MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | José Aldo, Rafaela Silva e Alexandre Pantoja

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

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Seniors and Seniors, in command of the podcast Trocaation Franca and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in in Brazil,

Guillem Cruz! Hello, Omibu Fan of Luka Welcome to the 4th episode of the podcast Trocacacacaca,

a sua on this immense boat of the fair. I'm Gailerm Rews, correspondent of the

American on M.M.A. in the third-feer in the company of Josioio Raphael

Silva, two lenders of sports that I've got in the second day of the New York. But before I'm going to bring the talk to them,

I'm a re-sening with Alixion and Pantoja that's a place in Panteneon of Idros and champions of FECC

when he front of Morrow's the Ruech's on the year of New York in Lashvegas how you

come out of my name? Welcome to the podcast. Imagine the time to have your time to

start the title, yeah, well, man, maradassus, I kind of I'm like

I'm like I'm like I'm kind of I'm sure I'm sure when she it's

it's like it's something it's I'm I'm remember that I'm

I'm I'm and my my wife and she got to leave the

college she said oh mark a lot it's marked and

and then I'm I'm not I'm not I'm I'm I'm

to run all and I but but I

I I I feel very very very to be able to know,

I think everyone who came out of many people, from the time, from the walks,

a camiada long and and I am gonna from 2007 that I did my first of my first

so there a good a good way to I did to get where I came to

this dispute of the and I go much very force I'm very very

strong very for what what will happen. How your your wife

Focelyn Foccurts before she than I to leave the kids in the college she's not she'll be

more because the training and all right and she she'd be the first I'd give this

this news I'm sure she said she said she said she'll say oh it's

marked the my my company yeah but I'm getting

in that she'd be in that's like that he said that he something when it's when it's

It's the canals that we know, that we know, say, you know, so we're going to ESPN, in the MMA, and everything, so we know that in the MMA junk,

so it's marked. When it's not, it's not that really not so speculation, is that, both I, and the Morrow

we've, we're just to do that we're that we're just to do that we're doing, in the team Mobile Arena,

the first time that I've got in the team Mobile Arena, I've got in Las Vegas some times. It's,

really, I think, I think, the ceregia of the bowl of all of everything that happened. It's a surprising that not it's a moment like this that the FC

has demurred it too to have a champion Mexican, now have three and not we'll do a event in Mexico. Yeah, I don't know how it is in Mexico, the business paperview, you've been talking about paper view, that not can't be able to be able, not know really how it is this.

I actually that would be in Mexico, he could leave this to look to Mexico. But for me, it's better to be in the States United, it's a wayage that not

longed. I've said they're going to know that's a problem where I'm doing I'm going to

in Denver in Colorado, where there's a altitude very elevated and really does difference.

So I'm going to Las Vegas, in a state that I had been a state in the

United, not be in some logistics so great I'm I'm content I'm going to live my

children, my husband, but all all the people there will be

a time incredible, will be other Lutas I'm going to be.

I'm very fan of Volcano of the form of the I'm going to be maybe I'm actually I'll even see the McCreggle, and I'll play with you

God, I'll just be in this moment, living in this phase I just have to thank you I'm doing every day I think I've already I've already I've already for some my friends

more close to I never really, that I shere would be in the UFC and and in the

dispute of the truinal. It's what I think things were going to be going to be doing this

space and I accepted every desire, I made a pass up to all the I've got to my family

I'm in different I'm in different I'm different, I see my place, I'm here

in America Top Team. I'm now really I'm really I'm I'm sitting in car, here in Florida, in the States United.

I could live this moment, do do my camp with my family, my spouse, me helping my food and my husband are my family

to go to the family with me. I'm very happy to have him there. And, I really, I just,

I'm a very much that I want this centuron for more that's not for me, but for

for everyone who is to my side too, but, but if me asked, if I'm

a venceder, I'm a man, I'm a winner, you, with nothing in the life, and today I'm

here in the States Units, I'm trying to to pay my house, I'm trying to my car to be to get to

my kids that are in English fluent, are with a life trazada, does the sport of their, so,

really, I don't, I don't, I don't feel to the centuron because I feel like that.

