MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Exclusivo: Charles do Bronx comenta vitória, caos da pesagem e futuro no UFC

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

O campeão tem nome e o nome dele é Charles do Bronx, e é claro que o melhor peso-leve do mundo estaria no podcast Trocação Franca após sua vitória maiúscula sobre Justin Gaethje no UFC 274. Em bate-papo exclusivo, Charles comentou a finalização diante do provocador Gaethje, o desafio feito a Conor McGregor e desafios recebidos de Nate Diaz e cia., o que levou à perda do título na pesagem, e se já pode ser considerado o maior peso-leve da história do MMA. Guilherme Cruz fala, ainda, com Bruno Caveira, que enfrenta a lenda Anderson Silva no boxe, neste final de semana, em Dubai. Na estreia da sessão Fight Week, entrevistas com Amanda Ribas, Leo Leite e Wendell Giacomo, que lutam neste final de semana no UFC, LFA e Bellator. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The champion has a name and his name is Charles Oliveira, and he’d obviously stop by Trocação Franca to discuss his huge win over Justin Gaethje at UFC 274, his decision to call out Conor McGregor and being called out by Nate Diaz, what led to his title loss at the official weigh-ins, and whether or not he’s already the greatest lightweight of all times. Guilherme Cruz also chats with Bruno Machado, who faces MMA legend Anderson Silva in a boxing match this weekend in Dubai. In the debut of the new segment “Fight Week”, where we interview fighters that are set to compete in the coming days, we chat with Amanda Ribas, Leo Leite and Wendell Giacomo. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in command of the podcast, Trocaption Franca. And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, Longing, was in a lot of the last episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, The Social Wanda, on this immense podosphere. I'm going to Gailerme Cruz, correspondent of the site

American and Merey Farre in in Brazil and I'm in front of this week, because the convoyal is a major special. Saturday was the day of the UFC 274

and the champion of the people, Charles of Bronx, is between us. The Stoer of Guarroja unfortunately pervee was a centerand of the legs

for a zone in Phoenix, in Arizona, but it's being the world in the category after getting to put a Justin Gates

to batucar in Mataliel. All right, my friend, my friend in a Pazne by my life, what's going

going to happen going to happen with the whole with the mind of the

world of but I'm a champion a peas a lot of the office recognition of the bonus

because this does make more doing this cinturon me and I bat my

my weight my weight my face my had these great problems the

things that people nobody won't try this champion I'm sure this night

this night we we can't we can't make of the last month is a victory. So the champion I still have named.

Like I posted there, the legion of the category of the Pesolab and I was in the time Chaz-O-Divian. We're going to talk about this question of the but first I wanted

about about the lot in-se, you know, car? The balance you do this this war with the Jason Gate

were just three minutes, but that were for some 30, of the time of the lot of

the time, the total of the lot. Yeah, we're not at, not the goal of the goal of the

I'm like I would have this category, a category more difficult that's a guy that is a guy that's a fire in the hands, I think of my arm. I'm going to make some knockdown as I also balanced him, as I also also did a knockdown on him to put him to say in the final the nation. The two

wanted to continue to come a champion and he querying, the opportunity to be a champion of the pears leves, so with a chance of it was a war, but as I said the entire, the time of all, the final of all, in the final of all, in the last year. It's true. I mean, I saw it. I saw it on

your Instagram, including that this was the first that you did after the after the first you don't need

no, you don't need more more than that's not that's but you feel the difference in the other than the other than

the other help, yeah, after I'm after the carvoluntil there for the point of the

for the same you're doing you're other vision, it's other patow of the other time so it was sensational,

as I said never me had never me I never I never I'd never really

I'd never did my adversary an normal but by the fact of the reason a reason

100% good, 100% helped her if the sure sure was a perigoso,

Charles, who'd see all over that's the problem, that's the problem, that's I've been

talking about that I'm talking a lot of when I'm not you're not in the time when I know when I

operate it that's 100% it's like I said, I'm sorry and

more one way the last one of the one of the thing that many people still insist in questioner uh... passed a suffolk at the beginning against,

you know, car, took a knockdown and but it was, it was made, and it was able to really that war, you'd have to show the question,

but I'll have to show the car that's a guy that is the guy that bad to be saddened in some sense in a lot. In reality, we have more than we

more than we talk about, in the reality, they're going to get all the time entire. They want to get to get some mode to try me comodar, but it does it, they say I'm going to be able to

a lot of a porrada, they say a lot of things, it does it, no difference. In the final, I go there and I'm the real champion, who is a guy of the real. This time, they've got the problem of the balance. They thought what I'm justra, me frustrated, me more nervous, even, me left with more serious victory even, so it does it make a difference. I don't know, in reality, because they say, and so

that my team thinks, that's real. We know, that the other side, he had a man who had a man who had a man who had all the world. as he said that he had an opportunity and it was like I said I have a potter of a foot of the phone

in my knockout the finalization she came for the next to knockdown I couldn't in him the first

the first hand the one he bambio so it was I wanted a victory he wanted to be a champion and I

wanted to continue as a champion so so for this I was in the show I said to I said to

last month last month my round I'm I didn't sue and really what was what was

what happened I ensuie it was a war for the war, but that's a question so, so they're in, but they're they're trying to with a question

to say, oh, Charles is, desist, and all right, and they, they've, they've, they,

when it's, you think it's, who you say, that's, the, the, the language of, the,

the, the cause of of who? The cause of the commission. The commission that has to this?

