MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca: Deiveson Figueiredo E Douglas Lima Trilham Caminho De Volta Ao Topo Do UFC E Bellator

Episode Date: September 29, 2021

Deiveson Figueiredo e Douglas Lima querem vingança. No podcast dessa semana, “Deus da Guerra” comenta a trilogia com o campeão do UFC Brandon Moreno, o plano de treinar com Henry Cejudo nos EUA e, entre outros assuntos, o caso de racismo que sofreu antes da revanche. Lima, que reencontra Michael Page nesta sexta-feira no Bellator, reconhece que lutou muito mal nas derrotas por cinturão, mira o invicto campeão Yaroslav Amosov e fala sobre futuro no MMA e boxe, de olho nos irmãos Paul. Fernanda Prates, jornalista do FanByte, fala dos destaques do UFC 266 e as recentes polêmicas do MMA, como a prisão de Jon Jones e a treta Khabib x octagon girls. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Deiveson Figueiredo and Douglas Lima want revenge. On this week’s show, Figueiredo discusses his upcoming trilogy with UFC champ Brandon Moreno, training with Henry Cejudo in the U.S., the racist remarks made by Moreno’s coach prior to the rematch, and more. Then Lima, who meets Michael Page a second time this Friday at Bellator, looks back at his disappointing performance in recent title bouts, a possible rematch with undefeated champ Yaroslav Amosov, and his future in MMA and boxing. FanByte’s Fernanda Prates also stops by to discuss all things UFC 266, Jon Jones’ arrest, the Khabib vs. Octagon girls controversy, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil Guilermi Cruz! My friend of Luda,

well, the fourth episode of the podcast Trocafra a new M.A. In this immense

pull of Spherra. I'm Glearmes, correspondent of the American M.M.A.

in Brazil and I'm going to this Quartal in the company of

the Dengson Figero who tries retomar the Cynch of the UFC on the day 11th of December, making a trilogy with Brenno Moreno in Las Vegas. And also Douglas Lima, ex-campo, meo-mede of Belator,

who does the guardada revenge with Michael Page, sixth-fira now in London. But, before I'll battle a pop with another phenomenon. The journalist, Fernandaparte, a eternal Nanda Popota, reporter of Fembite,

and my auto-proclamate and my own-dextest, who sincerely me make question my decision to be a correspondent Brazilian on a site American. All right, dear. I think it's just you,

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me communicate with other people, I'm not my photo Portuguese, but that's but I'm

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it's all the life for you know when

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help in numerous crises emotional existentials and I fornecern't support moral during

the inevitable resaca because not a fight week for me is a long process

to resack for all us for all us it's for all us it's the best

we're exactly exactly this does now now now

I'm like I'm like a that before I thought, ah, this is a realpao

would be a white week. Now, you know what more I can just use a moletone for ever, nobody will

look at all over the world no no exist. So, not to be in a reality will be a process a little

interesting. It's a very, it's a fact, we're in Brazil, but Las Vegas

is very active. In the last week, a year, we've had the UFC 2-6-6- that had two

cintrines in-jove, fechion the front-the-c- -l-l-l- between Volcanoves, Kibray Ortega, but one of the great

issues pre-and-posed was the walk of the Nick Diaz. I confesses that it was a mixture of sentiments via him in action after six

years and a while the last one the last year the last time the two going to doping he wrote after a eternity

I don't know what to expect of him, what expectations I had with this lot of Robert Lawler

but I confess that I'll have made a point in a point in a deception in the end a man Ries

Ajoeliodo and I a matter that I never imagined to see, especially the Nick and the Nate Jesus, someone of this family, to terminate a lot of this form,

what was your sentiment of this adventure that is always a fight week with with Nick Diaz? It's like you said, I think it's, sentiments mistles

really, like, it's not, despite the way that it's been a fact, have been a bit anticlimat

or something that we really don't associate to a a man Diaz and that's it's a

maybe Trish, but at the same time is something we always we always always a little

more of the athletes, this, perhaps this presence of spirit, to accept when maybe the

situation not will be better, but, but, despite of the final have been

a little a interview post-lut, not that we can't be able much, I think

Nick Diaz, the my impression is that he's a person that he's a person

is very, he is very very discomfortable a person, Tant, not are you, not are people, people who

really seem particularly, alleges with a camera in the camera in the car of their I understand, because it's

something that's a little bit with this, me intimidate a little, but I think he is a person naturally

disconfortable in front of the camera, he is one of the guys we just used to, to try,

not learn much in the inter-lines in the interviews, because at the same time,

he says, he says, he says he says of a reality of the world of the world of

eloquent at a very a guy very a guy very open about about his love and love

and I'm like to love and basically what he says, but I'm both, but I'm

so good in this he says a position vulnerable that is the position of a position of a

person of always so it so it is difficult to read much what he

read much in the what he is but despite of the lute

in it was I think I'm better than I I was I I thought I

I thought a thing I thought a thing that's a lot of interesting, especially a person walking

when you said after six years, and he, he was really, he was really what we're really what we

want to be a loter, not necessarily a technician, a guy who will make things much necessarily elaborated,

but that's the lotator for the lotators. It's was thinking a little

this, like, like, it's a way, it was a he's he made a

he's not, he said, it's good that I know, that's good, that's

that's interesting, for the other side, we have many questions, yeah, about the

motivation of how prepared, he was, he was, he should be there would be

going to continue? That's a, he's, he can be able to

know, no, no, we know, he's, no, we know, So it's like you said, I think it's a little

the sentiments misted, so I'm, I'm processing. I think, particularly, personally, for me, it's, it's, it's, it's, for one side, for other, I'd be a tranquil of never see him loophers. One of the time,

is that many times, the NICDiaz, batten this tegast, that had been a error to mark a lot of, he said, who marked this was an idiot, especially the Robb,

he said, he said, he said, why I'd fretary the Robbdard to get the robelore, not intelligent. I wanted to know who was the person who defined who was the group of his team

who accepted, or if, for the case he was he was fomated when he accepted and then he will have an approach a little different for a

next one of a lot if he will decide to see in the sport because the NickyDIS is a man not a guy that you will get and put to any

other than any that makes a need to be a little bit more against the guy that came to Contender Series that's

striroying the NFC. But who is the guy that you're going to put against the against the next year? To make a next a lot? The guy not wins a 10 years. It's really he's in a situation

very singular in the UFC. If the NIT that's more active in the last years just in a position different, imagine the Nick, after we have to have a problem, if he

should, if he does or not to look, he has this relation to Amori-Oge what you said with sports. We all know, everyone knows, Everyone who knows. The Nick Diaz know that he always said

he's not he comodda he's not he's always to be to the lot, it's a, it's a,

he's a, when he goes, he does he does he does that all the process that

involve a lot, he's really he's really and he's he's, he's probably he would

be going to whether he would be going to when he when he comes he's he's

he's a lot, not that he's not that's a car, Robb-Loller, but he he goes

to do that that's the part he goes, but the months of preparation of camp if it's

so wrong for him to be he should be going to continue doing this he's a car

there's a question that he should be a but I feel with that feeling confitante

to come a time every week that he's a lot and think we're so we're

so he's so he's he's soren he's he's he's he's

sort and and we should do it or not. I always I'm, if I, if someone could me teletransported to

into the Kade, I'd always would try to be a lotator. Because I really think, I see this, all. I always think, car, when a lot starts, it must be very instinct, so it's, so it's a lot of, it's a type of

capacity over-humaner that you have to take the amount of the time, that some of them, not, it depends on the type of lute, etc., but a loter with, a with a jewell arrebted,

like a reetta with John Jones or a lotator with a canel a cabrass

we have seen, we've seen with frequency the lotators passing, doing three rounds with

a lesion that a person in the life real would be going to going to

but all right to do with the suite that does there are there

they're there's a memory muscular you have insulin, you have you have

and a million things you're leaving I think for the majority of they're really the part more secure

of everything you're doing now you think when the human how difficult how difficult

you should be you say to you're doing you're going to enter in a java

with other human and will have been video of this, and if you if you were

horrible if you were nocaught if you were a result of a result of any that's ever

will exist in video all the world will have been replay of this you will have to be this to see I think of I'm thinking

for a lotator how it should be able to do you know even the natural of a camp that you're

diet you're doing you're doing things that are mentally complicated that are

that they need to more of you more the idea to enter in a lot so when

the lot when the I think I think the strange the difficult

the difficult the usual it's a contrary, never, I think I'm going to say, oh, I'm

thinking I'm going to feel like, I'm going to do you know, I'm going to question, but it's like

you know, it's the should be the question that when we're when we're when we're always a

thing is always a person should be able to respond. I think the question in the course in turn

of the question is a sometimes is a humanisant we're we know that are

people and that we can't determine in a sport inerentiment violent and perigoso, that no, now this perigua is too I'm going to be from this day, so it's a little complicated. For that I said,

I personally, would be happy this last time that I've seen the last year's that I'm in front of, and I think, particularly, too, that's been a,

a, a matter of the person to say, he's a valider, and nobody wants to to talk to Robb and Lowe, I think it's a lot that was a lot of the type of lute

that the night of, that the Nick James got to that's that's more that's more so,

for me it's a lot to find out that's a kind of kind of would be a bit difficult.

