MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Especial UFC 279: Johnny Walker, Norma Dumont e Jailton Malhadinho

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

O UFC 279 agita Las Vegas neste sábado e o Trocação Franca conversa com as estrelas brasileiras do card. Johnny Walker abre o jogo sobre saúde mental e como o uso de CBD o prejudicou ao longo dos últimos anos. Norma Dumont, uma das poucas pesos-pesa do UFC, sonha desafiar Amanda Nunes pelo título. Jailton Malhadinho, o Khabib brasileiro, define categoria onde fará carreira no evento. O podcast conversa ainda com Ricardo Prasel, que disputa o título dos pesados do KSW. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC 279 is around the corner in Las Vegas and Trocação Franca chats with the Brazilian stars of the card. Johnny Walker opens up on mental health and how the use of CBD oil hurt him for three years. Norma Dumont, one of the rare female featherweights in the UFC, hopes to challenge Amanda Nunes for the title. Jailton Almeida makes a decision on which weight class he’ll compete at in the UFC. The podcast also welcomes Ricardo Prasel, who battles for the KSW heavyweight belt Saturday. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca. And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil. Guillermo! Hello, hello,

Amigo, fan of Luta. Well, welcome to 54th episode of the podcast, Trocazao, a show of MMA, this immense, Podofsphere. I'm Gwilermy Cruz,

correspondent of the site American on M.M.A. Faireernerner and I'm a week of Dr. Walker, Pesommeal-Peser, that's a little pescée, that's a while in Las Vegas. The podcast this week

has even in interviews with Norma Dormone, Jail Tomaladino, who also lute on W.C. 279 and Ricardo Prasel, who disputed the Cintral on Pesado

also on the same day in Poland. And we go direct to the first interview the day, which is with the proper John Walker, in an interview

very abetted about about the other about the other about the about a lot

important for him for him in the office how is that this the rest of the final of the time

the last the time back to say on the podcast again again yeah, thank you

thank you the opportunity to get to the program my own my job and I'm very to a caram. PEO's

great. I've been to my camp in the Thailand three months after I'm really a lottah and I went

to go to two months and a mid-of-a-mage but a month in Thailand very extra much Jiu-Jitsu

I've got my box I've worked very box in the zone of discomfort a porrada direct.

I was doing a box with a Spire with a guy he had 118 Kiel

yeah we we did spires two years ago. I did do with him. Then he voluiled for a carambe to do a lot. When I went to get a spirek in a lot of Jammal, I don't

get to get in a hand-washed. I thought, I thought, I had been a good something bad. Then I was re-bendent. Now, now, I, I did front with him, and a man look is good, right, high-level of boxing, a level, a big old. So, I'm sitting very much more confiants. I've worked

much in my box, my defesa, my low, a long, out of the time all the time all, the time. It's good to come to the west, a defensive, very defeclera, much lift, very jiu-jitsu. I did a camp very good, very, very long, and I'm ready.

I'd have part of your plan in to go to Thailand, to prepare for this lute, for the casement of Gilles, it's a thing that you always does a lot of this, or you think that there the type of training

that will be the ideal for you to confronts exactly a guy like Kutelaba. Okay. Moirtai is one of my art martiales more of my style that I have, more strong, I'm a good job, of the foot of the foot, the foot,

I went to just to be more to perfects to make my techniques, not just for the contelab, but for the future but I'm not focused on my process, but I don't think in future, in being champion, in bathe, I think now in the

next lute. My goal now is to gain the the next lute, then, then, before the next one when I can get, And then I thought of those things, so I prepared very well

for puttelava, I watched many of the world of his own, my trainers, and we did a game plan very good. We've done to work in a game plan during various months, so I see when he

bat, when he respirates, when he attacks, when he does when he does the hand to the front, with the overhand, so it's all overhand, so it's all right

very, well, all in my brain here, flowing, and I'm just, I did the part more difficult, that I'm going to

and continuing doing the drill-s- every day to get in, in front of the body, all the tech all the day

that I did not get against this, this, against this attack. You feel in the last

last few, those, the last few, years, you know, you're not, not think so

that's thinking, that's, you're, I'm, I'm going to get the back the

front, I'm going to, what, that is, what you're how you're how you're, how you're,

I think about you think about you think about you think about you. I'm going to get him I can't this guy

and you can't you're trying to get up again to get a matter. For sure, today I'm in my oldge

of my form physical now, I have more than five, six, seven years. I'm more

more of more of more of planning, of the future, and the other

the last three years I was passing a moment me difficult because the life doesn't prepare

for when you go to when you're from success fame, money, other country,

and I know what, other other opportunities. And then we have to have to a car a

little to learn to learn, know, have the experience and to be able to

do you know, I'm a experience, experience with a bunch of things different,

I've committed many, I've made with all of them, I've

had a mental how we for the health mental. Health mental. In the last three years, and, I've got to be able to wincer,

I'm more focused, I've got to focus more. This camp was the way the camp I did. In the other camps, I always had a little a little bit atrazated in those

trainings, I was focused on things different, you know, I'd make a preparation physical, more, I don't understand what I

need, where I need, the burraco, where I need, the, where I need more to work, to work, I'm,

I'm not, I'm a lot of, the doctor, Pisa, you know, the person can prepare to the fight.

So I'm a lot more art martial this day, I'm not I've got many the trainers and I

heard the game plan, I've seen the people, they're doing this many years, yeah, I've passed

with a goal, the end, he's, go, every time, to do make the

time, I have to talk, more, the guys, I know, I, I know,

I know, I'm, I know, but the guys know, I'm, I'm, so,

the guy, so, I'm not more the trainer, I've got to I've seen the best the first

I'm a lot I'm focused in the art martial and I'm sure I'm doing much better now.

