MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Cigano e Yorgan comentam luta em evento de Khabib

Episode Date: May 4, 2022

Junior Cigano volta à ação pela primeira vez desde que deixou o UFC para enfrentar Yorgan de Castro no evento promovido por Khabib Nurmagomedov, e os pesos-pesados batem ponto no Trocação Franca dessa semana. Natural de Cabo Verde e fã de novelas brasileiras, churrasco e cachaça, Yorgan fala da ajuda de Jon Jones nos treinos para o duelo com Cigano, enquanto o brasileiro comenta os planos de finalmente lutar boxe, reconhece erros nas lutas com Cain Velasquez, e analisa as chances de Francis Ngannou contra Tyson Fury no boxe. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. With Junior dos Santos returning to action for the first time since his UFC departure by facing Yorgan de Castro at Khabib Nurmagomedov’s Eagle FC, both heavyweights stop by this week’s episode of Trocação Franca. Born in Cape Verde and a fan of Brazilian soap operas, barbecue, and cachaça, de Castro discusses how Jon Jones helped him gear up for his fight against “Cigano”, while dos Santos unveils his boxing plans, Francis Ngannou’s chances against Tyson Fury, and looks back at mistakes made against Cain Velasquez. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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boat of the spheria. I'm Gleynchru, correspondent of the website American M.M.I. Frikerne in the Friday, the company of the

Pesososos Giorna de Castro who's infronted on the Igbo F. 47 event promoted by Rabib Noemodov

in the day 20 of May in Florida in the United. And before you you ask you so, Glein,

you're mado, you create a podcast in Portuguese and will to start to bring a malucco gringo to back now? Because think you for you know, my friend, that the Yorker de Castro

has been in Cabo Verde, so I'm a Portuguese native and probably already has seen more novel Brazilian than what your family. The guy is practically a Brazilian honor,

other than to be a guy but a cacete. But, before the interview with Yorga, we go to a Florida for a bit-pap with equally people

good, junior, Cigano, ex-campion of the UFC, that's the first in more a decade, long of the dominions

of the Anawaz. See, there. The other side of the line we have we're on the day 20

May, my anniversary in front of Jorndecastro in the first of the FEC in, poor,

almost 15 years. My name, my name, my name, my name, my name, my pleasure

to talk with you my, man. The anniversary, my, I'm going, I'm going to

give this present, there, a victory, a knockout legal, to, for,

to be to be playing, for me, if we're if we're, It's that,

me, me, Vos, this, the first the first the first the first

the first the first, the first, I'm from the year, when you came to

when you are the new, of the all of the years, that were the

years, how it's being the the Cigano the the way of this

next the a vote there? Ah, I'm, car, sincerely, I am very very well.

I'm, I'm, in the initial, the end of the first I was going to it was a

thing I was a thing I wanted, obviously, because what it was what did it happened,

were some those were some some negative, some and this nobody

nobody, but but, but, but, but, but sincerely

I, I'm a, I'm a one in a little just, I've parado. I

had a year there I'm of an of an kind of a

kind of with me proper so, very great so, of the situations

and even to be to understand the way of all of all all

all I'm so I'm doing very well not for sport

but but of a way in a way in a way all

the two looters. I'm I see that there a hype very great, right. The road, it's obvious. The UFC is responsible for this, for levary to leave the sport to the other patamar. And I'm very happy to see what all the form how all, how it's all right,

the whole, the Eagles, now, PFL, other various events, of a form fort, they're not just, not just, um, pointualment, like was the customero. They're really vial to

get to the Eagle, for example, I have me impressioned with the organization, with all the

form that they are organizing and and we're not doing us, I'm trying I'm very satisfied in

able to see what what's going to be what's going to be happening. The FC is an

questionable, the mainstst when you do you know, when you do FC, you're there's a elite of sports,

not much, not you who was the champion of the event. So you're not sure if you had this impression, but imagine that who are in the FC there's elite, look for the other events like if it was a event or maybe not have much not been taking the money. It's a little bit of the FC

and started to receive a propost, started to talk with other organizations. You're surprised of the force that the market is having today? I'm surprised me very positively. The form when the most things are

and like, really, like you said, when you are in the FC,

you don't say a problem, you're not a matter of the world, so you

have not, you know, even preston really attention in the around us, let's say.

