MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Especial UFC 280: Tudo sobre Charles do Bronx x Islam Makhachev
Episode Date: October 19, 2022Charles do Bronx e Islam Makhachev finalmente se enfrentarão para definir quem é o melhor peso-leve do mundo, e o Trocação Franca destrincha tudo o que cerca o UFC 280. O podcast dessa semana rece...be o jornalista do PVT, Leonardo Fabri, que acompanhou o início da carreira meteórica do menino do Guarujá, além de Diego Lima e Alireza Noei, treinadores da fera na Chute Boxe. Na sessão Fight Week, entrevistas com Caio Borralho, John Lineker, Fabrício Andrade e Kleber Koike. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Charles Oliveira and Islam Makhachev finally collide to determine who's the best lightweight fighter on the planet — and Trocação Franca is here to break down all things UFC 280. This weeek's podcast welcomes PVT journalist Leonardo Fabri, who has covered the early days of Oliveira's rise to stardom, as well as Chute Boxe coaches Diego Lima and Alireza Noei. The Fight Week portion of the program features Caio Borralho, John Lineker, Fabricio Andrade and Kleber Koike. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo!
Cruz
Hello, lo,
am I'm going to
5909 episode
of podcast
Trocaation Franca,
A Suhasa,
This immense
Podesferra.
I'm Gailam-Cruis,
correspondent of the site
M.M.I.F.I.
in the
fourth day,
even, in a little
tabalawated,
while the computer
new, not
chasel new,
I'm having to
be here to edit
this podcast,
but we're
in Charlene Week, right?
I don't know
a week,
co-running two trainers of Charles of the Bronx
to the fight against Islam Mahachev
in the UFC 2008, but we
start the same in the work, resenying
with Leonardo Fabry,
reporter of the portal
of Valitud and veteran of
MMA in Brazil, who finally
accepted the invite to grab me on the podcast,
Trocaceau Franca, all right, my friend,
my friend, welcome to podcast.
Fala, Gila,
it's a honor, it's
a honor, to be here,
right, with Guillem.
It's like if the Hanyel
had in a podcast,
with Messe.
It's more or less
like. I don't
participate much of podcasts,
these things, live,
I'm very timid. I'm a problem
of diction, and I have a
level of D.D.H.
It's the way. I have to
take Ritalina, but I
need to
prescription
medical, but let me
there. But,
but in fact, I accept
all of the pressure.
Detal, I work on the portal
of VALETUES. And there I don't participate.
but I'm
I'm not going to be
the backhuis.
But here
the Gileme
put on a
pressure
I'm doing
finally,
I'm enched
much the sack
and I'm
finally
finally try
Leonard of
Fabio of
the back
and
and they
brought to
us brindar
with your
concierge
Charles
of Brons
partying
to return
the ston
to return
the centuron
of his
contra
him
Marachev
in
Abu Dhab
had
to have
a visit
and lus
to
talk
about this
LUT. Leonard
Fabric,
who over MMA?
How's the years
yeah,
how time
you've got
in this
war?
Since 2011,
with emphasis
in the MMEA
national.
So,
I'm more
about the
Jangle Fight
than what
than the
after the
Shars of Bromx
in the
beginning of
the first,
it was
starting to
make the
barulow,
it,
he's,
three-
one before
I'm
I'm
I'm
going to
get to
Charles
in a
excuse for
to say
for
the
question.
Of course,
Here you
you can't
here no,
there's order
to one
and one
say,
no,
it's a
conversation
of bar.
I'm
some
I'm in some
projects
social
with Charles
and that
in 2011
2012
2012
and we
we're
going to
the complex
of penna
we're
we're
also
a house
of a
house
of
infratory
in
the
place
the
and the
Charles
is
Marrade
in
these
events
always
giving
a
message
to
people
always
giving
there
giving more attention to the
children,
for the menores
for the menorrs.
I don't see
you remember
of this.
I remember
that I think you
were present
when we went
in that telephyrical
of the
that I'm
I remember that
roland,
they'd have
a lot of the
FC and I remember
that Paul
the F.C.
I remember that
was there
when the
But the
but Charles
he came
to Guarujah
to participate
of these
actions
and receive
nothing.
You see
that the
guy,
he just
he's a,
now,
today,
Charles is
a champion,
a star,
the major
name of the
M.A.
in activity
in the
country,
and continue,
in this
side, he
not moved,
he continued
being a
guy,
even when he
had a
little,
he had
a little,
he had,
for the
material
of training,
and he
would be
and now
as a
champion,
he continued
doing
his projects
social,
and with
the
other,
no,
no,
more just
to pass
the
champion of the
people
actual for
Charinio,
right?
With the
only
I'm a
little bit
because we
know how we
know how
we're not
the first
the country
in the UFC
Rhee in January, but
now the focus is
Charles
is recuperate
the centurion
of fact
the
pesel of
the FEC
on the
Saturday
after after
after all
what happened
in the last
last week
after he
He,
he,
he
but he was a
car,
because in the
Vesper,
there was a
last time
of the
he was going
the commission
and all,
that was
that roll
that roll
that rolled,
the rollo that
was a
rollo that was in
Arizona,
and he
brought to
back to the
mal
more left
without
the
but you
think that
that's not
something
in the form
that's
being
being seen
not,
apparently
not,
because it
the
great
LUTA of
year.
For the Brazil,
without
the world,
it's the
major
the
year,
but there's
a lot of
the whole of
Rabib,
and this
lot is
being,
if not
there,
top three
of the
most
the F.C.
in 2022,
no.
So, I
think if
was to
do a problem,
all this
problem,
this,
would be
the balance,
would be
a lot of
the
guys would
would be
a lot and
would be
the lot,
and it's
to me is the
water passed,
a chapter
supered,
no problem
in a lot
in Abu Dhab
that's a
whole world,
the guy is the
champion,
because he's
a centuron,
will be a
house of the
disaffiant,
but the
Diego Lima
came saying
there's
saying that,
they're receiving
the community of
Jujits is a gigante,
more of many
the guys of
the locales are
very adeptos of Jiu-Gitzo,
is ensignated in the schools.
So,
not see this advantage
of the torsida
to favor of
John.
And I think
so very legal
and curious,
that the people
not were
not going to
the media
social social
of Charles,
he,
por,
passing with
a leon
with a
thing I don't
like I don't
like I'm
to be sort
there in
the habitat
to be
being serving
like a
chosurrino
of a collier
no,
but the lion
but the
but the
Charles is a
leon,
so we consider
everything
that's in
family,
then you know,
so I'm saying
in the hotel
with a cache
of son
on the
armro,
dancing,
with that
the
man, the
guy,
is a
man, he's
Bobia
is more
in
house
than the
Marachchev
but the
Marachev
has
all that
influence
of the
embera
those
the proximity with the Russo,
so I'm curious to
to see how it's the climate
in the arena,
but we know,
when you said,
the culture of Jiu-Git
is a culture very
very strong in Abu Dhab.
So, it could be
that the Charlie
be an abrazzar,
that not be,
for 90%
to the Machev
as how the Rhabi
can't have imagined.
So,
60-40,
I think he will
have a vantage-in-lis
but the Jiu-Git's
going to say
the Jiu-Gi-Sah.
The 40,
I think he'll
gritty more
than the 60.
of them.
It's
it's about about
the lute,
what you
expect?
The whole
the great
debate
about the
Charles
not much
the question of
how he
will react
when
happens
when it's
when it's
because
in the
last
he
he
showed
the
he
responded
the
critics
the
people
that question
the
question of
the
Charles
is
the
kind of
those
things
cyclical
that
not
mud
but
But the Charles, independent
of this, he was a guy that
took a knockdown in all
the cloutes, he was derobed, and so, he
got this questionament, for more that
he doesn't have a talk about the
time, the last adversaries, who Charles
infanted, how is Charles
will lead to this
with a challenge different,
that the pressure of the
ground and pounds,
the lot in-seye, how is
what is you are expecting
this, this sabbado,
what we'll see different,
what he will
be a present
to Marachev?
What will
force the Charles
to defend
to experimenter
a game
different?
So,
to be very
sincere,
I don't
know what
I don't know
this
this
is a
question
it's a
lot of
that's a
man you know
it's
there's
there's
there's
there
there's a
guy too
he's a guy
the russes
is very
friar
like inexpressive
in the
little bit in
the aura of
the champion
of Charles
I can't
make in a
analogy here
he is a
carinevex
Swiss
my man
he takes a
lot of
the ground
in per
he's
nocautian
he's nocaughtian
the
goal
of the
and I
see
I think the
Popol
saying
that is
excellent
for
contra
goal
the
the style
of Charles
I
think if
the
if the
Islam
for
up,
he
and the problem
is he
jogger in
the retranca
and the
charles
is my
only
preoccupation.