You've got a your family, your spouse, your children, to do you do you're a thing you're

something you do you're doing, or you're My dispute I went a week we went to

a lot of a lot of a lot of the FC Glasgow it was my second Luton I'm gonna

she was a maradown I'm doing it and I'm on course and I'm on the kind of

something something that something happened with the car I went to do the process I did

did the camp certain to be up to be able to be a strong a shape

very good I was there she was with her she was there in the new Rio. But my

children didn't have this opportunity won't have to now. I'm

feel like to be able to be with me I'm so much a friend of Duduino

and he was with his children there was last time I've tried to get to

my men but was sold out the event was too was a and I

saw the back and then after the they were there's also me emotional

so me my I'm also also here in house, I'm doing here in

house, I'm going to my son my son my son and my work in the I'm a lot of

him, I'm really really with Dorin too, and so much in this lot of the clitoral,

my children will be going to my future to do that football that he

was a champion state here in the Florida he had a

campaign a national of the United unfortunately he not he will

be he will be coming there that I think is

very important for him. I even I asked for you, you want to go to your competition? It's important for him, but I think this moment of I can dispute this centuron and wince, and be my family there, can't be vencering

this with me, it's an opportunity unique. I'm, I'm sure that have other disputes of centurons, but I think this first will be a thing that will mark a lot of much. And, poor, are 30 luts professionales that you've already

to get in this moment. What is you are seeing now compared to the other Lutas, because I imagine that be different, you know, still have a time for, to the Tupon, but you know that, back,

some weeks, you will enter there to, and the opportunity to the Centuron, which is one thing you always wanted. Really, 30 Lutas, I've got, I've got, I've been, I've been champion of Shototou, I, was champion of the RFA, I'm, I'm, I'm

feel more prepared, really, to viviencear everything I will be going to be things new in the summer of the week,

I'll have more interviews, more more than I'm really very proud for this

moment, I'm not really really to be to do that this for everyone

I know, I want I want to be my way possible I'm

a camp here of America Top Team car to train here in

America Top Team is a great challenge is a great challenge

today today I could be on a I'm Jericho Morais, with Joseph Formiga, with the Victor,

not so known, but is a champion, he is the don't know on the Tintan of the Titan. He is a man who could be easily in the top 10 of the FC, uh, of my peso,

the fireways, among other guys, who are bizarre, you train with them. It's a pleasure, a privilege, a very great with these guys. And,

and some of the doubt, it's a very, very pronto, it's a, it's a challenge every day to train here in America the Top Team.

So, So, you know, all these my companions and I'm, you're the champion I'm, I'm the champion

and everything. But for training with these guys, I know, there's not a champion before the hour,

you know, you have to pass through the process, and I'm, I'm ready to to pass for this process, I'm ready to

be done to get can't be to train can't, do, do this recovery and

all this but I think that this me makes much Pronto, you know, is to be

to bevency this every day you know, you're going to be very and you get in the academy,

you take a trupeal of and you say, oh, wait, there really, really,

really doesn't really the world, I have to work, I'm going to work to work to

get a more, for a moment, may be emotional, you know, for you know, you're going to

get ariol to be a real estate, that's a city, but it's a city little, of structure

and all to be I was living in Florida a few weeks of being a champion of the world in the UFC. I see that

I'm a great symbol to rao a rival a symbol of perseverance of that you you're crediting on what you

want to be you can't you can't never I'm even bicycle I had so I always went very

in a city I'd to one side to to look to my train and always people

me and I I've looked very in the city I did different events of Muay in the

city of the city of the MMI so everyone know, and everyone always happened to me

and said that I'm going to go to get me to be in the F. Many

people said that this would get to get and the prophecy is concretizing and I

feel like for these people have been having said having that they're saying that

It's very common we see in stories, like my name, to say in people who said that you're not going to get to go. In my case, it was the contrary. I've many people

saying that I would have to get back. And at least I don't think it's so, or I don't want to have this pressure to say,

not it really, it's going to but today I see happening. Today I'm going to a level very high.