And I think I think it faulted to Brayor Ortega what the Nick Diaz did,

that was it was not to it's a man, it's the guy that's

he's a guy who passed for against against him against this lute but before

the gancho you did you give here will be the title of my

the matter, it's a Fernando Prattis will look at M. M.M.A.

What does know with what the YouTuber that you have to let's go back to get back

this lot of M.A. Well, we can do make the regra of Muay

but nobody can't shoot my canela. I think the cocha

even the chute of canela I don't have much how defend

can do it so we can establish a we'll establishes in a thing we're interested in your own your adversary

to see this interviewer intervista then so you're yeah there's always but I'm going to be

to be transport to the Gade possibly possibly disacordated so we need to see what commission will authorize

yeah we do we do like we did recently a lot which was I think was

Tenshin in Nazazcaula that was an athlete different in every round. And the

third round, the athlete was a Mr. X. They don't divulgated to who were the only time

to enter in the guy, who came up, but it's this guy here. So it's part of the thing,

an an , I mean, an the YouTuber she has a kid, the YouTuber, she,

and when she gets there is you, you know, you never to do that not, you never to

do you know, not, so train my arm to the little, perfect, so,

let's make, let's make, let's see, if you you can't put a performance so impressive as a

Volcanović that's this one of 2006, he made, maybe the best the year,

the year, one of the one of the one, the best rounds of the time, he, he was a

unanimity between the fans, many people had birra with him, because he gained of a decoable

against a contestable against he, you think, that now, you think the fans will finally the world, he is,

after a performance so incredible, in Las Vegas contraga? My M. It's difficult always to say it's always

we're always that's been exactly the type of performance that he, not you would say I'd say because I

think he's well, but that the career he could be be a lot the type of the kind of

the type of we had really showing how complete he is with an athlete was he

was he was he He can't escape to adversity, which is a thing that the people adoran, we know,

this narrative. Tantau is, that the the Lutta's the most, uh, was one of the autotas

most dominants of the story of the FSA, and that we know, and that he got a the time,

and it's got to this type of this type of so, so minotab is so a lot of

this, because of this career entire. Carrerere entire, surviving, yeah,

even the narratives, the, the octagon, the people are the say, are the narratives of

people who super are adversity. I think it's a thing human. But, so he he had

these moments to be in the worst arm of Brian Ortega, of him to get to get to

get to an adversary who's a little to be to lose to end not

to be to be to be the type of the people people love

much to see how you said he, for me, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, I don't see, if this really really, I think,

a little discredited. And there's, there's many things that in this, are quite abstracts. A we,

know, those people, we don't say much very, because not convener them and I

think he were one of these, apesar he had been been the Aldo, that the

people, even, I love, always the Aldo, perj, he

got, and he goes, and he goes, and he goes to talk, and he was there was a al-al-and-a-

and the champion that's the first, he was, he was, and he was, not-emphatic, as you

said, the second, was a decision divided, and that the people, have some opinions about,

but, you know, he gained, the, the major of the, the, discotiveelement,

the two major, the, the two or, at the two are in the top three.

So, how we're still still are doubting this guy, but he was, he was,

he did the other questions that the people could have had, because at a lot of the people think, ah,

at times it's the style, he simply doesn't come to the Max Holloway, simply never will,

there will have been, there's, but for me the sequence and the type of performance that he

put to the type of the type of the type of the type of the type of You still are doubting

I don't know what to say who I'm going to say who you have to confront to you're but it's

really a performance impressive of all the points of the type of the type of the type of

to agradar an analyst and the really a performance post-lut also was great

because he in the collective of the press was inspired the situation

of the division is that when you to have to come to the point that he

will be front to see the he's going to be a point of two guys

are the two guys are much distant from the rest of the division

that is a very much that the shevichienko is so she she's about in

back the back back the bat staca and then the rest there

in the magma the planet terrest because are much long

the Chivitienko most on the Shavis T'A that she was another I'd, at a other level.

I, I'd, I'd probably imagine that would be a little bit of she'd

not do a cartio rapid, the Valentin was sent prece, I was I'm still

there, now, she said, I'm going to take a beer beer to take a little

for the and was going to get someone in a world, not

called Amanda Nunes that's able to do a job to you answer?

You've made my only I'm like I feel batting in this tecla

and I remember when I'm I'm in the Atlantic, there's a year I'm saying defending the trilogy and

now is a position I think more popular because there we could see some see some people in

the division no Mosca but now I really I have much difficulty to visualize

someone because as you know I think the second of the category is the

Jessica the we did what the Jessica did what the Cynthia

Calvio. A Valentina, now, within the division, the options of her, I think it would be the vencedora of the Luta of

a Lucha with a Jojo, but if it Alexa, does it make the idea, and it would, it would be a

look that it's a thing, it seems to be a little time, and the Jojo also,

and the Luton, per D'Ut that she had been getting to get this chance.

So, it would mean, it would be a Alexa, she'd have this chance

finally. but at the same time I see Jo Jo Gendon of the Valentina no I think I saw that I saw that

but I'm but even but even but I'm and look there and for me what is really a lot

Murphy was after after was after the last it was all it was it was was all

it was it was she was she was she was I was I was I was

was a kid with a good a lot to say, it's so rare, and I don't

Culp any of a lotator, because you, for me, for you to be in this sport in

a high-sim level, you have to think, de fact, to think you can't do about you

ever one, including the champion, and she said, I was, I was going to be a little

to be a , and it's really, the superiority of a thing, a business, completely

avasalado, and she is in that that kind of dilemma, that we have seen various other

lotadores to be, when you know, when you know necessarily that person will gain,

you know, you probably don't be interested in continuing to be in doing it, which is

very unjust for a other because, people, we have a chance to see a

genie in action. And for other side, we can't the lot, it's a factor X,

it's intrigue, when you have you know, when you have done a lot, but you

respondent the question of the question more direct, I really, in the division, not I would

not postar in to win, to get her, I think will be able being a other moment, will have a

revenge. If a Jessica don't see, because we don't know, because we don't know, because we

don't know that she doesn't know a lot of Valentina now, will be Zhebri. If I would

have a money in who has a chance more to get a valentina, I'd

would be a batstaca because there the factor the punch of her, because she she's

because she is a because she is a question she's a lot of the first but she

would have to have been in many ways to work to make this time to be a minute and

it's not not going to see what it's a little long as she she goes to

she a mandanau or Amanda Nus Cote a perna and bat 57

and go back to back to about the but another about about

about about I want He said exactly the opinion. There was all this debate in the last week, if it was the month past, that the

Rabib gave gave a declaration, diminuting the job of the gay girls, saying that they are inuites. Not me surprised because he is

Muslim, the culture of his, too, that the Fedor also said, he said, there have

postures machists so, so there's a little of this thing of Russo and also

the religion of his, but a Valentina part in defense, tento, or, at least,

the ringgoals after the after the was, was asked about it was, and said the models,

that are the world, are the belles decorations. This was the tentative of her to defend, to be the

counterpont this position of Rabib. What's your reaction? This, this commentary of Valentina.

Well, but... Very intentional but... Let's, this is one, I think is one of

my opinions that... I don't I didn't have been surprised of the habit of having been

received with a fury, because it's an opinion that's an issue

that the people are much very defensive because, let me opinion, for example,

the favor internet don't me cancele, I will explain. I don't go to

the idea in 2021 we're not a paper decorative for women in an

event that not much to be having competing, men competing, and the ring girls

are there like a ornament. And we know that historically, the woman, the figure of the woman, is objectified, and many times, viscous, as more an object decorative, than any other thing. So, how much, I'm saying,

oh, but there ringboy, Invicta, has the Elas Theodoro. Yes, the Invicta, of all the organizations grand, and we know that the Brazil, we know, we've just, we've got some organizations, not were a ringboy, but not it's a norm, it's considered a

thing that's interesting, because the norm is, the woman, is, that's in that position. As a principle, I don't go out of the function ring girl exist in 2021. But, she exists. And the people, because

are people, and I think in this, the people, I'm going to be able on the debate, that are exercising this function, are professionals, who are not just, and I can't say this as a person who did the story of the PIC,

the way that the way they're just are there are going to get a place, they're going to

they're doing a black. The function of Ringgo not is not just not in form the round.

