that,

you know, to put a month, then, two days in the year. So it's more the little to the champion. So I don't know what is the

head of them. I don't know because they're talking about there's not so for it really not is the interino.

And you will know, this is a lot of the F.C. It's not a way that they don't know to the size of

that they're the number one of the world, because they are very intelligent. Fale me or fally well, but they

are the men, but they're the people still even, I don't see even even, I don't say even but I'm

I want to say that there are many to finish to finish. As well, we need to get more a ceresia in a bowl here.

They don't finish up. I don't have a bigot. But the Edward and Bilal not won't

not really? So, I'm going to do you know, the deal with but I think it is a lot that's not

was an lot that probably will probably go but not no, I don't see if there's a

money and for FCC 300 in this lot. I think I think I think the Charnes

would be a piece car. I think the The guy, I think it's the fourth or the fifth, the most-segid, I think really is a guy that,

let me, let's see, it's a machine of success, of the money, so I think, if they're, for certain,

they're going to be made to be able to define. You're going to do you, you're going to be a centuron of official, in the next lute,

because the Danawatt when I announced this, but then, the anointe manned who can get this but we're

many times, it's an announced, but that there's not no happens. You're not confident that you're not. But I think it happens when happens when there's

something like the same for example. Well, but then, because you don't expect the Charnes?

For this the reason why we'd be in Dubai, but the Charle he's got into unfortunately. So, the Charle so we

got to happen for that opportunity. And now unfortunately Magatheb's so much, so much, so the time

so you're so much, so you know, so you know, so you know, so you said, he said, the last,

then he said, the last. I don't have to say, with me, I'm going to say, we don't have a, I don't see the negotiation of the person who I'm saying,

ah, but me I'm going to make it, I'm not in the negotiation. But with the other, the other, but with the UFC always

was very honest. And how is you see the Maracheb talking to go to get the head,

you think it exists that there's a risk of there, let us, let's get to let him, let him,

let him until he would go out, he can invent something and not defend the centuron,

try to try to It's like, I don't cause a polemicca. I don't want, because, car, the Bacchava is sinister, no, I'm at all the champion. You know, the guy is very good. There's all the merits of the world of his.

But I think it's visible that he's not going to talk show and he's always. He's trying to say to say the soul of all the way. It's more than it. Not all those merescing him, that's very clear

this here, okay, but, but I, but I think he's talking all this, I prefer to pull and, I prefer, you know, I'm going to study the category, I don't think, sincerely, nothing of this will happen. I think that really,

the champion of this Luta will not have to make up to do. I don't have to do, because then he would have to be the arm of the centurion to, you know, you know, so I believe that there's where to gore, I believe that will be this fight, I don't have to be. No, it's just if you look at the

last six-lutte, look at the Porye, or the last six-lut of Dari-lush, it, no-te-you-n't-you-ckel. You know, it's the chance. You know, it's the Charles. You know, it's the chance. And, and, in my opinion, it's a lot he's not that he doesn't care of this

lot with Charles, because not dismercending I'm going to say, I'm saying, I'm going to be a charge in that night not going to enter in Meds,

here, all the whole all the world see it, unfortunately there not was the day of Charles, the night of Charis,

was the night of the Macachev and if he'd do that again, I have a certain that will be another lot. It's that

is an excellent lotator, no have to questionar but he defended the centuron two times against a piece of

Volcanoves, obviously. It was a penna, an excellent lotator. Exactly. The guy pego in the same the hour and all. De Nogueauvin, also,

pick, a excellent lot, but not the guy of category, right, if the Marchev says, no, I don't want to final the Charles because I've got

him in front of the Gays. Beleason, you can't even talk about a thing in this sense. But to say, oh, I'm,

I'm saying, so, so, then you're saying the category, defend the centuron first, and then you And then,

you say, and you'll do something something different, no. For the same. And so,

not from a cativa about, I'm going to the Armagnan, the American after he said the American,

I, po, I'm a signet the because I get a Darius because I

think that nobody was, it's a difference much great of moments. What I

want to say to have a word, but it's a very champion is the

one is the country that's that's that's the Why I'm talking this?

You're to look with a guy and wince a guy, depending on the moment of the

guy. So, so, the Charles, he cated the Dariush in the very moment

of Darius. And the Darius cated the worst moment of Charles. What I I mean? The Darius

was in a sequence of, I don't know, I remember again, 10 victories, 10 victories and he

was animated, and he was animated, he was an same, with a good, and the And,

and say, I got this longed this conturion. He was in the most motivation of the motivation of the

life of his. The Charles was coming to, unfortunately, a reverse, he was going to be able to

get a signoron, you know, contra the man who's coming to bang and to get to

the caris he pared a machine, you know, vinted of a reverse. The Armenian, no.

