MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Exclusivo: Whindersson Nunes fala de boxe e ‘topa’ duelo com Jake Paul

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Whindersson Nunes é um dos maiores YouTubers do Brasil e está brilhando no mundo do boxe de entretenimento. O humorista falou com exclusividade ao Trocação Franca sobre seu começo nas artes marciais, a decisão de levar a nobre arte como carreira, a possibilidade de enfrentar Jake Paul em 2024, e muito mais. O podcast também recebe Junior Cigano, ex-campeão do UFC, para falar da revanche com Fabrício Werdum no MMA sem luvas, o anúncio do duelo Francis Ngannou x Tyson Fury no boxe, e a conquista do amigo Alexandre Pantoja no UFC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Whindersson Nunes is one of Brazil’s most popular YouTubers — and he’s doing great as an influencer boxer. The comedian returns to Trocação Franca to chat about his start in martial arts, kicking off a career in boxing, possibly facing Jake Paul in 2024, and much more. The podcast also speaks with former UFC champion Junior dos Santos about his upcoming bare-knuckle MMA fight with Fabricio Werdum, Francis Ngannou’s boxing match with Tyron Fury, and fellow ATT talent Alexandre Pantoja winning UFC gold. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, Lummium, fan of the Luton, 96th episode of podcast, Trocação Franca,

a sua house about this MMA in this immense podosphere. I'm Gailam Cruz, correspondent of the site American,

on M.M.A. in Brazil, and I'm back on this quarter phone of Wenderson, Nunes, who's a podcast Saturday,

in Atlanta. But, before to talk with him, the popa with Juniors Cagan, ex-campion of the FAC

with Fabrice Verdu, on MMA Senn Lov on 8th September A lotta that people

to surprise a lot of the first the first of the first of the first of the first of the first of

all the car how you're doing this how you're doing when the Rory Amasvidal your friend of America Top Tintch

I'm looking and say man let's re-mobile this but no MMA without

a podcast more a way so you're 15 years after 15 years after

then I I'm so I'm so I was a lot that was was

commented was falada to be a second a second a lot during

all these years, it never happened. So, now it's a hour. I think it

was a very legal there, the Mase Vidal and the team of his team

of the game Brad that are starting very, not, with the events of

the event of the event of the event of the Burr-Nuk M.A. now,

I'm I'm very very impugated, in a very much a lot

that's a lot of a lot of a lot of because, as I said, there's a

hype, there a, an, an, an, an, an, an,

interest in the the fans, will go also, to be to be

this look to see this I'm very, I'm very, I think, it's a lot,

a, more, a lot, without luvas, it's a thing different,

that I never did, and at the first of the first time, when I'm a first when I'm

never a event, there was the proper opponent was the Verdun also, but I

came not accepting by the thing for the Bernaco, I was a, I don't

understand much what I wanted to what was the that was, for me,

it was a, like, so, so, so, not, not

interesting. Everything was legal. The opponent, everything, all the event was interesting. Now the

thing of Berneco was kind of like, a guy, we got in a new idea, I came negating the

first opportunity. And then this second, that had a, you had a, like, to make a

happen, and it's a matter a lot of, I think, for them to them, to the,

for the people, so, they've brought with the proposal, and I had studied

a little of BerNul really, what it was, of the reality, how it would be. And, in the

very I view as an excellent opportunity, not there's nothing different, a no-ser, a little more of the same.

Because all the soco, all the, everyone who get in the car, the thing, it's,

and the face, it's, so it's, it's, there's, there, the,

the, there's, there's, but, but, but, but, no,

no, not a great thing, and, and, so, I think, in the

It's a reality that's an opportunity to to me, I'm at this moment of my career, to have a experience of how was the initial of the MMA there was,

when the guys were not being head-sad, valent, valent, it's going to be so, but it's be pretty of this

without the luba, so for me, I'm, I'm I'm sure today, as a great opportunity,

you know, to, not just to have this experience, but as like to to

to to compete and and conquest let's say to walk the way this

is the major the objective major here you think you think not a benefit for

you think you don't make that doesn't difference we know he's

he's he was majority he was majorityately in the jujitsu, evolved much in

the trocaation with Raphao Corde but you but you are the guy of

box he has chute he has You think not to have luba, does a

difference to your favor in this this lute? I think no. I think no, it's not,

because, let's see, the luvve, in the fact, I have to take to take more care of

his case, I think it's more beneficial for the question of grappling, uh, he will want to say,

to push to the guard, I don't do you think it will happen to happen. So I think it's

more beneficial for the thing of the grappling, uh, because For me, for more

that the socos have been, let's say, abring cortes, machucing a little more, I'm also,