Because,
car,
so in
the end-
bat,
and as
the case the
lot to
go to
the chalels
solte
that he
carnivette
Swiss
of his
there
I think
not to
Islam.
But if
if I
if you
have to
have to
make a
post,
I
would
Charlie Charles, because he has
much more
possibility to define the
fight.
I think,
it's a lot
I think the
lot that's
generating more
doubts.
Because
always there
a scenario
clear,
if the guy
did this
here,
he has a
tendency to
wince and
all but,
but the
abilities of
both,
maybe it's
equivalent,
because the
best job
to Maritjev
is to put
to back
to get the
up the
up front
He was a rat's for
similar to
evolve
to get to
make a
finalization
and the
he's
a jiu-jitsu
absurd
both for
him and
for the
bottom and
he not
he not
infrented
even in
an
a fcc
a guy
that has
a
a game
a
big of
a
much as
a
far as
he's
he went
on him
on him
and he
he was
he
found
he was
he
got
didn't
but
any
this
style
to
to be
up
up
upro rome,
so he
will force
the Charles
to do things
different
probably the
challenge
probably the
sure he
never
it's a
it's a
lot of complex
I'm
I'm very
curious to
see
to see
maybe the
maybe the
fight
I'm more
in years
because
it's a
very different
it's very
different
for example
to Poatam
with
the
Guardsania
because
he's
confronted
on kickbox
so, the Adesania
was getting
him in the second
Lut. He went
there was a
courtio,
the other
was a lot
was a lot
for him
but in the
MMA
the potta
have been
had been
great
victories
the Adesani
is much
more
more experienced
we can
imagine
some things
in some
but in this
car
yeah
because it
depends
the postura
of his
yeah
it depends
the postura
he
the time
the
Chas probably
obviously
he's
what will
expect?
Because the Charles
still didn't
pick a
adversary
and he's
he's not
a bit of
he's going to
exactly in the
last year
he did
the same
the same
the same
to put up
up up
pression,
pressure,
massar,
or finalize
or knockoutial
and gain
to the point
he did the same
the same
and it did
so now
now that he
will dispute
the symptom
but he
but he still
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
he's
he has
he just made
the guy
he had
had a bit
he had a
It was in a fashapenets, jiu-jitsu,
guys of experience,
no,
with the level of
Charles.
So,
that's,
then if the
minute you
move, you
might be in
your zone
of comfort
there,
because a
fear of the
not a
fear, not a
not a
idea,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm going,
it's like,
you know,
to be a
person,
to say,
Potan,
you don't
put your
mind, you
don't put a
question,
because he
will attack,
with certain,
and then,
then he
will enter
and do
what he
No, but not during the
whole, but in the
initial,
I confused the
adversary,
it does part
of the strategy,
does part.
But I think
this is the
great appeal
of this
is the great
chamarige.
Basically,
nobody knows what
will happen.
And it's for
that I
brought you here.
Because I
want to
now,
I continue
still to
still more
even, more
even.
It's what
you say to
the people
who will
see the
of the 2nda what will
happen, who will
get, who will
get a lot of the
battle?
I think the
Chalje not
caught in the
second round.
But I
will aposter a
money in
Macachiae.
Because,
I'm going
I'm going
I'm going to
I'm going to
I post
against the
Vosk
and I
will get
two times
putt.
The Vasker
I can't,
I percum
the same
thing
with Charles.
Trottcett
to the church
to the
Charles, I'm going to
make a chequev.
Charles,
he got a
I'm a
money, no
there's a
problem.
You know, I've gained a
money, I'm getting.
It's a way
to think.
It's a form of
a way to think.
It's always
my copse over
chey.
But I'm not
a to turn the
Chalels and
I think he
wins.
I've got
of an opinion
about this
lot of this
lot of I
think he's
going to
have got to
I think he's
I think he's
I think it's
more spending
to Maratheve
probably
I'm probably
I'm going
to move
more
times
until there, but
now,
but I'm
talking,
car,
the Charles
is very,
like he
says,
he's in a
thing,
he's in a
bad-
he's an
time, he
passes,
he's going to
get so much
so bad
that it's
difficult
to post
against the
Charles
today,
I've
I've
really
against him
even in the
last
last
the last
literally
is a
money,
but
to think
he's
to believe
that he
would
be
to be
But I think
I think a word
to get a
wait a word
I'm not
not to give a
what I'm
what I'm going to
what I'm
what I'm going to
I think this moment
I think maybe I'm
maybe I'm old
yeah
I'm at the
Saturday night
but in a
conviction
I'm not even
possible to
have no possible
I think
I'm possible
I think the
people who are
the only people
have the
people of Charles
and the team
of Marcherer
then you
you can't
I'm sure
I'm sure you're
you're sure
you're
into,
you're,
uh,
I'm a
morgueed
in the
business,
it's part
the preparation
and it's
not a
lot of
people there's
not a
person,
this is a
type of
that's not
to be
to have to
not,
because who's
saying,
it's like,
is this here,
is a
poor,
is a
man,
it's,
yeah,
I'm talking
here,
that I,
I,
I think,
could happen
that I
that I said,
but,
but,
conviction
no,
it's,
it's,
it,
it's,
it,
it's,
it's,
Come here to
voice
of people who
people who are
a person who's
a person who
he's a
question of a
question of a
puttack,
what's going to
this Saturday?
This is the
magic of Trocaceau
Fronathanta.
Poe,
Crocation Frant
has to pass
be presential,
eh?
I'm sure
anxious.
The family
of bar
there in
the bandito.
There,
yeah,
I will providenciar
but for this
you will have
to go out
New New
January.
No, but I
I go, especially
I, I'm
a alcohol, I'm more
I'm more...
I go to the microphone.
That's what important.
And the UFC, Rio de Janeiro?
Yeah, 21 January,
the Sore is there present here?
I'm, I'm going to
Rio, yes.
And let's see
what we're going to
what you're going to
the local, right?
Now,
so the UFC
has guaranteed
that the
interests are
goted as soon
the billetter would
because the
presence of Leonardo
Fabry is
every more
more rar
in the
MMA.
Debois franco
Yeah
Deboche franco
I'm
I'd like
thank you
thank you
to be
to the part
final
there's
but you know
the second
part of
the podcast
with the
interviews
with our
questions
but the
part more
important
to end
here
that is
the
part of
my
thank
for your
good
for your
know
for the
finally
I've
finally
I'm
so
I'm
so
Let's see. I'll promise you to
go to play a
more, guys,
is that in
the moment
I'm in
other segments
but it's
it's all the
people in the
show
by the charlie
not so
for the charlie
also I think
I think it's
kind of
a man that's
a lot
to see the
future
there's a
carol,
there's
there's a
man who I'm
also
I'm doing
the M.M.A.
national
a little time
I have more
more propriety
to say
And it's
so we're going
to get the
Russo there
is a
yeah,
Leonard
Fabb
for who
know
my
guru
when the
issue
I'm
my
national
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
an
a
a man
a
a man
very
very
very
very
very
very
very
very
and the
sport
gain a
with the
with the
well
a little bit.
A
we'll start
now the
interviews
talking about
just about
with the
head coach
of Charlene
in a chute-box
and Alan
O'A
Iranian
responsible for
afia the
wrestling
his own
in Sao pao.
On the
other side of
line now we
we're a
man responsible
for afia
the arms of
Charles
the Bronx
for this
battle
important
that he
has been
in the
front in
the
FC to
to
all the
people
still
still
that everyone
has
what's the
other
before the
other
the other
against the
other
We're training in the morning,
and at the time we're
going to go a walk-up
here to get a little,
to be free the head,
then at night we're
training again.
So,
God,
all the great is all the perfect
most of our expectations
are so,
better than we think
than we
those photos
in the social
he,
passing with a leon,
he visiting a mesquita
to,
get climat-e,
adjusting to the fuzorad
but also
to know a little
the place.
It's the first
when you're going
to go to Abu Dhab?
You're not
because you
have an athlete
in the club
and it's a great
really.
It's my
first time,
I've been two
days to event
one way to
some other
meetings.
I'm very
here, I'm
very good.
The Charles
is adorando
here.
And so,
and we,
always,
after the
day of the
morning,
a we'll
go and
do a lot here
for here
back and
just to
know to
to know
to know
and at
the same
to,
it's
better, because we're in a hotel,
many people say,
but,
but I don't have to be
doing, you imagine
the day in the entire
dormant in training
in any of the day,
you don't rending in
any of you,
the trainer no rende,
so the idea of
coming to come to
here, really,
we're trying to
get the more
comfortable as
the world,
if we're doing Brazil,
if it was in
the day,
we're always
to do a lot,
we're always
to come a shop
by the academy,
we're always
in the academy,
to talk,
idea,
do something,
so here
we're doing
exactly
better even, because here,
this
lot of this
lot of this
whole of
this
whole of
the world,
he's not
the car
of the
year,
he went to
get in the
little bit he
played with the
lion,
he did it
was an
experience
unique,
and we
know a
house
a mesquita
that's
here we're
there,
we're
we're there
we're
we're not
so,
it's perfect
so,
thanks to
God,
so I think
in the
quantity that
we came in the
country
could be
to be
all the
world together
two weeks
two weeks
two years.
