MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Deiveson Figueiredo, Rodolfo Vieira & Vitor Miranda

Episode Date: January 12, 2022

O Trocação Franca está pesado. Ex-campeão peso mosca do UFC, Deiveson Figueiredo analisa a trilogia com Brandon Moreno e os treinos com o ex-rival Henry Cejudo, enquanto Rodolfo Vieira comenta o duelo brasileiro com Wellington Turman no mesmo card, o UFC 270 de 22 de janeiro. Vitor Miranda, veterano e analista de lutas da organização, prevê o ano do Brasil no UFC e quem pode faturar cinturões em 2022. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca is back with a trio of great guests. Former UFC flyweight champion Deiveson Figueiredo breaks down his upcoming trilogy bout with Brandon Moreno and discusses working with former rival Henry Cejudo, while Rodolfo Vieira predicts his own UFC 270 clash with Wellington Turman. Then, UFC analyst Vitor Miranda — a former fighter himself — looks ahead to Brazil's title hopefuls in 2022. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, hello,

amic, fan of Lutta, well, the 10th episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a sua case about this immense bode of Sphere. I'm GailermeCru,

correspondents, the site American MMEFIRE in Brazil, and I'm going this quarter on this quarter Friday in the company of

Davidson Figueiro, in Havana in California. But before we'll have to talk to with VITORNDA, ex-turb of the FC, participates of the

YouTube to Brazil who has been been done too much as much as the list of the national of the FECN in the Brazil.

All right, my Maw- Bealeh, pleasure, thank you for the convict there will be a

pleasure to talk with you. The pleasure is all my my, man. You've done a great work on

your own channel on YouTube, I've done it's a lot. I've been a lot. I've been trying the backdoors of the life of the athlete

and all, and it's about with this structure that the UFC permits, we're able to use the

image of the for the post-lut, analyze technically what you know, what you know, what you know, the world

every world every the aspect of the process of the same of the MMA how is this new

career that's been made in the UFC? William, is like, it's being a blessing for me, it's a thing that's being

a lot of a way way very great because when I created my channel in 2017 I still was a lot of

FC I thought I don't know what will do just register because what happens

in 2014 when I did the 2014 when I did the important the importance to have

a vitrine for an athlete, to show your day-day, to show your character, your family,

because the Tufi proportionate this. The public is related, so connect with the lot of the lot of

the guy, and pass to be a fan of this guy. So when I went to Tuf, I

became in the cameras, I said, and I think I what I can do, the channel

combat and not not go there in house every day to be

film. So I need, then I'm I'm going to I'll open a channel. And then I'm doing my videos diaries there, the training,

the day of day, 50 visualizations, 60, 200, 300, then it was augmenting. Even so, I don't know where it would be there.

When I was I was out of FC, the channel was well established, just with almost 400,000 people,

doing a job, po, the FC me He called, and said, man, let's

do a quadro on the channel of the FC Brazil. And it's a

team of marketing, or the team of media, media social of the

social and came in contact to me to be to be a thing,

I don't have what I could be something something that I didn't

in the market and then I did this pilot of the Goli

in Luta and I'm became impressed with me myself

didn't that I had this talent, because I never had made. And then, this thing flew, it's very legal.

It's more difficult, when you would be doing, when you were to do an UFC, or another other of MMA,

you'd sat down, and would see a video, your adversaries, and, it was more difficult

to do it, is more difficult to have the idea of your adversary, is different,

or is a much thing? I'm, I'm to say that it's more because there's a

got that got a thing, not there's not the not the level of involved,

because when I see, I analyze a a lot of a lot, if the guy does a good,

a good that's a little more that the guy does. But I would try to be

this of my adversary. If he had, for example, a chute very dangerous,

I don't inautosia this, I'd I'd try to diminish in my my head. I don't know. I'm not.

I'll continue resolve. So it's different, you know, when I started to analyze the other luthers,

sent this compromise to annular the game of the car, it was a little bit for me. It was something

to do you know, it's very great. You've mosted a talent for this dance of YouTube and

before we did this program in the F.C. You impression. I'd I just show attention,

athletes that not have a vision of, to work, to work in people know, many people who people don't

have to be the UFC, MMA, is a sport, not it's entertainment, it's sport, it's a try to take

the lancis that meritocracy, that's not a thing is a thing, it's a business, the UFC, he's back

to sell, pay pervue, gain of the when you when you see the voters not, they don't,

they, they're, they, want, to be, You've tried to go out of the local

there, you, you, you, you, it's got to get to get to

get, car, this thing, this is this thing, but if we're

the name, it's show business, what is show business? It's the show business, more the

business, more the thing about. So, we need to understand that not just a lot.

And I discovered this, I was much, I had many the

SORT, I participated of two Tufes, I participated the second edition of the Tuf Brazil as

the team of Minotau as a team of the third edition I I participated with a

athlete. So I saw the importance to be to be present, for

more that we as we as we as we're not approv those those

those those breakadera and aggressive in the second edition of

Verdun sequestral the minim there and make that lot of the lot of the lotters

but we saw that we saw the repercussion that it had so in some

way the he needs and do you don't need to say

saying saying saying you don't do you need

provoking the other if he also he's also But you need

to find a way to and the my way I think was to show my day-a-day I don't

say any a word on my videos I don't I don't not say not I'm not provoking

nobody but even so I've got many fans for

because to be to me to me to show so so

so it's important the athletes do this I see it

difficult I know in the belly, that's difficult. I

did things that I'm repenting today. I've still to edit a

video. So, because it's very very difficult, do you do this so soon.

But today is getting the legal. If the guy has a two lute,

you can't do you can't an colleague, an extragiary or someone to

edit these videos, but it important to show, I think. It's

important to be but the Brazilian has this culture of your good-s your hero

we can't not say the we can't talk about nobody, not we can't get quiet and be there

and be there to be a fanfarron but but not it's not it doesn't say

to say to say it's incorporate a a culture American has received

much better so it's you have to put a a head to function and it would

be able to see, and what the next part of your career? You see

a new a new a new a little maybe, maybe it's la la banked,

commenting event on the live, it's a thing I would like I'd

do you do that a lot so the people, like, in the under the

under the question, well, Vita and contracted by combat I'd

have to talk about I'm talking to live but so it not will

be the same thing because what I do you do the

I'm not when I see the lot I don't see many

things different of different because we have the time real

there has a torsid so you don't you can get absolutely

then you can't I see things I don't be something

would be a a job also a little more razzed.