And these arredores are going in a way very strong, of a form a

consistent, and I could have this parameter now, that this year that I was

put up me to be my my life, without press,

without, I was very preoccupied. First, was the decision of, what it was the decision to

know, the decision to know, if I wanted to do not, I had this moment, I started, like, to think,

is, that is the really what I want, and so, some, some days in house,

you're making, to get a response, of that was really, no, no,

I don't think, I'm, I'm 38 years, I'm, a, a good time to

to do that I said, I'm going to I'm going to be I'm a passionate for what I do. And then, a part of this, a lot of

having conversations, to listen to propostas, us positionar a little more in relation to this, but always with calm,

with a precaution, because I imagine that my next one pass would be the most important. At the my intention

of my want, to go to the box, we've had the conversation with, I mean, the Lut is marked

with a trailer and everything to confront a guy of the box it's been being a dialled a guy we've been

a lot of it's all that's all that's the that's the legal like in the F.C.

It's a little no, don't have a story you have being, not that's

not that's something not that's not I'm not not I'm just commenting about

something something is something So they demand what is, what is, and it's not, and we're going to talk, we can't get in a accord to make the things happen. And how far as the thing to Triller?

We had a lot of marredo with the Ku Blakplev, in the Triad, and they've got to adjia the lute, we've got this event, the event, we're going to do this event, we'll do this event, and then they pretend to do, I think, June, August, the event

of their, then I'll look with you. but everything was all over a way clear and very objective so put in the table

we're getting to a accord and the thing is this type of this type of doing me feeling

so much it's a famous mann who can't who can he can't do you know

exactly and this and this lot of this lot of the trillet which would in July, August, that's, in July, August, that's,

what is the plan now, is the same adversary, or even to be, or even to be with him, it's going to be other person? Until then, the same adversary, in, in the fact, it would be in February, and they're, they're, it's been, ah, it's in May, no-so-what, as, how it was the first Twitter, I think, in this initial, so, it's always,

it's always, it's always, a little more of difficulty to do the things really and-earned. But the last positionment that they us passed was this, which would be July or August. I said, I'm going to be able to be able to go, so we're going to be this event of the Eagle

now, happening in May. I said, there's an excellent lute for us in May, in the MMA, but not was what I was looking, but it's what I do. I'm a guy, I'm a lot of voter of MMA, I'm not a lot of the box. Obviously, I'm going to be testar in the world of box,

and I want me testar in the world of box, But I'm a lotuador of MNA. So, it's, like, like I said, we're sitting, we're all over, and all over

all of course, and now I'm going to be able to make this a lot, and really, if I hope that happens,

and if I happen, the trailer, in July, August, I can do it also, and more one even in the final

of the year. So, the scenario is great, I hope that the things really happen in this

form. Financerally How are the Boleses have been in the F.C. In the last you've got

in your goal, what you will receive now in the Eagle, what you would receive in the Triller and it

was going to get in the FC, and now I'm going to receive what I got to get in the F.C.

So, or so more than the the champion of the UFC is doing. The champion Furns Beazard.

Or so it's not So it's a ruin, it's that I, for I think the market is, uh, it's being being a lot of it.

Uh, more one way, not, not I'm not going to be putting into an officer, you're going to, you're going to, you're in form some,

of some, no, I'm, no, I'm, not, I'm, no, I'm, it's the event that's a, it's, it's, the event,

it's, the, the major of the world, the contrary, you know, the, are super-orgulose, to talk, there's,

I'm, I'm so, I'm good to have done to have done in a form a legal I think this

I'll have reflected in those people other than I'm in the way I'm going to I'm a part of the

part of the but I'm reflecting in a form good doing a good lot with a great position and with

possibilities great and that I can't I can't I'm playing at the opportunities that they were brought us

me trusses me trossessing here I I can work in a way if I

think I think I think I think I'm let's let's say this I'm this is a

freedom of this is going to talk about the last of the end of this liberty that you have been

option to do what you want to this event me give this variety of this

or in the box or DMMA having this in the mind looking to the market that you see

what you what is the I would like I would like to get to find this guy in this rega or this guy in the rega of box the son of the cigano what is what is the most

