MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Kron Gracie voltou! (+ Moraes, Bate-Estaca, Satoshi e Jandiroba)

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

O Trocação Franca dessa semana recebe pela primeira vez a lenda Kron Gracie, que retorna ao octógono após quase quatro anos sábado, em Nova Jérsei. O filho de Rickson abre o jogo sobre o tempo parado, o que mudou em sua vida e o que gostaria de ver diferente no UFC, as lições contra Cub Swanson, o duelo com Charles Jourdain, e muito mais. O podcast traz, ainda, entrevistas com Marlon Moraes, Jessica Bate-Estaca, Roberto Satoshi e Virna Jandiroba. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca welcomes for the first time the legend Kron Gracie, who returns to the octagon after nearly four years this weekend in New Jersey. The son of Rickson opens up on his time away, what changed in his life and what changes he’d like to see in the UFC, lessons learned against Cub Swanson, his upcoming clash with Charles Jourdain, and more. The podcast also features interviews with Marlon Moraes, Jessica Andrade, Roberto Satoshi, and Virna Jandiroba. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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a sua a house sub-MIA in this immense power. I'm Chris, correspondent of American

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kiss in the heart for the friends, companions of the family, and especially to your spouse and a filin' Ravi, of just

10 months, who parted the heart of the end of the family of the MMA, a guy super-queried for all.

And now, we'll start the podcast Troca some franca this quarter the first of the company of Robert Satoche

and Jessica Bastak and Vin'Jiroba who luton a Saturday for RISING and PIL and Malone

Morais, that analysis and the dispute of the cunturang of the FC also on the SOTOMAY, also in Harry Serrude. But the program comes even with an interview exclusively with Cromgrace,

one of the looters most low-profile of MMA Worldial and finally the octogono on Saturday against Charles Jordan on UFC 288. All right, baby, you've just passed three years since your last one

for what you decided to what you decided to get to go ahead and say, be able to finish a lot to me and will go back to octagon. In fact, I was to look

well before the pandemic. Then they've finished all here in the States I had to give me to do my life to go to

my life to my rhythm normal so now I'm to come to back. The total preparation was there in

Montana? I saw that you opened a academy there and you took training for there

or in the time to start this camp here you you brought to California how was

this preparation to Lutton my my preparation was all in Montana so So, it happened

All right. You you brought Spas to prepare to the or you trained with

who you were doing you're doing those two I trained with the people that were with me

with me and I brought the people that I had to me help me

and what you think you do Shal Lundan as what a other

he does what he does how you how you have this this

confronts this I think he he is a trocadour in par.

He was the best of the UFC was me offering. I don't

want to get a long, I'd get a little and start this

life of the life of the new, independent of the time

past, or the what I planing to do my life in my life in

these years of the I'm need to get a little

to start all the thing, put a The idea now is maintain the frequency major, I'm going to take, maybe more one of the year and maintain the next

same thing, same thing? That's my idea. And, before the last one with the last month, you appeared quite accommodated with a result, with the decision of the juiz and all, you, you moved the form as you see the MMA,

the form of the sport is judged today, to think, po, you said, you said, you saw the lot, with sentiments that you've beenceal, so, the guys are being in a form different, but what, that

that was the cron Yeah, all the little a little more than when you

don't gain the result that you want to have to evaluate what

what happened I always I'm in my mind to to

to fight to die, so time never was a

thing was a thing I think and in in

in in Jijitsu or no MMA or in box

I always I and various rounds and various hours of training. Because in my

my heart and in my heart, I always thought to look to the most and I always thought to

get to the other guy to desisting. But, but unfortunately, it's three rounds,

and the time will be to do you have to do some adjustments for this. The FC

recently did for some the Lutut during Diyas, did Belal Mohamed at the

night, luts of five rounds that are a centuron and not are the lot of different roles. You came to this possibility

to ask for them to put to a lot of five rounds to have more not be for ever not be a

little bit more but you will be two rounds to be more to work to work to work.

