MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Exclusivo: Charles do Bronx Fala de Dariush, Makhachev, McGregor e Muito Mais

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

O UFC oficializou o retorno de Charles do Bronx contra Beneil Dariush no dia 6 de maio, e o ex-campeão volta ao Trocação Franca para analisar o duelo, falar do sucesso estrondoso no Brasil, as alfinetadas virtuais em Conor McGregor, o tropeço diante de Islam Makhachev e muito mais. O podcast traz, ainda, entrevistas com Goiti Yamauchi, Bruno Bulldoguinho e Markus Maluko. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC has officially announced Charles Oliveira’s clash with Beneil Dariush for May 6, and the former champion returns to Trocação Franca to weigh in on the match-up, his astounding success in Brazil, the online altercation with Conor McGregor, the loss to Islam Makhachev, and much more. This week’s podcast also features interviews with Goiti Yamauchi, Bruno Silva, and Markus Perez. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Senoras and Seniors, in command of podcast, Trocaption Franca. And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guilermi Cruz. Hello, Lombo, Funtilu, welcome to 178th episode of podcast, Trocaation Franca, A's your house,

sub-MAMI, this immense for the Sphere. I'm Gailam-Crux, correspondent, the site American on M.M.A. Fahlerner in the company of Charles

the Bronx, who enfenta Benile of Ariussel and the 6th of May on the FECC. All right, my friend, my brother,

my brother, to be a pleasure to be talking to you, this is always a great thing, it's a lot to against me, it's a lot to be in and not happen

it will happen now in the moment right right. I'm going to see him a man, I'm a man

really goody is a man who I'm a man in the same way that I'm in a way of when I'm in fact it's a lot of

it will be a great war we've got the year, the year, it's going to this year, this is the

thing, this lot is the important to be you know, you think part of this respect is obviously the people of

the people who are people who are not some cars to to provoke, the guys to to say the murder, but also the fact of you two vines the same lineage

there, the two have the roots of if you're doing with Diego Lima, he train with Rafael Corteur, I think this also, I think this also,

I think this is, I think, also, I'm, more, the fact of a being, a man, and a other do it in a form, one's a lot,

one's of the other, the way, the way to do you, do a lot, is a lot, is very in respect, you know, and I'm not,

you know, and I think, in the school, it's, yeah, he's, Rafael Cordero, one of the great leaders of Chitbox, never

always left the name and chutebox for the world entire, the world into the big name, I, in the part of the chitobox, Diego Lima. So, with certainty, the school, she has

a spirit of guerre, a spirit of a guy that's sangra, will die, continue to go ahead and up front. So I think the school, she'll talk much.

I interviewed I interviewed, I've said, if it was to this look for this Luta now, if it was for the 2020, that he came to come to come up to him, P, quote, the F.C.

Offreceal this lot here, are two guys of the Shoebox, even, that, me, maybe, you're, maybe-keying the blessing of Rudey-Mar, to be able to them to accept a lot. You know, because, the Ruffalo , you know, because the Raffa-Coderer was, oh, the

student, you have, the Dijgo-Lima in the middle of the way, but, there was some sort of, this thing, this, put, this lot, this, a funilor, it has to roll, but But it's a sentiment of that a piano that's happening for two, are two guys that are not the same school,

but have the same raids? Man, in real, the Redmond is up. So, all of us pass for the back of him. Loddick, there's a deal before me, as a Raphael who can't be

there's been trying to be sending a message, and we're always coming here to train with us, always trying to be an opportunity. It's a guy who, have a carino-gaintee for me.

Logic, we don't want, in the same way that no team that nutty-Brailer, against a Brazilian, we don't want that we're in the same school.

But the chitbox is a chitobox gigantesca, there's various places of the world, and this is an hour would

be going to be the same, the Raffelor like the a champion, how I want to be a champion, the best,

also can be a champion, so a one of this is going to show, that's a show,

to show, how we're going to how we've been so getting to getting so,

how we've been Tarticca, nobody goes to to look to someone of the same team,

but it's part, he will be defended, with the team of his chitbox with Raphael Cordeoer,

and I'm going to get back by the future, I will continue going to back front,

doing that doing that I always do that I'm going to make a one of the new name of the chitbox,

the spirit that's this this was being being conversed a lot of a lot of

many years and the Darius, came to recalarmes that he wanted to happen before, yeah,

and it's a thing that she was a time, was a new, for a question your,

I'm going to the decision about the data in the time in the time that's not time that's being very

very time to get in this top five, I've looked I've done about, I've done

to do you know, and the things are in the time that they're in the time that I'm in

the time that it's been good for two there, it's good for the

UFC, so it happened in a moment, this is the time of my that I want to I want to learn in this time. I said I want to I want to work between April and May,

and he also is a guy, a man, he's a man that he's a man who he knows what he's doing what he's number one of the rank, and

if he has an opportunity to he can be he's the next disaffirate to the title. So,

a month a more, a month a minute, does it is the day of the date that's the date that will happen.

You know see front in 2020 in 2020, in the time, this has of the fight for problems

personal. It's a thing that you can talk about about this, or is a thing you prefer to leave out of

even? Yeah, we have to know when we have a good, when we're 100% good, when we're

a relationship, the team, I had a problem personal, and we thought better, just the team

to be able to make a pass to back, and inspire and think, and it's the thing

the world we've been doing the all the happened after but we let's see

the way I've had a problem personal no time no say it's not a past past

to be able to try and put when we're sure that so much how you both both years

and a two years and a pasted practically in that that's that's

you went to you've evolved too also I'm I'm sure the two

evolved much like you are the some some of the same some

those great guys that the time entire, the school says for this, the name of the school says for this. The best,

in the MMA complete, I, as I've evolved in a MMA complete, mentally, physically, spiritually, and I have a great war,

so two great lotators, are two guys who are two guys who are too guys who don't want to make the decision, each one in their style,

each one in their form of the fight, and I think that is that the time of this the fight, how

I'm going to be happy, the point that I'm going to start with six I'm with a lot of victory, I want much to make a happen to be able to want to be

new, you know, like the team also being talking to me for me, say, I'm going to go to live, a more one way,

and go back to go back in a bad, and do you go back back to do that happen. You're both are super quite in-pressed

both in-pe and on the show, he has finalized a lot of people in the FC. what you think

the first of the Jiu-Gitzsche of his, what he does he does, what he does not you assurts, but you know what you're trying attention, you impression? I think in the reality the Bainer is a

real leader of the M.M.A. He has a lot of Trey-M.A. He has a lot co-coation very good. He is a guy that he's a lot of time he plays a lot of the world that was a footballer. So, I think

I think we have to keep expert in all the sense, in all the moments. I'm like I said to say I'm going to go to see I, Charles,

running to front, Sharile's that Gohers who wants to get a victory. Charles who is the time of the whole time of the whole.