you bathe in the heart today is a lot box today is me test to the world the box I think this with Kubbratu

plebs would be excellent in fact it will be excellent because the Kubbrague if you can see a little a regular a little different of box original that It's value

bathe the agarado but it but it it's a lot of box well, say it

and the he's just pervert to the critic and for Joshua for two two, two,

the two, lenders of box so the guy is a very a excellent

test for my career I'm very very very I'm very I'm not

I'm not I'm don't consider I'm not a guy I'm

there's a lot a lot but the scenario, of a way

general, it's very legal, the my objective principal, today, we're going

to say, is to fight box. And, obviously, a thing that maybe I had

much, I'm a one of the thing that's that's that maybe

to be a bit to have to have to be to be able to be

front guys as the kind of the current Curtis

Blates of the rotas, you know, that we have been in career,

a thing, a thing, like, like that's a spirit of a spirit of a lot of, a lot of

we want to a revanch, because in my case, and it's good that's a good, I'm better.

I'm better, and if I put all the things in a form together, I'm in a form legal,

I, I, I can't be them, I can't I, I can't to see this

in a form very clear in my head. Obviously, the fact or not the fact

it's the way I'm the way I'm I'm sure, I'm trying to be trying to be a question of

a question, the idea, the intention would be revanches against these guys, but as I'm not

not I'm in organization a thing, today, the principal objective is a lot of but who

can't know, but you never said in this brigual with this bra contractual with says,

the team of his contract he's a end of the year, he's going to be able to be the

team, there's a champion. There's a thing that still, but we'll see what going to happen

in the next time novel, but what is, what is the reaction when you're, what you

said, the last the last box of the game, all this big that is rolling

with him with the FC, the FC communicate the team of the opportunity,

in the same day he would he would put the situation, this batheation of

capoe, that's a may be a extremised the relation of the two, how you see this situation all involving the

man? For example, starting to the question of the question of the game to want to say, he

is a champion, he can't say. There's a contract, of the contract, of the

other contract, the total athletes are very similar, it's much a little thing, there's a

question, there's a question, you're being, you can, it's, the moment that wins your contract, you can't be a vent.

So he not, contractual-alment, he don't be able to stay. He should have been to be able to say. The intention that I see of his, is,

so, the person says much about the box of his, but the UFC, even where I see, even where I heard,

for example, the Ingan-1 would have made more of year, millions, even in this last last his last month,

but it was a decision of him, not, re-novar the contract, It was a decision of him not accept the terms, or

whatever, or whatever, or whatever, or whatever, I think the intention of his intention of him is to fight. He has a conversation with Tyson Fury,

then, maybe he'll roll this lot, is, in box, what would be for him exceptional, because in

question of, financially, the thing, the thing, the thing when you when you're a,

a, a champion, or you're Lutant on the heads and you can really do a recadation

of the PEPAVIL, of all, so the money is really gross, grand, we see the boxers as the boxavers,

so I think this line that he's looking to make happen to happen, desire to he, I think a little

complicated now, even more of he's being the champion of the UFC and say to do that

to look to box, I don't I think, even, even, I even, I'm even,

I'm even, I don't think he would not have been so much success in box, no. The line of technique, a little in a question of movementation and all, because box not just a porrata. It's movement, it's movementation,

you're position, you know, the proper Tyson Field, is a guy gigantesque, but that's a movement, it's very well. The end of, we saw, if he continued to be in-pe, he would have had been per'd have been

the fight against the Garnet. So he decided very well, what was a thing that I admire much what he did have been shown the ground the game

the game of the show of his own the job he considered guaranteed the victory but I

