MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Michel Pereira Quer Trocar Tapa Com Nate Diaz, Analisa Durinho x Chimaev
Episode Date: March 2, 2022O Paraense Voador pousa no Trocação Franca dessa semana. Em um longo e descontraído bate-papo, Michel Pereira conta como se tornou um lutador eficiente sem deixar a irreverência de lado morando em... Las Vegas, onde brilha nas mesas de pôquer. O lutador admite que ficou surpreso com o último adversário, o português André Fialho, e revela quando deve lutar novamente, torcendo para ter a chance de trocar tapas com Nate Diaz um dia. Michel analisa, ainda, o duelo Gilbert Durinho x Khamzat Chimaev, e explica a insana ideia de viajar de carro de Las Vegas até o Pará. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC welterweight Michel Pereira stops by Trocação Franca to explain how he became a threat to the division while still entertaining in his own way, and how living in Las Vegas helped him achieve that — and earn some dollars playing poker. Pereira also breaks down his recent win over Andre Fialho, reveals when he should be back inside the octagon, and explains why he would love to exchange slaps with Nate Diaz, discusses the rise of Khamzat Chimaev and his upcoming bout with Gilbert Burns, and his insane idea for a Vegas-Brazil road trip. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trocaation Franca,
and representing the M.M.A.
Fighting in Brazil,
Guillermo!
Hello, Lomboe, fan of Lutta,
well,
on 26th of episode of the podcast,
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in this immense polar sphere.
I'm Gryglox,
correspondent of the site American
MMIFile in Brazil,
I'm back in this quarter
Friday,
on the company of Michelle Pereira,
one of the shooters
of the most impugantes
of the UFC in the actuality.
It's part of the end up
after a carnaval,
which was a little different
than we're used to,
but Saturday,
but a event numberated in the UFC,
and nothing better than a
little bit of Paranese,
the voodor, the Ombuds
to the Ombuds, to Rite,
to T, T, you'll get there.
The other side of the line
now we have Michel Pereer
that in the day 22
January,
implacu, a quarter
victory in the FC,
Ghana, DeC,
Ganda Descuh,
and DECION,
the Portuguese,
Andrea Fiario.
All right,
my friend,
my friend,
my friend,
welcome,
I'm a pleasure
to be here,
it's a honor
to be able to
try a idea
with you,
we're going to
go to be
a new
our conversation
here,
chama.
Just to
start to
talk about,
we're talking about
talking about,
we're talking about,
you're talking,
you're the
first, you're
with the
good,
the world,
of the sun,
you've
you,
you've been
a house
in Vegas,
are monta
your
studio,
what you
have in
mind with
this par-
par-fernalia
all there?
Yeah,
I,
I have a microphone
good, I have a camera
good, I have a
illumination,
but it's like
like I said,
I've got to
buy a house
and I'm not
not able to
get all right,
I'm not,
I'm just doing
it, so you know,
reforming it,
so you know,
reformed of
house,
it's always
it's always
we're going to
make this
interview,
so Philet.
With what
how is going
this life
in Vegas?
You're,
you're trying
to be
a time with
Rafael
Rarrar,
you're with
a team
good
in Vegas
and
Now, of, of,
house-proped,
how is it
is a new
new career,
this new moment,
embarking of
a vez,
and mergling
in this world
of the FC,
that's
in Las Vegas, is
probably in
the UFC,
you know,
car, you
need to
get a
hand,
it's just
to get a
in the UFC
Ipex?
Here,
I'm more,
the 4
minute of
the EPX
here,
the academy
of the FC,
so it's
it's very
close to
me to
me trainer.
Las Vegas
is being
an experience
awesome.
I like
much here.
It's a
first time that I
knew the first time
I'm going to
work.
And it's like
you said,
here we're in
the FC,
here we're the
house of the
F.C.
So, this is
very good for my
career, for
my life,
I see things
here that I
don't see
in other
other place of
the world,
so it's
just a
thing.
You,
before,
would,
you were,
you were in
the north of
Brazil?
How is
your
life
before
of
establish
residence in
Vegas?
It was
I was
I'm in
South of
Paras
and then
to the
all the
more complicated
structure
for the
we're more
complicated.
Here in
Las Vegas
not here
I have
everything
I need a
structure that I
need
I have a
some
people
to trainers
some
people
to train
but I
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
contract
and
I'm
so here
it's
very good
to me
to me
live
everything is very good for me.
You think that this
explains,
justifies this
this is the excellent
phase that you're
living now in the UFC,
these four victories
is also for
being a life
more focused on the
life more than
in Vegas,
mergulated in this
universe?
Yes,
and all this
is a dedication
that I have
a focus I have
what is,
is to bring
who I need,
to make a
investment
that for
I'm trying
a camp
good,
like I
have my
camp past
and here
I have my
preparado
office who
who's a
little bit
the
Richard
who train
with me
and the
other
who don't
train them
I bring
the war
I brought the
war
there's the
there's the
south of
the south of
Parer and
then we
go and
we're making
a camp
backana
because I
don't
so much
to train
in a
team
great
I love
to have
my
team
there
and the
team, focus on me, and
it's doing right, you see that I
'm getting very well prepared in the lot,
and it's very good,
this form that I'm doing.
What do you prefer this style of training,
than do you,
do you, do you, do you
have part of a great team? You've just made
part of a great team? Why don't you
did this, this
style of training different?
