MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Mayra Sheetara explica doping, Alexandre Pantoja mira história no UFC

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

Mayra Sheetara viu a maior vitória de sua carreira ser anulada no UFC por conta de um caso de doping, e explica a situação em entrevista exclusiva. Ela, aliás, reforça a vontade de lutar (e humil...har) Julianna Peña em disputa de cinturão. O podcast fala ainda com campeão dos moscas do UFC, Alexandre Pantoja, sobre a luta com Brandon Royval, a rivalidade com Sean O’Malley, o duelo dos sonhos no MMA, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. After watching the biggest win of her UFC run vanish because of a failed drug test, Mayra Bueno Silva explains the whole situation in an exclusive interview. “Sheetara” reinforces her desire to fight (and humiliate) Julianna Peña for the vacant bantamweight title. The podcast also welcomes UFC flyweight champion Alexandre Pantoja to discuss his first title defense against Brandon Royval, his rivalry with Sean O’Malley, his dream fight, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 And representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guineering! Cruz! Hello, Lung, and a fan of the second-second second-second episode of podcast Trocaceau-M-Franca,
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Starting point is 00:02:39 American on M.M. and I'ma-Fairna in the time in company of Maira Shita Bueno Silva, that explains
Starting point is 00:02:46 in details of your case of Dopp in the United and I reforce the decision to
Starting point is 00:02:49 support the cuntoron the sturtown of the DALs to omelial to Juliana
Starting point is 00:02:54 Penaena in their own the proper territory. The podcast receives, again, the champion of the mostosha, Alessandro and Pantoja, to say about your next luta and various other issues. But the first interview of the
Starting point is 00:03:04 week of the second is, with As Chittara. See, there. On the other side of the line, we have, Mayera Chittara, one of the distacks of the UFC, of the Brazil in the UFC, this year, the last two years, is going to the world. But, unfortunately, now it just got to pass for a lot out of octagon,
Starting point is 00:03:24 that not went to your side, you know, car, I've got a confusion there's a confusion of
Starting point is 00:03:30 the office of the US, the USA, the commission of Las Vegas. So I wanted to receive here to
Starting point is 00:03:35 we'll be to get to get more how it was all these tramites that came to a suspension
Starting point is 00:03:42 court for you, but the most important, this annulation of the grand
Starting point is 00:03:48 victory about the role and there were months that were years that were
Starting point is 00:03:52 for who, for who who don't know, for who I've got a medication, I'm a TDAH, and I've taken a medication
Starting point is 00:03:58 has much time. And this medication, the usada is, the F.C. It's, it's time that I've took, then, all of them, you know, the commission, you know, and we, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:04:08 came in my urina picogramas, nanograms of the substance, which is, comprova that I don't doze, that I'm,
Starting point is 00:04:18 this substance, she, it's not doping in so that it can not can be used in the semester and it's what I I'm not so I'm not so I'm
Starting point is 00:04:27 sorry, I'm going to take on the quantity, and then it's getting in a novella, see arrasn't the commission, no-saviton, what to do, the U.S.S.A. me declared as innocent, the U.S.C. me made as innocent, so, that for U.S.S. And for U.S.A. And I'll
Starting point is 00:04:43 continue in third place. I'm going to continue in my position, because it's a thing that I was with fear if would be taken to be from the position after I gained from, but no, for U.S. I'm going to continue in third place. What was, what was So it was so that the Commission Atletica not accatored, the Commission Atletica
Starting point is 00:04:58 not understood that is a medication that I took for much time and they decided to me a pen a brand, a multi, and in a non-contest of my my lute, that I also, not understand the why, because if the UFC
Starting point is 00:05:09 is, if it's a user, that is the organ responsible, for care of this and do it, me do as innocent, I also don't know why the Commission Atletic to have made this, but
Starting point is 00:05:19 in all the malice, this was the menor, because me did a penra, Brandon, I could me down the first the
Starting point is 00:05:26 club is the clency the role in the so if for them was a job
Starting point is 00:05:30 then for the reason they're to end up the third place,
Starting point is 00:05:36 in the ranking of the M. Fight you are number one I'm
Starting point is 00:05:40 know that continues being a number one after the of this
Starting point is 00:05:44 case all the because the lot happened not was a put her
Starting point is 00:05:49 with testosterone with a bomb so that like finalized the
Starting point is 00:05:53 finalized was this remedy that you did to finish the holy home, no, no, it was if this remedy me would have been finalize,
Starting point is 00:05:58 I never never had any I'm never it was, like, first I'm going to explain the how it's
Starting point is 00:06:09 how it was the process of identifying this or how time that you try this? There are many years
Starting point is 00:06:14 that I'm my TDAH is the type hyperativo, I'm a person very hyperatia and I don't
Starting point is 00:06:19 can't get to sit on a television I don't I can't be in movement the time all. So, it's a thing that I detected
Starting point is 00:06:30 in me a few years and I started think I thought I was having a crisis of anxiety, you know, so I'm looking at a crisis of anxiety horrible because I
Starting point is 00:06:39 don't, I don't know I can't get quiet, and then it was when a my doctor said, no,
Starting point is 00:06:45 you don't have been TDAH and it's has been a long time and then I've made me medicate
Starting point is 00:06:51 and I feel well more more when I take a remedy, but the
Starting point is 00:06:54 my type is imperative I don't do you know I'm in a time a total and you
Starting point is 00:06:57 don't know you know before the but you know that the world but you know
Starting point is 00:07:03 so it's different and so there's a rest in you know you're you're
Starting point is 00:07:07 you're the form that you use the way to the maybe to be
