MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Michel Pereira Quer Trocar Tapa Com Nate Diaz, Analisa Durinho x Chimaev

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

O Paraense Voador pousa no Trocação Franca dessa semana. Em um longo e descontraído bate-papo, Michel Pereira conta como se tornou um lutador eficiente sem deixar a irreverência de lado morando em... Las Vegas, onde brilha nas mesas de pôquer. O lutador admite que ficou surpreso com o último adversário, o português André Fialho, e revela quando deve lutar novamente, torcendo para ter a chance de trocar tapas com Nate Diaz um dia. Michel analisa, ainda, o duelo Gilbert Durinho x Khamzat Chimaev, e explica a insana ideia de viajar de carro de Las Vegas até o Pará. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC welterweight Michel Pereira stops by Trocação Franca to explain how he became a threat to the division while still entertaining in his own way, and how living in Las Vegas helped him achieve that — and earn some dollars playing poker. Pereira also breaks down his recent win over Andre Fialho, reveals when he should be back inside the octagon, and explains why he would love to exchange slaps with Nate Diaz, discusses the rise of Khamzat Chimaev and his upcoming bout with Gilbert Burns, and his insane idea for a Vegas-Brazil road trip. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, Lomboe, fan of Lutta,
Starting point is 00:00:38 well, on 26th of episode of the podcast, Trocaption, a new house about MMA in this immense polar sphere. I'm Gryglox, correspondent of the site American MMIFile in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm back in this quarter Friday, on the company of Michelle Pereira, one of the shooters of the most impugantes of the UFC in the actuality. It's part of the end up after a carnaval,
Starting point is 00:00:57 which was a little different than we're used to, but Saturday, but a event numberated in the UFC, and nothing better than a little bit of Paranese, the voodor, the Ombuds to the Ombuds, to Rite,
Starting point is 00:01:05 to T, T, you'll get there. The other side of the line now we have Michel Pereer that in the day 22 January, implacu, a quarter victory in the FC, Ghana, DeC,
Starting point is 00:01:20 Ganda Descuh, and DECION, the Portuguese, Andrea Fiario. All right, my friend, my friend, my friend,
Starting point is 00:01:23 welcome, I'm a pleasure to be here, it's a honor to be able to try a idea with you, we're going to
Starting point is 00:01:30 go to be a new our conversation here, chama. Just to start to talk about,
Starting point is 00:01:36 we're talking about talking about, we're talking about, you're talking, you're the first, you're with the good,
Starting point is 00:01:41 the world, of the sun, you've you, you've been a house in Vegas, are monta
Starting point is 00:01:46 your studio, what you have in mind with this par- par-fernalia all there?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, I, I have a microphone good, I have a camera good, I have a illumination, but it's like like I said,
Starting point is 00:01:56 I've got to buy a house and I'm not not able to get all right, I'm not, I'm just doing it, so you know,
Starting point is 00:02:05 reforming it, so you know, reformed of house, it's always it's always we're going to make this
Starting point is 00:02:10 interview, so Philet. With what how is going this life in Vegas? You're, you're trying
Starting point is 00:02:15 to be a time with Rafael Rarrar, you're with a team good in Vegas
Starting point is 00:02:20 and Now, of, of, house-proped, how is it is a new new career, this new moment, embarking of
Starting point is 00:02:29 a vez, and mergling in this world of the FC, that's in Las Vegas, is probably in the UFC,
Starting point is 00:02:33 you know, car, you need to get a hand, it's just to get a in the UFC
Starting point is 00:02:39 Ipex? Here, I'm more, the 4 minute of the EPX here, the academy
Starting point is 00:02:46 of the FC, so it's it's very close to me to me trainer. Las Vegas is being
Starting point is 00:02:51 an experience awesome. I like much here. It's a first time that I knew the first time I'm going to
Starting point is 00:02:59 work. And it's like you said, here we're in the FC, here we're the house of the F.C.
Starting point is 00:03:04 So, this is very good for my career, for my life, I see things here that I don't see in other
Starting point is 00:03:11 other place of the world, so it's just a thing. You, before, would,
Starting point is 00:03:16 you were, you were in the north of Brazil? How is your life before
Starting point is 00:03:20 of establish residence in Vegas? It was I was I'm in South of
Starting point is 00:03:25 Paras and then to the all the more complicated structure for the we're more
Starting point is 00:03:32 complicated. Here in Las Vegas not here I have everything I need a structure that I
Starting point is 00:03:36 need I have a some people to trainers some people to train
Starting point is 00:03:42 but I I'm I'm I'm I'm contract and I'm
Starting point is 00:03:46 so here it's very good to me to me live everything is very good for me. You think that this
Starting point is 00:03:51 explains, justifies this this is the excellent phase that you're living now in the UFC, these four victories is also for being a life
Starting point is 00:04:00 more focused on the life more than in Vegas, mergulated in this universe? Yes, and all this is a dedication
Starting point is 00:04:09 that I have a focus I have what is, is to bring who I need, to make a investment that for
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm trying a camp good, like I have my camp past and here I have my
Starting point is 00:04:22 preparado office who who's a little bit the Richard who train with me
Starting point is 00:04:28 and the other who don't train them I bring the war I brought the war
Starting point is 00:04:33 there's the there's the south of the south of Parer and then we go and we're making
Starting point is 00:04:40 a camp backana because I don't so much to train in a team
Starting point is 00:04:43 great I love to have my team there and the team, focus on me, and
Starting point is 00:04:49 it's doing right, you see that I 'm getting very well prepared in the lot, and it's very good, this form that I'm doing. What do you prefer this style of training, than do you, do you, do you, do you have part of a great team? You've just made
Starting point is 00:05:02 part of a great team? Why don't you did this, this style of training different? Ah, it's simple, yeah? Quote, more the more of the more problem, my and this is like, you're more money, the more of the more, better.