Not there no more quality, the same profoundity of details than I'm doing that

when I 'm pausing, walking, putting in camera later. It would be a

other work. But, with that's a future, we don't know,

I want to continue to do this time possible with the time possible with

this year, I'm going to my channel, also, And a cool that I want to do

for this year I want to create a quadro in my channel to do what I did in my

channel with the personage, but as I don't know not even I don't have no lot of

I'm not I want to do this with other supporters. I want to pass two days with a

lotator for example of the FC and to show the day of his presentation

or family to what he generally usually usually usually usually

can do, and it's a contribution mine to show my the process of this lotator to the public Brazilian, and

it's a way to do you want to involve the the luta with a production of video.

And then what will do, if Netflix will buy, see, then it's so I know

I'm sure, mania, I, I'd to ask, to make a analysis technical

rapid, of Gikikas, and the Calvin Keeter, that we'll do the last time the LUTTA this Saturday,

but I have sure that you will say a analysis complete with images on the channel of the FCC, so I'm

going to pull this part. I'm going to just pre-ve that will be lot-s, because are two guys

very d'Uros who are going to do that poradier so it will be spectacular. It's

will be legal to analyze it. It's will be to watch to watch the channel to watch

the show to see this year this year I guess to make a previso I like to

imagine a lot of a ball of crystal and then the your head is technical without emotion

you know I'm sure for the Brazilian I like to see the success of the friends

there in October but it's a general for this new year for this new year that's

who can't who can't who can't be able to begin for categories of more

more more than the more the other no piece in the realer in the rank

is a that's traversing a phase illuminated coming of excellent victories

in the last one got the rob font for a guy a

very good he was he said he said he said a other absurd

technique and he he went how you how you see how you

see how you the time the possibility of can find

the winner and Al Jemistern, you think that Dada Aldo if roll this opportunity?

With Peter Niennast would be a revenge with Algini would be a new. I think the

Aldo, because, so, the Aldo, is a phenomenon, is a land in the sport, and what

happened was a derota very low for a fact that, like, not will not occur more,

in the when he went to to him to McGregor, that he went in the

not, not because he he was with a bit but he's justed him too cabreiro to destroy the McGregor

that he he's out of his characteristic that's to go to more tranquility with more conscience,

with more discipline, tactical. And I I believe that he will commit more this

error and he is back in a category that he is going that he's still he's impugated

to know I think the lot of this impugation this ghana of this gana of

to conquist something more. So I believe that the Aldo has a

capacity he can, but I believe that he has this emotional

now to give more this fire and get the title of this category

and the Peterian is brabo is a do I

did the who Oh, the Koresen-Hagan. Yes. Barre, the Korye Zerreig, loted very, for a caram,

did a strategy a little, but the Petri-Anne was eating, was recovering, was recupering, and, and it was a

kind of a style of a game, a strategy like the other, he comes more devalal,

looking what the guy will do you what the other is doing, he starts that later, and then he

comes to start a when the the adversary is diminuting, he's in a sanction. For this is a lot of difficult for Aldo, because it's a game-present. But I believe in it, because capacity, technical, experience he has

of the sobri, and I think he's cagana, more one way, to be champion. I perceived that I even poliocese Moshe, that in the semester next, will have the Davidson looking the signetron of Voto, what do you think is that will do this trilogy? The first termed an impasse,

and the second, he came to finalized, no. I'm, like, I'm so, I'm a pessimist. No,

I'm not, I'm not, I've got some some, but, but, it's much more instinct,

this I don't I don't I can't , I don't see, because the two, the two

different were very very, very, very, much, much, but the

style of the, the, so, much potency, much force,

and the Moreno is more belisking, so it's that's who can't impose

the game, so if the Davidson could put a patada to get

to debiliting he a little but now, it's not getting a

more more difficult. If you try the I don't see I don't know what can do

but with certainly it's a lot-upon no in the no business we're not

no business but in the no piece in the peas in the level we're very we're very a year of

2021 illuminated yeah finalized the porier after after being knocked out of Michael Chandler

everything it's the next adversary will be the Justin Gate that is a guy

that has a big a a base in wrestling I don't if you just you

just to just to just to be a little bit of the game, you think the game is favorable

for Charles despite the guy has a man very a man pesidious? I think

it's a cause because nobody imagined that he would he knocked would be

he passed for a suffoced in the first round and then we had we had

we came the the luther with the Gaid that was a battle

but the Gates I don't get to get ridroba. Now the McGreg,

the Charles of the Bronx, derobobobo the he's a guy durisim

who's very very very winning much a lot so

so I think the can't have conditions to because

because the cause of the he doesn't the how good you are

in wrestling, enter in the with the with Charles not a good

idea and especially the wrestling for he to saffar the chan

or he needs to be the he's a custom of wrestling and then

Costas is with Charles really I believe that he's in a phase really good

so it can be it it's it's it's a domino

in some but in this moment I think that all I think all

to continue there's the dourin the d'urin that's viz of the

different Thompson, but the better put in terms of ranking, but for the fact of the way of a good point of a good

back playing the opportunity of his but the problem is that in the top of the division, there a guy called Camaro Usma

that the guy is unacadable the dominance that he's getting, you see the Usman or see the Luke or

someone getting to get the Usman from there down. Look, I think

you think the the game of Mark Luke's guy, the, the, the,

the, the, it's very, it's good, it's a man, he's not

a job for him in-p- and the guy, he's better than the

he does that he does that he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

he's, a guy, that not a lot who I can say, he's, he's

not a lotator, fast, fast, to be, to be study, It's easy to try some strategy for him

because he is very versatile There's There's bigotious, and I think that There's chance, yeah, there's chance to, you know, it's a chance to accommodate Usman. So, as we're just you, as you know,

it's a moment incredible, but but, but always there's a way to get, you, never, there's a thing that the thing not, it's, that thing, it's, that's, it's, that's

hope because the guy, they're doing together during a time, so at least

the time, sometimes the Vincent Looks know something because the good, the Usman is evolving

much to each other in the but even the fort of his wrestling and, and,

and we need not, we need of a time, of some years of experience

to get to a new level, because like let him Alex Poatan against a guy

that's good in wrestling and is median in the trocaation but for cause the wrestling of his he can't leveler your

with other looters that are much better than he in the wrestling in the trocaation but not are so good in wrestling

this is the this is the this is the locus of the MMA it's basically we've seen with the Rabibh

Khabib doing a knockdown in a grego because he had been pretty almost with a Ked

so in time. Exactly. I see, me consider a excellent kickboxer, and I pennava to gain of some guys that had no one in time, so they were good on the show, good in wrestling, and this me limitable.

