MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Deiveson ‘de saco cheio’ e Bethe a caminho do boxe

Episode Date: March 31, 2022

UFC flyweight champion Deiveson Figueiredo explains why he’s asking Dana White to book his next title defense against Kai-Kara Franca instead of Brandon Moreno, and why he’s planning on training w...ith fellow UFC titleholder Charles Oliveira. Retired fighter Bethe Correia reveals there is no chance she ever returns to MMA, but could make the jump to boxing or bare-knuckle boxing. Deiveson Figueiredo, campeão dos moscas do UFC, que revela um pedido a Dana White: ele quer enfrentar Kai-Kara France na próxima defesa de título, e não Brandon Moreno. Ele conta, ainda, por que pretende treinar com Charles do Bronx. Na sequência vem o papo com Bethe Correia, ex-desafiante ao cinturão de Ronda Rousey, que conta por que nunca mais lutará MMA, e o desejo de competir no boxe (com ou sem luvas). Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 about MMA on this immense photo sphere I'm Billerne Chris, correspondent of the website
Starting point is 00:01:00 American MMEFire in Brazil and I'm in a company of two great name of the sport.
Starting point is 00:01:06 The first interview is with a champion pesum Mosca of W.C. Davidson Figueroero to give you
Starting point is 00:01:11 to F.C. to come in a quarter Lutz in Morae and why he can train with Charles
Starting point is 00:01:18 of Broncos in San Paulo. In the sequence came a back-up with a recent abasentated a rexed a stentoron
Starting point is 00:01:24 Rouse in the FC and now Donna Rouse in the Parraibia. She'll never not run to the MMA, but that's
Starting point is 00:01:31 the want to compete in other sports. The first is the God of the war, and she starts
Starting point is 00:01:35 again. And the other side of the now we have the champion Pesomosco of the FC
Starting point is 00:01:45 Davidson Figuero, who started the rumor there would be in to be
Starting point is 00:01:50 going to Bramorneau Bramony for the fourth first once. Now it
Starting point is 00:01:53 is just just to be a little bit the story I'm a little little
Starting point is 00:01:57 a podcast one more one of the man we're here. Opa, let's be let me
Starting point is 00:02:02 let's talk let's let's talk my man man it's in time, man it's a man,
Starting point is 00:02:08 so me came in a vehicle of the press, the journalist of Ruan Auan and
Starting point is 00:02:12 tweeted that was starting the negotiations there to make the fourth lute
Starting point is 00:02:18 between you Brno Moreno after after three luts spectacular, I was just I was thinking of this fourth lute, but in the last
Starting point is 00:02:25 Saturday, I've got a excaroves, and you just went to the Reds Social, you know, cancel this poor total, then you? Let's go ahead and I, and what are in what pet are the situation in category
Starting point is 00:02:39 now? Are really negotiating just a lot with Brena Molyne, and now you're trying to move those plans? What's happening? there.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Carta, I, I, I, I, I, I didn't, this,
Starting point is 00:02:54 this, this, the, this, this, he said, I, I said,
Starting point is 00:02:59 I said, I'm, he's, I'm, I'm, I'm not, because he's marked
Starting point is 00:03:03 to the lot to me, uh, and I, my day, my debt,
Starting point is 00:03:06 come too, too, I'm, I'm, recuperating, this leson, but,
Starting point is 00:03:10 I'm, I'm, training with Eric, Barracinin, and the wrestling, I was defending a
Starting point is 00:03:16 quaver the little bit of the beast is tortuino. So, why are you are marked a lot to me,
Starting point is 00:03:22 car? And there two months I have seen in a dispute of a sturted.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I don't not at the hour, I'm, let me just I just a little more
Starting point is 00:03:32 my sturtain, I'm like, I'm kind of that's just a car to come up and I'm
Starting point is 00:03:39 did a parted on the valide and it seems he understood
Starting point is 00:03:42 but this, this, this question, I'm going to no, this
Starting point is 00:03:48 look at this look against the man who was a racist with me, he's
Starting point is 00:03:53 followers of his family social, me calling the macacco, the trainer of Brandon Morano
Starting point is 00:03:59 picked a photo mine, he put a photo a person, and it's
Starting point is 00:04:03 a little bit this, simply for this guy not me doesn't
Starting point is 00:04:07 but he doesn't this attitude racist of him. The to do to do it's a
Starting point is 00:04:12 face it, I versus Cai-Cara-France The Lansk what you said you know, how is you
Starting point is 00:04:17 know how you think that would be a date that would be possible you
Starting point is 00:04:21 go to the octogro? It's on a caroage I would would I'd
Starting point is 00:04:28 there to October November for there is a a it's a major
Starting point is 00:04:34 it's good it's in the cartilage of the right
Starting point is 00:04:38 you see that my did my did you I made encamination for the UFC
Starting point is 00:04:44 Validic it's going to encamination for them a lesone that's a good from the night for
Starting point is 00:04:51 day, I have one I've got got to suck a manoppa that this pertubes my patience
Starting point is 00:04:58 the stress that I'm doing in the training agarriads are trans there are training that my
Starting point is 00:05:02 men will be there's doing doing the game with without
Starting point is 00:05:05 just for this for these lesions. And the last you don't want to be more than the question of why you don't wish there to go ahead and everything.