Starting point is 00:05:16 and the team is the same thing you imagine a lot of of the head there in problem MBO and here no, with my team a few fechadina I'm the head of the team and I can't
Starting point is 00:05:29 organize all the world of my way so it's less problem for me and I can't I can't have just the people that I want to be the people that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:42 not a team great not when I've been training in a team grand, then there's that I don't go to him a guy that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:48 not a guy who not a guy who not a lot, not a kind of a kind of end up in the training.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So, for that I love to my team, my team, that I just call who I want to be
Starting point is 00:06:00 to be the side, and we're, we are very animated, are very, so the our energy
Starting point is 00:06:07 in the time of the training is very good. So, if there a person that I don't
Starting point is 00:06:10 go, can be is, and it's I'm going to it in the train. So, for that I
Starting point is 00:06:14 go out of my team. And how it was the adaptation to more in Vegas compared to
Starting point is 00:06:19 Paras? It's completely different, not the are two universes completely opposed,
Starting point is 00:06:24 the view in Paras and the life in Las Vegas. Yeah, one of the things is
Starting point is 00:06:30 the structure that I have that I have that I have, that all it's much more
Starting point is 00:06:33 more easy, it's not it's a more, it more, it's more it's more it's
Starting point is 00:06:40 more difficult It's more simple, so, let's say like I'm here, four, five minutes
Starting point is 00:06:47 of the PIA here, so it's it becomes more more easy for me. Then let me say the academy
Starting point is 00:06:54 that I train in LVIC. There's seven academies, topissima, grand, to me train. So,
Starting point is 00:07:02 the structure that I have here all can be more easy for me. Then it's just I'm just to
Starting point is 00:07:06 the guy, and I'm, as I I bought house here in Las Vegas. So when I brought up to pay a hotel,
Starting point is 00:07:15 no need to be in a hotel, no need these things. So, all, it's getting more easy, getting better for us making better to make what should be made. And we,
Starting point is 00:07:23 we hear much, that Las Vegas is a perjohn for who has a bad idea of how it was the first time in Vegas? Now you're now you're used to
Starting point is 00:07:32 know, but how it was the first time you came in Vegas, those luses, casino, the jogatina and all how is the experience of being in this place? It's like,
Starting point is 00:07:44 if you want to here, there's a wonder to bring a million to dole for you to get here, you can't do that you can't, but if you
Starting point is 00:07:51 want a pais, also I go so I'm really of this. When I'm I'm in fairies I do what I do, I want
Starting point is 00:07:57 here, there's the party, there's some many people like here that we can we bring,
Starting point is 00:08:04 I like, but when I I'm at the time of my time camp, that is the focus total, I don't go to
Starting point is 00:08:11 these places, I'm going to go to this place, but I'm just training and we'll say food,
Starting point is 00:08:17 there's a quarter type of food, so I want a churrascaria Brazilian, if I
Starting point is 00:08:21 want a Chinese, if I think the good news, you know, you're going to do a thing,
Starting point is 00:08:29 you're doing a good, when you're when you is long of all the end of the
Starting point is 00:08:35 world, that's in my city, Tukumann, just have more one city to gore, it's just
Starting point is 00:08:41 a matter, my friend, you know? So, you want to go to be in a shop, and you can't
Starting point is 00:08:47 come, you want to a food, you know, for this I think, I'm not, because I know I'm here,
Starting point is 00:08:53 I'm going to move here, it's like not people and say, ah, the States United is
Starting point is 00:08:58 a man, so, my man, then, go, to me say that here is a real. What the devil
Starting point is 00:09:04 he wants to where do you know how do you get to be the way of the way to get to the same to the mat
Starting point is 00:09:12 to the tucumann is in a middle of Las Vegas and making the fissing and post the money.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, now I'm there's some some friends here that we have some I'm playing and then
Starting point is 00:09:25 I'm trying and I'm getting a some games so a game game so it a
Starting point is 00:09:30 a game that I I like, that's the poker, and to be to be a very,
Starting point is 00:09:34 not so, the poker for me, it's not just to gain the money, I'm just
Starting point is 00:09:41 I'm just jog, and I'm having, and then, who is professional most, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm not, I'm just, I'm, playing, and, and I'm, playing, it's just
Starting point is 00:09:51 day, but I go to play there, in the area, and I started
Starting point is 00:09:55 and I started good, I, I'm, I'm having to be able,
Starting point is 00:09:59 to tarabon even, I, I said, bitch, I'm, oh, I'm trying, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get back, but I don't know, what I'm going to, because it's just I'm going to a thing, I already, I've got to do with the American, hey, let's take one here, and I'll see what, and that one, and then,
Starting point is 00:10:19 the train was getting a lot, and when I had already, the man, the middle of the men of the mesa, and then, and then the American rat had in our own, there, bring in, and so, poor, for me, it's more this, more more diversion. Of course, there are some
Starting point is 00:10:32 some guys who can't get to get a money, I'm more then you're back, you're know,
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'm sure, I'm more kind of, I think more retentate I think, I think the people, you know, I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:10:44 when I'm not I'm not to, I'm not gonna, I'm gonna, then I think, then, when it's a lot,
Starting point is 00:10:51 yeah, what was the best job, this, the, the best, the best, this,
Starting point is 00:10:56 this, this, this, this, it's because when I'm a bit of a time, then I'm going to
Starting point is 00:11:06 talk about in the game, our game the game muds, so many times I'm going to all in
Starting point is 00:11:10 all the shacks, this a man is a boy is this vagaboon is robin and then my man I'm,
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm trying when I'm I'm with I'm just the filet and it seems to my side
Starting point is 00:11:22 man, but I'm just to come one, but I'm I'm just lastk then I
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'm I'm trapped and the train influe even more now that I'm to be a fairer, right? You're good
Starting point is 00:11:33 to blefar or you're not in a word I'm very good. I'm very good. When I'm
Starting point is 00:11:41 trying to get a guy and I'm going to pay that I think that baby is just robbing no,
Starting point is 00:11:48 then the negro enters and you're a lager. What was the night that