The balance the hotel? The balance is the hotel? The balance of hotel, we talked with the Commission Atletic, they're saying that the balance

of the hotel not a responsibility of their responsibility of the balance of the official, the UFC. The fact,

we always never came to have to be, always they've always had a balance that we used, of all the days,

are 11 years I'm talking I'm doing here, I'm only years that I'm not doing here, I'm 11 years

of my life entire was the whole thing was the use of the person, because this

was the only the one the one of the only thing that was that They got, how they said they were they said?

They're trocaryl. They're disreguled. And what happens, they said, they've asked him, and they've asked, the only lot of the other looters, the only lot, who not was advised, was the guy who was the last night

against the guy that's their tag of their. So, so, you know, in the reality is the thing, this is, there's going to roll a lot of things, many things happening, if they're trying to

try my brillo, or post my brillo, this victory, this victory, me moved to, more, actually is a champion, he's a champion,

he's, for the division and to all those those people who live in following boston on the internet, that the Charlie does it,

that the charles is that's a fracco, you know, the how I'm how I've been, the whole of what I'm

so, like, no difference no, I know what I know my piece on the week, on my

team entire posted this, and even also, there's the program of the balance, that they

did this that did this then they for uskow, me left with more sede of victory in the hour of the past

in the encounter in the night in the hour of the lot of me made sure to make more the first of the world,

the champion, the champion, the peasles-oeverer and Charles. How did you discover that not the same was the same? It was

that was the time that you took a time you got to a lot of a deal with a piece different, you

know? I got to my bed time I'm done I'm done my brainer, man, porh,

it was perfect to be I said, I was going to go to desks and see and then you're going to go to go to see, when I was going to discover that was over the

pedd, I said, I said, I said, so, you know, this is there no this, it's just, and then it's all this war, this luteau this time

total, trying to try this, try this, and it's, and it's got there's a thousand grams, and unfortunately,

it's, no, I don't have what I can put in nobody, my nutritionist I'd pay this cup, everyone said,

man, nobody can't say, man, I'm sorry, we did our work, we've got to have our peso, unfortunately, there's this problem gigantesque, but

does part, you know, it's not the way we're talking, because we're going to say, a lot of people will gojit, we'll say a lot of boston,

go busts, from back, to go, and the reality, I know that's the next, I know that's the problem of the balance,

I'm really who was the champion, 200 grams, I didn't make difference in any one in the lute,

no difference no, no, two grams, I went there and did what I had to do and I did what I had to do. Who was the champion who's still in here. The team is here.

The UFC, obviously, know that happened all this, the United, in the collective of the press said that was a a problem, that they've got to take a little bit of a matter after now. The Tenoward said to put

to put, to put, the fact of the FCC to say that's about this, to know what was a peasant normal, that you not was the only athlete affected for this, that other athletes,

They've got to have been to have been a game of cintura to say, oh, Chars, you don't bathe the peso in the pesage official, in the hour, like, official, of the case. But we know what happened to do you? We don't want to get riddle of a form different? I think in the reality, no, the FCN

VDOTO of support possible that came here. So, 11 years here, always, muded my story, made my story of life, did everything that we did have to do do what they have to do. Unfortunately, it's in the hand of them, it's in the hand of the commission.

no depends of the FC I've I've had all the support possible that's he's

all of the time I'm so I think another one one way the UFC did a parbens

related a my person me treated all the everything what had happened

so that the work of the work of the not with it's related

with the commission and the commission and the commission know that so it's

quite that will be that's you're to go back to get a question.

The question, the the centuron that you were, you were the time, he was the same,

he was he was the he did it? This signetual is we don't bring the car,

we have always a single a new a centuron. For everyone understand, the champion of the

person, the champion the champion, no more the champion, it's to get this to me

to come out me to finalize, or when when I'm to win to come Chalosos

Jars-Olilililii like I said my my filler my like I said, the centurion of the champion on the heavy,

it's not in the last of the time, it's not to get to get to get to be

to get in me, to get to get to make a difference, I don't know for that

they're going to my piece, I've got that popagia that parliada that parliata

all, on a champion, vence, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, and I'm the champion of the Charseses Leves, Charles Williams,

Charles He's been five years. He's five years now. The head a minute's a million, asking the centuron, where did the centuron, and I respond to her, the cintourn't. The cintourn continues in the same place. Go to the father, that you will see.

And she went there in my house, my mom showed the cintouron for her and comforted the heart of her. So, this is the more important, I was to know that the cintourniz is therein. The champion is Charles Erivedo. And the victory was a victory emphatic, you because, because he got a a guy very

very round. He took a knockdown, did a knockdown on him and then he was a curious, that's a guy who was insisting much in this tecla

of the charles is desistent, but in the final was he was he was he was talking to you know what it's not in

reality, the end up the reality of what they're doing they're they'd say, they'd say that I would existia,

and they'd show them showing that in reality the champion there's name so I I did so much time

after. The Charles of the past he's a new Charles, it's a new era, a new moment,

the new world, my mind is blinded, my spirit is blinded, I'm blinded, I'm still, uh, car,

nothing much, but I'm, sure, we've got, during 10 minutes and I, did get to my family,

with you, with you, with the team, and the team, and said, no, the champion has been in my name,

this has been my spirit, this, I saw from the champion, you know, I'm, I'm,

we're, They're going to buy a company, the champion, champion, champion, the champion, champion, all they know, the champion who's charses oliverer,

and Charles de bronx. And I say this the champion who's chars Eliverr, and this is it not going to be going to get, I'm going to come

a champion, I'm not going to it, no, no, no, no, no, it's a lot of the club, to get a better,

to get a better, yeah, then it's going to go to say, it's like, if we're going to get in the other, no, there's

no, what's, what to say, no, they're, they're to do all the way,

they're in the first of the Flamingo, saying that's like I'm like I'm in some great teams of Brazil,

it's a great support and the great team, but, but I am a Koreanian of the reality,

