Trocação Franca | 'Clima de velório' no UFC 280 (+ Spider x Paul)
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00:52 Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca. And representing the M.MA fighting in Brazil, Guillermo Cruz. Hello, the friend of the bestisem episode of the podcast Trocaation
01:21 Franca, a new house about this immense podosphere. I'm Gailam Bruce, correspondent of the site American in M.M.A.com, and I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, and I'm sorry,
01:45 Guillem, pleasure is my pleasure is my podcast with you. This is here a reference to us in the world of MMA. I'm, I'm kind of kind of a little complicated,
01:55 because, po, we go to there, in a car, 14 hours of to do that put the coverture
02:01 in a summer a long legal, and the ceree in the bowl there, like it would be a victory of Charles,
02:07 but unfortunately she didn't she was your level to optimism for this the lute
02:12 to Charles you were very confiant that he would be able to know, of the risk, of course,
02:18 that the Marceve represent about, how it was, the same your palpite to the other, you
02:24 imagine really that the Marathev would be a vancee. Yeah, I thought, if you
02:28 had me asked me asked me asked you had to post your your,
02:31 your poor money that you have, and who would, I would go,
02:37 I would not, I'm, but I thought that he was he did he did
02:41 destroy all the top of the category there, and the Marra Shev, no, the contrary. And then I came very
02:48 a memory, the question of Macacheve, I compared in my mind with the time, came there, destroyed a
02:55 guy who not was a rankiada, he got a runkeh, all right, but he sangro there, he suffered,
03:02 soot, the durin, me, he wasposed he. And the Machasheve with
03:06 Charles, no, no chance. It was a victory so sublimy. Obviously, the Chalels,
03:11 we know, there's, some of the the best jiu-jitsu of the actual champion, vina a sequence spectacular,
03:17 gaining the top of the category, uh, being the actual champion, even not having the cinturon in the cintur-on-n-a-sintura
03:24 there, but I, I thought, obviously, he has to be confiant in the game of the jih-o-d-o-
03:31 he said, oh, if the guy who want to be to be back, he will be to be back, the best-
03:36 the best- the best but it was something in my the head before, he said,
03:42 like, he said, like, he's, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy,
03:47 when, when they're to go to the shone, they're like if if it's a sucurie with
03:51 a preys, but I think it's even so, obviously, like, the level of the
03:57 battle in the was a kind of, it was a little to the lot of if the battle would
04:02 be in a, you could be, it would be a great chance. But then, it came, a,
04:06 he gave a, a, no, a goal in the Charles, that he came he was going to him to the
04:08 chasov mounted on in the same and there's no way what I'm what he's the fact
04:15 of Marachev to have a superiority in-pett too, that the Charles he has
04:21 succeeded knock-down on the adversaries and he always he's always a knock-down,
04:26 it's a constant of Charles but generally he's recuperate but the difference
04:30 of this lot is that I think the Charles he not not sold
04:35 100% of what he had in the trocaation, because I knew that the other side of the guy that different of the last few the last,
04:41 he'd kid to do him to get to him to be back back, if he, if he, since he's not done,
04:46 he's got a a great, and imagine if he had been to get more, but the, what I'm
04:56 superbedo was this, this lance of the trocaation, and when the Marachev did a knockdown that he didn't
05:02 get any the second, you know, I didn't different of the other not like to the impuls he'd take a knockdown
05:09 was a minute for him to restirate this case not it was, so he finalized very fast, so he's that he just
05:14 got in the middle guard there by the yeah, he's got him and he's he's gothattah because the
05:20 Charles came to me grog there, it's not there, it was a was a
05:26 victory sublimy so, it's not a more thing, you're saying, oh,
05:30 what the Chalis could have made, he could, I think nothing, it was
05:34 simply a person that was superior to him, like, without a sombra of doubts, no,
05:39 no, there, no, no, no, none, there's, and it,
05:43 me, it was like, so, like, the first, second, he was, he was,
05:48 totally comfortable, in October, you know, exactly, for this, I think, for a,
05:54 for a cash to present, for him, a problem, he, not, he didn't, I think,
05:59 imagine that, you, imagine that, you know, maybe, had been , a little more recitaloos,
06:04 justly, to not vasar a that the guy and get a garra and it's a way, I think. My great doubt is that
06:11 is the Charles he didn't any moment good in the lot, if it was that night, he was,
06:19 if the Marachab was better in that night or if the Marjave simply is better than the more than
06:25 in the future and a revanch the charles vince being a lot to have the right, I don't have
06:30 this revanch if it's going to happen if simply the game not encahsha I think
06:37 the Charles would be a question of a question in the whole thing he had said that he did he did
06:42 that he would try he'd try to move something or if what we saw what we are a retratio
06:49 of what would be a question of it's it's difficult because if we're not,
06:54 like we know, we know, we'd have to have to have to be needed that he's
06:59 that he's This was the first adversary, the top but all over a creer, and so when we see, the rabbi,
07:08 the rabbi, saying this, after the other, that the father of, he, he said, that the,
07:13 the guy, he'd, that he'd be, that'd be, the real idea, yeah, the proper, Khabi,
07:18 probably, obviously, the, guys say, because, yeah, he'd get to
07:21 the proper ball, that's training the car and, and so, the market, you can't move,
07:25 yeah, exactly, exactly. But the form how the Marchhev He got those
07:30 Lutas his other the only the only the American he was a
07:33 American Martin Routins and it's a second a trotation that's a drop for one