I don't he's very limited to the world of the box so the so I know I know

I'm gonna renew with if you go I think you you will you will you

will make sure he's first is the first we're talking to the guy difficult a guy difficult

big andesquilm, difficult to looker. I even called Tyson Fury to do try it, that there's a box with a agaradion. It's to do you. It's just to do

something different. The Inganu could do make a tride with a triege. With Tysonville there I see a vantage for Inganu. But just box

so I don't see, obvious. This is an opinion also that not, let's say, I think, opinions that not accretent them

have to be ignore. Maybe this is my opinion doesn't add nothing to him and he just has to ignore

but it's my opinion. You think the chance of his look to to box is what

the American calls the punch your chance of the peddrable and say he's

because in the technique and the technique and all the not a lot a lot during

no, no, not it. Even for question of pegada, the Tyson Fearer

He's, he's who he's a car. Batty is a car. Batty is a tractor. The soco of the guy is demoler. Talves, maybe the Inganu

takes to put on the question of the power of knockout or a little more, a little bit a little bit more. He don't

know, even more with Luzha Grand, but, or so, the Tyson Fier,

did very with a lot, with the D'O. Theontel Wider. So,

and the, and the, and the, and the, and, and the, no, of box today,

so I see a lot of a lot of but I'm a lot. And the enganu there's a lot of what everyone wants to do to see.

The power of knockout, the guy bat, my man, it's a lona. So, it's all in

a piece and the thing, the man to get a man, get it's good,

the great novel that is having in the division of the PSC is the

John John does or not no, yeah, there's more two years

that he did the last last time, this thing that's a thing that's going to see to see the

people, he's going to get to be the but he's getting in a accord to roll up now, but he's

going to be talking about the Routis and he's you think if you, the fact, the John Jones

to start in Pais and have been to be sure because it is time that we're going to

know how he's going to do you Dachaldo? You think he that he get in this division to to make a

big in this division to do you know, we're talking to John Jones, a guy spectacular, you know, for more

more polemics, that he's involved and the way he's the proper body of his own, yeah, I,

whatever, the way that's the guy is the guy, you know, so he will always always always cause a

interest, where he's going, even more competing. And I think excellent the

lot with Miotit, Myotit is a guy durissim, it's the type of of the kind of of the fight

that will really really get a great good-vinds for John Jones in the

those pesos I hope that really happenst even the other the castro he's

training there with him now I've been he training there he was

commenting he was commenting he was trying to a suggestion of to bring the John Donos to do you,

I'm looking an adversary to walk to box but box. Like the John Jones is, he's,

he's, it's, or even, or even, or even A, in the M.A. in, no,

or, but I think it's not, it's not a UFC, not, but a box,

you know, the other, you know, never, you know, never, you're, yeah, it,

it, maybe, it, you know, or, you know, before these guys,

, I don't have to do with me, box with me. This is the a lot to be made. Let's see the

in the box there. You know, you're the car, you have the power of the power of the

power, so much, if you're going to be the chaninian, then you know, nothing

more just, nothing more just, man, and the question about the category of the UFC,

uh, the Taituivazza is, is going to go on now, now, it's

in excellent phase, various knockouts, got to the Eric and Luz, and you're a guy that he knows well he, because

he's been in 1918, if you see him, a guy with a game to be a champion in the UFC, you think when he really the elite of the division there, he, he, he can't pass it.

Ah, it's hard, as it's, as it's a, it's, too, it's a lot of our life, is, uh, is, uh, uh,

and to be able to with a impot, and with a bond, with dedication, and this is a thing I, He was a very, especially the book I

I knew him when I studied him, while I saw, I was, I was, I was, I was prepared to

to look to him, you know, a guy, really, and a good, and a very,

a lot of, to be the lot of the results that he is doing the results that he is doing the great

names, he, maybe, maybe, even, even, even, when you say,

when you when you say, when you say, when you're the dream of the everyone, now.

Now, it's something to a little, very difficult. I, I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, think, I think a, lot of, interesting, and that's always,

legal, to see a good, is a good sort, is the young of the other,

the other other, the other, he's, he's, came to the

last of the event, what you what you , what you , two?

