MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Neiman Gracie no topo do Bellator e o renascimento de Marlon Moraes

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

O Trocação Franca dessa semana recebe Neiman Gracie e Marlon Moraes, que voltam às jaulas em momentos distintos na carreira. Neiman lidera o Bellator 274 desta sexta-feira, contra Logan Storley, em busca da vitória que pode garantir uma chance ao cinturão, e fala, ainda, sobre a inspiração em Fabrício Werdum, a eterna rivalidade Renzo x Wallid, e muito mais. Escalado para o UFC de 12 de março, contra Song Yadong, Marlon comenta o camp na Tailândia, o susto que levou ao passar 11 dias em um “hospitel” com COVID, a situação delicada na carreira e a saída de Amanda Nunes da ATT. O podcast recebe, ainda, o jornalista Vitor Freitas para debater as vitórias de Adesanya, Moicano e D’Silva no UFC e a aguardada luta entre André Galvão e Gordon Ryan no ADCC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. This week’s Trocação Franca welcomes Neiman Gracie and Marlon Moraes, who face different scenarios ahead of their upcoming fights. Gracie, who headlines Friday’s Bellator 274 opposite Logan Storley aiming another shot at the gold, discusses having Fabricio Werdum as an inspiration, the never-ending Renzo vs. Wallid rivalry, and more. Moraes, who battles Song Yadong on March 12, weighs in on his camp in Thailand and the 11-day nightmare with COVID, plus his complicated skid in the UFC and Amanda Nunes’ decision to leave ATT. Brazilian journalist Vitor Freitas stops by to break down the top UFC 271 storylines and the highly anticipated ADCC match between Andre Galvao and Gordon Ryan. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, my friend of Lutta,

well, the 24th episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a your house on this immense potter spheria. I'm Glearmes, correspondent, the site American M.M.F.I.F.O. Brazil, I'm back

this quarter Friday, in Marlon Morais and Neiman Grace, who have lots duras down in the UFC and in Belatto. But, before I'm going to be a talk to

a talk to Victor Freight, journalist, that man and dismanda in the world of Jiu-Gitz. All right, man, man. All right, very excited to be participating of this

podcast here. I'm who who's a timeon. I'm very happy for a invite. BORA. A man, a honor to have

you here. We finally have someone who know what's talking. That's, so, I want first

to talk with you about the FC that's the first the end of the end of the Israel,

Adesanne, getting the Robert Whitaker, more one way, making the freguessia there, but I wanted to

the serious to to talk first about the first of the first of the British, the United States and two

for Matalian the two and the guy who you pressonor more, who he's most, was the

boycano or the girl sure of the child to go to the and finalize this pedriar that came

from Kazakhstan it's a classic, yeah, Jiu-Jitsu Salva and in M.M.A. in an high-nive

that's you need to know Jiu-Gitz even that you don't goch to train or think chate but you

need to do Jiu-Gitz for being a luteur we see the Charles of Bromps and today

is our champion and he's he's deadon all the whole that you're you need

the part in pay and everything, but the shan, the wrestling there, you need to know,

Renato Moikam has a jujitsu very good, he's a athlete, finalisado, he's a foot in

foot, is a foot, is a very, pougated to see him re-encontra

your good, good moment, yeah, and I became very, very, very,

very, very, very, very, very, very, very, but he

can't put it to put up to to look so I hope that he has a sequence

good of victories to be finalization spectacular a matta leon yeah yeah

he's fable gorgel one of the major champions of jiujits says that the

facha black that he has he has he has to define the lute

so he's he got and he is a guy he was investing

about much he did a lute a lute with a lute with

a I even I said I talked to because he'd want to because he'd wanted to make but he'd be able to get in this other than

this other than it's good, it's a fia the game that obviously he don't parrower to train MMA but as this other

marked he gave a focus more in the Jiu-Jitsu and it shows the difference that he does when he he goes to

the F.C. Because the level of the ground of the ground of the hand of the hand to the other part-MATC

yeah and it's important to say that we talk of Jiu-Gitz but it's more grappling that is a sport

different. I don't know if the Renato have put a kimono to train but the fact you train

grappling, make a camp to do that is what is the that's growing much now parallel to

Jiu-Jitsu in the point of the Gordon Rai the DCC and Dr. Galvon so it's

having much the people are doing money with Grapling so Renato

with a camp of grappling to look and came been afiado to look at a FIC

in VIN to victory it's always important you're trying to learn to look at because it's

very different you train grappling to look at a F.C and it's very different you train

to do make a lot to do do a lute so he came up for this look

chown afiated and part in Pern Perns and Andrew Galvon

the Lutton the Luton the Luton which is a faxed rocha formed by the Galvon, and he won't he never had to use the

the job of the show of his own but what you think you're, you're trying to you're not interested, you're not with the dominion

that he has been more apparently of the first, the first of him with the first of the first of he took the car

the Iovulio really from there but what you have found this domino of his car, the general

Adesani is really really other level. I believe that when the athlete has the same a moment, he can't even err

or the adversary encosting on him to make a lot of but he always will do a way to wince. Because he's living in a better

moment, he not be a ball, so we see that he has a mental very strong when the fight endurces, he continues

in the same he doesn't the rhythm and it and it happens much. Apesa, he's a

facha roach I don't see the Jujit of him even in MMA but he is a a guy who

who's a guy who's a lot of the way he's about the minute about the guy that's

he's really he's quite confident for when when he's he's he's recently in Aos

he trained for Kainan Doart Lucas Ruggson are guys that are getting a championship in the most

high level and he's being in the best moment so I think he's an athlete

spectacular but but very animated for the the fight of him happen

with the one of the only the guy who was the only the guy who let's see that this is a

little bit in the end maybe a thing you know what you this is a lot of everyone trying to

see you know, I think the point the bad to do a market impusional

it's direct to the centuron the blindado is 3-0 UFC 3 in incoose

impugent not not a top 15 but car no matter in all the world. Who he will be in front after, for example,

now, for example, now, for example, and then, he's the judge canonia. Belea, and so, I'm there he's really,

that's been through the way, the way, the plan, the banded blinded, he's, he does,

he does, he does, he does, but he's, because, no, have the story, there,

everyone can't be this lot, all the whole everyone, also, he said, also,

but not now, because the Poatan, have to be prova, and, but, but,

but the marketing is what is the next so no end up no, the Poitan has to gain a set in the FC is the cacete man,

if Poetan got the blindado do you did what he did with a preya, what he did get to the top

15, man bea-bye, bejut the chintrano direct, right? Galera have to understand

we've been a world a we live in a world midiatic the era the era of digital

so no don't have so if you so can use a microphone on your a hand in an interview for those luthers, you pull two, three cases.