07:38 he went and he came out of the other victories in the UFC we're seeing
07:43 have been having been so dominants to give the guys
07:47 the casas of the I think of all the all of
07:52 all those there were some not the other the category
07:59 he still was the favorite. So, so, we're, uh, we're, uh,
08:04 really, that's a kind of a guy dominant in the UFC, there, but, and with a
08:09 potential revenge, I think the way, it's quite impossible, is you create this revenge now,
08:16 uh, yeah, uh, let's have to, uh, let's, let's, for example,
08:19 if the Charles pick a, say, go, say, I, say, I,
08:22 imagine the, like, I'm, imagine the, uh, the world, uh, he,
08:25 he's, the Ganges, then he gained the Dariush, he probably he'll probably he'll put him in over, because me appears the eliminatory to see who will be the next adversary of MacChair,
08:34 will be Michael Chandler and Porriere, imagine that is the way that the FC want to be, and that's not far from the contention, if it was
08:41 a lot of a lot much paw to, I think he'd considerate it, but as far as the second round and the Macachev dominio
08:46 completely, the lute, I think practically impossible now, now, Charles, have the chance to a chance
08:51 to a revanch, I'm very curious to to see the next path in the category, because there
08:56 Volcano who will have been up a division to try to get a guy who will
09:02 get to who will be the next the final the because, like you know,
09:05 Michael Changer have all the marketing, are two people are very popular,
09:09 but the Darius is the guy is the guy is in a long sequence of
09:13 victories. He accept to get to him, if he accept
09:16 to if he is a decision more in terms strategics, because three months after he
09:25 has a guy who got he got over if he's if he's sitting and to wait a three
09:30 seven years, he's he's going to he's putting in risk the position of him to a guy
09:37 much dut that's but curious not that tomorrh this lot especially here in the rio because
09:42 we can be the chard's in the time he's I don't have the chance to less the presence of Charles in the FCRRIZ would be a presence
09:50 more than fundamental to to give a reforce in the that for the end of course the card is more or less there, is, is, it's, it's,
09:58 it's, it's, but for this happens, the Charles has to get to say the Poeero and to work the more rapid
10:05 possible, need to superar this derot, I'll take it as an incentive to to,
10:11 to, to, to, to, the way of the victory of the sturess, to
10:15 dispute the to the Turoon, to win. And what you did you feel of the environment in Abu Dhabi? You who was in the
10:21 collective post-lut, that was the team total of Charles, like always, that was the tonic of
10:25 the time, he's circled of 30 loyros there in Abu Dhabi and he got with him in the airport
10:33 also, uh, before to go, but what you did you feel the the climate
10:37 of the shooting box in Abu Dhab after all after all it was very very cool like,
10:43 obviously I've seen the was the showbox, but the Diego, you know, I've been some of the
10:48 time, you know, but I think really good this idea of his idea of the family, with the family, with a
10:54 whole, obviously, the environment was totally pro-Islam, so you see in the collectives, the guy,
11:01 at the door of the fan zone on, the UFC experience, there was totally pro-Islam
11:07 because, yeah, the question to get more there, there's the question of religion too,
11:10 the Islam to be Muslim, and he would be a country and he, So he had a majority, but there had, so, a number
11:16 considerable of people, not Brazilian, torsening for Charles. And honestly, Charles is a guy difficult to you try to be in order, you know, car. Like, we obviously, we have, we're a, we're Brazilian, so we're just, you know,
11:28 but the most neutros, so, you know, not are neither of the Emirates, or the Russians, or or Russo, and they were there, there were a lot, you saw, at least,
11:38 some guys, like, not were, like, like, like, with a bandeer of Brazil, but, like, Charles, so he has this appeal. He even, he even posted,
11:46 on the day next the last year the radio to work in a hotel where we were, the hotel where we were, car, a multitude there, kind of,
11:53 yeah, trying to take a photo with him, so he did a image international, I think, of him very, really, very
11:59 good, so, not only this Lukacheve, it has been been coming a lot of a lot, that the
12:04 people are going to know more the story but the environment, it was all pro-maccheve
12:09 even, and there in the airport, I said the question of the airport, it was a thing that was a thing that was really,
12:16 like, the Charles, as he's a person differentiated, I, I, I knew,
12:21 I, knew, I, I never knew, then I found him after the part there's, where there's free shops in the airport in Dubai,
12:29 see him, you know, when you're gonna say, oh, pa, so can be a chute-boxe people,
12:33 the guy with the hair with the and I'm, I said, well, I'm, I'm going to
12:39 try, but, like, I'm, You'd say, I'd say, one day after the poor, perdeal
12:43 the lot, he said, no, we're doing at a boaths, he went to go and did, it was a lot of
12:50 people, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, had a little more, like,
12:53 had been, had been talking to the family, he wrote, to him, he said, I felt like,
12:58 I felt like, he said, he said, he, he said, he, he said, he, he,
13:03 he, came, there, more of, he, did, I'm, The impression that
13:11 that he could have said that he could have he could have been he was a good idea, was he was a feeling that you did a postura of him,
13:29 you think that, it's not can't know, especially about 24 hours after the derot is, it's like how it will matured the long of the time,
13:37 but this first impression that you had with him, this conversation with this conversation with him. And he's talking about the postura of his,
13:45 he was, batheed pesed the derot in him, you think, like, how not it, like,
13:51 O'Anson-Silva, yeah, that's a guy that had a manned, and when he had been, was a shock.