And in the part in-peer, what is the great difference that you see in the two guys of this school, Shud-boxe?

What you do you do you do you think what you think he does different of you in the part of the the process?

I think in reality, we don't It's not need to be an impotobo, no, everybody knows that I came for the football Diego Nima, in the buscould of in order to learn the part in-pe, because everyone knows that I'm in the car

in the jiu-jitz. No, I'm a guy who's in a man who's a guy who's a bigot in-in-pe, but we're saying, we're talking about the same school, we're talking to chute-box, I'm going to go ahead and continue to the front, you know, I take a porrada and continue

to down to front, I'm going to knock-down, I continue to go ahead, so, so I think, who will be someone who will be more of the heart, who can't even, you want to learn a champion. I want to wincer. I want to start a champion once a once a once a once. I'm going to win a game of

car sandsen. You're a guy super respectful, but you never never sorted in saying, this guy that I think I'm going to courtier, I'm finalized. He's a guy who's a guy who's going to courtier and finalized and you'll have to see a way, that's a way maybe maybe better to get this victory? Yeah, being serious, you know very serious, you know I'm really

I'm not going to err I'm going to hear again, I'm going to I'm going to say this whole, I'm going to go to go ahead to be in a while, I'm going to say to

this one point I'm going to not come I'm going to make a lot strategy that's not a lot of Charlie's going to

go to turner's he goes to so he'll go ahead so you want to go to my luteau you'll come to knock down you you'll get to

go out of the you're going to he's not, he's a lot of he's not been caughtiard, he's just been preaches, as I also have been so I think more important is that we're trying to a lot, we're going to wince, you know what I'm a man who's a lot. You're a guy who has

been confidence in this this lot, you guarantee the target shots, but many people see preoccupied with Conan, he possibly won't, he was getting the Michael Chandler, he for a lot, but you said recently in interview, too, I'm May Hour, that no actually even that he can't even that

he can't even, and it seems that's this commentary that you made, he made, he's just the guy mordid, he, he,

he, he, he's been, he deleted the Twitter there, he did he did he did he's,

he's the he's gonna a manned, he's a man, he's a man, he's a man, in the hour that I said,

he was, he just, he was, he's just, he's just, he's up, all the time, he's in-cime,

he's in- chalels, not the chars, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

who is in the middle of the middle of zero-bed of the dollar-forts, too, talking about to Conan McGregor and Charles, Conan, with the truth is he's more high than I, by the way of the way to say,

but he knows that I'm a perigue gigantees to Conan, but respect too, by the story that we've done, by the way to get a more

more than he has been the Michael Chandler but he's a lot, some of the guy perigoso, he's a guy that bad too sick, and he can't

but I'm the next person, but I'm the next everyone knows of this, I'm the next I'm the next I don't have to do do you know what I

have been first to be able to be the next disaffiant but it's all it can't happen for the best of the way to be in there

and he also also can't and be able to do you know, there's not there's much to say we're going to we're going to

we're going to say, oh I'm going to do you're doing we're doing we're all the we're doing what the Zufu

we're going to have to think we're going to say to say we're going to have to be going to be to be able to

we can't think what going to think he could he could be able to Michael Chandler he may

he kind of he may be kind of getting a really a really very much he's very

very great especially in Europe in the States but if he could be four

defotas in five luts and so of the F.C., without to the Mayweather

you think he may maybe he probably in terms of ranking he will continue he will

continue to he will be that the guy who will be the corner the corner the

corner is a man he may the way he makes the that I like, but every one a lotado comes in his own, but

the one is a man who maynest all the respect, is a man who's coming in a maria run, being of four deros in a year, but it's part, the lute is,

is high and bad, but the guy, where, where, where, you know, where he's always talking, I was living multidowns, it's a mann't

a respect, as a lot, for him, much money to the UFC, and he's a way more than more than,

so, and it's a time of your life, Mahathev, who has been to defend the centuron to Vokanovsk,

so I'm like to put the two in the same the vencerer of your your last time there's the the same time in

the Mharachev, was that you had in mind to make sure, let's pass a lutev with Vokanov's to see what

would be to happen and then try to your destiny? Man, real, when when

when it when it was when it was my ultimate my last my last was this, it's

good for me of this time. So, So, like, God built those guys to the February. I think that this is the time when I'm looking now. And then, you're not in the final of the year, for the defense

to the total, not, for the to fight with the title, so it's more important. And pasted some months, there's the Lutte-Evna, in Abu Dhab, comment on the sentiment with relation to that luther, even though it's engasged, and it even more specifically the form that the the fight was.

Man, see just, it's very simple. Who, who who accompany the Charles Olivero, the The guy who who's who saw me know,

he's only this. It's just days and days. I don't have to say, I don't have to

keep retruking or batting. Or isn't better than you know in that you did 10% of what I

did. And he took the he took to he, he don't have a cause of

nothing, simply you're just there's there's there's things and I don't

see this and I'm going to talk, we're just to work to whatever to do

whatever to make the most of the to do happen happen. You said that's

that you say that's that you're not going to see this but you have seen the roadas

and then because this lot is different? Because this lot I'm not really simply

not really I've got a night really I've been a night I'm not not yet

you've got to take a souca and batte and this not was I know I'm

from the moment that I'm not I'm not I'm those phalastrans those who live in internet

to to be trying something to say B.S. They're going to say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, but the

people are in whatever one of the question of the question, if you've seen the 10% of the Charis Duton.

