MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Gilbert Durinho Fala De Possível Luta Com Khamzat Chimaev E Kamaru Usman Superando GSP

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

Gilbert Durinho conversa com o Trocação Franca sobre a ascensão de Khamzat Chimaev na categoria meio-médio do UFC e por que toparia enfrentar o checheno no octógono mesmo que não faça sentido em termos de ranking. Durinho argumenta por que Kamaru Usman já passou Georges St-Pierre como melhor da história da categoria e, entre outros assuntos, revela que o UFC ofereceu luta com o amigo Vicente Luque. O jornalista Renato Rebelo, do Sexto Round, fala sobre Max Holloway x Alexander Volkanovski 3 e como A.J. McKee se sairia contra eles, o possível duelo Cris Cyborg x Kayla Harrison no Bellator, e o trio Durinho-Chimaev-Usman no UFC, e mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Gilbert Burns stops by Trocação Franca to discuss the rise of Khamzat Chimaev and explain why he’d agree to fight him — even if it doesn’t make sense ranking-wise. Burns also explains why Kamaru Usman has already surpassed Georges St-Pierre as the greatest welterweight of all-time, reveals the UFC has tried to book him against his longtime friend Vicente Luque, and more. Then, Brazilian journalist Renato Rebelo of Sexto Round stops by to discuss Max Holloway vs. Alexander Volkanovski 3 and where A.J. McKee stands in the featherweight division, how Kayla Harrison would do against Cris Cyborg, the state of the UFC welterweight division, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz. Hello, lo, my friend of Luka Welcome to 101 episode of podcast of Troca Skaan Franca, a new MMA in this immense podosphere.

I'm Gailene Cruz, correspondent of the site American on M.M.A. in the States Duranah, in a company of Gilbert Durin, who's like to

find out of Rican, but I'm gonna get a porth of going to be a battle with Rennato Rebell, the stagiar and Lucas Carrano in the sixth round

that of two and two two cents, he's more than more than more than than any other than any my man, my God.

That's that's a duretment. We're 10 years there's a ralando the time and in the

final of the time we're being a stagiar of Lucas Carrano. What's what I have for there, you know,

car, the guy, the car, it's a preendiment, the second down, going to the

events, rolling, to see the guy, to see the man, to be there the country,

yeah, he's, he's the capital, I've had, the idea, I've got, the idea,

and I'm a burrow of cargo of the carlera always wins you know never ever, never but we'll start to talk of lute that's why we're here for this we're here

for this podcast in the last time we've got the UFC the lute principal max holley against the y a y a rodrigues a lottoe a six rounds

the max hollow he's turning specialist in in us presente air with great luts everyone expected a party of

every time thought he was I thought that the guy was to propelar even more the last performance that the max rolloey he had, against the Calvin Keirer,

atopel, taken to do you know, but not was what we did it, how was your lecture of this Lute, you're sure

the form with the way the way he had to be, the way he was defyated by the A. Y.A.

Rodriguez. I, I've seen many people frustrated, not, with the Hollywood,

saying that, not it's all this, that's going to have, we've got to publicer in

the Instagram, the Zastow Rolk, saying that the, The Hollow absorb so the

goal that is a part of the kehoe of he's not he's the only guy with 25

luthes in the story of the UFC that never never left the

he's obviously the he's an adversary historical but there's a fund of the

fact of the max hollow absorb he doesn't be different because he

has a person because he has been to get to get the revite

I'm I'd he's shocked and, I want to ask you know, you see the Max Hollowe with 42 years

but he's a guy who he's a guy who got a guy who's a guy who came to get to the time,

it's over the time it's exactly for questions of the piece of there, no, no,

no, I, don't, I, you, I'd induce the issue,

I'm, you know, I'm, you know, with 42 years in any way, having absorbed

more of many GOLPS, until now? No, no chance to be like it. It's new, there's

even 30 even in 15 years. He started he's early he's in long-in-almetrage in alt. The style

of the game of Max, he cobora a tax much great, not just of the adversaries, but he also

the Pantera, I saw, instead of the cup of the Royal, I saw, more the cup of

a show to the Pantera. He had, in my opinion, he had the the best the

career of his career of his entire victory until today, the cutoveled with a zombie Korean, he

was being dominated in that lot, he was in a second of he was a time after after two years and he brought

a problem that the max had the difficulty to resolve, that is the distance, he, he, he,

he, he created a barrier there, he can't the, he don't the bracer the hollow

to golloy and show- and chut- and, the hollowing, the hollowing, the hollowing- golley,

so engole, had a lot of difficulty to lose the first round I don't know in which round the pantera kebrew the foot in some moment

and he was to shoot at less and less the hollowly was so he was to put more golf but the panther

has been to the last round in the opinion of the three juisis so I think it was a actuation

fantastic of Mexican that on instead of he he's he bott he put a

one a lotof in sim the pantera like this this guy that we're thinking that was

Pangaray, that refused a lot with Zabit, I think this guy is a day, also, also have been 29 years, this

car is if he will be a competitor 10% better, he can be a world. And for me, it's a

question, because everyone saw, this lot, he'd be this little bit of he was going, and he

could have him top of the division, the Volcanov is the best, but the Masroll

is the A after him. But many of the contrary, via the majority, and even had been a second

two times for Volcano in the paper, via he was a guy superior to Vokanovs that's leader

of Ranking and Vokon and so. You think this, he had passed suffolco against the

Yai, Rodriguez, can't the form that the people see, he,

moved, maybe the way, he's a position general, so, compared

him, compared him with not, because I I'm, I believe much in

that phrase and styles, and styles and so, the encaught is completely different of the encase

with a car with an ex about the abit and the gigas chikades. I don't think what

what happened with a pantera disabona he for any other other the other because

the lance he, the champion is that even, even you say, I'm

I'm I'm marked the second luta for the hallway,

still we can we can concordar that was for a field of a

other and the fact is he not disvendor that he never he's

the he's the same he's he's the same jab direct the

approximation the final that he jogs with the finger he he gets

he using using using joelada to using to get

to work he's he is the same he's he's he will

come to the exact the same thing I don't see too with

car is this, and I did this time this second that the future his own his own

the future of he's much more more than the he's not he's he's over and he

will be the zebra in the third luta probably probably probably

he he's he gets no he he's he probably probably

will be he probably he probably he's been he's a lot of it's a lot of

it doesn't much have the hand rapidin. The most curious is the two

two more the first the first for the first in the last the last time he got in the Ortega

but he got been good but he's going to Rueue and the Rueges and then the BELto

you who work as a MCN is always working on those BELTors the actual champion

Pee's O Peele, a guy who distroned Patrice Pitbull is a guy who is a guy may be

a carre brilliant, invicto created in Beltor I was, I've been to get

to get in this moment to start to start he's just the contrary, he's just a performance

absurded against Paterson Patrick Boy finalized he in the middle of the how you compare the

two? Because for many people the E.J. Mackey is the best of the world, but we

know that the FC, he is the event more midiatic, the event that has a more

the event he's always but he's not always he's going to he does he If this if this

this case, it's a piece by the number one, number two of the FC but the

MMA in general. But as well, other people have the people have done the wayj it's difficult you do that

balance, because we're in fronters because they're not there no leader in a rower common,

you know, the two have taken this guy and did this car and how would compare you

the AJ with Max and with Vokanovs that especially of these two performances

of the last of them. It's, like, let's let's talk some some of the realities established. The UFC have 85% or 90% of

the market. He is a leader, quite a monopoly, and then depends how you look at the way.