And who can't do you, it's a back back. A example of this, that not soobu used to a moment, was Ronald Jacaree, you know, it's, it may not be a lot to say something, to promote. I, as a fan of Jiu-its, I'd like he'd spit the centurion of the FC, but

not had this opportunity, so athletes have a microphone, say-one, say-one, say, don't know, you know, obviously, you don't be a man-grey-a-d-d-vite, to shingar and but you have

to do your marketing and the only the only person who can destroy this marketing that the

website is you know you know that's you can't be a blinded so I think

this will be a motivation to he to break this number of

houses that you potan put for you know

you from the public you work how it's the

mentality today this side of the world of jiugits because

I I don't I accompany more of the world of Jiu-Gitts, that I'd, I'd much M.A. Ex-Juitts, too. Today, it's only M.A. in M.A. Fait. How is it, because in that era

there was a lot of Jiu-Gi-A., not really this law midi-astical, no Jiu-Jitsu and in the Grafing. How is it, the athletes, are opening the head? Or there's that guy who don't like in the interview, that's a fechadown-memma,

like the k-mahed in the guys came to the can't do many success as athletes, but they're many people who me do, meow, continue being

meal, not going to be vishes, but he evolved much in the part of

communication, to interact with the fans, you know in the social, but so,

like, to put a camera in a front, the microphone, he still he still a little

retraided. But, many, the athletes pared to think, and saw,

and they were, they've been that because, today, we have an

athlete in Jujits Fax Preta, and not three times more

with a champion world that is patristened by the same company, because the

guy knows to communicate better, the guy and he has done the media social,

so it so much there's some people, there are some people who think it's quite that

is quite in the MMA, the guy say, I'm going going to be a

microphone here to me, for me, for I can be always, always the always the

always, always the It's always the after the first you make to be a second after your victory.

It's just another person got over. So in the Jujit's today is he is being done a lot of many of the

athletes that I have a vergoner the guy thinks that will be mal-interpreted I'm saying you will be

mal-interpreted if you say from your line of the racocin of what you are so you don't have to

create a personage everyone thought that would be a a Gregor of the life and not is

he's a unique as well as like Chayyosone was unique so you have to use the fact what you are to be to promote

being you being real in the world today so mediatic for a person that is real she can go back

in a question of media well that's something that's the person go back and gets quiet

in the when I get a world Jiujitsu I will do my name

then he will go and he will go and go and see a interview and then he's

a tatam. It was a summer next week. Someday you you're a year, you're a

person who's people who people continue to do you know, you don't have an interview for the

vehicle every single so you do an one way, it's a end up, if you're not

creating with you, you're saying, you're not be a not be not been because you

have a question, but you don't have been because you don't have much interesting

in the M.A. It's a There's people who think, no. When I get a microphone, then I will talk. You have to say before, because you have to create the interest of the people. If you can't, if you vense, oh, legal, I've beence, but I'm

I'm going to go-you-before-you- for you. For example, the Tyler Santos, because it's very well in the FC, various victories, and the last one of November, she finalized a Joan and Calde-Wood. The victory fantastic.

Four, four-segues in the FC, is embaladishma, one of the possible the two-disaffirants of the Valentina Tieffixta, because she was limping the category, so, can't say that Tyler can't be the next, or can't be more one, dispute, cinturon.

In the interview for Lutta, I remember if it was in October, or not if it was in the collective, they asked for her, like, the next pass, and all, I'll, I'll, I'll, go converser with my trainers, no, I have a name in mind, but I don't say now.

Like, I don't want to say now. Because, now you have the quantity of cameras in your front, the world entire, you're watching, you don't say now, you're going to

say it. You're going to in November. A we're in February. Passed on three months. She never said,

she never said no more than no other for her. And, you know, being said, being so

that's going to be gross and so with her like, but, man, she's important,

with who she got, she got, a three months, that was the moment she was the

time, you were, you passed the three months, you don't make sure, to be

to create interest for the people who's people who's the process this problem not in my mind that's

this part of this part of the time of the value that you got you've got you have to convince the night

of the night to get to get to do that the night if you're keep quiet on your car is you

don't do that you know no way that's an excellent example of this it was a guy who never did talk

to say to say the there's a after the moment he perceived it he came to more vocal,

like I said, but, but, but it's not not done and it's a way that's a lot of than the way

than the tally, yeah. Yeah, you see that the athlete perj the time, the athlete

today, he invests in all, he invests in a trainer, he vest in nutritionist, he invests in

camp, he invests all to get there to get to but he not invests in the image,

I never will understand this, it's in M. And in Jiuits, if you

go to get the Instagram of the looters top 10, talking of the Brazilian, especially the

women, who are in the UFC, you go, in the social, there's not nothing,

nothing, she doesn't nothing, she doesn't put a highlight, she doesn't a image about,

you're going, you're doing a interview with the guy, and if you know, you know,

in the Jjito suffer much with this. The guy a photo your, the guy,

no, no, no, no, or not training or not not loting. Rar exercises

when when when you get never to get to but it's much better you're much better you're

not going to you know, you know, you know to be able to because imagine today we

we're living like I said the world mintiatic an an athlete who

can't say he's he is Brazilian imagine if he receive an

opportunity to be an opportunity to talk see that there are many Americans comment on,

but the guy never was great things, but he received this opportunity. The time, the career

will be very major. So I think you have to invest in media like you invest in

the food, preparation physical, not you can let you that's also important.

It's also more a prerequisito. It's a important is. It's true one of

the main to promote the image to do your to grow to be a podcast

Toca's Song-Franca, the best podcast of Brazil. And it's for that now we're going to go to Thailand to talk with Marlon Morais,

who infrented the Chinese Song and Adong in Marche, the interview starts just as just a rapid intervalal commercial. From the other

side of the line now we have Marlon Morais that on the day 12 of March have been caught with the Chinese Song and Adong

in UFC. All right for you, my friend welcome to podcast. Bebeza, to talk

with you I'm more one way, we're in back in the victory. With certainty

Kamara, you decided do you do you do you know, training with a lot of people,

with a lot of Tai, why time? Why, why? You've seen this need a day of this way and do the

other side of the world? Caring, I've been a little a little previs

too, too, my decision was to do the camp all here. I came

to pass a month training I was doing the John he called on the trainer of box here, the car is a very good and I resolved to come to train a

place different, give a, a focus-d-me- a-of-a-meree from the family, all the more, of the kids, do a more

a focus-a-career even, specific to go to the academia, to go to house, and to the academy, and,

car, it was very good, it was very very, but, but, unfortunately I I've

a problem with COVID in Bangkok then I I perished some days of training and as

it would be a very little time here and even have to go to Florida to

get to come to the and the most coaches the Mike Brown

and they go to Las Vegas to the Lutas and will

have there other there too a more and encounter with them directly in Las Vegas just a two

two semans of my lute and I never go in my house, in Florida, I go direct

to there and get focused in this way in this next a lot. Conversing with you about this

case of COVID that got it got to you're getting to surprise to forcing

to be isolated for some some how it was this period what exactly

what exactly happened how were these days of the door of

in the head in Thailand? Ah, it's just it's not there's much to say more

but it's a little really a few some days pereng, yeah, the language

and all the food and the people to people the hospital was all

the hospital was all in English so it was it's all in Thailand

they're not was it's my complicated but let's get

with a an Apprenticeado and it was just a moment to me,

to be a for I valorize more even this venda here and I'm going to do much the days

