MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Ngannou faz história, Malhadinho voa e Walker embala

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Semana agitada entre os pesos pesados no MMA, e o Trocação Franca recebe Junior Cigano para dissecar os detalhes do histórico acordo de Francis Ngannou com a PFL, que lhe garante milhões e caminho livre para lutar boxe. O podcast entrevista ainda Jailton Malhadinho e Johnny Walker, que brilharam no UFC Charlotte, e Diego Ferreira, que volta ao octógono no próximo sábado. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It's a busy week for heavyweights in MMA, and Trocação Franca welcomes Junior dos Santos to dissect everything about Francis Ngannou’s historic deal with PFL, which guarantees him millions and a free path to boxing. The podcast also features interviews with UFC sensation Jailton Almeida, light heavyweight talent Johnny Walker, and returning lightweight Diego Ferreira. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Welcome to the octagest, 88 episode on podcast Trocazank,

a new house about this immense proxfair. I'm going to bea my name-aughes co-respondentate of the website. All right, man,

welcome to be here with you with you again, We're we're grabbing this conversation here on on the

third the day he had the official that he did the and he

did not a pfel, a accord different than we are used to do you costurar

many things different he he managed that he does a

lot of box without no relation with the PFL the

the PFL the not will get money with this he he can

he he can't even he he can't he has the fact

of he that in the contract is specificed. The adversary will gain at least two million dollars

and that he will gain more than this. It's a guy will enche the the boss of the money

in the next and other things more that he got got a position in the committee

of the lotters, will leader the NFL Africa? How is you, as a person,

he's a champion of the FC, a veteran in the sport, and he saw

this newid of his joining at the FFL and a and a accord, maybe

historical for the sport considering everything he could get to get riddle in this negotiation,

yeah, I think, it's not talking to say that the people are talking about

about it about it and I think it excellent in the fact there was

there was a thing to have some to be not the position

too to be the person has a force absurd, for the guy of the

guy of the person of the guy to be to be batted in the category of the peses

in this moment. So he has this this this, this the position that he

occupa today to do do something and he is doing I think the people in the people in

the the lotators the athletes of M.A. And the the own,

the arts marciaries in general, are very happy in hearing what he's

talking, he's talking, and what he's trying, trying to, open

ports, let's say, new doors, new, to break these, these, these barriers

that were kind of, in postas, they were, they were, you don't have, you know,

It's no option, no there's no aren't barriers that were imposed for you, they were part of the way, they

were that and nobody and nobody question about and he's questioning, and he's getting to derubing

many of them as well, as we're excellent, an attitude so, a good good,

to be to be the part of the endu, not just for him, I think,

I think this this is this accord that he you just , you've been

said, it's a major, the major negotiation, let's say, in terms of financiales,

that's, that we've, that's, that's, I don't need, I, I don't care even,

I don't, no, me, not me, not really, what I, what it's, what it's,

really, is that's being made, and that's being, it's being, in a , the form

very legal. So I think the minimum that we can do is to thank you. And I'm sorry, for the attitudes and for insisting in these attitudes.

Because any other would have been a, like, as we've seen many times. Teree to be dobrated

to a total system, to all, to all, to all, to do all, and he not was so,

he'd did the way of his and it's doing the way of him. Many people would

saydied when the Ransinganu was offered to do you for him, 8, 9 million dollars

of bolsa to to renavary to rena, to rena, and find out of jones. This money, this money,

we can't do your life, you'll be in your life, you'd be accepted, but not was what he'd he said,

he said, he said from from the money, not are more important. Obviously, the money

is important, poor, the world, but, he'd would be the liberty. He wanted to do the way he was the way of the F.C.

not will be able to the perils pern't for Magreggone and to confront him Mayweather because he exigued that did a part of that negotiation. The F.C. Grews got a lot of the history, but you think it's a issue, but you think this

opens the eyes of other athletes that still in the F.C. Who I think who who's been in F.C. And, you know, for example, the case. You know, you know how works on the system, in the BATC and know how it works on the side of the floor. But many people are

there in there. He realized the dream of the we're in the FC and he gets satisfied just for being satisfied by

he's not in the more than he more than a possibility of a more money with a marries contractual,

and so have the three letters to the FC ligated to the guy just gets satisfied

but I think that all that he's conquestating in this negotiation can be the eyes

of many people like there's a world there's a we can't we can't get

to many other forms also, no. Ah, with a I'm sure that I'm very

this attitude of Inganu because it's a attitude so, comes to someone that's

something that's and that not it don't be for, let memos or agrados or whatever

that can be in your direction. So it's an attitude really admirable, it's like

you said because that why that this Because, as it was the case of his case of him, and happened many other