If they were 10% of Chars, I said, you never was my fan, never me never seen.

It's simply that's just, no-telling. There's a point, took a knock-doubt, took a peddata, take,

to try, I'm trying, to try, does, does part, he's part, he's, he's probably

he's probably, MMA. He previsable. You error the guy to finalize, you, you know, the car to know the caltea. You know, that's it. This fight, I don't know he.

Enting. And, and this lot, is more merit of the guy, or you think that's, that's, the fact of you not have been done? If you

did you have been able to him, what you did you feel of the guy in that night? No, there's no way.

Lutas are allude, allude, all all the night, he was better than I, in that night, I don't know,

I'd I'm not sure that if I would if I'd like that, if I don't know if I'm not going to make a chance, or whatever else, it would be a great fight. It's complicated. You don't exist, you say, I'll enter there and go finish that guy in that way.

You don't exist. No, there's just you know, you can do you know, you can't do you know, you're going to say. You know, we're talking to great names, we're talking to professionals, we're talking of great supporters, you know, that merits respect, so it's a bit, so it's a bit. You, in the end of the end of the

I don't know, you know, maybe cedied in a creed of a bra so, in a fight in a bout d'n't to be able to be in front of the real? No, being serious, no, I'm erred

of other forms. I, I reigned in other forms. But, car, this battle has been passed, no, it's not a lot, you're going to say, oh, I'm with the bra so, I don't have to the brazener.

The media will say that was saying, ah, it's going to give the excuse, So what passed, let's have It's what, it's just what, this is just was It's just over, it's just over,

I have to be able to, I don't have to be talking, I'm going to be giving a disupup A we, the team knows, that we did, what we're going to

not for us have made, and we did it, and it's to finish up, over the way, you're going to, you're doing that's active

for a cacete, he's a car in a place, working, working, doing business, to spend your image

to the past your there's, there's a team there more than 20 people to

do the people are the world of this is a guy, this guy gigantees here in

Brazil, how he's being to deal with this one new botin that's a thing that

I've seen the first in a tournament of a tournament in this media

that's that's this thing he's turned on in Brazil yeah I think

there probably 30 people working with with working

great great platforms I always I always I always said about that's about what you want to

you want to be about you can get to make so when we're about it's to start this bulge of MMA not so MMA

not the people just the MMA to know the so we're doing other things also, we're doing things new

things new are coming this week this week this month this month this time some more

some more some more some things more things more some I'm just to do make a post

also to make a post to the guy to put a cache of the question to go over to see if the guy's a lot of the

grander, you know, trying to evolve every more, trying to grow more, trying to do Charles of the Broncos

can't grow more, take the BORNMA continue to happen to happen and bring great things, people are

people working with more than people working for me, you know, so it's very important, people gravann,

people postano, we're trying. And what what's been in your life, because, before you'd train to go to to go to house, relax, to see a television, you'd, listen to, hear a music, and now, I don't know,

I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, you're going to, you're going to try to train and say something, always, you're always in some place. A we have to understand, the, fans have to understand one thing, see, so. What did it, Charles to be the charles?

The lute, the training. So, this no, this, this can't end up, we need to continue training, I'll continue to do that, I don't I'm going to all I'm going to post on

all I'm going to and the person's where you know where you don't train where you don't train where you don't train every day, I'm trying to train

because I'm chikadion does part we have to train to do it happen but today but today like you you said I was back

to ask us but today I have more things to do more time so I'm in because nobody is

for people going to get to be 2444 working and doing everything and trying to do you

do it's we don't we can't do it so we're So, Logic, I have more

more than I'm doing this time. I have a lot of time, I'm doing this time, we're doing into the car so, now,

today there's more people, today, we're people who are people who are people who are doing with, something like,

you know, I was going to get a car driving, and there was a day that was a time, but

I have people who do you, people who do do you, do you, so, the, the things became

more easy, and the I just have to do my paper. My paper was simply just train, train, train,

today, I have to trainer, I have to trainer, to try to do you have to work, so whatever you have to the time,

and I had to be to the local of the local of the time, and take the other, and I think,

the most important of you're going to be happy. If you're feeling, with all the you're doing,

you're doing, when you're not a job, when you're not fairer, so I'm I'm happy with all I'm doing

so I'm very gratitude, I'm very great to God, for all the God's been proposing and it comes to happen there's always

all the positive because you said you're always, you're a life better for your family, for your family, for your career,

but there's just a thing chatt about to be the Chalice, that you're more disconcited, that was just

the ball of M.A. that you could be in the end of something so so pertubbed so what the more you'd

feel like, yeah, in real, I'm going you say, I don't even feel like I've seen with

everything I've been living today, so I'm very great, but so you, you're not more than a

person normal. You don't get in the market, these things, not more to be made to be made to be

so much. So, so, never a little, happy to God, because God

is me proposuring these things, I'm so I'm so, I'm really man,

and then, but I see, this days you posted on a car,

a car, talking of boiada and are investing in this area also is a guy that's always always been a car that's

like a car by the agriculture professional by the animals so with so we've been working with a cat or there's

a man there's a there's a gardener there so I'm so my passion I've always

I've always I've been getting a house and I'm a finding a looking like that we're doing

we're talking about this don't have a Fasanda but it will happen to get, but it's a carmion

just there a lot of there's a lot of time there's just to get a little your cellar your own work

to get a little bit more a lot of the front of the FECC the fourth Luttonne the fourth lute for them

for the goal to what's your expectation for this for this Luta for this

Cuntor for Pottan to maintain as a being being being being like opinion opinions, so opinions,

not even if we're doing, the people feel like this just said, but you've got to my opinion. If you're looking at all the