I think I need to learn this this lute to make some different

and want to give what I want, but what I think one thing that the

MMA is need and in instead of this round, have a round of

15 minutes and have one round of 25 minutes. I think that's a thing that

would would be a result and would have much more finalization

or in or in the ground, because when you have a round and you

have a your corner and you have a time to think

and the your coach you give a water. This can't do

the other it's not a lot of a lot of the other and it's a lot of a lot of

time, but I think it would be there would be a round. It has been a little bit of

25 minutes, and I think that would be a sport for the person who is a

better a better a better will get more more chance to learn and gain

in these regres. You think would you would be viable? You think but I think it would

be possible the FC to adopt this today, or the vision in the world like, it would be more

complicated, even with the commission, these things, I don't know, I think the sport, with the lotters,

I think the people, not a thing about a thing, but I think the sport, today is

more intelligent, the fans are very more intelligent, the fans apprecies more the chown, there

like Robert Whitaker and the El Romero, that the two l. The two luts were very, very competitive. And if it was a round of 25 minutes, I think could have

other opportunities in the lute. So I think when the fan are being, when the intelligence of the fan can, I

think it could adjust the regas. You said that's trying retom the rhythm there, you know, to do more luts and

you had taken two years between the Rising UFC, to start a FC, and now more of three

years into one and another. What was the good of having to pass this time, the two intervals

longs, between a lot and other focusing in other things? I'm always trying to my life

always was competitive, since the child so, that the last time that I

took between the Risen and UFC was more doing the contract and deciding to

to look at the UFC that's it's not this way it's a other reasons.

So, not was always a thing I chose to to get a time but it's

the life that happens when you are living competitively since nine years and in

my situation in my life personally I had to do what I have to do

what you do you do you do you know when you this time when you're this time you

not time you know jiu-s do you do You don't have that intensity in the preparation, right?

This this time I could learn to live in a mountain. And I'm with a dogro

now and it's time to learn to live in a mountain in the free. What was

the challenge? The difference of California? Ah, there's a lot. There's a

different and it's a time, but the academy had to be better, the people for the

the world of me, you had to be in position to to me help. So I have done to do you have to

do you know to do you know, I'm ready to live in a mountain and I think it's a thing that

casas a little more with your style of that you're a guy more low profile, in a generation

of a generation of you know, you're a more in your sort of almost four years then

have been so, you don't post a on the internet, on the social, how is being a

kind of like a moment of that's a moment of that's, there's always ten

photos that is always post it, it's another style, yeah, each one, every one in your

can't, I think I don't have much to say, it's me that's, I don't have

much to say, and I, I, from the whole world is trying to know

of my life, and all the competition, all is a man who's very interested in what I'm doing what I'm doing. So I see that I've already for the sport,

to say what I'm doing, to say what I'm thinking. Chege a time that I don't have more nothing to say that will be newities, you know, the life always was this way, competitive, and training, and how many times I can say

that I'm going to train, and how I'm I'm trying, and what I'm doing? It's the same thing, you know, No, no, my, my, my, my, my, my, my style of to do that I'm the moment. And, my trainingment, there's a lot, but it's, but it's the same thing, you know, I'm, I'm not, you know, I'm not doing competitiveially

since the kid, so, so, everyone just people just know, how it is, be the filer of Rixon, all the whole of Grace, I've just gave this response, various times, so, I don't have, I don't see what I have to to say that will make a difference.

I think in a hour you have to look and this is important are the those are the

and after the looters and after the Brazil? This time of pandemic you have to be there to

get this moved to mountain and so I love Brazil I always

feel of Brazil and not so Brazil but various places of the

world that I would to I don't could I could

do this is a thing but I don't I don't know when they would have

to be able to new. Until now, there people who can't come to the United that I know

the life, the life is so I'm grateful to the time that I could have many of

countries and it is what it is the impression that I have said, you said, there's always the same

things that they're always you're going to if you if you don't if you if you were a lot of

a month, you'd always put and like, for the pleasure, the

thing, the you know, what you do you do this do you know,

but I'm about these things things it's not no moved nothing but I

just don't have much thing to talk I've just I've got to what interests what the people want

what the people want to what the people guarding the energy for the you're gonna you think in lot

also I'll put a kimono again or so make a new a superluta that is a

market is a much in a market is especially or without I'm I've been I think about that I'm

focused on the UFC And just for Let's finish A curiousity My last year You went to You went to get With that

Cereena of Purge Yeah, I wanted to You know, I'm a same music, that not was a music, or you

are thinking a thing different for Saturday? No, the Brian Ortega robbed my song.

So, so now I have to move my song and do other? You've already

I'm thinking then? I'm I'm I'm going to go to choose. Now we're going to see a fight week and bathe up with Marlon Moray, Jessica Battistaka, Roberto Satoshi,

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to the second year of this time. Well, well, I'm a podcast more once how is being

the preparation for this second the challenge there to see can't have a vaga in the final in these

year. Exactly. Let me get a chave here. It's just the hour, car.