Ah, it's simple,
yeah? Quote, more
the more of the more problem, my
and this is like, you're more
money, the more of the more, better.
and the team is the
same thing you imagine a lot of
of the head there in problem
MBO and here
no, with my team
a few fechadina
I'm the head of the team
and I can't
organize all the world
of my way
so it's less problem for me
and I can't
I can't
have just the people
that I want to be
the people that I'm
not a team great not
when I've been training in a
team
grand,
then there's
that I don't
go to him
a guy that I'm
not a guy who
not a guy who
not a lot,
not a
kind of a
kind of
end up in the
training.
So,
for that I
love to
my team,
my team,
that I just
call who I
want to be
to be the
side,
and we're,
we are very
animated,
are very,
so the
our energy
in the
time of the
training is
very good.
So,
if there
a person
that I don't
go,
can be
is, and it's
I'm going to
it in the
train.
So,
for that I
go out of
my team.
And how
it was the
adaptation
to more
in Vegas
compared to
Paras?
It's completely
different,
not the
are two
universes
completely
opposed,
the view in
Paras
and the
life in
Las Vegas.
Yeah,
one of the
things is
the structure
that I have
that I have
that I
have,
that all
it's much
more
more easy,
it's not
it's a
more, it
more,
it's more
it's more
it's
more difficult
It's more simple,
so,
let's say
like I'm
here,
four,
five minutes
of the PIA
here,
so it's
it becomes more
more easy for
me.
Then let me say
the academy
that I train in
LVIC.
There's seven
academies,
topissima,
grand,
to me train.
So,
the structure that
I have here
all can be
more easy
for me.
Then it's
just I'm
just to
the
guy,
and
I'm,
as I
I bought house here in Las Vegas.
So when I
brought up to pay a hotel,
no need to be in a hotel, no
need these things.
So, all,
it's getting more easy,
getting better for us
making better to make
what should be made.
And we,
we hear much,
that Las Vegas is a perjohn
for who has a
bad idea of
how it was the
first time in Vegas?
Now you're
now you're used to
know, but how
it was the first
time you came in Vegas,
those luses, casino,
the jogatina and all
how is the experience
of being in this
place? It's like,
if you want to
here, there's a wonder
to bring a million
to dole for you
to get here,
you can't do that
you can't,
but if you
want a pais,
also I
go so I'm really
of this.
When I'm
I'm in fairies
I do what I
do, I want
here,
there's the
party,
there's some
many people
like here
that we can
we bring,
I like,
but when I
I'm at the time
of my time
camp,
that is the focus
total, I
don't go to
these places,
I'm going to
go to this
place, but
I'm just
training and
we'll say
food,
there's a
quarter type of
food,
so I
want a
churrascaria
Brazilian,
if I
want a
Chinese, if I
think the
good news,
you know,
you're going
to do
a thing,
you're doing
a
good,
when you're
when you
is long of
all the
end of the
world,
that's in my
city,
Tukumann,
just have more
one city to
gore,
it's just
a matter,
my friend,
you know?
So,
you want to
go to be in a
shop,
and you can't
come,
you want to
a food,
you know,
for this I think,
I'm not,
because I
know I'm here,
I'm going to
move here,
it's like
not people
and say,
ah,
the States
United is
a man,
so, my
man,
then,
go,
to me say that here is
a real.
What the devil
he wants to
where do you
know how do you
get to be the
way of the
way to get to
the same
to the mat
to the tucumann
is in a
middle of
Las Vegas
and making the
fissing and
post the
money.
Yeah,
now I'm
there's some
some friends
here that we
have some
I'm playing
and then
I'm trying
and I'm
getting a
some games
so a
game game
so it
a
a game
that I
I like,
that's the poker,
and to
be to
be a
very,
not so,
the poker
for me,
it's not
just to
gain the
money,
I'm just
I'm just
jog, and
I'm having,
and then,
who is
professional
most,
you know,
I'm not,
I'm just,
I'm,
playing,
and,
and I'm,
playing,
it's just
day,
but I
go to
play there,
in the
area,
and I
started
and I
started
good,
I,
I'm,
I'm
having to
be able,
to tarabon
even,
I,
I said, bitch,
I'm, oh, I'm trying, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get back,
but I don't know, what I'm going to, because it's just I'm going to
a thing, I already, I've got to do with the American,
hey, let's take one here, and I'll see what, and that one, and then,
the train was getting a lot, and when I had already, the man,
the middle of the men of the mesa, and then, and then the American
rat had in our own, there, bring in, and so, poor, for me, it's more
this,
more
more diversion.
Of course,
there are some
some guys who
can't get
to get a
money,
I'm more
then you're
back, you're
know,
I'm sure,
I'm more
kind of, I think
more retentate
I think, I
think the
people, you know,
I'm doing,
when I'm not
I'm not to,
I'm not gonna,
I'm gonna,
then I think,
then,
when it's a
lot,
yeah,
what was the
best job,
this,
the,
the best,
the best,
this,
this,
this,
this,
this,
it's because when I'm
a bit of a
time,
then I'm going to
talk about
in the game,
our game
the game
muds,
so many times
I'm going to
all in
all the shacks,
this a man
is a boy
is this vagaboon
is robin
and then
my man
I'm,
I'm trying
when I'm
I'm with
I'm just
the filet
and it
seems to
my side
man,
but I'm
just to come
one,
but I'm
I'm just
lastk
then I
I'm
I'm trapped
and the train
influe
even more now that I'm
to be a fairer,
right?
