MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | É campeão! Alexandre Pantoja fala da vitória na garra e futuro no UFC

Episode Date: July 15, 2023

Alexandre Pantoja é o mais novo brasileiro a deter um cinturão do UFC, e a vitória veio na base da emoção diante de Brandon Moreno em Las Vegas, EUA. O peso-mosca volta ao Trocação Franca e fala do triunfo, a festa na cidade natal, Arraial do Cabo, o desejo de defender o título até o final do ano, quem deveria ser seu próximo desafiante, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alexandre Pantoja is the new UFC flyweight champion — and he pulled it off in incredible fashion after a five-round war with Brandon Moreno. Now, the UFC titleholder returns to Trocação Franca to discuss his victory and what it means for his legacy, who should be next for his title, and much more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guineering! Cruz. Hello, my friend of Lutta, the 9thesem episode of podcast Trocaation Franca, A Suhra,

A's over Spheran, I'm gonna be Mr. Kruis, correspondent of the site American on M.M.

Fahle in Brazil, and I'm gonna this week, of the company of Pantos. Yes,

yet did podcast this time, but there's a champion of FC, have a edition of

Fraca, thank you to come back the time, you know, I'm used the word, the

champion of the world, the world, we, let's talk with you. It's better

when you know when you know, when you're called to be a first of the first of the

I'm always I'm always I'm not going to be going to talk about if I'm going to be

a bit of this sturon there, now, after this lot, it was a

battle, it was a question, the next a lot I will be more more

relaxed, and I will be able to execute a better, the techniques and my

performance. A we've talked in the expectation of to be in front the Moreno or Davidson by the centuron

a much time it was to have been a lot of but had been a legion in the legion of there was a lot of the lot of

the lot of in some of the scenarios that you imagine about you imagine this this war

that was to end up the war sangrented those two are ported and in final you

don't have idea if the would be the ones you were thinking in some of the

things you had been In some of them, you were so suffered, so in any I think I could imagine a lot this. I even thought with my husband, that, like, about three semans

before the lute, and I don't say this to her at the time, in the hour, I said with her, I had been pretty the lot, and I remember that in the proper dream, I thought

that I was living a penabella, so, I was, I was kind of, but, but, man, when the the, the judge

says, fight, there, I go, and I, or, I look, the point that I trained in that moment there, I trained very, I trained very, like you said,

many many, like you have to pass, lesone in the joel, was my offer to the luteau. Not put to look, I've to me operas. I'll work with Alex Peres. So I train me much

for Alex Peres, after my recuperation. I'm going to Alex Peres. I'm going to be to be a reserve at the Lutton, the Morn. So I continue

training very, and more because it was in Rue-Jeneer, so I trained much. And then, after the lute of Davis and the Moreno, I was the

next, I continued and I'm trying and I'm I'm sure in this lot of the very well

very well I'm very very well I'm doing and I'm going on the other side and then I'm working

with the academy total, I'm going to cross in my academy I've seen more than that carina

there like I'm going to go ahead I'm going to go desks he's a first round I was going to

me to be getting me disvenciled and I lutee, like if I was luteu, like I was living in my city, no Tupir, in Rado Cabo,

I looked like I looked like I was aniguanian I, I left quite that kind of, that kind of that's

that kind of that we were a thing, we talked to the luteau to control this agressivity, but I

I really so I'd so I looked so to get to get over that I wanted to I'm

really, but I think that this me He was in the course of the loop

I'm quite a foothed I don't I'm a movement good, I just

could batte, batte batte and get and get a moran

he showed a evolution gigantex there there so in the

part in the solo I'm many times to finalize he

and he saw all all the many tentations of

all the time I made the castes the third

round and he can to say, too, and then he's got a catatum,

he's he's back the last after the last time, he's always, he's always the total merit

of all the he did, and, man, so I'm just thank you for this war,

for this battle of this cletet of five rounds, I think, all the fans were

contemplated with this lot, before the last of the fight, I said, that this

would be the night, and so it's he's he did, and, and,

like, a film of Rocky I encountered with him in a hospital each one in a maca

I'm a I'm a by a he did he probably me parabenize it was better than

than I'm better than you was better you're gonna with a carche in the can't be there

but some some some a less a lot of you have a

way the the body the the world the the only the

I'm the I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm a and a half, brother. Traininging much. As I said, I came in the operation, six months

of physiotherapy, very intense. I've been a lot of the left a lot of Alex Perez, where I was very well trained to to show me.