I'm here the days that I've got I was I'm very difficult, poor, I'd say

to be the more rapidly possible and it was a Diana, Diana, she was

I'm in last I'm just, but, poor, it was very good, very good

being to coming to come to be training here, are training in the academy that there are many,

many, many, the guys of durs, especially in trocaation. And I think it's that we're going to be in front of this next lot. What you say,

what you're in, what are you? What are you? It's a hospital, a hospital, not, an hospital, but I think

it's a little more even than than the hospital because we could say to the court, but,

but, we pass for some we're a Brazilian and we're in front of

anything and it's not it's not, but I went in the I've beency I'm here

you're you're in some years to the when this all you did you were

that she was a problem a problem so I will be me prepare well

I'm gonna be able to get back this lot, a lot a lot very

important for me in this moment of my career a moment that I

need this victory a moment that I I need to prove my value for the FC

and, and, and, car, continue to I'm doing that I know,

I'm going to be able and I'm going to happen. And I got to I, I

got a really, I'm feeling very well, and I know the better to let's

I never out of no lot and not be this I came to me

try and this man. Mm-hmm. The this is not the first time

you get the COVID unfortunately, not? Yeah, it's the second I think the COVID got a little bit of me

I did two times and I took the three vaccines but unfortunately I pegged two times even so but let's let's go back

God, not was nothing very grave that's what important thank you it was nothing we've talked in private I also I also

I'm I'm in fact I was in my family little year nine months my wife you have also the

side positive is that you've been to say, you're doing this long as you're with two children, no, you're in this source of the

other way. So, another way I took it, I left to get in the academy and it was

I passed to all the house, so you feel a little bit so I got a

and I took to confront so soon. This was a lot of also, too, I'm not, after you

after you after you did you finally was finally your camp in Thailand. How was this experience? Was it the first time you trained in in the Taiga? You had to visit it?

No, my first time here. I got very, much organization, a quality of life that is very good, we who don't come to here, not know, they have a academy, so, also, also, the academy, so,

the, food, the, supplementation, all the most, the coach also, it was a

good, I'm very received here they're very far, were very being a athlete of

American Top Team. I was very well received for this this month that I

would train to but we we decided for for for to get a

more more more and it's being very very and

let's I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not I'm I think no,

I have no, I have certain that of all my Lutas until I think I

never trained I never can't be able to the media social you know you know

you know you know but the people who posta Piterian O'Simaev is there yeah

yeah yeah Favrius Andrade Pesugal La Duan also did to see you know

so you did see the chance if you were the if you had been if you had been

you'd be sure but but the academy is ched yeah exactly

and there even the more Galera, that's not much known, it's being

very good, especially for me, there's a very striker good, here, much russe,

good of wrestling. Here, it's like you are in Russia. It's a russia, so, the people

there's a guy there also, that's a opportunity to train with the group of those guys

were very very hard, it's can't really can't because the guy is a champion,

because the guy is so well, dedication maybe, trainingment, There, por, some guys that train them

and, car, it's being very good for me, I'm very happy, and I'm I'm really

to be able to work. It was a time that I 'm going to I'm going about, but two

things that are bad now, the family, the want to get to all the

whole lot, and I think here the time sufficient, and I can't be able

to put the there in Las Vegas and I'm a lot a victory

in this this next one a victory that's a boy, the people are going to say,

a carac, this guy this guy really prepared for this guy really prepared to after that's a camp

you're in maybe a lot of you're doing this yeah, you know, after that's not a TET or something. That's the idea,

my idea was to come to come to pass a month, but the my lute was the lot came to me a little, a little a little before, a little before I imagined.

And I don't continue to do what I planned, but the plan was this. I like too of the training from the American Top Team. I'm also, I

hope I'm very much here, and I hope to be able to pass some months here and terminate my camp in American Top Team. It's very good, an adequate, to start

a camp, car, if you're habitua, it's, very cold, very,

very, cold. The academies here not air-condionated is very so you really,

you know, when I know, when I'm not, it's not so, the guy, the guy

does be really really I'm, I'm, but the first second time,

it's impossible to train. The The people get here, if came to come to to come, because, boy, it's very hot,

much pushed the train. You've got to get some for having been in quarantine, not isolated in quarters, or so you

got two, six, it was once of trying to you may be to disacelerer a little. When you

you enter, when you enter, in this ambentate, you think, carlal, you know, I'm, wow,

two semans here was been complicated. Like, poor, much, much, much,

push the training and to get to you get in the level of the car, because, po, the guys are here in time a lot, the people are just accustomed to the cold, it's complicated, and, you know, look, you're looking at a

place, but you know ask, but, you know, we're going to train at a-cademia that's better, that's nothing, man, abaffed, no, there's a-conditioned in a place anywhere here, no, no, no, no, it's to come to figure, even with

the cold, you, is, you know, this, this, this team, por, gigante, that was the side, who, who, is the guy who most colled in you in you know in the day-a-day

that's the day of the time? The main the principal here for me was the experience

to be able the coach of box the coach of the box of Peter Yan also, John,

John Hudson, a guy a Irish, a guy much a man who he got he got

he got two he was a champion with Peter Yan and now he got

he came he got to the centuron too of the UNFC with an And, boy, it's a really a guy

priority-noticed, a guy who, uh, the base of box. And I think for me, it's being,

so, fundamental. And it's a guy that's a part of box, but also the part of

conditionationation and you condition to really, to let out the five rounds of a way,

you, po, you want, you want, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I've been this guy, to learn with him, to learn with all the team here, but for me the piece fundamental,

with the piece was to have known the way with he worked with the country, here in Thailand, is a place

a lot of having been here to have seen here in this place, I'm going to get to my family

