MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | 'Clima de velório' no UFC 280 (+ Spider x Paul)

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Charles do Bronx não é mais o melhor peso-leve do mundo, e o Trocação Franca repercute tudo o que rolou no UFC 280 com a participação do jornalista Gustavo Faldon, enviado da ESPN a Abu Dhabi para cobrir a luta com Islam Makhachev. O podcast traz, ainda, entrevistas com Luiz Carlos Dórea, treinador de Anderson Silva para o duelo com Jake Paul, e os irmãos Gabriel e Ivan Oliveira, técnicos que estarão em lados opostos na luta entre Andrei Arlovski e Marcos Pezão no UFC deste sábado. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Charles Oliveira is no longer the best lightweight in the world. This week, Trocação Franca debates everything that went down at UFC 280 with Gustavo Faldon, ESPN Brazil's reporter who flew to Abu Dhabi to cover the fight with Islam Makhachev. The podcast also delivers interviews with Luiz Carlos Dorea — the boxing coach for Anderson Silva’s clash with Jake Paul — and Gabriel and Ivan Oliveira, ATT trainers who will be in opposite sides when Andrei Arlovski faces Marcos Rogerio de Lima at UFC Vegas 63. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca. And representing the M.MA fighting in Brazil, Guillermo Cruz. Hello, the friend of the bestisem episode of the podcast Trocaation

Franca, a new house about this immense podosphere. I'm Gailam Bruce, correspondent of the site American in M.M.A.com, and I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, and I'm sorry,

Guillem, pleasure is my pleasure is my podcast with you. This is here a reference to us in the world of MMA. I'm, I'm kind of kind of a little complicated,

because, po, we go to there, in a car, 14 hours of to do that put the coverture

in a summer a long legal, and the ceree in the bowl there, like it would be a victory of Charles,

but unfortunately she didn't she was your level to optimism for this the lute

to Charles you were very confiant that he would be able to know, of the risk, of course,

that the Marceve represent about, how it was, the same your palpite to the other, you

imagine really that the Marathev would be a vancee. Yeah, I thought, if you

had me asked me asked me asked you had to post your your,

your poor money that you have, and who would, I would go,

I would not, I'm, but I thought that he was he did he did

destroy all the top of the category there, and the Marra Shev, no, the contrary. And then I came very

a memory, the question of Macacheve, I compared in my mind with the time, came there, destroyed a

guy who not was a rankiada, he got a runkeh, all right, but he sangro there, he suffered,

soot, the durin, me, he wasposed he. And the Machasheve with

Charles, no, no chance. It was a victory so sublimy. Obviously, the Chalels,

we know, there's, some of the the best jiu-jitsu of the actual champion, vina a sequence spectacular,

gaining the top of the category, uh, being the actual champion, even not having the cinturon in the cintur-on-n-a-sintura

there, but I, I thought, obviously, he has to be confiant in the game of the jih-o-d-o-

he said, oh, if the guy who want to be to be back, he will be to be back, the best-

the best- the best but it was something in my the head before, he said,

like, he said, like, he's, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy,

when, when they're to go to the shone, they're like if if it's a sucurie with

a preys, but I think it's even so, obviously, like, the level of the

battle in the was a kind of, it was a little to the lot of if the battle would

be in a, you could be, it would be a great chance. But then, it came, a,

he gave a, a, no, a goal in the Charles, that he came he was going to him to the

chasov mounted on in the same and there's no way what I'm what he's the fact

of Marachev to have a superiority in-pett too, that the Charles he has

succeeded knock-down on the adversaries and he always he's always a knock-down,

it's a constant of Charles but generally he's recuperate but the difference

of this lot is that I think the Charles he not not sold

100% of what he had in the trocaation, because I knew that the other side of the guy that different of the last few the last,

he'd kid to do him to get to him to be back back, if he, if he, since he's not done,

he's got a a great, and imagine if he had been to get more, but the, what I'm

superbedo was this, this lance of the trocaation, and when the Marachev did a knockdown that he didn't

get any the second, you know, I didn't different of the other not like to the impuls he'd take a knockdown

was a minute for him to restirate this case not it was, so he finalized very fast, so he's that he just

got in the middle guard there by the yeah, he's got him and he's he's gothattah because the