Starting point is 00:07:12 a little before maybe it's so process about how how you
Starting point is 00:07:16 know so so I'm I'm had been too
Starting point is 00:07:20 too you For who An exemption of the orthopeutic It's an exemption I'm a exemption I'm trying
Starting point is 00:07:28 with this Tui has much time just that I used I didn't that I don't have the
Starting point is 00:07:34 documents and me asked me more a lot of documents but I I left
Starting point is 00:07:38 pass and I didn't pass and I said I I'm used the strategy to not
Starting point is 00:07:43 talk and I didn't pass and I'm a year a year a year
Starting point is 00:07:49 for there more more or at least at least after I, I I put in, I don't want
Starting point is 00:07:54 I don't want to see this discomfort in a month of the week, I want to talk about, I started in the
Starting point is 00:07:58 papers that they wanted to and then I'm going to be the papers practically all the little,
Starting point is 00:08:05 there was where it was the document the documentation and I made, and then I was I had
Starting point is 00:08:12 made on before I had got to dopping. But I had been the test.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. And then I had had done the test, but I just had made the documentations, and today I'm a person
Starting point is 00:08:22 that I can use for the therapist for where I want I want to be when I want to looker. And now you can use
Starting point is 00:08:27 during the fight week? During the fight week I can't do that fight week in the day of the Lute, because it's not a remedy
Starting point is 00:08:34 that you do performance. He is a remedy that simply he helps to not be hyperativa because I'm
Starting point is 00:08:40 really hyperativa because I'm who I'm know, who I'm perjee and I'm know, and then it's
Starting point is 00:08:45 a remedy that he's just me help to for the hyperativity The only thing that he me I just now,
Starting point is 00:08:50 grace of God, we can't do. But I'm not know how I'm going to be used. I'm going to be able to be this. This next agency
Starting point is 00:08:56 how is how are going to lead to this, how is it how will be the rigor, if they're going, because this isa who was the causeada or was the
Starting point is 00:09:04 commission of Nevada? It was always the same that me liberate me liberate, the commission atlertica
Starting point is 00:09:10 also the capa, this liberation of this liberation. So, it now I'm now I'm able to use the
Starting point is 00:09:14 remedy. But, but I don't have a liberation to use the remedy because the Commission atlantic not accept a retroactive. She's I have to
Starting point is 00:09:23 prove I have to use the remedy or once to use, but in the case I used it once. And the use is a set of retroactive, tranquill, they understand. But the commission not accepted. The tendency is that this new, new organ, that will work with the FC, that they may be obey those
Starting point is 00:09:38 continue accepting, accepting, the exemptions is... I believe... I believe that, after after time, that time, so much, Tant movement, tant to
Starting point is 00:09:49 pass a thing we've not I'm I'm going to go back back no, I believe that they're going to see
Starting point is 00:09:55 the time, all the all the documents that we've made, the UFC is to the FECC will be the
Starting point is 00:10:10 time, you know, not far as the question, so, this suspension was mere bureaucracy, because there no, it was not not going to
Starting point is 00:10:20 make a lot of until the year so it's really it's really to get the victory the lottery home,
Starting point is 00:10:24 and pay that that's a famous mutina, yeah. A little a bit to the borough
Starting point is 00:10:29 to the government, yeah, I think just served for this for this, but the
Starting point is 00:10:35 worst of all is the victory, because car, the money nobody doesn't
Starting point is 00:10:38 nobody a great victory home the finalization for everyone for who can who
Starting point is 00:10:45 not you're not being a winner but it's there, but there no-counter, like no
Starting point is 00:10:49 contes, like it's like, it's not not ever have been not even you're
Starting point is 00:10:53 to be to make, for example, to make, I'm not that you would be that you
Starting point is 00:10:58 would be the contours the countering against, a julianna pen,
Starting point is 00:11:01 something, and now, with this no contest, you think the UFC you see the form
Starting point is 00:11:06 different, or you you're that, despite of this, you will be in the
Starting point is 00:11:10 future to the next I don't believe that they will me see different, I think I'm there's a lot of because the OSCE
Starting point is 00:11:16 did all right, because OSCE did do all right was a man for me in this, in this time, they
Starting point is 00:11:21 intervited in all, they did they all I'm going to do, but I'm going to get a question,
Starting point is 00:11:27 so about the this is a question, the chief, no, nobody says, it's a it's a
Starting point is 00:11:34 lotcura, because it could be marked this this lute, but until again now,
Starting point is 00:11:38 I'm, I'm, I'm very superansosa that I will be at the next dispute of
Starting point is 00:11:42 Cintrown but it's it's a it's a my own it's a not even I'm not
Starting point is 00:11:49 but I'm really after this performance with Hollywood one I'm really really superan and that I can't
Starting point is 00:11:54 be a time the second so I'm so I'm so much I'm not this
Starting point is 00:11:57 decision should you're more I'm there's a remedy the
Starting point is 00:12:02 there's there there if it's if you take a decision would
Starting point is 00:12:06 you Julianna Penn she she if I would if I would like a person
Starting point is 00:12:11 for her I don't I'd like I don't because the Juliana has because a
Starting point is 00:12:16 juliana didn't a question of a victory as I and the other men's
Starting point is 00:12:20 the category have so I don't put a juliana in
Starting point is 00:12:24 if I if I was if I was a matchmaker thinking in a I'm really a
Starting point is 00:12:32 because she's not there no there's some because she I'm
Starting point is 00:12:36 being a business would I would be that this a lot vendor
Starting point is 00:12:40 better than it's a how you think you would you think it's a lot of I'm not