Mutas of Boatang against the Bautan, when you can't get that hand in the last time in the last time,

it could make the story, I can't make an guy very experienced, he's a guy for that he's a really in that he

he's over, I think that this lot of Bautan with Adesana, I think the more aggressive than he was

more aggressive than he's going to before, because if you see see the other the other lutez, the Adesani was like the won't know the goal. The Boatang was was winning the round, and then

that one connected and made happen, the, after the Conner said, yeah, it's now, the knockoutes, it does happen, I think the Adesan he not will err in this this, but he was wrong in a final zine, you know, he's with a series of victory. I see him in Australia, he's

far, he's strong, he's, he's he's a champion. The Boatan has to do it. to be more aggressive in these haldes, to the adesana R, and the hand of Boatan peg, the Boatan has a hand very pesada, connect very

very well the goalys, so I think the time of the real deal is this, to make the adhesion and not be waiting to go to the last round, because I think this time the Boatan not will err, the Adesana not will err, man. It's a lot that's 3 a 0, but

are three-juts super-equilibrated, if you had to put the your dear-in, and to make the No one who you think you who wins and that's true. Yeah, I'm always

I'm supposed to in Brazil. I always go to post on the Brazilian. Independent, if you're American train with me

or not, I'm going to poste no, I know, I know, I see the what's the question, a we,

a lot of to do you post it, I post it, I poste, I'm to poster, I'm also talking,

I think that the Bautan have to be much more more aggressive than he was in all the

other luts, because I think this this time the I'm saying I don't ever, I think he

not will err I'm sure, thank you guys for your time in this time in this year this year's yeah,

I'm sure man, I'm a rebent in the next those, those those problems there, the next few

the next time, the fores of the octagono and that the victory and the title, and I'm sure,

so much than the time it's always it's always that's talking to you're talking to get to guard now,

but we're more than Juno, the blessings, go to the day 6th of May, it's a gente, to be the same as well. Endo who's going to be the moment.

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It's an embaladishol. A bit of a bit more than to put in front of the goldsendron. But first, well, be in the podcast. How are there, a few days, to say in a month, to say in a month. Hi, Gilearn. Pleasure I'm talking

with you talking with you know about I'm very very prepared for being competing, doing what I

am I'm and I'm I'm all I'm sure for the last time for the you've been

a good sequence just three victories with a knockouts with finalizations in the

last a lot really a lot you know against you a preett with

a punch you're really badalado in the organization, much battled in the MMA, that not lived his own

his own his own he did that dispute with Logan Storley interion. Many of the people think he

won't he ended in the decision. Then he did the box and luvies in but this

not takes the importance of the matter, for more that the part of his phase of

not because he can be a victory the Cituron so this transfer to you too

transfer to you too no like you this is not significant much

a lot and it it's it's it's I'm sure I'm going

I'm sure that he's well he's not he's not a lot of

a lot of a lot important for me and for me and for he will us

credence to be to be the next or who people to get

the title so I can take certain I'm going to

get this a very so with much a

much a sobre El Mosop and but this this is the first first is the first part of

important so you're the guy of Jujito always but have shown in the last last

the last the two knockouts there in the last three victories and this is the praia

he is a striker he is a guy a very very creative how is how you see this

duels is really the greper against striker or you are a guy more more

Basically, there's only the trocaation, you know? I think I'm a guy really much

more complete than the Michael Page. And it's but it's seeing, viewing the our repertory,

and the record, with a a duel of styles, uh, this is MMA, not I'm

to try to box, or kickboxing with him, I'm there to do what I need to do what I need to

do it, and if I have to do it to try with him in I feel I feel I'm a whole with him

no problem no problem no problem no I'm going to to get to to get the victory

and what have to do I'm do you're better than he is a striker? 100%

with certain so you want to three rounds for this lute yeah the bell atoll

have been done has done the five rounds there the tour the war

was of nineman was the the LUTA principal, you think to be three rounds and it's a benefit from for someone? If you'd have

been a lot of five rounds with him too, a lot principal? With certainty, this is, this is the longer more, it's

going to be favorable for me, but this not say that not be for three rounds, because my first round is

a fortisome, maybe one of the most the MMA today, if you go to the majority, I'm a guy that

finalize a lot, and the majority of them in the first round. I have a first round very round very round very round very hard. So I believe that whatever, it's going to be

a vantage for me. And if not for, I will make it I don't want to him. What you've learned in the fight of his country?

That for more that he had had been given, in a decision, many people think he woncees. Because the Logan Story put up to

back back and not did practically nothing, no, In fact, I don't have seen inters, but what I saw, it did you know

there's a lot break in a game agarred, no, in the grappling, but I'm different to Story. I'm not over

Story. Story, he doesn't finalize. Story, he has been to show, in the

world, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he not a, he's not a, he's not a lot of Jitzo, the Miko,

the Michael, Kage, not, he not will even he's he has

passed that he has been passed that he's kind of taking a superfocus of a guy

that's a greper of your real, he makes he even more exposed that he

he's a good a man a guy a a man but if if he

for the wall you just a a opportunity that you get

he. With it I'm I'm not so Logan Story

he doesn't do do you do does he He does

how it's called scrambles but very scrambles even for wrestling not a

guy who he's a guy who got in he goes to he goes to do you I don't

I don't I don't me record to see he finalizing putting a jiu-jitsu refined in

some of some of an guy who really dominions the guys trying to

put down back back and making that that that

that not my my job my job is totally different I am

a I'm a guy, I'm a peggard in the hour that I put a time to put to the

gym, jiu-jice, kids, to today, it's all to finalize, and if I put it to put him

to put him to go to make it by making this victory, even more, maybe you know, maybe probably,

it's a great, and very probably it's sacrament that you will despot the centuron, not you can't be certain

never you know never you never you know but I'm it makes total sense that you disputs centuron

against Homosov, who who's he went to the time he's retocable countered countered,

he's retocable, counterststoric or amassed the guy. What do you think he as he kind of?

