MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Deiveson Figueiredo desafia lenda, Bate-Estaca salva o UFC

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

O Trocação Franca recebe dois ex-campeões do UFC essa semana. Deiveson Figueiredo retorna ao programa para falar sobre o que muda após perder no UFC Rio e lança um desafio ao maior peso-galo da história. Jessica Bate-Estaca fala sobre interromper as férias para substituir Taila Santos em cima da hora e de quebra assinar um novo acordo lucrativo com o UFC. O podcast traz, ainda, entrevistas com Mayra Sheetara e Philipe Lins, que também lutam sábado. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca welcomes back a pair of former UFC champions to this week’s episode. Deiveson Figueiredo returns to the show to explain what changes after losing the belt at UFC 283 and call out the bantamweight GOAT. Jessica Andrade discusses a late-notice call to replace Taila Santos and signing a very lucrative deal with the UFC. The podcast also chats with Mayra Bueno Silva and Philipe Lins, who also compete at Saturday’s UFC Vegas. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocaption Franca. And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz! Hello, my name of the fifth-fifthepisode of podcast, Trocaation Franca, a sua case over MMA in this immense abode-sphere. I'm William Cruz, correspondent to the site American, M.M.A. FIREA in the Brazil.

I'm in the company of ex-campion Peasomor Mosca of UFC Davidson Figueredo, who is back to the UFC Rio to talk about the next steps and plans of the career. All right, my friend, my friend, my friend. How many is it being a world, the normal, and the recuperation, of course, of the surgery that you passed after the war in New Jersey. Well, I have this lesion in the in the lute

me took there, I had made the same I had massaced fey the visor

and I'm it was so grave I took a goal that was I was, I was

I was a normal and no nada it pager that I just me just I'm

so I'm getting to I'm having conversated with the team. I

like, I see, to know what, what, I'm going to make my

my head's there's there's at 1. I've said to my company, I've said

a guy certain I don't know what you're I'm I know I'm

I'm going to train this is the first is the head

is perfect I'd say 100% that I'm well, I'm 100% full of health and what I want to want to try now

I'm going to go to work in California even the month next next to go back in Ray Fabbe and get

the month after to go to Brazil and see where it call to and make it's being

the recuperation that's the thing that's with the eye a more more more than more than

when you're going to you just to do what still a time for the time imagine

to take a shock in the car still not not not he's not there no,

I've done I've done I've got consults with a doctor alphthamologist and now I'm doing

physiotherapy and I'm I said to you, I'm saying there, no one the muscle

is a muscle is a little can't say there, I'm, because

the soco that I took. And now I'm stimulating with physiotherapy constant.

Every day I'm going in the physiotherapy to do exercise to go to the movement

of the palpbra because she she's a little relaxed but

but I go to 100% that. That's good, that's what

important that, it's well physically to put to what

you I like to do, that you want to do, that's in a porrada. Exactly, I, I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm...

I'm... I'm new. I'm still... I'm still... ...to make a lot of ...and to make up the centurial,

yeah. I'm... I'm... ...to devoured a lot for the Pantoge, yeah? Who knows, the pantorone

not... ...the ...and we'll be able to ...or to be about... a little, but first, what what, what, what , what, what, ?

What's the whole what happened in these last few years, right? That's all this rivalry with Morano, the four disputes with

him, it came to the end of the year and he took the crown of the Pesomuch, what you

do, what you do, what happened and of the next few past you're going to be in your

career, now, as the well, I, I, I, I,

I've, I, I've, a long rivalry with Moreno, that I

I'm in front him even in a fifth a lot, in a category one,

I'm in certain he's a day he will be in category and we can be in

or even I decided to get in 57 kilos and make more the possibility

I still I don't I'm not decarted but my my I'm talking to my coach,

I'm asking my coach, I'm asking them a good and I'm going to be a half a one. It's less suffering, and we'll try and be more strong. The last last month, I've

a perka very great both of push and quite the force, but this is a question of adjustments. We can't maintain a piece

more level and keep training because in a per day, I don't perka, so much weight, but, but,

car, let me what the plan there's for my life there. If it's mea-1,

I'm going to be more more strong, I'm more, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a man that has a good, to be a one,

I don't need to make a mass, not be a not, not be a specific,

to be the possibility, there's, the next loser CER, 757 Kills,

or not, the next with a my one. Cara, to you talk about abertamation

there's a chance to see 57 kilos I think I don't I'm

to look with Kankara France I fall to lot with with Pantoja

there are the young that are getting the guys I know

who are there are potential 100% for a lot to be a

bigot or are between the better, you know, the category tends to

get to better, or I sup to the one, it's why I'm indecisive, I'm going to

get to be indecisive now. I don't want to go to be a decisive, I'm not see.

Acoscelian, or really is, like, that's that's up to see to see to see to

the interview the war, and then it's friote, you thought, I still can't bathe 5'7

if mudd some of some of things because it's the

times that I batte the time I'm I'm bathe the

really very too was well now my recuperation

I I did I did a recuperation certain I

knew I I I I'm I'm some I'm

on the six day on recuperation I don't know no, no,

that's the like this good. Like what you know, I'm eating some things that

not were to me to eat, I'm not not going to say what what was, but

this is, I think, poor, I think it's, I think it really, I mean,

I'm that I meanteed that it was made to be very well in the

luta. The lute was a lot was a And as we see, many of the luts,

the guy is the guy is a lot of, the opponent, the opponent of a man and the opponent won't get a lot. I'm, man.