You're good
to blefar
or you're not
in a word
I'm very
good.
I'm very
good.
When I'm
trying to
get a guy
and I'm going to
pay that I
think that
baby is
just robbing
no,
then the
negro
enters
and you're
a lager.
What was
the
night that
you've been
out of
carcinary
with how
you got
you got in
a mess
to get in
it?
posted a video on Instagram.
It was a game that was
a friend who organized,
there was a little
in Belage, there was a mess for us.
And then it was just the
people. Nobody from
was there was only the
game. Because we always
a little kid in a car, with a churrasquist, an
a little bit of the
friends. And then he
did this game, no, Belage.
And then, my
man, I'm, I'm going,
I just, I'm, I'm, I'm
started, you know, because
it was a good, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm good
I'm good
I'm
my
man man
my man
man
and jogging
I'm running
I'm
a head
$1,000
psalm
I'm
I'm sorry
I'm
I'm sure
I'm
I'm gonna
I'm
when I'm
man I'm
I'm
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
hotchian
in time
real
now
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
back over
mutt over
man
when I'm
when I
saw
I was
the
man the
And then,
trawada
in that
diversion,
that's
that really
good-tos
my friends
are very nice
and then
I got
I got in
it was
almost four
million dollars
$3,700
dollars.
I gained,
yeah?
I lizee
the guy
and,
I'm a champion
for the
guy who
got got
the money
in this
day.
The churrache
the next
for your
count
then,
but it's
good
Dime,
Mous.
The
our
our thing is
a matter of
a lot of
it's a
little,
I'm going to
play in Vegas,
I'm going to
go to go to
get to do that
not.
No,
no,
don't do that
not,
no,
because I
don't know,
I'm going to
do that,
and just
do it to
me.
And,
talking to
this,
you're in this
moment
illuminated,
and you're in
this,
you're in
the FC,
are,
oh,
it's,
better,
it's,
better than,
yeah,
the
the last
the
last,
Fialo, that
came out
in the same
the hour
and he's
a bit of
this oboe
the same
man,
man, man,
well,
that's a
good,
he knew
because I'm
a lot of
the other
events,
but the
man did the
job,
before the
after this
lot of the
last time of
the other
he said,
he said,
ta,
porre,
what the
jab is this
this guy is
me,
this jab
here,
this bitch,
where this
man,
this jeb,
moose,
was jab,
view,
jab,
yeah,
yeah,
gu'
gu'ed,
yeah,
that when the train's-z-aw, I, I,
"'Nobro my nose, I thought
"'I had kebred my nose.
"'I, I'd have been,
"'and I'd have gone down,
"'and I, I said,
"'Ag, now, moyo.
"'And then it's the first round.
"'And, as I, Marim,
"'and, how, fum,
"'Arde, the train arde,
"'moio, I, for you.
"'And, as, as,
"'and, as I was very well,
"'trained, yeah,
"'enged, I'm,
"'chamey, I'm,
I activated
online there, and then
it was all right, but the first round,
because I wanted to see what he had,
what he, what he,
what this guy came,
what he wants, how he can
look, how he wants, I want to be
how he's it, because the first round,
it's the round more perigoso,
that the two are tense,
I'm too, he's, he's,
he's, he's, nobody knows one other,
but the first round
was better, for me, grand.
Not what,
is like,
he is
better than I,
I went,
I went to
see what he was,
and then he
he made,
he went to be
my man,
when I went,
if I was going to
be able,
he'll get him
and he's just
the fieler.
Was,
was more than you
was the other
thing?
It was,
was,
I,
was, I,
no,
I don't,
I don't,
I'm,
I'm,
I don't,
I'm,
I'm,
but before
the second
to the second
to the second row
to the
I,
I just
I actually more
tranquil.
That then I
just activated
more I
did more
I'm doing
and I
saw that he
not was
not he
not he
in the rest of
the lutta
you have
some more
the characteristics
of a
part of a
lot of
so I think
maybe
maybe
had
had felted
this
in the
first round
for you
are studying
for you
not inventing
these
piruetas
these
these gops
more
two?
Yes,
if I
if I come up,
if I
start my
first round
as I
was in the
second
to the first
round,
but I would
get a
strategy not
this,
my strategy.
I want to
see what he
has,
I want to
see the
physical
of his physical
of his
so my
friend,
then we
see who is
who is
who is
my man,
I saw
that I
know,
but I'm
God-D
was very
very well
trained
and it
was
so the
Ville.
How is you
med to
feel like the
best moment
to old
to use
the same
a thing
a little bit of
a poise
a guiseada
a piruette
how is
how is it
now?
A part of
now it
is a
time it's
the first
round
I was
I said
I'm
I have to
me
I have to
me
get to
if I
think if I
he gets
he can
he can't
I can't
vacill
because the
first
round
was a
a trance, a very fake, I peake.
So, if the second round and
the third, it's
kind of,
so I'm going to focus
in gain, that I'm
going to end up. I'm trying to
enter in rank. I'm trying to enter in the rank.
So, let's focus here,
make
my, my own, and
focus more in the result, because I
can't lose this lot.
So I went in this line.
I said, I per die the first.
So now, now I have to gain
this second and this,
So, for that I didn't
because I had to recuperate
this atrazement.
And then I, with a naris
storated, my brother,
I'm, I'm,
I'm going to be
a trapoling,
will me prejudicca,
in my gas,
in my physical,
I'm very well
trained, but
it's not
not able to
get a right?