I'll be the last year, I'm trying and a victory. And I I think it's not just trying to try to

try to it's a thing, and it's a phase and this phase I'm sure you

will pass and it came to we got the first last in the first time a lot,

a lot that was a lot of difficult, we just we just we just but

unfortunately he veed with a different that we thought and it was good

that we got to we knew more one of his and We're going to classificat,

we're going to do a call to out and who can't know we don't get him again. How is it? You came to

the UFC, in a situation more complicated, in the derotas and all the counter-campion because you are a guy who has

a lot of story in the sport, but is one of the top of the category. He did very beautiful in the FC,

did beautiful in the Ossirius Afire, that was the organization that was the organization that was over

the looking to be in front of you, if you have been this really to

have been able to the first against a not the number one of the number, I'm going to get the

the champion. Infelism it, unfortunately, we can't we can't choose, like what we

want to we're doing, we're we're we're working for event, never food

to gole but but sincerely even, even, knowing, the difficulty that the

would be a lot of two, I don't hesitate in peg, no, because we're not trying in a form different, a tournament, and I'm just I knew that, even I'm getting,

a knockoutian, we'd be in the game, and not would be in a lot of more more,

more, more than never, and I see that really the guys are not there nothing to

get there, get there, I'm going to get to a Leandro Flores, I'll assist the

he, I'm an an adversary a different, a guy a, and is experienced

in the part of boxing, there's Jiu-Git's also, but of other world

not a lot to be a good for a lot more to get a finalize this form of the

non-of- time to be a lot of a time a time for the time you get a

time you get a little bit a little dolorida after that really the only

the only the piece of the recovery of not I don't not I'm not I'm

not I'm not I'm the right right now the right right right really not recuperer

still, but the time will be the sufficient, and this event, I don't need to lose much the other guys. I think it's now that I'm going to say in the advantage of the other guys, in this

this, this, this, this, this, this is a lot of, a lot of suffering to batte the

peso pressure, and I sawphing a lot of, you really, the guys people, came to find the, al-erhand, the besti-gues,

I don't know if you did if you did you vestiary and which I got in because you have been in a lot of

this first last time not the first we're in the same vestial but I passed for him there some I don't know

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm generally the

lot more in the form of the PFL because you can't you can't you can't you can't

then at this lot you you pass you look like you put you look like this man of this

time this time here the the hand of the guy, that's the time that's always you're always medying the

guy, not, no, nothing in any one in any a guy there I think,

it's, it's, I'm not I'm not more, I'm more more strong, but I

think I have the I'm the thing, he's, he's the victory,

he, he, he won't the for, for the decision, against

the guy, the he, the, he, he, he, he,

of his this lute specifically that you were there and in the the lot of the last? It's a

man quite quite there's a chan, there's a in the but he goes to more to be in a lot of

he's going to attack, he likes to be position and he and there even we will let's

he's just he's when you think in the how you think you think you think you

think you're to start to the initial to end to attack to at the end, at the end, at the end, the end, the end, the end, the name of the event,

it's, now or never, now, never, understand? It's, I'm going to go to come, and I don't have nothing to to lose, I think I've got to get much more than this sport, and I'll get this, I'm going to get a thing different now, I'll can't classify, and it will be a manor, it will be legal, it, it'll be legal, classificing, and be there, before, to assist the luthers of the guys and see who can pick here in the semifinals. We know that

we know basically basically have to get in the first round, because the question of pointuation, because the

time was regular was more long, not it was only only were two luts, now if you have to knockoutia in the first round

to accumulate six points or so you see if you see in a second round, the objective is this

to enter and to get to get to get to get to get to finalize the knockoutia

the most the most rapid, possible. Logic, with all respect to the adversary, knowing that we

have to be low, but not so low, this lot, but we can't be able to be able to be able.

With the talking about the time, you know, about the difficulties and how is you use this as a motivation?

It's a thing, po, it's a, I'm, I'm, I need to end with this sequence, I need

to be able to get to bat this guy, because, I don't admit I mean, me to see in this situation a guy who

was, he put in a centuron and everything so much, I imagine that's more difficult. Exactly this,

we'll see a lot for and it's how I'm just like I'm seeing this it's a point with

with all, I'm going to go to go to and it is very good as a fan

me and me and I see looking that this man

all all the all is a man who is a the knockout, that don't

go to the lot of decision, and the Marlon needs to the knockout, the Marlon needs to

finalize. So I think for the fans, it's very very nice to see a lot of

my life, and I promise, not disapontar to get a man. Maria, Camarad,

I'd get a little of your self, you know, you know, you know,

the two guys that are in the future in the UFC, the Rue

and the Aljama Stelin, you, he, disputed the centuron against Sehruido in F.C.