I'm this bande know, I'm a point, I know what is a pro short,

not because the guy put up a camisetta to want to want to that they're to come in the penance

no, it's just when I view and man, no, no difference, that's real. I'm in a

man brinded for those this is my difference in the the Lutta when they're talking we're doing it's

and the yeah, and the your Colingis now and the my Boatheur got to

the Flambo on the so it's all it's all right all right let's just a whole

and the next pass you you know you know you're in the next you know did you know

you're you're gonna you want to you want to you want to you can't but you

said who don't even even will to get to get to be great, according to him, the time of

a gelator but he would have been to confronts you because, according he he nocaughtio all the

Brazilian who he went to this response of him? I said, I said, he was a guy who

man, I'm saying to gain much money, but they're good both sides both sides and he peat

I don't know I'm not even though would be a As I said, I said, I think the focus of all, in the reality, I can go back to home, you know, to get my father, with my friends, to my family, I think I'm going to be able to this discanso.

It was a campy at last one, a lot, much dedication, you know, to be focusing every one thing just. So I think I'm so much, you know, I'm going to be descends a little, to be able to respire a little, because our other lot probably will be November, so I think I'm going to be decanses, know,

can't be able to be back to people, could be able to people, can't be able to people, you know,

with a lot of but you're not that's for more that everyone, you know, you don't have the first of

a rubek so you're a lot of a title, if you could be a great, you don't

be the champion, of fact, that in the paper you have to make to make a lot to

the sturtain, what would be better, like, total sturtal, or infental a grue, for a

a lot that would really lucrative. I think I think it's like, it's like we want to

back to go back to back to a lot of a lot of Pono, everyone said it was for

cause of money for the case of this, for that's the instead of a negat I think we have to

start and think to think it's a lot in the songprone direct, a lot of

a lot of something or a lot of 277.com or even when Nate Diaz,

that I did Tuito and He said that he wanted a lot to me, that me that would be a lot of me, that he wanted to say he wants. So, I think, in fact, I think the timing now is to stop a little of the

head, think some of the people of the realty, and to be this is the time, I think that's the time, and then to leave the money of my entrepreneurs to say what is the better, the car we'll take and we sit there and decide what is good. One thing

that is very important, that's what when you don't know when you have a hand, of you're going to be a centuron,

is the fact of the bolsa, of points of paperview, just is it is the next a process of a future? Even not being

not being the champion official? I said a much time back back, I thought that I'm very very preoccupied

with who can be able to what the goal to docent, what is what is what not, the focus is just to train

and see to it to digar so I I don't want to think that's a F.C. is very clear, I think the media is very clear. I think the champion of those Peleuze-Lefs Chars-Eriver.

So I think that's going to continue in the same form, but I'm even thinking in this. This is real, I want to sparse a head, I want to focus

in other things, not to go ahead, to go ahead, in the favel, I think we have to think in other things because when we're in the other,

we're just thinking no, the other, so I think that now the focus is to think about the I was like,

I'm going to all the number who's going now, NetiJas said he said the word the manager

said he's and it's a bit of the debate there, if not I'm going to the name

that you went to the name that you know, the winner that would happen that would be to be remarked

but it was being remarked on the website and doing the website to you two to get two times

to be a little before the process that you you said, you know, of November,

december, but what do you think of this idea? You think it a idea that would be a idea that's

a idea that the idea that's I think to get to do the other have to do you know, and then

it's a time right to see what we want to think you're going to respect to the world,

the world, the Dereuch also is another guy too a great team, will be a great

fight, so let's be all the first, to be going to be going to be the next the way,

I'm going to go to go to to go to the house, to and to stay with who we're going to to let's go to go to go ahead.

I never go ahead. Who's going to go to go ahead? You know, he's going to Marachiev, Tariuish, is the guy that is the guy that

may have entran't you by the centurion of the final in the future, or the Porya, who Porya, who did a revanch,

the Naiti, Dias, the Magre, or the Volcano the Rove's, the proper Delos said, the top of category and disputed a

cuntaron direct? I think all the the guys I've been made clear that I've beency I'm going to draw a knockoutier. I finalized. I think the two only the other one of the other than

I've got to know. And with the two have to do this fight happen. Who can say from there, too. The real is that's difference with who will be to be the same. I'll be to try and say Charles O'Reveo, Shara, the President. What I want

to, in reality, to go to stay and stay. Independent, I will have to discord with Khabi, yeah? He'll say to make a dispute Centuron in October in Abu Dhab, poor, it's It's just did. The

Lute was in the Rue against the J.Gate J.G. Jokersen to the car. It's the time to do you

do a minute here in Brazil, put your Cintraulton in Joe. The new event, was perfect

the game of October, but unfortunately we don't have the the cold of the public, for the

time of the time. It's the time to put down the chas but I'm in the New York, but I'm doing

the same power to see St. Paul this event you, you I said I'm going to do December and

I the people Brazilian we need this, we need this a lot of being in Brazil if the South

Pauau's 100% but I'd really that the other was in the I think we're this I think the

people of the people Brazilian needs to be able to knockouts and finalizations about these champions

interiors of FECC champion of Peltor champion of World Series of Fight and many

people just defended that you have you have been the list of the list of

the list of the list of the story until you think you You think that's that you'll have

something to you pass the Rabib and the other your career that you've done the whole of your

work in the year of the same thing you're a matter of money, recordista of bonuses, what more I think,

via rapid via rapid what you think you're more, yeah, but what's more,

more new, that's not, so, so, then there's another father,

man, so much, yeah, Chats. Cack's just about I was in the pastoral moments. So, I don't know.