I was feeling very in the lot and I don't do it to continue to continue. You think that this

thing was more a reflex of all the whole to the camp because I remember that in November

in that collective of Rito was more restrited the meat that was all the

time was always said, I'm a part of a good and kind of and kind of you thought, po, I'm

going to come here, because I'm going to come here I'm going to I've got to the years I've got to

like the you know who I'm looking to eat food and this man never me would be asking

food I'm talking to all the world and it was more the question there to poor

love it's yeah I took the goal and it did for continue but

But I batte the I was good, I was well, I'm not I don't have a food for

to recover the weight. I did the wrong. But I felt well in the lute even so.

And I can't batte the I can't be able this pain, I can't

be able. I just I just need to be doing my eating certain the diet,

training and in a I don't let my my piece inflate I'm deced 70 and 6 kilos

I'm very pesed 706 kilos in 4 months to fight 757 I'm able to be able to feel you imagine

now that I'm here with 68 69 not not letting the weight I'm not I know I know I can

I can I can I just need I just need more than my scot to know if I'm 257

kilos if I super 1 but my is to start at 1, just in this next one. You were

going to the night of the night of the night of the night of the I was in

about, I was in about 64 and probably 5 I was I was able I'm able I'm

really, I'm recuperer well, me recuperer, uh, did you? And, and,

and, other than this lunch of the food, there was you wrong

against the Morano in the luta or in the preparation to the a lot, some

a rependiment? Ah, for the certainty yes, car, there's a night of

the fight, the strategy that was to be to do me do you, I'm definitely different.

Maybe if I had motted a distance, like I had beence he in the

lute the rubeer the would be another story, but I went

in the distance there and what was to me more more

more a great question that we had had before of this

Luta, that I had, other people had, what was, how is it, how it's how it would

be your performance, because in the Lutta you said, you said, you know, had trained in

Belain, was having been a lot of distractions and that came being a problem,

and you decided to train again to this battle, so the question was,

how you were going to do you do you doing the camp in a

perfect, this, that was, that was a problem this It was one of the best camp that I did

here in my academy in a Figuero in Belém in Paris. And, I'd do do everything, I'd do do with all the training

here, I'm taking the document of my family for my wife, my wife, my children,

they're going to go to the United and for so I did the camp all here. But,

but no discarta the possibility. I have in San Paul there, there's a child Bronx to train

have trained I have the option in Natal with the brothers Pitibu I'm a

guy that I love to to be doing new amazes to choose an academy to make

my camp and thank to God I have good those I have

in ports abertas and Diego Lima just has talked

with what I want to want to I want to they are they are

they are are very family I like to be in San Paul in many people of the men's people are good enough but my mother I'm passionate for asai

I have to walk out to Belaine the same the same Paul not equal assay of Belaine no totally different like I said like like I said

this is softbet my our assail it's natural it's a fruit really here in Belain is it's completely

different but I'm even I'm out of diet I take a every day today today today on the almost I

I'm a soy every day I'm a soy in Belaine I just have now to be a police are because then the same

I'm a I'm going to I'm fixer my assay it's completely different to your assay I'm in

that I have the I've had the B'Rene and so I'm good to eat and very

good very good very different yeah completely different but

but it was what I was the I'm the I'm a say it took me much

a saire there recovering the other it's much the liquid

but I'm really I'm sure very in the important is that I'm

feeling in the lot of the lot and the got into the ball

and it created many the the dead to have entered

in my eye but he's I'm sure I'm

sure I'm the legger the lateral and I

could I could be a a goal in regular. Not he got the point of

his head but he but he got the pole his totally no, you know,

independent of where you train to the next the next a year, the assay

will be be able to be able to be so restried so because you don't

need to get four kilos a less to

get so imagine that you enter more more healthy

that you enter with a more more discans that

be more more more more more sound exactly

I I'm really thinking not to be 1 really, you know, I said, I'm going to go to be

to meet in the 61, I'm going to say, but I'm going to 7. But it's because, I, po, I,

take this ball, he in the foot, no, I, I, I took this

goal, there, and I feel, poor, what, I'm, the,

the lute was so good, and I took this porre of this goal, and I'm

going to continue to be my 1, yeah, but I'm But I know that, if I want to continue on

1, I can't even get rid of to do, I'm trying to do, but I'm in, there more two carines that I'm in front of my own, I'm in front, let me reflect

but here I you guarantee that 80% my head is up to my head and sub-1. I need to talk to my company to

know what he asks, what he thinks, what I can, what I can, what decisions I can,

I can, I can, I can't take. And how you see entering in this

division? I'm a division like the Mosca not a lot of there's a

lot of a lot of not a little not going to not try not quite going to

get to they're probably will try against the they're with all the

certain and and I'm I I'm I'm I'm a

I'm when I have metas have objective to conquest

my my man I train you train me train me I'm too you can't you can't

I'm going to represent that I'm not not going to category I'm going to I'm going to be the

respect to all the guys are the people are excellent dotators but I go train up to get

100% you have someone that you have been you just you know an excellent

name for your the show Strait in the division? I said, I said with my company he was a question, and a

we're just it would be a great one a lot of the Dominicru for there would be

a good would be a man, you'd start with your title, yeah, maybe the

most of all the time of the time of that's, you know, I'm ex-campion, I'm,

I'm ex-compean, so, so, would be a a guy of name, you know, a guy

that's a high level to me to be a man. With the he's a great.