13:55 The Charles is a guy that, he's a person, he's is a customated to get to get to
14:01 the level that he's how you how you can't how you he's the postura
14:04 of the next a last you will not really the way to the way to the way
14:11 you can't we can't we can't we're in going to get the not not mud the essence of him
14:18 I'm not sure you obviously that the whole lot minutes after the lute I think everyone
14:24 knew he was completely abat he was a team of him was a time it was a time it was a
14:30 not for all the circumstances but in the day when I when I said I said
14:36 he was he was was sort of more the climate was with the team of the team of the
14:41 team of the team of the guys were more making, more making, more making more making the obviously
14:44 they were in not even he'd not even if he had been got in the car would be
14:50 talking the carnet there's playing the summer, saying that's you feel you're
14:55 they're abatits but they were just a little bit a little more alex and he's even, and he
15:00 said he said to bring the back to speak the conversation to talk with my
15:04 team to talk with the other the or casca, not only on octagon, but in the life, to super the difficulty, this is ineguable.
15:14 And I think he will will be able to be able to be able to be mentally of this. Now, if this will be a new escalada for a new title shot, then it's difficult, because there's that thing, maybe,
15:27 maybe there's, perhaps pass the alt of his own of his, maybe it has passed the time, and this happens with any other than necessarily because he's aballated or abatified mentally, right? And, maybe this happens
15:38 with Chais, but, like, mentally I have the certainty that he's a person that's
15:43 that's going to get a lot of that's going to be a new reenado of his, then it's difficult to
15:50 know, just he getting these possible challenges, that we're going to do Darius
15:57 and the other than Aboub wentseal in the decision, you see in him a
16:03 job good to Chars if it's this is the question that the UFC decided to mark
16:06 I think Yeah, I think it would be a game for Chalice because it's a guy that like he's
16:11 like he's like he's getting the time of his like the UFC to be the most the contenders
16:17 if it's for in the real, poling to for Chars because in the alge entire of
16:23 the we don't have the opportunity to see him not even the world to be better to be
16:28 better for him because we know Chars is a guy that comes a origin of
16:31 Mild he doesn't he don't he don't he doesn't the barrier of communication
16:36 with the public international, and he made three duties of the States Units, and more one in Abu Dhab, in the Emirates. So I think that he did a,
16:44 this made a good image international of him, you know, that the public, you know, he was able to he could be he
16:52 to get him to do it, I think it would be a good match-up to Chars, you know, like,
16:56 it's a guy that has, there's, many, various victories of the most different forms possible,
17:02 he, he has victory winning on the chow. There's a victory gaining for knockout, there's the last few
17:06 the last few the last time very versatile there's a job for Sharii and it's good too it's a good
17:14 and the victory can be very good and the deroad also could be really a really really he makes for
17:21 to everyone he wants to I continue here, I'm I'm a number one contender continue here I'm
17:26 I'm coming to get to a guy that I'm being very but he but he per
17:31 also he he just comes to go to a little more of the scale,
17:33 you know, to work to get to get to get to get the center right. And it's
17:39 he can't get a walk the return to the end of the end of he's in he's
17:45 he's he can't do you know, I'm the first of the field here because
17:50 I just got this two two guys because I know, but the question is
17:54 Maracheb will be the champion even if he's to front the Valka
17:57 he's in Australia. He just he's he's he's opposed, because for me, it's a total
18:02 sense. Bokanova's is a guy very good, it's a questionable, but I think the difference of
18:06 the time would be very very great. And then see the Marachev did what did he's
18:11 against the Charles, it's difficult to doubt this guy now. Yeah, you imagine,
18:17 you know, this game, this wrestling absurd of he, he, he's, he,
18:22 he's, he's, he's, he's a little, he's, he's small,
18:26 he's, it's difficult of him escape even. I also I also think,
18:30 like it would be a would be a would be a duel like a question and a yeah,
18:34 yeah, like the UFC probably is like the kind of the kind of
18:39 the cabib 2.0 in this sense, an guy, uh, a gueston a wrestler
18:44 to do make great luthas the cartel of his not perfeited but it quite this
18:49 he can he can't be doing the kind of where the cabibib and there the figure
18:55 the carib literally for behind of him So I think the FCV, he's like this, and for that maybe,
19:00 yeah, yeah, it's a first defense of the seaturon of his either, and it's a other champion
19:04 of the other category of the category of the back. It's true, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like,
19:10 I'm sorry, for your time, I'm recuperating again, of a long voyage, thank you much for
19:17 participation here on the podcast. I'm, I'm going to see in the FC Rio in January, I'm I'm seeing
19:22 too, as I'm it's a Cart here, for in a while, needs to a tempering a more.