Charles came to me grog there, it's not there, it was a was a

victory sublimy so, it's not a more thing, you're saying, oh,

what the Chalis could have made, he could, I think nothing, it was

simply a person that was superior to him, like, without a sombra of doubts, no,

no, there, no, no, no, none, there's, and it,

me, it was like, so, like, the first, second, he was, he was,

totally comfortable, in October, you know, exactly, for this, I think, for a,

for a cash to present, for him, a problem, he, not, he didn't, I think,

imagine that, you, imagine that, you know, maybe, had been , a little more recitaloos,

justly, to not vasar a that the guy and get a garra and it's a way, I think. My great doubt is that

is the Charles he didn't any moment good in the lot, if it was that night, he was,

if the Marachab was better in that night or if the Marjave simply is better than the more than

in the future and a revanch the charles vince being a lot to have the right, I don't have

this revanch if it's going to happen if simply the game not encahsha I think

the Charles would be a question of a question in the whole thing he had said that he did he did

that he would try he'd try to move something or if what we saw what we are a retratio

of what would be a question of it's it's difficult because if we're not,

like we know, we know, we'd have to have to have to be needed that he's

that he's This was the first adversary, the top but all over a creer, and so when we see, the rabbi,

the rabbi, saying this, after the other, that the father of, he, he said, that the,

the guy, he'd, that he'd be, that'd be, the real idea, yeah, the proper, Khabi,

probably, obviously, the, guys say, because, yeah, he'd get to

the proper ball, that's training the car and, and so, the market, you can't move,

yeah, exactly, exactly. But the form how the Marchhev He got those

Lutas his other the only the only the American he was a

American Martin Routins and it's a second a trotation that's a drop for one

he went and he came out of the other victories in the UFC we're seeing

have been having been so dominants to give the guys

the casas of the I think of all the all of

all those there were some not the other the category

he still was the favorite. So, so, we're, uh, we're, uh,

really, that's a kind of a guy dominant in the UFC, there, but, and with a

potential revenge, I think the way, it's quite impossible, is you create this revenge now,

uh, yeah, uh, let's have to, uh, let's, let's, for example,

if the Charles pick a, say, go, say, I, say, I,

imagine the, like, I'm, imagine the, uh, the world, uh, he,

he's, the Ganges, then he gained the Dariush, he probably he'll probably he'll put him in over, because me appears the eliminatory to see who will be the next adversary of MacChair,

will be Michael Chandler and Porriere, imagine that is the way that the FC want to be, and that's not far from the contention, if it was

a lot of a lot much paw to, I think he'd considerate it, but as far as the second round and the Macachev dominio

completely, the lute, I think practically impossible now, now, Charles, have the chance to a chance

to a revanch, I'm very curious to to see the next path in the category, because there

Volcano who will have been up a division to try to get a guy who will

get to who will be the next the final the because, like you know,

Michael Changer have all the marketing, are two people are very popular,

but the Darius is the guy is the guy is in a long sequence of

victories. He accept to get to him, if he accept

to if he is a decision more in terms strategics, because three months after he

has a guy who got he got over if he's if he's sitting and to wait a three

seven years, he's he's going to he's putting in risk the position of him to a guy

much dut that's but curious not that tomorrh this lot especially here in the rio because

we can be the chard's in the time he's I don't have the chance to less the presence of Charles in the FCRRIZ would be a presence

more than fundamental to to give a reforce in the that for the end of course the card is more or less there, is, is, it's, it's,

it's, it's, but for this happens, the Charles has to get to say the Poeero and to work the more rapid

possible, need to superar this derot, I'll take it as an incentive to to,

to, to, to, to, the way of the victory of the sturess, to

dispute the to the Turoon, to win. And what you did you feel of the environment in Abu Dhabi? You who was in the

collective post-lut, that was the team total of Charles, like always, that was the tonic of

the time, he's circled of 30 loyros there in Abu Dhabi and he got with him in the airport

also, uh, before to go, but what you did you feel the the climate

of the shooting box in Abu Dhab after all after all it was very very cool like,

obviously I've seen the was the showbox, but the Diego, you know, I've been some of the

time, you know, but I think really good this idea of his idea of the family, with the family, with a

whole, obviously, the environment was totally pro-Islam, so you see in the collectives, the guy,

at the door of the fan zone on, the UFC experience, there was totally pro-Islam

because, yeah, the question to get more there, there's the question of religion too,

the Islam to be Muslim, and he would be a country and he, So he had a majority, but there had, so, a number

considerable of people, not Brazilian, torsening for Charles. And honestly, Charles is a guy difficult to you try to be in order, you know, car. Like, we obviously, we have, we're a, we're Brazilian, so we're just, you know,

but the most neutros, so, you know, not are neither of the Emirates, or the Russians, or or Russo, and they were there, there were a lot, you saw, at least,

some guys, like, not were, like, like, like, with a bandeer of Brazil, but, like, Charles, so he has this appeal. He even, he even posted,

on the day next the last year the radio to work in a hotel where we were, the hotel where we were, car, a multitude there, kind of,

