MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | José Aldo fala de Popó, Mayweather, McGregor e mais

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Fim de semana cheio no mundo da luta, e o Trocação Franca traz os grandes destaques do Brasil em entrevistas exclusivas. José Aldo, que pega Jeremy Stephens no boxe, fala sobre a possível luta com Floyd Mayweather, o desafio de Acelino Popó, e as próximas lutas de Charles do Bronx, Alex Poatan e Conor McGregor no UFC. O programa traz, também, bate-papos com Thiago Marreta (PFL), Marcelo Golm (Bellator) e Pedro Munhoz (UFC). O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It’s a busy weekend in the fight world and Trocação Franca brings you the best in exclusive Brazilians interviews. Jose Aldo, who boxes Jeremy Stephens, discusses potential matches with Floyd Mayweather and Acelino Freitas, plus upcoming fights for Charles Oliveira, Alex Pereira, and Conor McGregor in the UFC. The program also features interviews with PFL’s Thiago Santos, Bellator’s Marcelo Golm and UFC’s Pedro Munhoz. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Seniors and Seniors, in command of podcast Trocaation Franca and represent the M.M.A. Fighting

in Brazil Guillermo Cruz Welcome to OctoGestum 1st1 first episode to podcast

Trocaconca to a house about this entire I'ma I'm gonna Chris,

correspondent of the website American M.M.A. Faireonelho. I'm back in this quarter Jr., ex-campion of the Panes of the UFC and the WSC, that's a ring

of box in this Saturday against the Saturdays. Welcome to to the podcast, my friend, how are you

are the expectations for my life? I think it's the best of the best of the good time,

I think, we've been training, some time, and we just came out of some days, just in the other than another,

another, with the challenge with with Jeremy, that's been getting been, been trained

now to get to get to get there to get there back the and make the work

how it's how it's how it's how you're because you were in the ruta after you

when you was given this battle against this how they were they're gonna

they're so people with this problem with this offer soferta

so so yeah who who's who's the things for me

in the box is Wally yeah he that he's that's

that's about he's He's negotiating with the war, in Abu Dhab. Arab Arabia Saudi, with the proper Mayweather. So he's going to be doing, he's going to be doing everything

this part of the box with with the DEDA. So we had this meant, he had offered a lot. Before, the Jeremy had finished another opponent, but I don't know

because it not happened, until he came to an Jeremy Chis. Who was originally, the adversary? The first was what me offered me. They were the

They were the other other guy that I don't remember the name G. There's until get the

you're getting the other but it happened but it's not not it yeah I've had accepted

to look at the event so so the part of the first they were one,

we're we're we're then offered the other we're then

after that came to get in the Jeremy that confirmed which you're

why you you decided you're you're having this in a paper view in the States

getting in dollars, I imagine that the bolsa there is a big more than the shoto. The impression that I have the law do

the chototot was more, we're going to let's see, let's see the to see the yeah? Yeah,

I don't visualise in a moment, no, the year, I think the first in the first, I think,

even talking with the real, we're doing our stres, I think, I chose the adversary,

I'm sure, to see, to see, to see, to see, and I'm, a story no,

a story new, a a modality new, I have to respect I'm getting to get to even I've been trained my life entire boxing, but not for to look at box, so I had to me uprofundar, I had to be

to learn, I had to have a humility to get to make this start of zero even, until we're trying to doos more altos. So, this is that was my mind, we sent, the professor, said, no, we're going to do we do our

first, I think it's a great adaptation, and we had in mind, you'd have to do that other other other a lot of

you know you you're going to you know a role in the real, having this in the States

America, like you know, it's like, it's not, it's a thing, but you can't get to go

and you can't be a way, I'm going to be the United now, I'm going to

a performance wrong. You know, had some always, always, always,

always, I'm, I'm a response to get there's a response to get a better,

to make a out for convincing everyone for this adaptation that I'm doing now. And there was a fear, yeah,

and we had a great, and we had and, and, and, just to frustra a other

next to the other we had in mind, so I had to come to into the training,

don't get to get a much, to prepare to get there to get there no

surprise, and knowing that we had been other compromise, and would be

much more more more than a star. And it's a guy that you have a question about,

you know, you know, with the military, with that you have used to have been in the MMA,

knockoutiated him using the hands and now to fight him in the difference of regress, what you

think you think you're different in this look compared to another? I think

a new new story, I mean, I said, I think, I think, I think, now,

I'm going to it's a new modality that it is another type of of the type of

style also, but it's a lot of a lot of practice, the way, it's

the way of going to gopia also, I think we let's a little the way,

the the feet, the kind of the clings are different so it is a

new story I think my my lot with him was in past I think

we did that we did that but I like I like I'm I'm I'm trying

a new I'm trying really I'm trying to to understand how the modality to try to

try to do a great performance on the same the ring. When you confronted the Jeremy Siffins

there was in a good sequence of victories, but you not called him and a part of it

he entered in a quite of many of many times and it was to be more dangerous

because he is a kind of he's maybe with a question you can make a way to make the

way you think he he lived with this moment? Yeah, I'm like I'm a

new story I think it's we're not about about with what we're we're not accustomed to an year

not too in the MMA in the OFC or other event that he could have been

thought of the head of him is totally different of that he he's he's

he's front for a lot of so we're going to we're totally different

man I don't see a I'm a difference a different so of he's

wanting or not he's with my opinion than I we're going to make a lot of six rounds is totally different

of that's something that's so I don't see what the head of the way not I think he's thinking of a

great lot of to want to to try to come to come to try to get a eventor the point

and what in what what is I'm gonna I'm gonna get a 147 so I'm gonna be the first of the pen, then,

uh-huh. I think it's 6,700, for there, I think. Yeah, for you who did you

know, in 6-6, it's the last time, the last year, or you're in a lot of, you know,

in the time, so, today, for the fact to be, the, yeah,

the peso, the Pes-Gal, in the last one of the last year, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, so, so, so,

my weight I don't pass to more seven and I'm so I'm very close the way

the person I'm in the little bit more more than I'm I'm doing I'm not I'm doing this piece