Accoctored something in your life in this last this last the end the

end of the derot in you and you helped to do to move the way

you see the life? With certain with it happened and I

came I always I always I always I always keep patricing for the company of CBD

there then the CBD is a a part of the cannabis that's therapy

for you relaxes and I always I always I don't I used I don't I don't

know I was I discovered a little time about four five months after

five months every has a little a percentage very small. And I'm extremely allergic to to H.C. Me

does chrysophonia, me do syndrome of panic. And I was me drogating every year in the last few years. And I don't know, because it's not a lot, it's a percentage bit of a small. But my brain is super sensible for this substance. And I don't

know. When I started to use, I could be more confiant, I could confine more than the people. I could focus more on a goal, and get a ced in the academy. My my life , my life

better than I didn't know, I didn't know, I'm doing the last three years three years. Now I'm

simply very very solidable, yeah, the head in a place, making, doing, doing so, I was doing

with my new, the two of the few years, I'm thinking, a bunch of besteara, not was

not acting like I, know, so, so, so, I was, I was

what I was when I was, and I was, when I was , I I could sleep

and then I'd have to be able to help me help me help me to help me help me and then he'd be drug

more than the thing was a problem I'm not not saying that's all people yeah

so it's people it's good for anxiety but for but for me that I I need

I have some how is the name of the condition is a a guy

hyperativa he has a disturbance no what I'm like DSDS

DSD no what I'm have a little... DST, no. TdH? Yeah, a thing, I'm

thinking about the time in the same time. And the chemistry of the T.H.C. How my

Cerebo, not was legal, and I don't know, but I didn't know, but I

just years, I've been six, six months. And then, my life moved. You came to pass

for some thing, to, like, to fact, a, a little bit of a crisis of syndromed

of panic, schizophrenia, like, some of the episode, like, I went to do ferries

to Thailand and then in the first time there, I, I, I, I, I

took an episode that the level of THC that I used and was very high. In fact,

it was very, was, it's pretty, but the quantity that entered

in my system was very out, and then, it took, it took, it took, it , it took to be done.

I'm sorry, 10 days, my name, I mean, got to be like the , you know, I didn't,

I didn't, I'd say, to get her my time, I'd have been , you know, to get azeepan, you know,

to demontal, car, to do you, dozepan, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd,

I'd, then, and I, put it, in a, I, I'd, I, I, I,

, I, , I, , I, , I was doing a massage, I don't know where, because in the Thailand yeah, there's a lot of,

I went to see after her, I picked a van, a taxi, I went to go ahead, I gave a job to her, and I'd

go to night like, seeing things, I was doing I was like, I'd have done to be back to back,

to be back, I'm not, I'm a episode very brabo, so I'm, I'm saying, I'm possible, car,

this is not normal. Then it's long, I'm going to get 10 days, zawed, I was, I said,

I don't I can't use more this no. I've had another episode after the Maretta.

I was in Las Vegas, I'm lute with him I'm looking the way, I said, I'm possible

this is wrong. I used the CBD again, that drop-z- so I'm there's, I said,

I had had to the ligament because I chuteed much in the luteed me,

I know, I know, I knew the legament of the pen, then I I took

the CBD. My my brother. Of one way, I'm like, I'm scared of my carousy, man. I don't confiated

in the same of the panic. I didn't want to go to see far to me. Then I started to say, it's possible

that these episodes are going to be normal. Everyone can't be this porth like I started to

learn in the internet, to look to look at a specialist and I I came to find this

poor not for me not for me not. For other people can be it's it's

that have benefit for my my brain I don't I don't need to this form and not

it's not when you when you came to do you for what you started for the

cause of the son? Ah, yeah, to say it was that anti-flammatory to get

the disease and so when the first I came to Las Vegas I I had contacted

with the company I got got to I got I got three companies different that

me patron the CDD but for other you can you can I'm being caught for the other people.

But for me, it was a vener, and I don't know. You, you, you've been

a little other thing to, not the mind your son, now that you don't,

I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying to to be in a little baby now. I'm stressed,

I don't have anxiety, and, I'm, do I'm very for caramba, I'm not, I'm trying,

no, comprimed, no, calmant, nothing, the water, the food normal,

the diet, normal. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing a new mental coach,

one of the UFC here and a particular there's just to talk about to work

more, you need, you need, to be a problem, if I have a problem, if you have

a difficulty to get a lot of a, you know, to you do you know, to work

like the techniques of respiration, the, there are many the types of techniques different, So I use the characters

who are a specialist in this to me help me help for my health mental too. And the, and how you think that this will you help

in this moment dedicated that you need, and justly not have anxiety, to be calm, to know, to say that you

know, a moment of decad professionally, uh, in the FCA, to divide the rot and and, obviously,

victory is fundamental, but especially in a moment that you live today, to know, to not or let's

this pressure to carry over your arms and go see and go and do you know what you

know to do you have to think to think that this element extra that is

so now. Now, I've got that I was actually when I

had to before I had to get to know this I don't need

of that of this was rice and I did supplement soplom

trin trin to car by car and more now

I'm too more tranquil, but with all the experience that I have, in a level I'm, I'm, I'm, I look to the world, I don't have to assume in responsibility, I'm one of the world,

if I want to be the best of the world, and I'm going to be a ranking, so, I'm a bit difficult. So, I see that it's like I, po, the level of the guys are good, the guys are, the, I'm, I'm a champion, in their country, like,

the, like, the Yan Kutelab, is very good, of Western, probably, you know, probably there's many times, you're, you're of other things parada there, so I'll

do with the world but I'm the but the important. It's

important is you to get to get a situation to be the same to be

the I'm trying I'm so I'm quite so I'm in the three months

I'm reading the fourth book now I'm that's the

that's the time that he did he's there's to

get to to get all your your objectives, not be stressed, can't be able to

a lot, I'm always reading a book now, to be able to me help in my health mental,

I'm very more maduro also, you know, I know, I know where I can get, I know my potential,