yeah, trying to take a photo with him, so he did a image international, I think, of him very, really, very

good, so, not only this Lukacheve, it has been been coming a lot of a lot, that the

people are going to know more the story but the environment, it was all pro-maccheve

even, and there in the airport, I said the question of the airport, it was a thing that was a thing that was really,

like, the Charles, as he's a person differentiated, I, I, I knew,

I, knew, I, I never knew, then I found him after the part there's, where there's free shops in the airport in Dubai,

see him, you know, when you're gonna say, oh, pa, so can be a chute-boxe people,

the guy with the hair with the and I'm, I said, well, I'm, I'm going to

try, but, like, I'm, You'd say, I'd say, one day after the poor, perdeal

the lot, he said, no, we're doing at a boaths, he went to go and did, it was a lot of

people, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, had a little more, like,

had been, had been talking to the family, he wrote, to him, he said, I felt like,

I felt like, he said, he said, he, he said, he, he said, he, he,

he, came, there, more of, he, did, I'm, The impression that

that he could have said that he could have he could have been he was a good idea, was he was a feeling that you did a postura of him,

you think that, it's not can't know, especially about 24 hours after the derot is, it's like how it will matured the long of the time,

but this first impression that you had with him, this conversation with this conversation with him. And he's talking about the postura of his,

he was, batheed pesed the derot in him, you think, like, how not it, like,

O'Anson-Silva, yeah, that's a guy that had a manned, and when he had been, was a shock.

The Charles is a guy that, he's a person, he's is a customated to get to get to

the level that he's how you how you can't how you he's the postura

of the next a last you will not really the way to the way to the way

you can't we can't we can't we're in going to get the not not mud the essence of him

I'm not sure you obviously that the whole lot minutes after the lute I think everyone

knew he was completely abat he was a team of him was a time it was a time it was a

not for all the circumstances but in the day when I when I said I said

he was he was was sort of more the climate was with the team of the team of the

team of the team of the guys were more making, more making, more making more making the obviously

they were in not even he'd not even if he had been got in the car would be

talking the carnet there's playing the summer, saying that's you feel you're

they're abatits but they were just a little bit a little more alex and he's even, and he

said he said to bring the back to speak the conversation to talk with my

team to talk with the other the or casca, not only on octagon, but in the life, to super the difficulty, this is ineguable.

And I think he will will be able to be able to be able to be mentally of this. Now, if this will be a new escalada for a new title shot, then it's difficult, because there's that thing, maybe,

maybe there's, perhaps pass the alt of his own of his, maybe it has passed the time, and this happens with any other than necessarily because he's aballated or abatified mentally, right? And, maybe this happens

with Chais, but, like, mentally I have the certainty that he's a person that's

that's going to get a lot of that's going to be a new reenado of his, then it's difficult to

know, just he getting these possible challenges, that we're going to do Darius

and the other than Aboub wentseal in the decision, you see in him a

job good to Chars if it's this is the question that the UFC decided to mark

I think Yeah, I think it would be a game for Chalice because it's a guy that like he's

like he's like he's getting the time of his like the UFC to be the most the contenders

if it's for in the real, poling to for Chars because in the alge entire of

the we don't have the opportunity to see him not even the world to be better to be

better for him because we know Chars is a guy that comes a origin of

Mild he doesn't he don't he don't he doesn't the barrier of communication

with the public international, and he made three duties of the States Units, and more one in Abu Dhab, in the Emirates. So I think that he did a,

this made a good image international of him, you know, that the public, you know, he was able to he could be he

to get him to do it, I think it would be a good match-up to Chars, you know, like,

it's a guy that has, there's, many, various victories of the most different forms possible,

he, he has victory winning on the chow. There's a victory gaining for knockout, there's the last few

the last few the last time very versatile there's a job for Sharii and it's good too it's a good

and the victory can be very good and the deroad also could be really a really really he makes for

to everyone he wants to I continue here, I'm I'm a number one contender continue here I'm

I'm coming to get to a guy that I'm being very but he but he per

also he he just comes to go to a little more of the scale,

you know, to work to get to get to get to get the center right. And it's

he can't get a walk the return to the end of the end of he's in he's

he's he can't do you know, I'm the first of the field here because

I just got this two two guys because I know, but the question is

Maracheb will be the champion even if he's to front the Valka

he's in Australia. He just he's he's he's opposed, because for me, it's a total

sense. Bokanova's is a guy very good, it's a questionable, but I think the difference of

the time would be very very great. And then see the Marachev did what did he's

against the Charles, it's difficult to doubt this guy now. Yeah, you imagine,

you know, this game, this wrestling absurd of he, he, he's, he,

he's, he's, he's, he's a little, he's, he's small,

he's, it's difficult of him escape even. I also I also think,

like it would be a would be a would be a duel like a question and a yeah,

yeah, like the UFC probably is like the kind of the kind of

the cabib 2.0 in this sense, an guy, uh, a gueston a wrestler

to do make great luthas the cartel of his not perfeited but it quite this

he can he can't be doing the kind of where the cabibib and there the figure

the carib literally for behind of him So I think the FCV, he's like this, and for that maybe,

yeah, yeah, it's a first defense of the seaturon of his either, and it's a other champion

of the other category of the category of the back. It's true, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like,