I'm not because I'm going to play a more more than my M.A. So I'm

going to get me feeling good the cord will be more more so I'm

I think with this court being more more I'm performance in the

maybe maybe it's maybe it's more more pesed for him, because he was to be in the MMA, in the last few years, all the of the years, he's in both of the

level, so maybe he seemed a little this cut, yeah? Yes, yeah, that's not, he's not trying, so he's suffering to do for this port, so, so, for him, it's more difficult than I, but for other

side, he can be more more peser than I, than I, in the Lutta, but I also I don't see problem no, so I, I've trained for this, I've trained, with this precision, yeah,

people are more peser to people are more to get there no problem no, there's a man, there's

that I'm that's a same card against the pole he, he's been the event, the event

of the event of the Mald, you're, you're paying good as both, and that he's going

three times more than he was more than this side financial, because you're starting on the box there,

but there's story, you're hall of the fombo of the FC, how is this side of the

financial in this point? If the the side the shot was the money,

not by the money, I imagine that had done a lot of a really yeah,

so I think the the name we have we have the person we're the person that we're

so that so it's quite a so we're getting a good box I think no,

no reclom of this I think for me the second lute uh... I'm receiving

a good boss I think I'm a good salary also not we can't we can't

try to compare so you can't have been sure that's a good a good a good a good

a good the event too I think I'm thank you for this that they're doing for me too.

Well, excellent. Talking of the Floyd Mayweder that you mentioned after the

lot in there was there was the talk about the fact that advanced advanced

the Lutta in middle of the year. I think it's more easy to ask you to ask you to

ask you to ask you, he's he's in the he's not he's not he's not I'm not

so I'm not a little when I'm going to all the next the last I'm the question of

Jeremy so I'm not I'm not even I'm thinking in doing other other thing

so I'm I'm trying for this I'm I think the Wali the other side

do we do now. In the next Saturday I think that not only my weather but it will not show to the proposal

for us because we're getting well the way the box. We're doing a lot of training and we're doing an awesome

adaptation, we're feeling very well so at every performance we go on the ring so it goes

going to go to the new the challenge. In the same way you've felt a

pressure to get a good performance, to do a levant in this fight in this fight with against

against the time? You see now? A little a levice to do this fight with a little bit of a weather,

so with mehether, so I don't visualise just this, I think, as I said a great performance, I've trained to be very

trained for this, I'm very trained, I want to get a great a great show for all that he'll talk about

that at the night with the arena as far as they're watching too, and demonstrate the

quality that I bring, I'm just cooking on a box and so it will soon will be a new challenge, you know,

I'm sure one of the challenge that is a even when you still was in the FC, that's

there used this fallator in the press and that's, you know, a guy that's

done the lot of exhibition here in Brazil, did in the fight music show,

he got the Pellet, picked the Winderson, and he and you still talking to you,

you know, you have some interest in other with you, you know, you know, you know,

That's not much sense. So, it's no no, I think, I think, I think,

I've done in Brazil, I did because that's doing our plans, to do the

here, to have a good adaptation to then to do more more a little

so, so it we're we're we're the way, so we

sent us, we're going to look, whatever one here in Brazil

no not pass, I think Like, now a little you, you made

the question about the both of the other athletes are getting and it's much more

that's that they're receiving, not of the of the office or in the own of their own

doing to do doing the world in being conditions financial so we're we're looking for that

is certain and not for that what can happen or not if in Brazil

we've we've had a culture as in America of both PPP Vio,

as a lotation of arenas, so I think I would think I would do you like to do you know,

pass on the memory or in my mind in my mind now, like I'm my next day, I'm my next

Saturday, I want to make a great challenge, I want to make a motion

performance that I know that we're going to make with the people.

And other other guy that's in the same is, Ronald Jackar that's here

here in Rio with the trainings of his day. With Jose, the same academy, how are you, you're in the first hand, the train of

the Jacaree to effect on Belfort, who is a guy who has been a lot of the Jackarer, was the guy of the Juggist,

how are the jacaree into this battle? Yeah, you're going to him to get a M.A., as you,

and he, also, he, also, you, and you also, you're trying, to this re-encoct of this re-en-conto

of his role in the box? The first, I'm a great a great of the I think, oh, Vito, there's a good boxer. This, no, there's no way to

nobody negate, he always was an athlete who are very explosive in the part of the box, we always have the men who are very abidosers. So we have to be, but, you know, a guy, who, you know, a guy who got to be a guy who loves to and a guy who, who my man, goes to train, I, go to learn, goad,

a guy, who, even, who, even, you know, go to the same, no, it's important, how it's it's a lot, no, I think, it's it's a great fight, I think, I think, He just has to get a position the fans that are in the arena and that they're watching in the house too.

So, it's what I'm going to be. Jackarer has a great training here, so he put out to go out of the marina, where he's great athletes of the box, but for me, the best the best of Brazil, taking the selection.