It was,
I think
was all very
very well
very much
we're really
we're really
how it's a
moodable?
I remember when
I remember when I
went to
the first
area of
the first year,
that was a
event,
there was a
important,
I'd say to
the hotel
even a night
and putt
it was
being too
was a
other time of
the year,
it was in
the middle of
how it's been
this cold
too?
It's this cold
too?
Yeah, it's
Kenta
Yeah,
the cold
Yeah, the cold
Yeah, it's going
going to go ahead
but it's really
It's a lot
It's a really
important,
but it's a lot
But,
like now,
I'm gonna
be there in back
after the
breakfast,
I think a
bit of a
little to do
a lot of
a lot of
a little
little bit more
so, so
so it's a
cold really
so much
really
but it's the
other times
that I've been
the other
other times
it was
much,
much more
quite
more
more than
more
is very
good
car,
like,
like,
in the hotel,
is on the
mosque,
he's gonna make
a lot of
the shaked,
po,
abracing the
doing good
to do you,
saying,
and the world,
you're going to
get a lot,
and all,
man,
everyone here
saying,
he's a
champion,
that this
victory is
that this victory.
So,
so,
car,
even,
I think,
to get
to us
who people
would be
that the people
would be
getting
a lot of
people
would be
maybe,
like,
maybe,
like,
perhaps,
in hotel, the people that we're
trying,
everyone we're trying
here,
is saying a good
lot of Charles
when he is a
champion and that he
will try to
this victory.
If the
Marachev
chose the Abu Dhab
thinking that would
be the factor
to cause for
them,
not be so
100%
for him
in the day
there in arena.
Ah,
car, with
certainly,
car's,
like,
Chars is a
kind of
kind of
kind of
kind of
a guy
people
got much
of Jiu-Gitzo
so the
people here
are
I think the people there
and the
way of this
country goes
of the lutez
in the way,
here we know,
we know,
we know the jitis
is very
very far,
it's done
in the college,
so,
so,
so when we're
a man,
so when we're
in a hotel,
say in the
room,
all come to
come to
to try a photo with him,
everyone came
to say,
a victory
to him,
so really,
we're seeing
in the house
in the
reality,
poor,
the climate
is a much,
much,
very good.
One of the things,
one of the narratives
and problems
like,
between the words,
were left,
doubts,
were left out of
the fight of
the Maratheva
and the talk,
like,
oh,
the Charles,
not said,
he was he
the Charis,
the Karibh
saying,
Danel,
Po,
Charles,
not,
he's,
the time the
times the
other way,
the other
lot,
I don't remember
who was an
other person,
who was the
question,
oh, Charles,
not going to
be a Budab,
he was like,
when in the
carriard
of Chavis,
he not
bijou,
he not
a lot,
you think
that's what you
do you
is a sign
of what?
It's a signal
to keep
a little
things,
creating,
that was he's
he created,
and he
responded,
these narratives
that say,
P, Charles
not will
not even to
be able to
end up
one, because
not be
the Charis
an adversary.
I think
the more
the fruit is
that the
most levered
that's a
part of,
so we're
a general
he's a
number one, he's
the campion
so,
so the
guys are trying
to sell
the lute,
and
trying to
try it's
is trying,
I don't know
if in the
mind of them
they'd also
they'd be in the
mind of them
the psychology of
the Charles,
it's a thing
the charles is
a thing,
the charles is a
guy that's a
he passed,
A lot of the team
Manda.
So, really I
see this band
of bobozeer,
but it's part
of their show
of their show
of their
they're going to
this way,
the Khabi
me too,
always was a
super silencioso,
always was a
kind of
never said,
never said,
it's just
it's,
it's just a
way to
to promote him
to the
show that
they're doing.
I think that
really,
so,
it's always
the responsibility
of them
all over
things,
we're all
we're always
more
tranquill,
we're
we're always
more adapted
everything he
said,
it's all the
good to
win to make
more to work.
So,
we're doing
the work
our job as well
the job
always they're
doing this
better than
you're more
for you're
more than you
get to get us
gain,
no more
with him.
With a
more Charles
will show
his name
to the world.
Let's the
guys say,
when the
guys say,
he's
preoccupy
control and
control and
the child,
the charles
he's preoccup
and that
he's to
he's to
much the
Marchevi
as the
task the
career of Charles.
The Charles, he's
he's just
he went to
the FIC,
he never
was treated
like any of the
way, he's
got to the UFC
against the
first thing,
get the worst,
get the Daryne
Elkinski, yeah,
he's the best
the bestories,
the category of it,
and Relyt
with three
lute in UFC.
You see
the Marachev
in what
ranking,
if you were
ranking,
if you were
the adversaries
the other than
he's actually
he is, you
know, the
number one,
or you see
that some
the adversaries
the Chalys
infronted
today are
more complicated
to decifrar
and confront
than he
question.
It's difficult to
answer this question
because I think
that's the
evidence, it's
the guy more
more studied,
is the guy that
all the
world,
the world
want to be a
place that
all the
whole of the
fight with
the fight
will be more difficult,
it's more
more than
the Chalels
vence,
the more
the chance
the
people, you
know,
so stabilize
where we
we're we're just like
it's like it's a video game
there.
Every hour that you
terminate a chefan,
the next phase the champs
is the poor.
So in the
fact, it's
difficult you
compare the athletes.
Because I think
all of them
have their qualities.
The Schlander
is a guy,
in my opinion,
it's a man,
is a man,
a guy who's awesome
a guy,
batte forth,
you know,
the poria,
the is very
technical, you
know, we know
that the hand
he was a redondin
there was a
great, you
had a,
poor,
had a,
there was a
great,
a great,
oh,
car to brie the time
whole,
not under the
way to end up
a year,
you know,
McCathev,
for more
that he never
had to be
the top five,
for more than he
not he's not
not that he's
not that
not it,
because the NFC
only has
a car
d'n't
the event
number one of
the world
because they're
the
men,
he's got
with many
the top
d'clock,
you know,
maybe he
had even
he had
even,
he had been
the fact of
the cabib,
for the
Cibibibu
Fah tab
because the
maybe he was
the Dariuzh
not see, you
know, you know?
So,
so,
but really,
the Khabi,
the Makathev
is a man
a man,
a guy who
is a good
in-pets,
have a good
game,
he's a good
Jiu-Git-Sys
also, he
does that
those,
he says,
good Jiu-Gitzo,
but the
Makathev has
Jiu-Gi-Sys
and then,
an friend of
a new-Gi-Gi-Tos
with him,
he said,
he said,
he told,
he's a good-J-Git-S-T,
and so,
and this my
my friend was
my friend was
Jiu-jitsu, you know?
So, so,
really, in my opinion,
the adversarial always
will be more
difficult.
This is normal, it's the law of
life, and for that
the child's always
always is always
you're going to find
the Charles better than
yesterday.
And also, for
example, the Charles
of 10 years
after he strew
the FC against the
Rhone, the
gap between
him, the CERone,
was a gigante
was he was a
Rone, the Mille,
had a lot of
now, the Charles
had 10 years
experience in the
FC, the champion
has been
a castada of
So, the
better that
be the
distance between
them would be
more, because
the Charles
is very better
than the Charles
who's the
veteran who's
I'm in fact
I'm saying, I'm
just going to
ask you to
make a question
me say the
guys more difficult
Michael Morizzii
is,
I think it
Sarukh
in the other
the other
the other
the man
he went to
you're doing
you're not
those mercein
you know
now you
know,
At least the
Dubeida,
because you don't know
exactly
The Chalice is
who you're
who you're going to
top three
right here
you have to
choose the three
many people
and think that
this guy here
is the more
really,
yeah.
And with Charles
you have to
think to
think that
who you can't
this is a
difference
is nitty
what you
what you
I've been
I've interviewed
for example
Zeldo
these days
and he
said he
he said
that he
he thought
that the
Arnold
oh Charles
but he
he thinks
that he thinks
that he
he thinks
what you
what you
in the game
he said he has
Jiu-Ditson Benel,
he, not just
wrestling, not
not so Sambu.
What he does
on the show
that's the
car he's,
that's the
game of Khabib,
that's all
they have,
it's a game
of pressure
very good,
a game
that goes to
stabilize
for the same
there, I
think he's
that one of
the motives
that he
wanted to
that was this,
because
maybe if he
put to
any other
other other
other
the judge
maybe
might be
to make
to be
to be
he might be
a lot
entire
over
the
he doesn't
go
or are in-pe,
so,
I think,
all of them
all of them,
all of them,
have this,
this shan of
pressure,
so that's,
all,
all know,
everyone knows the
shone of the
Charles.