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm going to not coach and then finalize I'm going to let's be she'll she will
Starting point is 00:12:50 learn that she doesn't be able to she's she said I was being trapacea and made
Starting point is 00:12:57 the world me see the world and then I don't know to call it I'll go back
Starting point is 00:13:02 really to her I want to know to all everyone that the don't the
Starting point is 00:13:05 don't of this cinturon is I the donor the don't this category is I
Starting point is 00:13:07 so I I'm going to bathe much in her. I want to humiliate her to talk to take in her. We don't have nothing to be but the end up the year but the end up
Starting point is 00:13:15 the end upcary the first year the first semester in Brazil, you would like that this other was here or you'd like to be back in her
Starting point is 00:13:23 house of her? I would like that was in the house of her. And the my defense, I would be in my case,
Starting point is 00:13:29 I'd like to the stuntural I'd like to be in the past pasto of Alcian de Pantogue and comment the duelo with
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Starting point is 00:14:47 It's a pleasure, as always, to talk to you, how is it. The expectation of, now, contact, is sennard, all finished, for this first deposes of title after some meresied as a fairies as a champion.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Once a one of the pleasure to be my, to talk to you, accompanying the career from the primordes so, it's just
Starting point is 00:15:08 it's just it's the first defense to the cinturon I'm very armadone with this experience with all
Starting point is 00:15:15 what's happening this status to be a champion this status of what I have a relevance more and
Starting point is 00:15:21 it's good to pass this for my for my companies of the people of
Starting point is 00:15:27 because I have property to say I'm not a guy that, like, like, a new
Starting point is 00:15:33 night for day, yeah, I have a story a long, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:36 so you know, the people, the people, fan, really, especially, and the people who
Starting point is 00:15:44 have been in time, know what I know what I'm talking, know, the long the long way
Starting point is 00:15:47 I per to get to this moment, and it is a good, to all of all what I
Starting point is 00:15:53 could pass, whether, whether, whether, whether, whether, or, some,
Starting point is 00:15:56 something, something of this. So I see now, getting there 6th of December, the first dispute,
Starting point is 00:16:04 the first defense of a centuron against a car that I just looked in a situation completely
Starting point is 00:16:10 controversial, I was with my joezo stored, that I had a grip
Starting point is 00:16:14 like a time, and I could get victorious the form that was a form of
Starting point is 00:16:21 a victory and now, and now, and now, and now, and now, he, after
Starting point is 00:16:28 this derrota that he He's to me, the car emballed three victories, he's beenceal for finalization, venceal for a knockout in the Mateo's Nicola, what we know, the Brazilian is, is a duro for a caramba. So, Moja, that's,
Starting point is 00:16:40 it's really, to be disputing this centuron. And, car, different to Morano, he is someone who want the centuron for the first time, he's someone who,
Starting point is 00:16:49 like I, he's, like I, who is a person who is something that's with me. So, I think that's this understanding my of all the thing is
Starting point is 00:16:59 what's happening me just a little alert for what I can't I'm sure really a
Starting point is 00:17:05 different very different for this first defense of the Cintoron for know the
Starting point is 00:17:11 person of a guy foe-e getting the title this impede that you maybe
Starting point is 00:17:16 maybe get a a little to know I'm with the right I'm
Starting point is 00:17:21 griped I'm I finalize him I'm I the champion I'm
Starting point is 00:17:26 I'm going to pass the car You just to say, you know, you're different, no, a dispute of this sunturnal. You entered with a form of different when you confronted
Starting point is 00:17:34 more than if it was a lot of any of the three-round, so that you'd enter more alert, you impede to, maybe, to be a little more tranquil, for saying that's got him to? Total, Nege. I think that this is my profile, I think it's that it's that it brought up to today,
Starting point is 00:17:51 this is that it really, to be able to the center on the ground, to have respect to my adversary firstly, I did a post even now on Instagram
Starting point is 00:18:00 talking a little about about that you know when you get a lot you're looking on an different from
Starting point is 00:18:06 there are two universes and one will get and when this person gets, various other
Starting point is 00:18:13 people are going to suffer and will feel this door so it is a
Starting point is 00:18:18 really you can't you can't a lot you have a lot there's someone
Starting point is 00:18:23 who will feel this lot. As I've been in this lot many times
Starting point is 00:18:27 I've already, I've already I've learned with the person who is the person who can
Starting point is 00:18:35 wince in a future no way you know, and not I'm not this derrota
Starting point is 00:18:40 to think that the problem was another thing was the problem was the other
Starting point is 00:18:42 person so you think the death, sentia the door really really
Starting point is 00:18:47 I think it does you have a more about this and not care
Starting point is 00:18:52 and you're going to and you're going to be, you know, and you're really, I'm preparing much, because I'm, I see this form of him that's coming, he's a little bit of a lot of new, it's a little bit attention to the UFC, with his lutas, with your performance, it's a canyot,
Starting point is 00:19:10 the auto, and, and, and, and, as a condition that I was with a jukele mached, that I was passing for problems of financial, gosh, and this me made very very
Starting point is 00:19:21 very I'm sure I'm sure the point I'm sure the point of I'm in fact the time
Starting point is 00:19:29 I'm sure that my family need to be the point and how I do you say when I did the I've done
Starting point is 00:19:36 I just appreciated for the I'm gladysed I'm obviously I want a victory but I thank I'm sure