I'm sorry, for your time, I'm recuperating again, of a long voyage, thank you much for

participation here on the podcast. I'm, I'm going to see in the FC Rio in January, I'm I'm seeing

too, as I'm it's a Cart here, for in a while, needs to a tempering a more.

Thank you a lot of for doing to do you know to do your make a lot of your social and read the

work. Well, thank you again for the presence. If God want to be in the

FCRille also. I think talking about a durin against Masvidal, it's a

time per a temper or more. It's excellent. Yeah, but you have to bring,

for example, Amanda, had to come in to come to come in The Cardi needs of a

LUTA Mereventy, Paul, Davidson is a great lot of a champion, but it's a

quarter a lot of Morrow yeah, he's all kind of too much that the other

three-luts have been good, but the fourth time, yeah, it's a

kind of yeah, exactly, and, because what, what comes, for the

you know, for a person, you know, the brando in Mexico, is being a phenomenon

there, yeah, the FC is a phenomenon with he, and I think

for this guys want to do this lot of the good, well, I'm doing

I'm a work on ESPN cobro, I'm on the site there's so the website of

the USPen people me encounter, on Twitter, R-G-G-O- D-D-

D-D-O-N in the final, Gustavo-Fal-O-O-N- and on Instagram I'm there Faldonico

that also post a lot of my work, so who can want to me

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to do a challenge different in the career, the Anderson, who has entraned lenders of MMA, has been a legend of box, now will be enfrent a lends of YouTube, let's say, the Jake Paul,

who's doing the bono in the box, let's be just, but, first, Dora, thank you for the participation here on podcast. How are you going to be able to work with the Anderson

for this desire inimaginable a years ago and now is going to do the paper, right? First, thank you for more a good,

to be with you here, this podcast, and we're trying with the same seriousness, the same compromise. As you well,

the young, he's, I've got the grand champions, grand lenders, the sport, for me, it's the moral of all the time

all the time. He's strewn in the box professional or international with the ex-campion of the world. Jules S. Chavez-Juneo, in his house, in the state of Javisko, for more than 50,000 people. In the second, he was in,

he fought against Tortis, no, caught, or, and with the same, serenade. It's a very disciplined. It's a guy that loves much sport, which is a lot of the box,

never had a son to fight box when I was in the FC, and, unfortunately, no, didn't have this opportunity, and now, opportunity to do do what he goes,

it's very motivated, uh, the day that's a good work, I think it's a normal,

the new normal, the sport more impugued of the world, with a YouTube like he with a million of

people, I'm a aggregation, to get a great challenge, that is a land

like, but we also, we're also on our side of the car, we're

working with much sered determination, the camp here in more of two

months, more of two months. The Jake He's put a girl a young, determined, he does a bellow job in a new of promotion, it's a super event. And we're a very well prepared,

and the most important. The most important. Annes, he's very motivated for this grand show. And what I mean, because, when we said, he's a man of sport, he's a champion of the UFC during a much time,

he's a very good in the box, so in theory, for Anneson, to confront a YouTuber, for more that he had good victories in the box,

gained a ex-victor to the F. For the Anderson, he don't have nothing to get to

get him, because he is front of a guy that not not in his sportively

talking, it's a great star, the Anderson will gain much money,

but sportively not a lot that will bring, gain of Jake Paul

not not not so he can to gain to the United and

he not not so he can get to the Vittal B. how

how How how motivar the Anderson sportively talking for a challenge that maybe

not, that in the not be in not not be a greatios so. I disagree.

For me, it's a great deal, it's a new normal, it's to be a great

atletters to box, of other arts martiales, infreting athletes, or

YouTubers or people who are people, and it aggregates to work. It's a new

that's a child, strong. The most sport is of contact. Never devisedimal the adversary. Never. I've worked with

a sports of contact for more of 40 years. And we've learned in the base, always respect to your anniversary.