Starting point is 00:11:52 you've been out of carcinary with how you got you got in a mess to get in
Starting point is 00:11:57 it? posted a video on Instagram. It was a game that was a friend who organized, there was a little in Belage, there was a mess for us. And then it was just the people. Nobody from
Starting point is 00:12:08 was there was only the game. Because we always a little kid in a car, with a churrasquist, an a little bit of the friends. And then he did this game, no, Belage. And then, my man, I'm, I'm going,
Starting point is 00:12:23 I just, I'm, I'm, I'm started, you know, because it was a good, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm good I'm good I'm my man man
Starting point is 00:12:30 my man man and jogging I'm running I'm a head $1,000 psalm
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm sure I'm I'm gonna I'm when I'm
Starting point is 00:12:44 man I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hotchian in time real
Starting point is 00:12:49 now I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm back over mutt over
Starting point is 00:12:54 man when I'm when I saw I was the man the And then,
Starting point is 00:12:58 trawada in that diversion, that's that really good-tos my friends are very nice
Starting point is 00:13:04 and then I got I got in it was almost four million dollars $3,700 dollars.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I gained, yeah? I lizee the guy and, I'm a champion for the guy who
Starting point is 00:13:19 got got the money in this day. The churrache the next for your count
Starting point is 00:13:23 then, but it's good Dime, Mous. The our our thing is
Starting point is 00:13:29 a matter of a lot of it's a little, I'm going to play in Vegas, I'm going to go to go to
Starting point is 00:13:35 get to do that not. No, no, don't do that not, no, because I
Starting point is 00:13:39 don't know, I'm going to do that, and just do it to me. And, talking to
Starting point is 00:13:46 this, you're in this moment illuminated, and you're in this, you're in the FC,
Starting point is 00:13:50 are, oh, it's, better, it's, better than, yeah, the
Starting point is 00:13:54 the last the last, Fialo, that came out in the same the hour and he's
Starting point is 00:13:57 a bit of this oboe the same man, man, man, well, that's a good,
Starting point is 00:14:02 he knew because I'm a lot of the other events, but the man did the job,
Starting point is 00:14:06 before the after this lot of the last time of the other he said, he said, ta,
Starting point is 00:14:12 porre, what the jab is this this guy is me, this jab here, this bitch,
Starting point is 00:14:16 where this man, this jeb, moose, was jab, view, jab, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:20 yeah, gu' gu'ed, yeah, that when the train's-z-aw, I, I, "'Nobro my nose, I thought "'I had kebred my nose. "'I, I'd have been,
Starting point is 00:14:30 "'and I'd have gone down, "'and I, I said, "'Ag, now, moyo. "'And then it's the first round. "'And, as I, Marim, "'and, how, fum, "'Arde, the train arde, "'moio, I, for you.
Starting point is 00:14:42 "'And, as, as, "'and, as I was very well, "'trained, yeah, "'enged, I'm, "'chamey, I'm, I activated online there, and then it was all right, but the first round,
Starting point is 00:14:55 because I wanted to see what he had, what he, what he, what this guy came, what he wants, how he can look, how he wants, I want to be how he's it, because the first round, it's the round more perigoso, that the two are tense,
Starting point is 00:15:09 I'm too, he's, he's, he's, he's, nobody knows one other, but the first round was better, for me, grand. Not what, is like, he is better than I,
Starting point is 00:15:21 I went, I went to see what he was, and then he he made, he went to be my man, when I went,
Starting point is 00:15:28 if I was going to be able, he'll get him and he's just the fieler. Was, was more than you was the other
Starting point is 00:15:35 thing? It was, was, I, was, I, no, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm, I'm, I don't, I'm, I'm, but before the second to the second
Starting point is 00:15:43 to the second row to the I, I just I actually more tranquil. That then I just activated
Starting point is 00:15:47 more I did more I'm doing and I saw that he not was not he not he
Starting point is 00:15:55 in the rest of the lutta you have some more the characteristics of a part of a lot of
Starting point is 00:16:02 so I think maybe maybe had had felted this in the first round
Starting point is 00:16:05 for you are studying for you not inventing these piruetas these these gops
Starting point is 00:16:11 more two? Yes, if I if I come up, if I start my first round
Starting point is 00:16:16 as I was in the second to the first round, but I would get a strategy not
Starting point is 00:16:22 this, my strategy. I want to see what he has, I want to see the physical
Starting point is 00:16:29 of his physical of his so my friend, then we see who is who is who is
Starting point is 00:16:35 my man, I saw that I know, but I'm God-D was very very well
Starting point is 00:16:40 trained and it was so the Ville. How is you med to feel like the
Starting point is 00:16:45 best moment to old to use the same a thing a little bit of a poise a guiseada
Starting point is 00:16:53 a piruette how is how is it now? A part of now it is a time it's
Starting point is 00:16:59 the first round I was I said I'm I have to me I have to
Starting point is 00:17:04 me get to if I think if I he gets he can he can't I can't
Starting point is 00:17:09 vacill because the first round was a a trance, a very fake, I peake. So, if the second round and the third, it's
Starting point is 00:17:15 kind of, so I'm going to focus in gain, that I'm going to end up. I'm trying to enter in rank. I'm trying to enter in the rank. So, let's focus here, make my, my own, and
Starting point is 00:17:30 focus more in the result, because I can't lose this lot. So I went in this line. I said, I per die the first. So now, now I have to gain this second and this, So, for that I didn't because I had to recuperate
Starting point is 00:17:44 this atrazement. And then I, with a naris storated, my brother, I'm, I'm, I'm going to be a trapoling, will me prejudicca, in my gas,
Starting point is 00:17:54 in my physical, I'm very well trained, but it's not not able to get a right? To make a respiration,
Starting point is 00:18:01 it's a great will be a un-traplied, so I prefer to play there, more to gain, than to do
Starting point is 00:18:08 do you, to do it, and I'm to be fair in some moments it was before in your career or so when you
Starting point is 00:18:14 entered in the UFC, it was to see that do you do the show, to do you was at least
Starting point is 00:18:21 was at least was the more important you know, you think this moment you live today of four
Starting point is 00:18:28 victory and is true you're fruit of you you turn this chavit I have like I have to
Starting point is 00:18:33 do show I have to do performance different but I need to I need to go to
Starting point is 00:18:38 to get close to the centuron, that is my dream to be a dream of the future.