I know, I know the risk that is the profession also, you know, so I'm more maduro and very much

more than much more tranquil with all these experiments of the mental culture, and reading

the book, and all the that I can sum to my health, so I'm very very bad

very bad very far as how you win this this is a lot of this is a car

if the Cotelab to look like he with all the last his last his last his

I will knockoutia he I'll get him in a contra golf

or you go or you know, I'm to make he is,

how you say, miss, the punch is, eral a punch, because

He, he beats with much He wants to get to get to the head out of the So, you know, so if I make him he err,

he will err really be able to get him, because he will be displicent, right? He will not be to be a position that he will

be able to he don't have to be Jiu-Jitsu, I think, I think, no, I have certain that he's,

I've seen the game of his, I've seen much of him, the Jist, he's not just, he will be able to be not able to

me to and I can I can submitter him, finalize him. Finalize

him. Oh, the time that I don't say the Portuguese. Yeah, it's all. Yeah.

Or the intention for to get a armadillo and get in a contraigal because he will come

to bat force, you know, and try to and try my crotch my crotch

in my hand out, if I'm put the question of me to me to be to be back

to be to be to be to the I'll, I'll, or, I'll finish him, if I'll do you, I'll do you, put, shoot, so, the clovelo, it, you can't, not

me knock out of that, you'll get, you'll get in my guard, you, so I've been, so I'm so, I've got, and I'm gonna bathe, and, say, and, don't, no, it's no, I'm afraid, I, don't get a lot of the way, so, so, I'm knockout, I'm, and...

I'm, I remember, I'm I remember, that when you went to the three first luts, you, you renovated, you, renav, you renovated, you, you renav-, for more six in some moment

in this middle of the middle of the you have been to renav or this

is the final the last your last the last myrata signy more six

so I'm more four lute and how what you did you do the actual

the category that we're going to go Rache now

as a champion he was he was putting to the Glover but

but it's It's a turn out of and it's well, it's well it's very common that's

probably in January, in December, how can you see the top of the division, the pro rachs

as a champion, is a a new name that's a vision that you're you're just imagineable

that he had potential to be to turn the FC when he came over when he's

when he's he was very he's very lot of the UFC no, he has two or three

two or three so, no matter. So he did much less than the lot of many of the

lot of there's good, and it was the guy right and it was getting there

on the no, no, no, the signoron and it's no

champion, but I think there much there's a division that he's like

and I think there no there's any in division today that is

how you can can't embattive all everybody can be

in all So it's very interesting a Light Heavy 8 today because there's a lot of people who are batting everyone who's going to go out of the other. Nobody is the guy super, I don't want to be able to this guy, I don't want to even fight with him who doesn't have a chance.

I have a chance to knockoutia and start anyone at the category. So it's just that I've already a lot, I've gained a lot. So the category is very aberted, I think, today. And no guy is sovereign. So, so it makes us very animated

that everyone has been much animated, that everyone has chance to get there in Tocuzon, not be champion. You think the Glover wins in a revenge? He was going to He was going to He was going to,

even with the difference of velocity, the Diri was erring much the goal and the global doing a little goal,

but a little goal certain more effective, he was getting some points and he got him in the

finalzine there, if not was he was almost he was almost he was almost

he would not be different trying really the Glover will will give a to do a

salve on with a with a whole she was she was asking for who knows

to make this battle for you know but you think but the pro rask is per

because we're doing that no any way to get to the globe in

January in January it's it's totally caggat you you think it's

you're in any in any in any in any in Tocat Glover, he's just a threat.

Imagine it in a Brazil. It's clear that no, right? You think it's a me? I think it's a good. It's true. Because the guy, he's the champion. Why he will have to go in the territory of the car defending the centaural?

This is he might be a little bit just, but... But for me, it doesn't do you look in in any of the world. I would, if I were... If I were... If I was a year...

No, I go there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to... I'm going to... ...toldee... ...told be... ...so he not... ...not are...

And it was just for we to finish I saw for you post a photo with Hansan Kimae in the WebCPI you came to you even

or just you know he between a train and other oh I just I found he took a photo together

he was he was with my partner of the training just was the training just

now just strategy there repetition no nothing but probably probably I go

in Switzerland Sweden Sweden Sweden is In Switzerland, in Switzerland. I'll give a pull out in the just to know the academy of his training.