I think I
don't need
about the
show of Charles,
right?
I think,
I think,
we can't
have a
parameter
there,
uh,
of both of
the chans,
is a guy
that's a
roaded,
yeah,
got,
there's a
lot of Jiu-Git,
there's a
multi-tub-
submission,
he is a
a
kind,
So, Charles, he is a
tall of the UFC.
He is a lot of
a lot of finalisadeau
he's a more finalizer,
is the guy with more finalisadour,
he's a guy with a while
he's a lot to be the guy
for the guy
to remember the story
to make a five top five
in one year.
So the guy,
he's a guy,
he's a record,
he's number one at all.
So, you know,
so I'm a guy
Chal of McAchev is good.
Of course the Chal of Macathev is a good.
If you were not,
he'd be a lot of the game
also the guy's talking about
a matchchchive also,
the Wassel of Lackchia,
he also is good, you know,
so the Chalice is better, in all those
areas. In your
in your area, in what area
that he finalizes this Lut? You think he
will be in the potter?
I think the, I
know, the Lutucoa,
so, it's what I
say, I don't see exactly
where the Lutte, because
the Chalmers comes in
in a place, then I'll bechal, you know,
caught, I'm going, if he was
caught, I see him picking. You know,
if the Lutta was going to start in
to the joel, the Chald was,
but as a lot started in
feet, like, and the
Charles is a potent of a
total of the recout, it's absurd.
And not what I'm
talking, you know, you're going to be,
the proper gate,
said that nobody
macho, and
both he,
and the proper
Charles macho was in
a little time,
so, so,
so he can't
know, the Charles
knows, the
Chalves,
know, the chalves
can't,
he doesn't
a goal, he
bat, he fights,
he soca,
he chuta,
he's a force,
he's got to
the contravella da
hand,
he'll be,
he, poor,
the bitch,
he's batting
much,
he's been
a lot of porrada,
I've already
about this
of his
he's probably
that it's
pasted, you
know,
all the other
he's
like if
nothing that
if anything
it's
so it's
like,
it's like,
I'm like the
way,
I'm playing
in play with
Charlie's
and then
obviously
the focus of
your
but it's
even the
Charles
has said
that's
that's
the objective of
gain and
look to
the UFC Rio,
for an
until I
feel like
I'm
something to
the
Glover just
not going to put the centauron in the
way, I'm going to split up to
the centauron, because the
lot of his work for December.
We have the Davidson
infrethamorne by the fourth
time. For the moment,
none of Amanda Nunes.
So I think there would be a ceres
in the bowl,
which would be the charles
to puttow in the
game in the game.
You think it's viable
because the janela
is short,
are just three months.
The Charles
would have to
wince this
this is a lot
on 22 and
say without a
ranion to
to beendar
to end up
in the new
camp.
Cabea of
you,
it's possible
doing
The fans
can't
see the Chalice
here in
New New New York?
With certain
I don't
have been
about this
now,
our focus is
the Luka
now is a
Cachev, no
has nothing to
our head
other than this
but I'm totally
for sure,
for sure,
I think the
fans can't
I think the
chance to try
this victory
that we're going
to bring this
victory,
I think the Chalz
is this
Ceregia
that the ball
no needs
So if God
want to do
do everything to do
do you know
I think the
I'm sure
sure we're anxious
here many years
there's a lot of
many people
salivating for
for a card
of a piece
and have the
Charles
that is today
the most
the main
in the
MA
would be a
adition
very well
to this card
of him
I'm
I'm thank
you thank
you very
thank you
we're
a fuse
horated
a full of
a lot
different
but thank
much
attention and good
good sorts of
these last few
days of
preparation for
the fight with
the fight with
I'm at the
time I'm here
I'm here at
the position
I'm here
when I'm going to
respond to
this is a
disposition and
the point of the
positive and everyone
is all the
people are in
the end up
the porrada
and put to
Brazil what is
nobody will
get to
nobody
there's
there
to Charles
partying in
bus to the
cunturon
in theory
even is
of his centuron, Peasolev, the UFC,
with the journalist of Mahathev and Abu Dhab,
how is it being the expectation
after a train,
a camp that this
was more focused on your area,
that you, the
specialist, in the
sports, when the
the issue is wrestling,
how is the
expectation of
see the Charles
putting in practice,
all the time he trained
all the long of these
last months.
So, man,
there's only,
First, this is a lot that
everyone knows that is different with the other
because the adversary moved,
the adversary is more than the other,
he's a chato, the game of wrestling,
that's very strong,
he is a friend with a champion,
before he, of Charlie,
Rabib, no, Madh.
He has a lot of experience for the
the
we're not
right now
but
I've got
very wrestling
of Charlie
for this
fight, I'm
sure that he
will give
a shock
for everyone
he's
the guy
is a
better better
in the
trocaation
but
there's
in the
base
of his
jiu-jitsu
which is
the Jiu-N
is very
common
he is
to a
little to
go to a
adversaries
they're
Bittal
go to
the chan
with Charlie
knowing that he is
so perigoso in this area.
But the Marathev,
other than to be a guy
with good finalizations,
he has the wrestling.
This type of
game is the base
of his,
so he would
be doing out
the principal
the arm of his.
How is it
was different
for you have to
have to work
in a game
if you
imagine that
never did
that ever
never did an
defense of
how it was
to work
this on
Chaves?
Because normally
when the
guy
Tenta
Kedars,
and the Charles
the charges,
the Chalrys,
and this
not
not so
good,
so go to
the chan
by the
guy with a
man,
so I'm
so I'm
a lot of
different.
Because the
the game of
the car,
the games
in the
middle,
if you
have a
box,
or Maitaik,
box,
so they're
in the
footer of
Jiu-Jus
just when he
gets on
the chan.
But if
this,
the leader,
the leader,
the leader,
the
wrestler,
wrestling.
The wrestling,
when he
lute a
guy
that's
a
guy,
he's
he's
a good
he's not
he's not
he's
going to
try,
but
this
this is the
Charlie,
because the
Chalve
has
mal
pesada
then
the
guy has
a
stress
for this
for this
thing
the
the
I've evolved very
But the guy
He's not with
He's not with a
MEDA by
Because
everyone
has been the
Lutta
of his
He's
Hevolved
very Jiu-Dice
of him
Because I
have
some other
Some
He's
He's
in the
Katina
He's
He's a
Pachita
Jiu-Gits
He says
Pha Jiu-Sah
He said
that
Islam is
very good
Jiu-Gitz
So
there
but he
certainly
he uses the
a game of his
wrestling
he's a certain
he's a
sure he's
going to
get to
get up
to get
to control
after
it's got
round
and gain a
round
then
then the
but the
we've
already
we've done
a
wrestling
with Charlie
will
do you
do
the game of
Islam
and
to break in
what you
think he
he's
the game
the game
of his
game
of
We have enough that the Charlie no
Khae, he also, he deruble the Islam.
If he came to the
Islam, to go to the
guy who dressed like Korniore, like Rabi Magmaidou,
when he came to the ground,
John's also,
then I almost had the game of his.
The other, when he quaver the game of his,
and then, the head of his head was a mal,
Well,
you think
the Charles
putting the
Islam to
down to
is a
thing that
can affect
mentally
the Rachev?
So,
we have
this agenda
also,
that's the
Charlie,
if there
some opportunity
of the
year,
he'll
put up to
the chan
also.
And,
and talking
about the
evolution
of Charles
in the
area of
wrestling,
you
who's
in many
years,
how is
how you
have you
have seen
have seen
now that you're doing a camp more focused specifically in this area.
How is the wrestling of the Charles today
is compared to Western of Charles when you prelucked with him
for the first time?
So, it was four years ago that I started in a shoot-box.
In fact, the wrestling of Brazil is very frako.
For example, the Russian Japanese, that's called Judo,
the Brazil is very strong.
But if the wrestling, Racine, Reindeer,
is a Russian-Legro-Lew, the Brazil is frake.
So for that he was the
Lutador of
Brazilian,
the Lutador
of Brazil,
the quater
when he
deruva,
he's very
strong.
The Atlette's
the Swiss
Spock is the
last four
years ago
after this
after the Swiss
Box,
I've got
very
George and
the first
day is
it's easy,
not it's
not far, but I
can't
difficult for me
the Deneuze is
the same
thing,
the same
thing. Tomas Ahmed, the same
thing. Tomas Ahmed, the
last last night, he
deroged, he
he didrobo,
uh,
he, he
he, he,
he, he,
he, he drove all
the,
the other,
the other,
he,
stabilized,
and got a
the
battle,
I've only
very,
because we
have done a
, we've done,
a lot,
, a lot,
and you,
you've seen
the,
the,
he,
did,
He's a lot of
his
his way to
his right to
go to
go to
he's not
also
he's
he's
he's
he
think that
this is the
battle
you know
you're
you know
in the
jiuits
you
think he
he finalize
no ground
pound
and
when you
when you
when you
after you
when you
when you
visualizes
this
lot
when you
this
last
this
this is a lot, if Charlie will
derby, if Charlie
he gets him,
80% Charlie will
get him. But I think
this a lot, the third round
will be in the, Charlie
will not cutia
him, or pick
or will gain
for 5 rounds per point.