I don't could set all the whole my game. This is the fort of Osama, this mixture. He not is too good in he does, it's, it's better than making, but

he doesn't have many resources. We just see the jab, the direct, the gulfs cruised are a little disengoncated, but the

guy does the beer, the bejab, the fejohn with the food and he has all the baggling,

and grappling for the back to give the support. So, really it gets more difficult,

but for that I think, the trocaation for the trocaation, the look,

is much more, more experienced, more versatile, and then as a luta starts in

past, everything can happen. In fact, you said, you're just one of the various Brazilians

are still one of the various people who have been a banded in the other Brazilian, there's

the Rodolfo Vieira contra the Turman, there the Robocop, there, there,

there, a galo of Brazil there, uh, subiding, subbing, subbing,

um, but, trying to do a, a bortida, do a, the centuron of the Adesania, of these who are coming, or,

maybe the bohachin? Who, who more you inspire a confidence there? That's, this guy, and get the Adesania, the centuron, well, there's no, it's not important,

man, man, man. The fish, he's, and was, getting, I'm, so, I'm, I'm,

so, I'm, the clanded, I, I've, with a blinded at the tuff, the guy,

the man, the man, the bad, the, I can't say, I can't I was one of those folks

that I'm that I've the story. Because, the bish has a man, very big,

very very bad. And so, someone will be back back back, and the two

were going to go to the top, and to get to get to put, unfortunately,

someone will have to do a lot of a lucinant and that the guy

that's the person that doesn't get more more moral to continue to continue advancing.

But, I think today I would pick the Poatatan and would invests a good

money because I think he he has capacity to wince the Adesan you can

you're in a carocault before a moment to Poitam did a car who did a career

very much a game in two division until to get on the FC and it's

more better than when he came out of my cause with Jules Dabadoa he

He gained two times of Adesania, a Nogatia one a year one of the year and the difference

because the clinch is different the quayette, the quay, but how you think you would be a lot between

them in the NBA, in the general of MMA, seeing what the Kiko Adesne

did with the strikers on the UFC, contra Gleppers, I think. I think would be

basically a lot of kickboxing with a lovinia small, because Adesania not would try to derobar

the potan. I'm sure that not. What could be going to happen is a clich more demorado, fatally, for more trocadores that they're going to blow

in some moment. And then it can be that that's in the advantage can't try to pass the foot or catar the per-perna-perna, but

not would be a meditated, I'm going to dervare this I think they don't think they're not they're not thinking of this and what has been in a lot of kickboxing

in the FC and it's not the octagon is very great and the Adesania is a specialist in this movementation so he would have

much space to be movementar and to work with more tranquillity because to the trocan San Franca he don't

because the potte is very very hard There's much more contundance than he in the goal of the

so I think he would be this job that he does, including with the

lotters of the grottes and he makes and say, much finta I think he

would be this same a same a same a same to wince for the for a

15, 25 minutes a crossad that he has been I think would I think

would be trainer of him, the Glover, the Glover Techeira, who made history in the year last, is the other a athlete

more than the first year, finalizing the Garovice, who is a guy who got the Adesani making much

the quads, making a anti-jewel to not to try with Adesania, he probably is very

probable, he'll be to Rasker in the first defense of his centuron that is a guy that

he's a a trocaation different, the car has got the not the local

little bit of the quadruelata and all right you think the the game is favorable for the gover

because he has a a trocal a box good, but it's a car chef

of his or you or you think it complicate the the global

the pro raska has there's there is more in the it's much

knockout yeah maybe so be so be so be so so

counter the Glover, right? It's because the bitch is perigoso, he, he's he's a thing, it's

a lot of, like he's up to be down, to be back, to be back, to see, the left,

his clotelada of his, cuthabilada of his, really sinister. The game, so, it's a

battle perigosissima for to the Glover to maintain the distance, maintain the med,

he has to do what he does do it is to presson, presson, presson,

presson, presson, Like he did with Blakovic he has to do that because he can't

do a space for the porraska to create because he is very, he is even inconsequent

he, he backs a barda pull up to there, but but not not to

pay to see, what the guy will inventer. So it better abaffed

him the more rapidly possible and then then, then, then,

after the after the after the ground and it is that the last,

you know, of the point of the prasca and expect a quack, it's still a break,

for the government to get to be able to get to him in the way. And the glover

can take a advantage there, because the prohask he has a characteristic to be

movement much, so he can be a man back, and he and,

and before to knockout the adversaries, he just he got many, various, various

goals. And, and, and, car, to make a crossad-

the glover, no, it's difficult if the car to be in a

so the Glover can try this to start this to work in place to work

a guard a back to try to try to try to make to make a

hand to make a man can't be can't be not caught

yeah between the the people in unfortunately in

the Brazil no no there no there very

very very in a rank that, I'm actually living of some of the result, but between the men's, we're well, we're being served in all the categories, in the more leving.

You could be in contractar, you're with a 10? Ah, you're going to be so much. Fazer, to get to do for 9.3, yeah, so, I'm sure. No, for 9.3,

it's at 8, 4, never more. It's. Between the minas, we're very well, in the more leving in the most-levene in the Peasumosca,

a Taila Santos is in a excellent phase. But the great problem is that the champion is Valentina Tavitianco, that's the day is to be to be able to

work for a while and nobody nobody can't do that no pesumosca, no. So, Hall-Berry

went on it. There, you see this this film? No, I don't, I don't know I don't,

but they're doing, but they're those more more, the more, it was a good, it's, it's a good,

the film. but it's, it's really she's a much good,

it's a lot shan, a bha is very complete so complicated

to get the so soon so so I'm in the division

we're with the marina rodrigues and amanda uh...

has there have vina there's there there's who is who is the

first to get at the rosas spada, depending of who will get

this possible dispute centuron. But apparently the marina Rodriguez is largating

in the front, she'll get a last time in the future and she win

this dispute centuron. I love much the style of the marina I'm

like a bitch is very intelligent and the malco who is the trainer of her

does a work excellent very strategic and she has much future

car I think she in the case there's a statured to the

end up in the end up there's a there's a shock to everyone that happened to be last in

she was a finalized by the marianna no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, but will be a revanch that probably will happen against

Juliana Penh, how is how you react you what, what happened in December,

and if this, if this, if this mud, the form that you see

Amanda, the form how you would you would be able in a possible revenge? Ah,

car, so, what happened with Amanda, it's interesting that the people who analyze this

this lute in the but they say in the commentary, ah, the Vitor not is

not analyzing this because it is impossible to an little a lot of

this question, right, man, I'm, and then, I feel thinking,

man, we are we're men, carne and osso at least the corded and the

business not say and there many things to analyze and the only person

that can respond this is the proper manda and maybe maybe she

can respond this question of pressure of two

two cinturons the the time of the training

and just to be dedicating to be to be a champion, all this, it's influenceia. So, it's difficult to

say, and then it and then it is a lot of, it's kind of natural, it's like, like, she'll know,

let's know, let's know, we're going to her, it's accelerated-as-as-as- it, it's strange to see,

but if we think, that we're we're people, we're in some moment we're not

in a phase of a lot of something that not did certain, as a way,

some there's some problem that made her get in a way but in a revanch if she

she's if she recuperate this can't, I think it's not even

no, I'm no no no no I'm but I

will, I will see this little I'm put this on my channel.