times, with certain, the people thought, the people thought very in the personal, the of them, I will deliver the rest of all,

that, you know, see, and it's to be in, it seems that, no, that was something

to be important for him, to make a difference, not just being the lotator, that he is, that he

does a great difference, but also in, let's say, interfere directly in how a

thing happens with the events, with the attitude of the events and the relationship of events with

the proper athletes, which are the show of the event. So it's very legal to have been

being this. And, so, always, before we never never saw because it was

like you said it was a little more of money or cae some regalias different, I don't know, or what could

have happened and the people were to have the system and the and the French engan not let's

let him and insisted on what he wanted, he was insisting on what he was trying to be

trying to make the difference really and the difference that we have

talked a much a lot lot of the lotters, let's say, the class of the lotators

in general, reclama of various situations that are, how they're, how they're going to, but never

was made in relation to this, because they were back back back. There's a time,

like, the time to, not could be going to get to because there has a

lot of risk, and, and, the life, the life, because this is

our life, it's all we're doing the not the educators. And with Francis in the point he

got in a particular point of the career, of his life, the life of the position, as I said, he occupants,

maybe he brought this confidence of that he could insist in to get the the desires

of his and it's being done being done. For the UFC, as a market so

great, he's turned more than 99% of the athletes, So the atletters are substitutable. If the atlet,

a threat, he says, no, I want this, I want more money, I want to say, so, okay, so you're out of

the water, I'm going to put a lot of a lot of, the same thing, will have been in the same thing, so, the athlete,

he's fragilized in a, in a negotiation, he don't have a force when he should have because,

as, as he's the show is made by an athlete, not made by, the,

of the, you know, the F.C. has a, put, the merit of the whole world,

all the world. So, everything is made in the cost of the athlete. If the the athlete

not there, no, there's a show, right? Yeah, exactly. The people, in general,

so, maybe, I don't know if for not understanding in the art martial in it,

but, being two guys there batting one on the other, normally, pass

for a a lot of high-nive but not it and the and the events in

not just the UFC but the events in general it's always they're

more in this sense or you see the the politics here

the event or you see the or you see the politics here to or a

other athlete so or it's always it situation, like we

like the proper F.C has very merit. The proper Dana Wikes has been much merit. Because it was

the entry of it was he had metida the car and been being, made the thing to happen

that the sport came to the level that's not if not it would not have the things

not had happened. It's a part- it's a part-ererer but in some

moments it needs of a chakal-o or of a tap the car to remember

that one needs to one valiose than the other. The athletes so important

or at least not more important than the proper organization, but not take the merit of the own own the event of

the event, because if not the event, also there's where the athlete to do. So the two

are of great valia and one needs to respect to respect the other. I think

that the events are increasing so, it's doing the organizations to forgets a little of

the value of the athletes. And the engano is collaborating for that it's doing this tapina in the

face or this chakalalian to remember ohpa we're, we're not part of the show, we're

the show. We're right we don't know when he will be straightar he said he'll be

no year but it's to be to be to be different because he wants

he can do a lot to do It's a bit sort if he will

be able to negotiate a logocear a long against a certain a star a guy or

or if it's a famous tune up fight, an aquecement against a kind of a level

minor for then he's he tried a kind of a accord a

before before to work to make but you know but you think that

this is a fact a guy in a level minor because if he were trying

to be in a guy of the elite, one of these three, then the is a little to be able to him.

Ah, with the question. I think it's the thing, depending on the guy, the guy that the

eyes of the world, the lot, are in him. So, it, let me say, depending on

what he, he pretends in the world of the box if really is migra, or just to do

a, a participation or other, If it were a participation, a experience just in the box, even to be to do continuity

after after other lutas menores or more, let's say, because today the box kind of worked with

a force good, so it's having various different types of and the people are going to much.

So I think he can go to see that this way but I think it's a want

that he has to be to confront a great strong a starla of box, like you said, the Ontario, the Anthony Joshua, the Tyson fear,

one of these guys. If this really intention, I think probably he, not, just to see test it one way or other, he will accept a lot of this great. He will

try to a lot of this grand. If he has a want to migrate, or remain more in the thing of the box, then it would be interesting this

talking like a loter would be interesting he would do a lot of maybe

more preparatory to look to someone of the calibre of these names

that we're here because the box for more that care or not can't

it is totally different if you for example, the Luka of McGregor with him, if you press attention,

the guy says, oh, McGregor, had a chance, did he, he had chances, there's chance of this,

he never, the goals that he connected, the chance that he had, the world, and he did,