So, like, my story well, for the channel Combat did a postage that I'm the best that's the best of the time. Because, I'm the selected,

I'm illuminated, so I'm illuminated. So, I'm in the reality, I'm illuminated. You're in all the time? Mereo'clock. I'm not. I'm getting to be.

I think I'm still to be in the marries all the time. I don't? I think even a little, a little,

a passin of a bit, a passin of a piece, not? I think, I think I'm, I'm, I don't What what's the point? What's what? A man

who you just said, a guy who you listed, with all these things, what you fault? What you fall into, I'm going to, I'm going to be, I'm a lot. I think, I think, be there's a much pen to the floor, being to be there. Let's people ask. What do you are the same? This is the question. I'll leave a question for our

followers, to see what they're going to say, but, what you said, but, what you said, this list of feats there, is difficult questioner, yeah? I think my age 32 years I'm a coincidence

of the finalization recitus of the ego of the ponos of the night it's a I think to start

to me to forget it's a champion peas on 11 bese segued 19 btore a

one no I'llteo finalism only only just one just one

just one in the decision so I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry the time because you know

I'd never had been too We're glad. We're happy, we're happy, I'm happy with my team. I'm a team total, the team all is here, we've seen the ballad of

Donnacito, Catcats is recuperating, back a little, there's a lot marked also, a newt also, now, in the next final of the week,

Tepolean, and we have a team gigantees who's that's been for the same, a volume of gigante. Maneer, Chasco,

thank you, for your time, in this video course, this year, back one once a victory, for the champion

Pesolever-Leverd It's a good. It's my man, I'm going to be it. It's it. I'm going to go to see. And the podcast don't par to

here. The podcast not paris is here. Campeon of M.MA in Dubai who infrent a lendson Sylvain and

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in a lot of the box in Dubai. My man, many times things for there. Grazie of God, for here, it's all right. Ancioso for this lute, man, man. I imagine the anxiety,

that I'm going to, I'll tell you, I'll tell you a lot of a surprise, when the TMZ gave the information that Anderson Silva is to a Dubai

in a little point in a point a Brazilian Bruno Machado I thought I thought Bruno Machado for Bruno Machado from he

I know the champion Peso Leav of UAE Warriors I'm going to be a part of a part of

we don't expect a matter after he had been after he got to the last night

how it did this negotiation how is how it on your call this this

lot of this question to you say I don't I don't say

I don't know how how they were negotiating this but I believe that, like, so, by the fact of I'm

being the champion of the Airwors and being a person known here, the Emirates, I think they got in this

accord of negotiation for cause of this, but for me also was a kind of was kind of was all and it's all

and, you know, and, poor, car, no, no, there can't

not accept a convict this, yeah, because the Andrew for the one of the

idol, as it was the Aiton Cena, how was the Pellet so, so for me

it's a great reason immense there's no, there's no words to measure

the time of this. I imagine a impugation that you have received this this offer

because I remember that we remember that we've a year the last the last the last

the last you were contracted with the FC yeah that the Danawite

would grabbing Look for Fight, the program of his, yeah, to go to events minor and contract to him impression him, you've got me too shate there, you know, and ended up before your lot, and not you contracted, and not, and not

it's been good, because if he'd be contacted us in that time, you'd not front a one as you go to box now? Yeah, car, uh, at least we're looking at some things of the life, that we have just, just just to just leave, you,

we don't have to be looking for why this, because of that we've learned, we've learned with this lesson, we have to live day after day and, my, man, man, if you work hard, one hour, a thing will happen

what happened, man. God, I, po, I train very every day, that I'm always trying to get to get some and he gave this to present, I'm doing this

way now. And it's, that you're with moral in Dubai, you know, the, like, the Anderson Silva,

in this event, with Floyd, Moe, and all the We just wanted to someone in the name of the region, to help to sell them to and get you, yeah?

Yeah, like I said for you, it's a-one-surable for me, I'm insurmable. I just will believe in the semester of the Lutta when I see these guys personally, in my front, because until now

it's a thing immensurable. And we talked to know in the past, you know, I'm telling how it's, how you have the life in, Dubai, and everything,

that you have this work, outside of, other, in the, to be a lot of a professional of the M.A.,

you also, you also, I'm trying to that's not, I'm going to have a power to do a moral in the

region, how is your job in day-a, and other to be a day-a-a- yeah,

so, in the day-a- the day of the day of the day of the time, I have to my carg of the

time, now, now, we're in this period of Ramadan, yeah, more in the part of the night, but I'm

always having to conciliate. The work with a train. But, but, thanks a God, I can't conciliar well, and I can't train all the days. In this period

of Ramadan, affect the same of your training and or you can't take the gelator, and get a guy that can't maintain the training,

or that not that not be affected for this period religious there. So,

the period of Ramadan in my opinion, to train is a little better because

as a night, I have more time the time free of day, I'm and much

before this this is confirmed, I was I was a battle marked I,

I have to defend my suit in June and how the

things are being other people, I don't have this question, if she will come to the train or not, and I came to try and Gabriel Braggia to be able to be

coming, you know, three months, they will me help both for the Lutta to the Lundas, and the Wallywres in June. You will maintain the

in June, independent, so, not be going to be a job to front, adia a little, no, it's be the

no, no, depending on how I I'll say with the of the with the Lutta with with the Lundsen but I'm a lot of

a lot of I can't do that I can't be able to do you know with this car that I

have to have to have been last year but the the lot was was adiated and I

I'm with this feeling positive that will do so I will continue do this

two years so I'm now I'm going to the month the part of curious, that you're

with Gabriel Braga and the father of he's part of the training of Anson Silva,

now, how is that how is that how is that how is the question? Oh, it's the

secret. It's the secret. No, then, in the fact, the

father of Gabriel, he, he, he, he, Like, we,

we've trained a lot of a lot of a time, we know, we, we know, and it's a

lot of exhibition, it's a lot of exhibition, and a we're going to make that there, but he,