He is very dominant in the market. This is that he has more money, he has more power of

investment, he has more lootators, he has a plantel major, he has an

an an a process of selection natural, more ard, this is point

pacific. This not a question of opinion. But not mean you can't say that you not can't have a joy to the other

side, that's able to compete in this lab. We've seen, people going to the Belator and going

very well in the FC, and people going to the Belaor, that's not a matematica. With this

the Pesopena and the middle pesado are the categories more competitive of them. The Pesu-Gal

also is going to Rory-Guz, with Sergio Pett, will, will do a accelerated. But if you

consider that in Peasupon, had the major lottador of the story of Bellator, it is, that is the Patrice Pitbull, that has all the records, knockouts, finalizations, victories, defense of centuron, that is the duplo champion, who was the guy who was a very minor, knockouted

Michael Chandler, and you see what the A.J. McKee did with him, not just with him, but with all the world. The A.J. McKee Acholed his GP, and guys much more experienced, the He, he, he, he, he, he, he

, he rappelled, the All-American, the first division of the NCEWA, that the Airon Caldo, to the Patrice Pitibu.

All the style, he dominow. And it's a guy that's he's a child of a lot of a lot of

series, it's a phenomenon, he has all the golfs, he knocked with a shoot out of the arm of

the try, he has the shoot out the pern of front, he is practically amb-dash, he's,

there, power of knockout, the wrestling excellent, finalizes, it's a, it's a,

a project of Antonio Mackey, it's a project of his father that's a kid

to create a little a lot of perfect that no but the AJ Mackey

in the UFC would be no one let's let's

the possibility of the matchmaking not be good of he a night too

I'm I'm going to talk top five but if you go

AJ Maci with a comarad is coin to it's Jogar a moed up

as soon, as I think Patricia Pitbull and Alexander Volcanoff that's, it's very different because,

for example, when other guys came out of the BELTOP F.C., like Will Brooks and Michael Chandell who

were their defoters. Ector Lombas. Yeah, bizarre, Ketrolom of all, to be the

guy, the guy, Rousson Silva. But, but it's different because these those resultators had been

had been their results or in the Belor in other events, the AJ not,

the EJ, that in the paper, he, he, he, he doesn't have a lot of

he had been a little bit more more of the he was a man, he was a man, a car, constructed a laboratory,

for his lot of the ex-holy, against the Vaucon, for me, today, are the two

guys, are the only guys that I would be, I would be, with total conditions to

gain of him, not I'm doing it, but I'm saying, that would be a lot of you said,

a the category, I think the AJ would be a favorite- countering a good one of the UFC. It depends

of the game for example. If he's he's not going to go to go to if he's not quite he's a knockouty he has been

a ratchet, but he's a good racker, but it depends a bit of a bit of the job, but Zabit is a

guy, he's a man, embassado too, and the Sehudo, Sehudo, will paint and these

questions there. And the Sehudo I think it's very big, but if you if you're to put a car to Sehruid on the other way J, question of of the altitude, it would be a peasant

much for him. Yeah, yeah. The E.J. He is a guy of port of the hollow and with invergature, now. Now, the Sehud, I think he would,

if he was volcanic, as he called the anon a crescid, but if you don't go to volcanic, it's not, but I think, that, like,

as, as, as, like, as, the career of his not will doer much in the Pays'n, I think, I, he,

he, he just, he should, should, he'd, he'd, would, he'd, I think he'd for E.J.

Pell what we hear of the backhedo, he, as soon as he got him of Patricio, he would have just to make a second lute.

I think the he said for me that not thinking of this, but he did this total sense, and that would be the

title of Pels of Leve was a job of a master, because he forces the E.J. to make a revancho in Pena. If Patrice

continued the championed of Leve, he had to Peter, he accepted to do Revent, but the cuntrononon

of his and the Belta would have be forced by the hand in the remand. With the Patrick, you can't

even be able to live, but you don't have to do that you don't have to the other than for the AJ. So,

it's going to be in the pen that is what the Patricio care. But I think the future of his

not will be this division. He's a guy is a question of time for he has to have to

do because the time and the time and he is very new, but the guy has 18 Lutas of M.A.

The guy has a career very long yeah, no, he will be a piece level, I'm quite with you, but this story is very

well-contled because, so, the A. Jamie, the narrative is that he want to make

money, he want to get more, he'll get a revanch with Patrice, what is the option

of him? And, what is the option of, and then, he's a narrative familiar,

Patrice, no corn, you, you preem a limon there. But he can't construct the second after the second

after the other you're going to you get, does the guy to do you get the guy to do you know, he does he does he does

he does it but he's the Scott's Cougar he said the first the first of Patrick I don't know he won't

back he's he was champion and the defiant number one the patricio said to you know

that's kind of kind of that not be revanched immediate that he would would be

to looker to look at to look to look at the same card but But, P, O.J. Mackey, he wants to do you? He's about with Mads and Bernel?

That's right. It's true. It's too. It's a mal-contained this story. The Patricio thinks that the Beltz just was even negotiating the Lutte. For this, he thought it was he was he said he, but we've conversed with people close to AJ, and that not

not is because they're struggling for questions of money, even. They're trying to renovate contract. They're creating a bolsa-ma-ma-law. So, I think, before a lot in-in-s-sie, they're going to put on the paper a box a Because the EJ, as

as well Michael Page has made, he's not he's making a door open for the F.C. He wants a grant.

He, despite to have been created from the start in the Beltor, apparently he not has a

much this, this thing not, I will be here going to do this same as the two men

Spitibul did, and they were, gained a name of their organization

and they don't have any interest in to go to the F.C. Because the Patrice

said that he And he'll get those atletters of the FC recamandals of the grant, so he's to pay for what, so he's to get to get a better. You have a lot more, and the respect and a relation both with the donors, and despite the,

Patricio's had aberted the hand of the Centuron of the Leve, is he's, he's in the hand of his own to his mind, he can do a trava, say, oh, the lute with my brother first, he can't difficult.

It's obvious that not easy, not it's not, not it's even recommendable from the point of view of business, but he could, If he wants to be recusar, he can.

You've got see the moral that he can't be the hand of the centuron knowing that he's a

dispute, because imagine if it was in the FC, for example, the FC Odea when a champion

open the arm of the champion, the if it's a man of the signtouron that I

know, he's a arm of the he's going to take the carl and you go to

put another person and the guy's he's a thing, it's

a thing I see that I see Belta, the relation of their relationship of their good,

he's good to open a hand of a point of a big amount of a turn of a job of a job of

a master and they, they've brought now to the car to the house of the his own,

the little bit, but you know, you know, Guy? You know, you know,

where you are you are putting, the Scott Spocker and Dana White are two gestures

completely different, with Dana White people even would have been trying a thing

this. It would be a good to confi to find in a word of it. No, I'm

going to feel quite but I'm but I'm but still on the belton and even

talking about the last time we had a crisis board and he passed for the

Chinese Kevinn who is an athlete that the islanda yeah company of

the company of the team of magre and all right to be for me

it was it was a previsive not not not see the

victory a vacsal in a minute I was what I was what I expected because the Chris

today has been been a more commedita more comedied more strategic so it's not to make to matter

and I think the address her way she had a more than she was to do that she doesn't

take it with a car and no longer it came in question of two minutes I imagine that I'm

imagine you I'm sorry I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna see a person who saw this