it's a goal, the other, it's, but if you get a question, but the

middle, he didn't any one he didn't, he was, he was in the control, the time

the time whole, was a money, he's, and I'm 60 million dollars

that the the O'Hedder was going for the company he was that was promoting the event

so it was the minimum that he could do it was to give a show to give rounds

for the people to the so it not McGregor let's say not I'm

not I'm not I'm not all but it but not there was there no level technical

of box to fight it's but you know in the box in when you

have a experience great Or in the proper M.A., you know, to take advantages of this experience. It was what my Eder did, for example, in that the lute. Aos Pohmok, he

was doing the show, and having, and kebrando, McGregor, little to go, and endregating everything he was to try, that he had as an obligation to be a

guy, you know, at least, so. So I, I see in this sense. There are two lines for the, for the, for, the,

I'm going to, but, for the two lines, for these attitudes that he's having there, I will be one of the

fans that will be watching the the lot of the lot of even more this thing, that's an intention that I

have a great to participate to the lot of box, and if he'd need of a opponent to

be to be in box, I'm in the same percent. No, M.A. You're have interest

also, to inventing him? Ah, with But you're saying that the boss of the adversary of his

will be in the minimum $2 million of dollars, so... That's another thing that shows, it's more

one way, I have to reforce this, the thing the values well, the guy has he wants

he makes, he knows that the thing, it's not to do just to it,

to move to, to, let's say, to, we need to to, we need to move,

the system, how all the value that the athletes have in in the same, for example, in the box,

there's a law that's that's a leigh act, and says that 67% of the recadation of the event

is needed to be voted to the athletes. 67% of the recadation of event is to pay

the, it has to be directed to be for what you see, for you see these

bolsas big these boxiators, and 33% is the promoters. and no MMA in

in the same there's a clear and you normally the value I've been a devocation

the UFC is for about 20% for there even to even get to events that were

7% 8% the all the recadation of the event was to pay the

the so it is it is this type of this type of that

we have to press attention and to make be interesting like I said, for the two

sides. Because if not were interesting for the promoters doing the events and it's very, it's very much

for us the lotators. So, not it's a way, let's say, to be to think,

in the own bribo, let's think, to put up this form, is to work to work really,

to be to do the thing that way better than for the promoters, for the

events, and, particularly, for the athletes that that need to be amperated, that need to have an attention

special of them. For sure, we're talking to you know, in the next Lutta and how is the recovery of

the ombro that you last year, the other Lergen of Kachas there, yeah, it's a lot of

just is able to train, how is that in this side there? I'm doing the training, I'm doing, I'm still,

I'm still a little of a bit of receree, you have to have a little

a little major, but in the part of the strike and it's all the

but I have trained very very much so I'm thank you and now I think

I'm going to engat a march good to to to see in this

rhythm and being being strong and and going

the the the abilities normal with my braz with my right, which was where happened

the legion. It was very complicated, it's long longed, it's a this recuperation, and what

incommoda much, it's a that you take of time, but not have to do do,

so, then have to have to pass through process and and to see in front, which is

what we can do do we can do do I don't say it's 100%, but I think

in the 90% it's a lot in the end or son in the next year? I'm I'm still I'm gonna

if for box if for the question of box I can do I could have been a lot for a much

time because I'm feeling well in MMA also sincerely I'm in MMI now I now I'm

coming see as as I'm I'm feeling more more more more

the arm, and jig more on the arm, so at a little the thing

is going to happen to happen to happen to be going to and it and me

a, an air good, you know, because I have 39 years now,

I'm really very well, and I want to do some because these

last, I don't see, when the thing amenda to do to do

to do to do confused and it's all it's all it's like it's like it's like

I'm like I'm like to have certain of that I left this phase to do that

I'd don't see I don't see I think it's like it's like it's much the self

perception it's like a perception personal personal of when you're when you still

when you still have much to be or when you have you just you just got you just got you just you know to

I'm going to I'm to go to I'm in I'm trying to training with the guys that are going to do and all right

so the intention is to start with competition you know you can't you can't with Eagle