They're going to see now. The Sehrund, going to after this dispute to see who is the best-gul of the world in

the end of the F.C. How is you, the guy who knows these two, how you do you know, this duel of the two?

I think it will depend much of which the two will get to impose the goal better.

I think the Cerruda is a guy that he knows that he can't let him start the

time the start to into, like all all, accelerate and corp to because if he

he's a time, he's a stalling, he's going going to do you know, he's a guy a lot

than the serrude of the head to be a man who and he'll dovelas, and it can

be a big-of-and-a in a return to get a post-in-a- post-in-n- an sterling

but a super-athletta like Sehud, I've got to be a little case with him, He is a guy who really has a pressure,

a, like, a, like, a, like, a, a,

a, know, not so, of the M. But, of the sport, of combat.

So, it's a guy that we can't dovetar, a lot of a lot a lot of

difficult opinion. I think the Sterling even, he, he don't have much

moral with the fans, you, car, an impression. He said,

look the list of adversaries that he got him he gave the last

time he he went he went to he got of everyone so car a car but he continues

receiving very hate, man, who you think that has that's what happens that the people

don't not respect a man even as a man I think that this is very

very of carism I think he is a guy legal so, it's

a bight professional but I think to to conquest the fans the car

has to have to a character has to be good on what he does. I think I think it's a little of this, so,

for he enter, but as well, as you say, a guy complete, a guy who was, a decoferer of a derota, for me, how it was, the way that was. It's impressive man. I'm impressionant, man. I mean, I told him, I've got to say his parliens, for all the career, for all

that he came conquisting. I said to him, he merceia, much more respect to everyone. It's, I think. He'd , it must. He'd like, he'd be able to, and just to finish him. And so, to just to finish. A.m. And so, doing now

career in box, he ran in the beginning in the year in New York, then he's a lot of

after Jeremy Stephens in the event of the time you're doing this new moment of the career

of the other than you've been in and went over and went very back on the thing that

we're talking about the man, he's a super-atletta today, he's doing a career

in a sport of combat that is a box, but if if you could also

could be could be could be could be Jiu-Juits. It's a great champion, a land of the MMA, in my opinion, one of the better of all the time.

And I'm sure that guinada of the career of him in box abramed more space for the MMA that want to be able to be able to be extacquer. In other the other side of the line, we have, we're going to be in the F.C. Now, in the division of Pesopalya,

after doing some of the Pesomoska, to infathean, Jan, Jash, Jan. Jessica, how are the expectative now, no cut of a bit more more than

after the lot to some of the most, how do you how about this fight week? I think I'm very

quite quite I'm very happy, I think a good work with the team,

with the master, the Bruno, the my preparator physical Markinus and also

also with the people of the nutrition of Las Vegas so so I am sure,

I'm feeling well, it's clear that it's always more comfortable, it's more

more than the question of the perka of the problem, but I'm going to really

I'm going today, I'm about 126 libras, after you have taken after having

eaten, and all so much, I think this night I have this night, I'm going to be

in about of 123, like I say of onth, I'm, I'm, I'm,

it's been super tranquil, it's be one of the best that I've already

that I've already to use in the category of 52. This this is the first of a long sequence

in this division or you pretend and continue to start to go to another as far as

I'm doing that this is the first a long scale that comes in this division I want to

keep in the 52 kilos I want to get the chance to put a centuron

to know and for this happens I have to maintain fixed in a

category so So, despite the the possibilities in the 5-7 now are different,

now we're we're in a campaign different, but in the case of them they're going to have to

make a lot, so probably I don't see a Lex Alex Agrazo continues with the

centuron or if the Valentina recuperer, but the my intention is to continue to go to

5-2 and have the opportunity to put the the people we know

that you know you know you're to be the third Fea next year offering a

lot with two two months of the time you're going to get who you're going to get in who you know

oh but it's no need no need don't need don't need don't even ask

you know I'm just write the what are the lessons that you took this sequence

that you did in two categories different what were those are the you

pretend to leave now for this journey long that you said to

what you want to what you want to what is to be to be a Pesopalya?

I think I I've been doing a good work in the two categories. I think the experience of going to

talk about and it's always a differential also in the career of each the career of and I think I have evolved

much in these last last last last last few years I've shown things different that I

don't do in the first years. Today I came me feeling a more complete

in the octagon in It's through this, to be able to be with menines of all those categories, at least

those two more, the two more disputed which is the 5-7-152. So, to look with these men, is a differential in the MMA.