Starting point is 00:05:18 The things that have happened in the past between you, because it clearly it didn't comeode and with a reason. Imagine that you also should be a sack of chey to enfrent her, there were three lutes in a quarter-lut. The UFC never did this in the story, four-luttes
Starting point is 00:05:32 in the same people, even more, champions, you know? You're in this, too, of sack-cheed, car. I'm in a sack full of Brandon Moreno
Starting point is 00:05:41 and the full of getting with that music out of the hotel that I don't
Starting point is 00:05:47 understand, a music Mexican there, I don't know what I'm talking about that you
Starting point is 00:05:51 but the guys, he's a lot of this guy let the fire to go and
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm gonna with Kikara Franca France, it's the case of Kekara France front of Kekara Kansi Kentorov two guys of the elite
Starting point is 00:06:09 of the division, it was a great and he was he was going to wincing for points what you think you're
Starting point is 00:06:14 in general of this of this little of this lute man I poste my fishes
Starting point is 00:06:20 on him I'm a guy who caught he was a caroed he's a strike
Starting point is 00:06:25 very good big he would be he would be he to block to block these
Starting point is 00:06:28 skaters the russo so there has got he got he
Starting point is 00:06:32 he mat was that he not there no there no there no
Starting point is 00:06:34 So, and it was knockouted It's for that I want to look at this guy, the guy who who can't even I believe in my I think, I think
Starting point is 00:06:46 much more in my Jigitz, I I think much more in my Rishol. I'm a guy that comes from the Luka-Mara-Jua' A Luka-A-Morah a pegada is very a pretty similar with Ristler. I know
Starting point is 00:06:57 can't put it back back, I can't stabilize very, I'm so I'm just a Baxter Jiu-S, my The game favorizes me, in the same of the Caricara Front.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So it's a lot that I want, it's a lot to do you. The the case of what's the other than you
Starting point is 00:07:11 do you know, what's the problem? It's a trocalation, man. He has to take care in the
Starting point is 00:07:16 tryation he has a efficient. He has a mata cobra that's called, an overhand there,
Starting point is 00:07:25 very perigose so, so taking care, a kind of a style to me, I'm a
Starting point is 00:07:30 man, so I'm a The last lot is to take care because one of the two moms can enter with a lot of potency. He's been to three victories this now for points.
Starting point is 00:07:40 But he's two, before he no-kaltion of Meera House, like you mentioned, the Cory Garms, and before, the Roger and Bon Torin. How is you
Starting point is 00:07:46 see, getting him? Certainly, knockoutying him, that he will try to me, the man will talk on him,
Starting point is 00:07:51 and he will go to go and he will do it. You think that can be similar to the Lutuminavitz,
Starting point is 00:07:57 for example? I think will be very similar when the the Brandon Moreno the last when my mom
Starting point is 00:08:05 when he he'd he'd be the source of he was salvo by the gongue when I
Starting point is 00:08:10 when I encacheed the triangle of his armes he's a guy who's a great cartel in terms of
Starting point is 00:08:17 a number it's a guy in he's over the role of the career for example he had
Starting point is 00:08:22 he had he per he didn't he did the BNN the BACC but you think
Starting point is 00:08:28 why you think he he, that he merits the TyroShot, is because it's a hype new, it's a new, a new,
Starting point is 00:08:35 for you, to you think that he's the guy of the moment, man? Well, he had a
Starting point is 00:08:43 evolution, right, I, I saw a view a idea, he, he,
Starting point is 00:08:47 he, he, he, despite he got his pastas. And with this
Starting point is 00:08:54 evolution, he gained the guy of the name, and for So, I I chose to
Starting point is 00:09:01 to look for me. Because he battee justly in the guys that I wanted to
Starting point is 00:09:07 simply, this is the reason that I want to get in it now. And you also mention
Starting point is 00:09:13 on the social that you think the Morano should be infant the
Starting point is 00:09:16 Pantoja, yeah, who has also two times, to see who is
Starting point is 00:09:20 who is the person of the field, no no, I think
Starting point is 00:09:23 he's devending this lute. Pantosha is devend this lot to Brano Moreno. So,
Starting point is 00:09:29 the two are in front he's in a field to the dispute of the scutory. I'm
Starting point is 00:09:35 winning the Kaka, France. And who you think that's that this
Starting point is 00:09:39 semifinal, say you think Pantos does the music in Fantasco Gain a third
Starting point is 00:09:44 of him? Or you think the Morae can't that he did a good.
Starting point is 00:09:50 The Brando has to open the end to have to If not, it will be to end up. But if you continue on that
Starting point is 00:09:58 pegad, the Pantorja has had much more strike than he, despite the Brando had better than
Starting point is 00:10:02 the box, but Pantorja also also Jiu-Jitsu, not. Jiu-Gitz better than the Brano
Starting point is 00:10:08 more than the more than a lot of a lot of Pantorja has to train there to win to
Starting point is 00:10:14 and be to have the so-soned and desired the revenge of him. In-Gent the FECD
Starting point is 00:10:23 not define when you're going to when you're going to be to your possible adversary, you're going to be the guy and cara France, if they're going toob this
Starting point is 00:10:30 fourth lot with Morana and so. Reparice, you're back in Belain, how in all the plans now for the next
Starting point is 00:10:34 months, the next few weeks, the next few times, is to be able to make a camp, what you're trying to do?