To make a
respiration,
it's a great
will be a
un-traplied,
so I prefer to
play there,
more to
gain,
than to do
do you,
to do it,
and I'm
to be fair in some
moments
it was before
in your career
or so when you
entered in the
UFC,
it was to
see that
do you
do the show,
to do you
was at least
was at least
was the
more important
you know,
you think
this moment
you live today
of four
victory and
is true
you're fruit
of you
you turn this
chavit
I have like
I have to
do show
I have to
do performance
different
but I
need to
I need to
go to
to get
close to the
centuron,
that is my
dream
to be a
dream of the
future.
There's
this moment,
this
dirad,
this time?
Yeah,
of the
people,
not,
are coming
to get to
get to
get an
more,
we're
lot with
a
man,
so we
don't,
not that
I'm,
not that I
will be
going to
continue to
doing,
but I
have been
to be
not,
it's
no possible,
I don't
can get
there and
make the
loco,
that not
so,
it's a
way,
it's a lot,
The guy
is trying
to run my
head to
I have
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going
like the way
the way that
this bitch
is like I'm
not to be
being being
being a
other patam
other guys
these guys are
very good
my category
not a
play
a great
just car
good
yeah
even more
in the
top 15
only
so car
good
and I
have to
enter
in rank
I'm
I'm
I'm back
I'm
I'm not
I'm
so I'm
going
conform
it's
you know,
you
see a
a form
how you're
going to
when you
went to the
first you
know,
that first
particular,
you know,
everyone
got a lotuco,
then in the
last time,
you got
can't be
getting,
and all the
man,
he's not
of a
a guy,
he's a
man,
he's,
that's,
so,
are things
that you
know,
you,
you're
that you
used,
to,
you,
to go to
after the
F.C.
But you
think
now,
you
have more respect
of the fans
that don't you
see in
just like
this guy
is like a
attraction,
like the
man is a
different,
but never
will be
someone
in serious
in the
defensive.
You think
it's
the way
how they
have been
too.
Yes,
yes,
and then
today,
it's a
God,
we're a
person
there's
the people,
that the
people
of the
people who
people do
because they
see
that I
don't know
that I
don't do
show,
or a
a show,
or
be a
guy
of result,
I will be
I can
put to
any of my
category,
that if I
go to
look to
the result
I will
I will
go to be
I'm very
and I
do you're
so much
for what
I do
do you
know, who
I'm very
that I'm
dedicated
in the time
of my
camp
for
so that
when I'm
not the
man you
don't know
I'm
I'm
Michael,
no I'm
I'm
no I'm
my
friend
you can
see how my
life you
So,
I'm a
guy very
focused on what I
when I'm
preparing, I'm
very focused.
And this
is making I
be a champion
to have
results positive.
And with
this I'm
getting more
the confidence
of the fans
that in the
first they
had,
but I
came back
with that
lot with
Chris Collin,
I think is
that is the
name,
that I
did a lot
a
on the
cause of a
tirade of
a piece
what happened
what happened
did I
cancea
that way
I'm
not because
I did my
things
I'm in the
cause of my
time I'm
trying to
so I'm
doing to love
to the
people who
I'm a
good, that
I'm a
very good, that
I have
a quay
of a
lot of
and this
the guy
I'm
I'm
still trying
to
get a
guy
the other
I'm
you know
that's the
thing you
didn't
that was
an
idea
was an
how she was,
he perceived,
he was,
he was getting
wrong for
him and not
he didn't
want to
get to
that's
I consider
like a
victory,
but beleas,
I gained
much more
that way,
it's even
incredible this,
I gained
much more
that way,
happening
all that
that's going
than I
had been
to get
the lot.
So,
so,
there,
there,
there's
there can
there's
that
just God
and I
know
because,
and I,
After some 10 minutes
that I
that I
that I
I per
for the disclassification
of Diego
Sanchez,
I was sitting
and I'm thinking
on Ebif
this Lut
I was going
more than I
had got a
lot and it
was really
the fans
also,
also,
they were very
chateate
with what
happened,
and they
started to
get to
me
and you
did you
did you
got,
you
did you
did,
what more
you got
with that
the
the derota for Diego Sanchez.
I, like, I proved
much thing in that
lot. I proved
that I was a guy who had a guy,
I proved that was a serious,
I proved that I was a guy
aggressive, I, I
looked at his house
in the altitude
there is a altitude
there is very high,
I'm, I'm, with the
team of the car,
in the city of the car,
and I looked in that
form, so, this was
very important for my career.
And this experience
now in the FC,
of four
victories or five,
if you're
when you're
with a lot of
with Diego
Sanchez,
you can't
see a signer with
the sturtain,
you just,
you just,
look the
signoron,
you can't
start to think,
oh,
it's going to
be a,
2022,
continuing a
good job,
he,
just can't
get,
beliskar the
centuron?
Yeah,
I,
I see that the
FC
got much
of me,
that he
has a
special for me,
that you
see,
even got
me to
to the third
the third
the last
was I
so that's
what the
UFC
got to
my job,
he's
got to
what I
think I
think I
know that I
know that I
am doing what
is necessary
to be a
champion,
in my
category
there are
many people
good,
there are
a lotado
good,
but I
see the
potential,
I know
where I
can get
where I
can get,
by my
determination,
and
the
I have to
to wince, to
grow in the
life, and
this will
be a champion.