It's good for post you a train different, in the side of the zone of comfort to make a part of different. And the guy is a guy great, because he lute of middle, and you're a guy

very great to, you're a little heavy pesado and he seems a guy in terms of a time of

a time, he, not, not, He is very great for the category. He's a lot of 7-7, right? Lute of 7-7. Category of Michelle, too,

Michelle also is very big. That's great. You think he will affect the Nate and Diaz in the last the final of this event? You think he gets? After he, he'll

live, he saw the shape of the beast, you think he smugue needs? How do you have said? I don't. How do you have said? I think the the nut and Nate

will do, the more the lute durer, the chance the camisate has been to gain to

the clasp the time the clasp comes, the camisatt comes with the chance to gain the chance he will

be diminuing because the Nate is too d'n't a nutt but the first

round is camisat second round the camisat but less even even if it's for the last

round I think the Nick the Nate Dia Jia will to gain the Maria, Camarado, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I, very,

year, but the life is all the day, you with your new wife, that's the most important, yeah, it's a very,

yeah, it's a lot of a day, thank you, we're doing so much, I'm happy, I'm motivated,

I'm back, and I'm got back, let's go, and the interview now is with the norma of

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we have Norma Dormon, that's on the first of a starryant in the NFL Daniel Wolfe, in 279 in Las Vegas. Norm, thank you. I'm glad to you to be you in the podcast. How are the things

in this red line, a final, a few days, I'm a few days, I'm going to say in a month more once a year. I'm Glegg, it's allie.

Well, it's in the same, but we're getting more accustomed to, will be more, going to be more, we're going to, let's say,

more, let's be adapting more rapid. We've got some three days so it's all all over going to be. You're in

a series in sequences of victories to make the decision divided against against the last time.

How is that it's not some kind of some way? You know with the trainings, the head

in a lot, the postura, how can come in the norm in this Saturday

after after this derrata the first in two years in the F. I think

that is what I say we're always always have to come with an apprenticeship to get

what happened to get the I'm a manse not a not a athlete

than I and we know of she she said she said she said she said

she really she really she was she was the thing she she was the thing she she was

much much but I also also have the lesson for me to not

to make that not and not keep at sometimes contando with the arbitra of

a lot of the other, because I actually probably that he would have separated, that she was more than trying to do absolutely nothing, but unfortunately we don't put to make this happen because if you know, if you can't want to make a professional, to do the separation,

and I me brought this thing to want to be more aggressiveity, to look more this war, so it was something something positive, and I think we have, I think, we have, to see

both the victory and the the point of the points and the points

and the point of the trajectory, that's the point out of the sturtureau the sturturtia against me

Marab de Vashville, that was a guy who was a guy who got putting the water,

but not attacking much more than he'd do a little he'd have a little bit and he

don't go he not going to he not quite just to just to say I'm saying that I'm doing

something he'd give me I imagine that it's frustrating for an athlete that's a time for a lot of for a lot

that can't happen something, can do a shot in a car, take a chush in a car, but it gets there and not

happens a lot of so, imagine that the FC should say put out of that.

I think the the proper the FC should be a lot of this. Talves not not

not not a point, because, for example, you pick a lot of the Rolly and the

Kethling, the Rlyham did the same the same the same with the victory, because not that she

should, I think that the Ketton did more of the point of view, she was she was the she was a

look, she was looking at the regra the thing, the thing, the role would have to be left the fight

also. So, I think to be this, this anti-jogo he has been to be put out and

not have to be putto- because if you want to we're looking to look, that we're we're in

the ground, that It's even at the garage, that exists, the dirt box there's a you're going to to make sure

the other but the guy not he's not, the guy is, how it's the lot of the Rose

against the Spazza. The Rose would be, corria, a marathon the whole whole lot of

the other the proper jurors, you have to look to that's not an anti-joke but as

not a not-gier- but it's not-wale the point. I think that it would be able to

the athletes, for example, she sent her incurralada, she was chained, not was not able to be to get me down, not could be able to and not get to get me.

What did she did? She was going to the ground in the garage there to not say. This would be going to be counted the

point. This would be canceled and back to the middle, and it's not just because it's not just for

example, the Ketten had been going to have got to have a victory against the country. I also

I thought that had been been seen because I thought that had been the record, but I thought it

to have beencid. Because it's been like, so you're going to be to put up to work, don't it's going to be able to find out of nothing. I think it's the game certain you have been lot of the world, which is a lot of everyone

was everybody was ever that was to the show, that was in the whole world would be that would happen to happen to happen and he'll happen the fight.

And he'll leave a lute you know, and the Spasa versus the Rose and the Rose and no could be she'd not parable at Spazza's the hour none She was a

Lutta Really, it's not it's a really, you need to start to start with this way,

because we're not there to make a figure, we're going to happen, that's so I'm in the whole, so I'm going to start

to say, car, no, like, don't know to do this game, you will be able to be able

the guard, if you're going to be a guard and feasts to be able to be able to you, you

are playing the lute, you're a position of attack, the MMA is defense. You're going to you're trying

that the lot's interruped there's a an end of the no way. To not be the same form.

We'd have to be a little more more of action but, but unfortunately not it's we have to adapt what they're

to do that the worst the last time. I think the great problem is to be in a inconsistence of you

not know, because at the time there's a time if if there's there's there's

there's a other abe that will wait to wait two minutes. you never

know what that the opt-you-up, he will try with that position, because at a few-vis, she pendered in you, and you're gonna do, okay, it's not, it's not that he will try. Then you can't do it,

because, as you don't do anything, because, as you don't do anything to get to pay off the next, yeah, it's gonna be able to try, and he'll take, and he'll take, your car, and then you say, and I perjee, me, yeah?