So, the organ of the castes is a guy a lot of car number, uh, especially in the question of the Muay Thai,

bathe forte, jogging those hands, uh, pesas chuta well, it's

being, um, he's, the thing and all right with John Jones now, maybe the

intention should be a, maybe the running the tracation, yeah? It's,

it's, I'll just a question to the I know, I go to a knockout or I'll be a finalization, you know? That's a lot of interesting,

but I, sincerely, but I, sincerely, I think that's the second round. The main intention not is to be cookinginging, that we say, is to be a

battle, the fight, there's a lot to be a active, and it would be to happen. So, in my opinion,

the intention, not pass the second round. Now, a guy, a good issue, obviously, as a

heavy and the he's the only he had some the result negative

in the last time but the we can see that he he was

he had he had moments and that he's he's he was

he was he was the the the knockout with

that the tap yeah tap tapa taff taff

yeah he he got that he he knocked the

Like was that, the hand He got, the point of this is the piece and the piece so, so the care is a little

to do you know, with a lot of much with a lot of especially to impose. One thing I have studied

much in my own my own my own scenario in general, like, my man,

who's are the most of the day, who bota the pressure, who can who does

happen, um, to a form of a kind of being, to, so,

So, when even, not expecting nothing. And one of the guys that got got to

the UFC was the great Rade that's a company of team, he came to talk to him.

Not more, not more. Oh, he's said America Top Team? He's came to

he's out of the FECN, if he will see his career of him in MMA? If not,

what will be the plan of him? Yeah, yeah, he's, he looked with him,

he got for a point, if no me again. He was the Brazilian also,

the boy. the boy who he looked with him so he he took some good his last

the first his first he was he got for finalization he put the guy in the

grader and got a a grotina a little strange and he left

the lot it's a guy a guy a and I think the lot

and I think the but more one I have I have I have been

so what I I'm I'm in my little in a lot I'm a

my man the intention is out out of my intention is going to mou for all the

other and if the the lute for the ground to find a finalization I

always I'm I'm I'm I'm really we're many

blockers but it all it's all it's all a thing to

consider and pass to consider things positive because you

always that there's always there's always that, but if it happens you know, you don't

don't put attention to this type of situation. So some some blocker, some blockers mental,

mental, that are you're getting to keep and even, even, you know,

you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I love, do you know, luka-gattas, but I

always, I've been in the errors absurd, so, that I, I see

today, mehaval this year that I know, I'm going to my man, I'm going to

this yearn't but I know, but I'm in the last time, in the last year,

in my second with him, for example, he tried, he tried about five, six

quedas, long in the end of the lot, I defended all, all the

and there had, there, there, there, there, there, tentative,

that he came, that he came, and I I'd say I'd go to the other side of

octagon and I gave space to him and get a comfortable comfortably and continue to continue

and I'm what I'm what the thing was this there yeah like various others

errors but this was one so that's a tap in the car you know what you

what you're what you're what you're caught on the car came up the end I was

on the I was in up was mounted I was, you know, I was, you know, I'd, I'd say,

I'd say, to go out of the rest, the guy was the guy was doing, I don't know, because the, my,

my, my, box, and all, it was, it was, it was, it was,

it was, I, I, I, not, not, not, not me,

just, using, all the, all the, all the arsenal, and it was simple, the,

the, the, , that he car is in the car, no, it was just I would pass to the costs, or mount or or to put the

shoulder on the barrio, to get back on over over, make a 100 kilos or something, maintain him there, mark a point,

that was, but I don't do it, I'd go to long and, and, uh, gave the opportunity

for him, let me, comfortably in the time of his, he'd be able to work to let's,

then I'd never explain this, I didn't, a thing really, here. So, errors, such, absurd, and I think

the experience, this moment of reflection that I'm living there, me made able to see a way more this way, and I don't want to error in this form. Now, this version of 2002 of the Cigano, which finally there was a guy that, poor, had a lot, I'd, I'd,

had been, yeah, yeah, I'd never, never, said, this time that you've got, this time that you've got, for example, one and a half, between a lot and other, now, there was this time, to reflect in, this version of 2002 of the Cigano.

Well, the guy pisked, passed up to the summer, it's a lot. This intention, obviously, that with with, with,

with, with, with, intelligence, without s'pose, because many times you want, when you go,

when you go to much a sedge to pot, you can't, and then the man can't

even more in the person pesed, not it, not you simply say,

you simply say, like a manuco there is brigando not it it's not it's

you're going to go and impose a strategy, impor the other techniques in the

thing I'm that I'm still in me and this time this time this time

you mentioned I never never I never I'm when I when I

when I had a time to when I had been to be with with

with this with this with how would it always a pressure, a preoccupation,

you know, so this time now that I took a mon and a little there was excellent to really

to really, we'll recover the balance, the, the equilibrium of things in my career, in my life,

and to get the conclusion of that I am I'm to be who I'm a lot and that I

want to be a lot and that I know, anxious too, for I'm anxious to

see, Yergan-Dicast on the day 20 May and then your love to box and all that will come to future, you know, thank you very much for attention and good luck in the event. Well, thank you. A lot of all right-out. We're going to be in Massachusetts