The Armaino unfortunately picked a Dariush, you know, car, macho, Vinded

Reefest, a Darius that was in a Ruech who had been seen, he'd have not be able to the sturtain,

you'd have to be a more victories, you know, a Rewske, he'd had been

been caught in a round, you know, so he'd so he'd so he'd so, he'd be

dishe'd and then after he was gloriaean in the victory, he's right, he's

he's beenceal, I'm not I'm talking about, but I'm saying, but I'm things,

you know, some moments are moments many different. The Charles enfented all the top

five in the those two those two those are the only to see the so you know, even though he

said it's unfortunately because I know the but he was he got him in the Alge he got him he was five

minutes and was all the rounds of presson all the rounds gained all right you get all right

so all right all right all the world all the world coming to victory all the world vows of

centurial, you know, that we know, we know, that we're a other anim, it's another motivation. So I think it's very important to make this comparison in the words of Armenian. Certainly. And how is you think, that's the game between him and the guy, who's a lot of

complete, it's very hard, you think it's more danger, in what area, how can you see this style of movement? He goes to He comes to much shangler, right? He is very explosive, he is very strong, very explosive. He pegs much better right over the right, he has a great impound, very good.

He is more bad. So, it's a kind of a problem of the game of a little bit

about the game of course we're doing still. I can't be able to you know, I can't

be very recent. So, he's a car very very versatile. The Charles he

was a job, he was a ground, he was a good, in all the areas.

He's is a world, he's not a constant of evolution. He's he's in

a world, a evolution spiritual, the child, he's he's very well he's better he's better he's always

he's always he's really very animated I'm really animated I'm really I'm really because when we said

when I said when I said when I was gonna he's so impugated so you know he started to learn no new before yeah

when we started when we started to talk about and then we're just talking about in a house of his he trained on day

31 he turned he turned on so really really is a other Charles very animated, I was a time when I've seen,

I'm very very happy with the success of the victory. You know, because the Charles motivated, the Charles,

is trained, is the Charles imparable, so, so, the guy is very dangerous, the guy bathe a force,

he has a very explosive, bot a bit to be back back to the ground and a great end up a pound, very aggressive,

but the Charles, he is very complete, he has very invergatured, he jogging in the long,

he jogs bad in the carless the chars can't the world he's a phenomenal

you know, you know, those trains different in the Charles in the next days, you will see

some other those partners new new to train in Charles so that's that's being there porr, you know,

to add up more, he's a cop Yangieri, is a man, yeah, but it's

another pence, I'm sure, but I'm a man who also that also has a

a vivorance a very good, a guy that's a good, a vision of other things and other partners of

that you're going to see a lot of you're trying. So really so the expectations are the best possible. And you can't

some newities of the we're doing good trying to be happy that's a lot I'm trying to do certain, if all right, so it's all right, the Mika will be

taking a train-on with the chardes, Poh, Vika Galvon has a, one, a chown phenomenal. The guy has

a, poor, four, I'm a, I'm a great fan of his, great fan of his, his father of his

guy he's a man he's a word, I want so I want to really that they train in

together, it's much a lot of a lot of a lot of we'll make a great, let's make a

great-and- this victory in all the areas. This not a lot of not the

proctor syndrome so it has not five rounds but we see in cases specific like

for example the Densippe with Beno Arsandelli will be five round

even not not being not not been they've thought about this and propose

five rounds or for you don't have a lot there's a not for nothing. No, but I think

it's a little the bril of the ring, I think the thing they have many things different. The signet

has four quarters. The signoron has two parts in the hotel. The signetro is a lot of

different. So I think it's the ring of the sturon are five rounds. So I think that

all this is the brill of you can get the so sure so certainly you don't see the

no reason, no no reason, no rounds. For the matter that we see that I was using

the charles the majority not not over the point, the majority are the first and the second

round. Manor, even for this I think really, I think, I think it's three.

Uh-huh. You said, Paul, Nene, we've said, about a thing, about the

money, and they're in the post, partials, all the last one saying, as a zaron,

is a something that is a great to present you, you know, you know, you know,

you know, the charles, will be He will continue doubting, yeah? It's good for our fans, of the fans, because they're apostas

in the charts. So, for us it's very important, man, for the more Zerber, he's more, I don't understand

how many people have some people if the person who's there's a lot, if the same perfis, I think, but for us,

for us, the fans of Charles who go to do their people, they're doing, and they're going to be

feel free. If you were if you were to, if the charge how? This is very difficult to to say always,

but I believe in the knockoutts of Shards. And talking about the other name that you said it was about the

year of going to be to the country to make the camp of his against J.F. Neal,

the lot of the last year the year, the year, the guy trying to for you,

unfortunately a book that no role, yeah, the the lot of the

with the the fight with the how is the guy, how is the guy

the guy difficult in the media social, because a bunch of people that's a matter

and defecca by the book, but he's a character example, the family of his

family wonderful. Like, you know, us received very, we're not, we're

we're not because I did it, because I went in the house of the group of Vicent

Look there's right, you know, now we're we're we're in the

United, he, bomb, the Ala, so, a family very educated, a

very So, like, they have a heart Gigante. Yangar is a very family. You see,

car, the love, the carine that he has for the family, and he's been a pausown, Pauson,

Pauson, it's a good and he's a team of the car, he brings with the other day, he came here

just to help him a mother to get to some details of this of that so he's

a guy, a guy, he's really I'm going to say to you know, he's a guy, he

he's a good, he he's shot him well, he's not He's a resultator. He's one of the world. He's not a moment. He's not an hour event of the world. He's invict. So, it's, of logic. It's, of course that he's all car being.

