MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Junior Cigano E Rodrigo Minotauro

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

O sétimo episódio do Trocação Franca está pesado. Ex-campeão do UFC, Junior Cigano critica a forma com que foi tratado pelo evento em sua reta final na organização, fala da experiência no prowrestling, e revela as lutas que gostaria de fazer no boxe, MMA e telecatch. Rodrigo Minotauro, ex-detentor dos cinturões do UFC e PRIDE e atual embaixador do UFC no Brasil, analisa o retorno de Paulo Borrachinha neste sábado e as disputas de título de Glover Teixeira e Charles do Bronx, além de atualizar sobre os planos de retorno da franquia ao Brasil pós-pandemia, a volta de Fedor Emelianenko no Bellator, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Former UFC heavyweight champion Junior dos Santos stops by to discuss his first experience inside a pro wrestling ring at AEW, being threatened to take fights in his final run in the UFC, and his hit-list in MMA, boxing, and pro wrestling. Then, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira — a former UFC and PRIDE heavyweight champion who now works as UFC ambassador in Brazil — breaks down the return of Paulo Costa against Marvin Vettori, Glover Teixeira and Charles Oliveira’s upcoming title bouts, Fedor Emelianenko’s match with Tim Johnson in Bellator, UFC’s plans to return to Brazil, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guilermis! My name fan of Luka Welcome to SETM. Welcome to podcast TrotacacconFranca

at your house about M.A. Nessera in this immense Poundernernerner in the Brazil and I'm

back in this quarterfair in a company of two lenders of the MMA, Rolgo Minotaro and Juno Cigano.

And we start going to direct to Florida in the United to for an interview special with a Cigano,

a bat-pap with a ex-companed of CEC on this external in the pro-Ressing that rolled in the last

the final of the plan of the MMA for the box and maybe, who know, more luts of pro wrestling in the future. From the other side

of the line, we have we have been a junior Cigano, ex-campion, the peso-pessed the first time passed for a experience new

in the career of his life but first, Cigano, a pleasure to have you in the podcast that went and all the thing

about the time. Hello, Geremm, all the peace here, thanks a God, pleasure

to be here with you. As well, as we said, as we've said, you've talked to the ringes

but of a form new in your career, in the ProRess that is a thing very great in the United

everyone we're here in Brazil, see the pro Ress or the telekete as well as a name we've grown

and accompanied this thing and came in a middle at distance but then All Elite Ress

that was the organization that you participated in the last years and you have the opportunity

to participate this end on Ind the company of the Dan Lambert of Roy Marisidal, the Pied of Vanzan,

how is it, how it was, this, first time how it's surged this convict to enter in this new world for you? The Dan Lambert,

the don't of America Top Team, he is very fan of pro wrestling since when I was a kid, and

always accompanied he had involved in the life, in his life of his life always,

for being fan, had been involved in some some situations with some of the athletes. And he us called, to participate, to assist,

in the reality, one of the editions of the, the I. A.W. I was, I, when I came there,

for we don't know much in Brazil, and I also not accompanied here, I'm surprised with how

how well, with how well organized, the event is so they're gigantic, so if not the size of the same way,

as well, these guys are very great, and the preparation of the athletes, it's really really very

difficult, very, and the the, the, the, the combats, are durisms

also, the car that was sangrando of the ring, I'd think, car,

this is, it's much I imagine I'd say to Dan and I said have to me

put me to put in this thing I want to participate in this thing I'm he said

he said he's a friend of him of the AW there and it's about this opportunity

to be participating I've the person who me helped my team that was

the Ethan and the Sky without that the King Moe also

the Academy have much experience with pro wrestling and could

me give good conceded, also. And it's interesting here in

Brazil is a way very very pejorative, there's a public who got a but the

people of the M.A. see a thing of marmelada, this thing is fake, cost you much to

diminish this market, but you said, there, the lotas that have a realism major,

the guys say really sangrants, say, say, and it not this mollezerz

yeah, that, go, it's we're going to be, we're all right, but the guys we're

really much long of this, it's much the preparation of the guys, my man, they compete in them,

they're going to competes, the guys are very well prepared and so, for you can do that thing,

the way they're doing, it's a much work, it's a dedication, I'm very I'm impressed

with the athletes, with the athleticism of their, with the courage of them, because there movements

there, my mom, that's for any no, and obviously that there's details, I think I'm going to be

adapting well, even for I'm a loter, I think I'm a lot of, the difference, is a little, you know, more in an abordage of how you do how you do this

attacks, of how you see, but in general, it's been very similar, so it's been so I'm adapted well, there have various examples

of the Athletes that came from the MMA, there, Lerickland, there were some who tried to do the way in Verso and it happened not rolling, the King Velasch,

came to finish when WWF, did a lot with Broke-Legner, but it was a couple that not went back, this is a way that you cogit for your future of, you, got, the, picked, the, picked,

the, you know, picked, the business, to, see this avenue as a possibility for the future? Ah, I, so, I'm, I don't know, I think, I think, no, I think,

there are great possibilities that I think I really felt very very well was a sensation that I don't see I didn't

have been in the way that I felt like I felt like I were there wanted me and they were to talk

to me to say to me in the end of my career to me to turn a campaign

it was the same same in the many times in the M.A. it was

just a base of pressure, without, all the all in a form very,

well, let's say even, even, we're even, but it's all the put so,

it was all a form a lot of very strange, and this this was, it was, like I said

I'm so, dearer, for being, the people were, and the people, they were, and

They'd want to see my participation, see the my actuation, how would be my performance and all, and this, all, it all ascended a fog gigantic, within me, that made me that made me very happy. So I'm always, I'm a lotator, I'm going to be still, I want to be able to be able to be able to be my intention is that it's in the box, but I'm here to me,

to me, me too, too, we're having to be good conversations, let me see what will be, to be, to consolidate, for the moment, are just conversations, let's say, more effective that we've ended, I don't have been

not accepting. I think this next step will be a pass for a past important in my career, so I

don't want to see to any form, I want to be sure that will be a important,

a decision very, a decision, well, and as well, it was a passionate, I'm,

I'm so, I'm so, and I'm always, maybe, even, having, doing this

a career. This line that you said to be really atropelated, very corrid in the MMA