too, in the most camps, I want to my family know, and I

know, the people, the people, the, that, you know, it's a you think it's

much long, but it's a good good very good you're a good good, you're

very well, I'm very I'm very being a person who's the quality of life here is a

food, a person, a mossa for a person, people who live, everyone and does,

come, see, people in the people in the people, so, it's a, it's a,

it's a, a, so, and for who can't the opportunity to know,

It's a place that I indico, not just for the guy who wants to but also the guy who likes to sport, is a place that receive very well the tourists. I'm very happy to have known here, to have passed

all this camp here, and I'm going to walk, I'll go back. But to convince her your spouse Isabella, he will have to say to her that you'll have to go back with a car with a functionate,

that's tranquil. I think she'll she will like, she's a very cool, car, the place here

is very, it's been, very, very, mannero, man, so we can't be to be

the part of the training, I imagine that you, you said, the difference of the person to be

a difference of he's great, but you know, or then, or then, he's a man,

he's a monster to be, that I'm sure, because I don't think I'm not I'm not

the time of the most of the time, but you the most of a athlete of a is a

guy who train every day, train very day, a man rapid, perigorous. It's a guy who can't even

try me derobar, could even be trying to wrestling, but not is what he does. So I think if he's

trying to do this, he can be problem, because it's not not, it's a pedigree

there, the lot of a lot of the guy that will be playing in par with me

to try me to try to be a goal to me knockoutier but I also I'm

there's a lot of I'm going to try exactly these things that he will try to knockoutia him,

try to set up the many goals and I think my my game comes very with him it's a

lot that is a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of the qualities he

we've we've seen he knockoutia the guys I've all the to move a little bit of your game, obviously

have finalizations, you know, but you're a guy who likes to about this to try to try a porrada and sometimes you think,

I'm gonna try a porhita with him but looking these Jiu-Giots of his jiu-jits of his, man, it's be more

more easy to get him than if for the war in-pair? He don't not, I don't know

to look to the ground, he gets discomfortable if he if he tried me derubed it's been

great, we'll be emboled and it be very good for me, very good for what we're looking at this but we're going to

I'm going to play MMA, I'm going to go to get to make sure, he's a guy perigoso, I know of this, but I also am very very dangerous and I'm very

prepared and confiant, I have certain that a great lot is coming there. When you put the head on a trabecero

and imagine the the lute, there's a disfetched that you see happening as times, you're in the cartiado

of him, you finalizing 30 disfeasch different yeah yeah every time every total goal

that we do we do the time we know the whole finalization you see the guy

getting the so it's difficult so you say but all the scenarios I me

vees so with this I'm going and car it's engasged

this victory I'm I go go back to get this victory

and my hour yeah remember you remember that you renovable with FC

before to dispute the centuram with Cerewood in 2019 and to last you did a

last in the contract? You still have to get to do you know, or even that's that's the

contract? But it's that's the first the first the last fight, and your

last fight can be the first so you never know it's of your performance you have to

get to get a show and getting to be a lotator that,

that, that's, that you get the people, that you're gonna that's spirit that I'm going to be in,

I'm going with the spirit to say in the way, put my style there in the octagon more one way,

I'm going to get a victory, I want a victory, but I have a certain that I'm going to be

showing, there in the same, you know, it's a lot of the lot of, and we're

going to continue, and the contract, we can't be the first as it can be the

last, or the last, it can be the first, and I'm a kind of a job well, I'm going to

be aggregating to the company, and the day that I'm never having more, we'll

talk about, and we'll get the we're going to make the working, I'm trying, I'm trying,

I'm trying, I'm not I'm trying to look and to show to all the world where I

I'm, I'm I'm at the level of these guys, I'm I'm certain,

and we'll turn the and we'll look at the top. The top is the place where we

want to get and there's there's a lot in the end of the end of the contract, because they can

end up the contract, even you know to win to get to get to and they're never you

know, the FCC is of Lul so, but in this moment you're living today, to want to

give back to the last three luts you've got three of the world you've got I was I'm going to be

what the importance of this LUTA to define your future in NFC? You carry a more more for this, not? Cair, before to come to

come to that I, I thought I was my last chance, my ultimate chance of a repent, but since I came here here, I'm going to tryna, I'd be just the

first, man, it's the first of many of many. I have been a great performance and we're we'll start to work

all the new. We'll look a pass to every we're going

to get this lot we're going to get to this, and then we're

a degree of every every and I say, I'm, how I have a

work, you have seen work, you know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I

see the world, I'm a lotator of the FC and I have the quality

for this. And, let me get I, I I have

certain that's all the we're we're in we're in we're in we're in

we're in three semans and a lot and I think we're going to get to get back on mania

mania just to you're you're not you're not those years but I'm sure you

accompanied the distance or conversating with the people of the decision of Amanda Nunes

to have done the time after the derrata to Julianna PEN

to make the revanche of her now. All the what I convinced

of the TET since then didn't not didn't get a little surprised

yeah yeah I'm like this decision of the how you're

when you know that's yeah I'm not I'm not yeah I'm not the dedication

of her last time she had some some some imprevis, but she was always in the academy,

she dedicating. And it's a champion, I'm a certain that this is just a pen as a trypest, it could happen with any one.

It happened there, it was the day of her, and I have been trying to now, I'll talk for

her, the same manner, not just for I know, but to be a Brazilian, and she,

she will do be, and will be, she, she, she is much better than this man, and I

have a win if she she she'll train at T, if she train at BTT or in the

new union or any any other she's a she's a much more more than she's

she'll be going to be going to be going to be the champion that she she's she's

she've got that they will work with her in the Tuft but even two they've

already were the ATT yeah the Roger Crown I think that's like the name

of him and Cami Barzine I don't you've got to know to know,

these people, he's, he's, he's, he's, the guy, he's, very good

coach. The roger is a guy, I've, I'm a time, in 2014,

in 2014, 2013, 2014, I did a lot, and the Anderson didn't

see, and it came to he, he's a very good too good too,

it, it's a man, he's a other ATT, he's a man, a good

a good trainer, and the Camille, then he's the father of wrestling, he worked there's

very in the TTA and now it's not in the probably he will continue with

this way I think it's very well I think it's sure that the trainers she chose well

but I imagine that it's difficult you replic the quantity of the training of

high-nive sparrin of companyers to T T T T T T if not the major team the world

is one of major, yeah, I'm a vaster lack of other way to try to get

someone to get a gym in the gym for this do you're a trocaceum so I don't

know, I'm I'm not so I'm going to be how she will try to try to try and

another academy, in a academy private that she said that's that's

we're we're a lot of the world for her and I think she will

get to get all this all this all right not and I think she,

she will be prepared the best way to this lot of this lot of the course, and they're

not that I'm back the country, because so we think it's in two categories contos of Brazil,

not a fact of the Brazil, the world, and the year, the year, the year,

the year, the year, the year, we're going to be a marvell of the world of course, it's a

top of course, that's all the whole day, I'd like to thank you to thank you my my friend, my friend, for your time

here, on the other side of the world to talk with a podcast, good sort of this final of preparation and a rebate with a lot of the song, man. I'd like, I'd like for the opportunity. Let's go. Abrace, my friend. And from Thailand, we go direct to