19:27 Thank you a lot of for doing to do you know to do your make a lot of your social and read the
19:33 work. Well, thank you again for the presence. If God want to be in the
19:40 FCRille also. I think talking about a durin against Masvidal, it's a
19:44 time per a temper or more. It's excellent. Yeah, but you have to bring,
19:48 for example, Amanda, had to come in to come to come in The Cardi needs of a
19:55 LUTA Mereventy, Paul, Davidson is a great lot of a champion, but it's a
20:00 quarter a lot of Morrow yeah, he's all kind of too much that the other
20:05 three-luts have been good, but the fourth time, yeah, it's a
20:08 kind of yeah, exactly, and, because what, what comes, for the
20:15 you know, for a person, you know, the brando in Mexico, is being a phenomenon
20:20 there, yeah, the FC is a phenomenon with he, and I think
20:23 for this guys want to do this lot of the good, well, I'm doing
20:28 I'm a work on ESPN cobro, I'm on the site there's so the website of
20:33 the USPen people me encounter, on Twitter, R-G-G-O- D-D-
20:38 D-D-O-N in the final, Gustavo-Fal-O-O-N- and on Instagram I'm there Faldonico
20:44 that also post a lot of my work, so who can want to me
20:50 to be We're going to accompany. We're always in the world of the UFC. Now we're going to see a fight week to batheed a time with Luis Carlos Doria, trainers of box, Janiceon Silva, to talk about the curiousa lute of Spider with Jake Paul this Saturday in Arizona.
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23:05 to do a challenge different in the career, the Anderson, who has entraned lenders of MMA, has been a legend of box, now will be enfrent a lends of YouTube, let's say, the Jake Paul,
23:16 who's doing the bono in the box, let's be just, but, first, Dora, thank you for the participation here on podcast. How are you going to be able to work with the Anderson
23:25 for this desire inimaginable a years ago and now is going to do the paper, right? First, thank you for more a good,
23:36 to be with you here, this podcast, and we're trying with the same seriousness, the same compromise. As you well,
23:45 the young, he's, I've got the grand champions, grand lenders, the sport, for me, it's the moral of all the time
23:50 all the time. He's strewn in the box professional or international with the ex-campion of the world. Jules S. Chavez-Juneo, in his house, in the state of Javisko, for more than 50,000 people. In the second, he was in,
24:03 he fought against Tortis, no, caught, or, and with the same, serenade. It's a very disciplined. It's a guy that loves much sport, which is a lot of the box,
24:15 never had a son to fight box when I was in the FC, and, unfortunately, no, didn't have this opportunity, and now, opportunity to do do what he goes,
24:22 it's very motivated, uh, the day that's a good work, I think it's a normal,
24:29 the new normal, the sport more impugued of the world, with a YouTube like he with a million of
24:34 people, I'm a aggregation, to get a great challenge, that is a land
24:38 like, but we also, we're also on our side of the car, we're
24:43 working with much sered determination, the camp here in more of two
24:46 months, more of two months. The Jake He's put a girl a young, determined, he does a bellow job in a new of promotion, it's a super event. And we're a very well prepared,
24:59 and the most important. The most important. Annes, he's very motivated for this grand show. And what I mean, because, when we said, he's a man of sport, he's a champion of the UFC during a much time,
25:11 he's a very good in the box, so in theory, for Anneson, to confront a YouTuber, for more that he had good victories in the box,
25:19 gained a ex-victor to the F. For the Anderson, he don't have nothing to get to
25:23 get him, because he is front of a guy that not not in his sportively
25:28 talking, it's a great star, the Anderson will gain much money,
25:31 but sportively not a lot that will bring, gain of Jake Paul
25:36 not not not so he can to gain to the United and
25:40 he not not so he can get to the Vittal B. how
25:44 how How how motivar the Anderson sportively talking for a challenge that maybe
25:51 not, that in the not be in not not be a greatios so. I disagree.
25:57 For me, it's a great deal, it's a new normal, it's to be a great
26:03 atletters to box, of other arts martiales, infreting athletes, or
26:07 YouTubers or people who are people, and it aggregates to work. It's a new
26:15 that's a child, strong. The most sport is of contact. Never devisedimal the adversary. Never. I've worked with
26:22 a sports of contact for more of 40 years. And we've learned in the base, always respect to your anniversary.
26:28 And for this, when we train us much, we've shown the respect. I think it will aggregate so,
26:34 will help the sport. It's a great show. It's, it's, opening many
26:38 the sports more better than the world, as I've said, this girl, are
26:43 a different differentiated. He and the brother, he, the brother, he's getting a battle, he's getting a little brother, he's got a lot of the brother
26:51 against, under Anders-Silva, he's doing a career correctly, subbing de-graw for degrade. Today, is a legend,
26:59 the M.A., but it's being done to work in the boss but it's made with any the world, all the champions
27:04 of the world were made so, and we can't subistimal the J.C. clear, we're quite,
27:09 we're much of our work, we're much in terms, for your experience, for your discipline in the training,
27:14 for your motivation, because it continues motivated, and so motivated, this motivated very. And many times, this girl is doing public who are not come to see
27:21 whence, ands, and they're going to have this opportunity now to to be in the box. So, I'll see agregate
27:28 much, will be fortleasing much in our sports, and it's a great challenge, it will, be a great show, a grand show,
27:36 and I believe, with all respect to the way that we're always to respect to the adversary, in the front of a great victory of Anders. You said that the Jake Poe
27:44 is a degrade to the ground, he started infreting the guy of the NBA, then he went to Tyron Woodrow and Benachkin who are wrestlers, not are the strikers, but have much experience in the M.MA.