He's not an active more today as in day but the guys

who got they're they're very the marlon for example in the

last he got he got he he he has a he has

a style very characteristic, man, movementation of the game would you in this possible

lute there? Well, Dominique is a man who can move

a lot we're we know we're to cut that movement of him

and 100 I would explore this and I'd really

really really I know I've training much Jijits

very and I would really really really especially defense

of a man is a a man a man is a that he is a great,

an excellent lotator and know he's a great, he'll blocky the cladres of his, and boxy

with him with him, with him, with the certainty. And Treana, California, would have the

idea the favor, you know, who is a guy who knows the Dominicru very well, he's,

he's, he's, for rivals of long a date, yeah, long as guys,

they've done put, for me, it would be a, yeah, there, there,

Ryan, on, the, no, no, my corne and he's lot on the Dominique who's just

lot on him, he's done a great lot of the it's a way that it's not know the

the plan of the day for the morning yeah with you know, you know, you know,

all the whole of the world, the great victories that you've got to

the division, start on Pesogal against the Dominicruus a victory

a victory expressive against he, you can put to a dispute of a

title, is so that you see that you I don't know to say, there's many guys good there, carers good, car. To say, I'm going to say,

I'm going to do you? It's a bit difficult, you know? I think to get to get in a pass in, and show me that I have a potential for a dispute of this centauron. A we've recently, in this end of the week of now, the Volcanoves,

who's who's uped to category to dispute the centauron of the same against Marathev, he, ended up losing. There, a companion of Adesone, who tried the same thing when Blalovit

you've ended up some category tentating a second on a second or just subbing, various did are

very, they're very, they're doing other divisions. Vending these examples anteriores like, what,

what, what, what, what, what, what you did, the success

or in-success that you think you can apply in your case, you know, you know,

you know, you think you will look more, in me-1 that you went to ,

Mosca? Yeah, to look better in a category of the we have

to get to get to get to some, some some some some

they've got a successful like on Cere Encerroo there

Amanda they have a sub to but many

times it's that I don't go to get

to get to get to get a different you

I had to get to get in the sapatine, get a mochin to let out to get to get

to know. Adaptive the category, me adapt to the power, the force is different. You think

this first experience against who she will you know the response of that you can

transform a 1 to fact in your new house and move to not get

in those subind sub-decing but the Charles of Bromx he was a guy who

was always of a bit of a bit of but he's a difficulty to get the weight to be

to get to 70, but he always he always was always he wanted to make a

when he finally he knew, no, he didn't go to not go to him,

he got the , he got the , he got the lot, he got to bat 70 kilos of

fat, and not disputed the centuron, yeah, when you when you turn the

when you get to the way, and you don't think saying, but I can't

to go to or I want to I think you think this can do you think this can do you know, you

know, when you know, say, man, say one is the future for me and say five, you know,

forgets five, Morae, forgets, Pantoja, that's the exactly that I want to put to be

my head. What I had to show, the category of the back, I just I've already

I've seen and I think now it's the time to go to my first to my capital.

This is my plan. But I have to listen to my coach also,

I've seen with my business I've never with a prato also,

I've the trainer of Jiu-Git of the D, the Brahebe

and was what they passed for me I think an excellent to be to be

being to be being received by Dominic Cruz that is

an ex-compe to fight with me, who's a ex-campoos, and I'm a big of bad, I'm going to be a pae, and I'm going to and I just the guys

of the brigades of there's, I did what I did what I did, you know, I did you know, what I did you know? Well, just to finish, what you think that's the

year? It's a very possible that is the Moreno with a Pantos now, the third-lut between them,

the Pantorio 2? I'm going to say, if the Moreno, if the Moreno, if the Moreen not corred because I

know he will He doesn't go to He knows that the pantos is a peter in his little. If he don't go to carry, I'll tell you

want to be 100% torsending to the ponton to get this ciddle. The troyd all right. It's all the

thing that that's a strong to bring this Zedgauau back to get a talk to a jessica

Batstaca Maira and Phelip Linch the trio the trill Brazilian that the lute

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to go to Vegas to do a Vegas to do a lot super in-since-a-hour. The invite appeared to substitute to Tyler Santos. How is you received this call, this convocation, to save more a card in the UFC? Well, I was there,

I was in the house of my man, of fairies, because I was already training because probably I would probably