They're there on the marina, training, and he could do the camp total of his there, so with a guy caniote, a guy bigido,

a guy, a guy, he was a guy, he was very well trained. now just to get there and do you know

that's a victory and a victory. And talk a little of the UFC you who will be introduced in the hall of the family in

the ceremony in Las Vegas recently we got to be not just you know, there's always people,

and one of the one of Wilson Silva that, that, even it's even been

a little for he went to be a postentor, you've got on the box too, how you

you see the the entry of of you two two together in the hall of the first of the first of the

first of the first of the great, so I'm not so I but with other athletes,

the fans also, I would be for this moment on the Rau da Fama

so I feel free for making this, this, to do part,

that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all, I'm, I'm I'm a

generation after he's a general. When I came in the UFC, he was a champion so I feel free

for him, I'm happy for him, I'm also to have put him also in the Rau-N

that I think he really really for the event. To be a great here in Brazil

no, the F.C. So I feel free for this. And, he's receiving also,

I think the same day, too I, when So, he's the Rone also,

when the we were there and all, and all the same night, and now we're going to

the other other side, not more than getting more a little bit, receiving an homage. I think it's a

great job, not so me but one of the end up, but the J.ststufels also, that's a

player who did it will be a viral what is today. The Jens Puber, in the public American,

always had a campaign for that he had to run aflo he finally will come who you

think you what you to be there, but that's not not been never was a player,

I think for me, I don't know if you know, it's a very much time, it's

he's a not a not true. So, it's a man, the guy that's one of

the first that's the one of the same as as he was, I think the

Mark also, what is the M. is the mix of Gartre Marci RACs,

so it's a guy that for me that I always I've seen as a like a kiddo, which is the guy

that me inspired to me to be a little who I've been a little that's a guy in there was a man who was who did

a manor-huh we're going to we've talked about about the stories of recently the John Jones that probably will be a

rhoda-fama in the future also, conquisted the cintrown a piece and asked to him

who top five of the major of the most times in the opinion of his,

he obviously included, including the Anneson Silva, including the Sanpier, and the Rabib and you. What you are? Because I remember one once,

you were the Eck even, the John Jones was coming on the UFC, he gave a interview, saying that you was the guy

that he admired, that he would be, that guy aggressive in that campion infion the person,

he'd be the whole after the after he went to the category of the people, the guy,

the category of the guy, and pick more a centuron. No, I think I'm very fan of John John, so because of the fact of the we have this approximation,

car and one and I'm always I'm admired him, I'm going to admire him, I'm not sure, a barrenation of the nature, so, for me, he's the mayor

of all the time, I know that he was a person, also, he's been, for the ability he has been, he has a arm

to lot in any whatever piece, in tant to 9, 4, I don't know, he was paid, he was president, and he,

For my, he's the more of the time. You know, he won't the guise, getting the Miotis,

and Gendon, who comes in the front, he passes? Yes, for me, I think the the Loutes

is a miotit. A man, a guy, a good, I think, if the Luton-N-N-N-U to me

would be a more easy, than, the Miotit, so I see the In-N-N-U with a man very powerful,

but, but, no ability to contain the job of John-Jons. Today, no vejoining, no one person

even a even a whether he he's going to he will be the he's a champion him. I think he's

when he when he's going to when he's he'd be able the next lot of the game, if he'll

continue to the FACC maybe it's good, not there no, there's a lot of people

he'll get to a guy for all respect to a CURries of his

Vos a guy who he's a good he's doing the Miotis can't he's considered the major piece of the

history of the F.C. P, number of the defense of the centuron, po, got it. Gaveau, man. Value, a brother. A lot of course. Yeah.

I think that's going to go to go to go to my Titche. I think that he can't even be a little bit of a little bit of

a little tauton, or can't be a day I can't get a name so the time of John Jones he can't

so it's very difficult, then it's been after the Gano but I don't see the before my TIT in an

an adversary that can't be able to fight in front with him. You think you're in going to

you're in he's going to he's going to he's going to he's going to do the under the Walter,

Tyson Fury? Or you think with these guys the burraca is more in the back?

I think, we're going with all a little humility, but I think he got a

done a turn to make, but he had a thing, an awesome a great

contract, the we're going to talk of the people and

this want to be a champion in box or to do the box or do this I

can't say that I'm going to everyone see the point the point of the pyramid

with the values the box but it's but in the middle

to go to almost passing the I think the FC is much

more higher salary than than the so I see in Gannu

via with a Lut with a LUT of Tyson-Ey-Couin- where that there are a space

pesperous that's not even near the not quite of this and all the people don't

not really now you're like that's a general football because I'm going to but I'm forgets that

my man, go to say, everyone will gain above of that that's not that you don't say

that you're not a person, I'm my man, you can't make a event, you can't make the guy

in the box does, and you can also, you can't talk about the Kond, the Ronda,

the woman, that everyone when I say that a woman does and she goes and she goes, so I'm going to I sign up with the F.C. And who knows, in a day,

as I did, like I did, do you know, or have a party for an FEC, now he's going to FEC, it's certain

that 50% of that he imagined, has said the name of his name of his. The Ronda, is a,

it's, I'm, to say, to her, she has been, and, if you were, nobody says,

nobody says, the Ronda, because nobody remember it, But I'm not, the FCC sobe with an athlete

you need to be there, he's not there's this a lot of car, you know,

practically a lot of a lot of box, me and he was a lot of boxing, man, and so he

gained millions. So, so I'm an athlete to care, negotiate, a thing, I'm going to

start to other side, so if I'm a talent, so I'm saying, today, I can't

give in values alto, but, but, God, I'm the name of the

champion, I've seen, the FC's together to be in the team, so I'm going to say,

I'm in a little, I'm a little I'm in a day, hall of the hockey, and I'm going to

do you know, a box good, man hard, man pesable, but if you go to see, the soco

of his no, he's, he thinks he will get there in a box, he will do some

he'd dock, he was a totally different, man, other, the modality is different, the style of the style of the fight is different.