A we know the round. So it's a job and it's a option of these women

to exercise this profession if you're paying the costs of their accounts of them that's

your body, you do you do you do you do you have you can be able

you have consent to do that do you. Many times the big, the discussion

go to some things about the little things about the people are people who see people

people and you see people reclamando with Rabe for Rabe those reasons

you see the valentina defending of a way that's quite for me

corrobor this position that I have particularly not care not care

many different but understand the reality of 2021

the so so it's a an issue a little complicated. I think

interesting, for example, the position of Luciano Andrade, the doctor group Brazilian,

he commented, I said, oh, we're, we're saying, I'm, I could have the my

master's in, I think she in, something, like, right, she's, doing this,

it's an option that I did, we've been to respect the people, the, Rianne

maybe, said, I'm an person, I'm a business, and I'm So are they battling

against a stereotype, very prejudicial of like, so, because they are, they are beautiful, not are people, are objects,

we look, we look, but don't have liberty, or see how explorations, or see how, so it's a

discussion a little so complicated. And then you join the fact of how you have the questions

cultural and religiouses that the the, the reasons for which he probably he reprova

the existence of the Green Girls with the same objectives for those

I don't not, I don't support the the paper in 2020

the concept exactly. But the concept, as existing, I think the important is respectal

them, as I know, in an area that maybe you don't be

for you maybe, don't be a option, it's a choice, a

we can talk the system that it's a illusion of of choice, in front of this debate

that will be during the podcast but I think respect them to respect them in the end of the count as people who are

being paid as being paid as to do a job and that's a reason, because for a she, ah,

they just they're just an effort specific to the office of their and this all to be

respectate. We're we live in the world that everyone wants to adapt to

do everyone wants to criticar, who wants to take a decision by the life of the others, that's very complex. It's more one of the issues of the world of M.M.A. It appears that

in circles, this is a matter of and a while atone, someone says this, I think he's two years ago, I remember who it was, in a cargo

of an alt-scaleon was from Australia, of New Zealand, when the F.C. I would have made a event there that would be to prohibit

a ginger. So, every hour, every way appears someone, when it's getting to make the BDL

in these stories. I'm also, I'm not having this conversation with other women who accompany the and not,

many people don't agree with me, no, with the Auxagon Girls, infin, I've had

discussions acerated, including about the issue with the issue, so, just,

making sure that's just my opinion, but, but, but, just a form general,

is, how you said, and the thing to prohibit the woman to do that

this function it's a paradoxalment more a way of the way of the women choose and

show and show you so it's very, it's very loco I think a conversation

very interesting to you ask you you can ask that we think we

can talk to talk about we can't think we the form that is the

kind of constructive, it would be to be all the people to be shinging- and I see to see the the video of

Rabibh, what I'm what I'm talking about is that I'm not sure, I don't know, we know,

the way so it's not so much it's interesting, it's a prefecta Melbourne, that gave this declaration,

or so, a woman taking this position, uh, to create uh, the other,

to see the career that that they're that they're that they're decided to their position

of her can be, because this is degrading for the women, but what you're talking to for the women who are in

that position you're you're going being a paternalist with women adultes who were a decision for them

themselves, so interesting, many camadas, many cams. Always, and for talking in polemics,

in the last year, the same, the John Jones apronted all of his and, surprising,

a total of zero people, there was with the other, but he, but it was a little

one way, but this this was a case more grave than it was it was a case more than the other other cases very very, like

for example, bathe of car and get to be able to the arm of a woman grave, this time he was

not many details of what really happened but we know that was a case of violence domestic,

so I wanted not me ater to the case of his, I'm to the

general of M.A. That, for me, it's very difficult to encounter the day-a-day

of the report and MMA in a sport in which, infelisement, this happens with a frequency absurd and that nobody more

seems to be sure how you see how you see how you see this when you see this happening again and

again, and it's like a reality that the people passed to expect to say,

yeah, M.A. this will be going in the last week when

the second said the UFC not a Microsoft that he has seven hundred lunatics in the contract

he's like, the guy to get a little bit a little normal to Dan White so I think it's very

very much to encounter this like a routine normal for me to me to car

this sport in the way that he happens unfortunately the John

John not was the first and unfortunately not be the my response

is a suspicion profound and significant because this was

my news in the second last. It's very complicated. We have

this conversation in my podcast and I have her frequently with other people of this question the way

the way the MMA, than other sports and other things. It's difficult have this dimension

because are reality very different because we are much immersed in this world in a

form that we're in other but I think what what happens for MML is much

centralized we have an organization that the FC that Apesar of terms

other organizations grand, it's it's been a little the pattern, so we're

a person like Dana White doing declarations like this kind of minimizing the thing

this is it's reflecting to the sport to a form more, more ample

like, like, like, like, and it's very kind of kind of

it, poras, voices, portas voices, Portuguese, it is difficult.

You have Pockes Pockes people talking in name of sport There's a thing

that your ex-colegue Pitsy Carroll commented It looks that the MMI doesn't that

the PR of the Cessoria of the other sports have the the athletes

not don't so briefed as as other other athletes of

other sports and I think they don't they don't necessarily the consequences

that athletes of or other sports entreatenance for a question of an issue in question of public, whether the

issue of in terms of suspension or even retaliation financial, which it's where it's

and it's the opinion public even, it's it's a MMA it's a

a little different this and there's many motives, I think there's

a kind of of the origin of being a

considered of a niche and of outsiders so you you

I mean, I'm going to a type of a type of a type of different, but I think also also there's

much a problem of consequences of these things. We've just seen this again and the new,

the case, the classic, the Greg Hardy, is a guy that was basically recompensated for he

had a case of a supposed aggression, that we know, the Dead Spin published

with photos, and it's a thing that is a a case complicated because he

came to be condemned but he because the victim not appeared and they're not necessarily

legally what was the process but but it's a case he, he, nobody

didn't know, no the discourse public, nor F.C. Nor, in the defenses of his

people say, no, this never happened he, this woman is a man,

no, nobody didn't the thing, the thing, but we

create a create a story of redemption that we're taking a lot from where because it's not

he never even publicly he's retratory or he's efforts material for to do fact to show

some kind of kind of of a repent or of the want to be retratable but he was a guy

that this happened when he was in the career of the NFL and where he went to find

the space in the MMA specifically in UFC that did question

to not just to do do it, and just to put him to cover him Conor McGregor. There are

many things that we can refer to the comportal that go to all the spectrum of the

aggression and type of violence. What exactly far up this, it's, it's affect

it. I think it is a thing that under the culture, as you just,

we have accepted as the common, as a rotinerer, Mike Perry, who was

a ex-sposor his wife of he accused he was abusive with her. We can't

talk in a talk about it's a unocated, even innocent to prove the contrary, the justice

has to care, not the paper of the UFC to do F.C. But at the same

the F.C. basio the market, the model of the F.C. the F.C. F.C. doing what

they're doing the prerrogative the way that they structured the own the

own the do you are demititit This is going to what we we believe is that it's

and much people say, but are they, they're going, they're going, they're going to, they're going to they use this

prerrogative in various occasions. When when in the case of a aggression, in a case of a domestic, they're going to,

ah, no, then we're we're going to the investigation in the end, we're just waiting,

we're just going to this, pass a message, in my opinion, of you, the, of you, the things are,

that's, normalize, I think, that's much more these things. Enfing,

it's a other thing a complicated because I'm a person empathic, various days I

say, ah, you know, I'm not I think in second chance.