And what the
next
path after this
victory?
You're in
balladissom
in January,
just passed on
the month of
the month,
has been
something
in mind?
Who would
be your
next step?
The UFC
is very
impivable,
yeah,
I've been
many people
there,
I'm,
so I'm
so I'm
here, my
friend,
I'm here,
and I'm
made that
the DEC,
that I
will look
in May,
final of
May.
To me
to me prepare
to the
final of
May.
And I'm
a functionary
of the FC,
let me
decide what
they want to
be prepared
to work
to work and
we're going
to represent
well,
we're representing
well,
I'm a
bandeer of
the Brazil
of the
United,
because I'm
there,
Michelle,
because I
want to
the
United,
my
friend,
the life
I have
today I
have much,
that
to me,
and I'd
to thank you to
the United
for the opportunity
that they're
doing,
the life
that I have
here,
I'm very
great for this.
And this,
this talk
that the UFC
you gave me
the date of
the date of
and the
other,
and the
adversary,
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
idea,
there's a
person who
I'm asking
there,
but I
think they don't
call us
because we're
both we're
we're doing
there.
So,
I think he
not he doesn't
I think he's
Rousse, I know,
that's the Rasmus,
yeah,
that's the Ramos,
I don't see the
thing,
neither for me
and for him
to look at
because we're
trying,
we have to
get to get
who's
there,
I want to
the guys,
like,
let me say
that I'm
to look to him,
for me
it's a good
thing,
because he
is now
because he
now is a
thing he
he wants to
because he's
he can't
to work with
front,
not to be
to try
not,
And then I'm
I'm thinking
I'm
I'm going to
I'm going to
see what I'm
now he's the
second he's a
now he's
so I'm
interested in front of
him for more
than he's
for me
for me
for me he
don't have to
get me of this
bitch you
go to be
and I'm
manned
I'm gonna
do for real
my friend
if he
if he wants
just
just
just
but I
want more
some
like a
like
a night
for us
to make
a one
to try
some
some
some as
some
some
is that's a lot.
The person and the Nets
trocaning a little
a stopper there.
The thing that's
a lot of
a lot of
the star
I'm trying
I'm going to
I'm going to
get back,
baby, calm
I'm going to
when I'm
there's no time
to go to
go and then
but I'm going
you're going to
you know,
I don't know
with you
today?
Ah, I
don't know
I don't know
I think I
think I'm very
perigoso for
him, I don't
if he would
want to
come to
not because I'm
not I don't
don't even
can't
but the FCC, you know what is.
A part of a doider,
from another,
it's a lot of other, and it can't happen,
no see.
Verdead.
You're a guy that's,
from the first of the beginning,
that's one,
you're one of those folks
that,
batting in the,
trying to get the
Chimaev,
in the moment,
was the majority
that didn't want to
get this car,
the guy,
the guy, pica,
the guy,
this, that's like,
put, me,
put, me,
put it,
put him,
and the UFC,
fidioninging
that I'm not,
don't,
let me be,
let's get,
don't,
what you think you
he's got there
has a hype in
him up he
apparently he will affect
the gibbered durin
in April
but what is
what is your
opinion about
this guy
this guy really
is brabo
or he's
good but
it's a bitch
seven
cabes
that they're
I don't
I don't
this beast
of seven
cabes
that we're
we'll see
the
the real
Chima
with a
Luton
N'n
this
Lota
will be
there
we can't
we can't
we're gonna
we're
who we
maybe
who,
also,
not
it's a
problem,
but it's
he's
a lot,
he,
he, the
Dourin.
So,
so,
the Shimaev
is a
guy a
good,
but he
still,
he even
didn't,
he's
the guy,
top
for him,
I want
to see
he's
really,
he's,
he's,
but he
is a
guy,
I don't
see this
perigal,
he's,
he's
very,
he's very,
he's,
not,
he's,
he's,
he,
and I'm
let the loco
there and
because
I just lot more
for the
I'm going to
do more to
do a show
for the
people to
so I'm
not a thing
to get a
and end up
a lot of
two minutes
I don't
I don't
do this
if it's
be a
but it's
I'm a
good to
go to
go to
the second
third
but
but I
I don't
I don't
I'm not
I'm
this bitch
of seven
the
the guy
no
it's all
the day
that's all the online
poe
shima ever
he seems
a guy very
a guy who
has been
talent not to
but I think
the hype
grew so
that's a
way he was a
frown
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was not
nothing
he was
he had four
two of
three derotas
and then
then he
he didn't
come come
he came
he got to
a poor coitado
that he was
he was streaking
on fc
he took a
ball of his
and then in the
last year
he picked the
the Mischate
that's a
guy who had
experience in
LFC
Poh, beleasing
the guy in
17 seconds
was impressive
but but
but for me
the victory
that really
consolidated the
guy is
good and he
was that he
was against the
Chinese
the Lingeen
is a
Chinese
is a very
too hard
and he
went and
he put the
he took the
car for
he passed
the car
and he was
so
okay
this Chimaev
this Chmyev
is a
good but
now he
he is good
he
he is
The whole ranking, that was a Ruehianian.
It was a good.
Now he saw the
pattern different,
which is the durin,
if he did this with durin,
if he did this with durin,
if he did this with durin,
puttta that's the paris,
no, does.
The thing that is
very good,
of Wessle,
he's a day of
a kid of a
child,
and Wessler is one of the
arm that I think
most top in the
Lutte is Wessle.