I'm evolving about, I'm evolving rapidly, and this is being very legal. I think the great apprenticeship

that I'm trying is that, it's not important what the category that I be, I always will do my better, I

always go to get to get to work, I'm trying to know, I'm going to be in an eye

more afiated, so it's that you see the the chute different, some the contobeladas,

the joint, so I want to put in practice all that I've been a move to this

lot, because I reparee looking your Instagram and that you

were passing a time in the Brazil, you know, you you made something,

you, you've How it was? Because you were doing direct in Vegas, with Paranah and everyone there. Yeah, I'm going to Brazil, now I'm moreing in New Brazil.

So, we now have a filial new in St. Gilles Pinyas, that is the Bruno that's who's doing. And the most

most games probably will be made there, but for this for this the Luttae, but also the master

put in San Paulo, train with Master Mori, who is a specialist in a Muay Thai traditional and, mytahe traditional.

And, my time and I went to the final of my camp to be to continue this work here in a

summer of the for not to get this time of the toevellovello of the so I

trained much, I've even my my my mom to train to me

to be myrianna who Markins who was my my preparator physical

here in Brazil went all thanks the orientations of the master but the camp was all in Brazil

all in Brazil What did you resolve if to move back to Brazil after this period that passed on in Bergas? Ah, I've some problems

here with the question of my divorce and all right and my ex-spos came to come to back to I'm going to go to work

to Brazil I'm going to go back my family of my my mom and the people that I

am, the mom the mother, the mother, the Bruno, so I'm going to to be able to these people who me bring in energy

very, very good, and will revigorate my efforts to be able to this lute. And I think it was that's that, I think,

that's that my family, it's does a difference. And we're talking specifically about this lute of this battle

now, you have made that you made that made that's clear what you, you know, you did a camp focused on

Muaythai and you're going to put to get a part to with sure I trained

this part of Moitai afiii I'm I'm sure I'm still still yeah

I'm sorry yeah my name the two two veils so take oso

now I'm it's for where it's to it's to get to the strategy is to go to

but it's I'm not I'm can't I'm also the time of

my time of my judiths so I'm what I I don't know. I've been

turning an athlete a day more complete and I hope to make all this in practice,

in the Saturday against Ian Chanan. And she is much of the decision, if she can't be points,

she will get a lot of the final, you know, she's a strategy of trying to

try to try to try to a problem, a conflict violent, to try a finalization and all,

even more against you, and it's more explosive. Well, she, she has

a, style different, when she when she looked with the Macens there, she knew that the

Macens would try to put her she would puttow much those kicks on the joel,

to trapal the entrows, but I think I am very really rapid I have chutes

very strong so I think the strategy for her in the case would

really really to live a lot for points because if she she

come to be to be one of us will be out of no the

but But, but, but for certain, she has been seen that I'm a

same thing, she's not a way to go to the time to do a lot of a lot of a lot of

her and have the opportunity to par a little the impetus of her too, because she also,

she's a rapid, back, forth, so I think if I did a good

work in the grade there too, I'm doing the clovers, traveling the joe, even the

this pressure, she, she'll, she'll be more and then with the second

in the end of the other will be more the first of the future really a victory a victory a real

a newcaught what is the first of the you're being being taken in the two, in your

front he immediately a mandamus that you have gone there has a Rosa

Marianus a Karles Pazza and the champion Jumelie so you know

you just is a one very one of you know you know you think what thinking this

lot when's being maybe, maybe a little a lot of a cause of the

because it's a really because it's not really I'm not yeah,

I'm not really not used because of she's probably she was she was

she was the last she was she was the she was I'm

not I'm I'm I'm so I imagine that it would be

going to have there didn't have a battle there marked

so probably if I wince and I'm very contendent very avassalator I think the

my option is to putt this foot of this sturt of this but it's sure that let me look

with a Carla I never I've never I'm gonna I'm putting her yeah maybe she

maybe she now she doesn't then it's there not there's a either or will I'm

the carla has two cinturons the Weli has two I want to have my also, too?