I'm going to do you know in the but I'm going to talk about this but I'm going to find out

something to be something that happened. It's not didn't know any other interview, so we don't know

if there had some something if the camp not was good, but for the time specula,

because she didn't, not, not, we're not going to guard yeah, I think she

the best, the best of her would be to get and win to the

knockout in a revanch. It's but now we're to have to have to have to a quick

intervalal commercial before before to do you before but I'd thank you thank you

thank you your your machine in the question here count for the general where they can you find

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And then my profile of Instagram, which is Victor Miranda underline UFC. So if I see in these two midas, I'm very happy,

but the Bonnette, he's scone the new, the new, so the other. So, I'm

to take a photo new, so the little bit more, because the bonnet, it's could be

a care, So, it's an old. I'm going to this photo. I'm going to I'm going to this photo now. Have to do you.

Got on gel. It's up to do. The other side now we're talking with with him from Davidson-Figuero who's in the day 22 of January

and the Brno-Morrenno the trilogy that he battalue to gettalleled to get all to get the thing, my friend, you know?

Opa, my, my, man, so, it's in a retent the rata final, so the things are all to to the poor.

Now, more tranquil, but also the cardio augment, the the piece

is perfect. I'm in the house of 2-2, and it's still in two months to the

little bit. So, I'm being feeling very strong, man. And prepared to get

the my sturted him, I'm presteed to Vena Morina, now I'm going to

go to get to go to this is a normal generally for you

get to this fast of the camp. In fact, a week like this in the

last of my last few years, I was in the house of 67, car, 67, battaliening

to get to get to get a 665, you know? So, it's the first time I'm doing

this, since I've started to work with Dr. Raphael, the the guy

always saying that would be to be to be two with 500, 400,

for me to me adapt to this piece and train strong.

Of this, I don't I think the guy was traveling and I'm two, I'm going to

get a lot but not I'm in six two and I'm trying to three years in the academy of six

six eight to equal to equal to the only difference that I'm very level but the

force is the same the velocity is the level I'm I'm the doctor's

so certain what was what was a move in terms of diet and training to

to get this piece that you think that's that you the world. the first, it's

first it's moving a family, right? I'm going to find out of my family, in New Jersey, a man exeuro, a guy

exceptional of people good of the man, with Eric Abracinia, barracina and the other coaches that I know this guy

who are out of the series much of good attention too down for me me and I feel like that's nice I'm sure in this

part of the Cerrudo that is a thing this camp for a Loto Conto Moreno but the Lutto Moreno would be originally

in December it came was being adiated to January this month that you got got been got a bit

just to wait you've been this balance with you I was in the certainty, it was perfect for me, certainly if the lute had happened

on the day 11th of December, I would have chequeer to the fight-to-the-pess, so it would be more a suffering to to bring the the pay-the-peat-the-pest, I'm in the expectat-a-2,

training, strong in this me-a-2. That's just aggreged, I'm going to get 100% to the better, and much more is a good. You're

happy to finally to do this trilogy, and not have more to say to say to talk and think no Briando Morena, because

since December of 2020, it was the first time when you were the first time that was in front of a hour, that's been a final, it

was a I think it was a error, it was a error that I would be able to not would be not would be

but anyway, but anyway, now I'm here, I'm here, I'm now I'm here with the new Gogo in

mind, I'll have I'll be certain that it's positive. And a trilogy in sequence, there are various

trilogias in the MMA historical, but that's that were long as long as the first of a trilogy

jat, in one and a month will be being made as three luts, you're happy to finally

to finally be able to no, no, no, no, no, no,

thanks to God, yeah, he's, it's, it's been in God, and it's

been in God, and if If it was in the want of God, roll out of a quarter, I'll let's open, before you get my cinturon. But if God, if God, God,

not direct, not direct, no? I'll have to go back to go ahead, I'll have to go ahead and to my family, car, because are more of 15 years of strata, and, without me

to get, without my family. Oh, for example, now I, I passed in Natal, I passed my anniversary, I passed a virada of year, and now I'm

pass the anniversary of my son, I mean, the way of the we need to keep up obstacles to have been to

get a front, right, this is happening with me. But I need to

my son, I need to be a little, to come back to him, I'm going, I was

not never said, I was not playing to say, but I know, the guy,

tell the story, no cellar for me, you know, so I perceive that I am I'm very

more focused on the work than the growth of my baby. And I

want to be going to get to work 100% of him. You planes to try to leave your

family to go to not? You want to do you want to do you do that

much? Very, very time I'm a whole moment I talk to Eric Baracin I

even, I even said to say to the don't of the academy here that's the Dave,

yeah I've conversed with Enserud also the my plan is, I

I live of a life my work. I have a company in Belay and if I

get a front of the company, it's better to be a point. But, but I don't it's a moment. I want to

be focused in, in the so for this I have to have to respirer the and I

want to really, I'm doing, and to bring my family, my children here,

to be my new language and get to come to return in Brazil, to be 100%

for the girlada there, who has many talents in Brazil, though. Important to go back to your baby

and to your daughteron of the FCC to know, how is you think you think you're after this

after the berno-money two years? What do you think you see a lot of different? You'll be the same

lot of times? What do you expect of this trilogy? The same lotator, can have certain

that no, I don't be the same lot of. I'm a man very aggressive.

But, ultimately, I've learning many things, a game different, be more more tranquil,

you know, and you can can be a new little bit of a new god, the new god the world, how you see

getting him? Ah, with the second this guy, with him, with a second back into him so you think

that he got him to get him to pass. After he after he became a champion,

he came he came a great name there in Mexico, he posted a video

training with Canelo Alvers a Mexican, working many gopies in the corpse in the

whole? The box is a thing that's a thing that you're not a fulah or you're

a lot of a foot of his man, I don't go to underestimate anyone,

but the Brenno Morae no, there's nothing that me assuche, I just have to

work serious and focus in the game of the plan I have been to be

a strategist because was where he was he was the he was the victory?