So, you know, it's important. I think I'll say the qualities that maybe the people don't know. He's a guy legal for a caram. It's a guy family for a caram. It's a guy very very mild. So, so, I sincerely, I don't have a, I'm a lot to say to him negative, just with things positive. And, talking of the train, is the guy

that's a guy that accretentat, he's a lot, he's very, he's very intelligent. You think the question of time for him to become a champion of the fceo? With certainty. And I think they're in this. I think it's allot,

it's allotism, but I think that this last card, to put it just to you start to see, after the last

the lot came, he not would be a lot of the whole world in the conference, he was in the club, he was to

he was in the book of Edwards, he was in he was in he didn't not want to he was in the

guy of the guy the guy the guy is good, so I think so I think so it's

right. In the 2024, we're with two centurons. You said you said the Colby, you as a

leader of a team very respectful, in the actions, in the words, all the

world of the chute-box there, can do a provocation here, but it everyone

into a level of respect with the adversaries and how you as you, how you,

as the coach, see, the attitude of Colby, not so for William Garry, but for

everyone, for but the posture of him as a actor, if you if you'd

have a an athlete your of a shoot box acting when he was in the after this

battle against the other after the time, he still insisting on the stations of his

car I think he's a very for me he's a very for me he

is a I think to do he has to do I think he can't you know

I think he he overpast all the limits you you say you say

about a person fallacy I I think you I think it's very bad character.

You know, it's a very bad character. Inclusive, I think it's not the proper efficiency, not prohibit a crystal with a way of the way.

It's important, it's very much. But I think it's that all the way, it's a to- that he respect, what, it's good and conserves

the dents. It's not it is good, he goes, go, and he'll be, and he'll be, and he comes and

and he, and he, and the guy, and he, and the guy that's, I think, I think,

I think we actually attract that we he's just he's just he's just he's just

he's over he's over he's just over so he he's over he's over so you know so you can't

he passed in the front of he's like he must have been he's he'll get he perj he's fair and

you go to look at one he's horrible man the guy man he's at poor he's no can't even to say

man you're no talk about you know you're so you know you're so you know, because? Because, I think he

says he says a matter, the responsibility his time, he's got to be the role of the other than he there's a pressure

of the lute, you know, he still, he still, he still, then the game of the game not say, you know,

so the guys want to invental, the guys want to do that's talk so that's so that's juster a little, so, for me,

the definition of his is a vergonia, you know, what he does is very feo, man, he's very,

he goes, and he, he, It's a guy who I don't I never even I don't even I don't prefer to never

never say I'm not I'm gonna even yeah, but just to just to finish you have a agenda

in the UFC in this year there's a panita piano there's a Mioiole Detona in Mexico

there has been the poros Willie Ketch is with many people there's there's

there on the year in the year yeah what is what is the

thing for the guys all right these guys all all over also

the chitbox, every every way, you're going to the FEC, how it's the expectation for the

time in the other events too, not the other events, too, not. The other people are the

front is that more than the more than the thing, the most times are criticated, and I

feel like, yeah, that's the time, I'm not, you know, I've seen on the

social, and there people, who had people, and I'm, I'm feeling that means,

we're doing, because it's a lot of, so, so you know, so you imagine nobody

to say to nobody to say, anyone, it's not you know, so I'm really good,

I'm very really good, we're going to get into the year and we're many years, we've got to many lesions,

but we had a lot of a lot of you know, so, if you had a lot of today,

we're still we're still we're still we're, so when if two, three, it's,

well, it's, no, no, it's, if we're, if we're , if we

say, if we say, if we say, each one, of two to three days per year.

We're doing between 22 and 33 Lutas. So, car, the 22 to 33 Lutas

Carta, Carta Mets, you know, so the puttie Luttee Coupes, Catero box,

guys, did you do you, do you know, so I'm trying so it, so it's normal, it's normal, and back

a little if we'd if we'd be 25 not over, it's, because, unfortunately,

the lot of the lususus, it real. And how times we not have of lesionados. The Liquette

streed was a legionado. You know, that we'll not be talking because I think horrible when the lotator

the lot, he'll offer in say, ah, I'm ashamed, oh, I'm I'm just a bad, but I'm a ball

to get a legionate. You know? So, but many times, not only I, all I, know,

everyone in the people of all the lot, know, so you know, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, it's, Tess critiques, are normal, but I'm very happy with what we're conquisting, much felon what's happening, many of those are going, many

the lot of us are going. This year, I'm creditor, I think, I think we'll make, maybe, almost, unsinked a lot of an organization, I believe much, so, so, so if God's ever, I'd, I'd just want to announce to those two nobs.