27:56 You think that now this degrade but he was from an wrestler for an Anderson-Silva was a pass more than a perna, maybe?
28:04 That's so, he's being fronting now really a strike in reality. He's going to a lenda of the trocaation, a specialist in boxing, a specialist in Muay Thai.
28:14 I'm training much the box. I'm trying to train much of box. He has been a lot of specialities. He assimila with a lot of capacity. I've worked with 20 years, a 19 years, and a few years, we're almost working, always, and now the preparation for a MA. And now, the preparation is a much more
28:27 more than a lot of the team. He's, he's at the fight of, he's in a lot of Chavez, just with box more than, more of a year, almost, so we're very confident. Before, today,
28:41 he's movement as a boxer, today, he boxe and in the reality, he boxeer, and then to be
28:50 a lot of the velocity, not a movementation, it's normal in him the movementation, which is a difficult for
28:56 the categories of his move, and gopia the form that he gopia. So,
29:01 we are very motivated for this event, we're accompanying all the promotion
29:05 of the the He was a little job, a new of promotion, he'll be also be able to prepareing
29:11 much, and Anderson, here, as always, the discipline in the training, we're working, a lot of the sport,
29:19 Waberts, Conceions, the team American, so we have a team very strong, once we've invested in your training,
29:26 with all respect, there's always all the other, his adversaries. When the Cheke Pohn
29:31 infrentable the Ascrey and the people who critivable him, that he not
29:36 in front strikers, and are in front the wrestlers, many people, even the Danan White said, I want to
29:40 see he's going to let him get him to get him to him front him and he thought that much
30:04 he's not, you know, he's not, you know, he's not, you know, I'm repeating. He's doing the work correct, subbing de-graw by de-degree. I think the de-grawl really, he'll
30:11 make a little, but it's attitudes of each one. So he's been in the condition to confront A Anders, we're doing working for a threat-fort, a young, so it's a job-to-fact normal
30:24 with a box-a-door, down for de-grawl. And now, he will have really, in the front a specialist in the procaation. We've seen, we've just came
30:33 the Ekepoor-Gopian. It's an athlete young, and a strong, that has a power in the hand, he's been
30:40 being being he being being being used to be able to and he's he's been tested definitely to find a
30:46 am, an Lema, a strike a specialist in a trocal a time, a specialist
30:52 a lot of time, distance, a much good, he's very well train, he's very well motivated, that's the
30:59 we know, when the athlete pereg, the first, the end, the end of the end's the
31:04 contrary. Apart of the 47 year, it's very motivated. You mark the first train. First train, it comes to
31:09 X hour. He's 15, 20 minutes, a half hour. The second time. It's a
31:14 hour. It's 20 minutes, a half hour. So, the motivation of it is incredible,
31:18 and it also, it motivates. This is a team, it's very united, it's a very happy
31:23 with all this that's happening. For me, it's a privilege to be to be
31:28 going to almost 20 years and to be part of this moment,
31:32 that is a is that's working the world the job this girl
31:38 I'll repeat a job incredible of the work with the woman David RAND
31:43 Dio David RICK debated all the records of PEPT and we don't know how
31:49 the Jake Paul is leading with this in terms of emotions of
31:54 nervousism to start in front Wieneson Sylva but we know he is
31:58 fan of Anns Syva since he he's a with the kids, when Anderson, when
32:07 I think I'm a, say, I'm a thing, how you think that this can impact on him,
32:13 when he entered into he's got to get a point, he's a guy who's my idol
32:18 in my life of my whole so how is he can't make with him, and affect
32:25 the proper , the same, the same, the same, the world, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, He's in the promotion of the Lutra, where he was made the convict for him before he's to look at him. So really,
32:39 it depends on the head of his now, the form that's support this pressure. And how much go get in the day of the
32:44 war, it's going to be the other the athlete. So, really, it's a situation that we'll
32:52 see in the day of the how he will be in the ring, and to get in a ring, and he's,
32:58 I'm carrying of the M.A. The moral of the time. So, then you will see the power
33:01 the power of he supports. So, eight rounds of three minutes in this the
33:08 fight. The fight is official with a round of three minutes for a time, and the
33:15 box of official. Not a lot of the submission, a lot of official. The Annesot Silver, he
33:20 has, so eight rounds at the disposition to attack, to do the
33:25 game, he never was a guy to start to come from from him, he
33:29 always, he was always the to study much, to media the distance, let the guy to get a
33:34 little to the idea to do the same thing to do you know, guard those the devised proportions,
33:41 because you know that the guy is much more young that he he beats a lot of five minutes.