I continued training. So it was a year and a minute, really, very, very, very, much, very,

so when I get this centuron, I'm a lot, I relax, and , por, when you said, you said,

this thing of, the time, I had I was sure, I was getting, until the last round

there, at the When I understand, when it was the fourth round, in my vision, in my vision of my vision of my trainers,

it was a one. Then we went to see that was in the reality was two a two in that's until that moment. But in the

our imagination was three to one and then I go to this fifth round kind of controlling the but when

the Moreno starts to me bathe and the the arena total was the Mexican everyone was everybody

getting motivated I don't I can't make this so I can show that I

want to show that I And this me I give a gas where I go to I'm going to come to finalize

the merit of he's he's got to get up but then the jury me give that's a

note there I think it was even a I came in the I was I was when the when the

when the I thought I thought I've been many and practically all these these

battles parellas that I did I were to were to my other

I thought that I thought that I had been but did

do what and when, I thought I don't I don't think that's a question but I'm

God, God, it's a providence there, care, gave a victory

for me. And I disabbed in the chown really, it was a lot of to get to

the time, you know, it was a really to this moment to happen to be this

God, I don't let's escape, this centuron came to Brazil more one one

once a much, you've you've you've seen the other, of the other,

I don't. I'm I'm going to this moment there's for what for the moment

how you how you you're going to you're you're going to you want to what you want to

what you're I don't see I don't I don't see I don't I'm

I'm got to get rid of and I'm getting this moment of I'm at this thing

I'm still in this thing in my case of It was a moment very special it was a moment I'm going to make it

before I'm in before to see and can't consider this moment even in my head without a view from a view of

it's very good good sometimes when when I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm never you're

in the fifth round you was trying that was three a one in the fact was it was two

a two and in the in the end the end of the jury gave a victory for Moreno

the other two two still were this nervousism extra he had,

Bruce Buffer to announce that a was a victory this is a yeah, this nevosis extra.

You'd give a lesson of, I don't even if I think it's four to zero for me,

I don't can't enter in the Qto round, more devacar because

some judge might be going to something and I end up the

lot of not you're to end up to end to to end to make to get to get to

and more or minus there because you never know what you've never saw that the guy is seeing a yeah, thanks a God, I have a parropin

on my side and he said he said much about this quarter, this fifth round. He said that he was not he was a lot

under me and he was being a friend of the fourth and I would be impercedible because I never came in a

quarter in a fifth round and in the vision of him would be the roundes more important so we

we trained on people, generally I trained with someone, and and do these two rounds. So I really was really was

really was really to show that I wanted to make a little more than I'm not sure that my lot more to round,

I'm going to round, I'm going to be so I'm going to be a lot, this lot in Syria was a lot really emotional

and I'm a lot a time a time and it's a moment of the lot, in a moment that she

starts, and I say, when I saw when I was moving, I I just put a tractor in

not to make a doubt, the merit total of his that's able to get a lot, but in the moment of the lute, I knew that he

was talking much more with the soks of his, but I said he could be me to talk three times that one

that one that I was doing, he was playing, that I was really hard, but I saw more more more than he was,

I'm sure, in this moment. And, car, really, the UFC is complicated this situation,

really, really not to let me be to the judge. I was talking with the parompa,

maybe if this guy to do that a three a two, it would be a little bit

a lot of a lot of a lot, it shows, that this sport has much evolve

even in the question of arbitrage, in the question of the questions atllet

the guy to do the fifth round for Moraena, is of an absurd, total. If you have a opportunity of your next your next

a lot, to go in Las Vegas and talk, think in, and solicit to the military, you can't ask the guy

not be the the guy not not be a judge, and the kind of the other person, if she was in