Starting point is 00:18:42 There's this moment, this dirad, this time? Yeah, of the people,
Starting point is 00:18:47 not, are coming to get to get to get an more, we're lot with
Starting point is 00:18:51 a man, so we don't, not that I'm, not that I will be
Starting point is 00:18:58 going to continue to doing, but I have been to be not, it's
Starting point is 00:19:04 no possible, I don't can get there and make the loco, that not so,
Starting point is 00:19:08 it's a way, it's a lot, The guy is trying to run my head to I have
Starting point is 00:19:12 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going like the way the way that this bitch
Starting point is 00:19:19 is like I'm not to be being being being a other patam other guys these guys are very good
Starting point is 00:19:27 my category not a play a great just car good yeah even more
Starting point is 00:19:31 in the top 15 only so car good and I have to enter
Starting point is 00:19:34 in rank I'm I'm I'm back I'm I'm not I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:19:39 going conform it's you know, you see a a form how you're
Starting point is 00:19:45 going to when you went to the first you know, that first particular, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:52 everyone got a lotuco, then in the last time, you got can't be getting, and all the
Starting point is 00:19:58 man, he's not of a a guy, he's a man, he's, that's,
Starting point is 00:20:02 so, are things that you know, you, you're that you used,
Starting point is 00:20:05 to, you, to go to after the F.C. But you think now,
Starting point is 00:20:08 you have more respect of the fans that don't you see in just like this guy is like a
Starting point is 00:20:13 attraction, like the man is a different, but never will be someone in serious
Starting point is 00:20:17 in the defensive. You think it's the way how they have been too.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yes, yes, and then today, it's a God, we're a person
Starting point is 00:20:28 there's the people, that the people of the people who people do because they
Starting point is 00:20:32 see that I don't know that I don't do show, or a a show,
Starting point is 00:20:36 or be a guy of result, I will be I can put to any of my
Starting point is 00:20:46 category, that if I go to look to the result I will I will go to be
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm very and I do you're so much for what I do do you know, who
Starting point is 00:20:57 I'm very that I'm dedicated in the time of my camp for so that
Starting point is 00:21:00 when I'm not the man you don't know I'm I'm Michael, no I'm
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm no I'm my friend you can see how my life you So,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I'm a guy very focused on what I when I'm preparing, I'm very focused. And this is making I
Starting point is 00:21:19 be a champion to have results positive. And with this I'm getting more the confidence of the fans
Starting point is 00:21:28 that in the first they had, but I came back with that lot with Chris Collin,
Starting point is 00:21:35 I think is that is the name, that I did a lot a on the cause of a
Starting point is 00:21:39 tirade of a piece what happened what happened did I cancea that way I'm
Starting point is 00:21:43 not because I did my things I'm in the cause of my time I'm trying to so I'm
Starting point is 00:21:50 doing to love to the people who I'm a good, that I'm a very good, that I have
Starting point is 00:21:54 a quay of a lot of and this the guy I'm I'm still trying
Starting point is 00:21:59 to get a guy the other I'm you know that's the thing you
Starting point is 00:22:04 didn't that was an idea was an how she was, he perceived, he was,
Starting point is 00:22:09 he was getting wrong for him and not he didn't want to get to that's I consider
Starting point is 00:22:16 like a victory, but beleas, I gained much more that way, it's even incredible this,
Starting point is 00:22:21 I gained much more that way, happening all that that's going than I had been
Starting point is 00:22:28 to get the lot. So, so, there, there, there's there can
Starting point is 00:22:30 there's that just God and I know because, and I, After some 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:22:36 that I that I that I I per for the disclassification of Diego Sanchez, I was sitting
Starting point is 00:22:44 and I'm thinking on Ebif this Lut I was going more than I had got a lot and it was really
Starting point is 00:22:50 the fans also, also, they were very chateate with what happened, and they
Starting point is 00:22:55 started to get to me and you did you did you got, you
Starting point is 00:23:00 did you did, what more you got with that the the derota for Diego Sanchez. I, like, I proved
Starting point is 00:23:06 much thing in that lot. I proved that I was a guy who had a guy, I proved that was a serious, I proved that I was a guy aggressive, I, I looked at his house in the altitude
Starting point is 00:23:18 there is a altitude there is very high, I'm, I'm, with the team of the car, in the city of the car, and I looked in that form, so, this was very important for my career.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And this experience now in the FC, of four victories or five, if you're when you're with a lot of with Diego
Starting point is 00:23:38 Sanchez, you can't see a signer with the sturtain, you just, you just, look the signoron,
Starting point is 00:23:43 you can't start to think, oh, it's going to be a, 2022, continuing a good job,
Starting point is 00:23:49 he, just can't get, beliskar the centuron? Yeah, I, I see that the
Starting point is 00:23:54 FC got much of me, that he has a special for me, that you see,
Starting point is 00:23:59 even got me to to the third the third the last was I so that's what the
Starting point is 00:24:07 UFC got to my job, he's got to what I think I think I
Starting point is 00:24:12 know that I know that I am doing what is necessary to be a champion, in my category
Starting point is 00:24:19 there are many people good, there are a lotado good, but I see the
Starting point is 00:24:23 potential, I know where I can get where I can get, by my determination,
Starting point is 00:24:28 and the I have to to wince, to grow in the life, and this will be a champion.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And what the next path after this victory? You're in balladissom in January, just passed on
Starting point is 00:24:40 the month of the month, has been something in mind? Who would be your next step?