I'm I see training with the world and being one of the best, not here in America

Top Team as when I look at the FC, I see the how I evolve mentally,

physically so I'm really really really really pretty and very happy to provide

this. Not for my city, not just for my city, I have to Rial

New York, I have a different in New York, I'm I'm created in Rale of,

I've had a time, I'm helped me helped me helped me always I

always when I I'd get in a place, I'd try training and the the Luta me left

for all of the places. So I have certain that all the people who passed over my life

will come to celebrate this title with me. I just think after this

sunturon will have to get to a statue to you put out by the last of

Lavae Al Al-O-Cab in the place, I'm I'm a man

on the I'm a man to I'm Cabo that was going to to the kids,

have in sports, art martial in school and all the and I think more than a statue,

maybe a project, the project more concrete would, or even a a space with my

name, I would preferer than a statue, I think, a statue I don't symbolize

so well, what I want to me, to the city of Cabo, no,

I want to give a little to the city that me made that they

a statue of Flabella Lesotha is a more beautiful than a statue of a statue of pantos no, I don't see, this biggot

me lefts beautiful, it's really this bigot that's a manned, but I'm going to

the lot of the other a man who you know a man who you know two times a lot of two times, a lot of

the cartel because it was in the tufe but it was a true, one was

a tropel or other was a finalization what can you can you can't you

in the Toronto FC, you're a more experienced, he also evolved a lot to go to the last year, what are the two luts are to you,

going to be in to this, I think he can't be able that he's a champion, I think this this,

this confidence of him for him for him, it's a lot of a lotterer totally different, I know of

this, but it's a guy who really I've beency, I look in the eye of the eye of

I see where I can't to press there. Many people talk about how he evolved

he evolved, and without I'm in five years in America the top team interned here and I

know how I've evolved too, how I'm too, and I'm sure that you know a

lot of different I don't I don't I'm never than this I want to I'm really to look

against the best you know, it's that I'm sure he's he will be the Devisson Figuero

he's very contunditement, not there did the end of the eye, never, there was a part of the

hand, the arm, the ocinole there, so I know, that's so much, but he also,

he also, he's also, a knockout was a lot of a car car france, that's a lottoe a lot of

a lot of a lot of a lot of doing, making a baruio in the category too,

knockout, the cold, He had the pern of The coached Also, I have the I have certain the quech. But there's a lot

of the douged, car. It's a guy who made for meherser. There's a story very beautiful in

FC. It's a guy who the 10th, the last, the last, the last, the last,

the last, and, poor, we did a guy, he did a little lot,

and he can't to the UFC, was called the last time, and go, and gain,

a bonus, and he's he's he's he's going to LFA

and he will be a LFA and he's and he's consangra the winner of

the so it so it's a so I'm a respect me the

respect him the family that he he was a he's

a champion that's a person he can know a

he has a he has a love he's he's he

he knows he's he's he does You do make that the part of Lego. It's a guy that's a

directly to the FC doing for the F.C. In Spanish so, no, but I'm sorry that I'm thinking

much about this, car. The FC not about the loter, who is the loter,

the UFC was created to prove who is a best artist martial and I am going to

prove this. We've we've recently the Ludo Bautan with Adesani

that had this preguisee, yeah, had 3-0 and a-0, and

that's been in front-a- and he ran to be in your son and you think that the more he enters

mentally, he's, he will enter, pressonado, porra, I'm, I'm,

you know, or you think this, or he might use this to a form more positive,

like, I'm trying to get me two times, how you think you how you think

that's that's that's that's that , And, if I'd be asked for me, if I was to fight with David, I'm sorry to dover, I'd train the last time, you know, and I've been certain, then the Moreno,

will train the triple. I know that he will be very pronto, very prepared. And it's for that I'm training so, I'm training so, I'm trying to reinventing. I'm trying to make every day. I'm trying to make every day, both in my foodation

as in my training, I'm trying me to put in a zone to get in a zone of

the discomfort the time whole. And, busking this really, because when

the cabal Moreno will be a Davidson, will be a McHark, will be a

great name in a category I think that this category never

never been so I'm very content to do this, very content

to do it do you do a part. And I hope, without the same of the great lot of

this category that's a mark history. How was the Dayton I'm I'm difficult to equal to