And for this, when we train us much, we've shown the respect. I think it will aggregate so,

will help the sport. It's a great show. It's, it's, opening many

the sports more better than the world, as I've said, this girl, are

a different differentiated. He and the brother, he, the brother, he's getting a battle, he's getting a little brother, he's got a lot of the brother

against, under Anders-Silva, he's doing a career correctly, subbing de-graw for degrade. Today, is a legend,

the M.A., but it's being done to work in the boss but it's made with any the world, all the champions

of the world were made so, and we can't subistimal the J.C. clear, we're quite,

we're much of our work, we're much in terms, for your experience, for your discipline in the training,

for your motivation, because it continues motivated, and so motivated, this motivated very. And many times, this girl is doing public who are not come to see

whence, ands, and they're going to have this opportunity now to to be in the box. So, I'll see agregate

much, will be fortleasing much in our sports, and it's a great challenge, it will, be a great show, a grand show,

and I believe, with all respect to the way that we're always to respect to the adversary, in the front of a great victory of Anders. You said that the Jake Poe

is a degrade to the ground, he started infreting the guy of the NBA, then he went to Tyron Woodrow and Benachkin who are wrestlers, not are the strikers, but have much experience in the M.MA.

You think that now this degrade but he was from an wrestler for an Anderson-Silva was a pass more than a perna, maybe?

That's so, he's being fronting now really a strike in reality. He's going to a lenda of the trocaation, a specialist in boxing, a specialist in Muay Thai.

I'm training much the box. I'm trying to train much of box. He has been a lot of specialities. He assimila with a lot of capacity. I've worked with 20 years, a 19 years, and a few years, we're almost working, always, and now the preparation for a MA. And now, the preparation is a much more

more than a lot of the team. He's, he's at the fight of, he's in a lot of Chavez, just with box more than, more of a year, almost, so we're very confident. Before, today,

he's movement as a boxer, today, he boxe and in the reality, he boxeer, and then to be

a lot of the velocity, not a movementation, it's normal in him the movementation, which is a difficult for

the categories of his move, and gopia the form that he gopia. So,

we are very motivated for this event, we're accompanying all the promotion

of the the He was a little job, a new of promotion, he'll be also be able to prepareing

much, and Anderson, here, as always, the discipline in the training, we're working, a lot of the sport,

Waberts, Conceions, the team American, so we have a team very strong, once we've invested in your training,

with all respect, there's always all the other, his adversaries. When the Cheke Pohn

infrentable the Ascrey and the people who critivable him, that he not

in front strikers, and are in front the wrestlers, many people, even the Danan White said, I want to

see he's going to let him get him to get him to him front him and he thought that much

he's not, you know, he's not, you know, he's not, you know, I'm repeating. He's doing the work correct, subbing de-graw by de-degree. I think the de-grawl really, he'll

make a little, but it's attitudes of each one. So he's been in the condition to confront A Anders, we're doing working for a threat-fort, a young, so it's a job-to-fact normal

with a box-a-door, down for de-grawl. And now, he will have really, in the front a specialist in the procaation. We've seen, we've just came

the Ekepoor-Gopian. It's an athlete young, and a strong, that has a power in the hand, he's been

being being he being being being used to be able to and he's he's been tested definitely to find a

am, an Lema, a strike a specialist in a trocal a time, a specialist

a lot of time, distance, a much good, he's very well train, he's very well motivated, that's the

we know, when the athlete pereg, the first, the end, the end of the end's the

contrary. Apart of the 47 year, it's very motivated. You mark the first train. First train, it comes to

X hour. He's 15, 20 minutes, a half hour. The second time. It's a

hour. It's 20 minutes, a half hour. So, the motivation of it is incredible,

and it also, it motivates. This is a team, it's very united, it's a very happy

with all this that's happening. For me, it's a privilege to be to be

going to almost 20 years and to be part of this moment,

that is a is that's working the world the job this girl

I'll repeat a job incredible of the work with the woman David RAND

Dio David RICK debated all the records of PEPT and we don't know how

the Jake Paul is leading with this in terms of emotions of

nervousism to start in front Wieneson Sylva but we know he is

fan of Anns Syva since he he's a with the kids, when Anderson, when

I think I'm a, say, I'm a thing, how you think that this can impact on him,

when he entered into he's got to get a point, he's a guy who's my idol

in my life of my whole so how is he can't make with him, and affect

the proper , the same, the same, the same, the world, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, He's in the promotion of the Lutra, where he was made the convict for him before he's to look at him. So really,

it depends on the head of his now, the form that's support this pressure. And how much go get in the day of the

war, it's going to be the other the athlete. So, really, it's a situation that we'll

see in the day of the how he will be in the ring, and to get in a ring, and he's,

I'm carrying of the M.A. The moral of the time. So, then you will see the power

the power of he supports. So, eight rounds of three minutes in this the

fight. The fight is official with a round of three minutes for a time, and the

box of official. Not a lot of the submission, a lot of official. The Annesot Silver, he

has, so eight rounds at the disposition to attack, to do the

game, he never was a guy to start to come from from him, he

always, he was always the to study much, to media the distance, let the guy to get a

little to the idea to do the same thing to do you know, guard those the devised proportions,

because you know that the guy is much more young that he he beats a lot of five minutes.