He really is the guy, who's he's actually as he like a MMA

there. Well, the Amasov I think he an excellent athlete. Sincerably I never

I don't even to see even a entire of but when

when it I go I will I will assist I don't I don't know to assist

the lot of the but I know, he's not he's a champion for a

case, he's a excellent athlete, but I'm a competitor of him, I'm

a rival of him. So, my vision is different about, I'm

talking about this about this about my vision, my vision, not can't

create a monster into my mind of the thing that I want to know,

but the only thing we're eventually we're eventually we're going to I will gain

of him? You said that you know the last time the last not a lot after the last month, you're in in

ultimately, I'm doing, you're doing, you're doing, I'm doing, and time, but much energy, trying to disvendar some, something to do you,

I see that the game, it's not, what we're going to do, not what we have to expect, the,

do the, the other I don't not to be to be able to to be so, so,

the final of the year, you get the Mossov and then the cintrown to the

Belatot to Brazil. Perfect. I want to bring this to Brazil. More a a centuron

for the I'm, I'm loco to put my that the hour will get and she's

this year this timing with the time in it's a very much and get to get to Amosov which is this

guy 26, 27-0 that many people think is the number one of the division even if you

will encounter the UFC because Usman just was he was he was

a guy was a he was he was he was he came in the last time

in the last time you have you you know he puts as a

the best middle medium of the world, independent of organization? If you question to

me, with certain getting, getting, and I'm going to be the number one because

we're so we're we're the competitors, but so the Amasov he needs

very, I don't concorded much that he is the pound for pound of all the

events because not it's not it not it not it can't the

quality of the quality of the but he have practically the most of the

John Jones. Not to compare him with John Jones. He's not he's lought with a lot of so he's got to be tested

and I'm I'm a lot to testate and also to wince it will be done a lot more that's very

good. The other side of now we have the Bruno Boudoggino that on the last time after

after a lottock after after how is being the emotion to finally have been in few moments of to calce

a luba, enter in the octogoro, are over the holoforts going to the porrida de

no, we're really happy and it's living off, train-in- what we're doing what we do that we

do that's doing all do that I'm glad in a son boating- now I'm quite I'm

pretty pretty we're just we're in that's a little more serrada but

come there feel-e well we're in a vibe to the next Lute then you

Manteve Tantive so time you're being in an boughed with a Bucc

with two bellissom's in 2021 bonus as two full, it's all it's just the moment

to get this time all parted the the ground not a not a problem

so in these two years imagine yeah exactly thanks to God so

so I've had a less a lot of a lesion, but if if it was a hour

certain to have a time, it would be this hour, after the two bonus, after the

time. I'm nothoke my tornadoes, for practically my, I was my,

I was a time back, and also not not a not really, it's

not a pretty first lesion my in-junt, so, was my tornosel,

so, I took to do this surgery, I went to Brazil, I went to Brazil, I went to three months and I'm

a recuperation was of six, six months, a year, more or less. So I'm going to me recuperating, and I went,

and I got a lot of the because of this lesion, that I had to get to get to be to be a

time, and, it was difficult to be without, but it passed a little, I'm focused in

other things too, not, out of the but now we're in back there's all the vapor

going to go back up up to see you imagine how it's been difficult I'm I'm sorry

the turnozeal playing football this sport very violent and and I did

I'm I'm I'm a year so I'm until I could get going to

do something but I'm sitting writing writing and interview so

on my day and even it was really really to be limited. Imagine that for you,

it's been to have been a bad man, a manned a guy accustomed to train all the day even without having to be

a lot marked, have been to get to be a lot of the first years, I've been

I've got to put the foot the foot the foot, it was very difficult this phase then

but I'm like, I'm focused in other things too, I've been training for

more of 10 years, in this pegada of training, training, so it was like, it was kind of

kind of kind of being a little much more being a little things, understanding the lot, analyzing

and raising a other other side, you know, like studying the other the other from the world

to the side of my life in other things. It was difficult, but there

had a lot of good, the world to the Brazil, I got to my

family there and and it passed very rapid, for it was very bad the fact of, it passed

very rapid, now I'm training, me feeling very, and it's that's the what you

have been more, like, as a athlete in this time, studying, what's,

what's, what's, what's, the more , it was, it was, it was,

analyze, the game, analyze the game, analyze my career, how it, like,

came, there in the beginning very difficult, I think the way and I think that it's

I'm going to be I'm so I'm also also as a athlete I'm

know, after these two last I was was seeing many other things

I don't see the other the other the person starts to have more experience

and I think this time I'm just studying and I know studying

and stuff and seeing what I could do I'm doing in my

my I believe that I I believe I've got used a lot mentally in my strategy of

the game in the those pensations like in the like a lot but but studying

the game but mentally mentally because physically not to do you know to do

now and put now the city of back so on who is a guy

quite different too before before even to get to the

he was a car was a some time that he had to be in the future. He had his alt

and he was going to a victory for a car, how you think you the game

between you're not a lot a good a good I'm I'm I'm

I'm so, so the guy, no, that's a man, a man,

a lot of people, with many people, with much people, I've been to respect

the car when the car, I'm many more than the FC, there even

more than I, so, we respect the but I mean I not care not to be

not but we have to be so I think much better than he in all the areas of the lot

me think I think the game he's more a box there he doesn't he not very

very versatile no he doesn't put it to really it's a lot it's a game

more box maybe that is good too I'm not nocautian a guy with that

he's the one the one that I'm more a lot of that's in all the

areas of the game and also he's got a little rode out of 39 I know

that's not 39 and it's not a because I am with 32 to do do you

see the difference in the training I don't I'm in the so

it's difficult man it's difficult this life of this life of

the life not it's not a level not it's

I think it's a I think it's a lot good for me the guy is that in the top 15, now, he's top 15,

he's in the rankings of UFC so it's a lot of me for me, I think. And you do you

know, I know, I'm not caughte you I'm, I'm gonna callteer, I'm gonna

get to get a good, the world is also more, more a bonus there,

no, Yeah, but a knockout and more a bonus, this is the meta, you know? I hope that did all right, it's all right, it's just to be, you know? Just to finish up, you're a guy that's a lot that's quite close to the Cerrodo, you know, in the last time, you've had an opportunity

for this proximity with him, to train with a lot's level, with the limite Johnson, who, was the rey of your division in the FC, for, during, you, I don't know, a decade,

there's, there's a, I imagine that you know, I'm sure that you know, that's a guy, but the

guy's huge, but how he has been these last his own time, and there's this opportunity to train,

especially with with Cerudo and with Dimitio Johnson, yeah? Wow, yeah,

I'm, yeah, I'm, there, I'm, I'm, I'm, think,

so, caracac, man, I'm, I'm even, I'm living all this

all all, I'm, Like, Oh, the idols, I, I've trained my

whole, being the Mitter's trying to imitate the car because I'm the best, you said, I mean,

you said, I mean, the title, the UFC, well, the car is the Galtz, yeah,

that the people, the better that's the category of the flight weights. And, well,