What I, what I think the what the man of the guy will do the father will

do the family the car thinks, the that's not the not of my

account, this is between it, what I think there's a,

a, a, a, a validation public of this not a

a validation a a certain with this type of conduct and that really it really lever to what you

say, a normalization. We see and see, and see that nothing will happen and that's that person,

and if it's not a chance in other chance in other place, we're we'll have been a attraction in other

place, and will gain to get a other place. So, it's very complicated. I particularly,

I've been more, me sent me more, less invested in MMA, and this is very

part of this also, this culture that I see, I'm like in a cycle viciousous, I don't see much,

from a side, I see a perspective of because I think we're just putting, I see fans talking about

more more, I see the people, conversing about things that we don't conversed about 10 years,

but for other side, it's difficult, how you know, and I'm not too on day-a-day-a-

yeah, like you, when you, when you know, and then you, having to do-and-and-and- to be-to-so about with these realities and our

own participation on how we lead, how we need, how we discuss, how we're perpetua these things. It's very difficult. A we see,

for example, in football recently, the robin, he had the case of there, a judgment, there in an case of an accusation of stupro,

and the Santos was talking the ball, he, doing normally with a contractation of his, so,

just desistial when the patrocinators entered and said, no, if he continued, we're going to say,

and then the Santos did the viz, the case the case, perfect,

that retracta, the guy was banning the NFL, the MMA receives be of the brausers the Brasses, the Dana Watt

give a chance to him and not just do all the everyone maynese a second chance, so be a

second chance will be in a lute a lot of the UFC. The guy will end up the guy

to go to the first if he's not for prison, if he will be judged, in the

case of it didn't get to be the process legal, was all he's a judge but this

second chance of his second chance of his word has to happen on a TV aberta for millions of

people who have seen and they're a guy as a example, it's very complex this,

I don't know if the has been the postura of this is more more than before it

was a back back he was he was he was he was he was a peter

on Twitter about his obstubro and he was he didn't live the the

he he was demitied he, he got he went to work after he but he's

he did somebody he did someone who did he don't make a idea, because it looks

the UFC today don't he he's going to criticize but I'm I'm with a question with a

ESPN here, I'm vending so I'm so I'm so I'm on Twitter did a

material in some saying that the UFC you're very you're very you're just

I just I just I just think this this is a new day that the ESPN will be able to say,

we don't care and get a garage and lootan because this guy has a case of violence domestic

notory, that all the world in the United know because the guy was very when he

did he continued the famous and he will continue the he will continue the same because he's only do you

really do you know, and it seems the impression that's that the people feel more puttas of someone

not bathe the the person of someone, like, to someone to do something to make a lot of

a lot of a lot of even the own, in certain cases, than when an athlete

a woman, for example. And you can't be this for, ah, it's because

I don't say, legally, I can't say, I'm not I'm what,

but the message for me that gets much clear, is, Like, like, there are certain

things that we don't tolerate, there are certain things that we consider are horrible, but I aggrat of women, not necessarily can't be inquadne

in this thing of crimes imperdoable, I'm saying, because it's a want to cry, and it's a we know, that we know,

we're not just of MMI, you know, like you say the football, I'm the case, Robinho,

we know, the case, Bruno, in finn, that we, it's a, it's a, it's a,

it's a, a toxicity that I don't know until what point is a more or

more pronounced or more volume is a volume is a lot in M.M.A. I think pass some

messages very, uh, I think for for women, I think the case, Greg Hardy,

it's the, for me was the poor. It was, it was a tap in a

car real, because it was, it was a person, if it

wasn't not, like, no, this guy is, this guy,

he's lot, the, this is the stagio final of his career he needs he needs to

this chance and we're like, not, they're, not, they're not, they're not,

maybe with a potential atletic that's a lot of a circuit little expressive, put it on Contender Series,

and then met an OXC was very, very, very, very, much, much,

much, much, much, I'm one of those things that I don't go, I don't

I don't, I don't, I don't point of view of a point of the point of the point of

the case Greg Hardy for me is what me confunds until today in the motivations

for the thing that's interesting if Dana White had the same the same

postura in cases of violence he had he had the time and the Jason

High for encost on that he could say if he was if he wasn't

if he said no encosted no armito no can't you

put the battle the baned never more the Yeah, but it's to see, the story

is in the story is the story of the case, if he if he was a bit more more consistent

with a question, yeah, he considered the Jason Haye to push the

after the after the death, this aggression so grave imagine, as he would be

to try a question a but they're things things of the FC unfortunately.

I have to comment one of the figures most villainized for me of

the FC is Maria Maz who is a who is a who a an arbiter

a lot not say in quite many and you can say you can't make a case

about, he made, all those they commet errors, but even maybe if you even,

maybe, even, maybe, I think, I think, more damage than than other

other, but, but, like, let's guard this energy that we

you left to transform the guy not paria for the people who really committed a cell

crimes in a real, de repent? Probably, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Who know,

Dan, might be the point, I'm going to not think it will be able so soon, but we'll

let me make the climate here a little more little more a pause in our conversation to see the

interview that I gave with Davidson Figueroero that will do the trilogy with Bendo-N

Morae on the day that the Fernanda is more than in Mexico and passed a time recently

with a new new champion, the new champion of the official after this first time. I'm just just right

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we have Davidson Figuero, the ex-campion, the ex-companion, the ex-Moscar, the UFC, that's with a trilogy marked, contra on Bramorne.

But first, before, before to talk to talk to this, about a thing that I want to be sure, when I see the Instagram,

that's your social, that's your style, you, your clothes, your own, your own, someone,

you have, you have some personal style, and it's all, creation of your mind in order to do your

guard, the world, this pose of a champion. I always always liked to call attention

I'm using a bonnet a nice, a rubeer a lot of a lot of something, something that's

so there poe, it's a man, Gregor this same way, man,

he's, he's like to call attention a way that he's he's, it's a

guy that I look much, you know, that I appreciate the way to be

and I I'm tent in this pegada, but that not be there very in a pegada of his

my head and this style is a little bit of a point that you're a cabreleer?

Ah, exactly, it's because when we work with the the we get more

vaidoso you know? Who can to be a cartzine legal, a barba a barba

just not not is feteen because you have seen the career of training

the we can more in this area is a savage I mean, but I'm

the way, I don't let's you're not I'm in a lot of the salon to do that you do you

know what you do you have you have the the time you have the stuff you was the

thing you that's the world and far the the fault of course your

your routine is lowca yeah oh it's yeah but so before I think I

think I think I to have a time to more to me to be in the interior that's

my city Sori seeing the friends with my family, my friends, my friends,

my voh, today not have more my vogue with me but it's

something I I carry with me, I carry with I'm in a real my refuge

my can't I'm in Sori with my Voh my Voh Kela was a

city a city when I get there completely like a massage in relationate,

you're going with 33 years this is a thing you take a consideration when you think the future of your

career, to not stick to make the life even when you have energy and then enjoy the life well

after the MMA? Yeah, I just confess, everything I do you do I do you

do you? I don't want I don't want my life in the area of the but I want to

to take a moment for that I can do a better for my children, for that I can do a better to

my own to be a little to my my postentatoria and I just want a interior

a little a farm with a food with food that I don't say

all food that I do all that I'm going to do are

some fruitas, are the criada in the kintel you this

This city, for me, is just for a diversion. It's just to, go, let, let me get a money, let's re-vis let's re-vis, let's see the

that I see much, so, for me. We do not, it's certain that God has done. But it's

something I want to be really to me, man. And when you do this plans, you have a date

in mind, like, like, I think, I, even, after that's no lute more,

I'm going to stichard much, I'm going to like, so, I'm like, so,

like, those 35 to to front, I just will have a idea, no, it's just the time,

but getting to when I'm going to get to be, I'm going to think it's, to get to get, to get to get to get,

to get, it's a thing, it's a thing, we always always get, that never,

nobody's a man, the guy, does he, then, then, then nobody doesn't,

I'm, so, never, never can, always there, yeah, always, yeah,

it, the, our life life all, yeah, and the life total, it's a

time, it's a time, then when we see there, it's a hour of a lot of

and you get to that you can't be in the academy, you see the people, you've been to

you know, you just are making the new, and then, there's, I'm, there's a

person, and I'm talking in family, that's a thing is very important for you, and what

you know on your Instagram, you were been pedied in a the way of you're in a new

that's the same what happened it's the man that I remember that when I'm remember that