Starting point is 00:10:41 I've just I've got to train to, I'm doing the camp of my small, and back
Starting point is 00:10:47 a more some days, a month and we're going to be going to Las Vegas, that's the lute his
Starting point is 00:10:53 and then the Lutte his life. To get a R.Z.O. Debar R.C. Yeah, and then return to
Starting point is 00:11:03 Brazil, I want to do camp in San Paulo with a Charles. The next camp for this Lutte
Starting point is 00:11:08 with Charles? To the next one, I will do do a camp with Charnes there, but I
Starting point is 00:11:15 then I'll go to the United with Eric Baracin. I'm got to a conversation with Chars.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But why you've resolved to make this camp with him in San Paulo? This pre-camp to go to-Games? Well, it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:28 an experience, yeah, car. Charles is a phenomenon of Jujits. And, obviously,
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'm calling this guy, I'm going to get a little of this Jiu-Dadee, yeah. Coises I will
Starting point is 00:11:39 learn about. You know, that's not learn of Jiu-Gitz, but something of good I will bring to
Starting point is 00:11:43 that. This, without, so it D'U-G-D-S too. He's a more Jux-T's,
Starting point is 00:11:48 he's most more than the last the evolution of his last few years, the evolution of him, the proxation, the The rest, has the game of the game of
Starting point is 00:12:21 good, although to rarely use, because he prefer to say in a porrada but you
Starting point is 00:12:27 think he's the case the game between them. I've seen that he's going to get to
Starting point is 00:12:31 put up a porrida, he has to focus more in the Jijit of him and he have to
Starting point is 00:12:38 make a kick-box more sort in going to go into the last the last
Starting point is 00:12:43 he took a lot and he don't have to make this happen to let's
Starting point is 00:12:48 using the kickbox with a lot of much movementation to to collar in the wrestler, to put it to do the use of the Jiu-Gitzo
Starting point is 00:12:55 of his. And this he has to do with Justin Gates, man. You, you, you pretend
Starting point is 00:12:59 to talk when? I'm, I'm going to the Lutta of my man now? A date of
Starting point is 00:13:08 Luton his, the Luton of his M. So, then it's
Starting point is 00:13:13 United will go to come back long. The The marriage is out I'm going.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, I'm going, the marriage is almost going to be in June now, my casement of the
Starting point is 00:13:23 30 of June for there. So I have to be in Brazil and I'm going to call on him there,
Starting point is 00:13:29 with these guys, I want to have this experience, I never did this, I never
Starting point is 00:13:36 I never did from to be to train in San Paulo so I want to have this
Starting point is 00:13:40 experience, I want to train with these guys? And how is the experience
Starting point is 00:13:44 that you in the United. Ah, very good, my man. I was there were there
Starting point is 00:13:49 was an excellent guy of wrestling. Erika Barracin also, it's not
Starting point is 00:13:55 a to- it's a guy that's a car of the men, I've had a new
Starting point is 00:14:02 very good I've been with a other mind there to know, even to get to
Starting point is 00:14:08 my team in Brazil. What? What you would be you would be the second
Starting point is 00:14:13 as a trainer. Oh, Cerrodo, see, Sehuda, is a guy that, my man, no,
Starting point is 00:14:19 not it's a lot of he's considered the guy more more than the other the
Starting point is 00:14:23 UFC, right, but you saw that the guy implanted a game for me against
Starting point is 00:14:29 the Brandon More and the result of this, the centuron to back in
Starting point is 00:14:33 house. So it a guy that, the day to start to work
Starting point is 00:14:38 and enter in this zone of coach a lot of many people will,
Starting point is 00:14:45 I'll try to this guy a guy strategic the guy double champion the UFC
Starting point is 00:14:52 who don't want to try to train with this guy. It's a little, I'm the first
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm there I'm I've been a photo that you posted on Instagram recently
Starting point is 00:15:00 of the sofa with four the second also also
Starting point is 00:15:04 he was his many many many they were those don't
Starting point is 00:15:09 no the fact what when I I picked the cinturon out of the
Starting point is 00:15:14 UFC not me did, I would I'm not me do. So I bought,
Starting point is 00:15:20 I made to get a replicas of the conturons, but one but it was to be
Starting point is 00:15:23 to the coaches, you know, and then replicas not came at the time.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And the Sehudo me gave a centuron of him, he and preist
Starting point is 00:15:32 a thing and he to me go to a ombron to bring to
Starting point is 00:15:36 Brazil. But, but to be the the centuron, oh, guys, until the signoron, I conquests, but in the signoron, it's a centauron
Starting point is 00:15:45 me did. And, it's here with me, when it's for now, I'll have to get to go to my weapon. And so you're asking, because the UFC, every you defended the centauron, for the grand champions, so that Dimitio Johnson reclaimed this
Starting point is 00:15:56 in a time, that every time you did it, they'd give a new, and that now that has this centuron new, the new model of the new, instead of getting a centauron new, you get a ruby that you put a ruby, the redelio, there.
Starting point is 00:16:09 the citulon. So in instead of you get a citulon, they don't they don't give a citulon because the Seo was in Brazil. They just need to addicionar the ruby so.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yes, exactly. It's only adding to ruby. So, no ruby it's a medal a little that they did. And this medal
Starting point is 00:16:28 is that they remove a pet, a brilliant, and addioning it, I just need to this medal to them. Well, you're a man of vaca, yeah?
Starting point is 00:16:37 I don't know a citron in. It was every Yeah, it was to it was to do a centuron new,
Starting point is 00:16:44 man, it was a a desire enormous to get a new, because he had been a
Starting point is 00:16:49 thinking it was going to get a bit of it's good, I think it was more the ruby to get a
Starting point is 00:16:55 defense you don't defend the your you, you're reconquist so, then he
Starting point is 00:17:00 won't give the title new for, a citron this was this was my big
Starting point is 00:17:04 I did I did a big made me to make, and he He's rewrote, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:10 We did we have a break with him, but they will be able to be, and said that no. Because I had the original, and that I'd not win a bit. And you've already? You've already, I've already also, I'll tell you to show you, here, here is a peddra, the vermilinies, there's
Starting point is 00:17:25 four peddra, yeah. Now, this here is the design of the medal that I've had to have to leave for them. The medal is exactly so. Now, now they will add just this peddra here,
Starting point is 00:17:39 because a tattooage, she's done to do you? What you're going to do? When you're going to do you have more space? I have, I have two medallies this. Then I'll go to another other tattooage, then. Will have to put another tattooage
Starting point is 00:17:55 on the two glasses. Two medals. That's just, ma'am. That's just, ma'am. That's the next ruby be the fight against Caracas, no. Name Jesus, guys, poor, to get at the
Starting point is 00:18:04 fifth there, I'm looking the second, I'm looking, the name of the other Moreno there
Starting point is 00:18:12 there's a also, who's the man who's the don't the end of the fifth and I've
Starting point is 00:18:20 seen that I don't know so much too much I'm just to get to them, let's see,
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm glad to the time, thank you for your time. Thank you Corrieed in Belen.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Thank you, no, I'm going to a good in a good confirmation of the future, if you
Starting point is 00:18:37 see who came via, part of the God of the God of the God I'm more money, I'm
Starting point is 00:18:43 going to do back the Parahiva to talk about with Bette Correa and the interview starts just
Starting point is 00:18:49 just after the rapid interval commercial. And the other side of the line now we we're going
Starting point is 00:19:01 with Bette Correa, veteran of DFC that now are not being the
Starting point is 00:19:05 part talking other other objectives in the life professional. Be welcome to podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:11 A pleasure to talk to talk about you once a bit. Thank you. Thank you. For the convict always I've
Starting point is 00:19:17 always seen these news on the site, always news too polendical or not. Thank you. Thank you. The pleasure
Starting point is 00:19:25 is always to talk with you first to talk about this, how is the life now? You know, you've been
Starting point is 00:19:31 under the world as women like with a academy new, how is your day-a-day now that
Starting point is 00:19:38 not there that's that thing to get to work because that's going to be able to
Starting point is 00:19:43 make sure these these the last years for you know I think no
Starting point is 00:19:49 I think it's a lot of a lot of I think I think I think I'm more more
Starting point is 00:19:54 more confused and also and also I'm working in my
Starting point is 00:20:00 life I think I'm a adrenaline different but I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:20:04 have on the fish that I don't more in moment an athlete.