There's an last thing, there's an artist, so is a class, gradually. The Dick Poh,

the world, And you go, and you're growing in a lot. I think the initial, emanating, gopian, goopian, gopian, I always say,

the knockout, he is a consequence of goods. And he's going, connecting the gopies, and the knockout will be very close. I think,

an lastro of, I mean, in the luthers of five rounds, five minutes. So, it's very well, well,

prepared for three rounds, eight round of three minutes. And the thoughtament, and then, gradually, and, gupion,

mined an adversary, then, and then, and, and then, have a condition physical, incredible,

is very well prepared, physiologically, physically, technically, and tactically, it's that you. I think the

time is our otheriard, and we're growing gradually relatively. A we know, but when enter the patada

of Anneson, it's a problem, we feel, the titoortis came in the first round. In your question,

you think that this look at the 8th, the 7th round, or you think the Dikpo

is, you know, Well, the box The great The great star of box is The great privilege is in the knockout But as well, I always

I always say, I'm a day of day in the academia, I'm in a interview, the knockout, the consequence of the good Gopps. Anse, it's very well prepared technically.

It's rapid, to effective, with a good notion of time and distance. I think we're going to connect to gops, and mining, mining,

combining, for that this there's a much in the knockout. I believe it, I believe that once he went to knockoutier I don't know

the round but I think the point of it's just mined him point on point on as I'm

we're not we're not we're doing the people who was doing a path to pass a path in the form

correct and more and more you're just going to get a strike a special

and the he was copyate and he got he's got to he's

trying to find that he's so RANns so so I think I think that can't

all to know the consequence of the good goopes. We're going, gopian, goopian, and the knockout will be very close, if

God does he does. The United States, the United, like you know, it's a lot, not, is he coming up to every more of the 50 years of age, but he's not in a vitality, in a disposition,

a way of a legion, like if he had in the first of the career in the UFC. What the objective that you think he has? I think it, is, at part of

going to do you, or make a lot of money, or make a lot of exhibition like the role in Dubai, or the he's the case of

there's a chance of we know there's a chance of the person who's in a category of a person of

a character rankeated there a girl town of 30 years, someone who is with a sturtain

world so of boxing Anderson I'm what does he he still he's like he will

look at more until 49 years he said that's good You're going to be preparing for this, because he's my

the father of the athletics. If he's motivated, I think he's motivated. I think he's not more for the money for this motivation. He likes to the adrenaline, to get a peso,

the camp, this energy of the team, all the part tech, the part tactic, the preparation, the privations, and it's in this

world for many years. When I so live to the family and for the training. repose, the food,

and I think that's all the whole of all the we're in we're not we're not

we're not we're not we're not things good, more things will be going,

continue, and the first of past, the first thing is is to

get to Joe Paul, I believe that I think in the

future he will be being front another another I

would I think I always I say I I don't know, because I think it's a thing that would happen,

I believe it's a future next, I hope that happens. He'll be able to find him my weather. I think it would be a thing incredible, because Anderson has no more nothing to prove. Myelder no more nothing to prove. So I think

it's been to be things that motivate him. Many times you can't create a little bit of a girl, today, but there's really going to make a difference. I think that's really will make a difference. I think that then it's a thing an idea of

the most of the time, with a lot of a tantal of box, it would be a lot of things that's

something that's something that must be the idea you know, can be the impossible to make this

this work to do the Mewether against the M. No, no,

no, that's a lot with a little more than RAN- than RANsa

can't also, I can't combine the battle, the exhibition, I think tranquill would be

A great thing for the promoters, for the televisions, for the sponsorsators, for the fans who am a box, a MMA,

and I accompany Wandsons, Mayweather, that would be the more. I think he no. The P. would not beauntary

no. It would beckery a price combined. Because, as I said, the Logan Poe, who

in front of Mayweather, is much more peser than the than the show, the exhibitions

of Mayweather this he gave the corner have been counter atletas, or of a level more low, technically

talking, or athletes men, he did in the end of year, in September, in Rising, against a Pes-Penna, that was Sakura, there wasa, the RISN,

he would be being front an athlete of an high-simbing, you think he would be in this point of vulnerability to confront

an answer? Because, with a certain time from the first from the first first, since the Conor, who is a