I would probably I would be in May so, I was just starting the camp and I was

in the house in my mom, and then the master and entered in contact with me

and said, I'm probably will probably will be probably will be seen of

we substitute? So, cogitando to put, I said, Poh, let me see, you're going to how many,

you're going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to get to do you, so I'm going to do you, it's a day, so in a

dieting, and all the when I received the news, you know, on the Saturday, a we,

we, we, and the and the Bruno, that we're talking, but the

Alie, too, but the Alie, too, he, and then, the, Ali,

confirmed, really, confirmed, I would I would now at the final of the

time, and I'm all the whole of my view I'm so I'm then we're

then we're going to I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm going to put to put on 57

is too so I say I'm now now now I'm I said I think God

God of God of God of God of the God of God we're

about we're about we're from a six to cut out

to six to make a six seven it's suave? Ah, yes,

because before, when I'd always when I'd generally, I'd get back with 59 kilos in a

week of the time of the lute. So, the 7 to 6 to 7 kilos is very very much

to lose, and now, and now, because Las Vegas is my house too, then I'm with a

nutritionist, with the whole with the company it's more it's certain

the quantity of the time to take to take to take and then it's

Before you, before you to do you do a lot of the FCRI, we, we talked to your objective was to do that and go out to 502, but I don't know what the opportunity to gain a money, or to get more a victory, obviously you'd not say no,

but the plan is segue. After this battle against the Erring, Blanfield, the idea is to go to 5.2, or, if you can't continue accumuling victories in 5'7,

eventually you'll get a tire-shot even without you have to have to be in a question. I think this so not will happen

of a time in 5-7 because the Valentina has been a lot marked but I think

if not if not if it was this victory now, I think that would

really to dispute the central with a but the idea continue

to back to go to go back to get the chance of

my centuron the category and I'm going doing

my work with you need to need to need to need to me, I'm here, I'm going to say, I'm here, I'm here. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to be. It's going to be the man, it's going to be able to, even though I'm going to beware of Moran and Vegas,

facilitates many things, you know, always disposed to save the FC. Imagine that the recompense had been good, uh, yeah, the lute for Lory Murphy was the penultimate of your contract, and now I've been saying you've renavue, I'm going to you renovated with the FC, imagine that the gain and the financial has been a shot legal in this contract there's been,

mercedingly, I don't have to reclimate, no, I don't have to reclimate, no, even more with the new,

and everything, and I think that's also brought a great advantage for me in this, this, this renovation of contract.

I'm really, I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, so I'm really, very, very, so I think

that my life will be not to do that's all the whole people talking that this year will be my year I said if it's all the

people are all so I'm going to think it's all right and really the end it's always I don't have no anything I don't have any what

I'm not I'm saying I'm going to the FCC but I'm you say the UFC me saved many many times

too so I think it's a faca of two gumes one a one lave the other and so it's

we lave the whole entire so it's it's doing all right This contract you Assigned How's

this is now? This is now, I think, are four. Four, five, in the very, the last contract that I was of ten

luts, but the new new new employer, said that was a lawcour, that not was a lot of

having a contract with a lot of a lot of, and then he said, we'll do,

we'll do the next contracts now with less, but with you're getting

more, so, and then he said, so, so, so, so on your own. I confide,

I believe in you, I believe, we'll do you know, we're doing this right. The contract of 10-lutas he passes a false illusion of security,

yeah, because the FC he can't be to make it where he wants, but you can't say the order that you want to

see the contract on the middle of 10 luts is very complicated, you're very complicated. You have to do these

10 luts and, and so if you don't gain, he's not get it, he's made

you can't, we're together and we're going to augment this thing so I think I've been doing a good job working on the UFC I think even having been

10 luts in this contract I've got to complete at 10 and now with Alie working with we're working with

we're totally different I think the my world in the UFC moved I'm really I'm here

I'm back the IPX and the PIA and all the everyone looks to me see of a

different so I'm, I'm going to get into I'm trying really nice I'm trying I'm trying to

I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm sure about you're going to get but compared to you're going to get into

when it's like a kind of a kind of a total of your business that you're compared to

the last a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot with a practically triplicated

the value for this lot and the contract new too did it was a one thing

was a good, a move dance a dance very good in the career, I think now I'm

going to make the foot of my bed-de-mea and plan to my life, because I think that's that after two years,

maybe the my body not the way that I imagine that is that I think to go to get to really

to make a life, the life of my family. So I think it's a good work,

both of my team, to be doing both lots, to be able when the FC

needs, So I think this is gratificant and it's recompensable. So they've been me recompensing well. So, so, this lute of now really, saved my life, in all the sense. I'll try to the house of the money. Oh, very well, very well.

And, boy, obviously, the money is fundamental, this is your profession that you do, to pay the costs, to live, to give a life better for your mom. But you want to enter there and want to win, how is you see when you see when you see

when you're on the how is the how is the case the job with the job of the

other year it's a first of Ranking but even so much very dark nobody

I think was going to be with her and then it's a opportunity I said

for me I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm in the art

martial I've been getting more more more more

more than the true the that the Jjit's not the be my more

more more the more in the question, I think that this moved a

my vision in the MMA and I think in the trocaation, I'm trying to

have a advantage more, so in this this the battle against her

I think the my trocation will be more and then the first

I'm the first shoot, then, all I know, she's she's very good,

she's very being on the part of jiu-git's have finalizations good, so I think

the strategy of the game is to defend the quaydened, is to defend this shone of this grappling and if you

get up, try to get to get to get to put a place, then to put my job,

and I think I, I have a advantage very great. So, to work in the

Pounde and if the Luda to get in a pet, try to try to not counte

to because she was doing a campaign just to this data, you not, you're not, you're not even if you were, in the house of the man, relaxing a little, for more if you were

training, not with the intensity of a camp, but the disadvantage that she has also, that's a disadvantage, that's a different, like, the type of physical, is completely different, so... Different, and the altitude, she's been trained to Tyler, not a, technically so, not a vantage, so, because

you are two etretements, completely different, different, exactly, I think the, I think, the Tyler has more this part of trocaation, So probably she would be training much the part of enter in

and as far as a tally also has been a invergator and it's a major and it's a time she's not a part

of the grade and when you look at someone who's the time or the minor than you it's more difficult to

do this work of grade so really I think she she will have to try a strategy of her

trying to try to make this during a month and for much that I don't have training

strong, I believe that I don't I don't have I'm in my camp

past against the Laura and it's not a lot of a

lot of the the part of the to do the point of the point of the part of Jiu-Jitsu

and of finalization that she has been. And how is you terminus on the Saturday?