I'm also take to take a much with the soks. The luba is to protect the hand

of the person, not the opponent. So the luba serve for you not to

your hand when you when you are when you're when you're soca we have to

take a lot. We have to take a good to take a good to us

If we're just to just to try a goal, not a good idea. If you're kind of in a case, it's probably to

keep a man. So, have to take to take care with this. Now, I see that it comes to

keep paring, the two things, it's more less like if it was in the question of,

let's say, the chances of victory, chances of derot. You pretend to train out

or the risk of the lesion you will try now a louvina different or I'm

with a, with a, with a protection different in the hand, for the diseaseon? Yeah, it's a

machoca, I've, I've been here a little. I'm still still doing some, some training

in a bit of carateca and batting those madden. But, then, then,

I'm, I'm going to be to the guy, but, but I, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm trying with a box, to batte box, a luva, of box, back, saco,

with, with, with the but but with without a little not to

trainer so it's complicated first that it's the your a guy

a manchew my partner and and in sack I'm back I'm with a

manopla with but normally have been with a a luvver a little

a luv a more a lube more a lous like it was a lupa a

of MMA M&A, I'm these experiences to train to the Lutte you know, you know,

you know, you know, but you're the experience to do this camp, to start this camp now,

you know, it's a experience, one and it was a before I'm to come to MMA

or then I go to box, because this thing with a luba not, not a

thing, that will give, that's not that much future, we, you know,

like, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I was very, very embolded with the game Braden in the event of Masvidal. The guys, the guys,

came to work for a man, they're doing to be in-a-normal. They're doing happen to, for that I

say, I'm very because the possibilities there in there are many, many,

and I, my my main mind was to go to box, try the box, to do box, to do box,

that's a thing that is a the world of box, it's not so simple to be to finish a lot,

the people say a lot but, but also not so simple to be sure to finish a lot

so, but now, I think the thing, it's a thing, a direction, a direction

different, and, I, I, I, the, the analysis I did,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the Lutta Sien Loova, it was the conclusion that I came to say, this, there's no, I don't see, the question of the courts

and the danger to quibre a man. These two points are the, the two points, are the rest, is equal, you know,

so I, I'm seeing, doing other other luts as too, of Bernankel, if were, obviously,

so interesting as this. And this will be a revenge 15 years after that he's a first year he's

a start on the car of the Cintoron you know the first round, much thing

moved to back back you're both are ex-campions of the FC he he's out

for the NFL you went to the little that was that was

unfortunately lesioning the armro but how how you see you

see getting in this reencont and how you are in these

two moments to readit that lot? I, well, of me,

I'm, I'm well, I'm, everything all in these last last last few last

the last they were, they're not represent, you know, who really I'm really I'm, I think the

the lot, we're we're we're having having to have to a, a lot

day, to be to be prepared, to And, and, we'll say, we're,

we're, we're, like, like, but the the peso, the pace, the pain of

MMA is a difficult, it's a difficult, because not there's a term,

or you train a pesed, or you train in a high performance, or not will be

, you know, and or, like, any other other sport, car, can, you can

try who can be there, train, a time, or 10 days with a

we're here, my man, my man, the train is very peser, I think not have a notion, exact, of how difficult is this, and you, the athlete of MMA in-se, convive with the pain, like, as well, many the truth of the doctor, with the rest of course,

and the other day, you know, If there's, if there's any doubt or any discomfort, it's going affect to more psychologically

than the your part physical. Because physically I, I, rarely, I,

like, 100% no, there's a lot of I've reached a lot of but I

rarely I really, some, something, something, something, you know, then it,

so it's complicated, we have to expect to a whole moment. And, and,

The last This moment I was living I was more I still still, you know, I'm still,

you know, and I'm really for the most, for the most opponents. It's a situation

is a difficult, but if you go, let's say, analyze the the luthas, as I've

made, I'm, I remember of some situation, I don't know, I'll look the,

and I see that I've heard for, for, so, I'm, I'm,

I'm, or, or, or, or, or for, or for, or for,

not see the strategy, how I would have been, have, to, or,

let's say, trying, obviously, trying, doing, obviously, trying to do the,

the, but, a, uh, me, precepting, in, in,

the, those, those, the, not so, during the but but in the

head I imagine that the Verdun enter exactly in the lot of

you too because in that opportunity I said you were the strentent you were the disconecid