a little and was really critical because I made very clear that I was having a signal a male in the transmission and I thought, oh, that's absurd,

critiquing a Chris, not so what, but, but the Chris did with a Cinear of Kavanag exactly the same thing that

she did with Amanda, which is, mordred the protector buch, the, and then someone to get a

carot not a Amanda, you know, and even she has a background, it was five times

a European-Irlande of box, She's, she's She put her own She said a criss, that's not I'm going to

say she's not, but the Chris, not was, not was a peteleco, she,

she, she, she, she did exactly the same thing she did with Amanda,

but the other, the contra the men who she was in front the bell atour, she,

she can't be the lusho to do this, she will be she will do this 10

times, she will knockout the ten times, because the others

no, no no experience, no technique to try with her, but she rolled the data

there, levor a little a goal limp and it's not, and again, if we're not,

if we're gonna a lot of do you, the world, and Mary Potter, jog a varie, yeah, Donald Wright,

liberer, the other liberer, it, in the order to analyze the the look, I would,

I'd say this moment of the Cinia of Kavanaugh, that Chris not controlled

the impet the aggressivity of her and it was to her own the time of Chris that's the it's all right

I'm asking that I'm I'm seeing that I'm seeing that replay revenda, I'm see this

remember that way the form that she talks about the form of she took a problem that she got a porad

but she's trying to I'm trying to I can't even I can't remember in the transmission that when she was knocked out of

Amanda The Clarissa Shields, not was no cornered but was there, but was there in the event and they trained together. And the Clarissa Shields, in agony, that is the backhoards, she when I see the Chris, she said, what, what murder is this?

You train a-combe, box? You try a jabbe with me? What murder is this? Understand? Dunders, done a sporroroarro in her. And, for example, it came, it was done the score. But if, for example,

a Chris had been perdid to Kavanaugh, and the Clarissa Schult had there, she would say exactly the same thing. What is that. The difference that the Keill Harrison, she's, it's an adversary potential,

it's a guy that that's the truth is that. For the end of Belator, there's an other that has a little bit more that's a

that's a that's a that's a career in F.C. and all, but I think the great

challenge for Chris, that not be Amanda Nunes, is that Kayla Harrison that's,

who's, he just made to terminate with the PFL, he can't see, he knows,

he imagine the Scott Coker jogging a grand on the collar to want to want to be how you will be how you're

going to be not going to be what I'm going to offer what she would be the what she would want to be the night is like

the best and I think that Ravis she she doesn't get into that even more knowing the Ronda

would have been F.C. I have I think that that she will want to want to in terms

mediates she she not not are Ronda so the F.C. not is disposed to to pay her

this. You think that this lot of Caldo, you think that will roll you're not

that's that's that he's that he in the FC, you think no,

the UFC no, no, Beltto, you think she she is able to give

to Crisibor? I'm I'm, I'm, I think a Calla Harrison not go to

the FC, not not to not talk nothing suggests that she does that she

not say much doing the publicing to say one things in those back the

back the is a opening the cartel I'm in a lot of that's the money of the money

dollars for the two two years but the money, she's taking in the media 400k

of dollars in each the fight she that's the Amanda gain, but Amanda is a

Amanda is dupla champion yeah, she did PPV with a Ronda yeah has PPPVo with a Mish

with the BLA B'A Borg the Dana Watt not a a same thing that he pays

to Amanda to Kyle Harrison to car because of the new, uh, she's more a jodoka

than a Ronda was Bicampiole but a Ronda not the not the curriculum that's the lot, it's the

it's stethical let me say the fact it's all in the packote I think again,

if the FFL if the FL if the FD if the FD TECD is this let's FECD FECD FECD

PECD KORCC PADCG PADCG PADC $150? I think she costs, like, but there's Julia Budd,

a Julia Buddie, yeah, yeah, it's a lot, but if the Scotty-Colker gets to get a pert to, I think the competitor will say more out and she will

understand that, she's a competitor a psychopata, yeah, a psychopathate, if she she she wants to be considered the

best of all the ideal would she would be she would be able to see Siborg and the Siborg is she's not her car-S-Colkeke

would get to a grand a part, uh, Siborg should have to look at a

second to do the same this is the question. Okay, all right, uh, Kela Harrison,

the first a little bit more a lot of akexement, or a Rennie Blencoe that's a national,

the Australian, a push Lichie, that's, Vitts, and then it does make a desengando,

does, even a Gets car, got a lot, but the lot of them I'm going to be very

sincere with you, I'm going to that's best fight odds on the one of course, I'm in, of odds

for the utas and fantasize the crisis is a favorite. Yeah, the crisis

is a favorite against Kail and I agree. I think if the Kaila

not derobar the Kish, she will get to get a now, the Kail is a

higher than Chris. A Kail is a better Krippler that Krii will

be a real, but the all, you can listen, you've interviewed

you've interviewed you you see shudda of men who train them with the women who train with a crisis, women who train with a crisis, she's,

that she's that's really, more, much, more, much, very, much, she'll see

the Gabi Garcia, but it's the man of Gabi Garcia of force, the experience that she has

in Jiu-Gitzo to say, about all the training that she does, when you when you,

when you, when you get, you, come, a force, you know, you just to call the

what you're in the grapling and the wrestling, that has experience in the torrenties of wrestling

ADCC, a championship, yeah, she got a faxia the second a second retrasated the Cobraina

the friend Ruben Charles so even that she was a black of jiuci she's, she's,

she trained a wrestling from there to Titorchis to do the camp with him

at the punishment center, that academy of Tito is like I think there's

a chance much considerable of the Chris with movementation and

force, and negar the Kada and the Kala and the I think the chance is

very great. In my opinion, the Kala is indisputively the number three of MMA,

doing a lot of a Rly-Hom but but a Chris and Amanda, I think

that, I think, she's a real bit of her great, she did a BFFR

dominant, but she didn't get a stratofevera that is a Cris and Amanda, a challenge that they would

put her would be a little long as she's a little much long as she's not able to it's in negate

for the career that she's did in judo all that she has made a machine she is a really impressive

but I think in the MMA taking a car of two adversaries that batten very very pesed

and that have experience in other areas would say I don't say I'm going to say so much

to put to put her in this position Like many people say, oh, she's,

she's like, calm, here, who's going to be doing this delirating yeah. It's a

thing, there's in camada, you know, there are levels to this. And so, the lance of

the carla Harrison, not that she's going to get the two the two different of the story.