Starting point is 00:20:09 In the my head, I still have that I have a little every hour I'll have seen
Starting point is 00:20:14 a line on a lot and I'm oh, wait, there's a lot more more
Starting point is 00:20:17 more than I'm not not much time not so it's it was in October, not I think
Starting point is 00:20:24 no, I think no two years in the last my last a lot of my last
Starting point is 00:20:28 a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a car and to come in camp
Starting point is 00:20:34 when I see some a colleague, like, Reh in the campus, I said, Bish, Marita,
Starting point is 00:20:39 that's a sensation like the of the time, you know, that's a bit of that I don't support more,
Starting point is 00:20:45 that I'm still still the end the cycle of the MMA. So, when I see,
Starting point is 00:20:53 me give, I'm an anguish, like, I don't want to pass for this, so,
Starting point is 00:20:57 so, so, so, and I'm in this path, and I'm working very in the day and
Starting point is 00:21:02 the day the year, I continue I'm not for other things, to resolve a million
Starting point is 00:21:08 things, like the academy, to talk, the way that I want, I'm very exigent, very,
Starting point is 00:21:14 very, I want a project great, so I'm on the all over, looking,
Starting point is 00:21:20 and I'm planning all, I don't pay. It's a lot different, right? When you
Starting point is 00:21:26 when you when you said, when you said, what exactly this life of this life of
Starting point is 00:21:33 this but physically it's not had more the head to, burrugly in a camp
Starting point is 00:21:41 I think the the athlete I like to do but to get to go to get to go to
Starting point is 00:21:46 much something yeah I think physically not physically I think
Starting point is 00:21:51 I think I thought I was good time I don't me me mesonable
Starting point is 00:21:58 but but I think it's mentally I think a moment that we not
Starting point is 00:22:03 can't more. I think 90% of the doctors to stop the drug because of the
Starting point is 00:22:12 question psychological. Not a question physical. Because we think it the body of the body
Starting point is 00:22:16 of the body of the body of being too to continue to continue to continue to be
Starting point is 00:22:22 a noncee that really that really a problem with the body to not the
Starting point is 00:22:30 thing but when he decided for se, generally it's because it's a torture psychotic.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's a time that not more more than when you get to get in this point,
Starting point is 00:22:41 the BMEA is a bit more because you start a treatment of very much forced without
Starting point is 00:22:47 that's that that's that's cause a cause a increase to have
Starting point is 00:22:52 a legion there you can't be a can be can be irreversive so so
Starting point is 00:22:58 so you don't more with that one more that's this is
Starting point is 00:23:02 this only happens when it's when it's when it's when it's the end of the whole
Starting point is 00:23:05 athlete, I think not just not the I'm in not, I think it's when I'm
Starting point is 00:23:09 when I'm when you're a time to stop and it doesn't and I think it's
Starting point is 00:23:16 with a psychological I think the question of the public, you know, you
Starting point is 00:23:21 suffer very I think in the I was very genuine so for me was I'm
Starting point is 00:23:25 jogged all when I started a feeling a a maldd
Starting point is 00:23:28 of the sport of the of the people, of the academy, the public, of the Brazilian, no more than to be a bit more, you start to,
Starting point is 00:23:38 you start a, move, because why you you'd look? I'd, I'd like, when it was a good, it was a good, I'd feel like a new, it was a legal, and then, then,
Starting point is 00:23:50 then you, you'd start to this, you start to move much focus, because the people know that the hackers internet, torturred, or you'd like, I'd like, it'd really, you'd, I think that's not, it's a
Starting point is 00:24:02 not, the truth, so the society, the sooner in the floor, the people are no matter that you know, the doctor of the psychology is very pop
Starting point is 00:24:10 so I think there's a hour that's not not more, I'm doing some competitions but NMA no,
Starting point is 00:24:17 so maybe you see me in, I received many, I received many, I'm talking,
Starting point is 00:24:24 I said, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so I'm,
Starting point is 00:24:27 so I'm, maybe, judy, My nature because I think the competition never sells a person but who knows maybe there
Starting point is 00:24:35 but maybe a lot but also but never really for always if you're going to about this
Starting point is 00:24:40 thing about about but when you felt what you didn't be a different
Starting point is 00:24:45 and it was a torture for you my last minute yeah I'm
Starting point is 00:24:51 never getting to the end even so I think after the
Starting point is 00:24:54 loo of Rley that I don't have in Caper and it
Starting point is 00:24:59 It started to make more doing to do do training for more rapid than not so much like that's, I think
Starting point is 00:25:09 the last the last the last the lot of pushing, but until there was all was all
Starting point is 00:25:14 all I was a camp in Thailand Thailand was very nice, I think was very
Starting point is 00:25:20 nice, it was very nice then then then I started I think I always I think
Starting point is 00:25:25 there's kind of want to get to get to forced, thinking much,
Starting point is 00:25:30 I don't go ahead. It's a lot. It's much a lot of every day you're getting to be tired.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So I don't go ahead. So I'd not go back to me, to cover all the treatment, to do