When the guy
is good of Wesse,
my brother,
it's a problem.
But I don't
I don't think this,
this, it's like, I'll
tell you know a example of
Kabib, that's the
guys are sinister in the West, my
now, now put him to try and a,
oh, a box,
we'll try there,
go, but no, it's
that, but it's a lot
, it's, okay,
but the guys,
are, sinistern, are sinister,
in the po'o of S.
And who can't
talk to, I'm, my
man, man, the Sos
the S of the Crosters
are foda, they're
to respect, right?
And you're a guy
that has
the
show
of the
show of
the game
and so,
but the
your base
is the
true of the
whole base,
it's a
division,
a division
a division
full of
the
wrestling,
yeah,
the top
five of your
division or
is a
wrestler or
it's a
guy that
the
jiu-gitso
like the
how much
how it's
doing this
life in
Las Vegas
also
to you
to you
get to
eventually will
get
to be
the ranking
you have
to be
to be
to be
back to
get to
I have much
confidence in my
S, I trained
much time
the S,
I've done
in Belain, and
I
I like
very to
West,
so you
see you
have I
have seen,
I've never
got a
get a
to get to
anyone.
It's
not I
didn't get
the guy
that's
but
I'm
a guy
that's
a man
that's
a really
to fight
with him
is the
Nick
who has
the
right,
the
there,
but you don't
can't take
him from the
arm's the
because he has
a brace
very long
but I'm
more more
more more
more than I'm
that I'm
always put more
more than
I'm
so I'm
this advantage
my man
the guy
can be good
of west
so that's
but when
he enters
on the
man of a
person of a
and that
he's
he defends
well
when the
guy enter
he comes
he's playing
he's trying
he's trying
in a
port
yeah
it's
got Wessin
my
man
You know?
It's like the
Primo of Kabib,
the guys are
strong too,
my man,
then when you
put a hand
on the foot
in the coitin'
and goitia
and go ahead
and go back
because the
guys are far
too much,
yeah.
We have this
the end of
the
time,
Marachev,
that's
trillating the
same
the same
the cabib
is a
different
of your
but you
like you
can't
you
feel
your
opinion,
you
you're
you're
in the
case
of
They're
He's just
They've got to
He's a
He's a
He's a
No, they're
to respect
The guys,
the guys
are the
B.O,
not,
are the
because
the game
of Wessley
is very,
does very
very well
that's very
very
came,
I remember
here now
I'm here,
I'm not
I'm not
to say the
name of
who was
but,
but,
but,
and in
the time
there was
a pandemic
and then
he
to go to train. He swore
training there in the academy
of Rafael. They're
there to,
you know,
an hour,
a time to go
an hour to go
an hour to
go to go
the men.
And then,
he came to
train there,
now,
I had been
a lot of
five rounds
in par.
Then he
got, the
men who
people,
he got,
two,
two,
two,
my,
who was,
who were,
who were,
and,
and,
and,
and,
and,
and,
were to
,
train with the Russo,
also,
to do Spahnies in there.
Then
it was the two
to train with
the Russo.
He had
to be trained
with me,
he was to train with
the Russo.
My
my man,
I have a
friend here
that he is
like,
he's a
minute,
two minutes
no maximum.
He does
what he
has been,
he,
he,
he licked
and he
gets a
disgrasado,
so he
has a one
minute,
two minutes
in a
minute and
a minute and
he does
what he
he has.
My brother,
then he
was with the
Cabeb,
yeah,
and pah,
chah,
chah,
and pah on
the other,
and the palm of the
part,
and the prime of
my friend,
the man,
the man,
he was,
he was,
the guy,
I was thinking,
I'm in the
academy of the
guys,
I'm not,
the other,
I'm putting it
back,
yeah,
the vagabund
and,
and it's,
my man,
and,
and,
and p'
pal to one
and chute,
and bico-donah,
Then it was a minute and a half, my
man, what he did he did?
Pushed the other.
Entra.
Ah, my man, man.
The vagabundooom
cancour.
In the way,
he wasrode of a mass,
no way.
Then he would
get the other
what he did.
Entra.
Rapace,
when he entered
when he tass,
he just pushed
or, I'mcene.
Entra.
And pusho my other
friend.
My man,
this primed of his
Kabib,
pah,
this bisch
that this
my other
friend,
and pea,
cah,
Pia,
Pee,
Pee,
P, he's
deconted on.
Desconted
on him.
He said,
because he
saw the
two,
not he was,
he said,
he'd be,
man,
this,
this,
this,
this,
this,
this,
this,
he'd,
he'd,
he'd,
he'd,
he'd,
and he'd
to go,
to one side,
and to
other,
and we're just
laughing,
oh,
bababun,
then,
the,
my other
friend,
who
batte, and it waso,
that's the vicarbund.
And this day in Sparne Me,
the vagabund,
did what had,
in this my camp
now,
did what he had,
but he got,
no, he got,
to the form of the
machine,
I, I went
to him,
my man,
I,
I, I,
I,
I, I,
back on him
in the
machine,
there,
we got,
he came,
and he came,
and what he
did,
and what he
went here,
in this
thing,
to do that,
and then,
no,
my mom,
Come, come here, your final with me.
Be here.
And the Maritchev never
never brought after this, too.
Moose, B.O. B.O. Grand.
You're a do-do, eh.
How is the Pitchonade,
for the people who don't know.
I have my own thoughts, because it's
much thing, you know,
car. And much
a lot of things, I'm doing,
I'm trying to doormine.