he had all the pressure on him and he he said he not trained

how he not trained how he never was a not was to be in that way

to set of you sort of you're being never a business and he was

in the boot of centurone so then you think the the

lot now will be more because he is a athlete better than 15 years and because

he's not going to be a lot fast. The lute is a lot of we never

know how will be going to be prepared that we be able to be able to be sure

I think I think that the question of the first the first the first

I've been I think I'm I'm I'm I'm a

very prepared to the and a a little more strategic,

trying not to not be able to put into for this I'm talking to push to the guard

I don't dovide I don't dovety that because obviously the grappling of them

I think is the the best the ground the the heavy

those pesats so I I'm I see he's exploring

this side so but obviously he has the

Muait there will to look but I I'm extremely confident and I'm

ready to do you're like I'm doing the first first time I'm the first it might

have subestimated or not or so it's like it I don't I don't I don't

I don't attribute that it's a merit of my merit of because it was a goal that I

was a constantly was a a to apply the goal that I do, I do, and I do,

I do a form even differentiated. So I consider, like, in my head there's no demeritor of him, and so,

a merit of my mind. I don't know if you're a social of your adversaries, and all right,

but he has posted photos there on Instagram, he's showing that the guy is a physical

very advantageated, you know, since compared compared to the last a lot of his and the

other than the NFL there's some recede maybe to get a little addivated

in this lot with you? I think I saw, I saw that's very strong

the the people was talking about but the quache

no no the cheek in the car you can not

can't not the muscle for not does not

make much so so you I think that there's was different?

I don't say, it's complicated, you know, in this mund-a-old there's a lot of

a lot, I, I, I'm, I'm not, uh, accompanied, and presentia,

the things, all the form that were things, all the form was, like, an, an,

an, an experience enormous, to be, the form as, as things were aborded,

as, as, as all all about, you know, and, car, it's complicated,

you know, you don't, you, you, you, you have to try the, the,

the, your, the same to do, the thing to the better,

the better form possible and, and, to, the chances that you have,

it's, as, the, the, the, the, the, it's,

it's, it's, it's, you, I, I, So, so, all the guys that I've confronteded until

today, I don't say, I don't see, how it's the thing, I don't see, I don't know how it's, that's been working more limp, but once, have to do these guys and all, my man,

I'm going to be thinking about in this, as days, you know, about this situation total, of, how were the things, and,

and, of, and, of, those were the my decisions in some of this, you know, to see, how I

see, me turning the champion of the world, like I'm in the form of I'm in the segment

of career. So it's independent, it's like I say, independent of what come, my man,

I'm going to be prepared for what for. And this this lot can mark your

role, the good, uh, the after the results, negative,

and the last, with the agravante even of the other, that's

but he's got it more of the way that you think this victory against a pardon? Ah, it's a

great, a great time, it's for that I'm really, I'm a feeling much

to compete to do that, because I see that my performance, all there, all there, I think,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I've got, the results negative were, uh,

for situations quite strange, as, as were the two last last Lutas, a cuntal

in the did you see who didn't go in the thing you're doing the thing in the other

going to be in the fight and I'm doing the thing I'm but I'm doing the strategy right

but then the right the right so I'm I feel as like a thing like a

thing of energy of moment also of situations that you don't can't

psychologically to be psychologically to disvencilial of it were, like, in many errors, that happened

clearly in my career, that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thinking much about them, and about,

or so, car, the, of, the quality that I have, and how I'm prepared, of how, I, of how serious I, I,

know, obviously, I could have, had, it was, a expectative, and I could have batied in all of them,