Did you think the victory? With With him, I gave the cost for him

two times in the like, Tom, me finalize and never could have happened

that's I'm I'm gonna a cost to I'm a guy good of Jiu-Jitza

everyone me said that he was the poor, I was a I'm gonna I'm

don't make the guy the first the first thing was he me to come to be back back

in that I think it's the dobleleg, I know what, Borylock, or something like that. I'm brazening in the middle there, but I'm just 100% focused in blockade

all these errors. Along the lute in-sit, the centuron in-joke, that is a thing, that's a great objective, there's a part personal, because after the second the luta, he said

he talked about, you, you also, you also, you also, in an interview to my site and said that, I'm, I'm a, that you are the best partucinator

that he's paying by the house and paying by the car with all the money,

with all the people of the money and are the money, it's going to you do you do you do

more, more an element like I need to do you like that he's talking to be that all the

an animal more more. I, I'm the most, the best the same, he said,

I'm going to get to get all these patrocine and make he he will

be my best the best he can have certain to say

what I can talking. He not he not mirro just in you in those these people.

This guy is a fadroredo man, this Brandon Moreno is a saffada, I'm so have you

just to say that he's a traira and when I came here, Scott

of his he said, the manryor he said, he was a manor he went

to help the Benavid and he served to Sparrin for Benavid there against

the so this was the was the major tryeration of against the Serrudo, and for

so Serrudo is going with me to look at his face of his head to his head, to look at his this safadina, and I will not out of his, and you'll have to be able to have the same, along just as as a company of training, but in your corner, with all the experience that he's in.

Ah, car, Sir Rudd, not at all that's the guy more strategist of the UFC, and for me, it's a pleasure and a great satisfaction to have on my side, like the brother,

I'm in my son, I'm more more confidence. He's not mirro about in you, the moreno,

in the provocations and I came to attack the Valid, he said, he's

that you're not going to that's so I'm I imagine that you motivate too, yeah,

man, with a second, I'm like, no, I'm in my prosa with him,

I'm focused in my proso He can't He can't He can't even My family, not being My friend, my man,

now I'm going My friend, then the bishops is another And it's a other, and it's a You know, how's the time?

How are you been this experience to train with a guy? You've got for the past He'd He'd say he

to pay Yeah, he'd talk about you How is, how is you know, now you're doing with

him a day-a-dain Yeah, very good, man, man, really the I think the only that the only that's the only

the only the other he's a lot of the UFC, and every when I look to see the he's rhodo

he's when you go back in the commas figure out of it's a little and it and we're a party a car

friend, he's too much, and I'm like I'm feeling in the whole way

to be able to you know, my auto confidence I'm a lotto I'm a lotto so I'm 100% with

I want to go to to Brazil and to leave this this centuron with me,

this is a want to be in this the same this fog here, oh, to get into the octagon

and, fuck, we're going to get back to what you what you what you're what you

know, patience and calm, patience and calm, patience and calm. I think all the

predator has this job. All the predator is calm and patient and once

to attack the prison. You don't have patience and calm in what aspects of the

of the training and in the Luta. In all. I always. I always I always wished to start the end up to knock out of the carty-a, man, car. Now you're going to be a sniper there, just

doing the shoot right. Exactly. And how is it is the experience of merrugn, of course, everyone train at all, you know, training,

but how is you, a guy who came from Marajor, the Luta Marajua, how is it, merguling, now, training with Al-Barracin,

with the serrudo, like, p, lenders, the rest, how is this mixture of techniques, that are the styles of the lot

like those types, but they're in their own ways different, styles different, styles of attacks of forms different,

defenses different, no? I, I'm used to say, that, for Brazil, I don't I don't think,

car, it's a part my, my, I'm talking for me, I don't think,

no Jiu-Gitzo here, here, from the I, I confi- really on Jiu-Git's

the Brazil. For me, and Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil, it's like if it was the Ressley of their own. The guys train every day. The guys are good in the Mastly, you know. And in Brazil, we train,

we're respirates, always the Jiu-Gi-Sys, I think so much in Jiu-Gi-Zo. I think so much in Baleigh, especially in Belize. The guys are very good of box there.

And today, is migrating here to the States and training a art that poor I train in Brazil, the wrestling, the part of the MMA,

blockade of quacks, For me, it's new. For me, it's something that's something that's my job, I'm a blockade of today in those trains and I perceive

that's much more more resistant. Many people who are listening to this podcast not know the Lutamarajoara. Explain it condensately what is the Lutamara, what is the difference

how is this style of this style of this style of the local characterished, much of the region where you've been. The Lutamara

was a luta was a lot constructed by the vaqueers, Marajor. It's a lot of

a lot of a little a rachel you know, you enter in a faculty American here

to learn all the minimum details there of how do a kind of a person

in position without disgarde physical of who is a lot of marajor

not, it's more aggressive it's like if it's like a rachel,

but it's some techniques yes but it's a more thing more than a thing more in instinct

more force, more in instinct you think that you think it's you know of the imprevisibility that no rest

no rest in the person knows that if I would you attack so the guy has this way to defender

but he never from a manasuari you have a form of he never did he

never maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe

maybe I've I just I've I coach, Eric Abaracin, is a guy who is phenomenal of wrestling,

but there are some some of the lot of Marajua and that he's like that, wow, what, that's that the Luta Marajua

right? And then, this is a quote, this is a Rota Marajara. So, I see that there are some

that they still don't know, so this is something new, can be used in a lot. And another

guy who went, the Sehuda came receiving people of the world

in the train no the way to learn to learn to learn to the not a

non-O Korean train with a American with a barracin in a long as the time

the time after he started out after he came out of the team of his world in Belain

to be to be ready to be ready to the many the different

in those those times in those respective respective categories. I had to go to Belen

when I needed to know this world for me I never had been in

the UFC in a event on the middle of the and I did not

the time the times a time and see the I'm the

people American people people people people people people

people I'm in getting something I'm talk to you

talk for you man I'm Davidson Figuero. And today is in the middle

of these guys, John Jones, in a day this I saw I'm the Ryan

Baby had me talking about with Liotto are the guys who are

Sirrudo has a name there's impeccable in the MMA and I

I needed I needed of this guys sent you this energy

positive, to me to return again. I was in a world very caird, I'm in a comfort, I'm, I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to keep here, because it's here that I've conquered the cinturon, no. I've conquered the

no, but I'm I need to breathe things new, areas of new, you know? And how much obviously you don't train, to fact, because the guy, like, the double of your time, right? I mean,

despite of you have done a matalelion in the pen, as we saw the as he

has been a time, maybe he's a talk with him with a little bit with a

day of the day. It was very very because I went into the academy

and I batheed with him and he said to me Tigredo a picture

and I I'm I'm, I'm my son I'm the fanzass of him

I tend to put to make my cell let me I'll have a photo. Then I went to the side of him.

And he, no, I want to you know, I want to be a maceau, then I'm doing so, man,

that's cool, man. That's cool, this, bitch. I was subbed on the coast his own to believe him, man.