I'm coming I'm in a house of she did do you do not my house I'm

in the time I was just a man that was a man to work

and I went to the father she had a mother and I'm the mother I'm

when I went to her same situation I did something something very good

very presented and I know, I've got an alliance with her alliance with

her car I went in a commencing here in a city and I said

I don't go buy a a man a man aure a I'll

buy a I'm aso maybe I'm a with a

little some some little this man so even this

alliance car a an alliance very simple but very

beautiful thanks a God, and she's she has got with a lot of very care. I'm a

woman, because when I know I know that I remember that I work in a motorcycle, always that I

had a party in a carnaval, I'd get a year and I'd get a little bit of

her, she'd and she and I was a good, I can do a person,

I'm a woman that I know, I'm a man, car, I'm doing the my life, that's my

life, that I can't I'll accompany the creation of his, to sign all what I learned. My father ensured to me

my mom. My father and I can't pass this to him. Very legal. And this question of the

question of the question of the question of we have this culture machista, that has been the woman

and that's a person who's saying, oh, the woman who can't make a man who can't be

different, yeah? It's a different, yeah. It was a part of very sinister. I remember

because, the Maisena, car, Maisena came to get a let me know a for a part of the patro

today, I'm going to say, let me know to get a for the time we need to go to be

a little with them to say, but I'm to say, let me know, let me, go,

boy, I'm, put in a car, but I'm there's a lot of tourist here in a

city, yeah, and getting there, I've been my my woman much,

so, I'm, no, we can't get to be, we can't get atrazated to be in the hour but I don't trustee

you know, just conferee you know, let's come prece, let's go let's go ahead, let's go ahead, I'm going to be sure a lot of people, like,

people, here in the city and it's just for the night that I made in in a casamen. I'm, I'm getting

all right, I'm looking to say, car, the first I'm here, I'm here, my first time,

I'm, man, it was a thing, man, I was inganed, but something

very good very good so I'm being pedied in pediment I'm very emotional in the day

and yet today we we guard car today who who did the

accompaniment was those they did filmages for us and something

we're really we're very very great very very great and

talking talking to the trilogy marked with bando

Mora and the cunturon the k but, being sincere,

you would you have to be a opportunity? You know, but you know the

when I'm in the proposal of the Fc? Porra, I'm sure. I'm not surprised. It's

because I knew that the lot of he was a lot of he's been man, but but I'm

got to the troy will be the sturture and I'm doing a revanch to the

pantos, he's getting a he's got to be going to get to keep

this and it was in my He said he said he said he said he said, he said, he said, he said, come up, you're going to do not. You go, he'll fight with him. 11th of December, he accepted.

Poh, man. Like, my man, I'm feeling, I'm happy for a caram. Feree really, so, to know that I'm going to be this trilogy with him. It's a camp totally different. Today I moved. Not I'm at front of the academy more, as I was before. Now I put my gerent. And I'm going to go ahead.

And I'm focused on my train, though. So my train even, just conversing with R. in Cerrado, with Eric Baracin for that I can go to

go to work to get to work. So, on this car, and I can't get to get my centuron that I'm presteed

there. There's a academy, but first, the Sehudo is it's an alienable, when is you

go to that, how it's that's going to be that, that you did you, that they were,

that they, became, that they're making this but now, but now, you're going to work

together just, don't work, is, we saw that he's a good

he's not back to 57 kilos when I'm to bring to Brno I'm

there's a guy that said for me that was to control more my

because so every every every every I would I'd I'd

I'd discord I'm I'd definitely I'm definitely I'm

not even was something I'm something I'm I'm this

before before before the time but but But even as

so, now I control and contorneed this and go out of Brazil, I'll train out of the

I'm trying to work to get a time from the time out of Brazil. It's what I want to me

understand, it's a different, it's the people certain at the front of this and to talk a

life there that far that I can't when I can't, I can't I'm,

I want in life of athlete. So, so I'm going to go out of Brazil and

to be there for that I can't get a seaturon and maintain him for much time.

The Brano Morana, he was the Tuft where the Serruda was a team rival

he was the team of Benavis but obviously the Sehru also was there was there

show, I'll see the guy on the many times you're going to

do you do you do you all of the time, all the day is very very good

yeah the Sehruu also and so Brin Morae is a guy who

vacillow with him trained with someone who who worked with him with Serrudo the brando was in a camp

of this guy helping him to look at hisrudo and so the Sehrudo passed for me this is good

because at least I have a guy who will be going to be to be helping and who

know that's all all right he can have been he can't be sure that

I'm sure to work for Futuring in all the camps you know there and doing

certain, you get fixed there, morando or not? This is a thing, maybe just,

just to do camp. No, exactly. My plan is to say to Brazil, but I

said to go to be going to be so it's going to be good for me. But what I want to

go to go to Brazil, if the team there can be good, I can

be sure, that I'm that this lot of this lot was doing a

campaign for it, we did various interviews, you just called the

Moria, of froste, he's like, he has to accept this lot, he got the respect

for having to have done to have done to get to and have done to sit and to be in my respect,

I'm not no, I'm have any respect for him, I'm not I'm going critical,

he took the he was trying to try, he was trying to talk with other guys,

this is the attitude of him, but, but, he's, maybe, he will

be, after this lot after that when we're when we inventers, you know,

but now I just want to try to my cintoral. Why, then, have your respect? Yeah,

it's simply simply because, the treatment that many Mexicans came in my prevevee,

you know, by the racism, they're racism with me, I'm, I'm a man, that I didn't want to

go to go ahead, I didn't, I didn't, the professor of his time, the post-lota

came, me, I'm, be a belea, let's this for there. But, but are these

these Mexicans come in my perver, me shing, to make pala-sades with me, bully, you know,

that the Brenno Moreno no, don't have, no, I don't have my respite. I'm,

he was the trainer of his post, and he also, he also, he's a

character with a market now and October also, you, you, it's,

it's, you, it's, to make, a attitude with relation to to Marcel,

maybe to do a reprehendid on him? Exactly. I I'm I'm sorry

the other the other but I'm doing the but I'm just the mind of the God,

I never would have to the UFC to take the organization until because

you know, because you know, the guy had the family of his was the

error of him and that he possibly could he could I I'm in

hands of them That's the type of things that you use with motivation this incomomod of this

situation of racism a more in this preparation for a lot it? It's a more more,

because the simple part of these guys come in the media in my great, I'm doing,

make a lot of many, marks, a photo or he me, me finalizing. I'm

I'm, I'll do this response in the Octagon on the day

on they're in the And the fact of the Luta had to have a finalization, was one thing that dued more in you? It was, because, por, I was, I, I didn't forget my jiu-jitz totally, you. Cometed many errors there. Not was he picked my cost. Simply, I gave a cost to him. And for the position there that he was supposed to, I'm trying to to take to

take the other the other the other the way of the first of the revenge with not to focus

100% in what you have to do that you have to do that you take a lot of other things I'd

want to want to want to and I'm to make the part of the training in the center

exactly it was it was there was there was there's there's there

there in the black and was an academy exactly so so so to

reptilize it to let's colorida you know were in things of things,

and I the front to do you was a contact with architect, was to go to

go to buy the things or I would be to look to bring to

the Brno more or I had in the academy and it

was the I'm I'm I'm never I'm I'm I'm

not I'm I'm to be the other thing

I pecky I was with a sparr to

me and two guys of box. I needed I needed to a game different. I'm doing

everything now for this little different now to get a five that I'm going to find of this, that I want to to say from Brazil, focused just in one thing. BATERN No,

on Brenno, on the day 11 and recuperate my cinturon. When you go to the Cerrodo train? I probably, probably, for the day, five, I'm going to stay in the Brazil. And, along this part of

the academy and, you feel that in some other form you, maybe have left to see a case, this thing, like, I'm, oh, I'm a champion, for, fest,

I'm the, but, even more, the form that it was, never, beenceeing, we're breaking the

record of the end of the time, you know, you're in sort of you're doing

to see the head and maybe to be dislombing? Subb the head I think

no. I'm a man, I never never did the single super

to be my but the thing, what I said to what I

said to be, I've done this year in a hour error, I'm, I'm in

the front of her. Something that I don't I never do. If I'm a athlete, I'm a little bit

if I'm a little bit of you know. I'm a talk about this real thing about the man, you know,

if you're not going to get the last time, the penultimate encounter that you did a repulh-ne

on him, the last you never got up there, and much people people, uh,

the fact you've been put the fact that you've been a major of your part or it

or it's the game or it is this you'll have to empurrown there's a there's a

there's a trustal in a hour and we have to do you have to do you have to you know and for you

to make a lot you have to be a little more more to be more not get there's a man to

the car no man man we're just in the cold there there's not there

there's this to make you know you want to get to be you can be a man of this

it's it's sign no old he You think there's an exaggeration in the part of the people who were the people see many of the

people, this guy comes to this guy, he goes to he goes, but when it was you're doing, the people

criticized, they're saying the most. Exactly. Some people who, guys, have seen a

M. And I don't know because these people assist in MMA if they, if they, they don't want

this, I know, in MMA there's much, but, but, it's a market, we have to

do this market. It's, the, the luta will be be without self,

I'll be a little the guy's a man the guy the guy's the man,

you know, that's no, no, there's no, I'm going to go to

get to Morrow yeah, so you still, it's the first, it's a

first, you think, he needs to be good, and the second got to

the finalization, how is, how is this third encounter with this third encounter, I'm training

much to do a game with him, especially in a strike, that I

confi, I'm going to pick him, I'm going to train a lot of a game of a lot of blocker of

his blocker of his own and he can have to be going to be very different now. It's a

kind of you get him finalizing, devolving the finalization for him? No, nobba

doubt, without, no, nobara, I'm, I'm going to go to know, if I

can't finish this car, will be the troco done, bad, bad, I'm going

to come to and a bit of head and I'm good with my guy,

I'm going to my people and I'm with the people with the people, I'm going to be your

feeling like all the thing for all right and it's good, it's good,

you're going to get a statue in Sorrow yeah I'm I don't know,

I don't know I'm saying but I will be so happy to go back to my

city with a centuron I'm nother with my family I'm with my poor, I've used to my soul, I'm getting, to try there in six months to commemorate this cindulal with them.