Starting point is 00:24:43 The UFC is very impivable, yeah, I've been many people there, I'm,
Starting point is 00:24:50 so I'm so I'm here, my friend, I'm here, and I'm made that the DEC,
Starting point is 00:24:56 that I will look in May, final of May. To me to me prepare to the
Starting point is 00:25:00 final of May. And I'm a functionary of the FC, let me decide what they want to
Starting point is 00:25:08 be prepared to work to work and we're going to represent well, we're representing well,
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm a bandeer of the Brazil of the United, because I'm there, Michelle,
Starting point is 00:25:20 because I want to the United, my friend, the life I have
Starting point is 00:25:23 today I have much, that to me, and I'd to thank you to the United for the opportunity
Starting point is 00:25:32 that they're doing, the life that I have here, I'm very great for this. And this,
Starting point is 00:25:38 this talk that the UFC you gave me the date of the date of and the other, and the
Starting point is 00:25:45 adversary, I don't know I don't know I don't know idea, there's a person who I'm asking
Starting point is 00:25:51 there, but I think they don't call us because we're both we're we're doing there.
Starting point is 00:25:56 So, I think he not he doesn't I think he's Rousse, I know, that's the Rasmus, yeah, that's the Ramos,
Starting point is 00:26:04 I don't see the thing, neither for me and for him to look at because we're trying, we have to
Starting point is 00:26:09 get to get who's there, I want to the guys, like, let me say that I'm
Starting point is 00:26:15 to look to him, for me it's a good thing, because he is now because he now is a
Starting point is 00:26:20 thing he he wants to because he's he can't to work with front, not to be to try
Starting point is 00:26:25 not, And then I'm I'm thinking I'm I'm going to I'm going to see what I'm now he's the
Starting point is 00:26:33 second he's a now he's so I'm interested in front of him for more than he's for me for me
Starting point is 00:26:38 for me he don't have to get me of this bitch you go to be and I'm manned I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:26:43 do for real my friend if he if he wants just just just but I
Starting point is 00:26:47 want more some like a like a night for us to make a one
Starting point is 00:26:51 to try some some some as some some is that's a lot. The person and the Nets
Starting point is 00:26:58 trocaning a little a stopper there. The thing that's a lot of a lot of the star I'm trying I'm going to
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm going to get back, baby, calm I'm going to when I'm there's no time to go to go and then
Starting point is 00:27:12 but I'm going you're going to you know, I don't know with you today? Ah, I don't know
Starting point is 00:27:17 I don't know I think I think I'm very perigoso for him, I don't if he would want to come to
Starting point is 00:27:23 not because I'm not I don't don't even can't but the FCC, you know what is. A part of a doider, from another, it's a lot of other, and it can't happen,
Starting point is 00:27:31 no see. Verdead. You're a guy that's, from the first of the beginning, that's one, you're one of those folks that, batting in the,
Starting point is 00:27:39 trying to get the Chimaev, in the moment, was the majority that didn't want to get this car, the guy, the guy, pica,
Starting point is 00:27:46 the guy, this, that's like, put, me, put, me, put it, put him, and the UFC, fidioninging
Starting point is 00:27:50 that I'm not, don't, let me be, let's get, don't, what you think you he's got there has a hype in
Starting point is 00:27:55 him up he apparently he will affect the gibbered durin in April but what is what is your opinion about this guy
Starting point is 00:28:01 this guy really is brabo or he's good but it's a bitch seven cabes that they're
Starting point is 00:28:08 I don't I don't this beast of seven cabes that we're we'll see the
Starting point is 00:28:12 the real Chima with a Luton N'n this Lota will be
Starting point is 00:28:16 there we can't we can't we're gonna we're who we maybe who,
Starting point is 00:28:23 also, not it's a problem, but it's he's a lot, he,
Starting point is 00:28:28 he, the Dourin. So, so, the Shimaev is a guy a good,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but he still, he even didn't, he's the guy, top for him,
Starting point is 00:28:37 I want to see he's really, he's, he's, but he is a
Starting point is 00:28:42 guy, I don't see this perigal, he's, he's very, he's very,
Starting point is 00:28:47 he's, not, he's, he's, he, and I'm let the loco there and
Starting point is 00:28:54 because I just lot more for the I'm going to do more to do a show for the people to
Starting point is 00:29:02 so I'm not a thing to get a and end up a lot of two minutes I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:29:07 do this if it's be a but it's I'm a good to go to go to
Starting point is 00:29:12 the second third but but I I don't I don't I'm not I'm
Starting point is 00:29:17 this bitch of seven the the guy no it's all the day that's all the online
Starting point is 00:29:23 poe shima ever he seems a guy very a guy who has been talent not to but I think
Starting point is 00:29:32 the hype grew so that's a way he was a frown he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:29:38 he was he was he was not nothing he was he had four two of three derotas
Starting point is 00:29:44 and then then he he didn't come come he came he got to a poor coitado that he was
Starting point is 00:29:49 he was streaking on fc he took a ball of his and then in the last year he picked the the Mischate
Starting point is 00:29:55 that's a guy who had experience in LFC Poh, beleasing the guy in 17 seconds was impressive
Starting point is 00:30:01 but but but for me the victory that really consolidated the guy is good and he was that he
Starting point is 00:30:06 was against the Chinese the Lingeen is a Chinese is a very too hard and he
Starting point is 00:30:10 went and he put the he took the car for he passed the car and he was so
Starting point is 00:30:13 okay this Chimaev this Chmyev is a good but now he he is good he
Starting point is 00:30:20 he is The whole ranking, that was a Ruehianian. It was a good. Now he saw the pattern different, which is the durin, if he did this with durin, if he did this with durin,
Starting point is 00:30:29 if he did this with durin, puttta that's the paris, no, does. The thing that is very good, of Wessle, he's a day of a kid of a