We're getting too accustomed to this, so it's a world new, man. It's what I think. You think, maybe we're also a little bit of

the job of cintu to see how much, if the Gannu can't confront the Tyson Fury, we'll try to do, so how they did, the Condor and Mayweather?

Maybe a opportunity of the UFC could have been embarked, too? Yeah, yeah? I think it's all a negotiation,

I think, I don't know who's, who's in the who's the officer it's very difficult you're just you're not

we're not we're not we're not we're saying but it's a point in a joker I think too for

me can't you did a little bit there's a man I'm trying to do this in my career

I think I have a total capacity to get there to come to box and so represent a

mark of the FC so you so you're all the all of the all of you're

to sit with you're I think that I've this opportunity with them, I don't concedo in the time of I did

not have been not you, and even as I continued in the FC until I get to the moment that I

know this moment that I'm a very difficult to get in a difficult to talk about critiqued a CTCA and too

I'm gonna I'm, I'm sure that he can continue to continue and doing doing what he

does of the MMA that you have been my past did the Lutas of box, it has been

not been roll. There's now that you're able to do what you want to be in box,

there would be going to fight this car by the other way, I think it's if you'd be able to to putt

to putt's any person in world and quite my peso, my own my own at least me a year, I don't

want to get to get to get to I'm pass by pass by Giro,

no, there, no can just can want to do visualize some thing

something, that I'm going to a second other, so I'm starting again there, I'm going to be able to

go and I'm going to start with going to get in the modality, I can't say I'm going to talk about, I have to

have to go to the general and see to the next with the with Alin that I think

he can't more than I more than I about you about about a little of UFC even,

the names strong for the Brazil who are with the Alex Potan will make

more a lot of a Desanna a quarter between them after two of kickbox and the

last one in the UFC gained the last the last a suffolk but it you know

this quarter this quarter because the placar rolling from three a zero is freguessia but

assisting the luts not this freguessia it's a difficulty every every

they're a difficulty much great I think Potta I think the Adesian

was a very an artist Marcel would say a guy very intelligent he'll have in a lot of

a mental he will be in a new style he'll be totally different he'll know he'd have to go back

the rancas in the fight so he was well he was well in the front

there he was a good man and so he he could get a

victory I'm I don't I see a new story I I don't

I don't I'm a favor of a lot of the potan logically my the

He was a pro-Atan. I hope he can't get there and defend this tron of his own and he's a vencerer.

But I'm this question that I'm in a new story a new a dozen so he's trying to

learn to learn to get there's new ability to show there and suprendor

and the next the charge of the bronx the first the first of

the deros another another manhue another with Raffa Kahn-Name with

There are many questions in the way he he perched by the way he's what you're what's your opinion with the experience

of M.MA and about this lot of this lot of the first is a great lot of those two are very abidos

both in part in the pen and I don't see the favorit to the other I think the juzzi so I'm

the juzzi's is more affiated than the d'arush but I always I always I've always I'm very fan of Darius

not so of but a much time, I've always I've always I said with Rapha, I said with him that I said,

poor, that's the guy that's always always in the poor, I'm trying to talk about the guy, I think he

was a man he'd just for a title, and always he's always he's always he's going to be

the Charles, so I'll see an opportunity of Charles to come too, the guy

who has my the of the I don't know I'll talk very great for him

I'm going to I'm the victory. I'm going to the victory with Dailush and so he's a

time. But as I'm a lot of a lot of a lot too Dara Lucha that's a lot of the

Sola, the other accept a in pet also if I if I was to post someone I'm post

in Charles that he can't wince the LUT And one the last what I

I'd hear your opinion is the Conor McGregor against Michael Chender, the Conor

still still not the honor and not not yet the data that will roll finally, not know what

will happen finally the he's going to get a attack that's grand-dainter that's great- first time,

it's been to get to be this is fath but, but, the chance I think very hard,

very d'n, but it's a guy of a round, so I see the Kano winning this Lutén't

it's very very difficult but I think to get to get the Kono a round just a single the show

there's a Chando and have, yeah, get to get the Apollo to be so

so I'm so I see the the victory the Kono And so just to hear,

but can't enter on your Instagram to see, you're a guy who's

always there's a time ago, oh, millennos after, polo, there were

were a kvevers of every person that you that you've that's a but in the

but in the but in the only the only the question about about the right about as pretty

that's a tattooed that tattooing you did after that's after you did it after you generally

just talking when I'm I did my own my name Japanese so it was a name

Japanese so it was a so I'm a turner in a day in the American W.C. N.