Look, I want to knockoutia or knockoutia or finalize I think the question is not to

give to the juiezes, never to give to but the intention is knockoutia even

that I still be me recuperating those pancados that I have been better than

this my part of this part of the I don't believe that sign a knockout, with a no-saint.

Or not, not will not go to go to the first round, but I believe that either the third and the fourth round

no-nobo-n't always solve. For sure, and just for we'll finish for you, mirro, the return, the

Pesupilah after, the Elizan and segue without the other, you said that was mirro

a lot with her, after you've beence in the FSA Ria, the victory, it was impressive

and now and now winning a Aerey not being in a category you know

can't get on your goal this stout because the he said he was you know

that you was waiting to be the you're going to be the Manda Manda Lems what they

did you do you do that passed your month and it not roll nothing

that you think it can what you can't what can't if you

have maybe have more a victory a Nof I

will continue I'm asking this opportunity to to look to the Cinturion. I think victories is a victory,

no matter what the category that you're know, I think four victories this can me put me

put to this opportunity to have a dispute of the so I will continue and then

she's not there even not have a adversary a special I think it would be a

an opportunity to have this revanche because I don't continue

not in my a lot with her, so I still I'm engaged with this of of her, and I think coming to a victory now, it's that important is to think in the victory now, not

a lot of fast, but if I say with this victory, with certainty, I'm going to be and I'll be waiting, I'll be waiting, I'm going to the UFC, maybe some of something has happened with

Elie, for this that they not, not marked any one a lot and I I know that Amanda also is waiting for this

opportunity so I don't know if the UFC would be in mind I'll do a revenge against Amanda and then the

two wince to do a lot with but I think it would be a champion for campaign to

get some I don't have much this opportunity, to get a long with the centurance without, I want to

want to so I'm really so everything of this victory of now and I will I'll be

I'll be asking the rest of my life. Tana, botter I put it, put it in I'm gonna be

I'm gonna be Mayer Chitar here in the day 18, in front of Lansbeck in Boucha the Trinca in the third

victory in the FEC how is being the expectation of more a new an

octagon now in ballada in this first time in this this

series in fact in the fact I'm very really really a God,

for opportunity, for all all, I gave a call- a cut down when I came in the

C, because I, I, I, for me, I decided that I wanted to look at what I would be, and now

that I got to the category, that, the fact, is the mine, I'm really

very happy, very empoogated, and I have presented great performances, and this has me made me

more, because I train me really, I train me I train I like to train all the days

so I'm I'm going to I'm going to like to come to get to get to get to come to say I'm going to go to get to

but I'm but I'm important is when I'm when I'm a good performance and then I'm not having been having to be

and this category I really I've been able to be a Mairra that when I was expected to

I was I was ever to be so I'm really so I'm what what what happened you decided

to try to make the 5,7 what you had decided decided to do this the change.

It was, like, start in the FC, and go to the high-neve? The people cut more more than the thing, what did

you take this decision? So, car, in the time, my, my time, I was,

I was, you are very strong, you can't be so you're not necessarily , you're not necessarily

get, so you're not really strong because, I'm really, and I'm remember that one once I

went to my way, I've seen many, and I think, I'm, I need to of this dece of

because the menina, I was a little I'm a little to 5, seven, it is a good, I'm going to,

I'm trying to train up in a potin'clock, and I'm going to tryna, Joanna, Joanna is great, and I have a sensation

that I'm in the amount than she she'll think, no, I'm going to continue and I'm

going to be going to be going to be very good and it's not really, not it, but it's

because I really, I really, I really, I really, I'm not I can't to be to and then the perka of

and then the first of the most of the main one? What are the main to the main to start the piece that I think it's the best thing the most of the most of the 107? In fact, I'm going to cut up to 501, in fact, I was with a lot of six years. I always looked at 6.1 in Brazil, I never

had a problem. Then I invented, but then the head, I started to have my, I took my first the derotas. Then I started to a head a little kind of a

little really rough like I'm going to get to get to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to be up to me defying with the many other I'm going to I'm really she

and I understand that really this category was my name and I came to to TET

now, I trained with Kayla Harrison I'm I'm just I'm in the last the

last time and I know I'm not I am I'm I'm a little bit of a bit of a bit. No, I realized

that, like, I could make force very well with the menas of my category, that maybe, that maybe, like, in the time, the visual, said a little more because,

or not want to care, it's a minute, of who says, that's not, it's a minute, and I don't have a word, and I'm not to scone,

and I'm not to scound this. But, the visual me impacted a little, but I was trying to do test and train

with the menas like, and I'm very, and I feel, been being been being been difficult because not just you, ah, I'll decide to try to category, I'll

go sub, I'll go and see, and it was in a moment of various muddances in your life, like you, you train up in San Paulo, and go to, and try it to the team in San Paulo even, and then go to

the States of the United, it's a lot to manage to get a little bit, and suffer a derot, so it's, I imagine that the head, it's a little

bagucused, yeah, is that my The last derrota not was, I,

like I'm, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, with my

performance. And really, the last the result that made me made, it was, was very indigest,

like, I, I took, say, like, I, I took, I, I'm, 15 minutes,

is a, thing, that you don't want to be so, but at this moment,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, was all,