Starting point is 00:30:37 child, and Wessler is one of the arm that I think most top in the Lutte is Wessle. When the guy is good of Wesse, my brother,
Starting point is 00:30:45 it's a problem. But I don't I don't think this, this, it's like, I'll tell you know a example of Kabib, that's the guys are sinister in the West, my now, now put him to try and a,
Starting point is 00:30:56 oh, a box, we'll try there, go, but no, it's that, but it's a lot , it's, okay, but the guys, are, sinistern, are sinister, in the po'o of S.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And who can't talk to, I'm, my man, man, the Sos the S of the Crosters are foda, they're to respect, right? And you're a guy that has
Starting point is 00:31:17 the show of the show of the game and so, but the your base
Starting point is 00:31:22 is the true of the whole base, it's a division, a division a division full of
Starting point is 00:31:27 the wrestling, yeah, the top five of your division or is a wrestler or
Starting point is 00:31:32 it's a guy that the jiu-gitso like the how much how it's doing this
Starting point is 00:31:36 life in Las Vegas also to you to you get to eventually will get
Starting point is 00:31:40 to be the ranking you have to be to be to be back to get to
Starting point is 00:31:46 I have much confidence in my S, I trained much time the S, I've done in Belain, and I
Starting point is 00:31:53 I like very to West, so you see you have I have seen, I've never
Starting point is 00:31:59 got a get a to get to anyone. It's not I didn't get the guy
Starting point is 00:32:03 that's but I'm a guy that's a man that's a really
Starting point is 00:32:09 to fight with him is the Nick who has the right, the
Starting point is 00:32:15 there, but you don't can't take him from the arm's the because he has a brace very long
Starting point is 00:32:20 but I'm more more more more more than I'm that I'm always put more more than I'm
Starting point is 00:32:27 so I'm this advantage my man the guy can be good of west so that's but when
Starting point is 00:32:33 he enters on the man of a person of a and that he's he defends well
Starting point is 00:32:38 when the guy enter he comes he's playing he's trying he's trying in a port
Starting point is 00:32:43 yeah it's got Wessin my man You know? It's like the Primo of Kabib,
Starting point is 00:32:48 the guys are strong too, my man, then when you put a hand on the foot in the coitin' and goitia
Starting point is 00:32:54 and go ahead and go back because the guys are far too much, yeah. We have this the end of
Starting point is 00:32:59 the time, Marachev, that's trillating the same the same the cabib
Starting point is 00:33:05 is a different of your but you like you can't you feel
Starting point is 00:33:09 your opinion, you you're you're in the case of
Starting point is 00:33:13 They're He's just They've got to He's a He's a He's a No, they're to respect
Starting point is 00:33:18 The guys, the guys are the B.O, not, are the because the game
Starting point is 00:33:22 of Wessley is very, does very very well that's very very came, I remember
Starting point is 00:33:33 here now I'm here, I'm not I'm not to say the name of who was but,
Starting point is 00:33:37 but, but, and in the time there was a pandemic and then he
Starting point is 00:33:43 to go to train. He swore training there in the academy of Rafael. They're there to, you know, an hour, a time to go an hour to go
Starting point is 00:33:49 an hour to go to go the men. And then, he came to train there, now, I had been
Starting point is 00:33:58 a lot of five rounds in par. Then he got, the men who people, he got,
Starting point is 00:34:03 two, two, two, my, who was, who were, who were, and,
Starting point is 00:34:09 and, and, and, and, and, were to , train with the Russo,
Starting point is 00:34:13 also, to do Spahnies in there. Then it was the two to train with the Russo. He had to be trained
Starting point is 00:34:20 with me, he was to train with the Russo. My my man, I have a friend here that he is
Starting point is 00:34:26 like, he's a minute, two minutes no maximum. He does what he has been,
Starting point is 00:34:30 he, he, he licked and he gets a disgrasado, so he has a one
Starting point is 00:34:37 minute, two minutes in a minute and a minute and he does what he he has.
Starting point is 00:34:41 My brother, then he was with the Cabeb, yeah, and pah, chah, chah,
Starting point is 00:34:46 and pah on the other, and the palm of the part, and the prime of my friend, the man, the man,
Starting point is 00:34:54 he was, he was, the guy, I was thinking, I'm in the academy of the guys, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:35:01 the other, I'm putting it back, yeah, the vagabund and, and it's, my man,
Starting point is 00:35:06 and, and, and p' pal to one and chute, and bico-donah, Then it was a minute and a half, my man, what he did he did?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Pushed the other. Entra. Ah, my man, man. The vagabundooom cancour. In the way, he wasrode of a mass, no way.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Then he would get the other what he did. Entra. Rapace, when he entered when he tass, he just pushed
Starting point is 00:35:32 or, I'mcene. Entra. And pusho my other friend. My man, this primed of his Kabib, pah,
Starting point is 00:35:41 this bisch that this my other friend, and pea, cah, Pia, Pee,
Starting point is 00:35:47 Pee, P, he's deconted on. Desconted on him. He said, because he saw the
Starting point is 00:35:51 two, not he was, he said, he'd be, man, this, this, this,
Starting point is 00:35:55 this, this, this, this, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd,
Starting point is 00:35:59 he'd, and he'd to go, to one side, and to other, and we're just laughing,
Starting point is 00:36:05 oh, bababun, then, the, my other friend, who batte, and it waso,
Starting point is 00:36:12 that's the vicarbund. And this day in Sparne Me, the vagabund, did what had, in this my camp now, did what he had, but he got,
Starting point is 00:36:23 no, he got, to the form of the machine, I, I went to him, my man, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:36:28 I, I, I, back on him in the machine, there, we got, he came,
Starting point is 00:36:33 and he came, and what he did, and what he went here, in this thing, to do that,
Starting point is 00:36:38 and then, no, my mom, Come, come here, your final with me. Be here. And the Maritchev never never brought after this, too. Moose, B.O. B.O. Grand.