get him Demetro Johnson 11 of defenses of a centuron but I hope

to get on pound for pound I'm I want much to bring with these

guys in pound for pound I don't just be the champion in my category I want

I want to show that I'm one of the most artists in the world. And you think, Gainando the Morina now is it, or you think for him being the champion and he's a guy

popular and and all, can have a revant immediate? I think, in the case I've been on the end up

if it was for points, a lot more for him, but I don't see the UFC, the guy just disputed

diversas at a few times, like a signoron, so I don't see the UFC

giving this chance to get a minute to it's not in the order to be a lot of

a lot of good, there's much have to have this thing to go and and

so bad of a doubt, I hope, I hope that I wince to wince

well, and that I can be able this year and I'm try in

end- who know even, I want I want to be

a champion active, but before this, obviously there's a moreno, but really, I don't see putting him, in the case of he to put him to plotor, no, no. It can happen, as you said, it's a guy that agrega much to the UFC,

but it really has to go. It's a caras-noves, but it's possible that it would come a vellied car, no, because the Davidson-Figuero decided to find him in the Paiso-Moska and will be affronted the Manel-CAPe in the

same night. So, if he gained the Manel-Cap, it's possible that he dispute the Trump more one way again against you

know, you'll have the chance to ving your a defrault I'm

a lot because of this lot to make a mark a got a now that after the

Kyle Air France yeah but I know I'm a Rekek San Juan

Junio and yeah mark the Davidson Figuero against

Manel Kapp again really, really can't make this category

in terrible yeah but who say I think the It's a great

It's a business that's growing every more. If I don't me wrong, the UFC

did in the year of the money that he was been bought and it got to

the numbers billionaires in one year. So, really the guys are not for

a big big event of the world of arts martial I

have I'm sure they have all the decision

of the Deyson to do Mosca, after to

say that would be to the Gallo? I think he in no

Mosca, he has more chance for the title now. How was

put the pro Janovo. I think no Pesso Gallo he would

be more one there, if he if he had been he would so be

so he would be so so would be a try shot would

be a more interesting for him but get those

pedreer there Pes Gal is ched ched the

a laco, d'n. And you see a sterling now that will be to be a guy who's

a guy a good shot, of who would have with the Sten

of the Zernerner, but I'm an assertive really, he'd be a little

the parada of the power of his category, agrega much for the category

to have the Deyso Figuero with the with a guy Car

Fence, how there's a carfans, as a American, also are making a

car, are some names very strong in the category and

And there's more names getting, there's a Bruno Bulldogan that's there's a newcouts and the last

he's a knockout of a knockout brutal too a man who now he got he got to

really, he's able to do the work of his so you see that the category in my

view, there's there's a category not a category movementated but I

don't see this what I see is the Playway getting a bonus after

of bonus of borgues The bulldochee, then, is choshen the bolst. Exactly. My last two last

two last were two bonuses were two bonus. And you see the Davidson Figuero,

Morenno no-coucho the Figuero Feeterfence Poh, you've that was a lot of

the Chinese also that was a lot really a lot of the year of the year

of the year last. So, now you have a manel Capcom Davidson. You have

the man the Mattos Nicolal with a rival, that will be a lot very interesting to the category. And it's

it's a category that really is a lot of good, I'm really very happy for the people to be doing this work.

I'm a content also. For me, it's one of the categories that I most I like to see too,

how is it would you feel to bring a signetown to the UFC to the UFC for Brazil,

that we we've made that this year, this year, this year, can be big,

this year, this year, can be five champions, can't have this, can't have that's the

most of the whole, it's a same thing that there's a lot of the world of Poitin,

the Charles antes, the Davidson, and it's just Amanda Nunnus has a centuron and no

man, no man as a champion, how is how you can see, how you're getting

the car to, to bring this signoron to come maybe, maybe,

maybe, a recommence of the both the best the time between the men,

at the women, at the moment, the world, man, Amanda is exceptional but MMA is a thing