I'm, you know,
when it's a little sonn'in
that you feel like you're thinking
in the life.
And then when it's
I'll create a
girl,
a goal
that's a
way,
you know,
there's
a good
man,
man,
if not,
how can't
remember?
You asked
the
the pitch on
night,
is?
Yes.
The pitch
on night,
oh,
it's a
campbalota
to the
front,
that I
take a
carcane
the,
I did
tell the
last
my
lot,
yeah,
yeah,
this is
can't
do you
do you
do you can
do?
Do you,
da,
This your list
of the goal
to be the paper
your block
that you're inventing
how are inventing
how are
how are ined
how are you
do you know
there's got
there's a dog
there's
there's gop
there
there can't
never say
it's possible
that this
man is this
no it's
it's impossible
because
like the
that I'm
that I'm
a starling
and I'm
a mortal
who said
that that
who did that
who did
and nobody
did
I did.
So it's a
part of the
one,
the guy is
to do you
do that's the
thing that I
do with,
the world
will be,
will be able to
get a dog
in this goal?
How many of
these goals you
are you
are illegal?
None one.
No,
because there are
some,
there's a
way, for example,
there's a
one of the
head to
the car,
but I'm going to
get in the
same coat of
the leg,
but he's,
but he's
a,
no, no,
no saco.
It's illegal,
but it happens
in the
lot,
it's like
a lot
that I
do the
Kange-leytown,
right?
The Fum-Mix
that I
do you take the
salt,
I don't take
to go to
the car,
to get in the
car,
to come in the
car, no,
it happens,
my friend,
I,
I'm,
I'm,
to me
pass a guard,
but I,
so the
secret of success
is the risk,
man,
there's a
risk,
I'm just
imagining
how is
Michel Pereo in the games
of Pride,
with all the
title of
a meta,
pisong,
then the sky
you're at
the same
the limit,
you know,
you're liberate,
disblocking
the code
the video game
and be
putting the
little bit like
a porrada
in the ring,
yeah?
Yeah,
it would be
mass,
it would be
more,
and with this,
it would be
the goal to
do you know,
but the most
those meows
of those meals
here,
no,
it's a lot,
it,
it's,
it's,
to happen.
But,
I don't
think in
doing
to make
a legal
to the
guy.
You have
done a
event that
could be
a time?
No, no,
not I
did,
because this is
more of
the old,
not an
old,
I'm a
MMA,
I'm
14 years.
Actually,
he's just
on the
RIS and
one,
that can,
Tives of
METT and
so.
No,
Rise,
you can a porre
total,
you know,
one also
can't do wheeled
in the head.
It's a
car,
so,
so,
who's,
who's
maybe,
who's not,
you know,
to try the
assal of
the reque
you want,
and it's
a nice,
so it's
too, so it
but there,
there's,
there's,
there's,
there's,
in my
last lot,
the judge
was very,
the judge,
was very,
I,
I,
I,
I said,
he said,
oh,
Michelle,
I don't
to put you,
part to
puny,
you disclassific,
nothing.
But,
but I'm
going to
do you're here to
do your
and you're
here to do you
know,
take your
self,
do your
because I don't
want to,
I'm not here
to disclassfical
or to try
a point
your,
know,
want to do you
take a
matter,
perfect.
The other
not,
there are some
who say,
oh,
if you do
be disclassified,
it will be
but it's
but I'm,
but I'm,
I don't,
I want,
I want,
I want,
I don't want to get a poltoran.
You know, and I'll put a me to me.
You can't class, the car, declassific.
Now I'm going to do you guys.
You're a doider.
Of what the other thing is?
What?
What was the habit that
that said?
I think that the
Krauswielas.
The guy said,
the judge.
It was the same act
as well as the other.
The Russian.
The U.S.
The U.S.
There, no.
No.
No.
No, they now, because I
I don't create
I even in the game of the UFC,
I think I don't know
I'm doing to do not,
because it's possible.
They'll have to be
going to create the shows,
no.
I'm not, I'm going to create
this porre here,
man, there's,
there's a guy,
there's not,
it's not,
that's the devil's it's
me that's really,
that's not,
it's a man,
but I can't be
a team new,
you know,
but it's a designer
to put it,
for putting together
to create the
jobs,
not it's easy,
Man,
man.
It's a
Foda.
My cabarad
just to
have a
question to
get a lot of
you know,
I don't
remember after
which was
I'm going to
I think it's
I'm going to
interview with you
not,
not,
not,
not,
not because he
will be
going to
go to
he's all
so he's
going to
he's going to
no,
no,
but he's
going to be
he's going to
how he's
like he
he went to
the car,
he went to
to beck
he was
he
this,
who's
what this?
who came to come a pickup
to travel to travel to
Brazil,
of Brazil, of a car?
How is that...
It was, that...
It was...
It was the idea.
I have a friend
who's a marie,
right?
It's the guy
that I'm
with him
seven years
in the Paras
when I'm...
It was the
man who gave
the room
of life,
was the guy
who me
who's the
man...
It's the
principal, it
was for his
it's for the
car of him,
that I'm
who I'm
who is
And then I and he, my
man, we have
some ideas
very similar,
you know,
we're in a lot
in, we're
there's,
we're,
there's,
we're,
we're,
I have a car
bachana,
top.