I have the contact I have but I I just signed that a lot with them

I'm thinking and they're they're not not a lot of many people they're not there's so you're

going to be a bit more confused there how it's in so I don't see so it's so it's it was even

it was even it was not so not so not so we had had to come out of

the thing of the things of the year and the idea the intention

was not not so not so not so of so, so we're

not just to not have a lot but we're going to see what can see there in

the intention too is the thing of the box I think I'm a guy who has a

car chef in the of my career in the career in it

would be so it would be quite comfortable for me in

the in the sense of to, to, to, I'm really really,

to try to try to go to try to make, I'm in, I'm the Jiu-Git,

I'm a know, because, but I know, it's the place I'm

my question of the whole, as it's the problem, no, in the porrada, no,

in a porrada, I'm going to go, 20 rounds, I'm going to, for if he he wants to

want to do you want to do a test before to confront the grand

we're in 100% with that with this side the category the category

became in a place kind of because there's John Jones as a champion

but he's talking to get to mal lute yeah he's he's

poor is a how you see this moment of the division maybe a

kind of a crisis there not there, not there, the top there,

the commier, you're in , and gone, he's, he's, finally steered after the

years, in the expectation, but you're talking about to be able to be able to a little

because it's a bombierer also, the routine is a lot of a lot of the division of the

person, I think, Pasca, like, the names, let's say that we, we admire,

that we, that we're, that we're accompany, years and and all automatically and kind of

or diminuting the rhythm, as you said, we're going to be going, and it's

a lot of a lot of a lot of I said to you say, I think it's normal to get in

this, and so we've seen these guys have a year for years, not,

but I don't see as a ruin, not. I, like, new stars

a renava a category starts to appear with revelations with the proper the Maladio. Maladino?

Maladino is a redentando he's mandating too much the proper Dana White the president

of F.C. I'm all superancos with him and I think I remember that in my time

was more more than this type like with me and I I I can't say that

it's an incentive absurd, you know, you're seeing this form, you're seeing prestige and you're incentivized, and, let's say, like, the people

see, vering that your dedication and that's your results are getting in a form legal. So, there's, with a next moment

of the pesos is being created in this moment too. Some parando and others getting

in ball in the career. You see this moment of the generation of generations, the malladino

getting to pass, you know, but he did in the last week of the last week

against the guy's he did finalize the guy, he's taking a single lute of

he took two people, because he starts of a piece when he's a man is difficult so he's

not going to get a risk that is to take a shock, you're seeing the car, the

growing his he's would be he would be he's a champion of the FC?

Look, I think he has a great potential and I think it's just the initial

he, he is a guy that's, also, one of some of the characteristics

that I had the question of the velocity, he's rapid to

caram. So, this does very well, with the proper of his own, the problem, the question of

the person of the person in the people are in fort, are very good, are verygos, but

lent. So you have to be able to get to some movements

of the the people more more more. But I see a

great potential on it I think there, I think all to get there

we'll be trying there's so that that's so I'm like I'm

like I'm new names start to appear, other moments are being created and the beauty of sport

the beauty of the competition continue continue, continue for more that we

obviously have the names that we know the we're that I'm really

remember how it's the job of John Jones and but but

there moments that it's much of each one, for example, Randy Couture loted up

47 years. Oh, Wanderth, Sylva, has 47 years, he's still out of

him to be boxing. So it's much so, many say, many say, the athlete, the lotator,

no matter to stop but not a question of moment to parar. It's that question

of the perception personal that we have in relation to our performance you go to

to the academy and you train you're you're trying and you're training with training with the guys of

you're you're trying you want to be in our DNA so we're not test us

we test we against against the adversaries durves so

so the way is it is but each one one

is a a man, a guy new even, and if he really pretends to be a little,

I think it's even a little bit more. But he does the way he's the more. The Marietin,

he asked in the interview post-lut by the title of his, he, a man who you

have been a man like you, like you like to try to a poradio like to

get to get to to make to make a barred, you see more a victory

of Maladino you You think he lands as a favorite for the style of the game against you

evas? 100%. I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I like, I'm really, I'm especially from the

question of impor the game of his, the game of his game term, the guy,

part of it does happen to do get a manhando, you know, I think that this is

of a value, so special, it because even when when you You're you're trying,

there's moments of the career or, depending on the moment that you are living, you're going to you're doing

your other your adversaries, you're preparing more, to avoid the points of your other than the lot in-s-s

not about this. The lot in the real of the lot, is you impose the your abilities. What you

do you do, not is not to avoid what the guy, ah, but what I do you, the,

what I do the car does of the better is derubar also I'm even as I'm going to impose the same,

I'm going to not that I'm to make the way, to get to to get the problem, not,

if you can avoid it, in a form that's intelligent, interesting, awesome, you have to impose the

game, you know, this is a thing that seems seems, but at a very simple,

but at times you get a strategy, the, of the, of your attitudes, during the

own the proper the I have this very clear in my career in my life as a loter because

of all I lived in these the last times, there has been more less this this thing

to be this thing thinking about thinking about in strategy in things also

also I have to party to come to happen to and impose a your

force and I see much this in a in a

Maradine, I think, no, Contrude Du I vase, 100% favorite. Marearra. Not the first of the Vazer, it's a duriss. For sure. For sure.