He will gain this.
And just for we can't
finish, the Alexander Volcano
who is the champion, Pesopena,
who has said, he said,
I can also announce on Twitter that he will be a voter reserve,
in a case or with Charles or with Marathev.
In a scenario of the autosk who entered as a substitute
of Marathev, how you see the game of the Quedars?
He was a guy much more bashingo,
than the Marathev and,
is that tronquin, a guy more but very strong,
there's a good efficient in trocaation,
but there also the game of wrestling,
the game of wrestling, how you
analyze it?
He said,
but I imagine that you don't
have studied the
game of his
during the Gangton,
but how you,
what do you
know what you
would like
would be in a
possible
a lot of the
two?
What you
say, he
is he's going to
talk with
Charlie?
No, the
Volcanovsky,
is that
he's in front
the charles,
you know?
So,
this what I
said,
this that
is,
the champion
is
six and
he's very
good,
very,
very,
mal,
It's a lot of d'Hawr, but this part of Jocene, this guy,
that's good wrestling, will derrida.
Lutter of him with Charles Mendez,
if you're, if you're, if you're,
Charles Mendes, he, when he's got, not bad.
Then, Charlie will fight with him,
the first one, the most of the most,
then, then, then, then, then,
then he, then, he'll, then,
It's very easy for Charlie.
For the child, it's very
easy.
Because you think he is
easy for the Volcanoves
because the Vokanavs
not this category?
You think he's
a little?
Very,
very fast.
The Trachial is
very fast, this guy.
So the better
for Vokalovs is
to be in 6.
M.A.
Yeah,
that's,
he's,
he can't be
to encounter a problem.
This,
yeah,
we don't
think,
for this with Charlie,
but
what you
this guy
for Charlie
is very
very fast
he's
very far
with wrestling
wrestling
wrestling
that's
wrestling
in reality
now
now
Charlie
I'll
learn
a wrestling
of
he
he's
he's
he's
a
round
the first round
he will
end
this guy
he's
he's
a lot
fechard with
this guy
you
you know
you're
the lot
more difficult
he's
he's
In the M.A? Or you see someone that would be a
a challenge for him in terms of style of the game?
How, so he's, he?
He's going to use the course of the game, Islam?
You're going to say?
You know, you think the Islam, he is the
adversary more complicated,
by the style of the game,
for the arms that he has.
He is the adversary
more complicated for Charles,
or you see in the MMA,
someone who would have a
game that would be more complex for Charles
to confront.
No, no, I just said that this is
adversary of Charlie,
more complicated than
everything.
The Charlie
will pass
there,
then the other
adversary
of Charlie
not is
very important
no.
Because Charlie
not has
with a
problem with
judicious,
not with
a guy
of bomb
boxing,
a guy
of mitai,
kickbox.
So,
now that
Charlie,
but
everyone
think that
the
people
who,
the,
the
the guy
the
The Torses of Islam,
but say that Islam
will get the Charlie,
how will
get him,
he'll be able to
him,
but Charlie,
I've got to
the Charlie,
I've got
very diresting,
very,
very,
will give a shock
for all the
world,
Salute,
Day 22,
let's see.
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with Kayo Borrallio
who infrented
Muradov
in the FC
of Abu Dhabi
too,
Fabricio Andrade
John Linnickar
who
confronts
the centuron
the gals
of the
championship
in the
and Cleber Coeck
Brazilian
who lute
who lute
for the
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It's a few days of
out of
a man
more one
one of the
FC,
embaled by
four victories
in October,
two of them
for the FC
after the
two of the
two
came to
the contendor
how is
the expectative
anxiety
to make
now the
your
start in
other
the other
park
to do Apex
to do
do that's
with a
public
for the
first
in the
first
about
the
so
I'm
so I'm
really
so much
so much
Card, the
major card
of the year,
as I
always used to
talk about,
I used to
think I'm in
a FCC,
I swen in
to play in
the great
arenas,
with the
people,
with the
people,
with the
energy of the
public,
of the fans,
and,
oh,
it's got to
the pandemic
then the
end up
the Apex,
Ikekeke
the team
that's a
good,
but I'm
very happy
to be
to be this
opportunity
that,
it's a
opportunity
that's a
to be in a event with a
tourcida and see this energy
there. I think,
with certainly,
it's just me
potentialize
for more
a victory, if I
want a bit of course
if I'm
a lot of
especially the
people who are
in the country
to the Jiu-Gitzo
to go to the
United,
you know,
you think the
climate will be
favorable to
you,
the reception
of the
people,
or you think
there will
have more
people who
Tajii that
in this
lot there?
Yeah,
In fact,
for me,
I think it
will be
maybe a
more favorable
than for the
guy,
to the guy
there's
for the guy,
there's
there's a
too russo
there too
so I don't
know in what
those
the other
the russes
going to
be talking
I'm
saying that
there's a
lot of
Muradov
with the
guy
there's
with the
people
there
and then
now
now
now
I think
that will
be
more more
more
more than
more
you're
You will get the
the tourcate of the
Brazile and the
Torcev, too
everyone to
your favor
against Muradov.
Exactly.
It's very good.
I'm going to
be a favorite in a
lot of the
way, and have the
top of the
more pressure on
more on him and
make him pay.
This will
be your first
with the public
to fact,
right,
since the
times of the
future.
It's two
years,
I'm practically
is a very
because of the pandemic, and
now the
school of
the Fight Night
always in
the APEX.
What do
that's the
mind?
I don't
see if
a gas
a more
in the
time of the
lot of
you know,
that the
people are
getting that
energy,
what is
that you
do you
do that you
feel in these
years,
for not
put not
not able
to count
with this.
Yeah,
I think,
I even
I just
I just
I'm,
I'm a fisson
to me
know
more,
to know how
I'm going to
react to
and the last
time that I
don't know
the public
even in a
area that
was a lot of
it was in
a MFC
if I'm
mean,
and there was
a lot of
the gymas
was a
entry,
the car
lot were the
guys loted the
gymasio
but I
got a
time
without a
time,
so I'm
to be
to be
more
to know
to know
more and
I'm going
to be
being
a lot
the
my entry
the
to the arena,
she's
a lot of
people.
I've
visualized
this
all the
days,
because then
we don't
get a
big a
time,
it's not
a lot of
that I'm
if I'm
risked,
I think that
it's
my potential
to a
way very
very far,
I believe
that I
know I'm
so I'm
going to
get more
more potentialized
to this
than the
other.
That's
the LUT
of the
MFC,
you
finalized
in less
two
minutes.
This type
of you
are visualizing
also,
I mean,
he's going to be
kind of a matter,
but I'm sure
I'm going to see rapid,
but I'm going to befriending a victory
and not letting for the judge,
it's a thing that I'm going to be
cobting for having my two
last few last few times of the judges
in the hands of the juice,
apesad of having been totally
dominant and to have
I'd have certain that I would
wince the
decision, but
this time I'm
talking about the
last to be able to
the last of the
last time
I'm going to
a victory of the
finalization or
or if he'd
get some armadile
there's a
car in a
world of the
when the name
of the guy
termin in Oven
we just know
we know that's
not going to
be a sequence
of victories
very great
and it was
being finalized
in the
last for Gerald
Mischart
which is a
a guy very
very good
also, a guy
very
good,
especially in a
job of the
show,
not a guy
not a
bad bobeera
in this area
there,
what do you
make the
most do you
know,
he was a
excellent sequence of
victories,
three in the
UFC,
to try to
try to
try to
what he
does that
he does that
put,
he has
to be
a part of
this part of
this
part of
a bobeer.
He is a
kind of
he's a lot of
he says
he's,
he's like
he's
he's overhand
of his
he's
knockout show, various
guys.
I think that
maybe this
is the major
arm of his,
he's a guy
very experienced,
more of 30
luts,
the guy more
more experienced
that I'm
going to be
in my career.
But I think
he never
never even
a guy who
movement,
the way to
the way to
the way,
the guys
that are
more
with him are
going to be
a lot of
the lot,
he will
be a lot of
the
but it's
the great
scheme with
the
great scheme with
the
is not
the whole. He is a
guy fast to
read, but normally
for he's
easy to read, the
guys are perked a concentration and
I'm going to be
not set out, he
ends, he ends up
that way from
nothing of him. So I'll be
be very attentive in this. I
know that I will continue
to read him fast, but
my attention will be
during the 15 minutes if
if I want to
say to this victory.