He's beencid all these guys. The proper Inganu, who today, it's got to the car on the chan, poor,

you know, then I, I mean, I'm feeling so comfortable that I'm in the strategy. The strategy

was to evictor the collid long in the initial, it was, and especially in the first round,

that is the moment that the guy came more more, but I, but I, but I,

for me sent me very comfortable, I, I'm, I'm certain a soco, and I'm errant the soco, for quality of his

he too, he pushed up to back, he cruised on the same, and the soco he picked, then I don't see more nothing. So I, I see, I see, you see, are you, some,

some co-siness that make a great difference in the final, and it's for that I'm talking about the part psychological, you have to,

you have to be, car, you have to be in a balance good, to really, to really, to keep a your strategy,

and I'm form intelligent. Lutter is to act to form intelligent, no

it's going to get to be able or a little something of something that not going to have been

going to be a bravo and there are hours that you have to do that with a strategy, with calm

with patience. So it is a mix of emotion, of situation, of all the moment in

the moment in see and that's making doing that that That's not,

that's you're a stress, an emotional and physical, and it's very, and all of

all, there's, there's moments and moments, at times you can't get back with the situations,

as a very experience, I'm, I'm feeling all the lot, I'm feeling

very well, experienced, I knew what to do and all right but maybe for being trying really to

show or me super super to superer to form to show to show more,

impact in the victory. How was this problem I'm inganu? I

came me exponed the situations where I ended paying a price high. Pemes of the

peserous. It's a high. It's a very and talking to Franz Ingan, the last week we conversed, he had had been announced the accord with the PFL, you said that was very happy

for he had been able to get this victory in a career, an accord lucrative for him that can move to do the sport, and

now he got to be sure to try some Fier, that he's he's trying to D.C. soniating with

some of it, but in some moments, it would would be able, it would beck there's a

bit of a box, and now he's going to get to get to find out the number one the world

in the Arabia Saudi, what was your reaction when you saw that was going to see the

great. I think interesting for the sport as I said, and I'm talking about,

but for this rivalry between MMA and box, you know, and I think it

interesting so every motivate more the question of the things the question of

the world we're a lot to see a good a good lot of and he's

a good will be interesting sure I don't see obviously much chance for Francis Zenganu

in a opinion he don't have in box he has potency force

the the the the form uh inexperated of all kind of

it's a lot that you know where you know, and as far as the same, and as he

has the broads, and much the force, much the power of knockout. Obviously, this does a

great difference. But quality of box, I don't see much, I think, for Tyson Fear, for these guys

are interesting very, because the guy is the guy, the moment, the moment, uh,

the, the MMA in see, and, and, and, and, and,

it's a lot with, a lot of, with Tyson fear is interesting as well the proper Mayweather

did with with the Connor we know that he did to say it he made he made

he made because he he did the first the first man would not he did a manned a boyard not

a mowgliaddened and magueler he was a posto the guyson Fear and Inganu. The Tyson will gozening a galo in the round of the initials because he dee a show, deves a show

for the galer. And, and all the pockons go breeder, and I don't see, as, as well, I don't see, the quality of box for Inganu, to be able to, obviously, that the lute, I'm not talking to demercinge, I don't want to demercee, I'm going to demercee the Mnanu,

for my God, I'm even fan of the car, I goads to of all, you know, so that's the reality. A we don't can't fugue

from the reality, you know? The end of the principal of his power and the power of the knockout, the braps

the braps and all the way, and this will be diminue much, saying that the luba will be a luvva

will be a lot of a guy, as a guy, so it's not be so simple so, it's just

just to get a lot, not, not so, not so, So, even because there's a contage. 10 seconds, the guy can't go back and continue the

lot. So I don't see, let's say, chances good, I'd I'd, sincerely, 95% Tyson, are 5%

in Gannu. Let's say, I'd, because, obviously, as I said, the guy, the guy is a car. It's a car.

It's a case, right? It's not that. He has a cause, but he has much quality, but, let's say, the box in-s-in-since is different,

and even the question of the car of the lube and other, the Tyson-fearing is accustomed to move to do that, the end-gannes,

he will be can't-sard, I don't know how many, if it's, normally, normally, they're what, 12 rounds,

but maybe they're in eight rounds, or something, or 10. Or, or so, it's all,

it's all, the, the, the guys are, the guys are many experience of box and I have a

experience good with box so I've seen a lot I've done I've done with guys, I've done with

guys, I'm that's pretty that was what I would have been to be him, the guys are getting him

getting him and a lot mass it's much oxygen that needs to for a

for sustent that that mass all and and question of quality so,

the velocity of quality that is a thing that predominina we're going to box. I don't

see the Incanu with good levels of this. But this is an opinion my, clearly, as people can concordar, but this

is a, my opinion, is a fact. You think that this dutal more a round if the Tyson-Frio

to enter to, if he not to come to come to eat? He will not.