it's coincidence even, he's been to come back because much before we've seen the Anderson,

a we're a friend, I was a friend of this man here here, I see a little, I,

I mean, I mean, I knew he, I think he had had nine years, 10 years, it was very little bit of 10 years, it was very

little when I knew I was like, I'm able to have the Gabriel here, to put up the pasture, the pastur was one of the guys who was my name-a, man, the most part of

the things I said of M.MA. was the Pachu who was the Joe Braga who made me was an feeling a lot of a great idea of

this moment important in my life, to have these people to be this part of you training with Ones obviously was

a much time after, but this does, obviously, the two training them, so the two so, even though, even though, is it, even though, but

how is it being used to train? But how it's the time you're going to train? From my part, the main part, what I can say? I, the time that I trained with him,

that's the time until now, I've evolved very, man. Because when I trained with him, I was a man, you know, when I when I, when I, when I

when I trained with him, I, knew a lot of times he'd chegave to me and he'd give to me, he'd never, And from that time to come to

I've evolved very, I've a evolution very great very great, too great, also, how I can say?

The Ants, also, also, also, it's also, what happened there, I don't

take the base for that, for the fight that will happen in May, you know? But,

po, car, what I always I always are a phenomenon, man, the master of the master of

the master of art martial, and, oh, I just I'm very happy to to do this with him. The difference

of the thing was a question that's when I'm a champion a little because you're not a lot of

70 kilos you know, you're quite you're gonna be a bit more he was a man he was a man,

so there's a different physical considerable, how is it for you this in a lot of

that's in an what you can't how you administer this I think the I think the majority of the people let's suppose, the majority of the people who

were saying this lot of this lot of the money, let's put in a little MMA, let's suppose a person pays 83 kilos, 85, the majority of the people would be, of a bit of subpoe more in the category, to be in 88, 89, to be able to be more pesado.

But I don't see it for this I prefer to I prefer to find in my personal I'm in the time of the time in the way I'm feeling

being, I'm feeling well I'm still doing a time to do but in the order of I'm feeling well, not me feel like me

not, I'm a great problem no, I've I've trained with many people people, I don't see much

the difference no, the same how do you do you mean? That's a secret, poor.

It's a secret man, That's a secret. You can't say it's a lot of a word of a word of

I don't know of that's not but you know maintain secret and this is a secret and this is a question you

know, a lot of an issue of an issue against Nelson Silvo is a opportunity of you

you're a champion in Dubai, so that when this lot she was much of many people

she had many people and so the questionable one of the most of the world of the story

of sports it's it's a it's a but it's But it's a chance of of the order, of you do

do you do you do you do you're to be in my time, it's a lot with my

lot of an issue but I'm trying trying like if I would have I was not a

12 rounds of three minutes and I want to get there very prepared even being

not a exhibition I don't want to get to do a thing and I'm

sure that the Anderson is that person that Or, which

who for to see the event can expect an exhibition very

good. A show, really a show, can't expect a exhibition fantastic,

both of my part and the part of him. You're 15-9 of M.A.

There's five nocaults in the box before? I have a

campaign mando de box I, I just did a commandor of box here in

the Emirates I'm still to start with with I

did I did five luts. I did four luts, knock out of four

luts, and I'm in the final, for points. It was to the decision, the luteau final.

But I did a game five luts. When was that? This was by the

2014. And I'm Anderson, for the other side, he made the career of his

brilliant in the M.A. Then, he went to to the box, he did the the

lot of the Lululis Chabes- Jouns, the name big,

the sports there in Mexico, got it was a division, they're divided, that's a little made some to make a little bit of Mexican,

it was unquestionable that was aneur that's true. That's, and then he picked the distortis, took the car for napa

from it, so Anson was going to box, and he showed the car in the career of M.A. That's,

you think, that's this battle, so you're not this battle, round, you think, that will

do not turn eight rounds, you think you are capable to knockoutia Wannison on the box? Carta is luta,

we never know what will happen and we're going to be able to happen. And as I said before, I'm going to be super prepared. I'm going to be prepared to do what

for necessary to say well, you know, but see if I go knockoutia, no-toucher, no-tuce, we never

know what will happen. Don't have to go to the lot, doing a, do a, do you know,

a time, we'll see. I have the my advantages, he has the advantages of his advantages of him. He has a experience more than I. This tarimba

of his fight. I'm more more level, more more, more, between the show, more rapid. So, I'm, I'm, I'm prepared to do a show.

This I can't you guarantee, man, I'm saying, you, you're always always with the velocity of his adversaries, because he was very very rapid, even in the, especially in the me of, especially

in a me of peser, that he had the more pesasers, but on the middle, in the tonification of his golfs were very rapid. I think the fact

you're more less than he's a piece of levy, will be a part of he not be used to do, he will train for this,

but for you be more levy, you will try a velocity that he not be accustomed to get to for enfrenting

the more mena. Cerellatically I, I think, uh, I think he will be a little

than I, even more that's not the same than the my, not. Also, I'm conscious

that the pancada of it can be a bit more more than my, I'm preparing for this,

I'm going to go to the lute, knowing the things that can be going to me.