guy who knows what are doing, or is an an athlete of a man of a man of

a man who don't have any time like the experience like it's a lot of that would be

a lot of a lot of an moment exact for the two. The two after being,

back to go, walking to show, this is this encounter of this is

very good. I think the person would be the pencili, Now, the Mayweather

will know that in front he will implant a great athlete who has a power in the hands and will respond the altitude. This really

can difficult a little the decision of Flory Meilather. You think if they'd be able to a lot of

going to be a lot of her? How would you think that would be the country? The war the official

is difficult for the weight would have to be much to be able to make sure to be able to

make sure to be a great a lot. It would be a great a lot. Glad you my brother has an experience very great in the box. But Anderson is a

guy fantastic. He's incredible. He assimil a technique with a much possibility, he has much aptitude. He's dedicated to what he does, I believe. I believe it. I believe it would. And I'd show. And I'd show me. I'd

showly a great performance. I don't know. Manor, Dorep. Thank you, for your time in this semester semester year in the States United. I'd prepare a few days

of the year to sign in the month. And good luck I'm a few week of the team against the Jake

Powey Valle, let's get a great event and we'll go to see with a great victory

if I'm sure you know, thank you get to both, you don't know these opposites

in the last of the Rloves to Peson not a first not but it's

already just rolling at PFL but but I think no in the FCE

is the first that happens? I think yes we we just

yeah we I'm I'm against my my brother is the first time in the UFC,

I've just had just with the other coaches, right? That's that's

going to do you but I'm my mom the first way, the end of the corner of

Andreye, the corner of Andreye, is the Mike Brown, Moco, and the Paulino

right, the same who's the same who's and so but, but,

it's the shock of the jobs, uh, my arm, will be there with a confes-on. And how is the

work, like, because the Gabriel is in the T-T at the most time, and he he took a point to you and to go to there, how is, how you

did you get to him at the T-T? So, as you said, he opened the ports to me here, we're always we've been

conversing, we just came talking earlierly, since he came, he said, he said, that I had to come to come to here,

because the work here was a manorne, and, and first, for the quality of the job of the people, and second, by the necessity, especially by the number

of athletes that we had here in America Top Team. Many people, Gabriel, was over-carregated, and many people would have disamparrared. Many people who were

without who came to train, a box of quality, because modesty apart, the work is a a job differentiated. And when Gabriel came here, the Gabriel came as a trainer of Moecano,

but everyone wanted to train with Gabriel. And when I came, many people, I wanted to train with me to the gallery, and when I came, many people, I wanted, and when I came, many, you know, said, you were nice, and thought, and so, we, in fact, it was very natural my inner source.

Innocence. In fact, in the middle of group, here. Gabriel had had done, all the, in the middle of the camp, in the I've been in the Yeah, I've been Yeah, I've Yeah, I'm And I'm back

The last one A lot of the last A lot of Lottomah Mohamed, I I went right to come right to my mom, me picked in the airport,

then I came here to the people, and here's here so here today. And how are you said, you were in

the sides opposed to PFL and what was, how is the first time that this happened

it was strange for you two did that with this dynamic? No, man, we're from the box, no box, this is very natural, corrikeero, we participate in competitions,

where we can't put more of a same category, as the guys are good, the guys are coming on each one of one on the one of the other, and then, to get to be in front, just can't have a champion. It's happened several times of the people to fight against, uh,

especially when my brother was in the team's Brazilian, and I was in the San Gaitano. Yeah, and then, I was an auxiliary of my brother on the Adie San Caitano

because my result of my man had as a general of the professional in the team of the team of the

team of the team of the general in the adean the stateano who were very good, serve you

the other who were very good, but not were not not even were the we always

we're trying so we're trying on the selection and I working on the AD but I think it's

natural this but the culture is different yeah there there many the people of Jiu-Jitsu in the M.MA. In the Jiu-Jitsu, I've seen,

we've got to be, in the final of the preparato the world. This is imaginable. Understand. Final of the time of the world, I'm going to open for you? This no exists, guy, in the box. We, we just not I don't have in a corner, but there was a lot of the Mons Falcans? I was. My brother was. I, the one of the two

one, man, man. I was. I was with him. I was with Ghos, who he was in the corner of the skiff, was the time. Well, so it was, in the box is totally different. The guys rach forrassed, no come. Even because the guys

rachaporado in the train, you know, poach, and then get there's going to, a position

in the ranking, or aida for selection, aida to sell- or a dollar in the NFL,

for a, try, there's a try, can't open, yeah. But in the MMA

there's much, this thing, you know, I think that in, here,

you say, here, you say, there's of the same team same to entreat up team,

a team, a team, a group big team, a group that's different, because it's been a lot of