Connery Kuntz, where we're Neiman Grease, who in this 6thfeer, Logan Story, in the Luton in the Luton 2,7,4. Contrero, just a bat-d-fap with him. From there, we're on Neman Grace,

who's with a Lutta-Marker against the Belator 274, It's the day 19 of February. All right, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my pleasure

to be here, always, we're going to talk with you. Good, about it, man, so, the second time

that you do a lot in the battle inalto, that now, this year inaugura, this new era

of the event, with all the main, is of five rounds, as like as it's a time,

so, it's a better for you, log, 25 minutes, it's much more porada than 15,

but this is a better for you in your style of your style of your especially in this

fight in this look at how you know how you analyze this possibility of six rounds instead of three

how it's how it's impact a train strategy oh, very much that thing

that's so Grace so the so much more time we get more more

more was more was a good but but but I do

when the Bellator moved this thing I I came to to try

to Michael Page to do a little bit of five rounds, but it's there's other plans to be and they're

this lot to five rounds, I'm very I'm madradown, I prefer to do you know, than I'm than I'm

going to do my third lot of five rounds, that I pass in my career, and,

I prefer much more. For me, in a lot of title, it had to have to have more than

five rounds, in you're when the time of five rounds? Car, one's eight because you want to see

even who is the better there's a time to make the maximum of time possible to see that to see what

a lot of a total five rounds not a sufficient for we see a we've got a lot of

that's aropel that someone dominion for five rounds but there's a lot of people have been a sixth round there

exactly what he would happen Yeah, exactly. And it's a lot more real, because the guy has to dozed more there's a lot more,

and as well, you have a strategy to, to make your opponent and at a little, like, in a graze, he batting, during eight or ten rounds,

there's a lot to the second round, he's got much more affected, so it. So, it's a lot that would be a much.

I've said with Rickson in a time, I asked, I asked for him, how is it, how it would be the Ricksson in M.A.

actual, not, many people think, no, if the Pellet if the if the Pellet

if you're not, you're talking about, the rest, you're not, you're doing, Rickson, who did the career in the decade of 80, and I'd

think he would be doing the same thing in the M. A new year not he would be

a lot like a old in day. But you said, the more time helps more more than

a great, we've got a time back, that you said that was a M.A.

to be a not to be a reprimand a girl propaganda of Jiu Jiu Jits but you you're saying,

but you're a great CERC in the girl propaganda of Jiu Jiu Jitza, how you do you

balance, even more especially with long as long as the front, knowing that everyone is always always always

to yougitzo that you know, that you do you do that you do you do that's a family

always did. I was even talking to him a time about about this and he

said, like, man, today, it's much more difficult, it's much more

more atletic because are rounds of five minutes time. It's actually it

was a round of 10. This then you can see that what happened with MMA was a little what happened

with box. Antigames, the years of box, the era of the years 50, 40, the lotas were much more long as and they were

diminuing, too, if I'm mingan, it was more rounds, I don't know of what, but I know

that were the last longers. So, he did look as long as, the lute had been

been been, I don't see, the 40 minutes of the lute, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, But I know that my

Tio Elio lot was in 45 minutes when the Waldemar. It's a thing that is rude to see, a moment will be chate

to see. So I'm I think that no more space for this, but I think,

as the rounds are menors, it would be to put more rounds, you know? And as as you,

I don't have no choice, yeah, I'm not I'm just I'm just all the part of

being, and is there's but I'm but I'm madradon because I grew seeing other

my family doing the same and I'm now could be in my moment and it's doing it's a dream of seeing

realising it. We need need to go to see a example in my

case I think the last the last the last lot of valet-tud in the style

valet-tud in M.A that was the Royce and the GEP absolute of Pras exactly

they established a regal different just for this lute, which were the rounds of 10 minutes and it

ended up it's it's not a minute or 60 minutes it was it was

a little I'm more weird bizarre not if you start to think

in the story of M.A that is the sport recent now a sport of new

this aspect modern of him a little time after

we had we had this last but what was

more bizarre even in this that they were in a tournament of three

two minutes the same the same the same the same the same he's not he's in a

round, I'm gonna get a round yeah, Por, Sakurab is a much, I think I'd like that's chagrault. And he didn't do it, he derobes the voltiant, I was watching this other day. I was going to see.

And, man, he went to, he went to, like, with that kind of, like, I don't want to be here, but... It's a malucco. He's a lot of Sakuraba, and he wastes, you know, he, saying that he was in the same night, establishes a regre a regal specific

for this battle, is a lot of the lucre. No, and a GP with Voltiantin, with Mark Olliam, Markia, just a negro gigante for them. Just a mollesa. Just a mollesa.

Antigames, the guys were different, that's what I do. You'd like, of course in today, in the States is impossible.

No, a commission atlietta will liberate any way anything in this sense, not a m. I don't see

you say, you do a part of exhibition, that not need to be a commission atlieter,

you know, not will be to go to a place to a country, to a country to a Brazil,

the Brazil, you do do it is liberated, to do any kind of type of zone, because you don't have any

a commission at but you know, but you would like to do a challenge this sense? I would like, I'd like to

do you know, I'd like to do this, and, man, I think the Belator just a time, you know, that's,

when the team did that night, I don't know where it was, but the Belator just did, I'd like,

to do you just a bit different, because in the United, the United, the Commission ATTres they don't permit

that you do you do make more than five rounds in the me a night. So if you

are to make a GP in the night, some of the other one of the one of the other three, no

maximum, because you can't have more to get more the same. So, the Invicta did a year of eight athletes in a

same night, or so, so two two of the two oflott and the third was a third lot of three

rounds. I'm not so, but I'm out of five. One round just a one man,

the guy, the guy, the guy, he got to get to get to get to not,

no, not. It's not. How you prepare for a LUT Etern? A lot that

not has a limit of time? How is the preparation? You do you do you do

a cardio there, a thing to do you train six, seven rounds to start in your top to five