Starting point is 00:25:44 do the perfect. He just started to get a more sad than alex. I mean this as well
Starting point is 00:25:51 a little the job. Then I'm going to make a morning, I'm training better. I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:25:56 go to the point of the strength, having to train it, that's really good. When you get to train, it's because not more more dangerous for you.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You know, you have to be able to cause a lot of lesions, also, I think that because of the many
Starting point is 00:26:16 the problems that I had my vista, that I've had a major that I think was a factor very,
Starting point is 00:26:22 very important too, because I started to train with fear and resonating my eyes. more one way,
Starting point is 00:26:28 you've got to pass more than one the same for a surgery. And I think it was very after the
Starting point is 00:26:33 horrible because I think was like to Marlborough to Walton that was that was in California,
Starting point is 00:26:40 that's you remember? You know? I was I was a day, I was to be a
Starting point is 00:26:47 little bit of my lute the world of course of the situation, and then the officer
Starting point is 00:26:52 you're so, you know, and it's so, so I think that this
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm, I feel with a lot of surgery in the eyes and I think that me made sure me just to be trying to protect a little bit more
Starting point is 00:27:07 my eyes during the training because the problem not the rata not, you know, it's a trangement, it's every day if you do something
Starting point is 00:27:14 a photo, because the other 15 minutes just one day, but I'm a lot of the day, very intensity and this
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm going to get very worried that I'm sure. And the Post, MMA, not a sport, like a ping pong,
Starting point is 00:27:28 that's, I'm going to go to be there and I'm going to go to be there if you don't enter 100% physically,
Starting point is 00:27:33 mentally, it's very perigoso for your life, you might happen a matter and move your life
Starting point is 00:27:38 for ever, like the lens of your eyes, or diseases and lesones grave-simus that,
Starting point is 00:27:44 you know, a, your career will happen to be here, but you'll be the rest of your life
Starting point is 00:27:50 in the MMI is a very big very, not, not, not,
Starting point is 00:27:54 not, not like the adult, the term in the carrievement, generally, most is in the 40s, it's in the 40s. So imagine, like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 a fratura of a cervical, because you don't are more so concentrated, so entreg as well, so my name is,
Starting point is 00:28:09 it's a sport and you have to have to be 5%. Because, if you can have really really a relation very
Starting point is 00:28:14 to get a more of the sparse, so, so, so, gop, gopbs,
Starting point is 00:28:20 and the cause desocements of the retent, not in the corner, report the eyes, it's
Starting point is 00:28:25 there in the time and you're in the time, you're in you're a lot, you get a lot,
Starting point is 00:28:30 you're better, you protect better, you get better, it's totally different. So I think
Starting point is 00:28:37 when, but the other than never can't be to be to be I just
Starting point is 00:28:41 I said, but I wanted to but I didn't continue to continue, so I'm
Starting point is 00:28:46 continuing until when my postate it was the FECC was
Starting point is 00:28:51 very very They were very nice. They were dispensed. They were dispensed. They conversed to me besie me and said that I took to put down the point
Starting point is 00:28:58 of my health, I'm concerned with my eyes. They're saying they're when I'd to stop. They've never thought. But I'm going to go back.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I told him to give a message to him. I said, I made a message to him. I said, no, I need to say to say, no, I need to make more one or another to get to say,
Starting point is 00:29:19 no, I don't want. I don't want I don't want to a lot of my life in another event in Belmont or I don't
Starting point is 00:29:26 or any other I'm going to do FECC because it was by the FEC and it was at the MNA and they
Starting point is 00:29:32 were to me attender this period that that seems that all right to not
Starting point is 00:29:38 this lot because this lot came a two years came two three
Starting point is 00:29:44 repackation the first the first the first the first came to the first came to I was
Starting point is 00:29:48 that was there were Marathon to go to to go to Vegas I took a penitip and remacked to now in October
Starting point is 00:29:58 of the year last with a carol because the Chineseian she had been in the time
Starting point is 00:30:02 was like she was like I'm to have to be there to be right I'm
Starting point is 00:30:09 but even I'm I'm trying I'm doing the whole
Starting point is 00:30:12 energy all the whole thought for you thinking in this Mere
Starting point is 00:30:15 a lot was it was really really I used to do that in Vegas. Every year, I never have worked in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So it was very nice to terminate in Vegas. It's really very very very very proserous. There is this in the history of my life.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So, so, for me, and I have the certainty that really had to be the last for the training,
Starting point is 00:30:34 for the time, for the time, that I could not give, but it was very nice,
Starting point is 00:30:41 but it was really to think to say in the Lut? Vendant that the
Starting point is 00:30:45 camp not, not, not, a repetition of the skimps anterior, the frustration of not is feeling well? Look, but I mean that this