It was a moose to the Lue and Gutt, of those little, but it was awesome

to be nice to resisted this moment. Entramed in the van of him that he was there

back him we're both photos also in the van and it's a very sensational, a guy, people good,

people good, of his time the way he he's training, what he does in the academy for he be the

best of the time, try to absorb some other something he does he put to you he's a

man, he's a man, he's a movement certain, you know, but he's a bigot

but he's a gigante, man, he's got he's got he's going to make a piece and

so, so, so, so, he's, so, while he was in the middle and he was

he's a guy he's a very calm a man part to make out of he's a guy strategist also and I think he will sit up

in this category I think it's a different for example if he's straighter against the champion then we'll

have now the French Inganu against the Syrigane uh... imagine if John Jones he's just

he's preysed in a peso he's too the guy also a a guy encrocious the person a person

disligue He will be able to a guy intelligent I have I'm a sure he's

a lot of he will try some he will try some he's a way to be a car in the

manned but it's a lot he's not a bit heavy heavy I'm I see

the jones is a guy that he assimila very well and certainly when the guy has a

hand a man he made a man he made a man he got he got to

he's got in him no he I think all the athlete that he to go out with

Inguno, out of the first going to his own his own in the first round,

then the guy, he's the punch and he'd the end up the end up John Jonas

and he gets more a centuron? I think yeah, I think yeah, I think

I think so I think really on the guy who's going to he's got with a he's a

man, he's a lot, you know, see move he movements I believe me. If he

did a good he gets a signet and Jones for sure he'll take him.

Because the the game the game casa, understand. I think the I think the John Jones with

John Jones with Syriil Gany? With him Gany? I'm sorry that I'm talking. And you think that

the end of the end of his guy on he's always he's all the he's he said all the

name of God he said I don't know I don't know I don't know the vocational for him

but It's, in the mind of God of God. Just have patience and one of the guys are

going to the lot of their they're going to the car pay and they're I think it's the

guy has a name he did a fccored two two two contours

won't of lenders you have many there's there's there's there's

there's he's he's he's he's he's gonna go and you you're

doing the you're gonna the number that he he wants, he'll look at. The question total is numbers,

yeah, car. The guy's all the whole, training all the time, maintaining the

form, obviously, that the guy's sub- to the category, so he can't

get a madrini as all the people, he has to be to be

the person he's, and the what's the man, it's, he's, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, the guy, the guy's going to

get the to we just to talk to a name with a name that was

a name that was ventilated in the past but now now it's no matter that's not the main

in the posto-Mosca and he did it and he did it what you thought of

his category you ever ever really I really expected more

he's sure the nature that the category not he has to be he's

to be he's making it's nited that the a car perj of supplements in the physical,

gets totally abatigua. And the best category is for him, or is the other than to move to the mea-mea-mea. So, this category not for him. And he's not a great phase in the division original

of his, then? So, add, the disidratation it's more even, no? It's a point in,

because you know, because you know, you know, if he would be able to a strenal that would be

a lot of because he's a very popular and now, and now, there's no an appetite for a

lot of it other, other, not to not do any any way no, no,

no demand of the public to to see him to be to find him. Not the he, he looked

against, it would be more viable I would would would have a car in France, I'd live with him. Because he totally entered in decadence,

with this deroges. He perdeal five of the last six. You think that's the hour of he sat there and think, oh, is it worth to continue to live? No level certain, he can't compete or maybe it's the hour to

be a lot of the knockout, along just, not just per day, but knockouted in four days in years. As he's a guy who comes to box, He's got to box. It would be a lot of boxing, not he'd make a box.

I don't know. I think he's very new to think in a percentage but there's a lot to playmire in the MMA even, too?

No MMA. But not in Pes-Mosca. Yeah, no Pes-Mosca not for him. Yeah, it's, it's, it's been clear

the record to the record of him. Oh, my caradad, poor, thank you, I'd like, I'd like,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd say, other fuzererererer, and other fuzererer, and all, I'm going to go I'm going to

thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. After the pap with Davidson, we're going to with Rodolf Vieira

that's a lot of line, we're going to with a lot of darkestine marked by the front against the battle of Brazilian on UFC.

How are you are the things for there, my friend? Welcome to podcast. It's all all great. It's all right.

It's all my fallacy of my fallacy of Vos Nia is all That's what important, how is it, how is the expectation for this fight with a group

man, a guy experienced in the man, a guy that has a, a baggage in the jujitsu also, a guy that's a guy who has a

experience in the jujitsu, how you think that's this this is a fight against he and the F.C.

Ah, car, it will be a great test to me, it's a great experience

to be able to be to be able to you're a guy, like you're very good Jijitso,

very good to cocaation, it's a bight of a I'm very anxious to to get on the day 22 and I'm able to

do you do this. You're coming to victory about the Dussing I don't even me atrev to say to talk about the

time. The President, he's coming to a victory about the decision about the San Alvin, you know,

giving a back to after the time you know, we know, we know, we know, we're not in

the UFC, because he's all the time, he's trying a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of

much that you, for example, is a guy that has a story in Jiu-Jitsu. You train, wrestling, you train, the troughation,

how you think what you guys the confrote of your confrots against the time? It's a very good,

because, like, despite he's jiu-s, he's not but I think my Jiu-Sit-S should be

better. Logic-that I know that M.A. I could perceive this in my last year,

I've been being finished in a limit of the Exhaustum absurd. But I still think in my Jiu-Jitzsche, never I never

I'll never go to, like, even passed by my head to just go to my J-Git-Ted and continue thinking that where I have more chance to

to get his, I don't get here, I'm not, I'm confident to get there and knockoutia. Of course I

think that can also that can't happen, but what I think I really is my Jiu-T and so, and so, man,

quite what I said about the MMA, it's a thing I train all, I'm trying to be ready to all, I'm trying to

all right, but my car, chef, always will be used to but I'm to be confident

with all areas. I interview he said, he said, exactly that he has jiu-gis-

that he confin-no- he confin-n- he-cuh- and that he can't be- trying to

do-ch-ch- -ch-ch-ch- -ch-ch-ch-ch- -ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- we, of his no panno, it's

very, much more condecorated than he, but I think that that the derota for Ernst

ended up an order, in a lot of you was you was going to but it was going to

get a door, giving the people to people, that's that's not you're

not, you know, man, there, I'm not, I'm, I know my potential,

I see, I see, I know the level of my Jizzz, and so, I don't

me important with what the people say they're talking, if they say that I have the the best jiu-jitzo of the UFC, if they're they're the worst Jiu-Jit, or the

my, they're going to my Jiu-Git's all, for me, for me, for me no importance. I know the potential of my Jiu-Gitio. I know that I need to make a lot, adapt to a lot

and it's that, I've made a job, you know, of formidina and every more I'm more, I'm more confident in all the areas, but moment of some,

I will let's I'll think to believe to what he brought to take

to the what I did the life that I'm doing the way to make you my Jiu-Git.