but how is a camp for a Lute or a LUT or so maybe a night? If it was

a round like a LUTA Round, let me have to have to do you

have to do try a round too for 40, one hour of training in direct, with people

different, who one just not would not want to, but I think that's there that's the good,

it would be to have more more effect because many people would have to clenched all the hour, not you

can't be to be trying the soco eternally so I think the jiuits

is a bit more if you're more and it's for that we do Jiuitso got more

more to try to try to try to try to work sometimes, because,

you're today with a guy who knows Jiu-Jitsu and in a round of 5 minutes it's very difficult you know, it's very difficult to finalize a guy who knows

a few minutes, understand. We're doing a miracle, I'm not going to finalize the person, but I think

the more time better, and going to my lot, and I'm going to be a maraudo. I'm very when we realized

and didn't need more more money. I said, no, no, no, the money that is doing

the money that is doing, it's good, but to more time, it's hand, too. This

is an important, the story he just just per one way to a MMEA until today,

which was pro-tall champion, Ne, the Mosovosov. What do you think he has the

game of both, especially having the five rounds to work. He's a

really a wrestler, he's a really good, he's always put a lot of

back back, and I also looked with some wrestling in my career.

Inc., I looked with two wresters really was the Ed Hout and John Fitt. And,

I like this type of of this kind of, I like this type of lute, because I think I have a trocaption better than it is of them, and I'm very much on the ground. So I think he will, he will try me derobar, but we'll give a giro there on the ground,

and he will be lost. And as a lot of five-round, I'll try to do do it, and try to do that to count out and finalize him until the final of the you think you think it's

you think the finalization or do you think come in more in nocout for there

poor man it's I don't I see everything in my mind I see the finalizing

the I see the I'm not I can make you can't make a

lot of that it can't a little difficult to say but I

have sure that this lot not will be the five rounds I don't

I don't let let me me make him and came in tarot shot? Yeah,

I think it depends the way that the lot of the fight that he did the fight that he did

a lot of was a lot of the jury so I think if I have a victory a doctorate about him

I'm going to get this tarotot in the next you think the Amosov

even will be the champion when you when you Towers getting this

finalizing him not corteing you receive taroshes you you

will be the Amosov the other side of the garage, or will be the Michael Page? I think that will be the Amoshoff, he is very

favorite in this but Michael Page is that he can take a ball from the cartola at any moment and terminate a lot with

any of the world. So he is a guy imprevisible that can terminate a lot at any moment, but the game of Amossoff

is perfect to, to fight. And I think the my game is very good to use with anemostop,

also, so it's that that thing. In fact, I don't have predilection, because I've been peddina

for a lot for the last year, and this time he will be able to get the signterone

and will have to be to look to so, so, for me no interest who will

be there to be the other side. I have to pass for this first, that will be

a lot very hard, but any one of both that's there on the

other side the the centuron for it will be great. You mentioned that the

Jokel of the Monsov is perfect to gain the Macopaid. I confess that I'm surprised that I'm surprised that the Michael Pate picked this Lute,

because we know that Michael Pate is in this vibe of maybe to complete the contract with Bela Tori to the UFC. So if he

gain the centurion he will be able to be a contract with a cause of a campaign and if he he'd

he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd pay the power of him, he'd be able to

him sure he's a job to do do, the one just will goadne by so I'm gonna go back down to be. So, me surprised him very, he toped this

luta, because when he gained the Douglas Lima, he just said to go to the centralum, but he moved to the centuron, but he's been to the centuron, and he surpreenedo, too, he'd also be this lute. Yeah, he didn't surprise,

because he no more what was to do you, or he'd be lutted through the centuron, or he would be to be with other people there, and we never know what happens

for the time. Like, the, So there are many things in the balance, but I think it's a lot of the centuron and he didn't have a choice, so

he's not, he won't have to go ahead and this and no. And no important who is in the octagon when you disputed the centuron, it will be, oh, the chance great, the second chance is the centuron, the first time, the, the GP against the Royal Macdonald. What was the

lesson of that your first derrata in M.M.A. What you you've learned in that opportunity against the champion of Belta? It was a lot that I really I think I was much cruel

to fight for the centuron when I looked, but, but, even as I could see that I'm in the head, I'm prepared to do that

to play with any of those guys. I did a lot with a guy that was a champion the last round band, and I'm

running on him and derubing, mounting, so I think that now I am more more than I'm more

After this my vina here to California that I started to the person of the 15 with the

master of Raphael Cordero, I'm really very too. So I think now

I think I'm much more arms and particularly the way psychological, it's very better to

to be to be to be going to I think on me and I know,

I'm sure how much how much how Renso and the Raffel Kordeerer in Korn

from Korn is a person, the person is a person perhaps he will

to fight until the 100 years. And the guy, you know, a trainer

more than the guy, the other the other kind of the person for you to help you

to help to help the errors, and the results, even in the lot, you know,

you know, you know, you know, how it's how it's a how it's two in your corner?

Yeah, I think it was a case of these two guys in my corner, you know,

Renzo and the Rache Raphael, each one is exceptional in what you do you think it could be better

I have today the other side of my side and the the best of the new useful

and I'm useful and I'm happy I'm glad to these two guys together and I'm and then

to say to New York and so and also to California train in at Kings

you have training you know you you augment the Leck of people who are sitting at Kingston, a elenco

an elencoxswors there and there's special the verdun, who is a guy who, as you can't you see in the jiu-jitsu and are looking evolution

in a procaation, a thing that he was able to make a maestria, the guy that in the carthew, the guy who who's been

who looked for who now he said that he was he made a career absurd in Jiu-Gitso

before to, like, you know, in, in the MMA, evolve in the trocaation

also, how is it he's a he's a guy that you inspire in this transition, in this

evolution to be a kind of a more complete in MMA? With certainty, I think he is a

guy that he inspires all the world, all the lot of Jiu-Gitzo that goes to M.

Understand? The Verdu is a guy, he's a hard-of-seria and he me help

much. Even he not being here now, he he made a message

direct, The Verdun is always sending a message like, porra, you know, you're doing you're doing

you're doing it's a bit, I'm going to know, I'm saying, I'm saying to me

that's going to me transform to me transform in a lot a lotter more complete by what he saw,

you know, the master just for for this for people of Jiu-Gitzo and transform in a

lot of completes, like Verdun, Raphao of the Ange and he said to

me that he's been that's very It's a good. I think of the other one. You did a little,

a little aperit of this evolution, thinking the your be-a for a knockout in MMA. Pregue. A good thing,

how it was a bit more to finalize, it's the normal. And now derobar a guy with

a sock with a clotelade. It's had a goody different, was more good.