Mania, Camarada, thank you, Mark, for your time, there. Boas sorts, in these possible compromises. The agenda is full, and that will be many victories. I thank you. I thank you for bat,

pap, thank you. We're doing let's see if we'll make some some of the other more than we have seen

we know how the fcone, mihoja, polianna, the charge, and Gary, we've got six luts

marked for the first months. So, there's been enough to finish, we're going to get a

working on a lot of social, I'll be see if you love the doctor when I

think I think they're going to go ahead. The pen is going to to be, you know, but let's see the

bishops, can say in the arm really, and he'll see if he's, if he's going to going to go and he's going going to be,

to be going to the other. Let me see if the beast is for the end up. Who knows, a lot of a little bit for

a new thing. Now, we will talk about Marks Parumpin coach of America Top Team, that said, not so,

the lot of the Lottott and Sharnes, but also the desire of Maira Chittara Bueno Silva, that in this

Saturday in this Saturday, the stotot of the FEC, and the Antoja, the pillo of his period of him during a long time

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or visit comexeario. com. On the other side we're just the Marksparrumbina, welcome to podcast, car, how is it's been a expectationation this year, now, car,

after the year past, spectacular of the signturbos, it's a year,

it's a year, with a agenda chet, more first, a honor to be in the first

never came in the podcast and, porr, I was, I was, saying, I'm going to

be invited, I'm never, I'm going to be invited, but I didn't,

so, boy, thank, but, I'm trying he was getting the money to

to pay the And really, In the past, it was marvelous car, it was the best year professionally

for me in my life, various conquists very significant particularly, particularly,

the, the centuron of Pantorgia, that was a guy that is special for me, in,

for our story with him, I with him, the title of Magomede of Margot Morgheim remove no PFL,

you know, the Chabli, he's getting in the final of Belator, the Chittara, going to

the centuron now, the same the same the way, uh, making, porna,

bonito to a carame, unfortunately now, in, in, in, a rote of

collison with our our friend, amado, idol, because I'm all this of him,

the Charles, So, professionally was excellent. The expectation of coming up withsend of 2004, car, are the best of if God,

if God, if God, we're doing, we're doing, she did a camp wonderful, car,

it's in the point of the cask, is ready to, not just physically, as mentally, and mentally,

to be championing the FC, uh, a Mayeroboena Shittara. So, the expectative

is, it's a better, the Mofari Vloev, you, opening the Paperview

against Warner Allen. We know that's a lot of a lot of a lot of Morofero

is more a more than the lot of the lot of he's going to

he's not the top With with to start, about what for the

what to be, what to be it's been been more special for you, we've been to know it for you know

a lot of the time, and you know, and you know, he, a guy, like, a place

a place to be a question, and how it for you, after the years, working with

him, and he, he, and he, see, the car, to, the cintrom,

definitely. P, he, he, he, he, he, past

and defended now in December and just of you say I'm I'm afraid

because it's really a one an emotion man a much too

it's difficult to explain because I'm a guy I'm in this sport for much

time I'm I'm I'm since 1998 doing core

from from from Brazil in the top team then America is

and it's a hard, you know, guys who are you're working, you're probably who's in this sport too

for you work and you see how it's a hard, you can't and get, and get to a trainer

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a lot in this, more of 20 years, in this

this pegada there, and there, there's a guy like the guy like the really,

he really, he's he's he who he's he he was, he

he was he was coming to derota for Dusin Ortiz there in Boston. And I coincidentally, I was there also with Tibal. And he

he perde this lot. And, car. And it's a thing of God. We don't explain, you, man. Poor, the same

the neighborhood, he is of Copacabana, I'm, born, I've been, I've been, lived in Copacabana, yeah,

we never never saw, because we're generations different, yeah, car. P,

we're going to us to know us to know personally in the UFC Boston and consequently

then we're going to our relationship in Florida so we have been in this work

in this work with many the and I always I always I always

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm my first champion.

God not Kish. He was going. He was going a lot, we know,

we know, the first round, the man me give a little bit of a little and a

game. Pass a year after a we went to a revenge with

Jain. In my opinion, he gained a lot, did him to Rheamain. But one

one of a bit he gotteo on the trave. But, but in the time

I'm deprimed, I'm afraid I'm pretty putt, you know? But the life

ensina a lot various things, yeah, car. When I was in

the ambulance, going to the hospital just I and Pantoja he, he's all fudited

with a cinturon there, Gilaerbe, I'm arrepeated to know, there,

in that I could understand the why I don't I'm didn't why I'm

the It was to be. The Pantoja, by our story, all the all that we passed through the was to be the