But I'm very confident, I'm very positive in this question of the question of this,

it's a positive in this question of the the age, too, 10 years

more new, and, I'm anxious, I'm doing to do it to do you to do you know, and a

guy who not a lot, a factor that can make a difference to your favor, is the law of

pressure, because the Anderson-Silva is used to be front in the UFC, for example, he's always

who got the great names of the sport, the names of the organization, he went to box,

he took, Rulubh, he's a guy, who has a story much long in the

sport, when he I don't get a distortise, that was a straighter, but, is a ex-campion of UFC. I think you, for being

the guy, you're in front the 20 years, to the grand public, I think that's that it takes a position of you, and put it in

the way, because in this all the everyone who will have to get to gain? Like, who, who is this guy who is

being, the great public who not accompany N.A. that not see who A. He don't know who is you,

so he will look to see, he got a guy to get a person, he will enter with this pressure of you have to get to get to knock out of this

car because whatever thing that's a bit more than a deception for the grand public, right? I believe that yes, I believe that there this pressure too. I'm going there without this pressure on my costs, or so I'm going there

with a case only to think in the lute, the things that will happen in the ring. But also, also I have a conscience that I'm a man to be a very experienced

and for this fact he, not he to be a guy who is a he's he's

he's not very well for this too well, I'm not can't get to be like,

I'm going to be able to be able to know, I'm disconnosed and I'm I can't relaxate, I

have to be to the same and I'm I think too, that he's I think he

will be training very to get there to get there super-preparated and continue to do

to want to to do what the people are waiting. It's really just to just to finish for you,

we know, this is box in the MMA, but there's a lot of the market, there's a

name. What is the victory of you know, when we said in the way that's he was in

your last you did not he said, and the you said to be in filerer

all of the ex F6 that you you, you, you, you said

that the event you dids various F6 to you have you after

that v in the event, a contract with the UFC. Gagnar Donison Silva in the box, you think it will be the story that will guarantee a contract with UFC? I don't know if it will guarantee the contract of UFC. To tell the fact, I don't know what could

happen after this battle. It could be that after this lute me to call me to dox, me chameen to make more luts of box. It could be after after a lot, some events

if you enter in contact. Many things can happen. But I don't have certain what can happen I'm going to be positive and I'm going to be going to be able

with a good thank you thank you this time for your time this year after this is announced but it's been a round final

of preparation now that it's a bit of a time to get a point in an airport on

an apartment completely different I'm very so serious to see how how it will happen

thank you thank you thank you your team socess in this this RET

final edge camp Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Again, thank you for you for you guys, always a pleasure. And I want to give you to people day 14 of May, Ficking Ligued, okay?

Anderson Despada Silva and Bruno Kavana Machado on top of Bourge-Aurrabe, the hotel most lushoos of Dubai. Not perker. A we're now to a newbiddle here on the podcast. At the part of now I will publicar

these interviews with athletes that are lute on the end of the For to start, we'll try resensions with Amanda Ribba who's

a lot of Keeffe of Kewskekekeke in the L.C., Leo Leight, ex-campion dukewarm of

LFA, that's a lot of a postentad in New Jainel Jacob, the atreatta

for the Patriots that's Browellon, the show, The States, see, there.

How is the expectative to be to get a time, a battle after after after many

lutters cancelled, plans adiards. The expect is there's on the

a marketer here my opponent, that if God if God's I'll get to get to get to

get to get a really, I'm really very much really much really, which I think

that's a opportunity that the FC me gave very great and I don't with

eyes and hands and you're after the other with a question with a

question that's a matter very popular there's and more it was it was

it not it recompensing of other form, you're going to get a category,

you're a new thing, but the challenge but the not the number one of the division,

so it's it's not, now, when it came to the Lute of Michelle, I think I'm a little

because I had seven months that I was not a lot to be a lot for me,

because she was a better Rake-a and it's a new would be a good, and it's a lot,

seven months without, the men's the men's the people, all the all the And then it appeared an opportunity to

to fight with a Caitlin, which was number two of the ranking, and now is number one. Wow! I said, I want to be, we'll alter the diet, we'll make the training,

alterer the trains, adapt to the trainers, to get the best, the category of the sim. What, what did you have to do do in terms of diet, of training,

now that the Lute in other division? Contra, I was getting being very smart with a shoot, my my peso would have to have to

do that's very much a diet a more, so? And I'm trying a Keating, and God

did all right, it was all the athlete, it was to a doctor to work for she was, she was also,

she was also, so, so, and in relation the diet, too, I'm putting a

person, but it's more more more, but you were I was on the

When you When you When you When you When you For this Yeah, I was I was in

Catele and I did it to be a little Yeah But I'm You know, I remember, I remember if it was

I remember if it was Pied of Vanzan, I'm I think it was my piece of that you

did not because you did for the little bit of the fight Yeah was, it was

I don't know if it was against my Ponce but my was was very

I can't, I can't recover well, I can't you can't you'll be, you know, you're going to? I don't want to get very pesable for not to be able to

not get linted, because I think it's, it's, it's, like, I'm, it's all, let's get a, leantona, I'm, I

expect to be 64, for I get a hard, and rapid. Uh-huh. And for this lute, when we said,

a lot, a lot, that's a opportunity much, the division of the back, also, too,

congenated, to get to the centeron, right? It will have the battle this

Saturday and then know who is there will be the opportunity maybe it's Marino

Rodriguez, there's the Aemano there's a revance against the Rensang so

not you know, who will have been the chance, how is the final,

the Valentina will put a something will put down the game in the

game a certain the Chukhian the Vita Rueueue and suburbia, you're

getting her, you can't even have to be a chance of the centurone. I think that nobody never imagined

I'm looking with her she came with a victory that I'm trained to come, I think I

can't even imagine, I'll go to go to go to and I want to get to

because it's a opportunity to surprise to make more or what a batistaca did,

that she did get to exactly the case knock out the first round and just

went to dispute central, right? It was. It was really. But for you, the scenario ideal, even, is the category of back, you know, that's it came to the circumstance,

came to go to front. It's not there's a way to go out. Of the way. I think the cavalier of the opportunity to be there, I'm trying to mount on it, aghra, and leave to house.