33:49 There's an last thing, there's an artist, so is a class, gradually. The Dick Poh,
33:59 the world, And you go, and you're growing in a lot. I think the initial, emanating, gopian, goopian, gopian, I always say,
34:06 the knockout, he is a consequence of goods. And he's going, connecting the gopies, and the knockout will be very close. I think,
34:14 an lastro of, I mean, in the luthers of five rounds, five minutes. So, it's very well, well,
34:19 prepared for three rounds, eight round of three minutes. And the thoughtament, and then, gradually, and, gupion,
34:26 mined an adversary, then, and then, and, and then, have a condition physical, incredible,
34:32 is very well prepared, physiologically, physically, technically, and tactically, it's that you. I think the
34:38 time is our otheriard, and we're growing gradually relatively. A we know, but when enter the patada
34:45 of Anneson, it's a problem, we feel, the titoortis came in the first round. In your question,
34:50 you think that this look at the 8th, the 7th round, or you think the Dikpo
34:53 is, you know, Well, the box The great The great star of box is The great privilege is in the knockout But as well, I always
35:06 I always say, I'm a day of day in the academia, I'm in a interview, the knockout, the consequence of the good Gopps. Anse, it's very well prepared technically.
35:13 It's rapid, to effective, with a good notion of time and distance. I think we're going to connect to gops, and mining, mining,
35:20 combining, for that this there's a much in the knockout. I believe it, I believe that once he went to knockoutier I don't know
35:27 the round but I think the point of it's just mined him point on point on as I'm
35:31 we're not we're not we're doing the people who was doing a path to pass a path in the form
35:38 correct and more and more you're just going to get a strike a special
35:44 and the he was copyate and he got he's got to he's
35:47 trying to find that he's so RANns so so I think I think that can't
35:52 all to know the consequence of the good goopes. We're going, gopian, goopian, and the knockout will be very close, if
35:58 God does he does. The United States, the United, like you know, it's a lot, not, is he coming up to every more of the 50 years of age, but he's not in a vitality, in a disposition,
36:07 a way of a legion, like if he had in the first of the career in the UFC. What the objective that you think he has? I think it, is, at part of
36:17 going to do you, or make a lot of money, or make a lot of exhibition like the role in Dubai, or the he's the case of
36:28 there's a chance of we know there's a chance of the person who's in a category of a person of
36:35 a character rankeated there a girl town of 30 years, someone who is with a sturtain
36:43 world so of boxing Anderson I'm what does he he still he's like he will
36:50 look at more until 49 years he said that's good You're going to be preparing for this, because he's my
36:56 the father of the athletics. If he's motivated, I think he's motivated. I think he's not more for the money for this motivation. He likes to the adrenaline, to get a peso,
37:08 the camp, this energy of the team, all the part tech, the part tactic, the preparation, the privations, and it's in this
37:18 world for many years. When I so live to the family and for the training. repose, the food,
37:23 and I think that's all the whole of all the we're in we're not we're not
37:29 we're not we're not we're not things good, more things will be going,
37:36 continue, and the first of past, the first thing is is to
37:40 get to Joe Paul, I believe that I think in the
37:46 future he will be being front another another I
37:49 would I think I always I say I I don't know, because I think it's a thing that would happen,
37:57 I believe it's a future next, I hope that happens. He'll be able to find him my weather. I think it would be a thing incredible, because Anderson has no more nothing to prove. Myelder no more nothing to prove. So I think
38:12 it's been to be things that motivate him. Many times you can't create a little bit of a girl, today, but there's really going to make a difference. I think that's really will make a difference. I think that then it's a thing an idea of
38:24 the most of the time, with a lot of a tantal of box, it would be a lot of things that's
38:30 something that's something that must be the idea you know, can be the impossible to make this
38:35 this work to do the Mewether against the M. No, no,
38:39 no, that's a lot with a little more than RAN- than RANsa
38:43 can't also, I can't combine the battle, the exhibition, I think tranquill would be
38:50 A great thing for the promoters, for the televisions, for the sponsorsators, for the fans who am a box, a MMA,
38:58 and I accompany Wandsons, Mayweather, that would be the more. I think he no. The P. would not beauntary
39:02 no. It would beckery a price combined. Because, as I said, the Logan Poe, who
39:08 in front of Mayweather, is much more peser than the than the show, the exhibitions
39:13 of Mayweather this he gave the corner have been counter atletas, or of a level more low, technically
39:21 talking, or athletes men, he did in the end of year, in September, in Rising, against a Pes-Penna, that was Sakura, there wasa, the RISN,
39:32 he would be being front an athlete of an high-simbing, you think he would be in this point of vulnerability to confront
39:41 an answer? Because, with a certain time from the first from the first first, since the Conor, who is a
39:44 guy who knows what are doing, or is an an athlete of a man of a man of
39:49 a man who don't have any time like the experience like it's a lot of that would be
39:57 a lot of a lot of an moment exact for the two. The two after being,
40:05 back to go, walking to show, this is this encounter of this is
40:10 very good. I think the person would be the pencili, Now, the Mayweather
40:15 will know that in front he will implant a great athlete who has a power in the hands and will respond the altitude. This really
40:21 can difficult a little the decision of Flory Meilather. You think if they'd be able to a lot of
40:28 going to be a lot of her? How would you think that would be the country? The war the official
40:34 is difficult for the weight would have to be much to be able to make sure to be able to