It's complicated, the task of her is complicated. You can remember

the case of Daniel Kormier, you know, that maybe is one of the guys of combat, because

in the university, he had he never was a champion of the first division of the NCAA, because he had the semifinals

because he was Sanderson, because it's the best of university of the history of the United. So,

in the time of he was in the first he he, porra, bat with a John Jones, you know? It's a

assar of the cacety. And the the friend pesed pesed so he was in the middle of

because of Velasx the champion. right. Well, Terrible. Daniel Cormey gave a

sort of to have a jobed, the source of his own he was a malucco, not he

would be a champion me too and he had a big to be the heavy

to be the heavy because if the Daniel Cormea not had never had never had received

autonomy in relation the song of John John's for he

had been a thing that the John John Jones

even didn't don't he he He gained a liberty, because if he not had been made sure He's always thesterisk, you know,

you were a champion, but just because in this hour, John John's was out of the world. Well, yeah, bravo. Yeah, no way, it's a lot. It was good, because he was intelligent, like you said, like he said, you said, as he said to talk, to

talk about to say, the podcast, is the Givers Lurin, I conversed with him, he's in the sedent, for to go to another chance of the centurion, in the victory of the victory of Stephen Thompson, in a performance efficient,

that even he recognized that was the most important, he was an victory, a victory, but he's a

limbo now, now, he's not going to know what what's going to know what to try a

idea with you, Renato, about it, we'll hear the proper Durino about the plan of his

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The other side of the line, we have Gilbert of Durian, Gilbert de Buns, that's in this becoe, saying, what's going to happen. But first, my, my, my, my pleasure to be here in a podcast, many times. But I'm my, great God, all right, me preparing

here and and waiting is a little a little of patience, but I'm going to pass it,

and now it's good with the trainers, we've put other the other metas

to do that I don't have done I'm not there, much for to evolve

the game, it's we're working much of the we're trying much to

a to demonstrate this in the next a lot. In front of no there's nothing we're not going to you're going to you're a

position of the officer to be able to get a new year to see a week but you're playing. But the lot of do you know, the evolution as a time when you're doing

a camp, you're focused on your adversary. How do you do you do to balance that because you practically live in camp, right?

So, how you do you do this balance to evolve but is always training the point to get a point to get a

month a the time next. The way that I do we do we try some objectives

now. The objective now, I've a lot of jiu-s a month pastime

past, so the objective of some three two months before that was very Jiu-Sit-s

and much wrestling. Now the objective has been a new, it's I've been

a three, I do every three times a year, and we're doing, you have been, will be a lot of box and very kick-box and more sook than shoot

to try evolve to be quite in these three, four semans and then we're going to be trying, I think, for I'm saying, doing these objectives, making the objectives for the short, and this me helps to evolve.

So I do many parts of box, many parts of kick-box during these three, four-sumannas, what are we, we don't have, we'll have more, we'll have more two, three-semones of defense, So I do various objectives

little bit of but it's been not saying that I don't be trained, like for example for this competition of Jiu-Jitsu I did much wrestling

and I continued doing the Spai continued doing doing the application, I continued doing a mannop so I

continue training and at a little I put the little objectives to me help in this

evolution but I don't do you I don't do so I go to

much cardio very a lot of volume, very high, so if you have to pick a lot of three rounds I would probably

five rounds I would have a little more of time. But three rounds I think me this confidence to pay this because I just

did it first I did it's difficult but not so difficult but not so I'm not too if I'm more than those

my 100% if I'm doing maybe 70% I can't push up to but I just I don't can't be too

not I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm in try to be a goody

it's a it's difficult to tryce three, four years to find and where you're going to

the division today you're number three of the rank number two of rank at last just the

Colby that just got to be the same but you're in a limbo because you're

going to be the Lioned with the M. M.V. Mar-Val's you're now you're

running a part of that will be the Leon, saying that will be going to hear expect a

central in the year in the year next, the Vincente Look, not is a option to you know,

so you're not a problem, that's a final point of that's a plan of you, and it's

having any idea of what will happen to you know, no, no, the first

was very difficult, my brother, my brother, trying to make a lute,

not fech-lute, not fech- and pressioning the UFC for car and pressio my manager, but I saw that was difficult,

even, to finish. And I I had to put these little objectives for I'm trying to so, it's like a competition that I do, in the case,

like, the time of Jiu-Git-Suh, every month there was a competition, so you'd be focused my mom, on the day-a-day. So I'm going to be more relaxed,

focus on day-a-day there, and go, and go, and go, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, in this evolution.

And as well, when I was going to do madame, or not happen to other guy to make, I don't I'm not going to be trying to do for this, but I'm going to be prepared for this. So, if I'm going to be able to

be done, so my head is more for this. I know that, put, it's all the direction that I go, what I can do, what I can do is, continue evolving,

and be prepared. Because, car, I think, I feel, I feel, I'm trying to be able to get and

it's just to be able to get to the opportunity and it I think he will be able to get to

nobody to nobody will be able but I'm a opportunity in four seven years so I

need, so I'm that it's I'm not moreno there, prepared to be prepared

to happen something I could pull out and get this opportunity it's a little

frustrating to in this situation in definition coming of a

performance so a like a good one underboy? Maybe if you were in a moment more quaint, not have to have to be in this compass of despair,

it's a little frustrating, yes, I'm going to say that not it, but it's part there, the UFC said that the lot of the clear that I

could have had been to have done was a but we have this parteria, we don't want to look to.

This, in the parteria, this, this emmandade that's, that's perro the person,

so I, so I, so, and he, so, we'd would have been

in the case, if we if we'd have been a number number four if I

would have been up to be up or if the Vincente had

he'd be be able but but I think it's more that it

was that was the other other other because I see

a lot for many guys in the like the

yeah if you don't why he don't he is a lot?

It's a lot of he both I and the Vincent. The Colby is the same thing. The Kobe is very well who knows who knows. Why he paid more, he does,

but if he wants a centuron even, that's, that's the way, that's the way, I'm not, I'm sure, the peril that I'm in category, it, is frustrating,

but I've passed this time, now. What's in my head is to be prepared, and, my man, the time that the opportunity to

paint, I, I'll be the first to get the first, I'm, the UFC, did you, the officer the LUCC,

did you, asked, I've asked this Luta, but we have the same manager, so he's the same manager, so he's the but I said to say, I said, I'm saying,

even if you don't think it's a boast, I want to say, I want to say, I'm going to talk, I'm going to say, I'm talking, you're going to say, I'm going to ask you this lute, and for all right,

and for all right, they know we're going to talk, but they're asked, but they're going to try, but we need the the only lute that I neged in the

category entire there, was Vincent, and vice versa, but for this, I've already I've done a lot of

any of the question. I've done some weeks I'm going to talk about the podcast, I'm going to

do you do you're going to be the world and this look, the UFC might forget

that not not. This day, not, just if the man, my man, my man,

so if for the case of the car came with the the money, so,

the Floyd May, Weather, and I, and I, Vincent, try the idea to

get to get to my point and say, my mom and say, in the way, but it's

a matter really, but I'm, I think, putt, it's not, that's, that's,

that's not, that's not going to get a grand this day, not it, not it, not if it

would be, and then we're saying, and we're this we're this we're to get, and that's,

I think, I think, so, how is you see now in the division? Yeah, that you

got the champion, but you got the under the other the second, I'm going to

the last the the head of division, and the Usman and goes to get the goal of the

goal, where you see in the category in terms of dispute and the centuron. Because we

know, when someone confront the champion and lose, in a form dominant, so decisively,

it's difficult for the FC casar a revanch, you think you'll have to have a way

long to to have a other opportunity if Usman continue there? Or you think that

when, when you getting a a process a you can get a new chance? It's a good question, so I think everything, everything will depend on the performance.