He will not. He will enter to not do show, to not prolong, he will enter to to gain the hour

that he wants to win a round? You think that she'll go to round? With certain he not

he not will do, he don't want to do you, is a man extremely experienced even experienced even because

let me say the proper engannu can't try this, to get to get to up,

to get to get that he needs and I think that's interesting I think an strategy

that's interesting for him not not not much space and

incurted distance and jog and use the potency that he can't because

if he ever the thing will be a not see Tyson Fee

doing different he can be a little more aggressive but he has

a other the arms is a vegator enormous he

he has a a strategy to enter and say very good

for a guy of that that's very much the quantity that he's moving, so the

enganun no, and if experimenter, something, I'm sure that they will be very

prepared, with a certain, he will be getting back and then so I see what,

say, I, say, two, three roundes so, the Inganu

has to put to back up to talk about a big a, the great end

the time of the you're not because he's very little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of Panthogia, getting to Brenno Moreno and leaving to America Top Team the cinturon, a peasumoska of the FECC,

how can't what was the motion to see a guy that a time train with you there, finally have a opportunity to be a lot of time and to leave the cinturon to house. Sensational. Pantosia, if you

perceive, you know, see the people, the carin that the person has people for this man, Pantosje is

a guy a guy sensational an energy a energy fantastic a great a lot

and he's all the man I'm really I don't know him so even even the

people are so people are very with the people know what I can't

see so I am I am so I'm am a fan of Pantos

and I'm he getting to top of the world

now it is extremely gratificant. Tant, so if you perceive, the people

don't have where you see, even the other the other kind of, like, like,

you know, he's a victory of the guy, he's, he's very merceador and, and

other of this, along to be very mercedo, and, before, to be much

mercedo, he is much dedicated, much he'sforced, he's hard, all the

day, intelligentissimo in the work that he does, And America Top Team in the team in the city,

uh, the coach, all the time, the parrumpa, that's always the side of him like, uh, like the head coach,

uh, the guys, uh, were doing so much been, directed them, so it's, a victory

fantastic and of a form that, that makes, even more, in my opinion, it's even more value, the way,

even for decision divided, I was, one of the, the, one of the, the, was the,

the, I'm a lot, I'm, so, where he he took, he took, he,

he, These guys, my man, these guys are, these guys are a newent, man. I don't know where they say, what? Da,

where they, they, they, they, they, they, they were in the guy who's,

he's going to malabaries, there, say, blah, blah, say, man, from,

where the guy saw, that's, it's a way, the, this, this,

this, this, this, the, the, this, the, we're,

we're, we're, not a thing, not a thing, we're, we, We have posted all

the health physical and psychological of our family. When we're all the people do you

don't it, you can't simply divide the things. And then it gets a man and came a

maloquice of that you need to be a kind of this type of this happens

to have a certain frequency it's something is something but it doesn't

it doesn't that the Pantos is the champion and, so, he's all the world

very happy for him. He, in-sitting, he's a very happy, and I think it's a sense that, that's,

no, there's, no, I'm, you know, and you, can get in house,

with your family, relax, and think, the job, was made, this, sensation that he is now,

that's the thing, is the most important of the world, the happiness, to be

to be the family, and to show, for the for all the father I've got my God, this is all this is impagued.

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On the other side of the line, we have Winston Nunes, that this sabbado I'm front YouTuber King Kenne for the semifinal of the tournament of celebrity, Rises Tech,

in Ireland. All right, my Camarado. Welcome to a podcast. A pleasure to have you here. I'm being a tattooage-zine here, that's a poca, not, I'm doing more one.

Now I'm doing a ring-zine, so I'm in a passion-zine, so I'm going to let me internized here. Maneer, man, like a lot of box

also, for you always always you see as a comedian, but this is a thing that you have a

time before, before you have a career parallel, it was a thing to do do you do with practice,

and it was difficult to get to get to get in a poor, even more, have to make to make a

time, how it was to do you do that you're doing, to get to this new journey

that's doing? No, no, I think that's in my sphere,

art martial is a , it's sphere of the arts, so is that is a thing that you use more

the body of a form more of a real, you might be there, as you said, as you said, but we're trying

just to do that it's just to take the less possible and to batte the maximum possible. When you you decided

give more space to your life, turn a lot along of something a pleasureos or a

therapy, let's be a little, I'm going to do you, I'll decide to do do you

now that's it's turned to maybe a moda you're you're into before you know,

you're not you're just before you're doing this movie and then you know I think I think I'm

do something I'm going to go and I go to do do things professional I'm doing some