And I was all borgoncated and I was I was over my name my professor Jiu-Jitsu, I went to work

to get to my place in the place my coached by my coached by my trainer has been fluid so I've been

really been a local I'm a school where I was created where I did my first soco

and to go to other I didn't not me not used very well not cause with the

style that I'm I'm used I'm used to I'm going to go back to Gaya and I've got, the Gloria will be my trainer

principal of Mai Tai. And since then, it's done super certain. You have to have two years, three years, and she'll continue being my trainer the principal

of Muay Thai, really I've been able to put in camp that we've done to find out. Contra Fioro, you think it

really the person, to make the body, pass through all that, to do that it, I'm not I'm

not I'm going to you know, Maira, if if you were being, you'd have Gareth, I'm not I'm saying

this, not that's because we don't know a lot of the we know how it's, but the fioro pegs, and I

just was practically in the peso, and I went to practically a day before the so I was practically in the

time, and I had to cut the piece of the new in 10 days, and this for me was very

very bad. The commission atletic I don't want to be able to let me let's,

you don't you don't be, you I said, I've traversed the Brazil entire, I'm trying for this lute, I've been, I'm trying to this lute, I've got to do, you know, you're not, you're not, you're not bad, I said, no, I want to look,

I, I'm going to try and I've been able to try and it's the matter, that's where she's not, no, it's a but after the Lut, I said, oh, me, I'd say, I'd say a lot, I'd say, a great war between us, the U.S. The F.C. I'd say, it'd be a grand

war, because it was what we're two was offering, and it was what happened, I'd ask you I mean, I'm sorry to her. I've had a lot. And then I

don't get a victory, but I'm not saying that if I don't have been cuted the weight of the two years, it would be able to

the war that you would be a year that she's going to be a sure. In the future. In the future, we've got to

see the shitar that you said, the time, you've been you've been shown all the long of your career with

two victories. Now, the lute against Alina Lansberg, that is a threat very experienced too,

po, you've been for you've confronted some of the UFC, but I think not traversed the

middle of the three derogas there, are three decisions that you think that's what you think you see the same

your style, and this Shittara against Alana Anambh in October. That's what I'm

because I'm trying to dobro for this lute. Because for you see,

Alina entrented various wars now, she can have been per

decision. You see, I'm training on the double, because like, the Lina, she's not not having a

good phase, and I have been in a crescent very great, so you imagine if the Lina

go and and I go to get much, but it's not, and she's a different

really, she's a little, she's not, I'm trying to, to continue to maintain

her in this phase of the win, we know, that's it's very difficult to rubble

Lina. It's very difficult. If she has the She has the vows of her, she recusa she recusa to hermoney. So I think

it's a lot very dangerous of the years. The age of her also is a little advanced, but it's a little more more dangerous

for me than for her. And she has been some years, yeah, I'm gonna see that's

the America Top Team. I don't know if you're not sure you don't know directly with her, but it's

someone that you can't have much time, but to dock-z-in-l-d-d-l-d-l-pull-n't-n't-pulled-n't-n't-h-pott-hurt, oh, she's, in this position here, he's good, her, fought, this conversation,

pretends to do you guys the conversation with her before, or there's much time? A lot's different, but in some the trainings, we train, so, we do some, so, she says, she'll give some, uh, including, to payana, that's very strong, car, I'm trying with her, yeah, Iena is very great,

and even, yeah, and even, even, yeah, it was, like, it was, like, it was, like, it was, So you see how the caliber of the UFC is very very high, the person who is passing a phase difficult in of three derotas, but it's very hard, so

we're training very, so we're very expert, because we know that if vacillar at any moment, it's there a lot. How is it for you, when you were from the chute-box in San Paulo,

you've trained very with the charles of the Bronx, for the group, and since you said it, you've made the glory, you know, but you said, that you went to train

with a Chris Borg, and now it's in a TETT that there's there's a there's a Riharison, there's a Yana

like, I'm really more with women in San Paulo and now you're doing more you're you've been

a difference in terms technical, in terms of force you see that you know, you know, you know,

you know, there's been there, there's some difference in this sense? Ah, I'm going to

say, in the where I'm from where I say, it's a celererer gigantec,

you just you just you just I just said, it's one of the best academies of the world, so where I'm also one of the world, and like, the level, is, train with the men, is,

sometimes not so onest, you know, as well as it's a manor of 57 kilos, I'm not going to be the same force, you know? So, so you're, train with a woman,

of Kayla Harrison, train with I'm, train with I'm, there many other meninas here, car, very dural, so, can

have more or less the notion of where you are, with the men's not much

just. Not that it's the way, the most the sparrings for the

lot of the but the part of grappling, of wrestling, I prefer to do with the

menasling, but it to do the I don't do for the time? is more

more than the part of grappling I really don't go to train with the men with the I prefer to train with the men because we're

we're numerous grapplers here like I'm inumerous people, there are some menhensational so then the part of

the process I still prefer to do with the menace with who you usually do you do you know