I think my performance Ponto Wonderboy, counter the guy of Jiu-Gitio, the guy of the Grapplerpillar, was a lotta very, was a victory very dominant, a guy of the Jiu-Gitio

totally, you felt well represented, so, it was a, one of the feedback very good, but the guys of the MMA, I just thought it was a lot more armada, I think it was a

lot more chata but I think all I think all I think all I think two performances that's like my man, I think, , it's, man, man,

is very dominant, but very, but but, again, so, well, sang-sangrent, or, or, or if I'm going to knock out,e, or finalize,

I, I, I think, two victories, could go to go back to the citoron, but, but I, but I think it depends much of the adversary, depends

much, has to have to have to have a performance with an adversary,

with the category, I think, as I have a opportunity, and I started a

lot of the I, it was a difficult of the opportunity, and this I see the

reality, I don't see the I think to be a performance very dominant, like,

the, the man, the man, the man, the So, even, even,

even my trains, today are so basing more in this, and knowing that my

next performance has to shocker all the world. So, depends, I think it will depend

the adversary, and then my performance. I think it can be long, it can be a performance

that will talk about this. And you think the Usman still as a

champion to or you think in this way, someone who can

be able to be able to be able to I thought. I think the Leon Edwards not won't

win the Camaro, which is the next, it's more at the beerate to be the next. I think the

William Edwards not win. I think the Vincent would be a lot interesting there. Even more

that the Camar is trying much more not doing that wrestling. I think a a trocaation

with with the with a lot that I want to see. And the Vincent has

been better much in the in a lot of a lot of the whole,

the guy, I don't know the guy, I'm a guy that offers a very danger, much more

for Leon Edwards. And, for that there, I think, I think, before I, I think,

the one, who can't be the Lorde, and the Vincent, for this, I think,

the way that I see, that I'm doing about two, three luts,

I'm just going, I'm, and bickand again, to the different,

I think, no, I think, the Vincent has much more chance, but it's a mission difficult, too. Camaro is very

hard, is evolving a lot of but I think the Viscence has much more chance, much more for Liotto. After this victory, over the Kobe, the thing is a bitrasat, the Rannas in the collective,

said that the Uzman is the best, me, the time. It's that kind of promoter, you're, that's up, he's, over, clear, the same, sure, the Sanpire, that's a guy that he batted to have your head a various

years in the past. You think he has to in this level of to be the middle, medium of the time? Or, are a pass

after the San Pierre yeah. I'm talking about I'm going to think he was because

he got but I think he is getting in this level. The way he's

dominating is a more more attractive that the way of San Pierre to put

to back back to dole pound sometimes not a victory so

a camera was going much more more convincing in

my opinion is the more but I think I think it's still

more defense of the cinturon to end up with a conversation for me they're in my opinion

it's not in the number and there also also a little more of defense of the centuron to declare

this, let's be so you're so if they would be in the auge or the smangaria

of him? I think we've tried to get to rob, and he tried

and tried many other who tried there were very difficult to

robber him My man, I remember that I accepted some golf Dura, but very d'n'urro, you see the hand incheo in the head of his head and the bishu, my man,

he sure, the end up, I remember that a shot direct that I gave in him, it was a minute, I did a shoot very high on him,

and my canner entered, and I was sick in the head and I, I got a with a calombo in my canela

and the the bitch, like, he, the big, the issue, the one the

thing, so, so, I think, the He's the trocaation, he is superior for Sanpierre, and he's in, putt in the wrestling, Camaro is another level.

I think the two in the end of the end uposted in Camaro. You've trained with him during much time, you've seen this in him, or this success of him today

you'd, you're just you're pretty, he's always a guy who trained he was a lot, he was too too, he didn't He didn't like

of the trocaation, he was a guy that he's a guy that the change of his

when he when the Camaro moved was after the Tuf. He was a guy, he was a

guy, he was a guy, he was always he'd to be to see the he'd

always, he was very aggerid so, but after the Tuf he became

different there, he was he went training very better, he worked

more more focused so technically and I think it not even technically but he was he was a much more

more more than you know the question where we said the question of the lionette in a collective recently said that a carly spas

maybe not not quite has been other options that is a thing that's a question that's you're just left that you're not never a good idea

yeah we see a carly spas that is that the paper that's that does to dispute the centurion of the pinnuron of

the pizuplea but I don't know what she has of the threat with Dana Matts that's simply he passes to everyone

in the front of her you know you think in the case of the this could be so you can't be

this decision of this maybe it's maybe maybe it's not to end this novel for this

guy to do that long then then then it's also another

opponent also that I also I can't not don't take that

he's not that he doesn't he's not It's, it's a Zed for him

he's a he's a a guy that not a hype so great, not have a fans,

not there's not a people not people not much not a lot that's my manh

my manh the guy, he's a very technical a lot of a lot of security, a lot of

security so, it's a good, I don't know if the Paperview Camaro

against Lionel there, he's, like he was against the country, how he was

the country kind of that's Zed, the Kamsat is in the area doing a big little bit of a lot, but it's not with a lot, but go to me,

man, he's a... He's a... He's a... He'll do. Yeah. ...soot a Twitter at a moment

certain, there, and I don't see. I think it is a risked and I've just in this situation to be...

When I picked the COVID, the Luda was cancelled, I was in that I was in the people were going to do the citoron or not. putt, horrible

to be in that without but my my torsida is that he the Dena watch did the ring to

the ring every you mentioned the name of Ranzashimaev the guy that's going to go out

on a hype absurd there's there's a mass of fans and the part of

the press the person from this new Bichupon of the middle

the middle this this hype he'd you can you really is merceador of

this fallator that's collated in in the I think he really

good, yeah, and the hype my man don't he's not he didn't even

he's like that I remember very the Darren Thiel he was with a

great he was a big he got the cowboy and then he did

a lot with Steve Thompson that was a decision Michael

and Michael and he back Buc he Chauto

so I think the Camas very Duru, yes,

and even when he's a man who want to be a kind of a guy who doeshifted all the kind of, I'm a lot of

a man, there's a woman, there's a feeling that I like, I like I like the way of him to do the job of

but the hype is the hype, it's, it's good, me, man, it's good, man, I'm good for car,

that he, but I think he is very hard, yes, and my man, have made the role of his, it's been there, my brother, amassed the man,

and when I get the microphone, you know, and say, say, talk, I think he's, he's been doing

very much, but he's, does he does not the top 10 of the ranking, you think this is an

exaggerate? Ah, the rank is a moh de-doider, it's difficult about about about the ranking

there, that there things that are things that are things that are quite But he won He won't the guy

Rankyado He got him He got him He got him He got him I don't think I think he I think it

He went He went to Meal Medio and he went No top 15 He got The Pemois And he went to

The top 15 Meal Maito But now He went The first He wrote Deseon And then nothing

And so Howe Howe he's Howe Howeee Woulde The Chouin The Chouin

The President To be To have to PPR for us there's a lot-down. It's a-to-do- can't-a-drop-a-d-a-d-a-d-cad.

I think he not will be down a quay-down like he did in a-cois-law, but if me-keda, also, it will be iras. This is it, I think it will happen, I don't see if this year, I'll think that year

will happen, this month, it will be a lot-in- you'll see a-lut-o-counter-o, or you're-camp-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-he-campion? I think what happens before this. I think, I think, I think he will

make more a lot he'll have been to get a question, and I think he would be

the UFC know, I don't say that I'm going to not to any of them,

and I think the other, I think the I think this is the I think this this will be

the pass of the FCC there to give more a lot to Kamsa

there and depending if he was very if he would maintain the I want to go

go logger contrail. The Alainfou, the trainer of Jiu-Gisso of Shemoe there in Swessia, he gave a

interview to portal to Vary Tutu and said that in this division, only you complicate to you?

You know, I think the Jujits is a guy, because he's a man, but the

game of a man, to get a to get up to back back back to get to be a massing,

but to get a a guy with his level to be a job more complex to enter

in your guard, on your car, to be clear, I could get there.