Vegas? I think it can't be a me, this. Maybe if Barrumpa he does,

but I'm a loter, I'm, I, I, I, I, the,

the job, is the your objective is that didn't Exactly. No, exactly. But,

but, I'm a guy very bad on the chagel. I don't go to point out of people,

everyone does your job, you know? I know, I see that in a certain moment, maybe I

would have made a view this judge, but like I'm you said, but the other two

judges did a round to him, and it's a group about we, we,

we're from, we're talking, other people were to talk to the round that they were much

more than the round that they did to the third round, where in the vision of many people, was more parol, but I think it was this round that I pegged the cost of his

course of his course of his, during a time, than the fourth round. The fourth round, I really, I had quite total certainty that I had that went that round. And the guys were done for him. So, you see that, and, car, it, not today, we, we're, we're, we're going to

accompany the MMA a much time, we've seen, we've seen, scoundolos, can say, many, many people abismada with certain, certain decisions of the juices,

I'm, there's a lot of a deal of a new thing to talk, a new things all that are very

in-alta, but, but, I'm really to ask you a really to ask you a little to put

to be a lot of I'm going to try and I'm trying to get a fairies to get to

get a after this career, the first defense centurral, you think that's that

this year even, like to final of the end, or provable, the

first of the year of the year. I think, although we're in the middle of year,

there's many years there's five months until the final of the year, botta there

I'm going to get a a month sabbatic and I super necessary for all I've been

doing, I'm doing I'm with a boca stored, I'm with afta I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm feeling all, I don't

I don't no any single but the body is very can't even I see

it was a stress very great, a pressure really a real of the carbe, you know,

yeah, go to the way to the play, do a lot of the I don't care, I don't want some of the

Brazil, I go in San Paulo, in the school, but really I want to get in the private,

I'm going to my guard sol and let my few years playing ball and really

to get a real, see a beautiful there, is what I I'm what I'm

what I'm but I But what I think is to be to do to do in December. Maria, Maria. I've seen a video of J. Rajal of the Cab, the person put on a pelon in a a place. You probably, if you saw, you know,

where it's there. The guy, po, I'm expecting the announcement, the announcement of official of Bruce Buffet. How did it was how you saw these images? Oh, man. It was great. I'd rather than I'd rather than,

I'd say the name of my city. This is very important to me. I always cite the name of the city, but really in the order of the signoron there was just

it was just it was just like the I think the I think the 23 years all these years

was all right everything everything I did that I'm and unfortunately I don't say the name

of my city but he could say I saw some every time every time every time

every every time I was I'm gonna I'm gonna fendoron CCC because I

will do know the braus of all the the world, everyone, everybody doesn't

get a photo with this central, because in the city you know a city you know, a city

very little a city in 20 minutes you can you run the city all and then, I always

was very motivated for them, much before to get to get to the U.S. the United,

the people were that I had total potential to get a potential to get a

potential to get a thing, it's like it's like really, I want to thank you

of them that was present in the moment of the lot, he was very present

in that kind where I was just was a lot of I'm very so I'm really put up and I'm

imagine that there's a kind of reception special there? I imagine no man I'm

I'm I want there, there were some the first the first people have

let's say well let's do let's let's you're manned I'm

a lot but now I'm but now I want I want car bombbe

a tree electric fos I want I think it's much more than to be for me,

I think it's for the city I think it's a great effect, I want to that many people take this

as an example I never never had a good, my barro in the rail of the cab is a barrow

of the my mom is a house my mom, it's a house we never had never had

a lot we never never had a lot of so the people know my story in in the hall

of the I was a so that for I never to car, I went to I went to go to

I've been to the United I never I've seen in the car so I'm always went to everybody

know me know I'm a man who's a man who because of so really I want to retribue this,

if you're car of a boboberer fogos just don't want a stato man who stata is

to be the other the pombo cagano no I say if if you if I would

if I'd would be to have a something with my name, where other children can train and other kids can

exorfluy. I think it would be more more well more than a bit more a statue, yeah, I've seen some

videos of the children of social, that there's a project there's a project in a place, something like

yeah, unfortunately, car, try the politics in the city, it's a project very

really, really, a project that even was a project that I had been what I

had been a commis, we put a tatami in all the schools municipal, what is a great

advance, where these kids had capoeira, moit, jiu-tah, jujitsu, what is a great advance, but, unfortunately, it's been in the government past, I don't know how it can't really be able to, I really focused my attention