different with box I think when you know when you start training and you come to care

to evaluate even in that you are doing you know people who do

do class but that's a lot of the same box, or who does the same movements

during six months, during one but when you're going to learn new things and

there's a moment in the kind of it's to make, to you, to you,

to you, I'm this type of person, I'm the person I'm the person who

does this pass to more so a part of the moment that I did this pass

a more I think I was picked by the bachin of the box that you feel like with

to go back and more and more and more and then we came to get into this is a locur to enter in a campionate but I'm

very happy I'm very happy how it was the person in the world of the people the people of an employer

from an employer how are you how they're when you told you would have that you were a lot of

a thing to train at the academy that you would be to take to take a succo

to value, man. I think that since the lot with Popo, was a

thing I perceived that the most people artists or even the people just

just got a day before the last the like, like if was a thing,

not not not, not, because, I don't, I don't, what this guy is

doing, but when when it came the the little people,

I saw, many people talking about and many comments about the same

thing happened with this last last the last last one I did I did the camp

I trained I did do much I don't see much people talking about or commenting

about and but a day before the last time and when I I finished a

lot the post the post the was one of the most of the most

the in my, in the my, the world, and I think it's kind of like,

and there's kind of, like the people expect that I'm going to do something, I'm going to what this guy

will do, but the guy's the official, always a tonne the issue, and the people come out of

the matter, so I don't, I think I didn't think it's that it was a shock, not I

didn't, I, let him do it do you do? Generally, let him do the brinkadee of his things he does he does he? And then, then, a valanche, like, a valanche, like,

and, and, what you think you should be able to start to find, to ask, that's a bigadenae, that you're doing, that's a thing to be a thing. But this is a thing that not me, not, no, not, I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I think very,

I'm quite, to say, the people, focus in your own lives, faxas, faxed, and everything and and that the day of the Lut, me give this

moral-in and assist. I remember, I've seen a interview of your some, a few years about,

you were saying, that's to train art martial, commasel a box, a thing that something that

you did not, how it was, this process of, it was, the first thing was the first sport,

the first activity that you was used with this intuited, or you have tried some

other things and it was in box that you had been that you other

that I need to be I trained M.M.A. I trained M.M.A. I did a little

Jiu-Gitsu, I did an Aitai also. But then I'm a work with my image

and so maybe you go back a leg, a nose, a part of a lot of I found that

the box you just you give a more the more the center to the center to

you use the the puny, you can't, you put a capacete, you bought a bocquil, a part and then it was, it was like I got in ghost, for you, me. Differently the Ludo of Popo and this tourne that you're doing, that are things more of celebrity, that have a

divulgation, that's a lot, the time you did, I think was of Amador, that no, didn't have, even transmission, that no there never, you just went there and did your lot. Why you had this decision, of not turn that an event? Because you

known to the way the way that is, the way that is, the time that you have in the country, you could do a promotion to

look to look to this, but you don't kiss. How was this decision of I'm going to make this an event,

monomericizing this, to gain money with it. It's that was that the intention was to be in

the ring and see what what happens when you go to when you mark a lot with someone

and say, I and you you, you, you, you, you, you,

tell the and you, that's that's you have to experimented those emotions

there. It's better that you think you do you do you to get to you're in a

way to be able to see the person to be in the party so I'm so I decided to do

another name if you know not even not he got the Edison I think got the Edison

so I'm and then we did this form I got so Lutte it was like

that's it's there part of the process was of and creches,

the fear of the of the fracos, to get to take a pal, I think that not it's to be that

this way, and if you make this more, the derrata, let's say. I'm, I was very

very, quite, it was also a time, of the same time of the

time, this is the first the first the first to the same, so it was

very different, even if I had been had been different too, because it was very tranquil. The lot was

even equilibrated, maybe, we're getting to come out of India. It was to serve more to learn by

me, but it's just a thing, not a part of everyone. And you took a ghost in that night

you just did you did you more? Or demoral to decide to do? No, it

didn't, because there you see that you know, when there when there when there

people when there people, and pressure and the juice for the first first time,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, the day of the sport,

the preparation, the sport, so, so, not, not, it's what I want to be

my life, no, I continued training, so, and just thinking that I could

do you, it was, now, this day, I'm, with people with people and people,

and then, and you know, practically none, for the pop- for the , it,

was a, a salt much great of quality adversary, right? Exactly. And now, part of the Popo