I think there's a wrestler grappler of high-level in a category I think would complicate

it would be quite I think, that's a lot of complicated for him. I think

I and Colby, we complicate much him. A we don't see him

with a strike of a category with the like the like the underboy

there, who are a guy who are a strike very as I can say, very perigosos

there, one a man of the car there's a, we don't see the trogation there,

but juging by the wrestling of him. I think I, I would

be a difficulty a lot of his game, and I think the Vincente

and would difficulty much in a problem you, you are

the number two, three, the champion, the it's just a pain to do

this pass in terms of ranking and find out the guy that's the number 10

by the no, I think I don't know I'm not I'm not I think he will

make more a lot and going and going on top six or there

he's getting on the top five I would I'd no problem no

top 10 I don't would but my it's I being against I

don't no does no does not mean So it's complicated. I'll put it on the other

against a new megrey, which I think it's for there, nine, nine or ten, I'd give various times this lute, and the UFC not wanted me

to do this lot for question of ranking. So I think they never will me refer to Cans A because they have said,

I don't you'll give the Mugre not for question of Rangney, I think for this also I'm going

to be not to offer me can't be but, but, I'm trying to be trying to

be trying to say not to say, not to what will be to get to get. This

That's the You're so in this form of to get a lot of Twitter that would say would be the middle to

substitute the barragee to get a reprofts against the Look Rockholtz to Chansh-Trickland. Pesuitarylunds.

Pes-meree not see if you saw some interview, but Steve and Thompson there he still reclamed a lot, he not assumed, but one

he said, he said, I'm a lot, when I grew up he said, he said, he said, how is

a lot of, so it's a working a very strong in a category there, even for the golf,

say he was a strong and pound is a thing that I don't know for the weight of the

I would per per the, I would be, the four kilos, the five, four kilos

all the number, and more with the guys that were a piece of Meal Medium

He's a He's a He's a He's a He's a He's a He's a He's

He's He's the He's various Yeah, various So, I mean

I asked the Lute I'm I asked By Nott I said I said He said

He said He said The Royal I'm I'm I'm I'm but I'm

I'm I'm But I Yeah I'm I'm maybe Let's

let's Cull But the Culler that I would I I'd pay really

it's because I think it's it's a much more easy to I'm going to be more

more fast than the guys, logically, the guys are going to get d'ur there,

I think it's going to get a good advantage, I'm a good on in a category

there, it's a want to I have to do that to look at the middle

so, I always I'm going to get to the middle,

I'm that I'm this monster total, I train with various guys of the middle of the

heavy there's a guy that's a guy that I train a lot of when he's doing a camp

that he's Phil Holls or Brandon Allen there are there's a very car there's a

middle and the middle but I already I've trained I really

so I would but but let's let's even more even more even more

I'm all right I'm got a a lot there I want to like I want to

do that for the lot of Camaro I signly a contract of five luthes

and I'm doodino to renovate this contract so to try to contract so I

just did the water and the Wonderboy I have I have three lute

I'm they're they're not they're they're they're or here or

or in or after the third but probably probably after the last then I

have a plan to renew this contract I I'd I'd

kem to almost two the contract but it's difficult, but you're just, you're just

you're putting to go ahead to go ahead to make a lot, imagine you never more.

Puts, difficult, in. Porra, 70 just if my man went to

the people have to give some six months for

there will be that going to get a lot of every day,

I even I I said these are the trainers, but I'll bat. Tire the water from my body and sub by the balance I do I can't.

But what's the cost? But, but the foda will be lot in the next five rounds with a neuro the keshu

and the question is a part of a really. If you're if you're with a cituron

with the middle, the guy, my man, my man, I'll do this a job, my man,

to do that the lute like the six, seven months, maybe eight months, and I can

get a lot of that I'm going to not be a lot of that I'm going to not a lot of my way, I'm going to get a lot of 70 kilos

in the 6th lute on the sabbos 80, my mom, me give a rebote sinister that in the

quarter of I'm going to be a kind of the rebote that me do that after the

time, you do not even. And far of the M.A. You have made many lots of groups of

grubes of some a lot, and would have to do Ben Henderson now, he could have been trying an

adversary, if you could choose someone, to do the suns in pan or without

kimono? What do you would like to try? The kind of fun of kimono

or without a kimono would be to Marcellarcia that's a, that's, for me,

for me, is one of the best for me, the more the more pesed, more pesed,

the more pesed, would be the Gordon Ryan and Bouchington are there are Marceline Garcia would be a lot of that's going to be able to be able to be

that. But the Marceline probably not won't go back, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's the lot of the dreams. Yeah, yeah. The Roger, but the Gordon Ryan is a guy that's nother. So, who can't go there.

Not, pesado to a carrake, he'd be able to be around. I've been with him various times. But, Patry, let's just train man,

let's just not train. This guy, he is this bitch of all right. It's very very good.

I think today, no, there's no there's, I've been in a lot of, not many,

I've been, not a lot of, not quite, I've been with him, and at six I'd say, and I

didn't, I'd say, and I'd ask, to ask, to ask, I'd, he'd have,

two times that he came here, he'd be here, in the radio, Knox, when we'd He trained at Radio Knox,

never this time. He came to do a seminar, then he came to train. He came to train with me, one of the other, the gal. When it was done, I was going to ask him

to him. He's very hard. Like, very intelligent, know the ground, you know, the position, there's,

many people know, know, it's hard, no, it's like, he's a guyboard of football,

that is a Roberto Carlos there, like, like, he's a bickuda, he's a bickud, and he's a

a guy so Ronald Ghausk, not a guy so ablidoz a bit of a lot of the bitch, I've done with Andre Galvon,

I've trained with Raphael Mendes, I've trained with myroftainte and I've got to be a opportunity to the majority of

Jiuits and I feel it's a very different. It's finally with him, with him with him

with the SEC, don't in the you know the two? If you had put the your money and who you

would be the end? The Andre is I'm going to when's the years now I'm in

25, Andreya was in 18 39 so I think the end up sinister but it's

bono carama but you know the the pick of the end up time and he

did various games of the DCC of DCC of two in two

years he he got got he got with

with COVID he he just he just not did not have

done didn't be, you know, complicated for for the Andre down the new,

contrae a guy, the man who's is a lot of Jiu-Git, is more a more, not going to not try the

wrestling with Andre. I like to the Andre's very much, but there's a lot of with him,

but now, but I think the golden is a favorite. The Andrew Galvan just got to

with one chip for to do do a M.A. too, and the Gordon Ryan finished

with one too, I think was it was the year, I think, it was

You said also that could have possibility to do do you do with the other day MMA, but it's more in the if it really

would be in a MMA you'd actually that would that would be the difference of the difference of

the difference is too very great too. It's very yeah. The manette is a major

I trained with a a man who a man who is a big a big man who is I don't

in in kilo there should the man that's two hundred 25 pounds there's a hundred

a little-killed a little, 100, the Andre just got almost in the hundred hundred, 98,

there's a a man who's a lot of a guy, a guy, a bigot, a man, my man,

a man, a man, a man, and he , and the , and the experience of

M.A., he's made, many, he did not , not quite to have been after much

enough, no, no, never did he, but he talked with the

people, he was, he was, he was he was rated, he was, then I used, and then I'd be preparing, and so,

and it would be this guy in the MMA. I think today, by the age of Andre and the, the amount that the Gawdon has evolved into, I think Godin, I think Godin is a favorite for the Lutta of Sima and MMA has a mud,

MMA, a man, a man, a experience, a MMA, is different. We've seen, recently, more the people of the MMA, from the Jiu-Gi-Sivis, we've seen to MMA, we've seen, the Bouchierceas,

the year, finalized in the first round, in Braddock. there, of Rodolfo in the UFC, there's more people,

but who you see the the gallery of you know, you're going in the scenario of the rap what you

see that if if if if if did this transition, would be a barue and have conditions

to get to get on the top of the man, if we see that the

Mackenzie got there's there, put, there's there's with,

with, I think is much the style, you the guy who does a

few wrestling in the MMA that just Sima there's,

I think he is the Nick Roy who's the man who comes in an

man who's a minute there's a little in the third now in the CDE

is the man who is a really of Brazilian I know I think

the Mika Galvon is a man can make my mom can do what he

can do do you know will be much in Jujits it's very new

has been 19 years yeah Fah Doro, jogging on various Fasasasas here. So it's a man who I think

to have much condition to bombar in the M.A. There's a guy good of Manals. And,

and the other guys of Jiuito that's in F.C. M.C. Bachechia. Maschia.