Starting point is 00:19:41 for you're I'm trying to do you're the work I'm trying to I think the I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:19:49 about it 60%, but the momental was 120, you know? And, and, car, how I bought the rock
Starting point is 00:19:57 in the line, the films of rock I'm ensign, there's a passage of the Rock 3 that he says, I say,
Starting point is 00:20:06 the passage of Rock 3 when the Mick says to the Rock saying that he's a poor thing
Starting point is 00:20:12 that could happen to the mutator. So, I tend to not me civilized this form,
Starting point is 00:20:16 you know? And when you're when you see the champion Many things
Starting point is 00:20:19 appear in your life a bit more more than you know, but I
Starting point is 00:20:22 continue, but I continue with my foot on the thing, I think it's that it's that I'm
Starting point is 00:20:31 not possible I'm going to be the best of you know, but I will work for this
Starting point is 00:20:34 victory, I have much this understanding of all this really can't be able to
Starting point is 00:20:40 be able to I'm better than I look when I know in the book
Starting point is 00:20:45 there's when he when he He's a champion, he a star, paparicado, photos, and there's
Starting point is 00:20:51 many attractions and and you are the champion, you've got to go to, no, in the real, you have to be
Starting point is 00:20:57 to go to get to the car, there, there's all that that first to you, how, not,
Starting point is 00:21:03 not, not, not permit that this, he, poor, those two two
Starting point is 00:21:08 two months of the two years, you have to have been, you have to have the moment,
Starting point is 00:21:11 you, you, you, you, you always, you you always, you always,
Starting point is 00:21:14 you So, Belize but I'm but I'm sure that I'm sure that way I'm here
Starting point is 00:21:21 I'm in the chavis I'm going to get a car that's a poor Rennon of how it's to turn to
Starting point is 00:21:28 turn to your head to the animal never being domesticated I'm gonna I'm sure I'm very
Starting point is 00:21:37 really realista and car for being for being a piece flyweight a piece more base
Starting point is 00:21:43 a piece more there's a some people paparican but I see that it's a other form maybe if I
Starting point is 00:21:50 would be a major maybe if I'm maybe it's a bit more insubbitant would have a clamor
Starting point is 00:21:56 different but I also also a line of a line of person that I'm very centered
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm a kind of I'm a very reserved so the people understand and
Starting point is 00:22:06 and respect them and I'm this my space I'm a person I'm a
Starting point is 00:22:10 I'm a so I'm a fan feminine, the fan more hardcore, like,
Starting point is 00:22:18 know, the fact of where I'm where I'm know, you know, my children,
Starting point is 00:22:21 so it's the character, yeah, I'm, I'm thinking about this day, about this
Starting point is 00:22:26 thing, about this thing, we have a thing with a lot of a situation that no
Starting point is 00:22:33 there's a person, but you have a different with you you know, so you can be a
Starting point is 00:22:37 time, you know, that you can't fall with you know, how the you can,
Starting point is 00:22:43 a we have a line of racocino. We know what is right. We know what is right. So, I'm going to do a very simple, car. Some things, are simple things that I think make the same your thinking, you know, like, I know,
Starting point is 00:22:58 like my child, every day, I'll see a cuckoo in the show. And I think ridiculous, like, the person, it's all, with your cucko to your cichael, I do you know, and I'm like, and I'm going, and then what I'm saying, as well, you know, but I'm saying, you know, you know, there's a lot, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you can't prejudic someone in some
Starting point is 00:23:14 certain things of little things of little bit of that you're going to be taken into this attitude for you know for you
Starting point is 00:23:22 think it's a line of character of racocinio that you only you call the well you know what you should be
Starting point is 00:23:29 a situation tentator imagine when when this becomes because everyone want to call in you
Starting point is 00:23:34 know there's there there's a hemorr that gets collated to the tabarone just picking the migals
Starting point is 00:23:39 that can the box the Tubarak, it. It's been much of this. The guy that's the friend of the
Starting point is 00:23:44 first one your friend of the guy who, never did a moral, but now that's a champion that's
Starting point is 00:23:50 a champion who call on you. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:54 you know, you know, when I am the kind of, I'm a good in this moment,
Starting point is 00:24:00 you know, all this line that I have, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'm back with the family, with what really important to me really important to me,
Starting point is 00:24:08 in essence, you know, and obviously, when I'm in my intimate, it's very difficult to get in my house,
Starting point is 00:24:16 you know, so it's about about it. For certain. And for talking of the lute, yeah, we said,
Starting point is 00:24:23 you said, you're going to you've done, you're going to you're going, you're the type of lot of
Starting point is 00:24:29 your other person, you're the type of guy that makes the courtes to pass the important,
Starting point is 00:24:35 oh, he does this well, he does this well, or you will sit and, de fact,
Starting point is 00:24:38 it's video-at-draxed video of the victories of the car, the DOTs of the car, to be able to know you in first person, the lead of the adversary.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I think it's maybe 50 to 50, you see some something, I don't go be able to be obsecated on what he
Starting point is 00:24:54 does, I don't me consider a Demetro Johnson that has the potential of I don't this
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm not maybe, I'd be more, I see this little more, but I, I don't, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:07 know, not is my profile. I like to see, I know, I know, I'm going to be a
Starting point is 00:25:13 little bit of, you know, that's over the team, you know, that's not, I'm trying to play back in the guard,
Starting point is 00:25:20 is a guy that has a guillotina, a guy who has a little bit of, a cutvealb, a,