we've we've ever in your retile of the FC. You've seen clear, that you

were pressured to get a lot of that you would be a time, and the

F.C. No, it's to be now, even the last after the

two last. If you if you if you not had the maybe

if you were going to get after going to get after of all that you

did you do FC especially, was a champion there, now, to see feel to look back

to look back and see, what they did you do you did a story so beautiful there's

going to get with this magua in the because they really have a thing

a thing, and they just, a man, and I'm, so,

I'm going to tell the the fact, the fact I'm a very resolved in the life,

I'm not, I'm, I consider a man very a man very a man very very they were a

very, let's say, we're not professional, the form of the form of all the world, I don't

be the first, not will be the last, but were the last two luts I pegged in in the same

of this time, or pecker, or is out of that it's over, it was in the same

of this and then obvious that I always, I always I always was a

a guy a good, They say, nice guy. I always I always I always to be a guy, I always

to be a good good for people because the people be nice with me. I learned in my life to be a,

to never expect of the others, something I don't for them do for them. So I always was like

so I always was a person legal, I'd try everyone well and always sort of being,

and, and, in a certain form, they were, they were kind of they,

or, or, they're this as a frakees like me putting to be down

to say or say that or some they're in a little the maximum that they did have

the athlete that I had had been that I had been the maximum of the

profit possible even more more the last the last a lot was a

thing but something but it's in the past I don't have nothing

to do I'm going to do with a mago. Because, as I said, like I said, it's there, and from it's been a lot of, I've done a therapy, I've done it,

and I've learned to, be a, be a person very resolved, to try, for a person well, be a person well,

and things that we can't resolve, then they're just are resolved. And, what is the case,

that is the case of what happened there, so we're going to this type of situation

that happened now with pro wrestling and it's actually me most it's it's just to me most

the young is a good and the con Junio Sigano is a still there's much performance to show and to show

and you see a different in the public also in the pro wrestling the people will assist

have the some some favorites have who they know they're saying they're

they're seeing that in the M.A. I think many the fan is a

little toxic he is a fan of the I'd like the adversary, he goes on the radio social, he's shinginging,

he's sacking, I pass a little this impression, I imagine that in the pro wrestling have been a experience different. The,

the team, the crowd the people, is extremely appellated for what they're seeing, the guys really

participate, and I'm looking to the side, many of them, because I'm, let's say, the bad boy,

it's the guy mal there, the Dan Lambert, I don't boss the guy, not boss of the people. So,

we'd be the bad the story and the and the Jericho with Jake and the other guys are the bad,

so there are when you look to look at the side, you look at the car of people, and there's

a guy that like, like, and there's if you're back in you know, if you get a

person, he's a great, and shing, and I think here in the States

United, I feel much dizzed, because here is so famous, so forth, I see a little of this, because, for example, here, if you shingar a person,

agredia one person, there's, no, no, it's just, no, it's just, it's, lanjad, will be, prison, will be , be processed,

but, shingar, I see that the people go there, to me, extravasar, shing, even, even the

athletes, if they're, they're getting bit a little they're they're going to

get a so it's a thing that I see a guy that's being a lot and the way the way

and you know you've got to do that this lot against the Jake Hagan that is the name

famous of ProWessan that came to the MMA also did four Luton, he he came

he came to wincing in the final, you know he's over the thing of

this because it something something different, there's a script, how is that you receive, you have a essay with the Kingg-Bow that you said, you said, how you

are your preparation for a lot? You know how you can't how you can't prepare for a per day, into the asterisk? There's a, there, a story, but there's a lot of, things that happens, if you're much, you're much, to be, like, a mess, the most,

it was a thing, it was been made, it, but for, it was a final, there, was a final there, but, so, again, that he no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nobody, nobody,

like, what is the most important. And it's, and it's, now, it's a re-and to, me, to go,

to a, place, there, he's an , you know, he's a, he's a, wrestler,

he'd, he, lot of times with Marko, that's, Steve Markle, that's a professor, here in academia,

phenomenal, he, he, he was, he, he's, that all the many,

but he always was the team A, so, the wrestling, here national. It's a guy, a guy, a good in what he does,

and now our rival, I'm going to get him. What's the thing? Yeah, there's this

also, he's a MMA also, along the pro-wrestling, so we can do a mix of the lot,

I think that would be interesting so, for the events too, this mix, It's true. He's he's on the contact with Belton,

that you came to have conversations with in the time that was the negotiation of everyone remembered a hand to the moment, trying to

get to find out of the time. The negotiations defriated after this, that not rolled the letter of the Fed,

or how is that the way that was free-o, it was, was more conversed about this fight against the other

after the other after the conversations. We got to have to have been to me atualize with the Anna

and the people who've been been worked with me but for in a while a bell atore it gave a spriadina

to give a call on Scott Cooker to see what what he'll who can maybe this

revalidate with Jake Riga is yeah something but something but

something I have the many the best the many have been

has been has been in the and it's a thing that

I'm I am I love I'm do Jiu-jitsu, chut, but the box

always was my car chef, and one thing that I would be quite happy is to me test to a

lot of box professional, something that I never had the opportunity. Before we had to talk about

the last about this about this lot of Pro Wrestling that I reparee that you

was with a short that you used in the time when I had the patrino

of Nike and he was the tennis of Nike also and a and a and post on Twitter

that's about this issue talking about about the shorts of Nike and the fact of the court of the

UFC with had you have you have been the patrocino of Nike you know you used

you was it was you was it was a was a something

was a something was a thing had been any the name or was a

homage the story that you constructions together trying trying to trying to

to get a time to a new to a marriage for a new to a marriage how it's

the process of decision to use the Nike in the not even there was a quote

with them with us not there not have much of this but I

think a good idea to you can to be to go to work

to build to something was a very special for it's

a moment that we could work together I was an athlete in Nike so it's

that she's clothes, some clothes, some cigano that they did you were something really valuable

for me is something really very very valuable for me so I I got to use

the short was a American Top Team is a blue that I love and blue

and black are the blue and black as you can see a blue and from that time. And the botter I

I used, because the question of being to be free, to be the liberty to use what you do you

do, and that you feel well, what is better, so, in the aspect,

what you created, not what the other are, I, you're, I'm putting as a, a parameter

for you use it. So it was more in this thing, a thing was a

thing that personalized, me. So I think would be a idea, it would be something,

I'm a lot of, I'm really very well, in a question of movementation and all. I said,

ah, it's a great, bro wrestling for I can be able do the movement

all, we'll use her. And then we said, I'm really very well, I put it

a lot of a hand in the hand, to characterize that the thing that the thing

that the thing is a business is And we know that you said said you said said the last thing you said the accord of the VCA

R-Bock, he ended up with individual, he didn't have the his style proper, like the Anderson-Silba had the shirt

of his shirt with the bandera of the Croasce the quad-colado and he ended up because it was the uniformized and all.