Manila, my cabarado. Thank you for, your attention, for your time. I know that's a correa there to retina final of preparation pre-viage to now in this new new house,

training with a Remus Sehruus in the United, of preparation for this lute is important in your career. Thank you for your attention to my friend, my.

and rebeenta in the Lutra when you're going to get there, you can't count with the hour that you want to be interviewed and say to talk to me in England. We'll have to talk to Douglas

Lima about his duel with Michael Page which will be a mini-event of Belton 2007 in this week on the other side of the line we have we have the Douglas Liman

that this week re-inconrae back in London in a london in a lot of The first was spectacular, a knockout incredible to the Brazilian, and now this second with Michael Page, first, welcome to the podcast, Mike. How many times the course for there?

Thank you, very, okay, so no, I'm just in the spirit here, now. Differently the penultimate Luta, that was in the Mesaid, now we've got to cut the peso to set, set, to, are in these days final of cut to peso. I know, but it's of the war,

yeah, but it's da-gare-na-half-a-pire, does part, in the final, it's worth. This 7-7 is, poche, it's always me difficult to be to be able, but what important is that I always I always recover well. So, there's more two days of swore, to run back

this piece, too, and Sextafeo will be 100% prepared for this war. You're a guy who lute a time, you're a lot, you're with 33 years, will be to be 34 in January. You see, maybe,

in the retina, maybe, in the future, to move to to the way to the to the peso to make continue to continue in this cord of

the cost of the cost of gastat? I think I think I always say when I'm always when

when I'm never in the time of the last time we'll be going to get this

this person no, I really really is getting more better, it's

more, it's that's that's that gruda more the so, let's let's

let's let's let's these next these next but I have much

want because that I That time that I lute in the CIMO, it was very tranquil, the cut, and not seemed so small, you know, but, I know, I like this Pes-Tas, I think the CETT-SETA. I think the competition is better, there's a carer to a caram, but I don't know if I'm going to be more difficult to beat this

peso. I imagine that you should have to take your decision to cogit, with more force, the PESO METO, in the time that starts the cut of the PESA de-Vo-N-D-Best, you know, no, no, no, the Midey is my house, me not, not the other. I always

I always say, I'm saying, I've been talking about this. A week, when I'm going to start a most,

that I'm, that's the time, I'm saying, I'm the last time, the last time. Then when I

first, the macarrow after the past, I, I've got to idea. But, poche,

the last really, was very difficult, but, after I did see the first time, then,

after I, when I did the last year, it was this way will be more

fast, but I don't know for much time that I'm going to be in this category, no. This, now, the battle is against the Macopage, you, now, you know, when you talked about, you said, you said, that he'd be able to start to choose adversaries, right? Infronted the top, to get the right to

infantic you with a revenge, you were the champion in the time. But you, you surprised, you, you know, to top, inventing you, now? No, I'm going to say the truth, no, the guy of the Bellator who really, who, said, well, there, what will roll this lot of this

lot, what's you think, what's you, po, of the boy, so, so, so, so,

so, the car, never I never chose an adversary, no, poche, he,

he's, what we know, I think, it's a kind of, a guy, with a car,

to do, two, after he did, after he's, but, now, it's,

but I'm, it's just for me, I'm, I'm focused in over, pox, I'm,

training, because it's a a lot, a guy kind of complicated to look for the because of the style and all, so, I don't preoccupy more nothing

of this. Now, it's just focus on the lot of the other, and prove really that I am the best

one way, that's important. What important for me now is the lot of the title, so I'm going

on this here, I'm going to get this one once a one single. What did what did

in him as a player after the first for me I think it It's not, I think the style of his is the same,

the guy, poche, that's the way, of that's for me, no matter of the thing is, he's not,

the thing is, he goes to these last one opponent of his, he, he, he, he, he, makes the

guys the car error and he, so, so, I think, it's very, because,

my focus always is the same, I'm there always, he can do whatever he can't,

that I'm going to be in my, know, I think he he don't, I think he, he's,

I'm, have certain that he doesn't enter in your head in a guy is a provocator he has a

kind of a kind of he's a kind of a way to get a thing he's a piece of a person

kind of so I'm I'm a job at and for me to say the for me he's doing

those manned of basketball when I when I when I was never ever ever I never seen that he was

dancing and doing the last the way because you have to maintain the focus

to maintain a a head good in a way, if you're a peller,

not there's way, it's a way, it's not to make a way, so,

for me, is to keep the because any error there is fatal, no,

a rhy a man, a shot, it's just it's a put a my job, and it

could happen what happened there, I have to get to focus on the lute. The

McCutely, he was a against you, before you, knock out with that

with that sequence with that night, you think he really better than you until the moment of the knockout? Is it something that he did? You're surprised at that night? Rapids, one of the

thing good really that he did was that was the knockout and he took up in the course when I was for the same there. And then, it's normal. I think I was going in the lute.

I was more in-simmed in the first round, before that was that the soko, really me left me grog but I, but I recupered very well,

I think it was three seconds, I was three seconds, I was was good. He started to make the hand on the joeigh,

and then he entered that second is the question. No, I think it was quite quite there's a

thing we're to make some that we're in making more what's the first, and we've got to come to

how you can't be a lot of the carrier? Rapes, say the say, the club in

little, bluvinia little, if you went, if you're, you're going to get, you,

The thing of his is not the force, it's a velocity, it's very rapid, I think, with the

people are in the most of the last year, I'm in the we're in we have to focus more to not make sure,

because it's a bit of the goal of their and it's different, so I think that it that's the

other, the velocity, but force, these things is normal compared to the other. He gave

an interview saying that you don't have been not evolved nothing from the of the

of the what you think you think you think it is part of this this

job mental of his just trying enter in your mind that yeah I'm

that they're against it's about to try enter in the mind I don't

I don't I'm really I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm really but I'm part of evolution when I

don't I'm never I'm I'm I'm always and it's no interest, no, because we're not because we lotter

really, I think that we're it's just that's it's really, I'm feeling well, and that's what interest? These two deroges that are you are the fault of what, then? Culp of mine. Demorey too,

my, there's, there's a hour that we'd do a brank in a hour, I was trained too very well, but, poche, in the last moment I came for back, there's I, drank the guard, and

I was, I'm waiting, not waiting the time to pass. So, despite of not have received any damage, no, I'm not quite I'm not quite,

we're totally, we're not, we're trying to, we're going to, the next camp to the fight with him, we're going to bring some guys

to wrestling to the camp and all, but the cup was my, totally my, I was, I was trained,

we did all certain in the camp, I was feeling well, akecening to the I was good

too much and, poche, the time there I was in the guard and I'm waiting

to the time to pass that was a error, the error fatal for me for me.

I'm a way to have to move to do something to do a brank there in the hour.

I've really fey, very very fair and this battle with Michael Page,

the first was the last was the last year got to get to get to

the hearting to get to get a bit about people

I think, poach, the fight has to terminate, have to finish the fight, it's three decisions after that's the

last, poche, 25 minutes, 25 minutes, I want, with a knockout, finalization

that is important, and with certainly is to wince, but for me I have to terminate this battle,

I have to have to have to dolead to do, what, if it's if it's

point, it's to be three a zero, all the rounds, you know, then, then,

there's a to prove to me for me myself, that's trained much, I've trained very, I'm feeling very well,

I'm going to be more aggressive, I'm more aggressive in this look at your lot of the whole lot of the entire. This is the first

time in some years, that you're not a champion of Belton, in a certain form, it's a lack

of options for you, maybe to take a other room in direction to other organizations,

like, for example, did the Michael Chendra, that, that's, that's, out of Belator,

after that after the other past your this possibility, this option? Fais, to say, I never,

never, I never think in this, no, it's more easy to me to look at the category

of the same now, I think, if I'm mean, I think, after this lot,

it's a little bit, there's a year, two years, of contract here, so I don't

think so I think so much to be going to put the with the friends with the

some grandin good, poxia, it would be da but other organization, like, like, I never, never,

I never, I never, I never, I'm not, even more with three-lutts after this or no contract,

it's been more time more than you retom, for you know, a, well, the focus, is always,

you know, I'm always, it's a campion, I'm in an organization here, to be a champion, I've done

this many times before, and I want to be the first, I'd turn four-beast in the category,

poach, I'm not sick to peg this ammo-sov to-o- to pay this derot horrible and that,

po, the game was good, but the game was very, so I'm to do the vote for

Sim, and I'm back to him back in those people, you know, and the

Bellator, the Scott Coco, he has a posture more flexible than the UFC,

for example, in liberate athletes for, and other events, or so, in this

case, in a lot of a lot of Michael Page, which is a name

very very very a man, a guy strong between the young, the

guy popular. You know can't maybe this possibility for you?