I did that I did you I did I did with a Keila for the last camp

of her I did and I I train too I'm very with Peterio

Mnos I train much with there there a man there

a very good. Lel Capoeira, because I'm helping me helping for my camp in now, a Brazilian, but I train with the pedrino, I train me too, I train much with the

we're using the same coach, yeah? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm very with them, so, this part of, this part of, the, of, you,

do you, do you, do you, bushing the third victory, and trying to do the fourth derot a second to to be the last to get to

drop, you? Exactly. Pets and points there's all, you think that this lot has all that's all right? You think that with the pressure you will go to, she will eventually cede? I will enter that

chitara that you know-knest, you know, I'm going to knockoutier in the first round. With certainty, and I, as well, how I know, the mother of her also training in our school for a much time, he trained who very time in the Chilox of Curitiba, I also know that she will enter with this. So, I don't

say to how much it will be to be to say, but I'll say that it's a, if she'll be with the Lina that is, it's a great war. It's a war, to be a lot more there's a lot to the people to see. I don't know how it will be, but I know, in the final, my mom will be lifted. Mania. And just for we just to finish, you, saying, you train with that Hannah Wilson, she, she's, she left to Larrys-Sachia,

for a great surprise, there, no, in the final of the year, on the PFL. Not will roll the revanch for the moment for the end of a lot of a lot of

a lot of the other lot that's the court of confront between them how is this return

of that Kailah Rhearson to the trains she has been 100, just got with that that's a

form of the time to give the end of the battle the champion is always the champion

and so the I think the objective of her never was being invicta

I'm talking for me, not for her, I think the objective of her never was so the objective of her is her own, the objective of her is to be a champion, and of a point positive

because she has got better, she can better, you know what has to make to better, you're ready to her, car,

it's marvelous so, you know, to see what the champion does, respiration, what the champion does, she is an example

for us, and it's for us, and it's, like, to be able to be able to learn with her

is a opportunity A, one thing I love a guy I'm going to I want,

I want to see a boy and Kyle, what you think I'm going to get to get the two of the

world of the world and you have you you know you just you know you can't

you know you can't you know with a Chrisiborg with the Carlius in America

Top Team would really a really a really a lot spectacular yeah

would be the kind of the story that's certain would would be

the story. What you think you think you think you think you think you

would be in putting up I think who would be the two is who put this put this

love this lot of the question. I think that's the moral bureaucracy, the business who will

serve a more more of the promoters to be to do you do that can't

who can get this this is the person that is the person who will be able to just for you

just for she's she's like she's who also that's that announced the postadory in the year

after, before he'd to pay for the Elizang but you're saying that's maybe going to maybe

how it's how it's how it's she's doing like to do you do that way or is that maybe or is

just being just maintaining a tally it's a it's a thing really she's she's a

really I'm I'm coming with her I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna all the

all the time we try with some time She, she was she She's a champion. I asked her, I said to her, I don't know, I'm not I'm gonna, I'm not

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, everyone knows that she was, was one of those, was one of those, was one of the first like, for me, for the glory. And then I,

like, I'm, we're still not to be a point, but she's, there's, she doesn't, she's, she, she,

no, no, we're, talk, but, like, she, she's, she's more than I, she's more than, I'm,

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, she's, she's, she still still, she goes to she goes to

she'll be in the time, she know, so the future can't be to see, for the moment, when she's a lot of

a despede, a thing, a special, or re-comestant and starting in the bushel the centron that was

her to know. I think she I think the, I think the, the career of a lot of a lot of

so I'm doing to be doing to do you and then, like, something that something that happened

with her and it's super-a, but I think she she still she also, she

She'll, she'll She'll, she'll, she'll, because she, she, she, she, no, and she, no par, so, no. Dr. La D'Aleney, now we're going to be in 15th of February, return to Octagonum, to finally enfrent. O'Vin-San-Pruh, is a lot that's to happen for a lot. There's a bit of an impregister, but how is the

expectation of finally to sign in the man, with this car, I, man. It's a very lot, this lute, yeah, has to happen, it was to happen two times. The first first time he saw this second I asked

the UFC a little more of the time they were they're still and finally the we're going to last year the end up in

the best time I'm doing a great camp of the training yeah I'm in the final time in the last month

of the last month the last month the last strategy to to fight to do not I'm trying to

I'm ready to represent my country I'm by the best of God I'll see my second victory in

my second victory in the organization in the buska what happened in December that you asked this time extra for the FCA in the

fact that it was after the my lot of my battle the last was cancelled I got

I was just I was just me sent well even a little a little even of my body

in my body my organism not not me not I'm I'm

I'm I asked for them for they a little bit more of time. I'd even to see if they'd put a lot in the FC Brazil,

in the FCRILL, but they not said that the car was full, and they were they put on the 18 maybe of February. A good data,

it's good that I had a little more of time to train. It's the third time that you, that's the first time

was he, the first time, it's made from the last to go to the last, you came to the last,

you took a lot of the last, you think in the decision in April of the year of the year what's the life, your

life, your training, you as you as a final of the year, which is when it would happen the first

after now for the other contribution to do that? With certain, we're always in

evolution, especially here in America we have many training of the world so we're