for this moment, and I hope very to giveovir to even to Rheald-O-Cab, not just with my lute, not just levying the name of the city, but also, of a way, to have some project, or some other something associated, that

we know. We know how politics works, you know, You're now, you're going to like a champion with this centuron, put the time

with the camera around, I think now maybe there's a more want to the political to reactivize the project. Tomar,

him, a we know, we know, it's a moment of festes, the commemoration of the lot, but

there's people, especially the adversaries, projecting, who are who have been the next chance,

you said, as you said to the question, like, I mean, to infectal the more than, but not

because you could be that if you repeated this discourse, after the other than the what you

think you may have the chance is the brand of Royval, that was a lot

in the lot of the lot of the general what you think you should be that would be

that's this possible. I think the more sense is he they're

they're not, you're the two are the next, I'm the prox

I'm the two fresh to do you to get the two to say in the porada so the

well enter in this part answer I think is the more

sensato, is the more just with the most of the world I'm the way, the category

was inperated for a very time, and I was one of the car, I'm in the door,

waiting this time. So, I think, it would be legal the category to do a little,

the more, I think, for him, it's a little other little bit of

a little a lot of three rounds. Even, even the Davidson, he said, he said,

I don't really, the devil, really, really, really, a a local,

it's a novel that's an manel cap for him, that's a lot of a lot of

really great he said, no, but the manel cap is not not a little bit

I'm when I'm a cop I'm never in rankiated was, then who

can't do that the question, no, no problem, the manelope is a mutator duly

but then the davisson says he says he's going to go to

go to go I'm until there I'm still I'm started to

he did after after I And then, after I I got a lot, he'll say, No, no, I can't decently for a flyweight,

I'm with a lot. You know, I like him, it's a manino good, you know, a guy who's a guy who's out of a lotator

very dominant, during a much time in the category. No, my view, he's been very with the psychological of him,

uh, made the choices that were not, not were, not were not were not certain,

but, but, a man, poor, a, por, he's, he's really confused in this situation

total. And I think basically this, I think, yeah that the guys want to go to go to pass in a porrada,

me give a little to get a little a little bit. And that's a time able, you know, bot this little bit to

make this next to do that next to do and then you're going to do in December, January, there.

If, if you if you would be able to be a place, to say you're a champion,

but the UFC, as a few when you put, they, they're they're going

to put a revenge of Valentina Chavicham with Alex Agrazzo in a lotta principal of Fight Night, so who can't maybe messes with you or the day 4 of November

I'm gonna be able to see I'm gonna pay pervue I'm gonna be a good well, you know, well, you know, maybe in November?

Day 4 of November So, maybe if I'd rollas some if you'd rollas some ground, but who's, who say I'm gonna

say I'm gonna you're gonna I'm a functionary I'm, I'm I'm gonna much of to look for UFC, man.

For the treatment that they don't just for the time now, but the moment now, but the moment

that's always a lot of the United, I have my green card and I'm recognized internationally and here we get,

we're, like, abilities special, we get a a vista special, so all this thanks to the UFC, I have been

I have to pay my accounts, all across the FC, so the UFC. So, the FC

I'll see I'm a I'm a fuller I'm a lot I'm very I'm really not so the lot of the

lot of the people who are very people who are very people who are the first sport to go back the guy

did the he did the whole people could do you do you know I think the lot of the FC

not may have not necessarily not in the platoon but it's what I say that if I if I had this chance to really

get a real person a thing that really Ferem could move to Moodernero, I gained a year but it's long to be that

thing I saw that I got a lot I said oh man he who's never my father I'm not not even not even

yeah and never yeah and say it we're saying we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get many

but he says much do what can't but not not much of what we pay so we can't we have a tax of the government

that's a tax much a tax much a tax much there's a percentage of Menners We have a percentage in the academia. So,

car, not it's been so, you know, there's a point to be on the whole,

you know, I'm, obviously that I want to buy a house really, I'm a child,

my car, I'm a American Bolle Gigante, I don't see the hour of it's a time,

but I'm man, foot on the man, but I'm, but I'm talking, I,

I don't, I'm just I'm gonna go, now, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go,