And then,
pa,
no,
so what,
go to Brazil
to the
car,
but,
we,
we,
we,
we,
then I,
my
other,
my mother,
and the other,
Fabbo,
yeah,
most,
more,
but,
oh,
that I,
oh,
you,
you,
want me
me,
you,
negative of my
side.
Not be negative
when you're
going to be
I don't
people negative
people who
don't say
a train
that's not
not a
not even if I
think I'm
going to get
I'm sorry
I'm
my brother
call your
call your
your
don't want to
you're in
you're in
you're in
get to be
bad
to get a
negative
with me
not
and I
and I'm
and I'm
so much
so we're
we're going
we're
we're
we're not
no my
man
we're just
we're
we're
par,
do it,
get
all the way,
we sit there
one hour,
two hours
for us
program a
rota and
call,
my woman,
I'll say,
she's,
she's,
not that
woman,
her,
that's,
she's,
no,
my wife,
I said,
we're going,
she's,
we're going,
she's,
my wife,
and then,
I'm in
Marin,
we,
we're,
when we're,
when we're
we,
we went,
my,
we went,
we,
we went,
par,
no,
many things-s-y-you-you-go-you-your-your-old, like, my car.
I still not quitted him, no, my car.
Then, it would be a document cuted.
And it was, more or less, just that.
Because my car, I had just got to buy him, right?
I had to have my car.
But I already said, Mar-in, when I quit my car,
no, because it's one of my son, is this voyage.
Because it's a voyage that everyone does,
my man,
my man, my brother
that I'm going to
do and that
I'm going to do.
But we're going to
do it.
And then when we
went to see the
road, my
man, par,
no,
we'll make to
make the process,
let me take the
car the first,
and we're
talking to
this route.
I imagine that
would be
going to be
a little
10 countries,
I'd have to
have to have
to be a
thing in America
Central,
not,
not be a
problem
not much
not.
No,
no,
so difficult,
because I
I've conversed with three people
that have done these are
these guys
these guys are
all the world all right
of motor,
of car and I
came to contact
because these guys
and I went to
ask you
say, I'm sure
super-tru
so super-trile
like this
year and more
three, so
for us
go and reversing
we're driving
we're going to
run in six
hours,
two in six
hour we
we're in six hours
we're in our city,
will take one
to come
a one,
then we're going to
do so when it's
when it's the morning
and we're
because it's the
thing it's a
night,
you know,
in a place you know
in the other
that's not that's
but in the day
it's super-tanko
and then
there's a
Panama, you know
that's a
it's a mess
the canal of Panama
yeah
it's the canal
there you
get a
put the car
in a container
there,
get the other
back the
it's a
way, it's a
day,
I'm a viage of
so I'm
I see,
tranquill,
right?
I'm so,
I'm so, I'm
just, I'm
here to come
to come back to
do you,
do you know,
do you know,
a week
with Michelle Pereira
and I'm in
there, so.
I'm going to
roadies,
there,
then,
well,
no,
no way,
no,
it's a
hour,
to do you're
to do that,
then,
a part of
this,
that's,
not,
you're a
person,
no,
so,
so,
so,
so you're,
so you're
doing this
you'll see
very
this
way to see
that's a
nice
to be nice
to be a
thing that
there's a
thing that
I'm not
where I'm
that I'm
there's a
there's like
in the
top of the
planet
I don't see
you can't
see that
but then
we're gonna
but then
we're gonna
we're gonna
there's gonna
yeah
there's
there's
much
much
yeah
no
and to
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're we
we're
we're
is very
great.
Uh-huh.
It's a
but I don't
want to get
the same.
I'm going to
because a
second one
because one
a vogue,
because who
go to do you
don't have
bebe,
right?
And then a
vaga is to
not a
car chachin
of a gelada
this
this is a
better than
better than
better.
I didn't know.
It's not
it's a
but it's
but it's
so far
then it
is my
first
the car
is my
my
that's it. So we're not
so we're not,
my mom.
Thank you.
My man,
always a pleasure
to talk about you.
No,
I'm going to
this one of
my end of
May, continue
rebuting and
continue being
you,
but not,
not,
not,
not,
not,
not,
not,
not,
the person,
a guy,
and blah,
blah,
blah,
just to get,
but important is
it's a
important is you
too, right,
yeah,
we're preza
for this
then,
I,
I,
I,
I, I,
I, I,
I, I,
I, I,
I don't, when
I get those
my friends,
he says,
oh, my show,
I thought that I
thought I'd have
a name's in
old, you know,
I'm a other
life, and the
guy,
I thought,
I thought,
you know,
I'm not,
my friend,
I'm not, my
life, I'm not,
my own,
life, but I
am the same
person,
, I'm the same
person,
like the
family,
to come to
call,
I,
he's talking to
him,
oh, Michelle,
I'm different,
Michelle is different,
it's different,
no,
so what,
He, he
He got,
he came out,
he went with me
here,
he went to
a week,
he came to
get me to put
a porcelanata
in the house
here,
and then he said,
I'm saying,
I'm saying,
I'm the same
person,
I'm just more
in the on-
the world,
I'm just,
but I'm
more, you know,
we can't be better,
and this is that
is the good
and I'm
going to be
those things
good,
so.
With the importance,
I'm sorry,
thank you,
thank you,
thank you,
thank you,
rebeater,
there,
man,
my
man,
my
man, my
man,
God, God,
we're just a lot of
podcast, and I'm
thank you,
this time of the podcast,
thank you, I'm going to
a week, there's a company of the same,