Starting point is 00:25:24 have a, coutherlele, I, have some, many, some of those many, many,
Starting point is 00:25:29 not, I'm, not assiste even the last three last three I'm a lot of determinants to understand what
Starting point is 00:25:35 what's happening but I focus much in my game too. I'm really my, my, my,
Starting point is 00:25:40 my, my, my, they're, and they're they're in practice, for me,
Starting point is 00:25:45 in the game, in a sparring, or in a manopla, like I did a car, a manopla just with an
Starting point is 00:25:52 way, that he will go to go out, the way, what the way, the way, the way,
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really, my I'm really, I'm they're going to,
Starting point is 00:26:01 they're me give the direction, and I confere really to see this
Starting point is 00:26:04 direction. I'm going to see some of the thing. I'm going to see with who
Starting point is 00:26:10 he looked with who he did the lot of them, I know, I'm really who is the
Starting point is 00:26:16 guy, I think me with who you did I know, but I, but
Starting point is 00:26:21 I don't feel much a pegato in the game of the game to know
Starting point is 00:26:27 me to know, I go much to see the my
Starting point is 00:26:31 Lutas, important you see the the car, but you see the your, you know
Starting point is 00:26:33 how you know how you're in that situation that I'm in that's my life, what I'm
Starting point is 00:26:41 could re-reve my my Luton I'm now, I don't know to see this but after
Starting point is 00:26:46 I saw one, two, three, I mean the narration in Portuguese, Vina in the narration
Starting point is 00:26:49 in English, I'm really, I'm very I'm really fan of my work too,
Starting point is 00:26:55 and I saw this this look, I thought impressionant a lot much
Starting point is 00:26:59 really really I said that my technique not came because I had moved to move but I was with I was with a
Starting point is 00:27:05 way to win that I wanted to go to see to like a time and I think a lot of a
Starting point is 00:27:11 lot of a lot of I was in a woman that he he would be going to be able to
Starting point is 00:27:17 be able to he was going to try to the way to goips to goips to be pointoing
Starting point is 00:27:25 trying to go to the end of the kids doing total difference
Starting point is 00:27:29 time certain, I think he never expected that I would do a kid so much and I'm
Starting point is 00:27:34 not I'm a brachsh in a when a time that the soco and it gave a
Starting point is 00:27:38 moment there's a point, and the did a differential very great uh uh,
Starting point is 00:27:45 uh, uh, he has a trago for me uh, a lot of trainingment
Starting point is 00:27:50 in the the, the, the, of what I have to do you do something
Starting point is 00:27:54 in certain in the many issues. Uh, And, and as Mark Ruas
Starting point is 00:28:00 I said, you know, if you so, and shoot, I'm going to get to go to
Starting point is 00:28:03 go to be back, if you get in the way, I'm in my understanding of
Starting point is 00:28:08 the two-t three, 223, to 2025, I'm in foot, if the
Starting point is 00:28:15 lot of me in par, she will continue to be able to be able to go back, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:28:20 defend, I will continue to put a porad in the way, I'm going to be put up to to do you do for much time.
Starting point is 00:28:29 He'd he'd go down to and go and go to the other and I'm my own
Starting point is 00:28:35 the worst of DeVson, which was a little bit of a victory and I'm doing my own doing it's like the
Starting point is 00:28:53 time of my adversaries, I didn't know? And, car, have done the second, I've done a training more intense
Starting point is 00:28:59 as this and I see how the grapple there has this polyvalence of you can't
Starting point is 00:29:05 bring the lot to you know, you said, you said he said the last few the last few
Starting point is 00:29:11 he was I'm not I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm I'm when you
Starting point is 00:29:17 when you had been to get to him he had been a typical because he came out of
Starting point is 00:29:23 he got he tore the he stole the he stole the he he didn't he And then, you finalized
Starting point is 00:29:28 he, and then he got him, the Roger Lottino, the Nottel, and the Nicolau. It was the real, I think was the
Starting point is 00:29:37 was a disavid, I don't know, I don't know if was this, the Luton of Roger, or it was a other situation of that was
Starting point is 00:29:44 a nitty of Roger and I think they were for the anniversary, maybe it's maybe has been in this, or with the
Starting point is 00:29:49 Tienelit, I don't remember what was. Ah, no, the Tienerioch, he finalized. No, no,
Starting point is 00:29:54 no, the, When he luted with the team well I mean I'm saying I'll end up he'll He'll call to the chinel And then he'll caughtio So he's not going to mercee
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah So after you got him You know, you know, you Did he did all this You're surprised That he had He'd have succeeded He'd have finished
Starting point is 00:30:14 Finalize the meshneal Nocautia Norikol Pern what you saw He knew of him Before you've He never No surprise
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's not It's clear that The victory that he He was a victory that I think I, I and you, as you know, we know the potential
Starting point is 00:30:29 of Mattel's, you know, he has been much more more than he could be done to the Matthews Nikol
Starting point is 00:30:35 and it's not me would be surprised me, I'm surprised a little the form that was,
Starting point is 00:30:40 a joelada that's a realy little bit limpa there, but, I know,
Starting point is 00:30:46 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:30:49 how I'm the brand rival is good, and I know this, a, a story
Starting point is 00:30:54 the guy interesting that I have with a lot of my friend my brother of my mom and some some,
Starting point is 00:30:59 almost years I'm going in the FC he said he said he said he said he's he's a
Starting point is 00:31:06 guy, there's a guy, he is a lot he's not he's looking he's good Jiuits good of
Starting point is 00:31:10 porrada and he he remember and this was in my case when I went to
Starting point is 00:31:14 when I'm going to when I'm very very very came because he he's talking this car
Starting point is 00:31:20 with him and now I'm all this coincidences and you remember When you, when you