really lowca, we know of this the people who live the MMA is to be in the we know, we know, we know how

that MMA is a sport do a, car, no, there's a favoriteism, no exists

and there. And, so I can say this in the day 9 of July, you, I don't

have to say, I don't have to to have to work much, to have to have a guy very hard

to confront a guy who's a guy who came showing because he is the champion a lot of

one of the most of the he's seen in the Pesomosh that is Davidson Figuero a category

not just he just he destroyed he did he did he did putt both

with both he's a man who he came very very very

he came he per interroo the bernavit you know a lot was a

old school of the old school, the old-year was very respected, and poor, he took for a lot

and I'm not there's to say that I'm not to say that I'm going to work to get this day 8

of July and I want to tell you also that we're not with a lot

we've a lot of the country I've seen I'm a top team lotators people,

you know, you have Renato Moecano you have Tiago Moisis Pedrino will be able to be able to beards not quite a lot of

great number I think we've got never never many many people rankeated of Brazil this intersafia of Brazil

is coming very and MMA evolved too evolved too we've gotlers of all the places of the world we're seeing

Mexico now with three trinons a thing that never never seen the guys are a much time been battling

to put the the place of his. We had a titortiz there, but we're not born in Mexico, of fact, and today we see, the Mexicans

always have to the way with the lot of the box, there a school very great, and the Russians, you know,

the looters of Africa, so I'm I'm very content to do part of this all. And to finish the two interviews

that I did with Joseado and the champion, Olympica, Raphael Silva, during the

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the event of Gamebred but they're we're just negotiating negotiations to see

the battle in Saudi in the early with a professional, a boxerer at a man

professional not really in this we're in this we're we're in this we're

with Ali and we'll see what we'll see what we can't take and see this career in box. What was the difficulty for negotiation, passed all the way of my wedding? In which maybe has given this tar-banked to not go ahead this plan? Or it was more modern to vision of you? It could be

a little of both, I think, first the Wally, I've had negotiated with with the team, the staff, all right? Even when I remember in my front me, I said to everyone, so we'd just had, just fechering the lute, even in Arab-Saudito, also. I think it It was all right.

But I think that the way that I'm what I'm what I've mosted in the modality, in the box, so he's been gisting, creating an ophorism, we'll say, that we can't, be a miracle great, too, not even in our vision, a lot with the New Wether,

this can't happen, but I think that now, this first moment, we're going to put in this moment. You always said that wanted to go to box to do for doing career, Maybe in Freightal Beweller was that opportunity, well, great, unfreter a linda,

much a lot, but not to see what was your son, because if you were my wedder not, not just a career professional, because it would not be professional a lot. So, let's fight a boxer, a more, a lot of professional, what you wanted. Exactly, it was what you did, so I did, as I did, as well as,

doing the other people do, go and getting the athletes there, more tranquil, doing the career, getting an experience, to get some, but by the fact that, name that we have, also, it's very difficult to try to to try to try and try to choose the right,

and even when I was my last one last one he was a lot. He was a very much more pesed than I, I went to the event with 71.5, that generally, I always always peasant, he was in the 80, so there was a difference very great, so, so, Ali, lo, with a good lot, said we've been we've been to look at the category

certain, I think for me, I don't know if it's maybe, I don't see if it's a my three or something, it's a nine four categories, some category, but as I'm like you said, that's that's coming new opportunities, of the career, in the box, so, to this little bit more than we can't let's a little more to the front.

And what were the lessons that you have preneau? You said that the time of the round was very different, you felt this thought. When you could have to be a quent, it, and it would start in a lot that you sensed that you've been

but that's what were the decisions that you took this lute now? So, and we always have been learning, I think the first when we were doing something, when we started something, it was going to do a round, and I'd