How much did this affect it in the business, in the end of the cost? Oh, for me, it was an back absurd. Because,

for example, the money, I was in Zavadoa, yeah, I was the money for I had the

money that I'd be in the money that normally I'd entirely in those my trainings

because I would be people to be around, banked all the people, like a

car, with a car, with a house, to help in the house and lavando a lot of so I'd

banked a structure good for the guys, all with the money of the money of

the money to live and to do the money came to all of the patrocines that was

the company the TNTN Drenk the Corinthians the Cairs these four patrocinius

were the most and mensalement doing chubba the money I was in the contract. I remember

that I had a time I'm I'm sure I'm going to have to the ligament the cruised

anterior of my pen and I'm quite a year I'm in I don't gain about because I

could be I just only can't when I would be but I was a that was

I'm that I'm and I still still was I'm doing things of

things of time not not much if was not the of the

but it was intregnable even so that the sponsorsionators were

with everything that I could give to give to them but it was something

to be something to that was for me in my case for example I think

there are other examples there were very under I just

think that you said that you thought was a back was a back

that was we put in a certain general, you know, because nobody is,

let's say, for more that there's some of the athletes that had been in a R. R.B.

Or the contract with a Monsk. They were the officer, too, and then it was a

symbolica, not was something was really good to, even, to, where I know,

even, to know, and we could not could not, not could, no,

not those, those, like, those, those, The patroness the patrocernator that was with you,

he would be at the apse, in the epis, in the moment of media, there's, the opposite, it was a lot, and everything involved was the lute. And the UFC,

in the semester, and in the LUT, we could use a mark and in the interviews also, and in their interviews, we didn't use a mark of their own, no, I was the plan

to do Box, obviously, has a passion, that's your art that you most got to do, do you do, but imagine that also the financial pese a structure of box as a sport is very different of the MMA, the money that roll,

the fatia that the athlete receive is a much more than the MMA, and not have these questions, these, these, these, these, these questions, yeah, of riboc, and now with a Venon, no, C, it's all much more live, you can't do you, do, do the basis of negotiation, you

can't the best of negotiation, you can't, the best accord to, you have to, to, under the to, to the thing, for what the

Dan O'Reatt, for what a promoter decides in the DVA, right? Exactly.

Yeah, the box, there's a, there's a, law, that's a law and regulation. Ali Act.

Inclusive he left the name of Mohand Ali, that loted for that this,

this law was approved and passed. I don't know what that imped I, I think,

I think there are there, uh, I think, uh, there there,

there, in the parliament American, trying to approve this same law to the proper

MMA, that's not a unparating the athletes, not there's a legal we don't have

legally, we have, so, we can, let's say, we'd give an an accerscy

to the MMA in see, you know, the box has this law and all the thing to

be made, it's made the way that it's done, the regularity that the that the law

demonstrate. So I think something is important, even for the protection of the athletes because today

we see there, conform it the way it's the way that they want. The guys

do the way that they're doing and don't, do, do, shoot a to go out

or go to the other side, or diminue bolsa or does this, does

I don't know, I think that it would be interesting if finally they could put them to this same way, the Ali Act, for the MMA,

and to put together put all in a form more clear and bring more protection to the athletes, more regularity in their contracts, in your,

in your, there someone, to be, to a, to be, a, to, a, to,

a, to, a, , to be, to, to defend the athletes. With certain,

there's a big actually in the Congress, they're trying trying to bring the Alex for Vennel

with the time for the time. Well, it's a time, there's a one of a little

a divorce here, it's a two houses, it's a big, it's a big very great, it's a

lot of the backers, so, it's here in the United, the lobby is,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, probably is a factor that that's a matter in this question.

But we're going to see, I think are there are lives there, I think, the same

because many athletes there are to get to get to the majority, not will be the same,

the only of all of all to be the top of the world, the UFC or,

or so that the event for. It's but I know, but I'm the focus,

like you said, even let's the door open but the focus is the box you said

that there some of the postings that you don't accept a time back back you said

you said there was a event that probably would have a event that would have been

that you did that you mentioned or there another that you did some other that

came to that was that was the Ty Woodley with with Jake Paul

also there had a conversation to do a lot there would would have

an option to look with Frank Mirr, something like a option not just

just just like not not enough not not certain but I'm

not not options but it was something not not was so I

think a I think a something something something was really to adder

to that the time of the time of the time of the time

of the time was kind of in the time. So I think it not was the moment

and we ended up not pegant but we we've got good conversations and we

still we're still having these conversations but for the point nothing

nothing I just I just I just I just I think not that I think

there's to be to all other other side to I'm with you

what what's what is what I don't don't because to

something something something or to think inventing something

I'm what is and it's but it's obvious, the only thing that's

the only thing is the only thing to get in front, for the end of not so.