And for you'll follow in Maradine, we'll go ahead and talk with him about the victory of Saturday about the Jaising, Rosed Introup. But first I'd like to thank you, for more than a day. Thank you very much for your time.

And good sox in recovery. And tomorrhirtly that's anxious, yeah, to see be to back, be back to be on, be sure, my mom, my friend. Thank you.

for you and we're going to all right we're going to make a sure you know, no matter in the interview

that's a yeah, after a time for a little bit more a victory, more a victory on the octog

in the five luteau in five losses in five luts in the five lutees and the

major victory of your career, yeah, the lute the first living in the country

rankeed in FEC, how's the first a few days after after of October, I'll never remember more

this triumph. I'm very very happy. I'm very realizing more my own my own that was

to be able to not really to be in trying to be in realizing a non-fc yeah, it's a

dream realised and even more more than another that is doing a event

I don't I never ever I never but I'm like I always I always I always always I'm

and all all the time certain. If it was for the same, it would be going to happen

but it was all the time of God, I'm in the time of certain, I'm really happy. Yeah,

because the Jarre'sin, a guy that bat and he has the style of a show,

that is a soco he could end up any you can you ever would be

going to go and you would you'd do a little more of a job,

that would continue impede a that would you give a soot you'd have to you have to

fight against the adversity? The barge I'm just this, I think of a head

very focused that's a realto really difficult for because of the hype of the

F.C. The guy experienced, the guy who came of various knockouts there,

he's, he, he's with a champion of the F. So,

so a man, very smart very, very, very maduro in the organization. I thought that

this was a lot very difficult. I think I was with my head-havencyon. This was a lot of hard for me. This was a problem of war, but,

but, thanks a God, I could go to my job and get to my job. In which you remember, that finalization would be? When you put it to the ground, and you got that to the ground, and he even,

he evened, but he insisted, he, he, but he said, well, now, now, that's here, but, again,

that he's not out of, that he don't say , I came in that part of the mountado that I said, I'm going to here's a lot of

a minute and a while it's time to try to make a finalization here in the first round. Then it was then I started to

apply socos over the up in the grandepald and when the guy, the guy, he'll be

to be on the blocker, that is he the user, or do you do it, I do you

go back, and we can't get to get to make a matalelelian, and it did all the right. There's

a lot hype, exists until today, in the same because he started, uh, being the same

way, batting many many goals and not being talked. You're in this sequence too, yeah,

like I said, some two golfs, suffered. What is about you about you? What you

when you see a statistic this, a part of a story, like you you, you get a

really, you think, but you can't keep up, but you live with you with you little

more more difficult, even more in the UFC, yeah? I said all this I'm

feel like for the work I've been doing for the team, together with my team, I'm just

that you know, that you know, that's not that's so much to be to be

going to be a head prepared for to all to all I'm a work I'm very

my job that I do you do you know, I'm I'm I'm

doing the so you're doing the team that's we're going to we're going to keep

the a cameyada that that all can't happen to be in the interview with the warlut you said

the name of Tui Vasa yeah it's a name that you had in mind to do that's something that you

thought you did you the moment? How is the conclusion of the question of the next

he's already I was in mind he's a name he's he's a man who is he's the

second he's the second put out of the Rahnke so how I'm

I'm going to at a top 5 I was a I'm a I'm a a particular to

I'm a person a guy extremely pergousous who's who's who's a know what

that's what I'm going to go ahead my mom was Jairz'n so let's go

now, now it's now it's now I know, I know I'm just to everyone

to be so now it's now to get and let see what Jair Zin'I Z'I Z'N't

that you that you and Vasa you offer? What test different you'd be, you'd expect in this other? It's a guy more dense, a guy more,

a guy more a guy more a person that's a person who gets a person to put the weight in the category.

And the guy is perigoso, it was a carcaation there, I took to Jaisen where he doesn't know

the nose but we're prepared for all, we're always we're always we're prepared for all,

you have a idea of how you'd like to do that, you'd want to It was a fog.