The Gary Tonnell is a guy very sinister that's there on the F. The goal Ryan,

Dregalvon. I think all of these people there have chance to be but to do manned

in the and you're just to we'll finish here in the interview a new she's

she's she's she goes she'll she'll she she she'll

she'll she'll she'll she about you may be a matter or this is a

one that's you know she's she was gonna she there's

there's there's there's a woman and the man she I said you want to pick

this other this other when you can get a salad I'm going $100,000 you get her $100,000 I get it's a million

I'm going to get me but I'm going to get so I'm going to go and get this carriego to say she she's going to

she's going so on so you she don't believe you she don't think she's a lot of

a mama in 2010 if you if you're if you're if you're if you're going to

runcement Jiu-Git's or something will will be the other YouTube

there's a she's a mother to be a amateur she has she's a lot of

Maitai and a champion Brazilian of Jiu-Git so, for a lot many times

a lot of many times a page of today she not, now, today she only

just train and all, and even the style of Jiu-Gitz to

M. M. M. He said, I'm M. He said, Fola, he said,

well, I'm don't do- do- train, to try and

to lot and she said, I'm going to never to be not much, but if you put it, 10,000

on the table she was just to get the balance to answer. Balanced it. Then I said, but he will have to

train, he'll have to do you do that I'm going to do but I'm not. Who can't you know,

you'd have a court, then. Wow, I said to she was in the corner there, she was,

she's not, she's not. She's not. She's not. She's, but she's too, I don't know.

Oh, Jiu-Jitza is different, yeah, I like to have the voice, the voice of Harry, the Daniel, of Bicent, of the Kami,

of the guys that I use, diariam-a there, to be very much, to be able to be not, M.A.

is different? She's not a lot of a lot of a lot of she'll be able? She's not, she'll be nervous,

but she, she, she can't say, she, she's, she's used, to be the beginning, like this

of my career. She, when we started to maraud, I still would also I'm in

2010, then we got into 2013, and I came in 2011, Amadora,

2012, 2012, professional, so she accompanied my career all the

whole, so I'm a lot of professionals, she, she, now, I'm used

now, and there many many of the many of my my friends my

my friend, that I have Colal, it's the Vincent, too, that she has many,

I'm going to the other in the academy that we can't get to look and go, and go.

So, I think it turned, it's been, she's not she was for me, but she

was used to get more to be able to get more I'm talking to Vincent, he said

that the man of his Fascared of character, assist directly those sparrings of his and he's that's used to be

useful to him, that he doesn't for us, he's trying to get to be chaste and he will see a coach, yeah,

a Bruno has, did some he had a time, a thing is a thing that was in train,

too, that's, you know, that's, she grabs all of my sparrings and she, at a very she gets calated

and at a sometimes she says some, and at least, I'm doing so, I'm trying, I'm trying,

and I'm looking for her there, she's, she's, I'm looking so, I'm trying like, I'm not going to

do this, not what I'm in the head to do. Now, today she doesn't say, she's, more things,

or another, I'm not, I can't do much, she doesn't, she'll like I'm about the

baby, like the mother of Vincente, if she'd be much, she'd be so, Cajalada,

Puck, thank you, I'd say for your time, so you're in the time, you're,

that's, that in brevet some something something for you in the if you if you're going

a bit something good thank you we're going we're in we're just the ratata kit in the

cold of him you know you're a matchmaker of the FC and you you can't a control

of what happens in the category real medium who the do you do you

put him with him you put him you put him with him he got him

with what the next the next the question I'm being the manager

of Durin or I being the matchmaker of UFC, it's the same if I'm sure the matchmaker of the FC or the company I'm aver

because, and I think the Durin, I think, so, I think he has this mentality also.

He has been 35 years. The project of his is being a champion world. He don't be doing

table, it's a man who, he got all all the Jiu-Gitz in all the fash, he put the

the Cituron of the FC, he has this project, he's not there to be to be a plus, you know, if you have in 35 years, you already are the number two of ranking, you just got to win, what you need to do to make a barule? What you do to do, what you

do to catch the attention to the people, to say in that you can be a postulant to the centuron? You have, you have two options. Or you get sat down, on a can't, cruise the dead, and, prays, and rest,

for Camaruzma to lose. Or, and not with a guy that will happen so soon. Or you take a action, take a

responsibility and try. What he can do you do not to cause a bad-and- the character

today in the country, which is a point. It's a lot of a lot of one,

not just because the thing psychological, not, the guy is quite like a

entity, the fans think that it's a kind of a kind of a

kind of a kind of a supereroy. No, the hansett sangra

like all us, but it's also a thing that's a lot of the same than the

good at the person who was a little bit of a lot of nothing is a lot of a lot of

but my friend, be a champion of the FC, porh, it's one of the tasks

that's the most of different that's so you you're just in this tryotee

in this foe crossado car, come let's the hour is

now, let's try. And this, what you said, you know, the hype

in the car, is justifiable, the first the first of the other were with the team of

not were not they, but not are, but of he was going to be on the FC, but

he got the guys, but he got to the car's, and the court

I'm mixed at 20, 15, seconds, or what time was exactly,

yeah, he's impressioned, but what he did this last little the car

of the time of the hype of his He's just after the two Lutas

but the guy to get the Lig Jan Lin and do what he did the work to do a

lot of people and he got to a lot of a car when a person was a kid

a kid was a thing that a real the guy it proved that the he is

more than a guy that is more than a big get to get of

people of this little back to that the He put the Lidigliang to be downed and finalized it.

What is the chance of his second Durin, the champion World Jurytis in a façapet with his en kimono? It's zero. He,

he, contrae he will be a striker. And, and man by Mung, Durin, also he's a

mongue also the Dureen too this lance of the Mewa will have been made a fomomom a man,

one over, he will be batte in a murro of a mule, he can be a champion of the world, but he will have

difficulty. Inclusive, the trainer of him said, it's the PVET, that the head, is the guy who is the guy who ensignes to Kamaev. He said that the last difficult for Kimaev is the Durin. So, so

so, boy, Bish, the UFC wants to sell him, the UFC needs to a new Rabib, a guy who chlamo, a man, the market Islamical to have a Russia, have a Chechnya,

have a Sueza, would be a great substitute to a economy. It's almost a more with this voracity, this famo,

the guy has more than the people have more in the media social. The UFC can accelerate him?