Starting point is 00:30:54 happens, I think of all the plet, at least in your an old, or not, have to be able to do you're doing here. At least,
Starting point is 00:31:04 you feel a need, an angstiancy, so, and simply desire that a call, but this is, oh,
Starting point is 00:31:11 what besteering that I'm thinking, but I'm thinking, that's not. You know, when you go, when you go, when you're the
Starting point is 00:31:16 world of your life, But this is my insecurity that happens with all the threat. All the TEPA, I'll know that's a certain that will be able to say that's there's moments that will have been, there's
Starting point is 00:31:29 fear of trying to, you'll think, at times if you're a day, maybe the anniversary, is confused, and I'm saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:37 it's nothing to me, you know? This volatility in the head happens with all the other attacks, I think in all the camps, in all the others,
Starting point is 00:31:46 you know, sometimes you get an anguish, I'm going to say, when it's a car, remarked the I'm looking that the cycle of the camp
Starting point is 00:31:55 is very like like a great place a woman when she's oh, there's time and more even,
Starting point is 00:32:02 then when she gets in the middle, it's just it's a bad, oh, caranda,
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'd try more, I'd more time to train more when you're in the final like,
Starting point is 00:32:11 the woman that's that's like that's that comes right, get to get to
Starting point is 00:32:16 this get along the sapa to me to be able to this I think it's very very similar I think it's very in my time
Starting point is 00:32:28 my friends and my friends and my friends and they're like it's like it's like I'm like that's the same
Starting point is 00:32:34 same in the same so we're so we have many so the emotion is what is what prevailing
Starting point is 00:32:41 is it if you don't the my corner more important so prevacelence it is this
Starting point is 00:32:47 Now, if you dole and the cord, the majority of this, is more than mosthiated because it's been a lot more than something is the impression that to pass to me is that you decide more by the part by the cancassasal than
Starting point is 00:33:01 the physical, right? There's a question of the eyes, but the mental you cancelsed more, and it was exaltzed mentally, psychologically, to have to deal with this locus of the sport
Starting point is 00:33:10 than the part of physical you think, now we have a few months that you've been in a few months that you've got to be a year, two years, you know, you
Starting point is 00:33:18 know, relaxed, of course, but I'm not to relaxes, but I'm the head of this
Starting point is 00:33:24 lukour of M.A. I think can't go to you, you can't thinking that
Starting point is 00:33:30 it's a possibility in the future, you know, but M.M.A. Who knows after after relaxes
Starting point is 00:33:36 much the case, you can go back a day? It's a moment sabat,
Starting point is 00:33:42 like the people, that the people, that people, it's a lot, that for LMA,
Starting point is 00:33:45 no. My MA, I don't have a no doubt that my cycle and the
Starting point is 00:33:51 cycle is a precha, I think I did what I did the I think
Starting point is 00:33:56 to do my career, with a repercussion that I did, with the my
Starting point is 00:34:02 dreams, my objectives was being being not a person of the
Starting point is 00:34:07 not just just only only the only one that that made
Starting point is 00:34:11 this this story that was that was recognized that was
Starting point is 00:34:14 I've been the first I've done with the mergers disputed cituram I've
Starting point is 00:34:21 success I've failed I'm was in back I'm was
Starting point is 00:34:25 so I'm so I'm so I think my my cycle and I don't
Starting point is 00:34:32 more than I have to do the MMA no there no more
Starting point is 00:34:35 so so I think now the sport for me is more for me I'm in my own adventures, my
Starting point is 00:34:45 adventure, that I think that could happen happen to happen, but, maybe, you know, in other modality, you know, I pass through a great event, of West, of boxing, and the people come in, but I'm calm, now. Now, I'm not. Now I'm with a focus very great,
Starting point is 00:35:05 too, that's a day we can have three months of inauguration, there's two months and a little, So I think that I need to be in me very much in-sima to to be able to stay to walk out and I'm very, very,
Starting point is 00:35:18 very perfectionist very fideot with this situation of my name that's so much very dedicated when you're
Starting point is 00:35:27 in the same maybe maybe I'm just a little a little campizin but I think of a modality
Starting point is 00:35:34 just is more easy, M.A. is very angstained, it's very very torturing and it's
Starting point is 00:35:38 very difficult to improve you know you don't evolve, the MMA is all, but you can't evolve 100 in nothing, because you can't even get to be able to get a percent in nothing. You have to be able to take a little bit of
Starting point is 00:35:51 every modality, so you're going to be always the middle of those modalities, even if you're in a modality so, the top of the galaxy, in Jiu-Git, but when you jogginga, you never will be 100% of your Jiu-Sat. You'll have
Starting point is 00:36:08 I have been with much information on the your box, I see what you're always, it's always the moment, because you're doing something like a quarter of a a little bit, in a case, you know what happens so you don't know what happens.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So you don't really to be able to get to see what I feel like, how it should be doing a model of the sun, this is fantastic, I think it should be more light, too, everyone who does be more tranquil.