I think my difference for him is this I compete much more in Jiu-Git than he

has, he's he's been to Jiu-T he's, he's, he's started

the MMA much new, but I think that I think I think I see

as a little advantage to my favor. MMA, Lodge, but not only only only all the guys

I've done until I think I'm going to still, I think all of the experience, much more experience than I,

many more a maraud, I just went to a professional, you know, after three years I just happened happened,

so things happened were very very rapid and I'm trying to get to get to the prejudice

to look to be to be and to be comfortable in I think, I think will have more experience of an

adversary in the M.A. If, for a case, you'll call on a bushisto, then you'll have more experience of MMA than the adversary. Oh, it's true. I don't want,

no, I've just been very much for the Jiu-Sit. I've been to be in M.A. also, he's not a lot more than that he's a lot. He's not, he's

being a lot of two to zero, so? Oh, it's rebeating, I don't have a good that he would have been a success.

Thank you. And in the M.A, then, the sameersers who enter thinking that the your jiu-s don't like the other

these things they're going to pay a price of for this not? Probably probably

yes probably so it's good it's good that they enter with confidence

I would I would be able to I would be more more if the guy would

be able to me and if I'm a man I'm saying oh I'm wait

wait there I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a car

so I'm a lot good in Jijits in past I have a

I'm a lot finalization in my cartel and the guy is saying that's saying that's saying that's saying

that's probably it's weird but it's a may be strange but then if the guy says oh man

this guy is this guy is armando a arapuka for me in the end of the last

what was what was the great lesson that had been in front hernandez

to have quite finalized but after suffered the a derota

of the time what it was. I, I took the lessons that I took know,

my career was going very much doing much something but I was thinking

to get in getting, I was getting this lot of this and I was I said

in other interviews and it was good it was good for car that

that was it made a great great I'm sure that other

can come but I believe that not for the same reason that was that was that she made a new lot of

a new lot me made to make sure to make sure it was good it was good it was been been on

the initial of my career yeah that was my was my seven eight

a lot was seven zero was going to eight and it was good was good

had taken that that porrardin there's good, that's good, you know, who's, who can't admit this. What you said that you moved, was what, question of training? To move to home, to, move the mentality? Yeah, mentality,

the manner that I was training. Like, I don't have a trainer of striking here. I'm, like, I'm, like, three years without a trainer of strike, training my impet so-saint, practically.

And, like, I didn't have conditions to continue to get to stay, you, you know? But now, I'm with a coach, man,

Santana, making a support here, fantastic, is mounting all the chronogram of my training, with intensity, with the, with all the,

with all the, with, with all the, and it, there was, in the last the last he,

he, he, he, he, long, so, me passed, the train

for video, and I had, and I could see a difference very good in my

job, in my confidence. And, So he's here with me now, every days, is a very

better, I'm feeling that I'm evolving much more more rapidly, I'm working with a base much more solid,

and the work psychological that I have done with Lel, the Lel Rabid, I think these were those were

those movements that I have been a guy that I always was a really to train,

Nelb? I mean, I mean, I mean, you know, I mean, it's, I mean,

can't how to get all I conquisted in Jiu-Git and training a little, but that in M.M.A. is more difficult.

You need to have various guys there there's just one guy just. And I just had the Jules here,

but he's more of the Jiu-Gitz. Not very of the trocaation, I was feeling a

much fault and was part that I needed more more to practice, more to

have been more to practice to be my name I'm doing this. Manor, and I've

I've been to train with Jukau, with you try to train with the Jukon, with the brothers Dougli and Diego Lima, who are doing part of your camp

exactly, probably been told you're in this Lut. Yeah, so, the Jukon, poor, Jukon,

I've been, I've been, maybe, about him, yeah, a guy that's a guy who, I love,

the guy, we've done much in the past, and every when he came to Orlando, a we, we,

we've, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, to his house of him

some guy I confinue much, yeah, he's in my corner, in my second the Lutta

of the M.A. And then I don't have anyone to me help, you know, I was going

very, because there had other athletes, and I said, I'm going, I'm going to

get in contact with him, he'd be able to me help in my corner, he, boy,

he'd be back, he's, he's, he's, he's, I'm there just a

one a week. It was just not you'd get to get more. But it was very good, car, train

with him, with Douglas, the Diego are two guys, like, I'm doing other people, like to have

people who I feel like, people who me to be a person who have a energy who, you know, he's a friend everybody,

that's the team of the TEC, care, get to him he's a person so differentixto so, so it's fantastic.

but this this way, I'm trying direct at this time, I'm trying very training good here,

there's a good, me helping with a job for a lot of wrestling so I'm I'm very here

and it was a man to, for me to complete to but, but to rest I don't

think I'm feel like a lot of a train to me peg in the Jiucius to me

give a it's difficult to it's No, no, it's difficult That's easy Just to get a guy that's

a lot of a lot of course with a job new jiu-git with a job atalised but it's different for you look

with the guys of the MMA it's a it's a resistance different, the guys don't you know,

I'm a lot, I'm a type of kind of kind of a lot of the type of I mean,

I like to, you know, you know, to, you know, not able to, not able to do you do things in the car, to be finalized, I'd like to pass

this difficulty. Not always, not. In train, no, but I'm going to do a week or not. No, luta not. Lutta not. Lutton, no, in training. But here, I'm well, I'm very, I'm very good. I remember that I saw a post-training that you

did in the Fuson Excel, that was, po, the photo to have to be termed to carry it, it demorraver, because, boy, it was you, Liotto, Glover, Poat-T, it. It was, It's a guy of elite, the elite,

of the MMA, who now is the team, that's the other know, because the group, I'm doing, train with Pauau-

then, so, these guys, I don't know how time you got to train with them, if it was just

a day, if it was a day, unfortunately, it was just a day, that I'd have been to have been

to have been to be able to know, independent if I could say if I would know that I don't make

much difference because train is training, it's training, a lute is lute I don't

I'd just to have this opportunity to train with with guys that's that's

a little with a car that's but it's but it was this this coincidence of the

we're trying he came to help the yototot in the brother the guy I think

ten days are big but I just I just can't I just can't train with him

now the your copoer of I'm imagining that's the main, I'm the main, this card, not this camp,

attendes by the name of the name of the name of my wife's a boy. He's a guy he's a man who started to train here now,

he'd just have a little of Jijitz, but I think he is a facha branka, but my man, a man, a man,