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Thank you, Ferre, thank you. Pleasure with you, man. You who is of Cabo Verde, you know, in a battle of MMA and a a lot of a lot of margaret with one of the major names Brazilian in the history of the PECD,

ex-campion of the FC, how is the expectation for this duel against the Cigano? Okay, Ferell, I'm prepared so, I'm, I'm training, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've,

here, now, for my academy, I'm going to, another two semana to terminate with him. We're going to prepare, the junior is a Lenda. He's just a lot with all the people of the people of the world.

Lutal, and batted. It's not, no, there's a secret. He's the guy, but I think that the time is my and I will, I will win this. This is the type of

that you always always had a fashenda, because you started in the sport, he was the champion, it was one thing was thinking, you'd be,

you'll be there one day I'm going to be there. This, for me, is surreal, even, until the Kade to finish, I don't

believe. When my manager me called, I said, there's a opportunity to here to get to be

a lot to look when I would get to get. I said, I said, I saw, when he got the

King and Velaski, I even had started to live in Portugal, I was coming in the lot of the

lot, and he, and he got to the Kewew in less a minute. And I,

and I partillando the Key or Junior of the Santos, it's a, it's a a victory to the carer,

Paul. And he not live the better of the phase, he just after the

after some after some some but even is a big big and this is the

major the career today, the more opportunity that you have been

in M. With certain this is better, this is a major, and I

think no name more than the junior of the Sanos

now can finish. For me, he could be to work.

He would end up one of the time. The guy had in UFC for

more 10 years, got the champion in the UFC, defended the

title. It's a land. He's not not in the best in the best of the best

he's top five times of all the time. I respect much and I'm

I'm have to have to keep the respect the out, but I admire

much him, not just as a man, I'm a little biter, or as a man. I interviewed he said he said that he he's always that you try to putrake a with him in bed, but that you think you will try to do other type of game, to try use more the rest, to arm, to

arm-hra-it-all-you-ta-purned to him, or you'll go ahead? Fah, let's tell you one thing, I was trying to go out, but then, then, training with John Jones, and John said, poor, you You're going to rest.

The my showon is good, too. The Junior is a faxed in the Jiu-Jitz, who has to respect it, but the John Jones says that we have to make sure that, I'll have to do everything. I'm talking to that one of Juna, be afiari, and there's a box,

I know that I can't do 15 minutes in-pe-a-in-peer with Juno, but if it's for to get a little, I'll have to pick. But I believe, I think I, I believe, I think, in my hand

I've been much confidence in my chutes. I'll see, let me

let me send him a message now and say I'm going to talk with I'm going to talk with him

though it's the desire to to be sure I'm going to get this guy during years he's

I've got a lot with box than my box is better than maybe the part more intelligent

I don't this for what I'm going to do do the a way more

more easy. And that's the more easy, the junior has a theory,

it's the theory would be more easy, but, but it's what you do you say, in my

head, I want to him in the hand with him, I want to I want to because he just,

he's not quite, he's, imagine, the junior, but, but we, but we,

we're going but I want to, but I want, it, will be, it's a ,

how it was this, of trainers with you with John Jones which is, one of the most of the story,

for me, he is the moral of the story of the sport. He has a trocaation of the

young, the cigano, it's a very much versatile, little the other style of

but he is complete supertisim, there's finalizations, there's the wrestling, which is

the main how you see this opportunity to train with John Johnson, and how

this did help you to do to evolve as a the way that he sees, the scenes is different.