Starting point is 00:36:35 The people who do me, the people, you know, that's the that is moleza. It's like mollesa, that's just, oh, of the morning I do you, do you know, part of the physical, the night, part of tech, I'm just a box,
Starting point is 00:36:45 too, tranquil, too, because the WM. It's very, it's very, it's very, it's very, it's very. It's very, it's very, it's very difficult, in the NMA,
Starting point is 00:36:56 very little. And, I, I'm hearing you, I, I perceive, that of all these modalities possible, what the most is the box,
Starting point is 00:37:03 yeah, it's, because I'm because I'm reading more to the box, I'm trying to, But if you want to call, but if you're
Starting point is 00:37:10 a proposition normal or box or box without? The two. Those two. The two
Starting point is 00:37:15 is nothing, you know, but I think now now, maybe, maybe, no end of
Starting point is 00:37:21 the end of the end, I'm going to something, maybe it's maybe the idea, but I'm
Starting point is 00:37:27 not, now. But what what of what of the he does do you
Starting point is 00:37:32 make sure, the box or this box is taking more
Starting point is 00:37:35 a mod now, of Boxing Lova, that's visually is more violent, but it's a hype interesting. Look, I don't have much more than this, the Boxing Luba, because the Luma of the Lola, I don't know if you have you, you, I don't know if you're,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and I chose a version of a greenieme, well, it's a little bit of me, so, it's a little, it's, it's nothing, it's, not, nothing, I think, no, I see, what I see, what I see, what happens, the men,
Starting point is 00:38:06 they're more machoed because really there's nothing there's a monadage pulyal
Starting point is 00:38:12 so it's a most of the most of the person in the car in the office is very very in the very much
Starting point is 00:38:20 but I don't have got to know the ball traditional also also say it's
Starting point is 00:38:28 that it's a other pegat I'm I'm a bitura who see in the
Starting point is 00:38:32 father of my big of those both the preference the
Starting point is 00:38:35 the best propost that I think it's interesting. The your intention is to
Starting point is 00:38:40 go to go to the box traditional and to be a post of a
Starting point is 00:38:45 modelididate or to get some of some people who did someone that would
Starting point is 00:38:51 be interested to find to get to find anyone even I think much in this
Starting point is 00:38:58 but I think I have a name to make a good a lot of the person to have
Starting point is 00:39:05 curiosity to me see, I'm a modality I'm always always always I'm
Starting point is 00:39:10 know about by the procaation that I like I'm my wife is a
Starting point is 00:39:16 boxer so box so I think just just I think I would
Starting point is 00:39:22 be very legal I think I'd would give a good repercussion
Starting point is 00:39:27 and independent to be a box a great or one of
Starting point is 00:39:32 a m.A I would would give a I like the cost of the cost of the public, if I'd
Starting point is 00:39:38 get a news to get the people to see the people to see for me I don't want to be able to
Starting point is 00:39:43 be put in so it's being abacked so I don't think I don't think it could be someone
Starting point is 00:39:49 who has a certain name or do the box maybe I think it's for me
Starting point is 00:39:55 more me yeah in the media yeah maybe you're having somebody maybe you're
Starting point is 00:39:59 getting someone can get a carmion of money and I convinced her to invert her box. It's difficult, I think she's the case of the
Starting point is 00:40:10 Rhonda is very similar to me. I think she was very close to me. I think she was overthrothically with an athlete of competition in her life of her. And I think in the M.M.A. She's in a form of a very traumatized really, that I think she
Starting point is 00:40:25 that she's not more competes ever in her life of her, even. There, I think she only, I think she's just to this competition artistic, me in WW. I think in the case of
Starting point is 00:40:34 it was very the mother also was my mom also can't have been quite too
Starting point is 00:40:41 also also like a a athlete yeah she she's she's
Starting point is 00:40:45 she's working she's when he does and when he does it gets
Starting point is 00:40:51 susigated in the family she's she's living a a good
Starting point is 00:40:56 life you you know you're a round on what she does in WWWE
Starting point is 00:41:01 or or you don't, just see what's on the internet there's a lot of the internet. It's like I see some of the internet, so I see some of the Instagram, some sites, like, some of the news,
Starting point is 00:41:13 and I'm not as well as, the artists, as well, it's, as I mean, it's, I see, so, so I see the news, and the person will, so what I see,
Starting point is 00:41:24 and of others, it's, it's, through the social, member, Twitter, that, I like,
Starting point is 00:41:29 I, I like, I like, I love, a, I like, So I see that she had a child, she's very
Starting point is 00:41:35 with the marital that also she, so she was in that she'd go to let's see for a when she'd
Starting point is 00:41:45 create a galina so she's being feeling happy and I'm I'm saying she's she's very much I think she's really much the person
Starting point is 00:41:54 that's too with aftain you're saying you see her social or see what the other people post on her
Starting point is 00:42:01 I don't see more. I'd I'd say in the time that I'd want to be I'd like a little bit after a lot after I'd
Starting point is 00:42:08 have to keep to see you know, I'm always to see, but I'm going to take the last time,
Starting point is 00:42:14 because I I look, I know, I watch those stars, I, I'm in the stories, I,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm a normal for me, I do the type that's the people, I think, it's, it's the people,
Starting point is 00:42:28 so I see, I, I don't see, I, I think she was I think they're like that's this type
Starting point is 00:42:37 you know, the total your rivaled with a ron was a rivalry very very rival of her career
Starting point is 00:42:43 in terms of the relationship in terms of interpersonal there and after after you now it's
Starting point is 00:42:49 after you're in the event when you when you think what what what what you
Starting point is 00:42:54 what you mark of this relation of it even there even some
Starting point is 00:42:57 maybe there or you'd I'd could go to go to Los Angeles to
Starting point is 00:43:01 sit and and to have a a little bit of her, there's a relation normal with her? I think it's not to get
Starting point is 00:43:05 enough. You can't do you. I don't feel that a little bit to be in my life
Starting point is 00:43:11 but I'm going to I'm going with much a matter because really it was the
Starting point is 00:43:19 real reality I think the men in the story, had been a lot and had
Starting point is 00:43:24 everything had that's the most it's more repercuted in the world
Starting point is 00:43:28 I think for me was the woman so So, I think not just with the Ronda, I think it's like the most important. After the other, I feel like my name is there.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Because I use this to me train more. I think the rage, the rivalry, you know, it's not that you're not in the most of the kids. So I think I'm having a lot of my head. So I don't want to be in arms. This is sport. It's a thing. I think.