Chigarra in some adversary of the world of the box or the only

the name that went to make sure there had, there,

there, I've, there, there were people there, the other the proper

box, the proper Shannon Briggs who It's just passed, but, so,

I'm going to have been done the day of the day of the year, but you're going to get back,

you know, then, then, some, but, like, I said, it's,

it was, my, did, me, did, and nothing really happened, but,

so, I'm very excited for everything that's happening, uh, the form

that the things are coming and, and I think in brevet, even, even because

I don't know, it's difficult, let's say, I'm saying, I think of a YouTuber

there's people are trying to them do you know, the guys, the guys, they have a

certain conscience, maybe, no say, but I would be that I would be

with the Jake Paul and Logan Paul on the one, 10 rounds, one,

one, one, could be getting back would be getting, and

I'd would be, and it would be I would really, not I'm trying, it's serious, this. This is, really, 10 rounds, one round, each one, the two reversing. I would have this

lute, this lute? But you think they'd do one round each one? Look, it's this is my business. If someone

came, someone was knock out, the other will have to assume until the final. There's a problem of him, you know? So I think it would happen, it would happen something, so. I did

to this proposal and all of the obviously, not and it's not but I think to work with a YouTuber

I'd like be more in this sense if I think it's more thing that's a lot of box because a lot of

this my, if I'm going to go to go to the world of the box I don't

want to go there and simply do make some whether it's like if it's such super lutas

that's happening I'm going there to I have 37 years but it's going to the reality of my career I'm going to

if I enter in this world I'm going to get to get to the crown whether

who is the champion like I'm Tyson now and the and the the CIC

there too that's that I'm yeah I'm I'm going in this line

I'm I'm my objective never was being being to make there

I'd, do, do you, but to be a reality, to contest the centuron. I think it would be something an champion of MMA, will be a champion of box, also, would be something

for the two worlds, for the world of the lute in-sie, I think would be incredible. I remember that during the Olympics of the Rio, 2016, I don't remember what was the mark that patronage of you, I think was a Under Armour,

who did a action in a prairie, you were doing a- Joshua, doing a sombring and a little bit of the champion, that he's

that he's going to be able to do you do you know, can't be able to playteer this that's a lot of that was always

in that way you'd be able these guys in the top of the world in the box right? Well,

well, it's good exactly I always I've trained with guys very very d'clock in question of

box you know with Professor Dora and all right so I have a ability

natural, I'm a peasant a rapid, to my category, you know, and I think would be a differential a lot of positive,

to fight against these guys. There's the Joshua, now, there's the Onter Weider, who just got to be able to try, too,

too, there's many others. I, I went to the event of the trailer here, the Dave Haye was

a lot what would also, it would be a, there's, there, the world,

the The world of the box is full of great options and it's the beauty of this world because it's, not it's a

organization, not a promotion, you have a contract with your manager, but the promoters, you don't have contract with the promoter. As the case of the

F.C., he does what what's your career, with you, with your image, with what for, you know?

Here, no, in the box, in the box, in the box, every lot, not so the question of

values that you will gain, but as the terms of, of the security, the terms of the security, of all, of all,

you conversed, and a lot, a lot, not a contract of eight luts, I say, I'll do you do with you. That's what I'm going to

the UFC and these events, you know? This is, it's, it's, trying the great possibility of negotiation and other,

the guys do what they want. The FC, for example, you, you sign, they have the security to you maintain you're in front of

eight luts. Now you're in the first, if they wanted to go and you're going and they're no security

no box not so in the box you negotiate a lot at a lot, contract, contract and values,

all the other, for example, in the UFC you did like, like, as my case, I did seven

lutas before the centuron, I was I was getting the most that was a more

that was that was that a person would in the box, he would have the same thing that

that would have been that's there's a back on the contract, the lot of

the the middle the even the end of the end up an excellent

a excellent a great a because it's it's made for this

it's for to be for for contract to contract but

let's let I'm I'd I'd I'd I'd would be

would be in the world box. I, as I say, but I love, I also, the MMA, and me

I'm a passionate for the pro wrestling. I'm going to get back. I'm going, I'm going, but in the fact, it's all

a question of a lot. It's an opportunity, I'm a opportunity, and, for example, this you said,

it's a time that I had a, no, I don't not, not would be to be, to the ring

again, the AIW, for me, was incredible. The sensation marvellous The people are the same

my name and going to live, and competing and it's that's what me move and so,

and I came to be apache a little, thinking, ah, what, what moment that I'm living

is, it's, that I'm not to the thing, because it was what they were what

were, me stimulated to do it, and I didn't, more to be a lot- more,

I was, I, I became me question about this. But as I when I went to train up academia, I said,

my life, this is my life, I love to do this here. I love to say in the man with these guys. There's a lot.

And I'm just only have 37 years, so let's see. When you said that you're to think, it's who, the UFC,

what you said? The UFC, and, for consequence, let's say, the world that involves the sport,

reporters, the, your class there, all the the levada, let me say,

of the things, was being in this sense. You know, will be to be a little bit of,

you're talking at all the moment this type of of question, of situation, me like empurranging even the car

and, you know, all the world the fans, in general, you know, that was, I don't,

I don't, I don't I don't think Lending a commentar negative or things of this

type, but it comes up getting the quantity it's so great that's

getting in you one thing or another. And this me made reflectia a lot

it's not it can't that today, I did this post

that was more in this sense that in the other that

the other don't have to define how where you can where you

don't it It's your, your destiny is your own, and it's your hands, and it was since from the initial. I always

was superestimated, never, never, let me give them credit, maybe for your guy legal, you know, for sure that

that's always rinding, and the other people, the people, and the people, and I'm, because,

but they're, but they're, and, and, I'm, I'm always I'm sort of, super,

super, not, not, not not levied too a serious but

I'm subestimated but I went to be a car of a lot of people in all the and I

came where I came and this way I continue and this form I continue in the role of the therapy for you lead with all this

that you had to live a I'm a It's a important, I think the question of you

can't talk, and expose your fraquises to someone, a person, you know, but in some way,

you have to confi to expose the problems, it's important. I even did a parada now with

the, with the time, I even talked with a my therapist, excellent. I even,

I talked with her, and I said, look, it's happening this. I was in a

moment that I had been I'm exposed to her I'm the most me affect

I'm that I'm not even I'm in a lot of some time some time. And I

saw it was that we were kind of running in circle in on that

and as times I'm a man I'm a man with one of

one of the most I do I'm So, that before of my

Lutas, until now I remember of this, because it happened to now the pro wrestling.