Well, with now I understand because the people the people tryca

so, much more more It's more easy when you gain like, than you have a job of to have to drop, you to have to get a man, tap, you know?

It's much less laborious. And, man, car, the sensation of the victory is different when you can't, when the judge enters and par, the fight, it's a sensation different. I've got very, but I know where I'm good, you know?

So, there's many people saying, oh, now he's, now he, will think it's a trocadour, will say, trocadling to all the world, and you've seen this film, but no, I continue putting people to the train, continue to do you guys, continue doing jiu-jitsu, I know

that I'm good, and what will me leave to the top, you know? This victory, gave a, gave a, experience, let's say, of a, of a revolution, to be a guy more complete,

even more because we're always, we're used to, we know, to see the family Grace, that kind of representant of the jiu-jitsu, because the family was in a sport, in a time in which no-em-ma,

was, each one representing the art martial and but now. But today, now, you have to

know you, you have to know, you think you, training on Kings, training with Renzho, doing the

career, a career, excellent, since the first of the MMA, just competing in great

events, making a career a career solid, you are the best, the M.

The M. you are the family, Gras, he has been, the world and the sport, not the

thing? You think you are the M.A. that family Grease has been. I've seen people saying this,

like in the event, before I'm the best of M.M.A. that's the first I'm the best I don't know, I don't know. I think there

other guys were very good. I think there's their own to have your style, I think for now, this is my moment.

I'm more in in, in the media and all this and the people are giving a value there.

I feel I'm feeling. One of my plans was this when I started to to be a lotado complete and

to show that the graces also can't fight in all the areas. I'm so I'm very happy when the people say this, but I don't let's enter in my mind and also does difference for me, you know? You're the guy to

to bring the cinturon to the family? That's with that expectation, the Roger took the first centuron of a grand event in M.M.O.D., he was championed by the anti-epetip, but it was or then

after the second on, you're after this is a little to be a part of the

family now in Belto? I think it's the most the family in the MMA,

because the Belto has a path more than than the one. I think in terms of

importance would be the most the most the future of the family.

Yeah, I think a great for the family to get this

this centuron with certainly and this is the plan

so so, man I can I can't wait to get to my hour and I'll try to take this centuron there again. But

it's a family very great and I have certain that other will be there too but I don't want to let my part, my story, pass in black and I will bring this centuron to the family that. This is the plan and I'm the way of his

way. Who is the next Grace to see for MMA? To come to MMA I think maybe it's maybe it maybe be the Jairn in the future. He's new, I think he's been focused on Jiu-Gitz

but I live pertubing him, imploring for he does al-a-a-lid-lawy in Enzo, the class of box, and I think that in the future, he will be the guy who will migrate to the MMI of the family. Exactly he, that I would

ask him, because he is a guy who has a person, it's a group of great, right, right? Since the, of a adolescent, that he he just showed that the

guy had a port of physical and he had talent, and training with you know, obviously he

would have the technique too, no, without he had a good for to compete

too, and these championships jiu-jits help very this, because in a day

so he does five, six, seven luthes and this also helps for the day

that he should be to the M. But the M.M.A. A other sport,

and I bott this in the head of his to be he training other things he's

he's in he's a way to be he's he's a he's he's a time you know

he's not a moment of a time? There's a many people who do you know, there's a thing that

the ideal is what? The idea, for your experience, for what you see, with the

people of other people of your other people who did you think the ideal for he would

be the future when he so the sport moved much today

if if I if I was more new and I was well, I'd have been there's been doing some lotions amateurs there to be

taking the time of ring and all but I think that I think about about 23 years like 24 years, it's

good to start to start but if I was he or any other other guy who's watching when a

part of the 18 years I'd start to make some last amateurs to be ready to start a professional between the 21, 22, 23.

I think it's an idea good to start. And just to finish about the other aspect of the family Greta. So we're going to from the new generation that's coming.

We're going to talk about the other. The other side the opposite, the Renzo, you're who's you're going to your side as

the trainer, but he never, if you're going to talk with Renzo, he never is always,

always, always, always, the next a little bit a time in the last last but you

think we will see the he's not he's not to know he's not to doveting of nothing and

the Scott Spooker me sackaneer always when I go to when I'm go to

go and he goes always in my backstage in vestiary and he he says with me

poor good sort he's he says he's you're madrino you're you're ready

you're you're ready you're I don't let them don't let's they're not but I'm

but the manz is that's a opportunity for him he will be a lot of he's

there's he can't he's always he's always rolled that that little with Valid but

never you know manzo is the Renz's is the last one the last year he was in 2018 there in one yeah the

the last one Rue has been time, there's 19 years from the last his last he won't also in Japan,

you think that this lot is out of the paper or if you think that's going to be being ever but never will

be in a porrada in M.A. The luta was to say there, I think the Valid had put

a lot of impenpecili the lute the I don't know I don't know I don't so I think

that's going that will be this lute between the two not we're going to beck

the two bellings and be bickando and it will be able if the Rensu'll I think he

will be going to another person and not be bad news I mean think this but this

like these two bellions in the asylum there but never never never never

get bangalad in the other the other the but the the lute never not roll

no but the but the but the Luce and M.M. Grace Logan Stollin

Stollin in the January of The other that will you guarantee more chance of the syndrome, my mom. Thank you very much

for participation here in the podcast. Boa sort in this retta final of preparation. Thank you. Thank you. We're always going to talk

with you. We're together. Thank you. And, back here now with Victor Freitas and as a good specialist of Jiu-Gi-Sysso,

you know, car, will give the analysis of his analysis of what we can expect of Neiman Grease in Belter this

week. There's a great with Neyman that when I was the stagiar of Grace Meg I did

the first interview of his career of a athlete professional since I'm

going to him quite and he is a grace very very finalis

so if you remember of Crone Grace Lutando the guy

always was a finalization and the Neyman is

the same is the same he he was he he

with the with the his Renzo, with Gordon Ryan, John Denner, Craig Jones.