So, if this Luce, the Lue, and Lemos, not happen, I want to have this opportunity to do that

the Tenturon, even that I have to do more a lot but I think to do that the end of the year,

the F.C. me does the other side of the line, we have got Robert Satoche, champion

Pesso Leavid Risen, and this madrugada, and this night to Sector-Pas-SV and Fentorke

the Spock Carlyle, not will not be to be in the future in the

way to be the first of my time. For more this challenge in Japan. I'm

am feeling well a lot of a lot of a lot of a man from coming from back from

Belator coming out of rising but I'm feeling well I think I'm feeling well

I think after the with the guys with the car of the name

that I did the more, more more, more, so, more, so nervous

like I'm getting so nervous, like I'm going to talk with these people, this galas this guy,

this cross-promotion, but you're being caring this form, you're representing the rising against who

who came to the or for you, or for you, as a guy he just did a

new, no, in the past you think no, there's a climate different,

so, no, I, I, I, I, I mean I'm always

representing the rising by the your title of the your center of the event

so, like, with any people who will be to do you say, this day is

the champion of Risen so I have this sentiment of being representing Risen with a

person who came to from a last he, he went from an athlete that was

from a BALATOR and he was in Belatore and now I'm going to be

So I took a sentiment of and a feeling of a other event so the last last the other

little little event special between the championes that you have been the game and then

what you can't make you how it how it was the process of the event that they

they were decided that not would not be going to that for this lot to

for me I think if the guy was looking if the guy was living the is a

rega that's a reason they're they're they're they're they're

not sure, I think as people, that's used, someone who is someone who is someone that's being

of a event minor and it's it's a champion, and the champion to get to

get to get to win on the signoral I'm I don't I don't

I think I think the guy to look the champion he had to be he had

been to being to be in a situation in a sequence of victory, I mean,

that's a thing thing. I think always always think I'm not very interesting, yeah,

financially not. Muda? Muda, your payment, the Tau your bolsa?

Muda. For, uh, not, I don't say to all the contract of all,

but, normally, the contract, would be, uh, for this lot, now,

you're getting less than you would be a if your situation if the if the

, that comes of other event, it's going to people, people are people to say,

ah, not a lot so d' a lot of not a lot of then we'll pay the centra-an, then we'll pay

less. So, like, I think, I think, I think, put, put a guy more

puttas in the game, put on the chutein' no, and it's in that's, it's a guy

that maybe not is a car d'n't, a guy perigoso, that have a some time, if you don't take

a good, man-a, it's a-hre-hre when it's in the same way that I have chance to gain the guy also, I think, I think, I think I'd always always always play the centurion,

always pick who's being in victory, and just the head. This is one thing that the Pride also had also the Fedor

gained the centuron and he went the Minotauru, you defended the centuron, then he entreated the Cossack that no

no, The other second is Crocop. Defend his centrope. Then, then he's a guy against the Zuluzino, which was more like freak show

for a guy, that's not value centuron, but, like, go, that's the Zulu Zul-Zion can't do, the Fender,

look, you'll have to have to re- the lute, make a re-Vanch, then there will have a lot, there's a

narrative, but, but, you put the champion, not that your adversary now that's the

same, you know, the guy, he has been a lot, the guy, have been quite, there can't that we're in this

side of the world, we can't understand very much but you can't you can't you can't what the guys

do you're just the car's you're just the thing you're not or if there something for back, man I think it's

a little I think it's a little of the show I think it's like we're we're gonna pay me a box because who can

want to be to be able to like you to pay you to be you living independent of your adversary

so I think this so that it was actually it was actually had a different

the point of you say, me, this guy never will get to do that guy. But I think that's in day

it's not the category in the category I think this zero this and it did you get a

one way, it was the one way, he was a manchukes, and the guys got a champion of

another event, of a event of the game, that was, that's the that's the lot of the

yeah, and man, nobody, I postable that the guy of the guy of

the dip to get the guy the divi gave, It was very It was very It was very

It was really It was a guy We were The one of the event He was like Like he was like What's like What I'm going to do?

Because it was for Clever Luter But they got And then Revenge for the Cora To get a Revenge of the

After he's After that's It's a category The Clver almost in a Tadine He was the next Fila

He had to I'm gonna Finally finally The Channescentral Yeah It's that Yeah But, po, what, it's the point that you're going to lot,

right? From 6th to Saturday, at the night on the hour of the Brazilian, will affect the Spike Carlisle to try to retom the way of the victories

after that I'm going to get a lot of the other against the year, you know, you're going to be a lot of victories, por, finalizing

all the world, a, and even a knockout in the middle, and, you, and, your adversary also

entombed in the last last year, but he's, but he's, a time a year some

some months more than you know, the ultimate against the way J how you think you

know the case the game of you know a guy that's a lot what he

what he what he perils he he tries for this little I don't think he

very orthodox he says so I think I think complicated because when you see a

guy that he's you can't more or men you imagine he's he's

he's he jogs of He does a shoot me exquisite He does a At least On the ground He does a

movementation Like much Like he's That's like Carli, what defense really good he did