And I, before I was, I don't have perceived, but he was the same arbiter of the Lutz, and the Aspen, Leads, and the Asp he passed the fifth round, of all of the total, doing the same

thing. Like, she was, I don't get me deba, not could be machy, not could make sure not quite minutes in the

same position of the grader, but the D'Ap, really I don't never trying to say, because I had gained the

four rounds, so I said, I got, I got to get the four haldes, she'll be doing this I didn't,

I didn't, I didn't, it was all, all the way. Yeah, the Mence, I really tried to

say, but she was able to be some brazen, so she had to be my centur and not let's

I see that I was the same Arbitro. I said, car, it's the same arborette he also

left four minutes she was doing that he didn't know not interrompe any moment so the we're going to

know the you have to get to get to get to he's you know he's a right now that

he's just you know there's you know you know in what in what we're in

you go back you're you all in the hour that we start the heatcement he goes there and you go and you're going to do keep doing if you enter

the pierceau-bye I'm going to see the lapid your love that I'm going to say all right now the voltage is my who can't leave for show I'm sorry let's say if I'll never let's talk to him

if I'll let's talk to him if you'll never if you'll never to let's get this letter no yeah the truth you know you know that's you know because Daniel

Wolf is the doctor of box there's a daughter of borgs there's a lot of M.A. was in the contender, that's the chance of the contract with the FC. The strategy is

clear. It really is, I don't go a poxed with her in-pe, I don't go a man with her,

because this, the expertise of her, is to use the MMA against her. I don't have a

real sense. She has, I think the Danielle is an excellent strike in box, but I

also, I also have a experience in a strike, so, so, I think my movementation

is a little than her of her. I see the gulfs, the jeb direct of her is very good but she has not a ability,

nor much resistance with chute, also don't have much ability in bat and down to the front, she can't be able to

start to explore this, but with total conscience, that the direct of her is very good, the jab of her very really, a

athlete, a athlete, a athlete, a, very athletic, so probably is a fort, that one,

that bra, that's chate, the chate, the chast, the chaste, Faxia-branca in Jujits, she has been

very athletic, so probably it's an athlete that will be a good vigour physical in the

but, but, yes, no can't say that the intention not to put to

back back and get or finalize in Grand Empald, because it would be the

way the way to wince. But I also, I don't have the fear of

the problem it's a thing that I'm so preoccupated,

because, also, despite to be good in the box, but also have your limitations, too have your

breaches, and we can see this, in the clusts in the last. The Lutas of her the books,

too, because we know that's a lot of a box, she will be moving to a moment that

no m.m. She will not be able to because in the box, she don't have to mind. And in M.

M.A, she has only been a lot. How is you did the sport different, and of

the MMA, of fact, it's a video so that you can't see. This is a little complicated because there

much time. She's a lot who has been over two years so we don't know what she came

evolving, what she came out of she's a little bit more a threat more a lot of 39 years

so at times sometimes also there's not there really the young to try to learn

to learn to learn and absorb more things rapid and let say

let's let's let's let's let's to be, not, to get a

, I'm not I think it probably evolved so, I think she maybe she came to

the same game, she was in the first she was, but I see the same

thing, she's a same thing she a jab or jab direct or jab

jabb, jabb direct, no, there's much variation. Raram she sometimes she

some those crossades, not not much of comfort of her,

not a doctor that I like to go to go back to her way to walk, she's not

a lot of not quite quite not quite she's got to the way to the way to because the day of the

direct is well, so I'm a distance a good, so the idea there's just in the first

minute of the lute, find the time of she, to find the time of her,

and then start to try to try to the chuts, the kettas, the

countergopes. I think the great that we have really have really, have this control of distance, and have the arm of the

ground, have the arm of the briga, we need to be brigand, we don't have problem no, I really know, I like I'm going to, we live there,

we're just, we're just to be in the academy. If we're not not saying the distance, we're going to start the ballet funk, and then the pawbrier, my son,

my father, my father, my, morgue, and burraca to burrower to get to the ground, and put it down,

or not protocoliard. And it's really, this is a thing that we have in Brazil. We're very agarried, if we need to bring,

we're bringing, we're with much a lot of that's a lot of that's a lot of that we're able when the woman maybe appealed,

you know, that was out of distance, the manna came to embollah in her, and do go to the

front, she was a little bit per almost been because, you know, So we saw, she saw, she She doesn't goopied, she has this incommode

very great, and it's it a discomfort to Daniel, she's a good athlete, not we can't let her in control and tranquilla, at the distance, we have to do that

we have to a zone disconfortable, and she will end up this is our objective. And what do you think this victory does for you in the corridor

in the contourses, you're very conscientious, without press of the centurion, I'd like a but does a job to fumigin

to get a minute. And at the same night we're going to get the Mace and Irene Aldana.

It's difficult to know what the UFC pretends for this category because there Amanda Nunes that

has recovered the centuron on the title, there's always this question questionament this doubt

in the other other other side the other other side, Daniel and she is a ex-compan

American of box She's, she's, she went to the container to do the Strenner MMA, or so the UFC via the potential of marketing of her, because I don't put her in a strier on a setter on the F.C.