I started to comey to comeying, I was coming on the other from the vestiaire and something,

I'm thinking. I like to think about thinking of me even, imagining the situations and

putting the reactions on the things on that I'm so I love to be soz

so- so I commented this with her she said that would be

valid important I was a sense if I would be beneficial to me, that I would be beneficial to me, that I'd have been, it's being, it's been good, you know, I, sometimes have a moment

that for you maybe, to look at the response, dentro of you, not someone who will tell you, the way that you're going to get to be the point, you know,

but sometimes it's important, you need to that you need to, you know, let's say, to, let's say, to, discover, or, discoverer the responses to

the questions that you are seeing so I have lived I've been lived in moments so incredible

I think have been much more more mature in this world that I'm living, this world

this world in the world and you said you're in a book of a feat historical

that's a first champion of the NBA being the team

the the task not so it's a fire that's a

top of the world now for some, he's already has

been the major piece of the time. You concord with this? You think he not, that he

not came to that he is phenomenal. phenomenal. He is a lotator extremely difficult,

extremely effective, everything he does, all the time of his, by the ability, for more that he's a

guy great, that form, he's movement it and continue maintaining that movementation

the time whole. It's a impressionate. It's impressive. It's continuing constant in the

golfs, I think that is one of the forts of his force of him. For example, the Onthe Weider

that he ended up looking, I think the Deontewider has more, has more power of nocouts,

even the he's a guy, that he talks and the people, the people, the people

can't, and then he said, he needs he needs to be perfect in three seconds and the Tyson Quirre would have

to be perfect 12 rounds and I don't know if he was perfect but he was effective sufficient to gain a

lot of the one and white has a power absurd but let's say the Tyson Firm was intelligent

super using putting the time all using a question of the clinch to end up

the person to the athlete and taking the little of a little of the power

of the power of the power So, so Tysonville, and, he's very effective, he's intelligent,

he's a lot of intelligence. I think it's very difficult to get this guy from that he. And other

other guy that came from the M. to Box also, the other Alain-Nissue of Rueleys,

Geree, he gave the Vitoleafel, who infratory field, he was a little bit criticated for

some of those thought that not were not ever had been probably, because the guy, Holyfield,

apparently, physically, he not was the the same thing that we remember the past was a very time part of the time

about it. What did you think you think you thought of the other than you thought that not it was

the form that was? I think for the Victor even was a opportunity was a great he

not would not with Oscar Delahoy he could do not with with the

Hollywood something something maybe impensable in these days he could

be one of the most of the main of the things that it was a excellent opportunity for him maybe he

he had exaggerated a bit in a in the the want to to have to get to have a little

more, but it's obvious the lotator he is a lot of he can't be able

with the sort and he he comes he does I think the best the he did

the world the the field there for what the reason for and one

one way, and one you're in the ring there's a lot, you're in to be the

consequences of a lot of what happened with the only field unfortunately I've I felt

as much a privilege for us that we were we we're we're we're

we're for the Vito that was that was a lot of it's great

of his great enough in the career of him and we can see,

we know really, we've seen really a little little. I think maybe I thought he

had been a little more more the moment. He partied for the decision. It's like

a character of it, we know, but I think it was nothing disproportional, exaggerated,

because one way that the athlete has the other, the job to be there

to be there to be so to let me choose someone that you would

be to to confront. I guess this centuron. You know, I'll say would say to say to

say he's the champion of the world. Yeah. Someone that would have a dream of

doing to do you have a unma, box, pro wrestling, anything, for your future,

where we would be seeing the next step? Well, I, it's like, I,

you know, I never I never I've, I never I've, I've been to choose,

I'm, and I'm going, going to , I'll choose someone specific,

they're many the name the proper Joshua, the Onter the Tyson Feewey,

Yucs. This I'm talking about those champions, the various other guys who have

in the field, let me say to let the taut balled by the centurion. Or see,

there's opportunities incredible now to happen to happen, but one, perhaps

for, I don't here to be, like I said, like, I'm a thing

that me would be a lot in- checkada was to go to Joshua

or the Othewider yeah, yeah, in the arrival in the box. In the M.MA, it's also, not there's a

name specific, like, something that would be made very happy, to be able to the last battle of him,

opa, in the last, in the last battle, in the last but not happened,

now, the important is to see in front. A thing that me motivates, that me

made I'm a and would be interesting and even motivational for me, it would be

some of the revanches, some of the ones, of the last ones, the last these,

the last ones, especially these. I think would be revanches that would be, would be,

me, would be satisfiedian and in, and in the pro wrestling, I would

do a lot with the problem Velasquez. the fourth fight to happen in the pro wrestling

we'll see but there there's the Roman Rags, who is the champion of WWI

he ended talking about some bese there too about the he W that not there was

sufficient to be to be a post in relation to this I think I

I'm extremely deceptionate I know a great champion a guy that has

been very that has been but I'm very deceptionated, the guy's being an arrogant

with an event so great and so good as a W, he said any one any of the AIW

he would shoot out of a club with the friends or something I said I would love

I would I would I'd would rather to find this car in any could be to puter

the hand he put up the work he has done the and do the chance to him

to be to go to go to far to who would have you joggeria. Oh, Jogna,

rapa. So this would I think a lot of interesting for pro wrestling. So, there's a variety and let me

let's see what come. There's much on the table for you're going to get to see the next

pass. I'd like to thank a rezenia a sort of very discontraired and, parbens

there for the first not, not came a victory, but it was a show,

we've a bitseal. We've beenceal. You have been in a business, I'm taking the most. I'm taking the middle. I'm taking the

my messada there. But the lute, we've beenceal. Three-contra-three, the victory was our was our just, it's just.

We're just. We're just to do you, the box, or in M.A. In the Kvye, for a year, success, that continue

brilliando, and, and, and, I'm better even, with the F.C. with the a bolso more

fulls, more free, with a bit of the more than you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm doing this space there for we can't talk. A brazen and we're going to do. DeVoteau after this talk with the second

we go to San Paulo. Now to talk with Rodrigo Militon the Citron of the Pescars of the FEC and the current ambassador in the Brazil

and unanim when the question is who are the lot of the world more people who have the future.

for a year, my friend, my good, we're here, we're doing the work of WAC, Brazil,

all right, happy for the victory the final of the year of the past, we're here to talk to

talk to talk about you talk about about the last year, I'm talking about the best performance of

a Brazilian the victory the victory most impressive, he was the Brunner that,

he said the first the first the first we've said a lot of a various years.