You, since
the Antoro, in the
time of the Contender, you
say that you are the
guy who will
to do
do the
category of
the middle
that's
that's the
way to do
the world
to do you
know the
there's a
division that's
a division
full of
you're going to
be a lot
for not
not a fight night
for being
no one
any of the
other paypev
the year?
With
certain
I think that
this is the
life
that my life
pass to
another
partarm
as quite
of hype
as the
people who
will be talking
of me
the
I think they're
more eyes
for this event
for being one of the
year of the
year of the
year for you
did it's a
car of numerated
with paper
view.
So I think
it's a lot
to pass
to a
patamar and
I think I'm
matureceded and
I'm done
for this
new phase
of my
life,
it's a
thing I'm
if I
if God's
will be
going to
be able
and the
way you
preve
that you
can be
who you
think you
will be the
next
pass?
You think
you
might be
to move
to patamar
in this
sense
to paris
to confront
the ovies
the world of
the Ruezhev
now Moradovi
and get
a guy that
be more popular
in the States
to get a
ranky-a
yeah,
to be very
sincere,
Guizan,
I don't
have a
much much
I'm not
a lot
to look
in the
ranking,
I think
to do
more this
and maybe
more one or
two
out of
running,
put to
a money
to get a
important
to have
the event
so,
the time
you pass
the
time you pass
you do, involving
all the preparation,
all the entombed the
world,
you evolve a lot,
you evolve much
with a person,
as a plet,
and I want,
I want to see my
way to a little,
devalc,
doing all the
that needs to
get to get
to get to
maturcese.
Obviously,
the last
I'll ask,
the last month,
I think it's
a lot that
can't
a lot much
with my
style,
but he
has,
just recused
the
lot,
just will
do you
will be
a lot,
and,
and,
in real,
I didn't
I've been saying much in who I will
but I'm going to be
going to go up to
go to go ahead and I'm in 30sum of
the world
the Muradov is in 25th
so I'm going to be in 25th
so I'm going to be front
so I want to
try to stay in my front
in a rank,
it can be the 20th,
19 and then
a little bit of
I'm going to be lisking
the top 15,
and then
to get to my
objective final
that is being
the champion in the world
and that's
that many people
don't know I
I want to
I'm just
start on the
C and just
to get a
ranking
if you
will get a
bolsa
that you
are getting a
this is a
here that I'm
here that I'm
going to
end up
the number five
of the world
getting a
$20 and
for you
get to get much
more,
no,
the point of
the point of
business,
not an
intelligent
that's like
a
kind of
so it's
a soul
don't want
to be
so much
and
you know
I'm
a man I
am a
man I'm
I'm a
man, I
see
about
about the
business
I know how it's
I know how it's
how it's a game
there.
And I'm
saying that I
don't say I
don't say I'm
a lot of Rankingado
but I'd
have a Lutta
with a Ranking-A
if they'd
give a
big more than
I receive
today, so
I don't have
a little bit of
little bit of
this victory,
it's the third
Lutta of
the contract,
if I'd
just to re-enovar
the contract
with a
a boss a
good,
is what I'm
doing the
time all
and then
and then,
and then,
and then,
starting to
the guys
positions of the rank. But the real is that this
division, even the 20th
there's guys very good,
it's very difficult
this division of the Paisos
are very rankied, are very
dynamic, some of the people perivosa.
The proper Magadzeev
that was the preant of the FC, P, was 13-0,
Invicto, is champion
world of Sambo. There, there's a
Petrosian who had made a putt a putt
luta with Gregorhop, which now
is coming very well, the guy
also, the champion
world of kickboxing
so,
not can
say that
it's a
life
not,
but I'm
a fine
to take my
time,
you know,
to be
to be
the way
and do the
best for not
not
to be
not
to be
a
time
Fabrice
how is
the
expectative
to
finally
have the
chance
to the
end of
the
one
now
a
something
you
have
been
battling
in
a
much
this
opportunity
and
And now, finally,
go there.
Not is the Bibianno,
that was the champion
during the time,
it's the
liniker,
who's with the
signetor
now,
no court chow
Bibian,
how is,
the emotions
there,
a few,
just to say
in the hand
and to
get the
signoron
to come to
back,
I feel,
I feel like,
it's normal
for me,
you know,
because it
has been
so that I
put to
the sturon,
but I,
I did a lulte
a lute
against the
,
the guy
the guy more
the
category
since when
he
migrower
from he
I just knew
I'm in a lot of
you know, I just knew, I just knew, I'm at least, I'm at least, I'm, that's not, I'm, that's the way, I'm not, you know, and so. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., I'm sure, you know, the game. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., yeah, in-certainly, in, in certain, I'm a
I think that even after I
get him, he still
still being the guy
more than I, in O'Ne.
So I just visualized
he's being a champion.
So this was one of the
mostives that, after my
premiere, in O'Ne, he was the first
guy that I paid to fight, because I
I'd have advised him, being
a opponent for me in the future.
I remember of the
having to have you, just before, you
doing post on the radio social,
saying that, you know,
you felt that he was
having to make a
way to make a comming
a way to make a
whole lot of
and you were in
the car chottie
and you
didn't know,
you were a lot
that he evitable
so,
so,
I don't just
I didn't just
I didn't
have responded
all the
times that I
did he,
he never
responded
when he was
he was
he was
he was
when he was
the Koreanian
he
responded
but he
I've I'd, I'd, I'd have he'd many of the times that I'd
him.
Even when I was trying to all the time in the world,
I believe that he'd just knew that I was the guy who'd
to fight by the centuron, but even as, he tried to
get another lute.
At the time that was I and the Korean, to fight for the
Citroon, he accepted the
question of the Korean, but not accepted the
and what happened to what I had to be to
with a Korean, before to fight with him.
So, for certain, he was evitating the
Lutta, trying to try and possibly
defend his throne against me
because, as I said,
even after that he was going to be
he still, being the guy more d'Ur,
I believe that there's another person
to gain of him in a moment.
This does you give
a more confidence more
to you feel that you were a
guy that he evitably?
Maybe he
He respects
Demise
Demise
Demi
He's
To be a
Yeah,
I'm doing
To say
You know,
this guy
He's a
Pacheh
He's
He's
He says
You
You know
You pass
A sentiment
This
But I
No, I'm
Magerer
But,
My style,
Yeah,
My style
Yeah,
It's very complicated
for
He,
because he's
a guy
That is
very
Previsive
It's a
He's
He can
He can't
He
I try those cruises
and let's try to knockoutier
because he
can't
nocotee
but he's
a man
impervisible
and when we
see the
my style
I'm a man
very imprevisible
nobody knows
what I'm going
to do you
can't
know how much
the
the fight
soco
the clovelo
so I do
so I do
the control
of distance
is very good
and for
I have
the advantage
a advantage
much great
in the
invangaturedura
is a lot
horrible
for him.
You're two
no-caltiators
but of
styles
completely different
he's a
guy who
he's a
pat-a-
have a
hand very
heavy
to get a
derrubba
and you
be the guy
that's
a job
that's
you're a
joelated
and you
think that
you know
the,
the
your
imprevisibility
is what
that
makes
that lot
that's
that I'm
I think
I'm
I'm
a lot
more
intelligent
in the troca.
I'm more intelligent than he.
My time is different.
So I will get to use the
the major form,
the major
arm of his,
because because,
as he
very from
I can use exactly
this time
to knock out of his
joel to his
and if he's
not in the distance
I don't have any chance
because he is very
so he will have to
have to enter to me
to get to me
to get, and when he
enter, the
my time is very
good, so
it's a lot
that for him
no, it's
a lot of he
doesn't have,
or he gets
in the distance
and get in
and he goes to
and he goes to
and he
and what you
think you
think you
get to
especially the
way you're
talking,
you're
dominating him
in the
pan,
calteando he
what do you
think that
says about
you, about
your story
about your
story in
the man,
is a
It's a filerang on all the
career
there's a career
there
even in
the MMA
but you
just are in
fielerating
everyone
no one,
going to
get to
knockoutial
the guy
that knockoutio
the guy
that was the
division during
the time
what you
do that
what you
just about
you know
not so
no one
but in
the world
I'm
going to
me put on the
most
the
pesugal
of the
world
and this
is the
this is the
reason
not so
the centuron
he
is the
he is the
don't
the
certain
I want
to be a champion, but this was the
major reason that I
wanted to be able to
be able to fight with him even before he's
because I know the name
he has, and I know
what a victory is over him
dominant him, will
do with my career, because
after this, all the world, will be
around the world and will reconnoisse
the level that I'm talking.