He saw this guy all to grow. View how they moved the grappling also with the chaves

of the and in the last the last the last time also used much the

Rio Rook to finalizing. So it is very perigoso you put the Grace

to crossh to the shot, to fight with with the

and it's very complicated to have it for over the same, because he could do

any moment a bot the center to do you get a lot of better than he's been better better than he's training with

Raphael Cordero, the guy who is the elite the part in the paris there, there a Romulo

Barhal that train some some of jiujitsu and I think the Neyman

also have evolved very in the part of Grappling he's training with Victor Silvero

that is a façate of Jiuits that now will be So I believe that he came in Neyman 2.0

for this for this Luta, he that in the last four alterned one victory, a victory,

I think he will recover the sequence there, better even with a finalization. I asked for Neyman,

he is a guy, he's a very, he's a man, and I asked,

I'm going to you're analyzing the lotator MMA, not the Loddutututte, the family Greets,

he had notators historic in the time in which was Jiu-Gitz against her Muaita

and other confronts of arts martial and not what is today everyone train to all the

and I think he's he's better and do the M. The best of a family, the best of

him, I think he for him if he concorded with this but he he's

he's he's a guy of he he's he's he's he's skivore

he's he's the objective of his his but what you are You think he is the

M.M.A. that family has had been other person who has a success more than he or maybe he not had to have been the success, but he was better than MMI than he was. In the actual moment, he is the best of MN.m.A. and have to discorded of this. I think he gets retrained to him,

assuming the family that he is the better than a family, Grace, right? He's a, he'd leave to, to the media, say, and we do part of our job. I'm going to comment he is the better, Grace, in the MMA. Currently, we've seen the Cron,

trying to do not work in-pe. They have to better. I believe that if the Cron would use, if the Jiu-Git

in that lute in that, he would be not see if he seemed pressionado by the media, to say, that the media

in-s- the MMA don't know when the when the lot to go to the ground, so,

I don't know if he seemed to pressonate. But, but, but, but,

but, Neyman, for me, too, the, Grace, not MMA today

and if we go to get a story, he might have supered as the other his antipasas

his own things that's a kind of you know, you know, the MNor the day

that's going to look to do that himmah can't get a thing not a

but the clan never will say who were never never they're

so much so much animated to know the Ney evolving

as a American Antigames, we We've said, ah, the car of Jiu-Jitz in M.A.

Today, now, he's a man, he's a man, even that he came, have been, have been to

do Jiu-Gitz. So, you see how the things go mud-munding. Yeah, now, now, now,

now, now, has, now, a man, the guy, is, a little,

a little, the guy, the sport is going to much. For the people, the people who

think, in migra in the MMA, just, yeah, I, training

the part in the part in the way, because it is a world different, it's a sport different

as we've seen the Boucher, the Yura Simons, all these guys came are the kimono,

the grappling there, so they were to Bibbian, 401 years, disputing

the centurion, and he is an athlete of M. He is not a athlete

of Jiu-Git. So the the guy can be to be spelial in these two

guys to have success. And the Neyman, he can't very win this lute, and he's just to put the centuron, he just disputed one he's a lot of warre macdonald he's got over the decision,

when it was the GP the middle of Belto. Now, he's getting the winner of the Yeroslav Morsov, that's a pic of Ukrainian that's going to the world in Belto

and the Michael Page the phenomenon in English, only, just just perde one, vingua the derot for Doug Aligham recently.

You think the Neyman counter these two you think he does you think he wins or maybe just with Michael Page that the Amosob

would be a more complex to lead? I believe that all I think to be a strategy, yeah,

man, can be considered good against the two but the guys are also a high level,

so I think the best the best on the top of the shone in- back,

it's a little salgado but I think if the Neyman use the Graplin

against the two will be victorious certain making a parallel the same if we'd put in the

whole she's is just well in the M.A in the M.A. Lutant in F.C. Contra,

for example, a John Jones. Certainly, he not would be in best if he would be betes of

good victories. Where he would be on the one is in the ground. So,

the Neyman will try in-pe with a way to try in-pe with Michael did?

No, the best the strategy is in the show. On the ground, he has much more backgage than these two.

So I'm I believe the Neiman will use the Jujit to get the objective final. But before before I'm

going to hear of you, my friend, about the most the war of the year that will be in the world, in the world

of the grappling, which is an guarded the duel between Andrea Galvan and Gordon Ryan in O. Finally,

he will happen I'm trying to interview the Galvan for a much but I'm just I'm just being

indesistence here, just jogging the toilet I just like to not go not for

in a lot, but what you expect of this this is a thing that the world of jujuice is

going to the anxieties to be, yeah. I think I don't have a certainty

that the ADCC has been the major event of all the

story for this because the Andre, the Andre Galvon

has been So what was the new It was a newbond, it was Galvon and Ken? Because until then Galvon had eliminated all the

last champions absolute, it got very, much anxiety to see Galvon and preguise,

and it was that kind of bad in the lot, as he said, but, but, even,

until the phenomenon American, Gordon Ryan, was growing. He did a good work of marketing. He did this

passage, finalized all everyone, had a filmage, had a photo, he had he defyable and he

was a good. He's good in a market, he's a poor, is the muggerger of the

jubb, he, he took a wonder and for this battle took this boom

all, after he did two tapas in the russ the Rundeggau

so so the DCC started to to be mobilized, to be doing a event spectacular,

there recently two selectives of ADCC in Brazil, that the organization moved very, you can, cobried

some earlierments, I also, via the evolution of organization, needs to do some of those, but there had some

different satisfatory, for this lute in, so, car, with certainly,

it will be of people close to Gordon that he still has a problem that's that's

that's he's not not getting 100% but independent of any anything he will have

this lot, he even had he had to put to the category above

99 kilos so he will do various luts in the most day

it's very so so I'm thinking like a guy

will do you all in world in world and everyone imagine

how will be the result and he will go to the category and absolute

so my man what this guy is a very new and with

sure he's emboos a good money to the money

for the result of the the result of it is kind

of kind of know what will happen he

is an adversary very very different of everything

the Andrea Galvon has been in the Andre Galvon is an athlete

finalisado as well he finalized the major the grappling also just per

just he's a lot very difficult and maybe the major route that of

Andre Galvon in a DCC this can't be but I

feel with the Galvon the experience for points You think,

you know, Gordon-Ram to do what he is doing to enter the category along the other than

the superluta because it is a looker like he's doing instead of to concentrate

in a little one yeah yeah for me it seems a

a lucur because if really he even even he even with a

problem in this affect him in the he will use a market that he

went there and he's he is expert and really is the right, so I can't

be that really this problem in the stomach is a petting, and he is a way he has to get to get to the

carvone and get a category. He's not there, he went there and he was there, he was in the decision

for the galvon, he can say that was robbed, so he will be always trying a way of to be in

the time, then he can't do, he's able he's able to play, he's able to get to

to comprehend it in the radio social and all the time all the time all around people, and putting a lot and putting

money in the money in the boat. This is a lot I'm very anxious to see. I don't I'm going to see because

not the World World Jiu-Jitsu that's like the same time you're getting a period of ADCC is organized

there, it's a chav it's easy to accompany what he's all right it's all it's all

a lot good, so I'm so I'm so I'm anxious to see to see to see that finally

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