a man, there's an photo, not to have to be the how great he can't even, he's a

man than you he's much more than you, you're a mid-alture and 140 here, Yeah, I

I have, P, 45, 1m. 80, 181. He, he's like a Vicki really,

he's like in he's not trying to look to look to look at him, he's looking for him that he

putt, I'm gonna put a tracadole, I'm gonna I'm gonna be in a chat like, oh,

what is this road he was this guy was what, he's, he's like, me, pakeer and

don't just, but yeah, car, a guy It's different. I never seen a guy so,

I don't remember to have a person, so I've been a little to him, man, it's a little

like, but he's a man, but he's very tranquill, I think he's, like he's, like,

40% of the force of total, you know, but he not my trainer, my, my,

my, my, my, friend, not, no, sparring, he,

he, he, he, he, you know, he's, you post on Instagram,

he's, guard-cochast, he, He trea more to to use a technique in the day

case he needs to do you know he will be in my own in the other

something? He's he's a security he's security yeah here

not see in Orlando but he said he said he he's a little he's

professional he's he's new, he's he said he said he said

he says he probably he's he says he said yeah I'm

there's a problem that you will have to have to be to get to get to be a weight of the pressure,

to be able to naturally, naturally, right, though, very strong, I think if he maintain

training legal, directly, with constance, he will be, there's a time,

yeah. Talking of the FCC of the , the British, those people,

those, those Brabent are being in the person, there, there, you,

the potan, the bo- brachin- the blenado, the the, the guy that's

getting strong in this category and it's become more inevitable a confront between Brazilians, like you and the Tourman now and the Poitam and the Brindado, is different?

You who's who confronted a Brazilian the entire entire in Jiu-Jitsu, it's impossible you do a career in Jiu-Sit, you have to confront a Brazilian,

but in the MMA, in the UFC, is different, you have to confront a a Brazilian? Ah, it's a little, it's a little,

it's, it's not, because the guy just, like, it's like, the career of his career

and the other than with the guy don't know, like to like Jujit with a

progeneer, for me, I was normal, I'd be with a man, had been with a lot,

but I'm M.MA, for me, my second a lot, I did with a Brazilian who was

the Fagner, no, Chototot, and then just I got these guys of Fux the American,

the German, the German, so my, the, my, the, the,

the, the, was, was very varied. But, we have to encarer this. We have to

not. I'm car, I'm not. I'm caro like I'm like any one. But it's

a little in the fund, it's a little bit wrong, you're not, you're looking to the

Brazilian. But as you said, there's a my category to be many, there many

many Brazheers good, making a great job, and there's eventually, eventually

we will be, will be, will be, to be, tomorrow so it's more than

it's a top 15, but it's a one that I prefer to look with the guys of

the car of you know. You know, I don't have an opportunity to do a lot of Chototot

you, you know, you don't have a chance to do a new in New New

in Brazil, even more the real, even more the house, it's, it will be

a event to new here, no, on the year, would be special. There would

be a time to do do a camp to do a camp long until the day of May it's a

idea that you do you do this even more if you're more than you know? With a

public, with a public, with a lot to a real, so I'd have a I'd just

I'd know, I'd have been a opportunity to me would be incredible

and with certainly if I will I'll talk to my company, I'm going to be going to be in my

business. It's more than the date that I want to be my second-lutting. GMMA. I want to be more active this year. Since when I

started, I had always two-luts, two-lots. So this year, I want to be to be able to have to

this corrent there to a year. And how is the United, you're in a lot of

time, you're trying, how is the United compared with the life you had here,

that I remember that your career Jiu-Jit, you just were in the elite of sport, but you did that

same routine to get the campo-grand to Mewer to train to the J.F. Team. It was a

little more of a real-a-day- than I imagine the life in America, yeah? So, the problem

there, that there didn't have time to get to yeah, I was, I had,

I was going and and going, and I was, two hours and three hours.

just of tragetta. I'd trainava two hours because it would have the train more and then

he'd get a train lottado and then it was very disgastant so it was very me fortalece

me me did much more more more more of money made much in my career

that this was one of that's one of that I think me forged I think me probably maybe the

guy could maybe could be maybe a thing that I, but nobody would, like, I'd, like, I'd, like,

I'd , like, I'd front of, the project that I did, but here, but I'm a routine

is very, a real real, I'm still, I'm not, I'm a lot, I'm aft of the academy, I'm able to

get to be there, I'm, there, no, there was complicated. Like, I'd, like, I'd be in Campo Grand,

and, then, and, then, then, before, say, out, out, out,

I'd try and Jiu-Jitz. Then at night, even in a camp great, so you're going to get a train of sometimes

three kilometers, you know, it's a half hour for you, to percorre three kilometers in my neighborhood.

Then, por, living there, today, it would be very difficult, like, for I,

for I be a athlete. I don't like to just, I don't be just

on a little there, not. Here, I can't, I can't do all the I'll say.

There's much this conception in the world of the lot of the world of the root of the

life does it make cascud, so in sometimes a guy that's a class

a class media in California but train in the jiugis there, no,

the same brio, yeah, of the sport that has a man of a camp

grand, and have to get a merit so I think it if you had been

if you had grown in a Florida where you a more than you would you, if you

would have you not had been to, maybe, or perhaps not technically, the same, the same, the same way. It's difficult to say, it's difficult to say, but, no, but, it's still

really, it's fortalece much, your mind, that's the principal, is that you need, that you need to be more, and this, I had,

to pass for all this, and when I'd of car, was, like, two hours of car, like, engraftamment, I preferrere to train to leave, like, one hour, a hour of 20. But with

sure, car, all the difficulty that you pass, you fortalless, right? No, there's no way. It's difficult,

a guy, to put the two guys training the same thing, but one more a part of the academy, and other

a hour, like, the certain, so, so, all, everyone will say, that's,

what will have more chance is the one that's the train, du, but he's hard,

but he's difficult. I still I still post to the guy who encar that that that's a war there to

get to get to get back to go back I think I'm going to see he will be he will be with much

more want to get more more than to get to get to get to know I'm just for you know that

roll this lot of this LUTA in May that would be looking to see there's chance in

Chototano here it would be good to be again to after after after

this pandemic. There's a FC here, have you have you're going and you're grottable, Vierra,

not par, not par, it would be a person who Jiu-Gitso, accompanied, yeah, I'm doing it,

and it's been very much to see in the UFC in New January, too, never, never,

it, for me, it would be a honor, car, I'm looking in my country,

my city, Natal, have much to be the real, and there would be a present to me,

but I'm more certain that I'm to be able to do that. If if it's all right, if it's all right in roll it even, I think difficult the company not

me put in this card there. Manio, Rodo, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's very much. Because, back. There's a little, there. There's a good. Thank you. A great. Thank you. Thank you. And it's for here. Another edition of podcast, Trocason,

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