N. I said these pedrines here, every cada. When I go not cotian, I'm going to a cartoage.

And this, now, the whole, the whole whole, Negg, so this arm's right,

this breast here is the brother of family of leon, there's a family of leon, my wife, my wife,

both the child, and the child, and I'm, there's a family to put down the family, also,

with the passage biblical here with the family, then the back back more

more the other. Atraz, the abatement, Christ descends, so on the skaters. So, I have several

designs just, I'm just a time to do you, to do you, and finalize all the entire of tattooage. Exactly, exactly,

yeah, the whole, so the right, so the right, is the right, to end, I'm going to be a part of

the end, the left, the right, I have, all the design, yeah, I'll just, just,

to, get, to be there, and rasked the the right, it'd have been

some hours for you to do you have done some questions to the time. No, it was one

so, I did one only one four hours, it was four hours and five hours because,

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house, he was doing this was doing my back, but mania but if you

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We have to take Tiago Marretta that's the first April, after the first time in a new in an environment new new, in a

house new place, how is the expectation for this new areas that you will have there and, and clear, the expectation

to the for a return ative after after after 100% the body. So, Guillermo,

all right, so, I'm, so, I'm glad, I'm, Marradown, I'm impuged. The expectativa

are the best possible, new event, a house new, new opponents, new challenges, so I'm pretty quite much and,

I'm pretty, for, I'm still, still trying to still trying to be able to look, despite the

reasons, all the problems still, I'm still, I'm trying to do what I do what I'm doing,

so this me makes very happy. You're 100% now? How are you

how was your recuperation for this moment now and a little bit more and a little bit more

I'm not I've had a interval great this way so after after the last time

I did my new surgery in the moment and then I've had this time

great of recuperation so we're so much so much so much you can't

have a opportunity to go to an event of the PFL in the last, after you know, after you've seen with him, what you've seen in the climate after the time

as a lot of, as a person who, now, is a business new, how is this experience to experience, to live and respirees of an event of the NFL? No, it was legal,

though I'm as I'm as a spectator, but now, I'm first, you know, I've got really really inserted in in an event,

as an athlete, participating in the of all this backstage that has pre-lutta, so I really I'm going to feel how the

things do you do not, but until then it's all my marvile I've been been not I don't

have to reclarm no, I still, I've been been all been very so, you are one of

was one of one of the great contractations of the PFL for this year, so he just

he just wanted that he just, he just, we'd try as in the final of the past year and would have a superlut in the last

event all the year but it was a recuperation not made up the lesion but how's your spectatorial

in this sense because it's just it's there's great apostions to you're

putting the guy that was the champion of the time last yeah I

I got this this I'm very the pinion, with certainly will put me

very in the fit in the time, I'm working for this. There's two months,

I'm two months, now for the lower, putting the more, making more adjustments and

the game was a very good, I was really good, I'm sitting very very confient

for this and I want to get with with the door, and get to

people to say that's the people, Tiogo Chihue that's

my objective. He gave a revigorated in the career, since he subured he was up to category, he was the middle, he was in the Fereverick, he perde,

he per'd by the barraudusada, who washington, and he per- that's a champion a little time after. And since then, it's been in Vickpa

in the career, what you've what you've found? The last time he's got much more he does more

the same but maybe maybe not not suffer so too in the court of and for so he

is the better in this division than he's a time

he's so he evolved well, he evolved quite and with the

adaptation his same like with the mine he's he's

adapted very very there's great victories, I think, I'm not

megown, all the more, so, though, it's more, it's,

better, evolve physically technically also. So I think the subbid of the good for

him and there's a great lot of the other than the two derotas of the FC one thing

we can observe is that when he looks against strikes durus and perigos he uses

wrestling so we did to observe this detail so we're prepared about this game of wrestling.

It's what you think he will do you want to do you? He will try to try to tryation

with you. He's he's made a man pesable, but maybe against you decide not

risk a kind of trying to try to a way that he considers more secure? Yeah,

I think the our sports OVMA evolved a lot of today, no more this

concourse of some some even do some do you but it's but it

sure that one procured strategically the the best way to wince the

lot. So he is a good strike also, he's a bad box, he's a

hand a man but he know that he's also the kind of he's

so he will be the way way that's the wrestling

so it so it's so you're very so you know

you're always you know this is the plan that you think you

maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe to show your Jiu-Git in this

also? It's clear that I've trained a lot of the arts martial that are not are characteristics

mine as origin, like Jiu-Git, wrestling, but we know that it is difficult to move to

the wine to our Jaze. I'm a Natt, I love to try to try, I'm trying

I'm trying this in the last time, I'm not dancing, so it's difficult to take the characteristics of

a person, so I'm a strike, it's clear that I'm going to buskary the part in the pet, but I'm well prepared for all, I've trained enough my Jiu-Jitsu, has evolved a lot of Jiu-Jitsu, in the part of the wrestling, so it's a clear that's a opportunity on the

I'm not going to go to the I don't have a problem with this, so we're just a prepared for all, but my base is the strike, no way. And what you've moved, if you did it, in a your form of to train,

knowing that in the NFL, differently of the FC, you know, if you continue to wincing, the total routine, the your calendar

will be full, you know, the other side, you know, the other side, you know, a thing, in the FC,

it's very difficult to get to do four luts in the same year. You moved, to, are training

less, more, in form more intelligent, how is the preparation in this sense?

Yes, with certain I did some adaptations in my training, I'm not

more a lot of I'm in my lesions so I have to me

precave in training in the lot in the we're not we're not much

to think and to think of the path because it's a lute

it there if you're to happen will happen the lesions

are inevitable are inevitable as sometimes they sometimes

they're so but But in the training I have me precarved a lot I've been

trained less, but more more concentrated, training more concentrated, more concentrated, more

shortes. And it's that's doing a bit more my body, so I have to

have to this good to have done I've made this adaptation

for the training. Just to just to just to mention your ultimate Luda

for the then he ended up being a champion in the United Dutas Improvable, that were being married, he went to the Glover here in Rio, that he won't, it was a malluton. What is your vision about him as a champion, you think it's a guy that's a game to be

a game to be dominant, as the John Jones was, as well, you think that, being in the category of the way that's, and he, as a athlete, it's more difficult that he can't be able to be made, I think in