Starting point is 00:31:26 When you see the video He said, oh, remember something? I think that your co-in-lawed. Ah, no, I think, like, I'm a fan
Starting point is 00:31:33 like, my coni-law, he saw a man, a little bit of a talent, a talent, a talent,
Starting point is 00:31:38 is that, that the guy will dispute the trotoron with me, and maybe the style
Starting point is 00:31:43 of the kind of to go to the time, a thing really, the transitions of Branoeval
Starting point is 00:31:46 are very rapid, the, what differ is really that he's he's , he goes
Starting point is 00:31:51 to do some some spiniel, more more compridden I have
Starting point is 00:31:58 a style of lot I think very very proper I think it's clear that there's a
Starting point is 00:32:03 technique but I think this my style kind of kind of kind of I know
Starting point is 00:32:08 I'm going to take a but I know a lot a lot more a style
Starting point is 00:32:13 a particular yeah a something my kind of I'm I think
Starting point is 00:32:18 I I say when I when I when I I'm really I feel like
Starting point is 00:32:25 I feel a liberty I'm a great of a little bit of I'm in there's a dogton of
Starting point is 00:32:32 a lot of the lot of you a doctor super well I'm a so I know that I know a
Starting point is 00:32:38 interview at any moment I know a commission medical for an for enter and do
Starting point is 00:32:43 any of any I'm not me da fear and me I'm a
Starting point is 00:32:47 great I can I can't do I can't do all 100% there
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm, everything, all my training, all I can go to work because when I don't training with my
Starting point is 00:32:58 partner, with my partner, I don't I can't be 100%, no exist this. And I'm not
Starting point is 00:33:05 a lot of so I'm, it's a my side of animal, it's all that I'm important,
Starting point is 00:33:10 just that me important, so I'm so, you know, I love much to live this, and it's
Starting point is 00:33:17 a little more of two months in the but how you you're feeling when you're
Starting point is 00:33:21 when you're starting to have the camp for this this Lutte? You finalize
Starting point is 00:33:24 it you know it's like it's like it's like it like it's a lot of
Starting point is 00:33:30 a year like you can't see by my words you know I'm at I'm at
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm a lot of I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna go to be
Starting point is 00:33:42 to my academy I feel I'm gonna I'm I'm I'm a I'm
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm a champion I'm a I'm a time time I'm I'm really I'm
Starting point is 00:33:50 so All my training that I do is very intense, I'm, so, like I said, I'm 45 days of about, more than the most of the most, that I've got, total,
Starting point is 00:33:59 to the academy, after the fairies in Brazil, and all the day, on the day of today, I'm feeling completely 100% of work, integrated to the trains and all,
Starting point is 00:34:10 me, I'm feeling prepared to do sparr, encounter any, in my academy. I don't want to say that I'm going to wince
Starting point is 00:34:15 them, but, but I'm, who I'm Urigua, Adriano Morais, Paul, Maced, I know,
Starting point is 00:34:21 I know, I know, are very difficult, I think to be a level even more to be able to get to be able
Starting point is 00:34:31 my friends, my friends are my friends with they're not so prepared, you know, so, man,
Starting point is 00:34:37 two months for the lute, I have a really, very, I'm very, so I'm very very happy
Starting point is 00:34:41 with this, that I have a time to do this, and I have a resource to put to the
Starting point is 00:34:45 better, I have, I have, some, I can, I'm very very happy, I'm a
Starting point is 00:34:52 only other I'm going to before I'm going to before a champion that I train in an academy with air-condionate with the
Starting point is 00:34:58 many other with the besters with the players of training. So, oh, man, I'm very focused.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I know of my moment, I'm doing what I know what I'm doing, the point that will be a divisor
Starting point is 00:35:09 to me, really now, this luta will be a divisor to me, for my family,
Starting point is 00:35:14 now, now I'm, I'm, I'm morde that's that little that's bicoit-o
Starting point is 00:35:17 of Paperview, you know, so I know, so I'm sure, you know, and as I'm talking
Starting point is 00:35:23 before I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:35:31 I'm able to be able to my name in a national for ever, you know, get fixed,
Starting point is 00:35:36 who was Alexander Pantoja, not so for the MMA national, but for MMA national, but for MNNNN
Starting point is 00:35:41 I think, I think, I have much this want to that you're with the KVSI, now,
Starting point is 00:35:47 has a percentuals in the Pergill to gain, poe, it's excellent, you're going to do this one the moment event of the Lionel with a cold
Starting point is 00:35:54 my card is a irate is irate yeah, yeah, but all the every person every person
Starting point is 00:35:58 every person I'm saying, oh, I'm sorry, there's a public, there's a guy very polarizant
Starting point is 00:36:05 yeah, who will have been the pet there's a there in the England so,
Starting point is 00:36:09 it's a new, there's a new little bit of the real Elersson too
Starting point is 00:36:14 another other champion of Vicet Luke with Ian Gary, who is a Yirnese, who's doing very loud, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:19 The Fergson, so, so, so, you know, Marradoran, feel as for this opportunity,
Starting point is 00:36:25 I think I really did for merce. My family did for mehese. But it's like I'm a guy, very focused,
Starting point is 00:36:34 you know, now I have a line there for me and this line is 16 December, just me invite to do something
Starting point is 00:36:41 to do something because really I'm going to be very focused to wince to make, you know, for merce, really,
Starting point is 00:36:47 you know? I think the goal is that he's a defaferal, I'm saying very, and in the same arena,
Starting point is 00:36:56 yeah, car, it was the team mobile, in the arena where I was the team mobile, and I'm going to go back,
Starting point is 00:37:02 with my second parintes, the Leonardo, the Colmicovton, who was your company of team, how is the