I don't know. I'm like, but more of camp, because the lot in Syria, it's been su, yeah, yeah, it's what I was talking, yeah,

everyone who said with me, that I've done, I mean, a little more a more of a month, uh, and I think,

I think any an athlete could do this that I did, the guy who came to do what I did, do this five

things, in sequence, uh, I think the course I feel a little, uh, yeah,

because, it's, it's not not by the lot of it, you, it's, it's,

It's a peop a camp that I'm a keep very strong and the category I look too I'm pretty a lot of I preys much

a train is very dense, the train is very dense, it's a very very strong so the cope I'm feeling

and I pretend to look to there and more in the final of the year

October, November if it's if it's Brazil will be a boa I'm

working in house and I got to me look here in there

in Brazil so I I'm, so, then it's very good to have been friends from

my family for the end of the people of the people of the world is a lot of different, not it's a

not really going to be a lot of a event to be a final, but the expectation of

that roll for the back of this date, in October, November and you think that can

do you know to do you know if you're a interview or would be a fight night but if if it's

if it's put a a centurion but if it was a fight night you'd like to do you like to do the last year? Ah, it would be good

so, it would be a good for the first and get a lot more than the city is better better than he'd take a beer,

he'd take a beer, he'd take a coffee here to Brazil, the beer. And you you'd put the

water in the beer in his yeah, let's go there, let's

have to work to work to put water in the shop of their but

But it's it, you have to train to do it, we can't say that we'll put it to because it depends on the lot of the fight and I'm going to be prepared to do this. With you,

I'm very people who had been in you, I'd have been a good to confront the topes of the category, to confront a Steve and Otis, to affect a Inganu,

to confront a John Jones. I think the, the expectation just will grow after a performance this against Jare-Zio, after continuing

amassando all the world there, you're, you're, that the your level of celebrity, of fanatism of the people,

no, it's all the same to even more in Brazil. Ah, without a sombra of doubt. It's a sombre of doubt. I don't, I'm not prepared to get these,

these guys, still, not. These guys are very, very, much in my front even,

there's a thing that can't be able to happen, and I feel very happy for this car isn't

the public, it's like always said, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, without,

to be in no, no, humility, and per's on the ground and maintain in my head in the same person who I'm in the same

person who's this guy umild, gente boasenero, uh, brinkalalion. Who can be in quite you know,

this person who I'm gonna be a man, depending on the I'm still, no, I'm always with the feet on

the ground, always with the ground, there's always the pen on the ground, and I'm doing doing

doing with my psychologist too, who is a person who really my about my my mind about

my mind for this, that he always always say to me and I

know that you know I'm going to be a same but you have to be always

always be having to be able to people who you're really being that you're people

like this the galas and you have this to show to the Brazil. The Brazil has

many, there are many people that are where you are where you are, that is the

person that you know continue to be the person that you just

just to just to I saw a I saw I'm in a interview with my interview after the

doctor said he said no role a conversation with a little bit he said but he's

talking about to do you know the thing there's a expectation of to visit the car

there oh no yeah yeah in the ministry in the that I

know that I I knew I personally and we get in that bit in that

we we're we're we're we're we're when I was in

the In fact, I did a convict with him in an interviewer, I said, oh, my, my son, I was in your academy. He said, no, the doors are open. And he said with me, so, in the interviewist. And I came to the court, no, I looted. I was in the second of the hotel. I was going to go, even, in the second of the hotel.

Then he came to me. I'm a good. He said, I'm a good. That I continue always, so. And with this gaiton, me. He's, charismatic. And that the doors are open to me, and that's the portals are open to me,

there with this academy of his academy of his that I'm being welcome to be that I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

you know I'm not I'm gonna you're gonna you're gonna be there mannourn't more more

more than more more than the people who you know Rabib or or you go to get

the Kabib and meet with him with it's gonna be gonna be gonna

be be gonna be a little the gulp the group of the people

I do it in there, no, I don't know, I'm in favor. Then, then nobody can't the Jaltev

malady of a medodd. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, after a excellent performance against Anthony

Smith, a performance perhaps atoll more impressionant there, a man that you've

been the man of course, a person more experienced, a performance madura there, and the balance

you do this lot of this battle this this a little against Andrewsmit

and implacar another a victory in sequence in the FCC? Oh,

if it was the man more due to show that I 'm not because he no

me proposone no during the lot and in the third round I saw that

he was more more more less than he was I was finally

I finally I finished if I had some I had to I'm if I

So, I've mosted that my level is very high, that I passed up to the number five. And I know that I can evolve more and more even, that I know that I can't become much better. So, just me showed the my potential, of what I'm able to. I've been a potential very great. So I'm very happy that my performance.

I'm not I'm 100% happy, because I have been certain that I could have finalized him. I was just to try to do a pushadia more that I finalized to him, nocautiae him. But I'm happy because I've seen that my level compared to his was a much more. You know?