Starting point is 00:36:50 You're a do-do, eh. How is the Pitchonade, for the people who don't know. I have my own thoughts, because it's much thing, you know, car. And much a lot of things, I'm doing, I'm trying to doormine.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I'm, you know, when it's a little sonn'in that you feel like you're thinking in the life. And then when it's I'll create a girl, a goal
Starting point is 00:37:12 that's a way, you know, there's a good man, man, if not,
Starting point is 00:37:17 how can't remember? You asked the the pitch on night, is? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:22 The pitch on night, oh, it's a campbalota to the front, that I
Starting point is 00:37:27 take a carcane the, I did tell the last my lot,
Starting point is 00:37:30 yeah, yeah, this is can't do you do you do you can do?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Do you, da, This your list of the goal to be the paper your block that you're inventing how are inventing
Starting point is 00:37:46 how are how are ined how are you do you know there's got there's a dog there's there's gop
Starting point is 00:37:55 there there can't never say it's possible that this man is this no it's it's impossible
Starting point is 00:38:01 because like the that I'm that I'm a starling and I'm a mortal who said
Starting point is 00:38:07 that that who did that who did and nobody did I did. So it's a part of the
Starting point is 00:38:12 one, the guy is to do you do that's the thing that I do with, the world will be,
Starting point is 00:38:19 will be able to get a dog in this goal? How many of these goals you are you are illegal? None one.
Starting point is 00:38:27 No, because there are some, there's a way, for example, there's a one of the head to
Starting point is 00:38:35 the car, but I'm going to get in the same coat of the leg, but he's, but he's a,
Starting point is 00:38:40 no, no, no saco. It's illegal, but it happens in the lot, it's like a lot
Starting point is 00:38:46 that I do the Kange-leytown, right? The Fum-Mix that I do you take the salt,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I don't take to go to the car, to get in the car, to come in the car, no, it happens,
Starting point is 00:38:57 my friend, I, I'm, I'm, to me pass a guard, but I, so the
Starting point is 00:39:04 secret of success is the risk, man, there's a risk, I'm just imagining how is
Starting point is 00:39:09 Michel Pereo in the games of Pride, with all the title of a meta, pisong, then the sky you're at
Starting point is 00:39:15 the same the limit, you know, you're liberate, disblocking the code the video game and be
Starting point is 00:39:21 putting the little bit like a porrada in the ring, yeah? Yeah, it would be mass,
Starting point is 00:39:26 it would be more, and with this, it would be the goal to do you know, but the most those meows
Starting point is 00:39:35 of those meals here, no, it's a lot, it, it's, it's, to happen.
Starting point is 00:39:39 But, I don't think in doing to make a legal to the guy.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You have done a event that could be a time? No, no, not I did,
Starting point is 00:39:52 because this is more of the old, not an old, I'm a MMA, I'm
Starting point is 00:39:57 14 years. Actually, he's just on the RIS and one, that can, Tives of
Starting point is 00:40:04 METT and so. No, Rise, you can a porre total, you know, one also
Starting point is 00:40:08 can't do wheeled in the head. It's a car, so, so, who's, who's
Starting point is 00:40:13 maybe, who's not, you know, to try the assal of the reque you want, and it's
Starting point is 00:40:18 a nice, so it's too, so it but there, there's, there's, there's, there's,
Starting point is 00:40:25 in my last lot, the judge was very, the judge, was very, I, I,
Starting point is 00:40:29 I, I said, he said, oh, Michelle, I don't to put you, part to
Starting point is 00:40:33 puny, you disclassific, nothing. But, but I'm going to do you're here to do your
Starting point is 00:40:38 and you're here to do you know, take your self, do your because I don't want to,
Starting point is 00:40:46 I'm not here to disclassfical or to try a point your, know, want to do you take a
Starting point is 00:40:53 matter, perfect. The other not, there are some who say, oh, if you do
Starting point is 00:40:59 be disclassified, it will be but it's but I'm, but I'm, I don't, I want, I want,
Starting point is 00:41:02 I want, I don't want to get a poltoran. You know, and I'll put a me to me. You can't class, the car, declassific. Now I'm going to do you guys. You're a doider. Of what the other thing is? What?
Starting point is 00:41:15 What was the habit that that said? I think that the Krauswielas. The guy said, the judge. It was the same act as well as the other.
Starting point is 00:41:25 The Russian. The U.S. The U.S. There, no. No. No. No, they now, because I I don't create
Starting point is 00:41:35 I even in the game of the UFC, I think I don't know I'm doing to do not, because it's possible. They'll have to be going to create the shows, no. I'm not, I'm going to create
Starting point is 00:41:45 this porre here, man, there's, there's a guy, there's not, it's not, that's the devil's it's me that's really, that's not,
Starting point is 00:41:53 it's a man, but I can't be a team new, you know, but it's a designer to put it, for putting together to create the
Starting point is 00:41:59 jobs, not it's easy, Man, man. It's a Foda. My cabarad just to
Starting point is 00:42:04 have a question to get a lot of you know, I don't remember after which was I'm going to
Starting point is 00:42:11 I think it's I'm going to interview with you not, not, not, not, not because he
Starting point is 00:42:17 will be going to go to he's all so he's going to he's going to no,
Starting point is 00:42:22 no, but he's going to be he's going to how he's like he he went to the car,
Starting point is 00:42:27 he went to to beck he was he this, who's what this? who came to come a pickup
Starting point is 00:42:32 to travel to travel to Brazil, of Brazil, of a car? How is that... It was, that... It was... It was the idea. I have a friend
Starting point is 00:42:41 who's a marie, right? It's the guy that I'm with him seven years in the Paras when I'm...
Starting point is 00:42:47 It was the man who gave the room of life, was the guy who me who's the man...