always so we're going to our our job learning new things and

better every way more. So I, with certain I'm a lot of a lot more prepared than I'm in 2001, when I went in front to him. How frustrating is to deal with these things, uh, sometimes, unfortunately, it's something that happens with you, as well, sometimes it's an adversary, and have a lot

canceled, if you're in your topology, there, a quantity of adversaries, there, the lot of letters were adiated, or canceled in those last years, it, it's a pain, you know, I'm a lot, you know, I'm a ton of FC, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a time,

and after, before, you were, you're going to do a career a career legal in a PFR and a bustle of a constance, yeah,

of placar a sequence of victories and have to deal with this of a lot and it's really frustrating

in the day-a-day to pray and pray the fight the I'm my I'm my

I'm going to this with this I'm a new date it's

but I'm a man I'm a man I'm a man I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm there's a new It was a much drama

and with my two first few first in the UFC was drama in the same of drama a lot of the battle for cause of problems

of health some of my other adversaries have been other, I'm lesonee but as I'm saying

I'm a guy who I'm a man who I'm am a lot with the years of the past and I look always to

front the things that are in front the things that are but thanks

to God I'm I'm I'm having a new opportunity to do what I'm going and show my my job,

let's all my talent on the top of the octagon and represent the Brazil, my team, the people who

gohton of me. And I'm having this new opportunity I thank I thank you I thank you my

work for I'm trying to all this problems that are what happened I disapunted a lot people,

I asked to say I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just the world. But at times, really, at

this is out of our power in our power, so, of some, some, the important to us always, always, always, to keep in front, always,

and I'm going to the lot of, marked, let's see in a porth, I'm ready, I'm ready, so it's why you, have been, for this dramas that you passed

in the last time, and it's for you commented with me, that's using the pill of drama, now? Yes, always

that the people come to talk about in the interviews that I do,

that's about the those problems that are these problems that happened, I said that my

nickname moved to monster to dram fire, but after this Lota

now, when this is a Ruh, with a question, how you see, this lot? He is a

guy, a man a, a person, a man, a man, doro, when you

see frontarion, there in 2021, after the last year he got the Shogun for

points, in a lot about a little bit in a division, you know, he's

champion of the FCO, he's, just has met him a lot of the career,

but you see getting of him now on the year 18. So,

the Sunpour is a man, yeah he's very famous, he's a man

a man who has a a organization. I'm against Shogun two times. The first he knockouted him, the Shogun, the second got won for Pondes.

It's a guy a lot of a guy who can't be a lot of the other, that's his opponents. But with all respect to Vintrau, I think that now is my time.

It's in my moment. I'm also too that I'm a Usso with a foamy. The Usses, he passes much time, you know, He's just trying and Bernan,

waiting the hour right to get a minute, nobody can't get in front of him when he when he he's up to

eat, I'm more or less this form there, with all respect to Orvin San Prue is all that he

did for the sport, but it's my moment, and as I see this lot, so that

could happen it's an high level, so I see, it can be a knockout,

a finalization, or it for points, I just want to have certain to go there and to

get a lot my talent there, everything I'm my whole of my heart of the team,

my country, the people who goch of me, and with the best of God, I'm going to

my second victory the organization. He is a carterer and finalized all along

the career, like I said, I've got much, much baggage in the cost,

many, but it's for the car's duriss he was finalized by the Glover

in the clubed by the Jimmy Manoa, the Paco Jamarro, who I I said, finalized by the Krilov, like, people,

people are people for the way, for you, you know, when you're doing the game of, and then, you know,

that's the time, that's the time, you know, you know, is this U-S. Fammint,

to, or would be, maybe, in the game of the show, that he offers more than

a breach? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing, my strategy,

more or or less of making a mix, you know, to put it to back back back to make it a bit more

to do it and make it a lot of I'm sure I'm not a lot of the other day to get a

hand my and if you not, I'm going to get a finalization I'm going more in what the luta

will be being being quite intelligent know, using a much strategy,

as I'm saying, a high level we can not go to any way we can't

get to get to to go to the victory, not the important, it's

clear, it's a show to the people, but it's good to be intelligent too,

and thinking in our career, in our MMA, in our our time, we

need to be able and the future and the most important in this

the lot, the most important, the very very,

but we know, we know, in the sport, today, much, much,

the the, the guy who wins, it's the that knockouta the guy

that finalizes, there's a better, better, better, can't be, it's a way that he

can't do, the other than the other the other people can't because the guy who's got more

to make more the time, you think of you think of you think to make out of finalize, how you're

in that sequence there's a question, that's everyone who went from the first the

last, the lottee that I know, the I always I always start a

lot before the three rounds, I always try to entertain the public, always I always do you know, I'm going to

do your opponents, with an opportunity to be finalize, I always look for this in my battles.

Today, I'm going to see this form, but because of the high level of the UFC I, I

see more the 100% I need 60% entertainment and 40% I need to be very intelligent to take more decisions in the

lot to try the decisions correct in, to make decisions corrects, and as well as it's victory. We need to wince to continue a way to move in the rank and in the buska

those objectives, no, thank you. Thank you very much for your time and good luck in this rata final of preparation for a luta and that comes

the victory in this finally is-guarded the duel with Sampru. Finally, we're to fight. And with a blessing of God, I'm going to go to go to the victory to to Brazil, for the pros of the MMA.

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