Pantos of my first champion of the F. So, all it cleario. I began to understand because the

my sentiments there were in Piriyan. And it was to be. Because the Pirian,

not was a man, who is my oldunno, he came, in the United Top Team

to do Kemp with us, and with the people, but he because he wanted to

he would be a guy that's always my alum, not a guy that had a person with a

person to be a new year, but not not a guy special, a pantos so, so,

then I always, I always, I'm, I'm, after we know, and this is

a record for everyone, I'm don't want to come here, I'm doing to give

a lesson of much less to not teach to people. But I talk to you know

to the way, as we're not we're not things, we're doing in moments difficult,

deceptions, trestice, we don't understand. Lain, you will understand because

God will to be to be a God, I think in God, there's a question,

but I, we, we looked, and we look, and we, and all, it's to be the pantosh,

you know, so I'm in this question, I'm sorry, I'm going to, but I'm going to tell this, it's a lot of

it's a lot of moment I'm feeling emotional for talking about this, car, it's an emotion, like,

an impar, and it's a story of superation of him, because maybe after he entered

in the FC always made the but there moments of difficulty like, for example in the

pandemic, that had the area of the we were in he was a lot of the carov that was not

bad, he did a lot of a lot of and that could be kind of kind of

the end up the centeron uh the division was even a uncertainty

but he was he could do the walk for the year yeah

well you you, you saw you you saw you You know, we've

to have to have to go to work two hours of the man. Pantoj of a guy who should have to get to work

to work out two hours of the morning to get to get in the same and six hours. Oh, the thing.

He didn't get used to get to the right, we don't that's not this, because it's doing

the excuse, but in no, in the case, you were there, you were to be,

I don't want to I'm not I'm going to work, I'm just for a last a

last a month we went to It was a Mired, the day day was a horroros, it was a

time, it's, it was really to be very bad, I'm, I'd be stressed out of my head, imagine to the guy who'd have to

get to get in a porth of all this, not, and I'm, and it's, you know, many people,

don't know, that's, you know, because we're talking about in that time in that time, I'm in

the first coach of the UFC to get COVID, and I'm probably not I'm not the LottonD

Ribbass , remember, that it were three events, it was Saturday, was Saturday, and I was, I came, I came,

before the Lutta of Amandia, but there was that I don't have a corna of Amanda, right? The Marcelo was coming in

FaceTime, until the figure, the figure, he said, oh, there's, you can't,

you can't do you, I don't do you can't do the cord of Mandia. And in that event,

it was, on the quarter was the Armand, and on the Saturday was the Pantosja,

So, more one story I almost not went I'm going the first year,

when the Panthor was in Vegas I said I'm going to get I'm going relaxer,

he was relaxer because we had together so it was like you said, it's a

thing a thing a very turbulent in that in that little in that

the little after never a a guy champion of Rising,

the Manel Cap, and we're just after the Ascarov and I'd a manel cap a manal a mano

a man who extremely talentedos vending to be a champion the guy who who not had rank

any one and he got it got to a top five so so

many difficulties then there came a lot of the

brandon Roveal the guy without the man working

with Uber refried, was there and finalized the we're in the fight of Roeval

the UFC mark the taro shot of the pantor I'm going to go to go to now to

operate the he's he demora more one to work back back, Ngo-Dal

Alex Perez that was an guy who is extremely D'Uro yeah getting the Gando the

Gando frommiro a man He's a partner of training our He goes He'll finalize the car in one minute It's like

It was a Like it was It was a A via cruis Yeah And I'm I'll say to You know

If you If you For you For the You can't The only Campeg All right

Tyroote D'Rey Jons But the Pantosca Lut with almost

All-Mundo the rank He got almost All-M to get to Taroj

Chott You I know, and Nego I want to say, that's a-se-ke-le-chot, Mokaneu-Cap, and, poor, man, don't know,

no, no, it's, because I know what the Pantorja had to do to get to get to-Torchon. These guys didn't do any

a third of what the Pantorja has made. So, it's to gulgary a little, you know, to make sure.

All right that's the winner the winner with Amir albaze to to the title of the centuron, and the contort, or maybe in this event

is being designed to the Rydde January in May. Part of you tors for the Albaise to gain to be, to be a moment

to be a situation and not be the more to be the new? Part of me yes, part of me not, I think,

I think, that each an Abbas as both the Morae, they present facilitades and difficulties

different. The Albaise is a guy that is new, There's a, no, will, it's a

little the scenario of the Morano, is a guy a little bit different,

but for other side, the man, a man that we're a guy, we've got

three years, get us, so all it, in the balance, yeah, and we're,

and we're, and we're really, we're really, and, and, and, and,

and, so, programing to day four of New New New the,

as the pantor has been the country, he's United, Abu Dhab

Europe, I never looked in Brazil, for favor, the UFC is going to my

city, I want to my suntoron in my city. And the Denoart

said said, so we know, so we're on the year, the

last of the two, until day four of the M. the F.C. R,

are 10 years, so but of these seven, the first,

and the ultimate not the The first the guy is recuperating, and the last is the second

is the second is the two years, for the winner for the winner for the people, for the

we're doing, we're doing it's now now. But we'll see if all go to work well, care,