Something you surprised in the performance of his? You'd expect that the lute was more difficult? Yeah, I'd expect that was more d'nard more competitive. I was, I was there for five rounds. So, you saw that in the third round, if you put attention to the other, the arms, he was just just jogging on the arms, but no more explosion.

So I think it was for that he didn't have... ...not have been... ...not have to have... ...and have to have to be the last year, because we were to have the last year have been made the five rounds. I think he'd have disarranted there in the F.C. I don't know to fight just three rounds, because I

saw that the third round, he'd just have been lost to five rounds if it were five rounds, so it was five rounds, so I think it was that's what you said, that you said, that you don't terminate with her, what did you? What did you got to that final-zsche, it? To cut off pull the gaitle, and, you're, how

that balance if you do this sense, of, not have to have a lot? In fact, I know, I I could have been have been I was trying but I was

I was trying to was trying to get a man of I was working I was trying to when I was in a centuron, I have to

be test out of to show you to make to get the porrada blockia the so I'm I'm happy to not have

finalized to be too to be able to be able to be able to be able to see how I know how I'm

the main defense in the box no box blocker the the shoot of his the majority of the chuteer I blocky. So,

that he stopped to shoot, he'd have been to be able to him to be able to have done with him. I know that's because I got the

experience of the lot of Dina. 15 minutes of porrada with the guy number five of the rank there is a

experience very good that I don't have this experience in any other other place. So I think that was a moment of having

been done three rounds there, and experimented these three rounds with him, so I'm very happy

because I'm it's not had terminated the Lutz. Maybe the Dana White He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, a good victory,

but he said, let me see anyone, wow, didn't, no, no, didn't, no, impressioned, how, how you, how you, how you,

re-gues, if you saw, no. But, but it's, but you're saying, that you're saying, that you,

got to be able to , because, he had a experience more, but, reconnoisseed that also, too,

had comeed with the , the opinion of the patrown, peza much to you, no, well,

at the He said the moment, the guy found a thing. No, he has certainly, he knows that I could have been able to the fight,

but he didn't know the experience. I think it was that I could have been able too, I think. I was more more than he

was more than what he had more to offer us, you know, but there was to have been to have to have been to have a third

round, but he was, he had a corded there, I think now, I think it's just to get to get to so I'm going to

go to work with the lot, so that the time came So I don't know to finalize him. There even a lance bizarre, uh, the other than you

about him. How was he was the moment of he said about the family and he, I'll make a minute of what he said he

I think he was confused the ball and had a bad he was delir- I think the porrada

he did a delirate, I think. It happened a little after after to invading the house and then

maybe some post-traum post-traumatic in a moment of the that in the the cold of emotion, mixed the things,

and you're the guy who's invading the house of his yeah, I think I did a a problem mental in his mental,

and what the next step to you, you can take a time to get a to get a a little bit of a little bit of after a

after you did in January and what your plan in this sense? With, I'm, but I can't not, no,

it's a time for the body relaxer, A little time I don't want to take a time sufficient just for the company to recuperate and I will

go back 100% training on again, I'm trying maybe to look with the Blackovit there,

if pint down, do a bobeer on the cintone I can't be a rebote if it's a specific of any other

other other other guy to put out I'm in the other other side of now we're we're just

we're here today 20 of May infreent a Michael Johnson on FC to try to spantar

a Uruk yeah, of the walk, and then after time, how is the expectative for this

a lot, a guy really good, a man, a lot of very experienced to put into your

front, and a moment important in your career, no, man. That's,

totally, no, no, no, there, no, I'm, I'm,

I'm going to get a, a lot, a, more more fast to enter to enter

in the rank, no, it's, you can get the guys, the guys

more difficult of the category. And our category, 70-kil is so concordered, there's a lot of people that don't do you know,

for where you see, the beast is soot. So, it's so we get there. A we see many,

many athletes lead with moments of career, in a form different, for the guy gave a

derrota, he's a motiv, he, poor, get put, he gets put, he can

spuntar the phase ruin, others lead them in a way different, without that pressure,

that's the question, how you have you have done with this moment man that for the moment for you,

it was a year, it was a couple of three times, it was a time, after a time,

offastated to return, to get, in busts of the victory to know. Oh,

I think I think I did very very well, like, I'm, I'm trying about some

other other things that I think I was just just making my

jujitsu, my my, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my my, my, my, my to get a lot of

to get to get what the what is, what is the how the way to the

MMI, so, so, it was a lot of many, the most

details that I were putting in the last two two

two, the, that was, I'm I would say, I would be to one to one by one to the other,