I'd have been rinded, because I thought that had more time, so, in this one, I was just talking, I'm a friend, saying, oh, I'm, I'm, saying, oh, I'm, man, that I can't let me, that I can't let me a lot more planned, a lot, an prox, it's, by the explosion, we can't recover, and we'll make a explosion

in the lute, and then, and then, and then, and then, and thence going to move, and do it, and do something, to comeia, because the time is short, time for three minutes, we're not going to pass more rapidly, so we don't try to administra much time, and so we're trying to try to make more

the victory, because so we know that we'll leave more of doubt with the adults. After the Luta of the Grands Assumns, was the Toree that you just parisive of Marembuds to come up the PORN, apparently, it's a bit more situation,

well, I think, and by the fact I was being bea-chained too, I went to the rest of the end, I saw, I saw, see the lot, and I saw, and everyone commented with this, and then, a reporter, me asked,

like when you said, then, long in the next I came to the caraca, for this, and I really, but when I came in Brazil, I made a message to him and give me to give him, because that not was the intention of to try and to me to go to the way different,

for the fact that the situation was but not, I'm just all the true with him, a partner that we have there. So, as I said, I'd like, I'm just a little to him. This was a... A amisage...

Curious, because you were... If you were a lot, had so much, there were a lot, And now you're friends, then. So you think that can get to go to Ireland and train a box with him because he's, he's a time focused on the box, did he do with him? You've got to

go ahead and train with him there? Yeah, so, I think to learn much, even, the box, so there's great heraldes, good of box, so if I've got to go to Ireland, to train with the Kono, and train to the Lannes,

I'm, I'm always a lot, especially professional, so it's a world new, so I have to learn with the more, so the Kono, so the Kono, he's a good, He did a lot of my level. So he has a lot of things to pass to me.

How was your experience in the M.M.A? You've seen that in the last year you came to do with some trainings in the academia. How was this experience of new? A lot of different to the Bho? It was a very different, because it's a lot totally different. I have a base in the Judo

that for the MMEA was totally different, so it was much with my head. Had to adapt to a lot of things. It was very difficult, but it was an experience incredible, right. because it was in a moment that I couldn't trainer, so I, I,

I'd give this luxury, this privilege to be able to try another modality, but, unfortunately, the M.M.A. not for me, not, I don't,

not do, a shot in a car, a shoot in a pern, I think three, four days without to put it on the ground, it's very very, so I had admired a lot

the athletes of MMA, I've come here, A Mona Piener, Matel Nicolau. the people who've been and I just have to to thank you to support that they did,

to train, the dedication there, all the impenion, all so, so, like, they've done for me, was very incredible,

and I'm just I'm at every little, a, because, as I said, I always,

we always try to do but not always we're going to get with the different but in this different

victories. What was the most of the more apprenticeship that you had in this experience? Because you, po, master, mehurt, but we've trained with

many people of the Lut-Olympic, of Jiu-Gi-Soo, the basis of a different. What was the most of the practice?

I think, me helped quite, because I had always a help, a talk, for someone,

uh, even thinking in my return, no, no, because I did do the

different different modalities, so I always tried a little a little bit a little bit

a little Olympic, the the fight more the solo, that I had a little more difficulty, so I always tried, at the same time

that I was there was trying to try the MMI, I was trying to bring to my part here to the Judo. So I believe that, even

years and years training the Judo, this period that I passed training in MMA me helped me more, and also my spirit

with a matter of the you had used, you had a custom to see, you passed to see more MMA after you did your

relation with sports as a spectator? Oh, I don't have to say that during many years we've had an Anderson Silva, and say that nobody never accompanied a lot of the M.MA, so, of course, I would have been, I accompanied the day-a-day,

the lute of their own training, the dedication, I'm going to accompany, even more. There's Ronda Rouse and the Harrison, who were the judocas, who were in M.A. They've experimented this sport in the academy, you've made,

admire more than they they've got to do this transition to MMA, too. What you said? So, what they've got in the training there? So what they've got to do in the Jodoo? And they've got to get to come to an M.A. That's impressive.

Yeah, with, with, I'm saying. I just admired just to see the trailer-z-in-kir. We don't accompany the day-a-day, we don't accompany the routine. So, at the hour of the show. So, what they're passing, what they passed, to be there, to do a transition of this, even that, even that's two-d-tways,

of the champions Olympians Olympic, champion world, she could do the transition and the

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