many times for a team in the team of men and far as this idea. You're saying, you know,

for example, when the Dudanth confronted the Loro, that they never preenav together but the Loro

never never had more in a new union and it was a situation, a drama, in a

good sense and a narrative, of this here, imagine that, by the ATT, being a team

very great, the people try to be in a way way different, because it's not you know to do you

do you know in the day-a-day- in academia, no? No, with certain, there's a day that's

a day that's a day, understand, so it's, from all the world. In all the world,

so, so here we can't divide it, we can't put, there, there,

there, there, there, there, there, there, working with the people, so nobody

is a person, nobody doesn't get to get to everyone, we can't give to the

space is great and it's sometimes, the guys when it's not the time, not the not the

not, because the academy is so great, they're trying on the other, nobody's nobody's

all right, so, so, specifically for this love, and the people, just got to

get to the same around, you, don't know, You tronvado in vestiare. He's been to dover. There's even a bigadier.

I did a bigadier with Pez-on, because the thing, that the Pezong, he trained in the morning, with my mom, right? And the Arloffesk, he, he, he train more the time with me, for the

schedule of Andre, we had to move a time of the training and then, and then the day when he went to train to the same hour. It's the same time.

It's the same time. I said, I said, to the Peson, I'm going to be the same. I'm sorry, he was trying to said,

he's training to try You know, then, then he started that Esen, and then he was going to be a lot of people, people are left in the ball. Yeah, it was very much of a lot. And many people think that the Andre, for he's a man, so,

he's a man, so, he thinks he's an car arrogant, but, oh, he's a guy super, at least with me, like my man, who, who is a trainer, and he's, and he's, always, yeah, he's always, never, you know, he's never,

never, didn't, you know, no, it's, exactly, people, it's an journalism, acime of all, and here in America Top Team, just by saying, you know, respond to what you

said, about about, about about to be the things, to be able to, this is inevitable here, car,

because it's, everyone are in a corrid, some are in a career, for the title, some others are in a

carid to enter in top 15, some others are in a course to not get to be made to go, so,

so everyone don't go, and one one or another, and one will be the other, and another,

you know, I'm natural, the with naturality, because it's been happened with a lot of frequency,

and it's not the first and it's the only the there's a person who can be able to be able to

be made, you're trying each of your own your, before she was made something,

did that did that did this sense of training of preparation? No, for you

have a last minute of the pen, the last month, the I prepared Blagois.

Yeah. Blago. I was my mom that was with Blago. And then, and then, it's...

It's... I've... Yeah. I've had one occasion of I train to my mom can't

train to train him, I've never been but I'm in lines in lines in lines

I'm my man who train on Andreye has time, I'm I'm trying the

boy, uh, from the boy, from that from that from the there are

three luts yeah. I'm and and how you how you

know, and how you analyze them the pool of the team this what the

most of the most of the difficulties in the side of the box that one presents

for the other I think in the person the the velocity of Andreye

because the Andrew is a guy who he has a kind of a form physical

a good and he he knows the he has the person's a way to

the so we're working to put minimis the risk and do a

game that is a more intelligent for you know and I think in relation to the pesown

is the the velocity of the because the force the person is a person is a guy

very strong especially in the first round he is a really a guy he is a

really a time that we're working every we're trying to try to keep this quality

explosive of the particularly in the little bit to maintain the our distance,

a little, a distance is more than a different, and it's a way, and it's not to talk about to

talk about a lot of, but it's, not about a lot of, this is what that's the thing,

it's like, because, like, you're all, you're all, people, all the stories, the family,

the boss, and now, I mean, normally, there's a rezening, you're trying, this guy,

this guy, to try this guy, to try, and what you can't, but you're, but you're

not, because you're just the It's not not very a but we

don't be able to it's that we're a little we're talking the cards

abertas like a kind of kind of kind of that's a kind of that's

a athlete that exactly exactly and if there a thing we preza

always prezor was for for our professionalism it's from the because

the time of the time we're we're we're we're we're to the selection, and when

we came to here to come to the class of professional. Inc., there even, there's even a thing that my

mom was talking and when we were going to our father, he was a putto, because he said, he said, he said,

he said, and I didn't get to the people, I said, no, man, how I'm,

I just talking about my time, I was, I was, I was, I was, but you,

but you castes this with that, because this is a woman, because this is a one, because the selection number

And the guy of the competition, I was the guy was the guy I was making, I was a matchmaker I was a matchmaker in the country

I'm sorry if you see if you record a program that was over a week was the night was the

band of sports was I was I was I was the and I always always always I always

always it was always so I'm I'm always I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm more than I

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