Durin is the Rangin, the Rangin, who is a most popular. Cara, for me, it's a match.

You think that he gets to the centuron, if the Rolauselah Nowce now, for who would your $0.00 of

your post there? I think, car, I think the durin' a favorite, you know? And, so, the people feel like bravo, because the Hansa Timae

has been a entity, like I said, ah, nobody talks on him, and I, I'm the guy that's the

more hype the Marev on YouTube, because, he was playing in the series B, alias, parabins to

your Bata-Fourg, that not a team of B. B., great glory. another, another patam. He was

he was going to but he was agoling he was going to get by Botafo yeah, he's going to get to make

so vogue, so vence, that my son me be able to TV, I'm going to be able to all the hour she'll never

think of a lot of the world, it's correctsum for me, it was gonna be able to be yeah,

but it's yeah, and the Vazcone a reality the Vosco the Vosco exists

even complicated It's complicated. I'm going to get in-cats of 4-0 with Botafo. It really, it's really there, it's a signal of a redel of alert. Our core-in-law,

our co-ir-in, not bad, not bad, not bad. But what we're talking, really? I'm talking about, B.

In the Series B, he'd trumpal to everyone. Ah, so gole-A. He looked, he jogged, he wrote a series A, he wrote, the table,

the day that he looked he continued goleaning. Now, It's like he will golear the Atlatico Miner? He will goleer the Flamengo? I think the durin, a encagey a riche because the pan with mantega

of Hansa Kimehev is the Rashkin. He, po, he pegas-a-pegat. The lute-o the most finalizer of the peso major finalizations in the M.MA. But the lute the most difficult of the career of Hansa Kimme-eve until today was against the Alaskerov,

which is the champion World of Combat Sam Bois he's lot of he knocked he knocked

Al-Squharov he will need to knockoutial the Durino he can he can't he's

he's a major, he's he can potential but the he can't get in

a quack with him he porra if he's in the Kimaev in the chas blue he

not have certain malandragens and time to know what the Durin can put up

a guard and enter in a leg lock and get the his his leg of

a turnozeo or a thing, so the finfol know that the fight and

the lot of the lot more difficult is the dureen I think the M. M.A. of malandrag

etc. the durin can create like, like, more comparing Brock Lejner and Frank

Mir in that the Brock Leger put Frank M to make back back the back the Frenchmi

may say in the leg lock Brock Le doesn't get to get what's

what can't can't happen something that you I think the Durin is a

guy that can't complicate. Now, if he wins the durin, my comerada, it's a fair thing to get a lot to get a much. It's like to be Cloverfield.

Then it's not to paris, he devoroughed New York, and even more the thing, imagine if he does with with Mischart,

not it's not the U.S. It's for Couton. The Nats Dishman has, that the Mucs has to win two years

to win a to talk to the stoutureon. I don't I think if he got it got a one top

five and he continue to do it he's going to do you he's going to he's going he's right

he's he's he's not even he's he's man, but the man he's because the

guy's limped the category yeah he's he's he's he's

he's he's he's money money the he will he will

he will be he can't he can't he never he never he never he did he said he

knew he he was he man no no he's he

family, not. Yeah, there's one I need to get to be the end of year's like the festes

of end of year and forgets this thing of the little bit of this year of this car this ball

tropa of elite not forget this this this merda but but but like

Vicente Durin Lyon Edwards Cobb Cobe Covent and Camaro Usman I would be chocked

maybe a word but I would be much surprised if Kmaev atropelase, any of these.

And if atropelar, any of these, then we have indissues that's a guy completely differentiated out of curva.

And the Carrano, oh, here is a credit to the Carrano. Carano said this before it's before the

first of him of sixth-round, right? The guy not gets there. Well, the major salary it's justific.

The carano said, it's the best of the lotator that I've been in my life.

And he's of eye of the old of him. Oh, carhanna, don't we

know this my sack no, and we're not the we're in the he's not a thing he's

a lot of the one of the five, then we're going to a problem of a thing, of a,

don't see, car, what is the potential of this car, where he could get, the new,

the MMA is a sport very new, a we're a lot, we have been 20 years in

a year, a super-nova, a, a, I don't, a star cadent and be the Ranzat

Kimaev. But I don't not, I'm not not put him on this patamarr, not because

for the guy, to turn the second of Donna Mache he will have to get to the best, that's the

kind of, that's that's not that's the question, that's the belittal of promoter,

promoting the other the same the same Danauite that in past he was

called the Rena Baran Jons, or, It's just starting to to turn more more concrete this debate. Because I took the time Durrino, and he thinks

that the Camarusman is the best, mehamed as all the time, but to ender the debate, he has to defend the Citadel more times. But he thinks that the Camaroosma would be the best year from the F.C.

Yeah, so, again, it's a super-oman against Batman, we never will know. What I think? It's a, what I'm a maloquice, the Anawite,

not is more. I think it's just a hyperbola. It's an exaggerer of a guy that has lots of commercial with the number two that even rends money to

him. With this the numbers of Usman are at this altitude, they're going passing by the metad of

the George Sampier did in a little, in a drop a terseated, in rounds vencedos

in defense of the centeron, he's just passing the metade the trajectory of George Sampier.

The only the only thing that he has been more is a consecutive, that he's to empathe when DeSonsilva, more one victory he impata when DeSonsilva. But then we have to understand the thing. The trajectory of his long was much more long as

than the Joy Sampier. The J.Sampier disputed the center or in the fourth his own, the first, he was going to be the first one. The that's going to say the second. The J.S.M.P.E. He pegoed a competition of a level more than the third half. He was he was looking with the third-lut. So he's

he's been looking for the betters this time the group total. And the Usman has a process of more maturation for a period more long. I think the career of George Sampier in the UFC, if you're looking at all the numbers,

is the major than the Joshua Sampier. A us has to consider that the sport evolved. The Usman, he is this lotator, because he also bebebeau the font of George Sampier. He learned things, vying the Jorri Sampier, with sure. Even if it's a protocol of training or mentality,

It's the same to compare the grace, the Jiu-Gitzo of Grace with the Jiu-Gi-Syso with the actual champion

World's Jiu-Jitsu in the Vosha Preeto. There's a last few years, it's unjust. But, so, the George Sampier

has 80-tenth and many-tenths Qaders-N-T has 13. The Camarusman winseri, the J-Sampier in the

Ked, I think, no. Rastlers the players better in the role than

the role as the course of the first would be the first would be the subpoena the subpoena

the jab the job the job is one of the sports you have used he has a punch,

he has a position physical of Usman, no, but he could be more faster, have goals more

more precise, he trained much time in the wild card with the fadroote but for

me it's a a lot a lot without a lot of favorite, the world

is a more and a more more important but he's a great, a master complete,

too, it's a a lot of a lot of I'm a other, I don't see never

never, no way, no chance to Zampier never, that's not the person,

but if the Karasamara will be not to be the time, it's a

thing for future we're going to get to make doing, if the

great chance to make this debate every way more key. But we have to

end up our session for here. Thank you much for this time. It's a mind to

make a work for the pre-a- program, do the your chef Lucas Carrano.

Where is the people do you do your work? Do you do a merchant of

all the media, very great for opportunity and I'm a pleasure to bat

a pop with you I'm at the position always always always

And sixth round, no YouTube, sixth round, on Instagram, sixth round MMA, on Twitter, also, six round of MMA, and I'm going to commenting the Bellator on the channels

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