that one of them to make you make sure, for we to get really to be to be to be

to be able to do you, car, that's more more just is than the Pantos and the

New New New York to the city of the city of with certainty. And maintain more the centuron of Brazil, that, who can

say to have there are three, because I'm going to start now in January, the dispute of Citroon against Raquel Pennington. You're going to be there also, helping the preparation of her. With an expectation of this battle, more one that has superation in the year past, you know, won't know, conquist a victory against Holly Holme, and

there was a controversy of Dopp and all the Op, and even so, the FC did a her the chance of the centauron with other penit. The expectation of the best of the bestoners

possible, I'm a man who's a man very committed in the things that I

say I'm a man extremely superticioso so I don't I don't never

to can't the advantage to be to be she, she's very favorite nothing

when you go to when you go there are two people

are going in my opinion, you know? So, for more that, what does

the bolster of the postas, what does be a person to be a favorite, and the other a zaron?

So, the people who are the other. Get-in- this, that's not more

is than, are the, are the, some, are, not, not, not,

not, not, so, so, So, we're going with a confidence good for this lot, a energy excellent. She had a camp

marvellous. You know? Poe, everything we could do and had to do, we had to do it, we did, now it's just in

Control and is to recuperate the body of those last weeks that were very pesed, the peso, even more,

more, more, more, more, she's at a little bit more a little bit more because she's she's trying

about her and the strategy is a tra Sata it's all all rightomely well, it's all right she said she

particularly in the part mental she's very very strong because a we know she said

she never she had nothing she's she doesn't a year she's a thing she's not a thing that

she's not a thing that she has very She never, never, never, I'd

have been to talk about the time, and she's a lot of the other and she, she,

she, she's she know, this remedy has, say, let's,

say, like, 20 years, say, that, so, all, all,

was, was, was, was, it was, the, po, the usad,

collect the sun, the usada test, the usada, the usada, the, the commission

had a problem, a, something was was a And I have to

I'm to thank you I'm of dejoiles for this guy because the Hunter Campo was the guy who said I'll, oh, I'm going to bring for her because I know

that she that she's that I'm not I don't want to try it the ranking and I will work

to work to work to work to make the we're going to do it is to

do you the centuron against Julia a Pena in the In fact, she could have been to have been in December,

but as well, December, just had the two, the Pantoja and the Champs-Strekland, yeah, took to January. Uh,

a Juliana Pena, unfortunately, was a mached atone, normal, that would be a Rachel Penton, you know, but it's what you said,

a superation, a guerre, you know, and we're going happy and confiants for the week, in the day 20, we'd bring

more the Citron to Brazil, there in Toronto. In a certain way, will be special to get a little to return to back to the American

Top Team, the title that has been with you during much time with Amanda Nunes. In the Renta final

of her career, she was she went, but during a time, the conquest was with

you with you know, and was the last of you during much time, and now will have

the citron at the Shittara. For certain. It's special. It's special for me. It special

for America Top Team. which is a centuron that's that's a lot of a

time, the Amanda when I did it after Julian after she took it,

but it's a little but it's a special for me, I'm to help to return

this centuron to our team to America Top Team yeah it's

very special and 2024 can't have more a time with Armante

Saru Kain infent the Charles of Bromx and guaranteeing the chance against the Mahathev. You said,

everyone has a relation good with Charles because he's a good for everyone, a man who's good people, you're going to gore-or-opost

with the Sarkhan which is a very common for you, because, for example, mark a lot of him to go to Moikano

that's a team, so yeah, it would be a lot that you are trying the guy better even,

because the guy is the other team, but what is an expectation for this lot of this letter to

this is the question. So, man, the fact, I think in the story of

M. M.A I'm a coach that never suffered with this, uh,

the armand with Rachid, Tibal with Maga, uh, D'suppa, Natan with Rashid,

Tibal with Maga, Armand with the nephew, Armand with Matus Nemrod,

you know? So, the Armand and Moikano I had had been because the

net, the Matthew, the Matt, the Damir, I don't were a head coach

of any of them, and I'm the head coach of Armand. Now, Moikano and Armand, I'm,

I'm the headdicoct of the two. So, I, I said, I said, I said, I don't think

just, I, I'm, I'd to help to me a much more time.

He's got with me, he's coming, he's from him, he had He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he came to the Maraqa Topkin, and we're just a lot of time. This time total, I think, are

eight, you know, together, but the Moikano, is to make the day-a-day, you know, so, we're, we're, we're, I think, are five, I think, are five Lutas. Infin, in any of no way, I don't any of course, but more one way, a lot of course. And, more than one way, deuce, you know,

And, now, as you even said, it's a situation complicated, because I always like to say the

same thing. Because in a interview mine, you will me hear about to say to me

to say, what I'm going to talk about. Because I want to start talking

with Charles the way that I want to I'm so I'm a friend of him,

I think he is the finalizer of the story of Ultimates, more than Royce, more than Demer, jaccarat,

you can put who, in my opinion, Charles Oliverer, is the major finalizer of the history of the UFC.