He's a player who has a number
very great, outside of Asia,
for having a career a long
in the UFC,
confronted by some
the best of the
UFC
but he
he just got
to get a
centuron of him
he not defended
even you
think that
getting him
knockalteing he
is possible
that Juan
do one make a
revanch
immediate or you
think he
not has a
reignado
that justifies
this
digamia
so he
would have
to
even you
considering
he the more
the more
doing the
division
you
getting to
the champion
but
even
even to
even he
for you,
the more
the more
do you
think he
it's,
you know,
a revanch
immediate,
he will
be a
or he will
have to
go out to
get to
get to
the right to
do not.
It's like,
we can't
get the
Bibian,
also have
the Steve
Loma,
who was
champion of
Brave,
that also
is the
number three,
that's
he's still
but is
what I
said,
I think,
I,
I'm going
the
he,
I believe
that there,
I believe,
to do
do a revanch
immediate
maybe
could be
an option
for certain
just for
you can't
you make
a camp
all right
in Thailand
in Thailand
in a Tyre
which is a
team
who is
full that
is recheated
of the
M.A.
Not so
the Asia
but
the people of
FC
that will
train
direct
there and
how is
how it
you do
how it
you can
ferro
ferro
you're
training with
the
world
how is
how it
can you
help? Who are your
your
are your
most important
in the day
to do you
do you
do you need to
to get to
your level
so?
Yeah,
the tag
was a
academy that
received a
lot of
different
promotions
so,
so especially
in the
beginning,
it was
very important
to be
training with
guys
like
Peterian
that was
the
champion of
the
so I
think
especially
in the
first
in the
first of
my
career
it
was
it
in accordance
the level
that I
was in
this I
could be able
to get
in vows
even more
so I think
especially
in the
first of
my career
this was
very important
and
still
still
training
here but
now I
prefer
I prefer
to
make the
my train
more
for
the
most
the
people of
there
many
people
who come
and
come
to do
come
and
I
prefer
my
training
more
with the people that I
know the people that I know
some of the
friends, but in the
beginning of my career,
with certainty, it was very important
to train with these names
to me give this motivation
to recognize the level that I'm
when you're doing.
When you dis-fecharging,
in your circle of confidence
and stuff,
is, there,
there was some thing that
you motivated,
to say,
no, I think it's
that from now,
I think to do
do it, it's better?
It's much people
coming here.
What was the
gatil there
what you did you take this decision
to be
to see the
start more
because I'm a
very competitive
right,
I'm very
very competitive
so,
so I'm very
so I want
the first
I want the
first,
I'm the
so,
so,
I went to
the spa
and there
three,
four,
four people that
I didn't
know,
I'd be the
same category
of events
different,
and I'd
go and out
and out of
all the
whole world,
I'd
try to not
all
people,
but
like,
like now
I'm in
other
level
I don't
want to
risk of
my risk of
to be
the risk
to have
but I
know that
I'm going to
I always
will be
competitive
so this is
a cure
of me
and I
always
will say
in a
poor
I'm
going to
get a
risk of
having
these problems
I prefer
to do
my training
so
all the
sparring
now
are
people
selected
that
I
think
that make sense
as an opponent
that I will
look at
so I
call some
people and
do my spying
fechated
but to
be honest
for this
this is
very difficult
because
the Lina
is a
a guy
a
a guy
a guy
a
so it
was being
complicated
to find
good
spire
to
make the
good
to do
his
and say
that
the
people
especially
a guy
particularly a
person
to train with me
because I
macho
much a
guy of
the
so
for this
lot
it was
very
complicated
to get
to say
to say
that's
I imagine
that's
that's
what
obviously
you
help
to get
to get
to
don't
get to
get
in
training
but it's
something
when you
get
a
kind of
you know
that you
don't know
a guy
that you
have a
good
a good
you can
get in
a
it's, poor,
it's just
you're trying
and you're trying
and you're
in the world
you know,
you know,
you know,
but there's a
new,
when you enter
on the parado
the car,
he's got to
do a thing
that's just
to make a maldade
and it
force,
oh,
it's a lot,
say,
it's a
sort of,
yeah, it's,
it's a risk
and the fact,
to do that
taece are
an academy
abetta,
so,
so, there's
people there
people of other
academies,
there,
there's a
man,
there a man,
there a man
that,
that not
not are in the
same level
but they're
there's
there's
like a guy
they can't
be a person
for the name
that person
has been
you're going to
test there
so everyone
want to train
with you
and everyone
want to see the
level that you
know that you're
that's
that was the
case for
me
actually I
I saw
I saw
Peter and
I saw
I'd like
I'd try with
them to
see the
level
that I was
but today
I'm the
I'm the
car that the
guy
want to
see
to test
so
I'm
going to
sparring
open
I'm
do
much
possibility
to
have
lesion
to
do
do
make
a
because
I know
I
don't
I don't
I don't
I'm
so I
know
I'm going
to
get in
a
poor
so
so
it's
more
a
preserve
as
as
as
as
as
another
other
also
also
is because
there
the character of my category
that will train
here,
you know,
so it
can be possible
opponents in the
future.
So,
for this
reason,
I prefer
prefer to make
the sparring
in,
and I'm,
even,
I always,
always,
I always,
I always
try those sparring,
try to
alternate,
even for this
camp,
so many people
came in the
first sparring,
and I
didn't want
in the
second,
because I
took the
the joveil, no
I'd want to
do this
alternative to
spa, but I
try to
selectioner
more the
people who
come to spy,
you know?
And with this
joel
that you see
getting into
Lyrica?
I think the
joint,
with the
knee, but
I don't,
I don't have
a arm
that I'll
say, ah,
this will be,
because I'm
going to
put a chute,
I'm going
to go to
go to
shoot, I
go to give
the first round,
I'm going to
be able to
to go out-chia it, but I don't have
a arm specific
that I think that this will work
no, because I'm going to play all, I'm sure that
everything, but, with certainty,
absolutely, the joel
will make me much.
John Lineker,
there, there, caught on the
cinturion of the Ampe by the first time
against Fabrice O'Andrade.
How is it the expectative? How is it?
How is this camp?
The first camp, as a champion
of the Ant-Chryphist. What did you
How did it, how is it
changed in your preparation,
have this
extra in the
arms?
Yeah,
the expectation
are the
best things are
the best
my camp
was excellent
thanks a
God,
without lesions
no,
it was all
all 100%
and
and,
po,
something,
it's,
something for me,
uh,
is
defending,
uh,
the cituron,
I always was a guy who always
was a guy who's always
I'm always
I'm trying
something that I've got
I'm going to
so it's a new
for me
something I'll
know now
the sensation
of how it
to be able to
be defending
a title
but I'm
well focused
I'm well prepared
I've been
an excellent camp
you know
you don't
be a franco
artirator
to turn the
This
makes a
a little
with your
head
going to
the
because you
obviously
always will
be able to
wince
it's
the same
if you're
the same
the same
the
champion
but the
I'm
more in
the role
in the
lot now
because I
have this
centuron
that I
want to
come
how you
worked
how
how this
how this
how you
make
with you
how much
you
in these
months
for
the
battle
for
Fabrius
yeah
in
the
In the fact, I have to be a little more caltelous,
now, like, like, I'm not going
at the centero, so I don't need to be
risked much, so I'm, with, for sure,
now the thought is to be a little more calteloso,
more, more savvy, and more tranquil,
and always to be able to try the attack
that not right
not
not
go to
with all
like a
little bit
but I'm
always
my style
is this
but in
sure
now
as a
champion
I'm
will be
a little
more
more
more
more
more intelligent
how you
did you
do you
to balance
this
not be
so low
as you
know
that's
the
kind of
the
poorada
yeah
what you
always
you
always
you
more
more
something
in the
training
that you
It's just in aspect
technical, or is it just the same
posture that will move
a strategy a little?
Yeah, in fact, the
whole was in-cime of this,
the master,
not took my ipto,
that epit to be
up to up, but
me made a little bit more intelligent.
Like,
it's,
it's,
it's better the goaler,
not just going to
goop out of,
you know,
the camp was more
loted as soon,
looking
to attack the
more direct
than to be
going,
you're attacking
and attacking,
like,
like,
mannading
the ball,
yeah,
and the
your adversary is a
complete
opposite of the
last,
you know,
you know,
you in the
last month,
I'm in the
guy who
even has
a man
pesitzo
is the
main
the arm
of his,
you went
there,
he went
in the
court
did
he was the
first,
the
was the
first,
he
was the
to confront a
guy
that,
like you
are a
guy who
like to
try to
try to
a
point of
a lot
different
in a
but
he is
a
striker
as
like you
what
you
did
in the
camp
to prepare
for a
kind
different
compared
with a
time
with a
bit
yeah
yeah
yeah
in
I
I
I
I
that's a cement of Muay Thai,
there's a good shoot,
a good jailed,
so the difference
was that I
was that I
waskeed
anular
these points
of his point
to use my
box,
the best way
possible,
intelligent,
uh,
in this camp,
I don't
use a
defense
the,
the part of the
Muaytai,
but not,
not specific,
I'm attacking,
but,
anulando,
and,
attacking with the box.