now that's, you're gonna get a money, you will look to get a situation,

very happy with with everything what's going to be a, with, how I say,

with the notoriety that I have gained through this sign-and- people are identifying with my story,

many people could know more, the UFC Fight Pass Brazil, passed a much about

my story, about my life, the people could be me know me

and I think this signuron me made this story in even more,

this story in evidence. So, So I'm just to thank you. I said before that not was the centuron who would have me form a champion, because I just had me sentia, not for because of the case, I gained a lot or

not, but where I came, for having my family here, for my children being created, having opportunity, you know? So, yeah, the UFC, San Paulo no PEPVille, so it's so interesting. So, who can't, if you're going to go to the same card, there, of John Jones, and Miotit, which is more than, I think it's more than,

the final of November, but it's New York, and it's a big, it. The World Coomack Grego, right? It's also. But then you have to tell when he will decide to look at

yeah, and then the novel like, that's a cool, Conan, yeah, it's really

that he really, he's really a little bit of a potential gigantesque but you see that

sometimes the money sobe the guy really really the person, I think he

in a moment there, he can maybe he might think this is a

real estate is a realdeer, this is a thing, it's a kind of a bobo of the court really,

like the although, I think he took this paper now, I think he has a family little,

he construed a story a little, and, and it's even a thing that I'm going to people are

people are more, I'm position more in the internet, that I, know, divulue more on

Instagram, and, and, man, I'm a always was a very very good

I, you know, so, so, and this me maintain very with my way to

my values being very being very very tranquil and as well he's just he's been in this moment

that he has been to be he has been to a looker I'm trying I'm trying to I think I think it's

so I think he's been a man he has he's been a man who I'm a guy that I'm a great a man

I'm a bad the vision of this and it's it's a chate he's trying to get a bit of the

other. I think the impression that's to pass to me, he, he gained

much the money, he could not do not for the life of the car, he came

the world, he lived the money, he lived, no, no, he didn't

pay a money, and he got a money, he got, he got, he could

be a money, so he could be not, but he'd get to this, this dilemma, he does

what he he wants, or if he he will and will enjoy the life after he he can't

take a decision and he can get uproropping the two with the back again but he but he

he does he does money he does I mean this we know that we're these idiotice

that he is in cohequin and down or he are being or is doing a soco in a

mascot here this this of some he's some of some he's

And, unfortunately, he, he doesn't this a grana, I think, if he hadot

a new a new style more, he's a lot he's he's not a lot of, man.

So, you know, the guys that are there, are there, are not wanting for a something,

you know, so you know, a mentor that, you know, he's not any any of

any of the whole, respect much the kind of kind of, you know, there's

no, no, look, no look, no- look, he's, he's,

he said, like you said, I said it was out of the merder and it's just other fighters think it's like so people are

that's a palaçade is what has been this trotalk medilc he's even he's actually he's just talking and when he

impure in respect but today but today without training and living I think he's just

I think he I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure that I'm a way that you're not totally the opposite of the type

of people who who's always I'm going to be my children I hope that I'm very good old old of his father I'm going to

my spouse that one of the most of the life is to be a vore I think that's my goal now,

see the the children of my children I have much this desire to be able to get to care of my

kids, to be able to continue because I really I'm a person I'm I'm a

person a person I'm a My children My children, so I can I can't go to lunch,

I'm a guy very privileged to cut to with these moments. Many fathers don't have this moment with a child,

to be eating football, to be doing football, to accompany the the child. I'm very privileged and I'm very able to carry

the new net on the collar, bring with him, to play with the life. Maneer, Camara, thank you

so much for your time. Pardince for this conquest, POTI. You're not the time. It's a lot

better. It's more. It's, you know, you know, you know, the job was hard,

no, you know, for the whole, you know, for the time, you know, and you

know, I'm doing the first, I'm doing it very much, it's worth, man, I'm really,

you know, you've been the whole, you know, the correary that's all, you know, the career and I was, you know,

a new year, yeah, A we're going to this one this is the thanks to make sure,

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