He does Like he says you say, "'What he "'What he "'tendor "'does, "'tain't

"'anyuble "'and, "'this is "'a "'and it's a "'of, "'he's a "'of his

"'of his "'lote "'and, "'it's, "'it's, "'a, "'and, "'but I

"'Yes, "'he'll "'he can "'a "'one, a "'a, "'a, a "'one,

"'he's a "'of, "'he's "'C.' "'C.' "'But, "'N, "'I don't

"'he'll "'he'll "'he'll "'he'll confidence on the ground on the car

fort there I think he not will try to try to risk much in the finalization apisar

to have some some no mameau I think he not will be it's a risk much as

maybe it is a confidence in the game of if he has a try of a

tryacation good he will try to try to you can't try to you know it's

you're a sure you but you know the carochefe he's the car will

want to try grappling with you. It's it's interesting. We said the same thing we've said the same thing.

Maybe the I wanted to do you know, but in the three rounds the moments that he does the time with me is because the

we're in the time I'm in the moment of the he was going to the fight to go to go to the or tento me

give to the Ked so I think the Spike also not not will make different. I think he

will confi to he's not think he he will try me to put it to back

to do the way to do you? How do the sentiment with the way to the way I'm a

idea of the opportunity to the opportunity to do you know, the Risen and the door has been putts abertas

to do do you and do you think this want to get this to get it to get to

the other that you have been to that you know, I think I've learned a lot

really good was a first time I think I did that I think internationally I'm

with a for me, one of the one of the Bellator, so, there's a want to do

love to do that and there's a lot of people, which was a victory of him a bituidose and all,

I think this sentiment of a revant to do not to do not was a lot good, which I

think I even me surprised, I think I even didn't think I could get

so that I would get a So I have a sentiment, not just with him, but with other athletes there, of calibre out of the Belator,

also? You think that will roll or do you think he toparia to or you think the form that was the

fight, the difficulties that he not would be he not have been a gain, team fendanting

to the new, because I went to in Japan, he got the decision of the champion of

the RIS, and for what I'm going to try to me risked to me risked because valerie the centuron.

Then, then you have to put the citron in the game, for he to top, it has to be, like, like, he'd be, like,

I think he'd say, I think he'd say'd, I think he'd say'd, I'd, I'd say, because, Quiro no, not,

the, man, who can't be a lot of event, to be a different, so I'm,

so, I think he'd be here, so, the other side of now, we'd be in June of Europe,

that, the day, the October, and, about the octog, and balade, Angela Rihil, to be Brazilian, Marina

Rodriguez. Vianna, welcome to podcast there. How is being the expectative for more a new new F.C.

more one way, in a card enumerated from paperview, a new challenge a great against Maria. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. I'm in so much sooddy. So, I'm going to back,

I'm going to go back. To work the UFC are me giving and I ended with Angela Rue

in the last, a quite a year after, it was 14th of May. And I ended up me lesioning, and etc. And I used to say that

I'd say that I'd be attacking, because I went to the top 10, and then now me did a marina that's there's a lot in front. I think very good. I think it's a great opportunity for me,

to be to be able to pass-a-pastrofencing the objectives, I'm with tranquillity, with security, with security. And never can't know what are

the plans of the F.C., because the guys can decide to make a lot for any reason, but the marina, she came to derot, but she was caught there to dispute the centuron, before to confront her manda lemmas, for many people she had to be able to run, it,

and she also broke her own roll-up, and she, her propecest her under Amanda, now to give a few passes at-draise, but I think you, confronting her, you have, to, take the moral in the house, to be, to, you know, to be in this conversation, right?

Inclusive, I'm one of these people, I'm also, I'm trying, I'm talking, I'm trying, I'm trying that she really merceia, but, anyway, but it's the moment's there. Po, yes, I think that, being, being,

the man, I'm going to have conditions to be, to be, of, you know, and, like you said, the UFC is a little imprevisible, but I think there's something more real, something, and everything,

and everything, and it's a lot, with certainty. And it's a That's a classic, the athlete in the Jiu-GIS contra

the striker. It's like you see? You think she'll she can be sure to surprise

going to go to the or you can't be able to be in back to her against her

MMA in the fact it in the fact it has been more

back back back because everyone all the people all

obviously that we we have our preferences and we have the

our padrons, and et cetera. But I am I post much more in MMA today,

this mixture and et cetera, this thing a little hybrid, not a sea,

nor the not the world, and I think that this the way, I think

this the way. You think you're that you think it fundamental to get

a victory finalizing or then a knockout to put

that that this alavancated that the victory is

even because The Marina, she said, a matreta Dura, and she never had been

a knockoutia finalized at the last the last lot that she had been to be able to the