You're a guy who got a very much of the work of the first of the first of the

first of the first of the first time. The first his first the power of the power of

the Rode to Andrew Sancher. What are you think of the career

of his the work he's doing in the octogono? The blindado I'm I'm happy

from the contract of him when the match-Make McMeners and asked a opinion about blinded,

in the time I said really, it's a guy who would have to look for you, because,

for the result, numbers, we've seen that's a man, very sympathetic, many people, he's

a guy that's super well, but most the result, and he deliver. It's like the proper

Maggi, I'm, I'm, the person to follow but there in, the Bruno

not a man, a man, a character, a a guy reverent, but there in the octagon he has very

a good this is beautiful to see, he made Chimelenna with great and there a russie

made an excellent victory against the Tourman that also almost of a virada so, he

he he he he he starts in the rhythm and go

the last the last the last he took a lot he took a guy

durisim with wrestling is excellent, dominion the he dominated the lot of the ground, and the hour

at one, he, he thought he didn't exist, if you press attention, the hour the guy,

he'll work down, he does a cuttoveled, he does a blow, he's a guy, practically

from the back to show up to a personality, and actually, he's a guy, we'll see, he's a country,

he was a russia, now with this start, 2-0 in the FC, you see in it

the potential to be a champion in this division that is a division that's a reason

have a relation to the Brazil with the Anderson Silva, there's trying

in this time to come to come to the seat around of the meds,

you see in him the future to bring this country to bring a country

has a different he's he he he he he's

a he he's kind of the dida but aggressive

but he also he also of agarada, there a guard good, he's a

guard a good, he's going to be he's in the category in the category in brev, because the

Sanchez is a guy that was very very well positioned, he's a organization, and we

can't think in this, the blindado, he has a person who has a character that has a great,

he's a kind of a lot of potential in him, to be able to beck to beck,

and maybe, and can say, to get the centuron, you know, you're going to

know, he made a lot of he made sure of this one of the way of the way he sort of the solos,

I mean me remember watching him remember the shogun also yeah, what is the whole thing,

you know, you're a little bit of the guy, the guy's bad, you know, it's very it's aggressive,

the way that he part to the brimbole, that he does he does it batting by the

bottom, to the He has a gas, really, out of series. And that the style, you know, that the proper Dida has, that came, that's the chute-pox,

uh, of attacks rapid, the manner that he attacks, the want to, the aggressivity, that he attacks, move well, the head,

it's, he's, receive well, the gropes, and really, it's to compare him with the names,

because this guy, he, he is a guy differentiated. He's really really, he's really very very

in the division, and there Paulo-Buchin, who with Marve and Vettoria, the first of his life, he fronted, he wasrael Adesani

and Abadab by the centuron of the meds. What's the expectative for this lute? The Borrachina, he, po, came a sensation fantastic in the

FC, he ended the form that he's been to the time that for Adesania, and now, to go to the octagon

on the Votory. What we can't expect to be the Borrachin? You are always in contact to everyone,

you, the ambassador, the officer of the figure for the person to the person, the figure, what you have

seen, what you have seen I'll look at the Vettoria. I see the Borrachia is very focused. It's very

focused. We're very contact, there's a focus, is using a little cellar,

is in that the rhythm of focus total. I see a borrashia he, he boxier

better than Vettoria. The Vettore solta, bon of golf, legger, there's a

risk, there a question, has a really, it's a kind, he,

he, he jog, he jogs in all the areas, but I don't see

he put a bohachin to gorecha more more abridored than he in the rest

and more more contendent in the part of box the bohachin he takes the head to socar

the Votra a bit more a bit more a bit more so we know, the got more of the

bad thing he's a problem, he does gop of the he's got a good

box very good, the Adjano Baddola the car Olympic he's been to

Pernpida He knows very the way the way to learn a lot. And I think he's doing

an excellent lecture for this perspective is good, I'm sure the victory of Boachin, with the

not because I'm a Brazilian, you know, we're always people, we're saying,

we're saying, he's going to be all the people, but I'm there's a expectation of

this look for this look for the difference technical in the part of box. The Vettoria

is a a guy dangerous, a lot of a good gas, he has rhythm,

but not in wrestling as well in the trocaation to put up to the soil and the proxion then the level

than the little bit more a little got a little bit a guy more quiet, not was

a lot of he's always very that he's the auto-promotion that turned he turned him a great

astro that he but after the lot with the last time now that he finished the lot

with the victory, he got more introspective, no, did, if I'm my matter,

no, no, no, any of a fight week, it's, it's, it's,

it's, he's, put, so, a good, a good, a guy that's a

guy who's a guy who just can't know, to say, the person, or can't

make a question, poor, we, we don't know, he's, he don't know,

he don't know exactly what we're going to be able to in the head of his how he will react

after the first the first the career of his career how are mentally how you

how you can't how you have a decision of his decision of course. So,

we're thinking I think, I think with a press will receive this, not the

guy, he's, he's, he's, he's not he's focused in the career

he, he's he's a good he's very interesting, he's a a guy differentiated

in the media digital, we see this, a guy of a million of followers in the other media, in all the

other media. There's a lot of the main, the thing, the thing is the thing of his thing.

So, he be sure, it's a good, I go to the guy more focused, I like to

see the manner that he is being in a moment in the time, to save a lot serious,

a lot that could put to it the dispute is the Cinturon, I can't say, the Vettori,

he, they're in between the 5 in the category. Who gets a lot between the 3, 2, in a sudden, he's just there is a loop of cituron, so I see this

as a good signal. You can't that the victory, the form that the Borrachin got all the Jut in the FC with a be able

knockout, like, he'll guarantee to him, independent of his Cerey or not as a champion, or maybe

have to get to get to get more a victory, do more a way to get more a lot of going to be going to happen

when it's going to be going to happen for Borrachina and you're going to maybe get a little bit more a lot of what you're

what you're thinking about the next the next imagine who does the who makes the who's

the head the Pat Mages I imagine no Boasia a lot like this

because we've seen that the The proper Vettori, he was the last defiant, the centurion. So, we did it as a thermometer, when the guy did the challenge,

not was knockouted by the Sanya, he did a mutatura with Adesan, he did. The Adesan was better than he, he was, but the Italian,

he had a position to the banana. Costs, with different finalizations, diverses, is a guy super regular in the organization, and I see this,