So, gain her will be a victory, maybe for you, more important, than you, for example, have gained, the Aspen Ledge, because it's a matter that's a very d'Ura,

but not has, maybe, the name that the FC enchering in the, you think, that's going of her

you can't pass the front of the vencer of the Mace and an in a

course of a clitor in the middle of the only the three and I think they're

not, I'm going to the galo but it's that kind of Amanda have the

two cintorons she she defending the the galu

and the no no does not much no no I imagine

that the Mace would would be for a four or five to

to I think, with all the sincerity, I don't see in which path that Amanda is thinking about this division. I think that after her had perished of the centurion, she gave a recuado, like, all right, I need to respirate, I need to program it better, because she knows the potential that she has, but she knows that, mal-trained,

she can't perfor any of the top of the division. So I think she gave a freeada. Maybe it will be programmed a little better. We don't know what she will do. If I don't me In the last She's not She said

She said She said that she She said She said She said But she said She said she said So it's

So I'm not I'm going to I'm waiting I'm I don't I don't I'm much pretenation

So what will be So the My combination with the FC Until then was

After this Lut Dece to 135 And it To start The Briga Pyryr

POT Also is Yeah You know, you know, you've been to come by the years and you've got to the whole lot of the war, they're saying,

they said, oh, yeah, not, not there's no, there's no, it's going to be defending, and then, boom, Amanda perished,

and it's, and it's, like, let's see, what will be to be the front. Now, she's, so,

also, also, also, also continued, and we, and we're, but I, but I have the intention

to do more a lute, for the division, after the Danieli. I don't think that Danieli traga

a lot of I don't see I think she maybe maybe it's even being an incomodo for EFCE

because she had some other she was she was going to the lute and then

two years that she got she was contracted and not she got she

got a she's got with a fact she's on her but

there there there one there I would would to

confront her after this the fight of Daniel, I've been on the vene the

I'm going to try to talk about to come to all the octagon to everyone, that really, I'm thinking

that the people are forgetting that I'm here in the division of 145 and a

much time for this vaguely, so I have a name very interesting to call

on the next. I was I'm still thinking that you reveal to the name.

A secret. Torssa for my victory. I'll see And just to finish to film about Amanda

she won't she took a revenge when the Felice Spencer, recupered the what you expect

to her? The Juliana, is that she think she she has that she has many

defences by the front even as she has said that she has been about she said

about about about about the future you think that we're going to

last she's Amanda 23 might be that's the last the last

year of her. Defend it one every one of each, Chai Benz. I don't see. Of the reality, I don't see what is the plans of Amanda. She's too too, I think that's a little aposenting now, too, it's a indication of

that she also wants to be because I also, I want to enjoy a video. I've, even, in a interview of her, I accompany, I love me of Amanda, especially, of course, to want to want to be able to get the title of her, but it's our job, but I love to Amanda, a person

very legal, very baccana. But I've seen her doing some about those talking about she's talking about

she's going to live, because the people think it's just to go just to go to work

but no, man, no, there's a diet, there, there, train, you have a hand of

a lot of something, you know, and it's long from the family, you know, you get more

reserved, and it's three months, two months, Then you go ahead, you have a cobrances, you have, emig, the time all on the time all of the stinturon, the day entire, the day, the day, she's going to be, this will generate a disgust, you know, that I believe, that the athlete's

a point that, I don't care this more. I want this more. I want to doorme and get to worry about this, without this, without having to preoccupy with anyone me when you're trying to help, in having to me

to be able to tell you know, I think not just this part of to look to and train

in the because the majority of the athletes when they continue training but not it's

all this there's a compromise of you have to have to have to

do you have to do you think it's very very for who

not for who for who for who who's not my case of the case of Amanda

for who who's going to for who's quite a lot time doing this I think I think

it's a fact something very very very very very

very the the compromise the I think I'm I don't

see if Amanda I think I'm more two, and if

she think she she will be one one you think you

really you don't know I'm don't I'd would

would be really I would would much that the FC me this chance and the more rapidly possible, because I really

I'll see that Amanda is a little bit can't, so I don't think she will be a lot of time doing this. But I really don't know,

I don't, I'm creating expectative on this for not to be frustrated, you know? I think it's I know, I

know, I'm going to get the centuron. When, counter who, I don't know, but I know that I'm going to get

the centuron. And, no, it's will be doing, so we're working and not the

next. Now, now it's the right, because it only depends just of me. Depends to

it's not to do you do the hand the under the defense, the F.C. to keep the

to make the decision, so it's so of me. So, no, I can't, create the

expectation about a about the thing, I'm not, so can create the expectations

about the Saturday, and the time you do you're doing after the we're

going to the other you're so, thank you thank you thank you thank you

always. And good good luck in the future in the victory. Help the UFC to live of this problem that you said

to tell you. I'm here to help help you. William, I'm going to thank you. I'd appreciate.

I'd like that's thank you. And we we're going to talk about with Jailton Maladino, the auto-proclamado

Rabiv-Brasil that encar the German Tulkas this Saturday. The other side of the line

we have Jailton Maladino who FCD, this Saturday, under Anton Turcali, Turcari,

Anto or something in a book of my time. My well, welcome to podcast, more one way,

it's a pleasure to talk with you, how are the things, how are the time, about the time, in this

time, thank you, a pleasure to be a podcast, we're doing this podcast, we're very

very so much, sobant on the time, on the time, depending of the

other of the anniversary, we're we're able to be the situation. Let's see what will happen

before. Before, before, we're going to talk about specifically there, who we

see that we're in the same in the academy, but it's a presence constant also in

barradown, to be Vittoria, how it, and, but, you're going in camp,

balancing the badererang, the to the team, the team, how is this this relation,

how is, how is you can't continue, like, you're, like, a idol of

the team, the team, I was in the Grammar, the guy grittando the name, how was this opportunity,

this relationship, this relation? I always, I always used to Victoria, never, I used to do football,

and the relation between, between, the my person and the relationship very, very,

very, very, a, the, the team and I'm about, I'm also,

the president of the, the person, the guy, a man, good, good, good,

good, a guy, the guy, the guy, I have a friend of Victoria. I have a member to work on the market of the Victoria, Rafael, a good also, so it was a connection as much as a perfect,

we've got to be able to get and, and, thanks a God, he, he considered him as well as a little, no, the club, independent of my career, is in a situation very difficult, not, we're going to stay in C, but we'll go out to the scenario national of the elite. We've seen, we've got to the