And how do you think the case, the game of you two? I think I have to be very expert, because she will try to work in vergator of her,

that she's more high than I, so I have to be more large, more strong, and to find my distance. If I let her, to find the distance of her, go back, to the game, which is a joaquin' may start off, back, side, to point-a, then it will be done good for her,

but I don't want to be able to happen to do it. I'll try to grab her. I've never seen, but she said that you're going to be exactly this, the game, right, which is a game, right? It's a true, because she's not going to infight, she, not to go to the lute in-in-s-sie, to try a porrada, or to

try a cracker, she'll just I just keep batheeing, out, point-o-old, like a game intelligent to get to get for points, it's a game

that you have to be very to be too to be able to be a lot, he's not not say the porrard,

no. So, no can't let's make to get in the head. So I'm

very prepared to try to try the time, not make her not make her not let her

think, that if she think she doesn't don't say, if I don't do it, if I

get her in this time, I can't three rounds to to think of this, so I have to be

calm and I have to do that this is a time? You think that's that's the round, you

know, it's a finalization a finalization a night, and do you know, is that is the finalization?

I think so. The your vote, it's been a little a vote and dispedida, yeah.

Well, I think there's a time in, you know, not, so, first,

because I had this problem of the health in 2019. It was a Ruta Markado also and I had to canceler when I had tuberculosis

in the reality. Then the treatment is long, I have to go to 9 months and then when I'm really and I went to train and I was

marking the road again, I had a problem in the Tern, who me left in the hospital more one a time, then then when I

saw the pandemic just got started normal, I'm going to also, I can I was when I went to train normal, so it's a, you know, 44. Carcass, I'm not going to the people that's asking,

you know, but I was going to do with, do you do with, after so much things happening? Oh, no, Cah, no, I thought that I no couldn't more to fight. No, no. In fact, I never, I didn't, because I thought that my distinguished, I could not be able to see now. I still me'd have more one an year or two of two of the other, but I think it was in a

hour, too. You felt you, you finished, you finished, you finished, you finished, you, you know, and you finished, no, this here was the last? Well, they offered me a lot, and said, no, I want to be this dispeded here in LFA? It's, you know, I gained two centurons, the case, so then I began to think of this. Uh-huh. They didn't do they're just as being

you, Pugh, it's like it's really I don't understand they're they're just

done to be a lot of being a time to do you do you do it exactly

exactly I'm I'm I'm I'm in I'm I'm gonna don't

I'm don't have no time for me to train if I have a a proper

Lutz it's a project of what? Relation a Luta or other other thing?

Relation of the Lutta, too. Is one thing you can't say or is maturant? Yeah, no, I don't, I don't, not, it's not right there, it's practically, but it's with Flavre, there's a good thing with Flavre, with a reaction, the present of his.

But, as we still, we still, to finish all, I'm not talking about, so I'm not talking about it. Yeah, so, and how much is that's been this, this camp,

this battle of this call being different emotionally than the

other people? But I'm just me doing, I'm just

I'm like I'm like much of a baderer again I'm I'm

I'm here this time to end to end the final of the

night to come to come normal now so I'm so

I'm still still still even and I just

having But I'm not I'll feel I don't know I'm not sure I feel like the fault of the of the concentrations

I'm I'll see fault of this process of preparation Uh huh What you don't do you do

I never I never I never I'm so I think I'm most I'm

the restrictions that I I'm in when I'm when I'm I think I I think this I

don't want to feel like that. And, po, for this for this, for this, I'm putting a

lot of various victories and what you think he's what you think he an, an,

an old of this a lot of a guy that has a new victories, a

derot, I think will be a lot of different, I'm more a group, and it's

more a lot of in-peper, But if you need to be in the ultra, I don't have no problem any. But I'm always trying to get a lot to where I'm more comfortable. But with a good, a lot,

an adversary, a very cazard, there's many victories, like you said, there's a no victories, a derot, a cartel of the most of the most. So, a displeasuredue of the lute. And so, now, now, the last days,

as the last few days, as a lot of professional of M.A. before you penduling the lubes? What balance if you did your career? What was the moment most emotional that you've lived in the MMA after having a career that did in Jiu-Gitzen in judo?

Manment more emotional I think for my first one. The first was, because I think I'd come to much more in the MMA. I could have to go back in the time I would have four years before,

after the Olympia of Pekin. And I think it was a good But I didn't know what would happen what would happen I never had trained. I never was in the same gymitist, I never trained in gymnas. I never trained without kimono. I never came to train without some kind of a newmone. So, that's for me, it was a new thing,

moitai, I never trained these things. So it was a newtide for me at the same time. So I don't know. So, then, after my first luna, that I was, I thought, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in a place right. And it was the first

and the M.A. So, you were a champion duplow on Legacy, a thing, that was a mod,

of everyone persegling the two storking, you did this before this is a mod, right? You know,

it's failed. You know, you, was a champion duplu that was a newpola, and then

people people were people, people wanted to, no, I'm going to be

a champion, and defend a centurts times. Today, the day, the other, to get a lot of

the other, you do you do something? Yeah, I was to get in the Lever, and it was even a great

because I was a champion a little international, I just went to the ring to the Lager

and then I was in the States a time training in Black, the Blackfield, and then

Dauau came out of playing, I'm trying a tour of TET against Black Vent,

in the I was going to start, I would start, I think. And then he looked at the company, at the time, that was the owner of the

team, and he presented to him, he looked like, but you're like, it's a medium, then I'm,

I'm thinking, I'm doing, I'm doing, do, do, I, know, I'm, I've never, until 100 kilos,

sometimes don't get in jukechus, I'm pesadit. I said, I said, let me come to come back, he gave to my nutritionist,

and said, let's say, let me try, and then my second the last one, it was from the cinturals of the Metsk. Then I got more one of the defense and I went out, I came to leg, then I went to, then I did some other than that.