I'm back now, we're trying to try with the Zerud, so I'm, the car

gigante in MMA, yeah, I'm there, like, living all that all right, the guys, me know,

me respect, you know, it's, it's really, really, very gratificant, I don't have been,

porras, I'm, I'm madden, and also to be able to learn the guys there,

poor, damn, man, no, there, no, that, what,

that's, there, don't, where, there, try to, Demetri's Johnson,

, Er, R. Reds, R. Cerrodo. The John Jones was here

too, came here many times, he played here several years, we know, Sehudo, like,

the coach, like, he's, helping the car, doing the stock, training in John Jones, man,

do you know, does this all right, but we, we're, we're, we know, we're,

like, like, like, like, like, he, like, everyone doing

the time, so- he's- me, the way of his so humilded, so he is. You know, you say, car. I'm trying to, damn,

I'm trying to give him to John Jones, oh, caram, John Jones, like, he, never needs to say nothing to say, man, he says,

he says, he's all, you know, but you're, the look, so, you have to practice, practice,

to, learn, and do you know, and, do the day, the trainingment, a practice, practice,

practice, practice, practice, practice, I, as a man, has many areas, you always always have

much things to learn a lot, many things new, every one teach a detail there, what,

he's been a special for carama this year yeah, yeah, poor, I'm a marradown

here, gratis for all, I'm just thank to do what's happening, you know,

to do the altos and backos and, oh, peris-ous- man, peris-

my moral, I'm here in the States United, P, living the my

dream, I don't want to be the good, the best of the sport. It's

there's a way, this is the only thing that's going to get to get the bonus to

get all the to get all all the all the all the time, and the we've been

a time, we've seen a guy in a action, he will go back against

the direct in the Diput of the Cintr what we can't

he can he can't throne of the FCA? That's how much! The guy is casca gross, man. Cascarroza,

and he, he got, he was forced and he never, but he went to parable, then he went to train,

he, he, he, he, he said, for the country, in the world

of the MMA, he's doing, like, video on YouTube, studying the car, commenting the people,

so, the guy, he, he has a vision of fore. Who can see the vision of a little of

far, but you see more more things, you know, like a coach out of the octagon. The guy

is seeing the that you're there's a there's not there, so no see, so he has a view of

the loop, studied many the calls, know, he knows a lot of the game, know what

works, know what doesn't, and, boy, he's, he's training a lot

time- there, before, not, he's, it's, like, a year

parado, and always is trying, always is in the academy, the guy, and he's a little there, a school, there's a school of

wrestling here, that's one of the country, if not the best, he will be there train, then,

man, the man, so, yeah, the life entire, yeah, the life entire, if the car,

not training in the academy, the car is training, in the television, is training,

explaining, speaking, he, trying to, doing, so, so, until when he

, When you're there with the family You see that You saw that guy, saw that he's a boy? That's your subrino That's your subrino? That's all right.

That's all the moment The studio, so, so you know, Sehru-da-Monstraud A lot, we don't know what will happen

The Stirling is there, the guy bravo, champion, but, but this Rood will I think he

will knockoutia you, can dominole this Lutteer, or be a lot of and you don't know but with the

sure he's a man, he's a monster man, he's like here in the academy amassing everyone

so on the other side of line, we have you know, there's a year of the different

there's a thing, it was a part of nothing, par, Marcos Maluk and pulled him in a

lot of a box in the event of George Magidal well, how is how it

came this convict how it was a how it was for a lot to pick a

Dura with a guy who, boy, batte a peser in a sport that not your prairie, you know, you're a guy more of the Grapin, the M.MA. How is it? How has all this opportunity good way? Guy, Gailer, yeah, people.

Oh, man, good time. He was in a train of wrestling, I mean, I, I'm looking. And said, you know, Malu? What do you think he does a lot of box? I'm saying, I'm doing whatever, man. I'm not. He said,

po, I, I said, I'm going to you offer so I'm going to a lot of box.

I said, more than I was more than I was in my F. I said, it's a boy,

can put, could put, put. I said, I said, who's the time that I have the time

he said, oh, he said, oh, that's the first of the same, I said, I'm going to

focus to focus to box, get to better, to make to make to make

for this lot there and like, but it's obvious we're like a guy

but I'm a lot of the focus of the lute is batting the guy so I know I'm

my opponent I've seen he's a guy cany he's a guy he's a arm

principal there's a man who does I'm I'm just I'm just I'm desk so I'm

just so I just so I I'm just but I'm more distance to can't my hand the front

is the front is the so I I'm so I'm So he does the same to Dess, but he's

a minor than I, the guy who who's not in category 7, you know, the style of he's a big,

because I'm a good, because I'm a guy of distance, so I'm so, Malo, is an awesome, but I'm okay,

I'm doing, but I said a victory, so I'm a bit of I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm not, because I'm

also I'm Desta, but when I'm JNUK, I'm Canyot, I'm still, MMA, it's all sports of demolive,

it's difficult, yeah, it's difficult, Exactly. All right. All right. For sure. What I have

in this level of of lot of going to to box that's going to the guy can't the part of

the part of the person obviously everyone doesn't want to get to get in

but I think you are primarily a mutator of MMA you're going to get to get to get

to get to get the the result of the lot not it he not

he not he can you want to get to get to get to the same

I want to enter to to gain, I want to enter, like, I'm a guy competitive, everything I do, everything I do do you know, I'm doing,

even if I'm like, say, look, look, the way he got, because the majority of the people are in a

look at least and visiting in the money that he would be going to be going to be this

disgrasable, you know, I'm going to be able to battle to be to be real, if the guy, I'm going to

do this guy, I'm back to batting him in a carterter so he's not So, if you're going to enter in a sport, you have to understand that you have to be competitive. I'm going to win, car.

And I'm training the duro to gain. You, I'm going to do. If I'm going to do another thing. I'm going to do another thing, man. I'm not going to do you. Because I'm putting my name in the game, the game, my legado, independent of whatever thing.