Starting point is 00:37:11 relation with him, how is the relationship with him, You have always that thing of his versus the
Starting point is 00:37:17 Brazil and all the kind of a little bit of him, how is part of the team he's not
Starting point is 00:37:25 in the team, he's in the English, I think he is more one of these people who
Starting point is 00:37:31 made him, the fame, or something to make in your character not, the character not is
Starting point is 00:37:37 not not so some some way could disviar but he made
Starting point is 00:37:41 this this scenario of that he He gained a visibility, saying the mal of the
Starting point is 00:37:46 country, so he continued with this, and he's very with this, I think a guy out of
Starting point is 00:37:51 America Top Team not is a good thing, respect to the other teams, I don't do other
Starting point is 00:37:57 teams, but all the teams that I did, the best, the best, the American Top Team,
Starting point is 00:38:03 I received a structure very great, the the partners of training are very good, this energy
Starting point is 00:38:08 to have a champion there, is very good to be a champion I just did the Cigano, and the Cigano always,
Starting point is 00:38:15 for me, it's one of the great champions that we've had been, I've seen, I was in the Baja, in this moment. I never will me forgetseer this, that's, I respect me much this moment, and then, I really, you know, but I think the Cobra Coveme
Starting point is 00:38:29 Cove, no, no, went to be this, he not went to be just more one training, you, you know? And he could be the center attention and all, and there, he not would be, you know, because there really, I really, I really, I see this, and the
Starting point is 00:38:40 D'Lamborch, who is the don't the America Top Team. He conversed much more with Parhumpa than Pahumpur than he's always expone
Starting point is 00:38:47 this to me he says, how do you know, how do I'm always able to train with my pastures of my
Starting point is 00:38:54 pastures of I'm going to help herrison that she will do the dispute and, it was irate the training,
Starting point is 00:39:01 you know, you know, I like I know all all the world because I receive a much help,
Starting point is 00:39:06 so I'm not the point that he says more of the man, he's almost, He was very emotional when you when you got won't
Starting point is 00:39:11 because you're doing, because you do you dedicate to your partners of the team, and the Colbecon not can't this, I think he
Starting point is 00:39:19 wants to be the center of the time for the time total, and in America Top Team, I think that this would be possible
Starting point is 00:39:25 and there, him, everyone who wants to get to make him there, I don't know, I'm gonna be
Starting point is 00:39:31 my way, he says, it's pure marketing, he worked with Gabriel De Olivera, yeah, and the
Starting point is 00:39:39 Gabriel, po, is a guy that I'm a man, he said, he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:39:43 so, for me, he's got a a point, he's a point favorable. If you try to
Starting point is 00:39:47 someone that I watch well, I can't be like to be legal with you know. But,
Starting point is 00:39:54 but it's it, he moved to the team where he thinks he's, he's, sending those attentions,
Starting point is 00:39:58 but I think MMA not about it is over it and we're trying to there, we're a
Starting point is 00:40:04 structure much great, there's a place, when you're the type of kind of to be a
Starting point is 00:40:08 type of I'm not question no, I'm sure, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'm, I'm, It's no jant-on-time to talk to the other. There's a-annibal passing on the cell side, you don't know,
Starting point is 00:40:21 he's not going to be weird, legal, mannero, mann't. But, po, I respect him
Starting point is 00:40:27 as a clitor, but, in a certain form, I'm more more connected with Lill-Ey through the
Starting point is 00:40:32 story of his and all the story of his all the way, he did he would be like to put a hand,
Starting point is 00:40:39 bar, to say, poor, blah, blah, I'm a big fan of your job,
Starting point is 00:40:43 so, I'm a lot of a churrah, we don't say nothing, let's see you pass a batheed. With you know, you know, you know, one of the guys
Starting point is 00:40:51 intelligent, like, who goes to see, to listen, and he's, but he's questionable, so, the more number of the story of
Starting point is 00:40:58 this division, for the long, Renado that he had been, he's an person to, the guy
Starting point is 00:41:03 who could do you do do this one want to do do this, man, he's trying to try for 10, once in
Starting point is 00:41:08 years, he, he broke, the RANson Syil, of DeV, how is the figure,
Starting point is 00:41:12 the figure of you're going to be like to I'm going to I'm going to want to I'm trying to make really the name, that my name I'm taking place to call it, I'm going to call out of him, I'm going to be able to him, I'm not, you know, I'm going to be a lot of people, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to be a lot of keep, not not only in the lute, but we
Starting point is 00:41:43 talk much porrada in the academy, so I'm a man who's a realtor, my best Albert Reyes, there's a row of
Starting point is 00:41:49 Cabo, me would have to do the seminars in all the teams of the leagues of the Lagoes,
Starting point is 00:41:53 so I took a people, so I'm more than I, and I'm too, but I'm
Starting point is 00:41:58 really I want to appreciate this moment, it's a moment to show my art, you know, where we're
Starting point is 00:42:05 where we're where we're the debate Johnson, the long reenado oh, no,
Starting point is 00:42:09 perfect, perfect, you know, is a guy I'd like I'd like really to look with him
Starting point is 00:42:14 if not I'd that I'm going to more to be able to be able to you know
Starting point is 00:42:19 would be a privilege really great a guy I'm a person who a man who opened the
Starting point is 00:42:25 people who know, but it's that I think after the last I'm he to call him to a porra
Starting point is 00:42:31 but no no, really I don't want me to say that one day I will
Starting point is 00:42:37 get to my pretenation really is that the signetron for about five times, so, if the world
Starting point is 00:42:44 want to conspired, he'll walk to the F.C., and then we'll do this lot of this would be the maximum,
Starting point is 00:42:50 like, would be a lot of the story he did, and a other lot of things that people,