moment I don't see him like a champion for much time in a moment but I

think he is new even he has he has much he will evolve, he has been to be able to but in

moment I think the the signoron will circular a little so. Fala if he

whether he against the barrovich you think the against the two

the tendency that he wins or you think against these two the burraca more

and the bottom is he I don't consider. I think he, as a lot of he leaves more advantage than against the

my opinion like the game, the caseamend the game I think the prohask he's always

it's not, he goes to do do it, he goes to do all the Jamal Hill he not he doesn't

he's put a hand to get a door too but it's a guy that's a kind of a certain distance,

different of Projasker that attack, without thinking in a defense. So in this case, in this

casam of the other, I think the name of his, the Jamal Hill, he was a advantage for this, for

he'd think more in the defense than the pro-hask. Yeah, the Blockovit is more

a more than more fechated, and I think he can impose the game of the wrestler, to put a pressure,

also, the box of his, I think, in the case the game, I think the Yan will make more

problem for him than he than the pro-hask, you know? So I think in a lot in the other options that

you gave, I think he is a favorite against the Porraska, but not is a

favorite against against the other other other other other

his way who who of the war he's against the Miotit, you think he will be that that's that kind of a little bit of a time, a guy who reigned during the time, you impressioned the

way he won't see a lot thing, the lot of it was very rapid, but what's your vision general, so, of John Jones now with a peso pesero and champion? Yeah, so I think he would be able to wince the luta, but not so rapid so. So we can't see

much the gas his way he he's like a little a little a

way to a lot of a lot of he's he not will be much time he will

do you have to one or two other other maybe one he's I'm not

a lot of a lot of I think he will be a long for much time as a campaign of my

president. I think he will be a lot of my tits will be more more difficult, it will be more

more difficult. From the other side of the line we have Marcelo Gourman that on the day 31 does the

proletor 293 against Daniel James, my friend welcome to podcast, how is being

being the podcast, how is it's been being a first time doing a little bit of belator, I'm the moment.

I'm a moment of for me, because, boy, I've been working for a lot of time, trained, very dedicated,

and it's the result of the work, so I'm very happy with an opportunity and I'm very much to a good

but I'm prepared, I'm well. It's a old for you, in a year and a year and a year,

like, in a little bit of a two victories a knockout, a finalization, or is exactly

this type of that you I'd expect to have been in the event that's that's that's it's just

it's just it's just to go direct to the heads. So, it's my objective,

it's clear, I don't think that's so rapid, I'm really I felt I'm

I'm sure, I know, I know, I know, I know that's I'm sure, I think

to be a little a lot, not certainly, this lot would have been the

last time had been the time would have been the Norma Gomen Mendovi

but then they they've got passed on a lot to front, they've got to be in a event.

So I know I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure maybe in the next time

the future but it's but I'm really happy for caram I've been a time time for

time for so I'm I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure you're not the last

the last the event in a cat that there's a cat is a in the

england, that's a pro, it's a football with the Ronda Rouse so she's, she's,

she's, she's a she's for their infatada Ronda. And the Belatow put it, she's in

you, it's about the category of the Peses but you, when you saw, you know, the

name on her she's sure, or for you for you more, it does more

sense. No, I think it more because it's clear, it's a land of

sport, don't know to say, oh, she's sinister, I'm the peasados are

just using a guy a guy impugent so I think I thought I think it was certain

that they put up in the principal because they know that when I will go to start I'm going to

start a lot of I don't go to the jury I never won't a lot in the

hand of the jurors and the category of the peasats and it also

it's a lot there is a great I'm a lot of it has been my

and I also I think, with the guy is the guy is coming in a good, the guy's a lot of the

car is a car over the so I'm so I'm I'm sure you're maybe a lot of this, maybe I'm

like the fourth or the third of the ranking with sure there's no there's not to be now.

So I think I'm after this is clear I'm I need to focus much in this

this look now that's a car durissimo but passing him I believe that I'm a lot out of the title, or we know that

happens in previs, someone who's a lot of year, something, so a good victory now on the day 31, it could be to go back

to the title, because if it's going to be previso, I want to be to be ready to to be ready to more a lot

even, but if it's not for the title, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm going to be able to then I'm going to

get a little, but then I'll be not the FC has much this

to have a kind of a place to a stature. A bell at a lot of not quite you could be able

so you can't do you know, you can't get in this get in this position there's a

kind of you know, you end as a substitute but you put in a lot of a little

card, yeah, it's a thing you get a same time, you know, and you

just put a the first, pull up to the question, yeah, so I'm don't,

I'll tors don't, don't talk to get never, but I'm at least a lot on the data and it's a problem

because we know it happens, we know, we know, we're doing it, so it's possible so I want to happen there,

it's like I'm thinking about this first, it's a man, but after this is my plan. If I got a little day

of the dispute, perfect. Because even that not not happens a lot for the title, but you're going

to be there like the next contender of Beltor. So, let's wait now, to wait a

guard. With all all this depends, of course, of you do you know, you're doing

to do you know, and to do you know like the kind of, how is the confronts of

these confronts of stills there. A man, a guy a great, we've seen

the guy bat, the guy bat, the guy bat pesed, understand. So,

there can be, I'm trying to be a lot but he but it a guy

perigoso, you have to take to take care because the guy batte pesed

and all the lot of the lot of the world he's a good really. So it's a

lot of good, I think I think I'm sure but it has a good to be

got to be a lot of experience. He's passed for various events around the world of

the world only he's just a lot for in a little

for example for the last you have been a lot with a prospect there

with a prospect of the The guy, it's been finalized here, has been knocked out of him a lot of time after, but in the last years,