mandalemmas. So, the fate of Amandaaum was very for her. And you doing

something something something, you can put you put up the rank than the

you would be normally with this victory. I think, that if,

having a finalization, a knockouts or whatever for, depending the form the

way, and it will much in no moment in the majority

in the majority of my part of my lot of the jiuits as in MMA I'm

I'm I'm busco and what comes in consequence I don't I don't I need

I need I need I don't think it's a more a more for me for me

for me not not it doesn't not function well I'm I'm

obviously following the strategy but what you want to appear to

it will be In Jujitz, for example, the finalization, it is a consequence. And as soon as I think the knockout, it is a consequence. So it's it. But it would be a great, it's great. But the focus is this, you know, to get there, make a great lot,

in, to find out, this is my focus. And it's probably a year, quite one, a year cravado, in the last one of the last, a lot for this you a trapol, how this

you've seen in a form positive this time forced to extra to be in the doctorate and

go to go to the octagon I'm in May. This is our superstition. So, May you

will be to do you know, I'm going to do that in May, it's my anniversary

also, but when I know the surprise the situation, it man,

he was the lance of the lesion, and I passed for much a lot of a lot of

but I'm I'm obligated to look at other aspects of my life and I think much as much the Mousache

that the whole, so I think this moment he made matureceo much me made look to many other

things for what I was to me curvando for that I not was me curvando not

more me more than my life so I so I think that was the part very positive,

it's a disaccelerated so, never with other eyes, I think that was positive. In this

side, extra-campo, what more that you value in this what you did you in your day-a-day,

in your training, in your career, in you, that you can't you've got to move

to that to come? No extra- camp, that you said, I was, I, I

passed a good time of my life, and this is marvellous, be,

not see, it's questionable, but I only were a vina atleta, you know, and I think that this

me left was much long, but this also was me impeding to advance, perhaps, you know,

because other aspects of my life were in and, and, and at a few,

the most the complexes us not get much long, but they also it's

not, it's, so, now, now, now, I think, now,

I'm, okay, you me, I'm trossed to here, but now

I want to do different, I want to, be more equilibrated, I want, not just

to be in an athlete, and I'm in the life that your life, you know, I'm,

my life family, uh, amorous, no, it was, there were things that were

things that were things that was, I, was that I had a energy

all my energy in that, but it was energy of frustration, It was energy of various

things, yeah, and then, it were combustives good, but there were there are

other combustives too, there are other things, there's other things, so in this period,

my father also, it was a year, my father got a so, he was,

so, so, of things very forth, so, he was, he was, he was,

he was, he, was, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

family, it was very good, I'm very I'm going I'm now, I'm a person

better capable of to love and to be love and I think that all the of the

autochton of the whole what you do you do you know how are your father?

My father is well he's well he passed and we have

we're having we there's there's other battles that are

many more important too Yeah. The your father, did what? I should I ask you to ask you to

ask you to know he's going to get a cancer of prostate and then it was in the same period, including that I did a my surgery in the

joint and I'm in Las Vegas and then and it occurred in form simultaneously, but now he's all okay

and we're all we're just we're just we're just many people of many times, I see much

this in MMA especially, uh, the juttators they canalizue many sentiments of the raiva, of frustration,

for the luta, I'm going to discount no car this. But there's much more in the life than you can use of motivation, the side positive

of your career, or of your dreams, and use this time to you gave this opportunity to see that, be the same time that is good

you use this raive to just want to your adversary and gain of it, there are other things

that can be to be to be of that. And it's it is it is, it's very

inaugural for me, in Guilerm, it's a very inaugural but it's a we have to innovate,

try the new and it's that I'm going to use other the other because they're

quite, they're quite, but they're they're being atrapalating maybe, you know,

to advance, and now we're also, there's other things are very good, yeah,

the life, the things good, things that we can use as good, it's not inaugural,

let's see. for a certain year. You did a third you're going to do you do a while of your career. I went and won't get the best of the third of victory. What do you think that this is the move-muda? What do you think you? You know, you will get to get into top five of the category? There's someone who's in because in various

interviews, and you go, and you go, and I'm saying, and I'm going, I'm saying, no, I'm going, and I'm going,

and I'm very more patient, you know, like, I'm a marina to do now, and I will be a lot with her,

and, and, the other pass is then and I'm, and I'm very patient, it's all okay, it's all okay,

it's, I think the cinturon also, he's a consequence, you know, if he's, he will be,

he will be, and okay, it's it, is it, but I I'm really champion and this is

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