Starting point is 00:42:57 it's being in the other other, there's a trototot a kid, the champion Pizugal of FECC
Starting point is 00:43:02 over the title, fatis to the thing, how it's, man, man, very,
Starting point is 00:43:08 very, so, what is you're like, because it's like I'm like the coincidence I'm really
Starting point is 00:43:11 the same thing, the coincidence is really the way, the same that I'm in a lot of a year, oh,
Starting point is 00:43:17 six years ago, I'd be a champion and he would be a champion and he would be able and it's a man who really
Starting point is 00:43:23 really roll up man, what I can't say, when it happened when he happened to him,
Starting point is 00:43:27 he had been really the first of the training, and he had some man gringo, he said,
Starting point is 00:43:35 he said, he said, he said, he said, and I didn't talk He said, he said, po, he said, he said he said, he made him, then
Starting point is 00:43:40 he said, he said, because he filmed, because he filmed, because he didn't, he, he didn't have said, oh, there's a video. It's, it's... It's funny, because he morded the iceka, right, car. All the times that I saw him
Starting point is 00:43:52 about me, I see a car co-ado, saying, me a little, like, my balladown, you know, Guy, porra, as I'm, like, as I'm, like, carioca, da Gema, bar, if the guy
Starting point is 00:44:02 of the category of base says to me, I'll say, if you were, I'd say, no, I'd say, Like, like the Ascarov
Starting point is 00:44:09 I made a message to, put a message there in one of my photos, said, I thought,
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'm back in saying, I'm back on, where, bro, you're not man, but I'm
Starting point is 00:44:18 saying, him, let's say, say, he's a malucco, he's, he should be
Starting point is 00:44:23 a same thing with me, but the guy morded a iske, he saw, and I saw,
Starting point is 00:44:28 he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he gave, the,
Starting point is 00:44:31 he did the , so I continue and embalando. What what happened was really that I came to work with a R.C. R.C. R.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He said to me, I can't do I'm, I said, but I'm, because for me me, it's car. He came to a
Starting point is 00:44:47 man. He was a mann't. He came to a manchewed. He said, I can't grab. I'm, and then I'm
Starting point is 00:44:52 never made. And never made him, really. He left athrasse. And now he's he kissed plant to Gallo who had batted
Starting point is 00:45:00 in a moleck of the FC. before to get on and now he is the champion of the FEC, and I can
Starting point is 00:45:05 say that I batting to a bento weight, you know, I'm trumbo trocado as,
Starting point is 00:45:10 as you know, I'm saying a way, the fentissu over the fentice, this is very really strong,
Starting point is 00:45:15 brother, but it's that, but, but, but, if it was a motive
Starting point is 00:45:20 for I would be to be a category, it really really for this guy, not I'm
Starting point is 00:45:23 a flyweight great, I'm a man that I'm a man I'm keep
Starting point is 00:45:27 a lot, I'm He'd be be 20 pounds Acimed to me and look I'm I'm long
Starting point is 00:45:34 in my category but it's interesting to do this look because I think I'm I believe I'm going to
Starting point is 00:45:42 get a lot that would if you're champions yeah you're going to exactly he's got
Starting point is 00:45:46 he's not he never he's he's a tito vera and maybe the marab if it's
Starting point is 00:45:53 if it's for for to happen I think I think if if God think he's
Starting point is 00:45:56 if God think he will be It will happen, but I think it's just, let's the hand of the Lord. Now, I really have a anniversary very hard in a front,
Starting point is 00:46:06 it's a cano-al-al- like he, like I'm preparing to see. Exactly, that's right. The same is. A's your version of 2023, contra-version of
Starting point is 00:46:16 2003 of him. How is that? A evolution very great, not both, not of one, and the evolution of his,
Starting point is 00:46:23 strong-dose, we can't say that he did he put him, I think he did, but, so of not be knocked-ed-
Starting point is 00:46:30 or even upon a made a one, a know, the plighter yeah is
Starting point is 00:46:37 a great fact, now you don't say that the guy is fake and then and then
Starting point is 00:46:42 then I'm knockoutial Al Jemen that, no, my point, Al Jemme did a
Starting point is 00:46:46 moly too, was of the face of his I think was with a lot,
Starting point is 00:46:50 but really you don't say that the guy not is a guy that is a
Starting point is 00:46:55 man who turned the person the part, But, for other You know, really you see the
Starting point is 00:47:00 evolution, the intendment of the Lutton in this Loretna, the Moreno, was a much prepared to me to wince,
Starting point is 00:47:07 you know, I have a total notion of this, and I've seen the lot of how I was prepared to do that that was going to
Starting point is 00:47:14 be able to me beat in somebody who had been someone, I've been when I when I said,
Starting point is 00:47:21 when I'm to America of Top Team I've seen to America of Top Team, I understood to America Top Team, I understood
Starting point is 00:47:26 that I could be really the champion of the FC until to get here I
Starting point is 00:47:30 know, I know that's but after the training that I did I know that I would be in
Starting point is 00:47:35 a little and I really I really think I'm in I'm in a level very high. If you
Starting point is 00:47:43 if you would be a rebel would be a repeteco you have the lot against
Starting point is 00:47:48 the Bruno Morian who you just you got two times now the roival
Starting point is 00:47:53 you got got a one and you've to do the second, and the channel Malik, is a guy that you just had in the academy. Yeah, it's a...
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah, it's the same thing. You're going to... Yeah, it's a little bit to do you. Manor, Camer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Always, good.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, but... Always, man. I'm going to talk to you. Always. So, man, it's... It's our... It's our... We're not...
Starting point is 00:48:18 We're going to... ...citeeempsed much the ... I'm not saying to make sure to hear of the Alistaird-Octo and the
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