So, thanks to Dan Watt that you've made this story of two years. Exactly. I never never ever ever, I'd have imagined to be 24. I remember the last time, the M. This one of the first time, the last time I did 90-killed, What did you do that? And what what was What was that

What was What was What was Notting? Today not Today I don't Not But,

but I I've got The two Cinturons and Defendie the Cinturon too

I had I had I had a Wanted to know But in the time I had

I don't know if this is to be a frustration or not, but I think that's faulted. You know, you know, because... Was? Why? Why did he, that... Not an obsession, but why he didn't have this desire that you had, if you was that you had, because you said, then.

I didn't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, how I should have some athletes, especially the people with a little more, with a little more, It was that. It was that. I didn't... I was a I was a Pesion of the lot.

It was a bit of a circle, a like a pariahada and I was, I think the metocratia about the luts, not because the guy was more or less than the other

the guy that was the guy that was was on the tippantoron. He had to do it for where to stipend the centuron. And the guy that He says, I got a lot of a lot of a car

on son and with a underlay Puttardley Puttano a lot normal, not like to put in a centuron In fact I just took a centuron Venturon Inevent So

I think it's One of the reasons That's one of the How muched was Howe was the emotion I, car Of not just Feastal with a

But, to just Estrear this time, yeah? Bisch, it was like,

for me was a surprise very great. A we, as a athlete

that's in the Brazil in the dream, he's in the event international

that can provide it many things, quality of the quality of the

quality of the ability to get not just not just not just

to get in an event but also but also against a man of the sport

to me pull of him a guy a guy a great and for me for me so me

motiv even more you're you've made last year in the year after a event manniro that

was you thought that you'd just to do you to a event international what are the when you got to think of all my life

she will be well the was more or less than this. I was I was, I was, when I was the opportunity,

that was the we were in we were going to get to, I went to a lot with a reserve of the event, and I was

talking that we would get to the final to shoot the centuron. So, then I, I'm

cuted, and me machete in the the loss, and the commission didn't let us up to

and then they were to substitute other guy, And then I thought, if we can't get the centuron of LFA, with the same thing we'll

be projected to or the bellator or or other organization major, right? And, boy, I I, I, I, I,

I, I, became a little bit a little time, for having to have been a lot of, and I was waiting, the other opportunity.

And then, in the middle of March now, that the event day 11, there in Rio de novo that the Biharino I would have been to have been in that event

and I was I broke a man in the beginning of the year and was a reason that, I made sure I made sure

that you got from the but God knows of all the things because it's an opportunity I'm a opportunity now and I

just I'm 100% and just just a funicity Maneerer mano

and and On a showing in an event national, when you said it's a legend of the sport, what does it change? Who can't know that in the world of the M.A, when it's in events national, it's difficult to live just the lute,

not, car? A lot of financial, so, how this will move a part of today? I still don't know. How? How will be it? I still am I still living the reality of here, you know, I'm thinking,

I'm in here. But I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm always always think in this form that's

my way to keep on the same person with a same pegat with a person, I always was a

person to my maximum, I'm to be to do my better to

just to get to when it when it's this opportunity that we're what

happened. With the event of mask, I don't know in LFA, I don't put to look at, we're we're going to last year, on the day 13,

no LFA, now, no, it will roll, the day 13, the same end of the event there, the Belator. And then, we're all right, we're all right,

we're all right, and he said, it was when there's a possibility, he said, you, you can, you can, you can't, you can't,

you can't, you can't, you, do not, to fight against a top of the world, I said, Doctor, my God, my dear, this thing. And then, and then,

and then, we're going to get into this opportunity, because, as many, I see, there's many athletes that have this

paradigm of, to differentiate, you know? Ah, I'm here, I'm, I'm, I'm , I'm not,

I'm not, I can't, I can't, and I'm not, I think different. I train with great athletes, I have

great experience in the academy and I know what I'm able to be my potential I'm a man who's

a guy much but I know what I can go to live to him too the peril to be

to train or you have some work or you have a time atal? No, today not today I'm

today I'm doing a class but at Christmas I did all I did all

I did all to me maintain here I've worked of Pixayoro I've of security

I've worked I'm doing a class so we're always we're always we're having to see by

you know in the Brazil in the scenario national for the difficulty that is for the event

to pay in both books as also for the athlete to maintain in the

Brazil is very complicated so we we're always always I think Now, we've got this opportunity, to focus 100% in me,

100% in my career as an athlete. And it's it. You do all the law in pit bull, also, and part of all right. And Jim Hedrae, too? Also. Okay, I'm sorry. And this experience,

how is you think you that you go out of the victory, how are you going to win? A lot of forms to gain the poor, but it's a man who is a highly experienced. And we have to go, to see the strategy at risk, right? We're trying a plan to fight against him.

But, independent, we're going to do with the MMA. And the the fight comes pre-. So we pretend to work, it's a bit of all. The people who are me talking about this, about a guy who's a great, a kickboxing of excellent, a guy who has many no-caults in the career

how you see this I see he as well he's also good as well as you're good for the

good examples in the academy the we're trying the a trotation here

a trotation okay to approve this to prove this Patrick also I don't I don't

I think it will be different I have good arms to show he there and

it's with a trocaation with the grepres, I will continue abaffer him and bring this victory. A we can here in this edition of the podcast, appreciating too, as much, as a

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