I perceive because he is what he is, but in the two weeks that I did, he was in a party, and he was to do with the junior, jogged the jabbe,

the overhand. I have the same, the vergaura is the same, is, the piece, he's with the same pounds now,

he's, he's, he's, it's a, and the mentality he's, I'm far, I was saying to

him, I'm saying, you will have to show to him that you know, you know to do you, you know, do you do something, it was very good, he invited to me return to another once,

he'll be in camp now, he'll fight with you. I'll go, long after this year, I'll have to go to another once, too, to train with him. The Cigano

said in my interview that he even he'd even after he'd be to go after you, but he's going to be playing to go back to you,

so, then you will frustrae this son of him to fight the because it's not going to go, look, John Jones, for a friend, he said,

oh, what he'll happen to say? This will be da-mer. I'm going to let's go out. It will be much attention for him. It's going to be a lot. It's true, car. I mean, before to talk a little more about your Luton with Cigano,

how it was, after you trained with John Jones, how you think that will be this preighted of him now as a piece of peser with a lot in camegated against meotis? You think that this division

really is a division maybe even better for him than the 1-9-3 that he will start to limit to a to a a little to

the cows to grow to to get more more. It's good. He's strong. We do the muscleation

of the morning. I bote the peso' I'd put a price to a piece as much as

he'd even even had two years to prepare for him for this. 255 pound what is

the size there 150 350 in the second. But there's much force, there's a difference for me is the cardio,

he had very, we had a, I'd do, the monopla and hours, and he was there's always in the same

in the same place, and he, how is, how is what I can say? He never never,

no sparring, you never are comfortable with him. If you if you're going to go to the

wrestling. If you're trying to get you to get you to get you to go to the

leg, and the leg up the other way. And the people, you know, that neither everyone has

that one's a lot of the whole people can't even everybody can't engage in the wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu, and the

versatility of John, I think will make a difference. I think if there, there's a guy that was

good on the show, who is Favrizo Verdun, maybe could be problem with him on the shone.

But the rest, I don't see, nobody, no person because there no person if there

a wrestler good, will be better. And this look with Steve will be perfect. Steve has the same

weight, he's a good box, I think the John Jones will get up to play. And it's an excellent form to you know,

because the guy will get a long as a champion, against a country, he not will get to

get to a guy and pass a car, but you think, but he got because he was a

he got because he got to the guy, if he got to the guy, because for me John Jones

was to start to start for me, but if it's ever to enfrent to someone, that's a person, that's a good caliber of my titchin. It does, it makes sense.

It does that matter. And I think he will get. He's prepared. I'm a... I have a discipline to train. The guy trained... It's impressive for me.

When he, the mentality, a train. A general, one hour, one and a minute, two hours, Cersin. There, I'd be very,

I'll learn much. I came here now with another mentality. When I came here, you said, I've got to move to do that in my He's

Because he is very focused He's always with the trainers with the trainers of their always,

and it's to see the where I was where I want to get the my tito? I think he

I don't do that my own but I think he will put him to the ground

he will and getting this lot, if all done all we we're going we'll

have John John he's disputing on the Cintoranan if Franz Zinganou also

terminate this novel that's the negotiation with the FC and everything, this LUTA, is a guy more dangerous, a very great, very strong, there's that that someone, can't, anyone, might be this war, how you think it would be this war between the two?

I don't know if this Luton will be able to be, I don't know, is going to be out for nine months now. To return, it will have to have more six months to recuperate of the knee, and enter in camp. This is a year and a year and a year. John Jones has got with 35,

the France, you're with what, 38? I don't know how it will be, in this mid-term, if I was going to be able to do you. Because he said he said

he said he said he'll be able to try to try to try and he's but he

don't know I don't see anyone to talk the guy, I have a rastip very, very,

very, very good. The jiu-its of his very good he trained with Robert Lencara

in this bar very good very good and it and it's difficult to talk he has

the distance the distance I don't to talk in him 10 days. I think I don't talk to him. I went to go ahead. I went to

him. He never took in him. He used to talk to the guy and he has it, it's malicious there, there's many, I don't see, I think he would put a england to the ground, I think he would gain in the gas, too. And you're going to talk to you with this

law, you know, you who has a lot of the Cigano, you know, you have a a relation very legal with Brazil, you know, I had, as much talking about in office, I did this interviews with Rafael Marino, talking about the passion about the culture Brazilian, but unfortunately

this time, I think the fans of Brazilians don't want to be on your side in this way. I have many friends in Brazil,

but it's that scene, I, I, and my family always always always always we always know, we

know that I know that I know, he's a silent lotator and a great soul human,

and it's what is, I hope that the I hope that the The people in Brazil are always here with me.