40:39 make sure to be a great a lot. It would be a great a lot. Glad you my brother has an experience very great in the box. But Anderson is a
40:47 guy fantastic. He's incredible. He assimil a technique with a much possibility, he has much aptitude. He's dedicated to what he does, I believe. I believe it. I believe it would. And I'd show. And I'd show me. I'd
40:58 showly a great performance. I don't know. Manor, Dorep. Thank you, for your time in this semester semester year in the States United. I'd prepare a few days
41:07 of the year to sign in the month. And good luck I'm a few week of the team against the Jake
41:13 Powey Valle, let's get a great event and we'll go to see with a great victory
41:17 if I'm sure you know, thank you get to both, you don't know these opposites
41:29 in the last of the Rloves to Peson not a first not but it's
41:34 already just rolling at PFL but but I think no in the FCE
41:37 is the first that happens? I think yes we we just
41:41 yeah we I'm I'm against my my brother is the first time in the UFC,
41:46 I've just had just with the other coaches, right? That's that's
41:49 going to do you but I'm my mom the first way, the end of the corner of
41:54 Andreye, the corner of Andreye, is the Mike Brown, Moco, and the Paulino
42:01 right, the same who's the same who's and so but, but,
42:06 it's the shock of the jobs, uh, my arm, will be there with a confes-on. And how is the
42:14 work, like, because the Gabriel is in the T-T at the most time, and he he took a point to you and to go to there, how is, how you
42:25 did you get to him at the T-T? So, as you said, he opened the ports to me here, we're always we've been
42:34 conversing, we just came talking earlierly, since he came, he said, he said, that I had to come to come to here,
42:41 because the work here was a manorne, and, and first, for the quality of the job of the people, and second, by the necessity, especially by the number
42:53 of athletes that we had here in America Top Team. Many people, Gabriel, was over-carregated, and many people would have disamparrared. Many people who were
43:02 without who came to train, a box of quality, because modesty apart, the work is a a job differentiated. And when Gabriel came here, the Gabriel came as a trainer of Moecano,
43:11 but everyone wanted to train with Gabriel. And when I came, many people, I wanted to train with me to the gallery, and when I came, many people, I wanted, and when I came, many, you know, said, you were nice, and thought, and so, we, in fact, it was very natural my inner source.
43:29 Innocence. In fact, in the middle of group, here. Gabriel had had done, all the, in the middle of the camp, in the I've been in the Yeah, I've been Yeah, I've Yeah, I'm And I'm back
43:40 The last one A lot of the last A lot of Lottomah Mohamed, I I went right to come right to my mom, me picked in the airport,
43:46 then I came here to the people, and here's here so here today. And how are you said, you were in
43:52 the sides opposed to PFL and what was, how is the first time that this happened
43:58 it was strange for you two did that with this dynamic? No, man, we're from the box, no box, this is very natural, corrikeero, we participate in competitions,
44:13 where we can't put more of a same category, as the guys are good, the guys are coming on each one of one on the one of the other, and then, to get to be in front, just can't have a champion. It's happened several times of the people to fight against, uh,
44:26 especially when my brother was in the team's Brazilian, and I was in the San Gaitano. Yeah, and then, I was an auxiliary of my brother on the Adie San Caitano
44:36 because my result of my man had as a general of the professional in the team of the team of the
44:41 team of the team of the general in the adean the stateano who were very good, serve you
44:46 the other who were very good, but not were not not even were the we always
44:52 we're trying so we're trying on the selection and I working on the AD but I think it's
44:57 natural this but the culture is different yeah there there many the people of Jiu-Jitsu in the M.MA. In the Jiu-Jitsu, I've seen,
45:05 we've got to be, in the final of the preparato the world. This is imaginable. Understand. Final of the time of the world, I'm going to open for you? This no exists, guy, in the box. We, we just not I don't have in a corner, but there was a lot of the Mons Falcans? I was. My brother was. I, the one of the two
45:23 one, man, man. I was. I was with him. I was with Ghos, who he was in the corner of the skiff, was the time. Well, so it was, in the box is totally different. The guys rach forrassed, no come. Even because the guys
45:35 rachaporado in the train, you know, poach, and then get there's going to, a position
45:42 in the ranking, or aida for selection, aida to sell- or a dollar in the NFL,
45:49 for a, try, there's a try, can't open, yeah. But in the MMA
45:53 there's much, this thing, you know, I think that in, here,
45:59 you say, here, you say, there's of the same team same to entreat up team,
46:03 a team, a team, a group big team, a group that's different, because it's been a lot of
46:08 many times for a team in the team of men and far as this idea. You're saying, you know,
46:15 for example, when the Dudanth confronted the Loro, that they never preenav together but the Loro
46:20 never never had more in a new union and it was a situation, a drama, in a
46:25 good sense and a narrative, of this here, imagine that, by the ATT, being a team
46:32 very great, the people try to be in a way way different, because it's not you know to do you
46:38 do you know in the day-a-day- in academia, no? No, with certain, there's a day that's
46:44 a day that's a day, understand, so it's, from all the world. In all the world,
46:50 so, so here we can't divide it, we can't put, there, there,
46:55 there, there, there, there, there, there, working with the people, so nobody
47:00 is a person, nobody doesn't get to get to everyone, we can't give to the
47:06 space is great and it's sometimes, the guys when it's not the time, not the not the
47:12 not, because the academy is so great, they're trying on the other, nobody's nobody's
47:16 all right, so, so, specifically for this love, and the people, just got to
47:23 get to the same around, you, don't know, You tronvado in vestiare. He's been to dover. There's even a bigadier.