to infant a other celebrities. You're not seeing a level of difficulty. The car is entered, the car that's entered to pay, but

it was a lot of exhibition, it's different. You're going to celebrate other. You feel that you have an other than you

have a lot of strata that you have, so the training of M.A. Before, with training of box,

tantus, compared to YouTubers, that entered in this modina in the the last two years,

something? I think I trained a much time and then I, I I think about the resistance, about the

life of the athlete and and everything. But, but box even, I think I learned now with my

professor that I'm the professor that I'm, he's a box cuban he's, he's, he's,

and then we justed that part of how to get the person from the first, forgets that you

have learned and we'll learn to come to come in the ring and then to be position to be able to do do that, I think that's

now in this tournament is that I'm doing a job more of a job more of a lotator, athlete and so, let's do a lot of

box and all but now I think that I think I'm doing a box of the box, I'm six

six months for back, so box box, box, box, training, box box real

the routine of of preparation physical for box not just training of mannopla to batting a mannopla with a person

who's pushing a mannop for you no, training even of resistance of boxer doing all around the world of

the box. And he has shown the result in this last one a local if he

gobre the body, yeah and I learned after after this to come

my my evolution I think much notable too you're in this tournament

now is a semi-final obviously because it's to advance to advance to final and get the title

but what your objective as a push of list is, passed this tournament is to get another celebrity

now, out of the tournament of the tournamented to the box, what you're planning for your

career in this sense? Well, I have a company of technology there, no Piaui

we're also developing a luvver that count the number of socos, counter the

force of your soco and I, I wanted to try to make some something interesting for the

world of the sport of the art martial, I wanted to make a idea I was

doing it was to be a thing a thing, do you? I'm doing it, do it's

to be a partada great. I do I do you to put to be

to be to make to do you So, basically, the person If you want to want to be paid because I have to

have to be part to do you, have to start to sing, have to be, in many years of things that I do have to be able to because you have to

do a camp, you have to be to be a pener when you get there. So, basically, it's this. After the

tournament, of a moment, in a two lot more of people want to more of who want to and have

the ball, to pay. and to present this project of the Louva that I think a thing very interesting

is very very baccana you have a lova that has a app a PP that you

show you can know what your role to roud or the professor

can you show that you don't because you do you make a movement

with force and you have a more when you can be when you

can't you can't directly in your goal so you can to get a

money, developing a lube for the UFC, because there this battle there's a little bit of a

little bit of a guy, it's a little bit of a old, a market for you can't get a

money to also. We can't resolve these problems. And you said, for you,

for you, for you, to be money, you have to have a time, you have to

make a time, a lot, a lot, a guy who can't do you do much

in the world box, is the Jake, Paul, you have had provocations

in the social with a login and so it's a way that you think you

think it's that you make a that makes sense he's not because he's very great

in the States and you are very great in the business has a interest of the part?

For certain paying well he he's he's he's got to he

got to he got or you think he he gets how he can't

how he I think a lot of the military against boxer is

much different because the boxer you work a part of the footwork you know, you work,

you know, the center of the center to the mhmia who train Jiu-Gitzo, Maitai, Judo, Taito,

karate, all in the world, when you go just to the hand, you can't a little

the course, but the Nake-Jez is a guy that is a very very, very,

so different and, of a different, he, they have a lot very very

I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm not I'm sure I'm sure maybe I'm

like some maybe by the resistance of Nate and by the box that the Logan or that

Jake came I'm imagining I'm imagine that he's that he has been

ever because you have always trying to correct your errors and so

imagine that he he has so I just to you get him how is

how you can't of him? I don't know how the cause a lot of because I think he is a guy

very great or he would have to get to a little to get to get a much of

but I'm to see him I'm I'm an I'm an kind of antoned

with a lot of box when it will happen to be whatever I put in the television

and I keep listening no I'm if it's a card principal cruel

of these people we know that we know if it's just really a night of box that's rolling.

I like to all right to see what. And when when I look with a box professional, it's more difficult.

Lutta contra-apusentada to go to the prairie to be, you know, to be a quiet and

just are just a quiet. I don't see, I can't imagine much. Just, just paying

to see. Yeah, just paying to be the way, yeah, so p'amom, thank you.

Thank you. time. I'm going to go to the next year. We're just. Very thank you. For your time there, too, and we're on 15 of July. We're going to fighting King Kenney here in Ireland.

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