F.C. brought to Brazil, various lootators, having relations, having a patrocino, for the team of football, there was a Minotauru with Inter, the Paulo Tiago with a cruzeer, many people, even that not were

supporters of the proper team, it was, but there was an opportunity, but passed on this time it was a bit a bit of this relationship after the UFC

did a refecida here in Brazil, but, well, it was with victory, the Charles of Prong, the corinches, when there's,

when it's when it's a very, the sentiment, not just a, a thing of marketing and see that

it's a part of a lot of a part of it's a it's a mass it's a nice when the

I'm not you know that you talk about I'm going to come back and the victorah

was going to a day of Patera he marked he made me mark I'm watching the game

on the game not just a like a like a thing is to talk to

I'm too I'm I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm I'm a

the top of the team. Imagine that being a lot of UFC is a realization of a

dream to for you, because it's the major league of the world today, but also

it was it was it brought to make more of your name and now you know,

and you're going to in camp there, poe, be soldado by the person

too, yeah, it's a face, it was a thing for me, yeah,

so if I if I'm the world I'm told, I'm like I said

there, it's, it I, I want I was going to be in this palco. My son was a much to fight in a card

in a card enumerated, I always had in a fight night but I did the other than I did. So it was my life in an arena,

like I went to goy and the guy sawsend, boy, an energy of a zohra massive,

I'm, I'm, I feel really really with this. I'd thank you to have really to

my dream first, so by just by the fact of I go to go and I'm going

to see the sturture and I'm just I was living this here, I just a lot of him to do combustible to to be a lot of

my dream, to be a lot of my son. It's just to be going to be in the UFC, with me too with me, we're working with

with me, because we're in the same card any, any, any event of these, I can't,

it's a relation to a dream, that I can , I can't , I can't make an FC, man, you know,

and I'm, I'm a lot everybody has, everyone has been my radio social, because I'm a guy, I'm a lot

really to learn, not a man, not a man very polemic, I'm a guy a tranquil, because I think I'm a lot of work. I'm trying here like a job. I'm trying to

a certain place that all the dollar he wants to get to get to be champion the world. The Saturday, so, you're tropelling, Saturday, winning the ABC out of the house

to keep the dream of the series B? Ah, it's, Saturday I do a show here, the Victoria gets there goes to there's

a B.C. He's a B.C. And then we will get more tranquill, we'll get more more,

we'll get in house here and say I'm going to go to turn on the team too. I'll be there

to put on the team for we get this access. Yeah, and talking about

your lot specifically now, you know, I'm trying to try to Riemove but

he ended out of the loss because of the last of the The streerant, the Anton, as we

said, who is a guy that's a guy that's also, he's never received, but not received the contract. What's the statured

to do Chalmiel to affect the Anton? The style of the lot, in the we don't know that the style of the law of

Anton, is a style me, is still that Anto is a guy who makes a much breaches in the positions,

who who has seen the series view, that he is a a guy who not bused

a finalization in time no, like he to get to the job like he and he's

not the and I'm there's a position that there's that I'm in a case in the

case of the under the case of the training so he just got more the training and we

see the last year we justa maybe we just made a modificated on the we're

we did we study we're justuded a we're a plant to we'll get to do you

get to the real of the original would be the weight of now, will be the a piece of

10 kilos. This piece of 500 kilos was been paid of you did you

do you do you? The guy, he said, he said to call to $9.3

with me with me I'm going to get to 106 kilos like I'm saying I'm saying

for a lot of a lot of the lot of Chalal we'd have done a

diet to put to move a little more the piece to not try to get a

little to get a little bit more to get to 15 kilos that the people are going to

get to suburb so we know, we're going to get to get to six that's

you get more very much and the the peser those those are so much

you can wait a mom bomb and be a ball but it but you

don't see the the hand the the hand the the

moving more than would be more to be more we've got to I said with him I'm going to

I don't want to or he'd like to either or he'd I'm going to be to make up to make by the we're talking about

we'll talk about but he didn't concorded the Anthony no concorded like I don't accept it my president if you can't

get 5 kilos I said 5 kilos I can't I can't be able to be able to I'm so he said

so I'll make 5Kios 5 kilos is the I'm just I'm in a lot of I'm in 102

2 kilos I'm I'm back I'm back I'm back I'm back 102 to get to

get to 15 105 106 kilos you normally you're going to get a

top 15 of the heavy and now to get a guy that's

like I was that was the container and he never received

the contract across the container you you think you

you think the you would You know, you said, you're a guy who's who's a guy who's

been with a FC, and now getting a FC, and now picking a guy, independent of anything of but we always we always

we're in in the way in different of anything no there's a to be a person who's

I have to have to go ahead and I'm always I'm going to get to win independent independent of victory and I'm

going to turn to the victory and I'm in how you think of the Saturday? A paus as a man as a guy

who likes to get much a lot of my game of his game I think the coordination of Cadagatana I'll buske.

And you, after this the plan is is going to go out of 9.3? What do you're doing?