it's in a sequence major. You're analyzing the future of his maybe the best way is knockoutier, or you think the

finalization can be this better trajectory there? It's logical, today I'm on a point that I'm prepared

for all right, if I have a chance to knockoutia there I don't go to go ahead with him, to form

some of I'm I'm ready to try it and it's clear, I have a advantage in

the ground in relation to him in a way, but I am still in a amma. So I don't go ahead

the trocation of him, but if I get an opportunity to put up back, if the lot to go to the

ground, I'm done, I'm done, that's a turnal that should roll out of Bader

against the Vassel, who you who you think you know that's that's a favorite

he? The Vesto is very very well, they've all done, they've got is a guy's

more more more suffering that cut of a quarter of a lot of but I

still think that's a bader. I think the Bader so that's not the Bader still the Bader

still the better than he'll put more rhythm he has more gas than the best you I believe

in the first two rounds there the Bader. It's actually I'm not Tostholm I'm trying to

go see the Toulote on the day 31 bringing this victory carimbling, possibly the chance to the centauron, if not,

for at least a semifinal to guarantee this ticket to the title, right? Yeah, it's not pretty. We're getting, and, as you said, now, there's a lot of, you know,

but I'm going to do a good job, I'm ready, I'm sure, I'm 100%, I'm well, without, I've been, I've been a lot, I did a good camp, so there's all to me

to be a victory, and it's coming to in the head, in brev. On the other side of me, now we have to have been Munoz, I think on the day

15, I'm in the F.C. against the last week, that's the postings of that were the

question of the end up the future, and the first of a guy that's a guy who came doing a

badoo in the other the FSA and it's normal. You just just picked a peddria

down the FZ, right? It's is the expectations are good, the time those are good, the time

are great, this will be my 109 the organization and I only nutting with pedreira

just something that I always I think never was something was always

something was always something me motivated and and and putting

there and obtaining the top 10 the top 15 in the last six years

so I have no no there's no other so there are

Lutas Duras M. In which I 've been preparing with this psychologically, physically,

and of the day of this will be more a great day, a grand event.

There, there's, there's a year, there's, going to the lot against the

Shannomal , right? Nine months. This, this, this, demora, it was,

was because the deadada in the eight, eight months, eight months, eight months. So,

not to get to a, Yeah, it's eight months. I did a count now, here, very rapid, here. I took three months after that Luta, I don't feel

any one interview. I don't say anything about this. You're the first guy, that I'm talking about the LUTA. I did a media junk, of WhatsApp but I don't enter in so detail in this aspect. I waskeed three months

without, can't take any any golf in the eye. I had a, I had a a cut of my cornea and this

court he was very profound and during two two

two months I'm very embassad so every every

the first the last time we saw we saw

the time was diminu the the time was

getting with with the medics with all all and then

the last after three months, the lesion in the I was totally liberated to

trainer. So I just started to trainer and I just knew that the moment that the the

revante not would occur, that the Sean, he would be to put to

Peter and that I think I think he's in the final I think

I've been training and there some some some some some

some didn't don't get the certain and now it It's, it's

it's, it's it, it's it's the last two years that I signed the contract and that

this, this, this, this, this, this, that's, that's,

yeah, how it's, it's the three months, to get all all, it's, oh,

maybe, oh, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get, there's, like,

I'm not don't be a, but, but you, you know, you can't, you can't,

imagine, the, the, you know, the receipt that does the day day,

no panic not was the reason why I could see at the

night they're they're a coler and I had a little in the

which I could I could have been almost impossible to open the eye and the

old and the I don't know, but if you have a problem the

other practically also doesn't do you do you if I can give a deadada

in the you can keep a to be a automatically the two fetches. So,

with this attendiment that I took in the same night, I could see just in this same day so I

perceived that was in it was in no, I was in a vision turva. Logo,

two days after I did a time, the, an attendiment to the

medical occulista and I know that I didn't have not had not

had been a retina this was this was a, was a point

very important, to even for my for my for my for my for my for my for my

people not had not feta nothing and it was a but it was a cut

so so the water the light of something that that I'm

that I'm that's three months so it was the point that was that was

totally properly after after I just I started after three

months I'm I'm I'm I'm totally completely I'm was trying

I'm trying to do so so it was period, like I used

also to recover to one other versions too, yeah, the arm, things of this type.

And then all this you have to pass, for three months to get to take a time, I imagine,

the people, the people, the people, people, she said, oh, she's, the guy

of the person, will be so, so, man, he said, so,

man, he was, he was, he could take, and he was, he was, he was,

trying to he was, po, finging, that he could to go to the luther. Yeah, no, with

a look, it's a thing, it's a little, the arm, the way, it's quite, and I know people in the

world of box and the M.A. That's, that, not have, not, not,

not, it's a lot, we don't think, not, to happen, to happen with a or a

we don't do, it's always so, but I'm always, I'm used just,

I'm understand, opinions of thirders, this day, something, that, sincerely

not me affect. And talking about the lot of specifically, you know, a guy

we're going to he's about in the FCC with a sequence in vitto since

2018, but countercars that not are the guys not but in

the last they put, he's for a little back, he said,

poor, a requin of realade to get, for Frank Edg to be for the guy

got got got sent much him, but, poor, the Chris M.