I've
I talked with
Fabrice, he
said that
you have a
problem, obviously
dangerous in
the way,
with those
hands pesas
but I'm
less diverse
than the
game he has
more arms
to you attack
and that he
thinks that
Tinoquate.
How is you
think that
this
Lota Caba?
Yeah,
in the
lot of
two,
they have
this thought
I,
as I,
sobe there to one
to one,
and he'll
know the other
so he
has been in the same
but I
have been
certain that he
will be in
a victory
my victory
my victory
in the third
round.
Kleber Koi
will finally
have your
chance to
dispute the
ring
against the
Chico,
I think
an opportunity
I was
been a lot
I've been
I thought
I wanted
that was
you were
that the
event
you
made pass for more provaations, more
the challenges, but finally
came the chance,
how is the expectation
to get in the
future of a cintourn of
a grand event?
Well, man,
the expectation is one
of the best
me, I'm feeling
well, as I'm feeling
well, as
things happen
all in the time of
God,
it's a year,
day 23,
exact 23 of October
has a year
that was to
me had to
the title,
and I had a
a lesion.
Because of the
reason, I
can't
fight,
and he
lot to
my
place,
it was when
he
was a
first of
the
year,
man,
he got
a
year,
he put the
ring
one way
just for
the
game, but
I believe
in God,
I believe
in my
work,
and
after a
year,
I'll have
this
opportunity
to be
putting
to be
putting
you know
this one
year,
you have
to do
more
new,
he had to
gained
more
experience,
signalized more
people.
Yes, I
had to
do more
two
two last
two years,
in this
year,
my plans
were to make
more
other, I
had been
had to
have done,
in the
really,
I was to
be done
to get to
a month seven,
it was a
date that
had a
time that
I went to
out of
the United,
then they
then they were
my
lot to
a month
nine,
and I
went to
Japan, he'd be for May 9, it was all right,
the day 25 of 9,
the day that the Floyd and me,
Eden, Utokon, a Sakura.
And it was, he went
there, canceling the date,
and they're to be able to
a month 10 now.
But it was good.
I think, as I said,
it happens all in the time of God.
It's a time good.
I need to be
to train more.
I'm ready.
I'm ready to this
war.
The cintraum is our
song.
He put the cintrown
of the RISE
one one just,
but he's
the DIP,
too,
now that he is a champion of the two events.
What do you think you're saying
these last
performances of his
how do you think
how do you think
is this
case of this
conflict?
So, I
think he
has a,
he takes this
champion,
for being a
champion of
those organizations
as far as
as a
general as
as deep,
as you
mentioned
I,
I think
he is a
man
that me
preoccupue
because he
is a
guy that he
He's all the
Lutas
like the
last hours
so he's
a guy that
he's a
guy that he's
a man who
he's a
good athlete
he's complete
he's a
good
trocaation
there's
a good
to get
and a
non-o-of-key
but
no area
that I
really can't
so he
has a
merit of
being a
he's a
matter
he's a
bit of this
aura of
his area
but
I think
much in
my
work
I believe
much
that I
think I
I'm
to turn a champion.
It's a
guy that I,
like I don't
I'm like,
he's a guy who,
if I'm,
if he's
getting, that one,
he's going to be
a person, he will be
me pick, but he
is a mannedro
and he's,
he's a manned
maria,
go jogging on the
regra,
go going to
he's a point-oation,
so it's a
guy that, in the
first with him,
I'm going to
be a little
callelos,
but at the
same time,
I want to
I'm going to
have to put him,
I think
I think I,
I need to put him
one of the
once with the
cross on the
if I
put it in
he's sure that
I'm going to
get a
or I need to
connect a man
to make a
man to
move to work
exactly
exactly you
know,
because he is a
guy that
he's a
more metogic
more cerebral
of not
have precess
to do
cook in
Bahia
you're just
the contrary
that you
you,
it's
for this sequence
of
it's impressive
it's
impressive
people
all people
and
you're
incax the
position
comes
in
it's
in
a ballado
of a form
different,
right?
Yeah,
man,
thanks a
God,
there are
a marker
mine,
I'm going to
make a
matter,
and I'm just
not a mark.
And,
I'm sure,
I'm going to
be in a
minute,
so I live
into this
GP in
imaginary,
and I'm
not in
final,
now I'm
going to
get to
get this
final
then to
any
I'm
a little
finalization
as
it's
the other
other
other
he has this job of him,
I believe that he also never picked anyone
to my gabarita to be able to be the front with him,
I think he has this joke of his methodicals,
that he can't really, I guarantee him very, I'm gonna'
I can't get him.
So you're going to him, you pick the center and
the Risen. He, as I said,
champion of Risen and the DIP,
you would
go back him,
to get him, too,
or who knows,
he'd get the d'Ordrd in this
fight, and send him to
make him to put a shot in the JITP?
No,
the Jip, I don't
have more advantage,
I think,
the GANGA to do a
pass to back,
I have to
mirro, I have to
mirro new challenges.
He only is a
peter in my way,
that I want to chute
the point before.
The DIP,
for me,
not symbolizes
nothing
it.
Po,
I,
I,
like I
mean a
thing I'm
going to
go back
to the
thing that's
a new thing,
but also
it was a
little
my career.
So it's an
event
that I
have a
very
good,
good,
good,
good,
good,
good,
good,
so I
prefer to
look
to
front.
And it's
what I
say,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm in a
second
the,
five
victories,
consecutive,
and with the
guys,
that's the
RISE,
and the
he came in
in these
Lottie
D.
He even
didn't
do a little
little
a little
Ryser in
Risen,
along the Sarton,
that he
got a
silton,
he did a
really to
prove to
the RISE
even.
You said
that you
know to
go to Rydip and
a pass
a track,
what is
the time
to be the
champion of
RISEN?
Ah,
no,
Who knows, in the future, a lot of probella Tor.
Is to do great battles?
To do you do this, here in Japan, you know?
Who knows if you give a revenge for Sakura,
that he pared so.
And me, you know, those guys,
more rankeded, the people of garbarrito-major, you know.
I think so much in this.
And I'd have to give me the money, too, man,
that, which, unfortunately, today is the moda of the moment.
I, say, like, to, say, to, I'd, say, to be a YouTuber.
You can get a boxer,
is to do that,
do you do a lot, so, to do money.
The champion
Pes-o-Pena
of Bellator,
is the Patrice
Pitibu,
who recovered the
cinturon for the
way,
how is you
think would be
this confront with him?
Well,
it's a guy
that I respect
much,
it's a guy
a dure,
man.
I think he
is one of
the best
to the
world,
I think it would
be a good
rule,
the only thing
I think,
a piece
a piece of
a piece,
the first I
have this
my centurion, and then I'll think about my
my cintura, and then I'll
think in the future more.
Because it's a
guy that, boy,
is dispenser
commentar,
is a guy that,
it's a guy that, can
say we'll say that we
know, but it's a lot
that I have very respect.
And what he does
out of the,
for you're saying,
I think, one of the
best of the world,
the result of the
Sakura,
who recently
in preempted,
he recently,
What you thought of the performance?
If you, you'd say, you'd rather,
we'd say this tour of
of the luts against exhibitions,
and get a YouTuber here,
and a thing,
and the last few people were in Risen,
he picked two guys popular in Japan,
and knocked out of Dune.
You, you'd rather than this...
Of course, the Mayweather is a legend of the box,
it's the prairie,
but you'd,
you'd expect that he'd have a performance
better,
would more,
would be more,
I think that was a performance
good
of him
he's
like I
say,
lot with
with a
car
in the area
of his
I respect
to the
right,
for go to
go and
not to
not
to be
a guy
with a
manned
50%
zero
with
all the
story
that
has
there
has
my
respect
and I
don't
I
didn't
but I
think
what he
was
what he
could
he could
he
I think
that
more
more
other
I
know
I
even
I
in one of my
my own
my own
social,
I think he
was a little
too much
but in a
other
would be in
you're not
you're not
you're not
not much
so it's not
it's not
my respect
to go to
go and
to get to
go to
the area
I think
he's
man he
mann't
man he
man he would
not
being in the
person who he is
so the guys
doing this
as Sackra
did the
same as far
did the
guy has
my respect
and the
Floyd
and my own
I don't
I don't
take the
merit of
his
also.
I think he
he's
he's
all the
he could
have done
he's
a man
a man
that's
a man
that's
being
doing this
old chen
with a
YouTube
and doing
a
man but
I think he
is a
guy
that's
he's
not to
he does
just
just for
this
so
he could
have
made
in a
career
he did
he did
he did
he
did he
did he
did he
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