I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm a great chance of him, to encabeasar, a bit of a dispute of

a centuron or a much part of it. It's a very important, to have a ballachina going to retom

this way of the course, and I'm like a quecement to the moment the second the year, the Glover Techeer and

is a boudoir, that's all anxious to see, the global price, impossible, you don't go to get to a carable for a lot of my opinion,

enter with much chance to bring the center in Brazil, because the Blahovitz, it's, clear, it's a true, it's a power of knockout, much good, but the Glover is a guy who knows boxing, has a game, and has a job of show,

so he can complicate many things to BrahmaVit. You know, you, who has all the experience of your career, to have been fronted athletes of all the types of different, how is you analyze this casement of style? You think it's a lot of

a year? Can't be a job in Abu Dhabi? Yeah, it's a man that I'm a expectation of the Brazil entire has a world, the Brazil

who knows the globe and the world, it's a great personality super active

between the athletes of the other people that all the

people are all the people are a person that all inspired a lot of people

super simple humble the the way he he says many

the people even many than didn't than don't so

sympathes quite he is a The waytown of his to be, that's the people,

there's a person, the guy, and much tech, very mercedo, he had the cycle of

his career where he came to a dispute of the ring, he went with a

gunjones, he was very close of the signtouron batting at back, and he

he, he perde two luts consecutively and he did the cycle of

his own a phase very good, getting of great names finalizing

various the players. And then he moose the globe is more complete, the globe

before he was a question. And now a global that's the other a trocal

a trocation, a man, he's a lot of, he's always reinventing

the globe was a little he was, he was training with a strike

of the actuality that is Alex Poe-Tam Pereer he he knows

very well he's very well he can super prepared for this luther, both in the other way,

I think he is very good to try to myam Blancovite, that is perigoso for the velocity, not by the technology, I

think the Glove more than he, but the Blahubit is very very very very much

in the part of the lot of the world is much better than he I'm a finalization

for Katagatami this expectative. It would be marvellous you mentioned the group of WhatsApp

that you I always listen to I always listen to talk about, there's a group of WhatsApp here I'm all the whole of the

day-a-day in this group of WhatsApp. What do you do you do this group of WhatsApp? Everyone

everyone here, the audience, everyone has the group of WhatsApp with the people, but we know that

the lot of MMA, not everyone is a friend, every single a lot of a day-a- how is the day-a-d-

how-the-day-a-d-tretters of the other than the other than it's different is a different, so, but to put a group of WhatsApp

it's I'm I'm a question if you're a like if you could have been to be a person in a

Brazilian so I'm I'm going to be a really of the same in the world,

the team of Brazil now we've a slogan invasion Brazilian in the UFC in

mid of October so we we're trying to pass this union so so as sometimes

the Bruno was all the everyone was all all a player will be

a the Marladeon, even, he, he went on the FECL, he was one of the

guys more active in the group that's always saying, and it's a good, and a

guy that's a man who is super active, the Glover Techeer. So, as well, I'm

I'm trying to promote when there a lot of someone, oh, the guy, I'm a

person, the same, I'm a way, I can't be together, I can't be 40%

of the group have seven million followers, 40% of the group. We did a calculation. We did a lot to make the ideas to make the media digital as people , you know,

teaching what every media digital does. So we try to make a little bit of a little bit of nutrition, of training, a lot of the idea that's very nice. It's a

very nice, it's a lot, the elite of the NBA Worldial. The we can, I can't say, almost 30% of the FEC entire, 20-tant

percent of the players of the UFC is a great American, the half of the middle of the middle of

the United we are with today now in day 93, 94 the U.S. in the

chance to increase to increase we have three voters not in the contender

yeah, Caie Boralio but two other other other than we're we're having

we're trying to battle the same now the group because to be motivating

I'm a pesadish this group these group I imagine that the great majority is there's there's a

there's people that there's people who don't see there's got there but there there's a

there can't I can't say it's a rarely happens something

this car rarely happened yeah there's there there's there

there's like for being the same person to to work to

get to a person I'm don't to be to be torsying to to that person,

one, not going to talk about that person there's in the world super convenient.

And the climate between the people are much more respect than other sports you know,

you know, the other has that that's a mental and that's very legal. Maneer,

mannourer, and so we have to get to the lot of the margated

and the Charles of Brons that is a guy, who is a man, he's

doing a I always remember when I see Charles as a champion, I remember with a conversation we have after the FC San Paulo I think the main event was the Jackaray and Blahovitz

that Charles did the coal main event that he woncees and we talked inspiring the collective of the impenza to start I was saying I think the Charles

should have been the main event of this card because oh Charles is turning a guy a gigante in the team in the FC

and he's with various victories consecutively the Jackar and Blahovits were a guy were the guys more very,

the barrow-vist not he's not a old old a little a little a little

time after the title to the name how it how it's how are

for you from you from the first the career in the FC now

to have the centuron of the Leves and go a lot

difficult and a much great against against Pory in December

so so the Charles he always had been

a champion but I think Charles we saw after that event

of San Paul the Charles moved the posture of his, he moved the manner of the discourse of his

the way to be the way to see, the way, we saw, the other Charles, the confidence of Charles

and I think that the UFC here of San Paulo was a modern organization saw,

see the the whole saw, not just with results, because there people who have

people who have result, the result, but the Charles took the world, he did

the market personal better, better in all the questions, and it's a good,

the position to get a title. So, a evolution very great in the way of Charles,

and I think the decision to move to a category, he's accepted,

he's accepted, he's he ended, he was so high to the category and it

became more more than the other the category of the

Chalalto did a sacrifice a to be maintained. There a little revet

when he took to category, we don't got the first but he implacled the sequence of

victories and he's a guy that we will see years, he's a champion a year and

he's never seen in Pesue in Pesue but the great part of the start of this sequence, he

went to M.A. He demoral had to make the Pesupean and to be able to the category of the result

finally, no. It's it. I think this also the preparation

physical, you know, he came to a place to go to a football,

he came to play in the football here, with Diego Lima, he,

he, he gave an attention physical of his , he's post,

the day I trained with Charles no time, he's not much time, well, he has been

imagine, Charlie, batting and mea-mea and he's forcing, he would not be a force

but the I think the lot of he, he, he, now have the power

of the nocout, that he had been and even the power of grispring but he

really very in the part of wrestling to cop to when he took into category.