Ch. is a guy that has been he has chated of his for what he mosted until now

he's never he's a guy that we've seen many there's many the time to work he's a guy

he not he not a fight in fight in the the lute maybe travado

in the guy who he's a guy who he's he's chute really good he gets

to he chute a lot lot not boxe yeah the part of the part of the thing,

I've got a opportunity to see is decent and there some other and there's

a guy strategist also, it's a guy strategist a guy a guy, a guy,

a guy, a guy, technically but I believe in my arms, I believe

that my experience, I believe that my durability, in my form physical,

in general, and to have been with guys like, let's say, more

more dangerous, so, this point of you think that this last time does that does that

you think he's you're gonna have been with a need to knockoutia to finalize

yeah I'm I always I always I always I always I always I'm

know because you know this sport has there's there

even of the own the own the life was a

was a example very very clear in relation to this. To

perform the way to perform the way to terminate this last time. But I think he's a guy

strategist, a guy that he can't, he looks back back, in the counter-golpe. It can

be a difference in the minimum, so it can be a lot of three rounds for these two

reasons, for these two options I'm prepared. And the next step, you're a person, you're a

man who I've always the best champions. You have an objective, a question I'd like

like I'd like to do you imagine, I'd like to make a revans to chanomali, but I think

now it is difficult to convince he to get a little the so what you

have in mind for the next for the process in the future.

Yeah, what I have in mind is my my next last

the year my two and me and for this

the lot, focused in to bring this victory. And the plans,

after this day, can influence to be many other things. The my relation

with the F.C., I believe that I have more three two new

new I'm I'm 27 years this year, 37 years in September

of this year. So I think I want to compete in a

Miv the F. I we have a line to to quimar, you know, they've

already just said, I'm going to renewing my contract as in possible, but I

also also I've also in relation more, but two years of I,

I'm putting on the UFC, and then I don't know with 38, if I

go to get a general of the sport, or what will be the next,

but I like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I think that's set this year, I think I have a lot of a lot of a lot of the time in the time in the people are in

people are people in America top team seminaling we have always good companies of training. I think my

better even, I think the my, I mean a little at every camp,

at every training, at every period of competition I do do the various the years

the pastes of course physical, resistance, a 2 maximum, and even, and with 36 years

now, in this moment, I'm in the opposite, of all these exitutes physical, there's a lot of experience in the Octagon also, who came more

in the part emotional, to know to, know, more, to deal with the demands, so,

but I, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,

I think, I think, I think, I think, two years, then it will be the final for me. I imagine

that obviously the objective is to get the cinturon in this ultimate time in the career. A we'll have

been to the mid-Moy Stirling infrenting the Reh and Serrude that will return in the book of the

central to what is your opinion about this this lot? You think that the question

subestim the guy even you can't you've been still in some person being a man being a

You think that the Sehudo goes to and he's a time parable and he's a time he's a game to win him? I believe

that's I believe that has a form physical very good very strong, a guy that he he,

he, not is the those of the people are the top of the same, are the point of

the strategy and are very good are very very good good, I'm very or look,

nothing a person but the form to do a form a little different in the form

that I do not for him he is a champion and I think he Rens and

he's rube all this time I think in a lot after a little after a

different so I can't make a so I see the favoritism I see the

favoriteism strong in the same of the just to we just to be this dynamic

in the category because the Merab Devartesvile which is a very good for many for a centurone but he is

a member so they're not going so they're going to be this situation for two guys of the

same the same in the top but not it's not it's not a thing is this is a

thing over many times in MMA but how how you see a situation specifically

in this case of Scherry and the Merav yeah it's This decision is a decision

a little different and the form that I see is, by the R.C. Rour, all this time, have been a posentat, retorned by the centuron, this then shows to me that this is no logic

to no, no logic to no, I think he, I think he was the champion of the category of I don't know if he was a champion of 135, who he got him. It's the example of the Moshe and the Gallow.

He was the champion of the Garland on the same of who? Do Dominique? Yes, of the Dominique. So, so, apparently, it's a lot that vending, it, seems that are two guys, that have a influence great in the organization, because I think, I think, what would have more sense for me,

if not were the show Amali, even, many people, not concording with a decision of the juicer in the fight against Peter Yang, and he got, and the Peter he was number one. So it would be a shot, to with Al Jemestele

but with this entry to R.R. R. No, did much sense in my point of

my point of view of professional. No, he made a mean he to get to do you

do that's that he and he and the Rameh and the C. De Riga that are

two guys that I would think they would one of two

disputed the sturtal the even a Tomom Amal

but with with a with this luther with this lot of the R.C. R.

than this marketing than the merit of sportive, in fact, but in this occasion in si, three people that are in the door,

that were the Merab, the C.D. Reagan, who had a victory expressive in over the chitouver now this final of the week.

And the Sean O'Mah, that even the juie's giving a victory for him, he gained a lot so it was the decision of the juicies, the decision that was the decision that comes,

and he got the number one in the time, and he was putterian, so, and this time sitting now, he's still the next, so it makes much

sense, you know, this day, I think it's just that's part of the politics, that I don't, that I don't know, I don't

think, I don't think, I'm not, I don't get much, my time, energy, and I'm,

I'm, I'm, kind of, I'm not, I know, the channel on your quadrard. It's a lot

that not, it's a lot of a lot of a lot of your question. The last is you get in the

discussion there no, not? I don't see it would be the number nine of the category,

my opponent number 13, so realistically saying, I would enter into the top eight,

9, 10, seven, what were, but the guys are a little more more

than I talking to talking to the point of the point of realistic I'm not I'm not I'm a

I'm not I'm not I never never feel I'm like I'm like I'm saying I'm saying

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victory and you can set in this conversation there. There are other people in the front even the problem of the

Cable, there's a lot of there's a lot of let me see. This day is plans for

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