Starting point is 00:42:53 It's the principal, it was for his it's for the car of him, that I'm who I'm who is
Starting point is 00:42:58 And then I and he, my man, we have some ideas very similar, you know, we're in a lot in, we're there's,
Starting point is 00:43:04 we're, there's, we're, we're, I have a car bachana, top. And then,
Starting point is 00:43:11 pa, no, so what, go to Brazil to the car, but, we,
Starting point is 00:43:15 we, we, we, then I, my other, my mother, and the other,
Starting point is 00:43:20 Fabbo, yeah, most, more, but, oh, that I, oh,
Starting point is 00:43:26 you, you, want me me, you, negative of my side. Not be negative
Starting point is 00:43:31 when you're going to be I don't people negative people who don't say a train that's not
Starting point is 00:43:36 not a not even if I think I'm going to get I'm sorry I'm my brother call your
Starting point is 00:43:42 call your your don't want to you're in you're in you're in get to be bad
Starting point is 00:43:47 to get a negative with me not and I and I'm and I'm so much
Starting point is 00:43:51 so we're we're going we're we're we're not no my man we're just
Starting point is 00:43:56 we're we're par, do it, get all the way, we sit there one hour,
Starting point is 00:44:03 two hours for us program a rota and call, my woman, I'll say, she's,
Starting point is 00:44:08 she's, not that woman, her, that's, she's, no, my wife,
Starting point is 00:44:14 I said, we're going, she's, we're going, she's, my wife, and then, I'm in
Starting point is 00:44:19 Marin, we, we're, when we're, when we're we, we went, my,
Starting point is 00:44:22 we went, we, we went, par, no, many things-s-y-you-you-go-you-your-your-old, like, my car. I still not quitted him, no, my car. Then, it would be a document cuted.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And it was, more or less, just that. Because my car, I had just got to buy him, right? I had to have my car. But I already said, Mar-in, when I quit my car, no, because it's one of my son, is this voyage. Because it's a voyage that everyone does, my man, my man, my brother
Starting point is 00:44:57 that I'm going to do and that I'm going to do. But we're going to do it. And then when we went to see the road, my
Starting point is 00:45:03 man, par, no, we'll make to make the process, let me take the car the first, and we're talking to
Starting point is 00:45:09 this route. I imagine that would be going to be a little 10 countries, I'd have to have to have
Starting point is 00:45:16 to be a thing in America Central, not, not be a problem not much not.
Starting point is 00:45:20 No, no, so difficult, because I I've conversed with three people that have done these are these guys these guys are
Starting point is 00:45:28 all the world all right of motor, of car and I came to contact because these guys and I went to ask you say, I'm sure
Starting point is 00:45:34 super-tru so super-trile like this year and more three, so for us go and reversing we're driving
Starting point is 00:45:42 we're going to run in six hours, two in six hour we we're in six hours we're in our city, will take one
Starting point is 00:45:51 to come a one, then we're going to do so when it's when it's the morning and we're because it's the thing it's a
Starting point is 00:45:58 night, you know, in a place you know in the other that's not that's but in the day it's super-tanko and then
Starting point is 00:46:05 there's a Panama, you know that's a it's a mess the canal of Panama yeah it's the canal there you
Starting point is 00:46:12 get a put the car in a container there, get the other back the it's a way, it's a
Starting point is 00:46:18 day, I'm a viage of so I'm I see, tranquill, right? I'm so, I'm so, I'm
Starting point is 00:46:24 just, I'm here to come to come back to do you, do you know, do you know, a week with Michelle Pereira
Starting point is 00:46:30 and I'm in there, so. I'm going to roadies, there, then, well, no,
Starting point is 00:46:36 no way, no, it's a hour, to do you're to do that, then, a part of
Starting point is 00:46:41 this, that's, not, you're a person, no, so, so,
Starting point is 00:46:45 so, so you're, so you're doing this you'll see very this way to see
Starting point is 00:46:49 that's a nice to be nice to be a thing that there's a thing that I'm not
Starting point is 00:46:54 where I'm that I'm there's a there's like in the top of the planet I don't see
Starting point is 00:47:00 you can't see that but then we're gonna but then we're gonna we're gonna there's gonna
Starting point is 00:47:05 yeah there's there's much much yeah no and to
Starting point is 00:47:09 we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we we're
Starting point is 00:47:15 we're is very great. Uh-huh. It's a but I don't want to get the same.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm going to because a second one because one a vogue, because who go to do you don't have
Starting point is 00:47:26 bebe, right? And then a vaga is to not a car chachin of a gelada this
Starting point is 00:47:31 this is a better than better than better. I didn't know. It's not it's a but it's
Starting point is 00:47:39 but it's so far then it is my first the car is my my
Starting point is 00:47:43 that's it. So we're not so we're not, my mom. Thank you. My man, always a pleasure to talk about you. No,
Starting point is 00:47:49 I'm going to this one of my end of May, continue rebuting and continue being you, but not,
Starting point is 00:47:55 not, not, not, not, not, not, not, the person,
Starting point is 00:47:59 a guy, and blah, blah, blah, just to get, but important is it's a important is you
Starting point is 00:48:03 too, right, yeah, we're preza for this then, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:48:08 I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, when I get those my friends, he says,
Starting point is 00:48:13 oh, my show, I thought that I thought I'd have a name's in old, you know, I'm a other life, and the guy,
Starting point is 00:48:20 I thought, I thought, you know, I'm not, my friend, I'm not, my life, I'm not, my own,
Starting point is 00:48:26 life, but I am the same person, , I'm the same person, like the family, to come to
Starting point is 00:48:33 call, I, he's talking to him, oh, Michelle, I'm different, Michelle is different, it's different,
Starting point is 00:48:38 no, so what, He, he He got, he came out, he went with me here, he went to
Starting point is 00:48:42 a week, he came to get me to put a porcelanata in the house here, and then he said, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:48:51 I'm saying, I'm the same person, I'm just more in the on- the world, I'm just, but I'm
Starting point is 00:48:57 more, you know, we can't be better, and this is that is the good and I'm going to be those things good,
Starting point is 00:49:03 so. With the importance, I'm sorry, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, rebeater,
Starting point is 00:49:08 there, man, my man, my man, my man, God, God,
Starting point is 00:49:27 we're just a lot of podcast, and I'm thank you, this time of the podcast, thank you, I'm going to a week, there's a company of the same,

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