We'll torsing for the but in the final all will be all right and we'll be all right for you know.

I'm not I'm sorry I'm not I'm just waiting that's it's really good

but he's good he's good he's good he's good he's not not it's not

there's there have to yeah it's very good and you you can't

you know that there's that's that's that's there's a culture that's a

kind of going to back to do you like you like that's what you like you

got to go to your country music novel food dance

a we do we're like the same that's that

that's a big coffee coffee coffee it's that

the car is the the because it was in Brazil. And I, I went to Portugal, I worked with Shurraskear, I worked

to have meat, prepare a car, I worked with many Brazilians. And the culture of Brazilian is eating all the day. It's comeer of rice and cheese all day. Aseille. And I've been my cachaqueouss, sometimes. That's what I'm in Brazil,

and how much? And how much it was the life in Cabo-Virte, I'll to confess that I don't know I know I know the country, how

it was the way? Before you go to Portugal? You just had a relation to when you were in there?

I was I was a footballer. I was, I was, I was a good-shing and there

a gentio but I'm a lot of car is very, but it's a bigina it's,

it's good to pass a fair now, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go,

I'm, the problem no no, material good, you want to

to be a little bit it's a little bit a little bit a little bit I'm going to thank you

know, I'm going to learn to learn the but it that's a bitn't that you

did that was for you decided to go to yeah yeah yeah after I

did you don't not do not do the football yeah it was not

it was there's there you can't you to go to the man, or you had to

do you, like my my father is my mom to have been to go to Portugal. I went to

go to get back in the kickbox and there my family by the mom live here in the States then the

my uncle said, you know, you want to do you want to do you're to come back

to the United because in Portugal also there's many there's

you don't get nothing. Lut for what what? 100 euros, 200 euros, not to do not,

have to work, to work, not do not. And the my son said, I'm to come to the

United, that here will do and it's, and it was, it was very rapid, this. You know?

You've got to go to Brazil, no? No, I have to go, there,

I have to fire, I, I see, I'm, so, so, so,

no, on the Cane in the World and 203, the carnival, you're

going to, I'm, and these three countries that you've who you've

lived in Portugal, the States United, where you were more happy? I believe that the

thing the life is in the world I'm always really in the man in I'm

grew with my mother and I grew six children, we had always

always with music in house door open music and

to dance I always was always I didn't have money

but I was happy was in Portugal too and I

I'm very very happy now. I'm my family, my family, my family, my family,

and not it's not it's not a lot, I believe that you always know a man,

I'm very because I am very, I'm really, you know, the sport to give the tranquillity

financial, for you to come and you know, but you say, you know,

a new a new, it's a time, so, man, I'm, ench the

money to the money, as the family, in the family, in Cabo

Just in the cachaza, in the samba and shurrasca, that I want my offer. And it's going to be 20 May, I'll go to junior,

the my life will move to go to the better, and I believe that is that will give motivation to

gain this battle. I don't see, we're for reasons different, the

my lot, I'm with going to wince, I'm with my life, I believe that will

start a year 20 to mind. And the objective as an athlete is to cast

the major checks and the major and the future or what you do you do you

have been to do I want to I want to I want a money, I want a after this game or wince or

there's a fact that will be a love I'm want to I want to look for money I want money

I just have in the FC everyone need the UFC the UFC does that the PEDGRIP

for you go to go to get to the other to get more more but I'm my second

Lute I'm going to more than I go to the FECC for me I'm looking for the

money now who's the people are maybe in some years in I'm in I go back

I'm a churachachin a car a chastacin a sumbina yeah that's that's

that I'm that I'm I'm I'm yeah, let's hear you. Mano, cabrada, thank you. Thank you. It, very good.

Very good. Very good time to be here on the podcast. Good sort in this Luda. And as I said for Cigano in the interview that I did on the day of my anniversary,

so I'm a great Luda to present for me. A great Luda, I don't know. Who wins, I'm know, I'm very respect to the administration

for Cigano, but I'm going to go in a porada here. Thank you, Furn. The Trocason Frank,

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