You're going to be puttoe? Another you're in a middle of the way of course. In fact, we're doing the peserable

me too, right? After this fight, we we're going to like, we'll talk, maybe we'll

maybe we'll maybe we'll do the Wobab or Rio. So I want to go to New Yearneer, I want to the proper

Chamio maybe. Tomar that he can't to get the situation of the view of the

issue of the problem, we're going to we're in my house, and fight in my house and make a

great of this galas all the Brazil. So a card of the Abodab as and the

Rhyu facilita for the Chalmiel because the Vist is the

United is more complicated and so Brazil any one comes and the Brazil

whatever would be some any would be there will be there to

but you would be better Abodab for yes or you'd like or

you'd preferrilly would be a lot to be in New New York New York

New York New York is a better in the house need of the people who are

there's organized to be in this entire and DC to do Mose Salvador in Pays and

so would be the I think I think I think I'm I think the

battle will be so I think there's 16 Lott there so it's so it's so I'm

so I'm very pushed so I hope I'm that's for this force. Manure, Maradine. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. For example, for the October once a bit more a bit more than a series B because it's a

traditional should be in a series A, but when to get a victory Saturday and we see in the F.C. Rio.

We're just. Thank you. And of Las Vegas we go direct to Poland and a papo rapid with Ricardo Prasel,

ex-goleer, reserve of Chelsea and defiant to the centurion to KSW. Ricardo, Pracelle, how is it being these

these last few years of preparation to dispute the Tate the Tatewomen, a great opportunity when the Friske is a guy, a veteran of the FC

that's dominating in the Europe with various defenses of the TITO in KSW and very many victories in a but how is you are in this

expectation the major opportunity of your career in MMA? In fact this was one of

the most of the preparations in that I had to know, I came to gogit to come a company of

out of the lot, I'm out of the lot a month after a year and and in

the fact, I came to say to my company that I would not would be a

long as a preparation during the that's that had been in modating

in the very from the last when I'm when I didn't even how

how it's how it's a question to say the this matter, to the day of the

day of the lot. But I keep in the way to do you. I'm going to not going

to say what what you so, but I do, I've I just did

three infiltrations on the on the on the on the end of the work there to

make a operation after a after the later I did do the after

but I chose to be there in same, I I'm not doing to do what I could do to do what I could do to not

to let the opportunity to to do the tisor to say my own, but, like, it was one of the preparations more difficult that I've, I went to two great victories, where I surprised everyone, where I was a

ar-a-o-total for the two two-lots, and I I chose to be in-simmy, and I'm, independent, if I'm going to be the more, with a d'or, or with a door, I, I, I chose to be there

So I assume the responsibility, and I will do do everything, car. Even if I say, it's destroyed for me to bring this title to home. It's a great dream that's a loting for the title, and I don't want to escape. So we did do all right, so I did, like I said, I've just three intracions

for having to have some preparation for this lute. No, it was a contrajudication medical, but we're there. We're there to be a bra, for sure. to do 100% on the same. The doctor counseled for you to say to the

fight? He came to the doctor, because he no had more can do, more infiltrations. And he, like, not assume the responsibility, you know, car, like, to, and things of the type,

so. And how is that affected your top-focus in the trains, so? How's percent you you think that you'd that you're going to

this, uh, by the title of KSW? I think I think I'm, I'm, I'm in 60%

60% 70% so, there's things in my game that I did, that I moved a lot

during the training that I think I don't, that I don't could be to realize certain movements, but,

but I, I'm saying very the fact that it's a thing that in in the hour will be

impede, you know, I think that I'm going to do to do do the fight, will make it superar this and then we're going to to resolve what we have to do with the doctor and

and everything, but I think it's a thing that will, like, in a lot will, like, me to try the total focus. I think the

adrenaline will make that make, with that I, with that I, and it's why I'm here, in the fact,

I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

and I'm, and I'm, and so, my friend of, Fritz, how is your opponent, think you think the game,

the game of his game how you think you think you think you see this a

second how you know, he's a kind of a question that's a lot of a series of

aftiering a lot of a guy who's got to get to get 10 kilos to be 10

Kemp to get a category a car of a car a guy that the guy who came to

the breppin also the horse it is wrestling is a a guy that he derub

the mass tabate and the guy desist he There's many

finalizations too. It's a man, a lus like a lus that, theoretically,

it's a little chato, right? Because it's a guy who mean of Jiu-Gitz also,

so it's a lot interesting, car. I think it will be a lot of like, a guy

a good, maybe, if not one of the most like, so, so,

so, so, but I'm but I'm, but I, but the, but the, but the,

but, the, because I have to do what I think to do my Jigsky-no of his so we're going to go to the gym. And what is going to represent that for you after many years of career and be a champion of an event of the magnitude of KSW, which are the most of the European?

I don't know, I don't have any explanation for you, for this, you know, because I don't know if you know of my story, but I'm saying the player of football. And today I'm, I see looting by the title of the major organization of Europe that is OXW. It's a thing that I can't

explain to you in a word the reality, the realization personal, that is it to be going to be up to see the MMA, I never ever

ever ever ever I'd ever be professionalized. And, other to have me professionalized, even today we're still still doing the major events of MMA in Europe

when so many people thought that my career of the atletta had been when I pared with football. Nobody expected that I think I could

that I could get so long even my own own, I think I'd imagine in the time that would get too

long, even I'm and now he is still a realisation personal without a time,

since any explanation to measure to you say to say, what that that's what you

know, you're in football came to play to play on Chelsea you,

you, you, you, you, was having a contact with Chelsea with a

goaler, no? Yeah, I'm six months in Chelsea and then I'm in more two years

in Belgium so in my Vida is football and then then I'm everything, everything,

everything, everything so, career of an encerraised and everything and I'm

doing and I'm doing and then today, yeah, car, you're looking for

the title of KSyd so, so like some, the people, the people don't

get, as many what's what this means, for me, for me, this

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