Rapes, I'm sure that's I'm sure I'm like the guys, I've got to

be able to be quite so quite so much so we're sure that I'm focused here in the

page here but poche I'm sure that this happens even like

he's he's well he's well he's well he's a lot in a lot

in a lot lot in he did some some some guys there

who's just lot that's a lot of the world, I'm a lot to be a lot to be a

lot of course, if this happen, it's going to be fairer to be really, not I'm if you're

going to do those shows there, know, but we're going to be really a hour,

to do this these, these, but what you'd make a man, that's, that's,

who's going to be the getting the four zero, he's, he's, and the other he's been

a guy who never got, never no armad he got then you'd be in the more difficult, or would I like that's a lot more,

if you were a grander, too, if you were a man, man, man, I'd say, to say, to say, to say, it'd be,

by the money, butch, and there'd be, any, it would be, be a present good. Posh, I think would be of any of them of them,

I'd say, but, to, say, the guy, the guy is d'clock, the guy, Yeah, it's really, po, been to see the Woodley

there, the guy train a lot I see that he's a professional all, he's very,

how can I think he's really, he's a man, he's a man a man too,

like, not he would disrespecter and say that he is a because my respect

he has, because, po, got got there's a lot that he he's

but, butch, it was a new thing that's let's see a this one day

happens. But, but for we can finish this this is a lot. On the 6th-fea-gainting, you can't have a new chance on the

cinturon, and how is you apaga, how you define this lot of horrible that you did with him? How is you gained? Oh, man, you have to be a lot-up, you know, look at it, poe, push, you know-for-not-naut-you-da-pac-a-cout-a- , it's, to be able to knock-ocian,

in a finalization, the thing is to look at the M-M-K, poche, I just drank the guard, I didn't do not, man, so, I don't want, you. It's like a morto. Even in par, I don't soltey the chute the way that I wanted, then the thing is to look.

It's a lot. It's a lot more. It's all right. And, with the rest of the end uprolete it. And it will be. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Well, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. De-vote with a Fernando I guess Fernando who

know he's He knows he's a I'm a I'm a I've got I've got I'm living

but never I've got to pass more more time with him even more now more he gave the

space even more more than a person who is a lot of how is the brando more than

these fight weeks these locus that we're not know not not know not

don't know not he's the he's he's very he's very foo.

No, I always I always I always I think, you know those athletes that we

know that's we're just going with the car and it's always was this the Brandon

Morano for me I always I always I think that energy of his that he

his smile of him of him that carina of like that all

it's very so and I I like much the story of him

I really and he even says when I don't have I don't have

time to interview to talk about 15 minutes but I kept I'm going the interview

he did with the media day with the public and a person I'm not

a person I'm not a I'm not if I could be I could be I

did a career invicto and he gave to all world and nobody

nobody didn't see I I'm not this person I'm not

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm but

this is legal also, I think this is very interesting I think it's a

for most fascinating that's a job like a job of Rabib or see an an athlete

like a Valentina Shevich which despite the unta for Amanda

is a person extremely dominant he is he is a guy who he

he was he he went to really to work to really to get

a man was a man to he was a no ascending, because I think if he not wasn't, you don't have done this trilogy.

If they would think that the Deison could finally win, they don't are doing this trilogy, because I think could, even quimar

a, a, a name, like, is the Dixon, because if he he perj, this third

luta, what you do you do you do? He will be in that kind of in that kind of kind of

a situation exquisite in the division, but, but I think the Brandon Moreano is simply

a person who exalal energies positive and it's really low and the my marid who is

also a journalist and a he's a career of MMA and he he says and he really likes

much of he he's we've seen many of lotators that have this discourse of

family that in public they're posting photo with the children and with the husband

and then we're there's some something in the sun that disment

a little this image and with Brandon, we don't see this. He really doesn't

seem that he's creating a person he's he really really seems to this person,

he really seems to import to create, with a structure for the family of his,

because also there's a, you, it's, a concept of, the concept of

the money generation, now, today, a few of us. If we leave herderers, we don't

not are leaving an empire to because we're a fudied and it's all right. It's all right. Exactly. We know,

like millennials, this is our crisis, yeah? We live with a little and even think in things in

being a property, and I think that's a problem, me seems, and I'm a problem,

a little of Brandon Moreno, to create a a security to a family of him. And he

is just a kind of sympathetic about, we've seen this. I think what we've seen after the last was very cool

the second particularly with Devson going and he and he it's, it seems he is a

guy genuinely legal and I exitto much in saying this in BMA because never never saw the day

of the day of tomorrow he's defending the person to the case he's the he's

the Q1onon legal Ah, but he... Legal. Show, he don't think he vaccinated in vaccine. In fact, he was vaccinated. So, this I can...

Make a point possible to show. This I can't say, because he said, he had taken the first dose when he was doing a media day here. But, you know, he, from me,

one of those guys that just exhala things legal, you know, very attention also, too, I really, everyone, you see,

he was doing the interviews, he clearly was but I'm trying to really doing a effort to give a attention to everyone, think in the response

to the questions, really to give a content of the people I think this is all so, it's all right, he looks a guy, like, it looks a guy,

like, what I could analyze, but we know, but in the world MMA, not always the guy is a guy that's a

world of a villain, I go to the car mal, the bad boy and how, how is the vision of the

Mexicano of now that he's a champion, he is a man, he's, he's, he's,

he's, so on a celebrity, because the UFC for the UFC's always to have a champion Mexican nascedo, but he not was born in Mexico. The Tortise the same thing, it's a reason,

you know, no, but not were born those kids, now it's a champion Mexican, he's he's not, he's not, or still not,

even is starting this work in the FECA. Look, for me, it's difficult to say, because I don't have contact with the world there

not far, no, even TV Acabo, I just see streaming. I came to I came to before

the first last the first he was for Rodrigo my marid when he was in my podcast

I asked if the Brandon Moreno was going would be an event an an

an event something something that the people really are and what he responded

if I remember well he's like will say in the

general but the MMA and the officer not

necessarily enormous here again now So, so I don't I really don't see, I really don't see

if he is a starla. Because for my star, it involves you say from your middle, you know? Like, you say from the

middle of the MMA. And it's loco to think about this, and this is a, one thing that's a

also when I'm asked about the other people, and I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, we have been a

different, but what constitutes a necessarily a starry, what does it, what does it, does it,

and in the Brazil we have now, that's in a phase very different, you know, yeah,

you know, the Davidson is a star, Vincent Luke, who didn't get to be champion,

I think, the Charles of Bronx still is a star, yeah, he is the division

is the FEC, is, it's a sequence of the success, but,

but never never never never did he finally would have a important to do a

event, he had to do the world of moronoe and he's public in the stadium about his

to be the but he's a champion he's been a car of bombero in San Paulo in the

Guarujah there, near the car of his car of his car of he's

he's a story he still, I think he a man people, he's good, he's really

good, it's impugant but but I think it also the MACC,

the Macna the Macs the Brazil, and push the guy,

because I think many times at least here in the Brazil, it's a lot of the world,

construct, you know, because I don't know how the F.C. use your machine promotional to,

other, put a post-zion on Instagram, to do a post-zion, a video on YouTube, really,

to really, to get the what I see in the States in the person, for a guy who's turned a

champion, they pick him, they're the day the day the day the day, he goes the

programs possible doing interviews, doing a interview there you put a global to go to be the time of the

interviewer by Anna Maria Blaga, a Fachamberna Fáchamberna to do live in the studio of the global

sport, to do you do it's not a thing that not a thing that's not a so it's not

it's a country, you don't know not are all those who have this not some there's

this but it's a thing could do do you can't do you put

the part the the question of the pandemic, we get a little, for example,

not having, it's other world, not having, for example, I, I'm made a message to

Rodergo, my marita, for he responded, I asked, the Brandon is a star, he said, he's known,

a star, not a level of Kain. I asked in the mainstream, he said, not much, the,

the, the, are, they're, they're, because in Brazil, it's far,

you know, you can, you can, you can't, you can't, you're, and in the other

places of the world, it's a situation complicate a little more. It's not no business for him in Mexico and all this

affected. And then you put it, you know, it's maybe if he could be a headliner in a card here,

now, or in a moment that the things are more abertas, then, you'd be a identification different.