It's a person human, a man, a mannour a puttotor, and I can be talking hours, I'm a fan

of him. So, in this situation, that I had had been a ball a time a time

after, some people came around me, saying, ah, the armant had

there's a who's a armand, who is Armand to fight with Charles, the Armant is there is a matter

he's always he's over there's but what happens there's some things for the Charges

that retarded a little this this first, he per he was he was

for Lando a Lund a but he not was for he was the first

round and was finalized in the second then He got him He gained

He got to Darush, very He went to He was He was a infelisibility To take a Cotte

Yeah, to have a court, not he And unfortunately, when these things happens,

the filan And then, so the Islam has also because the Islam was offered to Islam

the Armand a time a time after and he he said he said no

and He was a champion. He was a champion. He was a champion. He was he was he was chitated the name of Armand some some concretized.

I'm going to get here and say, but he don't want to go to work with Armand. But he can't get to work with Armand. So what he said? I don't want

the revenge. Because he not not just the Armand, it's a Roman, Charles. Because then he he's a lot with Gage

and theoretically is a lot more fast, that the Gage not so good of wrestling, right? And tors to the chas to gain from Armand, and don't have to

to fight with Armand. This, I think, is the thought of the Islam. The Armand will and does what he did with with Darus,

he took the number four of assault, a devastator, a caust a dastator, and for these

circumstances, he he, gain the right to be to look for the number

one, you know, the his challenge if he got the Charles,

get the I know. I think is just for Charles? I don't I think Charles

has gained of all the world. I think Charles is a guy that he

did for I'm for I'm for the centuron

I know, I'm to be sincere I'm Islam and Charles and Armand and Gates

the winner of the Islam Charles would say he would winceria and would be what I was waiting that would be the more normal because the Dundsenpoy was not

not would be not it would be more difficult so we're just we're expecting this in the fact for the FC 300 but I was

still being the other of a bit I know if you know I know that the Islam not not because it was in the middle of Ramadan not.

No, no. It's been to be able to have a Ramadan. It's not time to

do you know. No, it's time to do you know, but I'm going to put it, but I'm going to get to get

to get to the right, because it's to get a with a gage. Deauce this rive a roll out of

the carl's, now it's a armand with Charles, you know, and the vencedor with Islam now he It seems that he said

that he will go to a Gage in June and with a winner of Charles and the and the

Armand in November. Let's see, let me. Let's see. What, what, I'm going to

say, it's a lot of a lot really a lot of for Armand. I know

of the mountain and the Armand will have to escalar but but I

also I'm also I don't see many problems that the Armand can bring to Charles, so I believe that it's a lot a lot of fast for Charles.

Now, Charles is that he's a little magic who took a coin to cartel. A guy very perigoso, I think the Charles

a lot more perigoso for Armand than the Oslans. Sincerament. I'm not I'm trying here what I'm talking with you,

that is Brazilian is, is, to be I'm rasgando cedar, not. You know, you know,

I'm a very much, but in the fact, but in the world, I think that's, for the

Aramann, because the Charles is very very dangerous, you know? In the opinion, it's a lot of

a lot of a lot of a lot of the ones, the ones, the ones, the ones the points

of the factors, and the we're going to try the chars as the charles,

as too, the Chalal, and the Chars, will try to explore the fracos the

fracques of the normal what is what is my charles does see a

athlete more than he he's he did the record of his

decisions he was victories victories for decisions three

four I I think two three three I the

car a finaliz he he nocotee he finalize

he he don't extremely pretty so how the finalizations

the the the Islam and how it was the the the final

is the second 22 years only had wrestling lot of with Islam

13 days of he got the last the first the first

guy to put the one to put the first we're six years

after he's with me six years the performances that he had, the Armand

grew much, uh, of maturity, learned very in the part in the part in-pair, especially,

uh, and in the Jujit, you know? So, I see him endurcending to the caram with Islam.

Now, the Charles is a guy extremely perigoso. We have to be atent the three rounds, uh,

the 15 minutes atent to the stream. You, you as a guy, a long list of the athletes

of the FCA and I'd see your opinion how you see, what's what you see what's going to be the first

year of the NFL having been bought the Belator what is good for them, because I force the

plantel and but I'm my opinion is a ruin for the sport in general because I'm an

option to an athlete the guy gets a little limited if the guy has the

he has less an option of an event to sign, in the United, how can you with a

trainer of a lot of a guy and there is a settenas of people

see this scenario that's this man. I don't go

I don't I don't got back I don't got to have been been

been been because you said were there are three

events great and now are so two so when

when you when you when you when you have this when you It's difficult, because, for example,

the PFL no has 125, or 135, nor 135, or 185. So, three categories, and the PFL no have. For that, I just have one category of men, so it's complicated,

man, how is, po, you go, so, you go, many people just have been dispensed, but some of, this year. Ah, it's a year

until the final of 2024, the bell actor will be operating, yeah, eight events

so, right? Exactly, are eight events. It's very little, for the

quantity of the athlete of quality, what you will do do you do you're doing?