So, I'm not going to be to be able to me divert. I'm going to be to be to bathe me tobert. I'm going to bathe and to do my better in the car. I don't know what will happen, but I'm going to go to win I'm going to win to win, car. And I want, I want to crescent in this thing thing. Because if I saw that I have an opportunity to do something legal

too, I'm going to do. And it's why open the door to me, too, maybe things in MMA, but I have to gain. In the world of the lute, you have to tell me one thing. If you want something, you want to get something, you have to gain. That's the word final. No importance what you're going to do,

you have to do, car. You have to how the day that you pay, even? Oh, $300 $300? It's nothing But, the guy that's getting $27 million

and he's going to pay him $300 for a just because the guy didn't shoot the bunt of his buntar him was $300 for a session of sparring with him

Yeah I remember that he did this with a guy, the Raus trained with him before he did to go to

he also he did a sparrer with he there was more yeah and I don't know what it was

but for but at least the Raus said to me that he and the car was very very very did the big, the mine, it did the borderer of

he wanted to be in the ring to me pick up he came to get a socket in my nuka because I'm to provoke him

he came to get used to get used to get rid of his own on the guard, I had to

I began to do a blisked him in the line of the center then he he got he took the

he sawke the he's sorry the he's he started to get to get so I'm

and the pantodge he still was in the pantog he was infii on him,

he'd be able to man. You think he contracted you're trying to you're obviously to help him but he didn't

he'd be that he'd be able with him. No, I think in the matter because, the pantos

I was with the cellar in the phone I said, I'm saying, film there, he didn't

go, he didn't go to the cellar on the car was filming to a camera on the camera,

and when when I'm this video and the people are, the car said, no,

it's just the video for he technique of his time he's got him, he took a video of him, he knocked out of these guys are in

sparring. Or he said that's a man, look this car man, he, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he's, too, so he's, soju, that's like, he,

he's not posto, he, in the can't, the hand, the armzion, the hand, the person, when you see

that the guy talking, the guy, the guy, you know, I think, so, so,

so, I'm, very, very, bad, bad character, me, man, I don't goce it's all right. I said, I said, why the guy no post my video with him?

No, I don't know what he, he's going to see, right? Yeah, there's a time, right? But there's a lot. I was there, I'd have to say,ke with a lot of the buntar, like, with him, that, Ben Aske. And it's, he, after what you

saw he, he did have been the loser, then he was over, then he was over, he, he went to do with two Grapp, me. He, not took two guys grabper, me. The guy, don't know,

like, like, do a jab, like to be at distance, the car don't have a movementation, like,

like, not a striker, don't it, not a striker. The under a striker, the striker, is a strike,

is a strike, brought to say, that's a man, it's a man, who's a

man who's a lot of a company, take the idea? Entealue? So, and you know,

and you see clearly that the guys entered there, more with the value to gain

in the than the victory in in the opinion, Anderson Silva Ben Askin and Taruud, they're in

they're in this head out of this case. Ah, man, the poor, I'm going to get a

good, I'm going to put, I'm going to be this YouTuber playboy, but I'm thinking that

the world is a man, the way, I'm in the way, you know,

so you go, so I'm got, so much, he's, he's, he entered in a

different, a guy professional, the fact, of course, but, but I'm not there

He's confronted great of the entire his own he's a professional of boxing,

no, yeah, exactly. If you look, he looked, all the guys that he

looked at were a boxer. All of the guys that he looked at a boxer, and no, he said,

oh, I'm going to get a money with this guy, no, the guy, he was a

person, that was, he had a guy, he said, the car, said, he said,

he said, he said, it's a, with a old, with Jake, Paul, no,

all the guys He'll say that you can't get a gun, I don't get him. The only, the proper Tommy Fury, in the Lutta, gained $7,000,000 of dollars, and the

Jake Poe, did in the Lutta, gained $20,000, $21,000, 27, say, that. P, then, you see the head of the guy, and when you look to a guy of the box, he's doing his

life of his entire, he's allende, he's a scheme, he knows the time that dur the three minutes. The Lundator of M.A. He is five minutes. The hand that he jogging

is to make to make going to the man to to make because if you're passing you're going to drain the gas

you're going to go to the gas if you pass the arm, one of the what you do do you do you dochey,

get to be getting to get to talk and be the time to be a not MMA it's another thing, so

it's a whole thing I'm doing this I'm doing this I'm doing my chavin until the day first

going to see the time, I'll see how I'm going to the fight the last you

this experiment the day the day before that he he, I was talking of a revanch

of him but I'm a rewere, but I think the interest after he not be he not going to

be so, you think still there's so there to get a money and continue to make the and continue to

do the he's, he knows, he knows, he knows, he knows, he's able to make the market,

he's got, where he came to work, the world, the world, I'm doing a interview now,

he's talking, he's talking, a guy, he's, he's, he's just He was in this world because he could

do the market of his own he could do do the types of of guys that he had to be a grappler, category

a back, because the Jake Poe, if you were he would have to look to the category of Anderson

Silva. And neither the Airstri and nor the Tyro Wooder are mediums. They are mediums,

so are badgers. So, because he never looked with any a piece medium

maybe? Stryker. So, keep this but it's a guy very intelligent he will

know to be to be able, he will be to be a lot with a other great name or the vealor maybe he's

maybe he's he's gonna to look with him box for bochechecha and you how is it your plan

you will make this a lot of different is that as you said you said he affected a guy of M.A. You're affecting

a guy of M.A. also he's a guy of M.A. also is a guy of Kikovs also, there's a lot of Kik Box in a career

as soon as when you start in M.A. when he's a show in the box now.

And a guy who has been a man who's a man big of the character in the

character, the only your objective is for this look at and take this

and focus more than than MMA or the focus will continue MMA but always

having the opportunity that's I'm a manned I'm am a MMA

you know I'm a for me it's the art martial more complete,

I don't have what I'm it's the art martial more complete that has, and the modality

sportive today, where the has been prepared than all the other other modalities of

sport, not just the lot of the sports that exist, the MMA is the

you have to be more better better so, even because it's a sport just individual.