A we know, we know, we know, the Brazil, the Aaldo, for example, for me, the great part of

what made he grew the way that he grew, was the fact that he he looked so in the

real that he was a chance of a chance of a connection and really assume the title of the real

and we're now another thing and we're like he said we did we did it when I was

doing it was to do go to the day entire on the globe the people

probably are more more than than champions today in Brazil

because they were a visibility that other the athletes not were simply because of that platform.

Today it's it's all a little more difficult to analyze, uh, we're doing, it's very easy

when in Instagram and say, ah, this person really is very popular and famous. You get a taxi, a Uber,

and the person never will say, who is, so I'm curious. I'd like, I'd have the chance to

do a chance to do a event as a as a champion see how can be so you're going to be

this opportunity? You think he has that the Brenno does that the trilogy even as a one of those

those luts very low yeah, we've seen two times one was super aparted and a impact

another, the brin-gone in a form decisive and even so I think collectively the impression that I have

that everyone I think the everyone knows that I think I think that it's this first has a way

with a type of a lotator that is a lotator with a capacity to terminate to end up

to do forms different rapid and this is the style of his really

It will signify that in the Lutas of his people will see this factor like a little bit we're talking with with the difference that I think he is more technically

sophisticated sophisticated. But, so, so, it's very difficult to me to say, it's loco,

I'd say, I think, I really, I think, really a guy superior in that second Luta,

because really was a, a victory contundent, but, knowing what we know what we know,

the Diverson, and how we saw, that first the first lot, I'm

very difficult to know what will happen I'm going to I'm very very curious to see

how the how do what he will be physically how it's because it's not

much in the one of the first the second not was very not for six

months the first was the first was the first happened the three

several after the last it's three several after the

last of the Rehaino Roeval, and one of the things that the Davidson reclamed in the interview, was the case of racism, that he accused of racism, Marcelo Rojo, one of the trainers of the Moreno, who's, for who, for you know,

he posted photos of Davidson with emojis of MacArthur before, and the second and the Davis was in front of the case we talked earlier, with the fault of the Acese with relation to this, with Baselk we've discussed, I imagine that you don't have

surprised with the inertia of the FC, in front of this case, and not to have been position. The massive that he was the Dana White saying that was a attitude nogent.

But this is a world of the luther, many things are bad. And that's nothing that he could do you could do with relation

to this. Really, there was nothing that he could do that he could do that he had been a Ruhra.

Now, on the day of 16th October, counter a Brazilian, the Daniel Willie Kett, and they're

getting down the bauder, let me get on the combo here, go to him back a maybe there's more you're trying to,

cases of racism, counter Brazilian, and maybe lucar in on the way to look in the

question of the question, I'm in the next time, the other the UFC, is full disclosure,

Marcelo, he was my trainer here in Mexico, a trainer, like, gave the classes to

me and to my marid, and I think the UFC is in that he

has been he's he don't he doesn't do anything, because if if not did it, what will happen? A we've seen this

again and de novo, I think the way that the way the F.C. did it was a great example of how they can do what they're and know

that the consequences will be minimas because the maximum that will happen is a some reporters were in counter that was what

what happened when they decided to continue with the events in the pandemic in a moment that really not

does it really not does that they're they're they're going to

and then even more the people of the people of the people doing

a while and then it was John Swords was it was John Oliver

doing a how this will affect the thing how it's how

the public that is there John Oliver saying wrong

of after the after of course of this because I

I was watching John Oliver, I love John Oliver, I'm trying to all the problems of the FC, and I continue, and I'm covering. So, as, as soon, it's the only thing, they're really,

they don't want to have to have the Globo Sport doing a matter, reclaming, how was, that was Aive Rodriguez, who did, I think, the first

denunci, the thing of Rojo, and you also, did the, did for MMMI, so, I'm going to talk, I'm sorry,

so. So, so, what, what this will move to the UFC? They will to not have fans

for cause of this? Maybe in long-pras because I think that a market and if you

are continually feeling the market in the future maybe this will be able to you know, but I don't

think the F.C. are thinking so long, I think they're thinking where we have a accord much lucrative.

As you say, if the SPN and say, I want that you demit this car because

if not, then we will see some we will be something going to have a very little

little incentive for the FCA to act in the same of this thing you know,

it's not quite particularly it's that's not a thing that's not a

a, a, a, no, a know, that's really what

was, it was just the not to say this, no no,

no, there's really, no, really, no, really, it's,

it's complicated, because I, it's that I'm just I think it's disperancosal, like, when happens, but when it's,

but why, because, why, that's, why they're going on agen to do it? And ultimately,

I don't see them aging because there no, no, and it's not, the point,

the world, it would be to do it to do you know, to your bolso, to you take attitudes

that will benefit the collectivity, but unfortunately, not so the world works, like the

person, he don't, he don't not even he don't, he don't, he don't, he don't,

but at least that you know, that's probably, that's a not necessarily, but you position it,

say, it's a point, it's a thing, that's a thing, he's going to, it's not,

it's not even, maybe even even, maybe even so it's so that's, but we're a new energy

a little better, let's talk the UFC of this Saturday that will talk with

Tiago Marretto and John Walker Walske doing this lot this little

There's much in the game to the game for the winner, there's a lot of the

game to the matter of the marita is being to be in three derogers, the manned

definitely the first time doing the first in a main event. What you expect of this lot?

What you are you are prevending for this duels Marietta and Johnny Walker? I don't

I don't I don't go I'm just I'm sorry when I'm talking about a podcast with a

energy good with a good talking about about this I mean, I made it Mal. I thought

it's, I think it needs to have a necessity. No, because, infin,

we've conversed very about this. I'm so much fan of Marrita as a

lotator, I think the story of his story of incredible and for me it's very

very true that he had lived the age of his that was that was

a lot with the and he went with two derotas

and one in a a lot chata, which is the only thing we don't

expect of Marrita, that was the Rattit, Rakit, I think. So he really really, as you said

in a position delicate, and I don't see how this will affect the style of his way he

will be to looker. Because, for one I think the mental of Marrita always was

very strong. I think one of the great trunfes of his was just this,

he was a guy that was a person, to me, a journey improable

to at the top and much the base of this I actually he's a guy that's a really he's a

effecter for much even by the life of his he was in the he wastes for no he's a

mental time he he has this mentality so I like I don't go to enter with the

the peso of those the result of a surgery that was a recovery was a really

a that it's that it not will affect he's not he's not

and a we know that this kind of really it's really it's really it's really

a lot of a position really because, particularly when they are very based in attack

in, in, in potency, because he is a lotator very physical, the quantus can affect

even more with a loter that has a character of a guy like the guy like

the so I'm so I'm so I'm really curious to the body so he

seems too in form as we know because he post a

photo of two and two minutes most of the whole and form he's nothing. Nothing contra. Nothing contra, Johnny,

does what your question man, but it seems to be very well very well, and as he

is a position I think he has more a gain and less to lose than the Marrita.

Emborra, even in the case of another case of a lot of an auditor that was with that

that was a minute that it's, it seems to it's a tent, right? A we, as many

athletes like, oh, he's incredible, perfect, and marvellous, suffer a derrota, ah, a death,

be able, like, it's, like, it's re-structural, and you think the attitude was

very, oh, incredible, perfect, and sofered a derroth, he was,

a, he was a, a, him, a, he never was so good, and this

is the he, he's, he did he had been much, he's, he's

in this journey to prove that's not the case so it's to say that he's not

to get to be a but I think the only the end up a problem more of the pressure

just for he had got to the position on the top and have suffered those

those so I'm I'm so I'm very curious to see how this dynamic

will affect the two I'm I'm so much I'm I'm

I'm so I'm so so I'm so I don't I think

I I think with Marrita for durability, but it's not a palpitch that I do with much confidence.

I tend to pender by the side of Marrita also in this luther, knowing that's having a chance of a guy,

as you said, a guy, as you say I'm not with you exactly what you said, that you said, a great

to be more to doer more to the future of his career than to the way that were the

if the general would be the a shot 10 seconds, this is horrible for him. But, because if Marretta perished, are four segued, if John was going to get, he perde, he perdeo to a

guy, who is one of the millions of division. So, I think this lot is importantism for the pretensions of the career of Marrita. I don't think if he'd win, he will spot the centauron, but he is a name very

very strong, and he's a victory over the Barrowitz. So he ganna this a lot, he probably will maybe be a good victory about a adversary certain to have a new opportunity, but this

are just are for the next next the next we're we're going to this edition this edition of

this edition of this is there thank you that's a class for the people, for us the audience where they can

you can't you find on the social and read the and read the because you can't

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