What do what you're doing with the best of 135 of the world that's

called Pet Mix? What's what's What's doing with a guy This? Kiyos? Porra.

You know? Then you get a division of 155 pounds which is 70 kilos I

have Raush I have a Tann now the Shabli Oh just the academies

are three maybe the Roush will go to an event in Europe but it's complicated,

it's very complicated and there's good, the boat of 70 kilo of the who doesn't not going to

not going to to the PFL and the tournament and the tournees are 12 12

you know for the there's that there's there you put those it's

it's it's complicated I don't I don't I don't I think that had to have to be able to-a-tore to have more option,

to have more lute, to have more variety, to get more competition. It would be good? Three events great, competing between us, for athletes,

this would help the athletes to gain more. Infin, a series of things and not will more happen because of this a junction, and I, in fact, I don't go.

I don't go, no. Just for we just to finish the last the last year of the M.A. was in 2018. This despidial, you know, you, you know, can't

say that's in shape, that's in the active, I'm doing with the guys, are the team, I'm

saying, I think of a new dispeded of MMA, or, who, maybe, maybe, maybe, or,

this point of maybe, or this part is, it's a thing, that's, yeah,

but, the my part mental, I think I think 30 years 20, 25

years of age, but the my body, it seems to have been in 70 so 80, you have

an idea, on the position to the ball, I'm I'm the virile

my man, porra, get it. Now, what I make this mentality young

is that I'm that I'm I'm I'm going to the rest of the day I'm a new my class of

Jiu-Git-s and I'm the best in the world I train with with Pantos I'm training with Adriano Morais

training with Peter Munoz training with Arman training with Sasha training with Natan

training with many people and this me makes new because I want to I want

I want I'm getting I'm getting me living I'm

let's take to come to my turn to no time no Romba you know, the carso

me sent me no, I need to do you know go, but I'm sorry but, but I'm sorry but, unfortunately,

car, I think, it's what I have to do a MMA I just did the my maximum, I did the

maximum, never was a champion so, of an event great, you know, I have a record

good, reasonable, but I think that this phase, car, is, it's just

the first my life, I think the, my phase Now, I, I,

are, some, are, some, some, so, I'm in a phase

I'm going to be a new I'm to make a name, a guy that's

a guy who was a example, this is that I want to let, I think,

I'll go to more, not more, no, I think, it's to be

ridiculous, now. Now, if there's a category master, then it was a,

there's, vealing like me, there's be a lot, and it's be a great-steroza. We'd have take testosterone,

do we, we're going to do with all with all right. But infermint we don't have to compete with a guy with 25,

30 years of age. I'm with 50, you know, car? Not even it's even, it's ridiculous, you

know? Now, one thing that's the do you do some the lute of the clasada of

kimono, the worldials master, that I always look when I can, so this is

a thing that I always always are in my plans, but I also also depend of the schedule of the lutas yeah,

that year, the year was very, was very rigid, I almost not have no, I was,

I was talking to you, before we started to start to start, that I'm with this I'm doing,

I'm doing something doing something something. The athletes want to me care, the athletes

me care in the corner, the athletes gostom of my job, so it is always an joy

a great for me. Obviously, my family suffer, the my academy suffer, because I

almost never I'm not not there, but I'm a lot of a balance, I think that, I think

a thing that I'm very, very, very, very, very, so much, and honrado

to be this chance to work with an other people, you know, car, that comes

to all world here to America Topchin, you, yeah, that, the Russian,

Kazakhstan, Degist, European, Brazilian, American, So it's a quantity of athletes Enormes that America Top Team has and as a great person

having this possibility to have this experience is a marvelous, so I just have to thank you to God, to Dan Lambert, America Top Team, that are part of my

life and to all the world who tors for me. Even who tors against is helping, it's helping, it's also. So, even

have a hater, is it's just going to because I want to prove to everyone that they're to prove to those,

the guys who talk to them are wrong, but I'm not me I'm not important to do, and humility,

that's what that's the more important. Mereer, Camarado, thank you for your time,

finally, is, coming here on the podcast and just we'll let me too,

to you know, to you just mark it, so that they mark and the LUTA of the Pantone in the FCRito

I'll go to look at I'm I'm amen, man I'm I'm sure to make a

first to everyone I'm that I'm that I'm a public I know that's a public great,

I see that the people from now after April will be a little satisfied with me

yeah there's there's people sending a message on my Instagram

you will see the chute-box will to be to be all awesome. It's all

wonderful. I'd like all those who tors me, and I'm tors for me, and I'm incredibly there

many people who talk to for the Armand. The Armand is a guy who has been a very Brazilian who

I talk to the Armand. This person don't go much of Islam for cause of Charles, so I'm

I'm talking to Markan. But now, obviously, it's not be possible, but I thank

all the people there, that's always interacting with me on the

social, and I thank to you also, also for the opportunity to be here, and it's

marked. So, so that's that's been going to be here. We're going. A lot of the podcast,

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