47:30 I did a bigadier with Pez-on, because the thing, that the Pezong, he trained in the morning, with my mom, right? And the Arloffesk, he, he, he train more the time with me, for the
47:40 schedule of Andre, we had to move a time of the training and then, and then the day when he went to train to the same hour. It's the same time.
47:48 It's the same time. I said, I said, to the Peson, I'm going to be the same. I'm sorry, he was trying to said,
47:54 he's training to try You know, then, then he started that Esen, and then he was going to be a lot of people, people are left in the ball. Yeah, it was very much of a lot. And many people think that the Andre, for he's a man, so,
48:08 he's a man, so, he thinks he's an car arrogant, but, oh, he's a guy super, at least with me, like my man, who, who is a trainer, and he's, and he's, always, yeah, he's always, never, you know, he's never,
48:21 never, didn't, you know, no, it's, exactly, people, it's an journalism, acime of all, and here in America Top Team, just by saying, you know, respond to what you
48:28 said, about about, about about to be the things, to be able to, this is inevitable here, car,
48:37 because it's, everyone are in a corrid, some are in a career, for the title, some others are in a
48:42 carid to enter in top 15, some others are in a course to not get to be made to go, so,
48:46 so everyone don't go, and one one or another, and one will be the other, and another,
48:51 you know, I'm natural, the with naturality, because it's been happened with a lot of frequency,
48:57 and it's not the first and it's the only the there's a person who can be able to be able to
49:05 be made, you're trying each of your own your, before she was made something,
49:10 did that did that did this sense of training of preparation? No, for you
49:18 have a last minute of the pen, the last month, the I prepared Blagois.
49:23 Yeah. Blago. I was my mom that was with Blago. And then, and then, it's...
49:28 It's... I've... Yeah. I've had one occasion of I train to my mom can't
49:33 train to train him, I've never been but I'm in lines in lines in lines
49:37 I'm my man who train on Andreye has time, I'm I'm trying the
49:44 boy, uh, from the boy, from that from that from the there are
49:49 three luts yeah. I'm and and how you how you
49:54 know, and how you analyze them the pool of the team this what the
50:01 most of the most of the difficulties in the side of the box that one presents
50:06 for the other I think in the person the the velocity of Andreye
50:13 because the Andrew is a guy who he has a kind of a form physical
50:18 a good and he he knows the he has the person's a way to
50:24 the so we're working to put minimis the risk and do a
50:30 game that is a more intelligent for you know and I think in relation to the pesown
50:34 is the the velocity of the because the force the person is a person is a guy
50:41 very strong especially in the first round he is a really a guy he is a
50:45 really a time that we're working every we're trying to try to keep this quality
50:52 explosive of the particularly in the little bit to maintain the our distance,
50:58 a little, a distance is more than a different, and it's a way, and it's not to talk about to
51:01 talk about a lot of, but it's, not about a lot of, this is what that's the thing,
51:06 it's like, because, like, you're all, you're all, people, all the stories, the family,
51:11 the boss, and now, I mean, normally, there's a rezening, you're trying, this guy,
51:17 this guy, to try this guy, to try, and what you can't, but you're, but you're
51:21 not, because you're just the It's not not very a but we
51:26 don't be able to it's that we're a little we're talking the cards
51:31 abertas like a kind of kind of kind of that's a kind of that's
51:37 a athlete that exactly exactly and if there a thing we preza
51:42 always prezor was for for our professionalism it's from the because
51:46 the time of the time we're we're we're we're we're to the selection, and when
51:54 we came to here to come to the class of professional. Inc., there even, there's even a thing that my
52:00 mom was talking and when we were going to our father, he was a putto, because he said, he said, he said,
52:06 he said, and I didn't get to the people, I said, no, man, how I'm,
52:12 I just talking about my time, I was, I was, I was, I was, but you,
52:17 but you castes this with that, because this is a woman, because this is a one, because the selection number
52:21 And the guy of the competition, I was the guy was the guy I was making, I was a matchmaker I was a matchmaker in the country
52:29 I'm sorry if you see if you record a program that was over a week was the night was the
52:34 band of sports was I was I was I was the and I always always always I always
52:41 always it was always so I'm I'm always I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm more than I
52:48 feel more more anxious It's been a manoe of like the guys say like the way to the way to the
52:54 work we're going to we're going to this time we're doing to make sure to get into a gustav valdon
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