You know, it's not in group, you can contact with a other car, or one

thing, and stuff. I'm, I'm going to because when you know, when you see,

you're going to see that you know, it's not, you know, because it's difficult for him to find out of the last

year, I, I came to the Brazil, I got the Cinturion of Thunder Fight, I've

I've got a year, I've got a little bit of a new year, but it's probably, it's 14 and

six guys that were out and they didn't want, so, I'm, I need to be

not really because I need to be in a rhythm of the rhythm of a time, motivation, and the

we live of this. So, me appears an opportunity this, it's a opportunity to

I put to all this in day, my motivation, the money, because I need to pay my account,

I have a child, so, so it's an awesome for it. And also, because I'm going,

I'm doing my first little box in a car where is the Rai John's Jr.

contra the, the, Anthony Pett's, all right, but Roy Jones Jr., my first first fight of

a tithe this, have a Belfor, the Jacare, there's, there's, the Aude, Stephens,

so, po, for me, it's awesome, it's obvious I'm going to get that, I'm going to

try that, and I'm trying to get to there and to show to the world, for the world, for what I'm

many of the many ways, and as you know, the incentive financial is very very great, I don't know

if you need to reveal a value values, but when when you compare with the relationship to

what you get in the FC? You're getting the double that you get in the UFC? Triple.

Triple. And will have this event now and it's a Mayo, and it's he said to

me, man, Opa, let me go to get me, it's it's, it's,

so, so, so, so in two months, you're going to go in two minutes,

in two minutes, you're going to get in six in NIC, right? Exactly. Exactly. How is

how you you can't this battle this this is a lot of some round for the second round because it's a

for mail to be a with a point out of you know a thing got to get a little yeah I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna he made this he put this lute with the pole

he I just said for he said I'm in a lot with the pole of his but I don't see, I just a substitute on the

the Jacaray and the Belfort. If some the one, for favor, I want to fight with

a coca one of the two. And, poe, I'm going this lot of

the carre or Beofor getting there, then, so, po, yeah,

I have a thing, and the two guys, like, and I would be, it would be

a good, because it would be a one of the two other luts? Or not? No,

no, the lot, the lot the lot of the world 190, scupe, 190.

190 kilos, 190 pounds, it's 86 kilos, it's almost 86. And it's the jacarek and Vito? Probably it probably be

200 and something 200, 205 that would have done, 90, 91, 93 kilos. Probably maybe it's but for me it's good, because it's my weight.

And for one opportunity this that, you know, but if you fudge, you so go ahead, you so sobbed a little there, you don't know,

I was a lot. I said, but if happened to some about the lot of the one of the two I want to do. I'm going to

say I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to stand too bad just to be just to be able this card here. Who do you

what you think you think you in the UFC the Jacare knocked-o in the Grand E-pound there and made it

passed a carl you think that pes the battle? You think he's

he's just he has he has moved too too, he's been too, yeah

so yeah I'm going I'm going to say, the Victor is the second that he's a second that's

all the first he's not, he's not, with all respect I think that the real estate, I think that's the last time,

the attitude in the final of the lutele man, the more that's the most of the most of the sameusional,

no have to say, come here, come here, he's a hand the man to come the term you

you used actually, man, man, car, more more more, you've, you did to

do, the challenge. There was a challenge, it was a thing, it's a thing, you know,

but I still I think that I'm even think that maybe the last other the last Routes of

all the he, that he didn't have that he's not absorbing that's the end of

the end of but it's what we say, the two are the two are the two are

the event of the two are the event of not there's no- So, like, the two guys will be cusping the veneno. So I don't know, but I still think the Belfour

gain, but my team is for Jacaree. You think the Antony Pest can't make some a great-grace to try against Roy Jones? Ah, car, I think he's difficult, man. I think he's difficult, I think, I think the Roy Jones will gain in the point-oation, in the point, you know, he'll get on the point, will be making, talking, talking,

the Tony Pettis will try it, he will be trying, he will be trying, and when Dr.Petz fell out, he will be to try, he will be talking, will be talking, the movement inter, Malander, like he

did it, like he did it, with the that's like that's it, no, caram. And the

guys are very a want to know, like, for the age of their to know, to know,

I don't know, I'm not going to say nothing, but I think that's the last, the old of

the Rolfo the Rueboh him with a Succoe on the body, I think the,

the regal the box Mood, something? No, I think will be the same

thing, the same thing, the I think the Aldo even, he's, he's,

a favorite, the more than he in the box, no MMA, no box, I think the Walt also also, even is,

even for, the Aaldo is going to this thing, probably the people, he's going to get in this

lot of, let me, he's in the PFR, yeah, so, yeah, so, I think he

is more focusing on the PFFR and he got for, but the Aldo is with, it's been

he's, it's been, because it was, it's, they were, even, did he,

knew the maybe the weather, it, he did, the water in the shotor, a

lot of box there's a year, he's a general, I think he's a great three luts of course,

he got over no longer, no, no longer in the lute, she made a lot of there,

but it was more than a conversation, he said, he's going to a possible superluta there,

for a world, over the second semester, so I think if the Aldo won't know that's strel if he can't

do the schiffen can make the shiffin, he made recently in a lot of Exhibition against a

guy that a reality show the United there's a last over about a but it's a lot of

public, like it's not a lotto a arena and so if he wants he wants to continue

getting to get to someone who's someone who I think the person who

would attractio the public of MMA yeah he he's he's

he's he's he's at the at the same he's I'm

I'm I'm I think I I thought I said would be exhibition so for my weather, that he would have to

knock out of the United. I think that this could do make that my weather not acete the lot. So, I also I also, because the guy looked, I'm, I'm going to look, put, I'm going to make it to do do this I have to do with the world sport, now I'll make money. Let's

I battene morto, and do you, make sure. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, good, good. Such, in this retina final of preparation, air, for to see in the box, and I'm going to be in the MMA, also, man. Demo, we're doing, thank you.

Thank you, thank you. Thank you, all. All right. day 1st, in Wisconsin, Milwaukee. The hour that the guy is a monster. Porrada will come.

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