Starting point is 00:43:55 When I have this present, I just feel like when I'm a preysminted instigated. So it's a motivation personal my would be a woman
Starting point is 00:44:04 that's a repack that I think a person who made a villain that I
Starting point is 00:44:08 think he was not it so it was very very so when you
Starting point is 00:44:13 when you when you get shugated and it's repercouped really and
Starting point is 00:44:19 the round that all the career of her and she she always
Starting point is 00:44:23 she always she always she said a villain a the
Starting point is 00:44:26 I was a threat-dressor. She wanted to She wanted to make to do it. And I think that I'm a very proponsal. So I think
Starting point is 00:44:34 a good time, and I think after that after I got to get a maturce the point
Starting point is 00:44:41 was good for me. So the raive passed completely and I and so
Starting point is 00:44:48 I started to have to give to give to because I think
Starting point is 00:44:52 if I could see this my measure this recognition world of this
Starting point is 00:44:58 mark in the history of the F. To be recognized people of me look at me
Starting point is 00:45:05 accompanied and I think was that was too did this also this this
Starting point is 00:45:10 end of she was she even she was real even she she she
Starting point is 00:45:16 she was she I mean that it did really something I
Starting point is 00:45:20 know I I think I I paid more I did was, it was so
Starting point is 00:45:25 it was very it was not really it was good so I think it passed and I think I'm too
Starting point is 00:45:32 with her now I'm always seen a woman is a person very much uncoeurad I think
Starting point is 00:45:37 I think I think she's I think Rhonda Rhonda I think she's
Starting point is 00:45:43 I think it's for the second she's probably if you could put out in
Starting point is 00:45:48 time would would be something on what you did before
Starting point is 00:45:51 after the with her with her? No, I think it was so much, I think in that that's the end of my life, but at that my my lute, I'd have made a record of PPP, like, I'd have, since I had a lot of historical as a day, and after my life, it was, I think, I think it really, a lot of womenina,
Starting point is 00:46:16 it, it was going to win a lot, when he put down the world, when he put in this, he started, he started to putt up me a event of women, not with other, but with others, it's it all the whole, but it's all right, it was just to come back, more, it was very nice, it was very cool. So I think, the
Starting point is 00:46:34 form that I did, for the other, no, I think the way, I also, because I needed to get in a pic, rapid, I'd wanted to give to long, so, I knew to call the attention of bunda. I had to have had, had to be able to and I could, and I could,
Starting point is 00:46:49 and I, you know, and I, you can't, as I was I was used to I could say to call the attention to her point she'd say to
Starting point is 00:46:55 say that's a woman there's a this is very nice here in this is so I'm really
Starting point is 00:47:03 so I'm would not would be what I would would be my training my camp
Starting point is 00:47:09 but I don't have to I don't have because I don't have a bit of I was
Starting point is 00:47:14 a lot I was a woman a woman a academy I was I was not
Starting point is 00:47:20 this time I think it was to be I don't have been a point of nothing that I
Starting point is 00:47:27 did not me help to be my family my family my my my mom
Starting point is 00:47:32 my my parents I don't have I don't I had
Starting point is 00:47:37 experience I don't I didn't I was I was me on I'm
Starting point is 00:47:40 on so I did so I did a camp very long so
Starting point is 00:47:45 I was so I'm was much discussion It was a lot of grief. It was horrible. What traumatized so far
Starting point is 00:47:54 a lot. Not a little bit. But, but, it was very very, it was very bad. So, for example, today,
Starting point is 00:48:05 if I was, if I was in a way that I'd totally different, but I'd say I have passed with much a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think when I was when I was a friend from the LFC. So, so, it was very,
Starting point is 00:48:18 innocent. Today, I'm talking a little more more than you more more calculated
Starting point is 00:48:25 the way, I'm quite different. You know, you think this experience that you have been
Starting point is 00:48:31 in the October, and out of the doctor, and everything you've done, you know, the experience
Starting point is 00:48:36 today, as a team, to form a bett-correya even better, a better,
Starting point is 00:48:40 a better of her, to, to confront the situations of this like the other,
Starting point is 00:48:46 and, and, say, he'd do better than you've been the other past?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Wow, much. I've been any of any of any people to ask to be a
Starting point is 00:48:55 good to say, because I think I think I 've metsees to do, the best
Starting point is 00:49:02 of the big, of the academy, of mutants, of a team, and be
Starting point is 00:49:07 to be adventurate and risked and risked so, so, and disjustice, the judgment the point of
Starting point is 00:49:14 it, my, I've lived of all, I've lived of good, a lot, a
Starting point is 00:49:18 way, and I'm going, today, I'm about, now,
Starting point is 00:49:24 what really really to do you know, I'm going to see, that's people, people, have been
Starting point is 00:49:32 very much in the media, not the training, and I think, at least,
Starting point is 00:49:36 long, it's the way, it's, it's, it's, you know, many,
Starting point is 00:49:41 you know, so, I'm, so, I'm, something to say, really,
Starting point is 00:49:46 of, what I lived and what I think it is better I'm going to make
Starting point is 00:49:51 to make a team for the in a academy is to the sport in form
Starting point is 00:49:56 brazenous but commercial but I made to make the team
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm I'm I'm very but I want to make this in a
Starting point is 00:50:05 form right because the athlete he he doesn't
Starting point is 00:50:09 he he had his he had some he has he
Starting point is 00:50:14 has and this bag of this It was a lot of revolt, a frustration, much despair,
Starting point is 00:50:21 many people who will not do so. He's not here. So it's a person very fragilized. A plet,
Starting point is 00:50:30 he is very fragilized, he is very incredible. For this that at times, they are so revolted,
Starting point is 00:50:38 he's, a deal with the donors, the team, because they are very frustrated. They have a
Starting point is 00:50:45 There's a charge of deroges in the courts, of people who get to train the form of urbana, the body, and it's called, the better. So, so it's not easy to be able to be able. So if I don't want to give you a project that's being set out, and it will be just more one to be, to cover some of the people, of the new, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:08 which is what I've made, much happening. That's right, so, Bette. I thank you, thank you, I'd thank you, for your time. Good luck in this project that's great great atres for the future
Starting point is 00:51:19 in the MMA in Brazil. And, and congratulations for the career. That for me, you were an example of marketing in a sport in a way
Starting point is 00:51:26 an incredible. You said, you said a major stric of sport pointing and dead and pedied for you. It's very rare
Starting point is 00:51:34 this to happen. The champion and say, it's like it like a person, because the guy has
Starting point is 00:51:39 the doctor of the doctor, you know, I want to this person here. It's not It's what happens.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You can get a mega-sena of MMA, the grand starry, the great star, to be a great star to win a lot of money, did a excellent career, it's of parades, and now we'll see the next few steps,
Starting point is 00:51:55 now, now as a businesswoman of M.A. That's the real. Thank you, Bill Neshe. We're always together.
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