but the last two were, some were, like, some, some, I tried,

uh, do some things that I never did, uh, so, I mean, I said,

I put the, two, three, pass to the past, uh, I, I'm capitalized

a, capitalizing a capitalizing so, so, so, this, me motivated

back to try to my wrestling, my jitz, of a form different, my Taita,

a mod, a mod, a, a, a, modality different. So,

this me motivated. My family, me helped so I, I, I, I,

my husband, my, my, my, , my, my,

my, my, my, my, what I do I do I do you do

do, so, so, so, me motivated but not I, I'm

with with with ballads, like, no, me motivated to try to focus on,

in the, in a thing that I want to get to get to, no, if God,

I want, I'm, I'm so pretty, I'm in, six, six, months,

consecutive with a victory, so I'm, I was, there, the, the,

the, the, the, but, unfortunately, what happened what happened, we,

we're, we're, continue, the, , , but a soque more more

more dedicated in a virado to this ranking so I want to get to get in a

manner different so I think this is the hour I'm dealing with this with a

energy I'm I'm I'm really I'm never I never I never

I've with this sorizo in the face always was a thing

but today I'm doing this really very, thanks a God,

and in terms in terms of the victories and I'm in I'm sure for this fight. I'm going to

a guy durissom with a man with a man who's you know, you know, especially is the ideal

because he's a guy who got to try to a porad and is a guy who is a man who

was a kind of some finalized some sometimes. You think the timing ended being

being perfect this casement of shoes for this moment of career also. We're two veterans,

he's a veteran more time than he's a veteran who's a lot more good-ishmus you can't see that he's always

never had difficulty much in the lot of the lot of a lot of putting to be to put up

to be down so I think I think I'm leaving this for some rounds more long

trying trying to put to all these three rounds that I have these 15 minutes

so I will work a lot in this I believe that he's working in the defense in the

part in the end of his in the final I think who can the car of the

gas better will will go to so I think I am in the front of

this I'm too I'm too I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm this casement of the lot the doctor the victory

was exactly using the jujice finalizing Anthony Pat it's so

you see you think you eventually will get he will get it over those three rounds and especially

picking a guy veteran like he might even do a bonus for you know yeah that's really

that I'm that's really this is that I'm not it's so it's so easy but I'm going to try

in time of this as you know my last my last victory with Anthony

Peres I tried I tried the time all the time all of time I can't go

to gore to the finalization. So it's that I have to gore more to gore more to be

to get to get in the not just get to the points and try to look

the finalization is that I want to my friends for my family and it's that I'm

in buska now I want to I want to because I

want this I want more more than this victory is very important

for me especially especially me maintain me maintain a my maintain in a ranking me maintain

in this local where I want to I want to get to get a so this is a

very very motivated for me for sure just to just to ask you about a

guy that you mentioned on he said you you you've

infrented you now he he's he will probably against the Marathev, how you can you

evaluate this this lot, analysis, because it's a confrontation of the chils, for more than the guy is a very complete has a job of the chowels

have the best arms their own arms different, how is you see this duel that is marked for the month

next to be. I'm talking about a like, Charlie de Bronca a man, poor, he never

there, he was there was in a signturon, he conquist he's been a great-eus

but I I hope that he don't leave the Daoos in a way to

a guy very difficult to get a hard, it's a scurragadil too a guy

who has a grapple very affiant and you see the last one the last his last

his last against him Anthony, Ferguson, the the other how is the name the

I forgot the last the last the last it's a one will be a lot

very I think the Charlie has a great chance there's a great chance there, I hope he's got to get to

get the back up, and I'm going to he, he will go to the game

in day, but the Dara Ruhu is a car don't say, I'll say,

I've done two times with a car, not not could not get my

game, that he didn't do, but it's a lot difficult, it's difficult

to say, no, I, for our champion but the Drahus also is a

car d'raud, I don't go, not I'm going to not go to be able to say

but I'm going to go to a good place to yeah he's a long

no, no, he's a little for the I'm I'm for the

two I'm a victory for one to one one one but

I'm like I'm as a our nation, go to our Brazil,

so I'm the best of our champion. It's just a little bit in the more because you know a lot of

octagon, with Dariost, you know, you know, the guy is a duro, not a terefa fast,

the charge has made the power of knockout, but it's a lot of, it's a good,

it's a a, it's a a, a, a local that you can't be able

to one one and the other, the two are the guys, the guys the top, as you're

seeing there. I'm also also the same place in the same pantamatta that they're but, it's difficult

to know what is the side that is who is who can't bring this victory, but I'll just who the

the best, like it's like it's like a competitor. As a competitor, the better leave this

victory. The we're we're doing this week, I'm gladixted to the junior Cigano,

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