It's the before we want to you to ask you to ask you to

the fcc of the defense of the division, we're We're seeing the public going to devalding

even at the limited, for example, the games of football that are rolling for here. But we're in a conversation

to the return to the UFC, to do the business here in Brazil, it's starting to have a

discussion to 2022, what the who the UFC have, who the team have the Fite

Knights, all in Vegas in Vegas, in the Apex, but the paperviews are running in the

United, starting to have been to be going to start to start to to be a buddard more to other

other places, too. So, so, we're in the Brazil, in a little time, we'll be talking in the United,

has been able to the events in Europe, in some places, but it's a question very of frontears, we've had

that problem, you remember in football, that a player, a, a player, not was,

the Brazil Argentina, Brazil, Argentina, So it's a question of planning, I think more to the way, will happen to happen.

Fact, the Brazilian, I don't know, I like show, I go to events, but these questions when, when I'm going to see the fronteering,

I think the Brazil, I think, the challenge is my friend, because, I'll tell you, we're taking

the water of the peters with the voters, Brazilian. Sixteen-eight of the voters who look at in-cast,

statistically, gain the Brazil is, but you know what this, The Brazil is getting more than the athletes

of the other, and the other than out of the country. So the Brazilian, really, is a superation this year, post-pandemia,

incredible, because generally, you're going to do you know, 60% of the football, volleyball, volleyball,

of all the sports, is almost 70%. So, the Brazilian, he's coming from here, mutating out of the

country, difficulty of the language, difficulty of alimentation, and the trainingment, but I think the UFC,

the UFC International with the UFC International with the officer is doing structure for these girls

they're doing there's there's a diet in the day of the second of the

the girl has to get to get to six kilos minus of 10% of the

mass of the corporal that they have a local I remember I was

I was I was I'm I'm to find 24 hours of the academyism

to put to be 10 hour of to train my lot, you know, I'm training in the hour of the lot of the last, generally the carge the principal,

like to be 11 o'clock at night, and then I'd be in the night, as well, chuvending, you go to get a academy, diet, nobody knows where you'll find a friend, one thing.

So, today, there's a structure, the guy, is going to there, and is going to in-cash-a-plettlement. I think that the condition

really was very but when the events were to come down to come to, imagine the gring will get to hear, listen,

that he will to die. To enchant with with the UFC here in Brazil. It's, it's fault, it's fault.

And this Saturday, I'll talk a little bit about a little bit more about you have to be sure. It's not

the vote of the end of the person, but how is you, a guy who obviously has a line with you, there's a photo on the page

of your story, how is, what you do you expect of this this is the future? You think,

it's a event, you're not, the event, this is the of this Lota of him.

He is a great idol, the great idol, was, for me, in my opinion, the most

the worst in 20 years, a guy that's a very strategic, very velox. A we

know that has been an age, he is he, he's been having probably 45

years of age, there's an age for the result in a better performance

in a level competitive, But I'm always the tourcid is for him, when he got him when he got him to tell son, I was even seeing another day. I never torsied

so much I'm trying to talk to the person. Quanta love he and I, of course, I'd have to be more to San Suva, but I can't say, I'm talking, I'm a guy that I've tossed a lot, a great idol. For me, it was an adversary

but an idol, I think everyone, who could see the Fed on the Pride, has that sentiment of the grand champion. Respect, Mass.

Assisting the Fedor in action in Russia, in great events, did the concierge to come? Or this port you just

has been before? Yeah, it's a prevee I've been I think so, I'm an

athlete, the first centuron in 2000, 2001, I was with the cadences of the pride,

I was in 2003, I won't the cintana in 2006 or 2004 was finalist in the title the title of the world. So I always went to the three

first ones in the category was in the middle we're in altissim the level I went to the UFC I got the title of the UFC in 2010

I came to the 5th of rank then before 7thum of the ranking 8th of rank I think I'm

I'm a prefectionist you have to be a present in your best of your best in 2011 I did an cirul in my quadrille where raspea the head of femur

so it was dued with Angela Cortes we did all that that treatment and I my last last lute in 2015 I'd

do that subida in 19 minutes subbed the crisis I started to I started to 23 so you see a

a point in a thing you don't take a lot more this part physical so I think I prefer

to show my my best than not just not just not just questions

more physical I prefer I prefer to not rather than I'm not very not even

not been not after you did you I think represented the first of Brazil

the nocout the question that had, the question physical, that you said, no, I,

I still did a, I even did a lot of, which I've been the last, but I'm going to be with Frank Bia,

very well, Veloys, I've got a that way, and I'm, I've got to the last three

presentations, I was just was very felt in my quadrille and I couldn't do,

do my better, so, I, so, I, I, to

kemire, I was there's some of the guys and the really, my

best was in 2011, until 2013, in these three last last these three last little watching the event,

it was the moment most emotional, in these almost 14 years that I took up in the sport,

was to see, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, because we , we're, accompanied in the backstores, you know,

I saw, how debilitar physically you were , so it was a little unesperated, and I knew that you were

able to but it, but it was in fact, it was in more than ever to win a phone to go,

a sense of great, too, was a guy was a coming, was the new upcoming

of the UFC and I was very debilated, I remember the collective of the there,

in Copacabana Palace, I was to talk about I'm going to how am I going to go sub- on the palanque there

there to there's so I'm the muleta it was more difficult to see that up to the

public of than to the proper lot, so that's a level of the pain,

of suffering there. It was a challenge really great but I can't

say the press the press the President, and did all that event

and I think the official I love in Brazil also because of the press. I'd like I'd like you thank you. I'd like this edition is for here from the podcast. I'm very much on me notar

for the participation. It's a honor to a lends from us here to talk a little a little bit of Lotham, my friend. Thank you. Thank you.

Paraparvees for the job that you do you have done your podcast and you're doing with the sport Brazilian. The Brazil is it. And I'd like that. And I'd like to be,

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